1 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:07,080 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio News. 2 00:00:07,400 --> 00:00:11,040 Speaker 2: I wanted to start by talking about the Massachusetts economy. 3 00:00:11,480 --> 00:00:13,320 Speaker 3: Your state has been uniquely. 4 00:00:12,920 --> 00:00:15,000 Speaker 2: Impacted by the federal funding cuts. 5 00:00:15,480 --> 00:00:17,239 Speaker 3: What's the biggest impact you've seen so far. 6 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:19,560 Speaker 1: Well, first of all, it's great to see you, great 7 00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:24,919 Speaker 1: to be here among friends and also those online. Look 8 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:27,880 Speaker 1: you know, in some ways, Massachusetts is no different than 9 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:28,600 Speaker 1: any other. 10 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:29,160 Speaker 3: State right now. 11 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:32,760 Speaker 1: I mean the cuts that we've seen to healthcare, to infrastructure, 12 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:37,760 Speaker 1: transportation funds have been cut to our state food, We 13 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:42,200 Speaker 1: could go on. Unfortunately, the Trump administration has made cuts 14 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:44,800 Speaker 1: that are impacting so many states. But I think that 15 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:48,240 Speaker 1: for us in particular, we are a knowledge based economy. 16 00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:51,199 Speaker 1: We are a state that has grown over the last 17 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:56,440 Speaker 1: two hundred and fifty years through investments in education, research, knowledge, 18 00:00:56,520 --> 00:01:00,400 Speaker 1: and it's given rise to this incredible growth, for example 19 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 1: and life sciences. 20 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:04,560 Speaker 3: Where we lead the world. And so when you think. 21 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:10,160 Speaker 1: About cuts to NIH funding, NSF funding, Noah, cuts to 22 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:15,120 Speaker 1: colleges and universities, that does have a disproportionate effect on Massachusetts. 23 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:18,360 Speaker 1: And it's not just here's the important thing, it's not 24 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:23,360 Speaker 1: just jobs in those areas, in research, in science, in 25 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:26,480 Speaker 1: life sciences, for example, it's all the other jobs that 26 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 1: go with it, because two out of every five jobs 27 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 1: in those areas are actually jobs in construction, in real estate, 28 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:39,200 Speaker 1: in legal IP operations, in hospitality, in restaurants, and so 29 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 1: you know, that's why those cuts are particularly devastating to 30 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 1: a state like Massachusetts. But you know, we could talk 31 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 1: about what I'm doing, yeah, to combat that, but that. 32 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:50,040 Speaker 3: Is certainly something that we're seeing. 33 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 1: The other thing that's been hard for us is that 34 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 1: we're a state where as governor, I am very focused 35 00:01:56,080 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 1: on lowering costs for residents for businesses that include energy costs. 36 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 1: One thing we don't need is energy supply to our 37 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 1: region cut off. And unfortunately, that's what we're seeing by 38 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:12,639 Speaker 1: the Trump administration's move to kill jobs and to literally 39 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:16,720 Speaker 1: take away power by dismantling wind operations on the East Coast. 40 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:20,080 Speaker 2: Yes, and we're gonna absolutely get it to get to wind, 41 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 2: but before we get there, I just did want to 42 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 2: talk about what you've been doing to combat the threat 43 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 2: that these funding costs. 44 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:28,480 Speaker 3: Pose to the state. 45 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 2: You've proposed using four hundred million dollars in state funding 46 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 2: to help combat that. 47 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:34,799 Speaker 3: How far does that go? 48 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:38,960 Speaker 1: Well, here's the thing Okay, I think this is a 49 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:43,519 Speaker 1: good investment even without what is happening by the Trump administration, 50 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:46,200 Speaker 1: but especially because of the cuts that we're seeing. You know, 51 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 1: I want to be clear as governor of this great 52 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 1: state of Massachusetts, we're open to the world for business. 53 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:54,360 Speaker 1: We want to continue to be the place that attracts 54 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 1: students and researchers from around the country, from around the world. 55 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:00,320 Speaker 3: We want to attract. 56 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:05,840 Speaker 1: Entrepreneurs and innovators as we have for so many decades. 57 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:07,360 Speaker 3: And you know, part. 58 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 1: Of my statement and coming forward with DRIVE, which stands 59 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 1: for discovery, Research. 60 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:14,960 Speaker 3: Innovation for a vibrant economy. 61 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:17,919 Speaker 1: The whole point is to say we're making these investments 62 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:21,119 Speaker 1: because we know the ROI. We've seen it in life 63 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 1: sciences and that's why we're not just number one in 64 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:24,320 Speaker 1: the country. 65 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:26,520 Speaker 3: We are the global hub for life sciences. 66 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 1: And when you think about climate technology or applied AI 67 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:31,640 Speaker 1: or even you know, further work that we can do 68 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 1: in life sciences, these are the kinds of investments. 69 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 3: That we need to make. 70 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:39,080 Speaker 1: So that's four hundred million dollars in state funding that 71 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 1: we hope to leverage with additional funding from you know, 72 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:46,640 Speaker 1: I'm a big believer I'm a time flavor player and 73 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 1: public private partnership, you know, that's what we are embracing 74 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 1: more than ever. So obviously, we have a venture community, 75 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 1: we have a life sciences community, we have an academic community, 76 00:03:57,960 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 1: we have an investment community. People know and understand what 77 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:05,560 Speaker 1: it means to make an investment and see a great return, 78 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 1: and so we're hoping to be able to leverage that 79 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 1: and really be a model. I don't know of a 80 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 1: state that's doing this, but it's that important, by the way, 81 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:17,479 Speaker 1: not just to Massachusetts, it's important to this country because 82 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:21,000 Speaker 1: the only one who's winning right now is China. China's 83 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 1: on our campuses in Massachusetts and around the United States, 84 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:29,880 Speaker 1: at our research institutions, at our teaching hospitals, looking to 85 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:32,840 Speaker 1: recruit everyone away. You've seen that, You've covered that, and 86 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:35,280 Speaker 1: that's the shame of it all, you know. I am 87 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:38,560 Speaker 1: about America first. I'm a very competitive person. I want 88 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 1: Massachusetts soaring and I want America soaring. And one thing 89 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:46,000 Speaker 1: we shouldn't be doing is not investing in science and 90 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:50,919 Speaker 1: research and innovation and seeing that essentially to China and 91 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:51,560 Speaker 1: other countries. 92 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:53,479 Speaker 2: Yes, just to go a little bit deeper into that 93 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:56,919 Speaker 2: public private initiative that you've proposed. Can you give us 94 00:04:56,960 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 2: a window into how much interest have you received in 95 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:04,160 Speaker 2: actually putting money into this and why should individuals or 96 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 2: businesses put money in a state administered fund. 97 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 1: Well, look, I'm the CEO of the state, and my 98 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:13,039 Speaker 1: job is to be the best economic steward that I 99 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 1: can be for this state. And that means making sure 100 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 1: that we are maximizing the return on taxpayer dollar. It 101 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:23,040 Speaker 1: also means making sure that I am working inside and 102 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 1: outside of government to provide the best economic infrastructure that 103 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 1: I can. It's why I've gone big investing in education 104 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 1: in this state and including a whole pipeline KTA twelve 105 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:38,160 Speaker 1: and beyond. It's also why I think there's a recognition 106 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:42,160 Speaker 1: by folks in the private sector that it is our 107 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:46,040 Speaker 1: economic infrastructure at stake, and that's why we all need 108 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:48,839 Speaker 1: to come together and figure out a way to power 109 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:53,160 Speaker 1: through this time. I think through new and innovative partnerships 110 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:56,360 Speaker 1: that not only will sustain us through this time, but 111 00:05:56,440 --> 00:05:59,919 Speaker 1: really put in Massachusetts where it should be, which is 112 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:03,719 Speaker 1: right at the front nationally globally when it comes to 113 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:08,000 Speaker 1: attracting talent. Again, my message to the world is Massachusetts 114 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:09,039 Speaker 1: were open for business. 115 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:10,960 Speaker 3: We want you to continue to come. 116 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:15,600 Speaker 1: Here, study here, research here, innovate here, incubate here. 117 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:17,240 Speaker 3: And grow your companies here. 118 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:20,280 Speaker 1: And we have provided and have sought to provide an 119 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:24,840 Speaker 1: environment that's conducive to that by providing a pipeline or 120 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 1: workforce were the most educated workforce in the country, by 121 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:31,719 Speaker 1: making major improvements to a public transit system, which is 122 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:36,239 Speaker 1: important to producing more housings so that employees can actually 123 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:39,280 Speaker 1: afford to live in a place like Massachusetts. These are 124 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:41,279 Speaker 1: things that I think are very important to the private 125 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:45,839 Speaker 1: sector and why we've seen energy and synergy around this 126 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 1: kind of collaboration. 127 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:48,719 Speaker 2: Do you have a death that I know, Do you 128 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 2: have a dollar or figure in mind that you'd like 129 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 2: to read for that or how are you thinking about 130 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:55,159 Speaker 2: its potential thithe and impact. 131 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 1: Well, these are big numbers, right, but you know, if 132 00:06:57,560 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 1: you think about Massachusetts alone, we probably have received per capita, 133 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:04,800 Speaker 1: the largest amount of NIH funding over the years. It's 134 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 1: about three point three billions. So we're talking about big numbers. 135 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 1: And it's not to say that we'll be able to 136 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 1: sort of make up for all of that, but I 137 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 1: think that if we can smartly and nimbly come together 138 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 1: and make the right investments. Together the public sector and 139 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 1: the private sector, we'll be able to do something very special. 140 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:26,200 Speaker 2: So I want to I said I'd come back to wind, 141 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:31,480 Speaker 2: which you brought up the Trump campaign, their campaign against wind. 142 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 2: There was additional developments today with the proposal to stop 143 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:41,760 Speaker 2: the development of projects in your state. This past week, 144 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:45,680 Speaker 2: you joined other Democratic governors in a joint statement calling 145 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 2: for the administration to allow permitted offer wind projects to proceed. 146 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 2: What was the reaction to that statement after you put 147 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:54,000 Speaker 2: it up. 148 00:07:54,760 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 1: Well, I guess we're sort of waiting to see, but 149 00:07:57,560 --> 00:08:00,520 Speaker 1: you know, all of us are in the strongest possible 150 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 1: terms urging the Trump administration to stop with this, to 151 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 1: stop with the stop work orders, to stop killing jobs, 152 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:13,680 Speaker 1: to stop cutting off power. I mean literally, when we 153 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 1: were hearing word that there might be a stop work 154 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 1: order down the entire East Coast, that was incredibly concerning 155 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:25,440 Speaker 1: for all of US governors. For me, I had the 156 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 1: concern not only was it going to kill thousands and 157 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:32,440 Speaker 1: thousands of jobs, it was also going to literally shut 158 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:36,480 Speaker 1: off power to two hundred thousand homes in businesses because 159 00:08:36,559 --> 00:08:41,120 Speaker 1: our wind project is already producing power into the grid, 160 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 1: and so that just doesn't make any sense. And you know, 161 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:47,600 Speaker 1: I am somebody I've been very public about this. I 162 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:50,080 Speaker 1: support an all of the above approach when it comes 163 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:51,400 Speaker 1: to energy to. 164 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:52,360 Speaker 3: Do what we need to do. 165 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:55,080 Speaker 1: And as somebody who's spent one hundred million dollars to 166 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:58,400 Speaker 1: create an applied AI hub here in Massachusetts, when you 167 00:08:58,440 --> 00:09:02,560 Speaker 1: think about what our energy needs are as a country, 168 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:07,199 Speaker 1: they're just expanding exponentially. It's why we need nuclear and 169 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 1: solar and hydro and wind and gas. So don't take 170 00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:15,280 Speaker 1: wind off the table. We desperately need it. And that's 171 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:18,240 Speaker 1: why you saw so many governors come together. Not only 172 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 1: is it a matter of jobs, because you know, we're 173 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:24,360 Speaker 1: talking about so many jobs, so many construction jobs, so 174 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:28,160 Speaker 1: many union jobs. There's been a lot of investment in 175 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:31,600 Speaker 1: this workforce actually to the tune of hundreds of millions 176 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 1: of dollars. Don't let that go to waste, and most importantly, 177 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:38,440 Speaker 1: don't shut off power into a region that needs it. 178 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 1: The other thing, of course, is this more power, more supply, 179 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:45,679 Speaker 1: lower costs. Everybody across America is dealing with the high 180 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 1: cost to energy. 181 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:48,560 Speaker 3: So what do you not want to do in the 182 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:49,120 Speaker 3: face of that? 183 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:52,240 Speaker 1: You don't want to shrink supply, right and so that's 184 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 1: why we continue to advocate for this most strongly. But 185 00:09:55,360 --> 00:09:57,720 Speaker 1: you know, you think about the companies at the top 186 00:09:57,720 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 1: of the index right and you think about you know 187 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 1: that the needs of tech right now, and in particular, 188 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:06,520 Speaker 1: I think about a state like ours, where we're looking 189 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 1: to do so much power through technology the energy supply 190 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:13,880 Speaker 1: as a country, there should be a concerted effort to 191 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:18,560 Speaker 1: get every state in the country working to work together. 192 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:21,600 Speaker 1: Some states may be better for guests, some states may 193 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:24,360 Speaker 1: be better for nuclear. Some states may be better situated 194 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:28,320 Speaker 1: for solar arraysed or hydro or geothermal. By the way, 195 00:10:28,400 --> 00:10:31,680 Speaker 1: I want to explore all in Massachusetts. But it seems 196 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:36,120 Speaker 1: to me leadership from the President and the administration would 197 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:39,480 Speaker 1: look like figuring out a plan to source more energy 198 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:42,640 Speaker 1: into this country, to build out the transmission line so 199 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 1: that power can actually flow, so that we have a 200 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:51,079 Speaker 1: reliable and truly independent source of energy for Americans. 201 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:55,120 Speaker 2: Earlier this year, Bloomberg reported that in New York, Governor 202 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 2: Hokal got the FEDS to lift a stop work order 203 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:02,400 Speaker 2: on the Empire Wind Project in exchange for dropping opposition 204 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:04,120 Speaker 2: to new gas pipelines. 205 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:04,600 Speaker 3: In the state. 206 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:08,559 Speaker 2: Do you think there's scope for a similar deal in Massachusetts? 207 00:11:08,920 --> 00:11:10,959 Speaker 1: Well, I think we've already talked about that. I mean 208 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 1: that's already that's already known, but that there's a willingness 209 00:11:15,120 --> 00:11:15,480 Speaker 1: to do that. 210 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:17,240 Speaker 3: But that's sort of, you know, not enough. 211 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:19,000 Speaker 1: I mean, what we really need to do is have 212 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:23,680 Speaker 1: a comprehensive, concerted strategy where the federal government is working 213 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 1: with states, not against states, in an effort to bring 214 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 1: more power on board. Right, That's what we should be doing, 215 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:34,679 Speaker 1: and that's what I just you know, really urged the 216 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:39,559 Speaker 1: Trump administration to get back to. It makes no sense 217 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:42,400 Speaker 1: wind is I don't understand where some of this is 218 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:42,960 Speaker 1: coming from. 219 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:45,080 Speaker 3: This antipathy towards wind. We see WIND. 220 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:47,960 Speaker 1: I mean, look at so many of the states out 221 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:51,680 Speaker 1: out west. I mean they've been long using WIN. We 222 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 1: need to continue to do that here and to harness 223 00:11:54,679 --> 00:11:57,280 Speaker 1: it here. It's a tremendous source for us, it's not 224 00:11:57,400 --> 00:12:00,400 Speaker 1: the only source, which is why you know, I'm going 225 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:03,720 Speaker 1: to continue to work in partnership with other governors. It's 226 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:06,559 Speaker 1: also wid months ago I invited all the premieres down 227 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:09,160 Speaker 1: from Canada, you know, and what can we work out 228 00:12:09,559 --> 00:12:14,120 Speaker 1: this region and the Eastern provinces in terms of sourcing 229 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 1: more energy into our regions. 230 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:17,760 Speaker 2: So, just to be clear, as part of your all 231 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:20,319 Speaker 2: of the above approach to energy, you would be supportive 232 00:12:20,360 --> 00:12:22,680 Speaker 2: of new gas pipelines in Massachusetts. 233 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:25,600 Speaker 1: I'd consider any proposals that come our way. In fact, 234 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:29,440 Speaker 1: ever Source, one of our utility companies, just filed a 235 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:33,520 Speaker 1: proposal for ten years that I personally support because we 236 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:40,400 Speaker 1: need we need some near term solves to the supply 237 00:12:40,559 --> 00:12:43,080 Speaker 1: issue that we have right now in the Northeast. And again, 238 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:45,480 Speaker 1: this is an issue that we see across America, but 239 00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:49,400 Speaker 1: I think it's particularly acute for the Northeast region of 240 00:12:49,400 --> 00:12:49,920 Speaker 1: the country. 241 00:12:50,280 --> 00:12:52,160 Speaker 2: So at the same time, the state does have some 242 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:55,320 Speaker 2: pretty ambitious goals in terms of cutting its emissions. Do 243 00:12:55,360 --> 00:12:58,720 Speaker 2: you have a plan B for renewable energy if Trump's 244 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:00,480 Speaker 2: opposition to wind doesn't really. 245 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:03,000 Speaker 1: Budge Look, I have been I think as governor I 246 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:05,600 Speaker 1: was the first governor to name a climate chief across 247 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:09,200 Speaker 1: our administration. I'm very mindful of that. It's why I 248 00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:12,000 Speaker 1: was invited by them Pope Francis to the Vatican to 249 00:13:12,080 --> 00:13:15,040 Speaker 1: talk about how we could work both through national and 250 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:18,959 Speaker 1: subnational relationships on addressing some of these issues. That said, 251 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:22,559 Speaker 1: I am acutely focused right now on the issue of costs, 252 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:27,360 Speaker 1: costs for our rate payers, our residents, our businesses, and 253 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:29,000 Speaker 1: how do you deal with that. You deal with that 254 00:13:29,040 --> 00:13:31,520 Speaker 1: by getting more supply into the region. And I think 255 00:13:31,559 --> 00:13:33,480 Speaker 1: the good news here is that there are a lot 256 00:13:33,559 --> 00:13:36,800 Speaker 1: of different ways to do that to accomplish that that 257 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:41,520 Speaker 1: also make use of a clean energy portfolio that is 258 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:43,760 Speaker 1: proven to work, and the prices are coming down on that. 259 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:45,800 Speaker 3: So don't take that off the table. 260 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:51,400 Speaker 1: I mean, there's a reason why China is building multiple. 261 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:52,080 Speaker 3: Wind farms right now. 262 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:54,760 Speaker 1: Right we already see them in Europe, for example, so 263 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 1: we know this is part of the solution. Other countries 264 00:13:57,280 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 1: are recognizing it. Don't take this, don't take this away again. 265 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:05,600 Speaker 1: If you care about American competitiveness, right and we want 266 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:07,320 Speaker 1: to have AI and we want to have these data 267 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:08,920 Speaker 1: centers and we want to see this kind of growth, 268 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:11,520 Speaker 1: You're not going to be able to do anything if 269 00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:16,800 Speaker 1: you take power away from from these sources. You know, 270 00:14:16,920 --> 00:14:19,680 Speaker 1: I think about Virginia. You know they've got that wind 271 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:22,320 Speaker 1: operation going with Dominion. They've got a lot of data 272 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:25,240 Speaker 1: centers that need to get powered. I don't know they 273 00:14:25,280 --> 00:14:27,840 Speaker 1: are not going to be able to be powered absent 274 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:31,720 Speaker 1: that wind source. So it's just an example, but I 275 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:33,840 Speaker 1: think it's the mentality that we need. It's all of 276 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 1: the above working together, states and the federal government working together. 277 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:41,320 Speaker 2: So we've talked about a few of the areas where 278 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:44,840 Speaker 2: the federal government is cutting spending. One area that is 279 00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:49,400 Speaker 2: getting more money is Trump's immigration enforcement agenda. Assuming that 280 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:53,440 Speaker 2: arrests and deportations pick up, what is your strategy for 281 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:53,960 Speaker 2: dealing with that. 282 00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 3: In the last few siths. 283 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:58,640 Speaker 1: You know, this is just another area where I shake 284 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:02,000 Speaker 1: my head. You know, the investments have been made there, 285 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:05,840 Speaker 1: but to what end. We just lost one point two 286 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:11,480 Speaker 1: million people from the employment rules because of those immigration tactics. Right, 287 00:15:11,640 --> 00:15:15,200 Speaker 1: one point two million immigrants are not working today who 288 00:15:15,240 --> 00:15:16,560 Speaker 1: were working six months ago. 289 00:15:16,640 --> 00:15:18,320 Speaker 3: How is that good for our economy? 290 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 1: And here's what I see, And remember, I was an 291 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:25,160 Speaker 1: attorney general. As a prosecutor, I put away drug cartels 292 00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:29,880 Speaker 1: and drug traffickers and human traffickers. I think I had 293 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:32,600 Speaker 1: my bona FIDE's there, okay, And I've said I was 294 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:36,840 Speaker 1: all in when it came to taking out violent. 295 00:15:36,520 --> 00:15:39,920 Speaker 3: Criminals from our streets, our communities. Right, I think. 296 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:42,880 Speaker 1: Every governor has said, well, help, but that's not what's happening. 297 00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:49,080 Speaker 1: It's construction workers and nannies and landscapers and health aides, right, 298 00:15:49,200 --> 00:15:52,800 Speaker 1: and people taking care of our kids. That's who's getting 299 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:57,960 Speaker 1: picked up. And it doesn't make any sense economically. It's heartbreaking, 300 00:15:58,920 --> 00:16:02,840 Speaker 1: you know, it's heartbreaking. I mean, we are better than that, America. 301 00:16:03,520 --> 00:16:05,880 Speaker 1: We're not a country that was about putting little Guatemalan 302 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:08,720 Speaker 1: kids on a plane and sending them all by their 303 00:16:08,760 --> 00:16:11,600 Speaker 1: lonesome to a foreign country. That's not who we are. 304 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:15,600 Speaker 1: So I just, yes, the money is unbelievable. I think 305 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 1: it's it doesn't do anything to further public safety. Again, 306 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:24,000 Speaker 1: if you focused on violent criminals, that's one thing, but 307 00:16:24,520 --> 00:16:26,240 Speaker 1: that's not what they're running through. 308 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:27,080 Speaker 3: Now they've run. 309 00:16:26,960 --> 00:16:29,880 Speaker 1: Through that, and so they're taking away people who are 310 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:33,280 Speaker 1: contributing to our economy, who are paying taxes, who are. 311 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:36,120 Speaker 3: Contributing to our community. The other thing is this, I 312 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:36,560 Speaker 3: think it. 313 00:16:36,680 --> 00:16:42,200 Speaker 1: Undermines local law enforcement, to be honest, because what local 314 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:45,760 Speaker 1: law enforcement and state law enforcement need, they need to 315 00:16:45,800 --> 00:16:49,640 Speaker 1: be funded, and instead the Trump administration has cut funding 316 00:16:49,920 --> 00:16:52,600 Speaker 1: for local and state law enforcement for the work that 317 00:16:52,640 --> 00:16:56,480 Speaker 1: we would do with victims of crime. Witnesses to crime, 318 00:16:56,800 --> 00:16:59,560 Speaker 1: for the kinds of support that we give to keep 319 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:03,200 Speaker 1: people out of the criminal justice system. Cuts to mental health, 320 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:06,960 Speaker 1: cuts to drug recovery and drug treatment programs by the 321 00:17:06,960 --> 00:17:10,359 Speaker 1: Trump administration do not make us more safe. 322 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:12,199 Speaker 3: That's where I'd like to see the money go. 323 00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:14,760 Speaker 2: What would you do if Trump sends the National Guard 324 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 2: into Massachusetts? 325 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:19,000 Speaker 3: I don't know why he would. I don't know why 326 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:19,440 Speaker 3: he would. 327 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:23,399 Speaker 1: I'm very proud of the Massachusetts National Guard. Did you 328 00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:26,800 Speaker 1: know that Massachusetts is the birthplace of the National Guard? 329 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:27,240 Speaker 3: I did not. 330 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:30,480 Speaker 1: Yes, We've been around since sixteen hundreds. The very first 331 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:34,119 Speaker 1: muster of the National Guard was in Salem, Massachusetts. Were 332 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:37,720 Speaker 1: also the birthplace of the Navy and the Coast Guard, 333 00:17:37,760 --> 00:17:40,400 Speaker 1: and we claim the Marines too, because George Washington sent 334 00:17:40,440 --> 00:17:44,679 Speaker 1: a crew off a couple hundred years ago. So I 335 00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:48,840 Speaker 1: really respect and value our military history here. I also 336 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:53,040 Speaker 1: respect and value our law enforcement work as well. And 337 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:58,080 Speaker 1: to put the Guard on the streets in a way 338 00:17:58,160 --> 00:18:00,919 Speaker 1: they were never intended to be used, which was domestically 339 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:04,000 Speaker 1: against our own citizens. That's not what the Guard is 340 00:18:05,119 --> 00:18:07,119 Speaker 1: supposed to be doing. That is not the mission, Nor 341 00:18:07,160 --> 00:18:10,080 Speaker 1: do I think it is the mission that the good 342 00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:12,560 Speaker 1: men and women of the Guard signed up for you know, 343 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:16,200 Speaker 1: they signed up to be citizen shouldiers, to be prepared 344 00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:19,960 Speaker 1: to go overseas and fight wars and defend our freedom abroad, 345 00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:23,800 Speaker 1: and also to be here it's hurricane season. Think about 346 00:18:23,800 --> 00:18:27,400 Speaker 1: the Guard and how instrumental they've been in natural disasters 347 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:29,920 Speaker 1: and even during COVID, the work that they were doing. 348 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:32,320 Speaker 3: That's the mission of the Guard. 349 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:35,840 Speaker 1: And so to see it abused in this way as 350 00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:40,199 Speaker 1: a as a really an act of political theater and 351 00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:45,800 Speaker 1: just to sort of show a power flex it's it's 352 00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:50,399 Speaker 1: it's terribly distressing and I know it's it's not the 353 00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:54,040 Speaker 1: mission of those teams, and it's it's just sad to see. 354 00:18:54,160 --> 00:18:57,280 Speaker 2: So switching gears a little bit, you brought up the 355 00:18:57,320 --> 00:19:01,600 Speaker 2: AI industry. Can you tell us about how you see 356 00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:05,080 Speaker 2: developing that in Massachusetts? Strong businesses here and what is 357 00:19:05,080 --> 00:19:05,600 Speaker 2: your vision? 358 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:09,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, first, it does take money in investment, because 359 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:11,560 Speaker 1: the rest is just happy talk unless you actually put 360 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:14,720 Speaker 1: some muscle on, some investment and some dollars behind it. 361 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:18,280 Speaker 1: So we've launched one hundred million dollar AI hub that 362 00:19:19,080 --> 00:19:22,720 Speaker 1: we've created that allows research and government and industry to 363 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:27,480 Speaker 1: come together and that's exciting to see. We also, though, 364 00:19:28,320 --> 00:19:31,280 Speaker 1: have focused on how can we create the kind of 365 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:34,879 Speaker 1: applied AI accelerators that we want to see, and we 366 00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:38,879 Speaker 1: recently announced a partnership with IBM and red Hat where 367 00:19:39,040 --> 00:19:41,760 Speaker 1: they'll be here in Massachusetts and they'll be helping us 368 00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:47,600 Speaker 1: create this accelerator network for applied AI entities, and I 369 00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:51,240 Speaker 1: think that's going to be really powerful because again I'm 370 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:54,520 Speaker 1: for me, the race in Massachusetts is how can we 371 00:19:54,640 --> 00:20:00,080 Speaker 1: use AI to more quickly treat disease and come up 372 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:03,280 Speaker 1: with cures or you determine what we need to do 373 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:06,720 Speaker 1: around any number of things, right, I mean that's been 374 00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:09,960 Speaker 1: our focus, and so I'm excited about those things. The 375 00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:12,680 Speaker 1: other thing with this is you've got to have training, 376 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:14,440 Speaker 1: though you've got to have a workforce. So we put 377 00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:18,320 Speaker 1: a lot of research and resources into our schools how 378 00:20:18,359 --> 00:20:20,760 Speaker 1: to train in our schools on AI because we want 379 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:24,000 Speaker 1: our young people trained on and acclimated to AI and 380 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:27,000 Speaker 1: using that as part of a vocational training and also 381 00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:30,080 Speaker 1: something that they learn in a traditional CA to twelve curricula. 382 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:33,720 Speaker 1: I think that's super important. And finally importantly, I think 383 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:36,120 Speaker 1: you've got to practice what you preach, and so We've 384 00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:40,080 Speaker 1: benefited from a wonderful partnership with colleges and universities. Northeastern 385 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:46,280 Speaker 1: University here, pre eminent university. We have students from Northeastern 386 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:48,280 Speaker 1: that we have actually brought into all of our state 387 00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:52,040 Speaker 1: agencies and we gave them a sandbox, an AI sandbox, 388 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:56,639 Speaker 1: and they've actually now developed tools that our state employees 389 00:20:56,680 --> 00:21:01,240 Speaker 1: are using to make the delivery of governments services faster 390 00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:01,840 Speaker 1: and better. 391 00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:03,040 Speaker 3: I'll give you an example. 392 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:05,720 Speaker 1: You apply for you know, you're working on a project 393 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:09,680 Speaker 1: as a contractor to redo this highway, and typically you'd 394 00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:12,080 Speaker 1: have to call somebody up at the Department of Transportation 395 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:15,720 Speaker 1: and talk through different change orders and specs that could 396 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:19,480 Speaker 1: take days weeks to wade through nine hundred pages right 397 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:22,840 Speaker 1: and get a response. Imagine a prompt just a couple 398 00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:24,960 Speaker 1: of minutes later, you have an answer that's going to 399 00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:27,159 Speaker 1: be great for government because it's going to help us 400 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:32,560 Speaker 1: better deliver and serve our people. So I'm very excited 401 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:34,720 Speaker 1: about the possibilities of AI in our state. 402 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:35,320 Speaker 3: Yeah. 403 00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:37,359 Speaker 2: So before we go to the audience, Q and I 404 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:40,080 Speaker 2: one last question. I was hoping you could zoom out 405 00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:42,520 Speaker 2: a little bit for us and tell us how effective 406 00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:45,440 Speaker 2: you think the Democratic Party has been so far at 407 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:50,920 Speaker 2: pushing back on President Trump, and specifically, could you give 408 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:53,919 Speaker 2: us a window into the level of coordination amongst the 409 00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:57,240 Speaker 2: Democratic governors and the attorney generals. What does that look 410 00:21:57,359 --> 00:21:59,960 Speaker 2: like as you think about all these policies that you oppose. 411 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:03,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, and as I mentioned at the outset, 412 00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:07,400 Speaker 1: I think all of us are dealing with really severe 413 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:09,520 Speaker 1: cuts and hits to our state. 414 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:10,840 Speaker 3: I think about the fact. 415 00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:15,399 Speaker 1: That the recently past Big Beautiful Bill is going to 416 00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:19,480 Speaker 1: potentially throw three hundred and fifty thousand base Staters off 417 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:24,159 Speaker 1: of health insurance. That's a huge number, right, And the 418 00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:26,760 Speaker 1: same thing is happening in other states. And so we 419 00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:30,920 Speaker 1: obviously talk a lot about what these cuts mean. You know, 420 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:33,159 Speaker 1: how we're going to take care of our seniors, how 421 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:38,639 Speaker 1: we're going to feed kids who just saw Donald Trump cut. 422 00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:40,000 Speaker 3: Food for kids. 423 00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:43,600 Speaker 1: I mean, things that we can never have imagined are happening. 424 00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:46,840 Speaker 1: The disinvestment. How do you deal with the fact that 425 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:49,439 Speaker 1: capital isn't being deployed in your state because it's not 426 00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:51,280 Speaker 1: being deployed in this country right now because people are 427 00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:54,840 Speaker 1: so uncertain or they're going elsewhere. You know, all of 428 00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:58,040 Speaker 1: these things we're experiencing there's a lot of commonality there, 429 00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:00,320 Speaker 1: so it's important for us to be into to and 430 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:03,400 Speaker 1: find ways to support each other. You see that happening 431 00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:08,119 Speaker 1: among states looking to work together regionally. You know, I 432 00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:10,960 Speaker 1: mentioned the convenient I did with the Canadian premiers and 433 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:15,359 Speaker 1: the Northeast governors, including New York, because we have to 434 00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:18,679 Speaker 1: think about how we're going to work collaboratively on bringing 435 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:22,120 Speaker 1: more energy into our region and lowering costs. I think about, 436 00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:26,199 Speaker 1: for example, public health in the face of RFK just 437 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:30,359 Speaker 1: destroying public health and the public health infrastructure in this 438 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:33,719 Speaker 1: country or attempting to you know, how are we going 439 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:35,880 Speaker 1: to work together as states to make sure that people 440 00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:39,560 Speaker 1: have access to the kinds of you know, vaccines that 441 00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:42,280 Speaker 1: people want. Flu seasons coming up, we still have COVID, 442 00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:44,880 Speaker 1: I mean all the stuff that you know, we send 443 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:47,679 Speaker 1: our kids off to school and get like, how do 444 00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:50,440 Speaker 1: we work together as states to come in and support 445 00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:51,600 Speaker 1: some of this infrastructure. 446 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:52,560 Speaker 3: I think the thing. 447 00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:55,080 Speaker 1: About the party, Look, it's a big party, it's a 448 00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:55,480 Speaker 1: big tent. 449 00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:56,720 Speaker 3: You got a lot of voices. 450 00:23:57,080 --> 00:23:59,600 Speaker 1: I know that I am focused on telling the story 451 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:02,320 Speaker 1: of what I am doing as a Democratic leader. I 452 00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:04,680 Speaker 1: tell people about the fact that I cut taxes. I'm 453 00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:08,119 Speaker 1: the first governor in Massachusetts in over twenty years, a 454 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:12,760 Speaker 1: Democrat to cut taxes. I was preceded by a Republican governor. 455 00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:15,880 Speaker 1: I am focused every day on building more housing. When 456 00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:19,080 Speaker 1: I started as governor, we were short and estimated two 457 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:22,119 Speaker 1: hundred and twenty thousand housing units in this state. 458 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:24,720 Speaker 3: They just hadn't been housing being built in our state. 459 00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:28,080 Speaker 1: And through a bunch of things, we did tax credits 460 00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:30,880 Speaker 1: for developers, you know, changes to the law to make 461 00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:35,239 Speaker 1: accessory dwelling units available by right, We're doing you know, 462 00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:40,440 Speaker 1: mill to housing conversions, office to housing conversions. I've offered 463 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:43,760 Speaker 1: a surplus land in the state to developers to build housing. 464 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:47,000 Speaker 1: We started with a deficit of two hundred and twenty 465 00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:49,560 Speaker 1: thousand and two and a half years in, we now 466 00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:52,879 Speaker 1: have over ninety thousand housing starts underway. We got a 467 00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:54,960 Speaker 1: lot of work to do still, but you have to 468 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:57,439 Speaker 1: talk to people about, you know, what it is that 469 00:24:57,480 --> 00:25:00,600 Speaker 1: you're delivering on and frankly, what the Democratic Party represents 470 00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:04,720 Speaker 1: to me. We represent we invest in education, in public education, 471 00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:09,399 Speaker 1: we invest in science, we invest in healthcare. You know, 472 00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:14,000 Speaker 1: we believe that working together we can achieve so much more. 473 00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:17,679 Speaker 3: I mean, we invest in workforce. These are all things 474 00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:19,560 Speaker 3: that the Democratic Party stands for. 475 00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:21,919 Speaker 1: And by the way, you know, I'll just say this, 476 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:25,000 Speaker 1: as a party, I think we think diversity is a strength, 477 00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:27,280 Speaker 1: not a flaw. We ought to be availing ourselves of 478 00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:29,400 Speaker 1: everybody's talent. You know, it doesn't matter where they're from 479 00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:32,240 Speaker 1: or who they love, like, why not, you know, make 480 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:35,000 Speaker 1: the most of what everybody has to offer. 481 00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:36,680 Speaker 3: And I think too to that point. 482 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:40,680 Speaker 1: You know, people believe in freedom in this country, as 483 00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:43,080 Speaker 1: we should. And as a governor in Massachusetts, where this 484 00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:46,040 Speaker 1: country was born, right, we celebrated two hundred and fifty years. 485 00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:48,480 Speaker 1: We started a year early because we kicked it all 486 00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:52,440 Speaker 1: off with those little battles in Lexington and conquered freedom matters, 487 00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:58,000 Speaker 1: you know, reproductive freedom, right, the freedom to live a 488 00:25:58,040 --> 00:25:59,240 Speaker 1: life free of discrimination. 489 00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:03,160 Speaker 3: Right. These things matter to people. They matter to people. 490 00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:06,000 Speaker 1: Who have kids too, because you want the future to 491 00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:08,680 Speaker 1: be even brighter for your kids than it was for yourself. 492 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:11,080 Speaker 1: And I think that's something that we need to continue 493 00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:12,960 Speaker 1: to draw in as a country, and certainly I will 494 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:14,560 Speaker 1: as a Democratic leader