WEBVTT - VisionQuest Episodes 3 & 4 0:00:00.270 --> 0:00:05.809 Warning, today's episode contains spoilers for Vision Quest episodes 3 0:00:05.809 --> 0:00:07.970 and 4. 0:00:11.770 --> 0:00:23.759 Hello, my name is Jason Concepcion. 0:00:24.100 --> 0:00:24.959 And I'm Rosie Knight. 0:00:25.700 --> 0:00:27.580 And welcome back to X-Ray Vision, the podcast where we 0:00:27.600 --> 0:00:30.030 dive deep It's your favorite shows, movies, comics, and pop. 0:00:29.930 --> 0:00:31.600 Culture coming from my heart, where we're bringing you three 0:00:31.620 --> 0:00:35.440 episodes a week, plus news on Saturday. We're at iHeart Podcast, 0:00:35.460 --> 0:00:37.640 where we'll be bringing you those three episodes a week. 0:00:37.680 --> 0:00:40.449 And in today's episode is one of those episodes. We 0:00:40.479 --> 0:00:43.010 are diving into the next two episodes of Vision Quest. 0:00:43.070 --> 0:00:45.629 If you haven't already listened, and if you didn't watch 0:00:45.710 --> 0:00:48.110 both episodes, because quite a few people in the Discord 0:00:48.370 --> 0:00:50.990 were so impressed by the first episode, they just assumed 0:00:51.030 --> 0:00:53.670 that was it. And they found out this morning that 0:00:53.700 --> 0:00:55.680 there's actually two. So listen to the first, watch the 0:00:55.720 --> 0:00:57.880 first two episodes, listen to our recap, listen to our 0:00:57.920 --> 0:01:01.100 deep dive, watch the second two episodes, which are out now. 0:01:01.970 --> 0:01:03.690 and then listen to us talk about them, and they 0:01:03.750 --> 0:01:05.630 are crazy. We thought the first two were good, but 0:01:05.730 --> 0:01:09.510 these really elevate where this show is at. It's so 0:01:09.610 --> 0:01:10.250 freaking good. 0:01:12.330 --> 0:01:17.929 Okay, Vision Quest Episode 3, we open in the Memory Palace. 0:01:18.230 --> 0:01:25.280 Ultron is upstairs painting while watching his bank of televisions, 0:01:25.959 --> 0:01:30.480 and on those TVs, Ultron, by the way, somehow able 0:01:30.540 --> 0:01:35.810 to get outside signals outside internet, outside television signals that 0:01:35.850 --> 0:01:36.470 shouldn't be allowed. 0:01:36.490 --> 0:01:38.300 He's been sending emails, remember? 0:01:38.660 --> 0:01:41.819 Ultron. He's up to stuff. He's watching a news report 0:01:41.880 --> 0:01:45.639 about the Butcher Bird Killer, who is a serial killer, 0:01:46.220 --> 0:01:50.520 who has been attacking scientists, mutilating them in horrible ways, 0:01:50.620 --> 0:01:55.660 and carving an image of wings around the body. 0:01:56.240 --> 0:01:58.080 And impaling them on their bones. 0:01:58.100 --> 0:01:59.090 Impaling, cutting eyes out. 0:01:59.100 --> 0:02:00.320 He's really over the top. 0:02:00.950 --> 0:02:04.670 Just really weird stuff. Ultron takes note because he's like, oh, 0:02:04.730 --> 0:02:10.830 something interesting here. These scientists. What kind of scientists? It's London. Nighttime. 0:02:11.790 --> 0:02:14.750 One of these scientists, apparently. He's a scared man in 0:02:14.790 --> 0:02:17.960 a high-rise building. He's got his, you know, he's shutting 0:02:17.980 --> 0:02:22.820 his blinds. He's got a security system on, his AI-powered 0:02:22.860 --> 0:02:28.669 security system, apparently. He gets a shotgun out and... Sadly, 0:02:28.910 --> 0:02:32.160 his security system is no match for the hacking abilities 0:02:32.220 --> 0:02:35.760 of whoever is attacking him because the security system shuts 0:02:35.820 --> 0:02:39.660 itself down. Up comes the private elevator to his penthouse 0:02:39.680 --> 0:02:43.700 suite and a person with a hood and glowing red 0:02:43.900 --> 0:02:47.470 eyes steps out of the elevator. He shoots at this person, 0:02:47.500 --> 0:02:51.010 does nothing. And we cut away to in the car 0:02:51.210 --> 0:02:55.889 after the events of episode two. Tommy wants to know, 0:02:56.650 --> 0:02:59.790 You know, she's very worried about dear old dad, although 0:03:00.210 --> 0:03:01.970 I don't think either of them has fully come to 0:03:02.030 --> 0:03:05.370 terms with that part of their relationship yet. Not yet. 0:03:05.790 --> 0:03:07.590 But we will get there and it will be emotional. 0:03:08.130 --> 0:03:11.610 It's bubbling under the surface, but neither of them can 0:03:11.650 --> 0:03:14.730 really come out and say that's what's going on here. 0:03:15.370 --> 0:03:17.290 But Tommy is, of course, very worried about Vision, who 0:03:17.650 --> 0:03:20.630 is severely damaged. He's like, where can we go? How 0:03:20.669 --> 0:03:25.079 can we fix you? And Vision is like, well... There 0:03:25.100 --> 0:03:28.880 was Banner, but he's unavailable. It's really like there's nothing 0:03:29.580 --> 0:03:32.220 we can do, essentially, Vision is saying. Meanwhile, the AIs 0:03:32.260 --> 0:03:35.200 are inside the memory palace, and they're just doing everything 0:03:35.240 --> 0:03:40.180 they can to keep Vision alive. Friday is thinking about, 0:03:40.200 --> 0:03:42.490 you know, maybe I'm the one who deletes next. Like, 0:03:42.540 --> 0:03:44.430 maybe I should do it. And Eve is like, no, no, no, no. 0:03:44.930 --> 0:03:48.230 We're not there yet. Don't do it. So they begin brainstorming. 0:03:49.280 --> 0:03:53.340 They need to cauterize this terrible gaping, like, stomach wound 0:03:53.380 --> 0:03:59.070 that's leaking some sort of, you know, synthetic lubricant and goo, 0:03:59.110 --> 0:04:04.450 some synthetic blue goo out of him. And Viz, all 0:04:04.490 --> 0:04:08.710 of a sudden, in the car, smells sulfuric. 0:04:08.290 --> 0:04:09.510 Acid, battery acid. 0:04:09.550 --> 0:04:11.650 He's like, stop the car. Goes to the back of 0:04:11.670 --> 0:04:15.369 the car. There is a car battery back there. And he, like, 0:04:15.970 --> 0:04:18.230 opens it up, tears it apart, and pours it into 0:04:18.270 --> 0:04:23.880 the wound. like fucking Commando or Rambo or something. Screaming, ah! 0:04:25.650 --> 0:04:29.010 Also, important moment for us power scalers who are wondering 0:04:29.050 --> 0:04:33.630 about it. Yes. Tommy does suggest the cigarette lighter and 0:04:33.650 --> 0:04:36.200 this says not hot enough. And I kind of love 0:04:36.220 --> 0:04:38.099 that because it's a very working class kid thing to 0:04:38.140 --> 0:04:40.619 do to just be like, well, cauterize the wound with this. 0:04:40.980 --> 0:04:43.640 But we know, no, he needs to basically boil it 0:04:43.680 --> 0:04:46.860 with this sulfuric acid. And then he kind of, I 0:04:46.900 --> 0:04:49.000 think the pain and the shock kind of shuts him down. 0:04:49.300 --> 0:04:50.340 Yes. 0:04:50.400 --> 0:04:51.420 Right. Yeah. 0:04:51.460 --> 0:04:53.779 He goes into like a lock. He locks up and 0:04:53.800 --> 0:04:54.600 basically reboots. 0:04:54.700 --> 0:04:54.940 But. 0:04:55.860 --> 0:05:00.950 The wound does seal, and it manages to stabilize his 0:05:01.029 --> 0:05:07.200 systems for the time being. Meanwhile, Kunk, who... I will 0:05:07.230 --> 0:05:08.970 just continue to refer to as Kunk. 0:05:09.010 --> 0:05:11.910 Well, they only name her as the handler, so I 0:05:11.970 --> 0:05:15.170 think they want us to think it's Philomena Kunk, right? 0:05:15.250 --> 0:05:18.570 And she's delivering. She's got the eye makeup, the heavy mascara. 0:05:18.970 --> 0:05:21.610 I have to say, her and Todd together, they have 0:05:21.650 --> 0:05:25.140 great chemistry. And also, Jason, I want to say, as 0:05:25.180 --> 0:05:28.000 we will learn in this episode... But like you were 0:05:28.040 --> 0:05:30.420 kind of onto something in the first two episodes about 0:05:30.460 --> 0:05:33.060 why he doesn't really seem like a paladin. And that 0:05:33.080 --> 0:05:36.720 wasn't weird casting. That was actually great narrative choices. 0:05:36.940 --> 0:05:39.669 I completely agree. As you get to these episodes, we 0:05:39.700 --> 0:05:43.010 will talk about that. So anyway, there's some crazy Easter 0:05:43.050 --> 0:05:46.050 eggs here. So go drop it, Jason. Holy shit. The 0:05:46.110 --> 0:05:48.370 Easter eggs that we get in this little scene. So 0:05:48.430 --> 0:05:51.570 Kunk is talking to paladin as he himself is doing 0:05:51.610 --> 0:05:56.370 some field medicine because recall, Vision punched him 40 feet 0:05:56.529 --> 0:06:02.120 down a hallway and through a door. And he's discussing 0:06:02.160 --> 0:06:04.820 with her like all the things he's been through. And 0:06:04.860 --> 0:06:07.880 it's a crazy amount of stuff. He was bit by 0:06:07.940 --> 0:06:08.940 werewolf by night. 0:06:09.400 --> 0:06:13.340 Yeah, definitely. And he was totally reasonable man by day, 0:06:13.580 --> 0:06:15.600 which we love. So fun. 0:06:16.220 --> 0:06:18.920 He was concussed by Daredevil at one point. 0:06:18.940 --> 0:06:21.540 Got hit in the head with the billy club. 0:06:22.180 --> 0:06:25.060 And many other things. So this is like a wonderful 0:06:25.500 --> 0:06:29.810 example of like the living, breathing fabric of the MCU, 0:06:29.850 --> 0:06:33.010 all these things happening off screen. And, you know, the 0:06:33.210 --> 0:06:36.029 werewolf by night who we haven't seen since the Marvel 0:06:36.089 --> 0:06:37.150 special event. 0:06:37.410 --> 0:06:39.789 So good. Watch it again. Watch it again. 0:06:40.630 --> 0:06:44.060 Is still out there apparently doing stuff. So he then 0:06:44.120 --> 0:06:49.110 sends his drones knowing that he. Hit Vision pretty bad 0:06:49.130 --> 0:06:53.380 with those adamantium rounds. It's like, he's got to be leaking. Drones, 0:06:54.480 --> 0:06:58.539 go look for any kind of blood trail, synthetic, you know, 0:06:58.620 --> 0:07:00.510 liquid trail so we can find this guy. 0:07:01.220 --> 0:07:04.950 Oh, also, I think, is this the moment? I think 0:07:04.990 --> 0:07:07.529 this is the moment where Kunk says to him, should 0:07:07.589 --> 0:07:11.730 we thank the Ten Rings organization for the adamantium shotgun shells? 0:07:12.290 --> 0:07:15.270 And I love that because Xialing, she's still out there, bro. 0:07:15.300 --> 0:07:18.200 She's doing it. She's busy. They haven't stopped her. They 0:07:18.240 --> 0:07:20.540 haven't retconned that. I love that moment. 0:07:20.820 --> 0:07:23.140 I just like how, I love absolutely, I mean, this 0:07:23.180 --> 0:07:27.580 is the first thing. It really is this show giving 0:07:27.640 --> 0:07:31.100 me a whiff of what it felt like when I 0:07:31.210 --> 0:07:35.000 first started reading comics, both Marvel and like, and to 0:07:35.020 --> 0:07:38.920 a lesser extent, DC comics. And you get the main 0:07:38.980 --> 0:07:42.400 character in a book mentioning something that happened in another 0:07:42.580 --> 0:07:46.500 issue or mentioned something or some other event or some 0:07:46.560 --> 0:07:48.760 other team or some other thing. And it's just fun. 0:07:49.740 --> 0:07:54.340 Back in the car, Thomas is one, you know, Vision 0:07:54.400 --> 0:07:59.300 is rebooted and Thomas wants to talk about who he is, 0:07:59.340 --> 0:08:01.750 their relationship. Why do I have these memories about you? 0:08:02.910 --> 0:08:05.410 Vision is like, just keep driving kid. 0:08:05.490 --> 0:08:05.810 Okay. 0:08:05.870 --> 0:08:08.930 Like we, we've, we've got a bounty hunter with adamantium 0:08:08.970 --> 0:08:14.420 shotgun shells on our trail. Keep moving. But also aside 0:08:14.440 --> 0:08:19.140 from the danger being put in this more human relationship, 0:08:19.200 --> 0:08:23.000 emotional mode is clearly making him very, very uncomfortable. 0:08:23.020 --> 0:08:23.120 Yeah. 0:08:23.680 --> 0:08:25.100 He does not know what to do. 0:08:25.140 --> 0:08:27.280 Does not know what to do, which is a real 0:08:27.480 --> 0:08:30.619 theme of this. I love the idea. You know, Bettany 0:08:30.680 --> 0:08:31.320 is wonderful. 0:08:31.880 --> 0:08:32.260 And at a. 0:08:32.320 --> 0:08:39.300 Certain point, you begin to realize that at first it's like, oh, 0:08:39.320 --> 0:08:41.680 Vision doesn't have emotions. And then it's like, wait, Vision 0:08:42.100 --> 0:08:44.860 has them. He just doesn't know how to deal with them. 0:08:44.880 --> 0:08:46.000 How to process them. Yeah. 0:08:46.040 --> 0:08:47.660 Yeah, and that's where we are now. 0:08:48.160 --> 0:08:51.670 Exactly. That makes such a good point, Jason. And also, 0:08:51.690 --> 0:08:56.300 I think, This whole episode is about how his relationship 0:08:56.700 --> 0:09:00.980 with Tommy, both as we will see through crazy superpower 0:09:01.000 --> 0:09:05.900 stuff and also through actual emotional moments like this, he 0:09:06.020 --> 0:09:10.510 is gaining that personhood that he wanted, that old Vision had, 0:09:10.550 --> 0:09:12.530 and it's his own version of it, but he is 0:09:12.570 --> 0:09:14.370 gaining it throughout this episode. 0:09:15.090 --> 0:09:17.630 Natami is insistent. He's like, why do I have memories 0:09:17.710 --> 0:09:20.189 of you as my dad? And why do I see 0:09:20.210 --> 0:09:25.350 you that way? And, you know, who is Wanda to 0:09:25.530 --> 0:09:28.290 me and you and us? And Vision is like, listen, 0:09:28.350 --> 0:09:34.079 I'm not your father. All of this is actually Wanda's fault. Meanwhile, 0:09:34.440 --> 0:09:38.280 the AIs, because of the damage to his insides and 0:09:38.300 --> 0:09:40.460 also the memory palace, the AIs are just like popping 0:09:40.540 --> 0:09:43.980 out into the real world on occasion. Yeah. So Edith 0:09:44.040 --> 0:09:49.930 is warning him about the drones. Meanwhile, Thomas is like, 0:09:50.429 --> 0:09:54.090 I'm not going one step further in this car until 0:09:54.190 --> 0:09:58.720 you help me understand who we are, what our relationship is, 0:09:58.800 --> 0:10:03.420 what we mean to each other. The other AIs pop 0:10:03.500 --> 0:10:06.530 up into the car and they're all coaching Viz on 0:10:06.570 --> 0:10:09.110 like how to be more human and relate to Tommy 0:10:09.150 --> 0:10:12.480 so they can overcome this obstacle. And then finally he 0:10:12.540 --> 0:10:16.540 does get Tommy to start driving, to pull away. And 0:10:16.559 --> 0:10:19.440 in a very dad-like moment, he also uses turn signals 0:10:19.520 --> 0:10:20.860 and signaling. 0:10:20.880 --> 0:10:23.800 The first thing he tries to connect with him on 0:10:23.840 --> 0:10:26.140 is he's like, I noticed you don't use your indicators. 0:10:26.210 --> 0:10:29.209 And Tommy's like, are you my dad? Was my mom 0:10:29.230 --> 0:10:32.990 a witch? Like, what the fuck is wrong with you? Yeah, 0:10:33.290 --> 0:10:38.869 really cute stuff. Rudy and Paul are so good together. Absolutely. 0:10:39.110 --> 0:10:42.030 They arrive at a motorway hotel. 0:10:42.620 --> 0:10:46.380 Yeah, like a very busted kind of Holiday Inn vibe, 0:10:46.580 --> 0:10:48.320 like fritzy LED lights. 0:10:48.780 --> 0:10:49.179 Yes. 0:10:49.679 --> 0:10:52.100 And we realize the fritzy LED lights and the electricity 0:10:52.140 --> 0:10:56.179 is probably because Viz's electromagnetic field, the fact that he 0:10:56.220 --> 0:11:01.670 took so much damage. and is fritzing out is causing 0:11:02.010 --> 0:11:05.610 the electronics around him to fluctuate. Now they don't have 0:11:05.670 --> 0:11:09.449 any money, but luckily this kind of like pulsing of 0:11:09.530 --> 0:11:13.400 electromagnetic energy from vision causes the ATM to spit out money. 0:11:13.480 --> 0:11:13.680 Yeah. 0:11:13.880 --> 0:11:17.619 So Tommy's like, and it kicks the ATM and the 0:11:17.700 --> 0:11:20.760 fricking vending machine. And Tommy's like, great. It was meant 0:11:20.820 --> 0:11:21.199 to be. 0:11:22.080 --> 0:11:25.390 So Tommy's like, okay, you collect that money. I will go. 0:11:26.260 --> 0:11:29.260 delay the night manager who is outside like watching footy 0:11:29.300 --> 0:11:32.040 or something in the parking lot. And I will delay 0:11:32.100 --> 0:11:35.000 him until you, and then we'll use this money to pay. Meanwhile, 0:11:35.120 --> 0:11:37.920 as Tommy goes out there, he walks past the pool 0:11:37.960 --> 0:11:42.500 and begins having flashes of like traumatic memories. And we'll 0:11:42.540 --> 0:11:46.570 find out more about these later. Meanwhile, the paladin is 0:11:46.640 --> 0:11:48.370 really in a lot of trouble with the client who 0:11:48.429 --> 0:11:54.650 is fucking pissed, continuing to be very, very pissed. Um, 0:11:55.740 --> 0:11:59.589 The client who we will talk about who it could be. 0:12:00.070 --> 0:12:02.310 They want us to think at this point, I think 0:12:02.370 --> 0:12:03.790 that it's the butcher bird killer. 0:12:04.110 --> 0:12:06.130 I believe that that's what they want us to think. 0:12:06.170 --> 0:12:06.850 And it might be. 0:12:07.080 --> 0:12:09.740 And it could be. But as you will see, that's 0:12:09.820 --> 0:12:12.580 actually someone we theorized about last week. You will hear 0:12:12.620 --> 0:12:15.340 us talk about in this. So, yeah, it's very interesting. 0:12:15.880 --> 0:12:18.960 So there's I think we will see there are quite 0:12:19.000 --> 0:12:20.260 a few suspects for this. 0:12:20.300 --> 0:12:22.610 Definitely. And the discord threw in one that I thought 0:12:22.630 --> 0:12:24.910 was crazy that we'll talk about afterwards. Oh, I can't 0:12:24.929 --> 0:12:25.230 wait to. 0:12:25.170 --> 0:12:28.830 Talk about that. OK, so the client is like, listen, 0:12:30.670 --> 0:12:33.000 you have to the end of the night to find 0:12:33.300 --> 0:12:38.900 vision intact and deliver him. As this conversation is ending, 0:12:38.920 --> 0:12:41.940 the paladin has like a memory flash of something very traumatic. 0:12:42.800 --> 0:12:45.420 the paladin as a child is sitting in a car 0:12:45.500 --> 0:12:50.560 with an older adult, perhaps father figure, and that person 0:12:50.620 --> 0:12:54.200 is murdered, or at least you see a breaking of glass. 0:12:53.840 --> 0:12:56.360 And a splash of blood. Yeah. 0:12:57.080 --> 0:12:59.979 Kunk then says, okay, we have the coordinates for the 0:13:00.640 --> 0:13:05.380 vision damage trail. Meanwhile, in the memory palace, there's a 0:13:05.420 --> 0:13:08.120 new problem. There's like something called a boot loop, which 0:13:08.200 --> 0:13:12.220 is causing heat to build up inside the vision. The 0:13:12.300 --> 0:13:13.900 AIs are really struggling with how to deal with this. 0:13:13.990 --> 0:13:17.550 Friday tells Edith that, hold on, maybe I can rewrite 0:13:18.330 --> 0:13:22.189 vision's core code so that it won't solve the problem, 0:13:22.210 --> 0:13:24.330 but maybe we can dissipate some of the heat and 0:13:24.429 --> 0:13:27.690 slow down the accumulation of heat. She then begins to 0:13:27.770 --> 0:13:31.930 reminisce about how once upon a time she used to 0:13:31.990 --> 0:13:37.040 run all of Tony Stark systems, including versions of the 0:13:37.140 --> 0:13:41.840 AIs currently in the memory palace. And then came, of course, 0:13:41.880 --> 0:13:44.420 the superhero civil war, which we find out that Friday 0:13:44.480 --> 0:13:47.960 found very traumatic. The fact that the superheroes became enemies. 0:13:48.400 --> 0:13:48.640 Yeah. 0:13:48.660 --> 0:13:50.550 And they were all torn apart like this. And I, 0:13:50.900 --> 0:13:55.920 and I think this is also a reflection of how 0:13:57.520 --> 0:14:01.080 heartbroken Tony was during this period. I think Friday is 0:14:01.160 --> 0:14:05.140 reflecting that she knows how hurt, You know, like, Tony 0:14:05.200 --> 0:14:08.540 and Cap had a very complex relationship. But Tony, in 0:14:08.580 --> 0:14:10.080 a lot of ways, despite the fact that they were 0:14:10.120 --> 0:14:12.260 often at loggerheads, I think really looked up to Cap 0:14:12.300 --> 0:14:16.470 and wanted his acceptance. And the fact that he couldn't 0:14:16.510 --> 0:14:18.270 get it and this whole thing tore them apart, I think, 0:14:18.309 --> 0:14:20.870 was very painful to him. So Friday's reflecting that. And then, 0:14:20.910 --> 0:14:25.650 of course, came Infinity War and Endgame and Thanos and 0:14:25.690 --> 0:14:28.530 Tony dying. And Friday, of course, was right there. Right 0:14:28.590 --> 0:14:29.930 there when Tony died. 0:14:29.710 --> 0:14:32.170 And nothing she could do could save him. Great moment. 0:14:32.730 --> 0:14:33.470 I also want to say. 0:14:34.300 --> 0:14:37.320 Very sad, very good. This is very much what we 0:14:37.360 --> 0:14:39.820 wanted here, where they're kind of expanding on what we 0:14:39.860 --> 0:14:42.900 already know, building the law. I do want to say, 0:14:43.220 --> 0:14:46.860 crazy doomsday theory did pop into my head during this moment. 0:14:47.260 --> 0:14:53.670 Which is just, Friday says she ran a quantillion different 0:14:54.490 --> 0:14:56.670 versions of how to save him and she couldn't do 0:14:56.710 --> 0:14:59.710 it and it still haunts her, right? So, does that 0:14:59.770 --> 0:15:03.870 mean in another universe there is a version of Friday 0:15:03.910 --> 0:15:06.250 that would help a doctor do who looked like Tony. 0:15:06.830 --> 0:15:09.700 Because she wants... Tony back or she feels like she 0:15:09.740 --> 0:15:12.620 couldn't save him. I felt like that was very interesting. 0:15:12.660 --> 0:15:13.710 Wow, that's interesting. 0:15:14.230 --> 0:15:17.310 I think it could just be an empathetic humanizing moment 0:15:17.430 --> 0:15:19.690 for the AI to be like, hey, remember, she was 0:15:19.810 --> 0:15:21.990 in his head. This is the person who cared about him. 0:15:22.350 --> 0:15:26.270 But I do think with Doomsday coming up, the way 0:15:26.310 --> 0:15:28.610 they hung on her face and she said, it still 0:15:28.670 --> 0:15:30.710 haunts me. I was like, okay, babe, that seems like 0:15:30.750 --> 0:15:32.810 that could be something someone could exploit. 0:15:32.830 --> 0:15:35.570 I gotta say, you know, that is fascinating because the 0:15:35.730 --> 0:15:39.030 idea that You know, Tony has trillions of billions of 0:15:39.050 --> 0:15:42.760 dollars of advanced suits and weaponry just kind of laying around. 0:15:43.160 --> 0:15:45.060 We never got armor wars. Right. So that stuff's just 0:15:45.160 --> 0:15:50.000 out there. And what if Doom is able to, like, 0:15:50.100 --> 0:15:53.200 grab that stuff because of that's very interesting. I really 0:15:53.280 --> 0:15:54.140 love that idea. 0:15:54.440 --> 0:15:56.460 Something intriguing to consider. 0:15:56.920 --> 0:15:59.660 So we go to the hotel room. Thomas is watching 0:15:59.780 --> 0:16:04.690 Small Wonder, which is a 80s, 90s sitcom about a 0:16:04.910 --> 0:16:07.980 robot girl. in a household. 0:16:08.600 --> 0:16:11.200 And when she puts her fingers together, she can freeze time. 0:16:11.680 --> 0:16:12.990 It's very strange. 0:16:13.230 --> 0:16:17.410 I was obsessed with this show, and it was a 0:16:17.450 --> 0:16:22.190 big part of the WandaVision kind of conversation. So, yeah, 0:16:22.290 --> 0:16:23.650 it makes a lot of sense to see it here. 0:16:24.030 --> 0:16:27.950 And Thomas finds it comforting, clearly, which kind. 0:16:27.850 --> 0:16:30.270 Of hints again to us. Like mother, like son. Yes. 0:16:30.830 --> 0:16:36.720 So Edith is trying to prod Vision into... Asking Thomas, 0:16:36.780 --> 0:16:39.740 if he's okay, you know, this is what a human connection, you. 0:16:39.660 --> 0:16:40.250 Can build it right now. 0:16:40.260 --> 0:16:46.990 That's what we do. Um, Viz is like, okay, um, 0:16:48.430 --> 0:16:52.530 let me try this and starts talking to Thomas and, uh, 0:16:52.870 --> 0:16:55.030 but Thomas is being like a really tough nut to 0:16:55.070 --> 0:16:57.250 crack in this moment. I think really kind of upset 0:16:57.290 --> 0:17:01.100 that vision kind of rejected his overtures to, to like 0:17:01.240 --> 0:17:04.080 share in the car. And he says, you know, well, 0:17:04.100 --> 0:17:06.080 you're not you don't say anything about yourself. So why 0:17:06.100 --> 0:17:08.940 should I say anything about me? So Vision is trying 0:17:09.000 --> 0:17:14.750 awkwardly to like talk. And Thomas talks about, you know, 0:17:14.770 --> 0:17:17.050 I love old TV. I love the old TV shows. 0:17:17.090 --> 0:17:20.110 I find it soothing. Vision is like, you know, Wanda 0:17:20.150 --> 0:17:23.419 loved TV as well. And Thomas is like, yeah, I 0:17:23.460 --> 0:17:26.020 know I read about that in a magazine or something. 0:17:26.220 --> 0:17:28.520 No, he says in a book about the book. So 0:17:28.680 --> 0:17:30.220 I want to know about that book. 0:17:30.240 --> 0:17:30.880 Who wrote that? 0:17:30.920 --> 0:17:32.219 Yeah, who wrote the book? 0:17:32.300 --> 0:17:33.940 Is that the Am Am book? 0:17:34.820 --> 0:17:36.379 Like, is it his book? 0:17:36.619 --> 0:17:39.240 Is it a different book? I love this in-universe books. 0:17:39.440 --> 0:17:41.920 We also get some other funny references to the blip here. 0:17:41.940 --> 0:17:44.619 There's like a conspiracy that the blip didn't happen, clearly. 0:17:44.980 --> 0:17:46.940 We get a nod to here. So it's very fun. 0:17:48.200 --> 0:17:52.000 So he's like, I read about that. I read about... 0:17:52.320 --> 0:17:56.359 how you guys were in love, but then you died. 0:17:57.000 --> 0:18:00.700 And that really is, turns on, you could see Thomas 0:18:00.740 --> 0:18:02.810 turning that in his mind and he, and he looks 0:18:02.869 --> 0:18:05.080 at vision and he kind of all, everything comes something out. 0:18:05.090 --> 0:18:07.330 It's like, how can any of this be happening? How 0:18:07.369 --> 0:18:09.590 can the memories I have be real? How can I 0:18:09.630 --> 0:18:12.430 have memories of us as a family together, but also 0:18:12.510 --> 0:18:16.080 like know that that didn't happen and you, you're dead, 0:18:16.160 --> 0:18:19.000 but you're here. How is any of this happening? So 0:18:19.020 --> 0:18:23.990 then vision talks about Wanda and, her theory of grief, 0:18:25.050 --> 0:18:29.050 love persevering and talks about what happened at Westview. Basically 0:18:29.090 --> 0:18:32.890 the whole thing, the hex, uh, creating the family, Billy 0:18:32.930 --> 0:18:37.109 and Tommy creating the version of himself. And he then 0:18:37.210 --> 0:18:39.429 tells Tommy very harshly. Yeah. 0:18:39.650 --> 0:18:42.500 Honestly, I was so glad that Ultron shows up right 0:18:42.580 --> 0:18:44.840 off because he was my in character in that movie. 0:18:45.060 --> 0:18:49.379 Very harsh is like, listen, you're just kind of delusional 0:18:49.420 --> 0:18:52.560 about this. This is a delusion. you know, based on 0:18:52.600 --> 0:18:55.659 trauma or something. You're inventing a backstory based off of 0:18:55.740 --> 0:18:59.540 this blip book you read. And it's just not, that's 0:18:59.600 --> 0:19:03.740 not real. Ultron pops in and is like, you're such 0:19:03.780 --> 0:19:04.920 a fucking wanker, man. 0:19:04.960 --> 0:19:05.530 You blew it. 0:19:05.580 --> 0:19:08.459 You could have connected with your son and you ruined it. 0:19:08.500 --> 0:19:12.460 And why are you fucking doing this? Like you idiot. 0:19:12.680 --> 0:19:15.250 And Vision's like, you know, you're just fucking callous. And 0:19:15.350 --> 0:19:17.270 Ultron points out that that's what you just did. You 0:19:17.310 --> 0:19:20.230 were just like totally cold to this kid who thinks 0:19:20.270 --> 0:19:26.320 you're evil. his father. And then we realized to, to relief, honestly, 0:19:26.359 --> 0:19:29.180 from me, that this is one of those simulations that 0:19:29.580 --> 0:19:33.420 vision is running another quantillion simulations about ways to connect 0:19:33.440 --> 0:19:35.340 with time. He doesn't know how to do it. So 0:19:35.380 --> 0:19:37.230 he's just trying to figure out how to do it. 0:19:37.640 --> 0:19:40.330 And we see him running different ones with different approaches 0:19:40.369 --> 0:19:42.650 where he says different things to Tommy and tries different 0:19:42.670 --> 0:19:46.669 ways in. And each time Tommy storms off and leaves 0:19:46.770 --> 0:19:50.720 and none of it is working. And in reality, real life, 0:19:50.880 --> 0:19:53.880 Vision tells Tommy that, you know, now we see like 0:19:53.920 --> 0:19:56.750 what he actually says. And he's like, Let's talk about 0:19:56.790 --> 0:19:58.670 all this after we get some sleep. What about that? 0:19:59.050 --> 0:20:02.950 We both need some rest, and it's not going to 0:20:02.970 --> 0:20:06.450 get us anywhere tonight. Tommy Storm's out anyway. And Ultron 0:20:06.650 --> 0:20:08.409 pops in and is like, want to run a porno? 0:20:09.840 --> 0:20:13.560 Dude, James Spader, obviously no surprise. I'm a huge James 0:20:13.580 --> 0:20:16.320 Spader fan. But true MVP performance. 0:20:16.380 --> 0:20:16.739 He's so good. 0:20:16.760 --> 0:20:19.820 He's such a delight in this. And they are really 0:20:19.920 --> 0:20:20.580 digging in to. 0:20:22.190 --> 0:20:26.590 These thematic connections to do with the question of who 0:20:26.650 --> 0:20:28.929 we are. What does it mean to be human? What 0:20:28.970 --> 0:20:30.860 does it mean to have a family? I have to say, 0:20:30.910 --> 0:20:33.330 I saw a review in Rolling Stone that was kind of, 0:20:33.340 --> 0:20:35.280 I think, a series review. And they said only a 0:20:35.320 --> 0:20:37.580 bot could love this show. And I thought, you know what? 0:20:37.619 --> 0:20:40.900 You just must not be the audience. Because to me, 0:20:40.960 --> 0:20:44.960 there is something so prescient right now and real about 0:20:45.020 --> 0:20:48.340 not only the notion of AI and personhood, but also 0:20:48.720 --> 0:20:52.860 as a millennial, as someone who's lived through multiple unprecedented 0:20:53.100 --> 0:20:57.660 events throughout my life, like Jason, our jobs talking about 0:20:57.700 --> 0:21:01.689 like comic books, right? Like our expected ways of living 0:21:01.810 --> 0:21:05.110 or growing up aren't necessarily what happened, right? There's always 0:21:05.150 --> 0:21:06.909 this question of like, who are you? What are you 0:21:06.950 --> 0:21:09.290 doing as an artist? Are you a musician? Are you 0:21:09.310 --> 0:21:14.250 making something? That is also represented here in this kind 0:21:14.290 --> 0:21:17.950 of quest for everyone to find themselves, not just the AI, 0:21:17.970 --> 0:21:21.340 but also Tommy, also other characters that we will meet 0:21:21.390 --> 0:21:25.199 in this episode. It's so fucking well done. It is 0:21:25.260 --> 0:21:26.120 hitting for me. 0:21:26.720 --> 0:21:29.140 I hope people like it. I did see another negative 0:21:29.160 --> 0:21:34.880 review that was something like, Vision Quest is a product 0:21:34.920 --> 0:21:37.000 of a bygone era. And I'm like, what? I don't know, 0:21:37.080 --> 0:21:39.700 I think it's great. Anyway, I think it's great. We 0:21:39.740 --> 0:21:40.300 think it's great. 0:21:40.359 --> 0:21:41.159 We're loving it. 0:21:41.480 --> 0:21:41.899 We're loving it. 0:21:41.900 --> 0:21:43.919