1
00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:35,200
Speaker 1: This The One Bill's Live, presented by Calllida Health.

2
00:00:36,159 --> 00:00:38,320
Speaker 2: All right, here we are on a Wednesday, Chris Brown,

3
00:00:38,360 --> 00:00:42,960
Speaker 2: Steve Tasker with you, and holy moly, we're gonna be

4
00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:44,559
Speaker 2: We might as well be living in an Iglos here

5
00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:48,319
Speaker 2: for the next couple of weeks. Dude, you've been You've

6
00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:49,919
Speaker 2: been a plow driver pretty much.

7
00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:52,360
Speaker 1: Think four or five times over the last forty eight hours.

8
00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:55,040
Speaker 1: I've had to plow the drive. It's coming down. I

9
00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:56,120
Speaker 1: do it again this morning.

10
00:00:56,360 --> 00:00:58,040
Speaker 2: Fortunately, in my neck of the woods, we have not

11
00:00:58,080 --> 00:00:59,320
Speaker 2: gotten nearly as much.

12
00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:02,760
Speaker 1: We we popped on here. I think it might have

13
00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:05,200
Speaker 1: been Monday or might have No, I don't know, Tuesday

14
00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:07,520
Speaker 1: or Wednesday. I can't remember which day it was. We

15
00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:09,720
Speaker 1: we popped on. We sat down in our chairs and

16
00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:12,000
Speaker 1: we have this camera angle we're looking at now for

17
00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:16,240
Speaker 1: those for MSG viewers. And it was bright, sunny, sunshine,

18
00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:18,360
Speaker 1: and we sat down. Then we went to Commerci. They

19
00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:20,560
Speaker 1: went to commercial after the One Bill's I mean, the

20
00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:23,480
Speaker 1: Savers Live, come back to us. They turn that camera on.

21
00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:26,760
Speaker 2: You can't see anything anything, It is gone.

22
00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:31,720
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, there's the old stadium, Matt. We're not gonna

23
00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:34,280
Speaker 1: have that camera angle for much right, we're gonna have

24
00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:37,440
Speaker 1: the new place. Are we gonna have like an unveidler.

25
00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:39,280
Speaker 1: We're gonna have it like an event when we get

26
00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:41,759
Speaker 1: the new cameras on the stadium.

27
00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:47,560
Speaker 2: I still right, Ye, should we get a bugle or something?

28
00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:50,120
Speaker 2: We should get a bugler, that'd be cool, do.

29
00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:56,480
Speaker 1: Something or you know. Yeah, yeah, we're rolling a van

30
00:01:56,640 --> 00:01:59,480
Speaker 1: French worn better Okay like that?

31
00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:00,840
Speaker 2: You know French horns.

32
00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:04,160
Speaker 1: Did you get the difference as well? I'm pretty good.

33
00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:09,240
Speaker 1: That's just we'll play eruption. That's what we'll do. We'll

34
00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:12,519
Speaker 1: play eruption and then we'll flip the camera's angle and

35
00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:15,960
Speaker 1: we'll get to the inside. Are we Yes, we're getting

36
00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:16,840
Speaker 1: a new Uh.

37
00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:17,680
Speaker 2: I guess is this?

38
00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:21,280
Speaker 1: Can we talk about the new Well, we're getting a

39
00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:26,800
Speaker 1: new studio, Yeah, because this one is just about done.

40
00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:30,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's obsolete, very much like high Marks very much.

41
00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:34,680
Speaker 1: Maybe before we maybe before we move to the new studio,

42
00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:37,799
Speaker 1: we'll do one last thing without the effects in the background.

43
00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:42,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, or we'll we'll wear green blankets again and be

44
00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:44,160
Speaker 2: a couple of floating. Yeah.

45
00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:47,359
Speaker 1: This one looks all warm and cozy. Got the big

46
00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:49,320
Speaker 1: open room there with the jersey's on the wall. This

47
00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:50,760
Speaker 1: is nice. We're gonna get a better one.

48
00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:51,240
Speaker 2: Yeah.

49
00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:55,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, and so that all and all said. Now it's

50
00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:57,720
Speaker 1: going to happen this offseason, like a lot of things.

51
00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:01,079
Speaker 2: Yeah, when we don't know this to the list, when

52
00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:02,480
Speaker 2: we don't know exactly.

53
00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:05,160
Speaker 1: What's the first on our list, let's get a new studio. No, wait,

54
00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:06,720
Speaker 1: that might be down the list.

55
00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:08,679
Speaker 2: I think that's been superseded.

56
00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:11,200
Speaker 1: That might be down the list. I don't want to

57
00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:11,640
Speaker 1: make light.

58
00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:13,560
Speaker 2: Of it, but that's yeah, it's been superseded.

59
00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:16,480
Speaker 1: Hey, we have other things going You and I are

60
00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:20,560
Speaker 1: hyper aware of just where we rank, so we know

61
00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:24,480
Speaker 1: our place. We could not be further from the center

62
00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:31,080
Speaker 1: of things and still be on the property. We're on

63
00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:34,520
Speaker 1: the fringe of the doorstep barely inside the door in

64
00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:37,360
Speaker 1: the South forty. You guys can hang out in the

65
00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:39,840
Speaker 1: age if we were, if we were on a ranch,

66
00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:42,040
Speaker 1: we would be in the South forty, just inside the gate.

67
00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:47,520
Speaker 1: And there is on the atria. That's close enough. We

68
00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:50,200
Speaker 1: are so far from the center of the Bill's universe

69
00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:52,760
Speaker 1: as we couldn't be closer and yet be further away.

70
00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:54,920
Speaker 1: That's amazing.

71
00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:58,360
Speaker 2: But but with that in mind, we do have Bill's news

72
00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:00,400
Speaker 2: to pass along to you. Here we go as the

73
00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:06,280
Speaker 2: Bill's coaching interview schedule begins, i should say continues. Yesterday

74
00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:11,400
Speaker 2: it was offensive coordinator Joe Brady, and today former Giants

75
00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:16,880
Speaker 2: head coach Brian Daboll interviewed. That interview is now been completed.

76
00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:22,960
Speaker 2: So the Bill's former offensive coordinator and former Giants head

77
00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:28,200
Speaker 2: coach interviewed this morning and that interaction has now reached

78
00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:34,160
Speaker 2: its conclusion. Also on today's schedule Colts defensive coordinator lou Anarumo,

79
00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:38,240
Speaker 2: who presumably is interviewing right now and will presumably be

80
00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:40,120
Speaker 2: completed by the end of business today.

81
00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:42,240
Speaker 3: Uh.

82
00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:50,360
Speaker 1: I'm interested to see if there are other candidates because

83
00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:52,640
Speaker 1: an Roumo, I don't know if he moves the needle

84
00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:54,000
Speaker 1: for Bills fans, they don't know who he is in

85
00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:55,880
Speaker 1: one of these defensive thinks they know who of course

86
00:04:55,880 --> 00:05:01,520
Speaker 1: they'd yeah, great, he's a great defensive coordinator, good defensive mind.

87
00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:06,919
Speaker 1: Obviously he's experienced all of that. But he's not as

88
00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:10,880
Speaker 1: like some of these guys are polarizing, like day Ball, Yeah,

89
00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:16,240
Speaker 1: bringing back bringing back a guy. And Brian Daball, who

90
00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:19,719
Speaker 1: is he? He's a Buffalo guy and full disclosure, I'm

91
00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:24,359
Speaker 1: I consider myself a friend of his, very well acquainted

92
00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:27,680
Speaker 1: when he was here, his offensive coordinator. But you'll get

93
00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:32,760
Speaker 1: wide ranging opinions about how well I say, how good

94
00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:35,120
Speaker 1: people think of an idea that is. Some people think, no,

95
00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:37,480
Speaker 1: you don't, you don't want to just hire Josh's friends,

96
00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:40,200
Speaker 1: and you and I have made the obversation. Nobody coached

97
00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:45,159
Speaker 1: Josh harder than Brian Daball. Brian Daball was in his face,

98
00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:48,640
Speaker 1: remember back in his rookie year. He was like, well whatever,

99
00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:55,000
Speaker 1: we might have the footage of it, but Dave's is Yeah,

100
00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:58,960
Speaker 1: he's a good football coach and very qualified, and I

101
00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:02,320
Speaker 1: think his time in in New York would no question

102
00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:05,760
Speaker 1: have seasoned him to an extent that would serve him

103
00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:09,440
Speaker 1: well here. All of the guys that we have spoken

104
00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:14,080
Speaker 1: about as being candidates, some of them you'd think, yeah, okay,

105
00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:15,920
Speaker 1: I get that guy, he'd be you know that, the

106
00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:21,920
Speaker 1: whole list. You know, Anthony Lynn, who's been here, Joe Brady.

107
00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:24,040
Speaker 2: Interesting, Anthony Weaver's been here.

108
00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:28,320
Speaker 1: Anthony Weavers. Do you think and think about this? How

109
00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:30,360
Speaker 1: important is it that a guy has been here so

110
00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:34,000
Speaker 1: you know he knows what he's getting back into. You

111
00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:34,520
Speaker 1: know what I mean?

112
00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:39,120
Speaker 2: I think it's I think it's certainly a factor. I

113
00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:44,279
Speaker 2: don't think it's a driving priority, because I think the

114
00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:50,920
Speaker 2: number one priority is getting the right leader for what

115
00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:55,880
Speaker 2: you believe this current iteration of the team needs now.

116
00:06:55,960 --> 00:06:59,760
Speaker 2: And I'm not going to pretend to know every all

117
00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:04,919
Speaker 2: of the characteristics that go into that, but it's certainly

118
00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:09,800
Speaker 2: different than what this team needed nine years ago.

119
00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:10,480
Speaker 1: That's right.

120
00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:14,320
Speaker 2: That is the criteria of what is needed is different

121
00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:16,960
Speaker 2: now in a head coach for the Bills than what

122
00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:21,560
Speaker 2: was needed nine years ago. Nine years ago, you needed discipline,

123
00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:28,119
Speaker 2: a clear vision, a defined process on how the daily

124
00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:31,119
Speaker 2: operation was going to run. Now, that to a great

125
00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:34,720
Speaker 2: degree has been ingrained here over the last nine years.

126
00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:36,840
Speaker 2: And look, the new head coach may want to tweak it,

127
00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:40,280
Speaker 2: change it to some degree, sure, but it functions very

128
00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:45,640
Speaker 2: well in this building. So do you need someone familiar

129
00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:52,480
Speaker 2: with how that operation ran? Right and you carry that forward?

130
00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:57,480
Speaker 2: Because a lot of people have said, Steve, this is

131
00:07:57,560 --> 00:08:00,880
Speaker 2: not something that even the people that spoke at the

132
00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:04,240
Speaker 2: press conference yesterday said needed to be torn down into

133
00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:04,800
Speaker 2: the studs.

134
00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:08,480
Speaker 1: Right, What is the extent of a change that you is.

135
00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:10,560
Speaker 1: We're gonna probably this will be one of the topic

136
00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:12,800
Speaker 1: what does the extent of change you feel as necessary,

137
00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:15,520
Speaker 1: because you're talking about just get him over the hump,

138
00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:17,200
Speaker 1: you know, that's all we need to do. Just get

139
00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:19,720
Speaker 1: one guy to give us that last game, to get

140
00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:22,360
Speaker 1: us there, you know what I'm saying. Or do you

141
00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:23,920
Speaker 1: want a guy to come in here and say, wait, wait, wait,

142
00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:25,559
Speaker 1: here's what we're gonna do. Now, we're gonna do this.

143
00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:27,040
Speaker 1: This is you need to you know what I mean.

144
00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:31,920
Speaker 1: There's always the chiming in the background. You know you

145
00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:34,000
Speaker 1: need to you need to change it up a great deal.

146
00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:35,640
Speaker 1: If you're gonna do the same thing, you shouldn't have

147
00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:37,240
Speaker 1: got rid of the other guy, right.

148
00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:39,600
Speaker 2: But that doesn't mean to change everything.

149
00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:42,559
Speaker 1: Right, there's some things about the culture here and that

150
00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:46,360
Speaker 1: made this place competitive each and every year. How much

151
00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:48,520
Speaker 1: of an overhaul needs to be done? What's the what

152
00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:53,000
Speaker 1: would this next guy do? Now? Having somebody who was

153
00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:57,559
Speaker 1: familiar with how successful it was and why might be beneficial.

154
00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:06,160
Speaker 1: But there are other teams who have been successful and

155
00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:12,240
Speaker 1: other coaches who have seen that success. And I'm saying, yes,

156
00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:14,880
Speaker 1: those teams are different than but it's all pro football,

157
00:09:15,040 --> 00:09:17,520
Speaker 1: and he probably don't have to blow the whole thing

158
00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:20,000
Speaker 1: up to change it to a different you know, to

159
00:09:20,040 --> 00:09:22,480
Speaker 1: that guy's level of success or what he thinks it

160
00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:25,120
Speaker 1: would take to be successful. It might you're not you know,

161
00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:27,320
Speaker 1: you might be painting a wall instead of knocking the

162
00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:31,800
Speaker 1: wall down right, that kind of stuff. That's the real

163
00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:34,839
Speaker 1: interesting thing about this. Something will change. There'd be certain

164
00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:36,839
Speaker 1: things will never We may never know what they are.

165
00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:40,560
Speaker 1: We may never be privy to we may never be

166
00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:44,320
Speaker 1: privy to know what kind of subtle or big changes.

167
00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:45,719
Speaker 1: You know that you'll hear it from the players. Well

168
00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:49,960
Speaker 1: this is a little different. That's a little different. But

169
00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:53,839
Speaker 1: something's going to change no matter what. You don't have

170
00:09:53,920 --> 00:09:57,800
Speaker 1: a job this big, full of this many responsibilities, with

171
00:09:57,880 --> 00:10:00,280
Speaker 1: this many irons in the fire all the time time

172
00:10:01,679 --> 00:10:05,480
Speaker 1: and not have it be much different from the guy

173
00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:11,520
Speaker 1: who did it before you. That's a real question. How

174
00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:13,280
Speaker 1: And I think that's got to be part of the

175
00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:14,440
Speaker 1: interview process, right.

176
00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:19,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, unquestionably so. Lou Anoumo schedule to interview this afternoon.

177
00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:22,960
Speaker 2: Bill's head coaching candidate. Anthony Lynn, who's the run game

178
00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:27,120
Speaker 2: coordinator for the Commanders former interim head coach and offensive

179
00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:33,160
Speaker 2: coordinator here will interview with Buffalo on Saturday. According to reports, Meanwhile,

180
00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:37,520
Speaker 2: head coaching candidate Grant Yudinsky, offensive coordinator for Jacksonville, will

181
00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:40,880
Speaker 2: have his second head coaching interview Friday with the Browns.

182
00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:44,240
Speaker 2: He will then have his first interview with the Bills

183
00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:48,320
Speaker 2: on Sunday, according to reports. So that's kind of the

184
00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:53,840
Speaker 2: latest on the Bill's coaching interview schedule. And to this point,

185
00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:57,120
Speaker 2: Yadinsky the youngest of the head coaching candidates at just

186
00:10:57,240 --> 00:11:01,680
Speaker 2: age thirty. We anticipate that the list could get longer,

187
00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:06,880
Speaker 2: but right now there are a host of potential candidates

188
00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:10,520
Speaker 2: that the Bills can't even speak with because they are

189
00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:13,360
Speaker 2: on the staffs of teams that are still playing football.

190
00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:17,120
Speaker 2: So we'll see if that list expands, you know, come

191
00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:21,160
Speaker 2: next week. Josh Allen is among the finalists for the

192
00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:27,640
Speaker 2: league's MVP award. The others Matt Stafford, Drake May, Trevor Lawrence,

193
00:11:27,679 --> 00:11:30,000
Speaker 2: and Christian McCaffrey. That announce him being made by the

194
00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:34,760
Speaker 2: Associated Press earlier today. Stafford and May are considered the

195
00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:39,600
Speaker 2: favorites for this year's MVP. So those are the Bills

196
00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:43,079
Speaker 2: news and notes there. Let's go around the NFL quickly

197
00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:47,000
Speaker 2: to tell you what other coaching carousel news is going on.

198
00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:50,320
Speaker 2: Around the NFL presented by Kalida Healthy, official healthcare system

199
00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:54,120
Speaker 2: of the Buffalo Bills. Tampa Bay Buccaneers finalizing a deal

200
00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:58,320
Speaker 2: to higher former Atlanta Falcons offensive coordinator Zach Robinson as

201
00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:02,720
Speaker 2: their OC. Robinson not brought back in Atlanta following the

202
00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:07,560
Speaker 2: firing of coach Raheem Morris. Former Brown's offensive coordinator Tommy

203
00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:11,640
Speaker 2: Rees is following his former head coach in Cleveland to Atlanta.

204
00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:15,479
Speaker 2: Reees has officially signed on as OC for the Falcons

205
00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:20,920
Speaker 2: under Kevin Stefanski. Baltimore Ravens completed a second interview with

206
00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:25,720
Speaker 2: Chargers defensive coordinator Jesse Minter for their head coaching posts,

207
00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:28,720
Speaker 2: so the Raven's already in the second round of interviews

208
00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:32,360
Speaker 2: with candidates as they whittle their list down. Dolphin's new

209
00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:35,720
Speaker 2: head coach Jeff Halfley introduced to the media in South

210
00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:40,199
Speaker 2: Florida today. Halfley said he does plan to call defensive

211
00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:44,280
Speaker 2: plays in year one as head coach, and Hafley has

212
00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:48,040
Speaker 2: already put in an interview request for Texans quarterbacks coach

213
00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:53,880
Speaker 2: Gerard Johnson for their vacant offensive coordinator position. So that's

214
00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:58,559
Speaker 2: kind of the latest on the coaching positional news around

215
00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:01,640
Speaker 2: the league and jobs still waiting to be filled. Six

216
00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:06,080
Speaker 2: head coaching jobs still sitting out there to be filled.

217
00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:09,959
Speaker 2: And that's where it kind of sits as of this moment.

218
00:13:10,040 --> 00:13:15,679
Speaker 2: Obviously subject to change. So we'll see what goes on today, tomorrow,

219
00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:18,800
Speaker 2: the next day as a lot of these jobs are

220
00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:24,720
Speaker 2: being jockeyed for by candidates. Topic of discussion for you today,

221
00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:31,400
Speaker 2: what is your number one criteria in identifying the bills

222
00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:35,480
Speaker 2: next head coach? You tell us at eight oh three

223
00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:39,120
Speaker 2: oh five point fifty one eighty eight, five point fifty two,

224
00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:41,400
Speaker 2: five point fifty those are the numbers to jump on

225
00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:45,360
Speaker 2: board with us. We lead off today with Dan out

226
00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:46,680
Speaker 2: in Rochester. What's up Dan?

227
00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:49,559
Speaker 4: Yeah? Well, can I go off to subject Chris a

228
00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:51,560
Speaker 4: little bit? Yea, hey, Chris, I'm gonna miss out on

229
00:13:51,640 --> 00:13:52,960
Speaker 4: I'm gonna miss down on the radio.

230
00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:55,120
Speaker 2: Man, appreciate that.

231
00:13:55,920 --> 00:13:58,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, I watching you every week, man, guy, I had

232
00:13:58,080 --> 00:13:59,840
Speaker 4: the radio over for this week. But then you know,

233
00:13:59,880 --> 00:14:01,960
Speaker 4: we got screwed again on the place.

234
00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:04,120
Speaker 2: I hear you, I hear you.

235
00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:04,960
Speaker 5: Get over.

236
00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:08,480
Speaker 4: It goes back to two thousand christ Will Music City Miracle.

237
00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:11,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, five years home run throw forward.

238
00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:15,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, how about the Sabers called the nineteen ninety nine times.

239
00:14:15,559 --> 00:14:16,520
Speaker 2: I was there for that too.

240
00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:18,160
Speaker 1: I was there. I was there.

241
00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:20,520
Speaker 4: I been up with the New York Western New York

242
00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:22,880
Speaker 4: my whole life. You gotta put up with this crap, you.

243
00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:24,360
Speaker 1: Know currently we do.

244
00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:27,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm I'm waiting to see if two more officials

245
00:14:27,760 --> 00:14:30,600
Speaker 2: get fired this year after two got fired last year

246
00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:32,840
Speaker 2: for the bad spot on the sea.

247
00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:35,680
Speaker 4: Your whole great career, Steve, were you won the two

248
00:14:35,680 --> 00:14:37,400
Speaker 4: thousands teat in the two thousand teen.

249
00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:40,240
Speaker 1: I was not. I was not. In fact that I

250
00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:43,000
Speaker 1: was gone two years before that season. That was my

251
00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:45,800
Speaker 1: second season retired. And that's the only time I ever

252
00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:50,840
Speaker 1: felt that I would have made a difference if i'd

253
00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:53,400
Speaker 1: have been there. That's the only time I would say, man,

254
00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:56,520
Speaker 1: that's things I would have thought, Oh no, I saw

255
00:14:56,560 --> 00:14:59,600
Speaker 1: it coming from a mile away, and I thought, no,

256
00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:03,280
Speaker 1: you got it, you know, and they yeah. So that's

257
00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:05,240
Speaker 1: the only time I was covering the team all the time,

258
00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:06,960
Speaker 1: But I was not at that game. That's the only

259
00:15:07,040 --> 00:15:10,280
Speaker 1: time in my post career that I thought, yep, I

260
00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:15,600
Speaker 1: would have been ba and uh gress.

261
00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:18,080
Speaker 2: Okay, dable's your guy.

262
00:15:17,520 --> 00:15:20,800
Speaker 4: Jobe radio fluck, I'm gonna miss you guys on the radio.

263
00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:24,720
Speaker 2: I appreciate you listening. I appreciate you listening to the games. Dan,

264
00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:26,720
Speaker 2: thanks very much. Got to move along though, because we

265
00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:28,680
Speaker 2: had a lot of people waiting for us. But yes,

266
00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:32,480
Speaker 2: we share your pain. Yeah, it seems to happen year

267
00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:35,920
Speaker 2: after year, and the bills are very often the victims

268
00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:39,800
Speaker 2: of poor officiating. Uh, let's go to Mike in Syracuse next.

269
00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:43,440
Speaker 2: What's up, Mike, how you guys doing good?

270
00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:49,440
Speaker 6: Go ahead, long time listener, big fan for over forty years,

271
00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:54,160
Speaker 6: back obviously back in the days with the four Super Bowls. Steve,

272
00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:56,400
Speaker 6: thanks for all you did for the for the team

273
00:15:56,440 --> 00:15:59,680
Speaker 6: back then and moving forward. But guys, bottom line is

274
00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:01,840
Speaker 6: too like people got to you know, I you listen

275
00:16:01,880 --> 00:16:03,840
Speaker 6: to social media and this and that.

276
00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:06,160
Speaker 5: People got to just pull the band aid off.

277
00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:08,440
Speaker 6: I mean, they want to live in the past and

278
00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:12,120
Speaker 6: bring up yesterday, bringing up Keon Coleman. You know, Steve,

279
00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:14,320
Speaker 6: I think you alluded to it yesterday. This isn't about

280
00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:16,760
Speaker 6: you know, Keon Coleman. You know, I mean, these guys

281
00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:20,080
Speaker 6: are professionals. Okay, we've got to move ahead. We've got

282
00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:23,520
Speaker 6: to move ahead and go forward and try to get

283
00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:26,440
Speaker 6: over the hump and and listen. I like Sean McDermott,

284
00:16:26,600 --> 00:16:28,960
Speaker 6: great guy, great coach. I don't know him personally I

285
00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:31,520
Speaker 6: can say that, but you know he did He did

286
00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:33,960
Speaker 6: a lot for this, for this organization, There's no question

287
00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:37,000
Speaker 6: about that. But you know, time after time after time,

288
00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:40,480
Speaker 6: you know, uh, how many times are we going to

289
00:16:40,560 --> 00:16:42,360
Speaker 6: go through you know, somewhat of the same thing. And

290
00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:44,320
Speaker 6: and mister you.

291
00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:45,240
Speaker 5: Know, he alluded to that.

292
00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:47,720
Speaker 6: So you know, people just got to get over it

293
00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:50,000
Speaker 6: and move on the biggest thing I'd like to see,

294
00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:53,760
Speaker 6: you know, is bringing in, obviously somebody who can you know,

295
00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:55,960
Speaker 6: hold the locker room. I think that's that's going to

296
00:16:56,040 --> 00:16:58,200
Speaker 6: be very important. It makes me a little nervous with

297
00:16:58,200 --> 00:16:58,760
Speaker 6: with one.

298
00:16:58,640 --> 00:17:00,880
Speaker 3: Of these younger guys, but you gotta do it.

299
00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:04,359
Speaker 6: Look at Seattle, I don't know what are your guys'

300
00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:07,880
Speaker 6: thoughts on that? And Steve just I got on that.

301
00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:09,920
Speaker 6: You know, what were the thoughts of, you know, losing

302
00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:12,960
Speaker 6: four Super Bowls, you know, back and then with Marv Levy?

303
00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:15,000
Speaker 6: I mean, how did people get through that too? I mean,

304
00:17:15,040 --> 00:17:16,120
Speaker 6: Marv's the greatest ever.

305
00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:23,040
Speaker 1: Thanks guys, Yeah, yeah, that's good. Well, it's it's easier

306
00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:24,760
Speaker 1: for the players and coaches. I've said this a bunch.

307
00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:26,720
Speaker 1: It's easier for the players and coaches to move on

308
00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:29,760
Speaker 1: because they can start working towards the next one. They

309
00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:31,960
Speaker 1: can start thinking about a goal they have in mind

310
00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:35,360
Speaker 1: to get back. One of the most stressful environments I've

311
00:17:35,359 --> 00:17:39,560
Speaker 1: ever seen or been a part of, was the run

312
00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:43,240
Speaker 1: to the playoffs in Super Bowl twenty six after we

313
00:17:43,280 --> 00:17:47,439
Speaker 1: had lost, after we had lost by wide right and

314
00:17:47,560 --> 00:17:50,919
Speaker 1: came back the next year. We were on an absolute

315
00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:54,560
Speaker 1: mission and the pressure we put on ourselves was off

316
00:17:54,600 --> 00:17:58,639
Speaker 1: the charts. We had guys practicing with the flu, guys

317
00:17:58,640 --> 00:18:02,280
Speaker 1: playing when they were in I was getting shot up

318
00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:09,240
Speaker 1: with painkillers just to practice. It was that environment, and

319
00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:13,639
Speaker 1: nobody batter an eye. Let's go. That's how much of

320
00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:16,280
Speaker 1: a you know, pressure we put on ourselves to get

321
00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:19,439
Speaker 1: back because we felt we deprived ourselves of the championship.

322
00:18:20,920 --> 00:18:24,000
Speaker 1: So it it will stick with these guys, Josh and

323
00:18:24,040 --> 00:18:26,720
Speaker 1: these guys unless they get the ultimate prize, then it

324
00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:29,600
Speaker 1: all just goes into the journey, right, This will all

325
00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:32,000
Speaker 1: just be part of their growing process if they win

326
00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:35,280
Speaker 1: a champion or when they win a championship. For us, UH,

327
00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:39,320
Speaker 1: it was never fulfilling because you're always tormented right by

328
00:18:39,359 --> 00:18:42,200
Speaker 1: your shortcomings. You never you never get the last laugh

329
00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:45,359
Speaker 1: in any argument. That's that's what you got to carry

330
00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:47,399
Speaker 1: with you forward. And right now these guys are carrying that.

331
00:18:47,400 --> 00:18:50,879
Speaker 1: They have been since Josh turned, you know, since twenty twenty.

332
00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:56,399
Speaker 1: They're carrying this torch of tormented success without ever really

333
00:18:56,560 --> 00:18:58,399
Speaker 1: getting there. They can never have that. They never have

334
00:18:58,480 --> 00:19:00,520
Speaker 1: the last word. They always lose that last game, right,

335
00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:04,840
Speaker 1: They always lose that last argument. So that's where they're at.

336
00:19:05,160 --> 00:19:08,400
Speaker 1: You just you keep plugging and soon and you heal up,

337
00:19:08,480 --> 00:19:10,720
Speaker 1: you get over it, You spend some time away, you

338
00:19:10,760 --> 00:19:13,040
Speaker 1: come back, start training, you start to get back together

339
00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:15,960
Speaker 1: with your old teammates now your new teammates and your

340
00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:18,240
Speaker 1: new coach, and it's like, okay, now you get excited

341
00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:19,679
Speaker 1: about it and you want to compete again, and then

342
00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:23,320
Speaker 1: you're off and running. It's just a process. That's where

343
00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:25,439
Speaker 1: they're going to be for a while. And right now

344
00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:30,199
Speaker 1: it's a little bit of limbo for everybody. Right they

345
00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:32,600
Speaker 1: don't know they don't even have any place to show

346
00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:35,600
Speaker 1: up to, so they don't have a team to come

347
00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:38,240
Speaker 1: back and meet with, they don't have a coach to

348
00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:40,160
Speaker 1: talk to, they don't even know who their position coaches

349
00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:43,560
Speaker 1: are going to be So it's a time of limbo

350
00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:47,280
Speaker 1: for the players, a time of great uncertainty, and that's

351
00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:48,240
Speaker 1: where they're going to live.

352
00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:51,080
Speaker 2: For a while. And then Mike as for young coach,

353
00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:54,479
Speaker 2: veteran coach, and all of that, I think we have

354
00:19:54,560 --> 00:20:01,439
Speaker 2: to remember in this franchise's history, this is as unique

355
00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:05,879
Speaker 2: a situation as you can find in terms of where

356
00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:10,600
Speaker 2: the team is success wise and the kind of person

357
00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:13,720
Speaker 2: you need to come in and lead it. Because even

358
00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:18,560
Speaker 2: when Marv retired no offense, Steve, but that team was

359
00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:19,760
Speaker 2: already on the decline.

360
00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:21,160
Speaker 1: Sure absolutely they.

361
00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:24,800
Speaker 2: Didn't go to the playoffs in Marv's final season, they

362
00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:31,359
Speaker 2: were six and ten. So even that and what was

363
00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:35,080
Speaker 2: inherited there by Wade Phillips was in stark contrast to

364
00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:37,959
Speaker 2: what the new head coach here now will inherit. The

365
00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:43,080
Speaker 2: only thing that I think comes close is when Lou

366
00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:47,800
Speaker 2: Saban left after sixty five winning the AFL title and

367
00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:52,399
Speaker 2: Joe Collier was the defensive coordinator on that staff and

368
00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:55,440
Speaker 2: asked to pick it up. That was a hire from

369
00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:58,400
Speaker 2: within to keep what was a championship team as intact

370
00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:00,520
Speaker 2: as possible. They went all the way back to the

371
00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:04,840
Speaker 2: AFL title game in sixty six and lost to the Chiefs.

372
00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:08,359
Speaker 2: That's the only thing that I think is remotely close

373
00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:13,120
Speaker 2: in the trajectory of this team to what a new

374
00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:17,560
Speaker 2: head coach will be inheriting here now. It's a very unique.

375
00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:19,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, not too many people can remember what that was like,

376
00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:21,760
Speaker 1: I mean right back, and I certainly don't remember. I

377
00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:25,480
Speaker 1: just here that and it's this. Not too many teams

378
00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:29,800
Speaker 1: have been through this. Because we'll say it again, this

379
00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:35,000
Speaker 1: team has had the most success of any franchise ever

380
00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:37,240
Speaker 1: without ever reaching a Super Bowl. In this in the

381
00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:40,760
Speaker 1: Sean McDermott era, they had more success than any team

382
00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:43,760
Speaker 1: has ever had and not had a Super Bowl appearance.

383
00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:48,800
Speaker 1: That's part of the reason the change was made is that.

384
00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:54,040
Speaker 1: And so this is a different animal and everybody involved,

385
00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:56,960
Speaker 1: no matter how long you've been in the league, it's new.

386
00:21:57,040 --> 00:21:59,760
Speaker 1: It's uncharted territory, whether you've had been on a whether

387
00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:01,960
Speaker 1: in that people on the staff or the coaches have

388
00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:04,360
Speaker 1: been on a staff that got fired and coming it's

389
00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:08,640
Speaker 1: it's a little unprecedented for just about everybody. It's a unique,

390
00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:14,040
Speaker 1: different opportunity to be the head coach here in Buffalo

391
00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:18,000
Speaker 1: at this point in history. It's not like any other

392
00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:25,200
Speaker 1: opportunity that's come along, maybe since maybe since Bill Cower

393
00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:28,240
Speaker 1: left Pittsburgh with Ben Roethlisberg, a super Bowl winning coach,

394
00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:32,320
Speaker 1: he stepped away or George Seaffert, George San Francisco and

395
00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:36,040
Speaker 1: then replaced by Steve Mariucci, who I believe was on

396
00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:39,560
Speaker 1: the staff right promotion from within, but even Seafert was

397
00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:41,320
Speaker 1: promoted after Bill Walsh.

398
00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:43,480
Speaker 2: Was correctly because they were trying to hold that together

399
00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:47,000
Speaker 2: and he did something that was the super Bowl.

400
00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:48,480
Speaker 1: They wanted and they won a super Bowl.

401
00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:53,040
Speaker 2: With George fifth, so or fourth.

402
00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:55,159
Speaker 1: All of that is, you know, all that's in the

403
00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:57,520
Speaker 1: mix here. It's it's not often that you get a

404
00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:01,119
Speaker 1: team with a vacant and he had head coach in

405
00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:07,159
Speaker 1: this situation, plus well, I mean George Seffert. It's a

406
00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:12,240
Speaker 1: great example. The bar is high. I mean, Sean McDermott

407
00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:14,359
Speaker 1: was revered and loved by Bill's fans and the players.

408
00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:16,600
Speaker 1: I mean, there's there's nothing to not like about the guy.

409
00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:20,760
Speaker 1: But it was professionally time to make a change. Something

410
00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:25,320
Speaker 1: had to give once you got to this all time

411
00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:28,600
Speaker 1: record stuff, and with the amount of success you've had

412
00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:32,040
Speaker 1: and not the amount of results you've needed. Change had

413
00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:32,480
Speaker 1: to happen.

414
00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:35,359
Speaker 2: I mean, here we are. Marty Schottenheimer was fired after

415
00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:38,880
Speaker 2: a fourteen and two season in two thousand.

416
00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:40,240
Speaker 1: And that was six and that was close.

417
00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:42,639
Speaker 2: Team did not win a playoff game. They got bounced

418
00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:46,480
Speaker 2: in the first round of the playoffs divisional divisional round.

419
00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:49,960
Speaker 2: But they had a bye, they had a buy. Their

420
00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:52,080
Speaker 2: kicker missed three field goals, if I remember right in

421
00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:53,480
Speaker 2: that game, Nate cating.

422
00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:58,600
Speaker 1: And Marty had a reputation for tightening up with the

423
00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:02,520
Speaker 1: lead late. He had a he had that was his.

424
00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:08,800
Speaker 2: Now he was replaced by a veteran offensive coach, NORV Turner.

425
00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:12,679
Speaker 1: So and they got to the championship game with norf

426
00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:19,320
Speaker 1: and Philip Rivers. But it wasn't until Bobby Ross came

427
00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:23,240
Speaker 1: along and they had Stan Humphries. No, I was I'm sorry.

428
00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:27,600
Speaker 2: Stan Humphreys was back in ninety five they lost the

429
00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:30,440
Speaker 2: Super Bowl. Yeah, that's right to the Niners and Steve

430
00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:31,560
Speaker 2: Young who.

431
00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:34,119
Speaker 1: Was the who was the head coach of the Humphries.

432
00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:36,639
Speaker 2: Was that Bobby Ross? I think it was believe it

433
00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:40,280
Speaker 2: was Bobby Ross. Yeah, yeah, so yeah, a lot of

434
00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:42,399
Speaker 2: decisions that have to be made, and we want you

435
00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:43,199
Speaker 2: to weigh in on it.

436
00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:44,680
Speaker 1: What is you kind of got We got off the

437
00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:46,560
Speaker 1: rails here for a second, but yeah, the point is

438
00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:53,040
Speaker 1: this is a unique opportunity, different kind of quarterback atmosphere, expectations,

439
00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:56,959
Speaker 1: whatever you think about the roster, whether it was proven

440
00:24:57,160 --> 00:24:59,920
Speaker 1: or whether there was a duddy roster or a great roster,

441
00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:04,200
Speaker 1: whether Josh had the weapons or wasn't. Where they're winning

442
00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:07,000
Speaker 1: a playoff game every year, that's a high floor.

443
00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:10,199
Speaker 2: So what is your number one criteria and identifying the

444
00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:13,040
Speaker 2: Bill's next head coach? Ado three oh five fifty. We'll

445
00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:14,920
Speaker 2: take a break here, but get back to your phone

446
00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:17,600
Speaker 2: calls when we return. Stay tuned here on One Bill's Live.

447
00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:38,920
Speaker 2: What is your number one criteria in identifying the Bill's

448
00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:41,320
Speaker 2: next head coach? You let us know at heito three

449
00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:43,760
Speaker 2: oh five fifty or on the tweets sheet at one

450
00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:46,200
Speaker 2: Bill's Live. Back to the phones and to Jack in

451
00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:47,680
Speaker 2: ken Moore, what's up Jack?

452
00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:52,879
Speaker 7: Okay, guys, and that's how I feel. Okay, you'll have

453
00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:56,560
Speaker 7: your opinions and everything, and I appreciate that, but I

454
00:25:56,680 --> 00:26:00,800
Speaker 7: do not want a guy that's a retread. I can't

455
00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:04,360
Speaker 7: see bringing Gable here to coaches football team that will

456
00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:07,880
Speaker 7: be an insult to Sean McDermott, who did a great

457
00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:11,040
Speaker 7: job here in Buffalo for US. Okay, but we can't

458
00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:14,640
Speaker 7: get over the up. I want a young offensive coordinator

459
00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:18,879
Speaker 7: that's invented with the offense, not Joe Brady either. I

460
00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:22,760
Speaker 7: want them to go get the kid from Seattle, QBAC okay,

461
00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:26,280
Speaker 7: and they should do. And I think he knows. He

462
00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:29,679
Speaker 7: must know because he watches TV or whatever. He's got

463
00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:32,280
Speaker 7: an inside circle, but we can't talk to him. I

464
00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:34,960
Speaker 7: want Seattle to win the Super Bowl, but I want

465
00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:37,639
Speaker 7: this guy in Buffalo because I think he'll really be

466
00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:41,119
Speaker 7: good here because he's young. He'll motivate the football team.

467
00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:43,840
Speaker 7: He knows football, or he wouldn't be in this position

468
00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:46,040
Speaker 7: he's at. Hey, Jack, you have to bring up we

469
00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:49,320
Speaker 7: have to bring somebody in here to really move this

470
00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:50,240
Speaker 7: football team.

471
00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:51,920
Speaker 1: Jack, he get to the super Bowl.

472
00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:54,560
Speaker 7: Hey Jack, he get to the Super Bowl, you shouldn't

473
00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:57,600
Speaker 7: have got rid of McDermott. Jack, that's my bottom line. Jack.

474
00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:00,680
Speaker 1: Are you worried at all about maybe like how long

475
00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:02,760
Speaker 1: it'll take him to get up to speed or anything

476
00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:04,680
Speaker 1: like that. I mean there might be a learning curver.

477
00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:06,679
Speaker 1: Does that bother you at all? No?

478
00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:09,840
Speaker 7: No, No, it doesn't. Okay, I just don't want Gable here,

479
00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:11,080
Speaker 7: and I don't want Brady here.

480
00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:14,439
Speaker 2: Changed, Jack, let me ask you this, what if Dabele

481
00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:18,560
Speaker 2: came here and his offensive coordinator was Davis Webb and

482
00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:21,840
Speaker 2: his defensive coordinator was Jim Schwartz, would that change your mind?

483
00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:24,080
Speaker 7: I told you I don't want Gable being a head

484
00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:26,159
Speaker 7: coach at the Buffalville. I think gets a kick in

485
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:31,000
Speaker 7: the face to Sean McDermott. Well along, in the end.

486
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:33,520
Speaker 2: They did have good success together, right.

487
00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:35,960
Speaker 7: Yeah, well yeah, but he wanted him to run the

488
00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:37,720
Speaker 7: ball more and he was showing the ball all over

489
00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:40,879
Speaker 7: the yard. He was a failure with the Giants. I

490
00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:43,520
Speaker 7: don't want to I don't want to retrust. I don't

491
00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:45,600
Speaker 7: want guy that was a head coach before. To talk

492
00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:47,480
Speaker 7: about Belichick too, I don't want him.

493
00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:51,560
Speaker 2: I want to reutr Jack wants to go young.

494
00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:53,440
Speaker 1: I got you, Jack, that's and that's a fair, And

495
00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:54,600
Speaker 1: that's that's a fair.

496
00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:56,800
Speaker 2: And Clint Kubiak is a good candidate.

497
00:27:56,960 --> 00:28:00,040
Speaker 1: He's a very good candidate, and he's still there for

498
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:05,600
Speaker 1: a reason. And I'll say this too, I have no

499
00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:11,920
Speaker 1: skin in the game with Sam Donald. But if if

500
00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:14,000
Speaker 1: you can do it with Sam Donald. I know that

501
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:17,600
Speaker 1: Mike o'donald Michae O'Connell in Minnesota had a good year

502
00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:24,000
Speaker 1: with Kevin O'Connell. Kevin O'Connor o'donald McDaniel inge. Okay, Kevin

503
00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:30,480
Speaker 1: O'Connell is that right? Yes, I apologize has done had

504
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:34,520
Speaker 1: a fourteen win season with Sam Donald in Minnesota. This

505
00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:37,360
Speaker 1: year they had a fourteen win season with Sam Donald

506
00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:45,320
Speaker 1: in Seattle. Sam Donald is not as good as Josh Allen,

507
00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:52,560
Speaker 1: So yeah, I have high expectations if they can get

508
00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:53,640
Speaker 1: a guy like Clint Kubiak.

509
00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:58,240
Speaker 2: Right, We should note that Clint Kubiak has already interviewed

510
00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:07,120
Speaker 2: with the following jobs that are still open Arizona, Las Vegas, Baltimore.

511
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:10,000
Speaker 2: Well interest from Baltimore. I don't know if they got

512
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:12,520
Speaker 2: to him in time, but he has interviewed with Arizona,

513
00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:14,880
Speaker 2: Las Vegas, Atlanta, and the Giants. Atlanta and the Giants

514
00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:17,280
Speaker 2: have filled their jobs. Arizona and Las Vegas have not.

515
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:20,560
Speaker 2: The reason why they already interviewed him is because they

516
00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:23,320
Speaker 2: interviewed him during the window when Seattle was on their

517
00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:26,400
Speaker 2: bye week. Obviously, the Bills were still playing football then,

518
00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:31,000
Speaker 2: so they've already interviewed him once. Bills have yet to

519
00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:34,080
Speaker 2: interview him because they can't, so hopefully that doesn't put

520
00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:36,160
Speaker 2: a fly in the ointment there as far as his

521
00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:38,920
Speaker 2: candidacy with Buffalo is concerned. If in fact he's named

522
00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:41,280
Speaker 2: a candidate, he hasn't even been named a candidate yet,

523
00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:45,600
Speaker 2: that could still happen. Obviously. Let's go to Carol in Tanawanda.

524
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:46,320
Speaker 2: What's up Carol?

525
00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:49,040
Speaker 8: Hi, guys, thank you. I have a lot on my

526
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:51,360
Speaker 8: chest and things to say. Hope you'll let me get

527
00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:54,760
Speaker 8: through this. As far as I'm concerned, being in Pagula

528
00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:59,480
Speaker 8: were consummate professionals. They clearly completed the course on circumventing

529
00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:03,480
Speaker 8: answering questions and in business it's business as usual with

530
00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:06,480
Speaker 8: no feelings. But my belief is that Bean is not

531
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:08,680
Speaker 8: innocent in all of this, and yet he gets the

532
00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:12,120
Speaker 8: promotion and controls all which is a further cost for concern.

533
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:16,560
Speaker 8: In business, no matter how stullar your performance or resume is,

534
00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:18,760
Speaker 8: they can let you go if you don't fit the mold.

535
00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:23,400
Speaker 8: I believe McDermott will land on his feet. And sometimes

536
00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:25,920
Speaker 8: professionally you don't achieve what you set out to do,

537
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:29,400
Speaker 8: so you have to resort elsewhere or do something different.

538
00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:32,960
Speaker 8: I don't know much about all the coaches. I'm certainly

539
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:36,320
Speaker 8: not an expert, but my opinion day Ball isn't strong enough,

540
00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:39,760
Speaker 8: Brady is not seasoned, McDaniel is two weak and he's

541
00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:43,920
Speaker 8: going elsewhere. Tomlin is out. Belichick would be interesting, and

542
00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:47,080
Speaker 8: I'm not too sure about Web and the others in

543
00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:51,000
Speaker 8: this process. Players have to have some ownership as well.

544
00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:53,520
Speaker 8: They need to come to every game with grit and

545
00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:58,560
Speaker 8: urgency to win, and that's an arduous task to do.

546
00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:02,120
Speaker 8: They also the team has a great foundation for a

547
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:05,640
Speaker 8: new coach, and there's multiple leadership styles to fit the

548
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:09,080
Speaker 8: situation week to week, and you can't always be the

549
00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:12,920
Speaker 8: nice guy. I think something that would be interesting as well.

550
00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:16,600
Speaker 8: It's done in other businesses, is too. If you really

551
00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:20,600
Speaker 8: want to have a transparent and open interview process, include

552
00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:23,880
Speaker 8: some members from your fan base. I'd be interested in

553
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:25,920
Speaker 8: what you have to say, so thank you.

554
00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:31,440
Speaker 2: By okay, Carol. I was on board with all of that.

555
00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:38,240
Speaker 2: The fan base thing is interesting. I don't know how

556
00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:46,120
Speaker 2: realistic it is. With all due respect, I think that

557
00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:51,080
Speaker 2: football people have to make football decisions at the end

558
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:54,200
Speaker 2: of the day, and those are the people, the vast

559
00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:56,880
Speaker 2: majority of which are going to be weighing in on

560
00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:03,760
Speaker 2: this head coaching decision. Chief among them Brandon Bean, Terry Pagoula,

561
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:07,840
Speaker 2: and assistant gms Brian Gain and Terrence Gray. There are

562
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:09,520
Speaker 2: others Josh Allen, Laura.

563
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:15,280
Speaker 1: Pegoula, but those people with deep football backgrounds are needed

564
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:20,160
Speaker 1: and necessary for a decision like this. Yeah, and all

565
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:22,640
Speaker 1: that stuff you said about all the candidates, and I

566
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:25,640
Speaker 1: get it. Everybody has a different perception of every name

567
00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:27,760
Speaker 1: on the list, and some of them are complete strangers

568
00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:30,880
Speaker 1: to all of us. Clint Kubiak, you recognize him because

569
00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:34,800
Speaker 1: he's Gary Kubiak, one of Gary Kubiak's sons. Gary Kubiak

570
00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 1: a former player, former head coach, former coordinator, and his

571
00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:43,520
Speaker 1: boys followed him into the business.

572
00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:43,800
Speaker 2: Yep.

573
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:47,120
Speaker 1: And they're very good and they have a lot of

574
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:50,000
Speaker 1: people who are pounding the tech. Clint Kubiak is a

575
00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:52,320
Speaker 1: very hot commodity. I don't know that he's at the

576
00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:55,960
Speaker 1: level Ben Johnson was last year, but if you look

577
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:59,280
Speaker 1: at his track record this year with Sam Darnell, well,

578
00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:01,600
Speaker 1: he's up for assist and Coach of the Year. Yeah,

579
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:04,400
Speaker 1: he looks pretty good. So it'll be interesting to see

580
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:08,040
Speaker 1: how he handles the interview process. I don't know that

581
00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:10,720
Speaker 1: he's interviewed in years past or been on the I

582
00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:14,120
Speaker 1: think he has. He's been on a list of guys

583
00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:23,360
Speaker 1: who have done interviews. Don't underestimate how important the interview

584
00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:26,120
Speaker 1: process is. You've got to sell it. You've got to

585
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:29,120
Speaker 1: sell yourself. You've got to come up with a plan.

586
00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:32,280
Speaker 1: You've got to strike the right chord with the ownership,

587
00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:34,840
Speaker 1: with the GM, with the other people in the room,

588
00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:38,400
Speaker 1: and with the with the MVP quarterback that is also

589
00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:40,680
Speaker 1: in on the process. You've got to hit it out

590
00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:46,840
Speaker 1: of the park knowledge, personality, leadership, skills, plan philosophy, thoughts

591
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:49,280
Speaker 1: about the roster that you're going to take over, thoughts

592
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:52,800
Speaker 1: about the roster you're leaving behind. You've you've got to

593
00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:59,040
Speaker 1: know everything. And it's hard to ace that interview because

594
00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:05,640
Speaker 1: it's substantive. Maybe that's why, and that's why we've heard

595
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:08,040
Speaker 1: about it. That's why some of these guys that should

596
00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:09,600
Speaker 1: get you'd think, Wow, he's going to get a head

597
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:11,600
Speaker 1: coaching job. He's gonna head coaching job. And they never

598
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:14,360
Speaker 1: do Yeah, because they can't get through the interproview process.

599
00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:17,600
Speaker 1: Because they didn't interview. Well, it's it's a deal, so

600
00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:22,279
Speaker 1: we'll see how this plays out. I wish I had

601
00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:24,440
Speaker 1: We all have our own perceptions about every guy on

602
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:25,239
Speaker 1: the list.

603
00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:27,560
Speaker 2: Jack said he didn't want a guy who's been a

604
00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:29,759
Speaker 2: head coach before. I should have asked him what his

605
00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:32,440
Speaker 2: thoughts were on lou Anarumo, who's fifty nine years old

606
00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:34,400
Speaker 2: but has never been a head coach in the NFL.

607
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:38,560
Speaker 2: Would he consider him a retread? I don't know. He's

608
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:42,279
Speaker 2: he's never been a head coach coordinator. Yeah, that's a

609
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:45,600
Speaker 2: different he did. He did say he wanted a young guy,

610
00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:48,560
Speaker 2: so yeah he did. Let's go to Ryan in Toronto

611
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:49,520
Speaker 2: and next, what's up Ryan?

612
00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:51,280
Speaker 9: Chris Steve.

613
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:54,799
Speaker 10: I was very disappointed when mcdomangard let go, but regardless're

614
00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:58,680
Speaker 10: going to move forward. Why man considered? Why have we

615
00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:01,919
Speaker 10: We are not talking about Frank right right. This guy

616
00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:04,759
Speaker 10: was a quarterback for the Bills, and I think in

617
00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:08,400
Speaker 10: ninety two nighty four he came back against he was

618
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:11,560
Speaker 10: down back up quarterback for Jim Kelly Iday. I can't

619
00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:15,040
Speaker 10: remember exactly, but I'm not that old enough to remember it,

620
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:18,279
Speaker 10: but he was a great candidate. I think he won

621
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:22,719
Speaker 10: the Super Bowl with the Eagles, and my opinion, Bringiant

622
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:27,920
Speaker 10: Frank right, Jim Schutz from the coordinator, Doug Peterson over

623
00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:30,600
Speaker 10: the coordinator, and you have a championship, super Bowl winning

624
00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:32,800
Speaker 10: coaches on the sideline period.

625
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:38,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's an interesting choice. Ryan. I'm not one hundred

626
00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:41,840
Speaker 2: percent certain, and Steve might know better than I would,

627
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:44,520
Speaker 2: being a friend of his. I don't know if if

628
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:46,719
Speaker 2: Frank is at a point in his life where he

629
00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:51,319
Speaker 2: wants to jump back into coaching. He just did a

630
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:56,680
Speaker 2: one year stint at Stanford as a favor to Andrew Luck,

631
00:35:56,840 --> 00:36:00,840
Speaker 2: who was left with a baron coaching staff.

632
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:03,160
Speaker 1: And coach Frank Staff was there, but the head coach

633
00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:04,279
Speaker 1: got let go for.

634
00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:10,040
Speaker 2: Scandals off the field, right, So as a favor to

635
00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:13,160
Speaker 2: Andrew Luck, Frank agreed to come on coach the team

636
00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:17,120
Speaker 2: for one year only. He's now sixty four years of age.

637
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:21,160
Speaker 2: I'm not certain he wants to keep coaching. Maybe he does.

638
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:23,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know that he does either. I know

639
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:27,319
Speaker 1: that he doesn't want to. He would, and he'd go

640
00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:31,080
Speaker 1: through the process probably. I don't know. Frank is everybody knows.

641
00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:33,760
Speaker 1: He's a good friend of mine and one of the

642
00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:37,719
Speaker 1: top individuals you'll ever meet in your life for a

643
00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:38,480
Speaker 1: lot of reasons.

644
00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:42,319
Speaker 2: Probably the next closest thing to as principal the man

645
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:45,399
Speaker 2: as Sean McDermott was in terms of human being.

646
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:50,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, full of integrity and honesty, and he knows what

647
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:53,759
Speaker 1: he's doing around the football field. I don't know that

648
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:56,480
Speaker 1: he's a spot in his and from my inner my

649
00:36:56,560 --> 00:37:00,560
Speaker 1: dealings with him as was before the Stanford job, I

650
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:03,319
Speaker 1: get the feeling that he has some some I think

651
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:05,840
Speaker 1: his family's taking a higher priority at this point in

652
00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:08,560
Speaker 1: his life than it had earlier. You know how it

653
00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:11,919
Speaker 1: is when you're grinding away and trying to I think

654
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:13,400
Speaker 1: he and his wife were kind of ready to take

655
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:18,120
Speaker 1: a breath and and be done with the grind. I

656
00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:20,400
Speaker 1: know they've got a wonderful place, a new home that

657
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:23,839
Speaker 1: they're building and that kind of thing. So if he

658
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:27,759
Speaker 1: was interested, absolutely, I mean you're talking about I'm I'm

659
00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:29,759
Speaker 1: all about it. I don't know that he's interested. I

660
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:32,080
Speaker 1: don't know that he's I don't know if he fits

661
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:36,360
Speaker 1: the profile for what the Bills are looking for. But

662
00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:38,600
Speaker 1: you know, obviously it's one of my favorite people ever.

663
00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:42,920
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's interesting he saw him there. You see

664
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:45,480
Speaker 1: the highlights here he's talking and Joe Brady's there talking

665
00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:48,520
Speaker 1: to him when he's on the sidelines of Carolina coach

666
00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:50,719
Speaker 1: of Carolina, so it looked like Joe Brady I think,

667
00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:51,680
Speaker 1: I don't know if that was that. I don't know

668
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:57,280
Speaker 1: if I got time so interesting And there there's Chris

669
00:37:57,320 --> 00:38:02,520
Speaker 1: Taber right there, so okay, yeah, all of that's there.

670
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:08,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's go to Mike in Orchard Park next. What's

671
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:08,520
Speaker 2: up Mike?

672
00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:11,319
Speaker 5: Hey, guys, thanks for taking my college.

673
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:15,200
Speaker 11: For first time. I want to say, man, Sean McDermott,

674
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:17,920
Speaker 11: like I you know, my whole childhood. I you know,

675
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:20,520
Speaker 11: I want witnessed the bills that's living in the basement,

676
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:24,480
Speaker 11: and you know what Sean did for this team is unforgettable,

677
00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:28,200
Speaker 11: you know. And I know a guy like Amy Reid

678
00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:30,400
Speaker 11: that got kicked out of the door in Philadelphia went

679
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:32,600
Speaker 11: to Kansas City and was very successful. So I know

680
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:35,120
Speaker 11: Sean is a fighter and he's going to bounce back

681
00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:38,719
Speaker 11: as far as this team. Yeah, I don't know why

682
00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:41,520
Speaker 11: all this hate against Brian Dable, like I don't know

683
00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:44,040
Speaker 11: fans of for God, but you know, Brian Dables process

684
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:47,440
Speaker 11: was part of the initial process of developing Josh Allen

685
00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:51,239
Speaker 11: like that twenty twenty twenty one season, Josh Allen had

686
00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:54,479
Speaker 11: his most productive seasons as a passer. So I guess

687
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:57,799
Speaker 11: my concern is is where Josh Allen, You're going on

688
00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:00,200
Speaker 11: thirty years old? Do we have time to hire a

689
00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:04,400
Speaker 11: first time coordinator? Yeah, that has no no head coaching experience,

690
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:09,040
Speaker 11: like like Brandon Bean has to find the guy right

691
00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:09,799
Speaker 11: and what what?

692
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:11,279
Speaker 9: What is the guy for me?

693
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:13,440
Speaker 11: I'm looking for a guy like experience. We don't have

694
00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:16,800
Speaker 11: time for experiencing him with a new coordinator. Like Chicago

695
00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:21,480
Speaker 11: they have a young quarterback. We don't, so like I

696
00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:24,640
Speaker 11: don't know, like from here, from here, guys you know experiences,

697
00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:28,319
Speaker 11: you know analyzing football and stuff. You know, you know,

698
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:31,200
Speaker 11: a guy like Brian Gable or a guy with blue

699
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:33,080
Speaker 11: the them are the two guys that I'm looking at,

700
00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:35,560
Speaker 11: Like we we we don't have time to take a

701
00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:36,719
Speaker 11: year off, right.

702
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:39,319
Speaker 2: I think your I think your point, Mike is is

703
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:45,759
Speaker 2: very well taken. This is a team with enormous expectations.

704
00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:51,200
Speaker 2: And I'm not saying you can't have a first time

705
00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:55,359
Speaker 2: head coach if you believe you found a candidate who

706
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:59,000
Speaker 2: can handle what amounts to a new job as the

707
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:02,160
Speaker 2: CEO of a of a football team and locker room

708
00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:06,880
Speaker 2: and you believe they can handle that job for the

709
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:11,440
Speaker 2: first time sitting in such a chair and bring this

710
00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:15,560
Speaker 2: team to new levels of success at the same time.

711
00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:18,839
Speaker 2: And you think you have that guy, well, fine, pull

712
00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:21,680
Speaker 2: the trigger, But I think there is that is the

713
00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:25,719
Speaker 2: question that is the ultimate question. I think for this

714
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:30,760
Speaker 2: particular hire. Can you find a first time head coaching

715
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:34,319
Speaker 2: candidate that can handle all of the new parts of

716
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:38,239
Speaker 2: a job they have never experienced before and lead this

717
00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:44,120
Speaker 2: team to unprecedented success with this group, or do you

718
00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:48,680
Speaker 2: feel it's better to hit the ground running with someone

719
00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:52,160
Speaker 2: who is familiar with all the demands of this position

720
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:55,440
Speaker 2: already because they've been a head coach at this level

721
00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:58,600
Speaker 2: and can then just hit the ground running and take

722
00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:00,560
Speaker 2: this team to where you want want to take it.

723
00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:03,120
Speaker 2: And that is the ultimate question in your decision and

724
00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:03,719
Speaker 2: who you're hiring.

725
00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:05,680
Speaker 1: Because of the way the season has ended for the

726
00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:11,040
Speaker 1: Bills under McDermott, plug and play was where I'm at,

727
00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:12,920
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Having a head coach like

728
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:14,680
Speaker 1: a Brian Dabo comes in, you plug him in and

729
00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:16,080
Speaker 1: all of a sudden you kind of keep the whole

730
00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:18,320
Speaker 1: thing rolling again. Is that enough of a change.

731
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:22,000
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, and that's what is being weighed out here,

732
00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:27,080
Speaker 2: and who those people are that you interview will probably

733
00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:30,600
Speaker 2: sway you to one side or the other, and you

734
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:33,840
Speaker 2: just have to trust that based on the people they

735
00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:38,239
Speaker 2: talk to, they'll get the answers they need and the

736
00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:41,719
Speaker 2: information they need to make that decision the best one

737
00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:44,279
Speaker 2: it can be. Have to take a break here, more

738
00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:46,120
Speaker 2: of your phone calls when we get back. What is

739
00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:50,280
Speaker 2: your number one criteria in identifying the next head coach

740
00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:52,799
Speaker 2: for the Bills? Your calls next here on One Bill's Live.

741
00:41:52,840 --> 00:42:03,640
Speaker 2: Stay with us all right, back here on One Bills Live,

742
00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:07,400
Speaker 2: Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you on a what is it?

743
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:07,880
Speaker 1: Thursday?

744
00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:08,840
Speaker 2: Thursday? Thursday?

745
00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:09,200
Speaker 1: Already?

746
00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:12,640
Speaker 2: My goodness, this week has flown by with all the

747
00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:15,879
Speaker 2: stuff that's happened, obviously, but we got to get back

748
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:17,760
Speaker 2: to the phones where we're asking you what's your number

749
00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:22,160
Speaker 2: one criteria and identifying the Bill's next head coach? To

750
00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:24,719
Speaker 2: Tom in Rochester? Next, what do you have for us? Tom?

751
00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:28,319
Speaker 5: Hi, guys, I'm gonna take only a minute. I hope

752
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:33,400
Speaker 5: thanks for taking my call. It's gonna I'm gonna rhetorical question.

753
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:38,080
Speaker 5: Do you know how many people hated tom Brady tom Brady,

754
00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:41,000
Speaker 5: and it was a lot. I think it was a lot,

755
00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:44,200
Speaker 5: and I think that gives him a chip on his shoulder.

756
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:48,600
Speaker 5: And I think that Josh Allen came into this league

757
00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:50,839
Speaker 5: and this is again again, I only hear what see

758
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:52,840
Speaker 5: what I see. I only hear what I hear. I

759
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:55,759
Speaker 5: don't know what's going on in the building, but I

760
00:42:55,800 --> 00:43:01,400
Speaker 5: don't see the chip big enough in Josh Allen. Josh

761
00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:05,719
Speaker 5: Allen's Josh Allen. In my opinion, I've gone through this,

762
00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:10,240
Speaker 5: and guy, I've gone through this. You are sad, You're sad,

763
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:13,759
Speaker 5: you're sad, and then you get a chip, and then

764
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:17,080
Speaker 5: you get mad and it's not and you decide I'm

765
00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:19,680
Speaker 5: not gonna I'm not losing. Is not an option. I

766
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:21,520
Speaker 5: know it sounds like a big deal, right because you

767
00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:23,600
Speaker 5: need a pass rush or if you need a pass rush,

768
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:26,640
Speaker 5: but you have to say to yourself, that's done. I'm

769
00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:30,560
Speaker 5: not crying. I'm mad now. Steve was in the locker

770
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:32,719
Speaker 5: room to Jim Kelly, and I don't know what Jim

771
00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:35,320
Speaker 5: Kelly does. All I see is Jim Kelly on television,

772
00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:38,520
Speaker 5: and Jim Kelly came across as somebody who was mad,

773
00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:42,040
Speaker 5: who didn't like when stuff didn't go well, he wasn't

774
00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:45,520
Speaker 5: he didn't come across is a guy that was sobbing. Okay,

775
00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:49,520
Speaker 5: I know he probably cried, but you, Josh Allen. In

776
00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:52,560
Speaker 5: my opinion, the coach you need to get is the

777
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:57,400
Speaker 5: coach that either puts that chip on Josh Allen or

778
00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:01,440
Speaker 5: takes it a little deeper and makes him have a

779
00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:06,480
Speaker 5: proof that makes him make make it the most important

780
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:09,480
Speaker 5: thing that he never goes through that again. So I

781
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:12,239
Speaker 5: don't all this other because so I think almost it

782
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:14,719
Speaker 5: doesn't even matter what coach it, what coach it is.

783
00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:18,280
Speaker 5: If Josh Allen gets that chip back, and hopefully it's bigger.

784
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:21,480
Speaker 5: But I think that's what requires because quite frankly, you guys,

785
00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:25,080
Speaker 5: I mean, let's talk about this. The Denver game, the

786
00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:30,359
Speaker 5: Denver game. You know, he played crappy, and I love

787
00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:34,759
Speaker 5: Josh Allen. He played crappy. And that's not okay, Right,

788
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:38,600
Speaker 5: that's not okay, and and and and I really believe

789
00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:41,839
Speaker 5: that the reason everybody's crying in that locker room is

790
00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:47,360
Speaker 5: because McDermott. McDermott makes all these guys, they're basically a

791
00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:51,680
Speaker 5: misfit team with injuries, right, he makes them believe they

792
00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:55,160
Speaker 5: can't do it. They are they are, they are shocked.

793
00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:59,000
Speaker 5: We aren't shocked because we know they're injuries. But any anyways,

794
00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:01,799
Speaker 5: the point I'm making is you got to get a

795
00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:04,360
Speaker 5: coach that puts that chip back on Josh Allen's shoulder,

796
00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:06,560
Speaker 5: all right, And that's that's all I think.

797
00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:09,560
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, it'd be nice too if the coach, whoever

798
00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:11,560
Speaker 1: that is, puts a chip on Josh Allen. Shore would

799
00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:13,200
Speaker 1: be nice if the fifty two other guys had a

800
00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:15,600
Speaker 1: chip somebody.

801
00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:18,919
Speaker 2: It can't just be one guy. I mean, is Josh

802
00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:23,560
Speaker 2: Allen the most important person? Yeah, but it can't just

803
00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:27,960
Speaker 2: be him. And I'm not saying that the team isn't

804
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:31,239
Speaker 2: full of competitors. It is. Just look at the way

805
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:33,920
Speaker 2: they played in that game. I mean, there's a lot

806
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:36,360
Speaker 2: of teams down twenty three to ten at half that

807
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:38,720
Speaker 2: would have folded the tents and lost by twenty five.

808
00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:44,680
Speaker 2: They erased a thirteen point halftime deficit, took the lead,

809
00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:48,040
Speaker 2: and then when they lost the lead again still forced overtime.

810
00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:52,200
Speaker 2: So if you want to talk about, you know, competitive

811
00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:54,960
Speaker 2: nature of a football team, this team already has that

812
00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:56,120
Speaker 2: in spades.

813
00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:59,960
Speaker 1: I say, Tom, You're right, maybe you notice a difference

814
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:04,560
Speaker 1: and Josh that nobody else does or doesn't pay attention to.

815
00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:08,560
Speaker 1: And you're right. A head coach's job is to, you know,

816
00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:11,439
Speaker 1: be an inspiring figure for his team to jump up.

817
00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:13,200
Speaker 2: But he shouldn't have to motivate.

818
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:16,319
Speaker 1: If if you're if you're looking for a head coach

819
00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:21,200
Speaker 1: to come in and stir up motivation inside an NFL

820
00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:24,040
Speaker 1: locker room, you need to clear out the locker room.

821
00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:29,640
Speaker 1: Because if you guys aren't anxious and ready and have

822
00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:31,799
Speaker 1: a chip on their shoulder, if that's what makes them go,

823
00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:35,560
Speaker 1: if a chip on their shoulder makes them play well,

824
00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:39,200
Speaker 1: they need to find it. They're themselves. That's a pro athlete.

825
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:41,719
Speaker 1: And if you have to have a coach or a

826
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:45,400
Speaker 1: player or whatever whatever to get a guy motivated, you

827
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:51,879
Speaker 1: got the wrong guy. You got the wrong guy. If

828
00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:55,400
Speaker 1: you're not if you're on an NFL team and you

829
00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:59,600
Speaker 1: need an external force to be to motivate, you, you

830
00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:03,560
Speaker 1: got the guy. Now. I'm not saying external motivation doesn't help.

831
00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:09,840
Speaker 1: Certainly it does. Home crowds disrespect, you know, having the

832
00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:15,799
Speaker 1: opponent talk something, say something about it. Players are notorious

833
00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:20,040
Speaker 1: for using the smallest slight as in a huge affront

834
00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:22,759
Speaker 1: to their manhood or whatever they they does, and they

835
00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:25,080
Speaker 1: use that to motivate themselves. But they do that themselves.

836
00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:30,080
Speaker 1: They don't need a coach, shouldn't have to dredge it up. RWA.

837
00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:30,600
Speaker 3: He can.

838
00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:32,920
Speaker 1: He'll do everything he can, no question about it.

839
00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:38,000
Speaker 2: But if you don't see Josh as competitive as it comes.

840
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:40,120
Speaker 1: And if you wash it, and I get it. Josh

841
00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:42,200
Speaker 1: didn't play his best game against Dan, did not. They

842
00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:44,720
Speaker 1: only scored thirty points and he turned it over three times.

843
00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:47,200
Speaker 1: That's bad, guys. Fortunately, that's a bad Yeah, the last

844
00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:51,440
Speaker 1: one wasn't, but yeah, and he turned it over, played

845
00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:54,480
Speaker 1: bad and only scored thirty points in a playoff game

846
00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:58,000
Speaker 1: against the number two defense, number two rushing defense in

847
00:47:58,040 --> 00:48:03,520
Speaker 1: the league, and the whole thing. It's not just Josh.

848
00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:07,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, Bobby and Buffalo is sorry, Steve, I thought you

849
00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:10,160
Speaker 2: were done. Bobby and Buffalo is next right here before

850
00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:11,520
Speaker 2: the break? What you got first? Bobby?

851
00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:13,360
Speaker 12: Hey, Hey, Chris, how you doing today?

852
00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:13,600
Speaker 3: Sir?

853
00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:14,560
Speaker 11: Good?

854
00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:18,880
Speaker 12: Listen on Chris just answering the question that the number

855
00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:22,359
Speaker 12: one criteria and identifying that the next Bill's head coach,

856
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:26,919
Speaker 12: well three things. Number one, a head coach that knows

857
00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:29,799
Speaker 12: how to get to a super Bowl. Number two that

858
00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:33,360
Speaker 12: has been to a super Bowl. Number three has won

859
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:37,520
Speaker 12: a super Bowl. Okay, and now, and Terry Pegoula says

860
00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:40,080
Speaker 12: that that's how you're going to get to the next level.

861
00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:43,080
Speaker 12: That's how you get to the next level is bringing

862
00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:47,520
Speaker 12: in an experienced coach that has already been there and

863
00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:51,480
Speaker 12: done that. Okay, because you're not going to go nowhere.

864
00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:54,440
Speaker 12: You're not going to get anywhere hiring a fly by

865
00:48:54,560 --> 00:48:57,400
Speaker 12: night coach. Okay, I'm not saying that, you know, Brian

866
00:48:57,480 --> 00:48:59,239
Speaker 12: Dable and the rest of the guys are fly by

867
00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:02,360
Speaker 12: night coaches, but uh look look what Look what he

868
00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:05,160
Speaker 12: did to the Giants. Okay, he went to New York

869
00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:06,240
Speaker 12: and stunk up the joint.

870
00:49:06,520 --> 00:49:07,640
Speaker 5: But anyway, as.

871
00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:09,920
Speaker 2: A head coach, I'll give you that. I mean, he's

872
00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:13,719
Speaker 2: also he's also won five Super Bowls as an assistant

873
00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:18,640
Speaker 2: and a college national championship as an assistant at Alabama. Okay,

874
00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:20,280
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know if that counts for anything,

875
00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:21,360
Speaker 2: but yeah.

876
00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:25,200
Speaker 12: Oh yeah, you know what, Brownie, that does count. But

877
00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:28,719
Speaker 12: I'm gonna tell you something else that that counts as well. Now,

878
00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:33,239
Speaker 12: Sean McDermott came in in twenty seventeen took the Buffalo

879
00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:37,520
Speaker 12: Biles from the basement to the first floor. Now you

880
00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:40,120
Speaker 12: tell me does that count for something?

881
00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:43,600
Speaker 2: It does count? Yeah, I mean from where that.

882
00:49:43,560 --> 00:49:44,680
Speaker 12: Team Okay, well.

883
00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:45,560
Speaker 2: From where that team was.

884
00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:49,919
Speaker 1: What the count? What, Bobby, what's it count for now? Yeah?

885
00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:54,560
Speaker 12: Well you know where you know something? Listen the reason

886
00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:57,879
Speaker 12: why he listened. It doesn't count right now. But but

887
00:49:57,880 --> 00:50:02,080
Speaker 12: but here's the thing. Here's the thing. The Buffalo Bills

888
00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:05,160
Speaker 12: need a coach bottom line, that's gonna take them to

889
00:50:05,239 --> 00:50:08,239
Speaker 12: the next level. Like I said, that has been to

890
00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:13,000
Speaker 12: Super Bowl, knows how to get there, and has won one. Okay, okay,

891
00:50:13,080 --> 00:50:16,799
Speaker 12: for example, for for example, look at look at look

892
00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:20,440
Speaker 12: at these coaches. Okay, look, how come the Buffalo Bills

893
00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:26,040
Speaker 12: don't look at a coach like either Mike McCarthy number one,

894
00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:30,680
Speaker 12: or or go down to Carolina talk to Bill Belichick. Okay,

895
00:50:30,920 --> 00:50:33,520
Speaker 12: why why do why don't look for those Why do

896
00:50:33,640 --> 00:50:35,160
Speaker 12: not look for those type of coaches?

897
00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:37,680
Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, I get what you're getting at, Bobby. We're

898
00:50:37,719 --> 00:50:39,440
Speaker 2: up against the break, so I gotta let you let

899
00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:43,399
Speaker 2: you go. Clearly, you only want a guy that has

900
00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:45,920
Speaker 2: won a Super Bowl at the head coaching level. I

901
00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:49,359
Speaker 2: respect that. I understand why you would want that. At

902
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:51,560
Speaker 2: this point in times, it looks like Mike McCarthy is

903
00:50:51,640 --> 00:50:55,320
Speaker 2: zeroed in on the Pittsburgh job. He's a Pittsburgh native,

904
00:50:55,800 --> 00:50:59,560
Speaker 2: so that's kind of where his injuries lie at this point.

905
00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:02,400
Speaker 1: And Mike karthy is a lot of people are like,

906
00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:04,959
Speaker 1: I don't know, because you know, he's an older guy

907
00:51:05,080 --> 00:51:09,359
Speaker 1: and they've seen him. But McCarthy, he's won a super

908
00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:12,880
Speaker 1: Bowl in twenty ten. Yeah, he's one or three years ago.

909
00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:16,480
Speaker 1: And he went to Dallas and won twelve games three

910
00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:19,000
Speaker 1: years in a row before he got fired there. Right,

911
00:51:19,719 --> 00:51:25,200
Speaker 1: so his last as successful as it was in Dallas,

912
00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:29,319
Speaker 1: he got fired. I was similar to Yah, it is,

913
00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:35,080
Speaker 1: but he but he had had that experience there. I

914
00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:40,319
Speaker 1: think he's I think he's a really good coach. And

915
00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:44,160
Speaker 1: I could see the interest there because of the Dallas

916
00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:48,440
Speaker 1: thing and and certainly the Green Bay thing. And if

917
00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:51,239
Speaker 1: you're wanting a guy with some experience and who's been

918
00:51:51,239 --> 00:51:54,680
Speaker 1: successful doing it, who has a plan, who's seen different

919
00:51:54,800 --> 00:52:01,200
Speaker 1: organizations now as well, he would he might he might

920
00:52:01,239 --> 00:52:03,600
Speaker 1: bring something the table. We'll see. That's interesting, But I

921
00:52:03,640 --> 00:52:03,960
Speaker 1: don't know.

922
00:52:04,480 --> 00:52:06,719
Speaker 2: We're up against the break. Gotta take one here when

923
00:52:06,719 --> 00:52:09,000
Speaker 2: we come back, our number two begins with Bill's team

924
00:52:09,040 --> 00:52:12,720
Speaker 2: reporter Matty glab will review some of yesterday's press conference

925
00:52:12,800 --> 00:52:14,719
Speaker 2: and where the team goes from here next on One

926
00:52:14,719 --> 00:52:15,239
Speaker 2: Bill's Life.

927
00:52:55,280 --> 00:53:00,160
Speaker 1: This the One Bill's Live presented by Calllida.

928
00:52:59,680 --> 00:53:02,560
Speaker 2: Help all Right Second Hour on Thursday, Chris Brown, Steve

929
00:53:02,600 --> 00:53:06,040
Speaker 2: Tasker and joining us in studio here. Bill's team reporter

930
00:53:06,120 --> 00:53:10,280
Speaker 2: Maddy lab covered the press conference yesterday, provided some content

931
00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:15,560
Speaker 2: on Buffalo bills dot Com afterwards, and I guess we begin,

932
00:53:15,680 --> 00:53:19,719
Speaker 2: Maddie with perhaps your biggest takeaways from yesterday.

933
00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:21,680
Speaker 13: There were a lot of takeaways from yesterday, but I

934
00:53:21,719 --> 00:53:25,759
Speaker 13: think how Terry Pabula and Brandon Bean started off the

935
00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:30,200
Speaker 13: press conference acknowledging, you know, we don't We're not excited

936
00:53:30,239 --> 00:53:32,239
Speaker 13: to be in the position that we're in right now.

937
00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:34,000
Speaker 13: None of us wanted to be in a position this

938
00:53:34,080 --> 00:53:37,200
Speaker 13: offseason where we're looking for a head coach when we

939
00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:40,560
Speaker 13: have the team that we have. General manager Brandon Bean

940
00:53:40,680 --> 00:53:44,759
Speaker 13: admitted I bear the guilt. I feel like I was

941
00:53:44,840 --> 00:53:48,600
Speaker 13: a part of what happened and a part of the

942
00:53:48,680 --> 00:53:52,600
Speaker 13: staff that built this team, that built the roster, that

943
00:53:52,640 --> 00:53:56,440
Speaker 13: built the culture, and the failure of us. Letting go

944
00:53:56,680 --> 00:54:02,120
Speaker 13: of Sean McDermott means that I also that too, So

945
00:54:02,280 --> 00:54:04,480
Speaker 13: I thought that was something that stood out to me

946
00:54:06,520 --> 00:54:09,360
Speaker 13: and being said things like, you know, it means that

947
00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:12,319
Speaker 13: I need to be better as well. I'm taking this

948
00:54:12,440 --> 00:54:15,000
Speaker 13: and I'm looking forward and finding ways that I can

949
00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:19,280
Speaker 13: be better in my job. And Terry and Brandon also

950
00:54:19,440 --> 00:54:22,560
Speaker 13: took the time, rightfully so to thank Sean for his

951
00:54:22,719 --> 00:54:26,719
Speaker 13: nine seasons in Buffalo, for all the winning seasons, for

952
00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:30,680
Speaker 13: taking a team that hadn't been in the playoffs in

953
00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:33,160
Speaker 13: seventeen years and doing so with a group that a

954
00:54:33,160 --> 00:54:35,920
Speaker 13: lot of people didn't think was possible, and creating a

955
00:54:35,960 --> 00:54:40,000
Speaker 13: culture that people across the NFL talk about as one

956
00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:43,040
Speaker 13: of the best cultures currently in the NFL. Being the

957
00:54:43,120 --> 00:54:45,560
Speaker 13: leader that he was, I thought it was important to

958
00:54:47,360 --> 00:54:51,120
Speaker 13: give him a sendoff in that way to appreciate everything

959
00:54:51,160 --> 00:54:54,000
Speaker 13: that McDermott has done for this team, for the players

960
00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:57,040
Speaker 13: for Buffalo. I thought that was really nice to hear

961
00:54:57,080 --> 00:55:00,920
Speaker 13: from both of them, And then understanding that we have

962
00:55:01,120 --> 00:55:04,879
Speaker 13: a unicorn at quarterback in Josh Allen, who is set

963
00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:08,560
Speaker 13: to enter his ninth NFL season, who has an MVP

964
00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:11,520
Speaker 13: title under his belt, but has not yet made it

965
00:55:11,560 --> 00:55:13,600
Speaker 13: to the super Bowl. We have to do right by

966
00:55:13,640 --> 00:55:16,399
Speaker 13: our quarterback, and we've been in this place where we've

967
00:55:16,440 --> 00:55:20,600
Speaker 13: lost these heartbreaking playoff games where it comes down to

968
00:55:20,800 --> 00:55:23,320
Speaker 13: a couple plays here or there, and I just felt

969
00:55:23,360 --> 00:55:26,319
Speaker 13: like something has to give and we have to set

970
00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:29,840
Speaker 13: up our quarterback for success. We have to find a

971
00:55:29,840 --> 00:55:32,000
Speaker 13: way to get over the hump, and we believe this

972
00:55:32,120 --> 00:55:34,040
Speaker 13: decision will help us get there.

973
00:55:36,520 --> 00:55:40,600
Speaker 2: We see the initial list of head coaching candidates. That's

974
00:55:40,600 --> 00:55:45,040
Speaker 2: a list that has the potential to get longer as

975
00:55:45,160 --> 00:55:48,839
Speaker 2: maybe some of as Brandon Being indicated yesterday, there are

976
00:55:48,880 --> 00:55:52,160
Speaker 2: some teams still playing football with candidates they can't talk to.

977
00:55:52,280 --> 00:55:53,840
Speaker 2: So this list could get longer, and I think we

978
00:55:53,880 --> 00:55:58,399
Speaker 2: would anticipate it will. But what is your take at

979
00:55:58,440 --> 00:56:01,840
Speaker 2: first blush looking at this current list.

980
00:56:01,760 --> 00:56:06,239
Speaker 13: Of candidates, hearing from being yesterday during the press conference,

981
00:56:06,400 --> 00:56:08,960
Speaker 13: and just hearing the little nuggets of what they're looking

982
00:56:09,040 --> 00:56:12,720
Speaker 13: for in their next head coach. You heard Brandon Beans

983
00:56:12,719 --> 00:56:15,640
Speaker 13: say words like we're looking for a CEO. This person

984
00:56:15,760 --> 00:56:18,279
Speaker 13: has to be bigger than a schemer. They have to

985
00:56:18,320 --> 00:56:20,839
Speaker 13: be bigger than a play caller. Being a head coach

986
00:56:20,880 --> 00:56:22,600
Speaker 13: of a football team at the end of the day

987
00:56:22,719 --> 00:56:26,920
Speaker 13: is about managing people, managing different personalities and fostering the

988
00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:30,200
Speaker 13: right culture in our building. And you see some familiarity

989
00:56:30,280 --> 00:56:33,160
Speaker 13: in those names across the board. I mean, Joe Brady

990
00:56:33,239 --> 00:56:36,480
Speaker 13: has been here, He's been around Josh Allen as a

991
00:56:36,600 --> 00:56:41,440
Speaker 13: quarterbacks coach and as of most recently, an offensive coordinator

992
00:56:41,480 --> 00:56:45,080
Speaker 13: and knows what it takes to get this group to

993
00:56:45,239 --> 00:56:48,360
Speaker 13: be a playoff contending group, a Super Bowl contending group.

994
00:56:48,600 --> 00:56:51,839
Speaker 13: Brian Daball was there when Josh Allen was in some

995
00:56:51,920 --> 00:56:55,120
Speaker 13: of his younger seasons and lifting Alan off of the

996
00:56:55,160 --> 00:56:58,560
Speaker 13: ground and the type of offense that he had in

997
00:56:58,640 --> 00:57:03,080
Speaker 13: Buffalo when a was in his first few seasons as

998
00:57:03,120 --> 00:57:08,040
Speaker 13: an NFL quarterback. Seeing those names and hearing what Bean

999
00:57:08,160 --> 00:57:12,439
Speaker 13: said about we have to get over the hump. They're

1000
00:57:12,480 --> 00:57:15,799
Speaker 13: not going to hire a head coach where it's going

1001
00:57:15,840 --> 00:57:20,760
Speaker 13: to be a complete change of everything happening in this building.

1002
00:57:21,120 --> 00:57:23,280
Speaker 13: I think they're looking for somebody that can come in

1003
00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:26,360
Speaker 13: and work with what we have. And yes, there are

1004
00:57:26,400 --> 00:57:28,440
Speaker 13: going to be changes, but you are not doing a

1005
00:57:28,440 --> 00:57:31,520
Speaker 13: complete culture reset. You are not blowing it up. You

1006
00:57:31,640 --> 00:57:35,000
Speaker 13: have some big foundational pieces and you're looking for that

1007
00:57:35,080 --> 00:57:39,040
Speaker 13: right person to tag on to Josh Allen and some

1008
00:57:39,160 --> 00:57:42,600
Speaker 13: other players and lift it where it hasn't been lifted before.

1009
00:57:42,880 --> 00:57:45,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, and this is where you get into the question

1010
00:57:45,800 --> 00:57:50,360
Speaker 1: of the search and what the guys will qualifications are.

1011
00:57:50,400 --> 00:57:54,560
Speaker 1: Obviously you got to vet that. But in a lot

1012
00:57:54,560 --> 00:57:58,520
Speaker 1: of these senses, mostly when you're a bad football team,

1013
00:57:58,560 --> 00:58:00,160
Speaker 1: you made a change because you're not getting better and

1014
00:58:00,200 --> 00:58:03,440
Speaker 1: you want to get better. This is not that. But

1015
00:58:04,760 --> 00:58:09,040
Speaker 1: you want to try and I want to ask you,

1016
00:58:09,040 --> 00:58:12,200
Speaker 1: you're not trying to like react to a problem. The

1017
00:58:12,200 --> 00:58:14,040
Speaker 1: only problem is at the end, you know, getting to

1018
00:58:14,080 --> 00:58:16,760
Speaker 1: the playoffs and winning a playoff game isn't even good enough.

1019
00:58:16,800 --> 00:58:20,640
Speaker 1: That's the problem. So what you know, what reaction is there?

1020
00:58:20,640 --> 00:58:23,439
Speaker 1: Like if you're going to hire a coach and he's

1021
00:58:23,480 --> 00:58:26,800
Speaker 1: going to be a reaction to the problems you've just had,

1022
00:58:26,880 --> 00:58:31,360
Speaker 1: that's really the question, right, And the problems seem well,

1023
00:58:31,400 --> 00:58:35,200
Speaker 1: they're they're hard to pin down, Right, What causes a

1024
00:58:35,240 --> 00:58:38,440
Speaker 1: team to get a bad call later in a playoff

1025
00:58:38,480 --> 00:58:40,960
Speaker 1: game every single year? Right? Or that kind of thing?

1026
00:58:41,040 --> 00:58:41,200
Speaker 2: Right?

1027
00:58:43,200 --> 00:58:47,200
Speaker 1: How How what kind of guy can keep that from happening?

1028
00:58:48,640 --> 00:58:51,200
Speaker 13: I think it's somebody who can be similar to like

1029
00:58:51,240 --> 00:58:55,040
Speaker 13: Sean McDermott was who got the Bills to where they

1030
00:58:55,160 --> 00:58:58,400
Speaker 13: are and is a big part of everything that happened

1031
00:58:58,400 --> 00:59:01,640
Speaker 13: here and is leaving this team with a team that

1032
00:59:02,560 --> 00:59:05,280
Speaker 13: is almost set to do it. You have to have

1033
00:59:05,400 --> 00:59:09,400
Speaker 13: somebody similar in ways who can be a leader of men,

1034
00:59:09,520 --> 00:59:12,640
Speaker 13: who can command a team, who can have a great

1035
00:59:12,680 --> 00:59:15,640
Speaker 13: relationship with your quarterback and get the best out of him,

1036
00:59:15,880 --> 00:59:17,800
Speaker 13: and get the best out of your team when it's

1037
00:59:17,880 --> 00:59:20,120
Speaker 13: injured like it has been in the past. You have

1038
00:59:20,200 --> 00:59:22,960
Speaker 13: to be a great coach in the way that you

1039
00:59:23,040 --> 00:59:25,600
Speaker 13: develop players. I think that's such a big part of

1040
00:59:25,640 --> 00:59:29,400
Speaker 13: being a head coach is having staff members in the

1041
00:59:29,400 --> 00:59:33,600
Speaker 13: building who can elevate your day three picks, who can

1042
00:59:33,640 --> 00:59:38,160
Speaker 13: elevate an undrafted player to step in for an injured person,

1043
00:59:38,520 --> 00:59:42,000
Speaker 13: And it's there's not a lot that has to be done.

1044
00:59:42,160 --> 00:59:45,280
Speaker 13: This team is so close to making it to the

1045
00:59:45,320 --> 00:59:48,040
Speaker 13: super Bowl. It's a tweak here, it's a tweak there.

1046
00:59:48,360 --> 00:59:51,360
Speaker 13: It's being a little bit healthier in the next few

1047
00:59:51,400 --> 00:59:54,520
Speaker 13: seasons fingers crossed, which is hard to have control over.

1048
00:59:55,200 --> 00:59:59,000
Speaker 13: And it's making sure that your quarterback continues to have

1049
00:59:59,080 --> 01:00:02,520
Speaker 13: the pieces around him that he needs and continues to

1050
01:00:02,640 --> 01:00:05,800
Speaker 13: grow in his game. Even in his ninth, tenth, and

1051
01:00:05,840 --> 01:00:10,760
Speaker 13: eleventh NFL seasons, we heard Bean say, the biggest priority

1052
01:00:10,800 --> 01:00:13,680
Speaker 13: for me is protecting Josh Allen and look at the

1053
01:00:13,720 --> 01:00:16,320
Speaker 13: way that our offensive line has gotten better over the years. Yes,

1054
01:00:16,720 --> 01:00:18,760
Speaker 13: I know the chatter about getting a number one wide

1055
01:00:18,760 --> 01:00:21,640
Speaker 13: receiver is out there, but teams who have those number

1056
01:00:21,640 --> 01:00:24,480
Speaker 13: one wide receivers haven't always gotten to the to the

1057
01:00:24,520 --> 01:00:28,440
Speaker 13: super Bowl. And for me, it's about protecting him, and

1058
01:00:28,520 --> 01:00:30,920
Speaker 13: a number one wide receiver might not be the end

1059
01:00:30,920 --> 01:00:31,440
Speaker 13: all be all.

1060
01:00:32,240 --> 01:00:36,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, and maybe a way to insulate yourself against injuries

1061
01:00:36,440 --> 01:00:40,080
Speaker 2: is to focus on, you know, improving the quality of

1062
01:00:40,120 --> 01:00:43,640
Speaker 2: the depth on your roster as well, because this was

1063
01:00:43,680 --> 01:00:46,440
Speaker 2: a team that unfortunately had to pull from their practice

1064
01:00:46,480 --> 01:00:51,160
Speaker 2: squad every single week of the season.

1065
01:00:51,280 --> 01:00:51,480
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1066
01:00:53,360 --> 01:00:57,160
Speaker 2: Terry Pagoula made no secret that Josh Allen is going

1067
01:00:57,200 --> 01:01:01,320
Speaker 2: to be weighing in on who is ultimately hired as

1068
01:01:01,360 --> 01:01:05,400
Speaker 2: head coach. Not every team does that. What was your

1069
01:01:06,640 --> 01:01:09,200
Speaker 2: what was your reaction to hearing the fact that the

1070
01:01:09,280 --> 01:01:11,880
Speaker 2: quarterback of this football team is going to be weighing

1071
01:01:11,920 --> 01:01:14,080
Speaker 2: in on who his head coach is going to be.

1072
01:01:14,720 --> 01:01:18,520
Speaker 13: I think it shows that Terry Pegoula and Brandon Bean

1073
01:01:18,640 --> 01:01:21,800
Speaker 13: have an immense amount of respect for their quarterback in

1074
01:01:21,920 --> 01:01:27,080
Speaker 13: Josh Allen, and they believe that he he will know

1075
01:01:27,920 --> 01:01:30,160
Speaker 13: and will be a good judge of character. I think

1076
01:01:30,200 --> 01:01:32,919
Speaker 13: it's good to have somebody like that in the room

1077
01:01:33,120 --> 01:01:37,600
Speaker 13: who has the best pulse on what's going on inside

1078
01:01:37,600 --> 01:01:39,400
Speaker 13: of the locker room. To have one of your guys

1079
01:01:39,400 --> 01:01:42,080
Speaker 13: who's in the locker room every single day sit on

1080
01:01:42,120 --> 01:01:45,040
Speaker 13: those interviews and hear what's going on and be able

1081
01:01:45,120 --> 01:01:49,520
Speaker 13: to have an opinion of yes, this will jive with us, Yes,

1082
01:01:49,640 --> 01:01:52,520
Speaker 13: this is exactly what we need. Yes, this has been

1083
01:01:52,560 --> 01:01:55,600
Speaker 13: what we're missing, or no, this isn't going to be

1084
01:01:55,720 --> 01:01:58,680
Speaker 13: a great fit. I think that is so smart by

1085
01:01:58,800 --> 01:02:03,080
Speaker 13: Bean and Pagoula to have a player on that interview

1086
01:02:03,120 --> 01:02:06,520
Speaker 13: panel to be your pulse check on on what is

1087
01:02:06,560 --> 01:02:07,920
Speaker 13: good and not good for the lockows.

1088
01:02:07,960 --> 01:02:12,000
Speaker 2: I'm very curious if it's if Josh is completely hands

1089
01:02:12,080 --> 01:02:16,600
Speaker 2: on like he's in those interview rooms, or is he

1090
01:02:16,760 --> 01:02:21,600
Speaker 2: on Zoom Live or is he watching the interview back

1091
01:02:21,640 --> 01:02:25,800
Speaker 2: on playback, Like what's the role there? We probably should

1092
01:02:26,240 --> 01:02:26,680
Speaker 2: I think.

1093
01:02:26,520 --> 01:02:28,600
Speaker 1: One of the I think it will probably be more

1094
01:02:28,760 --> 01:02:32,840
Speaker 1: of bringing Josh in for the finalists rather than the preliminaries.

1095
01:02:32,880 --> 01:02:37,600
Speaker 1: That's a good point, and because I think Josh will understand,

1096
01:02:37,720 --> 01:02:41,160
Speaker 1: you know that how self aware he is, it's gonna

1097
01:02:41,160 --> 01:02:47,840
Speaker 1: be absolutely a non starter unless Josh is fully on board.

1098
01:02:47,920 --> 01:02:49,959
Speaker 1: Day one said this is the guy, let's go because

1099
01:02:50,000 --> 01:02:52,600
Speaker 1: the guys in the locker room will go where Josh lives.

1100
01:02:53,320 --> 01:02:58,200
Speaker 1: Josh has to when when? Yeah, so it will probably

1101
01:02:58,400 --> 01:03:02,120
Speaker 1: this preliminary stuff. I mean, and of course today if

1102
01:03:02,200 --> 01:03:03,600
Speaker 1: Josh isn't the bill, we don't even know if he's

1103
01:03:03,600 --> 01:03:06,320
Speaker 1: an ability. He's probably not, but you know, he doesn't

1104
01:03:06,320 --> 01:03:09,960
Speaker 1: have to see Brian Dabole, right right, So, but there

1105
01:03:10,000 --> 01:03:12,720
Speaker 1: are gonna be when they get down to these second interviews,

1106
01:03:12,840 --> 01:03:16,000
Speaker 1: is probably the point where Josh's gonna parachute in and

1107
01:03:16,040 --> 01:03:17,880
Speaker 1: say what about And they'll say what about it? And

1108
01:03:17,880 --> 01:03:22,160
Speaker 1: he'll have some thoughts, questions and thoughts and conversation. Can

1109
01:03:22,160 --> 01:03:25,400
Speaker 1: we make this work? If there's something you're gonna change?

1110
01:03:25,400 --> 01:03:28,400
Speaker 1: What's it gonna be? How can I help? What are

1111
01:03:28,400 --> 01:03:30,400
Speaker 1: he asking for me that's different than what I've been

1112
01:03:30,440 --> 01:03:33,560
Speaker 1: asked of before? All of that stuff, But I think

1113
01:03:33,600 --> 01:03:37,720
Speaker 1: it Josh will probably come in after they've weeded out

1114
01:03:37,920 --> 01:03:40,440
Speaker 1: I mean, he's not gonna talk to twelve candidates.

1115
01:03:40,080 --> 01:03:43,080
Speaker 2: I talked about I mentioned the candidate list already, and

1116
01:03:43,120 --> 01:03:47,800
Speaker 2: it's not just people with time here in the recent past,

1117
01:03:47,920 --> 01:03:50,480
Speaker 2: it's time here in the distant past too. I mean,

1118
01:03:50,520 --> 01:03:54,080
Speaker 2: you've got Anthony Lynn, who was an offensive coordinator under

1119
01:03:54,080 --> 01:03:57,200
Speaker 2: Rex Ryan interim head coach for a game, and then

1120
01:03:57,240 --> 01:04:00,840
Speaker 2: Anthony Weaver, who is here as a defensive line coach. Yeah,

1121
01:04:00,920 --> 01:04:06,880
Speaker 2: even further back. So I found that interesting that from

1122
01:04:06,880 --> 01:04:10,440
Speaker 2: the very beginning of the ownership tenure of the Pagoulas,

1123
01:04:11,440 --> 01:04:13,640
Speaker 2: they've pulled some names as well. I don't know what

1124
01:04:13,720 --> 01:04:15,040
Speaker 2: to what do you make of that.

1125
01:04:16,200 --> 01:04:18,880
Speaker 13: I think you're doing your due diligence by pulling those

1126
01:04:18,920 --> 01:04:21,720
Speaker 13: types of names where you know when they were on

1127
01:04:21,840 --> 01:04:25,400
Speaker 13: staff in previous years, when Anthony Weaver was here, what

1128
01:04:25,480 --> 01:04:29,320
Speaker 13: in twenty thirteen is the defensive line coach under Doug Morone.

1129
01:04:29,680 --> 01:04:36,520
Speaker 13: That those were people and personalities that you thought were

1130
01:04:36,560 --> 01:04:39,600
Speaker 13: good for the team at the time and you respected,

1131
01:04:39,720 --> 01:04:42,240
Speaker 13: and they have risen up the ranks and have bounced

1132
01:04:42,280 --> 01:04:46,240
Speaker 13: around to different teams and have learned under different coaching staffs.

1133
01:04:46,280 --> 01:04:49,280
Speaker 13: I also think, you know that is an important piece

1134
01:04:49,320 --> 01:04:54,600
Speaker 13: of this is getting somebody who has been in other places,

1135
01:04:54,640 --> 01:04:58,280
Speaker 13: whether that be in college systems or in systems within

1136
01:04:58,360 --> 01:05:02,240
Speaker 13: the NFL, to learn under different people and then getting

1137
01:05:02,320 --> 01:05:05,880
Speaker 13: to form your own identity of what is an NFL

1138
01:05:05,920 --> 01:05:07,920
Speaker 13: team going to look like, what type of offense are

1139
01:05:07,960 --> 01:05:10,040
Speaker 13: we going to run? What type of defense are we

1140
01:05:10,120 --> 01:05:13,280
Speaker 13: going to run? And so I think choosing people to

1141
01:05:13,320 --> 01:05:16,040
Speaker 13: interview like Anthony Lynn and Anthony Weaver. I wasn't in

1142
01:05:16,080 --> 01:05:18,160
Speaker 13: the building when Lynn was here, but I've heard so

1143
01:05:18,280 --> 01:05:22,000
Speaker 13: many great things about Anthony Lynn. And have a friend

1144
01:05:22,040 --> 01:05:24,560
Speaker 13: who is a team reporter with the Charters and she

1145
01:05:24,720 --> 01:05:27,880
Speaker 13: really enjoyed her time when Anthony Lynn was a head

1146
01:05:27,880 --> 01:05:31,960
Speaker 13: coach there. So I think you're choosing people who who

1147
01:05:32,080 --> 01:05:34,480
Speaker 13: have a good rap around the league. And we heard

1148
01:05:34,520 --> 01:05:37,120
Speaker 13: being say, you know, if this person is going to

1149
01:05:37,200 --> 01:05:39,400
Speaker 13: come in and wants to do a scheme change, like

1150
01:05:39,440 --> 01:05:41,000
Speaker 13: if we're going to change from a four to three

1151
01:05:41,040 --> 01:05:44,160
Speaker 13: defense to a three to four defense, that might be

1152
01:05:44,320 --> 01:05:47,560
Speaker 13: something that happens. But I think whoever they choose, this

1153
01:05:47,600 --> 01:05:50,200
Speaker 13: person is going to come into a team that has

1154
01:05:50,200 --> 01:05:53,360
Speaker 13: some big boulders, right, and that's your quarterback and Josh Allen,

1155
01:05:53,680 --> 01:05:55,920
Speaker 13: that's the best run game in the NFL with the

1156
01:05:55,960 --> 01:05:58,800
Speaker 13: offensive line in James Cook and yes, David Edwards and

1157
01:05:58,800 --> 01:06:01,720
Speaker 13: Connor McGovern are free agents. We're not sure what that's

1158
01:06:01,760 --> 01:06:04,880
Speaker 13: gonna look like. But you have these big pieces that

1159
01:06:04,920 --> 01:06:07,600
Speaker 13: you are going to use next year to help you.

1160
01:06:07,600 --> 01:06:10,880
Speaker 13: You have some big names on defense, and you have

1161
01:06:11,400 --> 01:06:15,160
Speaker 13: some rookies who had a great first season and will

1162
01:06:15,200 --> 01:06:17,560
Speaker 13: hopefully take a big step in your two and guys

1163
01:06:17,600 --> 01:06:21,800
Speaker 13: like Dion Walker, Jackson Hawes. Yes, Maxwell Harrison was injured,

1164
01:06:21,960 --> 01:06:24,120
Speaker 13: but he did have some time on the field during

1165
01:06:24,120 --> 01:06:26,760
Speaker 13: his rookie season. We saw some great things out him.

1166
01:06:27,160 --> 01:06:30,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right, And this is a process. And what

1167
01:06:30,960 --> 01:06:34,760
Speaker 1: do you think about a timeline. I've been very sensitive

1168
01:06:34,800 --> 01:06:37,880
Speaker 1: to because everybody talks you always hear you see these

1169
01:06:38,200 --> 01:06:42,480
Speaker 1: these head coaches getting hired, and people get panicky that

1170
01:06:42,520 --> 01:06:44,560
Speaker 1: we're going to miss out on a great candidate. And

1171
01:06:44,800 --> 01:06:49,760
Speaker 1: there are some great candidates there. Yeah, it's real. But

1172
01:06:49,800 --> 01:06:53,680
Speaker 1: they're also probably more really good candidates out there than

1173
01:06:53,720 --> 01:06:56,320
Speaker 1: we're aware of most of you know, they're all going

1174
01:06:56,400 --> 01:06:59,720
Speaker 1: to be on a list somewhere. I think it's still

1175
01:07:00,760 --> 01:07:04,720
Speaker 1: I'm not really getting caught up in the panic. I

1176
01:07:04,840 --> 01:07:07,080
Speaker 1: got to get this done now, because I don't think

1177
01:07:07,120 --> 01:07:10,560
Speaker 1: it's you're going to lose the guy that you want

1178
01:07:09,800 --> 01:07:11,320
Speaker 1: if you wait.

1179
01:07:11,800 --> 01:07:14,600
Speaker 13: Yeah, And to flip it the other way, Yes, you

1180
01:07:14,600 --> 01:07:17,160
Speaker 13: don't want to miss out on the right candidate, But

1181
01:07:17,200 --> 01:07:19,480
Speaker 13: the candidates out there don't want to miss out on

1182
01:07:19,520 --> 01:07:23,360
Speaker 13: a chance to interview with the Buffalo Bills. Who wouldn't

1183
01:07:23,400 --> 01:07:26,880
Speaker 13: want to coach Josh Allen? Who wouldn't want to walk

1184
01:07:26,920 --> 01:07:29,560
Speaker 13: into a culture like this, Who wouldn't want to walk

1185
01:07:29,600 --> 01:07:33,400
Speaker 13: into a team that's won six straight playoff games, being

1186
01:07:33,480 --> 01:07:36,680
Speaker 13: one of four teams in the NFL ever to do so.

1187
01:07:37,200 --> 01:07:40,440
Speaker 13: Terry Pogoola and Brandon Being said, this is a desirable job,

1188
01:07:40,520 --> 01:07:42,840
Speaker 13: and I totally believe that.

1189
01:07:43,160 --> 01:07:45,640
Speaker 2: I think that's true. I think the weight of the

1190
01:07:45,720 --> 01:07:50,560
Speaker 2: expectations here are heavy, but the lift to get the

1191
01:07:50,600 --> 01:07:55,280
Speaker 2: team to that place is not nearly as heavy a

1192
01:07:55,320 --> 01:07:58,400
Speaker 2: lift as a lot of other places, and because of that,

1193
01:07:58,440 --> 01:07:59,080
Speaker 2: it's attractive.

1194
01:07:59,080 --> 01:08:02,040
Speaker 1: Tho't the landing spe is better as well? Think about it,

1195
01:08:02,040 --> 01:08:05,800
Speaker 1: because you know, as much as we saw Sean McDermott

1196
01:08:05,800 --> 01:08:09,520
Speaker 1: be here for nearly a decade, the life cycle of

1197
01:08:09,560 --> 01:08:12,600
Speaker 1: a head coach in the NFL goes pretty quick. And

1198
01:08:12,640 --> 01:08:14,040
Speaker 1: if you come in here, you know you're gonna win

1199
01:08:14,120 --> 01:08:17,400
Speaker 1: some games. You're not gonna be You're not gonna be

1200
01:08:17,400 --> 01:08:20,080
Speaker 1: bereft of being able to go out and just muscle

1201
01:08:20,080 --> 01:08:22,240
Speaker 1: some people around and win games with this roster, with

1202
01:08:22,320 --> 01:08:24,240
Speaker 1: the culture, with all the stuff that you're gonna take over.

1203
01:08:24,760 --> 01:08:28,519
Speaker 1: So you're not gonna look like a total failure by

1204
01:08:28,560 --> 01:08:31,599
Speaker 1: coming in taking a new job. And if you if

1205
01:08:31,600 --> 01:08:33,879
Speaker 1: you win eleven games and get bounced in the playoffs

1206
01:08:33,880 --> 01:08:38,000
Speaker 1: after winning, like Sean McDermott, that may not be good enough,

1207
01:08:38,439 --> 01:08:40,719
Speaker 1: and you may, but you're gonna have a resumes Like listen,

1208
01:08:40,720 --> 01:08:44,760
Speaker 1: I was winning double digit games here, So it is

1209
01:08:44,800 --> 01:08:50,599
Speaker 1: a you do have you know, that quarterback and a

1210
01:08:50,640 --> 01:08:52,639
Speaker 1: fan base and a home field and a new stadium

1211
01:08:52,680 --> 01:08:55,720
Speaker 1: and all this stuff singing along here in Buffalo. It

1212
01:08:55,760 --> 01:08:57,800
Speaker 1: is an attractive spot. I don't think it's any question

1213
01:08:57,840 --> 01:08:58,120
Speaker 1: about it.

1214
01:08:58,200 --> 01:08:59,920
Speaker 13: Let me ask you guys a question. You have been

1215
01:09:00,520 --> 01:09:03,479
Speaker 13: covering this league for so many years, and Steve you

1216
01:09:03,840 --> 01:09:05,960
Speaker 13: obviously played in the NFL for so many years. What

1217
01:09:06,040 --> 01:09:11,480
Speaker 13: has changed about the way head coaching cycles are addressed,

1218
01:09:11,640 --> 01:09:16,280
Speaker 13: About how teams move on from coaches and move on

1219
01:09:16,320 --> 01:09:19,840
Speaker 13: to a new one that's very different from years ago.

1220
01:09:21,320 --> 01:09:25,000
Speaker 2: I don't know that it's terribly different. It's always going

1221
01:09:25,080 --> 01:09:28,559
Speaker 2: to be a bottom line business. I mean, even the

1222
01:09:28,560 --> 01:09:33,160
Speaker 2: firing of coach McDermott is not unprecedented. There's five other

1223
01:09:33,200 --> 01:09:34,719
Speaker 2: coaches in the history of the league.

1224
01:09:35,200 --> 01:09:36,719
Speaker 1: It's rare, but it has happened.

1225
01:09:36,840 --> 01:09:39,400
Speaker 2: You know. John Fox got fired after losing a divisional

1226
01:09:39,439 --> 01:09:41,960
Speaker 2: playoff game in Denver after a twelve and four season.

1227
01:09:43,400 --> 01:09:46,280
Speaker 2: Marty Schottenheimer got fired after a fourteen and two season

1228
01:09:46,320 --> 01:09:48,920
Speaker 2: in San Diego after they lost a divisional playoff game.

1229
01:09:49,320 --> 01:09:52,760
Speaker 2: George Seaford won a Super Bowl and got fired three

1230
01:09:52,880 --> 01:09:56,080
Speaker 2: years later after a twelve and four season and got replaced.

1231
01:09:56,560 --> 01:09:59,519
Speaker 2: So it's not unprecedented, and I think it serves as

1232
01:09:59,520 --> 01:10:02,799
Speaker 2: a remind under that this is a bottom line business.

1233
01:10:02,840 --> 01:10:05,800
Speaker 2: With the Super Bowl being the ultimate prize and even

1234
01:10:06,040 --> 01:10:08,479
Speaker 2: very good, it's not good.

1235
01:10:08,479 --> 01:10:10,400
Speaker 1: And I think that's the thing that surprised a lot

1236
01:10:10,479 --> 01:10:16,080
Speaker 1: of people, and a guy like Terry. I think they're

1237
01:10:16,080 --> 01:10:17,559
Speaker 1: not in it to be good. They're not in it

1238
01:10:17,600 --> 01:10:21,679
Speaker 1: to you know, they're the cash flow takes care of itself.

1239
01:10:21,680 --> 01:10:24,720
Speaker 1: Even even the Cleveland Browns are getting cash flow. I

1240
01:10:24,720 --> 01:10:29,599
Speaker 1: mean that right, this is this a higher I want

1241
01:10:29,600 --> 01:10:33,639
Speaker 1: to win, and that's when you get to places where

1242
01:10:33,680 --> 01:10:36,040
Speaker 1: it just seems as good as it has been. And

1243
01:10:36,120 --> 01:10:38,640
Speaker 1: let's face it, that Sean McDermott Aaron Buffalo will be

1244
01:10:38,720 --> 01:10:42,680
Speaker 1: remembered fondly. I think, oh yeah, certainly is going to

1245
01:10:42,680 --> 01:10:44,519
Speaker 1: be the like the like the year I was in

1246
01:10:44,560 --> 01:10:46,240
Speaker 1: We you know, hey, great, we went to four straight

1247
01:10:46,240 --> 01:10:48,519
Speaker 1: Super Bowls. We never want a championship. But people are

1248
01:10:48,600 --> 01:10:51,640
Speaker 1: still you know, I'm living proof of how well we

1249
01:10:51,680 --> 01:10:54,240
Speaker 1: get treated, right, I have witnessed there you go. So

1250
01:10:54,960 --> 01:10:58,360
Speaker 1: this Sean McDermott era is going to be remembered very

1251
01:10:58,400 --> 01:11:00,720
Speaker 1: fondly by Bills fans. It was a I mean, it

1252
01:11:00,760 --> 01:11:04,000
Speaker 1: was a blast to be in Buffalo during this time,

1253
01:11:04,320 --> 01:11:05,360
Speaker 1: an absolute blast.

1254
01:11:05,439 --> 01:11:06,760
Speaker 2: So but.

1255
01:11:08,640 --> 01:11:12,479
Speaker 1: You you got an ownership, you got coaches, you got

1256
01:11:12,479 --> 01:11:14,680
Speaker 1: fans are like them, dude, doesn't come on, let's get it,

1257
01:11:14,800 --> 01:11:18,720
Speaker 1: let's go. And even that is not good enough. So

1258
01:11:18,760 --> 01:11:22,599
Speaker 1: I think ultimately this may be the one aspect, Maddy,

1259
01:11:22,640 --> 01:11:24,400
Speaker 1: when you see these head coaches and the cycles that

1260
01:11:24,520 --> 01:11:27,360
Speaker 1: go on, and this may be one of the things

1261
01:11:27,400 --> 01:11:30,439
Speaker 1: about the National Football League that is unchanging. The league

1262
01:11:30,479 --> 01:11:33,719
Speaker 1: evolves constantly, this is one thing that does not change.

1263
01:11:33,760 --> 01:11:35,280
Speaker 1: There were ten vacancies this year.

1264
01:11:35,360 --> 01:11:38,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, Maddie, thanks for the time as always, we appreciate it.

1265
01:11:38,760 --> 01:11:40,400
Speaker 2: We'll take a break here, get right back to your

1266
01:11:40,439 --> 01:11:42,000
Speaker 2: phone call. So if you're holding at eight h three

1267
01:11:42,040 --> 01:11:43,600
Speaker 2: oh five fifty, stay where you are. We'll get to

1268
01:11:43,640 --> 01:11:45,400
Speaker 2: you when we get back here. On One Bill's Live,

1269
01:11:45,640 --> 01:12:05,400
Speaker 2: presented by Collide Health, it's Buffalo Bills Radio. All right

1270
01:12:05,439 --> 01:12:07,559
Speaker 2: back here on One Bill's Live. Chris Brown, Chief asker

1271
01:12:07,640 --> 01:12:09,840
Speaker 2: with you, and right back to the phones we go

1272
01:12:09,880 --> 01:12:12,120
Speaker 2: where you. We're asking you, what is the number one

1273
01:12:12,240 --> 01:12:17,960
Speaker 2: criteria you have in identifying the Bills. Next head coach,

1274
01:12:18,520 --> 01:12:21,280
Speaker 2: Let's go to Alan in Buffalo. What's up Allan?

1275
01:12:22,360 --> 01:12:24,240
Speaker 5: Hey, get up to the Steve Chris.

1276
01:12:25,520 --> 01:12:29,559
Speaker 14: My uh, my question is, well, I know what the

1277
01:12:29,560 --> 01:12:32,280
Speaker 14: conversation's gonna be. What happened is gonna be a while ago.

1278
01:12:32,720 --> 01:12:35,920
Speaker 14: But how can we avoid the injuries that we that

1279
01:12:36,040 --> 01:12:38,920
Speaker 14: happens to our guys at the point in time of

1280
01:12:38,960 --> 01:12:42,120
Speaker 14: the season that's critical. Like two receivers we had go

1281
01:12:42,240 --> 01:12:46,000
Speaker 14: down both with torn a cls. You know, I never

1282
01:12:46,000 --> 01:12:48,960
Speaker 14: recalled Steven and when they had they run them falling

1283
01:12:49,000 --> 01:12:52,479
Speaker 14: down like that and also waiting on getting guys that's

1284
01:12:52,479 --> 01:12:54,720
Speaker 14: supposed to help the team. Well, we got to wake

1285
01:12:54,840 --> 01:12:58,120
Speaker 14: six games in before they can play. And will we

1286
01:12:58,200 --> 01:13:01,040
Speaker 14: ever get a receiving duel like we had with you know,

1287
01:13:01,120 --> 01:13:03,000
Speaker 14: Andre and James, that's my question.

1288
01:13:03,320 --> 01:13:07,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's easier said than done. Just find a couple

1289
01:13:07,000 --> 01:13:07,599
Speaker 2: of Hall of famers.

1290
01:13:07,640 --> 01:13:09,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're never gonna find two Hall of famers to

1291
01:13:09,600 --> 01:13:10,360
Speaker 1: line up together.

1292
01:13:10,880 --> 01:13:11,000
Speaker 3: Uh.

1293
01:13:11,280 --> 01:13:13,720
Speaker 1: James at the latter part of his career gave the

1294
01:13:13,720 --> 01:13:17,920
Speaker 1: Bills four really good football years and Andre was right

1295
01:13:17,960 --> 01:13:21,080
Speaker 1: in the midst of his prime during those Super Bowl years. Uh.

1296
01:13:21,640 --> 01:13:25,080
Speaker 1: In fact, you'll you'll find Thurman and those guys will

1297
01:13:25,080 --> 01:13:27,240
Speaker 1: say that, you know, the the comeback game was when

1298
01:13:27,280 --> 01:13:32,519
Speaker 1: Andre Reid, when everybody found out about him. We knew

1299
01:13:32,560 --> 01:13:34,760
Speaker 1: about him, but he was you know, it became a

1300
01:13:35,240 --> 01:13:42,360
Speaker 1: household name. So yeah, that's not gonna happen. And avoiding injuries, Uh,

1301
01:13:42,439 --> 01:13:45,479
Speaker 1: the best way to avoid injuries and football is is

1302
01:13:45,520 --> 01:13:47,200
Speaker 1: to play something else.

1303
01:13:48,040 --> 01:13:50,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, but they're gonna mark my words, they're gonna look

1304
01:13:50,960 --> 01:13:53,519
Speaker 2: at it, they're gonna analyze it, they're gonna try to

1305
01:13:53,640 --> 01:14:00,120
Speaker 2: ascertain if there were contributing factors that led to all

1306
01:14:00,160 --> 01:14:01,800
Speaker 2: the injuries. There were a lot of injuries in the

1307
01:14:01,840 --> 01:14:05,200
Speaker 2: practice setting this year, more than we're used to sing

1308
01:14:05,720 --> 01:14:08,240
Speaker 2: and Obviously, there are injuries and games. There are a

1309
01:14:08,280 --> 01:14:11,120
Speaker 2: lot of injuries that are just flat out unavoidable. It

1310
01:14:11,200 --> 01:14:13,360
Speaker 2: is a one hundred percent injury sport, as a lot

1311
01:14:13,400 --> 01:14:16,280
Speaker 2: of people say, So there are always going to be injuries,

1312
01:14:16,320 --> 01:14:20,120
Speaker 2: but if you feel like your team has had an

1313
01:14:20,120 --> 01:14:24,040
Speaker 2: inordinate number of them, yeah, you're going to investigate it.

1314
01:14:24,080 --> 01:14:25,800
Speaker 2: And I would anticipate there is going to be an

1315
01:14:25,840 --> 01:14:29,599
Speaker 2: off season analysis of that with either their sports science department,

1316
01:14:30,120 --> 01:14:33,479
Speaker 2: their strength and conditioning department, their athletic training department. They're

1317
01:14:33,520 --> 01:14:36,200
Speaker 2: all going to slice it eight ways to Sunday to

1318
01:14:36,280 --> 01:14:39,479
Speaker 2: try to determine whether there was a contributing factor that

1319
01:14:39,680 --> 01:14:42,320
Speaker 2: led to I would say, what has been a spike

1320
01:14:42,360 --> 01:14:43,799
Speaker 2: in injuries the last two years?

1321
01:14:44,680 --> 01:14:47,599
Speaker 1: They made it changed this last offseason with their strength

1322
01:14:47,600 --> 01:14:50,600
Speaker 1: and condition and conditioning guys. So there's one way that

1323
01:14:50,640 --> 01:14:53,000
Speaker 1: they went after it that didn't seem to work right.

1324
01:14:53,080 --> 01:14:57,960
Speaker 1: So yeah, that's all on the table, and that's something

1325
01:14:59,600 --> 01:15:02,800
Speaker 1: I don't know. That's something that I don't know a

1326
01:15:02,880 --> 01:15:07,200
Speaker 1: new first time head coach may or may not have

1327
01:15:07,240 --> 01:15:07,639
Speaker 1: a handle.

1328
01:15:08,960 --> 01:15:10,920
Speaker 2: Let's go to Bob and Clarence next.

1329
01:15:10,960 --> 01:15:15,840
Speaker 3: What's up Bob, Hey, thanks for taking my call. I

1330
01:15:15,920 --> 01:15:18,280
Speaker 3: have some thoughts that I want to share with you

1331
01:15:18,360 --> 01:15:23,960
Speaker 3: about coach Gable. Okay, so he was here for the

1332
01:15:24,000 --> 01:15:28,519
Speaker 3: molding process of Josh Allen, right, and not only that,

1333
01:15:29,360 --> 01:15:32,920
Speaker 3: studying under Bean, he should have been able to learn

1334
01:15:33,000 --> 01:15:38,160
Speaker 3: how to handle the players, their egos, their emotions, all

1335
01:15:38,200 --> 01:15:38,439
Speaker 3: of that.

1336
01:15:40,040 --> 01:15:43,559
Speaker 1: And you mean under McDermott, what did I say?

1337
01:15:43,680 --> 01:15:44,000
Speaker 2: You said?

1338
01:15:44,280 --> 01:15:47,320
Speaker 5: He said, fine, sorry under McDermott.

1339
01:15:47,360 --> 01:15:47,519
Speaker 7: Yep.

1340
01:15:48,720 --> 01:15:52,519
Speaker 3: So he's got that going for him. He knows watching

1341
01:15:52,600 --> 01:15:55,880
Speaker 3: him how to handle the players, and I think he'll

1342
01:15:55,880 --> 01:15:58,599
Speaker 3: get the respect to those players the same way that

1343
01:15:58,720 --> 01:16:05,160
Speaker 3: McDermott did. And he's from Buffalo, so you know the

1344
01:16:05,200 --> 01:16:07,920
Speaker 3: fans are going to get behind him.

1345
01:16:08,200 --> 01:16:10,920
Speaker 1: So what do you How do you handle Bob? How

1346
01:16:10,960 --> 01:16:13,080
Speaker 1: do you handle the lack of success he had in

1347
01:16:13,120 --> 01:16:14,920
Speaker 1: New York? What are your thoughts?

1348
01:16:15,080 --> 01:16:18,360
Speaker 3: Well, I don't know what the situation was there, you know,

1349
01:16:18,640 --> 01:16:20,680
Speaker 3: I don't know if he had enough players, if he

1350
01:16:20,720 --> 01:16:23,839
Speaker 3: had the right players. I don't know what the situation

1351
01:16:24,160 --> 01:16:24,559
Speaker 3: was there.

1352
01:16:25,439 --> 01:16:26,920
Speaker 2: I know he got to the playoffs. I know he

1353
01:16:26,960 --> 01:16:29,720
Speaker 2: got to the playoffs with Daniel Jones's quarterback and one

1354
01:16:29,720 --> 01:16:30,400
Speaker 2: Coach of the Year.

1355
01:16:32,000 --> 01:16:32,640
Speaker 1: He did do that.

1356
01:16:34,000 --> 01:16:34,200
Speaker 3: Yep.

1357
01:16:34,360 --> 01:16:37,559
Speaker 1: Like Brownie said, he's a playoff game. As as Brownie said,

1358
01:16:37,600 --> 01:16:40,240
Speaker 1: he's He's been a staff member for five different Super

1359
01:16:40,240 --> 01:16:43,720
Speaker 1: Bowl teams and a National championship team. He's the guy.

1360
01:16:44,600 --> 01:16:47,000
Speaker 1: He's also the guy that bench Jalen Hurts and put

1361
01:16:47,000 --> 01:16:49,479
Speaker 1: two in the game in the second half. Well, he

1362
01:16:49,600 --> 01:16:51,720
Speaker 1: was on Nick Saban. Nick Saban did it, but he

1363
01:16:51,800 --> 01:16:56,400
Speaker 1: was the play caller. So there's a lot in there.

1364
01:16:57,520 --> 01:16:59,519
Speaker 3: So the other thing I was going to talk to

1365
01:16:59,520 --> 01:17:03,800
Speaker 3: you about, and I know this happens, it doesn't happen frequently,

1366
01:17:04,600 --> 01:17:08,320
Speaker 3: but we don't know what the status of Dawstin Max

1367
01:17:08,400 --> 01:17:10,200
Speaker 3: is going to be in this coming season, if he's

1368
01:17:10,240 --> 01:17:12,439
Speaker 3: going to be here or not. He's got a huge salary,

1369
01:17:13,520 --> 01:17:16,080
Speaker 3: So if they had to let him go, why couldn't

1370
01:17:16,080 --> 01:17:18,920
Speaker 3: they make Keyan Coleman a tight end, like he's got

1371
01:17:18,920 --> 01:17:21,000
Speaker 3: the size and all that.

1372
01:17:21,880 --> 01:17:25,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, I hear what you're saying, Bob. I wouldn't flat

1373
01:17:25,320 --> 01:17:28,400
Speaker 2: out dismiss it. But I think with all that they're

1374
01:17:28,439 --> 01:17:33,160
Speaker 2: trying to develop within Keon's skill set, I don't I

1375
01:17:33,160 --> 01:17:36,760
Speaker 2: think a position change might stunt that growth more than

1376
01:17:37,120 --> 01:17:39,559
Speaker 2: help it. That's just my opinion. I mean, I'm not

1377
01:17:39,600 --> 01:17:42,200
Speaker 2: saying it couldn't happen. But I would tend to think

1378
01:17:42,200 --> 01:17:45,240
Speaker 2: they're going to focus him on what he already knows

1379
01:17:45,520 --> 01:17:48,600
Speaker 2: and develop the skills to apply to that position that

1380
01:17:48,640 --> 01:17:52,200
Speaker 2: he's played since he stepped on to a football field.

1381
01:17:52,439 --> 01:17:54,759
Speaker 2: Let's go to Diane in Buffalo next. What's up Diane?

1382
01:17:55,920 --> 01:17:59,200
Speaker 15: Hey, guys, thanks for taking my call. Just want to

1383
01:17:59,240 --> 01:18:05,200
Speaker 15: first start off by saying it was devastating to see

1384
01:18:05,200 --> 01:18:07,880
Speaker 15: the tears out of Josh Allen's eyes. The last time

1385
01:18:07,920 --> 01:18:12,080
Speaker 15: I seen that was our last loss in the Atlanta

1386
01:18:12,680 --> 01:18:16,840
Speaker 15: their super Bowl. Kind of really worried about his mental state,

1387
01:18:17,080 --> 01:18:20,479
Speaker 15: and you know just how we rebounds from time and

1388
01:18:20,520 --> 01:18:26,280
Speaker 15: time again, not getting over that humped in the playoffs. Secondly,

1389
01:18:26,320 --> 01:18:27,800
Speaker 15: I just have a couple of points to make and

1390
01:18:27,800 --> 01:18:33,640
Speaker 15: then a question. Secondly, I'm not sure why Terry Kogoula

1391
01:18:33,760 --> 01:18:37,800
Speaker 15: did not speak with Josh prior to the firing of

1392
01:18:37,880 --> 01:18:42,360
Speaker 15: Sean McDermott, being that Josh is the number one player

1393
01:18:42,439 --> 01:18:45,840
Speaker 15: on our team and the most important why he wasn't

1394
01:18:46,200 --> 01:18:51,280
Speaker 15: in that discussion prior to the firing only because, as

1395
01:18:51,320 --> 01:18:55,160
Speaker 15: everyone has said, Sean McDermott has changed the entire culture here.

1396
01:18:55,720 --> 01:18:59,960
Speaker 15: He has brought us out of the dumps, the drought,

1397
01:18:59,840 --> 01:19:04,840
Speaker 15: and gave this team so much to play for, and

1398
01:19:05,160 --> 01:19:07,759
Speaker 15: it seemed to me that every player on that team

1399
01:19:08,439 --> 01:19:13,560
Speaker 15: played hard for Sean McDermott. So it's a little confusing

1400
01:19:13,640 --> 01:19:16,360
Speaker 15: to me that they're going to bring Josh in now

1401
01:19:17,040 --> 01:19:20,439
Speaker 15: to discuss the future coach when I feel he should

1402
01:19:20,439 --> 01:19:24,040
Speaker 15: have been in it prior, because I think that's a

1403
01:19:24,080 --> 01:19:28,080
Speaker 15: big opinion that Josh should have had a pardon. This

1404
01:19:28,200 --> 01:19:31,439
Speaker 15: poor guy deserves the super Bowl more than anybody in

1405
01:19:31,479 --> 01:19:33,560
Speaker 15: this league, and in my opinion, the best team is

1406
01:19:33,600 --> 01:19:38,520
Speaker 15: sitting home right now. There was a good team. And secondly,

1407
01:19:39,920 --> 01:19:43,080
Speaker 15: I just want to know what your guys thoughts are,

1408
01:19:43,080 --> 01:19:45,600
Speaker 15: because from what I'm hearing, there's a lot of commentators

1409
01:19:45,640 --> 01:19:50,200
Speaker 15: out there that our commenting on that they do not

1410
01:19:50,360 --> 01:19:53,320
Speaker 15: think that this was the right move to make. I'm

1411
01:19:53,320 --> 01:19:55,280
Speaker 15: not going to sit here and pretend I know who

1412
01:19:55,360 --> 01:19:58,160
Speaker 15: our next coach should be or if this was right

1413
01:19:58,240 --> 01:20:02,080
Speaker 15: or wrong, but I am very nervous about it. We

1414
01:20:02,120 --> 01:20:05,960
Speaker 15: have a huge stadium that we're going into that everybody's

1415
01:20:06,000 --> 01:20:09,040
Speaker 15: excited for, and the last thing we need is for

1416
01:20:09,160 --> 01:20:11,200
Speaker 15: next year to be a big flop because we made

1417
01:20:11,240 --> 01:20:15,000
Speaker 15: a mistake with Sean McDermott. Lastly, I just need to

1418
01:20:15,000 --> 01:20:19,960
Speaker 15: ask this question, the calls that we keep getting screwed

1419
01:20:20,000 --> 01:20:25,280
Speaker 15: over on in the playoffs, what is the route that

1420
01:20:25,320 --> 01:20:28,040
Speaker 15: they take to go over that call, like with Jaane

1421
01:20:28,280 --> 01:20:31,640
Speaker 15: with our Brandon Cooks, Like is that just called on

1422
01:20:31,760 --> 01:20:33,880
Speaker 15: the field or does that go upstairs?

1423
01:20:34,280 --> 01:20:36,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, happy to help you with that, Diane, Thanks for

1424
01:20:36,320 --> 01:20:40,280
Speaker 2: the call. The call the officials told Sean McDermott when

1425
01:20:40,280 --> 01:20:41,960
Speaker 2: he called time out to try to slow the whole

1426
01:20:42,000 --> 01:20:45,200
Speaker 2: process down because he can't challenge anything in overtime. What

1427
01:20:45,240 --> 01:20:48,040
Speaker 2: he was told on the sidelines by the officials was

1428
01:20:48,080 --> 01:20:51,040
Speaker 2: that it was reviewed already by the replay assistant in

1429
01:20:51,080 --> 01:20:55,120
Speaker 2: the building and reviewed by New York at their headquarters

1430
01:20:55,120 --> 01:20:58,080
Speaker 2: for officiating, and that they all saw it the same way,

1431
01:20:58,120 --> 01:21:01,080
Speaker 2: that it was not a catch, it was and thus

1432
01:21:01,120 --> 01:21:05,439
Speaker 2: an interception, so they didn't review it any further. And

1433
01:21:05,479 --> 01:21:09,920
Speaker 2: that's that, Steve. You want to handle why Josh Allen

1434
01:21:10,040 --> 01:21:15,400
Speaker 2: was not consulted on the decision to fire coach McDermott. Probably, Well,

1435
01:21:15,720 --> 01:21:16,479
Speaker 2: the way it's done.

1436
01:21:16,600 --> 01:21:19,439
Speaker 1: I can't speak for Terry, but players don't get a

1437
01:21:19,479 --> 01:21:21,439
Speaker 1: say in it. And if you're not gonna give him

1438
01:21:21,439 --> 01:21:24,400
Speaker 1: a say in it, talk to him afterwards and plus

1439
01:21:24,439 --> 01:21:26,360
Speaker 1: think about it, if and he did, if he if

1440
01:21:26,400 --> 01:21:30,240
Speaker 1: he talks, if he told Josh he was gonna let

1441
01:21:30,280 --> 01:21:38,360
Speaker 1: Sean go, and then that he said, I'm gonna I'm

1442
01:21:38,360 --> 01:21:40,599
Speaker 1: gonna call Sean, I'm gonna let him go in the morning.

1443
01:21:40,840 --> 01:21:42,760
Speaker 1: Josh has to sit on that for twenty you know,

1444
01:21:42,800 --> 01:21:44,120
Speaker 1: for twelve or fourteen hours.

1445
01:21:44,520 --> 01:21:45,920
Speaker 2: It's not a great position him.

1446
01:21:46,120 --> 01:21:50,720
Speaker 1: It's not a great spot to put Josh in. And

1447
01:21:50,920 --> 01:21:54,720
Speaker 1: from what I gathered from the press conference yesterday, if

1448
01:21:54,760 --> 01:21:57,040
Speaker 1: I'm and I'm trying to put myself into I don't

1449
01:21:57,400 --> 01:22:00,160
Speaker 1: If you've made the decision that you're gonna move on on,

1450
01:22:01,680 --> 01:22:05,519
Speaker 1: you kind of keep it to yourself because you don't

1451
01:22:05,520 --> 01:22:06,840
Speaker 1: want anybody to talk you out of it.

1452
01:22:07,400 --> 01:22:12,280
Speaker 2: Right, And traditionally in the NFL, it's a unilateral decision. Yeah,

1453
01:22:12,400 --> 01:22:15,559
Speaker 2: I mean, that's just the way business is conducted in

1454
01:22:15,600 --> 01:22:18,960
Speaker 2: this league. I'm sure there have been owners through the

1455
01:22:18,960 --> 01:22:23,839
Speaker 2: course of NFL history that may have consulted somebody to

1456
01:22:23,880 --> 01:22:26,519
Speaker 2: get them to weigh in on it. But the decision,

1457
01:22:26,760 --> 01:22:29,160
Speaker 2: it's it's Terry's decision. One hundred times out of one

1458
01:22:29,240 --> 01:22:30,719
Speaker 2: hundred has rested with the owner.

1459
01:22:30,800 --> 01:22:35,479
Speaker 1: It's Terry's decision to make and he was probably done

1460
01:22:35,600 --> 01:22:38,080
Speaker 1: talking about it. And you can imagine if he tried

1461
01:22:38,120 --> 01:22:42,040
Speaker 1: to tell Josh that, you know, Josh might jump on

1462
01:22:42,080 --> 01:22:42,880
Speaker 1: the table for.

1463
01:22:42,880 --> 01:22:45,320
Speaker 2: Sean and you don't want that only makes it hard.

1464
01:22:45,280 --> 01:22:47,080
Speaker 1: That makes it, That makes it harder. Plus it almost

1465
01:22:47,160 --> 01:22:49,559
Speaker 1: it will also damage your relationship with Josh when you

1466
01:22:49,600 --> 01:22:53,800
Speaker 1: say no, I'm going to do it anyway. So all

1467
01:22:53,840 --> 01:22:56,080
Speaker 1: of that's in the stew and when it's when you're

1468
01:22:56,120 --> 01:23:00,000
Speaker 1: in a business like the NFL, which all the teams

1469
01:23:00,280 --> 01:23:05,720
Speaker 1: are like this except for maybe Green Bay, there's only

1470
01:23:05,760 --> 01:23:08,280
Speaker 1: one voice that really matters in the room. And when

1471
01:23:08,280 --> 01:23:11,080
Speaker 1: that when that guy has a decision to make, and

1472
01:23:11,120 --> 01:23:15,639
Speaker 1: he makes it, nobody it's rare that anybody talks him

1473
01:23:15,640 --> 01:23:18,240
Speaker 1: out of it, and there's no reason to go there.

1474
01:23:18,240 --> 01:23:21,479
Speaker 1: And plus it it they need to deal with it

1475
01:23:21,560 --> 01:23:23,519
Speaker 1: when they find out about it. You know, you don't

1476
01:23:23,560 --> 01:23:26,840
Speaker 1: need to ease the pain. Uh, It's it's part of

1477
01:23:26,880 --> 01:23:29,240
Speaker 1: the landscape of the league. So I understand what you

1478
01:23:29,280 --> 01:23:33,200
Speaker 1: mean about not talking to Josh. Josh. Let me say this.

1479
01:23:33,640 --> 01:23:36,839
Speaker 1: I noticed this even when McDermott was here, and certainly

1480
01:23:36,880 --> 01:23:43,160
Speaker 1: now in the press conference, Josh gets treated with the

1481
01:23:43,560 --> 01:23:48,280
Speaker 1: appropriate amount of deference and consideration in this organization he

1482
01:23:48,320 --> 01:23:54,599
Speaker 1: has under Sean McDermott. Josh is beloved here and they

1483
01:23:54,640 --> 01:23:56,800
Speaker 1: treat him as well as they can treat it could

1484
01:23:56,840 --> 01:24:01,719
Speaker 1: treat anybody, and and a and and this is part

1485
01:24:01,720 --> 01:24:05,920
Speaker 1: of that. Not loading him up with even more about

1486
01:24:05,920 --> 01:24:09,240
Speaker 1: the head coach firing. You don't because that if you,

1487
01:24:09,360 --> 01:24:12,400
Speaker 1: if you tell Josh beforehand, it almost puts him above

1488
01:24:12,439 --> 01:24:16,519
Speaker 1: the head coach, right, And that's not how the hierarchy works.

1489
01:24:16,560 --> 01:24:18,880
Speaker 1: And you don't need the next guy coming in saying

1490
01:24:18,880 --> 01:24:20,640
Speaker 1: are you telling Josh stuff? You're not telling me.

1491
01:24:23,200 --> 01:24:26,080
Speaker 2: You just it's just a bad It's not conducive to

1492
01:24:26,160 --> 01:24:27,680
Speaker 2: a healthy workflow.

1493
01:24:27,320 --> 01:24:31,040
Speaker 1: Right, And so I get your point, and I get

1494
01:24:31,240 --> 01:24:35,400
Speaker 1: we all think Josh is that important. But I think

1495
01:24:35,479 --> 01:24:36,800
Speaker 1: Terry did the right thing.

1496
01:24:37,880 --> 01:24:39,640
Speaker 2: Gotta take a break here. We'll try to get a

1497
01:24:39,640 --> 01:24:41,200
Speaker 2: phone call or too in when we get back here

1498
01:24:41,240 --> 01:24:59,680
Speaker 2: on One Bill's Live. Stay with us all right back

1499
01:24:59,720 --> 01:25:02,840
Speaker 2: here One Bill's Live. Talking about the number one criteria

1500
01:25:02,960 --> 01:25:05,680
Speaker 2: you have in identifying the Bill's next head coach to

1501
01:25:05,680 --> 01:25:07,479
Speaker 2: Tom in cheek to Wogan X, what's.

1502
01:25:07,360 --> 01:25:10,719
Speaker 9: Up Tom, Hi, guys, I just had a few comments.

1503
01:25:10,800 --> 01:25:13,639
Speaker 9: I've been a Bill's fan since way back from nineteen

1504
01:25:13,760 --> 01:25:17,600
Speaker 9: sixty and McDermott is probably the second best coach we

1505
01:25:17,720 --> 01:25:22,160
Speaker 9: had now these big games that we lost McDermott, he

1506
01:25:22,200 --> 01:25:24,559
Speaker 9: didn't miss a kick, he didn't fumble with the ball,

1507
01:25:24,960 --> 01:25:29,000
Speaker 9: he didn't make a bad penalty, he didn't make a

1508
01:25:29,080 --> 01:25:32,760
Speaker 9: bad call as like the official did. So I don't know.

1509
01:25:33,360 --> 01:25:37,479
Speaker 9: You need personnel if you have a good dominant receiver,

1510
01:25:38,479 --> 01:25:41,679
Speaker 9: a good pass rush, and makes the game a little easier,

1511
01:25:41,720 --> 01:25:45,439
Speaker 9: which we were in existent with both of those. But

1512
01:25:45,880 --> 01:25:48,400
Speaker 9: you know, Casey Sang was the manager of the Yankees.

1513
01:25:48,439 --> 01:25:51,120
Speaker 9: They asked him, how will you make so many pennants?

1514
01:25:51,160 --> 01:25:53,000
Speaker 9: And he said, I just make out the lineup and

1515
01:25:53,040 --> 01:25:56,679
Speaker 9: the players do the rest. So even with I hope

1516
01:25:58,080 --> 01:26:02,479
Speaker 9: Witch Cupt. Dobell is a coach. I think he's got

1517
01:26:02,520 --> 01:26:06,160
Speaker 9: the inspiration he gets along with Josh, and I think

1518
01:26:06,240 --> 01:26:08,240
Speaker 9: he could do it. But there's no guarantee we'll ever

1519
01:26:08,280 --> 01:26:10,720
Speaker 9: win a super Bowl. And if we get there, we

1520
01:26:10,760 --> 01:26:13,120
Speaker 9: don't know if when you could ask Steve that, but

1521
01:26:13,720 --> 01:26:18,080
Speaker 9: just if we get there, embrace it. But if we're competitive,

1522
01:26:18,120 --> 01:26:20,000
Speaker 9: I can go with that. I don't know about a

1523
01:26:20,040 --> 01:26:22,960
Speaker 9: Super Bowl. I hope we do before I croak, but

1524
01:26:23,360 --> 01:26:26,640
Speaker 9: me too, Tom, I think Dubell is the best possibility.

1525
01:26:26,720 --> 01:26:29,880
Speaker 1: Dave, I'm say this, here's the thing, all of us,

1526
01:26:30,280 --> 01:26:33,120
Speaker 1: let me just say that, I'm gonna end my discussion

1527
01:26:33,160 --> 01:26:36,559
Speaker 1: on this, like we all get this feeling that there's

1528
01:26:36,560 --> 01:26:38,439
Speaker 1: this little hump that the Bills just can't get over,

1529
01:26:38,479 --> 01:26:41,080
Speaker 1: this one last call that the efficient referees need to make.

1530
01:26:41,120 --> 01:26:44,360
Speaker 1: It's the one last thing they missed making. Marve used

1531
01:26:44,360 --> 01:26:46,200
Speaker 1: to have a saying and said, listen, the difference between

1532
01:26:46,240 --> 01:26:47,599
Speaker 1: the best team in the league and the worst team

1533
01:26:47,600 --> 01:26:49,880
Speaker 1: in the league is only two percent of everything they do.

1534
01:26:50,800 --> 01:26:52,840
Speaker 1: But in that two percent is one hundred percent of

1535
01:26:52,880 --> 01:26:56,719
Speaker 1: the difference the difference between where Sean McDermott has taken

1536
01:26:56,760 --> 01:26:59,040
Speaker 1: this club, which is vast. I mean, all of us

1537
01:26:59,120 --> 01:27:01,439
Speaker 1: have seen it and lived it and enjoyed it and

1538
01:27:01,640 --> 01:27:04,280
Speaker 1: reveled in it. It has been awesome to go through

1539
01:27:04,320 --> 01:27:07,120
Speaker 1: it with Sean McDermott. But the final two percent is

1540
01:27:07,120 --> 01:27:11,280
Speaker 1: one hundred percent of what they're missing. You don't go

1541
01:27:11,360 --> 01:27:13,599
Speaker 1: into the playoffs as the sixth seed when he got

1542
01:27:13,680 --> 01:27:17,640
Speaker 1: Josh Allen and these guys and Terry alluded to it.

1543
01:27:17,640 --> 01:27:20,080
Speaker 1: It's in the little things in the regular season where

1544
01:27:20,080 --> 01:27:22,760
Speaker 1: you don't turn the ball over three times to the

1545
01:27:22,800 --> 01:27:26,040
Speaker 1: New England Patriots and lose the division in week five.

1546
01:27:27,000 --> 01:27:29,600
Speaker 1: You don't go into Miami Dolphins, a team that is

1547
01:27:29,760 --> 01:27:34,120
Speaker 1: absolutely hot garbage, and show up flat and lose another

1548
01:27:34,160 --> 01:27:37,599
Speaker 1: game and don't score for three quarters and you end

1549
01:27:37,680 --> 01:27:39,960
Speaker 1: up being the sixth seed when in all rights, you

1550
01:27:40,000 --> 01:27:43,519
Speaker 1: should have been the one seed. That's the difference in

1551
01:27:43,560 --> 01:27:47,040
Speaker 1: the hump. It's not one last call in the second

1552
01:27:47,080 --> 01:27:50,960
Speaker 1: playoff game you've had to play. It's playing good eighteen

1553
01:27:51,080 --> 01:27:53,800
Speaker 1: weeks of the regular season, including a bye week, and

1554
01:27:53,920 --> 01:27:57,360
Speaker 1: nailing that, And it's getting there in the best shape

1555
01:27:57,360 --> 01:28:00,160
Speaker 1: you can possibly be and giving yourself a chance to

1556
01:28:00,200 --> 01:28:03,000
Speaker 1: be successful, not going on the road for three weeks

1557
01:28:03,200 --> 01:28:06,479
Speaker 1: and expecting a superhuman effort from a guy who's got

1558
01:28:06,479 --> 01:28:10,960
Speaker 1: a busted foot, sore ribs, a hyper extended knee and

1559
01:28:11,040 --> 01:28:15,519
Speaker 1: all the rest. The difference between what Sean McDermott has

1560
01:28:15,560 --> 01:28:18,840
Speaker 1: got came came to in Buffalo and where he got

1561
01:28:18,880 --> 01:28:23,360
Speaker 1: him to is unfathomable. He was awesome and he will

1562
01:28:23,400 --> 01:28:26,600
Speaker 1: be beloved for all time in Western New York. But

1563
01:28:26,680 --> 01:28:30,519
Speaker 1: the final step is not just a step, folks. It

1564
01:28:30,640 --> 01:28:34,360
Speaker 1: is gonna be an enormous journey to get that final thing,

1565
01:28:34,640 --> 01:28:36,920
Speaker 1: because you got to get yourself into a different spot.

1566
01:28:37,240 --> 01:28:41,080
Speaker 1: When you're there, you gotta be a team that's the

1567
01:28:41,120 --> 01:28:44,280
Speaker 1: one seed, the team that will not win. That hump

1568
01:28:44,320 --> 01:28:45,920
Speaker 1: that we all talk about, we just can't get over.

1569
01:28:46,200 --> 01:28:49,920
Speaker 1: That is a speed bump for where this team should

1570
01:28:49,920 --> 01:28:53,960
Speaker 1: be talent wise, coaching wise, fan wise, and in a

1571
01:28:54,000 --> 01:28:57,360
Speaker 1: new stadium. That's where they're gonna hope to be. This

1572
01:28:57,600 --> 01:29:00,320
Speaker 1: one last little umph that we hope this coach brings

1573
01:29:00,439 --> 01:29:03,200
Speaker 1: is not a hump. It's all of the difference all

1574
01:29:03,200 --> 01:29:06,400
Speaker 1: the way through the season, the offseason, the regular season,

1575
01:29:06,600 --> 01:29:09,880
Speaker 1: training camp, and it's every little timeout that you blow

1576
01:29:09,920 --> 01:29:12,760
Speaker 1: when you shouldn't have blown a time out, don't ask

1577
01:29:12,800 --> 01:29:15,960
Speaker 1: your quarterback to be a great eraser, don't make the

1578
01:29:16,000 --> 01:29:18,439
Speaker 1: mistakes that it takes to be the sixth seed instead

1579
01:29:18,439 --> 01:29:19,080
Speaker 1: of the one seed.

1580
01:29:19,320 --> 01:29:24,519
Speaker 2: Yep. And that is why one seeds the vast majority

1581
01:29:24,560 --> 01:29:27,559
Speaker 2: of the time are the teams that advance to the

1582
01:29:27,560 --> 01:29:30,320
Speaker 2: Super Bowl. They have to play one less game than

1583
01:29:30,400 --> 01:29:34,599
Speaker 2: everybody else, so less can go wrong, and they got

1584
01:29:34,600 --> 01:29:38,280
Speaker 2: to win one less game, less injury, all of that.

1585
01:29:38,800 --> 01:29:41,479
Speaker 2: So that's the goal. It was the goal. This year.

1586
01:29:41,520 --> 01:29:43,200
Speaker 2: They didn't reach it. We'll see if they can reach

1587
01:29:43,200 --> 01:29:44,880
Speaker 2: it in the future with a new head coach. More

1588
01:29:44,880 --> 01:29:46,920
Speaker 2: on this tomorrow, Steve, and I'll see you had won