1 00:00:02,960 --> 00:00:06,400 Speaker 1: It is a football Friday, first one of the season. Yeah, 2 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:09,200 Speaker 1: I'm County training camp as part of the season. Welcome 3 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:12,399 Speaker 1: Bird Gang. On today's show, paulk Alvic joins me. The 4 00:00:12,440 --> 00:00:15,319 Speaker 1: Cardinals practice again in front of fans and a good 5 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:18,400 Speaker 1: turnout at State Farm Stadium. I saw, though a much 6 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:22,680 Speaker 1: slower tempo than the day before. Post practice. Budda Baker's folk, 7 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:25,959 Speaker 1: we'll get into everything he had to say. It's Cardinals 8 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:30,640 Speaker 1: Cover two, episode six fifty five and it starts now. 9 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:34,400 Speaker 2: Welcome to Cardinals Cover two. 10 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:36,559 Speaker 3: Buda Baker, What Heart? 11 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:39,000 Speaker 1: What rent? This guy's unbelievable. 12 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:43,400 Speaker 2: Cardinals Cover two is presented by Hyundai, proud partner of 13 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:49,280 Speaker 2: the Arizona Cardinals, and by Arizona Cardinals Podcasts. Visit Azycardinals 14 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 2: dot com Slash podcasts. 15 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 3: He's in a ten half of five. He's it again, 16 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:55,600 Speaker 3: So more Harry Magic. 17 00:00:55,800 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 2: Whoa, here's Craig Grioloud. 18 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:05,120 Speaker 1: Going to need you to bring the energy, Paul, Because, 19 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 1: as our good friend and former colleague Detour Dan like 20 00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 1: to say on KTAR on Fridays as he oversaw the 21 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 1: valley traffic, Friday Light is how I would describe Friday's 22 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:23,120 Speaker 1: second open practice of training camp day three officially, but 23 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:27,600 Speaker 1: the tempo certainly not as high, the intensity is certainly 24 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:31,040 Speaker 1: not as ratcheted up as it was on Thursday. 25 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:33,440 Speaker 3: It's amazing how the players are used to it now. 26 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 3: They call it a low day in a high day. 27 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:38,680 Speaker 3: So all right, it was one of the and you 28 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 3: knew it because Cole McCoy would go through the motions, 29 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:45,200 Speaker 3: he would actually release the football, so all right, he 30 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 3: was on a pitch count. And look, so much of 31 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 3: this is necessary these days. In some cases, some coaches 32 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 3: are actually running practices every other day during training camp. 33 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:00,120 Speaker 3: Now you can't afford to do that as a new 34 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 3: staff with a new scheme on both sides of the ball. 35 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 3: So at least, okay, at least you can assess if 36 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 3: guys are in the right place in the right scheme. 37 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:11,080 Speaker 3: I mean, I could overhear coaches talking about, yes, that 38 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 3: was the right check based on what the offense did. 39 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:20,160 Speaker 3: Jonathan Gannon was still very much in quality control mode. 40 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:22,680 Speaker 3: He would run from twenty yards behind the offense all 41 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:24,320 Speaker 3: the way to the middle of the defense to work 42 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 3: with some of the defensive backs, for example, his specialty. 43 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 3: So all right, but you know what, it's all tracking 44 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:33,680 Speaker 3: towards the Back Together Saturday, where I think we will. 45 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 3: They won't be in pats, but you're gonna see enough 46 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 3: to know, all right, who's competing, who's winning a job, 47 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 3: who is actually making a positive impression on the coaches. 48 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 3: And just because it was a low day quote unquote, 49 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 3: doesn't mean the coaches aren't going back and looking too 50 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:50,040 Speaker 3: the film, because they look at everything. 51 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 1: Glad you brought up Saturday Cardinals training Camp powered by 52 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:57,520 Speaker 1: Cocks this weekend across the league Back Together weekend and 53 00:02:57,600 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 1: for the Cardinals one fifteen to two forty five fans 54 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:05,120 Speaker 1: coming out to State Farm Stadium again, Good Aisycardinals dot com. 55 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 1: Parking is free. Admission is free, but you do need 56 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 1: a digital ticket. But you will hear fans. You will 57 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 1: hear from GM MONTI Austin Ford. You will hear from 58 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:18,840 Speaker 1: head coach Jonathan Gannon. Cardinals alumni will be recognized. Heck, 59 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 1: maybe even our colleague Ron woof Lee will get a 60 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 1: tip of the cap to the fans here kids, interactive Zone, 61 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:27,520 Speaker 1: selfie station, team shop will be open. That is all 62 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:31,960 Speaker 1: happening on Saturday, July twenty ninth, Back Together Weekend. We 63 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:34,239 Speaker 1: know about the red and white practice. That's a week 64 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 1: from Saturday. But this is something now the NFL has done, 65 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 1: I think for a couple of years now, but basically 66 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:44,840 Speaker 1: the entire league on display, NFL Network, ESPN, and then 67 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 1: of course in front of the fans at State Farm Stadium. 68 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 3: Now when you say one to fifteen, is that the 69 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 3: high temperature on Saturday? Oh no, that's the start time 70 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 3: one fifteen pm. 71 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 1: Okay, I guess I do have to clarify we do 72 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 1: live in Arizona. 73 00:03:56,120 --> 00:03:57,760 Speaker 3: No, But you know what, that's another reason to come 74 00:03:57,800 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 3: out out, Just come in, enjoy the climate control in 75 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 3: the ac of State Farm Stadium. And as for Wolf, 76 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 3: you know what his job needs to be every single 77 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 3: back together Saturday. Just crank up the big red siren. 78 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 3: That's what Wolf needs to do. Get all two hundred 79 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 3: pounds into that big red siren and get yourself a workout. 80 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:17,719 Speaker 1: Now, for those that do come on Saturday, and for 81 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:20,039 Speaker 1: those that were in attendance on Friday, Paul, did you 82 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:24,479 Speaker 1: happen to notice anything different outside of the perhaps maybe 83 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 1: lack of speed on the field. Anything look different, look 84 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 1: a little bit cleaner, crisper, brighter with the. 85 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 3: Kids football field, Call a fit check is that what 86 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 3: you're talking about? The new practice jerseys they did indeed 87 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 3: look clean, did they not? And I tell you you 88 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:46,560 Speaker 3: couldn't help but notice guys out there, and it's a 89 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:49,360 Speaker 3: harbinger of things to come with the new game uniforms. 90 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:53,600 Speaker 3: So yes, that was interesting. What's just as interesting, And 91 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 3: it was fun to watch Dave Pash play by play 92 00:04:57,440 --> 00:05:01,840 Speaker 3: guy extraordinary top five in his p profession, and you know, 93 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:03,960 Speaker 3: on the globe and even Dave was looking at the 94 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 3: old handheld paper roster and he's like, wow, okay, there 95 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:11,240 Speaker 3: are a lot of numbers to learn, a lot of 96 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 3: new names on this roster. So when you come on out, 97 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:18,599 Speaker 3: you know, look at the uniforms and then realize how 98 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:23,600 Speaker 3: many different players are wearing those uniforms. It has been 99 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 3: quite a change in the off season. And I tried 100 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:30,360 Speaker 3: to ask Zac Pascal about how wide open the competitions 101 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 3: are across this roster. Of course he deflected and demurred. 102 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:36,240 Speaker 3: He didn't really answer the question. But I know about you, Craig, 103 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 3: there are a lot of training camps you've gone into 104 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 3: you and you're like, you know what, maybe fifty through 105 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:43,559 Speaker 3: fifty three are open on this roster. That's not the case. 106 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 3: Every single day, guys are battling, and there are certain 107 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:52,039 Speaker 3: position groups where I think it is definitely possible and 108 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 3: feasible and doable to go from an unknown to a 109 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:56,800 Speaker 3: roster spot by the time we get to the end 110 00:05:56,839 --> 00:05:57,680 Speaker 3: of the of August. 111 00:05:57,839 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 1: If it's not a starting position up for grabs, it's 112 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:03,159 Speaker 1: the backup to that position that is up for grabs, 113 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:06,479 Speaker 1: and sometimes it's coach beak. But Jennathan Gannon earlier asked 114 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:09,200 Speaker 1: about the number two quarterback, is there a competition? Is 115 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:12,000 Speaker 1: there a battle behind Kyler Murray? His response quote, I 116 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:15,919 Speaker 1: think all spots are open for grabs right now. Now again, 117 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 1: a lot of that is coach peak. But to your point, Paul, 118 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:22,360 Speaker 1: every single position group, if it's not a starter, then 119 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:24,920 Speaker 1: your backup, because you are going to need backups. Dare 120 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:28,560 Speaker 1: I say a third string player in order to compete 121 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:32,359 Speaker 1: this season across the board? I don't know very many 122 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:36,279 Speaker 1: players that are secure in their spot on the roster, 123 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 1: like a Kyler Murray that can just I wouldn't say 124 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:41,919 Speaker 1: go through the motions because no player does that, but 125 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:45,800 Speaker 1: just feel comfortable when those final cuts are made that 126 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:48,480 Speaker 1: oh yeah, I'm gonna be here. I don't know how 127 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:50,920 Speaker 1: many people can actually believe that in honesty. 128 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:53,680 Speaker 3: I mean, look at the cornerback room, it's Marco Wilson, 129 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:58,240 Speaker 3: and we've seen three different guys run first team so far. 130 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:01,559 Speaker 3: I mean, it could be a Christian Matthew, the seventh 131 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:04,160 Speaker 3: rounder from last year. It could be Antonio Hamilton who 132 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:07,080 Speaker 3: earned a starting gig the end of last training camp 133 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 3: before the accident cooking accident where he had the burns 134 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:13,200 Speaker 3: on his feed and then he missed the next month plus. 135 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 3: It could be a Key Trell Clark, sixth round rookie 136 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 3: out of Louisville. He's had his reps with the first team. 137 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:22,080 Speaker 3: Who knows what the status at Garrett Williams is going 138 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 3: to be eventually their third round corner out of Syracuse. 139 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:28,880 Speaker 3: Look at the defensive line, we think, we think maybe 140 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 3: it might be a combination or a shar Lawrence Lucky Foto, 141 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:35,640 Speaker 3: the twenty twenty fourth round draft picks of Jonathan Ledbetter 142 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:38,880 Speaker 3: who really flashed at times last year. Maybe an LJ. 143 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 3: Collie or a former first rounder from Seattle, a Carlos 144 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 3: Watkins who was a proven commodity in Dallas. But that 145 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:49,240 Speaker 3: was a loaded d line room and so he comes 146 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 3: to the Cardinals. But that's what we think, that's what 147 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 3: we've seen over the last few years. Guess what is 148 00:07:54,640 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 3: an entirely new coaching staff, brand new front office. What 149 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:01,840 Speaker 3: do they think? We don't know. And so every one 150 00:08:01,840 --> 00:08:03,880 Speaker 3: of these guys is very well served to make sure 151 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:05,640 Speaker 3: they don't have a bad day. How many times has 152 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:08,200 Speaker 3: Drew stand said that don't have a bad day do 153 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:11,680 Speaker 3: over the course of camp. You can't afford it unless 154 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:14,200 Speaker 3: you're an all pro like a Buddha Baker, Kyler Murray, etc. 155 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 1: Want to get into what Buddha Baker had to say 156 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 1: on Friday post practice, but I'm glad you brought up 157 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 1: the secondary and specifically cornerback because for those that might 158 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:26,240 Speaker 1: have missed it, go back into the archives Asycardinals dot 159 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 1: com or again, just subscribe to Arizona Cardinals podcast because 160 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 1: this week on the Big Red Rage, you had the 161 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 1: chance to sit down and talk with Key Trell Clark 162 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:39,160 Speaker 1: and I thought it was a fantastic interview. Sounds like 163 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 1: a kid who's got his head on his shoulders screwed 164 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:46,320 Speaker 1: on tight and all about the ball and what we've 165 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 1: seen so far through three days two days of open practice. 166 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 1: He did have an interception on Friday. Again, they were 167 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:55,160 Speaker 1: going half speed, maybe quarter speed, but he is someone 168 00:08:55,400 --> 00:08:57,440 Speaker 1: right out of the gate, and a surprise brought it 169 00:08:57,520 --> 00:09:00,520 Speaker 1: up on Thursday Show with Danny Surrek. I did not 170 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:05,680 Speaker 1: expect to see number thirteen running first team opposite Marco 171 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 1: Wilson in the cornerback position here in training camp this early. 172 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:14,240 Speaker 3: It truly is land of opportunity if you're a young player, 173 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:17,280 Speaker 3: if you're an unproven player, if you're looking to get 174 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:20,800 Speaker 3: some traction in the NFL. I tell you whether you're 175 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:23,559 Speaker 3: talking to Key Troll Clark, or you're talking to Michael Wilson, 176 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:26,680 Speaker 3: the third round rookie out of Stanford. Just the maturity, 177 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:29,920 Speaker 3: the intellect at such a young age, Craig, We've been 178 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:32,400 Speaker 3: doing this long enough. We've interviewed enough rookies over the years. 179 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:36,240 Speaker 3: You can tell right away who's already a professional and 180 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:39,000 Speaker 3: who needs to learn that this is what they do 181 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:42,600 Speaker 3: for a living. These guys are already there, they have 182 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 3: already realized, Okay, I need to treat this with all seriousness. 183 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:50,199 Speaker 3: So when you hear Michael Wilson tall us in the 184 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 3: Big Red Rage last month that his battles with Key 185 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:55,440 Speaker 3: Troll Clark in the offseason, we're on a daily basis, 186 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 3: and he came to learn that Key Troll Clark is 187 00:09:57,160 --> 00:10:01,360 Speaker 3: actually keeping notes in all the Cardinals receivers on other teams. 188 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:05,120 Speaker 3: So and then there's just a passion just what these guys. 189 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:10,080 Speaker 3: I'll give you an example. Someone tell me that in 190 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:12,559 Speaker 3: the off season there was a handful of guys who 191 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:16,600 Speaker 3: were there every single day of the off season. Kyler 192 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:19,320 Speaker 3: Murray was one of them. You know who else was there? 193 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 3: Owen Papo Okay, another fifth round rookie linebacker out of Auburn. 194 00:10:25,679 --> 00:10:28,560 Speaker 3: So there's an old saying in those war rooms, if 195 00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 3: you're on Day three of the draft, take the freak 196 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:33,760 Speaker 3: who loves ball. That would be an Owen Papo, guy 197 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:36,000 Speaker 3: who has all those measurables and all the athleticism and 198 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:38,679 Speaker 3: just has an incredible passion for the game. And so 199 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:41,760 Speaker 3: we'll see, we'll see how all this plays out. But 200 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 3: there's no doubt a number of these rookies Q Trot Clark, 201 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:48,360 Speaker 3: Michael Wilson and Papo on special teams. So far, I've 202 00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 3: talked to enough veterans where these guys are caught their 203 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:54,680 Speaker 3: eye players no players, and already they're like in okay, okay, 204 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:58,120 Speaker 3: this front office early returns on what you're seeing here. 205 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:00,960 Speaker 1: This rookie class could be product. Well, you bring up 206 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:05,120 Speaker 1: Papo literally the freak. His Twitter handle is at the 207 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:07,600 Speaker 1: Freak Great, let's not forget about that and what he 208 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:10,440 Speaker 1: did at the combine and again on Bruce Feldman's twenty 209 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:14,280 Speaker 1: twenty two Freaks list, he benches four hundred and thirty 210 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:19,120 Speaker 1: five pounds. That's quite a lot. And look and he's 211 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:22,800 Speaker 1: a four to four guy and inside linebacker next to 212 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:25,840 Speaker 1: Kaysier Wide. If it's going to be Josh Woods or 213 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:28,720 Speaker 1: Chris Barnes, you're gonna need someone to be able to 214 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:32,360 Speaker 1: move that fast and react to what the offense is doing. 215 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 1: Because again the unknown on the defensive line, that first 216 00:11:35,920 --> 00:11:39,600 Speaker 1: line of defense, how much action, how much responsibility now 217 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 1: on that second level of this defense. 218 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:44,480 Speaker 3: And Craig, you know, we get these preseason games. A 219 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 3: lot of people dismiss the preseason games, but at an 220 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:51,400 Speaker 3: inside linebacker spot, you can tell right away how instinctive 221 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:55,760 Speaker 3: those inside linebackers are. Because most teams are running vanilla offenses. 222 00:11:55,760 --> 00:11:58,320 Speaker 3: If you can't read and react in a preseason game, 223 00:11:58,559 --> 00:12:02,000 Speaker 3: you're doomed as an inside linebackers. So we've seen certain 224 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:04,360 Speaker 3: guys come out and all of a sudden, you're calling 225 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:06,880 Speaker 3: their name a lot during the course of a preseason game. 226 00:12:06,920 --> 00:12:10,160 Speaker 3: They're really in on almost every single tackle. I could 227 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:12,720 Speaker 3: easily see an Owen Papo being one of those guys 228 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:15,840 Speaker 3: in the second half of these preseason games because I've 229 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:18,840 Speaker 3: had offensive linemen as well. The way they ternamin his 230 00:12:18,960 --> 00:12:23,560 Speaker 3: flow man, that linebacker really flows, meaning he's just instantaneously 231 00:12:23,559 --> 00:12:25,840 Speaker 3: he reacts and he's able to get to the ball carrier, 232 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:31,360 Speaker 3: get through traffic, and so so we'll see. Look, there 233 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:34,800 Speaker 3: truly is a lot of competition in almost every single 234 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 3: position room. If not for the starting for example, running back, 235 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:42,000 Speaker 3: you have James Connor and totally undetermined, is it not? 236 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:45,680 Speaker 3: So at this point, it's going to make for an 237 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:48,560 Speaker 3: intriguing preseason. It really is a lot of times you 238 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 3: go into a certain team and they have a certain 239 00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:53,680 Speaker 3: camp and it's all about just fine tuning and finding 240 00:12:53,679 --> 00:12:56,480 Speaker 3: the last couple of guys on the roster, solidify the 241 00:12:56,520 --> 00:12:59,720 Speaker 3: special teams. We've already got our two deep across the board. 242 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:02,720 Speaker 3: That is most definitely not the case right now with 243 00:13:02,760 --> 00:13:04,800 Speaker 3: the twenty twenty three Arizona Cardinals. 244 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 1: The only position where you might not be able to 245 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:11,640 Speaker 1: say that is the safety position because it is very 246 00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:15,880 Speaker 1: top heavy. Buddha Baker, Jalen Thompson, Isaiah Simmons once again 247 00:13:16,040 --> 00:13:19,720 Speaker 1: seeing him play deep center field when they do run 248 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:23,439 Speaker 1: three safeties, if it's just two, it's Buddha and Jalen. 249 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:28,240 Speaker 1: But before we get to Buddha, your thoughts on Isaiah 250 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:33,000 Speaker 1: Simmons seeing number nine and looking at him out on 251 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:35,880 Speaker 1: the field and seeing someone who is six ' four 252 00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:38,880 Speaker 1: two thirty eight, we talk about how close he can 253 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:41,080 Speaker 1: be up near the line of scrimmage. Paul, he is 254 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:43,760 Speaker 1: well off the line of scrimmage and he stands out, 255 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:46,120 Speaker 1: but he is your last line of defense. And I 256 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:49,400 Speaker 1: think this defense, this coaching staff is still trying to 257 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:52,560 Speaker 1: figure out the best way to utilize his skill set 258 00:13:52,679 --> 00:13:55,480 Speaker 1: based off what they've seen on film. And then all right, 259 00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:58,679 Speaker 1: well that's what that coaching staff did. This is what 260 00:13:58,760 --> 00:14:01,360 Speaker 1: we want to run on defense. How do we put 261 00:14:01,400 --> 00:14:04,160 Speaker 1: this athletic freak, if you will, on the field to 262 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:06,839 Speaker 1: make sure he's among the best eleven defenders. 263 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:09,280 Speaker 3: I mean, we saw him at times last year, at 264 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:13,720 Speaker 3: times occasionally in a deep center field safety spot. But 265 00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:17,640 Speaker 3: it's been consistent so far into this camp. So, all right, 266 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:20,880 Speaker 3: what are the positives of that? Just his size, his length, 267 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:24,520 Speaker 3: his explosion, his straight line speed, his ability to get 268 00:14:24,520 --> 00:14:27,400 Speaker 3: into those passing lanes. I gotta imagine you give quarterbacks 269 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:29,240 Speaker 3: something to think about it if they're going to throw down 270 00:14:29,280 --> 00:14:32,000 Speaker 3: the seam, because all of a sudden, Isaiah Simmons might 271 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 3: be lurking back there. We saw him with the pick 272 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:37,400 Speaker 3: six a year ago. In that sort of situation, He's 273 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:42,120 Speaker 3: able to jump the route. So what's interesting is when 274 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:45,400 Speaker 3: he was drafted, what was our big question about Isaiah Simmons? 275 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:47,840 Speaker 3: Does he have the physicality to put his face in 276 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:50,440 Speaker 3: the fan? And that actually has been the least of 277 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:55,000 Speaker 3: the questions with Isaiah Simmons. He does not hesitate to 278 00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:58,080 Speaker 3: run to the ball carrier and drive right through the 279 00:14:58,120 --> 00:15:01,680 Speaker 3: man with a physical tackle. But if you're playing center 280 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:05,080 Speaker 3: field safety, how often is that as opposed to being 281 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:07,360 Speaker 3: in the box where you would be more of an 282 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:10,080 Speaker 3: effective tackler. So it is very intriguing as to how 283 00:15:10,120 --> 00:15:13,120 Speaker 3: this staff sees Isaiah Simmons because so far it's been 284 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:16,120 Speaker 3: quite different than he was used his first three years 285 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:16,720 Speaker 3: in the league. 286 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:20,800 Speaker 1: Well, just last season pro Football Focus, Simmons had four 287 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:24,600 Speaker 1: hundred and nine defensive snaps as the slot corner, two 288 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:27,920 Speaker 1: ninety seven as a box defender, one ten on the 289 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:31,840 Speaker 1: defensive line, twenty eight as a wide corner, and fifty 290 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:36,800 Speaker 1: three at free safety. He played the entire game Week 291 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 1: seventeen in Atlanta as a full time safety. So maybe 292 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:44,400 Speaker 1: that was the Jodah Baker being out. Yeah, and that 293 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:47,120 Speaker 1: might be the jumping off point. Hey, it's how you 294 00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:51,680 Speaker 1: finished last season. Let's see if we can bridge this season. 295 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:54,880 Speaker 1: But I'm curious in just paying attention. Look, he'll stand 296 00:15:54,920 --> 00:15:57,800 Speaker 1: out because he's so tall, so athletic, and so big. 297 00:15:58,240 --> 00:16:00,880 Speaker 1: Where do we see isaiahs him? As we were told 298 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:05,160 Speaker 1: defensive backs, We've seen him practice the last offseason a 299 00:16:05,240 --> 00:16:09,240 Speaker 1: year ago, this offseason strictly with the safety group. Does 300 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:11,800 Speaker 1: that stay? And then how to use them on that 301 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:14,720 Speaker 1: secondary We've talked about all this season. 302 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:17,560 Speaker 3: Through a couple of big decisions, saving Collins the outside 303 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:20,240 Speaker 3: linebacker to the edge. I think that's permanent. He's not 304 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:24,920 Speaker 3: looking back. Paris Johnson Junior is starting right tackle. I 305 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:26,920 Speaker 3: just got corralled by Howard Ballzer up here in the 306 00:16:26,920 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 3: press box and he was arguing with me about that one. 307 00:16:29,760 --> 00:16:31,240 Speaker 3: If you want to get your best five out, there 308 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:34,680 Speaker 3: wouldn't be Beatrimant right tackle and perhaps Paris Johnson Junior 309 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:38,080 Speaker 3: left guard. Okay, but what does that do for this 310 00:16:38,160 --> 00:16:41,360 Speaker 3: team going forward? If Kelvin Beachuman is in the last 311 00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:43,640 Speaker 3: year as an Arizona Cardinal and or his last year 312 00:16:43,640 --> 00:16:46,960 Speaker 3: as an NFL player, what does that get the Cardinals 313 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:49,560 Speaker 3: going forward? You need to invest in these rookies, especially 314 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 3: when he's number six overall. And guess what, how long 315 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:55,360 Speaker 3: just the sheer upside of a Paris Johnson junior? How 316 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:57,200 Speaker 3: many reps? How many games does it take for a 317 00:16:57,200 --> 00:17:01,960 Speaker 3: Paris Johnson junior to exceed the abilities capabilities of a 318 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:05,320 Speaker 3: Calvin Beacham. I don't know, but you got to find out. 319 00:17:05,320 --> 00:17:06,720 Speaker 3: And at some point he's going to have to play 320 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:08,720 Speaker 3: tackle because that is his future position. So you know 321 00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:10,760 Speaker 3: what the time is now? At least in my opinion, 322 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:12,840 Speaker 3: and based on what I've seen from the coaches, that's 323 00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:16,560 Speaker 3: exactly their opinion as well. So now that brings us 324 00:17:16,560 --> 00:17:21,520 Speaker 3: to another player with a high pedigree, first round draft status, 325 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:25,919 Speaker 3: which is Isaiah Simmons. What is his future? They've already 326 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:29,040 Speaker 3: tried the position changed to deep center field safety. But 327 00:17:29,560 --> 00:17:31,880 Speaker 3: if you're looking at the entirety of the twenty twenty 328 00:17:31,960 --> 00:17:34,320 Speaker 3: draft class and every one of them is in a 329 00:17:34,359 --> 00:17:36,960 Speaker 3: contract year now because Isaiah Simmons fit that your option 330 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:40,000 Speaker 3: was not picked up, what do you do with Josh Jones? 331 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:42,520 Speaker 3: What do you do with Lucky Foeto and Rashard Lawrence? 332 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:46,360 Speaker 3: These are questions I think that hang over this new 333 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:51,560 Speaker 3: front office. Once again, two words, no allegiances. So if 334 00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:55,720 Speaker 3: they're not noticeably considerably better than someone else who might 335 00:17:55,920 --> 00:17:59,679 Speaker 3: be more apt to represent the future, is there a 336 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:02,840 Speaker 3: chance they're taking phone calls as we get later in camp, 337 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:05,560 Speaker 3: especially like on a Josh Jones, how many teams are 338 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:09,480 Speaker 3: in dire need of offensive line help? And if so, 339 00:18:09,600 --> 00:18:12,000 Speaker 3: far from what I've seen, he's running second team left tackle. 340 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:14,760 Speaker 3: But if Kelvin beacham beats him out as the swing tackle, 341 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:17,240 Speaker 3: because Beach did a great job the end of last 342 00:18:17,240 --> 00:18:19,560 Speaker 3: season filling in as a left tackle as well, and 343 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:21,119 Speaker 3: he's the first one to tell you I played a 344 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:23,840 Speaker 3: lot of left tackle on my decade long career. So 345 00:18:24,119 --> 00:18:26,680 Speaker 3: if he's just equipped, if not better equipped than Josh 346 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:30,479 Speaker 3: Jones in that capacity, are they looking to move on 347 00:18:30,560 --> 00:18:32,520 Speaker 3: from some of these guys instead of just letting them 348 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:35,280 Speaker 3: walk for nothing in return. I guess that's my rhetorical question. 349 00:18:35,359 --> 00:18:38,639 Speaker 1: And remember, the only reason Beach is playing on the 350 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:41,360 Speaker 1: right side of the line of scrimmage is because then 351 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:44,720 Speaker 1: offensive line coach Sean Cougler brought him here. And that's 352 00:18:44,760 --> 00:18:47,600 Speaker 1: the only reason Beach said it. That's not me saying it. 353 00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:50,320 Speaker 1: Beach said it. That's the only reason I'm here and 354 00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:53,400 Speaker 1: playing right tackle is because of Sean Cougler. Now that's 355 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:57,200 Speaker 1: continued into this coaching staff. But you're right, how many 356 00:18:57,240 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 1: tackles do you keep the versatility. We've seen Beach play 357 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:03,680 Speaker 1: inside a little bit. We've certainly seen Josh Jones play inside. 358 00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:08,000 Speaker 1: Wasn't pretty, But you need bodies out there, and you 359 00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:10,359 Speaker 1: need versatile bodies, especially on that second team. 360 00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:12,240 Speaker 3: And by the way, we just to finish up on 361 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:15,240 Speaker 3: Josh Jones because we've had this debate before. Right He 362 00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:18,440 Speaker 3: has told the media repeatedly he is vastly more comfortable 363 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:21,159 Speaker 3: on the left side his entire college careers as a 364 00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:25,120 Speaker 3: left tackle. Well, that spot's occupied by the franchise left 365 00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:28,080 Speaker 3: tackle DJ Humphreys. He played a lot of right guard 366 00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:30,520 Speaker 3: two years ago, did not go well to your point. 367 00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:33,199 Speaker 3: I think everyone would agree, including the coaching staff at 368 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:35,919 Speaker 3: the time. And then we speculated, well, maybe he'd be 369 00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:39,000 Speaker 3: better as a left guard if he's just more comfortable 370 00:19:39,040 --> 00:19:41,320 Speaker 3: on the left side. But I did a little digging 371 00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:45,080 Speaker 3: on that. Most of those in the know offensive line 372 00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:49,240 Speaker 3: coaches just coaches period, said Nope, he's a tackle, he's 373 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:51,960 Speaker 3: not a guard. So either he's going to be the 374 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:54,720 Speaker 3: swing tackle on this team or he might not be 375 00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:57,760 Speaker 3: on this team. The question is, is there an interest 376 00:19:58,160 --> 00:20:00,800 Speaker 3: in him around the league? Can he get a Day 377 00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:06,200 Speaker 3: three pick, for example? And I think that's a feasible, 378 00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:10,080 Speaker 3: realistic question to ask. Where it gets a little more 379 00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:13,399 Speaker 3: dicey and becomes almost a borderline hot take is when 380 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:16,240 Speaker 3: you think out loud, might that apply to Isaiah Simmons 381 00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:20,000 Speaker 3: as well? If he doesn't really distance himself from the 382 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:22,440 Speaker 3: other safeties behind Buddha and Jalen Thompson. 383 00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:27,000 Speaker 1: There is no question about Buddha Baker's future this season, 384 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:32,200 Speaker 1: not so sure about next offseason. But Friday after practice 385 00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:35,119 Speaker 1: we had a chance to hear from Buddha. Baker walked 386 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:38,119 Speaker 1: into the press room with a big smile on his 387 00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:40,920 Speaker 1: face and facts I don't think I've seen Buddha without 388 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:43,720 Speaker 1: a big smile on his face since training camp has begun. 389 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:47,200 Speaker 1: It's because, as we saw from reports, he did get 390 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:49,760 Speaker 1: a little bit more money in his pocket. Did not 391 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:54,320 Speaker 1: see an increase in his salary this year, it was guaranteed. 392 00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:59,399 Speaker 1: Next year still not guaranteed, but there are certainly bonuses 393 00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:04,359 Speaker 1: and per foremance incentives easily reachable for Buddha Baker. So 394 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:08,320 Speaker 1: he is a little bit happier as he perhaps can 395 00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:11,560 Speaker 1: he be happier, I'm sure he can, but just to 396 00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:15,280 Speaker 1: hear him, the intensity in his answer is that he's 397 00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:18,399 Speaker 1: all in. He knows that this team there are not 398 00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:22,320 Speaker 1: a lot of expectations. In his words, that's okay, but quote, 399 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:26,040 Speaker 1: I'm not counting us out for anything. Buddha Baker has 400 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:30,159 Speaker 1: a large chip on his shoulder, even larger than was 401 00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:33,119 Speaker 1: already there based off of his draft status and the 402 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:35,480 Speaker 1: disrespect that he has felt throughout the league since he 403 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:39,520 Speaker 1: got into the league. I'm expecting big things from number three. 404 00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:43,120 Speaker 1: And remember it is number three, not number thirty two. 405 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:48,000 Speaker 3: People. It is inexcusable. In fact, it's so inexcusable you 406 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:51,800 Speaker 3: want a conspiracy theory because Buddha is triggered by that. 407 00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:56,639 Speaker 3: There's no doubt he's hot that they went with how 408 00:21:56,680 --> 00:21:58,919 Speaker 3: long is he Eaves been wearing three for two seasons, right, 409 00:21:58,960 --> 00:21:59,919 Speaker 3: twenty one and twenty two. 410 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:01,480 Speaker 1: I think he goes back to twenty twenty. 411 00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:05,439 Speaker 3: So that is such a heinous mistake by the media 412 00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:09,960 Speaker 3: to go with number thirty two in all the pictures 413 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:12,639 Speaker 3: online and so forth. So all right, it was almost like, 414 00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:16,119 Speaker 3: did somebody do that intentionally to stoke the fire that 415 00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:19,240 Speaker 3: is now driving Buddha Baker. Maybe at the end of 416 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:22,080 Speaker 3: the year, the team might say thank you, thank you 417 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:26,600 Speaker 3: for playing that disrespect card just in number thirty two 418 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:31,120 Speaker 3: instead of his number three number being splashed around. Because man, 419 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:34,240 Speaker 3: he's taken that personal. He really has. He's mentioned that 420 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:37,399 Speaker 3: on his own a few different times. But look, this 421 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:40,680 Speaker 3: started in the offseason. The shoulder injury really the first 422 00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:44,080 Speaker 3: significant serious injury of his career, because he came right 423 00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:46,240 Speaker 3: back from the high ankle spring mid season. We saw 424 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:48,720 Speaker 3: that and had a chance to visit with him a 425 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:52,480 Speaker 3: little bit. He said he went Bill Belichick, no days off, 426 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:57,639 Speaker 3: he didn't take a significant vacation of any sort, changed 427 00:22:57,720 --> 00:23:01,960 Speaker 3: up his diet. He's actually he feels quicker, stronger, he's 428 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:04,879 Speaker 3: a little heavier. He's just beyond one hundred ninety pounds, 429 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:06,960 Speaker 3: usually plays like one to eighty five or so, says 430 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:10,120 Speaker 3: he feels quicker. His upper body's even stronger to try 431 00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:12,640 Speaker 3: and you know, take some of those hits which he's 432 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:17,160 Speaker 3: infamous for. So yes, I do expect a huge season 433 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:19,119 Speaker 3: from Budda Baker. And that's saying something because over the 434 00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:22,000 Speaker 3: last five years, I think the stat goes he has more. 435 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:24,880 Speaker 3: He has one hundred more tackles than any other safety 436 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:29,159 Speaker 3: in the NFL. That's how superior he's been over that 437 00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:32,600 Speaker 3: sample size of play in the NFL. When it comes 438 00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:35,640 Speaker 3: to his position, he's just one of the premier players, 439 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:38,040 Speaker 3: and he's convinced he doesn't get treated like it or 440 00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:40,280 Speaker 3: the respect that comes along with it, and he's on 441 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:41,080 Speaker 3: a mission this year. 442 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:44,760 Speaker 1: Let me correct myself. It was twenty twenty one the 443 00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:47,639 Speaker 1: first season in which Buddabaker did wear number three, So 444 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:51,160 Speaker 1: that's twenty twenty one, that's twenty twenty two, and now 445 00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:54,399 Speaker 1: here we are in twenty twenty three. To your point, inexcusable. 446 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:57,879 Speaker 1: And the latest example was the NFL Network's Top one 447 00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:01,760 Speaker 1: hundred and the picture that they showed Buddha wearing number 448 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:06,679 Speaker 1: thirty two. He responded on Instagram, And it is something 449 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:09,000 Speaker 1: that I don't think he is ever going to let go, 450 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:13,159 Speaker 1: at least not this season. Because the great athletes, the 451 00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:19,760 Speaker 1: exceptional athletes, they use those little motivational things, the little hits, 452 00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:22,960 Speaker 1: the little dings, and they blow it up. They make it, 453 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:25,439 Speaker 1: as you say, the little things become big things for 454 00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:30,840 Speaker 1: those Michael Jordan's Lebron James, those disrespect they blow it 455 00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:32,960 Speaker 1: up to where and all of a sudden, that's gonna 456 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:36,160 Speaker 1: fuel them each and every day, each and every week. 457 00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:39,320 Speaker 1: And I like what I heard out of Buddha, and 458 00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:42,240 Speaker 1: I'm expecting to see because we've always seen it. There's 459 00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:45,560 Speaker 1: been no doubt that even if things didn't get worked 460 00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:47,760 Speaker 1: out or whatever, Buddha's just not that type of person, 461 00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:49,480 Speaker 1: not that type of player that's gonna sit back and 462 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:53,960 Speaker 1: not work hard and play hard. But there is just 463 00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:56,440 Speaker 1: maybe a little bit more intensity in him. 464 00:24:56,480 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 3: This season. He was the star hard knocks for two months. 465 00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:03,000 Speaker 3: How can they not get his number right? So is 466 00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:07,200 Speaker 3: in as implausible as that is, I'll say this much. 467 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:09,919 Speaker 3: I think he was driven last year. It is just 468 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:11,800 Speaker 3: me and my own theory, there was a lot of 469 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:15,639 Speaker 3: talk this time last year Jalen Thompson might have closed 470 00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:18,320 Speaker 3: the gap on Buddha Baker. Jalen Thompson had signed his 471 00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:22,440 Speaker 3: own contract extension and you know what, maybe Jalen Thompson 472 00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:25,440 Speaker 3: might be tracking to be better than Buddha Baker. There 473 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:27,679 Speaker 3: was a few whispers around there, a few media members 474 00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:31,960 Speaker 3: wondering thinking openly the conjecture. And you can't tell me 475 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:34,480 Speaker 3: Buddha didn't hear that, just like he didn't he noticed. 476 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:38,760 Speaker 3: He notices and reads pretty much everything. So to your point, 477 00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:42,399 Speaker 3: I think that fueled him because he obviously separated himself 478 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:45,919 Speaker 3: last year with a certified All pro season Buddha Baker. 479 00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:49,960 Speaker 3: And then you saw what an all Pro teammate and 480 00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:53,920 Speaker 3: just member of the culture he is behind the scenes 481 00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:58,359 Speaker 3: NFL films just will you know they verified that, And 482 00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:02,800 Speaker 3: so okay, now you understand, I understand why in my opinion, 483 00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:05,199 Speaker 3: it is a win win. Did the front office have 484 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:06,840 Speaker 3: to give a little more money in the form of 485 00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:09,560 Speaker 3: incentives and what two point four million best case scenario 486 00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:12,479 Speaker 3: he gets over the course of the sir, Sure, and 487 00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:16,240 Speaker 3: then but guess what they get a guy who's basically 488 00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:20,399 Speaker 3: epitomizes everything that Jonathan Cannon wants to install, period. 489 00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:25,200 Speaker 1: And Buddha understands what's at stake for him and his future, 490 00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:28,040 Speaker 1: not just what the Cardinals, but in the National Football League. 491 00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:31,880 Speaker 1: Because there was a question asked about loyalty and allegiance, 492 00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:35,560 Speaker 1: and his response was, look, this is a business at 493 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:37,159 Speaker 1: the end of the day, and at the end of 494 00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:38,960 Speaker 1: the day, all he's going to do is quote, put 495 00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:41,840 Speaker 1: my head down and grind each and every day because 496 00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:44,359 Speaker 1: that's the one thing that he can't control. That's the 497 00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:48,040 Speaker 1: one thing everyone can control, is what you do. Buddha 498 00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:51,640 Speaker 1: can't control what Moni might think or Michael Bidwell might 499 00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:55,560 Speaker 1: think or want to do, but you force their hand 500 00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:59,719 Speaker 1: keep me because I am too valuable to get rid 501 00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:01,159 Speaker 1: of Well. 502 00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:04,320 Speaker 3: And if you're talking about loyalty, you're really talking about 503 00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:07,800 Speaker 3: the loyalty between the player and the owner. Because as 504 00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:11,880 Speaker 3: Buddha cited numerous times, he's had four different coaching staffs, 505 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:15,560 Speaker 3: now Va, Steve Wilkes, Cliff Kingsbury, and now Jonathan Gannon. 506 00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:19,760 Speaker 3: So the loyalty is to Michael Bidwell. The loyalty is 507 00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:23,199 Speaker 3: to the team and the town, the brand that is 508 00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:28,040 Speaker 3: the Arizona Cardinals and Mike don't doubt about it. He 509 00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:31,320 Speaker 3: is the beating heart of that defense and maybe the 510 00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:32,240 Speaker 3: entire locker room. 511 00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:34,520 Speaker 1: And he might not have been at the facility, but 512 00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:38,119 Speaker 1: he made it very clear several times that he was engaged, 513 00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:43,000 Speaker 1: whether with his teammates Jalen Thompson, Isaiah Simmons, watching film. 514 00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:46,960 Speaker 1: So there was maybe not the presence of Buddha and 515 00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:49,800 Speaker 1: the facility, but he was still doing work, as we 516 00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:52,040 Speaker 1: like to say, the mental reps of the classroom work. 517 00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:54,960 Speaker 1: He just wasn't doing it out on the football field. 518 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:57,320 Speaker 1: So yeah, he might be a little behind as far 519 00:27:57,359 --> 00:27:59,560 Speaker 1: as actually going through the motions, but he's not as 520 00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:01,560 Speaker 1: far by as you might think if it was some 521 00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:04,040 Speaker 1: other player that it's just, you know what, I'm just 522 00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:05,800 Speaker 1: gonna do my own thing and didn't come in when 523 00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:06,560 Speaker 1: it is mandatory. 524 00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:08,680 Speaker 3: There was a team session today in fact Okay, and 525 00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:12,800 Speaker 3: we said it's one of those lower intensity days that 526 00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:16,080 Speaker 3: doesn't really apply to Buddha Baker. He might not be tackling, 527 00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:19,080 Speaker 3: but the intensity is still sky high. He came off 528 00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:21,879 Speaker 3: after a team session, the ones came off, and all 529 00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:24,119 Speaker 3: the fans could hear this as well, because one of 530 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:27,080 Speaker 3: the coaches shouted out when the defensive coaches said, Buddha, 531 00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:30,760 Speaker 3: I know you're not happy. Let's talk, and they went over. 532 00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:33,680 Speaker 3: Apparently a check went wrong when the offense went into 533 00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:37,720 Speaker 3: some sort of different formation and the defensive backfield didn't 534 00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:41,880 Speaker 3: adjust as they should have, and sure enough, Buddha and 535 00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:44,160 Speaker 3: the coach and then Jalen Thompson, they all huddled up. 536 00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:47,840 Speaker 3: And so that's just who he is though. He is 537 00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:52,600 Speaker 3: that perfectionist. He is that guy who set out after 538 00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:54,960 Speaker 3: a Pro Bowl season and said, you know what, no 539 00:28:55,120 --> 00:29:00,960 Speaker 3: day's off, I'm going back to work this offseason. And 540 00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:05,360 Speaker 3: and you know what he is, he's really convinced that 541 00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:08,160 Speaker 3: a lot of the naysayers have it wrong about this 542 00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:10,960 Speaker 3: Cardinals team, especially the Cardinals offense. A lot of those 543 00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:13,360 Speaker 3: guys on the defensive side of the ball, they like 544 00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:16,040 Speaker 3: what they're seeing. Some of the conversations I've had with 545 00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:19,000 Speaker 3: some of the guys been like, don't sleep on that offense. 546 00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:21,760 Speaker 3: They have enough. They have enough to score points and 547 00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:24,800 Speaker 3: move the ball. And when I see Colt McCoy out there, 548 00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:28,560 Speaker 3: Craig is just my own take early, early takeaway is 549 00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:31,960 Speaker 3: that how much better is this system suited to Colt 550 00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:35,480 Speaker 3: McCoy's skill set than the spread being in the gun 551 00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:37,800 Speaker 3: all the time. And if they really are going to 552 00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:41,840 Speaker 3: have a potent run game and a balanced offense with 553 00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:44,760 Speaker 3: play action, then another team's going to have to respect. 554 00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:49,640 Speaker 3: Then the downfield passing attack has to be a lot better, 555 00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:53,800 Speaker 3: even minus DeAndre Hopkins. And I think just the processing 556 00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:57,920 Speaker 3: and the accuracy of a Colt McCoy is enough, is 557 00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:01,280 Speaker 3: enough to where you'll score an points where I don't 558 00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:03,120 Speaker 3: think that'll be the liability of this team. 559 00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:06,000 Speaker 1: And we should see a lot more of Colt McCoy 560 00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:09,080 Speaker 1: on Saturday than we did on Friday as far as 561 00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:13,440 Speaker 1: actually completing passes, whether that's a screen pass or a 562 00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:16,920 Speaker 1: deep pass because Cole yes, he practiced, just didn't attempt 563 00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:19,640 Speaker 1: and he passes out on the football field. A couple 564 00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:22,720 Speaker 1: of other quick guidence before we call it a Friday 565 00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:25,640 Speaker 1: here on Cardinals cover two percent to a Hyundai partner 566 00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:29,040 Speaker 1: of the Arizona Cardinals, Hollywood Brown Trey McBride. I did 567 00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:32,560 Speaker 1: not see participate in eleven on eleven. They were out 568 00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:35,440 Speaker 1: doing much of everything else except for eleven on eleven 569 00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:38,680 Speaker 1: and my Jay Sanders, the second year edge rusher, left 570 00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:41,840 Speaker 1: practice Thursday because, in the words of the head coach, 571 00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:45,520 Speaker 1: banged his hand, did not see number forty one anywhere 572 00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:48,280 Speaker 1: on Friday. So it's just to come some things to 573 00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:50,040 Speaker 1: keep an eye on for those that are coming out 574 00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:51,000 Speaker 1: on Saturday. 575 00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:55,480 Speaker 3: Look my Jay Sanders in that edge position. It's really intriguing. 576 00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:58,960 Speaker 3: I mean, you have a number of guys at that position, 577 00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:01,959 Speaker 3: and how exactly is that going to shake out? You know, 578 00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:06,400 Speaker 3: Zavin Collins and Dennis Gardeck will be given every single opportunity, 579 00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:09,120 Speaker 3: but a my j Sanders a camp. Thomas has looked 580 00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:12,280 Speaker 3: impressive so far. He's another guy who had a top 581 00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:15,800 Speaker 3: five offseason BG O Jalai. At some point we think 582 00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:17,880 Speaker 3: we're going to see at least that's what we're being told. 583 00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:20,280 Speaker 3: And Victor d me Cage is running with the first 584 00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:22,880 Speaker 3: or second team, so it's really a make or break 585 00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:25,720 Speaker 3: year for him as the lower round draft pick a 586 00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:28,480 Speaker 3: couple of years ago. So yeah, we'll see. I mean, 587 00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:31,000 Speaker 3: and as soon as they get pads on on Monday. 588 00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:33,360 Speaker 3: I mean, if you want to talk about the physicality 589 00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:36,840 Speaker 3: of the camp, it's coming. You can just hear that 590 00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:40,560 Speaker 3: train coming down the tracks and maybe arguably the best 591 00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:43,880 Speaker 3: SoundBite of camp so far. Was when Jonathan Gannon was 592 00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:46,920 Speaker 3: asked about James Conner yesterday and he's just talking about Oh, 593 00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:48,840 Speaker 3: I like the fact he can run inside and out, 594 00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:51,320 Speaker 3: he has power, he has speed, he can make guys miss, 595 00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:54,880 Speaker 3: and I'm excited to quote watch him get behind this 596 00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:59,800 Speaker 3: old line and cram the ball vertical. Cram the ball vertical. 597 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:03,480 Speaker 3: That needs to be some sort of marketing slogan. Maybe 598 00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:05,720 Speaker 3: if this Cardinals team comes out and they have a 599 00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:07,600 Speaker 3: top ten rushing attack, put. 600 00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:11,240 Speaker 1: That on a bumper sticker, Yes, especially on James Connor's car, 601 00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:14,760 Speaker 1: perhaps in the parking lot there. So maybe that will 602 00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:17,840 Speaker 1: be on display on Saturday again, is back together weekend 603 00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:20,760 Speaker 1: Cardinals at the practice field one point fifteen at his 604 00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:24,680 Speaker 1: Cardinals training camp powered by Cox Manti Austin Fort Jonathan 605 00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:27,640 Speaker 1: Gannon both will address the fans. There is a kid's 606 00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:31,600 Speaker 1: interactive zone, selfie station. Team shop will be open and 607 00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:35,120 Speaker 1: again come yell, scream, bring your signs for Paul Calvc 608 00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:38,200 Speaker 1: as well, get his attention. I'm sure he'll still be 609 00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:42,280 Speaker 1: rocking that mustache because we have not hit August quite yet. 610 00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:44,200 Speaker 1: At the end of July. Now we'll have the wait 611 00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:46,720 Speaker 1: and see if that mustache last through the weekend. 612 00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:49,240 Speaker 3: Go easy on the mustache. I'm sensitive well. 613 00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:52,920 Speaker 1: Gannon went easy on his team today as Cardinals had 614 00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:56,920 Speaker 1: a lighter practice on Friday, And on that note, we 615 00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:59,280 Speaker 1: will put a lid on this edition of Cardinals Cover two, 616 00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:02,120 Speaker 1: presented by Hunt, a proud partner of the Arizona Cardinals. 617 00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:05,280 Speaker 1: As always, special thanks to our executive producer Joe Mamahndre, 618 00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:10,280 Speaker 1: our associate producer Cody Fincher, also our honorary producers Tim 619 00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:14,040 Speaker 1: Beach and Sam Hup. For Paul Calvc, I'm Craig Real Lou. 620 00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:16,640 Speaker 1: We'll talk to you next time here on Cardinals Cover two.