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Speaker 4: What's up? Another episode Against the Chronicles podcast, And I

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Speaker 4: got some surprising news. Got the Homeboy Og Dazzy D

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Speaker 4: about to be joining me in m C eight on

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Speaker 4: the podcast here on out. You know I need that.

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Speaker 4: I need that third wheel, man. You feel what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: We need that third wheel, and we needed another og,

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Speaker 4: not just anybody. Daddy's cracking with you, ma'am.

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Speaker 5: Hey man, you know how we do it. Brother, We're

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Speaker 5: trying to keep it moving home. You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 5: I'm glad to be part of the team. Brother.

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Speaker 4: We'll show you know the Homeboy Dazzy D man Og producer,

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Speaker 4: rapper extraord. Now we got another person man that's real hot.

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Speaker 4: And hear the night Man coming on with us to

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Speaker 4: talk about state of hip hop. Come on, Curtis King

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Speaker 4: of Honored man. You know Curtis is like one of

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Speaker 4: those intellectual hip hop tights. Man. So I'm honored man

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Speaker 4: to have him coming here man with us, Man, come

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Speaker 4: in the ghetto one time, man and shocking up with

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Speaker 4: the brothers you know on the corner with the forty ounces.

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Speaker 5: I'm with it. I'm with it.

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Speaker 3: Especially when when I got the call, I didn't pick

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Speaker 3: I didn't get to pick up because I was live streaming,

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Speaker 3: hit me up when it's important, important business. So I

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Speaker 3: appreciate you having me on for.

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Speaker 4: Sure, man, you know, and you know, one of the

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Speaker 4: things we'd be talking about offline, especially being daddy don't

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Speaker 4: Pop is in this real weird space right now where

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Speaker 4: it's a couple of these guys that are rappers. I

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Speaker 4: don't even know they was rappers. I know them more

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Speaker 4: hear no music. I can see antics, right, you know,

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Speaker 4: whereas in my you know, in our day and time, Man,

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Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. Just wreck you feel what

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Speaker 4: I'm saying. We in this real weird space now, and

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Speaker 3: M Yeah, I think you make a valid point. Ain't

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Speaker 4: Yes, real talk. And you know, with these kids nowadays, man,

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Speaker 4: If you're eighteen, you really know what's going on right,

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Speaker 4: I'm seeing these guys. Not to put out them names.

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Speaker 4: I'm not here to blash nobody, because that's not what

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Speaker 4: these guys, man, they've turned into content creators. I hate

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Speaker 4: I think it's twenty thirteen something like that. Man, since

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Speaker 4: but it's real, like almost some some of these dudes

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Speaker 4: that like they learned and disabled. Man. You remember they

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Speaker 4: with some of the homies and like wild and stuff,

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Speaker 3: I got one of my subscribers that always reminds me

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Speaker 3: get mad. The average reading level is level three or

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Speaker 3: like what's your background. You could be the most gangst

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Speaker 3: reading through like any I don't care if they the bully,

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Speaker 3: And I think being in that environment forced us to

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Speaker 3: You talk about a lot of a lot of the

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Speaker 3: Like what other time have we had where I could

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Speaker 3: have the phone open, here, the iPad open the here,

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Speaker 3: don't sound like a fun or at least before last year,

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Speaker 3: it doesn't sound like a fun activity for them to

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Speaker 1: All they want is quote unquote vibes.

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Speaker 3: When I understood that, and I was like, that's why

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Speaker 3: that's why you and I are disconnect talking about them.

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Speaker 3: That's why we're disconnected because I look for I look

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Speaker 3: I've always had the theory that they take all the

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Speaker 3: They take you for your money, your masters, they take

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Speaker 3: Able to tell these stories, you know, on podcasts or

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Speaker 4: it's some that I appreciate, you know, to go see

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Speaker 4: I started going to Europe, like maybe two thousand and four,

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Speaker 3: Less And I'm still here for real, you know here,

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Speaker 5: Sure.

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Speaker 4: I think we was a little and I'm not one

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Speaker 4: But they just me getting order. I don't feel a

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Speaker 3: You want to write you know, like like like like

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Speaker 3: like some of the the like Biggie like, you want

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Speaker 5: You know. You know what's crazy, homie is.

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Speaker 7: I remember about four years ago, right, I was at

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Speaker 7: I'm talking about full press, right. So I talked to

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Speaker 7: They be youngsters, and when they don't even come in

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Speaker 5: I was like that, ain't it?

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Speaker 3: You know that would have got me laughed at the

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Speaker 5: Real talk?

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Speaker 3: I'd rather deal with somebody else that's not as talented.

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Speaker 3: They treat this like it's a hobby, and wonder why

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Speaker 3: That's what it is. We buy studio time, not to

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and that model is slowly playing out. Man. What

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Speaker 4: And I'm talking about real independence, not just putting your

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Speaker 4: You go to a job, right and that job is

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Speaker 3: Doing that, and I salute you for that because I'm

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Speaker 3: your business. Some days are better than others. This is

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Speaker 3: the entrepreneurial journey that I chose. I think, what's so

436
00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:19,840
Speaker 3: what's so powerful about you being out there? Is one

437
00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:23,959
Speaker 3: once you go overseas, the expectation is that you can

438
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Speaker 3: come back overseas once you sell merchandise and all of that.

439
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Speaker 3: And I'm not saying this as if you're stuff you

440
00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:31,639
Speaker 3: don't already know. I'm just saying, like I think for

441
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Speaker 3: those who are watching who don't know, like getting paid

442
00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:37,160
Speaker 3: five it's artists right now that were beg to get

443
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Speaker 3: paid fifty dollars in a plane ticket to go to

444
00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:42,520
Speaker 3: Germany right now because of how crazy it is and

445
00:19:42,560 --> 00:19:45,439
Speaker 3: how cheap a lot of these venues and promoters have become.

446
00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:49,040
Speaker 3: But can't You can't turn your nose up to something

447
00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:51,400
Speaker 3: that you haven't accomplished. And I think that that's one

448
00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:54,640
Speaker 3: thing I noticed specifically on social media is that there's

449
00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:56,359
Speaker 3: a lot of that going around where they'll look at

450
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Speaker 3: somebody and call them a failed rapper or a failed producer,

451
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Speaker 3: and I'm like, what have you ever succeeded at.

452
00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:06,119
Speaker 4: To be somebody that's got check. Anybody that gets a

453
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Speaker 4: check in this bitness. Anybody that got to check out

454
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Speaker 4: of hip hop man, salute to you. Everybody got to

455
00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:12,920
Speaker 4: check out of the film if that was if they

456
00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:15,600
Speaker 4: are basketball player, football player. I don't care if you

457
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Speaker 4: played in the G League. I don't care if you

458
00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:20,840
Speaker 4: played in the UFL or whatever, cfil or whatever. If

459
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Speaker 4: somebody pays you to do your craft, that means you're

460
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Speaker 4: better than ninety nine point nine percent if everybody else

461
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Speaker 4: in your perspective field.

462
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Speaker 5: You know what's funny, It goes back. It goes back

463
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Speaker 5: to what y'all was saying, though.

464
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Speaker 7: Bro, it's about see here's the difference between our generation

465
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Speaker 7: and the new generation. Right, It's about antics now, right,

466
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Speaker 7: All you got to do is how to correct antics, bro,

467
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Speaker 7: whether it's messy, whether it's trying to be super gangster,

468
00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:48,800
Speaker 7: whether it's trying to be super goofy. The antics attract

469
00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:55,800
Speaker 7: more traffic nowadays than actually good music, right. I could

470
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Speaker 7: I can see somebody doing something off the wall, roll

471
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Speaker 7: for like two or three weeks and don't even know

472
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Speaker 7: they rap, yeah, steell me, and then when I do

473
00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:09,639
Speaker 7: tune in to him to go Damn, I ain't know

474
00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:11,160
Speaker 7: they rap. Let me check him out.

475
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Speaker 5: The trash trash.

476
00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:26,760
Speaker 4: I'm gonna give y'all one even better. So and I

477
00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:28,679
Speaker 4: ain't gonna say this dude's name because I wanted to

478
00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:31,040
Speaker 4: come and blast my house up, you know what I'm saying.

479
00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:34,800
Speaker 4: But so my my attorney caused me one day, man

480
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Speaker 4: shut out today. Man. He hits me up one day

481
00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:40,560
Speaker 4: and says, hey, man, I want to get such and

482
00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:42,879
Speaker 4: such on your show. And I'm kind of like, huh,

483
00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:44,600
Speaker 4: I know who this dude is because I don't see

484
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Speaker 4: him on Adam twenty two's. He's not our type of person, right,

485
00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:51,040
Speaker 4: But it's my attorney, right, you know, shout out today again?

486
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Speaker 4: And I say, why not? So now treat this the

487
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Speaker 4: person I was gonna have come in and like we

488
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Speaker 4: was doing a live taking, so I have, you know,

489
00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:03,080
Speaker 4: go to Hollywood and stuff. The one guy we had

490
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Speaker 4: coming in there that was gonna come in. We had

491
00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:06,520
Speaker 4: already been kind of like he was stilling, kind of

492
00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:08,400
Speaker 4: telling me like I'm coming to night, bro, but next

493
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Speaker 4: week would really be better. So I said, you know what,

494
00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:13,399
Speaker 4: forget it day telling him to be here tonight. So

495
00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:16,920
Speaker 4: I tell my man, hey, just coming next week. Bro,

496
00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:20,080
Speaker 4: Oh thanks, good looking out? So you know, problem solved? Right,

497
00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:22,880
Speaker 4: So I go to the studio, right and I'm waiting

498
00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:25,040
Speaker 4: for this dude to get here. Man, it's like five

499
00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:28,520
Speaker 4: minutes past when you got a guess, I got a roll,

500
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Speaker 4: I got a model, me and eight got a month.

501
00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:32,240
Speaker 4: When you go find us out? Two sacks. If we

502
00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:33,919
Speaker 4: in the studio and we waiting for you to come up,

503
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Speaker 4: you haven't called us and you're running late. When it's

504
00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:38,960
Speaker 4: past at ten minute mark, we gonna start doing the show.

505
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you start the show. Okay, we're starting the show.

506
00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:45,159
Speaker 4: So if you come in and you happen to make it, well,

507
00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:47,720
Speaker 4: then like you got around a thirty minute marks to

508
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Speaker 4: be allowed to sit down with us. If you coming

509
00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:51,600
Speaker 4: in there thirty minute mark, we're gonna tell you to

510
00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:54,080
Speaker 4: do one of these till you hold up. You gonna

511
00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:56,280
Speaker 4: wait outside that look last, we're gonna finish the show,

512
00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:58,000
Speaker 4: and we're gonna come out there and say what's happening?

513
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Speaker 5: Man?

514
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Speaker 4: Too bad you can't make it? You know why, because

515
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Speaker 4: you didn't do western courtesy of giving us a phone call.

516
00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:05,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it takes two seconds to do that. It

517
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Speaker 1: takes I'm.

518
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Speaker 4: Gonna tell you right now, We're not like these other shows.

519
00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:13,000
Speaker 4: We don't pay for guests. You have. Everything we get

520
00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:15,639
Speaker 4: is off the sprink of our relationships. Somebody want to

521
00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:17,359
Speaker 4: come and sit down with us, we don't do. You know,

522
00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:19,040
Speaker 4: if you want some money, you can win to the

523
00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:20,960
Speaker 4: wrong show. We ain't gotten it for you.

524
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Speaker 1: I'm still my mind is still blowing it. That's a thing.

525
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Speaker 3: Like somebody approached me. Somebody came to me though, Like

526
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Speaker 3: I understand if I reached out and you got your price, Okay, cool,

527
00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:33,360
Speaker 3: that's your time, that's your travel. I still think that's

528
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Speaker 3: wild because of how many interviews I did, especially up

529
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Speaker 3: and down the West Coast for free, because I was like.

530
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Speaker 1: It's in exchange. You have a platform, I have a story,

531
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Speaker 1: and this is what it is.

532
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Speaker 4: But I get it right.

533
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Speaker 1: But things evolved, Okay, cool.

534
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Speaker 3: But somebody reached out to me to be on my

535
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Speaker 3: platform and then said I'll come down on my price.

536
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Speaker 1: And I said, it don't matter how low you come

537
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Speaker 1: on on your price, you're not coming on it.

538
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Speaker 4: I had helped to me before. Now I'm gonna put

539
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Speaker 4: this whose name? This white guy hits me up. He's

540
00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:06,000
Speaker 4: on our clips channel, right, cause we got, you know,

541
00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:07,879
Speaker 4: a couple of different YouTube channel. He's on our clips

542
00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:10,719
Speaker 4: channel and he's like, man, y'all need to have me

543
00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:12,160
Speaker 4: on the show. You need to have me on the show.

544
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Speaker 4: So our cameraman shout out to Brian. He hits me

545
00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:17,760
Speaker 4: up and like, hey man, this dude keep asking you

546
00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:19,879
Speaker 4: on the show, so he gonna hit you. So he

547
00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:24,840
Speaker 4: hits me up in the on Instagram or whatever and says,

548
00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:27,280
Speaker 4: what's up. And so I'm kind of like, what's up?

549
00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:32,320
Speaker 4: Like what's having? Yeah, what's up? Y'all need me to

550
00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:35,639
Speaker 4: come let me know what y'all budget is. And I said, bro,

551
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Speaker 4: you hear us something to come over. I ain't reach

552
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Speaker 4: out to you asked me to come on this motherfucker?

553
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Speaker 3: How you volunteering yourself to take me to put my

554
00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:44,639
Speaker 3: money in your pockets?

555
00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:47,040
Speaker 1: How does that work? That's the part I'm saying.

556
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Speaker 4: And what am I paying you for? So let me

557
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Speaker 4: get back to this little dude, right. So I'm sitting

558
00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:54,639
Speaker 4: in the studio waiting, keep in mind, and he was

559
00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:57,439
Speaker 4: sick that night. He was sick, just like you know

560
00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:00,960
Speaker 4: for everybody else that to knowse everybody knows he ighties

561
00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:02,680
Speaker 4: on tour this week. That's why ain't here's gonna ask

562
00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:06,000
Speaker 4: me no more? Get me back here next week. So

563
00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:08,840
Speaker 4: this dude coming, I'm waiting. I'm already steaming. I'm mad

564
00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:13,680
Speaker 4: right the seven twenty. I'm by myself and I could

565
00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:15,760
Speaker 4: pull those episodes up. I've done them before, but I

566
00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:17,920
Speaker 4: don't like doing them. I don't have no I don't

567
00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:20,960
Speaker 4: have no planing. You you know what this seels. You

568
00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:22,480
Speaker 4: do this for a living, bro, So you know what

569
00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:24,880
Speaker 4: it is when you don't have nothing to talk about,

570
00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:27,720
Speaker 4: kind of like you have something said it already and

571
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Speaker 4: I'm like. So I called David and said, man, where

572
00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:32,800
Speaker 4: your boy? And he said, oh man, he pissed me off.

573
00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:34,960
Speaker 4: He said he's not coming. He said that y'all should

574
00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:36,800
Speaker 4: be giving him a few dollars because he hot right now.

575
00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:40,119
Speaker 4: I told Dave, I said, man, first of all, you

576
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Speaker 4: tell that little mother I call him everything. I said, man,

577
00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:45,040
Speaker 4: you tell them go to eat a bag. And you

578
00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:47,080
Speaker 4: know what, you know what I'm saying, cause I was

579
00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:47,720
Speaker 4: mad as.

580
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Speaker 1: Hell, and I was like, here, if you got hot,

581
00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:54,440
Speaker 1: why are you reaching out the platforms? If you got hot,

582
00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:57,159
Speaker 1: not math it if you got it.

583
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Speaker 3: And that's the thing about it, like I always try

584
00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:01,760
Speaker 3: to make sure that whatever I expect anybody else, I

585
00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:04,359
Speaker 3: first take accountability and put them standards on me.

586
00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:05,280
Speaker 1: Right.

587
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:08,440
Speaker 3: I make sure that that that if I'm not willing

588
00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:10,679
Speaker 3: to show up the way that I'm gonna show up,

589
00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:12,879
Speaker 3: I'm gonna tell somebody no, even if they have a

590
00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:15,359
Speaker 3: large platform, like you know what, No, it's not a

591
00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:15,800
Speaker 3: good time.

592
00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:17,760
Speaker 1: And I won't give you my best, but for you

593
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Speaker 1: to go reach out to somebody.

594
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Speaker 3: I can't even imagine the mindset of reaching out to

595
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Speaker 3: somebody and telling them, okay, yeah, so here's my price.

596
00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:26,720
Speaker 1: You you cold calling?

597
00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:30,480
Speaker 3: If you got a following, talk to your following. We

598
00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:33,280
Speaker 3: in twenty twenty five, you go live stream by yourself.

599
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Speaker 3: But when you got other people and they got cameramen,

600
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Speaker 3: they got staffed, they gotta they gotta go from their

601
00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:43,639
Speaker 3: families to come talk to you, which is really just

602
00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:47,960
Speaker 3: you setting up cameras so they can waffle on about themselves.

603
00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:50,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, and you know what it deos too. I'm gonna

604
00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:55,760
Speaker 4: tell you what these guys pay for and SEO, I

605
00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:57,680
Speaker 4: got a plenty of homeboys out and they got really

606
00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:00,679
Speaker 4: successful platforms, and that's their model and they're doing their

607
00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:02,879
Speaker 4: things shout out to y'all. Y'all know who y'all is, right,

608
00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:07,080
Speaker 4: But the thing is, when you pay somebody for something,

609
00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:10,000
Speaker 4: you have an expectation. Sure, that's almost like if you

610
00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:11,840
Speaker 4: go on a date with a woman and she tells you,

611
00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:14,719
Speaker 4: I need three hundred dollars for the evening you need

612
00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:16,119
Speaker 4: to go tell to get the hell out of your car.

613
00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:17,679
Speaker 4: You're gonna say, you know what, we could skip? Well,

614
00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:19,480
Speaker 4: I can skip these movies in this restaurant. Now we

615
00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:21,920
Speaker 4: going straight to the thumb or tell, because I was

616
00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:25,040
Speaker 4: gonna spend that anyway. You feel what I'm saying right right,

617
00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:28,840
Speaker 4: So it's the same thing with these guys. If somebody's

618
00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:31,280
Speaker 4: gonna pay you to come on their platform, they gonna

619
00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:33,520
Speaker 4: ask you all the goofy stuff for this man. They

620
00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:36,119
Speaker 4: will ask you if you shot somebody before, how was

621
00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:38,159
Speaker 4: it being a crip? How is it being a blood?

622
00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:40,639
Speaker 4: All your business? They donna want to get and they

623
00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:42,720
Speaker 4: have a right to. They have a right to delve

624
00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:45,760
Speaker 4: into your thing because they are paying for that opportunity

625
00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:47,760
Speaker 4: to delve into your personal memoirs.

626
00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:50,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, but see, I'm the type person that say I'd

627
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:52,120
Speaker 3: rather just do it for free so I can walk

628
00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:55,360
Speaker 3: away when you start asking them questions. I don't want

629
00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:57,320
Speaker 3: to pay for something that's gonna lock me into having

630
00:27:57,359 --> 00:28:00,240
Speaker 3: to answer those questions. If if I'm a I think

631
00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:01,080
Speaker 3: that's something else too.

632
00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:01,359
Speaker 5: Is that.

633
00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:05,359
Speaker 1: A part of that? And I hate to say it

634
00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:06,720
Speaker 1: because I'm I'm I'm I'm.

635
00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:09,600
Speaker 3: Obviously pro artists when I say this, as I know

636
00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:12,920
Speaker 3: that y'all are too, but I'm not pro to bullshit

637
00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:14,800
Speaker 3: like if y'all. If y'all are not gonna do the

638
00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:19,480
Speaker 3: work to make content, you need people who got platforms

639
00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:22,560
Speaker 3: to help you make content. So trying to like get

640
00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:24,600
Speaker 3: around there and say I'm hot, Okay, you so hot,

641
00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:29,359
Speaker 3: Hire somebody and delegate the responsibilities of doing content. Have

642
00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:31,440
Speaker 3: them follow you around in the studio, have a little

643
00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:34,040
Speaker 3: have a young editor who you know, I'm just just

644
00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:37,399
Speaker 3: is just trying to get their resume built. Go do that,

645
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:40,680
Speaker 3: But don't sit up here and think that you're entitled

646
00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:44,040
Speaker 3: to other people's time. Which is why like even with me,

647
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:47,520
Speaker 3: like I do interviews from the house, but not everybody

648
00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:49,360
Speaker 3: get to come to the house. Sometimes I do the

649
00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:53,040
Speaker 3: stream yard simply because it's like, but even then, if

650
00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:54,760
Speaker 3: I don't trust you in my house, it's more of

651
00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:55,400
Speaker 3: a convenience.

652
00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:57,000
Speaker 1: I got to ask myself, why am I talking to

653
00:28:57,120 --> 00:28:57,520
Speaker 1: this person?

654
00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:00,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't have homies come to take over my

655
00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:03,080
Speaker 4: house too. I haven't had that a lot, but the

656
00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:06,920
Speaker 4: homies did. Like Glasses, Man, he will come over here, Glasses,

657
00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:10,040
Speaker 4: it's my brother. He you know house, you know millions

658
00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:12,400
Speaker 4: times as I am his is. At one time I

659
00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:14,560
Speaker 4: had a key of Glass's house over in Lakewood because

660
00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:16,520
Speaker 4: when he go out of town he's doing cash money.

661
00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:19,360
Speaker 4: Peo would tell me, hey, man, you know how Glasses

662
00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:23,240
Speaker 4: his glasses to call you eleven o'clock at night because

663
00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:25,480
Speaker 4: I left this thing over here cause you go go

664
00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:27,640
Speaker 4: to my house and I think about it. I lived

665
00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:30,080
Speaker 4: thirty minutes away from them. I'm like, dog, you were

666
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:32,400
Speaker 4: think of this earlier in the day. I gotta wake

667
00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:34,240
Speaker 4: up and got to explain to my wife why I'm

668
00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:36,720
Speaker 4: going somewhere to go get a piece of paper to

669
00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:38,240
Speaker 4: tell him what to say on there. You know what

670
00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:39,680
Speaker 4: I'm saying, that's Jedo.

671
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:42,800
Speaker 3: That's Jedo because when I when I moved from Carson

672
00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:47,040
Speaker 3: to to Rancho for a few years back, when I

673
00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:48,440
Speaker 3: was trying to build him, I didn't know him on

674
00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:50,040
Speaker 3: the level that you knew him as a friend. I

675
00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:52,600
Speaker 3: just knew him as I got my first placement because

676
00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:54,760
Speaker 3: I sent them beasts when he was you know, all

677
00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:58,560
Speaker 3: the Blue Division artists were there, and you know Ace

678
00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:00,760
Speaker 3: Pawn was doing all of like the her stuff or

679
00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:04,200
Speaker 3: the A and R stuff, and so he was like,

680
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:08,720
Speaker 3: he put out an email, Uh, Glasses kneeds beats for

681
00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:11,680
Speaker 3: a project he's doing with mag ten And I sent

682
00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:13,960
Speaker 3: three beats. When the church came back, I had a placement,

683
00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:16,000
Speaker 3: so I was still trying to build on some kind

684
00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:16,440
Speaker 3: of level.

685
00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:18,000
Speaker 1: I tell you this, it was.

686
00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:19,800
Speaker 3: It was times where I was like, dam an, I fine, really,

687
00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:22,120
Speaker 3: I'm about to really go to the studio with Glasses.

688
00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:25,840
Speaker 3: Was like twenty ten and I drove out there, and

689
00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:28,880
Speaker 3: this is when I got to understand, like he's his

690
00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:31,840
Speaker 3: mind works differently, like he operated on his own time.

691
00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:35,080
Speaker 3: And I went out there had my laptop. She was like,

692
00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:37,600
Speaker 3: I'm ready to play some beats, and they was like, oh,

693
00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:39,080
Speaker 3: g left thirty minutes ago.

694
00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:42,640
Speaker 4: That's his dass right there. That's him. I ain't called

695
00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:44,680
Speaker 4: you with nothing, ain't called you with nothing.

696
00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:47,200
Speaker 1: That's him, all right, Okay, so it's good to hear that.

697
00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:48,640
Speaker 3: I'm like, you know, what I'm saying, because you never

698
00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:50,560
Speaker 3: know when you walk into it by now I know,

699
00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:53,000
Speaker 3: but I'm just saying, like, I just think that's just

700
00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:54,000
Speaker 3: the way his mind works.

701
00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:54,680
Speaker 1: I mean, you can't.

702
00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:57,840
Speaker 3: You can't love somebody's genius without understanding that that's part

703
00:30:57,840 --> 00:30:58,520
Speaker 3: of the character too.

704
00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:01,680
Speaker 4: His man, your man, and I remember, you know he

705
00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:04,320
Speaker 4: don't live close to here no more? Right, Yeah, So

706
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:07,000
Speaker 4: we go out there and I'm gonna give you two

707
00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:10,160
Speaker 4: different times. This is when we started doing the podcast stuff.

708
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:12,320
Speaker 4: I was trying to get him to do it right right,

709
00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:14,160
Speaker 4: and we had a little self he was recording at

710
00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:17,719
Speaker 4: his loft downtown when he lived downtown. I go down there, man,

711
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:20,400
Speaker 4: and he hits me all that day. Man, still be bullshiting.

712
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:20,560
Speaker 1: Man.

713
00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:22,200
Speaker 4: His wife ain't gonna let him work the woking and

714
00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:25,480
Speaker 4: their thing. I'm down there dog waiting getting the building,

715
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:29,479
Speaker 4: and I'm waiting by his door. Ten minutes go by,

716
00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:31,760
Speaker 4: twenty minutes go by. I finally called him, and keep

717
00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:35,080
Speaker 4: in mind, he ain't got the best signal up there, man,

718
00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 4: so the call keep dropping. So I keep running down

719
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:39,240
Speaker 4: the stairs man, just in case he called her something.

720
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:42,400
Speaker 4: And he tell me, oh, man, I'm my bad cousin.

721
00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:44,080
Speaker 4: I ain't gonna do a to make it. I said, man,

722
00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:45,680
Speaker 4: you couldn't call and tell me that. Man, I've been

723
00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:49,000
Speaker 4: waiting out here for a minute. But that's just classes.

724
00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:52,160
Speaker 4: You can't take that, man, because what do you do too?

725
00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:53,680
Speaker 5: He'd call you.

726
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:55,840
Speaker 4: Man, you know, we gotta do this thing that that

727
00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:58,200
Speaker 4: what you're talking about. We just got this thing in

728
00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:00,840
Speaker 4: the valley, just out just paying around the city. You're

729
00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:02,800
Speaker 4: like kind of around the city mouth and it's five

730
00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:05,320
Speaker 4: o'clock in the afternoon and you talking about this five o'clock.

731
00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:06,840
Speaker 4: Now you talking about need to be there about six.

732
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:07,600
Speaker 4: It ain't happen me.

733
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:08,480
Speaker 5: It ain't.

734
00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:12,080
Speaker 3: But you know what, though I say this, especially as

735
00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:15,600
Speaker 3: somebody that you know considers him, uh, one of the

736
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:20,560
Speaker 3: best mentors I had. It didn't matter. It didn't matter

737
00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:23,160
Speaker 3: that the context of my music, It didn't matter that

738
00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:27,000
Speaker 3: my story is very different from his. He got such

739
00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:30,200
Speaker 3: a he got such a good eye for authenticity. And

740
00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:32,040
Speaker 3: that's one thing he told because I asked him. I said,

741
00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:34,760
Speaker 3: he came out to my album release party I had

742
00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:36,600
Speaker 3: in Pomona when I had moved to la He came

743
00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:39,400
Speaker 3: out there and drove out there, and I'm like, at

744
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:41,120
Speaker 3: that time, it still was like it wasn't like Big

745
00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:41,800
Speaker 3: Broke Glass.

746
00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:44,320
Speaker 1: I'm like, lasts, just get out to my release party, right,

747
00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:44,959
Speaker 1: he didn't came out.

748
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:46,200
Speaker 3: When I did a show at the House of Blues,

749
00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:48,040
Speaker 3: he came out as a special guest, and I'm like,

750
00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:49,400
Speaker 3: I asked him on to I said, ge, why you

751
00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:51,720
Speaker 3: rock with me so much? Like you know what I'm saying,

752
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:53,200
Speaker 3: Like I know I ain't I don't look like most

753
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:55,320
Speaker 3: of your homies, and like I know, I might even

754
00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:57,320
Speaker 3: be a square in some of these circles, he said,

755
00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:01,120
Speaker 3: But you're not afraid to be you, he said, from

756
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:03,880
Speaker 3: all your flaws, you don't ever hide that. He says,

757
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:06,560
Speaker 3: you're authentic and that's all you need to know. And

758
00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:09,360
Speaker 3: it's and it's words like that that that that remind

759
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:12,720
Speaker 3: me like how grateful I am that. Uh, you know,

760
00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:15,520
Speaker 3: I had an upbringing that said, you don't got nothing

761
00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:18,160
Speaker 3: to prove to nobody, right you you you you, You

762
00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:21,040
Speaker 3: show up as the man that you are, and whoever's

763
00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:23,520
Speaker 3: supposed to be there will remain. Whoever's not supposed to

764
00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:26,840
Speaker 3: be there, they'll voluntarily leave that situation.

765
00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:27,160
Speaker 5: Right.

766
00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:31,400
Speaker 1: So, yeah, I always appreciated about him, even during this

767
00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:33,560
Speaker 1: battle Man. We we talked that.

768
00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:38,080
Speaker 3: We talked at at length about culture. We talked at

769
00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:41,239
Speaker 3: length about what is this, What is this gonna mean

770
00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:43,320
Speaker 3: for you, as Curtis king in this? What do you

771
00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:44,280
Speaker 3: need to reconnect to?

772
00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:45,560
Speaker 5: Right?

773
00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:48,400
Speaker 3: What ar some Carson have you disconnected from just because

774
00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:50,960
Speaker 3: of just how long you've been doing this journey and

775
00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:54,960
Speaker 3: how far away you are, And all those conversations sat

776
00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:57,280
Speaker 3: with me, and as I watched all this stuff unfold,

777
00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:00,120
Speaker 3: I started to really step into this next era of

778
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:02,360
Speaker 3: Curtis Kinge. But I owe so much of that to

779
00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:04,760
Speaker 3: the conversations I had with Glasses because he didn't have

780
00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:05,080
Speaker 3: to do that.

781
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:07,200
Speaker 4: Oh, he didn't have to do it. And you know,

782
00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:10,279
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go and I talked about glasses flaws. I'm

783
00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:12,319
Speaker 4: gonna tell you, Glasses is one of the best human

784
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:15,040
Speaker 4: beings I've ever met. He's his shirt off his back,

785
00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:18,080
Speaker 4: and the thing about him, he's genuine with it. He's

786
00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:20,520
Speaker 4: not whoever lied to you, he's not whoever to cheats you.

787
00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:22,759
Speaker 4: He's not where to see you. He's not gonna do

788
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:25,560
Speaker 4: none of that stuff you talked about the time he

789
00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:27,400
Speaker 4: was over there at TV Man, you know, I was

790
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:29,640
Speaker 4: renting with him, for a while too, man or I

791
00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:32,880
Speaker 4: didn't know, but yeah, those are my guys right there. Man,

792
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:35,600
Speaker 4: I remember that when he was just you know, when

793
00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:38,480
Speaker 4: he was just Kato man, and they was really pushing

794
00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:40,680
Speaker 4: Jay Rock over. The shots of them catch because they

795
00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:43,320
Speaker 4: tested him into what it takes to make it in

796
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:45,680
Speaker 4: his business. When people ask me about dude, dog shout

797
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:48,080
Speaker 4: us at my homeboy, Top. I was just holding him

798
00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:52,400
Speaker 4: the other night. He was relentless. Yeah you was, And

799
00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:55,560
Speaker 4: I'll tell you right now, man, if he don't, you know,

800
00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:58,160
Speaker 4: he gets the credit obviously because this guy's you know,

801
00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:01,239
Speaker 4: dotingham stay give him his credit. But I'm now m h.

802
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:04,440
Speaker 4: If it wasn't the Top Man, it probably wouldn't be

803
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:07,000
Speaker 4: a lot. I don't know if for to be Kendrick

804
00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:09,520
Speaker 4: as talents is. It's hard to make it in this business,

805
00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:12,560
Speaker 4: dude without a dude like Top behind it, prosbably wouldn't

806
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:14,840
Speaker 4: be one of the greatest references of this generation because

807
00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:15,960
Speaker 4: he was remmless. Though.

808
00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:19,279
Speaker 3: Just think about the infrastructure he set up, right And

809
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:21,200
Speaker 3: I didn't you know when I lived in Carson, I

810
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:23,640
Speaker 3: only lived like ten minutes away from the studio that

811
00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:23,960
Speaker 3: they were.

812
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:26,600
Speaker 1: There's two studios, right the house that was across the street.

813
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:28,480
Speaker 4: And the cross street and one of the crosstreet with

814
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:29,880
Speaker 4: the studio on the back right.

815
00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:32,279
Speaker 3: I'd have been to both of those. And I'm going

816
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:37,000
Speaker 3: funny story too. And it's funny because I tall it

817
00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:38,839
Speaker 3: to a few people. But the first time I went

818
00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:42,759
Speaker 3: over there, I'm already familiar with Carson. I know it's

819
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:44,840
Speaker 3: borderline content. Where we at, where that article's at. I'm like,

820
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:46,560
Speaker 3: all right, cool, I know where I'm at. I know

821
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:48,480
Speaker 3: it can get tricky depending on what time you at,

822
00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:50,640
Speaker 3: but I'm like, I'm going to a studio. Everything should

823
00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:53,200
Speaker 3: be good. Absol In botted me over because we had

824
00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:55,000
Speaker 3: some records that we were doing and I was supposed

825
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 3: to be Ali in the back studio. I call at

826
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:03,160
Speaker 3: so and I'm like, yo, I'm outside. Uh you know

827
00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:04,200
Speaker 3: what do I need to do? They to go to

828
00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:06,439
Speaker 3: the front door. He's like, no, no, no, just open

829
00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:10,279
Speaker 3: the gate and go to the studio. I said, open

830
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:12,839
Speaker 3: the gate and go to the back. I said, I said,

831
00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:15,319
Speaker 3: he said you good. He said, I gonna recognize you, okay.

832
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:18,239
Speaker 3: I said, all right, cool. I opened up the gate

833
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:20,680
Speaker 3: and I could not help but feel like it.

834
00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:24,080
Speaker 1: Was eyes just on me. It's eyes just on me.

835
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:25,439
Speaker 5: Mm hmm.

836
00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:30,839
Speaker 1: It was top top said Nigga almost blew your blow

837
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:31,440
Speaker 1: your head off.

838
00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:32,440
Speaker 5: He said, who is you?

839
00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:36,719
Speaker 3: I said, I came here for a soul and I

840
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:38,360
Speaker 3: came here to work with him tonight. He was like,

841
00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:40,440
Speaker 3: he's like, you need to you need to wait for

842
00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:42,480
Speaker 3: him next time. That was my introduction.

843
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:46,680
Speaker 4: But I say that to say that's true.

844
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:49,560
Speaker 3: But I say that to say that's how protective he

845
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:52,960
Speaker 3: was over that environment and protecting everybody that was in

846
00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:55,279
Speaker 3: that environment. I'll say you this. I've been there during

847
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:57,239
Speaker 3: those days. And I just talked to Ali on my

848
00:36:57,320 --> 00:37:00,320
Speaker 3: platform about this where they go to that Louisiana Fried

849
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:04,360
Speaker 3: Chicken over there off Avalon, and they bring the basket

850
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:07,440
Speaker 3: of fries and they literally are going through studio sessions

851
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:08,759
Speaker 3: just Sharon fry.

852
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:10,400
Speaker 1: He like might not not hand in hand, but like

853
00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:12,160
Speaker 1: they eating and going right back in the booth.

854
00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:14,880
Speaker 3: I watched that happen, but I also knew that in

855
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:18,520
Speaker 3: that space, wasn't nobody concerned about nobody walking up, Nobody

856
00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:20,560
Speaker 3: concerned about none of that. And I think a lot

857
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:24,560
Speaker 3: of that has to do with protecting your investment and

858
00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:27,680
Speaker 3: not just talking about the artists, but the environment that space.

859
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:30,120
Speaker 3: I never went in that space feeling like I was

860
00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:32,359
Speaker 3: at any kind of risk because I just knew how

861
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:36,520
Speaker 3: many folks was around that was taking care of home base.

862
00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:39,399
Speaker 1: That's important. Everybody don't have that dog.

863
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:43,320
Speaker 4: I'm gonna tell you about tough dude dog Man. He

864
00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:45,520
Speaker 4: was this type of dude. Man. He lets you know

865
00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:49,080
Speaker 4: how he felt. And it wasn't never with no disrespect.

866
00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:50,759
Speaker 4: He did the league with that right, but he was

867
00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:53,480
Speaker 4: very various trait for a person. Like he told you,

868
00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:56,239
Speaker 4: next time went outside, he meant that, you know, next

869
00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:59,240
Speaker 4: time with outside, he ain't gonna put some foot around

870
00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:01,960
Speaker 4: with you. I remember, man, one time we was in

871
00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:04,480
Speaker 4: Vegas at the arm They was out there shooting the

872
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:07,360
Speaker 4: Lollipop you know Top he had anywhere with some publicity.

873
00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:09,560
Speaker 4: He went thinking about it. He was gonna make sure

874
00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:11,680
Speaker 4: Jay rock and then was gonna get looks in that video.

875
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:14,160
Speaker 4: You gotta keep in mind at that time, Wayne is

876
00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:18,040
Speaker 4: the biggest artist in the world. Right, He's with Kendrick

877
00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:21,400
Speaker 4: Ills today back then, right, and they shooting that lolly

878
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:23,759
Speaker 4: Pop video shooting man Top. You know, we gonna go

879
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:25,680
Speaker 4: out to the Vegas man, we MiB ab out there.

880
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:30,200
Speaker 4: Top stayed in that room man and made sure that

881
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:32,680
Speaker 4: Jay Rock got in that video. Like that's what I

882
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:35,399
Speaker 4: mean about being relentless. Now, he didn't press nobody or nothing,

883
00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:37,239
Speaker 4: but he wasn't playing on games. You know, he was

884
00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:39,399
Speaker 4: gonna make sure he was gonna beat in that video.

885
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:42,160
Speaker 4: And I think everybody knew the Top wasn't playing no games.

886
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:45,920
Speaker 4: He wouldn't really. He didn't really talk crazy to nobody

887
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:46,279
Speaker 4: or nothing.

888
00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:47,080
Speaker 5: It was just presan.

889
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:51,160
Speaker 1: Look, I'll tell you this. My mama knew who he was.

890
00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:54,279
Speaker 3: I said, I told her the name, and she said,

891
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:58,319
Speaker 3: but say it again because she went to Carson Hyde

892
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:01,200
Speaker 3: and and and she and she was like, oh, I've

893
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:04,239
Speaker 3: known that name for a long time, but never have

894
00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:06,800
Speaker 3: I seen him except for that one situation where I

895
00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:08,000
Speaker 3: was out of I was out of you know, I

896
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:09,799
Speaker 3: was out of pocket, trying to go. I was listening

897
00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:12,360
Speaker 3: to apps, so you know, I knew better now, But

898
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:14,840
Speaker 3: I've never seen him have to raise his voice. I

899
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:17,040
Speaker 3: seen him in situations where he came into that room.

900
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:18,080
Speaker 1: I never forget.

901
00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:21,600
Speaker 3: It was one time where I was editing a video

902
00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:24,080
Speaker 3: and I think it was for something. They were asking me,

903
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:26,280
Speaker 3: ay Curtis because I knew I was good with technology.

904
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:28,520
Speaker 3: It was like, you know, how to convert videos or whatnot.

905
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:31,400
Speaker 3: And so I just told him what I knew. You know,

906
00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:33,520
Speaker 3: I didn't use Mac. And he was like, you're really

907
00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:34,520
Speaker 3: good with this computer shit.

908
00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:34,719
Speaker 5: Huh.

909
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:37,279
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, didn't have many words, but you

910
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:38,040
Speaker 1: knew damn well.

911
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:40,759
Speaker 3: Everybody in that room the energy shifted when he came

912
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:42,759
Speaker 3: in there because you know, like I said, he got

913
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:45,200
Speaker 3: a very serious demeanor. But at the same time, you

914
00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:48,480
Speaker 3: know that, you know, he had the foresight for what

915
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:49,400
Speaker 3: he wanted this thing to be.

916
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:50,279
Speaker 1: And look at it now.

917
00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:59,200
Speaker 4: Again, A dude, man, it's rough, and I don't believe

918
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:02,160
Speaker 4: say he just mean business. You feel what I'm saying.

919
00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:03,920
Speaker 4: He no play he' you know, fuck guy, you know

920
00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:06,759
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, No play play dude. He gave you

921
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:10,399
Speaker 4: a shirt off his back. Dog Yeah, Genie went, dude,

922
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:11,560
Speaker 4: he gave you a shirt off his back.

923
00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:11,759
Speaker 5: Man.

924
00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:13,680
Speaker 4: Now he that don't mean he lets you just you

925
00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:16,520
Speaker 4: get over on his ass either. But he looked out

926
00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:18,000
Speaker 4: for his people, you know what I'm saying. And he

927
00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:20,200
Speaker 4: Genie went about that. He's a Genie went on this dude.

928
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:22,719
Speaker 1: Yeah that that that that team.

929
00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:26,640
Speaker 3: You know, it's crazy because you know, Glasses got me

930
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:29,120
Speaker 3: my first paid placement. When I was over there, I

931
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:31,400
Speaker 3: wasn't looking for a paid placement. I was looking for

932
00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:35,160
Speaker 3: an opportunity to be heard. I was doing stuff locally

933
00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:37,799
Speaker 3: in Carson. I was trying to do like these open mics.

934
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:39,239
Speaker 3: I even did one of them. You know, I got

935
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:42,440
Speaker 3: scammed in one of those. Sell these hundred tickets and uh,

936
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:44,520
Speaker 3: you're gonna be in front of some A and rs

937
00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:45,800
Speaker 3: and all of that kind of situation.

938
00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:48,600
Speaker 1: I never forget. It was at the Key Club. I

939
00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:50,000
Speaker 1: went to the Key Club. I went up there.

940
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:52,279
Speaker 3: I seen everybody on stage with the bands and the lights.

941
00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:54,960
Speaker 3: I was like, always just gonna go up tonight, and

942
00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:57,120
Speaker 3: they was like you wrap. I was like yeah, they

943
00:40:57,160 --> 00:41:01,840
Speaker 3: said go downstairs. Huh, I go downstairs. It's a stage

944
00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:03,680
Speaker 3: that couldn't be no bigger than this table right here,

945
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:07,399
Speaker 3: and uh there's people moving dishes from room to room.

946
00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:12,240
Speaker 3: And so it's like, I know what it was before

947
00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:15,440
Speaker 3: I met them, and as they ascended. You know, Luckily

948
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:17,320
Speaker 3: I have my guy Apps, so I knew Apps sold

949
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:19,000
Speaker 3: before he was with TD, when he was with a

950
00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:21,319
Speaker 3: label called Street Beat, E and T. He was coming

951
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:24,000
Speaker 3: to my grandmother's patio to record songs with me because

952
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:26,120
Speaker 3: I was a producer that just had a lot of

953
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:29,080
Speaker 3: the same interests sonically as he did. And when I

954
00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:30,560
Speaker 3: listened to him, he see reminded me of a young

955
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:32,520
Speaker 3: jay Z and I said, if I get a chance

956
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:35,040
Speaker 3: to work with a young jay Z sounding artist, I

957
00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:35,680
Speaker 3: want to do that.

958
00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:36,839
Speaker 1: And that's what I did.

959
00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:38,600
Speaker 3: And so he was like when he first the first

960
00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:41,360
Speaker 3: day he got signed, he said, Curtis, give me a

961
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:45,040
Speaker 3: CD full of beats and I'm gonna floated around the studio.

962
00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:46,920
Speaker 1: I gave him a.

963
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:50,239
Speaker 3: CD full of beats low Ki, hoping that Jay Rock

964
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:51,800
Speaker 3: wanted one of them because he was the biggest artists

965
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:54,640
Speaker 3: at that time. He took that CD of beats. Little

966
00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:58,480
Speaker 3: did I know, one of the beasts, the first beats

967
00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:01,600
Speaker 3: that the Schoolboy Q rapped over was over a beat

968
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:03,640
Speaker 3: that I made on if you ever heard this story,

969
00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:05,799
Speaker 3: but it was a beat that had eight awaits and gunshots.

970
00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:09,959
Speaker 3: I was trying to like eighta waits and gunshots because

971
00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:11,840
Speaker 3: in my mind I was trying to like rekindle the

972
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:15,279
Speaker 3: Bone Thugs and Tupac song. I was like, I'm gonna

973
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:18,239
Speaker 3: make a newer version of that. It was terrible punch.

974
00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:19,680
Speaker 3: It tell you to this day, he like, they still

975
00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:22,120
Speaker 3: say it's terrible. But one thing school Boy said is

976
00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:26,359
Speaker 3: that audition, like he was already the homeeie, already around

977
00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:29,160
Speaker 3: the environment. That's when he showed off how he could rap.

978
00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:32,719
Speaker 3: And uh, that's what he rapped over was my beat.

979
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:34,640
Speaker 3: And so he was on shout out to my God,

980
00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:37,680
Speaker 3: Chuck Dizzle and head on home run radio. He said, man,

981
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:39,520
Speaker 3: the beat was terrible, but he's like gurt that you

982
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:41,960
Speaker 3: put me on, bro, Like, if it wasn't for you know,

983
00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:43,800
Speaker 3: if it wasn't for having that there, they wouldn't have

984
00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:46,400
Speaker 3: seen the skill set. I guess, you know, if you

985
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:48,759
Speaker 3: could make a bad beat sound that good, then he

986
00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:52,319
Speaker 3: must be something special. So I say that to say,

987
00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:55,320
Speaker 3: like them dudes, I didn't need to get paid for

988
00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:57,920
Speaker 3: any placements for that to be a life changing experience,

989
00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:01,560
Speaker 3: because I always knew Curtis King on Curtis Curtis King

990
00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:03,240
Speaker 3: gonna take care of Curtis King.

991
00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:06,600
Speaker 1: And all I needed was an opportunity and they gave that.

992
00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:07,279
Speaker 1: Tell me for sure.

993
00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:10,919
Speaker 6: Yeah, shout out to the homie punch over there, man,

994
00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:15,439
Speaker 6: punks punk Punch was my man. Yeah, that's my guy

995
00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:19,319
Speaker 6: right there, punc your tearans man. But I just think

996
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:23,400
Speaker 6: right now, I think where things gonna go?

997
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:23,759
Speaker 5: Man?

998
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:26,880
Speaker 4: Is everything? Industry seems like it kind of filters itself

999
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:30,160
Speaker 4: out every few years, like dashy, I want to talk

1000
00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:31,600
Speaker 4: about a lot of people don't know. You was with

1001
00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:35,759
Speaker 4: Cuban them early on. You was part of Lynch mind right.

1002
00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:37,840
Speaker 5: Yes, sir, one of the original members.

1003
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:41,400
Speaker 4: Oh wow, y'a al was over there. You're always doing

1004
00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:42,960
Speaker 4: a lot of recording with Jinks, wasn't y'all?

1005
00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:50,719
Speaker 5: Yeah? Yeah, over there with Jinks Pool. Yeah, it was us.

1006
00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:51,480
Speaker 5: It was a squad.

1007
00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:53,880
Speaker 4: How how old is y'all during the time period?

1008
00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:58,839
Speaker 7: Well, when when when you first like got cracking cracking? Yeah,

1009
00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:03,399
Speaker 7: it was about was about seventeen eighteen left he left

1010
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:05,280
Speaker 7: in w I think when he was around like nineteen.

1011
00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:09,600
Speaker 4: Okay, So y'all's loot key is pretty much y'all the

1012
00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:11,319
Speaker 4: same age as most of these little cats.

1013
00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:14,960
Speaker 3: All right, you know the points you about to make,

1014
00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:16,840
Speaker 3: all right to the points you about to Did you

1015
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:17,880
Speaker 3: notice the difference?

1016
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:18,160
Speaker 5: Broom?

1017
00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:21,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, because that's because seventeen year olds back then was

1018
00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:24,839
Speaker 3: grown in and the truest sense of it, like even

1019
00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:28,239
Speaker 3: the folks you consider knuckleheads had a decarm, they had

1020
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:28,760
Speaker 3: a cold.

1021
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:32,759
Speaker 1: Now with the internet, it's like, well I could ben

1022
00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:33,320
Speaker 1: that cold.

1023
00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:34,640
Speaker 5: What is cold? Really?

1024
00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:37,840
Speaker 3: They're questioning things, which is what kids do. Kids question

1025
00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:41,400
Speaker 3: the wisdom of their elders every single generation that happens.

1026
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:43,080
Speaker 1: This one is different.

1027
00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:46,600
Speaker 3: Because now you're getting justifications even when you're dead wrong

1028
00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:48,800
Speaker 3: from other people and strangers.

1029
00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:51,440
Speaker 1: That's saying that's not so crazy to do that. No,

1030
00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:54,360
Speaker 1: it still is crazy, but you're talking about.

1031
00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:58,440
Speaker 7: Man, it was new for us, Like you know, it

1032
00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:00,279
Speaker 7: was so new for us. We were still in all

1033
00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:02,279
Speaker 7: trying to figure it out. Right, Like, we didn't have

1034
00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:05,719
Speaker 7: we didn't have you know, we didn't have a blueprint.

1035
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:08,120
Speaker 7: We was the blueprint for West coast hip hop right,

1036
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:10,160
Speaker 7: we didn't have so we didn't go.

1037
00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:11,200
Speaker 5: We didn't go.

1038
00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:13,920
Speaker 7: We didn't have a TUPAC, we didn't have a NTA,

1039
00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:15,880
Speaker 7: we didn't have a glasses. We didn't you know what

1040
00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:16,239
Speaker 7: I'm saying.

1041
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:19,359
Speaker 5: We didn't have. So we had to figure that out

1042
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:21,360
Speaker 5: on our own. And figuring that out we had to,

1043
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:23,520
Speaker 5: like like my man just said, we had to grow up.

1044
00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:26,080
Speaker 7: We had to go, Okay, what are we doing, Let's

1045
00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:28,359
Speaker 7: make sure we do this right because the money was right,

1046
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:30,600
Speaker 7: everything was looking right, everything felt good.

1047
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:32,960
Speaker 5: So we wanted to keep that going. So that's what

1048
00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:34,560
Speaker 5: made us stay on top of our game.

1049
00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:37,040
Speaker 1: Look, you know what's so crazy about you saying that?

1050
00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:38,640
Speaker 1: And I'm just realizing that right now.

1051
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:42,680
Speaker 3: One of the most genius marketing plans I've ever heard

1052
00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:46,319
Speaker 3: of in hip hop was for uh, I forget the song.

1053
00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:49,719
Speaker 3: But I was told by some some radio person now

1054
00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:52,759
Speaker 3: that he's that cube was sitting around. You can't do

1055
00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:55,279
Speaker 3: that now because of the anthrape scares. But it was

1056
00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:56,920
Speaker 3: a bag of it, wasn't it like a bag of

1057
00:45:57,000 --> 00:45:59,600
Speaker 3: like powder or something. And he had like a set

1058
00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:01,840
Speaker 3: and some out of it. Because it's talking about the

1059
00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:04,080
Speaker 3: same era where you know they were doing like the

1060
00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:08,239
Speaker 3: Craig Mac Big Mac situation, Like that level of ingenuity,

1061
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:10,640
Speaker 3: that level of creativity where you're using the same skill

1062
00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:12,759
Speaker 3: set you got to make a beat, that you got

1063
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:14,920
Speaker 3: to make a song, and you're putting that into your marketing.

1064
00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:17,560
Speaker 3: It's a lot of kids who never had to like

1065
00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:20,480
Speaker 3: build nothing, they never had to create nothing. I'm like,

1066
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:24,280
Speaker 3: that's your cheat cod You literally make a living being creative,

1067
00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:26,640
Speaker 3: and then when it comes to your marketing on social media,

1068
00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:27,920
Speaker 3: you're the least creative.

1069
00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:31,239
Speaker 5: Yes, I mean that's when we talk about that.

1070
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:34,480
Speaker 7: When the creativity ain't there, now, the anti's gotta take

1071
00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:35,640
Speaker 7: that place, you feel me.

1072
00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:37,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the low hanging through.

1073
00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:39,080
Speaker 3: But the crazy thing about it is now an audience's

1074
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:42,120
Speaker 3: uh is turned away from that, and you gotta do

1075
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:43,000
Speaker 3: another magic trick?

1076
00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:43,600
Speaker 1: What you're gonna do?

1077
00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:43,879
Speaker 7: Yeah?

1078
00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:46,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, they getting tired? Brother, I totally agree.

1079
00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:49,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, And what happens is more than that, dude, the

1080
00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:52,920
Speaker 4: level of insanity kind of goes up. So if you

1081
00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:55,160
Speaker 4: got to do this last there is a guy online.

1082
00:46:55,160 --> 00:46:57,720
Speaker 4: He's picking the boogets out of his nose and nastally

1083
00:46:57,719 --> 00:47:01,239
Speaker 4: he's gonna start eating the motherfuckers right right, and people

1084
00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:03,640
Speaker 4: go start tripping over that next thing, you know, when

1085
00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:05,840
Speaker 4: they get bored with that. There's no telling him what

1086
00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:08,800
Speaker 4: he's gonna be doing next. He might start digging in

1087
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:11,160
Speaker 4: the crack, you know, whatever, man doing that whatever.

1088
00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:13,680
Speaker 3: But you know that in a way, right, you know,

1089
00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:15,319
Speaker 3: that's a real thing that you just said right now.

1090
00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:16,520
Speaker 3: And I know you were making that up, but you

1091
00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:18,560
Speaker 3: know that's so real. It's a it's a young dude

1092
00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:20,680
Speaker 3: called piss Man. You heard about him.

1093
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:23,000
Speaker 4: I ain't heard about it, but it don't surprise me.

1094
00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:23,200
Speaker 5: Bro.

1095
00:47:23,600 --> 00:47:24,960
Speaker 1: I don't want to give you too much details. I

1096
00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:26,200
Speaker 1: don't even want you to have to look it up

1097
00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:29,360
Speaker 1: because it's it's it's it's insane, but it's like that's.

1098
00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:31,160
Speaker 3: What you talk what y'are talking about, that is the

1099
00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:34,080
Speaker 3: levels of what we're talking about is that he's literally

1100
00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:37,000
Speaker 3: got a following about how nasty he is inside his house,

1101
00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:41,920
Speaker 3: how junky his house is, how like unlivable his house is,

1102
00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:44,879
Speaker 3: and he's doing live streams in his house, and people

1103
00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:46,440
Speaker 3: are coming to visit him to see if they can

1104
00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:49,960
Speaker 3: spend the night there. I'm like this, like people on

1105
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:53,160
Speaker 3: this platform don't not on his platform, but he got

1106
00:47:53,239 --> 00:47:55,480
Speaker 3: somebody who had a million to come on his platform.

1107
00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:57,800
Speaker 3: And uh, I don't know if his name is actually

1108
00:47:57,920 --> 00:47:59,719
Speaker 3: you know his name is piss Man, but like his

1109
00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:04,880
Speaker 3: whole thing is like he does tricks with cartons and piss. Like,

1110
00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:08,480
Speaker 3: as I say it out loud, I feel crazy, but

1111
00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:10,480
Speaker 3: not as crazy as as it. I'm just saying, we're

1112
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:12,520
Speaker 3: in the time period where even when you're joking about that,

1113
00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:14,120
Speaker 3: it's a kid right now, that's.

1114
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:17,239
Speaker 1: Like picking my bug is eating them. That's not a

1115
00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:17,840
Speaker 1: bad idea.

1116
00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:21,880
Speaker 4: That's how bad it is, man, Because I'm anna tell you,

1117
00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:24,000
Speaker 4: and I told I told Jcus g was on this

1118
00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:26,840
Speaker 4: internet step early, yeah, when they had the girl with

1119
00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:28,920
Speaker 4: It's So Cold and the d and all them different

1120
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:30,880
Speaker 4: people and the riffs and all the different people was

1121
00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:33,120
Speaker 4: on the internet. She was on the early And I

1122
00:48:33,239 --> 00:48:35,160
Speaker 4: told him, I said, Man, you really sitting in there

1123
00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:37,879
Speaker 4: there giving this old silly shit in an audience. It's

1124
00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:40,239
Speaker 4: somebody to wind up killing somebody on the internet one day,

1125
00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:42,840
Speaker 4: I say, And it happened that dude in Cleveland was

1126
00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:45,040
Speaker 4: just going around shooting people on the Internet. You got

1127
00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:47,560
Speaker 4: stuff that's so crazy. Now, man, it's like I'm gonna

1128
00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:49,840
Speaker 4: tell you, somebody's gonna get wet next to a podcast

1129
00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:55,200
Speaker 4: on the podcast. I'm gonna tell you this time it's coming, man,

1130
00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:59,879
Speaker 4: because right now this generation, man, see, when you don't

1131
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:02,400
Speaker 4: have no talent, you got to think a little different stuff.

1132
00:49:02,680 --> 00:49:04,239
Speaker 4: If me and Sax wanted to come on here and

1133
00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:06,960
Speaker 4: make beats and rap, we could do that. Yeah, we

1134
00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:08,920
Speaker 4: could all redo that right now. I could be over

1135
00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:11,080
Speaker 4: here putting a drum thing together because all of us

1136
00:49:11,120 --> 00:49:12,680
Speaker 4: got to put me right in front of us right now.

1137
00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:15,200
Speaker 4: I could be putting a drum fad together. We can

1138
00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:18,560
Speaker 4: all spit right a hot sixteen. These other cats can't

1139
00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:20,600
Speaker 4: do that. Man, they can't edit enohing. They don't have

1140
00:49:20,719 --> 00:49:24,040
Speaker 4: the patience and fortitude to think of anything. And people,

1141
00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:26,759
Speaker 4: you know this, One cat told me one day, he said, Man,

1142
00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:30,319
Speaker 4: don't nobody care. Still, your podcast is boring. I say,

1143
00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:32,480
Speaker 4: my podcast for you because you go listen to all

1144
00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:35,080
Speaker 4: the other stupida shit, I said, a my podcast is

1145
00:49:35,120 --> 00:49:36,000
Speaker 4: too intelligence for you.

1146
00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:37,520
Speaker 1: Pretty much.

1147
00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:40,520
Speaker 3: Well, and this is what I say, Like right now,

1148
00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:43,320
Speaker 3: there's a lot of those those toxic, toxic podcasts, and

1149
00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:44,840
Speaker 3: I have a question for y'all too. I want to

1150
00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:48,120
Speaker 3: ask specifically, but because I asked you this question last week,

1151
00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:51,320
Speaker 3: and I'm curious, but there's a lot of podcasts with

1152
00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:53,960
Speaker 3: like really really, all they do is just do stories

1153
00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:57,760
Speaker 3: about people's worst days. All they do is stories about

1154
00:49:57,840 --> 00:49:59,919
Speaker 3: people on their worst days, and they make an audi

1155
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:01,520
Speaker 3: inside of all of that, and.

1156
00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:04,320
Speaker 1: There's no regret for it.

1157
00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:06,600
Speaker 3: They find their self doing it, and then when the

1158
00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:09,160
Speaker 3: tables turn on them, you know, they get very defensive

1159
00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:11,440
Speaker 3: because they can't handle the pressure they give to other people.

1160
00:50:12,040 --> 00:50:14,759
Speaker 1: But with that said, the question I got for you

1161
00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:21,400
Speaker 1: is this coming up. I came up in many different environments.

1162
00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:23,160
Speaker 3: Matter of fact, my mommy we used to live in

1163
00:50:23,200 --> 00:50:26,759
Speaker 3: the house off of a fifty fourth in Hoper in

1164
00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:28,920
Speaker 3: La by Saint.

1165
00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:35,000
Speaker 1: Peter's Rock and my mom's used to play the keys there.

1166
00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:39,000
Speaker 1: I was brought up around a lot lot of street culture.

1167
00:50:39,840 --> 00:50:42,600
Speaker 3: I got my street smarts even though like I didn't

1168
00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:45,120
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, I didn't graduate nowhere, but

1169
00:50:45,160 --> 00:50:46,680
Speaker 3: I got them for a reason to know how to

1170
00:50:46,719 --> 00:50:50,080
Speaker 3: handle myself in environments I got a question coming up.

1171
00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:53,560
Speaker 3: There were certain names that would never get brought up

1172
00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:56,160
Speaker 3: unless you was in the same circle. Every day I

1173
00:50:56,239 --> 00:50:59,800
Speaker 3: get on YouTube, it's another one of them names getting mentioned.

1174
00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:04,960
Speaker 3: It's street politics that used to be only internal that's

1175
00:51:05,040 --> 00:51:09,560
Speaker 3: now left open to a white dude from Ohio to

1176
00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:15,120
Speaker 3: instigate right or a podcast or to comment on. Do

1177
00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:19,359
Speaker 3: y'all feel like it was a mistake for because it's

1178
00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:22,440
Speaker 3: good to see voices get platform because you given awareness

1179
00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:24,759
Speaker 3: to like this is what real, this is what the

1180
00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:26,840
Speaker 3: real is is like, stop listening to these rappers, this

1181
00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:29,359
Speaker 3: is what's really going on. But at the same time,

1182
00:51:29,560 --> 00:51:32,720
Speaker 3: a lot of folks kind of made themselves targets because

1183
00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:35,520
Speaker 3: now you broadcasting in front of a lot of people

1184
00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:38,160
Speaker 3: politics that TheInk got nothing to do with.

1185
00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:43,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that, Like you said, it was a

1186
00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:45,400
Speaker 4: time that you didn't speaking on certain stuff, like we

1187
00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:48,680
Speaker 4: got a homy right now. Man, it's fighting for his

1188
00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:52,800
Speaker 4: life right now. Often because of all the antics, you know,

1189
00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:55,600
Speaker 4: because of all the antics z on, you know from

1190
00:51:55,640 --> 00:51:58,560
Speaker 4: this whole podcast world right, people just say stuff because

1191
00:51:58,560 --> 00:51:59,680
Speaker 4: they ain't no accountability.

1192
00:51:59,719 --> 00:51:59,839
Speaker 5: Bro.

1193
00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:02,240
Speaker 4: Back in the day when we was in the business,

1194
00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:05,640
Speaker 4: you was running somebody. You had to go outside. It

1195
00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:07,920
Speaker 4: wasn't no it wasn't no marketing on the internet. You

1196
00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:10,600
Speaker 4: had to go to one of the industry parties, you

1197
00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:12,520
Speaker 4: had to go do shows, you had to go places.

1198
00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:14,200
Speaker 4: You was run into somebody. If you was out here

1199
00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:17,160
Speaker 4: talking slick, you was going for sure running somebody. Now

1200
00:52:17,239 --> 00:52:19,719
Speaker 4: it ain't that dog. It's people that talk crazy to me.

1201
00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:22,600
Speaker 1: I'll never see bro, that's crazy. That's crazy.

1202
00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:26,320
Speaker 4: They don't go outside. And I'm gonna tell you this,

1203
00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:29,359
Speaker 4: there's no accountability. I'm gonna tell you something. I saw

1204
00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:33,080
Speaker 4: a dude man sit online and say he chased me

1205
00:52:33,160 --> 00:52:37,040
Speaker 4: around the studio with a studio with a microphone and

1206
00:52:37,719 --> 00:52:39,560
Speaker 4: he threw me in the closet and tied me up

1207
00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:40,480
Speaker 4: on all kinds of stuff.

1208
00:52:41,840 --> 00:52:43,000
Speaker 1: He said a podcast.

1209
00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:48,160
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, dude, around sixty years old, and just people

1210
00:52:48,239 --> 00:52:52,640
Speaker 4: would say and do anything, bro, because there's no accountability

1211
00:52:52,719 --> 00:52:54,759
Speaker 4: to it. They're not going to see me. I can't

1212
00:52:54,800 --> 00:52:57,279
Speaker 4: reach through the screen and grab y'all right now. But

1213
00:52:57,360 --> 00:52:58,840
Speaker 4: I sit up there and type all this shit I

1214
00:52:58,920 --> 00:53:01,120
Speaker 4: want to. I can go in in and the food. Yeah,

1215
00:53:02,800 --> 00:53:03,080
Speaker 4: right now.

1216
00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:06,000
Speaker 1: That accountability, this is where I'm like.

1217
00:53:06,040 --> 00:53:07,759
Speaker 3: People will be surprised to hear me say this, but

1218
00:53:07,800 --> 00:53:10,200
Speaker 3: I'm like that accountability comes from getting punched in the face.

1219
00:53:11,080 --> 00:53:13,800
Speaker 3: You gotta fill that pain when you know, like, damn it,

1220
00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:15,759
Speaker 3: do I really want to deal with these heavy hands

1221
00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:18,040
Speaker 3: coming at me from this person that I think is

1222
00:53:18,120 --> 00:53:21,480
Speaker 3: okay to troll. And you remember having the ice down

1223
00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:23,920
Speaker 3: the eye, You remember having the like get over the

1224
00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:25,560
Speaker 3: aches and pains and all of this stuff, Like you

1225
00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:28,680
Speaker 3: gotta remember the embarrassment of getting your ass whatever the case. Like,

1226
00:53:29,120 --> 00:53:32,800
Speaker 3: there's folks who've never been touched before, and I have

1227
00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:36,000
Speaker 3: to remind myself there are people who will push every

1228
00:53:36,120 --> 00:53:38,840
Speaker 3: single button because they know that I'm a man that

1229
00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:42,239
Speaker 3: has integrity and has my own cold They'll push every

1230
00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:45,240
Speaker 3: button they can, but if I ever press the issue,

1231
00:53:45,840 --> 00:53:46,760
Speaker 3: they'll call the police.

1232
00:53:46,840 --> 00:53:48,279
Speaker 1: Like a cold doesn't exist.

1233
00:53:48,560 --> 00:53:50,040
Speaker 5: Many a heartbeat, brother.

1234
00:53:50,640 --> 00:53:52,600
Speaker 1: And that's wowed to me because I'm like, why are

1235
00:53:52,600 --> 00:53:55,200
Speaker 1: you woofing it? Why you why are you barking so loud?

1236
00:53:56,160 --> 00:53:59,040
Speaker 3: And then the moment that somebody presses you all of

1237
00:53:59,080 --> 00:54:01,799
Speaker 3: a sudden, it's is it's I'm a victim. Why are

1238
00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:04,400
Speaker 3: you so obsessed with me? And that's just literally the

1239
00:54:04,520 --> 00:54:06,200
Speaker 3: nature of the Internet that I'll be telling you. When

1240
00:54:06,239 --> 00:54:09,360
Speaker 3: I first came here, I was a lot more confrontational

1241
00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:11,440
Speaker 3: because I didn't get that some kids get on here,

1242
00:54:12,080 --> 00:54:13,759
Speaker 3: and not even kids, some adults get on here and

1243
00:54:13,840 --> 00:54:16,480
Speaker 3: think everything's a game. They can say what they want,

1244
00:54:17,480 --> 00:54:19,719
Speaker 3: get a few retweets, and then you move on to

1245
00:54:19,760 --> 00:54:21,840
Speaker 3: the next thing. And I'm like, no, that, if I

1246
00:54:21,960 --> 00:54:23,960
Speaker 3: see you, we gotta we have to address that. At

1247
00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:26,320
Speaker 3: the very least, we gotta talk to you.

1248
00:54:26,400 --> 00:54:28,359
Speaker 5: Know What's you know what's funny about that too?

1249
00:54:28,520 --> 00:54:28,680
Speaker 3: Man?

1250
00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:33,080
Speaker 7: It's like you know that saying if you if you

1251
00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:38,680
Speaker 7: love a star, never meet them because you'll always get disappointed.

1252
00:54:38,760 --> 00:54:41,080
Speaker 5: Right. It's the same thing with a lot of these

1253
00:54:41,120 --> 00:54:46,759
Speaker 5: Internet bangers and gangsters. Man like they they they went

1254
00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:49,040
Speaker 5: the business all day. I give a lot of these

1255
00:54:49,120 --> 00:54:52,040
Speaker 5: cats that I that I deal with. They with the business.

1256
00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:55,600
Speaker 5: But on the other side of that, their sensitive thugs.

1257
00:54:56,400 --> 00:54:59,920
Speaker 5: I've seen. I've seen thugs. I've seen so called gangsters.

1258
00:54:59,520 --> 00:55:03,600
Speaker 7: On their shows preaching you know, I peace. I'm not

1259
00:55:03,719 --> 00:55:07,440
Speaker 7: trying to do no drama. I love everybody. Everybody loved me.

1260
00:55:07,840 --> 00:55:11,640
Speaker 7: But soon as somebody hit that trigger for them back,

1261
00:55:11,960 --> 00:55:12,360
Speaker 7: they ain't on.

1262
00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:14,440
Speaker 1: My must y'all, ain't I.

1263
00:55:15,600 --> 00:55:17,640
Speaker 5: I'm like, man, you're telling on yourself right now.

1264
00:55:17,640 --> 00:55:19,760
Speaker 7: And what are you doing?

1265
00:55:19,960 --> 00:55:20,200
Speaker 5: Brother?

1266
00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:21,880
Speaker 1: You crashing out in front of people that.

1267
00:55:23,360 --> 00:55:23,799
Speaker 5: Crash out?

1268
00:55:24,040 --> 00:55:26,440
Speaker 3: What you internet crashing out, that's a different crash out,

1269
00:55:26,440 --> 00:55:29,440
Speaker 3: but in crashing out in front of people.

1270
00:55:29,480 --> 00:55:31,919
Speaker 1: Who don't look like us real talk.

1271
00:55:32,280 --> 00:55:34,080
Speaker 7: And that's why a lot of the so called people

1272
00:55:34,520 --> 00:55:37,200
Speaker 7: caught up in these things they dealing with right now,

1273
00:55:37,320 --> 00:55:38,600
Speaker 7: with these week olds right now.

1274
00:55:39,120 --> 00:55:39,759
Speaker 1: I hate to see it.

1275
00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:41,239
Speaker 3: I hate to see it because, like I said, it's

1276
00:55:41,239 --> 00:55:43,320
Speaker 3: certain names that got brought up, and even in the

1277
00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:45,680
Speaker 3: rooms that got brought up, it was hush, hush. I

1278
00:55:47,640 --> 00:55:49,359
Speaker 3: never think of my life time I would see these

1279
00:55:49,480 --> 00:55:51,840
Speaker 3: names be all over the news and all that I'm like,

1280
00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:52,560
Speaker 3: it's all.

1281
00:55:52,480 --> 00:55:54,840
Speaker 1: Of a podcast and it's still mind blowing me. And

1282
00:55:54,880 --> 00:55:55,560
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, go ahead.

1283
00:55:55,920 --> 00:55:57,960
Speaker 4: I'm gonna tell you something, man. I knew it was

1284
00:55:57,960 --> 00:56:00,520
Speaker 4: gonna be problems as soon as Big You got a podcast. Yes, man,

1285
00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:04,759
Speaker 4: I just knew it. Now the man Big You was

1286
00:56:04,840 --> 00:56:08,360
Speaker 4: my man. It's my guy right there. But I just

1287
00:56:08,440 --> 00:56:11,360
Speaker 4: knew it was gonna be problems because you always have somebody.

1288
00:56:11,440 --> 00:56:14,440
Speaker 4: And I'm gonna tell you something, man, It's something about

1289
00:56:14,520 --> 00:56:17,400
Speaker 4: the allure of being the top dog in the streets

1290
00:56:18,239 --> 00:56:21,279
Speaker 4: that just black men lose their mind. For if you

1291
00:56:21,400 --> 00:56:24,400
Speaker 4: ask the average young black dude come up in the community,

1292
00:56:24,440 --> 00:56:28,040
Speaker 4: what would he rather have a successful career in medicine

1293
00:56:28,239 --> 00:56:31,520
Speaker 4: or long you know mediciners, you know, doing something else?

1294
00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:33,560
Speaker 4: Or would you rather be the odes of the hood?

1295
00:56:33,719 --> 00:56:35,560
Speaker 4: Just the king of the hood. They'll tell you the

1296
00:56:35,640 --> 00:56:36,279
Speaker 4: king of the hood.

1297
00:56:36,800 --> 00:56:38,719
Speaker 1: Why do you think that is?

1298
00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:43,000
Speaker 4: It's just what they see, and it's a certain It's

1299
00:56:43,080 --> 00:56:45,040
Speaker 4: almost like when I was a little kid growing up

1300
00:56:45,080 --> 00:56:48,120
Speaker 4: on the East side, right, if I saw a cat

1301
00:56:48,160 --> 00:56:50,520
Speaker 4: in the corner with a cadillact man or a deuce

1302
00:56:50,600 --> 00:56:52,759
Speaker 4: in the quarter man had a not full of money

1303
00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:55,759
Speaker 4: in his pocket and a bad broad man. In my

1304
00:56:55,960 --> 00:56:58,360
Speaker 4: young mind, I'm thinking he lived life. I don't know

1305
00:56:58,480 --> 00:57:01,160
Speaker 4: what kind of penitentiary chance sound because I don't see

1306
00:57:01,200 --> 00:57:02,920
Speaker 4: all that. I don't see the other side of it, right,

1307
00:57:03,480 --> 00:57:05,560
Speaker 4: I just see him right there, relation in the truth

1308
00:57:05,600 --> 00:57:08,200
Speaker 4: of his labor. Right, and I'm like, damn, man, that

1309
00:57:08,320 --> 00:57:10,120
Speaker 4: sounded like fly. I'm gonna tell you something. Man, you

1310
00:57:10,200 --> 00:57:12,200
Speaker 4: want to come to California from the East Coats, right,

1311
00:57:13,200 --> 00:57:17,439
Speaker 4: Not these coats, but the midwestern Cleveland. Right. I heard

1312
00:57:17,880 --> 00:57:21,400
Speaker 4: Ice Tea's album with him Darlene on the cover, you

1313
00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:27,760
Speaker 4: know you were in him with the strap, and I said, man,

1314
00:57:27,920 --> 00:57:29,920
Speaker 4: I want a suit like that. Man, I want a

1315
00:57:29,960 --> 00:57:32,959
Speaker 4: little ouzy chain like that. I want a bad bitch

1316
00:57:33,040 --> 00:57:35,080
Speaker 4: by my side. Man. I didn't know what Darlene or

1317
00:57:35,160 --> 00:57:37,320
Speaker 4: Tease was, but I was like, I want that.

1318
00:57:37,480 --> 00:57:37,640
Speaker 5: Man.

1319
00:57:37,720 --> 00:57:39,960
Speaker 4: When I tell you, the tonge steaks life and death.

1320
00:57:40,240 --> 00:57:45,600
Speaker 4: When I tell you sometime later, I had me a

1321
00:57:45,720 --> 00:57:51,160
Speaker 4: bad bro a bad woman like that's my wife now, right.

1322
00:57:52,680 --> 00:57:55,240
Speaker 4: I got my cash ups started, you know, wearing little suits.

1323
00:57:55,240 --> 00:57:57,080
Speaker 4: I had a suit like Ice Tea and I just

1324
00:57:57,160 --> 00:57:59,400
Speaker 4: got I just found one maybe five years ago. Sex

1325
00:57:59,480 --> 00:58:01,520
Speaker 4: When I rest, he was like, now what you're getting there.

1326
00:58:01,560 --> 00:58:01,680
Speaker 5: Old.

1327
00:58:01,720 --> 00:58:03,760
Speaker 4: I say, hey, man, this personal to me right here.

1328
00:58:04,320 --> 00:58:05,480
Speaker 1: I always want one of those.

1329
00:58:05,640 --> 00:58:08,520
Speaker 4: Right, But you can speak whatever your existence is to

1330
00:58:08,640 --> 00:58:12,640
Speaker 4: exist into reality. Right. I see cats put curses on

1331
00:58:12,680 --> 00:58:14,920
Speaker 4: themself every day online. Like you said, talk about the

1332
00:58:14,920 --> 00:58:17,640
Speaker 4: homies is crash. Now I'm gonna do this. They just

1333
00:58:17,760 --> 00:58:20,840
Speaker 4: drawing all that bad energy to them. Somebody greeting me

1334
00:58:20,960 --> 00:58:22,720
Speaker 4: with bad energy. Dog, I don't have nothing to say

1335
00:58:22,760 --> 00:58:24,600
Speaker 4: to them. You can say whatever else you want to

1336
00:58:24,680 --> 00:58:25,040
Speaker 4: about me.

1337
00:58:27,040 --> 00:58:29,880
Speaker 1: Yes, real talk, And I'm telling I try to tell them.

1338
00:58:29,840 --> 00:58:33,120
Speaker 4: And I'm gonna tell you this, dog, I don't been

1339
00:58:33,160 --> 00:58:34,720
Speaker 4: in the streets out here with the best stuff.

1340
00:58:35,440 --> 00:58:35,560
Speaker 5: Right.

1341
00:58:36,160 --> 00:58:38,800
Speaker 4: I could do all that and more, but I choose

1342
00:58:38,920 --> 00:58:41,360
Speaker 4: not to because it ain't I don't have to prove myself.

1343
00:58:41,920 --> 00:58:42,720
Speaker 5: I don't have to.

1344
00:58:44,480 --> 00:58:48,480
Speaker 4: I don't have to perform stupid place my masculinity. You

1345
00:58:48,520 --> 00:58:49,200
Speaker 4: feel what I'm saying.

1346
00:58:49,640 --> 00:58:49,880
Speaker 5: I don't.

1347
00:58:50,600 --> 00:58:52,160
Speaker 4: I don't have to crash. I don't do stuff to

1348
00:58:52,240 --> 00:58:54,120
Speaker 4: prove stuff to myself because I don't have nothing proved

1349
00:58:54,160 --> 00:58:59,240
Speaker 4: to myself. I don't care about all that, dog want

1350
00:58:59,400 --> 00:58:59,920
Speaker 4: look out here.

1351
00:59:00,960 --> 00:59:02,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, what I was gonna say is that the thing

1352
00:59:02,920 --> 00:59:05,320
Speaker 3: that makes is so dangerous and I think even probably

1353
00:59:06,440 --> 00:59:10,480
Speaker 3: more Lauren, is that here you got a bunch of

1354
00:59:10,560 --> 00:59:16,560
Speaker 3: faceless cheerleaders that are giving you rewards for acting that

1355
00:59:16,680 --> 00:59:21,120
Speaker 3: complete ass, like for acting way out of character you getting.

1356
00:59:21,320 --> 00:59:23,600
Speaker 1: They're like, oh man, he going crazy right now.

1357
00:59:23,720 --> 00:59:26,280
Speaker 3: Oh we gonna not not only are we gonna cheer

1358
00:59:26,360 --> 00:59:29,040
Speaker 3: it on, we're gonna clip this podcast and we're gonna

1359
00:59:29,080 --> 00:59:29,920
Speaker 3: send it to the other one.

1360
00:59:29,960 --> 00:59:31,760
Speaker 1: I had somebody that's it.

1361
00:59:32,040 --> 00:59:34,240
Speaker 3: I don't don't my crash outs online to be a

1362
00:59:34,280 --> 00:59:36,880
Speaker 3: lot different because I don't be emotionally involved in this situation.

1363
00:59:36,920 --> 00:59:38,840
Speaker 3: But people say some crazy shit about me, and every

1364
00:59:38,840 --> 00:59:41,360
Speaker 3: once in a while I gotta remind them, like dog,

1365
00:59:41,440 --> 00:59:43,720
Speaker 3: don't don't like, don't let the thumbnails fuck you up,

1366
00:59:43,840 --> 00:59:45,720
Speaker 3: like I'm not like I'm I'm I have.

1367
00:59:45,920 --> 00:59:48,000
Speaker 1: It took me a long time to become this kind.

1368
00:59:49,840 --> 00:59:53,520
Speaker 3: I've had my situations, and I realize there are people

1369
00:59:53,560 --> 00:59:57,080
Speaker 3: who sit online chronically online that will take what you

1370
00:59:57,200 --> 01:00:01,720
Speaker 3: said out of context, run to the next person and say, yo,

1371
01:00:01,760 --> 01:00:03,440
Speaker 3: I think he might be talking about you.

1372
01:00:04,720 --> 01:00:04,880
Speaker 1: Now.

1373
01:00:05,000 --> 01:00:06,960
Speaker 3: All of a sudden, this person is trying to make

1374
01:00:07,000 --> 01:00:09,440
Speaker 3: themselves the center of my world, the center of my

1375
01:00:09,520 --> 01:00:13,080
Speaker 3: attention because of what this acd this little person said,

1376
01:00:13,360 --> 01:00:17,520
Speaker 3: and they get to disappear. So I think the cheerleader,

1377
01:00:17,560 --> 01:00:20,280
Speaker 3: I think that the instigating where it's not even sometimes

1378
01:00:20,400 --> 01:00:22,800
Speaker 3: just the people. You gotta take accountability for your emotions.

1379
01:00:22,840 --> 01:00:27,160
Speaker 3: But we know the internet was made to trigger emotions

1380
01:00:27,240 --> 01:00:29,919
Speaker 3: that keep us on the internet longer. That's the less

1381
01:00:29,960 --> 01:00:32,520
Speaker 3: the DNA of Instagram, the DNA of Facebook.

1382
01:00:32,560 --> 01:00:32,960
Speaker 1: YouTube.

1383
01:00:33,200 --> 01:00:35,080
Speaker 3: That's why I don't care what you into. I'm into

1384
01:00:35,520 --> 01:00:38,200
Speaker 3: My Lakers is my favorite thing, right. They know how

1385
01:00:38,240 --> 01:00:40,520
Speaker 3: to keep me on YouTube, past past, when I want to,

1386
01:00:40,640 --> 01:00:43,600
Speaker 3: when I want to stay away, they just keep feeding

1387
01:00:43,640 --> 01:00:46,080
Speaker 3: me up shit. So what that said, I think the

1388
01:00:46,160 --> 01:00:48,000
Speaker 3: same thing is happening. And I think a lot of

1389
01:00:48,040 --> 01:00:51,680
Speaker 3: these brothers don't realize how much of a mental warfare

1390
01:00:52,480 --> 01:00:55,480
Speaker 3: it has been put upon them, and how their algorithm

1391
01:00:55,600 --> 01:00:59,880
Speaker 3: is literally designed for their destruction. But then some of

1392
01:00:59,920 --> 01:01:02,760
Speaker 3: the and that also was them watching destruction and the

1393
01:01:02,840 --> 01:01:04,680
Speaker 3: algorithm saying, okay, you want more of that.

1394
01:01:05,160 --> 01:01:05,640
Speaker 5: I got you.

1395
01:01:07,000 --> 01:01:09,880
Speaker 4: You see what it is now? Man, People really getting

1396
01:01:09,880 --> 01:01:12,600
Speaker 4: themselves in a lot of trouble on this computer talking man.

1397
01:01:13,680 --> 01:01:18,160
Speaker 4: And that's the thing. When you have through confidence in yourself, man,

1398
01:01:18,240 --> 01:01:21,920
Speaker 4: and you have good self esteem, you don't concern yourself

1399
01:01:22,000 --> 01:01:25,040
Speaker 4: with the activities of just these peons. It's like, Man,

1400
01:01:25,440 --> 01:01:28,919
Speaker 4: my grandfather used to have a saying, man lines, don't

1401
01:01:28,920 --> 01:01:30,200
Speaker 4: associate with hyenas.

1402
01:01:31,680 --> 01:01:32,440
Speaker 1: I definitely heard that.

1403
01:01:32,600 --> 01:01:34,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, you feel what I'm saying. So it's like, man,

1404
01:01:34,760 --> 01:01:37,000
Speaker 4: I never felt the need to go back to somebody

1405
01:01:37,400 --> 01:01:39,760
Speaker 4: and prove myself all Man, he said this about me

1406
01:01:39,840 --> 01:01:41,800
Speaker 4: and my bother man. First of all, I'm not trying

1407
01:01:41,840 --> 01:01:43,960
Speaker 4: to go see it for nobody's jail, because see, I'm

1408
01:01:43,960 --> 01:01:46,200
Speaker 4: gonna tell you I'm one of them guys that's probably

1409
01:01:46,240 --> 01:01:49,360
Speaker 4: willing to take stuff a little bit further than what

1410
01:01:49,480 --> 01:01:51,440
Speaker 4: you think is though. Go gos. I don't bother nobody.

1411
01:01:51,520 --> 01:01:53,880
Speaker 4: So if you can feed my peace of mind and

1412
01:01:54,000 --> 01:01:56,240
Speaker 4: I feel my family is in dangerous something like that,

1413
01:01:56,280 --> 01:01:58,760
Speaker 4: I'm gonna take stuff to another fiction level that you

1414
01:01:58,880 --> 01:02:01,080
Speaker 4: might not want to. I know that about myself, so

1415
01:02:01,160 --> 01:02:03,480
Speaker 4: I don't even engage because it's not worth it.

1416
01:02:04,440 --> 01:02:07,160
Speaker 3: You know my new favorite saying, because somebody tried me

1417
01:02:07,320 --> 01:02:10,560
Speaker 3: like that recently and he found out. He found out

1418
01:02:10,600 --> 01:02:12,000
Speaker 3: how much I know how to use the internet too,

1419
01:02:12,000 --> 01:02:13,440
Speaker 3: because he got a bigger platform than me, and he

1420
01:02:13,560 --> 01:02:17,880
Speaker 3: tried it, and he he didn't realize how many enemies

1421
01:02:17,920 --> 01:02:20,320
Speaker 3: he had made throughout, throughout, throughout, throughout the years. I'm

1422
01:02:20,320 --> 01:02:23,880
Speaker 3: not a've gonna bring him up, but I say, leave quiet,

1423
01:02:24,000 --> 01:02:28,200
Speaker 3: loud people alone. I'm loud on my platform. It's my platform.

1424
01:02:28,600 --> 01:02:30,840
Speaker 3: I talk about a lot of things going on in

1425
01:02:30,960 --> 01:02:33,240
Speaker 3: hip hop because I'm passionate about it and because I've

1426
01:02:33,320 --> 01:02:36,240
Speaker 3: done it. I'm I'm an independent artist. I call myself

1427
01:02:36,280 --> 01:02:39,440
Speaker 3: a di I wire right, I do it yourself. I

1428
01:02:39,480 --> 01:02:43,160
Speaker 3: don't go bothering nobody else's platform. But if you bring

1429
01:02:43,280 --> 01:02:45,120
Speaker 3: that to me and you think that I'm just gonna

1430
01:02:45,120 --> 01:02:47,080
Speaker 3: be docile and look the other way and not say

1431
01:02:47,160 --> 01:02:49,720
Speaker 3: nothing about it, First of all, you we gotta be

1432
01:02:49,760 --> 01:02:52,960
Speaker 3: equally yoke for me to even say something. But there's

1433
01:02:53,000 --> 01:02:56,000
Speaker 3: some people who will who will try you because they

1434
01:02:56,080 --> 01:02:59,360
Speaker 3: are under the assumption that you are a easy target.

1435
01:03:00,200 --> 01:03:01,800
Speaker 3: And that's when I got to really think about this

1436
01:03:01,920 --> 01:03:04,520
Speaker 3: in a holistic way and say, first of all, this

1437
01:03:04,720 --> 01:03:05,560
Speaker 3: is worth the energy?

1438
01:03:06,520 --> 01:03:06,640
Speaker 5: Is it?

1439
01:03:06,880 --> 01:03:07,040
Speaker 4: Is it?

1440
01:03:07,240 --> 01:03:09,439
Speaker 1: Is it derailing what I've already been building.

1441
01:03:10,360 --> 01:03:12,360
Speaker 3: Or is there an opportunity here to make sure that

1442
01:03:12,480 --> 01:03:14,280
Speaker 3: this person serves as an example of why you.

1443
01:03:14,320 --> 01:03:16,240
Speaker 1: Don't fuck with certain people just leave them alone?

1444
01:03:21,640 --> 01:03:21,840
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1445
01:03:21,880 --> 01:03:23,920
Speaker 4: You know what, man, this is what I said about that.

1446
01:03:25,520 --> 01:03:27,680
Speaker 4: I don't think that we should ever go looking for

1447
01:03:27,800 --> 01:03:30,840
Speaker 4: somebody man, Like that's my thing. I don't look now.

1448
01:03:30,920 --> 01:03:32,840
Speaker 4: I do have a list of people on his hand

1449
01:03:33,240 --> 01:03:34,919
Speaker 4: that I say, you know what, if I see this dude,

1450
01:03:34,920 --> 01:03:40,120
Speaker 4: I'm gonna knock his ass out. But I don't want

1451
01:03:40,160 --> 01:03:41,760
Speaker 4: to trust him. I'm not going to go look for

1452
01:03:41,880 --> 01:03:42,240
Speaker 4: him either.

1453
01:03:43,920 --> 01:03:46,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, and sometimes got to make sure you never cross

1454
01:03:46,800 --> 01:03:48,600
Speaker 3: paths with this person because they know how serious it

1455
01:03:48,720 --> 01:03:50,160
Speaker 3: is you on.

1456
01:03:50,240 --> 01:03:52,960
Speaker 4: This list right here. That means you really disrespected me though,

1457
01:03:53,680 --> 01:03:55,520
Speaker 4: And when I see you, I'm gonna make you stand

1458
01:03:55,560 --> 01:03:59,080
Speaker 4: on everything you ever said, and it's gonna get ugly, right.

1459
01:03:59,200 --> 01:04:01,560
Speaker 4: But I'm not wanting to look for that person. I

1460
01:04:01,600 --> 01:04:01,960
Speaker 4: don't think.

1461
01:04:02,040 --> 01:04:02,200
Speaker 5: Man.

1462
01:04:02,520 --> 01:04:06,440
Speaker 4: Again, lines don't concern themselves with the activities of hyena, man,

1463
01:04:06,520 --> 01:04:08,520
Speaker 4: because we don't have time for that.

1464
01:04:08,680 --> 01:04:08,840
Speaker 5: Man.

1465
01:04:09,040 --> 01:04:11,480
Speaker 4: It's like a lot of these dudes. Man, it's just

1466
01:04:12,080 --> 01:04:13,840
Speaker 4: a lot of these people. Man, something wrong with some

1467
01:04:13,920 --> 01:04:17,520
Speaker 4: of these people. First of all, some of these problems.

1468
01:04:17,560 --> 01:04:22,040
Speaker 3: Man, how often you ask yourself is this person rap

1469
01:04:22,120 --> 01:04:24,560
Speaker 3: too How many times do you tell yourself, like, I

1470
01:04:24,600 --> 01:04:26,240
Speaker 3: don't think this person is rap too tight?

1471
01:04:26,840 --> 01:04:28,960
Speaker 1: And I'm not even people tell us.

1472
01:04:28,880 --> 01:04:30,520
Speaker 4: Something that's wrong with them, man, because they don't act

1473
01:04:30,560 --> 01:04:32,320
Speaker 4: like that. I'm gonna tell you something. This is the

1474
01:04:32,360 --> 01:04:35,880
Speaker 4: truth right right. I love black people. I love my people, man,

1475
01:04:36,200 --> 01:04:38,080
Speaker 4: And this is big fact.

1476
01:04:38,160 --> 01:04:38,360
Speaker 5: Though.

1477
01:04:39,120 --> 01:04:41,560
Speaker 4: Do you see any other race of people doing the

1478
01:04:41,600 --> 01:04:43,520
Speaker 4: stuff that are forty and fifty year old men be

1479
01:04:43,600 --> 01:04:50,680
Speaker 4: doing wine? Think about it. Brow. Now you have some

1480
01:04:50,880 --> 01:04:53,200
Speaker 4: people who you know, like you've got the dude, some

1481
01:04:53,360 --> 01:04:55,400
Speaker 4: jackass to get all the little silly, little stunts and

1482
01:04:55,400 --> 01:04:58,000
Speaker 4: stuff like that. I'm not talking about that they getting

1483
01:04:58,040 --> 01:05:00,200
Speaker 4: paid and making a lot of money doing what they do, right,

1484
01:05:00,760 --> 01:05:04,160
Speaker 4: But the just the stuff out here, man, just the

1485
01:05:04,240 --> 01:05:06,360
Speaker 4: stuff that used to be quiet. You know, from the

1486
01:05:06,400 --> 01:05:08,320
Speaker 4: era I'm from. If you was a gang banger man,

1487
01:05:08,320 --> 01:05:10,160
Speaker 4: you didn't believe want nobody to know you banged, if

1488
01:05:10,200 --> 01:05:12,479
Speaker 4: you sold dope, you didn't want nobody know you sold dope,

1489
01:05:12,760 --> 01:05:14,680
Speaker 4: If you was really into that life, you just kind

1490
01:05:14,720 --> 01:05:17,320
Speaker 4: of was just low key. Yeah, you just kind of

1491
01:05:17,360 --> 01:05:19,120
Speaker 4: stayed to yourself because you knew what it could be.

1492
01:05:19,280 --> 01:05:23,080
Speaker 4: Right these dudes today, man, again, everybody is trying to

1493
01:05:23,200 --> 01:05:27,640
Speaker 4: become the ghetto god. Everybody wants to be the ghetto guy.

1494
01:05:27,920 --> 01:05:30,120
Speaker 4: And if you notice the ghetto god. Man, they die

1495
01:05:30,200 --> 01:05:32,080
Speaker 4: all over the world. They get proven not to be

1496
01:05:32,160 --> 01:05:34,360
Speaker 4: gods because they get knocked down all the time and

1497
01:05:34,520 --> 01:05:36,840
Speaker 4: be surprised when it happened. Like, man, you saw they

1498
01:05:36,960 --> 01:05:39,680
Speaker 4: knocked such and such down. Man, that's the such a

1499
01:05:39,720 --> 01:05:41,360
Speaker 4: such as just a man at the end of the day.

1500
01:05:41,680 --> 01:05:42,400
Speaker 1: At the end of the day.

1501
01:05:42,520 --> 01:05:46,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, But you know what I am encouraged by

1502
01:05:46,440 --> 01:05:48,000
Speaker 3: because I hear what you're saying, and I think that

1503
01:05:48,120 --> 01:05:49,560
Speaker 3: that is a very real issue.

1504
01:05:49,640 --> 01:05:53,240
Speaker 1: That is a lot of that stuff too. What they

1505
01:05:53,280 --> 01:05:53,560
Speaker 1: call that.

1506
01:05:55,720 --> 01:05:58,280
Speaker 3: The I forget the law. It's like one of them

1507
01:05:58,360 --> 01:06:01,720
Speaker 3: laws of human nature or like that stuff. I don't

1508
01:06:01,760 --> 01:06:04,440
Speaker 3: know if it's dar wisdom, but like it finds its

1509
01:06:04,480 --> 01:06:07,280
Speaker 3: way to work in itself out as we evolve as people.

1510
01:06:07,760 --> 01:06:11,200
Speaker 3: I do think I'm encouraged by the same Internet that

1511
01:06:11,280 --> 01:06:13,280
Speaker 3: we can use, as you were saying earlier, to do

1512
01:06:13,360 --> 01:06:17,680
Speaker 3: all of this goofy shit and have it be amplified

1513
01:06:17,720 --> 01:06:20,040
Speaker 3: all over the world. It's the same Internet that allows

1514
01:06:20,080 --> 01:06:22,520
Speaker 3: me to have a conversation with somebody who never came

1515
01:06:22,640 --> 01:06:24,840
Speaker 3: up like I came up, and give me a different

1516
01:06:25,280 --> 01:06:27,880
Speaker 3: way to think about life, give me a different way

1517
01:06:27,920 --> 01:06:31,120
Speaker 3: to address issues on a daily basis. That's why I

1518
01:06:31,200 --> 01:06:34,720
Speaker 3: look at my responsibility sometimes in the space, Like when

1519
01:06:34,760 --> 01:06:37,600
Speaker 3: I was first just doing producer content on YouTube, I

1520
01:06:37,720 --> 01:06:39,480
Speaker 3: made an emphasis to be not just a god that

1521
01:06:39,560 --> 01:06:42,000
Speaker 3: did tutorials, but the guy that talked about mental health,

1522
01:06:42,720 --> 01:06:44,840
Speaker 3: the one that wasn't afraid to talk about the history

1523
01:06:44,880 --> 01:06:46,760
Speaker 3: of my people. And I'm gonna find a way to

1524
01:06:46,760 --> 01:06:49,160
Speaker 3: bring it into what I'm doing. And I got a

1525
01:06:49,200 --> 01:06:50,840
Speaker 3: lot of hell because it wasn't a lot of black

1526
01:06:50,880 --> 01:06:54,439
Speaker 3: concent creators, even though this is a traditionally black art form.

1527
01:06:55,240 --> 01:06:58,800
Speaker 1: They were giving me health. I got called things and

1528
01:06:58,880 --> 01:06:59,760
Speaker 1: mind you, I didn't been.

1529
01:07:00,120 --> 01:07:02,440
Speaker 3: I went to Paramount High where first time I ever

1530
01:07:02,480 --> 01:07:05,040
Speaker 3: heard somebody call call me uh the N word with

1531
01:07:05,120 --> 01:07:08,120
Speaker 3: the e R was at Paramount High. And it was

1532
01:07:08,200 --> 01:07:09,640
Speaker 3: during the it was it was during the midst of

1533
01:07:09,680 --> 01:07:13,320
Speaker 3: a race war, and it was like Black folks was

1534
01:07:13,360 --> 01:07:15,960
Speaker 3: out numbered probably about ninety five percent to about three.

1535
01:07:19,120 --> 01:07:23,480
Speaker 1: Huh you no glasses hit now Glasses.

1536
01:07:23,560 --> 01:07:25,000
Speaker 3: Glasses been a little bit older than me, but I

1537
01:07:25,240 --> 01:07:29,440
Speaker 3: was going there probably two thousand probably to uh had

1538
01:07:29,480 --> 01:07:31,280
Speaker 3: to be like two thousand, two thousand and one.

1539
01:07:31,440 --> 01:07:33,520
Speaker 4: But yeah, you definitely Glasses was going already.

1540
01:07:33,960 --> 01:07:38,520
Speaker 3: Yes, I say all that to say I had that happen.

1541
01:07:38,600 --> 01:07:40,680
Speaker 3: I had a dude tell me one time. He was like, man,

1542
01:07:41,760 --> 01:07:43,640
Speaker 3: give me the answer to the to the test. And

1543
01:07:43,680 --> 01:07:45,920
Speaker 3: I was saying, give me you ship. He said, all right, well,

1544
01:07:45,920 --> 01:07:47,800
Speaker 3: I'm gonna just tell all the Latino as you said,

1545
01:07:47,880 --> 01:07:48,520
Speaker 3: f Mexicans.

1546
01:07:49,880 --> 01:07:50,280
Speaker 5: M hmm.

1547
01:07:51,000 --> 01:07:54,360
Speaker 1: Now you got me fighting thirty forty people. It's see

1548
01:07:54,480 --> 01:07:56,080
Speaker 1: the answer is see ship. Let me alone.

1549
01:07:58,680 --> 01:08:00,240
Speaker 3: I say all that to say that the n that

1550
01:08:01,560 --> 01:08:03,800
Speaker 3: has by far and I've I've been called some crazy

1551
01:08:03,880 --> 01:08:05,600
Speaker 3: things to my face and I didn't fought form and

1552
01:08:05,640 --> 01:08:05,920
Speaker 3: all of that.

1553
01:08:06,560 --> 01:08:08,960
Speaker 1: I've been called more crazy thing. The first somebody's been

1554
01:08:08,960 --> 01:08:11,000
Speaker 1: called a porch monkey. And I know, I don't. I don't.

1555
01:08:11,000 --> 01:08:11,280
Speaker 1: I don't.

1556
01:08:11,360 --> 01:08:13,720
Speaker 3: Look sometimes people think I'm Puerto Rican or whatever, but

1557
01:08:13,800 --> 01:08:15,760
Speaker 3: like I'm I'm black. I'm black, and what my my

1558
01:08:15,920 --> 01:08:20,200
Speaker 3: name is? D apostrophe w A nd wan. But I

1559
01:08:20,240 --> 01:08:21,920
Speaker 3: didn't have people call me all kinds of things. But

1560
01:08:22,040 --> 01:08:23,439
Speaker 3: I'm like, damn, I only heard.

1561
01:08:23,320 --> 01:08:23,960
Speaker 1: This in the books.

1562
01:08:25,160 --> 01:08:26,760
Speaker 3: You don't know the Catcher and the Ride, all these

1563
01:08:26,800 --> 01:08:28,599
Speaker 3: kind of shit. I only see this in the movies

1564
01:08:28,920 --> 01:08:31,360
Speaker 3: and the slave movies. All that came out of the

1565
01:08:31,439 --> 01:08:33,360
Speaker 3: Internet and this is a different type of YouTube.

1566
01:08:33,880 --> 01:08:34,280
Speaker 1: I say all.

1567
01:08:34,280 --> 01:08:37,560
Speaker 3: I have to say that there's so much of that

1568
01:08:38,600 --> 01:08:42,280
Speaker 3: that goes unaccounted for. And I came into this with

1569
01:08:42,560 --> 01:08:44,960
Speaker 3: very I thought I had thicker skin to what I had,

1570
01:08:46,560 --> 01:08:48,320
Speaker 3: and I had to learn it quickly.

1571
01:08:48,120 --> 01:08:50,600
Speaker 1: Because I can't. You can't fight everybody.

1572
01:08:52,439 --> 01:08:55,280
Speaker 4: Broke and you can't care man, because you That's the

1573
01:08:55,360 --> 01:08:58,240
Speaker 4: thing you gotta remember. Man, Half these people, Man, if

1574
01:08:58,280 --> 01:09:00,360
Speaker 4: they saw you in a Walmart somewhere, don't you do,

1575
01:09:00,400 --> 01:09:04,519
Speaker 4: They're not gonna say nothing to you. They thrive on animenity. Man.

1576
01:09:04,640 --> 01:09:07,720
Speaker 4: So it's like, man, it's like it's like arguing with

1577
01:09:07,840 --> 01:09:10,719
Speaker 4: a motherfucker on Instagram who ain't got no profile pictures.

1578
01:09:11,120 --> 01:09:12,680
Speaker 1: I don't do it no more. Now you know what

1579
01:09:12,720 --> 01:09:13,080
Speaker 1: I'm saying.

1580
01:09:13,120 --> 01:09:15,680
Speaker 5: It's like you have and know me.

1581
01:09:15,680 --> 01:09:16,920
Speaker 4: I ain't even paying no attention to you.

1582
01:09:17,640 --> 01:09:19,840
Speaker 1: And that be the loudest too. I'm like, how you got?

1583
01:09:19,920 --> 01:09:22,479
Speaker 3: How are you the loudest about somebody's appearance? And you

1584
01:09:22,560 --> 01:09:25,240
Speaker 3: won't even you too scared to upload a photo of yourself.

1585
01:09:26,280 --> 01:09:28,920
Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying. Because they thrive on animenity, man,

1586
01:09:30,560 --> 01:09:32,880
Speaker 4: I mean you you got cats?

1587
01:09:32,920 --> 01:09:35,639
Speaker 5: Hold me that make a page? Just to go through

1588
01:09:35,720 --> 01:09:36,920
Speaker 5: hate mm hmm.

1589
01:09:37,360 --> 01:09:39,040
Speaker 3: But see what they don't understand is I came up

1590
01:09:39,080 --> 01:09:40,800
Speaker 3: in l A U. S. D. And if you didn't

1591
01:09:40,800 --> 01:09:42,679
Speaker 3: know how to clown somebody, you're gonna have a hard

1592
01:09:42,760 --> 01:09:45,800
Speaker 3: time in them years. And it's been a situation where

1593
01:09:45,800 --> 01:09:47,920
Speaker 3: I'm like, I better get some jokes. I better find

1594
01:09:47,960 --> 01:09:50,439
Speaker 3: some jokes because if not, I'm finna be lit up

1595
01:09:50,439 --> 01:09:52,760
Speaker 3: every single day until somebody saying, no, leave them alone,

1596
01:09:52,840 --> 01:09:53,400
Speaker 3: leave them alone.

1597
01:09:53,560 --> 01:09:55,640
Speaker 4: You know, you know what I wanted to ask, ask you,

1598
01:09:55,800 --> 01:09:59,320
Speaker 4: sex man, But see this crazy brn. I'm the little

1599
01:09:59,360 --> 01:10:01,040
Speaker 4: sex then in the twenty years, and no, I never

1600
01:10:01,080 --> 01:10:02,639
Speaker 4: asked no this ship when I'm around them.

1601
01:10:03,000 --> 01:10:03,400
Speaker 5: Oh wow.

1602
01:10:04,320 --> 01:10:07,600
Speaker 4: Do you remember when Q found yo Yo? Whe did

1603
01:10:07,640 --> 01:10:08,400
Speaker 4: he always know her?

1604
01:10:09,280 --> 01:10:09,479
Speaker 1: Nah?

1605
01:10:09,680 --> 01:10:14,120
Speaker 5: He met her through jinks because Yoyo when we all

1606
01:10:14,160 --> 01:10:14,960
Speaker 5: went to school together.

1607
01:10:17,040 --> 01:10:18,840
Speaker 4: Really, was she wrapping back you when you went to

1608
01:10:18,880 --> 01:10:19,400
Speaker 4: school with her?

1609
01:10:20,040 --> 01:10:22,280
Speaker 5: Yeah? Yeah she was. She was in this school called

1610
01:10:22,320 --> 01:10:23,000
Speaker 5: Depth City.

1611
01:10:22,840 --> 01:10:28,200
Speaker 4: Girls, Deaf City Girls. Yeah, so she wrote all her own.

1612
01:10:28,040 --> 01:10:30,519
Speaker 5: Shit back in the day she did.

1613
01:10:30,640 --> 01:10:34,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, Yoya art Man, Yoya was always one of my

1614
01:10:34,560 --> 01:10:37,320
Speaker 4: favorite female mcs. You know, the West Coast. I don't

1615
01:10:37,360 --> 01:10:40,479
Speaker 4: know why the West Coast don't have no real female MC's. Like,

1616
01:10:40,560 --> 01:10:42,200
Speaker 4: you know, people could say rage, but she went in

1617
01:10:42,320 --> 01:10:44,680
Speaker 4: really a West coast. She was from VA, you know.

1618
01:10:45,720 --> 01:10:46,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, there's a.

1619
01:10:46,760 --> 01:10:49,280
Speaker 3: Lot of transplants though. I think that's what makes it

1620
01:10:49,400 --> 01:10:53,000
Speaker 3: so unique, is that one thing is undeniable. I don't

1621
01:10:53,000 --> 01:10:55,880
Speaker 3: care where you're from when you touch down here. The

1622
01:10:55,920 --> 01:10:58,160
Speaker 3: same thing happened at Dilla too, when Dyla mat Mad

1623
01:10:58,200 --> 01:11:01,679
Speaker 3: live out here. Hm, them drums start slumping a little

1624
01:11:01,720 --> 01:11:03,840
Speaker 3: bit more. They started swinging a little bit more all

1625
01:11:03,880 --> 01:11:06,439
Speaker 3: of a sudden, he using basslines you never really heard

1626
01:11:06,479 --> 01:11:07,000
Speaker 3: in his beats.

1627
01:11:07,840 --> 01:11:08,960
Speaker 1: When you come over here and you.

1628
01:11:09,080 --> 01:11:11,960
Speaker 3: Touch down, it's something about this cooking, It's something about

1629
01:11:12,000 --> 01:11:15,080
Speaker 3: this environment. It's something about the speed of life that

1630
01:11:15,280 --> 01:11:17,040
Speaker 3: leaves an imprint on you no matter where you're from.

1631
01:11:17,080 --> 01:11:20,800
Speaker 3: But I agree with you, was that, Yeah, in terms

1632
01:11:20,800 --> 01:11:25,400
Speaker 3: of homegrown talent, you know it. Yeah, it's a list,

1633
01:11:25,560 --> 01:11:27,400
Speaker 3: it's a list for sure. But yeah, that's that's one

1634
01:11:27,400 --> 01:11:29,599
Speaker 3: of those where it's like I don't even look at

1635
01:11:29,640 --> 01:11:30,599
Speaker 3: them as not being from here.

1636
01:11:31,960 --> 01:11:36,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's crazy, man. You know what, one day we

1637
01:11:36,680 --> 01:11:38,360
Speaker 4: would have to have Jinks come up here. Man. I

1638
01:11:38,960 --> 01:11:42,360
Speaker 4: talked to Jinks actually on Instagram and me and was

1639
01:11:42,400 --> 01:11:44,240
Speaker 4: going back and forth. We need to make that happen. Man,

1640
01:11:44,360 --> 01:11:46,519
Speaker 4: Jinks is probably one of the most underrated dudes out

1641
01:11:46,520 --> 01:11:46,720
Speaker 4: of here.

1642
01:11:47,240 --> 01:11:49,120
Speaker 1: Oh man, we know, we know better.

1643
01:11:49,240 --> 01:11:49,479
Speaker 5: We know.

1644
01:11:51,280 --> 01:11:55,320
Speaker 4: Jeans don't do everybody. He did in some exhibits biggest records. Huh, Yeah,

1645
01:11:56,520 --> 01:11:58,719
Speaker 4: Jeanstone did some big ass hip hop records.

1646
01:11:58,760 --> 01:11:58,880
Speaker 5: Man.

1647
01:11:58,880 --> 01:12:00,120
Speaker 4: That's the thing about it, man.

1648
01:12:00,439 --> 01:12:05,200
Speaker 5: You know, huh that coolie rap album Bujie Wrap.

1649
01:12:05,479 --> 01:12:07,720
Speaker 4: I'm saying, man, you know when you think about like

1650
01:12:08,160 --> 01:12:10,479
Speaker 4: she probably just thinking about the changster rap side, but

1651
01:12:10,600 --> 01:12:13,200
Speaker 4: he made some pivotal hip hop records. Man.

1652
01:12:13,640 --> 01:12:18,400
Speaker 7: Yeah, who was twelve hundred Yep, that was a ship

1653
01:12:18,479 --> 01:12:20,840
Speaker 7: for a minute a long time. That actually twelve Yeah,

1654
01:12:21,080 --> 01:12:21,439
Speaker 7: you can.

1655
01:12:21,479 --> 01:12:23,680
Speaker 4: Just tell the way that just bit rate swinging that

1656
01:12:23,800 --> 01:12:27,200
Speaker 4: motherfucker dog. Just the way the drum sounded that motherfuger

1657
01:12:27,200 --> 01:12:29,479
Speaker 4: you just sampled something that motherfug It sounds way different

1658
01:12:29,640 --> 01:12:32,320
Speaker 4: than like in the NPC or something like that.

1659
01:12:32,760 --> 01:12:35,680
Speaker 5: Shit, because that was that eight and twelve bit.

1660
01:12:36,920 --> 01:12:38,880
Speaker 4: He just gave it a certain ring to a dog.

1661
01:12:39,800 --> 01:12:40,000
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1662
01:12:41,439 --> 01:12:43,240
Speaker 3: That's how e skill over here with the cheek holes

1663
01:12:43,320 --> 01:12:45,840
Speaker 3: right now. Ea, Ski is utilizing a lot of them

1664
01:12:45,880 --> 01:12:48,000
Speaker 3: sounds where it's like, why it sounds so much warmer

1665
01:12:48,040 --> 01:12:49,600
Speaker 3: than the sounds that's coming out of f L in

1666
01:12:49,680 --> 01:12:50,439
Speaker 3: the FL studio.

1667
01:12:50,520 --> 01:12:52,519
Speaker 1: It's like, because it's not coming out of FL studio.

1668
01:12:53,160 --> 01:12:56,479
Speaker 7: Yeah, he ski got a gang out board gear man,

1669
01:12:56,560 --> 01:12:59,080
Speaker 7: all that analog out board gear that should be slumping

1670
01:12:59,400 --> 01:13:00,439
Speaker 7: the converter and all that.

1671
01:13:00,680 --> 01:13:01,680
Speaker 1: You know. I'm not. I'm not.

1672
01:13:02,120 --> 01:13:04,200
Speaker 3: I didn't come up as a hardware hit. I had

1673
01:13:04,240 --> 01:13:07,599
Speaker 3: to like learn from those who had hardware. I came

1674
01:13:07,640 --> 01:13:09,720
Speaker 3: in at the tail end. Right, my mom's had a

1675
01:13:11,880 --> 01:13:14,040
Speaker 3: a rolling Phantom and that was the first time I

1676
01:13:14,080 --> 01:13:16,120
Speaker 3: had eating any kind of life physical equipment because I

1677
01:13:16,120 --> 01:13:18,759
Speaker 3: just couldn't afford it. Right, I was on a Quiznos.

1678
01:13:18,840 --> 01:13:20,679
Speaker 3: I was working at Quiznos. I had a Quizno's budget

1679
01:13:20,680 --> 01:13:24,840
Speaker 3: living in Carson, and I never forget that keyboard came

1680
01:13:24,880 --> 01:13:26,560
Speaker 3: with the floppy disc, and I just never got the

1681
01:13:26,560 --> 01:13:29,240
Speaker 3: floppy disc. So anytime I made a beat, I made

1682
01:13:29,240 --> 01:13:30,680
Speaker 3: the beat and I just had to like take it

1683
01:13:30,760 --> 01:13:34,240
Speaker 3: and put the sounds right into my computer. But before that,

1684
01:13:34,520 --> 01:13:37,559
Speaker 3: I was making beats on the PlayStation uh in TV

1685
01:13:37,720 --> 01:13:39,320
Speaker 3: music generator WO.

1686
01:13:39,520 --> 01:13:40,040
Speaker 5: I heard that.

1687
01:13:40,160 --> 01:13:42,679
Speaker 4: That's when Son Weeds started making beats, said too, Yeah.

1688
01:13:42,600 --> 01:13:44,400
Speaker 3: A lot of metro booming, a lot of the artists,

1689
01:13:44,400 --> 01:13:46,160
Speaker 3: a lot of producers, because it was like we came

1690
01:13:46,240 --> 01:13:50,000
Speaker 3: up where producers before my generation came up to where

1691
01:13:50,000 --> 01:13:51,800
Speaker 3: it's like, you're not even a serious producer if you

1692
01:13:51,840 --> 01:13:54,559
Speaker 3: don't got no hardware. A lot of us came up

1693
01:13:54,600 --> 01:13:56,880
Speaker 3: where it was like, this is when the hardwares were

1694
01:13:56,920 --> 01:13:59,160
Speaker 3: self aware of themselves, the companies, and they were like,

1695
01:13:59,439 --> 01:14:02,120
Speaker 3: we can start taxing now, especially when you got scratch

1696
01:14:02,200 --> 01:14:04,400
Speaker 3: magazines and I'm seeing all the ads and I'm like,

1697
01:14:04,479 --> 01:14:06,719
Speaker 3: I want it, but my mom's.

1698
01:14:06,479 --> 01:14:07,920
Speaker 1: Ain't fin the shelf. She ain't got the money the

1699
01:14:08,000 --> 01:14:09,480
Speaker 1: shelf even working graveyard.

1700
01:14:11,320 --> 01:14:13,320
Speaker 4: Then it was gonna be if you want the m

1701
01:14:13,400 --> 01:14:15,679
Speaker 4: c PC back then, dog, I remember, it was gonna

1702
01:14:15,680 --> 01:14:21,400
Speaker 4: be twenty five hundred dollars every bit, every bit five

1703
01:14:21,520 --> 01:14:23,719
Speaker 4: hundred dollars. And that was if they had on sale.

1704
01:14:23,760 --> 01:14:25,720
Speaker 4: Other than that, it was gonna be anywhere between three

1705
01:14:25,800 --> 01:14:28,760
Speaker 4: thoy thirty twenty dollars. Man. And that was back then,

1706
01:14:29,200 --> 01:14:32,280
Speaker 4: and I'm Jenny Man. The first drum machine I ever

1707
01:14:32,360 --> 01:14:35,160
Speaker 4: got was because remember they had the little rent on programs, dads.

1708
01:14:35,920 --> 01:14:39,599
Speaker 4: I remember you put me the rent turntables. I rented

1709
01:14:39,640 --> 01:14:41,880
Speaker 4: a sp twelve hundred. Man, I think that things still

1710
01:14:41,920 --> 01:14:48,400
Speaker 4: on my credit man, because I man I made drop off.

1711
01:14:49,920 --> 01:14:52,560
Speaker 4: I had that, man, and I had that, and I

1712
01:14:52,600 --> 01:14:54,519
Speaker 4: got a pre keyboard in the fore track.

1713
01:14:55,040 --> 01:14:59,400
Speaker 3: Yeah see, I had a home in of mine that worked.

1714
01:14:59,640 --> 01:15:01,960
Speaker 3: He worked to Lax and he started getting crazy checks

1715
01:15:02,000 --> 01:15:04,720
Speaker 3: working at Lax and he was my collaborator. Shout out

1716
01:15:04,720 --> 01:15:06,559
Speaker 3: to my guy John. When I was living in Carson,

1717
01:15:06,640 --> 01:15:09,360
Speaker 3: he would he want. He was like, man, I'm gonna

1718
01:15:09,360 --> 01:15:09,920
Speaker 3: get your MPC.

1719
01:15:10,160 --> 01:15:10,840
Speaker 4: I was like, for real.

1720
01:15:11,240 --> 01:15:12,360
Speaker 1: I was like, man, I appreciate it.

1721
01:15:13,280 --> 01:15:16,120
Speaker 3: I sat there with it and I was like, I

1722
01:15:16,120 --> 01:15:18,240
Speaker 3: don't know nobody that used this, and I was trying

1723
01:15:18,280 --> 01:15:20,040
Speaker 3: to teach myself and I kind of figured out a

1724
01:15:20,080 --> 01:15:20,559
Speaker 3: little bit.

1725
01:15:20,920 --> 01:15:22,280
Speaker 1: And I was like, I think I kind of want

1726
01:15:22,320 --> 01:15:23,839
Speaker 1: to see what's up with this fl studio.

1727
01:15:24,479 --> 01:15:28,080
Speaker 3: I sold it and ended up getting to m Audio

1728
01:15:28,160 --> 01:15:31,400
Speaker 3: b X e eighties or EBX eight eight, b X

1729
01:15:31,479 --> 01:15:34,160
Speaker 3: eight was eighty whatever was the ones that was the

1730
01:15:34,280 --> 01:15:38,160
Speaker 3: tall monitors that had so much base. My neighbor would

1731
01:15:38,200 --> 01:15:40,479
Speaker 3: text me and say, Yo, that beat you working on

1732
01:15:40,640 --> 01:15:43,439
Speaker 3: is hard. I said, you can hear it. He was like, yeah,

1733
01:15:43,439 --> 01:15:46,360
Speaker 3: I'm upstairs. But that's what I ended up investing into

1734
01:15:46,400 --> 01:15:48,120
Speaker 3: because I was like, what am I good at? I

1735
01:15:48,240 --> 01:15:51,240
Speaker 3: wasn't a musician by trade. I never really had learned

1736
01:15:51,280 --> 01:15:52,720
Speaker 3: finger drumm, and I was like, what am I good at?

1737
01:15:52,800 --> 01:15:56,400
Speaker 3: I'm good with computers, and for me, FL Studio was like, okay,

1738
01:15:56,680 --> 01:15:58,200
Speaker 3: I was on the rolling Fantom. I kind of got

1739
01:15:58,240 --> 01:15:59,960
Speaker 3: a little idea how to work the keys from here.

1740
01:16:00,840 --> 01:16:02,439
Speaker 3: I did the PlayStation. I kind of know how to

1741
01:16:02,520 --> 01:16:05,960
Speaker 3: how to arrange in program. I took all those skills

1742
01:16:06,000 --> 01:16:09,040
Speaker 3: that FL eventually our footy Loops whatever was called at

1743
01:16:09,080 --> 01:16:11,280
Speaker 3: that time, and it was just a match made it

1744
01:16:11,280 --> 01:16:12,519
Speaker 3: because it was like it was almost like going back

1745
01:16:12,560 --> 01:16:13,160
Speaker 3: to the video game.

1746
01:16:14,040 --> 01:16:17,680
Speaker 7: Not not not to cut you off, Brope, but if

1747
01:16:17,720 --> 01:16:21,360
Speaker 7: you can man walk walk us through the process of

1748
01:16:21,439 --> 01:16:23,960
Speaker 7: your beat making, like from from start to finish.

1749
01:16:24,640 --> 01:16:24,800
Speaker 5: Right.

1750
01:16:25,200 --> 01:16:27,479
Speaker 3: So it's crazy because I'm trying to see if I

1751
01:16:27,560 --> 01:16:29,640
Speaker 3: got it on me right now, but I usually have

1752
01:16:29,680 --> 01:16:31,599
Speaker 3: around me. I got a book called The Prosperous Hip

1753
01:16:31,600 --> 01:16:35,880
Speaker 3: Hop Producer, and every single chapter of it is what

1754
01:16:36,040 --> 01:16:36,880
Speaker 3: that process is.

1755
01:16:37,560 --> 01:16:39,559
Speaker 1: It's just just the titles like the kicks and snares.

1756
01:16:39,920 --> 01:16:40,639
Speaker 1: For me, now.

1757
01:16:42,280 --> 01:16:45,720
Speaker 3: I've done every single process I can think of, from

1758
01:16:46,479 --> 01:16:48,360
Speaker 3: you know, starting with the drum, starting with the method.

1759
01:16:48,400 --> 01:16:51,320
Speaker 3: He's starting with all of these different things now because

1760
01:16:51,360 --> 01:16:55,920
Speaker 3: of websites like Splice, because of you know, things that

1761
01:16:56,080 --> 01:16:59,400
Speaker 3: allowed me to tap into musicians that will usually be

1762
01:16:59,520 --> 01:17:03,400
Speaker 3: musicians higher. My process now is I'm a sample based

1763
01:17:03,400 --> 01:17:06,000
Speaker 3: producer first, and I've been that. That's what got me

1764
01:17:06,040 --> 01:17:08,599
Speaker 3: all of my first placements. I can do a little

1765
01:17:08,600 --> 01:17:10,840
Speaker 3: bit of keywork, I'll play my bass and all of

1766
01:17:10,920 --> 01:17:13,360
Speaker 3: that stuff, but for the most part, I just love

1767
01:17:13,560 --> 01:17:16,719
Speaker 3: sampling and chopping up samples so I get a sample.

1768
01:17:16,800 --> 01:17:18,240
Speaker 1: Nowadays, we got royalty free.

1769
01:17:18,040 --> 01:17:20,760
Speaker 3: Samples that sound almost as good as the stuff you

1770
01:17:20,840 --> 01:17:23,400
Speaker 3: used to get off of vinyl, and so now I'm

1771
01:17:23,479 --> 01:17:25,240
Speaker 3: using these and I'm just chopping them up. It's like that,

1772
01:17:25,800 --> 01:17:28,439
Speaker 3: not having to worry about sample clearance. I throw some

1773
01:17:28,520 --> 01:17:31,000
Speaker 3: drums on it, and I kind of had this thing

1774
01:17:31,040 --> 01:17:34,040
Speaker 3: where I need to mix as I go, because what

1775
01:17:34,120 --> 01:17:37,360
Speaker 3: I'm trying to achieve is what I call an emotional

1776
01:17:37,400 --> 01:17:38,720
Speaker 3: mix before a technical mix.

1777
01:17:39,520 --> 01:17:39,680
Speaker 5: Right.

1778
01:17:39,720 --> 01:17:41,280
Speaker 3: I had somebody tell me one time, and they said,

1779
01:17:42,400 --> 01:17:48,040
Speaker 3: never confuse your responsibilities as the scientists and as the artists.

1780
01:17:48,640 --> 01:17:48,960
Speaker 5: He said.

1781
01:17:48,960 --> 01:17:51,680
Speaker 3: The problem is sometimes people think that they're being the

1782
01:17:51,840 --> 01:17:55,320
Speaker 3: artist and they're actually being a overly technical scientist and

1783
01:17:55,360 --> 01:17:58,600
Speaker 3: they're trying to tweak the compression settings and get attacking it.

1784
01:17:58,800 --> 01:18:01,559
Speaker 3: So for me, I'm just going on to fly. Everything

1785
01:18:01,680 --> 01:18:03,760
Speaker 3: is pure emotion, me just throwing pain at the wall.

1786
01:18:04,640 --> 01:18:06,760
Speaker 3: After that, after I'm done being a kid, I'll be

1787
01:18:06,800 --> 01:18:09,880
Speaker 3: an adult and I start mixing and organizing these ideas.

1788
01:18:10,400 --> 01:18:12,160
Speaker 3: But from B to B, it really just depends on

1789
01:18:12,200 --> 01:18:14,599
Speaker 3: who I'm working with. And now because I'm making beats

1790
01:18:14,680 --> 01:18:18,360
Speaker 3: live on on on stream, like you know, even that's

1791
01:18:18,439 --> 01:18:20,000
Speaker 3: changed my process a little bit because I know I

1792
01:18:20,040 --> 01:18:22,519
Speaker 3: could have five hundred, six hundred people who squit in

1793
01:18:22,600 --> 01:18:25,559
Speaker 3: AI is trying to figure out what I'm doing. It's

1794
01:18:25,640 --> 01:18:28,400
Speaker 3: just it's it's a beautiful period now to to to

1795
01:18:28,680 --> 01:18:30,439
Speaker 3: be making music because there's so many things you got

1796
01:18:30,479 --> 01:18:33,160
Speaker 3: access to that's in software instead of you know, the

1797
01:18:33,880 --> 01:18:37,040
Speaker 3: the heavy hardware sometimes so so you're an fl cap

1798
01:18:37,600 --> 01:18:38,559
Speaker 3: FL studio all the way.

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01:18:38,720 --> 01:18:38,920
Speaker 5: Yeah.

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01:18:39,800 --> 01:18:43,000
Speaker 4: Okay, see man, I'm just not getting to where I

1801
01:18:43,080 --> 01:18:46,120
Speaker 4: got MPC. I told you I want to MPC live Jazzy,

1802
01:18:46,720 --> 01:18:50,519
Speaker 4: and I'm just getting to where I do the computer

1803
01:18:50,680 --> 01:18:53,760
Speaker 4: based programming. I was always a hardware guy, and I

1804
01:18:53,880 --> 01:18:56,680
Speaker 4: even know me even though I still got the like

1805
01:18:56,760 --> 01:18:59,040
Speaker 4: the MPK two twenty five got the pass I got

1806
01:18:59,160 --> 01:19:00,200
Speaker 4: to steal my trunk.

1807
01:19:00,240 --> 01:19:00,720
Speaker 5: Like that, you know.

1808
01:19:01,400 --> 01:19:03,679
Speaker 3: But you know what, these kids now, that's what I'm saying,

1809
01:19:03,760 --> 01:19:05,760
Speaker 3: Like it ain't all bad with the kids because these

1810
01:19:05,840 --> 01:19:10,479
Speaker 3: kids now want a physical experience because all they've known

1811
01:19:10,680 --> 01:19:16,960
Speaker 3: is phone, iPad. Now they want something that feels real.

1812
01:19:17,280 --> 01:19:19,439
Speaker 3: And I'm watching these kids now, who they're not good.

1813
01:19:19,640 --> 01:19:20,840
Speaker 1: A lot of them they're not.

1814
01:19:21,040 --> 01:19:23,200
Speaker 3: You know, they're not the best finger drummers, but at

1815
01:19:23,280 --> 01:19:27,280
Speaker 3: least they're they're they're challenging themselves to go actually learn

1816
01:19:27,320 --> 01:19:29,840
Speaker 3: an instrument, because I don't get a twisted finger drumm.

1817
01:19:29,840 --> 01:19:31,680
Speaker 1: And it's learning an instrument, right.

1818
01:19:31,800 --> 01:19:35,479
Speaker 3: The pockets, the rhythms, the way that you space your fingers,

1819
01:19:35,520 --> 01:19:37,599
Speaker 3: these are all techniques you learn when you learn the keys.

1820
01:19:38,560 --> 01:19:40,760
Speaker 3: So same thing with that. I just look at these

1821
01:19:40,800 --> 01:19:43,280
Speaker 3: kids now where I'm like, Dug, y'all got a school

1822
01:19:43,320 --> 01:19:47,679
Speaker 3: program that'll teach you how to use the NPC. I wish, Yeah,

1823
01:19:48,160 --> 01:19:49,960
Speaker 3: we were still writing up whether or not rapp was

1824
01:19:49,960 --> 01:19:50,720
Speaker 3: real music to them?

1825
01:19:51,439 --> 01:19:54,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, they man. But you know what, though, the thing

1826
01:19:54,360 --> 01:19:56,479
Speaker 4: is technology you have made it to where it's a

1827
01:19:56,520 --> 01:19:58,519
Speaker 4: lot easier to do a lot of stuff, man, And

1828
01:19:58,640 --> 01:20:00,479
Speaker 4: that's why I had to kind of get old and

1829
01:20:00,560 --> 01:20:03,200
Speaker 4: get you know cause sometimes when you stuck in your ways,

1830
01:20:03,240 --> 01:20:05,400
Speaker 4: you're like, man, ain't you know really making those beats

1831
01:20:05,439 --> 01:20:07,840
Speaker 4: and you know whatever like that you sign you get

1832
01:20:07,880 --> 01:20:10,280
Speaker 4: it done? Is it's all the same end result, you

1833
01:20:10,320 --> 01:20:12,760
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, man, But I appreciate you coming

1834
01:20:12,800 --> 01:20:13,400
Speaker 4: to sit down.

1835
01:20:13,280 --> 01:20:17,040
Speaker 1: With It's like, man, anytime an the invitation for real

1836
01:20:17,600 --> 01:20:18,000
Speaker 1: for sure.

1837
01:20:18,040 --> 01:20:20,400
Speaker 4: And this is one of those intellects for discussions man

1838
01:20:20,400 --> 01:20:23,160
Speaker 4: about like halving every once in a while, man, just

1839
01:20:23,360 --> 01:20:25,400
Speaker 4: kind of talk about some real stuff, stay kind of

1840
01:20:25,479 --> 01:20:26,320
Speaker 4: rooted in reality.

1841
01:20:26,439 --> 01:20:26,960
Speaker 5: What's going on?

1842
01:20:27,800 --> 01:20:28,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it.

1843
01:20:30,360 --> 01:20:32,439
Speaker 3: It's a beautiful thing that I think that the internet

1844
01:20:32,479 --> 01:20:35,720
Speaker 3: does present the opportunity to be connected because I think

1845
01:20:35,800 --> 01:20:40,400
Speaker 3: that all all those platforms that that y'all takeysue with,

1846
01:20:40,479 --> 01:20:42,760
Speaker 3: I'll take issue with because I look at it and

1847
01:20:42,840 --> 01:20:45,519
Speaker 3: I'm like, I know we can have so much more.

1848
01:20:46,200 --> 01:20:49,599
Speaker 3: And I know that one day, two hundred years from now,

1849
01:20:50,040 --> 01:20:52,639
Speaker 3: it's gonna be somebody who's studying our time and they're

1850
01:20:52,640 --> 01:20:55,920
Speaker 3: gonna be trying to figure out like damn the you know,

1851
01:20:56,080 --> 01:21:01,040
Speaker 3: these these folks were so talented, but they less society

1852
01:21:01,160 --> 01:21:03,960
Speaker 3: stop them from making music at forty because of how

1853
01:21:04,040 --> 01:21:07,479
Speaker 3: it looked. So you're trying to tell me God gave

1854
01:21:07,560 --> 01:21:10,360
Speaker 3: you a gift to wrap, to write. And when you

1855
01:21:10,479 --> 01:21:12,519
Speaker 3: get the most wise in your life in terms of

1856
01:21:12,560 --> 01:21:15,360
Speaker 3: how you use your words, the most patient, that's when

1857
01:21:15,400 --> 01:21:19,840
Speaker 3: you stop talking to people. Right, That's what I'm looking

1858
01:21:19,840 --> 01:21:23,080
Speaker 3: at it. I'm forty, and I'm like, I'm re energized

1859
01:21:23,200 --> 01:21:25,880
Speaker 3: knowing that you know, I still got my mornings, you know,

1860
01:21:25,960 --> 01:21:28,679
Speaker 3: my my psiatic nerve, my back is kicking my ass.

1861
01:21:28,720 --> 01:21:31,479
Speaker 3: But I'm excited that I get to tell stories that

1862
01:21:31,560 --> 01:21:34,000
Speaker 3: the twenty year old me would love to hear about.

1863
01:21:34,200 --> 01:21:36,720
Speaker 3: He want to know what's up the road, and I

1864
01:21:36,800 --> 01:21:38,720
Speaker 3: know if I talk to him, I'm gonna talk to

1865
01:21:38,760 --> 01:21:40,519
Speaker 3: some I'm gonna talk to Hawaiian. I'm gonna talk to

1866
01:21:40,600 --> 01:21:43,160
Speaker 3: somebody who's like, damn, I never had nobody really say

1867
01:21:43,200 --> 01:21:45,120
Speaker 3: it like this. For those who are doing all that

1868
01:21:45,200 --> 01:21:48,000
Speaker 3: what you said earlier about shaming about age, you better

1869
01:21:48,080 --> 01:21:51,240
Speaker 3: pray with all the things around you, all the stuff

1870
01:21:51,280 --> 01:21:53,840
Speaker 3: in your ceilings, all the stuff and your food that

1871
01:21:53,960 --> 01:21:56,360
Speaker 3: you able to make it here all in one piece.

1872
01:21:56,400 --> 01:21:58,560
Speaker 3: I don't take that for granted, because I've seen a

1873
01:21:58,600 --> 01:22:00,280
Speaker 3: lot of people that are supposed to be here ain't

1874
01:22:00,320 --> 01:22:00,639
Speaker 3: here today.

1875
01:22:02,240 --> 01:22:04,160
Speaker 1: So I salute you. I salute you both, and thank

1876
01:22:04,200 --> 01:22:06,599
Speaker 1: you uh for allowing me to you know, sharing, your

1877
01:22:06,800 --> 01:22:08,280
Speaker 1: sharing your platform. I appreciate that.

1878
01:22:09,200 --> 01:22:11,400
Speaker 4: What show YouTube channels, I know those people that want

1879
01:22:11,400 --> 01:22:12,840
Speaker 4: to go check you out, you already got you got

1880
01:22:12,880 --> 01:22:14,240
Speaker 4: a big ass fellow on YouTube.

1881
01:22:14,640 --> 01:22:17,400
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah yeah, Curtis King TV, Curtis King TV,

1882
01:22:17,479 --> 01:22:20,240
Speaker 3: Curtis King with two s's. Uh And like my audience

1883
01:22:20,240 --> 01:22:23,439
Speaker 3: always say hashtag r are. My mom's name is Rochelle.

1884
01:22:23,840 --> 01:22:25,679
Speaker 3: I made a goal this shire to retire my mama.

1885
01:22:25,800 --> 01:22:28,760
Speaker 3: So I've been putting up content every single day, going

1886
01:22:28,840 --> 01:22:30,320
Speaker 3: live almost every single day.

1887
01:22:30,760 --> 01:22:32,600
Speaker 1: And uh, just running up interviews.

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01:22:33,360 --> 01:22:33,479
Speaker 4: Uh.

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01:22:33,680 --> 01:22:35,920
Speaker 3: Tomorrow I got an interview with Daylight. I know Daylight

1890
01:22:35,960 --> 01:22:38,880
Speaker 3: since I used to work at Quiznos back back way

1891
01:22:38,920 --> 01:22:41,400
Speaker 3: before he became the the tattoo face Daylight. I remember

1892
01:22:41,479 --> 01:22:44,679
Speaker 3: working with him at Quiznos. Uh during the night shift.

1893
01:22:45,160 --> 01:22:47,960
Speaker 3: Uh in Homie Thursday's coming up on Friday. So it's

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01:22:48,080 --> 01:22:50,200
Speaker 3: just it's it's it's a good I don't know when

1895
01:22:50,200 --> 01:22:51,840
Speaker 3: it's Aaron, but I'm just saying it's a good time

1896
01:22:51,920 --> 01:22:54,519
Speaker 3: right now, because with this window, with this light that's

1897
01:22:54,560 --> 01:22:57,000
Speaker 3: being shine right now, because of what Kendrick did on

1898
01:22:57,120 --> 01:22:59,280
Speaker 3: the West Coast, I'm not fitna be one of them

1899
01:22:59,280 --> 01:23:02,280
Speaker 3: people that's gonna be sitting around and not doing nothing

1900
01:23:02,320 --> 01:23:03,960
Speaker 3: about it. I want to make sure that while all

1901
01:23:04,040 --> 01:23:05,760
Speaker 3: this attention is coming from the rest of the world

1902
01:23:06,000 --> 01:23:08,960
Speaker 3: wanting to know about our history, I'm gonna do everything

1903
01:23:09,040 --> 01:23:11,599
Speaker 3: I can to bring them, bring those voices in quiet

1904
01:23:11,680 --> 01:23:13,080
Speaker 3: mind so that they can tell their stories.

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01:23:13,479 --> 01:23:15,800
Speaker 1: So I appreciate y'all for sure.

1906
01:23:15,880 --> 01:23:18,400
Speaker 4: For sure, y'all make sure y'all get home me such

1907
01:23:18,439 --> 01:23:19,799
Speaker 4: tax what's youw on Instagram?

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01:23:20,520 --> 01:23:22,880
Speaker 1: Same thing at Curtis King to US's, as long as

1909
01:23:22,920 --> 01:23:23,880
Speaker 1: it's to US's.

1910
01:23:24,040 --> 01:23:25,559
Speaker 4: At Curtis King, Saxon is yours?

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01:23:26,680 --> 01:23:28,720
Speaker 5: Uh dazzy D dot O g d A z z

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01:23:28,960 --> 01:23:31,040
Speaker 5: I E D E E dot og.

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01:23:32,200 --> 01:23:35,040
Speaker 4: Y'all know, go follow us up Against Chronicles podcast if

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01:23:35,040 --> 01:23:38,360
Speaker 4: you're not already, And on that note, we are out

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01:23:38,400 --> 01:23:38,639
Speaker 4: of here.

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01:23:40,160 --> 01:23:40,280
Speaker 5: Well.

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01:23:40,320 --> 01:23:43,120
Speaker 4: That concludes another episode of the Gainst the Chronicles podcast.

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Speaker 4: Be sure to download the iHeart app and subscribe to

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Speaker 4: Michael on the front of your screen, subscribe to the show,

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Speaker 4: leave of comment and rating. Executive producers for The Gangst

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01:23:53,920 --> 01:23:57,320
Speaker 4: Chronicles podcast Norman Stelled, Aaron M c a Tyler. Our

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Speaker 4: visual media director is Brian Whatt, and audio edit is

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01:24:00,320 --> 01:24:00,560
Speaker 4: tell It.

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01:24:00,640 --> 01:24:00,880
Speaker 5: Hayes.

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