Speaker 1: Wine Down with Janet Kramer and I'm Heeart Radio podcast.
Speaker 2: Hi, does everyone feel like we're on Oregon Trail with
Speaker 2: the flu?
Speaker 3: Deep?
Speaker 4: I feel like it's Groundhog's Day. It's That's how it's
Speaker 4: felt the last couple of weeks, Like every day is
Speaker 4: the same day? Yeah, over and over?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Is that what that means?
Speaker 3: Making?
Speaker 2: Okay? That is?
Speaker 4: That is what that means? I yeah, my host chat
Speaker 4: is is I mean.
Speaker 1: Just last week and pop it right in.
Speaker 5: Maybe we just skip that and go to wine about it?
Speaker 4: I know, right well, I feel like it's it's interesting
Speaker 4: because it was last week I was saying how he
Speaker 4: had creeping COVID, you know, and then it was you know,
Speaker 4: I'm like, you know, when you know that something else
Speaker 4: is wrong? Yes, And I think that's the hardest piece
Speaker 4: of it is because I'm like, it's something else. I
Speaker 4: probably I when you know your baby and I'm like,
Speaker 4: they are screaming in pain, Like he can't tell me
Speaker 4: what it is, but I don't. He is screaming constantly
Speaker 4: in pain. Something else is wrong, you know. And so
Speaker 4: that pieces was was you know, we end up obviously
Speaker 4: getting to the to the bottom of it, but it
Speaker 4: was and I was, you know, when we had the
Speaker 4: snowstorm right last week and snowstorm you stand, we had
Speaker 4: Catherine's version of a snowstorm last week.
Speaker 5: I was like, there's literally.
Speaker 2: When you were raised here, we have to keep defending them.
Speaker 1: I just go online and people are like, it's covered
Speaker 1: in nice like right, let's stay home.
Speaker 2: A friend that was like, it looks slick outside. It
Speaker 2: looks if you've been out. I mean you just put
Speaker 2: your little tattooth on the ground. Yeah.
Speaker 4: But it was all of that, and then you guys know,
Speaker 4: I mean, Roman is the happiest human beings of all times. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I mean, like the happiest, and I think what was well?
Speaker 4: And then also with Alan, thank god he's back, but
Speaker 4: there was and I was telling Christen, this is so
Speaker 4: he starts feeling bad, you know, And this was now
Speaker 4: weeks or whatever. But it's one of those things where
Speaker 4: I then also got sick. But I'm okay.
Speaker 2: I know.
Speaker 4: I've gone on my stories and I've complained about complained.
Speaker 4: I'd be like, oh I hurt my knee or my back,
Speaker 4: but it's usually one story, blip done. Like I I
Speaker 4: don't like to chronically complain about things that are minus relationships.
Speaker 4: We're just being real, right, Like I have chronically complained
Speaker 4: about relationships on my stories, but not in a way
Speaker 4: where it's like I'm meaning to. It's almost like I
Speaker 4: did it as like an out and out cry to
Speaker 4: try to relate, right. I don't know, maybe that's kind
Speaker 4: of how but I've I've followed people who are constantly
Speaker 4: like complaining about them being sick or and it's like
Speaker 4: I don't personally like to see that. So I think
Speaker 4: it's okay to be like I'm down and out, but
Speaker 4: for some reason, I have a tough time being like,
Speaker 4: all right, I'm I'm down and out right.
Speaker 2: Is it like, do you mean social media or just
Speaker 2: in general? I think a little bit of both, because
Speaker 2: I won't ever say right.
Speaker 4: Like, I don't feel like, well, exactly, I have COVID.
Speaker 1: I figured you probably did. Yeah, I do, sound I
Speaker 1: am very congested.
Speaker 2: So I just saying, so, is there some sort of
Speaker 2: sponsorship for life?
Speaker 6: Well?
Speaker 4: But the thing is is like when he started feeling bad,
Speaker 4: and it's like I don't actually think I got it
Speaker 4: from him. I think I think my son actually had it,
Speaker 4: but he just didn't have really bad symptoms because I
Speaker 4: got it like the next day after, I like my
Speaker 4: back and it wasn't my normal back pain with my
Speaker 4: L four L five dispulge.
Speaker 2: It was the I mean.
Speaker 4: Radiating like pain, a headache that was like that hurts
Speaker 4: so bad.
Speaker 2: I couldn't even frickin think straight. You know. I had
Speaker 2: a fever.
Speaker 4: I'm like sweat, I felt miserable, and then the congestion came,
Speaker 4: and then the nose and all this. And but I
Speaker 4: had Alan out of town, right, we had I didn't
Speaker 4: have I don't have much help and so and then.
Speaker 2: He's so a sick baby in fairness, doesn't really want
Speaker 2: anyone but you anyways, so it doesn't quite matter. I mean, yeah,
Speaker 2: they're thankful for the dishes and the laundry or whatever, but.
Speaker 4: Right, and then I'm not sleeping on top of that
Speaker 4: because you know, sick baby or whatever. And so I'm
Speaker 4: you know, so and then I don't know why. I
Speaker 4: just I'm not going to go on and be like
Speaker 4: I'm sick too, Like who cares about me? Like we
Speaker 4: care about my sick baby, you know, like let's let's
Speaker 4: just I don't know, and I just again, I just
Speaker 4: don't love going on my story and saying that I'm sick.
Speaker 4: So then Alan's like, this is the funny piece of
Speaker 4: it because he's in one right, and I'm answering the FaceTime.
Speaker 4: It's like, you just don't seem very happy to see me,
Speaker 4: and I'm like, I am tired, I'm exhausted, I don't
Speaker 4: feel good, you know, with me very sick child. I'm sorry,
Speaker 4: I'm not answering the phone.
Speaker 2: Like hey baby, right, you know.
Speaker 4: So there was like a piece that. But then when
Speaker 4: he got home, he was like, oh man, and I
Speaker 4: mean he saw He's like, this is a lot, and
Speaker 4: I'm like, yeah, now smile yeah.
Speaker 2: And also a week two or three or whatever exactly, yeah,
Speaker 2: it's a lot. And so he got it.
Speaker 4: And so then he took him to the doctor's on Friday,
Speaker 4: and then the doctor kept saying, well, kids under two
Speaker 4: don't get struck.
Speaker 2: They It's like I've heard that before, so we don't
Speaker 2: swap them. And so I'm just like, but something is wrong,
Speaker 2: like something, and she's like, but you know, his fever
Speaker 2: had gone away, so you know, maybe he just doesn't
Speaker 2: like the feeling of the it hurts his throat because
Speaker 2: he's coughing.
Speaker 4: She's like, it is really really really red, you know.
Speaker 4: And so then on Sunday, what she was, if he
Speaker 4: spikes a fever again, take him in somewhere. Well, of course,
Speaker 4: he spiked a fever again yesterday, and so I'm like,
Speaker 4: let's go pack it up. We're going to the walk in,
Speaker 4: you know, and the lady we checked him for pneumonia
Speaker 4: because his ox was not great and which freaked me
Speaker 4: out because it was reading really really low. I go, friend,
Speaker 4: I don't like this because it was eighty and I
Speaker 4: was like, friend, I don't like this. No, it was
Speaker 4: because his hands were a little cold, Okay, but we
Speaker 4: still only got him to like ninety. Yeah, he still
Speaker 4: didn't feel good. I was like, a friend, I still
Speaker 4: don't like this, Like, yeah, we going to the doctor.
Speaker 4: She's like, just just just keep We had to keep
Speaker 4: it on for almost like an hour before they like
Speaker 4: felt good with us, like going home because it finally
Speaker 4: got up to like ninety six, Thank goodness, back to
Speaker 4: norms ish and so, but she's like, listen, normally kids
Speaker 4: don't have strap, but lo and behold, they swabbed him
Speaker 4: and he had strap, and I'm just like I knew it,
Speaker 4: Like I freaking knew something was wrong in the second
Speaker 4: he got antibiotics. I mean, he's feels so much better today,
Speaker 4: which is glorious and lovely, and so I feel that
Speaker 4: and so do you, thank you? But I feel like
Speaker 4: it's just been one of those. And this this goes
Speaker 4: on top of I don't know if I've I know
Speaker 4: I've talked talk to you guys about this, but I
Speaker 4: don't know if I've said it on here.
Speaker 2: I can't remember if I have then stopped me I've
Speaker 2: heard this one.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I notoriously have a really hard time in January
Speaker 4: and February because I don't really know what the year
Speaker 4: is looking like. I don't know work wise, what it's like.
Speaker 4: I feel a lot of pressure January, January and February
Speaker 4: with just like financial stress and what is it going
Speaker 4: to look? Am I going to work at all? Am
Speaker 4: I gonna Is this movie really going to go through
Speaker 4: or not? And so I just feel a lot of pressure.
Speaker 4: Come off the holidays and it's gloomy and it's rainy,
Speaker 4: and it's dark, and kids are sick and mind you,
Speaker 4: the kids had flu, you know, two weeks prior. So
Speaker 4: it's just and I really need an I really need
Speaker 4: a vacation during this time, I really do like I
Speaker 4: need I need a break, I need some connection time
Speaker 4: with the husband, And so we were supposed to go somewhere.
Speaker 4: It ended up getting canceled for for other reasons, and
Speaker 4: obviously with Roman being sick and so on top of that,
Speaker 4: all I just had like this just breakdown where I
Speaker 4: was just like, I'm I'm so and I know I
Speaker 4: talked about this. Now I'm like, I'm just so tired,
Speaker 4: you know, and I'm like I need, I need a refresher.
Speaker 2: And so I booked a trip. God, we're going away.
Speaker 2: We're going to the Bahamas.
Speaker 4: But there's a piece of me that's like, oh God,
Speaker 4: am I gonna get like this in two weeks?
Speaker 2: I'm like, am I gonna get the fluid?
Speaker 4: So it's like I'm already starting to get like anxiety
Speaker 4: about do I am I gonna be able to get
Speaker 4: the break that I so desperately that we all desperately
Speaker 4: need and want right like I feel like we all
Speaker 4: when we need we get to that point. I just
Speaker 4: feel so on edge with a lot of things. And
Speaker 4: then this isn't even my wine about it, guys.
Speaker 5: No, I thought we were just going into the one.
Speaker 4: No no, no, so yeah, but do you know do
Speaker 4: you know what I mean? Like sometimes like and I
Speaker 4: don't know what it is for you guys, but like
Speaker 4: I'm I'm so when it comes to like the months,
Speaker 4: I'm once October hits, I'm okay to hunker down, be
Speaker 4: home and holidays. I love that time so much with
Speaker 4: the family. But January February, I now know that I
Speaker 4: need to at least go somewhere away for like a
Speaker 4: three nighter with my husband and see some and feel
Speaker 4: the warmth.
Speaker 2: Because yeah, I will say it's I always this, take
Speaker 2: this for what it's worth. But I feel like, so, Preston,
Speaker 2: is this exact way January February March.
Speaker 4: The sky is falling. The sky is falling. I'm like, oh,
Speaker 4: I'm like, we are broke, we are saving money.
Speaker 5: And we're going.
Speaker 2: But I mean I guess yeah, yeah, well and we
Speaker 2: did too. I mean we did the whole thing on points.
Speaker 2: I was like, okay, like it felt very savvy. Actually, yeah,
Speaker 2: I used our I used the air fair or the
Speaker 2: miles for the thing.
Speaker 4: We did do a beautiful resort is gifting. We're so lucky,
Speaker 4: We're so fortunate. Thank you, so much. Yeah, yeah, no, great,
Speaker 4: but right yeah.
Speaker 2: But also it's just funny because I feel, and I've
Speaker 2: said this to you before, like I feel like I've
Speaker 2: married you twice. So I've married I married Preston, and
Speaker 2: I married you. But I hear things in receive things
Speaker 2: differently when you say them. I have a different kind
Speaker 2: of compassion. So I actually enjoy when you talk about
Speaker 2: that because I'm like, I don't know, I don't maybe
Speaker 2: I'm not met with all the layers when you hear
Speaker 2: when you say it, I can hear it differently and
Speaker 2: a little more clearly and definitely more compassion. But we
Speaker 2: are in that mode right now, Like he leaves this week,
Speaker 2: and I was like, you need to be back on
Speaker 2: the road because I can feel that when he's out there,
Speaker 2: he feels like he's really working and doing and like
Speaker 2: he's working his tail off. We start our own label.
Speaker 2: It's like non freaking stop right now. But I think
Speaker 2: the road underneath him makes him feel like when he's
Speaker 2: out with people and he's doing and he's doing the shit,
Speaker 2: like it just feeds him differently. It's the same thing for.
Speaker 4: You, no, for sure, because it's like once March hits
Speaker 4: it's like ads start to pick up some more. I
Speaker 4: at least know of some maybe potential movie or it
Speaker 4: just it feels like it's picking up more. It's nicer outside,
Speaker 4: you know. It's like I and I just iverything gets
Speaker 4: when it's gloomy, raining and too long, because it's like, again,
Speaker 4: I love November December doing nothing that when it hits
Speaker 4: that January February, I get it. Even I freaking did
Speaker 4: a movie in January. But still, for some reason, it
Speaker 4: didn't really feel that felt like last year to me
Speaker 4: in a way, it was so top of the year.
Speaker 4: I don't know, you know what I mean, Like I forget,
Speaker 4: like like, oh, but it just felt like last year
Speaker 4: and February. No, now that time, these have been really
Speaker 4: like these two months have been long years. Yeah, I
Speaker 4: mean like February is twenty eight days and I feel
Speaker 4: like we've been in it for a hundred Yeah weird,
Speaker 4: oh god. But I also think though, and this is
Speaker 4: something that's an interesting point that I wanted to bring
Speaker 4: to the host chat about. Is I just and this
Speaker 4: is this is wildly like you guys already know this,
Speaker 4: but I just don't think we are allowed sick days
Speaker 4: so much so that even I love our dear friend
Speaker 4: that we had, you know, her beautiful event and I
Speaker 4: wanted to go to but when I was like, hey girl,
Speaker 4: I'm not feeling well, and she's like, you gotta come.
Speaker 4: So it's like to even like say like, I'm not
Speaker 4: feeling good, but then still it's like no, it's like
Speaker 4: we have to.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: It's like and I would have felt terrible to miss it,
Speaker 2: but also it's like.
Speaker 4: I don't know how things keep going when we can't
Speaker 4: be sick. It's like I almost I think one of
Speaker 4: the reasons why I didn't share it on social media
Speaker 4: was because I'm like, I almost can't even speak it.
Speaker 2: Out that it's true. I just have to go go
Speaker 2: through it. Same. Yeah.
Speaker 1: See, I don't agree with that though philosophy go. I don't.
Speaker 1: I think with kids we are an allowed sick days,
Speaker 1: like we still have to parent. But I don't think
Speaker 1: that we should be forced to do outside things because.
Speaker 2: We're sick, even for a best friend.
Speaker 5: Well, did you have COVID when we went?
Speaker 2: Well, I didn't test until after Okay, so I mean
Speaker 2: but yes.
Speaker 5: I did, So what That's my point. I'm not trying
Speaker 5: to like throw you under the thing.
Speaker 1: But I'm like at that point, like, please don't take
Speaker 1: this in the wrong way, but like I'm snotty now,
Speaker 1: it would have been great to have known, and like
Speaker 1: you stayed home.
Speaker 2: But you don't even think COVID is a thing though,
Speaker 2: like you think I think it's a real thing. No,
Speaker 2: but I mean like you're like, oh, whatever, it's just
Speaker 2: like a cold.
Speaker 5: Well, it depends on whoever.
Speaker 1: I might not think that it was like everything needed
Speaker 1: to be around it, but I absolutely think COVID was.
Speaker 5: It's a real thing.
Speaker 1: But I also am very much for like, if someone
Speaker 1: doesn't feel good, stay home, like you still have to parent,
Speaker 1: Like and you're exhausted because you still have to parent.
Speaker 1: I don't like the outside pressure pressure. I'd agree because
Speaker 1: again you're already exhausted and you don't have a choice
Speaker 1: but to parent. There's not a choice there, So I
Speaker 1: think that there should be choice on the other end.
Speaker 1: I'm not giving you crap. That's fine, we're around each other,
Speaker 1: stick off.
Speaker 4: Well, I'll say this though, like when I did go
Speaker 4: to I was more just like my headache, back pain
Speaker 4: was away, my fever was was broken. Right, I would
Speaker 4: just have exhausted exactly by that point.
Speaker 1: But my point for that is that you should you
Speaker 1: should be able to stay home in that regard, and
Speaker 1: I think that that's where we all have a really
Speaker 1: hard time with boundaries. I think that that's where everyone
Speaker 1: has a hard time saying, you know, no, I can't
Speaker 1: I'm sick. But I think that that's okay, Like we
Speaker 1: should be able to do that, and there's certain things
Speaker 1: where you can't.
Speaker 5: Like again, I'm feeling congested now.
Speaker 1: I know I get on a flight on Thursday, and
Speaker 1: I don't have a choice, Like I have to take
Speaker 1: my daughter where we're going. It doesn't matter if I
Speaker 1: have the flu, it doesn't matter. I have to go.
Speaker 1: But I think certain things there should be There should
Speaker 1: be more we should be able to say, I need
Speaker 1: to say home today, I'm sick well.
Speaker 2: And I also wonder right like we keep saying like
Speaker 2: it's like running everywhere in it's ramp, but it's like
Speaker 2: if we all did tend to ourselves better, then perhaps.
Speaker 5: Then everyone will be sick. Yeah, when I think it's.
Speaker 4: The season two, like today, yeah sixty and like things
Speaker 4: are blooming and that means.
Speaker 1: Probably so much. Sure, that is probably why I'm congested.
Speaker 1: Because when the weather changes, I always get say and
Speaker 1: it's gone.
Speaker 2: Like I'm not saying you're superad that's but it's a
Speaker 2: good thing. If everyone really had the time and energy
Speaker 2: and like the was able to rest.
Speaker 1: To sleep and you get hydra get yeah, you get better, quicker,
Speaker 1: you get you know.
Speaker 5: But yeah, I mean, yes, I agree with you.
Speaker 1: There is that pressure that people put We put that
Speaker 1: pressure on ourselves, and other people put that pressure on us.
Speaker 1: I just don't think that we have to allow it.
Speaker 1: I mean I think that we it's okay to say, hey,
Speaker 1: no i'm sick. I'm gonna say home today.
Speaker 4: I mean, I'll never forget the one person that and
Speaker 4: I ended up not going. But it was when I
Speaker 4: was pregnant with Roman, I had food poisoning and I
Speaker 4: was like, hey, i've been up throwing up all night
Speaker 4: and I cannot come. I'm so sorry to miss your event.
Speaker 4: And the it wasn't like I'm so sorry, feel better
Speaker 4: or what can I do even though I don't need anything,
Speaker 4: but it was but I made gift gift boxes for everybody,
Speaker 4: and like you have a name, a seated chart thing,
Speaker 4: and I'm like, it's it's not a wedding and I'm
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, I don't feel good.
Speaker 2: You know. Yeah, it's so it's I think people just
Speaker 2: need to give grace. I guys, I don't. I don't
Speaker 2: know where we are. I need my narrator to tell
Speaker 2: me where we are in the program.
Speaker 1: We're not to whine about it yet, Okay, I don't think.
Speaker 1: But I'm sorry you went through all that. That's hard
Speaker 1: when you have a sick baby and then you're sick.
Speaker 4: Yeah again, I don't. I didn't get to like his
Speaker 4: level of like right. I just was like because he
Speaker 4: had like all the body pains, like you know, I
Speaker 4: had a fever for a day and a half.
Speaker 2: But yeah, he I mean he liked Yeah. I will
Speaker 2: say on the other side of that, though, I do
Speaker 2: think it's like super super important to like have at
Speaker 2: least one day where you can just take a minute. Well,
Speaker 2: it was great.
Speaker 4: So the when Alan got home is when he really
Speaker 4: was like sleeping and I finally and I sleep better
Speaker 4: when he's here. I don't sleep well regardless when he's gone.
Speaker 4: I like having him in bed with me. I just
Speaker 4: I just yeah, I always sleep better when he's here.
Speaker 4: So the last few nights I just needed a few
Speaker 4: good nights of sleep, and I'm like, oh, I feel
Speaker 4: so much better. Like I'm still congested, but again I
Speaker 4: don't know if that's because of allergies or whatever, and.
Speaker 2: Like, you know, yeah, you need to sleep.
Speaker 4: And for me, like even though my symptoms were gone,
Speaker 4: I had like one of those little at home tests.
Speaker 4: That's why I was like I wonder if I I'm
Speaker 4: like I must have had it too, you know, just
Speaker 4: because I had like some symptoms or whatever. But by
Speaker 4: that point, like I was like my symptoms were not
Speaker 4: like m like the actual symptoms were like gone, but
Speaker 4: I was still tested positive.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Also just rest and water. I don't know about
Speaker 2: you guys, but like this is forties.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like if I don't get good rest, like a
Speaker 2: couple of nights on the row, I felt like garbage
Speaker 2: last week. And it was just because we did a
Speaker 2: couple of nights at Opritinland not a lot of sleep,
Speaker 2: and I mean I literally felt hung over for three
Speaker 2: days and I hadn't had a drop of alcohol. It
Speaker 2: was just like run down feeling. That's just super important.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So two things. One, I just want to preface you
Speaker 1: don't come after me. I do think COVID is a
Speaker 1: real thing.
Speaker 2: I want to clarify.
Speaker 5: I just want to clarify.
Speaker 4: Yep.
Speaker 1: Second question going back to that, So you were having
Speaker 1: issues with the doctor that we talked about a couple
Speaker 1: of weeks ago and then he got sick.
Speaker 5: Did you take him back to that doctor?
Speaker 2: No, so they we have we're seeing someone else in
Speaker 2: the practice.
Speaker 1: Okay, so you went back to that other doctor in
Speaker 1: the practice and the other yeah.
Speaker 4: Well, well the other the other two have been just
Speaker 4: whoever was on call. But I made sure it wasn't
Speaker 4: the one that got it we had saw. And then
Speaker 4: the last time we took him in, I was I stayed,
Speaker 4: I stayed back. Alan took Roman and I FaceTime with
Speaker 4: the new doctor that we were going to be seeing.
Speaker 4: She's the one who ended up not swabbing. We had
Speaker 4: to do the walk in for the swap. But I said, hey,
Speaker 4: we're supposed to have a vaccination potentially appointment next week
Speaker 4: and a conversation about it. And she goes, let's push
Speaker 4: it out until he's better. Let's wait a month, And
Speaker 4: I said, oh, I appreciate that.
Speaker 2: All right.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, She's like, because regardless of what we do,
Speaker 4: we're not going to do it when a system's down.
Speaker 4: And I was like, great, love you already, you know, sure,
Speaker 4: and I've rescheduled appointment for a month, gotcha.
Speaker 1: So but yeah, yeah, I was just curious how that
Speaker 1: because it's like, wow, that timing. I was thinking about that.
Speaker 1: I'm like, all that happened, and then he gets sick,
Speaker 1: So I was curious how I know.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so no, And and a lot of people thought, oh,
Speaker 4: did you did he get a vaccination and then get sick?
Speaker 4: And I was like no, no, no, So it's interesting.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, I just want to clarify that
Speaker 1: anybody else what you got going on?
Speaker 2: I have to say I had a vulnerability hangover after
Speaker 2: I left last time. Yeah, spiraled, I spiraled. I was
Speaker 2: like I shouldn't have cried about it. I should have
Speaker 2: worded it differently. I even actually sent a message to
Speaker 2: Hannah and I was like, will you just when you listen,
Speaker 2: like be really object like am I gonna like look
Speaker 2: like a loser? Like I don't because I just felt
Speaker 2: like I wasn't framing it and it's so emotionally charged
Speaker 2: for me. Anyways, all that to say, I have gotten
Speaker 2: the freaking you have the best listeners like these women
Speaker 2: guys like I am, They are incredible. Everyone's like, you
Speaker 2: have to do it for you, you are going to
Speaker 2: love this. I'm sixty three. I wish I would have
Speaker 2: done it earlier. All of that, I mean, the most
Speaker 2: supportive and a really dear friend of mine that I
Speaker 2: didn't even know was thinking these things wrote and was
Speaker 2: like Kristin, I this has been bothering me more than
Speaker 2: I even knew, and listening to you say it like
Speaker 2: I wept with you because it's it doesn't feel silly,
Speaker 2: but it feels silly, and it just was incredible. So
Speaker 2: I'm grateful. Maybe I'll get myself a consultation. I think
Speaker 2: you all younger right now? Does he want to give
Speaker 2: me a discount right now? By one boob get one? Probably? Anyways,
Speaker 2: I do feel excited, so I think, I mean, for
Speaker 2: what it's they're lifting me quite literally up. Well.
Speaker 1: I think that I hate that you had a hagged
Speaker 1: over about it, but I'm glad that it seems to
Speaker 1: I don't.
Speaker 2: I mean it just I think because so many people
Speaker 2: feel the same, which is also why I appreciate us
Speaker 2: and this format, because I literally keep it in so
Speaker 2: long That's why I think the tears were there because
Speaker 2: I've attached a million judgments and everything to it. Anyway,
Speaker 2: it's not worth rehashing. But I just thought, like, oh,
Speaker 2: I didn't realize so many women also felt this way.
Speaker 6: M hm.
Speaker 2: You know, we just don't talk about it.
Speaker 5: No, But that's the thing. That's what we're here for.
Speaker 5: That's what this is here for.
Speaker 1: Like, let's just talk about things, and you know, people
Speaker 1: might might not love that we're struggling with.
Speaker 5: It, but that's okay because that's our struggles.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right. Aimen to that is anyone watching Love
Speaker 2: is Blind.
Speaker 5: Please talk about it?
Speaker 2: Can we? Oh my god? I finished? Well, I mean
Speaker 2: we're waiting right to get twenty eight. Yeah. I'm obsessed
Speaker 2: with the season. Kramer. It's so good and you have
Speaker 2: to start watching. You have to. No, no, no, no.
Speaker 4: Don't you think he's being a little bit too much
Speaker 4: about that whole relie. I think you don't like them exactly.
Speaker 4: You don't like her, that's the thing. He I'm like,
Speaker 4: he doesn't like her. He's he I don't think he
Speaker 4: likes her, and he's missing out because she's a great chick.
Speaker 2: I you're a freaking girl.
Speaker 4: Sorry, I just feel so bad for her because it's
Speaker 4: like he's, yeah, he's making Lauren feel so bad about
Speaker 4: something that's so insignificant.
Speaker 3: They weren't.
Speaker 2: It wasn't even a boyfriend, it wasn't even a relationship.
Speaker 2: So it wasn't before she It was before she knew
Speaker 2: he existed.
Speaker 4: And who gives a flying float whatever that.
Speaker 2: It was? Who cares that she was hanging out with
Speaker 2: them or hooking up with them a day before that?
Speaker 2: It's nothing? Who can okay? And doesn't mean she's not
Speaker 2: right for marriage?
Speaker 5: Hey?
Speaker 2: Well, and are we speaking for you or passion?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 2: I would agree, And I think I like the season
Speaker 2: the most. I told Preston this a because I do
Speaker 2: think there's some Midwest roots that feel really good while
Speaker 2: we're watching. But I also feel like it's a very
Speaker 2: emotionally mature cast. Like for some reason, the way they're
Speaker 2: sorting things and the way they're holding things, the way
Speaker 2: they're phrasing things, the way that they don't feel the
Speaker 2: pressure to have to say yes or leave with someone,
Speaker 2: I'm just like, Oh, this feels good. I like it.
Speaker 4: I do believe Mason got a short end of this,
Speaker 4: Like I don't believe that he should have been treated
Speaker 4: that way.
Speaker 2: I would say, we disagree, okay, m hm. So I
Speaker 2: don't like that he too time in.
Speaker 4: No, I don't like that he told the but I
Speaker 4: don't think the punishment should have been that harsh.
Speaker 2: I don't think so either. But I also, I mean,
Speaker 2: if you know you're someone's not someone's first pick, right,
Speaker 2: I think he started to scramble. He did also give
Speaker 2: the guy a little like it was just a little
Speaker 2: too harsh in my win. Okay, I'll give you that
Speaker 2: only because the premise of the show is date these
Speaker 2: people get to know these people. But I also, man,
Speaker 2: it is like, also, dude, come on. Yeah, I'm trying
Speaker 2: not to say too much because Kat hasn't watched it yet.
Speaker 2: I really wanted to get in.
Speaker 5: You can say as much as you want. I probably
Speaker 5: won't watch it.
Speaker 3: I know.
Speaker 2: And he's adorable and I think he's so cute. I'm
Speaker 2: excited for the second part of the season when they
Speaker 2: all get to finally see each other and like, because
Speaker 2: I really think there's going to be we are going
Speaker 2: to be living in Regretville some of them for sure. Oh,
Speaker 2: it's such a good season. They're great, I am.
Speaker 4: There's another documentary called, uh well, I mean the Gabby
Speaker 4: Pettit documentary.
Speaker 2: I can't. I can't watch it.
Speaker 4: I did watch it. I'm not going to be able
Speaker 4: to watch that one. Alan's like, do you I said, no,
Speaker 4: I can't.
Speaker 2: I'm not.
Speaker 4: It's too it's too close to home with the all
Speaker 4: of it, and I just, for some reason, that one
Speaker 4: hit me really hard when it happened, and I was like,
Speaker 4: I just can't do it.
Speaker 5: So I did watch it. It didn't show a whole
Speaker 5: lot surprising.
Speaker 1: I mean, I can understand why he wouldn't want to
Speaker 1: watch it, but it was one of those where I
Speaker 1: felt like, I mean, they did definitely, like one clip
Speaker 1: kind of like hit on like the domestic violence part
Speaker 1: of it, but it really didn't get into it very much,
Speaker 1: which was weird because it was just kind of more
Speaker 1: about their road trip and the you know, the police
Speaker 1: stopped them at one point and there was something, but
Speaker 1: it didn't I don't know. That part was kind of
Speaker 1: a bizarre part of the story because it was kind
Speaker 1: of showing her as the aggressor and not him. But
Speaker 1: besides that, it didn't really get into it as much
Speaker 1: as I expected. It too, but yeah, just hard.
Speaker 4: Well that note, let's take a break and then get
Speaker 4: back to my favorite segment.
Speaker 2: Of the show.
Speaker 6: About it because we haven't gone there yet. Okay, and
Speaker 6: we're back.
Speaker 2: I love you too so much. I really do. I
Speaker 2: just really do. I miss us being out. This makes
Speaker 2: me feel like we're out and I like it, you see.
Speaker 5: I like being here cozy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but like I think this is what I always miss,
Speaker 2: like what I like about when we go out, and
Speaker 2: so this is what I like.
Speaker 1: That's what I was gonna say earlier when Jane I
Speaker 1: was like, you know, I need a you know away
Speaker 1: and all that, I was like, man, I just really
Speaker 1: like being in and cozy. The more I get, I
Speaker 1: just get worse the older I get. Yeah, I need Son,
Speaker 1: I do need Sun. I am definitely feeling better already
Speaker 1: with the sign. I sat out at softball practice yesterday
Speaker 1: and like, I felt so good.
Speaker 4: So good ladies. There's there something in your life kids,
Speaker 4: husband that you want to vent or need our advice on.
Speaker 2: Why did everyone look at me?
Speaker 5: And I'm thinking I have I.
Speaker 2: Wanted to give it to y'all.
Speaker 1: I really don't have anything to I will say, Can
Speaker 1: I do a quick update to my wine about it
Speaker 1: last week, you know the whole like cheer and catches
Speaker 1: and all that she had the best practice of real
Speaker 1: life yesterday. Everyone was awesome and I'm just really thankful
Speaker 1: that I spoke up. I'm really proud that I spoke
Speaker 1: up and it was all a great day and she
Speaker 1: had the best practice and I'm happy. So that's not
Speaker 1: a whine about it. Just will update.
Speaker 2: Mine might be a tiny whine about it. It's a
Speaker 2: quick one. But I'm just wondering where we all are
Speaker 2: with the chores and the kids with chores, specifically probably
Speaker 2: U Kramer because we have similar ages. I am addicted
Speaker 2: to efficiency, like it's a very a type oc like
Speaker 2: I do have compulsive tendencies. It's like a legit thing.
Speaker 2: So when things don't seem efficient, I get frustrated. When
Speaker 2: I'm doing the same thing over and over and over again,
Speaker 2: like cleaning up after people, I get really resentful really fast.
Speaker 2: And then I walk past my degree hanging on the
Speaker 2: wall and I get this like tinge where I'm like,
Speaker 2: I worked my ass off and now I'm you know,
Speaker 2: like I have three clients I clean up after. Okay,
Speaker 2: So my question is I guess and maybe it is
Speaker 2: slightly whining about it, but like I'm kind of all
Speaker 2: set cleaning up after everyone, Like the rooms are always
Speaker 2: a mess and they are kids, And I remember, Legend
Speaker 2: has something in his brain. I'm going to find out
Speaker 2: what he is. He's very specific and so when he
Speaker 2: we're really doing well together, by the way, which feels
Speaker 2: good to talk about that couple's update. He when he
Speaker 2: creates something, if I make him like clean it up
Speaker 2: at the end of the day, it pains him, Like
Speaker 2: it's it's not a little kid throwing a fit kind
Speaker 2: of thing. It's a very like soul crushing. So so
Speaker 2: i've he has created in that He's created a cruise
Speaker 2: ship inside of his bedroom right now, and it is
Speaker 2: made of magnetiles and a tiny million trinkets. He's collected
Speaker 2: rolls of tape things from all over the house to
Speaker 2: create this cruise ship and it's it's incredible. Also, it
Speaker 2: is massive, and it is now it's on its fourth
Speaker 2: week at sea, and I'm exhausted, and I would love
Speaker 2: for it to be Like, so, at what point are
Speaker 2: we like, you know, like we don't want them. I
Speaker 2: don't want them operating out of fear like I did.
Speaker 2: But then I also I'm just like like I would
Speaker 2: love a clean house once in a while too.
Speaker 1: Help me, well, I will say, when do chores start,
Speaker 1: like my kids haven't done chores.
Speaker 5: For a while.
Speaker 2: I mean, we're doing chores, by the way.
Speaker 1: Let me just I don't feel like kids doing chores
Speaker 1: is for the OCD at heart, because, for instance, our
Speaker 1: kids have to do the dishes, the big ones, so
Speaker 1: Caden and Emmy switch off. Well, when Emmy's at cheer,
Speaker 1: it might not get done that night, but guess what,
Speaker 1: it's going to sit there and it's going to wait
Speaker 1: for her to do it, which would.
Speaker 2: Kill you kill But I can feel my throat, yes exactly.
Speaker 1: The dishes don't get done the way I want them,
Speaker 1: they don't get put away the way I want them.
Speaker 1: I've learned to just go, okay, you know, hey, guys,
Speaker 1: let's do it this way. But it's never done perfectly
Speaker 1: because they're young, and it's not how they want it.
Speaker 1: It's how I want it, you know. So I've had
Speaker 1: to learn I'm not OCD, So I even I've had
Speaker 1: to adjust with that.
Speaker 5: Will that part won't be hard for you, I can
Speaker 5: promise you that.
Speaker 2: Like I've left it to Okay, it's in the rooms,
Speaker 2: so now, like common space is always cleaned up. Legend
Speaker 2: does do that. He loves to put the way of
Speaker 2: the dishes in the morning. Like they have these like
Speaker 2: household I don't even like to use the word chores,
Speaker 2: but like they have the household responsibilities to do with
Speaker 2: us every day. The rooms. I'm like, am I raising savages?
Speaker 5: Well, I would make them clean their own rooms. I
Speaker 5: mean maybe with help.
Speaker 1: I mean I feel like Ramsey now at this point,
Speaker 1: she's eight almost nine, she cleans her room. Is it
Speaker 1: done to the level that I would like? Absolutely not,
Speaker 1: So I still have her clean to her ability, and
Speaker 1: then I may come back and do a little bit more.
Speaker 1: But like if she's super proud of it and things
Speaker 1: that looks great, I try not to touch it.
Speaker 2: Okay, I mean they do clean, but no, their versions
Speaker 2: and never gonna be aversion.
Speaker 1: I'm not cleaning my older kids rooms. I'm not touching
Speaker 1: them like they are.
Speaker 2: Nick, do you clean up after him at all?
Speaker 1: I am? Okay, Well, it's kind of changed through the
Speaker 1: years because we're just so busy, but.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's hardily.
Speaker 4: My kids are like they're they're great with They always
Speaker 4: put their plates in the sink after they eat.
Speaker 2: You know, they.
Speaker 4: Put the milk away. They do cereal put the cereal
Speaker 4: boxes away. Sometimes do you have to remind them, Sure,
Speaker 4: but most of time they do. They are now doing
Speaker 4: making their beds, you know, before school. But it's in
Speaker 4: they they do their i quote unquote their laundry. So
Speaker 4: they they throw it in, yeah, and do that and
Speaker 4: then you know, stuff like that, so they bring it down,
Speaker 4: they'll put it in. I obviously fold it and put
Speaker 4: it away and all that. But what I and what
Speaker 4: I'm trying to do with the kids is Okay, hang
Speaker 4: your jackets here instead of just throwing them on the ground.
Speaker 4: Those are things that I have to kind of remind them.
Speaker 4: And then when it comes to uh uh. The big
Speaker 4: big thing with them is trash. I'm like, you guys,
Speaker 4: when they're in the playroom or I'm like, you have
Speaker 4: a trash can?
Speaker 2: Put this this trash? Why is it?
Speaker 3: Like?
Speaker 4: This is not They'll put it in like a cubby.
Speaker 4: I'm like, this is not a trash can. Please, And
Speaker 4: I'm like, what can I do that can help you?
Speaker 4: Would you like an actual trash can in the playroom. Now,
Speaker 4: would you like me to move the one from your back,
Speaker 4: or like get another one so that way you can.
Speaker 4: So I'm going to have to get a one because
Speaker 4: it's like they just can't go from the playroom to
Speaker 4: their room to throw it away.
Speaker 2: It's just too fit. Trash is where I'm struggling.
Speaker 4: But what I will say to this and what has
Speaker 4: helped me is and I know I've talked about it
Speaker 4: at some point on some either adult education, I don't
Speaker 4: know what we're here, but Amy had said, because my
Speaker 4: thing is I always feel like things are being left
Speaker 4: for me to clean up and put away, and you know,
Speaker 4: it's like nobody cares that they're walking over the coats.
Speaker 4: It's like, why can't they just pick? I mean, and
Speaker 4: I mean every human in this house. I feel like
Speaker 4: I'm the only one picking and putting, you know, and
Speaker 4: it gets becomes frustrating. And so what Amy had mentioned
Speaker 4: is she's like, in however many years it is, ten, twelve, whatever,
Speaker 4: She's like, you will so badly want that box of
Speaker 4: cinnamon cereal on the counter. And she's like, and this
Speaker 4: place Matt left or the best She's like, you're going
Speaker 4: to want that. She's like, and your house is lived
Speaker 4: in and it's loved. So she's like, it is a
Speaker 4: lived home with children, and she's like, you're going to
Speaker 4: want that when it's gone one day. I agree, so
Speaker 4: just to go, Okay, this is a.
Speaker 2: Very lived in, beautiful home with children, and I feel
Speaker 2: that way. I think your progresm is is that I go,
Speaker 2: when does it go lived in? To take an advantage of?
Speaker 2: And that's where I'm like, I don't want to do this,
Speaker 2: like I love that, like there's a mark on the wall.
Speaker 2: I don't care, Like I I feel like the third
Speaker 2: baby really did it for me, if I'm honest, like
Speaker 2: after three you just really have to let go. You
Speaker 2: have to. But like I'm just like, damn it, you guys,
Speaker 2: Like there's like and I don't get angry anymore, but
Speaker 2: I am to the point where I'm like, this is
Speaker 2: unfair to me. Like I could also be doing other things.
Speaker 2: If I wasn't constantly cleaning up everyone's everything.
Speaker 1: I would just keep having them do it. I do
Speaker 1: and I don't may not be perfect, but it'll you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, don't make the way that I would.
Speaker 4: But I'm like, great, that's how that's so creatively cute
Speaker 4: how she wants to make it awesome.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I like that, I do, but we don't make beds,
Speaker 2: and I think that could be a really good habit,
Speaker 2: so I actually, yeah, we take that and we're gonna
Speaker 2: try it on this week.
Speaker 4: Yeah it's fun because the way that they make it
Speaker 4: is really cute.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think, Yeah, I don't even care how, I
Speaker 2: just will. Honestly, I'm at the point where I'm like
Speaker 2: any sort of effort feels so like Legend loves to clean,
Speaker 2: he loves to spray things down and white things up,
Speaker 2: and I'm like, that is handsome. I could care less
Speaker 2: what your sprain, just keeps sprain.
Speaker 4: I think our challenge is that because the kids are
Speaker 4: in two different houses, how they treat one house is acceptable.
Speaker 4: And that's what we're trying to manage over here is
Speaker 4: like this is you don't do that here, you know
Speaker 4: what I mean. But I'm also trying to remember to
Speaker 4: have you know what grace, well not grace, but like
Speaker 4: trying to remember what Amy said, because honestly, that helped
Speaker 4: me so much not get so anal because and I
Speaker 4: get so like, oh my god, I saw and this
Speaker 4: really gets me is when I see a ring on
Speaker 4: the table that my new table is ruined because if
Speaker 4: a you know, someone didn't use a coaster, stuff like
Speaker 4: that when it is an expensive like I work hard
Speaker 4: for to have these nice things, and.
Speaker 2: It really like I get really upset that.
Speaker 4: I'm like, does nobody respect the like that's a nice,
Speaker 4: lovely wooden coffee table we have, you know, But then
Speaker 4: I just have to remember to take a breath.
Speaker 5: That's why we don't have those nice things.
Speaker 2: Well, like I grew up not having like we didn't
Speaker 2: have new things, Like we really didn't, like we really
Speaker 2: didn't have the bestest, newest, nicest things. But like my
Speaker 2: dad was so of all the things my dad wasn't
Speaker 2: My dad was really big about instilling that we just
Speaker 2: take good care of what we have. So when that
Speaker 2: I think that's part of it too. As I'm going
Speaker 2: my raising savages, like you know, they already live in
Speaker 2: such such an insta world in a society where they
Speaker 2: can you know, they don't They're not like hey can
Speaker 2: I can we we the they say the words can
Speaker 2: we order this?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: You know, like it's like a wild So maybe it's
Speaker 2: a disconnect even just from like the way I was
Speaker 2: raised in the good ways to like, am I doing
Speaker 2: a good enough job? Like, are you guys going to
Speaker 2: be good members of society or are you going to
Speaker 2: be the guy in love is blind that she can't
Speaker 2: stand to be around because you leave your trash on
Speaker 2: the counter.
Speaker 1: You know, It's that all kids are like that, They
Speaker 1: really are. You just have to keep reminding them. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And I mean honestly, they'll get older and friends will
Speaker 1: come over and it will get worse because and their
Speaker 1: friends trash it exactly. And I'm sorry to interrupt you,
Speaker 1: but my room was disgusting. Same, I mean my mother same.
Speaker 4: I think back now, and I'm like, my poor mother
Speaker 4: because she's like, I can't even see your floor. I
Speaker 4: would leave so much crap and clothes and I mean
Speaker 4: every I mean you guys everywhere. Now, Oh my god,
Speaker 4: I've got three things hanging on a chair in my
Speaker 4: room and I'm thinking about it right now. My throat's
Speaker 4: closing because I got to go clean it.
Speaker 2: Right. But you know, so it's like, we know they're
Speaker 2: not going to be like that. Forever.
Speaker 4: I needed this, actually, you know, like it's they will
Speaker 4: be fine. And I think again, a lived house is
Speaker 4: a beautiful house. That is kind of the quote that
Speaker 4: I continue to repeat to myself so I don't lose
Speaker 4: my want to lose. I don't want my kids to
Speaker 4: be fearful that if they don't hang up their coat
Speaker 4: in the in the mudroom.
Speaker 2: But I'm gonna lose my That's not fair for them.
Speaker 2: They're kids. Yeah, I feel like I've been good on
Speaker 2: that part of it. I think I get too forward thinking.
Speaker 2: That's where I get which.
Speaker 4: Again, I think about yourself in your middle school age,
Speaker 4: in your room.
Speaker 2: They will be fine.
Speaker 5: And I think you can keep reminding them for sure. Yeah,
Speaker 5: they're gonna not probably do it. Just keep reminding them, Hey,
Speaker 5: we throw this away. Hey, let's do this.
Speaker 2: You know, thanks for lett me get it out of
Speaker 2: my body.
Speaker 5: So it's your wine.
Speaker 2: I just don't know if we have time now for
Speaker 2: my wine.
Speaker 5: Are you sure?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 2: I think you know you're gonna pinish. I think I'm
Speaker 2: going to sum it up.
Speaker 5: Okay, okay.
Speaker 4: I am at an age where I'm just done with
Speaker 4: people taking advantage. And when I feel like someone's taking
Speaker 4: advantage and continues to just want to take take, take, take, take,
Speaker 4: I voice it.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I wish everyone could see the look on here.
Speaker 2: I love that.
Speaker 5: I love it.
Speaker 4: I like this, and I don't know if they're ready
Speaker 4: for it.
Speaker 5: Oh, you haven't done it yet.
Speaker 2: No, I have.
Speaker 4: It was loud, and but no. I I just feel
Speaker 4: I just I'm just so sick of of of feeling
Speaker 4: taken advantage of and like someone my ax continues to
Speaker 4: just take take, take, take take and has no.
Speaker 2: And I'm just I'm just done.
Speaker 4: I'm like, you know what, I I will always be.
Speaker 4: I think I did my best. This is a season
Speaker 4: where I'm at I. I have always wanted to do
Speaker 4: what's right and the best for the kids and stuff.
Speaker 4: But I realized, I'm like, I actually don't need to
Speaker 4: be your friend. I don't want to be your friend,
Speaker 4: and I'm not going to pretend to be your friend.
Speaker 4: I think I tried, but there's a point where I'm like,
Speaker 4: when things continue to happen and I feel taken advantage of,
Speaker 4: I'm like, it's not a friend and I'm not going
Speaker 4: to pretend to be your friend and this is just
Speaker 4: not okay anymore. And I'll still be kosher and fine
Speaker 4: for the kids, but like there was no relationship there,
Speaker 4: and I'm actually like okay with it.
Speaker 2: In the season. Good. Yeah, have you read mel Robbins
Speaker 2: let them. I know we all know the theory, but
Speaker 2: have you read it yet? No? I haven't get ready.
Speaker 2: I mean, we all know it enough, and I think
Speaker 2: with enough therapy and all the amy that we've had,
Speaker 2: but just man, it is going to be like reading
Speaker 2: your like I felt like I was reading my diary
Speaker 2: the first fifty pages. Yeah wild Okay, y'all have to
Speaker 2: read it, And again a lot of it comes back
Speaker 2: to me and my resentment for the child support stuff.
Speaker 2: Sure that is, by the way, very but also like
Speaker 2: you know, fair in his point, and I don't want
Speaker 2: to always go back to it, but that is the
Speaker 2: piece that's like always hits so hard. But when you're
Speaker 2: when the other person is also not helping contribute to
Speaker 2: the things that they legally also need to contribute to,
Speaker 2: but yet I show up on time every time, it
Speaker 2: feels again taken advantage of, and it's like, okay, so
Speaker 2: it's just it's a it's just murky. And I start
Speaker 2: to go back to things that he has said that
Speaker 2: are oh, I'll do this, I'll do that, and I'm like,
Speaker 2: when they don't come to fruition, I'm like, why did
Speaker 2: I actually think he would change? Why did I actually
Speaker 2: think he'd follow through with something he said? And I
Speaker 2: just realized I'm like, oh no, They'll always be who he's,
Speaker 2: who that person is, and it just won't change. And
Speaker 2: so now I'm just like, and I don't need to
Speaker 2: believe the lies again and again and again and again,
Speaker 2: and I have to just swallow my anger and my
Speaker 2: frustrations of the years of him taking advantage of me.
Speaker 2: And I think when all this stuff comes up, all
Speaker 2: that past stuff starts to like fuel that resentment and
Speaker 2: that hate and anger, and it's like I have to
Speaker 2: work through that piece again. So it's like I'd rather
Speaker 2: just keep him at a distance because that is actually
Speaker 2: the healthiest thing for me, because the version that he
Speaker 2: says he's going to be is not ever actually going
Speaker 2: to happen. So I start to trust a version and
Speaker 2: it goes right back to the original. So I'm like, oh,
Speaker 2: why did I do this to myself? And then I
Speaker 2: start to build. Then the resentment comes again, and so
Speaker 2: it's just that constant circle of just crazy making. And
Speaker 2: so I'm like, I officially just have to arm's lengthy
Speaker 2: away and I will just always and you will just
Speaker 2: always be the taker in my life, and that's just
Speaker 2: unfortunate what it is. I just don't want you to
Speaker 2: attach any judgment to yourself. Like I feel like there's
Speaker 2: this I have a very it's not similar, but I
Speaker 2: have a I don't have the same, but it's a
Speaker 2: similar situation where the resentment is like constant and I've
Speaker 2: had to just keep turning it back over. But I
Speaker 2: feel like every time I turn it back over, it
Speaker 2: gets a little easier and a little less and I
Speaker 2: get a little less hard on myself for the fact
Speaker 2: that I felt resentful. I think like I attached going
Speaker 2: like oh why do you feel this way, or like
Speaker 2: shame on me for thinking that, Kristen, or like it's
Speaker 2: like no, not actually, because that's actually fair to feel
Speaker 2: that way. And so I'll just keep turning it back
Speaker 2: over and eventually it'll just get lighter and easier and
Speaker 2: maybe I won't even have to.
Speaker 1: Well and boundaries are okay. I mean that just that
Speaker 1: is just I mean, I had a situation with someone,
Speaker 1: total different situation where I felt like I was being
Speaker 1: a taken advantage of and I went and said, I
Speaker 1: felt like I feel like I'm being taken advantage of.
Speaker 1: I can no longer do X that you have asked
Speaker 1: me to do and it was taken like what you know,
Speaker 1: and other people are like, I can't believe you would
Speaker 1: say that. I was like, I was very kind, but
Speaker 1: I had a boundary and I don't want to be
Speaker 1: taken advantage of. And it's okay to do that. I
Speaker 1: think we have to be kind, but we have to
Speaker 1: allow ourselves to have boundaries around ourselves because it shouldn't
Speaker 1: be able to affect us. And I know that your
Speaker 1: situation is hard because it's you're constantly having to deal
Speaker 1: with it, but like.
Speaker 5: You have to have boundaries around that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's no other way to do it because you
Speaker 1: keep kind of in a way letting him in. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because you're like, you know, it's going to be better.
Speaker 1: It's going to be better. We can all get along better,
Speaker 1: we can all do this, we can all He's not.
Speaker 4: Going to do this, And I think he like sweet
Speaker 4: talked to me in the fact of saying like one
Speaker 4: day I'm not going to take the check. That's never
Speaker 4: going to happen, oh never, And so I think with
Speaker 4: him saying that, it's like, no, you will always take
Speaker 4: and this is why you've just sweet talked me to
Speaker 4: believe that, and it's just not the case.
Speaker 2: So we're you're you're.
Speaker 1: No well, And I think mentally you just have to
Speaker 1: know you're always going to pay that check. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: that's not going to be an option, and that is
Speaker 1: what it is. And so you can get past that.
Speaker 1: But know who this person is, who is taking advantage
Speaker 1: of you, whatever the situation is, and just know that
Speaker 1: it is what it is, and somehow come up with
Speaker 1: boundaries that helps protect your sanity.
Speaker 2: And I think God always supplements in my world forty
Speaker 2: three years out of forty three years, he is always
Speaker 2: supplemented where there is a deficit, always. Yeah, So if
Speaker 2: you have to pay out, he will in surplus catch
Speaker 2: you on the back end and he will make up
Speaker 2: for that. I always believe that. And then that can
Speaker 2: just be between him and God what he has to do. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's right, fair to whine about it.
Speaker 4: So the only headline that I really that really caught
Speaker 4: my attention this this week was about salmon sperm.
Speaker 3: So weird.
Speaker 4: Denise Ridgards is the latest star to try a salmon
Speaker 4: sperm facial.
Speaker 2: So and let me just tell you this.
Speaker 4: I have my very first facial, my very first facial
Speaker 4: where I use the blood.
Speaker 2: Oh I love that. I've never done that before and
Speaker 2: that's been around for how many years? Fifteen? Love it?
Speaker 4: Maybe more ever done it? But I'm really trying to
Speaker 4: again just like help with the elasma stuff and whatever else.
Speaker 4: And so this lady is like, you should really try
Speaker 4: that this. I don't know even what type of facial is.
Speaker 4: Basically they draw your blood, but now salmon sperm facial.
Speaker 4: Has anyone heard of this?
Speaker 2: I would vote me most likely to try anything too?
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know there's a good time
Speaker 2: to put sperm on your face ever. If I'm honest,
Speaker 2: I just just here's the salmon. Otherwise it just feels
Speaker 2: a little tricky. We've all had a little sperm, say it,
Speaker 2: don't you feel like? I guess where I go is?
Speaker 2: How did we find this?
Speaker 5: Out right?
Speaker 2: I feel like what world?
Speaker 1: Well I don't get facials often, but I feel like
Speaker 1: we don't know what's in half of them. So I
Speaker 1: feel like there's a world where you wouldn't even know
Speaker 1: that that's what's being put on your face.
Speaker 2: And what world are we in?
Speaker 5: So far?
Speaker 2: Deeply into the salmon that we think. You know, I
Speaker 2: don't know what this guy could do other than repro.
Speaker 4: Well, apparently the salmon sperm facials are said to rejuvenate
Speaker 4: and hydrate the skin while creating a glowy complexion. But
Speaker 4: I mean, I think it's one of those things where
Speaker 4: I mean, if you think about salmon and what it is, right,
Speaker 4: fish oils very good for you. I mean I take
Speaker 4: a fatty fifteen, which is a great, by the way, supplement.
Speaker 4: I love it so much. But h so you know
Speaker 4: that's really good for you. But again to your points,
Speaker 4: like how do we come up with this?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 2: And also the next time that you know, like are
Speaker 2: we going to be spreading listen whatever it's translating, it's translated.
Speaker 2: Would you do it though? Yeah?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I honestly I would do that over
Speaker 4: like a salmon blood or it's something like that.
Speaker 2: Like I'd rather I.
Speaker 4: Would do sperm on my face injected.
Speaker 5: Sure, I just feel like this.
Speaker 2: Is going to be so good. I would do sperm
Speaker 2: on my face.
Speaker 5: I'm just like, don't tell me and I won't know,
Speaker 5: Like I would have no idea.
Speaker 4: Right, I mean, you got to think about what you.
Speaker 4: Actually this is like, yeah, what you inject in your
Speaker 4: botox and all that stuff is like, you know, not
Speaker 4: great so, but this is an injections this is or
Speaker 4: is it inject I mean it's like a it's like
Speaker 4: one of those like micro it is in injected in
Speaker 4: my face, but like it's I think it's I make
Speaker 4: up that it's the thing that we eat caviar, do we?
Speaker 2: I don't people do?
Speaker 4: What is what is the thing you wouldn't put on
Speaker 4: your face for? To help a lot start with that,
Speaker 4: Like I wouldn't put I would never do like other
Speaker 4: people's anything. But if it comes down to, you know,
Speaker 4: a sperm of this, sure, but like I.
Speaker 2: Don't know, but when I get to that line, I'll
Speaker 2: let you.
Speaker 5: You let us know where your line is.
Speaker 3: Ok.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 5: Why don't you try it and let us know how
Speaker 5: it is? It's probably so expensive?
Speaker 2: Oh, I mean, well, first of all, think of the harvesting.
Speaker 2: I mean that's where I'm like, guys are where these
Speaker 2: poor guys are they driving into a sperm bank? Like
Speaker 2: how how do we get into actually that?
Speaker 5: I'm saying, Yeah, I'm good, y'all do it. I'm out.
Speaker 4: I'm honestly never going to be able to eat salmon
Speaker 4: the same way.
Speaker 5: Now I know, Yike, it's fine, everything's fine.
Speaker 4: The only other thing that I saw was Alec Balden's
Speaker 4: wife Hillary didn't understand what a prenup was but chose
Speaker 4: to just sign it. You know how I feel about prenup,
Speaker 4: Sir Alec Baldwin.
Speaker 5: Neither people just signing things.
Speaker 4: Well, that's that's the that's the headline piece of it
Speaker 4: that worries me. Because when people just signed, like oh
Speaker 4: I just signed it, I didn't know what I was signing.
Speaker 4: You could actually take that into court, like, for example,
Speaker 4: when Michaels was going to know what I was signing
Speaker 4: or whatever for the post nup, he was going to
Speaker 4: use that in court to be like I didn't know.
Speaker 2: It's like you knew what it was, you know what I.
Speaker 4: Mean, Like, what the hell's the point of even havingny
Speaker 4: signature if you can just go back and say I
Speaker 4: didn't know, right, But they can technically use that if
Speaker 4: they didn't have a lawyer present or if they didn't
Speaker 4: see Yeah, it's maddening, But the bottom line is always
Speaker 4: know what you're signing before I sign, and I'm saying
Speaker 4: this to myself because I will sign anything without reading it.
Speaker 2: Catherine here, I would I.
Speaker 4: Would have my life rights and my house sold to
Speaker 4: somebody else, because that's how I don't read stuff.
Speaker 5: I'm always like, please do not send this to her,
Speaker 5: because they do. When they do, it's like.
Speaker 4: I'm so sorry, coming in right here, this is actually
Speaker 4: I do not sign this. I haven't even looked over.
Speaker 4: I was like, no, it's totally fine. Like I said,
Speaker 4: I was gonna do it. She's like, you literally give
Speaker 4: your life away for five years and you get paid nothing.
Speaker 4: And I was like, okay, you yeah, And I'm like, okay,
Speaker 4: sounds great. Like I mean, I when we go into
Speaker 4: like I mean constant, it's just like do you go
Speaker 4: into autograph just the strips and thank God for her?
Speaker 2: I mean somewhere in between. I'm scared to sign anything,
Speaker 2: but I won't sign anything. But I need a Catherine
Speaker 2: in my life.
Speaker 1: I just which I mean, there are some things that
Speaker 1: are easy to just sign, but I'm just it just
Speaker 1: gets to you, and it can get into you in
Speaker 1: so much trouble. And when me think about the people
Speaker 1: that we know, celebrities who have gone to jail for
Speaker 1: just signing stuff that their husbands to help them to sign.
Speaker 5: You know what do we know? Well, like Teresa did
Speaker 5: you Die?
Speaker 1: I mean like there's a lot of housewives and different
Speaker 1: people who have just signed things trusting and have yeah,
Speaker 1: trusting and I've gone to jail.
Speaker 5: It's scary.
Speaker 4: Janna Catherine Chris and my husband and I have two kids.
Speaker 4: Our kids are sixteen months apart, and right now I
Speaker 4: feel like we are in the trenches. I've always wanted
Speaker 4: a big family and I'm really wanting to have one
Speaker 4: more baby. My husband wants to be done having kids
Speaker 4: and keeps talking about getting a vasectomy. He feels like
Speaker 4: two kids is all he has the capacity for, and
Speaker 4: I keep telling him it's a conversation for a later day,
Speaker 4: hoping he will change his mind one day when we
Speaker 4: aren't in the craziness of a toddler and almost one
Speaker 4: year old. I want to respect his wants for his life,
Speaker 4: but also can't ignore the nagging feeling I have that
Speaker 4: our family is not complete and want and my want
Speaker 4: for one more baby. My question for you is how
Speaker 4: do I convince him to try for another baby? How
Speaker 4: do we move forward in our marriage? Being uncomplete? Different
Speaker 4: pages about this.
Speaker 2: We do not convince anybody, and we just take a
Speaker 2: minute because this was my life. I wanted a third baby.
Speaker 2: I always wanted three or four. Preston was a hard
Speaker 2: stop after two. I mean up until I mean I
Speaker 2: legend was three or four. I think guys three, I mean,
Speaker 2: I just think when you are in the thick of it, yeah,
Speaker 2: you just can't make those kind of decisions. He feels
Speaker 2: probably scared and at Max, and that is fair. But
Speaker 2: I don't think we convince him anything, or ourselves anything.
Speaker 2: We just take a minute and enjoy the season, get
Speaker 2: some breatheable room that.
Speaker 5: Don't do anything drastic in the process.
Speaker 2: That's correct, don't Yeah, Because honestly, like there's a I mean,
Speaker 2: we have a five year gap between our middle and
Speaker 2: our youngest, and if you let planner me take over,
Speaker 2: I would have done them like, you know, back to
Speaker 2: back to back to back. But that just wasn't the plan,
Speaker 2: and a lot had to happen between the middle and
Speaker 2: the youngest marriage wise for us to be a different,
Speaker 2: better couple. I mean, I just think God's timing is
Speaker 2: so special and we just need to take our hands
Speaker 2: off the rains a little bit. I agree with that
Speaker 2: and don't let them give a sectomy.
Speaker 5: Yeah, just just.
Speaker 4: Wait, pause great advice and find a way if it's
Speaker 4: meant to be.
Speaker 2: And enjoy the season. It's madness, but it's amazing.
Speaker 1: Also, I saw on that question, I definitely think that
Speaker 1: it was harder one to two than it is from
Speaker 1: two to three.
Speaker 5: Kids.
Speaker 1: She asked about how what was harder to two.
Speaker 2: Two to three? Hands down, I do not feel that
Speaker 2: way really, even with the gap, especially with the gap.
Speaker 5: Oh, I thought it was.
Speaker 2: I think because I'm like lugging, I have like because
Speaker 2: she just has to do right, Like I feel comfortable
Speaker 2: and my parenting is like more relaxed. But like I
Speaker 2: the the two to three was such a monumental shift
Speaker 2: because it's me trying to help me out those three baby.
Speaker 5: That's fair.
Speaker 2: But again to that point, though everyone's experience is so different.
Speaker 2: That's why you can't interview around. Listen to your heart,
Speaker 2: don't get an internew on that note, see you next
Speaker 2: week and I have a lovely one. Bye.