WEBVTT - Mark Bares His Heart 0:00:02.040 --> 0:00:04.680 Hey, everyone, welcome back to Betchler Happy Hour. I'm Joe 0:00:04.720 --> 0:00:07.240 and I'm Serena, and we are here with none other 0:00:07.800 --> 0:00:11.399 than Mark Anderson. You're the only one I say I've 0:00:11.440 --> 0:00:13.960 said their last name just because it's just it just 0:00:14.000 --> 0:00:15.720 goes just flowing to Mark Anderson. 0:00:15.960 --> 0:00:16.840 Yeah, it's a good name. 0:00:17.480 --> 0:00:19.240 You know, a lot of celebrities have to change their 0:00:19.320 --> 0:00:22.919 name when they become celebrities because they just need a 0:00:22.960 --> 0:00:23.360 better name. 0:00:23.400 --> 0:00:25.520 You definitely wouldn't. Mark Anderson is a strong one. 0:00:25.560 --> 0:00:30.760 Yeah, that works, Thanks, mom and dad. Right, So what's 0:00:30.800 --> 0:00:31.920 going on, Mark? How are you? 0:00:32.440 --> 0:00:35.520 I'm doing great. Thank you for letting me join in with. 0:00:35.479 --> 0:00:39.320 You, of course, of course. So let's uh, let's kick 0:00:39.360 --> 0:00:43.320 this thing off with your daughter. So your daughter goes 0:00:43.880 --> 0:00:47.959 on the Bachelor. How do you feel about that at 0:00:48.000 --> 0:00:48.360 the time? 0:00:50.880 --> 0:00:53.400 Yeah, well, I mean I hadn't really watched I hadn't 0:00:53.440 --> 0:00:57.800 really watched Bachelor, Bachelorrette the series. I think, you know, 0:00:58.400 --> 0:01:00.600 it'd been on TV and I walked through. I just 0:01:00.600 --> 0:01:04.880 don't really watch a lot of TV. But Kelsey had 0:01:04.880 --> 0:01:09.040 called and said that she applied for a show, and 0:01:09.080 --> 0:01:11.680 it was it was in the summertime, like we were 0:01:11.720 --> 0:01:13.480 going to Hilton Head, for a vacation. He said she 0:01:13.480 --> 0:01:16.160 couldn't go because you know, she had interviews and stuff 0:01:16.160 --> 0:01:20.320 she had to do for that. And uh. And then 0:01:21.280 --> 0:01:23.000 my youngest son, Matthew, and I were down in New 0:01:23.080 --> 0:01:26.679 Orleans and Kelsey said that she got selected and she 0:01:26.800 --> 0:01:29.600 was going to be on the Bachelor, and and we 0:01:29.600 --> 0:01:32.880 were all excited, you know, we kind of had a 0:01:32.880 --> 0:01:37.360 good time, and then you know, we get out, we leave, 0:01:37.520 --> 0:01:39.600 and Matthew and I were driving back home and I'm 0:01:39.600 --> 0:01:42.240 like on the on the phone looking up Bachelor to 0:01:42.280 --> 0:01:44.560 get an idea what she's getting into, you know, and 0:01:44.600 --> 0:01:47.680 you see these little short video snippets of a girl 0:01:47.680 --> 0:01:52.560 in a hallway having this emotional, distressful moment and cry 0:01:52.640 --> 0:01:56.320 and and you know, so my heart sinks, thinking, oh, 0:01:56.360 --> 0:02:01.520 what is she getting into? You know, But it was 0:02:02.400 --> 0:02:03.960 you know, it was great. She got to come home 0:02:04.000 --> 0:02:09.119 right before she left, and we just kind of hung out, 0:02:09.840 --> 0:02:12.520 went to a movie and stuff, and I had to 0:02:12.639 --> 0:02:16.520 had to film some video stuff with her, and but 0:02:16.560 --> 0:02:18.320 it was really neat, you know. And I told her 0:02:20.040 --> 0:02:21.680 how proud of her I was, you know, that she 0:02:21.840 --> 0:02:24.919 was going off to do some some great things, and 0:02:26.000 --> 0:02:28.600 told her how she was much stronger than I. You 0:02:28.639 --> 0:02:31.400 know that that she was going out and you know, 0:02:31.880 --> 0:02:32.639 going to give her. 0:02:32.800 --> 0:02:35.280 Did you give her any advice or. 0:02:35.320 --> 0:02:39.240 Just yeah, yeah, I said, you know, just be yourself. 0:02:39.520 --> 0:02:44.519 You know, let your heart guide you. You know, the 0:02:44.560 --> 0:02:47.640 biggest thing is just be yourself. And if you yourself, 0:02:47.720 --> 0:02:52.080 there's no surprises, there's no you know, everything just works. 0:02:52.320 --> 0:02:54.920 Yeah, that's always the advice I would give anyone to 0:02:55.200 --> 0:02:58.080 that goes on the show. It's just like as simple 0:02:58.120 --> 0:03:00.560 as it sounds, it's like, just be yourself, like and 0:03:00.639 --> 0:03:02.359 that's it. And if it doesn't work, it doesn't work. 0:03:02.400 --> 0:03:04.640 But then you don't have to like look back on 0:03:04.680 --> 0:03:07.840 it and regret anything because you were where you were right. 0:03:09.760 --> 0:03:12.440 So Kelsey makes it the hometowns. Did you have any 0:03:12.480 --> 0:03:16.480 idea what that was? Did she did she prep you 0:03:16.560 --> 0:03:18.680 before she left? Like if I go, if I make 0:03:18.720 --> 0:03:22.480 it pretty far, like you may have to you may 0:03:22.560 --> 0:03:24.680 have to come, you may have to be on TV. No. 0:03:24.760 --> 0:03:27.720 I got I got like a phone call for a producer. 0:03:27.760 --> 0:03:29.960 You know what I'm saying, Hey, you're setting up hometown 0:03:30.040 --> 0:03:35.480 visits and uh and it was you know, at first, 0:03:35.480 --> 0:03:36.960 I get a phone call and they're saying because I 0:03:36.960 --> 0:03:40.560 hadn't heard from Kelsey, you know, and in today's age, 0:03:40.600 --> 0:03:43.600 that's a tough thing. You know, Like she would be 0:03:43.680 --> 0:03:46.360 driving around, she'd be driving around her car or up 0:03:46.440 --> 0:03:48.240 running and she'd call me up and say, hey, I 0:03:48.320 --> 0:03:51.000 just got this weird feeling and you know, yeah. So 0:03:51.080 --> 0:03:56.880 it was always kind of like, I don't know, communication, yeah, yeah, always, 0:03:57.040 --> 0:04:01.600 and it was weird not being able to talk to 0:04:01.640 --> 0:04:03.760 her and not be able to you know, hear from 0:04:03.800 --> 0:04:08.480 her or know where she was at. So it was 0:04:08.680 --> 0:04:11.880 you know, to hear from somebody saying, hey, Kelsey's doing fine. 0:04:12.120 --> 0:04:14.520 So it was nice to hear that she was fine. Yeah. 0:04:14.560 --> 0:04:17.160 So you see her for the first time and with 0:04:17.200 --> 0:04:21.159 how communication for however long it is, and you meet 0:04:21.200 --> 0:04:24.880 the man that she potentially is going to get engaged to. 0:04:26.640 --> 0:04:28.680 Are you okay with it? Are you happy? Like? What 0:04:28.960 --> 0:04:30.520 are you? How are you feeling over it? 0:04:31.600 --> 0:04:34.239 That was you know, I was worried about the hometown 0:04:34.320 --> 0:04:36.839 visit because The Golden Bachelor was airing while she was 0:04:36.880 --> 0:04:41.520 off filming, right, So I was I was kind of 0:04:41.560 --> 0:04:44.960 gauging stuff off The Golden Bachelorette and I'm watching it 0:04:45.000 --> 0:04:48.240 and like I was getting all this, you know, my 0:04:48.360 --> 0:04:55.440 own internal I don't know, corrections to myself. I guess 0:04:55.560 --> 0:04:58.680 like I was getting some inspiration from watching The Golden Bachelorette, 0:04:58.680 --> 0:05:02.160 Like it was it was fantastic to see people in 0:05:02.200 --> 0:05:07.080 my situation out looking for love, you know, And so 0:05:07.680 --> 0:05:10.159 I was watching that, and then we went down for 0:05:10.279 --> 0:05:14.360 Kelsey's hometown and when she walked in, it was just like, oh, finally, 0:05:14.560 --> 0:05:16.080 you know, because it'd been a while I hadn't seen 0:05:16.080 --> 0:05:19.040 her and didn't know what she was up to. Joey 0:05:19.120 --> 0:05:21.400 walked in and it was like a it was like 0:05:21.400 --> 0:05:26.440 a perfect first impression, you know, like you could tell 0:05:26.480 --> 0:05:28.200 the way they walked in. You know, he was just 0:05:28.240 --> 0:05:33.520 graceful with her and you know and patient let her, 0:05:33.800 --> 0:05:36.279 you know, get her hugs in and say hello to 0:05:36.360 --> 0:05:39.760 the family that she hadn't seen for a while, and 0:05:39.800 --> 0:05:43.200 then he just kind of fit right in in conversation 0:05:43.520 --> 0:05:45.600 and it just it was a it was a really 0:05:45.680 --> 0:05:49.440 great it was a really great experience for a first impression, 0:05:49.480 --> 0:05:49.880 Like it. 0:05:49.839 --> 0:05:53.279 Was well, I mean, look it looked like watching it, 0:05:53.600 --> 0:05:57.280 you know, I remember watching him being like, yeah, this works, 0:05:57.440 --> 0:06:01.720 and and and watching that whole season to Serena and 0:06:01.760 --> 0:06:06.240 I mainly me, but it was pretty evident that Joey 0:06:06.279 --> 0:06:11.120 was going to choose Kelsey. Yeah you think, yeah, how 0:06:11.240 --> 0:06:13.960 is it? How is it now? After you know, all 0:06:14.000 --> 0:06:18.000 said and done, they're engaged. Just Joey fitting into the 0:06:18.000 --> 0:06:18.839 family as everything. 0:06:19.720 --> 0:06:22.040 Yeah, you know, this summer, we were out in the 0:06:22.080 --> 0:06:24.360 Hilton Head for a week, you know, and so he's 0:06:24.360 --> 0:06:28.040 meeting my brother and his wife and family and and 0:06:28.080 --> 0:06:30.800 we're just hanging out, going to the beach, playing golf, 0:06:30.960 --> 0:06:34.039 you know, and it was it was fantastic fit right in. 0:06:35.680 --> 0:06:43.040 Going in golf. Who's better, Well, not me because Joey's 0:06:43.080 --> 0:06:47.600 pretty good, right, huh. Joey's a pretty good golfer, right. 0:06:47.680 --> 0:06:51.920 Oh yeah, ye. So it was my brother and Matthew, 0:06:52.240 --> 0:06:56.719 Joey and then my my brother's brother in law Alan. 0:06:59.560 --> 0:07:02.560 It was the was that that went out golfing. So 0:07:02.680 --> 0:07:05.120 it was like Alan and Joey were playing that. My 0:07:05.120 --> 0:07:07.320 brother was kind of the one given Matthew and I 0:07:07.400 --> 0:07:12.200 lessons as we were playing. So we just played eighteen 0:07:12.320 --> 0:07:14.280 and crack and it was it was a lot of fun. 0:07:14.840 --> 0:07:16.920 Nice. 0:07:17.320 --> 0:07:21.520 So so then so the show airs, Hometown airs, and 0:07:21.640 --> 0:07:24.320 now there's going to be this spin off from The 0:07:24.320 --> 0:07:27.720 Golden Bachelor to the Golden Bachelor att and a lot 0:07:27.800 --> 0:07:29.800 of people are throwing your name out there. That was 0:07:29.840 --> 0:07:33.640 like one of the biggest things in Joey's season was 0:07:33.760 --> 0:07:37.240 Kelsey's dad needs to be either the Golden Bachelor or 0:07:37.320 --> 0:07:39.720 on the season of the Golden Bachelor. Att So what 0:07:39.800 --> 0:07:43.360 was it like hearing that and were you Were you 0:07:43.440 --> 0:07:44.880 ready for it? 0:07:45.960 --> 0:07:48.880 Yeah? I wasn't. I don't know how you can be 0:07:48.960 --> 0:07:51.800 ready for that. I mean, it was a it was 0:07:51.840 --> 0:07:55.040 a huge surprise for me. Like I was more worried 0:07:55.720 --> 0:07:59.520 going into that hometown, you know, the filming of that, Like, 0:07:59.560 --> 0:08:03.440 I was worried that, you know, I didn't want to 0:08:03.480 --> 0:08:07.440 be the reason that Joey wouldn't pick Kelsey. You know, 0:08:08.640 --> 0:08:10.920 if Kelsey picks him, Like she stayed there, so it's 0:08:10.960 --> 0:08:12.960 a parent that she liked him, right, she thought there 0:08:13.000 --> 0:08:15.800 was something there. So you know, I'm there to support 0:08:15.880 --> 0:08:19.800 Kelsey one hundred percent, you know, and I didn't want 0:08:19.840 --> 0:08:22.240 to be the reason why he would say no. Like 0:08:23.160 --> 0:08:26.360 so there's a little stress of you know, a little anxiety, 0:08:29.680 --> 0:08:32.240 but it all went great, you know, I mean, it 0:08:32.360 --> 0:08:36.840 went great. So my experience with that and then all 0:08:36.880 --> 0:08:40.200 of a sudden, all this internet starts up and like 0:08:40.280 --> 0:08:42.400 I'm not a big social media person. You know, like 0:08:42.440 --> 0:08:44.960 I had Facebook because my kids had Facebook when they 0:08:45.000 --> 0:08:47.760 were little, and they were playing like farm Ville and stuff, right, 0:08:47.800 --> 0:08:50.760 so I had to like send them animals and cows 0:08:50.800 --> 0:08:53.040 and farm stuff. I don't know, it was it was crazy, 0:08:53.080 --> 0:08:56.000 but we had social media to follow our kids, to keep, 0:08:56.200 --> 0:09:01.480 you know, checking on them what they're doing. And it 0:09:01.520 --> 0:09:03.720 was we were watching the Hometown episode. We were down 0:09:03.760 --> 0:09:07.400 with Kelsey at her place and uh and Kelsey's on 0:09:07.440 --> 0:09:10.320 her phone and as where as it's airing, she's like, 0:09:10.400 --> 0:09:15.520 oh my god, you know, she's like Dad, She's like 0:09:15.559 --> 0:09:19.120 telling me, I don't even know it's you know, it 0:09:19.200 --> 0:09:20.160 was just it was crazy. 0:09:20.200 --> 0:09:25.520 So as a result of Hometown's airing and you're getting 0:09:25.559 --> 0:09:29.000 all this love on social media and Kelsey's you know 0:09:29.480 --> 0:09:33.319 telling you like, hey, like you're you're going viral. Well, 0:09:33.360 --> 0:09:37.920 what what's the craziest story you have for us from there? 0:09:38.920 --> 0:09:41.360 Well, it was, you know, as we're watching it, it 0:09:41.480 --> 0:09:43.920 was Kelsey's like, Dad, there's thirst straps about you. Like 0:09:43.920 --> 0:09:46.040 it was a it was a commercial like right after 0:09:46.559 --> 0:09:49.000 like the first part aired, and she's like, to ad, 0:09:49.040 --> 0:09:52.080 there's thirst straps. I was like oh, and then she's 0:09:52.120 --> 0:09:55.160 like no, really, and so she starts playing it and 0:09:55.240 --> 0:09:57.120 she's like recording it. You know, I was like, oh 0:09:57.120 --> 0:09:59.960 my gosh, like I don't know, it was it was 0:10:00.160 --> 0:10:04.880 really crazy. But like after it aired, we got home, 0:10:05.080 --> 0:10:08.080 like I started getting mail, like letters to my house. 0:10:08.200 --> 0:10:12.400 I got really my phone calls, registered mail that I 0:10:12.400 --> 0:10:14.840 had to go sign for at the post office, Like. 0:10:16.000 --> 0:10:18.080 They said, what were these letters? Where were people writing 0:10:18.120 --> 0:10:18.320 to you? 0:10:19.400 --> 0:10:23.679 H It was a little variety of stuff, you know, 0:10:23.800 --> 0:10:28.440 like like like an introduction, you know, like saying, oh, 0:10:28.559 --> 0:10:31.040 you know I lost my spouse or you know, my 0:10:31.120 --> 0:10:37.800 husband passed away or which, you know. I was getting 0:10:37.800 --> 0:10:41.240 a lot of a lot of stuff on Instagram and 0:10:41.240 --> 0:10:44.400 and like my my stuff was always private, you know, 0:10:44.559 --> 0:10:47.760 like I just never really shared anything. I didn't think 0:10:47.760 --> 0:10:49.959 anybody'd be interested. And like I put something on there 0:10:50.000 --> 0:10:52.840 like once a month if that, you know, yeah, cook 0:10:52.840 --> 0:10:54.480 a brisket and take a picture of it, you know, 0:10:54.679 --> 0:10:59.720 like share it with the kids. So it really but 0:10:59.760 --> 0:11:01.520 then of a sudden, I'm getting all these messages right 0:11:01.559 --> 0:11:03.960 and there was it was it was just I mean 0:11:04.000 --> 0:11:07.400 it was supportive, you know, like a lot of people 0:11:07.440 --> 0:11:10.280 were bringing up about you know, being on the Golden Bachelor, 0:11:10.440 --> 0:11:13.960 and yeah, and then they announced the Golden Bachelorette, you know, 0:11:14.040 --> 0:11:20.480 and so it was really, you know, it was neat, 0:11:20.800 --> 0:11:22.320 like I mean, it was just a lot of attention 0:11:22.440 --> 0:11:25.240 that I just like, I personally am not used to that, 0:11:25.360 --> 0:11:29.880 Like I don't like, I don't thrive on that like it. 0:11:30.559 --> 0:11:32.480 I don't know, I guess it's kind of shocking. 0:11:32.960 --> 0:11:35.920 It is. It's overwhelming. It's shocking. I'm not a you know, 0:11:35.960 --> 0:11:40.920 I'm not an about me kind of person. So it 0:11:41.040 --> 0:11:42.439 was very overwhelming, you. 0:11:42.400 --> 0:11:44.480 Know, like didn't make you nervous at all that people 0:11:44.520 --> 0:11:47.920 had your home address, like strangers had your home address. 0:11:48.240 --> 0:11:50.880 Yeah, a little bit, but the Internet, like everything is there, 0:11:51.160 --> 0:11:54.240 Like yeah, I mean I got was a there was 0:11:54.520 --> 0:11:56.480 a real estate I said, wow, I'm kind of surprised 0:11:56.480 --> 0:11:58.040 you found my address, and she goes, oh, I'm in 0:11:58.080 --> 0:12:00.320 real estate. You know. She was like, honey, I'm in 0:12:00.360 --> 0:12:03.000 real estate. I have more information on you than. 0:12:04.400 --> 0:12:05.240 Oh my god. 0:12:05.920 --> 0:12:08.080 I mean it's true. I mean honestly, like that's why 0:12:08.400 --> 0:12:10.600 all like people are always like worried about like their 0:12:10.600 --> 0:12:13.520 information being stolen, but like it's all out there. 0:12:13.720 --> 0:12:16.720 Yeah, yeah, you know, like having to shred all your mail, 0:12:16.840 --> 0:12:19.760 nobody wastes her time with that anymore. You know, it's 0:12:19.800 --> 0:12:21.120 too easy to get it on the internet. 0:12:21.160 --> 0:12:23.280 Yeah, if somebody really wants to hack you, they'll they'll 0:12:23.280 --> 0:12:27.960 figure it out. 0:12:30.840 --> 0:12:36.839 So hometowns ends You're viral on the internet. Kelsey's doing great. 0:12:36.960 --> 0:12:40.400 You're doing great. Lots of love in the Anderson household. 0:12:41.080 --> 0:12:44.360 They get engaged. We see that you go out for 0:12:44.440 --> 0:12:47.240 the live finale of Joey's season the after the Final 0:12:47.320 --> 0:12:51.040 Rows special. What was that experience like being there in 0:12:51.120 --> 0:12:56.000 the audience with a live audience, everyone knows who you are. 0:12:56.559 --> 0:12:57.800 What was the response like. 0:12:57.800 --> 0:13:01.319 And there's also and there's also Golden Bachelor women there. 0:13:01.480 --> 0:13:04.960 Oh yeah, some of some of the Golden Bachelor women 0:13:04.960 --> 0:13:06.760 are there as well, which I'm sure you got to 0:13:06.800 --> 0:13:07.480 meet them. 0:13:07.679 --> 0:13:11.319 Yeah, yeah, it was Uh so we were sitting, we 0:13:11.320 --> 0:13:13.960 weren't out in the audience for the majority of the 0:13:14.160 --> 0:13:16.640 of the episode, and then right before the rose ceremony, 0:13:16.720 --> 0:13:18.920 we got to walk out, and as we walked out, 0:13:19.160 --> 0:13:23.800 there's just like clapping and cheering, and I start looking 0:13:23.840 --> 0:13:27.160 around like like, who's you know? Who just got here? 0:13:27.360 --> 0:13:33.920 And uh, it was you? Yeah, And so we go in, 0:13:34.040 --> 0:13:35.920 we sit down. You know, my other kids are there 0:13:35.920 --> 0:13:39.800 with me and and and so we all get our 0:13:39.800 --> 0:13:43.160 seats and uh, and we sit down and you can, 0:13:43.280 --> 0:13:45.120 you know, I'm looking around and I can see back 0:13:45.160 --> 0:13:48.440 over this way is a group of the women from 0:13:48.520 --> 0:13:53.920 Golden Bachelor. Of course, Joey's family was like right across 0:13:53.960 --> 0:13:57.040 the little aisle from us, and uh, and then we 0:13:57.080 --> 0:13:59.439 got to watch the proposal, which was like that's the 0:13:59.480 --> 0:14:03.280 first week saw yeah, which was really nice. Yeah, it was. 0:14:03.440 --> 0:14:09.880 It was great, you know, and to see that, you know, 0:14:09.920 --> 0:14:11.800 as a parent, like I didn't. I didn't watch my 0:14:11.960 --> 0:14:15.480 kids on a date, not like you know, not on 0:14:15.520 --> 0:14:21.120 a TV episode for sure, right, But and I was 0:14:21.440 --> 0:14:23.280 I wasn't sure if it was something I wanted to 0:14:23.280 --> 0:14:26.120 watch because I've never seen my other kids go on dates. 0:14:26.160 --> 0:14:29.360 I didn't, you know, I don't. I mean, I'm worried 0:14:29.360 --> 0:14:31.280 about them, right, I stay up, I do you know, 0:14:31.320 --> 0:14:32.200 I check on them. 0:14:32.360 --> 0:14:34.880 But yeah, but the idea of watching it just doesn't 0:14:34.880 --> 0:14:35.640 even seem real. 0:14:35.720 --> 0:14:38.080 It's like, right, like, yeah, you would never get that 0:14:38.160 --> 0:14:41.160 kind of access to your children's dating life. 0:14:41.360 --> 0:14:46.480 Yeah, like at all, Like who wants really, you know, 0:14:47.560 --> 0:14:49.720 but truly, who wants that? You know? Like they don't 0:14:49.720 --> 0:14:50.640 want to see mine. 0:14:52.200 --> 0:14:55.800 Well, you guys. 0:14:57.040 --> 0:15:00.440 Yeah, and but it was it was it was such 0:15:00.440 --> 0:15:06.040 a fantastic thing, you know, to watch that blossom and 0:15:06.040 --> 0:15:09.080 it just reinforced that that feeling that I got when 0:15:09.120 --> 0:15:13.000 we're at Hometown's, you know when it started airing, to 0:15:13.080 --> 0:15:20.520 see that progression of a relationship, you know, and it 0:15:19.800 --> 0:15:22.240 was it was just it was very reassuring, It was 0:15:22.400 --> 0:15:24.200 very it was just it was great. 0:15:24.480 --> 0:15:28.480 You seem to have a very positive perception of the 0:15:28.600 --> 0:15:31.840 journey and Kelsey's experience, which totally makes sense because she's 0:15:31.880 --> 0:15:35.040 happily engaged to Joey, who's wonderful. Did you have any 0:15:35.120 --> 0:15:37.560 hesitations though for her going on the show or when 0:15:37.680 --> 0:15:38.760 she came off engaged? 0:15:38.880 --> 0:15:41.360 Was there any parental nerves there? 0:15:42.320 --> 0:15:46.160 Yeah, I mean there is. I mean, you know, it's 0:15:46.200 --> 0:15:49.560 a one it's a TV show, right, it's a reality show. 0:15:50.040 --> 0:15:54.320 It you hope that the connections that are made are strong, 0:15:57.120 --> 0:15:59.720 but it's a it's like a bubble, you know, and 0:15:59.800 --> 0:16:03.920 what real life starts starts happening once reality really hits 0:16:03.960 --> 0:16:07.400 that reality show. It sometimes it doesn't work, you know, 0:16:07.440 --> 0:16:13.240 there's too many stressors or outside influences. You know. Luckily 0:16:13.240 --> 0:16:18.800 for them, they started that couple counseling immediately and it 0:16:18.920 --> 0:16:22.480 helped him tremendously. The communication piece was great. You know 0:16:22.600 --> 0:16:29.200 that Joey's a fantastic speaker, like he he's a wonderful communicator, right, 0:16:29.240 --> 0:16:33.680 he listens and he speaks, you know, and and pays 0:16:33.680 --> 0:16:39.440 attention like. So like the match of them, I think 0:16:39.520 --> 0:16:43.720 is is is just right. Like and had Kelsey not 0:16:43.800 --> 0:16:49.440 gone on the show, she would have never met Joey. Yeah, 0:16:49.520 --> 0:16:52.120 you know, it's just the odds of odds of those 0:16:52.320 --> 0:16:55.720 of those two meeting in any other situation that it 0:16:55.720 --> 0:17:01.520 wouldn't have happened. So, you know, having talked with Kelsey 0:17:01.560 --> 0:17:03.560 and Joey a little bit about that, you know, like 0:17:04.280 --> 0:17:07.000 that was an opportunity. You know, they took that opportunity 0:17:07.080 --> 0:17:10.480 and it and for them it was you know, it 0:17:10.560 --> 0:17:13.120 was right, it was it was they got that magic right. 0:17:13.320 --> 0:17:19.600 So and that's some you know, that's it's uh enlightening 0:17:20.720 --> 0:17:23.359 thinking about it. I mean, all the stuff on the 0:17:23.359 --> 0:17:26.480 internet was saying, you know, a mark for Golden Bachelor 0:17:26.560 --> 0:17:29.760 and all this, and and I was under you know, 0:17:29.880 --> 0:17:31.840 I thought I'm not old enough. They were all like 0:17:32.440 --> 0:17:36.359 sick up, you know, and here. 0:17:36.280 --> 0:17:37.760 I was going to ask, have you have you have 0:17:37.880 --> 0:17:41.360 you thought about yourself as golden? What does that mean? 0:17:41.920 --> 0:17:42.160 Yeah? 0:17:42.280 --> 0:17:43.800 What does golden even mean? 0:17:44.520 --> 0:17:47.080 I don't know. I mean, yeah, I guess it's like 0:17:47.119 --> 0:17:52.040 an older time like gold it is it if you 0:17:52.080 --> 0:17:54.280 can sign it for a arp at fifty five? Is 0:17:54.280 --> 0:17:54.960 it fifty five? 0:17:55.000 --> 0:17:55.320 And up? 0:17:55.359 --> 0:17:58.680 I don't like, you know, like. 0:18:00.840 --> 0:18:03.800 I mean, it's more of a season of life, is 0:18:04.280 --> 0:18:05.640 like a specific age. 0:18:05.840 --> 0:18:10.119 Okay, So so moving then towards your journey. So you know, 0:18:10.400 --> 0:18:13.840 all this goes down and people like Mark for the 0:18:13.880 --> 0:18:17.080 Golden Bachelor and then Joan becomes the Golden Bachelor. Att 0:18:18.240 --> 0:18:20.880 how sure were you that you were ready to go 0:18:21.680 --> 0:18:22.520 on her season? 0:18:26.320 --> 0:18:27.600 I don't know if I was. I don't know if 0:18:27.600 --> 0:18:33.240 I was sure, like right away, I mean it was exciting, 0:18:33.640 --> 0:18:35.719 you know, and the thought of it was great, like 0:18:35.880 --> 0:18:38.720 I had to go, Like I had the hardest conversation 0:18:38.800 --> 0:18:45.359 with my children before I even said yes, uh, And 0:18:45.400 --> 0:18:47.040 that was to ask them if it was okay for 0:18:47.119 --> 0:18:53.800 me to date because I'd never done that, right, like yeah, 0:18:54.160 --> 0:18:56.239 and you know, and and to ask them if it's 0:18:56.280 --> 0:18:58.119 okay for me to date? And then the second follow 0:18:58.200 --> 0:18:59.959 up question was is it okay for me to date 0:19:00.080 --> 0:19:00.960 on TV? You know. 0:19:01.480 --> 0:19:04.639 Yeah, that's that's a big second classig one. 0:19:04.960 --> 0:19:09.560 Yeah, but you know it was had any one of 0:19:09.600 --> 0:19:12.720 them said no, like I'm not ready for that, I 0:19:12.760 --> 0:19:17.520 wouldn't have Yeah, but it was like the hardest thing 0:19:17.560 --> 0:19:20.440 for me to do was was to ask my children 0:19:20.480 --> 0:19:23.520 that permission, and you know, not to say that I 0:19:23.520 --> 0:19:27.040 don't talk to them or I don't you know, encourage 0:19:27.080 --> 0:19:28.720 them to tell me what they think, or. 0:19:30.320 --> 0:19:33.399 But for me to say, you know, I'm looking for 0:19:33.440 --> 0:19:38.800 someone beside your mother, right, and you know, just to 0:19:38.840 --> 0:19:41.360 reinforce with them that I can't replace her. I will 0:19:41.400 --> 0:19:44.240 never replace her. She will never be replaced as their mother. 0:19:47.160 --> 0:19:50.399 But I had, you know, over the course of six years, 0:19:50.440 --> 0:19:54.560 thought well, what have I have? I kept them from 0:19:54.680 --> 0:19:59.040 having that someone that they can relate to, someone that 0:19:59.080 --> 0:20:04.240 they can talk to to confide in, you know, because 0:20:04.280 --> 0:20:06.840 I hope that they would feel comfortable enough to talk 0:20:06.880 --> 0:20:09.280 with me about anything. And I think for the most part, 0:20:09.280 --> 0:20:13.800 they do. But there are things that a mother would 0:20:13.840 --> 0:20:17.879 talk to a child about just because it's the mother. 0:20:18.119 --> 0:20:20.560 I mean, like it's a it's a different thought process, right, 0:20:20.680 --> 0:20:27.320 Like brains are wired different between men and women, and 0:20:27.400 --> 0:20:32.200 you know that that mother figure is I think is needed. 0:20:32.440 --> 0:20:35.520 So you know, I thought maybe I was preventing them 0:20:35.520 --> 0:20:39.560 from having that outlet, right, that that source of communication 0:20:39.840 --> 0:20:42.000 and confidence, you know. 0:20:42.760 --> 0:20:45.680 And what was their response when you asked them for 0:20:45.720 --> 0:20:46.400 that permission? 0:20:47.160 --> 0:20:49.760 Oh, they're all yes, absolutely, go you know, like. 0:20:50.640 --> 0:20:53.960 Yeah, very supportive, very very supportive. 0:20:53.520 --> 0:20:55.800 And you know, but it was like I asked my kids, 0:20:55.840 --> 0:20:58.320 and then I called my mom, I called my brother, 0:21:01.320 --> 0:21:03.639 I called my sister in law, my mother in law, 0:21:05.520 --> 0:21:08.000 and my brother in law you know, and asked them, 0:21:08.160 --> 0:21:11.320 you know, said hey, look is what I'm thinking about doing. 0:21:11.359 --> 0:21:14.800 What do you think you know, because you know, it 0:21:14.840 --> 0:21:19.520 was something that they had to know, you know, for 0:21:19.680 --> 0:21:22.080 my in laws to have encouraged me to date just 0:21:22.119 --> 0:21:29.200 seemed you know, and that was early on, Like you know, 0:21:29.640 --> 0:21:32.600 my sister in law she's like she's like a sister, 0:21:32.760 --> 0:21:36.280 you know, like she's she's great, but she always she 0:21:36.280 --> 0:21:37.920 always had marketing to get up. And he just wanted 0:21:37.960 --> 0:21:40.200 you to to date. She wanted you to meet someone, 0:21:40.240 --> 0:21:42.000 She wanted you to take care of somebody. She wanted 0:21:42.040 --> 0:21:45.879 you to enjoy life, you know. So so to have 0:21:46.040 --> 0:21:50.000 somebody pushing me like that, I mean, it was it's 0:21:50.040 --> 0:21:50.920 just great support. 0:21:51.800 --> 0:21:54.919 So then yeah. After hearing all their their love and 0:21:54.920 --> 0:21:57.639 support and their acceptance of the whole idea of you 0:21:57.800 --> 0:22:01.760 going on, were you yourself hm ready? After that? 0:22:05.880 --> 0:22:07.600 I mean, you know, I learned a lot watching the 0:22:07.680 --> 0:22:14.800 Golden Bachelor, so and that was really kind of like 0:22:16.920 --> 0:22:21.159 I had hard time. I had a hard time with 0:22:21.160 --> 0:22:27.719 with being okay with dating because I was, you know, 0:22:27.760 --> 0:22:30.600 my Denise was in my heart, you know, she filled 0:22:30.600 --> 0:22:34.240 it completely, and how do I make room for someone new? 0:22:35.720 --> 0:22:38.320 So the enlightening part of the Golden Bachelor was to hear, 0:22:39.400 --> 0:22:42.200 you know, the people on this show talk about how 0:22:42.720 --> 0:22:45.639 you know, it is okay to love someone, it is 0:22:45.680 --> 0:22:49.040 okay to move on and have someone else in your life, 0:22:49.680 --> 0:22:52.680 you know, to enrich your own life with someone else. 0:22:54.880 --> 0:22:55.639 It's empowering. 0:22:55.680 --> 0:23:02.480