Speaker 1: Look man, oh I see you? Why why look over there?
Speaker 1: How is that culture? Yes? Goodness lost culture is just
Speaker 1: calling Bowen couldn't let me have one thing and he
Speaker 1: had a threesome this week. You couldn't give me one second.
Speaker 1: You weren't going right into it. Okay, fine, what do
Speaker 1: you mean you could let me? You had a threesome
Speaker 1: last week? I had a threesome last week and it
Speaker 1: was a major news in my life. And then I
Speaker 1: got a text, Oh my god, you'll never guess what
Speaker 1: happened last night. I happenstance. I had a threesome too.
Speaker 1: Don't do this, queen. All right, let's cut this and
Speaker 1: start over. No, we're not gonna do that. Do you
Speaker 1: Are you hurt that I had a No? No, No,
Speaker 1: I was really. It was really just a sort of
Speaker 1: clever way, pithy way of me to sort of talk
Speaker 1: about the threesome because I want to know because you
Speaker 1: did it off grinder. Yes, I don't want to reveal
Speaker 1: the mechanics. Well not, which is not to say that
Speaker 1: that they were mechanics. They did not have threesome, a
Speaker 1: threesome with mechanics or and it'll be fine if you
Speaker 1: did some of them are gay. It's actually culture number
Speaker 1: forty nine mechanics. Some of them are just because in
Speaker 1: film and television you see them often, like presented as
Speaker 1: a straight man, does not mean they are in game mechanics.
Speaker 1: Out there, we see you. Everybody fuck a blue collar
Speaker 1: queer this summer. That's all we're saying, a real working
Speaker 1: class person. If Mayor of East Town has shown us anything,
Speaker 1: you said, you better suck a real working class person.
Speaker 1: There are fucking people out there, even if they're a cop,
Speaker 1: like Mayor right bo Co cops. All mayors are bad,
Speaker 1: including Mayor Round. I did see a bit of feedback
Speaker 1: last week that people thought that we spent too much
Speaker 1: time on my hatred for Ramota Singer and not as
Speaker 1: much time on your threesome. Well, we don't have to return.
Speaker 1: I just simply wanted to say that we should. I
Speaker 1: now share with my sister the threesome experience. Oh but
Speaker 1: I had one moment before, years ago. I didn't know
Speaker 1: about that kind of tragic. I like went to someone
Speaker 1: diet no, no, no, no, no, not that kind of tragic.
Speaker 1: But Shakespeare would say, there's really no other kind. But
Speaker 1: go on. Shakespeare would say that, yeah, he would he
Speaker 1: actually defined tragedy as a death at the end. M hmm. Interesting, Okay,
Speaker 1: I apologize. We don't have to get into the Actually
Speaker 1: I don't don't feel comfortable talking about because you don't
Speaker 1: want to realize, don't I forget? Is that what your
Speaker 1: parents listen? Or just that mixed company listens? Like I
Speaker 1: should treat the pod more as mixed company? Do you
Speaker 1: know what I mean? Some too? Sometimes I don't mean to.
Speaker 1: I think I think what's what's nice is that I
Speaker 1: get to talk about stuff. We both get to talk
Speaker 1: about things without um. We're not playing to the audience
Speaker 1: necessarily all the times. Never never, So that's all I
Speaker 1: want to say. You're patronizing me, Are you start of
Speaker 1: having start of a hangover about I don't think so
Speaker 1: Honey Cocaine. No, I stand by it. I think I
Speaker 1: don't think so Honey Cocaine is one of my better
Speaker 1: I don't have too many great I don't think so
Speaker 1: Honey's stop. It's true. I think that was one of
Speaker 1: my better ones, and I think it was fantastic and
Speaker 1: it was in a serotonin crater that I was able
Speaker 1: to like produce that that text that work, and it should.
Speaker 1: It really should open up a conversation about where do
Speaker 1: I produce the best work from emotionally, And sometimes I
Speaker 1: might mean, you know, on a on a on a
Speaker 1: comedown from a party drug but just kidding, I won't
Speaker 1: do that. I gotta tell you. Um, it's it's your
Speaker 1: reminder to yourself to treat the public. It's mixed company's
Speaker 1: really a reminder to me as well. I was actually
Speaker 1: going to get on here and I was gonna do
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey, wiggly bottoms And now you're well,
Speaker 1: I actually I think why I think you should still
Speaker 1: do this? Okay, because I had an experience on the
Speaker 1: app grind or the other night where I dealt with
Speaker 1: a bottom that was too wiggly, wiggling around like a
Speaker 1: damn worm. And I'm telling you, what are you talking?
Speaker 1: Just wiggly and like the fucking like this Like well,
Speaker 1: first of all, not not, but like imagine, like like
Speaker 1: so famously during sex you're trying to get one thing
Speaker 1: into another oftentimes oftentimes well I mean, if you're centralizing penetration,
Speaker 1: then yeah, oh my god. Sometimes on this podcast I
Speaker 1: have to take a deep breath. Readers, Sometimes on this
Speaker 1: podcast I have to take such a deep breath that
Speaker 1: I cough. Did you ever take such a deep breath
Speaker 1: and inhale an intake of air so sharp that you cough?
Speaker 1: That's how I feel on this podcast. Anyway, I was
Speaker 1: trying to get my dick in thick deck into a
Speaker 1: thick deck, into a beehole, and this bottom was wiggling
Speaker 1: like a damn jumping bees. And and and he was
Speaker 1: He was like, was he trying to be sexy? I
Speaker 1: think it was a mixture of yeah, honestly, and also
Speaker 1: I want the bad and I I gotta tell you,
Speaker 1: I want to get it in there bad. But you
Speaker 1: can't be wiggling around like a wiggle worm. Imagine imagine
Speaker 1: the Code black episode of Grey's Anatomy, and the fucking patient,
Speaker 1: the guy who got the fucking artillery shell and his
Speaker 1: fucking chest and in his in his abdomen was wiggled
Speaker 1: around while Meredith is like, sir, I'm trying to I'm
Speaker 1: trying to see my boyfriend again. It was not ONLI that.
Speaker 1: It was not only ever. Christina Ricci was like, I'm
Speaker 1: just twenty I'm twenty two years old. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: that that's a moment from from this wiggly bottom story
Speaker 1: to Christina Ricci is good only on last culture, only
Speaker 1: on last culture. Did you did you see him? This? This?
Speaker 1: This New York magazine cover? Uh? This this uh that
Speaker 1: came out this week, the return of Filmo and better
Speaker 1: the return of Fomoh. Yes, because I think this week
Speaker 1: and specifically I went to it. I went to a
Speaker 1: park gathering yesterday and it was with a friend of
Speaker 1: the Pods, Stradio Lap co host George Severies Love was
Speaker 1: he looking like a damn stud? He looked great, he
Speaker 1: always does. It was George and his boyfriend who wrote
Speaker 1: the cover story, Matthew Schneyer, and we all like there
Speaker 1: was a low in the conversation. And then all all
Speaker 1: three of us, including and then miche our friend Misha Towns,
Speaker 1: and all four of us were like, where are we
Speaker 1: all hungover right now? Oh? Yeah? And also, um, we
Speaker 1: have been so overstimulated in our social lines this week
Speaker 1: in particular, that we're just like there's nothing to talk about,
Speaker 1: like exactly, it was like it was like there was
Speaker 1: just u there was just such an early, such a
Speaker 1: low ceiling on what to talk about. You're making a face. No,
Speaker 1: I'm actually I'm identifying the face time making is is
Speaker 1: one of recognition, because and that that that isn't that
Speaker 1: is a facial expression. Recognition is a facial expression. And
Speaker 1: it goes like this, do you do you do it? Yeah? Ken?
Speaker 1: Do you mind? Yeah? Yes, queen, queen yes, being slay
Speaker 1: with that face. Thank you, you did it? You did it? Now?
Speaker 1: Can I say? Also? It is, of course famously June
Speaker 1: the Pride month, the month of let's and let the
Speaker 1: readers know, I'm doing air quotes. Pride a k A.
Speaker 1: The month of be a bit to your closest friends
Speaker 1: is upon us. And one of my several of my
Speaker 1: closest friends are being such bitches to me. It's unbelievable.
Speaker 1: And the Pride has month has barely even started, has
Speaker 1: barely Okay, I don't mean to make this about me.
Speaker 1: Have been to you. You have not been a bisition
Speaker 1: to me at all, But guess what, it's because you
Speaker 1: haven't really had much of an opportunity. I'm loath to
Speaker 1: find out what's going to happen when I get to
Speaker 1: New York. I'm loath to find out an expression that
Speaker 1: I sort of know what it is. You're setting up
Speaker 1: a self fulfilling prophecy that I will be a bit
Speaker 1: Are you saying I'm dressed rehearsing that. Are you saying
Speaker 1: I'm dressed rehearsing tragedy? Yeah, well I'm not. I don't
Speaker 1: want I don't Here's what's not gonna happen. Oh tell me,
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I'm first of all. Let me wiggle
Speaker 1: towards your right now, thick deck bow and fuck me
Speaker 1: right now. Here's here's what's not gonna Oh god, here's
Speaker 1: what's not gonna happen. You already, can you take it?
Speaker 1: I you're not gonna set up set set up a
Speaker 1: trap for me to fall into. Where I'm mean to you.
Speaker 1: I'm a bitch to you. I call where I maybe
Speaker 1: even call out some uncouth behavior that you are sort
Speaker 1: of acting out. This is to say that I ever
Speaker 1: behave in an uncouth matter. You're saying I believe in
Speaker 1: untoward manner. No, but I'm saying I don't want on
Speaker 1: the on the off trance, on the edge case that
Speaker 1: you do. I don't want you like that. I can
Speaker 1: I tell you something? Yeah, I am so fucking excited
Speaker 1: that you were coming to New York City for the
Speaker 1: for the first post vacs Pride me in New York.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I can't tell you and I were not.
Speaker 1: It's good vibes only, okay, you fucking bitch. I do
Speaker 1: know I'm the good vibes. I know you. Everyone else
Speaker 1: that's bad vibes. You're right, you're right, you're right, and
Speaker 1: you're right. It seems like lately these days I will
Speaker 1: step into a space good vibes and everyone else's bad vibes,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, can I catch a goddamn break? Can
Speaker 1: I be? Could I be anymore of good vibes? Um,
Speaker 1: speaking of good vibes? Exclamation point? Our guests this I
Speaker 1: this this short eye sound between Shet and seck Deck.
Speaker 1: I think you're leading into this this summer, and I
Speaker 1: really embrace that. Let me say, let let go say something.
Speaker 1: This is a talent. And I met our guests in yes,
Speaker 1: the city of Toronto, Toronto, and uh it was when
Speaker 1: actually I don't think so Honey was being performed in
Speaker 1: Toronto and you Bo and Yang we're famously not at
Speaker 1: that show, because I believe it was at one of
Speaker 1: the during one of the performances of the show Saturday
Speaker 1: Night Live. Now, I was I was the first season
Speaker 1: writer at es sinew and I could not I could
Speaker 1: not make it to that show. But I remember when
Speaker 1: we posted that lineup the comments, I remember this day.
Speaker 1: They were saying, they were saying Celeste, Celeste, Celeste, Celast.
Speaker 1: Often they were exclamation points after the words Celeste. They
Speaker 1: would say Celest, celast exclamation and we're sort of whispering
Speaker 1: because that's an Instagram scream. They were saying Celest. They
Speaker 1: were really clamoring. And I was there hosting the show
Speaker 1: with one Dave Mazzoni, and we walked away from that
Speaker 1: show and we said our favorite was and this is
Speaker 1: this is no shade on everyone, but we left and
Speaker 1: there was a star and that was last. And so
Speaker 1: then I am the opposite of loaths to find out,
Speaker 1: which I sort of that Celeste had moved to New
Speaker 1: York City. Now at the time, I was living there,
Speaker 1: and every single time, I think every single time I
Speaker 1: booked a show, I said, so lest And then I
Speaker 1: take top to a show where you did come to
Speaker 1: my mind, you host a show club Coming, and the
Speaker 1: Celest was one of the was. I was on the lineup,
Speaker 1: and I thought they did an iconic thing, which was
Speaker 1: they did an iconic thing when they walked over to
Speaker 1: the piano and played a single note. I remember, I
Speaker 1: remember this moment, and that was that was Ali main
Speaker 1: vibes down, A star is born. This was a new
Speaker 1: sort of I stumbled upon something you want. I found
Speaker 1: out I had the musical talent as well to sort
Speaker 1: of walk over to the piano plug out a single,
Speaker 1: one perfect note. Because that's the thing about playing one note.
Speaker 1: It's always perfect. That's why you don't play more than one,
Speaker 1: because you know, oh my god, you're so right. You're
Speaker 1: so right. Because if you if you put, if you add, like,
Speaker 1: if you play another note, and that is automatic context,
Speaker 1: it makes it makes the first note make no sense.
Speaker 1: Could sound bad, so bad? And so can you talk
Speaker 1: about what happened with time? With time, they were very celebrated,
Speaker 1: right and then they were hired and as a writer
Speaker 1: on SNL, the only writer on SNL during its COVID season.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, the storied COVID season. There was a
Speaker 1: very few things have been as hard as pulling off
Speaker 1: a season of SNL during COVID. And there's been wars,
Speaker 1: and there's been this season of SNL during COVID, and
Speaker 1: we have with us A survivor, a survivor, and and
Speaker 1: I'm telling you all, when Tom Shales and James and
Speaker 1: Drew Miller come out with their new edition of Life
Speaker 1: from New York and Uncensored Oral History of Saturday Night Live,
Speaker 1: you're you're gonna get a little fucking pull quote from
Speaker 1: Celeste yem our guest being like, yeah, I was crazy,
Speaker 1: Um you know it was it was nuts and then yes, no,
Speaker 1: that's not my impression of them, but I think it'll be.
Speaker 1: They will give off that vibe of being like, um,
Speaker 1: it was cool, it was chill. So this is what's happened.
Speaker 1: Celeste had I think a banner first season at SNL.
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, banner. There they are looking embarrassed,
Speaker 1: but truly worked on some truly, truly, truly fantastic texts,
Speaker 1: we should say, and I think, um, you know is
Speaker 1: going to You're going to really know them. I am thrilled,
Speaker 1: thrilled to welcome to Last Culture and into the ears
Speaker 1: of the readers, into the ears of the incredible stunning.
Speaker 1: The space is filled with beauty because there's towels and
Speaker 1: curtains hanging in a closet space surrounding our guests, so less. Yeah,
Speaker 1: let's talk about how you're feeling, you guys. I am
Speaker 1: pretty excited to learn how much UM that you each
Speaker 1: are deputized to sort of stop mid sentence and say
Speaker 1: we're going to cut this out. And can I say,
Speaker 1: it's usually never this much. But I feel I feel
Speaker 1: that we are in sort of can I and this
Speaker 1: is a compliment to you. We're in a very comfortable place.
Speaker 1: Oh and I feel that no are you no, You're no,
Speaker 1: You're insulted by that. I can no, no, no, to
Speaker 1: peek behind the curtain at this process um to see another.
Speaker 1: Did you hear that? No? I know we're not going
Speaker 1: to stop. Don't do he he perked up as soon
Speaker 1: as you said process. Sorry, was I supposed to do not?
Speaker 1: But now we have to talk about Canadian accents. Don't
Speaker 1: don't like you're not hard as a rock. Want to
Speaker 1: talk about Canada, which I'm sure you both bonded over
Speaker 1: being from quote unquote from Canada. Please, we actually have
Speaker 1: not really like emotionally bonded over. We've only talked about
Speaker 1: Canada in a functional like how do we what do
Speaker 1: we pull from that's can India in order to service
Speaker 1: this piece of writing. Yes, in a requisite way. It's
Speaker 1: been a sterile relationship. It's been a very sterile discourse
Speaker 1: on Canada between the two of us. Would you agree
Speaker 1: it's as needed as needed? It's it's it's it's ad hoc.
Speaker 1: It's an ad hoc discussion of Canada. Should we have this?
Speaker 1: Should we have this conversation? Now? Have it out if
Speaker 1: you please. Okay, So let's tell everyone where you grew
Speaker 1: up and what was Canada like? Well, guess what, I'm
Speaker 1: from Toronto. That was already said. I didn't say you
Speaker 1: were from there. What you said you were? You were
Speaker 1: there at a show. That's true. And can I this
Speaker 1: is controversial, yes, and I actually hesitate to say that
Speaker 1: you should say? And what I actually was not at
Speaker 1: that show? What this is? What happened? Yes, you were
Speaker 1: hold on this what happened down? I'm calm. What happened?
Speaker 1: But I think that you've been too. It is something
Speaker 1: that is appropriate, which is that I helped recommend names
Speaker 1: for that you did. In fact, okay, in fact, I
Speaker 1: think it's something listed on the show poster, because you
Speaker 1: were to do the show. Well, I had just moved
Speaker 1: to New York at the time. This is what happened.
Speaker 1: But then then what didn't happen was that Matt and
Speaker 1: Dave left the show and said our favorite was the last. Okay, no,
Speaker 1: because I've done many other shows with Celeste, and almost
Speaker 1: every single time I leave it, I say they were
Speaker 1: my favorite barn. And you know that's why I remember
Speaker 1: you being such a big part of it is because
Speaker 1: you truly helped program it. Okay, but I have to
Speaker 1: say that in listening to the story, I felt that
Speaker 1: what you were saying was true. It didn't. It did
Speaker 1: not feel like a lie to me, even though I
Speaker 1: intellectually had the knowledge to kind of recall upon that
Speaker 1: I in fact was. I suppose that's true, and I
Speaker 1: guess I should. What I should do is be like
Speaker 1: sorry to say that you were somewhere where you weren't,
Speaker 1: but also I want to say that actually kind of
Speaker 1: rocks that you were the best part of a show.
Speaker 1: You are feeling pretty cool, but I did, Wait, you
Speaker 1: were not. You were not in Toronto at all at
Speaker 1: that time. That's cool cu to me. I had just
Speaker 1: moved to Brooklyn, New York, and I was so upset
Speaker 1: to have missed it. And then I think you guys
Speaker 1: did one like like very soon after that. Yeah, like
Speaker 1: in New York anyway, you know what it was. It was,
Speaker 1: it was this is the this is the oral history
Speaker 1: of Celeste. I don't think so, Honey, asked to do
Speaker 1: the Toronto version, because everyone said when I asked, we
Speaker 1: asked them, we us them. And then I was like, wait, wait,
Speaker 1: who are the top people that I must ask? And
Speaker 1: it was everyone said, this is where we come in
Speaker 1: bowing with the Celeste because everyone was saying Celeste, without
Speaker 1: a doubt, Celeste. There's no one else. And so I
Speaker 1: was like Celeste, and so then I reached out to Celeste.
Speaker 1: Celest says moving to New York, got to do a
Speaker 1: show there, And I think at that point I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: you'll do the one in Brooklyn then, because we're doing
Speaker 1: one imminently when we come back. Then Celeste programs. I
Speaker 1: don't think so, Honey, Toronto. I see. Okay, I'm looking
Speaker 1: through this these these email chains. Oh god, here we go,
Speaker 1: here we go, here we go. No no no, no
Speaker 1: no no no. And Celeste, you provided nine names, unbelievable
Speaker 1: and you said, okay, here we can I actually read
Speaker 1: this ease emails. So Matt Matt, we all sound great. Actually, hey,
Speaker 1: celest Matt Rogerson Bon here on the for the podcast
Speaker 1: A Podcasts Culturestas were giving what's this is Stember three
Speaker 1: two eighteen. We were giving your contact infers from the
Speaker 1: side note boys, and we would love to have you
Speaker 1: join us for a live so that we were doing
Speaker 1: called I don't think Sony a j FL Toronto on
Speaker 1: September twenty nine. The concept of the ship all a lot.
Speaker 1: And then you say, thanks so much for reaching out.
Speaker 1: I love I E. T. S H and Lost Culture Stas.
Speaker 1: I'm so glad you're bringing the show to Toronto. You're
Speaker 1: going to love the audiences and it's going to be
Speaker 1: so mutual. I don't think I'm going to be back
Speaker 1: in Toronto that weekend in porch, but I actually moved
Speaker 1: to Brooklyn in August. I would love to do it
Speaker 1: here sometimes if you have me. Thanks again for us. Okay,
Speaker 1: is this actually getting uncomfortable? I mean for sure? What
Speaker 1: I just think it's very important that we get to
Speaker 1: the bottom of this on on a factual line. Here's
Speaker 1: what's interesting. There were most of the facts were true. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and that is astonishing, and that's like that's what. That's
Speaker 1: what that's what could make it a movie, Like we
Speaker 1: could make a movie of this, and it could be
Speaker 1: based on a true story, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: what happened wasn't that you are a writer and you
Speaker 1: have it or rain and your what's the most compelling
Speaker 1: way of kind of bringing this history to the public.
Speaker 1: And what you came up with was a mostly true,
Speaker 1: extremely exciting and very flattery story about yeah, and it
Speaker 1: was about how you stole the show and our hearts.
Speaker 1: And from then on it was celested every single show
Speaker 1: I ever broke, and we stand out of every single thing.
Speaker 1: Before she was hired as a writer on the show
Speaker 1: Saturday Night Live and had I believe what called what
Speaker 1: bone called a bat and and and this is that's
Speaker 1: and that's heroic but celesque. Can you confirm if you
Speaker 1: did indeed play one single note at club coming before
Speaker 1: launching into a set, I have to be honest, is
Speaker 1: extremely true it because you know who had been sort
Speaker 1: of tickling the keys before that was one of Henry Koperski,
Speaker 1: who plays famously many notes. He plays many notes, sometimes
Speaker 1: all at one, like different notes coming together to really
Speaker 1: create I believe what we call in the popular community,
Speaker 1: and the popular of the community, of the of the
Speaker 1: popular popular, Yes, the populace that would refer to this
Speaker 1: as which means popular music. And so to see Henry
Speaker 1: sort of get up there and sort of work so hard,
Speaker 1: playing all these notes, and then to see Celesque get
Speaker 1: up there, play a single note and steal the show
Speaker 1: to her, and everyone's saying and and and so far
Speaker 1: as music, It's what I always say to Henry, smarter,
Speaker 1: not harder, Henry, Henry absolute pathetic. Okay, So it's Toronto,
Speaker 1: and then it was New York, not spend it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and now it's closet and San Francisco. Can you do
Speaker 1: you want to talk about? This is little California journey
Speaker 1: you're on because I you texted me last night while
Speaker 1: I was stoned out of my mind. I TechEd, I
Speaker 1: texted the last last night. I was like, we were
Speaker 1: just catching up. And then at one point I just go,
Speaker 1: oh my god, I might because it maybe because I'm
Speaker 1: stone but I really do feel I'm watching The Queen's
Speaker 1: Gambit right now because I didn't finish it back in
Speaker 1: the fall, and like, God, what a star. Whatever we're
Speaker 1: talking about. Ana Taylor. We we're talking about a yea yeah,
Speaker 1: we're talking about We're talking me and talking about an
Speaker 1: and and I Matt Ray. This is actually breaking news.
Speaker 1: It's and it's Annie Taylor Joy. There was a moment
Speaker 1: in her monolo that got cut after dress where she
Speaker 1: there was a there was a joke I believe written
Speaker 1: by the genius San Andres, and that was it's Anya. Anya.
Speaker 1: It's like Annie rhythm, which is the best example I
Speaker 1: can come up with, unfortunately, but it's a great it's
Speaker 1: a good demontic. That was her joke. Not to fuck
Speaker 1: you guys have really have to read so much more.
Speaker 1: You have to read that's actually true. Wait, wait, I
Speaker 1: have a question. Were you as taken with Anya as
Speaker 1: Bowen was? Because Bowen actually he doesn't always do this
Speaker 1: um because I feel like he doesn't want to be
Speaker 1: like uncool, but he doesn't. He'll sort of I'll be
Speaker 1: the one that asked like and I'll get a truthful
Speaker 1: answer from my sister. Usually it's like great. Usually everyone's
Speaker 1: everyone's good. He never says bad. He'll either say fine
Speaker 1: or he'll say great. And for Anya, it was got
Speaker 1: to say good vibes lover cool as hell, funny and down.
Speaker 1: Were you as taken with Anya as our our girl?
Speaker 1: Bowen was? I have to be honest it once again
Speaker 1: and go with yes, it's interesting because I do. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's usually not much to report. I would say, really
Speaker 1: there really isn't. Yeah, like just especially if it's like
Speaker 1: a question like you know, are they cool? You know,
Speaker 1: it's like there's usually not there's usually no news. But
Speaker 1: we were obsessed with her, but you and me, But
Speaker 1: you and I and especially you had multiple contexts of
Speaker 1: spending time with her, interacting with her, and then I
Speaker 1: think when you and I shared those those interactions, like
Speaker 1: we would like watch her like on the like at
Speaker 1: village or whatever, we'd be like, oh my gosh, she's
Speaker 1: like she's so good, you know. Yeah, she could really
Speaker 1: like she was really cool, and she could hang like
Speaker 1: she could hang. Yeah. I do want to say those
Speaker 1: celest And I hate to break this to you, but
Speaker 1: I feel like whenever I'm around you, I always am
Speaker 1: trying to be on my coolest behavior. How do you
Speaker 1: How does that make you feel? They have a cool
Speaker 1: sort of magneticism that actually draws It's like cupping where
Speaker 1: sort of draws it out of other people. Certainly a cruise,
Speaker 1: he's a bruise. But it's actually but then like people
Speaker 1: still put it on the Insta stories because they want
Speaker 1: to they want to show. They put on in stories
Speaker 1: that they paid for it. Wow, that they're going in
Speaker 1: that they're going to accute pressure or whatever the hell?
Speaker 1: You know, Matt, I think you're really cool around me.
Speaker 1: I tried, That's what I trying super hard. You've also
Speaker 1: seen me in zones where I'm like, gotta be a
Speaker 1: little cool because I'm like hosting a show or public
Speaker 1: facing facing mats, not like slop industry mat. Yeah, talk
Speaker 1: about this at this California journey. What brought you there?
Speaker 1: Were you seeing everything? How do you feel about California
Speaker 1: in general? Recently they have removed the drudge struck down,
Speaker 1: the assault rifles, assault weapons ban, and brought me here.
Speaker 1: That's what brought you? Well, I'm in SF right now
Speaker 1: and I'm saying in an airbnb not who docks my
Speaker 1: own self, but I in preparation for this recording, I
Speaker 1: did hang what could only be described as dirty cowels
Speaker 1: and sheets around a closet to sort of I don't
Speaker 1: really know. I think I was feeling bad that I
Speaker 1: didn't have an external microphone and sort of had to
Speaker 1: compensate for that in a physical way. And I don't
Speaker 1: mean to bring this this into this discussion. No, no problem.
Speaker 1: But did I not tell you it's no worries if
Speaker 1: you don't have an external mike. You did say that,
Speaker 1: but you also followed up about whether or not I
Speaker 1: hadn't because you didn't answer, and and then, and this
Speaker 1: is what happened, Matt, and the producers of this show
Speaker 1: already throwing under the bus. I just want to point out,
Speaker 1: we're following up with me. They were like, do they
Speaker 1: have mike? And I was like, I'm asking, and I
Speaker 1: will report back when I know. And so then I
Speaker 1: felt the need to double pump and ask you again
Speaker 1: and be like, I'm sorry, let me know, and do
Speaker 1: let me know when you have If you have, it
Speaker 1: might and and to know now that, oh my god,
Speaker 1: this is awful to know that you feel a certain
Speaker 1: way about hanging up all these dirty coats. And Matt
Speaker 1: feels like he's thrown under the best. I can't win.
Speaker 1: I can't I need a w in this life. I mean,
Speaker 1: I you literally were before you were sounding like very
Speaker 1: like sort of hot before when you were sort of
Speaker 1: making my booty wiggle before with the way you were talking.
Speaker 1: And that's for you. The threesome not not every threesome
Speaker 1: a double and that's a real culture, it's real cure
Speaker 1: number seventy, not it's a w um Well, Celeste, any
Speaker 1: threesomes on in in your pastor on the horizon, yeah,
Speaker 1: I have had one. Yeah, tell tell us in detail,
Speaker 1: including names. I really feel that Bowen didn't share enough
Speaker 1: details where I don't feel I don't think completely comfortable.
Speaker 1: You didn't share details about yours. Yeah, you didn't ask
Speaker 1: And by the way, I I followed up with the
Speaker 1: I followed up with people in said threesome who listened
Speaker 1: to the episode, and they said Boone didn't really ask
Speaker 1: a question about it, and I was like, you know,
Speaker 1: he did it. And by the way, they also told
Speaker 1: me they're not having threesomes anymore. So I don't know
Speaker 1: if that's a comment on my abilities and said reason.
Speaker 1: And I did follow up about that. I was like,
Speaker 1: I hope it's because I didn't sunk up. They said, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: we loved you. We just decided it wasn't for us
Speaker 1: for other reasons. And I was like, okay, great, and
Speaker 1: they were like you're the best, we love you. And
Speaker 1: then I was like great, So so just know that's
Speaker 1: how that ended. Wow, And that's me sharing a lot
Speaker 1: of details. And then they're gonna listen to this episode
Speaker 1: and and I'm sure there'll be a conversation about it,
Speaker 1: and they'll they'll probably reassure me and be like, it
Speaker 1: wasn't you. We had a great time, and I just
Speaker 1: want to clarify we did and I did just raising
Speaker 1: my hand. Everyone had a great time. And yet they
Speaker 1: decided never again. Yeah, they've decided never again. I think
Speaker 1: that's okay. I don't think that says anything about I
Speaker 1: honestly don't think it says anything about you, Matt. I
Speaker 1: don't think so either. But I didn't think it was funny.
Speaker 1: I find it interesting that they sort of turned to
Speaker 1: put the blame on Bowen for not asking more questions. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Well it was funny because we we literally
Speaker 1: it was so funny because we brought it. I listened
Speaker 1: to it again and we brought it up. And then
Speaker 1: Boone was like, so the Friends reunion, No, it's because
Speaker 1: you you had already told me about the details. I
Speaker 1: don't one and then one on one. Not every conversation
Speaker 1: needs to be for the readers. You know, you're so
Speaker 1: right because they're mixed company. Mixed company and okay, I mean,
Speaker 1: uh my, my review of this threesome is that it
Speaker 1: seemed like it was fun for all good. But I
Speaker 1: will say I am also a little hung up on
Speaker 1: the fact that they were like, he didn't really ask
Speaker 1: a question. It's like when the three of you were
Speaker 1: naked together, were they were the two of them playing?
Speaker 1: To me, it wasn't like that. It was just I
Speaker 1: think that everyone involved was like and that wasn't me
Speaker 1: was like, huh, like it didn't seem that interesting to Bowen.
Speaker 1: And we should say it's because I told Bowen about
Speaker 1: it beforehand, in fact, pretty much right after it happened,
Speaker 1: because I was excited about it, and was I not
Speaker 1: excited with you. I was. I met you on your
Speaker 1: level and I was like, he even FaceTime to me
Speaker 1: about it with Joshua D. Sharpe. You didn't FaceTime me, yester,
Speaker 1: No you didn't. Okay, Well, first of all, I was
Speaker 1: running all about how look this is about celest review
Speaker 1: review your threesome. Now now, I said, without details. Uh,
Speaker 1: it was good and then bad. That sounds about right,
Speaker 1: you know, and and and in as in a way
Speaker 1: that is general to all three somes, no matter, no
Speaker 1: matter the gender permutations. Yeah, three somes are good and
Speaker 1: then bad. Yeah, yeah, yeah, because ultimately, during a threesome experience,
Speaker 1: you run the risk of sort of two people enjoying
Speaker 1: it more than one other one for sure, just on
Speaker 1: a numbers level. Yeah, the numbers are going to be
Speaker 1: against you can't all three be on the same page.
Speaker 1: And that's why we're all fighting. That's where we're all fighting.
Speaker 1: We're all fighting. I mean, the triangle is never going
Speaker 1: to be equilateral, not even you're lucky if it's Isosceles, bitch,
Speaker 1: because most of the time you're dealing with scaling, okay, equal,
Speaker 1: I don't triangles more like the white rhino extinct. Oh really,
Speaker 1: sorry to bring that up with This is a this
Speaker 1: is a current event, and if we hadn't mentioned the
Speaker 1: white rhinos extension, we would have heard about it. Thoughts
Speaker 1: on the extinction of the white rhinos. Yes, well, I
Speaker 1: would hate for the people you had a threesome with
Speaker 1: two say that I did not say enough about that.
Speaker 1: And that's why. I just want to come up clean
Speaker 1: and say, hey, that's what a shame, right, what a shame?
Speaker 1: I am upset? Yeah, okay, well, now we answered the
Speaker 1: question about the white rhino. Thoughts on the extinction of
Speaker 1: the white rhino, that's what I was talking about. I
Speaker 1: thought you were talking about the threesome. Only positive feelings
Speaker 1: about Matt's threesome. I would love you offline about it FaceTime.
Speaker 1: Thank you your family to me. Now you'd say that
Speaker 1: you would you would categorize your feelings on the extinction
Speaker 1: of the white rhino as angered angry. I said, I
Speaker 1: think upset. I think it's bad. That's my official statement.
Speaker 1: And if anybody listening wants me to say more, I will,
Speaker 1: because I listen to feedback. It is important to me.
Speaker 1: You do you really do? You've taken all feedback and
Speaker 1: you accept it. Do you do you fight for animals?
Speaker 1: Would say that I do fight for animals to be
Speaker 1: happy and for owen to be happy. Thank you not
Speaker 1: to seem cool around me, this is good. We want
Speaker 1: to talk about something. Frank Gillespie is a little bit.
Speaker 1: I think she's retiring a catchphrase that she was using.
Speaker 1: I think now Celeste has has adopted, which is that'll
Speaker 1: be perfect for me. It's some form like if it's good,
Speaker 1: no matter what the contact is, if if it's something
Speaker 1: good or bad, happy and as someone's like we're so sorry,
Speaker 1: like you don't qualify for this credit card, let's say
Speaker 1: that'll be bad for me. Well, sometimes, and this is
Speaker 1: actually just the truth, sometimes someone will think if they
Speaker 1: have a catch phrase, that's theirs, and then someone else
Speaker 1: will come along and sort of take that catchphrase and
Speaker 1: guess what, the glove fits a little snugger on them.
Speaker 1: So you I mean this For example, it's like when
Speaker 1: when Houston came along and saying I will always love you.
Speaker 1: Did she write the song the tune? No, Dolly Parton did.
Speaker 1: But you can't say that that glove doesn't fit a
Speaker 1: little snugger on MS Houston's hand, And so I feel
Speaker 1: this is the same with you. Fran can sort of
Speaker 1: get fucked because it looks like this catchphrase is fitting
Speaker 1: pretty well on you. I want to start. I want
Speaker 1: to start as many conflicts as possible. Yeah, we're here
Speaker 1: because is not abuse, you guys. I was conflict abuse
Speaker 1: you guys, you guys, it was there, you guys in
Speaker 1: there yeah, okay, does not abuse you. Guys. I think
Speaker 1: it's time we asked. So that's the question. Hi time,
Speaker 1: Hi time. So that's what is the culture that made
Speaker 1: you say culture is for me? This is the culture
Speaker 1: that made you and your work, in your life and
Speaker 1: your being move in a cultural direction. Picture young Celeste
Speaker 1: sort of at a crossroads of culture, sort of in
Speaker 1: Toronto doing I don't think where they worthy at the show.
Speaker 1: That's the cross of the crossroads. Talk about the culture
Speaker 1: that founded you for me, And I'm so scared that
Speaker 1: somebody has already said this. It doesn't matter. That's fine
Speaker 1: because because the way that you say it is going
Speaker 1: to be different than them. Yes, it was the first
Speaker 1: um script I ever laid eyes on beautiful. It was
Speaker 1: do no. No one said it, No one said it.
Speaker 1: And actually I really fucking appreciate it, because Matt, I've
Speaker 1: told you and I'm even probably said on the pot
Speaker 1: a million times. I'm like, and there's a reason why
Speaker 1: that is an Oscar winning screenplay. Like that is actually
Speaker 1: because the people who just love to shoot on Juno
Speaker 1: as a movie are like, oh, it's like all like
Speaker 1: the slang that like that, like that, like that, that's
Speaker 1: like the stupid oh you mean the fucking the point
Speaker 1: of view style and point of view and like, yeah,
Speaker 1: just incredible and and Diablo Cody, we love talk talk
Speaker 1: about talk about. Um My mom had seen it, I
Speaker 1: guess at a tiff at the Toronto International Film Festival. Industry. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I've been kind of I was sort of raised by
Speaker 1: the industry, and she had seen it. She told me, like,
Speaker 1: I think you should watch it. If your mom knew
Speaker 1: that you would like it, yeah, like she had recommended
Speaker 1: it to me. And then I guess at the time,
Speaker 1: I had just learned how to like torrent movies, but
Speaker 1: I couldn't find the Torrent for it was what was
Speaker 1: your preferred platform, your preferred software? Lime wire? Yeah, I
Speaker 1: was started reaching high uppit to the family computer, kind
Speaker 1: of clacking away at lime wire. Your mom was like,
Speaker 1: you should find a way to watch this, yes, And
Speaker 1: it was like probably like had just premiered. Like I
Speaker 1: didn't really know how like movie releases work, and so
Speaker 1: I was like trying to tourned it for weeks and um,
Speaker 1: what what year? It was probably like two yeah, two seven, Um,
Speaker 1: and so I couldn't find the clip or like the
Speaker 1: movie itself but I found the script. Oh so you
Speaker 1: read the script like as if it were some sort
Speaker 1: of book. Yes, I read it like over and over again.
Speaker 1: Had you already been into like plays at the summer
Speaker 1: theater like develops and that was wow? Not at all? Yeah,
Speaker 1: m I yeah, we were very much like a movie
Speaker 1: watching Household, But I didn't really it wasn't my personality
Speaker 1: yet to like what to do that got it? So
Speaker 1: then talk about there's no I mean like talk about
Speaker 1: like what you like felt, because I really I really
Speaker 1: loved the Street and actually makes a lot of sense,
Speaker 1: you think, I think? So, yeah, say more about that.
Speaker 1: It's like it is a movie that is like just
Speaker 1: so tightly conceived, and it's about like can we say
Speaker 1: it's I just think it's like I I'm obsessed with
Speaker 1: that movie in a way that like I don't think
Speaker 1: I have not found that other people have, which I
Speaker 1: know is such a gross thing to say. I do
Speaker 1: feel like whenever I bring it up, I have to
Speaker 1: be like I have to qualify in such a way
Speaker 1: that it's like I actually think it's a great movie
Speaker 1: which I hate and I should stop doing I should
Speaker 1: I should do that. Can I say why I think
Speaker 1: that's true. I think the reason why we have to
Speaker 1: qualify liking it is because I think I've said it
Speaker 1: on this podcast before, but that movie came out at
Speaker 1: a time when the apptw comedies were all coming out,
Speaker 1: and it had Michael Sarah. So when I went to
Speaker 1: go see it in high school, I went to go
Speaker 1: see it with all my male friends and they were
Speaker 1: all straight, and I had told them that I was
Speaker 1: really excited to see it because I felt it was
Speaker 1: gonna be I would think I was really excited to
Speaker 1: see it for what it was, and I thought maybe
Speaker 1: it would be like a harder comedy than it was
Speaker 1: and not like a sweet, stylish, cool movie with a
Speaker 1: female protagonist. UM like it like it was, And I
Speaker 1: think that um, my friends got angry with me because
Speaker 1: I had went so hard and wanted to go see
Speaker 1: it and they didn't connect to it. So I think
Speaker 1: that maybe Bowing up at the time, that was a
Speaker 1: similar situation for you, where it's just like but I
Speaker 1: was was we were still closet and when that came out,
Speaker 1: bow totally, but there was just there was something about
Speaker 1: like I just watched it, I rememberthing wow, okay, like
Speaker 1: like Elliott Page is like a star, like put him
Speaker 1: in everything. And then it was just like I was
Speaker 1: thrilled with a one on the Oscar? Why was Vanilliott
Speaker 1: was nominated? I was just like I was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: fuck you did. The people who don't there was just
Speaker 1: this like am I crazy? Hans saying that everyone picks
Speaker 1: on the Hamburger phone? I mean the Hamburger phone is
Speaker 1: is it? Is it like late? But she's a teenager.
Speaker 1: She's a teenager. I think we can say the Hamburger
Speaker 1: phone is is a is a moment in the script
Speaker 1: where it's just like, okay, this is like this character
Speaker 1: has a Hamburger phone, and I can I think some
Speaker 1: people say this is like a twee bridge too far,
Speaker 1: but not me. I'm not one of those people. I
Speaker 1: think phone is lovely. Yeah, I mean it felt like
Speaker 1: I think because of like the like you know, drawn
Speaker 1: kind of style of it. It's sort of it is
Speaker 1: like quirky in this way. But to me it was like, so, um,
Speaker 1: the way it's written is like kind of not as
Speaker 1: a comedy, if that makes sense, And like I think
Speaker 1: that that was like exciting to me, like because I yeah,
Speaker 1: like was always draws more like romantic stories, and like,
Speaker 1: I think what was exciting about it was that, like
Speaker 1: it's sort of like sneakily a comedy. It wasn't trying
Speaker 1: hard to crack you up like all those Apple Town
Speaker 1: movies were. Like, it wasn't like Vince Vaughan improvising at
Speaker 1: us hard for three minutes straight. It was like it
Speaker 1: was right, which I yeah, what do you think? I
Speaker 1: find it very upsetting? Is like here it is the
Speaker 1: laugh is coming. Get ready for it? Yea, exactly exactly,
Speaker 1: And like the movie is like a very surprising story
Speaker 1: in its own way where it's like like I remember
Speaker 1: going in not knowing too much about it, and then
Speaker 1: like the whole Jason Bateman, like the whole story of Juno,
Speaker 1: and like just hanging out with Jason Bateman's character is
Speaker 1: like this is not what I expected. And and then
Speaker 1: it plays out in a very bizarre way. And then
Speaker 1: like I just I think clearly Elliott's the best part,
Speaker 1: but Jennifer Gardner is like the unsung and the movie
Speaker 1: does not work without her that performance In a way,
Speaker 1: does that make sense? Like like like would she like
Speaker 1: that in that first scene when they meet and she's like, um,
Speaker 1: you found us in the Penny Saver like that, like
Speaker 1: like the little moments like that are like kind of
Speaker 1: the keystones to the movie form clearly. And it's like
Speaker 1: a blue collar story and it's you know, it's so
Speaker 1: it's so like active, you know, like it's like this
Speaker 1: like young girl who just like going out and doing
Speaker 1: all these things. And I think that's also why it's
Speaker 1: like it feels like gripping in this way, like you're
Speaker 1: scared for her the whole time. It's like a completely
Speaker 1: dangerous story. Yes, yeah, I also think, um, like it's
Speaker 1: funny we bring up Jennifer Garner and obviously Elliott like
Speaker 1: because they're such a big part of it, Andrewson Bateman
Speaker 1: but even down to the tiny part and Michael Sandoway
Speaker 1: mentioned but so good, Jenny so good. J K. Simmons
Speaker 1: is so good in it. Like you get the sense
Speaker 1: that the entire cast um wanted to be a part
Speaker 1: of it because they read the script and they were like,
Speaker 1: I have to be a part of it. Like it
Speaker 1: really does the'll go back to the script, I think,
Speaker 1: and um so and like yes, like the performances are
Speaker 1: great and I think that you know that one of
Speaker 1: my favorite lines in the movie is when Jennifer Garner
Speaker 1: finds them when they're playing instruments and she goes not
Speaker 1: to interrupt the jam session. But that was an improvised line.
Speaker 1: And um, like, I think that when a script is
Speaker 1: as we said about last week with My Eastown, when
Speaker 1: a script is so specific and you get the opportunity
Speaker 1: to get so specific with the characters, that allows the
Speaker 1: actors to get specific. And that's why all the performances
Speaker 1: are so good, because the script is so good and
Speaker 1: so specific. And I think that it sometimes gets boiled
Speaker 1: down to, oh, that's that script with the Hamburger phone.
Speaker 1: But meanwhile, Hamburger phone is like a funny specific that
Speaker 1: the character says because she has a Hamburger phone, you
Speaker 1: know what? And like, who among us as teenagers didn't
Speaker 1: have some fucking stupid novelty thing in our rooms, Like
Speaker 1: yeah that I don't. I reject that completely. That bullshitting
Speaker 1: on the hammer that actually sucks. Actually, if you're if
Speaker 1: you if you're bothered by the Hamburger phone in Juno
Speaker 1: go to jail, jail before we abolished, it's a it's
Speaker 1: a thinly veiled like complaint. I think about it being
Speaker 1: like a teenage girl speaking, I agree. Just say that
Speaker 1: you hate teenage girls. Yeah, just say that you hate
Speaker 1: teenage girls. Oh you know. You know what other great
Speaker 1: Jennifer Garner moment is in that movie is um towards
Speaker 1: the stands Jennifer Garner like she is bones queen, She's
Speaker 1: my queen. But she like like at the end, like
Speaker 1: like the last scene between that you see between her
Speaker 1: and Jason Bateman were like like they get into the
Speaker 1: fight and then he's just like, I need time, and
Speaker 1: then she's like for what to be a rock star?
Speaker 1: Like I'm like the way she delivers that, I'm like
Speaker 1: Jesus Christ, I remember, like I remember the way it sounds.
Speaker 1: And then oh, and then I think, I'm pretty sure
Speaker 1: this is this is improvised. It must be a presure.
Speaker 1: Must have been Elliott's idea. But when she went, you know,
Speaker 1: like throws the when they get into a find, she
Speaker 1: runs out and she's just like, I listen to your
Speaker 1: Sonic Youth album and it's just noise. Like that is
Speaker 1: such a funny line. I think it's a fantastic movie,
Speaker 1: really really good. I haven't seen it so long, but
Speaker 1: I was just trying to think of and you know,
Speaker 1: like sort of young kind of media awakenings, and that
Speaker 1: was the only one that like I I sneak, you know,
Speaker 1: all of them are like fucking SNL things and whatever.
Speaker 1: That was really the like, I really think that was
Speaker 1: like the beginning. That's good. Let's let's said I was
Speaker 1: thinking of media awakenings. And then they go, hell as
Speaker 1: if that wasn't the premise of this whole fucking show. Yeah,
Speaker 1: actually rude, yeah, pretty much in the huge critic of
Speaker 1: this show and have planted ideas all over the internet
Speaker 1: about why I think it should end up. Yes, you know,
Speaker 1: like it's it's actually interesting, like this was like a
Speaker 1: like a weird triptych of Elliott page performances earlier early
Speaker 1: on that are so fucking good. And I actually think
Speaker 1: that like Juliett Page doesn't really get the credit as
Speaker 1: an actor because hard Candy Juno and sorry, whipp It Bit,
Speaker 1: we have to put respect on whipp It's name because
Speaker 1: it is good. And Drew Barrymore was a great director,
Speaker 1: Kristin Wig was great in it, Marcia Day was great
Speaker 1: in it. Marcia gay Harden was stunning in whip It. Yes, yes, yes,
Speaker 1: I should watch that whip it is good and Juliet
Speaker 1: Lewis also turns out giving one of the most Juliet
Speaker 1: Lewis performances ever. And bring it back to Tiff. I
Speaker 1: think I saw the premiere of that Tiff that would
Speaker 1: make sense you were a Tiff kid, it seems. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm just kind of scene at Tiff. Could you imagine
Speaker 1: going to a film festival as a child, Matt, I can't.
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't have that. I don't have that
Speaker 1: ability to imagine that. Being raised by the industry my life.
Speaker 1: So my life would turned out so much better if
Speaker 1: I truly can't imagine being a child at ten. That
Speaker 1: could go on try to torrent things either. But gen
Speaker 1: Z is in the chat, so you know everyone and
Speaker 1: everyone in gen Z has been to Tiff or tell
Speaker 1: your Ride or any of the big festivals. Yeah, they
Speaker 1: just give them out to gen Z like industry passes. God,
Speaker 1: I can grow up with us, you know. Also, I'm
Speaker 1: also remembering not just a hot back to June, because
Speaker 1: you know who else is favorite movie this is is
Speaker 1: Jared um and so so he had on Shuffle like
Speaker 1: a couple weeks ago, like um And I guess the
Speaker 1: soundtrack to Juno was playing anyone could see with anyone else,
Speaker 1: but that song is so sweet and it ends so sweet.
Speaker 1: I remember, I remember at the time when I was
Speaker 1: like sixteen seventeen watching it. It was ending like that
Speaker 1: and a huge part of me was loving it. And
Speaker 1: all my straight friends are like, song, dude, I were
Speaker 1: listening to this song, Dude, why is Michael Sarah singing? Dude?
Speaker 1: You know that's such a good soundtrack. It's so good.
Speaker 1: Cat Power think of love cap Powers. Yeah, that's that's
Speaker 1: that's that's a great cap Power cover. Did you know
Speaker 1: this was Roger Ebert's number one movie of the year
Speaker 1: two thousand and seven. Really yeah. But also the impact
Speaker 1: of it was like like taking indie movies like seriously yeah,
Speaker 1: and it was a movie about a teenage girl that
Speaker 1: was like that. People were like, hey, this is and
Speaker 1: they never because they never say this. They're never like
Speaker 1: this is good and worthy of a words consideration and like,
Speaker 1: you know, one of the best of the year. It
Speaker 1: feels like if a movie is ever about like teenage girls,
Speaker 1: they kind of like it has to get its credit later,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like people only notice that
Speaker 1: Clueless is a fucking a plus script for all time.
Speaker 1: Years later, people only talk about Mean Girls as a
Speaker 1: prestige comedy script about teen girls. Years later, it felt
Speaker 1: like this was a weird exception to that rule totally,
Speaker 1: but and yet it was still I mean the reason
Speaker 1: where I hate that we're I kind of hate that
Speaker 1: I brought into the discussion that like, oh, people seem
Speaker 1: to really dislike it when that doesn't have to be
Speaker 1: part of the legacy of Juneo. Um, So I'm sorry
Speaker 1: for bringing that into the conversation. As soon as Left
Speaker 1: was like, my thing is Juno, and I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: isn't it so awful that people don't like Except No,
Speaker 1: but I think you're reacting to something that's real, which
Speaker 1: is I mean, there's a lot of things, but I
Speaker 1: think it's a lot of patriarchy. It's a lot of
Speaker 1: patriarchy involved with this movie. That movies about girls get
Speaker 1: like fucking relegated to like some like lower status or something.
Speaker 1: And I think what I'm saying is I'm not surprised
Speaker 1: to hear you say that, Bowen, because I think the
Speaker 1: patriarchy has affected us visa VI this movie more than
Speaker 1: we realize. Because we were at a weird age when
Speaker 1: it came out because we were sort of trying to
Speaker 1: figure it out in that way. Does that make sense?
Speaker 1: It makes total sense. I'm a that Diablo Cody fan
Speaker 1: them because I've never seen Jennifer's body. Oh, Jennifer's Body
Speaker 1: is one of my favorite movies of hers. And we
Speaker 1: have to get Diablo on the pot. I just realized,
Speaker 1: And one and one thing I want to do is
Speaker 1: look her in the eyes and say, Jennifer's body deserved
Speaker 1: more to less. Do you stand Jennifer's body? Yeah, it's good.
Speaker 1: It's so good, except there's one part of it I
Speaker 1: don't like, which is when they have that weird sex scene. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I really watched that movie at like a boy girl
Speaker 1: like party in the basement, and I I was sweating
Speaker 1: so much and my like ass was like touching this
Speaker 1: like boy's ass, and like I just remember feeling warm
Speaker 1: for like many reasons warm. And all I really feel
Speaker 1: is that when I hear Jennifer's body. But Bowen, I
Speaker 1: think you should watch Okay, and can I ask the
Speaker 1: sex scene is gay? It's between Megan Fox, who's great
Speaker 1: in it, and then Mana cypred and basically like it
Speaker 1: feels like it was sort of put in there by
Speaker 1: the That's how I feel is it just feels like
Speaker 1: this had there was no real hint or intimation that
Speaker 1: they'd be interested in doing something like this. It felt
Speaker 1: like something that was a symptom of Megan Fox being
Speaker 1: in the movie, and some dudes that were involved were like, hey,
Speaker 1: we got to put this in there. It kind of
Speaker 1: felt like that. Yeah, and and so I'd be interested
Speaker 1: to ask the question to be honest, Um, But because
Speaker 1: I think the movie is so good and interesting and
Speaker 1: actually scary and funny as ship. And I think that again,
Speaker 1: because it was about teen girls, it didn't get taken
Speaker 1: seriously as like this sort of like conscious pulp. It
Speaker 1: was trying to be like I sometimes feel like like
Speaker 1: boy movies get to be knowingly pulpe, and like quote
Speaker 1: unquote girl movies like don't get to be. Then they're
Speaker 1: like tossed out and like, you know, Jennifer's Body was
Speaker 1: a quote unquote flop, but it was funny and good
Speaker 1: and I don't know which gross like to be gross,
Speaker 1: you know, had that same I think stink on it
Speaker 1: it's a yuck. Yeah, yeah, yeah. She also another another
Speaker 1: movie that Diabolo Cody wrote, which I think is didn't
Speaker 1: get the credit either as young adult so good genius movie.
Speaker 1: Oh that's and that is like as unlikable of a
Speaker 1: protagonist as you can write like that. Yeah, I can't
Speaker 1: remember if some of it or not. It's Charlie's best. Yes, wait,
Speaker 1: and I was thinking of well when you said, I
Speaker 1: was thinking of Tully Yeah, yeah, yeah, and like so
Speaker 1: um again like kind of secretly a comedy. Definitely secretly
Speaker 1: a comedy, but like never trying to be funny, just
Speaker 1: like it's puts the characters in situations that feel so
Speaker 1: real that it's funny. But and it's definitely I mean
Speaker 1: it's it's it's categorized on at least Wikipedia as a
Speaker 1: comedy drama film, but it's it takes a really interesting
Speaker 1: turn and it's again it's Charlie's who's stunning and Mackenzie
Speaker 1: Davis totally. I think that also, like the like just
Speaker 1: kind of thinking more about this influence in my own life.
Speaker 1: I really do feel like often I really don't know
Speaker 1: where it comes from, but like a lot of shame
Speaker 1: about liking comedy and being associated with comedy and like
Speaker 1: wanting to do it and I don't know what it is. Well,
Speaker 1: so let's try and unpack it. Well, do you guys
Speaker 1: feel this way at all? Always? Always No, Matt's lying, No,
Speaker 1: I don't feel guilt about doing this. I will say
Speaker 1: this shame shame I used to be. I used to
Speaker 1: not say I was a comedian because I was. I
Speaker 1: thought that sounded presumptuous and I thought I I still
Speaker 1: to this day have a hard time getting out the
Speaker 1: words like I'm a comedian because I think that that
Speaker 1: means that you think you're funny. And I guess like
Speaker 1: there's something untoward about saying that I am someone who
Speaker 1: who lives their life doing it. So probably I should
Speaker 1: be able to say it. Yeah, yeah, So also, just
Speaker 1: not to editorialize, but yes you do feel shame it
Speaker 1: so but but but but you but you're able to
Speaker 1: say right away that you feel shamed doing it. What
Speaker 1: For For me, it's that working in a place like
Speaker 1: s and Now, where um everyone is able to evaluate
Speaker 1: you on a granular level, whether or not you have
Speaker 1: six you you are funny because what happens, at least
Speaker 1: with s and or with most comedies, it's like the
Speaker 1: it's sink or swim no matter what it's it's like
Speaker 1: either either the audience thinks either one person thinks you're
Speaker 1: funny or or you're that you're not completely almost always
Speaker 1: a binary thing, and then they let you know either way.
Speaker 1: And then the fact that people are so quick to
Speaker 1: evaluate that and then tell me, um, it feels like
Speaker 1: like feels too available. It feels like you're shame has
Speaker 1: to do it completely. It is completely and everyone else no, no, no, no.
Speaker 1: But my shame has to do with like, sorry, my
Speaker 1: shame has to do with people, um being able to
Speaker 1: like m yeah and someone yeah, my shame. My shame
Speaker 1: has to do with people like thinking that they can
Speaker 1: decide for me whether or not I am good at
Speaker 1: this and they can they can't and they don't and
Speaker 1: like I don't. For the most part, it doesn't affect me,
Speaker 1: but sometimes it does. And that's and the shame kind
Speaker 1: of grows from there, from like the thought that like, oh,
Speaker 1: this person doesn't think I'm funny? Do I care? And
Speaker 1: if I if the answer is kind of yes, And
Speaker 1: that's when I start to feel a shame. Yeah, it
Speaker 1: is like a it's like a high risk, high reward
Speaker 1: kind of situation. Always like in trying to make somebody laugh,
Speaker 1: because if you try to be funny and you are
Speaker 1: not funny, then there's nothing that's more degrading than that feeling.
Speaker 1: But if you try to be funny and you make
Speaker 1: a bunch of people laugh, there is truely your God,
Speaker 1: your God, there's no higher feeling than that. I mean,
Speaker 1: this is like, this is like the shitty part of
Speaker 1: working at SNL, which is and like it took me
Speaker 1: a while to realize that everyone feels this. Every person
Speaker 1: at that place has felt this way. Who has ever
Speaker 1: worked there has felt this way. Which is like if
Speaker 1: you like to have a thing go badly at table
Speaker 1: read and then the thought that the thought that you
Speaker 1: end up at the death the terminus is everyone thinks
Speaker 1: I'm a bad person. Everyone here thinks I'm a bad person,
Speaker 1: and they don't like I. They don't like me, and
Speaker 1: they never liked me. It's like that, like that, like
Speaker 1: the shame, like like failure is a seed crystal. Failure
Speaker 1: in like a single moment is a seed crystal that
Speaker 1: blossoms into this like crazy lottict of like oh my god,
Speaker 1: I'm bad, I'm bad. I'm bad. I'm bad. I'm a
Speaker 1: bad person. That's the crazy thing about it too, though,
Speaker 1: is that I feel like that like danger of oh
Speaker 1: is this going to make who someone laugh? Or is
Speaker 1: this going to be the worst mode of my life?
Speaker 1: Is true? Even of even in the lowest circumstances, like
Speaker 1: at a show with seven people, like it feels like
Speaker 1: a life or death. It's high risk, higher ward all
Speaker 1: the time. And I think that feeling is I don't,
Speaker 1: I don't know, like it's it's built in for me,
Speaker 1: Like I never felt proud of like being in pursuit
Speaker 1: of comedy and don't feel particularly proud or like, you know,
Speaker 1: able to be honest about being like in comedy and
Speaker 1: like a comedy writer, like that always feels like hell.
Speaker 1: And I don't And I think it's it's tied to that,
Speaker 1: but I kind of still don't really understand why. Well,
Speaker 1: is it fair for me to say that your success
Speaker 1: has happened quickly? Yeah? So I think that's the email
Speaker 1: read of meling. But three years ago, I don't feel
Speaker 1: you grovel. I think you and wait, this is a thing.
Speaker 1: I feel like, I feel like though this is a thing.
Speaker 1: Though it's like you do feel you feel you're beating
Speaker 1: up yourself completely this is helpful for me and Matt.
Speaker 1: You're saying like you feel shame when you beat up
Speaker 1: on yourself because you don't want me to be your doctor,
Speaker 1: you don't want me to be your lawyer. I can't
Speaker 1: do anything else. What I can do is be a
Speaker 1: clown in the square, like I'm good at that, and
Speaker 1: so are you both to the highest level, celest I,
Speaker 1: this is just I just I guessed them up all
Speaker 1: the fucking time. But I and I think celest should
Speaker 1: be very proud of the scenes you did so well.
Speaker 1: I mean for a first year writer that certainly was
Speaker 1: not not even a story here from the girls, not
Speaker 1: even for a first To take the take for a
Speaker 1: first year writer out of it, it's like, yeah, someone
Speaker 1: who like immediately made connections with people in meaningful ways,
Speaker 1: who who knew how to work well in different environments
Speaker 1: with different people, Like it was just like on inspiring
Speaker 1: and a way that I was just like wow, I
Speaker 1: like all of us were just like this is incredible,
Speaker 1: God bless anyway, Wait talk about this. Let me go
Speaker 1: back to Junior really quickly. Talk about Juno. Was it
Speaker 1: was it a quit? Was it a quick ignition when
Speaker 1: you saw Juno that you're like I want to do
Speaker 1: I want to do this kind of thing where I
Speaker 1: want to write. Well, I think it was reading the
Speaker 1: script and then seeing it and feeling it's like moved
Speaker 1: by this the movie in the way that I felt
Speaker 1: movement the script that made me understand like, Okay, these
Speaker 1: things are connected, something's going on here um And I
Speaker 1: think I like really like connected to that that translation, Yes,
Speaker 1: was there was there was Was there a moment that
Speaker 1: any of you remember where you were first conscious of
Speaker 1: who was writing something that you enjoyed, like like where
Speaker 1: you were paying attention to the credits in a way
Speaker 1: that was meaningful for me. I think that was like,
Speaker 1: and this is such a basic answer, but it was.
Speaker 1: I think it was Mean Girls where I was like
Speaker 1: watching us A Nol so so much and I was
Speaker 1: like just like excited by the fact that tinafe was
Speaker 1: writing this movie and I was just like, oh, she
Speaker 1: wrote this, and it's it's got Lindsay along. It's like
Speaker 1: like all of it appealed to me in a way,
Speaker 1: and then like it was meaningful to me that it
Speaker 1: was like, oh, she wrote this, and she's behind all
Speaker 1: these jokes and the story and the way that like
Speaker 1: things happen and this is all like through one person.
Speaker 1: What about do you remember? For me? It was, um,
Speaker 1: the first time I ever realized that it could be
Speaker 1: a job you could have. Of course I understood that
Speaker 1: people wrote movies and television shows. But the first time
Speaker 1: I ever thought, oh, wait, that's a job I would
Speaker 1: like to do is when I was watching Lost, Like
Speaker 1: I remember there was a scene where there was a
Speaker 1: scene where it was episode six of season one. It
Speaker 1: was called House of the Rising Sun. It was with
Speaker 1: Son and Jim, and I remember there was a scene
Speaker 1: at the end of the episode and it was Son
Speaker 1: was going to leave Jim at the airport and she
Speaker 1: was walking towards the car that she hadn't she had
Speaker 1: arranged to be there, and she turns over her shoulder
Speaker 1: engine Um Daniel Dake Kim, the hottest man in the world,
Speaker 1: lifts up a flower like it's it's like an orchid
Speaker 1: or something like Son's favorite flower. And then young and
Speaker 1: Kim who played Son, turned around and she you can
Speaker 1: see in her eyes she makes the decision to stay.
Speaker 1: And then they get on the plane that they crashed
Speaker 1: on the island Fate. And I was just like and
Speaker 1: that was like a flashback, and I loved the flashback
Speaker 1: device of that first season of the show. And you know,
Speaker 1: it's such a good first season of television, especially for
Speaker 1: someone who's fourteen. Um. But I remember after that episode ended,
Speaker 1: I was like, God, that was so good, and next
Speaker 1: week there's gonna be another one and I'm gonna find
Speaker 1: out more about these characters. And that's when I was like,
Speaker 1: you know, realizing, like and I would like to be
Speaker 1: a part of making that. Like that was one that
Speaker 1: that was when the I was it was everything. It
Speaker 1: was the writing, it was the directing, it was the acting,
Speaker 1: it was the music. And I just remember being like, oh,
Speaker 1: I want to be a part of making television or
Speaker 1: making this this this movie to TV whatever, because I
Speaker 1: now I'm getting it's clicking for me that it can
Speaker 1: be created. For some reason I watched I was like
Speaker 1: that child that watched everything as if it wasn't a vacuum,
Speaker 1: like movies were just this magical thing or whatever, and
Speaker 1: that that was the first show where it clicked for me.
Speaker 1: And I did start to note like who was creating
Speaker 1: television shows? And I would look up interviews with like
Speaker 1: whoever was the creator of the show or the writer
Speaker 1: of particular episode, to the point where when I got
Speaker 1: to college, I was like what I was studying and
Speaker 1: I was particularly looking at like you know who I
Speaker 1: looked up to the most, What about u celst? What
Speaker 1: about lest? For me, it was and you know how
Speaker 1: in in the at the Oscars some years during this
Speaker 1: like Screenwriting Awards, it would be like a clip for
Speaker 1: the movie and the script would be it would be
Speaker 1: like bedroom, she walks in and places hand. I think
Speaker 1: they're extremely morny and I really think are smartly demystify
Speaker 1: the process a little bit of page to stage in
Speaker 1: a way that I found extremely inspiring and like and
Speaker 1: again it's that control. It's that control of like the
Speaker 1: movement from the script to this green It's like, Okay,
Speaker 1: there's something in that like in between it being typed
Speaker 1: out like on your little computer and then seeing it
Speaker 1: physically like materially. Um, it's I think that's really exciting.
Speaker 1: And I find that kind of actually extending at a snow.
Speaker 1: It is kind of you know what I did I
Speaker 1: tell you guys this, either of you. The fact that
Speaker 1: I got Stone and watched pretended to sit in January
Speaker 1: in my bad and then I told myself, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: play her on update and then it happened. I'm like,
Speaker 1: that makes me horny for me, not for myself, but
Speaker 1: just for that process, right of, Like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: it can happen that way. Yeah, And aren't I so
Speaker 1: lucky that I have that available to me? And isn't
Speaker 1: every writer who works and who's working right now, like,
Speaker 1: aren't they so lucky? And like I think it's totally
Speaker 1: there was like, um, when you remember years ago when
Speaker 1: I did that Star Wars sketch for above above Average,
Speaker 1: Like that was the moment where I had that where
Speaker 1: I was like, they will never put me in the
Speaker 1: Star Wars, but I will put myself in a Star
Speaker 1: Wars adjacent sketch where I will get to fight with
Speaker 1: a lightsaber. And it was just and then I got
Speaker 1: and I was watching it and I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: I thought with a lightsaber. The sketch is called we
Speaker 1: Meet Again, and you did that and you wrote that, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was cool that well, that was something I discovered
Speaker 1: like doing sketch in college too. It was like, oh,
Speaker 1: you can do anything you want if you write, yes,
Speaker 1: it's cool, it's horny. It's romantic where you're like, I
Speaker 1: kind of am a little bit curious about that. I
Speaker 1: have like a little idea about that, and then it
Speaker 1: happens like it's like it feels so good. Yeah, oh
Speaker 1: I love this. That is horny. We're all really horny
Speaker 1: right now hearing it about writing. I don't think about
Speaker 1: how the Oscars production steeped into my little child grain
Speaker 1: What do you? What are you? What have you? What
Speaker 1: are you watching or have you watched recently that you're
Speaker 1: like horny for the writing of? Oh shit, Um, all
Speaker 1: I'm watching right now is Top Chefs And which is
Speaker 1: what the writing of? What? Like? Who writes what pads?
Speaker 1: What's what's the writing process? I'm wondering. I think that
Speaker 1: if they don't have a room, they definitely have like
Speaker 1: contributing producers who are like, here's an idea for a bit,
Speaker 1: and then you know what, they probably do have. What
Speaker 1: we had on Hot Dog was we had Neil Casey
Speaker 1: and U and also Nicole Thurman, so they were right,
Speaker 1: they were writing it together. So shows like that do
Speaker 1: have like comedy writers that comp with the funny stuff
Speaker 1: that promises not to say that Podma isn't coming up
Speaker 1: with whiz bangs of her own. Oh she is. She
Speaker 1: is a writer. She writes the show the way that
Speaker 1: she keeps the keeps the show running of You know,
Speaker 1: now let's go to Judge's table. At Judges' table, we
Speaker 1: will be talking like she is. That's plodding, you know,
Speaker 1: the way that you're getting right now, you are a
Speaker 1: pot maholic. I love her and I appreciate what she
Speaker 1: has done for me. She has done it all and
Speaker 1: tastes the nation to in her. In her Hulu docuseries,
Speaker 1: you can tell she is like the guiding hand and
Speaker 1: that especial even I think I think in the writing
Speaker 1: to like a lot of it is very like it's
Speaker 1: like a prose poem that she's narrating, and it's like
Speaker 1: she must have written this in some fashion as a writer.
Speaker 1: I just think that she's so good at what she
Speaker 1: does that it comes out like poetry. It flows well.
Speaker 1: I mean, when she was on this show, she was
Speaker 1: talking about the Book of Spices that she wrote. You know,
Speaker 1: she has every spice in the world and she has
Speaker 1: it's like essentially like a glossary that she wrote of spices.
Speaker 1: And she was like, because because I didn't she mention
Speaker 1: that she has like an experienced power or something, or
Speaker 1: like a super it has like super advanced palate that's
Speaker 1: like genetically gifted in some sense savant for tasting food. Oh.
Speaker 1: That that honestly must be why they have that challenge
Speaker 1: to read every season of like the smelling the of
Speaker 1: the different spices. You know, they blindfold them and they
Speaker 1: give them like, you know, thirty ingredients and you can
Speaker 1: only use the one that you get right, and she
Speaker 1: like you can. You can see the sparkle in her
Speaker 1: eye when they're doing the the little tasks that she
Speaker 1: likes his favorites. Mm hmm. If you're panis favorite, that's huge.
Speaker 1: It's good. It's really good. Are you guys watching. I
Speaker 1: hear this is a good one. I'm not watching, but
Speaker 1: I hear this is a great one. Good. I was
Speaker 1: just talking to Degree about there's like this episode. There's
Speaker 1: this episode where they did like a drive in theater
Speaker 1: because it's all COVID yes um restrictions, and yeah, they
Speaker 1: do an episode where they're like they're like at a
Speaker 1: drive in and the chefs have to make like kind
Speaker 1: of drive in movie friendly snacks and to introduce each
Speaker 1: The competition was to make a food for different genres
Speaker 1: of film and to introduce the genre. Pama does a
Speaker 1: little I'm gonna go ahead and call them sketches. She
Speaker 1: does a sketch free genre, and she is loving it.
Speaker 1: A sketch actress, she haunts. It's wonderful. It's the first
Speaker 1: season that isn't centered on the Caucasian palette, the Western
Speaker 1: or the Western palette. I'm going to start an important season. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's important, as if every Top Chef season was not important.
Speaker 1: It's Portland's right. Yeah. So Gregory's around a bunch. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: he around, cute, Kame is around and he is cool
Speaker 1: and hot. And Melissa Melissa, so all this so all?
Speaker 1: So is this this is the gag? Is that all
Speaker 1: the kind of iconic contestants of yesterdayere are all sort
Speaker 1: of judges now, yes, yes, Kristen is there too, honey. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And I can't. I just want to say, and I
Speaker 1: want to say, readers, read I'm gonna I'm gonna address this, readers.
Speaker 1: I do keep having a moment with my Internet that
Speaker 1: it drops in and out. And this is truly this
Speaker 1: is how you know that just like Top Chef, we
Speaker 1: are COVID too, because and this is like, it's really
Speaker 1: getting me going from my from my I don't think so, honey,
Speaker 1: because I was gonna do it on weekly bottoms. And
Speaker 1: if Spectrum Internet is going to make me do it
Speaker 1: on then now that's going to be the way it is.
Speaker 1: Because the fact of the matter is this is all
Speaker 1: Spectrum's fault because Verizon you don't get this, Verizon files,
Speaker 1: you don't get this drama. Yeah, the people have to
Speaker 1: know where we are at, and it is that we
Speaker 1: are all a little bit stressed about technology. And then
Speaker 1: I do think it's the undercurrent of of this episode.
Speaker 1: And yeah, and still will we rise and rise, Let's
Speaker 1: do a check in, let's do it. Che Bowen, how
Speaker 1: are you? How are you feeling? I feel okay because
Speaker 1: I this is actually a little scary for me because
Speaker 1: I'm staring at my Spectrum router and I'm like, this
Speaker 1: will turn on me someday, very soon, and I'm not
Speaker 1: looking forward to that, and I actually want to. I
Speaker 1: had the worst experience of my life. That was a
Speaker 1: dark day when I had just moved. So I just
Speaker 1: moved into my this apartment on April. Exhausted by that
Speaker 1: day because it was raining outside. It was a terrible
Speaker 1: day to move to the twenty two, I go back
Speaker 1: in to shoot stuff um all day, and then the
Speaker 1: twenty three I had to go and make sure my
Speaker 1: my wife I was set up in my house because
Speaker 1: I did do a bunch of stuff in my house,
Speaker 1: and then went to the Spectrum place. Sat there for
Speaker 1: an hour and a half because no one because the
Speaker 1: people who there was two people working and they were
Speaker 1: none of them knew what they were doing. And it
Speaker 1: was just like it was like not their fault. It
Speaker 1: was just like Spectrum as a company is bad and
Speaker 1: does not set their does not set their employees up
Speaker 1: to do their jobs well. And so it's like I
Speaker 1: just I think Spectrum as a company is um as
Speaker 1: pernicious as they come. It's as Peter I was gonna say,
Speaker 1: as pernicious as they come. I literally was. And also
Speaker 1: I want to say something, and I want to I
Speaker 1: want to sort of just cut through because celest Us
Speaker 1: bo and how he's feeling, and so I'm just gonna
Speaker 1: offer how I'm feeling. No, I was gonna go to
Speaker 1: you next, Matt, how are you feeling? I could tell
Speaker 1: I know what it's like to be on a zoom
Speaker 1: and one person is having the technical issues, and I
Speaker 1: know that, regardless of the fact that it has nothing
Speaker 1: to do with me as a person, that people on
Speaker 1: the zoom feel irritated with that person, and I know
Speaker 1: it makes me upset. It makes me upset because I
Speaker 1: don't want to be the person bringing tension to the zoom.
Speaker 1: But I know that this constant like give and take
Speaker 1: of my internet is I can hear in Bowen's voice
Speaker 1: driving him crazy. It just takes me out of It
Speaker 1: takes me out of this conversational sort of cadence that
Speaker 1: we have. I know, and I have nothing to do
Speaker 1: with that. We've had to feel so many things. No,
Speaker 1: it's okay. We've all been everybody has been that person,
Speaker 1: and in fact, I think it was me at the beginning.
Speaker 1: Remember a guy no, no, no, no, you remember even
Speaker 1: a shining example of excellence in this podcast episode when
Speaker 1: you need to check in with's the last How are
Speaker 1: you feeling? How are you feeling good? I'm feeling good
Speaker 1: because it was me in the beginning, and that's okay.
Speaker 1: And you don't have to protect me anymore. I am strong.
Speaker 1: I just want to protect you because you're coming up
Speaker 1: in comedy, and the rise has been meteoric, and I
Speaker 1: just I see the wolves bone and I know about
Speaker 1: the wolves. The wolves are out to hunt. I don't
Speaker 1: want the wolves to sort of come for you. And
Speaker 1: so that's why, that's why I feel very protective of
Speaker 1: because you're someone that I immediately I saw I saw
Speaker 1: on that stage Toronto, and I knew. I knew from
Speaker 1: then on. I was like, that's my baby, and the
Speaker 1: wolves better not take Maybe if the wolves took my baby,
Speaker 1: I'd be so upset. I'd be like Meryl Streep in
Speaker 1: that movie What movie to Cry in the Dark Never
Speaker 1: the Dingle at her baby and they were like, no,
Speaker 1: you killed the baby, and she was like, I swear
Speaker 1: to you, I swear to God the dingle ate my baby.
Speaker 1: And there's a famous scene where she says the dingo
Speaker 1: ate my baby. And can you imagine just reading that
Speaker 1: script and being like, yeah, let me let me do this,
Speaker 1: and then not only doing it, but earning an OSCAR nomination.
Speaker 1: I can't. And I know you. I think you're so talented.
Speaker 1: I don't think your Meryl Streep. Thank you, Oh my god,
Speaker 1: and thank you. And that shows me that you respect
Speaker 1: me to hear that the same. It's so cutting and
Speaker 1: so true. I think not even cunning is just respectful
Speaker 1: to say the truth. I think that you are still last.
Speaker 1: Mery is Meryl. There we go, there we go, there
Speaker 1: we go, there it is. I think it's time to
Speaker 1: move on. I don't think it's on it. I think
Speaker 1: it's time to move on that. I don't think so. Honey, Yeah,
Speaker 1: we can tell when Bowen has had it. This is
Speaker 1: what's going on, is that these two people are on
Speaker 1: the usually how it is is these no no, no
Speaker 1: right now is so I'm so tired because guess what,
Speaker 1: it's three hours later here. So let's get I checked
Speaker 1: in yesterday. We're both still in the sort of energy
Speaker 1: upswing of the SNL postseason. I'm still I'm still recover.
Speaker 1: I'm still like downloading myself again. Does that make sense? Reboot,
Speaker 1: rebooting the hardware? Yes, and trust me, I went to
Speaker 1: Disneyland yesterday. Did you have to understand I am actually
Speaker 1: I know what I don't think Sonny is. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: oh my god, it just clicked. Sorry, but I just
Speaker 1: wanted to say that, like I'm I'm not tired, I'm
Speaker 1: just like a little like you it's it's it's yes,
Speaker 1: it's it's like that thing of the season ended and
Speaker 1: you said, great, now I can relax. And the mistake
Speaker 1: you probably made was by relaxing, you meant hang out
Speaker 1: with friends, socialized download but that is energy expense. Yes,
Speaker 1: it's hard. I am so tired. Every conversation is uphill
Speaker 1: for me. When will you be back in New York
Speaker 1: this last soon in a week. I'll see you every
Speaker 1: day when I get my when I see you there,
Speaker 1: I'll see every day. Yes, I don't really let him
Speaker 1: relax because even when we're just hanging out, just the
Speaker 1: two of us, it's sort of Bowen sitting down in
Speaker 1: me like kind of sort of like bouncing around the apartment.
Speaker 1: He knows it's true. Look at him, smile. It's it's,
Speaker 1: it's it's it's it's Golden Retriever and like cat and
Speaker 1: let's the best pair. I would that you know who
Speaker 1: else would love sude? Let's do that super from eighty
Speaker 1: and I like it. Eight eight. I do feel like
Speaker 1: Celeste is like in the family, you know, welcome. But
Speaker 1: I mean this in the way that like I sometimes
Speaker 1: I'm just witnessing student Celeste have little moments like where
Speaker 1: I don't figure into it at all, where I'm like,
Speaker 1: that's that's beautiful. Come here to let us care for you.
Speaker 1: Welcome to the family. So that's beautiful. Okay, this is
Speaker 1: I don't think it's really nice. This is I don't
Speaker 1: think so, honey. This is where we take one on
Speaker 1: something in culture. We're moving on to that friend of
Speaker 1: the show, Padma, Bone's gonna I don't think, honey, Padma. No,
Speaker 1: we're gonna play it for her. No, we literally do
Speaker 1: think so, Podma so hard. We love Padma. We do
Speaker 1: think so, honey, pad This is um, I know Matt
Speaker 1: has a topic prepared. Yeah, I do. Okay, this is
Speaker 1: Matt Rodgers is I don't think so, honey. Disneyland kind
Speaker 1: of moved you in any direction it see, Okay, this
Speaker 1: is Matt Rodgers. I don't think so, honey. As time
Speaker 1: starts now, I don't think so honey. The Avenger's Campus
Speaker 1: at Disneyland, California, it opened last weekend. I went, how
Speaker 1: come you have to get on a five hour wait
Speaker 1: to get into this damn thing to even get into
Speaker 1: the land, And then when you get into the land,
Speaker 1: which I didn't all they have is a Spider Man
Speaker 1: Webb Slingers attraction, which is basically you shoot webbs at
Speaker 1: a screen, which is again a video game, not a ride.
Speaker 1: I don't so, honey. These major theme park attractions that
Speaker 1: are video games not rides, I don't think so, honey. Also,
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey. I in order to even
Speaker 1: get on the web Slingers you have to wake up
Speaker 1: at sixty nine am to get on at seven am
Speaker 1: on the app, and you have to within fifteen seconds
Speaker 1: make yourself reservation for the ride. And if you don't
Speaker 1: get it, well, honey, your s o l for the
Speaker 1: rest of the day. I don't think so, honey. I
Speaker 1: did watch from the outside Spider Man Leap in the Air.
Speaker 1: That was cute. But you can't even get on Guardians
Speaker 1: of the Galaxy Mission break Out without getting into Avengels campus.
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey. That. I don't think so honey,
Speaker 1: the whole thing. It's too complicated. One no, and that's
Speaker 1: one minute. I am so sorry to hear about this,
Speaker 1: and that's why I'm going again tomorrow. Nat hold On.
Speaker 1: We need to sort of start the revolution and say
Speaker 1: no to reservation culture too. Like between hearing about Vendor's
Speaker 1: campus and about you haven't wake up and get in
Speaker 1: a five hour release, and then this is what Rise
Speaker 1: of the Resistance was and what I will say. I
Speaker 1: did do right to the Resistance the other day and
Speaker 1: it was stunning and resistance it ties together and Boone Yang,
Speaker 1: I'm excited to get you on it. Okay, great, But
Speaker 1: I'm just saying between that, between like fucking all these
Speaker 1: Pride events tickets being like kind of whipped up within
Speaker 1: twenty seconds, Fucking Coachella, I'm seeing my friends to try
Speaker 1: to get coach tickets. I'm like, guys, there must be wineries.
Speaker 1: We talked about on this very podcast, the concept of
Speaker 1: debasing yourself, humiliating yourself in order to get into a
Speaker 1: thing that will know that will almost never live up
Speaker 1: to the to the fantasy. The experience of it will
Speaker 1: never live up to the fantasy. Is is suffering is
Speaker 1: pure pathology. It's like it's it's it's it's actually something
Speaker 1: that humans should try to pull away from. I we
Speaker 1: should avoid this. I just can't tell you how demoralizing
Speaker 1: it is too, because it's just by design, it's meant
Speaker 1: to make you want to go even that's where you're
Speaker 1: going back again tomorrow. I have I have no reference
Speaker 1: for what all you were talking about. So let me
Speaker 1: ask you a question. If you were to buy tickets
Speaker 1: to an amusement park, what would you expect? You go
Speaker 1: in and if you want to get on a ride,
Speaker 1: you get online for that? Right? Yeah, that's not how
Speaker 1: it works. You have to imagine it was two hours
Speaker 1: before you get there. You have to download an app
Speaker 1: and within ten seconds of the of the minute it opens,
Speaker 1: you have to log on to get on make a
Speaker 1: reservation for that ride. And if you don't, your s
Speaker 1: O L should out of luck, ship out of you mean,
Speaker 1: I'm in sensed, I am, I mean sensed. I just
Speaker 1: think we gotta we gotta do this. We just gotta
Speaker 1: not do this. We gotta notorize no, this is no.
Speaker 1: Then this is the thing, this is the thing. We
Speaker 1: have to take back control as the consumer. We will
Speaker 1: not be consumed. Matt. You will not go to Disneyland. You,
Speaker 1: I mean you, I assume you're you're going there, but
Speaker 1: I don't want as soon as you set foot on
Speaker 1: the grounds, you understand that you are a consumer. And
Speaker 1: I've always known that, but they just make it so
Speaker 1: obvious now that it's like we don't really care, right,
Speaker 1: And that is the kind of that is the kind
Speaker 1: of like just oh, that that that inhuman, that apathetic
Speaker 1: quality to like the to like that kind of thing
Speaker 1: to everything to like from Like, I don't know why
Speaker 1: I keep thinking about Coachella, but I was just talking
Speaker 1: to someone about it and they were like stressed out
Speaker 1: about Coachelitch because I was like, I'm so sorry, but
Speaker 1: you don't have to worry about that, like like there's
Speaker 1: a there's a world in which you don't care, which
Speaker 1: I know is like oversimplifying if it's like there's a
Speaker 1: world in which you don't have to go you know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So I thought like that the kind of the whole thing,
Speaker 1: the whole kind of gift of you know, selling ourselves
Speaker 1: and dignity to fucking like Disney was like being taken
Speaker 1: care of and knowing that it was based by being
Speaker 1: taken care of. Anyways, It's like, at the very least
Speaker 1: I want to dis pretend fake it. Yes, I thought
Speaker 1: this experience years ago when we went and Rise of
Speaker 1: the Resistance was like fully unhinged and I was like, uhis,
Speaker 1: I was like, this is actually not good for anyone
Speaker 1: like I don't understand why this is part like that,
Speaker 1: it's just not well. And then you know what, they
Speaker 1: also have the goal to be like in the promotion
Speaker 1: of it all, be like this is I can't miss.
Speaker 1: If you miss this, you'll be talking about how bad
Speaker 1: you feel for decades if you missed this after you
Speaker 1: paid up your ass to come here. You are your
Speaker 1: ship of girls. Girls. All right, that was beautiful, Thank you, Matt.
Speaker 1: I just and you know, I don't like to be
Speaker 1: mad at my girls. The Disney Corporation. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't think that was I don't think Sonny says Celeste,
Speaker 1: who by the way, Celeste will read you down. That
Speaker 1: is another thing about Celeste. They will read you down
Speaker 1: and they will not even and it'll be a thing
Speaker 1: of like it happens, and then you'll walk away and
Speaker 1: be like I just got read down. M m hmm.
Speaker 1: You know, oh my god, you go, oh my, they
Speaker 1: just rend me down. They just read me. I am
Speaker 1: having a little bit of like somebody I'm visiting kind
Speaker 1: of old friends, like college friends, and a few of
Speaker 1: my New York friends are in town, and I think
Speaker 1: that they have sort of like in the past couple
Speaker 1: of days, like understood why as I'm like constentally roasting
Speaker 1: like you are. You are why my friends from Toronto
Speaker 1: are like almost as sport like constantly, constantly, just like
Speaker 1: if you speak, you are a fucking idiot. You are
Speaker 1: raised in a rough environment. Yes, if you are not roasting,
Speaker 1: if your mouth is closed, you're getting stomped on. You
Speaker 1: sort of have to be keeping up with the rhythm.
Speaker 1: It's the balls of the air. You you made me
Speaker 1: like that, Yeah, because since I since I met you
Speaker 1: in Toronto, when you stormed the stage and stole the show,
Speaker 1: you started bullying me. And this is also something I
Speaker 1: remember as you started bullying me, and so you bullied
Speaker 1: me ever since and now I and now I'm like
Speaker 1: I have this I never had, oh my god. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and it causes you to be industry matted. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: kind of think that that's my influence. Yea, most people
Speaker 1: know me. It's sort of a mean that's good. You
Speaker 1: know who's there? Who else is the mean person? Who
Speaker 1: city green, cruelty bitch I have ever met. One of
Speaker 1: the first things, one of the one of the earliest
Speaker 1: things I remember her saying is that she loved mad men.
Speaker 1: Because mad Men quote understands that human life is suffering.
Speaker 1: End quote. She was nineteen. She said, this show understands
Speaker 1: that human life is suffering. She was nineteen years old.
Speaker 1: Her whole life was ahead of her. She said that.
Speaker 1: She also I showed her at the show X Factor
Speaker 1: and she said, look how many pepsi cans there are?
Speaker 1: Look how there's so many pepsi cans and they pan
Speaker 1: up this girl's body and I was like, God, this
Speaker 1: girl is so she's so jaded and smart. She's gonna
Speaker 1: be mad that I'm revealing this. But at one point
Speaker 1: she wrote a game show sketch for for read through,
Speaker 1: and the thing was like a game show sketch about
Speaker 1: like bachelorette parties, and then there was just one specific joke.
Speaker 1: I forget what the context was, but it was like, um,
Speaker 1: do you like do something blah blah blah with your
Speaker 1: with the bachelorette, with it with the bridal party where
Speaker 1: three of them are like full on fucking nobody are
Speaker 1: full on nothing, No, three full nothings in the bridal party.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, oh my god. There was and a
Speaker 1: view parody that went, but this joke was cut because
Speaker 1: I believe. Lauren said it was too it was to
Speaker 1: me and and he was right in that in that
Speaker 1: instance because it was actually very mud. There is an
Speaker 1: endless it's infinite with her, like she'll she'll just be speaking,
Speaker 1: She'll just say something like yeah, she's a bento. Box mom.
Speaker 1: Aki doesn't work. Just I'm like, flo, are you talking?
Speaker 1: It's knives and every direction doesn't work. Okay, it doesn't work.
Speaker 1: No one is box mom mom. Should we return soon?
Speaker 1: We're doing an in person episode with Sutti Green it is.
Speaker 1: You have to be scheduled, but it will be summer
Speaker 1: of count for summer, and it will be a wonderful
Speaker 1: episode upcoming. Everyone's eagerly awaiting the return of Sutti. But
Speaker 1: for now we will have Bowen Yanks. I don't think so, honey, Boonen,
Speaker 1: have you sort of marinated and decided on the topic
Speaker 1: as a result, he said, marination? Yes, yes, I've decided
Speaker 1: marination alright, this is boe. I don't think so, honey.
Speaker 1: A time starts now. I don't think so, honey. Sun Sets,
Speaker 1: why are you giving us consistency in the color palette,
Speaker 1: you fucking bitch. We know what the what colors work.
Speaker 1: It's blues, it's violets, it's pigs. Don't experiment, don't give
Speaker 1: us do different eras and do like grays and blues.
Speaker 1: The there's a universally agreed upon color palette for sunsets
Speaker 1: that works. And the cloud I don't care that it's
Speaker 1: the clouds. I don't care that it depends on like
Speaker 1: the tilt of the earth or the seasonality of the sunset.
Speaker 1: Give us the same colors every single night, every crepa skull. No,
Speaker 1: that's that's that's the dawn, every twilight. Give us the
Speaker 1: same colors. Otherwise I don't want to see it. I
Speaker 1: want you to be someone who who does the work
Speaker 1: and does it predictably. I don't. I think predictability is underrated.
Speaker 1: It's oh I I wasn't bring Jennifer Gardner into this,
Speaker 1: but you have to give us something consistent sunset that's
Speaker 1: one minute, um wow, So you you you I have
Speaker 1: a problem with sunsets, which are true verse sunsets. Canna
Speaker 1: give you all sorts of different story and which one
Speaker 1: would you hear about? The most blue violet paint? So
Speaker 1: sort of like a fire island, No, not even fire
Speaker 1: is You don't want to Fire Island sunset sun Fireland sets.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be blue is Olympic. I want orange. I
Speaker 1: don't want orange. I don't want warm tones. I don't
Speaker 1: want warm tones. Horrible and guess what? Uh not for
Speaker 1: nothing but Lion King found dead? Yes, Minkoff found dead,
Speaker 1: Rob rob a husband of crystals, our new favorite Housewives
Speaker 1: of Beverly Hills cast member, Oh my God, found dead,
Speaker 1: Shirley Temples found dead. Duck is controversial. I feel very
Speaker 1: much it's literally colorist. I don't care. Yes, I don't care.
Speaker 1: Your color isn't I'm gonna know. I don't think so, honey, excusely.
Speaker 1: I believe the lyrics are have you ever the Wolf
Speaker 1: Karai to the Blue con Moon? What's the part about
Speaker 1: sunset and that song? Um? I don't think there's a
Speaker 1: part about sunset. And that's a shame. It feels like
Speaker 1: I've got opportunity to mention sunsets and colors. Maybe it's
Speaker 1: just because it's called colors of the wind, colors of
Speaker 1: the wind. Okay, the majority of the colors of the
Speaker 1: sound dead, I said, Stephen Short, so found dead colors
Speaker 1: are the wind? Bone said, more like two colors of it.
Speaker 1: I'm finding it hard to even you know, find said
Speaker 1: there's nothing. He didn't have one, and I thought of that.
Speaker 1: But still telling this. We'll get it. We'll get this week,
Speaker 1: I said, I said, this week, I will come prepared
Speaker 1: with a topic. And I thought it came to me.
Speaker 1: It's immaculate. The conception. I thought, it'll be sunsets, it
Speaker 1: will be be consistent. Give us consistency, give us the
Speaker 1: same color story. I don't want to see different colors
Speaker 1: the sun that looks the same every night. Yes, yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: And it's like an arctic it's like an arctic something.
Speaker 1: You guys are you guys are acting like I'm crazy,
Speaker 1: and I don't appreciate you guys are acting like I'm crazy. Crazy.
Speaker 1: Well that's our Maybe people act act like you're crazy
Speaker 1: around you because you're crazy. Some things are some things.
Speaker 1: It's not scible sophomore thing to say. I'm I don't
Speaker 1: want to do this. If you want to do this,
Speaker 1: you are s O L shit out of luck sweetiel
Speaker 1: parentheses ship out of luck. A good title for the Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: is it good? I love it? Well, it's really good.
Speaker 1: What's a good title for what's about to happen is
Speaker 1: Celeste Gims. I don't think so, honey. Okay, wait, I
Speaker 1: really could have prepared. I can't believe I've been in
Speaker 1: the towels, towels more content time. Alright, so Celeste, who
Speaker 1: is now? I don't think so, honey, royalty, because this
Speaker 1: is of course not the first of the second, the
Speaker 1: third canonical time Celeste has done. I don't think, so honey.
Speaker 1: Here we go, this is celestiums. I don't think so, honey,
Speaker 1: And their time starts now. I don't think so honey,
Speaker 1: seasonal allergies. You need to leave me and my loved
Speaker 1: ones alone. I am thing. I'm pausing my nose. I
Speaker 1: and you win when I lose, and it is pathetic.
Speaker 1: When the weather gets nice, it means that I get happy,
Speaker 1: and you see that, and you don't like that, and
Speaker 1: you punished me for that. Okay. You made me and
Speaker 1: Bowen cough around our friends because and because there's a
Speaker 1: different reason that people are coming right now. Are coughing
Speaker 1: scared them? Okay, and you are scary and they're sad.
Speaker 1: Um The medicine that I have to take just to
Speaker 1: keep your bullshit at bay, because me to have other
Speaker 1: symptoms of other illnesses. My neigg was right. It gives
Speaker 1: me no I took an a leego before going on
Speaker 1: a date and was so drowsy that I felt like
Speaker 1: I was in a dream trying to run and I
Speaker 1: had to leave abruptly. And now she thinks I'm weird.
Speaker 1: You are doing illness drag and you're doing it poorly.
Speaker 1: My love, you wish you were a contagious illness, but
Speaker 1: you never will be funny. Your seasonal and you're temporary
Speaker 1: and as soon as the flowers I you'll be gone
Speaker 1: to Okay, get a life. Oh my god, wow, that
Speaker 1: you really ca allergies. Found dead. I'm sick of it.
Speaker 1: So lust and I were in the Hampton's. I had
Speaker 1: you had. I have never had that much eggs am
Speaker 1: in my life because of my allergies. We were coughing
Speaker 1: all week and people were genuinely scared. They were upset.
Speaker 1: I don't like it when when people are bodily around
Speaker 1: me at all. It was but we were coughing for
Speaker 1: a long time. It was something that not even a
Speaker 1: Claton or a Floonees could deal with. That was the
Speaker 1: best case scenario. We were drilled up. Can I confess something.
Speaker 1: So last one night, in the middle of the night,
Speaker 1: you did wake me up because you were coughing a lot,
Speaker 1: and I thought, are they okay? Okay? Should I go
Speaker 1: check on them? And there was no, no, No, this
Speaker 1: is not humiliating. Well, a few things are happening here.
Speaker 1: I'm humiliating. So last I am um sendering myself up
Speaker 1: as someone who could have done something and chose to
Speaker 1: stay silent and chose to stay. I'm comfortable, comfortable, silent
Speaker 1: and comfortable in the Hampton. And I apologize to lust
Speaker 1: and I apologize, Thank you, I forgive you. I don't
Speaker 1: know why I had to tell that story, but I do.
Speaker 1: There was a night where I thought, am I going
Speaker 1: to have to take them to the hospital? Was yeah,
Speaker 1: Well it was like a situation. I was like opening
Speaker 1: the window to get fresh air in these lungs breathing.
Speaker 1: I truly was slut of black. Yeah at that time,
Speaker 1: I just I don't know, but this is this day,
Speaker 1: this day, this day didn't go well. Well, I acted
Speaker 1: really weird and you should tell her that it was
Speaker 1: the allergies. If you're still interested, No, you're right. It's
Speaker 1: just kind of situation where it's running my life. I
Speaker 1: actually am interested, and I do worry that she will
Speaker 1: go ahead and be listening. We can cut the sound.
Speaker 1: It's not like that. This isn't an extremely vulnerable and
Speaker 1: raw episode. Yeah, I agree. I think that it's best
Speaker 1: if we leave it that way. What do you guys
Speaker 1: think I think we should we should leave it. I
Speaker 1: think we should leave it exactly as is, no edits.
Speaker 1: I offer up the option to edit. Well. Matt embraces
Speaker 1: often embrace, but not really um. But on this episode,
Speaker 1: we were raw, we were real. Yes, we went there,
Speaker 1: we went off. We were I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Gosh.
Speaker 1: I see if I were sleeping, you know what that
Speaker 1: would have done. Can I ask you a question, would
Speaker 1: you have helped a hacking Bowen? I definitely. I think
Speaker 1: I would have texted yeah, Tted, I think that. Honestly,
Speaker 1: I was about to go. I was about to go
Speaker 1: over to you in the middle of the night and
Speaker 1: be like, be okay, like let's let's go so sweet
Speaker 1: you would have were you were going to offer to
Speaker 1: leave the house, I would have been I would offer
Speaker 1: for us to drive, to drive somewhere, to go somewhere.
Speaker 1: He would he was going to take you out back
Speaker 1: to shoot you. Yeah, that's what it sounds like. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he was gonna kill that's the impression I'm getting. This
Speaker 1: was a pleasure. This is a true pleasure, and you know,
Speaker 1: we would like you to come back. One of the
Speaker 1: loves of my life because the second you stole the
Speaker 1: show at the Toronto, I don't think so high. It
Speaker 1: was a true moment in time. I will say that
Speaker 1: moving to New York, I felt that it was possible
Speaker 1: to be there knowing that you guys were there. I
Speaker 1: have long look up to you. I appreciate you both
Speaker 1: so much. You really both have stuck your next out
Speaker 1: for me. You freak for the chopping on the chopping
Speaker 1: block to be cleaved like chicken bone to protect me,
Speaker 1: and I appreciate I love you both very very much. Well,
Speaker 1: this was a fun freesome and it was hot and
Speaker 1: steamy and sexy. It was um and then it eventually
Speaker 1: got Our butts were all sweaty and hot together, just
Speaker 1: like it was when you were young and in that
Speaker 1: sort of environment. Jennifer's bodies for me. And if you
Speaker 1: the reader aren't wiggling your bottoms out, then guess what
Speaker 1: your s oh owt of luck? We finished with a
Speaker 1: song and don't see what anyone can see. But for
Speaker 1: more of that song, listen to the Juno soundtrack and
Speaker 1: as the song was written by Michael Sarah and Elliott Page.
Speaker 1: Was that I think I wrote it? Oh no, that
Speaker 1: was That was all the futures. I'm sorry by