Speaker 1: I'm under a gunning and this is Betrayal Bonus episode three, Parole.
Speaker 1: This is a conversation Jen and I recorded on Thursday,
Speaker 1: July twenty eight I wanted us get on a call because, like,
Speaker 1: as of I think about an hour ago, Spencer was
Speaker 1: released from prison. Yeah, it's crazy because there were moments
Speaker 1: during all of this where he was going to get parole,
Speaker 1: and then a year ago he got his parole revoked
Speaker 1: after the victim wrote a letter to the parole board,
Speaker 1: and then they granted him parole, and he was supposed
Speaker 1: to get out in June, and then they denied him
Speaker 1: transitional housing and now all of a sudden, he is out.
Speaker 1: And so how much time did he actually do behind bars.
Speaker 1: He got charged on six counts of sexual assault of
Speaker 1: a student. He was sentenced for each of those counts
Speaker 1: to twenty years, but only to serve five of those
Speaker 1: years in prison, and he was serving all six counts
Speaker 1: at the same time concurrently. And he got out in
Speaker 1: four years in one month. It feels like a long
Speaker 1: time ago that the police came and arrested him from
Speaker 1: our house and now he's walking out of those prison walls.
Speaker 1: It's almost like a lifetime ago. I'm a different person now.
Speaker 1: I've just gone through a lot, and I think I'm
Speaker 1: stronger for it. Oh, there's no question. I mean, we've
Speaker 1: talked a lot about the person you were when that
Speaker 1: happened in twenty eighteen and the person that you are now,
Speaker 1: and you're still gen but there's been so much more
Speaker 1: to your foundation and strength that you've accumulated over the
Speaker 1: last four years. But when did you find out? So
Speaker 1: it's weird. I thought the state was going to give
Speaker 1: me seventy two hours notice before he got out. Instead,
Speaker 1: Rachel called me last week and said I got a
Speaker 1: message that he was getting out. So that's how I
Speaker 1: found out. I think she knew how important it was
Speaker 1: to me to know as well. So it's one of
Speaker 1: those things where whoever had gotten the information first would
Speaker 1: have called the other. She and I stay in touch,
Speaker 1: We support each other. How was she doing with the news?
Speaker 1: Was it tough? Yeah? I think it's tough for her
Speaker 1: right now. She's still feeling nervousness, fear, and you know,
Speaker 1: just the unknown. You know, when someone who has sexually
Speaker 1: assaulted you gets out of prison, I can imagine makes
Speaker 1: it feel more real. I saw her for ice cream
Speaker 1: a few days later. Oh a way. Yeah, we had
Speaker 1: a really nice time. We made each other laugh, we
Speaker 1: supported one another. You know, it just helps to know
Speaker 1: you're not alone out there. Do you ever mentally dress
Speaker 1: rehears running into him and what you would potentially say. Oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's my Charlotte moment from Sex in the City when
Speaker 1: she runs into mister Big. You know you've been playing
Speaker 1: that in your head. When I think about seeing him
Speaker 1: face to face, that's when I get scared. And I
Speaker 1: don't know what I would say anymore. Because I am
Speaker 1: different now, or I see it differently. I may be
Speaker 1: able to have a conversation with him, but it's going
Speaker 1: to come from a different place now. I don't know
Speaker 1: what that is yet, but it'll probably happen one day
Speaker 1: and I'll figure it out before then. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: what do you say or what do you ask someone
Speaker 1: that has spent almost his entire life lying and manipulating. Yeah, gosh,
Speaker 1: whoever picked him up and is allowing him to live
Speaker 1: in their home. I pray keeps their eyes open for
Speaker 1: the safety of other people physically and mentally and emotionally. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they're still going to be people in his life that
Speaker 1: love him and care for him. I just hope now
Speaker 1: they're equipped with all the information so that they can
Speaker 1: hold him accountable for getting help, because this issue that
Speaker 1: he has is not something that can just go away
Speaker 1: in six months. This is going to take from what
Speaker 1: I understand, intensive intensive therapy and work to I don't
Speaker 1: know if you ever overcome it, just what do you
Speaker 1: call it? Live a normal life. I always go back
Speaker 1: to you November of twenty nineteen, and I think about
Speaker 1: what that Jen would be like if we hadn't gone
Speaker 1: through everything, if you had n't put in the work,
Speaker 1: we hadn't gone through this process. That gen may still
Speaker 1: be here today, but she is not hope. And I
Speaker 1: just know how much people have been impacted. I see
Speaker 1: emails and people who are getting out of relationships or
Speaker 1: trying to fix their toxic work environment just because they've
Speaker 1: heard you and are empowered. You've empowered people, and I'm
Speaker 1: just so proud of you. You have no idea. Oh
Speaker 1: thank you friend. If you'd like to reach out to
Speaker 1: the Betrayal Team, email us at Betrayalpod at gmail dot com.
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