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Speaker 1: like she was really cool, and she could hang like

423
00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:38,560
Speaker 1: she could hang. Yeah. I do want to say those

424
00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:40,960
Speaker 1: celest And I hate to break this to you, but

425
00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:43,520
Speaker 1: I feel like whenever I'm around you, I always am

426
00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:47,960
Speaker 1: trying to be on my coolest behavior. How do you

427
00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:50,359
Speaker 1: How does that make you feel? They have a cool

428
00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:55,360
Speaker 1: sort of magneticism that actually draws It's like cupping where

429
00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:59,840
Speaker 1: sort of draws it out of other people. Certainly a cruise,

430
00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:02,400
Speaker 1: he's a bruise. But it's actually but then like people

431
00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:04,520
Speaker 1: still put it on the Insta stories because they want

432
00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:06,320
Speaker 1: to they want to show. They put on in stories

433
00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:09,560
Speaker 1: that they paid for it. Wow, that they're going in

434
00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:11,400
Speaker 1: that they're going to accute pressure or whatever the hell?

435
00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:15,040
Speaker 1: You know, Matt, I think you're really cool around me.

436
00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:21,400
Speaker 1: I tried, That's what I trying super hard. You've also

437
00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:23,680
Speaker 1: seen me in zones where I'm like, gotta be a

438
00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:28,399
Speaker 1: little cool because I'm like hosting a show or public

439
00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:37,080
Speaker 1: facing facing mats, not like slop industry mat. Yeah, talk

440
00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:40,120
Speaker 1: about this at this California journey. What brought you there?

441
00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:43,879
Speaker 1: Were you seeing everything? How do you feel about California

442
00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:48,440
Speaker 1: in general? Recently they have removed the drudge struck down,

443
00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:53,160
Speaker 1: the assault rifles, assault weapons ban, and brought me here.

444
00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:57,760
Speaker 1: That's what brought you? Well, I'm in SF right now

445
00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:00,720
Speaker 1: and I'm saying in an airbnb not who docks my

446
00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:06,080
Speaker 1: own self, but I in preparation for this recording, I

447
00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:11,160
Speaker 1: did hang what could only be described as dirty cowels

448
00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:16,280
Speaker 1: and sheets around a closet to sort of I don't

449
00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:18,320
Speaker 1: really know. I think I was feeling bad that I

450
00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:21,080
Speaker 1: didn't have an external microphone and sort of had to

451
00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:26,520
Speaker 1: compensate for that in a physical way. And I don't

452
00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:31,040
Speaker 1: mean to bring this this into this discussion. No, no problem.

453
00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:37,119
Speaker 1: But did I not tell you it's no worries if

454
00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:39,879
Speaker 1: you don't have an external mike. You did say that,

455
00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:43,560
Speaker 1: but you also followed up about whether or not I

456
00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:46,440
Speaker 1: hadn't because you didn't answer, and and then, and this

457
00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:49,840
Speaker 1: is what happened, Matt, and the producers of this show

458
00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:52,640
Speaker 1: already throwing under the bus. I just want to point out,

459
00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:56,119
Speaker 1: we're following up with me. They were like, do they

460
00:26:56,200 --> 00:27:00,280
Speaker 1: have mike? And I was like, I'm asking, and I

461
00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:03,080
Speaker 1: will report back when I know. And so then I

462
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:05,320
Speaker 1: felt the need to double pump and ask you again

463
00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:07,920
Speaker 1: and be like, I'm sorry, let me know, and do

464
00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:10,760
Speaker 1: let me know when you have If you have, it

465
00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:14,480
Speaker 1: might and and to know now that, oh my god,

466
00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:16,560
Speaker 1: this is awful to know that you feel a certain

467
00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:19,400
Speaker 1: way about hanging up all these dirty coats. And Matt

468
00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:22,440
Speaker 1: feels like he's thrown under the best. I can't win.

469
00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:26,840
Speaker 1: I can't I need a w in this life. I mean,

470
00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:31,280
Speaker 1: I you literally were before you were sounding like very

471
00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:35,359
Speaker 1: like sort of hot before when you were sort of

472
00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:37,800
Speaker 1: making my booty wiggle before with the way you were talking.

473
00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:45,840
Speaker 1: And that's for you. The threesome not not every threesome

474
00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:49,320
Speaker 1: a double and that's a real culture, it's real cure

475
00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:58,680
Speaker 1: number seventy, not it's a w um Well, Celeste, any

476
00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:03,680
Speaker 1: threesomes on in in your pastor on the horizon, yeah,

477
00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:08,399
Speaker 1: I have had one. Yeah, tell tell us in detail,

478
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:12,520
Speaker 1: including names. I really feel that Bowen didn't share enough

479
00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:19,040
Speaker 1: details where I don't feel I don't think completely comfortable.

480
00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:24,119
Speaker 1: You didn't share details about yours. Yeah, you didn't ask

481
00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:26,480
Speaker 1: And by the way, I I followed up with the

482
00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:31,879
Speaker 1: I followed up with people in said threesome who listened

483
00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:35,200
Speaker 1: to the episode, and they said Boone didn't really ask

484
00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:37,159
Speaker 1: a question about it, and I was like, you know,

485
00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:39,480
Speaker 1: he did it. And by the way, they also told

486
00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:42,760
Speaker 1: me they're not having threesomes anymore. So I don't know

487
00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:44,840
Speaker 1: if that's a comment on my abilities and said reason.

488
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:46,800
Speaker 1: And I did follow up about that. I was like,

489
00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:49,200
Speaker 1: I hope it's because I didn't sunk up. They said, no, no, no,

490
00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:51,600
Speaker 1: we loved you. We just decided it wasn't for us

491
00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:53,920
Speaker 1: for other reasons. And I was like, okay, great, and

492
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:55,840
Speaker 1: they were like you're the best, we love you. And

493
00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:59,040
Speaker 1: then I was like great, So so just know that's

494
00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:02,840
Speaker 1: how that ended. Wow, And that's me sharing a lot

495
00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:05,280
Speaker 1: of details. And then they're gonna listen to this episode

496
00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:07,560
Speaker 1: and and I'm sure there'll be a conversation about it,

497
00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:09,400
Speaker 1: and they'll they'll probably reassure me and be like, it

498
00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:11,560
Speaker 1: wasn't you. We had a great time, and I just

499
00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:14,280
Speaker 1: want to clarify we did and I did just raising

500
00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:16,600
Speaker 1: my hand. Everyone had a great time. And yet they

501
00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:20,600
Speaker 1: decided never again. Yeah, they've decided never again. I think

502
00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:22,400
Speaker 1: that's okay. I don't think that says anything about I

503
00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:24,680
Speaker 1: honestly don't think it says anything about you, Matt. I

504
00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:26,840
Speaker 1: don't think so either. But I didn't think it was funny.

505
00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:31,240
Speaker 1: I find it interesting that they sort of turned to

506
00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:34,440
Speaker 1: put the blame on Bowen for not asking more questions. Yeah,

507
00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:37,880
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Well it was funny because we we literally

508
00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:39,800
Speaker 1: it was so funny because we brought it. I listened

509
00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:41,640
Speaker 1: to it again and we brought it up. And then

510
00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:46,960
Speaker 1: Boone was like, so the Friends reunion, No, it's because

511
00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:50,440
Speaker 1: you you had already told me about the details. I

512
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:53,320
Speaker 1: don't one and then one on one. Not every conversation

513
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:55,200
Speaker 1: needs to be for the readers. You know, you're so

514
00:29:55,480 --> 00:30:00,160
Speaker 1: right because they're mixed company. Mixed company and okay, I mean,

515
00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:06,000
Speaker 1: uh my, my review of this threesome is that it

516
00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:08,960
Speaker 1: seemed like it was fun for all good. But I

517
00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:11,080
Speaker 1: will say I am also a little hung up on

518
00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:12,400
Speaker 1: the fact that they were like, he didn't really ask

519
00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:14,120
Speaker 1: a question. It's like when the three of you were

520
00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:16,520
Speaker 1: naked together, were they were the two of them playing?

521
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:20,120
Speaker 1: To me, it wasn't like that. It was just I

522
00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:23,200
Speaker 1: think that everyone involved was like and that wasn't me

523
00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:26,160
Speaker 1: was like, huh, like it didn't seem that interesting to Bowen.

524
00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:28,600
Speaker 1: And we should say it's because I told Bowen about

525
00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:30,960
Speaker 1: it beforehand, in fact, pretty much right after it happened,

526
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:33,040
Speaker 1: because I was excited about it, and was I not

527
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:36,200
Speaker 1: excited with you. I was. I met you on your

528
00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:38,280
Speaker 1: level and I was like, he even FaceTime to me

529
00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:42,280
Speaker 1: about it with Joshua D. Sharpe. You didn't FaceTime me, yester,

530
00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:46,560
Speaker 1: No you didn't. Okay, Well, first of all, I was

531
00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:52,840
Speaker 1: running all about how look this is about celest review

532
00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:58,120
Speaker 1: review your threesome. Now now, I said, without details. Uh,

533
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:04,360
Speaker 1: it was good and then bad. That sounds about right,

534
00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:08,440
Speaker 1: you know, and and and in as in a way

535
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:12,120
Speaker 1: that is general to all three somes, no matter, no

536
00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:15,240
Speaker 1: matter the gender permutations. Yeah, three somes are good and

537
00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:20,680
Speaker 1: then bad. Yeah, yeah, yeah, because ultimately, during a threesome experience,

538
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:23,920
Speaker 1: you run the risk of sort of two people enjoying

539
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:28,800
Speaker 1: it more than one other one for sure, just on

540
00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:31,480
Speaker 1: a numbers level. Yeah, the numbers are going to be

541
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:33,680
Speaker 1: against you can't all three be on the same page.

542
00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:36,880
Speaker 1: And that's why we're all fighting. That's where we're all fighting.

543
00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:40,480
Speaker 1: We're all fighting. I mean, the triangle is never going

544
00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:45,000
Speaker 1: to be equilateral, not even you're lucky if it's Isosceles, bitch,

545
00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:49,760
Speaker 1: because most of the time you're dealing with scaling, okay, equal,

546
00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:56,760
Speaker 1: I don't triangles more like the white rhino extinct. Oh really,

547
00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:58,560
Speaker 1: sorry to bring that up with This is a this

548
00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:01,080
Speaker 1: is a current event, and if we hadn't mentioned the

549
00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:04,040
Speaker 1: white rhinos extension, we would have heard about it. Thoughts

550
00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:07,120
Speaker 1: on the extinction of the white rhinos. Yes, well, I

551
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:10,920
Speaker 1: would hate for the people you had a threesome with

552
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:13,960
Speaker 1: two say that I did not say enough about that.

553
00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:16,600
Speaker 1: And that's why. I just want to come up clean

554
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:21,800
Speaker 1: and say, hey, that's what a shame, right, what a shame?

555
00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:27,480
Speaker 1: I am upset? Yeah, okay, well, now we answered the

556
00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:29,920
Speaker 1: question about the white rhino. Thoughts on the extinction of

557
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:33,080
Speaker 1: the white rhino, that's what I was talking about. I

558
00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:38,040
Speaker 1: thought you were talking about the threesome. Only positive feelings

559
00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:42,120
Speaker 1: about Matt's threesome. I would love you offline about it FaceTime.

560
00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:46,440
Speaker 1: Thank you your family to me. Now you'd say that

561
00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:49,120
Speaker 1: you would you would categorize your feelings on the extinction

562
00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:52,400
Speaker 1: of the white rhino as angered angry. I said, I

563
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:56,320
Speaker 1: think upset. I think it's bad. That's my official statement.

564
00:32:56,480 --> 00:33:00,360
Speaker 1: And if anybody listening wants me to say more, I will,

565
00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:04,880
Speaker 1: because I listen to feedback. It is important to me.

566
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:09,960
Speaker 1: You do you really do? You've taken all feedback and

567
00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:15,640
Speaker 1: you accept it. Do you do you fight for animals?

568
00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:22,280
Speaker 1: Would say that I do fight for animals to be

569
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:31,480
Speaker 1: happy and for owen to be happy. Thank you not

570
00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:37,640
Speaker 1: to seem cool around me, this is good. We want

571
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:43,600
Speaker 1: to talk about something. Frank Gillespie is a little bit.

572
00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:48,240
Speaker 1: I think she's retiring a catchphrase that she was using.

573
00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:52,800
Speaker 1: I think now Celeste has has adopted, which is that'll

574
00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:57,280
Speaker 1: be perfect for me. It's some form like if it's good,

575
00:33:57,320 --> 00:33:59,120
Speaker 1: no matter what the contact is, if if it's something

576
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:02,000
Speaker 1: good or bad, happy and as someone's like we're so sorry,

577
00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:05,160
Speaker 1: like you don't qualify for this credit card, let's say

578
00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:10,800
Speaker 1: that'll be bad for me. Well, sometimes, and this is

579
00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:13,560
Speaker 1: actually just the truth, sometimes someone will think if they

580
00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:16,120
Speaker 1: have a catch phrase, that's theirs, and then someone else

581
00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:18,200
Speaker 1: will come along and sort of take that catchphrase and

582
00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:22,879
Speaker 1: guess what, the glove fits a little snugger on them.

583
00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:27,640
Speaker 1: So you I mean this For example, it's like when

584
00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:29,840
Speaker 1: when Houston came along and saying I will always love you.

585
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:33,879
Speaker 1: Did she write the song the tune? No, Dolly Parton did.

586
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:37,320
Speaker 1: But you can't say that that glove doesn't fit a

587
00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:44,560
Speaker 1: little snugger on MS Houston's hand, And so I feel

588
00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:47,360
Speaker 1: this is the same with you. Fran can sort of

589
00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:52,480
Speaker 1: get fucked because it looks like this catchphrase is fitting

590
00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:57,600
Speaker 1: pretty well on you. I want to start. I want

591
00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:01,640
Speaker 1: to start as many conflicts as possible. Yeah, we're here

592
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:10,960
Speaker 1: because is not abuse, you guys. I was conflict abuse

593
00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:14,160
Speaker 1: you guys, you guys, it was there, you guys in

594
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:25,560
Speaker 1: there yeah, okay, does not abuse you. Guys. I think

595
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:28,239
Speaker 1: it's time we asked. So that's the question. Hi time,

596
00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:31,080
Speaker 1: Hi time. So that's what is the culture that made

597
00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:33,520
Speaker 1: you say culture is for me? This is the culture

598
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:36,279
Speaker 1: that made you and your work, in your life and

599
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:42,440
Speaker 1: your being move in a cultural direction. Picture young Celeste

600
00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:47,800
Speaker 1: sort of at a crossroads of culture, sort of in

601
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:52,759
Speaker 1: Toronto doing I don't think where they worthy at the show.

602
00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:57,560
Speaker 1: That's the cross of the crossroads. Talk about the culture

603
00:35:57,640 --> 00:36:02,279
Speaker 1: that founded you for me, And I'm so scared that

604
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:04,719
Speaker 1: somebody has already said this. It doesn't matter. That's fine

605
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:06,360
Speaker 1: because because the way that you say it is going

606
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:11,480
Speaker 1: to be different than them. Yes, it was the first

607
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:17,120
Speaker 1: um script I ever laid eyes on beautiful. It was

608
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:22,640
Speaker 1: do no. No one said it, No one said it.

609
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:26,799
Speaker 1: And actually I really fucking appreciate it, because Matt, I've

610
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:28,359
Speaker 1: told you and I'm even probably said on the pot

611
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:30,960
Speaker 1: a million times. I'm like, and there's a reason why

612
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:33,320
Speaker 1: that is an Oscar winning screenplay. Like that is actually

613
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:35,840
Speaker 1: because the people who just love to shoot on Juno

614
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:38,600
Speaker 1: as a movie are like, oh, it's like all like

615
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:41,439
Speaker 1: the slang that like that, like that, like that, that's

616
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:46,359
Speaker 1: like the stupid oh you mean the fucking the point

617
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:50,160
Speaker 1: of view style and point of view and like, yeah,

618
00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:59,640
Speaker 1: just incredible and and Diablo Cody, we love talk talk

619
00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:04,880
Speaker 1: about talk about. Um My mom had seen it, I

620
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:11,640
Speaker 1: guess at a tiff at the Toronto International Film Festival. Industry. Yeah,

621
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:14,239
Speaker 1: I've been kind of I was sort of raised by

622
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:20,960
Speaker 1: the industry, and she had seen it. She told me, like,

623
00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:24,520
Speaker 1: I think you should watch it. If your mom knew

624
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:26,600
Speaker 1: that you would like it, yeah, like she had recommended

625
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:29,080
Speaker 1: it to me. And then I guess at the time,

626
00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:33,000
Speaker 1: I had just learned how to like torrent movies, but

627
00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:35,440
Speaker 1: I couldn't find the Torrent for it was what was

628
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:43,040
Speaker 1: your preferred platform, your preferred software? Lime wire? Yeah, I

629
00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:47,319
Speaker 1: was started reaching high uppit to the family computer, kind

630
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:50,759
Speaker 1: of clacking away at lime wire. Your mom was like,

631
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:54,279
Speaker 1: you should find a way to watch this, yes, And

632
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:57,080
Speaker 1: it was like probably like had just premiered. Like I

633
00:37:57,120 --> 00:37:59,400
Speaker 1: didn't really know how like movie releases work, and so

634
00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:03,839
Speaker 1: I was like trying to tourned it for weeks and um,

635
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:09,359
Speaker 1: what what year? It was probably like two yeah, two seven, Um,

636
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:13,800
Speaker 1: and so I couldn't find the clip or like the

637
00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:19,000
Speaker 1: movie itself but I found the script. Oh so you

638
00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:20,799
Speaker 1: read the script like as if it were some sort

639
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:25,000
Speaker 1: of book. Yes, I read it like over and over again.

640
00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:28,600
Speaker 1: Had you already been into like plays at the summer

641
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:33,560
Speaker 1: theater like develops and that was wow? Not at all? Yeah,

642
00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:38,040
Speaker 1: m I yeah, we were very much like a movie

643
00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 1: watching Household, But I didn't really it wasn't my personality

644
00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:44,600
Speaker 1: yet to like what to do that got it? So

645
00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:50,520
Speaker 1: then talk about there's no I mean like talk about

646
00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:52,600
Speaker 1: like what you like felt, because I really I really

647
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:54,640
Speaker 1: loved the Street and actually makes a lot of sense,

648
00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:58,560
Speaker 1: you think, I think? So, yeah, say more about that.

649
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:03,759
Speaker 1: It's like it is a movie that is like just

650
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:10,640
Speaker 1: so tightly conceived, and it's about like can we say

651
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:15,320
Speaker 1: it's I just think it's like I I'm obsessed with

652
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:17,040
Speaker 1: that movie in a way that like I don't think

653
00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:20,680
Speaker 1: I have not found that other people have, which I

654
00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:22,560
Speaker 1: know is such a gross thing to say. I do

655
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:24,480
Speaker 1: feel like whenever I bring it up, I have to

656
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:26,359
Speaker 1: be like I have to qualify in such a way

657
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:28,600
Speaker 1: that it's like I actually think it's a great movie

658
00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:30,680
Speaker 1: which I hate and I should stop doing I should

659
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:32,799
Speaker 1: I should do that. Can I say why I think

660
00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:35,160
Speaker 1: that's true. I think the reason why we have to

661
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:37,640
Speaker 1: qualify liking it is because I think I've said it

662
00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:40,560
Speaker 1: on this podcast before, but that movie came out at

663
00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:43,560
Speaker 1: a time when the apptw comedies were all coming out,

664
00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:46,440
Speaker 1: and it had Michael Sarah. So when I went to

665
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:47,840
Speaker 1: go see it in high school, I went to go

666
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:50,719
Speaker 1: see it with all my male friends and they were

667
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:53,120
Speaker 1: all straight, and I had told them that I was

668
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:55,160
Speaker 1: really excited to see it because I felt it was

669
00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:56,920
Speaker 1: gonna be I would think I was really excited to

670
00:39:56,920 --> 00:39:58,839
Speaker 1: see it for what it was, and I thought maybe

671
00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:00,800
Speaker 1: it would be like a harder comedy than it was

672
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:05,320
Speaker 1: and not like a sweet, stylish, cool movie with a

673
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:08,560
Speaker 1: female protagonist. UM like it like it was, And I

674
00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:11,240
Speaker 1: think that um, my friends got angry with me because

675
00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:13,239
Speaker 1: I had went so hard and wanted to go see

676
00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:15,719
Speaker 1: it and they didn't connect to it. So I think

677
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:17,880
Speaker 1: that maybe Bowing up at the time, that was a

678
00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:21,480
Speaker 1: similar situation for you, where it's just like but I

679
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:24,080
Speaker 1: was was we were still closet and when that came out,

680
00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:27,040
Speaker 1: bow totally, but there was just there was something about

681
00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:31,680
Speaker 1: like I just watched it, I rememberthing wow, okay, like

682
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:36,000
Speaker 1: like Elliott Page is like a star, like put him

683
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:40,560
Speaker 1: in everything. And then it was just like I was

684
00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:42,680
Speaker 1: thrilled with a one on the Oscar? Why was Vanilliott

685
00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:44,960
Speaker 1: was nominated? I was just like I was like, yeah,

686
00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:46,680
Speaker 1: fuck you did. The people who don't there was just

687
00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:51,239
Speaker 1: this like am I crazy? Hans saying that everyone picks

688
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:53,520
Speaker 1: on the Hamburger phone? I mean the Hamburger phone is

689
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:56,520
Speaker 1: is it? Is it like late? But she's a teenager.

690
00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 1: She's a teenager. I think we can say the Hamburger

691
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:03,720
Speaker 1: phone is is a is a moment in the script

692
00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:06,720
Speaker 1: where it's just like, okay, this is like this character

693
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:09,040
Speaker 1: has a Hamburger phone, and I can I think some

694
00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:12,319
Speaker 1: people say this is like a twee bridge too far,

695
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:15,000
Speaker 1: but not me. I'm not one of those people. I

696
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:19,200
Speaker 1: think phone is lovely. Yeah, I mean it felt like

697
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 1: I think because of like the like you know, drawn

698
00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:27,520
Speaker 1: kind of style of it. It's sort of it is

699
00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:30,879
Speaker 1: like quirky in this way. But to me it was like, so, um,

700
00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:33,680
Speaker 1: the way it's written is like kind of not as

701
00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:36,160
Speaker 1: a comedy, if that makes sense, And like I think

702
00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:40,879
Speaker 1: that that was like exciting to me, like because I yeah,

703
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:47,000
Speaker 1: like was always draws more like romantic stories, and like,

704
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:50,800
Speaker 1: I think what was exciting about it was that, like

705
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:55,920
Speaker 1: it's sort of like sneakily a comedy. It wasn't trying

706
00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:59,080
Speaker 1: hard to crack you up like all those Apple Town

707
00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:03,000
Speaker 1: movies were. Like, it wasn't like Vince Vaughan improvising at

708
00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:07,200
Speaker 1: us hard for three minutes straight. It was like it

709
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:11,320
Speaker 1: was right, which I yeah, what do you think? I

710
00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:16,279
Speaker 1: find it very upsetting? Is like here it is the

711
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:21,280
Speaker 1: laugh is coming. Get ready for it? Yea, exactly exactly,

712
00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:25,040
Speaker 1: And like the movie is like a very surprising story

713
00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:27,360
Speaker 1: in its own way where it's like like I remember

714
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:29,920
Speaker 1: going in not knowing too much about it, and then

715
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:32,720
Speaker 1: like the whole Jason Bateman, like the whole story of Juno,

716
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:35,719
Speaker 1: and like just hanging out with Jason Bateman's character is

717
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:38,640
Speaker 1: like this is not what I expected. And and then

718
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:40,400
Speaker 1: it plays out in a very bizarre way. And then

719
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:43,600
Speaker 1: like I just I think clearly Elliott's the best part,

720
00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:47,160
Speaker 1: but Jennifer Gardner is like the unsung and the movie

721
00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:51,319
Speaker 1: does not work without her that performance In a way,

722
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:54,520
Speaker 1: does that make sense? Like like like would she like

723
00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:57,160
Speaker 1: that in that first scene when they meet and she's like, um,

724
00:42:57,320 --> 00:42:59,200
Speaker 1: you found us in the Penny Saver like that, like

725
00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:03,040
Speaker 1: like the little moments like that are like kind of

726
00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:05,400
Speaker 1: the keystones to the movie form clearly. And it's like

727
00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:12,120
Speaker 1: a blue collar story and it's you know, it's so

728
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:19,040
Speaker 1: it's so like active, you know, like it's like this

729
00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:21,640
Speaker 1: like young girl who just like going out and doing

730
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:25,879
Speaker 1: all these things. And I think that's also why it's

731
00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:28,399
Speaker 1: like it feels like gripping in this way, like you're

732
00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:30,960
Speaker 1: scared for her the whole time. It's like a completely

733
00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:35,239
Speaker 1: dangerous story. Yes, yeah, I also think, um, like it's

734
00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:38,239
Speaker 1: funny we bring up Jennifer Garner and obviously Elliott like

735
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:40,440
Speaker 1: because they're such a big part of it, Andrewson Bateman

736
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:42,680
Speaker 1: but even down to the tiny part and Michael Sandoway

737
00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:49,920
Speaker 1: mentioned but so good, Jenny so good. J K. Simmons

738
00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:53,800
Speaker 1: is so good in it. Like you get the sense

739
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:59,200
Speaker 1: that the entire cast um wanted to be a part

740
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:01,759
Speaker 1: of it because they read the script and they were like,

741
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:04,120
Speaker 1: I have to be a part of it. Like it

742
00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:06,480
Speaker 1: really does the'll go back to the script, I think,

743
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:11,839
Speaker 1: and um so and like yes, like the performances are

744
00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:14,800
Speaker 1: great and I think that you know that one of

745
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:17,520
Speaker 1: my favorite lines in the movie is when Jennifer Garner

746
00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:19,680
Speaker 1: finds them when they're playing instruments and she goes not

747
00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:23,560
Speaker 1: to interrupt the jam session. But that was an improvised line.

748
00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:26,960
Speaker 1: And um, like, I think that when a script is

749
00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:29,160
Speaker 1: as we said about last week with My Eastown, when

750
00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:31,120
Speaker 1: a script is so specific and you get the opportunity

751
00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:32,960
Speaker 1: to get so specific with the characters, that allows the

752
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:36,520
Speaker 1: actors to get specific. And that's why all the performances

753
00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:38,640
Speaker 1: are so good, because the script is so good and

754
00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:41,560
Speaker 1: so specific. And I think that it sometimes gets boiled

755
00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:44,560
Speaker 1: down to, oh, that's that script with the Hamburger phone.

756
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:47,360
Speaker 1: But meanwhile, Hamburger phone is like a funny specific that

757
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:49,719
Speaker 1: the character says because she has a Hamburger phone, you

758
00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:52,680
Speaker 1: know what? And like, who among us as teenagers didn't

759
00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:56,000
Speaker 1: have some fucking stupid novelty thing in our rooms, Like

760
00:44:56,200 --> 00:45:00,400
Speaker 1: yeah that I don't. I reject that completely. That bullshitting

761
00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:04,080
Speaker 1: on the hammer that actually sucks. Actually, if you're if

762
00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:06,360
Speaker 1: you if you're bothered by the Hamburger phone in Juno

763
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:15,000
Speaker 1: go to jail, jail before we abolished, it's a it's

764
00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:18,480
Speaker 1: a thinly veiled like complaint. I think about it being

765
00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:22,800
Speaker 1: like a teenage girl speaking, I agree. Just say that

766
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:25,440
Speaker 1: you hate teenage girls. Yeah, just say that you hate

767
00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:27,640
Speaker 1: teenage girls. Oh you know. You know what other great

768
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:30,560
Speaker 1: Jennifer Garner moment is in that movie is um towards

769
00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:37,040
Speaker 1: the stands Jennifer Garner like she is bones queen, She's

770
00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:39,040
Speaker 1: my queen. But she like like at the end, like

771
00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:40,680
Speaker 1: like the last scene between that you see between her

772
00:45:40,719 --> 00:45:43,120
Speaker 1: and Jason Bateman were like like they get into the

773
00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:45,200
Speaker 1: fight and then he's just like, I need time, and

774
00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:47,600
Speaker 1: then she's like for what to be a rock star?

775
00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:50,160
Speaker 1: Like I'm like the way she delivers that, I'm like

776
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:55,040
Speaker 1: Jesus Christ, I remember, like I remember the way it sounds.

777
00:45:56,560 --> 00:45:58,279
Speaker 1: And then oh, and then I think, I'm pretty sure

778
00:45:58,320 --> 00:46:00,320
Speaker 1: this is this is improvised. It must be a presure.

779
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:03,080
Speaker 1: Must have been Elliott's idea. But when she went, you know,

780
00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:06,560
Speaker 1: like throws the when they get into a find, she

781
00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:08,680
Speaker 1: runs out and she's just like, I listen to your

782
00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:11,560
Speaker 1: Sonic Youth album and it's just noise. Like that is

783
00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:15,760
Speaker 1: such a funny line. I think it's a fantastic movie,

784
00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:22,719
Speaker 1: really really good. I haven't seen it so long, but

785
00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:25,960
Speaker 1: I was just trying to think of and you know,

786
00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:33,600
Speaker 1: like sort of young kind of media awakenings, and that

787
00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:36,719
Speaker 1: was the only one that like I I sneak, you know,

788
00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:40,680
Speaker 1: all of them are like fucking SNL things and whatever.

789
00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:43,239
Speaker 1: That was really the like, I really think that was

790
00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:48,680
Speaker 1: like the beginning. That's good. Let's let's said I was

791
00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:52,239
Speaker 1: thinking of media awakenings. And then they go, hell as

792
00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:55,439
Speaker 1: if that wasn't the premise of this whole fucking show. Yeah,

793
00:46:56,200 --> 00:47:00,680
Speaker 1: actually rude, yeah, pretty much in the huge critic of

794
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:04,680
Speaker 1: this show and have planted ideas all over the internet

795
00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:08,320
Speaker 1: about why I think it should end up. Yes, you know,

796
00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:11,239
Speaker 1: like it's it's actually interesting, like this was like a

797
00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:14,799
Speaker 1: like a weird triptych of Elliott page performances earlier early

798
00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:17,600
Speaker 1: on that are so fucking good. And I actually think

799
00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:21,919
Speaker 1: that like Juliett Page doesn't really get the credit as

800
00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:28,920
Speaker 1: an actor because hard Candy Juno and sorry, whipp It Bit,

801
00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:32,879
Speaker 1: we have to put respect on whipp It's name because

802
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:36,880
Speaker 1: it is good. And Drew Barrymore was a great director,

803
00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:41,919
Speaker 1: Kristin Wig was great in it, Marcia Day was great

804
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:46,920
Speaker 1: in it. Marcia gay Harden was stunning in whip It. Yes, yes, yes,

805
00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:49,680
Speaker 1: I should watch that whip it is good and Juliet

806
00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:53,400
Speaker 1: Lewis also turns out giving one of the most Juliet

807
00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:59,920
Speaker 1: Lewis performances ever. And bring it back to Tiff. I

808
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:03,279
Speaker 1: think I saw the premiere of that Tiff that would

809
00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:07,120
Speaker 1: make sense you were a Tiff kid, it seems. Yeah,

810
00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:10,040
Speaker 1: I'm just kind of scene at Tiff. Could you imagine

811
00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:12,960
Speaker 1: going to a film festival as a child, Matt, I can't.

812
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:15,400
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't have that. I don't have that

813
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:18,200
Speaker 1: ability to imagine that. Being raised by the industry my life.

814
00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:20,440
Speaker 1: So my life would turned out so much better if

815
00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:23,640
Speaker 1: I truly can't imagine being a child at ten. That

816
00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:28,399
Speaker 1: could go on try to torrent things either. But gen

817
00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:31,880
Speaker 1: Z is in the chat, so you know everyone and

818
00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:36,640
Speaker 1: everyone in gen Z has been to Tiff or tell

819
00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:40,680
Speaker 1: your Ride or any of the big festivals. Yeah, they

820
00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:44,600
Speaker 1: just give them out to gen Z like industry passes. God,

821
00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:48,200
Speaker 1: I can grow up with us, you know. Also, I'm

822
00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:50,399
Speaker 1: also remembering not just a hot back to June, because

823
00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:51,960
Speaker 1: you know who else is favorite movie this is is

824
00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:56,560
Speaker 1: Jared um and so so he had on Shuffle like

825
00:48:56,680 --> 00:48:59,440
Speaker 1: a couple weeks ago, like um And I guess the

826
00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:05,160
Speaker 1: soundtrack to Juno was playing anyone could see with anyone else,

827
00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:10,080
Speaker 1: but that song is so sweet and it ends so sweet.

828
00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:12,040
Speaker 1: I remember, I remember at the time when I was

829
00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:15,440
Speaker 1: like sixteen seventeen watching it. It was ending like that

830
00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:17,960
Speaker 1: and a huge part of me was loving it. And

831
00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:21,600
Speaker 1: all my straight friends are like, song, dude, I were

832
00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:24,560
Speaker 1: listening to this song, Dude, why is Michael Sarah singing? Dude?

833
00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:31,600
Speaker 1: You know that's such a good soundtrack. It's so good.

834
00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:36,799
Speaker 1: Cat Power think of love cap Powers. Yeah, that's that's

835
00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:39,560
Speaker 1: that's that's a great cap Power cover. Did you know

836
00:49:39,719 --> 00:49:42,080
Speaker 1: this was Roger Ebert's number one movie of the year

837
00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:47,720
Speaker 1: two thousand and seven. Really yeah. But also the impact

838
00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:52,000
Speaker 1: of it was like like taking indie movies like seriously yeah,

839
00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:53,719
Speaker 1: and it was a movie about a teenage girl that

840
00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:56,200
Speaker 1: was like that. People were like, hey, this is and

841
00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:58,279
Speaker 1: they never because they never say this. They're never like

842
00:49:58,640 --> 00:50:01,279
Speaker 1: this is good and worthy of a words consideration and like,

843
00:50:01,600 --> 00:50:02,920
Speaker 1: you know, one of the best of the year. It

844
00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:05,760
Speaker 1: feels like if a movie is ever about like teenage girls,

845
00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:08,480
Speaker 1: they kind of like it has to get its credit later,

846
00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:11,239
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like people only notice that

847
00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:14,759
Speaker 1: Clueless is a fucking a plus script for all time.

848
00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:18,279
Speaker 1: Years later, people only talk about Mean Girls as a

849
00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:22,680
Speaker 1: prestige comedy script about teen girls. Years later, it felt

850
00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:26,640
Speaker 1: like this was a weird exception to that rule totally,

851
00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:29,200
Speaker 1: but and yet it was still I mean the reason

852
00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:31,680
Speaker 1: where I hate that we're I kind of hate that

853
00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:34,600
Speaker 1: I brought into the discussion that like, oh, people seem

854
00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:38,200
Speaker 1: to really dislike it when that doesn't have to be

855
00:50:38,360 --> 00:50:42,600
Speaker 1: part of the legacy of Juneo. Um, So I'm sorry

856
00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:44,359
Speaker 1: for bringing that into the conversation. As soon as Left

857
00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:46,239
Speaker 1: was like, my thing is Juno, and I was like, oh,

858
00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:49,840
Speaker 1: isn't it so awful that people don't like Except No,

859
00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:52,160
Speaker 1: but I think you're reacting to something that's real, which

860
00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:53,920
Speaker 1: is I mean, there's a lot of things, but I

861
00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:56,360
Speaker 1: think it's a lot of patriarchy. It's a lot of

862
00:50:56,440 --> 00:51:00,200
Speaker 1: patriarchy involved with this movie. That movies about girls get

863
00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:04,760
Speaker 1: like fucking relegated to like some like lower status or something.

864
00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:08,799
Speaker 1: And I think what I'm saying is I'm not surprised

865
00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:10,640
Speaker 1: to hear you say that, Bowen, because I think the

866
00:51:10,680 --> 00:51:13,560
Speaker 1: patriarchy has affected us visa VI this movie more than

867
00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:17,080
Speaker 1: we realize. Because we were at a weird age when

868
00:51:17,120 --> 00:51:20,239
Speaker 1: it came out because we were sort of trying to

869
00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:22,560
Speaker 1: figure it out in that way. Does that make sense?

870
00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:24,680
Speaker 1: It makes total sense. I'm a that Diablo Cody fan

871
00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:27,440
Speaker 1: them because I've never seen Jennifer's body. Oh, Jennifer's Body

872
00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:29,000
Speaker 1: is one of my favorite movies of hers. And we

873
00:51:29,080 --> 00:51:30,960
Speaker 1: have to get Diablo on the pot. I just realized,

874
00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:33,880
Speaker 1: And one and one thing I want to do is

875
00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:36,920
Speaker 1: look her in the eyes and say, Jennifer's body deserved

876
00:51:36,960 --> 00:51:42,239
Speaker 1: more to less. Do you stand Jennifer's body? Yeah, it's good.

877
00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:46,600
Speaker 1: It's so good, except there's one part of it I

878
00:51:46,680 --> 00:51:50,279
Speaker 1: don't like, which is when they have that weird sex scene. Yeah.

879
00:51:50,440 --> 00:51:53,040
Speaker 1: I really watched that movie at like a boy girl

880
00:51:53,560 --> 00:51:59,640
Speaker 1: like party in the basement, and I I was sweating

881
00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:04,160
Speaker 1: so much and my like ass was like touching this

882
00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:09,520
Speaker 1: like boy's ass, and like I just remember feeling warm

883
00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:16,359
Speaker 1: for like many reasons warm. And all I really feel

884
00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:19,480
Speaker 1: is that when I hear Jennifer's body. But Bowen, I

885
00:52:19,560 --> 00:52:22,440
Speaker 1: think you should watch Okay, and can I ask the

886
00:52:22,719 --> 00:52:28,960
Speaker 1: sex scene is gay? It's between Megan Fox, who's great

887
00:52:29,040 --> 00:52:33,360
Speaker 1: in it, and then Mana cypred and basically like it

888
00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:36,839
Speaker 1: feels like it was sort of put in there by

889
00:52:36,920 --> 00:52:39,800
Speaker 1: the That's how I feel is it just feels like

890
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:44,320
Speaker 1: this had there was no real hint or intimation that

891
00:52:44,360 --> 00:52:47,040
Speaker 1: they'd be interested in doing something like this. It felt

892
00:52:47,120 --> 00:52:49,560
Speaker 1: like something that was a symptom of Megan Fox being

893
00:52:49,600 --> 00:52:53,560
Speaker 1: in the movie, and some dudes that were involved were like, hey,

894
00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:55,120
Speaker 1: we got to put this in there. It kind of

895
00:52:55,239 --> 00:52:58,200
Speaker 1: felt like that. Yeah, and and so I'd be interested

896
00:52:58,239 --> 00:53:01,200
Speaker 1: to ask the question to be honest, Um, But because

897
00:53:01,239 --> 00:53:04,840
Speaker 1: I think the movie is so good and interesting and

898
00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:09,080
Speaker 1: actually scary and funny as ship. And I think that again,

899
00:53:09,320 --> 00:53:11,800
Speaker 1: because it was about teen girls, it didn't get taken

900
00:53:11,960 --> 00:53:16,800
Speaker 1: seriously as like this sort of like conscious pulp. It

901
00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:20,600
Speaker 1: was trying to be like I sometimes feel like like

902
00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:25,759
Speaker 1: boy movies get to be knowingly pulpe, and like quote

903
00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:28,879
Speaker 1: unquote girl movies like don't get to be. Then they're

904
00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:30,960
Speaker 1: like tossed out and like, you know, Jennifer's Body was

905
00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:34,239
Speaker 1: a quote unquote flop, but it was funny and good

906
00:53:35,239 --> 00:53:39,240
Speaker 1: and I don't know which gross like to be gross,

907
00:53:39,560 --> 00:53:44,080
Speaker 1: you know, had that same I think stink on it

908
00:53:45,120 --> 00:53:51,080
Speaker 1: it's a yuck. Yeah, yeah, yeah. She also another another

909
00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:53,759
Speaker 1: movie that Diabolo Cody wrote, which I think is didn't

910
00:53:53,800 --> 00:53:58,480
Speaker 1: get the credit either as young adult so good genius movie.

911
00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:03,960
Speaker 1: Oh that's and that is like as unlikable of a

912
00:54:04,280 --> 00:54:08,600
Speaker 1: protagonist as you can write like that. Yeah, I can't

913
00:54:08,600 --> 00:54:15,080
Speaker 1: remember if some of it or not. It's Charlie's best. Yes, wait,

914
00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:17,200
Speaker 1: and I was thinking of well when you said, I

915
00:54:17,280 --> 00:54:24,600
Speaker 1: was thinking of Tully Yeah, yeah, yeah, and like so

916
00:54:25,280 --> 00:54:30,440
Speaker 1: um again like kind of secretly a comedy. Definitely secretly

917
00:54:30,480 --> 00:54:33,640
Speaker 1: a comedy, but like never trying to be funny, just

918
00:54:33,800 --> 00:54:36,040
Speaker 1: like it's puts the characters in situations that feel so

919
00:54:36,239 --> 00:54:39,960
Speaker 1: real that it's funny. But and it's definitely I mean

920
00:54:40,040 --> 00:54:42,640
Speaker 1: it's it's it's categorized on at least Wikipedia as a

921
00:54:42,680 --> 00:54:45,760
Speaker 1: comedy drama film, but it's it takes a really interesting

922
00:54:45,840 --> 00:54:49,840
Speaker 1: turn and it's again it's Charlie's who's stunning and Mackenzie

923
00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:53,880
Speaker 1: Davis totally. I think that also, like the like just

924
00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:56,560
Speaker 1: kind of thinking more about this influence in my own life.

925
00:54:57,200 --> 00:55:00,640
Speaker 1: I really do feel like often I really don't know

926
00:55:00,680 --> 00:55:04,080
Speaker 1: where it comes from, but like a lot of shame

927
00:55:04,800 --> 00:55:10,360
Speaker 1: about liking comedy and being associated with comedy and like

928
00:55:10,840 --> 00:55:13,600
Speaker 1: wanting to do it and I don't know what it is. Well,

929
00:55:14,200 --> 00:55:16,719
Speaker 1: so let's try and unpack it. Well, do you guys

930
00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:22,960
Speaker 1: feel this way at all? Always? Always No, Matt's lying, No,

931
00:55:23,239 --> 00:55:25,680
Speaker 1: I don't feel guilt about doing this. I will say

932
00:55:25,719 --> 00:55:29,680
Speaker 1: this shame shame I used to be. I used to

933
00:55:29,840 --> 00:55:32,080
Speaker 1: not say I was a comedian because I was. I

934
00:55:32,160 --> 00:55:36,040
Speaker 1: thought that sounded presumptuous and I thought I I still

935
00:55:36,120 --> 00:55:37,800
Speaker 1: to this day have a hard time getting out the

936
00:55:37,840 --> 00:55:40,400
Speaker 1: words like I'm a comedian because I think that that

937
00:55:40,640 --> 00:55:43,239
Speaker 1: means that you think you're funny. And I guess like

938
00:55:43,560 --> 00:55:47,359
Speaker 1: there's something untoward about saying that I am someone who

939
00:55:47,520 --> 00:55:50,200
Speaker 1: who lives their life doing it. So probably I should

940
00:55:50,239 --> 00:55:52,360
Speaker 1: be able to say it. Yeah, yeah, So also, just

941
00:55:52,560 --> 00:55:54,800
Speaker 1: not to editorialize, but yes you do feel shame it

942
00:55:54,880 --> 00:55:59,920
Speaker 1: so but but but but you but you're able to

943
00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:02,160
Speaker 1: say right away that you feel shamed doing it. What

944
00:56:02,480 --> 00:56:05,120
Speaker 1: For For me, it's that working in a place like

945
00:56:05,360 --> 00:56:09,040
Speaker 1: s and Now, where um everyone is able to evaluate

946
00:56:09,160 --> 00:56:12,080
Speaker 1: you on a granular level, whether or not you have

947
00:56:12,280 --> 00:56:16,279
Speaker 1: six you you are funny because what happens, at least

948
00:56:16,320 --> 00:56:18,759
Speaker 1: with s and or with most comedies, it's like the

949
00:56:19,560 --> 00:56:21,600
Speaker 1: it's sink or swim no matter what it's it's like

950
00:56:21,920 --> 00:56:24,960
Speaker 1: either either the audience thinks either one person thinks you're

951
00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:28,960
Speaker 1: funny or or you're that you're not completely almost always

952
00:56:29,000 --> 00:56:32,520
Speaker 1: a binary thing, and then they let you know either way.

953
00:56:33,280 --> 00:56:37,200
Speaker 1: And then the fact that people are so quick to

954
00:56:37,560 --> 00:56:42,880
Speaker 1: evaluate that and then tell me, um, it feels like

955
00:56:43,320 --> 00:56:46,440
Speaker 1: like feels too available. It feels like you're shame has

956
00:56:46,520 --> 00:56:51,800
Speaker 1: to do it completely. It is completely and everyone else no, no, no, no.

957
00:56:51,920 --> 00:56:54,239
Speaker 1: But my shame has to do with like, sorry, my

958
00:56:54,320 --> 00:56:59,600
Speaker 1: shame has to do with people, um being able to

959
00:56:59,800 --> 00:57:02,719
Speaker 1: like m yeah and someone yeah, my shame. My shame

960
00:57:02,760 --> 00:57:05,600
Speaker 1: has to do with people like thinking that they can

961
00:57:05,680 --> 00:57:07,400
Speaker 1: decide for me whether or not I am good at

962
00:57:07,480 --> 00:57:10,120
Speaker 1: this and they can they can't and they don't and

963
00:57:10,200 --> 00:57:12,239
Speaker 1: like I don't. For the most part, it doesn't affect me,

964
00:57:12,760 --> 00:57:14,759
Speaker 1: but sometimes it does. And that's and the shame kind

965
00:57:14,800 --> 00:57:18,840
Speaker 1: of grows from there, from like the thought that like, oh,

966
00:57:19,320 --> 00:57:21,320
Speaker 1: this person doesn't think I'm funny? Do I care? And

967
00:57:21,360 --> 00:57:23,160
Speaker 1: if I if the answer is kind of yes, And

968
00:57:23,240 --> 00:57:25,960
Speaker 1: that's when I start to feel a shame. Yeah, it

969
00:57:26,080 --> 00:57:28,240
Speaker 1: is like a it's like a high risk, high reward

970
00:57:28,720 --> 00:57:32,320
Speaker 1: kind of situation. Always like in trying to make somebody laugh,

971
00:57:32,480 --> 00:57:36,680
Speaker 1: because if you try to be funny and you are

972
00:57:36,760 --> 00:57:44,520
Speaker 1: not funny, then there's nothing that's more degrading than that feeling.

973
00:57:45,200 --> 00:57:47,480
Speaker 1: But if you try to be funny and you make

974
00:57:47,520 --> 00:57:50,120
Speaker 1: a bunch of people laugh, there is truely your God,

975
00:57:50,800 --> 00:57:53,880
Speaker 1: your God, there's no higher feeling than that. I mean,

976
00:57:53,960 --> 00:57:55,840
Speaker 1: this is like, this is like the shitty part of

977
00:57:55,880 --> 00:57:58,280
Speaker 1: working at SNL, which is and like it took me

978
00:57:58,280 --> 00:58:01,120
Speaker 1: a while to realize that everyone feels this. Every person

979
00:58:01,360 --> 00:58:03,520
Speaker 1: at that place has felt this way. Who has ever

980
00:58:03,640 --> 00:58:05,880
Speaker 1: worked there has felt this way. Which is like if

981
00:58:05,880 --> 00:58:08,560
Speaker 1: you like to have a thing go badly at table

982
00:58:08,600 --> 00:58:12,000
Speaker 1: read and then the thought that the thought that you

983
00:58:12,160 --> 00:58:15,720
Speaker 1: end up at the death the terminus is everyone thinks

984
00:58:15,720 --> 00:58:19,840
Speaker 1: I'm a bad person. Everyone here thinks I'm a bad person,

985
00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:22,320
Speaker 1: and they don't like I. They don't like me, and

986
00:58:22,360 --> 00:58:25,040
Speaker 1: they never liked me. It's like that, like that, like

987
00:58:25,120 --> 00:58:29,720
Speaker 1: the shame, like like failure is a seed crystal. Failure

988
00:58:29,760 --> 00:58:32,000
Speaker 1: in like a single moment is a seed crystal that

989
00:58:32,120 --> 00:58:34,960
Speaker 1: blossoms into this like crazy lottict of like oh my god,

990
00:58:35,040 --> 00:58:36,760
Speaker 1: I'm bad, I'm bad. I'm bad. I'm bad. I'm a

991
00:58:36,800 --> 00:58:39,320
Speaker 1: bad person. That's the crazy thing about it too, though,

992
00:58:39,440 --> 00:58:43,960
Speaker 1: is that I feel like that like danger of oh

993
00:58:44,160 --> 00:58:45,800
Speaker 1: is this going to make who someone laugh? Or is

994
00:58:45,840 --> 00:58:48,160
Speaker 1: this going to be the worst mode of my life?

995
00:58:48,800 --> 00:58:53,480
Speaker 1: Is true? Even of even in the lowest circumstances, like

996
00:58:54,040 --> 00:58:56,440
Speaker 1: at a show with seven people, like it feels like

997
00:58:56,480 --> 00:59:00,760
Speaker 1: a life or death. It's high risk, higher ward all

998
00:59:00,840 --> 00:59:03,760
Speaker 1: the time. And I think that feeling is I don't,

999
00:59:03,800 --> 00:59:05,760
Speaker 1: I don't know, like it's it's built in for me,

1000
00:59:06,240 --> 00:59:10,400
Speaker 1: Like I never felt proud of like being in pursuit

1001
00:59:10,480 --> 00:59:15,280
Speaker 1: of comedy and don't feel particularly proud or like, you know,

1002
00:59:15,920 --> 00:59:19,360
Speaker 1: able to be honest about being like in comedy and

1003
00:59:19,480 --> 00:59:22,320
Speaker 1: like a comedy writer, like that always feels like hell.

1004
00:59:22,520 --> 00:59:25,280
Speaker 1: And I don't And I think it's it's tied to that,

1005
00:59:25,360 --> 00:59:28,760
Speaker 1: but I kind of still don't really understand why. Well,

1006
00:59:29,480 --> 00:59:31,480
Speaker 1: is it fair for me to say that your success

1007
00:59:31,560 --> 00:59:36,440
Speaker 1: has happened quickly? Yeah? So I think that's the email

1008
00:59:36,840 --> 00:59:44,439
Speaker 1: read of meling. But three years ago, I don't feel

1009
00:59:44,480 --> 00:59:48,080
Speaker 1: you grovel. I think you and wait, this is a thing.

1010
00:59:48,160 --> 00:59:50,560
Speaker 1: I feel like, I feel like though this is a thing.

1011
00:59:50,680 --> 00:59:54,560
Speaker 1: Though it's like you do feel you feel you're beating

1012
00:59:54,640 --> 01:00:00,920
Speaker 1: up yourself completely this is helpful for me and Matt.

1013
01:00:01,040 --> 01:00:02,920
Speaker 1: You're saying like you feel shame when you beat up

1014
01:00:02,960 --> 01:00:05,720
Speaker 1: on yourself because you don't want me to be your doctor,

1015
01:00:06,080 --> 01:00:08,000
Speaker 1: you don't want me to be your lawyer. I can't

1016
01:00:08,040 --> 01:00:10,000
Speaker 1: do anything else. What I can do is be a

1017
01:00:10,080 --> 01:00:12,840
Speaker 1: clown in the square, like I'm good at that, and

1018
01:00:13,320 --> 01:00:18,880
Speaker 1: so are you both to the highest level, celest I,

1019
01:00:19,520 --> 01:00:21,960
Speaker 1: this is just I just I guessed them up all

1020
01:00:22,000 --> 01:00:26,720
Speaker 1: the fucking time. But I and I think celest should

1021
01:00:26,720 --> 01:00:30,160
Speaker 1: be very proud of the scenes you did so well.

1022
01:00:30,200 --> 01:00:32,160
Speaker 1: I mean for a first year writer that certainly was

1023
01:00:32,240 --> 01:00:35,360
Speaker 1: not not even a story here from the girls, not

1024
01:00:35,520 --> 01:00:37,200
Speaker 1: even for a first To take the take for a

1025
01:00:37,200 --> 01:00:39,760
Speaker 1: first year writer out of it, it's like, yeah, someone

1026
01:00:39,800 --> 01:00:44,000
Speaker 1: who like immediately made connections with people in meaningful ways,

1027
01:00:44,120 --> 01:00:47,320
Speaker 1: who who knew how to work well in different environments

1028
01:00:47,400 --> 01:00:52,040
Speaker 1: with different people, Like it was just like on inspiring

1029
01:00:52,080 --> 01:00:53,400
Speaker 1: and a way that I was just like wow, I

1030
01:00:53,480 --> 01:00:55,360
Speaker 1: like all of us were just like this is incredible,

1031
01:00:55,680 --> 01:01:00,360
Speaker 1: God bless anyway, Wait talk about this. Let me go

1032
01:01:00,400 --> 01:01:03,480
Speaker 1: back to Junior really quickly. Talk about Juno. Was it

1033
01:01:03,640 --> 01:01:05,400
Speaker 1: was it a quit? Was it a quick ignition when

1034
01:01:05,440 --> 01:01:07,160
Speaker 1: you saw Juno that you're like I want to do

1035
01:01:07,400 --> 01:01:09,280
Speaker 1: I want to do this kind of thing where I

1036
01:01:09,320 --> 01:01:11,480
Speaker 1: want to write. Well, I think it was reading the

1037
01:01:11,600 --> 01:01:16,320
Speaker 1: script and then seeing it and feeling it's like moved

1038
01:01:16,520 --> 01:01:18,919
Speaker 1: by this the movie in the way that I felt

1039
01:01:18,920 --> 01:01:21,520
Speaker 1: movement the script that made me understand like, Okay, these

1040
01:01:21,520 --> 01:01:26,160
Speaker 1: things are connected, something's going on here um And I

1041
01:01:26,480 --> 01:01:34,000
Speaker 1: think I like really like connected to that that translation, Yes,

1042
01:01:34,920 --> 01:01:37,560
Speaker 1: was there was there was Was there a moment that

1043
01:01:37,760 --> 01:01:41,080
Speaker 1: any of you remember where you were first conscious of

1044
01:01:41,160 --> 01:01:44,840
Speaker 1: who was writing something that you enjoyed, like like where

1045
01:01:44,840 --> 01:01:46,560
Speaker 1: you were paying attention to the credits in a way

1046
01:01:46,600 --> 01:01:50,080
Speaker 1: that was meaningful for me. I think that was like,

1047
01:01:51,040 --> 01:01:52,680
Speaker 1: and this is such a basic answer, but it was.

1048
01:01:52,840 --> 01:01:55,280
Speaker 1: I think it was Mean Girls where I was like

1049
01:01:55,320 --> 01:01:57,480
Speaker 1: watching us A Nol so so much and I was

1050
01:01:57,600 --> 01:02:00,440
Speaker 1: like just like excited by the fact that tinafe was

1051
01:02:00,480 --> 01:02:02,000
Speaker 1: writing this movie and I was just like, oh, she

1052
01:02:02,120 --> 01:02:04,200
Speaker 1: wrote this, and it's it's got Lindsay along. It's like

1053
01:02:04,480 --> 01:02:07,120
Speaker 1: like all of it appealed to me in a way,

1054
01:02:07,520 --> 01:02:09,240
Speaker 1: and then like it was meaningful to me that it

1055
01:02:09,320 --> 01:02:13,840
Speaker 1: was like, oh, she wrote this, and she's behind all

1056
01:02:13,960 --> 01:02:16,120
Speaker 1: these jokes and the story and the way that like

1057
01:02:16,320 --> 01:02:20,120
Speaker 1: things happen and this is all like through one person.

1058
01:02:21,480 --> 01:02:24,200
Speaker 1: What about do you remember? For me? It was, um,

1059
01:02:24,960 --> 01:02:27,760
Speaker 1: the first time I ever realized that it could be

1060
01:02:27,880 --> 01:02:30,600
Speaker 1: a job you could have. Of course I understood that

1061
01:02:30,640 --> 01:02:33,680
Speaker 1: people wrote movies and television shows. But the first time

1062
01:02:33,720 --> 01:02:36,400
Speaker 1: I ever thought, oh, wait, that's a job I would

1063
01:02:36,440 --> 01:02:40,360
Speaker 1: like to do is when I was watching Lost, Like

1064
01:02:40,440 --> 01:02:43,080
Speaker 1: I remember there was a scene where there was a

1065
01:02:43,160 --> 01:02:46,600
Speaker 1: scene where it was episode six of season one. It

1066
01:02:46,680 --> 01:02:48,320
Speaker 1: was called House of the Rising Sun. It was with

1067
01:02:48,480 --> 01:02:50,800
Speaker 1: Son and Jim, and I remember there was a scene

1068
01:02:50,800 --> 01:02:52,960
Speaker 1: at the end of the episode and it was Son

1069
01:02:53,240 --> 01:02:56,720
Speaker 1: was going to leave Jim at the airport and she

1070
01:02:57,000 --> 01:02:59,000
Speaker 1: was walking towards the car that she hadn't she had

1071
01:02:59,080 --> 01:03:01,200
Speaker 1: arranged to be there, and she turns over her shoulder

1072
01:03:01,320 --> 01:03:05,120
Speaker 1: engine Um Daniel Dake Kim, the hottest man in the world,

1073
01:03:05,680 --> 01:03:09,240
Speaker 1: lifts up a flower like it's it's like an orchid

1074
01:03:09,320 --> 01:03:12,080
Speaker 1: or something like Son's favorite flower. And then young and

1075
01:03:12,160 --> 01:03:14,520
Speaker 1: Kim who played Son, turned around and she you can

1076
01:03:14,560 --> 01:03:16,479
Speaker 1: see in her eyes she makes the decision to stay.

1077
01:03:17,040 --> 01:03:18,360
Speaker 1: And then they get on the plane that they crashed

1078
01:03:18,360 --> 01:03:21,040
Speaker 1: on the island Fate. And I was just like and

1079
01:03:21,600 --> 01:03:23,640
Speaker 1: that was like a flashback, and I loved the flashback

1080
01:03:23,720 --> 01:03:26,120
Speaker 1: device of that first season of the show. And you know,

1081
01:03:26,640 --> 01:03:29,480
Speaker 1: it's such a good first season of television, especially for

1082
01:03:29,560 --> 01:03:33,919
Speaker 1: someone who's fourteen. Um. But I remember after that episode ended,

1083
01:03:34,280 --> 01:03:37,480
Speaker 1: I was like, God, that was so good, and next

1084
01:03:37,560 --> 01:03:39,400
Speaker 1: week there's gonna be another one and I'm gonna find

1085
01:03:39,440 --> 01:03:42,160
Speaker 1: out more about these characters. And that's when I was like,

1086
01:03:43,080 --> 01:03:45,520
Speaker 1: you know, realizing, like and I would like to be

1087
01:03:45,640 --> 01:03:48,040
Speaker 1: a part of making that. Like that was one that

1088
01:03:48,240 --> 01:03:50,480
Speaker 1: that was when the I was it was everything. It

1089
01:03:50,600 --> 01:03:53,080
Speaker 1: was the writing, it was the directing, it was the acting,

1090
01:03:53,160 --> 01:03:55,480
Speaker 1: it was the music. And I just remember being like, oh,

1091
01:03:55,560 --> 01:03:58,000
Speaker 1: I want to be a part of making television or

1092
01:03:58,080 --> 01:04:03,200
Speaker 1: making this this this movie to TV whatever, because I

1093
01:04:03,600 --> 01:04:05,960
Speaker 1: now I'm getting it's clicking for me that it can

1094
01:04:06,040 --> 01:04:08,960
Speaker 1: be created. For some reason I watched I was like

1095
01:04:09,040 --> 01:04:11,480
Speaker 1: that child that watched everything as if it wasn't a vacuum,

1096
01:04:11,520 --> 01:04:13,640
Speaker 1: like movies were just this magical thing or whatever, and

1097
01:04:13,760 --> 01:04:15,960
Speaker 1: that that was the first show where it clicked for me.

1098
01:04:16,080 --> 01:04:18,720
Speaker 1: And I did start to note like who was creating

1099
01:04:18,760 --> 01:04:21,520
Speaker 1: television shows? And I would look up interviews with like

1100
01:04:21,840 --> 01:04:23,920
Speaker 1: whoever was the creator of the show or the writer

1101
01:04:24,000 --> 01:04:25,920
Speaker 1: of particular episode, to the point where when I got

1102
01:04:25,960 --> 01:04:28,000
Speaker 1: to college, I was like what I was studying and

1103
01:04:28,040 --> 01:04:30,320
Speaker 1: I was particularly looking at like you know who I

1104
01:04:30,360 --> 01:04:32,560
Speaker 1: looked up to the most, What about u celst? What

1105
01:04:32,640 --> 01:04:37,320
Speaker 1: about lest? For me, it was and you know how

1106
01:04:37,440 --> 01:04:41,040
Speaker 1: in in the at the Oscars some years during this

1107
01:04:41,240 --> 01:04:43,920
Speaker 1: like Screenwriting Awards, it would be like a clip for

1108
01:04:44,040 --> 01:04:46,960
Speaker 1: the movie and the script would be it would be

1109
01:04:47,000 --> 01:04:54,560
Speaker 1: like bedroom, she walks in and places hand. I think

1110
01:04:54,640 --> 01:05:01,680
Speaker 1: they're extremely morny and I really think are smartly demystify

1111
01:05:01,840 --> 01:05:06,560
Speaker 1: the process a little bit of page to stage in

1112
01:05:06,640 --> 01:05:10,920
Speaker 1: a way that I found extremely inspiring and like and

1113
01:05:11,120 --> 01:05:14,200
Speaker 1: again it's that control. It's that control of like the

1114
01:05:14,400 --> 01:05:17,320
Speaker 1: movement from the script to this green It's like, Okay,

1115
01:05:17,400 --> 01:05:20,920
Speaker 1: there's something in that like in between it being typed

1116
01:05:21,000 --> 01:05:25,000
Speaker 1: out like on your little computer and then seeing it

1117
01:05:25,120 --> 01:05:30,040
Speaker 1: physically like materially. Um, it's I think that's really exciting.

1118
01:05:31,360 --> 01:05:34,680
Speaker 1: And I find that kind of actually extending at a snow.

1119
01:05:35,720 --> 01:05:37,840
Speaker 1: It is kind of you know what I did I

1120
01:05:37,960 --> 01:05:41,320
Speaker 1: tell you guys this, either of you. The fact that

1121
01:05:41,400 --> 01:05:44,080
Speaker 1: I got Stone and watched pretended to sit in January

1122
01:05:44,960 --> 01:05:47,480
Speaker 1: in my bad and then I told myself, I'm gonna

1123
01:05:47,520 --> 01:05:50,600
Speaker 1: play her on update and then it happened. I'm like,

1124
01:05:50,960 --> 01:05:53,160
Speaker 1: that makes me horny for me, not for myself, but

1125
01:05:53,240 --> 01:05:55,720
Speaker 1: just for that process, right of, Like, oh my god,

1126
01:05:55,720 --> 01:05:59,040
Speaker 1: it can happen that way. Yeah, And aren't I so

1127
01:05:59,200 --> 01:06:01,880
Speaker 1: lucky that I have that available to me? And isn't

1128
01:06:01,880 --> 01:06:05,120
Speaker 1: every writer who works and who's working right now, like,

1129
01:06:05,160 --> 01:06:08,480
Speaker 1: aren't they so lucky? And like I think it's totally

1130
01:06:08,760 --> 01:06:11,320
Speaker 1: there was like, um, when you remember years ago when

1131
01:06:11,360 --> 01:06:13,960
Speaker 1: I did that Star Wars sketch for above above Average,

1132
01:06:14,760 --> 01:06:16,200
Speaker 1: Like that was the moment where I had that where

1133
01:06:16,200 --> 01:06:17,920
Speaker 1: I was like, they will never put me in the

1134
01:06:17,920 --> 01:06:20,320
Speaker 1: Star Wars, but I will put myself in a Star

1135
01:06:20,400 --> 01:06:23,560
Speaker 1: Wars adjacent sketch where I will get to fight with

1136
01:06:23,600 --> 01:06:25,840
Speaker 1: a lightsaber. And it was just and then I got

1137
01:06:26,040 --> 01:06:27,520
Speaker 1: and I was watching it and I was like, oh,

1138
01:06:28,080 --> 01:06:30,120
Speaker 1: I thought with a lightsaber. The sketch is called we

1139
01:06:30,160 --> 01:06:33,880
Speaker 1: Meet Again, and you did that and you wrote that, Yeah,

1140
01:06:33,920 --> 01:06:35,880
Speaker 1: it was cool that well, that was something I discovered

1141
01:06:35,960 --> 01:06:38,840
Speaker 1: like doing sketch in college too. It was like, oh,

1142
01:06:39,280 --> 01:06:43,080
Speaker 1: you can do anything you want if you write, yes,

1143
01:06:43,480 --> 01:06:48,160
Speaker 1: it's cool, it's horny. It's romantic where you're like, I

1144
01:06:48,480 --> 01:06:51,360
Speaker 1: kind of am a little bit curious about that. I

1145
01:06:51,480 --> 01:06:54,160
Speaker 1: have like a little idea about that, and then it

1146
01:06:54,280 --> 01:06:58,720
Speaker 1: happens like it's like it feels so good. Yeah, oh

1147
01:06:58,840 --> 01:07:01,680
Speaker 1: I love this. That is horny. We're all really horny

1148
01:07:01,800 --> 01:07:05,440
Speaker 1: right now hearing it about writing. I don't think about

1149
01:07:05,440 --> 01:07:10,320
Speaker 1: how the Oscars production steeped into my little child grain

1150
01:07:10,760 --> 01:07:13,640
Speaker 1: What do you? What are you? What have you? What

1151
01:07:13,800 --> 01:07:15,960
Speaker 1: are you watching or have you watched recently that you're

1152
01:07:16,000 --> 01:07:20,920
Speaker 1: like horny for the writing of? Oh shit, Um, all

1153
01:07:20,960 --> 01:07:23,680
Speaker 1: I'm watching right now is Top Chefs And which is

1154
01:07:23,760 --> 01:07:27,840
Speaker 1: what the writing of? What? Like? Who writes what pads?

1155
01:07:28,640 --> 01:07:33,880
Speaker 1: What's what's the writing process? I'm wondering. I think that

1156
01:07:34,000 --> 01:07:35,920
Speaker 1: if they don't have a room, they definitely have like

1157
01:07:36,040 --> 01:07:38,640
Speaker 1: contributing producers who are like, here's an idea for a bit,

1158
01:07:38,920 --> 01:07:40,520
Speaker 1: and then you know what, they probably do have. What

1159
01:07:40,640 --> 01:07:42,520
Speaker 1: we had on Hot Dog was we had Neil Casey

1160
01:07:43,280 --> 01:07:46,960
Speaker 1: and U and also Nicole Thurman, so they were right,

1161
01:07:47,120 --> 01:07:49,760
Speaker 1: they were writing it together. So shows like that do

1162
01:07:49,960 --> 01:07:52,040
Speaker 1: have like comedy writers that comp with the funny stuff

1163
01:07:52,080 --> 01:07:55,080
Speaker 1: that promises not to say that Podma isn't coming up

1164
01:07:55,080 --> 01:07:59,480
Speaker 1: with whiz bangs of her own. Oh she is. She

1165
01:07:59,760 --> 01:08:03,560
Speaker 1: is a writer. She writes the show the way that

1166
01:08:03,720 --> 01:08:07,400
Speaker 1: she keeps the keeps the show running of You know,

1167
01:08:07,600 --> 01:08:09,760
Speaker 1: now let's go to Judge's table. At Judges' table, we

1168
01:08:09,800 --> 01:08:12,280
Speaker 1: will be talking like she is. That's plodding, you know,

1169
01:08:12,400 --> 01:08:13,960
Speaker 1: the way that you're getting right now, you are a

1170
01:08:14,080 --> 01:08:19,479
Speaker 1: pot maholic. I love her and I appreciate what she

1171
01:08:19,560 --> 01:08:22,640
Speaker 1: has done for me. She has done it all and

1172
01:08:22,800 --> 01:08:25,320
Speaker 1: tastes the nation to in her. In her Hulu docuseries,

1173
01:08:25,920 --> 01:08:27,880
Speaker 1: you can tell she is like the guiding hand and

1174
01:08:27,960 --> 01:08:30,719
Speaker 1: that especial even I think I think in the writing

1175
01:08:30,800 --> 01:08:33,200
Speaker 1: to like a lot of it is very like it's

1176
01:08:33,240 --> 01:08:36,479
Speaker 1: like a prose poem that she's narrating, and it's like

1177
01:08:37,000 --> 01:08:41,080
Speaker 1: she must have written this in some fashion as a writer.

1178
01:08:41,439 --> 01:08:43,519
Speaker 1: I just think that she's so good at what she

1179
01:08:43,680 --> 01:08:49,000
Speaker 1: does that it comes out like poetry. It flows well.

1180
01:08:49,280 --> 01:08:51,080
Speaker 1: I mean, when she was on this show, she was

1181
01:08:51,120 --> 01:08:54,120
Speaker 1: talking about the Book of Spices that she wrote. You know,

1182
01:08:54,240 --> 01:08:57,960
Speaker 1: she has every spice in the world and she has

1183
01:08:58,000 --> 01:09:01,759
Speaker 1: it's like essentially like a glossary that she wrote of spices.

1184
01:09:01,840 --> 01:09:04,200
Speaker 1: And she was like, because because I didn't she mention

1185
01:09:04,280 --> 01:09:06,320
Speaker 1: that she has like an experienced power or something, or

1186
01:09:06,360 --> 01:09:09,439
Speaker 1: like a super it has like super advanced palate that's

1187
01:09:09,439 --> 01:09:14,400
Speaker 1: like genetically gifted in some sense savant for tasting food. Oh.

1188
01:09:14,720 --> 01:09:17,320
Speaker 1: That that honestly must be why they have that challenge

1189
01:09:17,360 --> 01:09:20,640
Speaker 1: to read every season of like the smelling the of

1190
01:09:20,720 --> 01:09:23,200
Speaker 1: the different spices. You know, they blindfold them and they

1191
01:09:23,439 --> 01:09:27,000
Speaker 1: give them like, you know, thirty ingredients and you can

1192
01:09:27,080 --> 01:09:29,200
Speaker 1: only use the one that you get right, and she

1193
01:09:29,680 --> 01:09:31,960
Speaker 1: like you can. You can see the sparkle in her

1194
01:09:32,000 --> 01:09:36,120
Speaker 1: eye when they're doing the the little tasks that she

1195
01:09:36,320 --> 01:09:44,280
Speaker 1: likes his favorites. Mm hmm. If you're panis favorite, that's huge.

1196
01:09:47,040 --> 01:09:50,560
Speaker 1: It's good. It's really good. Are you guys watching. I

1197
01:09:50,680 --> 01:09:52,000
Speaker 1: hear this is a good one. I'm not watching, but

1198
01:09:52,040 --> 01:09:53,320
Speaker 1: I hear this is a great one. Good. I was

1199
01:09:53,360 --> 01:09:57,040
Speaker 1: just talking to Degree about there's like this episode. There's

1200
01:09:57,080 --> 01:09:58,960
Speaker 1: this episode where they did like a drive in theater

1201
01:09:58,960 --> 01:10:05,280
Speaker 1: because it's all COVID yes um restrictions, and yeah, they

1202
01:10:05,320 --> 01:10:07,400
Speaker 1: do an episode where they're like they're like at a

1203
01:10:07,520 --> 01:10:10,640
Speaker 1: drive in and the chefs have to make like kind

1204
01:10:10,680 --> 01:10:15,400
Speaker 1: of drive in movie friendly snacks and to introduce each

1205
01:10:15,920 --> 01:10:19,639
Speaker 1: The competition was to make a food for different genres

1206
01:10:19,680 --> 01:10:22,640
Speaker 1: of film and to introduce the genre. Pama does a

1207
01:10:22,720 --> 01:10:26,479
Speaker 1: little I'm gonna go ahead and call them sketches. She

1208
01:10:26,640 --> 01:10:30,200
Speaker 1: does a sketch free genre, and she is loving it.

1209
01:10:31,400 --> 01:10:35,040
Speaker 1: A sketch actress, she haunts. It's wonderful. It's the first

1210
01:10:35,080 --> 01:10:38,280
Speaker 1: season that isn't centered on the Caucasian palette, the Western

1211
01:10:39,000 --> 01:10:46,320
Speaker 1: or the Western palette. I'm going to start an important season. Yeah,

1212
01:10:46,400 --> 01:10:51,200
Speaker 1: it's important, as if every Top Chef season was not important.

1213
01:10:51,600 --> 01:10:55,920
Speaker 1: It's Portland's right. Yeah. So Gregory's around a bunch. Oh yeah,

1214
01:10:56,040 --> 01:11:01,200
Speaker 1: he around, cute, Kame is around and he is cool

1215
01:11:01,520 --> 01:11:05,960
Speaker 1: and hot. And Melissa Melissa, so all this so all?

1216
01:11:06,160 --> 01:11:08,080
Speaker 1: So is this this is the gag? Is that all

1217
01:11:08,160 --> 01:11:10,680
Speaker 1: the kind of iconic contestants of yesterdayere are all sort

1218
01:11:10,720 --> 01:11:18,439
Speaker 1: of judges now, yes, yes, Kristen is there too, honey. Yeah,

1219
01:11:18,600 --> 01:11:20,479
Speaker 1: And I can't. I just want to say, and I

1220
01:11:20,560 --> 01:11:23,679
Speaker 1: want to say, readers, read I'm gonna I'm gonna address this, readers.

1221
01:11:23,800 --> 01:11:26,400
Speaker 1: I do keep having a moment with my Internet that

1222
01:11:26,520 --> 01:11:28,240
Speaker 1: it drops in and out. And this is truly this

1223
01:11:28,360 --> 01:11:30,000
Speaker 1: is how you know that just like Top Chef, we

1224
01:11:30,040 --> 01:11:34,240
Speaker 1: are COVID too, because and this is like, it's really

1225
01:11:34,280 --> 01:11:36,519
Speaker 1: getting me going from my from my I don't think so, honey,

1226
01:11:36,520 --> 01:11:38,360
Speaker 1: because I was gonna do it on weekly bottoms. And

1227
01:11:38,439 --> 01:11:40,040
Speaker 1: if Spectrum Internet is going to make me do it

1228
01:11:40,120 --> 01:11:41,680
Speaker 1: on then now that's going to be the way it is.

1229
01:11:42,000 --> 01:11:43,760
Speaker 1: Because the fact of the matter is this is all

1230
01:11:43,840 --> 01:11:47,000
Speaker 1: Spectrum's fault because Verizon you don't get this, Verizon files,

1231
01:11:47,040 --> 01:11:49,840
Speaker 1: you don't get this drama. Yeah, the people have to

1232
01:11:49,960 --> 01:11:52,200
Speaker 1: know where we are at, and it is that we

1233
01:11:52,320 --> 01:11:55,479
Speaker 1: are all a little bit stressed about technology. And then

1234
01:11:55,680 --> 01:11:58,599
Speaker 1: I do think it's the undercurrent of of this episode.

1235
01:11:58,800 --> 01:12:02,679
Speaker 1: And yeah, and still will we rise and rise, Let's

1236
01:12:02,720 --> 01:12:04,920
Speaker 1: do a check in, let's do it. Che Bowen, how

1237
01:12:05,000 --> 01:12:07,599
Speaker 1: are you? How are you feeling? I feel okay because

1238
01:12:07,680 --> 01:12:09,840
Speaker 1: I this is actually a little scary for me because

1239
01:12:09,920 --> 01:12:12,439
Speaker 1: I'm staring at my Spectrum router and I'm like, this

1240
01:12:12,680 --> 01:12:16,360
Speaker 1: will turn on me someday, very soon, and I'm not

1241
01:12:16,520 --> 01:12:18,640
Speaker 1: looking forward to that, and I actually want to. I

1242
01:12:18,760 --> 01:12:23,680
Speaker 1: had the worst experience of my life. That was a

1243
01:12:23,760 --> 01:12:25,439
Speaker 1: dark day when I had just moved. So I just

1244
01:12:25,840 --> 01:12:29,880
Speaker 1: moved into my this apartment on April. Exhausted by that

1245
01:12:29,960 --> 01:12:31,599
Speaker 1: day because it was raining outside. It was a terrible

1246
01:12:31,640 --> 01:12:33,160
Speaker 1: day to move to the twenty two, I go back

1247
01:12:33,200 --> 01:12:35,840
Speaker 1: in to shoot stuff um all day, and then the

1248
01:12:35,920 --> 01:12:38,519
Speaker 1: twenty three I had to go and make sure my

1249
01:12:38,840 --> 01:12:40,439
Speaker 1: my wife I was set up in my house because

1250
01:12:40,439 --> 01:12:41,840
Speaker 1: I did do a bunch of stuff in my house,

1251
01:12:42,680 --> 01:12:45,840
Speaker 1: and then went to the Spectrum place. Sat there for

1252
01:12:46,320 --> 01:12:50,479
Speaker 1: an hour and a half because no one because the

1253
01:12:50,600 --> 01:12:53,559
Speaker 1: people who there was two people working and they were

1254
01:12:53,760 --> 01:12:55,400
Speaker 1: none of them knew what they were doing. And it

1255
01:12:55,479 --> 01:12:57,000
Speaker 1: was just like it was like not their fault. It

1256
01:12:57,120 --> 01:12:59,880
Speaker 1: was just like Spectrum as a company is bad and

1257
01:13:00,600 --> 01:13:03,559
Speaker 1: does not set their does not set their employees up

1258
01:13:03,640 --> 01:13:06,439
Speaker 1: to do their jobs well. And so it's like I

1259
01:13:06,760 --> 01:13:09,599
Speaker 1: just I think Spectrum as a company is um as

1260
01:13:09,680 --> 01:13:12,599
Speaker 1: pernicious as they come. It's as Peter I was gonna say,

1261
01:13:12,800 --> 01:13:16,639
Speaker 1: as pernicious as they come. I literally was. And also

1262
01:13:16,680 --> 01:13:18,040
Speaker 1: I want to say something, and I want to I

1263
01:13:18,040 --> 01:13:20,519
Speaker 1: want to sort of just cut through because celest Us

1264
01:13:20,560 --> 01:13:21,960
Speaker 1: bo and how he's feeling, and so I'm just gonna

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01:13:22,000 --> 01:13:24,720
Speaker 1: offer how I'm feeling. No, I was gonna go to

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01:13:24,800 --> 01:13:27,040
Speaker 1: you next, Matt, how are you feeling? I could tell

1267
01:13:27,760 --> 01:13:29,880
Speaker 1: I know what it's like to be on a zoom

1268
01:13:30,000 --> 01:13:33,519
Speaker 1: and one person is having the technical issues, and I

1269
01:13:33,720 --> 01:13:36,320
Speaker 1: know that, regardless of the fact that it has nothing

1270
01:13:36,400 --> 01:13:38,560
Speaker 1: to do with me as a person, that people on

1271
01:13:38,680 --> 01:13:42,960
Speaker 1: the zoom feel irritated with that person, and I know

1272
01:13:43,280 --> 01:13:46,400
Speaker 1: it makes me upset. It makes me upset because I

1273
01:13:46,479 --> 01:13:49,280
Speaker 1: don't want to be the person bringing tension to the zoom.

1274
01:13:49,560 --> 01:13:52,080
Speaker 1: But I know that this constant like give and take

1275
01:13:52,160 --> 01:13:54,519
Speaker 1: of my internet is I can hear in Bowen's voice

1276
01:13:54,760 --> 01:13:59,040
Speaker 1: driving him crazy. It just takes me out of It

1277
01:13:59,200 --> 01:14:02,560
Speaker 1: takes me out of this conversational sort of cadence that

1278
01:14:02,680 --> 01:14:04,560
Speaker 1: we have. I know, and I have nothing to do

1279
01:14:04,680 --> 01:14:07,040
Speaker 1: with that. We've had to feel so many things. No,

1280
01:14:07,280 --> 01:14:10,719
Speaker 1: it's okay. We've all been everybody has been that person,

1281
01:14:10,880 --> 01:14:12,839
Speaker 1: and in fact, I think it was me at the beginning.

1282
01:14:13,479 --> 01:14:19,360
Speaker 1: Remember a guy no, no, no, no, you remember even

1283
01:14:19,400 --> 01:14:23,559
Speaker 1: a shining example of excellence in this podcast episode when

1284
01:14:23,560 --> 01:14:24,800
Speaker 1: you need to check in with's the last How are

1285
01:14:24,840 --> 01:14:27,479
Speaker 1: you feeling? How are you feeling good? I'm feeling good

1286
01:14:27,560 --> 01:14:31,280
Speaker 1: because it was me in the beginning, and that's okay.

1287
01:14:31,960 --> 01:14:36,719
Speaker 1: And you don't have to protect me anymore. I am strong.

1288
01:14:37,560 --> 01:14:42,240
Speaker 1: I just want to protect you because you're coming up

1289
01:14:42,240 --> 01:14:45,479
Speaker 1: in comedy, and the rise has been meteoric, and I

1290
01:14:45,640 --> 01:14:48,400
Speaker 1: just I see the wolves bone and I know about

1291
01:14:48,400 --> 01:14:51,240
Speaker 1: the wolves. The wolves are out to hunt. I don't

1292
01:14:51,240 --> 01:14:53,400
Speaker 1: want the wolves to sort of come for you. And

1293
01:14:53,479 --> 01:14:55,960
Speaker 1: so that's why, that's why I feel very protective of

1294
01:14:56,479 --> 01:14:59,080
Speaker 1: because you're someone that I immediately I saw I saw

1295
01:14:59,160 --> 01:15:03,320
Speaker 1: on that stage Toronto, and I knew. I knew from

1296
01:15:03,360 --> 01:15:06,439
Speaker 1: then on. I was like, that's my baby, and the

1297
01:15:06,520 --> 01:15:09,880
Speaker 1: wolves better not take Maybe if the wolves took my baby,

1298
01:15:09,880 --> 01:15:12,800
Speaker 1: I'd be so upset. I'd be like Meryl Streep in

1299
01:15:12,840 --> 01:15:16,040
Speaker 1: that movie What movie to Cry in the Dark Never

1300
01:15:16,160 --> 01:15:18,560
Speaker 1: the Dingle at her baby and they were like, no,

1301
01:15:18,840 --> 01:15:20,599
Speaker 1: you killed the baby, and she was like, I swear

1302
01:15:20,680 --> 01:15:23,519
Speaker 1: to you, I swear to God the dingle ate my baby.

1303
01:15:23,520 --> 01:15:26,000
Speaker 1: And there's a famous scene where she says the dingo

1304
01:15:26,280 --> 01:15:29,200
Speaker 1: ate my baby. And can you imagine just reading that

1305
01:15:29,320 --> 01:15:31,800
Speaker 1: script and being like, yeah, let me let me do this,

1306
01:15:32,040 --> 01:15:35,520
Speaker 1: and then not only doing it, but earning an OSCAR nomination.

1307
01:15:39,640 --> 01:15:44,040
Speaker 1: I can't. And I know you. I think you're so talented.

1308
01:15:44,080 --> 01:15:47,280
Speaker 1: I don't think your Meryl Streep. Thank you, Oh my god,

1309
01:15:47,880 --> 01:15:50,759
Speaker 1: and thank you. And that shows me that you respect

1310
01:15:50,880 --> 01:15:54,360
Speaker 1: me to hear that the same. It's so cutting and

1311
01:15:54,479 --> 01:15:57,960
Speaker 1: so true. I think not even cunning is just respectful

1312
01:15:58,080 --> 01:16:00,519
Speaker 1: to say the truth. I think that you are still last.

1313
01:16:00,920 --> 01:16:04,840
Speaker 1: Mery is Meryl. There we go, there we go, there

1314
01:16:04,920 --> 01:16:13,720
Speaker 1: we go, there it is. I think it's time to

1315
01:16:13,800 --> 01:16:15,559
Speaker 1: move on. I don't think it's on it. I think

1316
01:16:15,560 --> 01:16:18,679
Speaker 1: it's time to move on that. I don't think so. Honey, Yeah,

1317
01:16:19,080 --> 01:16:22,800
Speaker 1: we can tell when Bowen has had it. This is

1318
01:16:22,880 --> 01:16:26,080
Speaker 1: what's going on, is that these two people are on

1319
01:16:26,120 --> 01:16:28,920
Speaker 1: the usually how it is is these no no, no

1320
01:16:29,360 --> 01:16:35,120
Speaker 1: right now is so I'm so tired because guess what,

1321
01:16:35,240 --> 01:16:42,240
Speaker 1: it's three hours later here. So let's get I checked

1322
01:16:42,240 --> 01:16:46,320
Speaker 1: in yesterday. We're both still in the sort of energy

1323
01:16:46,520 --> 01:16:52,240
Speaker 1: upswing of the SNL postseason. I'm still I'm still recover.

1324
01:16:52,400 --> 01:16:58,200
Speaker 1: I'm still like downloading myself again. Does that make sense? Reboot,

1325
01:16:58,240 --> 01:17:02,680
Speaker 1: rebooting the hardware? Yes, and trust me, I went to

1326
01:17:03,280 --> 01:17:08,880
Speaker 1: Disneyland yesterday. Did you have to understand I am actually

1327
01:17:08,920 --> 01:17:12,000
Speaker 1: I know what I don't think Sonny is. Oh my god,

1328
01:17:12,120 --> 01:17:14,479
Speaker 1: oh my god, it just clicked. Sorry, but I just

1329
01:17:14,520 --> 01:17:16,960
Speaker 1: wanted to say that, like I'm I'm not tired, I'm

1330
01:17:17,000 --> 01:17:19,960
Speaker 1: just like a little like you it's it's it's yes,

1331
01:17:20,000 --> 01:17:22,960
Speaker 1: it's it's like that thing of the season ended and

1332
01:17:23,080 --> 01:17:25,719
Speaker 1: you said, great, now I can relax. And the mistake

1333
01:17:25,840 --> 01:17:28,439
Speaker 1: you probably made was by relaxing, you meant hang out

1334
01:17:28,479 --> 01:17:33,240
Speaker 1: with friends, socialized download but that is energy expense. Yes,

1335
01:17:33,560 --> 01:17:42,000
Speaker 1: it's hard. I am so tired. Every conversation is uphill

1336
01:17:42,240 --> 01:17:44,400
Speaker 1: for me. When will you be back in New York

1337
01:17:44,760 --> 01:17:48,599
Speaker 1: this last soon in a week. I'll see you every

1338
01:17:48,680 --> 01:17:50,320
Speaker 1: day when I get my when I see you there,

1339
01:17:50,439 --> 01:17:55,240
Speaker 1: I'll see every day. Yes, I don't really let him

1340
01:17:55,280 --> 01:17:57,640
Speaker 1: relax because even when we're just hanging out, just the

1341
01:17:57,640 --> 01:17:59,519
Speaker 1: two of us, it's sort of Bowen sitting down in

1342
01:17:59,640 --> 01:18:03,599
Speaker 1: me like kind of sort of like bouncing around the apartment.

1343
01:18:03,760 --> 01:18:05,880
Speaker 1: He knows it's true. Look at him, smile. It's it's,

1344
01:18:06,000 --> 01:18:09,240
Speaker 1: it's it's it's it's Golden Retriever and like cat and

1345
01:18:09,960 --> 01:18:15,200
Speaker 1: let's the best pair. I would that you know who

1346
01:18:15,240 --> 01:18:22,759
Speaker 1: else would love sude? Let's do that super from eighty

1347
01:18:22,960 --> 01:18:27,800
Speaker 1: and I like it. Eight eight. I do feel like

1348
01:18:28,160 --> 01:18:36,479
Speaker 1: Celeste is like in the family, you know, welcome. But

1349
01:18:36,800 --> 01:18:39,280
Speaker 1: I mean this in the way that like I sometimes

1350
01:18:39,320 --> 01:18:42,519
Speaker 1: I'm just witnessing student Celeste have little moments like where

1351
01:18:42,560 --> 01:18:44,479
Speaker 1: I don't figure into it at all, where I'm like,

1352
01:18:44,920 --> 01:18:49,840
Speaker 1: that's that's beautiful. Come here to let us care for you.

1353
01:18:51,120 --> 01:18:59,479
Speaker 1: Welcome to the family. So that's beautiful. Okay, this is

1354
01:18:59,520 --> 01:19:03,080
Speaker 1: I don't think it's really nice. This is I don't

1355
01:19:03,160 --> 01:19:07,360
Speaker 1: think so, honey. This is where we take one on

1356
01:19:07,520 --> 01:19:11,840
Speaker 1: something in culture. We're moving on to that friend of

1357
01:19:11,920 --> 01:19:14,920
Speaker 1: the show, Padma, Bone's gonna I don't think, honey, Padma. No,

1358
01:19:15,439 --> 01:19:18,600
Speaker 1: we're gonna play it for her. No, we literally do

1359
01:19:18,760 --> 01:19:21,760
Speaker 1: think so, Podma so hard. We love Padma. We do

1360
01:19:21,880 --> 01:19:24,680
Speaker 1: think so, honey, pad This is um, I know Matt

1361
01:19:24,960 --> 01:19:28,120
Speaker 1: has a topic prepared. Yeah, I do. Okay, this is

1362
01:19:28,160 --> 01:19:31,200
Speaker 1: Matt Rodgers is I don't think so, honey. Disneyland kind

1363
01:19:31,240 --> 01:19:34,479
Speaker 1: of moved you in any direction it see, Okay, this

1364
01:19:34,640 --> 01:19:36,240
Speaker 1: is Matt Rodgers. I don't think so, honey. As time

1365
01:19:36,240 --> 01:19:39,080
Speaker 1: starts now, I don't think so honey. The Avenger's Campus

1366
01:19:39,200 --> 01:19:43,080
Speaker 1: at Disneyland, California, it opened last weekend. I went, how

1367
01:19:43,160 --> 01:19:45,920
Speaker 1: come you have to get on a five hour wait

1368
01:19:46,000 --> 01:19:48,280
Speaker 1: to get into this damn thing to even get into

1369
01:19:48,360 --> 01:19:50,519
Speaker 1: the land, And then when you get into the land,

1370
01:19:50,560 --> 01:19:52,680
Speaker 1: which I didn't all they have is a Spider Man

1371
01:19:52,760 --> 01:19:55,760
Speaker 1: Webb Slingers attraction, which is basically you shoot webbs at

1372
01:19:55,760 --> 01:19:59,160
Speaker 1: a screen, which is again a video game, not a ride.

1373
01:19:59,560 --> 01:20:02,439
Speaker 1: I don't so, honey. These major theme park attractions that

1374
01:20:02,479 --> 01:20:06,280
Speaker 1: are video games not rides, I don't think so, honey. Also,

1375
01:20:06,320 --> 01:20:09,599
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey. I in order to even

1376
01:20:09,720 --> 01:20:11,880
Speaker 1: get on the web Slingers you have to wake up

1377
01:20:12,000 --> 01:20:15,280
Speaker 1: at sixty nine am to get on at seven am

1378
01:20:15,360 --> 01:20:18,120
Speaker 1: on the app, and you have to within fifteen seconds

1379
01:20:18,360 --> 01:20:20,400
Speaker 1: make yourself reservation for the ride. And if you don't

1380
01:20:20,439 --> 01:20:23,200
Speaker 1: get it, well, honey, your s o l for the

1381
01:20:23,280 --> 01:20:25,200
Speaker 1: rest of the day. I don't think so, honey. I

1382
01:20:25,320 --> 01:20:28,200
Speaker 1: did watch from the outside Spider Man Leap in the Air.

1383
01:20:28,400 --> 01:20:30,839
Speaker 1: That was cute. But you can't even get on Guardians

1384
01:20:30,920 --> 01:20:33,519
Speaker 1: of the Galaxy Mission break Out without getting into Avengels campus.

1385
01:20:33,560 --> 01:20:35,599
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey. That. I don't think so honey,

1386
01:20:35,600 --> 01:20:40,120
Speaker 1: the whole thing. It's too complicated. One no, and that's

1387
01:20:40,160 --> 01:20:44,040
Speaker 1: one minute. I am so sorry to hear about this,

1388
01:20:46,080 --> 01:20:50,160
Speaker 1: and that's why I'm going again tomorrow. Nat hold On.

1389
01:20:51,160 --> 01:20:54,760
Speaker 1: We need to sort of start the revolution and say

1390
01:20:55,120 --> 01:21:01,679
Speaker 1: no to reservation culture too. Like between hearing about Vendor's

1391
01:21:01,760 --> 01:21:04,439
Speaker 1: campus and about you haven't wake up and get in

1392
01:21:04,479 --> 01:21:06,280
Speaker 1: a five hour release, and then this is what Rise

1393
01:21:06,320 --> 01:21:08,640
Speaker 1: of the Resistance was and what I will say. I

1394
01:21:08,720 --> 01:21:10,280
Speaker 1: did do right to the Resistance the other day and

1395
01:21:10,320 --> 01:21:14,840
Speaker 1: it was stunning and resistance it ties together and Boone Yang,

1396
01:21:15,040 --> 01:21:18,200
Speaker 1: I'm excited to get you on it. Okay, great, But

1397
01:21:18,360 --> 01:21:22,280
Speaker 1: I'm just saying between that, between like fucking all these

1398
01:21:22,400 --> 01:21:25,160
Speaker 1: Pride events tickets being like kind of whipped up within

1399
01:21:25,240 --> 01:21:29,280
Speaker 1: twenty seconds, Fucking Coachella, I'm seeing my friends to try

1400
01:21:29,320 --> 01:21:36,679
Speaker 1: to get coach tickets. I'm like, guys, there must be wineries.

1401
01:21:39,160 --> 01:21:42,120
Speaker 1: We talked about on this very podcast, the concept of

1402
01:21:43,800 --> 01:21:48,439
Speaker 1: debasing yourself, humiliating yourself in order to get into a

1403
01:21:48,680 --> 01:21:52,240
Speaker 1: thing that will know that will almost never live up

1404
01:21:52,240 --> 01:21:54,439
Speaker 1: to the to the fantasy. The experience of it will

1405
01:21:54,479 --> 01:21:58,160
Speaker 1: never live up to the fantasy. Is is suffering is

1406
01:21:58,240 --> 01:22:01,400
Speaker 1: pure pathology. It's like it's it's it's it's actually something

1407
01:22:01,479 --> 01:22:03,960
Speaker 1: that humans should try to pull away from. I we

1408
01:22:04,000 --> 01:22:07,160
Speaker 1: should avoid this. I just can't tell you how demoralizing

1409
01:22:07,200 --> 01:22:10,320
Speaker 1: it is too, because it's just by design, it's meant

1410
01:22:10,360 --> 01:22:12,360
Speaker 1: to make you want to go even that's where you're

1411
01:22:12,360 --> 01:22:17,640
Speaker 1: going back again tomorrow. I have I have no reference

1412
01:22:17,720 --> 01:22:22,479
Speaker 1: for what all you were talking about. So let me

1413
01:22:22,479 --> 01:22:24,639
Speaker 1: ask you a question. If you were to buy tickets

1414
01:22:24,640 --> 01:22:28,280
Speaker 1: to an amusement park, what would you expect? You go

1415
01:22:28,479 --> 01:22:30,080
Speaker 1: in and if you want to get on a ride,

1416
01:22:30,200 --> 01:22:33,800
Speaker 1: you get online for that? Right? Yeah, that's not how

1417
01:22:33,840 --> 01:22:37,839
Speaker 1: it works. You have to imagine it was two hours

1418
01:22:37,960 --> 01:22:40,759
Speaker 1: before you get there. You have to download an app

1419
01:22:41,160 --> 01:22:44,840
Speaker 1: and within ten seconds of the of the minute it opens,

1420
01:22:44,880 --> 01:22:47,760
Speaker 1: you have to log on to get on make a

1421
01:22:47,800 --> 01:22:50,600
Speaker 1: reservation for that ride. And if you don't, your s

1422
01:22:50,720 --> 01:22:57,000
Speaker 1: O L should out of luck, ship out of you mean,

1423
01:22:59,880 --> 01:23:04,200
Speaker 1: I'm in sensed, I am, I mean sensed. I just

1424
01:23:04,360 --> 01:23:08,320
Speaker 1: think we gotta we gotta do this. We just gotta

1425
01:23:08,439 --> 01:23:11,479
Speaker 1: not do this. We gotta notorize no, this is no.

1426
01:23:11,640 --> 01:23:13,960
Speaker 1: Then this is the thing, this is the thing. We

1427
01:23:14,160 --> 01:23:17,720
Speaker 1: have to take back control as the consumer. We will

1428
01:23:17,760 --> 01:23:23,200
Speaker 1: not be consumed. Matt. You will not go to Disneyland. You,

1429
01:23:23,280 --> 01:23:26,720
Speaker 1: I mean you, I assume you're you're going there, but

1430
01:23:26,880 --> 01:23:29,720
Speaker 1: I don't want as soon as you set foot on

1431
01:23:29,840 --> 01:23:34,760
Speaker 1: the grounds, you understand that you are a consumer. And

1432
01:23:35,120 --> 01:23:37,040
Speaker 1: I've always known that, but they just make it so

1433
01:23:37,240 --> 01:23:40,080
Speaker 1: obvious now that it's like we don't really care, right,

1434
01:23:41,200 --> 01:23:43,080
Speaker 1: And that is the kind of that is the kind

1435
01:23:43,160 --> 01:23:49,040
Speaker 1: of like just oh, that that that inhuman, that apathetic

1436
01:23:49,280 --> 01:23:52,400
Speaker 1: quality to like the to like that kind of thing

1437
01:23:52,520 --> 01:23:55,400
Speaker 1: to everything to like from Like, I don't know why

1438
01:23:55,400 --> 01:23:57,240
Speaker 1: I keep thinking about Coachella, but I was just talking

1439
01:23:57,240 --> 01:23:58,880
Speaker 1: to someone about it and they were like stressed out

1440
01:23:58,880 --> 01:24:00,519
Speaker 1: about Coachelitch because I was like, I'm so sorry, but

1441
01:24:01,040 --> 01:24:03,160
Speaker 1: you don't have to worry about that, like like there's

1442
01:24:03,160 --> 01:24:05,200
Speaker 1: a there's a world in which you don't care, which

1443
01:24:05,240 --> 01:24:07,200
Speaker 1: I know is like oversimplifying if it's like there's a

1444
01:24:07,240 --> 01:24:10,559
Speaker 1: world in which you don't have to go you know. Yeah,

1445
01:24:10,680 --> 01:24:13,800
Speaker 1: So I thought like that the kind of the whole thing,

1446
01:24:14,200 --> 01:24:18,400
Speaker 1: the whole kind of gift of you know, selling ourselves

1447
01:24:18,439 --> 01:24:23,040
Speaker 1: and dignity to fucking like Disney was like being taken

1448
01:24:23,120 --> 01:24:25,160
Speaker 1: care of and knowing that it was based by being

1449
01:24:25,200 --> 01:24:27,759
Speaker 1: taken care of. Anyways, It's like, at the very least

1450
01:24:28,080 --> 01:24:33,760
Speaker 1: I want to dis pretend fake it. Yes, I thought

1451
01:24:33,760 --> 01:24:35,880
Speaker 1: this experience years ago when we went and Rise of

1452
01:24:35,920 --> 01:24:40,679
Speaker 1: the Resistance was like fully unhinged and I was like, uhis,

1453
01:24:41,680 --> 01:24:44,559
Speaker 1: I was like, this is actually not good for anyone

1454
01:24:44,600 --> 01:24:47,920
Speaker 1: like I don't understand why this is part like that,

1455
01:24:48,080 --> 01:24:50,599
Speaker 1: it's just not well. And then you know what, they

1456
01:24:50,680 --> 01:24:53,360
Speaker 1: also have the goal to be like in the promotion

1457
01:24:53,439 --> 01:24:55,840
Speaker 1: of it all, be like this is I can't miss.

1458
01:24:56,240 --> 01:24:59,240
Speaker 1: If you miss this, you'll be talking about how bad

1459
01:24:59,360 --> 01:25:03,240
Speaker 1: you feel for decades if you missed this after you

1460
01:25:03,439 --> 01:25:08,920
Speaker 1: paid up your ass to come here. You are your

1461
01:25:09,080 --> 01:25:17,760
Speaker 1: ship of girls. Girls. All right, that was beautiful, Thank you, Matt.

1462
01:25:18,040 --> 01:25:19,720
Speaker 1: I just and you know, I don't like to be

1463
01:25:19,840 --> 01:25:23,439
Speaker 1: mad at my girls. The Disney Corporation. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

1464
01:25:23,600 --> 01:25:27,200
Speaker 1: I don't think that was I don't think Sonny says Celeste,

1465
01:25:27,240 --> 01:25:30,080
Speaker 1: who by the way, Celeste will read you down. That

1466
01:25:30,200 --> 01:25:32,280
Speaker 1: is another thing about Celeste. They will read you down

1467
01:25:32,479 --> 01:25:35,960
Speaker 1: and they will not even and it'll be a thing

1468
01:25:36,000 --> 01:25:38,519
Speaker 1: of like it happens, and then you'll walk away and

1469
01:25:38,560 --> 01:25:42,800
Speaker 1: be like I just got read down. M m hmm.

1470
01:25:44,320 --> 01:25:46,400
Speaker 1: You know, oh my god, you go, oh my, they

1471
01:25:46,479 --> 01:25:48,800
Speaker 1: just rend me down. They just read me. I am

1472
01:25:48,920 --> 01:25:53,080
Speaker 1: having a little bit of like somebody I'm visiting kind

1473
01:25:53,120 --> 01:25:55,960
Speaker 1: of old friends, like college friends, and a few of

1474
01:25:56,000 --> 01:26:00,800
Speaker 1: my New York friends are in town, and I think

1475
01:26:00,840 --> 01:26:02,599
Speaker 1: that they have sort of like in the past couple

1476
01:26:02,600 --> 01:26:08,880
Speaker 1: of days, like understood why as I'm like constentally roasting

1477
01:26:09,479 --> 01:26:15,560
Speaker 1: like you are. You are why my friends from Toronto

1478
01:26:16,040 --> 01:26:21,360
Speaker 1: are like almost as sport like constantly, constantly, just like

1479
01:26:21,479 --> 01:26:24,760
Speaker 1: if you speak, you are a fucking idiot. You are

1480
01:26:24,840 --> 01:26:29,559
Speaker 1: raised in a rough environment. Yes, if you are not roasting,

1481
01:26:29,680 --> 01:26:35,000
Speaker 1: if your mouth is closed, you're getting stomped on. You

1482
01:26:35,160 --> 01:26:37,320
Speaker 1: sort of have to be keeping up with the rhythm.

1483
01:26:37,439 --> 01:26:41,000
Speaker 1: It's the balls of the air. You you made me

1484
01:26:41,160 --> 01:26:46,360
Speaker 1: like that, Yeah, because since I since I met you

1485
01:26:46,680 --> 01:26:49,320
Speaker 1: in Toronto, when you stormed the stage and stole the show,

1486
01:26:49,840 --> 01:26:52,920
Speaker 1: you started bullying me. And this is also something I

1487
01:26:52,960 --> 01:26:56,120
Speaker 1: remember as you started bullying me, and so you bullied

1488
01:26:56,160 --> 01:26:59,200
Speaker 1: me ever since and now I and now I'm like

1489
01:26:59,280 --> 01:27:03,120
Speaker 1: I have this I never had, oh my god. Yeah,

1490
01:27:03,760 --> 01:27:09,439
Speaker 1: and it causes you to be industry matted. Yeah. I

1491
01:27:09,760 --> 01:27:12,040
Speaker 1: kind of think that that's my influence. Yea, most people

1492
01:27:12,120 --> 01:27:16,160
Speaker 1: know me. It's sort of a mean that's good. You

1493
01:27:17,800 --> 01:27:19,720
Speaker 1: know who's there? Who else is the mean person? Who

1494
01:27:20,320 --> 01:27:26,519
Speaker 1: city green, cruelty bitch I have ever met. One of

1495
01:27:26,560 --> 01:27:28,639
Speaker 1: the first things, one of the one of the earliest

1496
01:27:28,680 --> 01:27:31,080
Speaker 1: things I remember her saying is that she loved mad men.

1497
01:27:31,160 --> 01:27:34,519
Speaker 1: Because mad Men quote understands that human life is suffering.

1498
01:27:34,720 --> 01:27:41,280
Speaker 1: End quote. She was nineteen. She said, this show understands

1499
01:27:41,439 --> 01:27:45,040
Speaker 1: that human life is suffering. She was nineteen years old.

1500
01:27:45,120 --> 01:27:47,040
Speaker 1: Her whole life was ahead of her. She said that.

1501
01:27:49,400 --> 01:27:51,719
Speaker 1: She also I showed her at the show X Factor

1502
01:27:52,240 --> 01:27:54,559
Speaker 1: and she said, look how many pepsi cans there are?

1503
01:27:54,960 --> 01:27:56,760
Speaker 1: Look how there's so many pepsi cans and they pan

1504
01:27:56,920 --> 01:28:01,080
Speaker 1: up this girl's body and I was like, God, this

1505
01:28:01,280 --> 01:28:06,000
Speaker 1: girl is so she's so jaded and smart. She's gonna

1506
01:28:06,000 --> 01:28:07,679
Speaker 1: be mad that I'm revealing this. But at one point

1507
01:28:07,760 --> 01:28:11,240
Speaker 1: she wrote a game show sketch for for read through,

1508
01:28:11,800 --> 01:28:13,639
Speaker 1: and the thing was like a game show sketch about

1509
01:28:13,640 --> 01:28:16,800
Speaker 1: like bachelorette parties, and then there was just one specific joke.

1510
01:28:16,880 --> 01:28:19,680
Speaker 1: I forget what the context was, but it was like, um,

1511
01:28:20,120 --> 01:28:23,360
Speaker 1: do you like do something blah blah blah with your

1512
01:28:24,600 --> 01:28:26,880
Speaker 1: with the bachelorette, with it with the bridal party where

1513
01:28:26,960 --> 01:28:31,960
Speaker 1: three of them are like full on fucking nobody are

1514
01:28:32,040 --> 01:28:35,599
Speaker 1: full on nothing, No, three full nothings in the bridal party.

1515
01:28:35,600 --> 01:28:39,280
Speaker 1: And I'm like, oh my god. There was and a

1516
01:28:39,360 --> 01:28:43,000
Speaker 1: view parody that went, but this joke was cut because

1517
01:28:43,080 --> 01:28:45,120
Speaker 1: I believe. Lauren said it was too it was to

1518
01:28:45,280 --> 01:28:47,960
Speaker 1: me and and he was right in that in that

1519
01:28:48,080 --> 01:28:50,880
Speaker 1: instance because it was actually very mud. There is an

1520
01:28:51,000 --> 01:28:54,799
Speaker 1: endless it's infinite with her, like she'll she'll just be speaking,

1521
01:28:54,880 --> 01:28:57,840
Speaker 1: She'll just say something like yeah, she's a bento. Box mom.

1522
01:28:57,920 --> 01:29:03,160
Speaker 1: Aki doesn't work. Just I'm like, flo, are you talking?

1523
01:29:04,080 --> 01:29:09,200
Speaker 1: It's knives and every direction doesn't work. Okay, it doesn't work.

1524
01:29:10,600 --> 01:29:17,160
Speaker 1: No one is box mom mom. Should we return soon?

1525
01:29:17,280 --> 01:29:19,880
Speaker 1: We're doing an in person episode with Sutti Green it is.

1526
01:29:19,920 --> 01:29:21,479
Speaker 1: You have to be scheduled, but it will be summer

1527
01:29:21,520 --> 01:29:26,200
Speaker 1: of count for summer, and it will be a wonderful

1528
01:29:26,280 --> 01:29:30,400
Speaker 1: episode upcoming. Everyone's eagerly awaiting the return of Sutti. But

1529
01:29:30,479 --> 01:29:34,000
Speaker 1: for now we will have Bowen Yanks. I don't think so, honey, Boonen,

1530
01:29:34,280 --> 01:29:37,080
Speaker 1: have you sort of marinated and decided on the topic

1531
01:29:37,160 --> 01:29:40,200
Speaker 1: as a result, he said, marination? Yes, yes, I've decided

1532
01:29:41,000 --> 01:29:48,400
Speaker 1: marination alright, this is boe. I don't think so, honey.

1533
01:29:48,479 --> 01:29:52,280
Speaker 1: A time starts now. I don't think so, honey. Sun Sets,

1534
01:29:52,760 --> 01:29:56,200
Speaker 1: why are you giving us consistency in the color palette,

1535
01:29:56,280 --> 01:30:00,760
Speaker 1: you fucking bitch. We know what the what colors work.

1536
01:30:01,200 --> 01:30:05,640
Speaker 1: It's blues, it's violets, it's pigs. Don't experiment, don't give

1537
01:30:05,720 --> 01:30:09,439
Speaker 1: us do different eras and do like grays and blues.

1538
01:30:10,240 --> 01:30:13,800
Speaker 1: The there's a universally agreed upon color palette for sunsets

1539
01:30:13,880 --> 01:30:16,120
Speaker 1: that works. And the cloud I don't care that it's

1540
01:30:16,160 --> 01:30:18,240
Speaker 1: the clouds. I don't care that it depends on like

1541
01:30:19,080 --> 01:30:22,519
Speaker 1: the tilt of the earth or the seasonality of the sunset.

1542
01:30:22,880 --> 01:30:28,080
Speaker 1: Give us the same colors every single night, every crepa skull. No,

1543
01:30:28,200 --> 01:30:31,240
Speaker 1: that's that's that's the dawn, every twilight. Give us the

1544
01:30:31,360 --> 01:30:35,479
Speaker 1: same colors. Otherwise I don't want to see it. I

1545
01:30:35,640 --> 01:30:39,120
Speaker 1: want you to be someone who who does the work

1546
01:30:39,240 --> 01:30:44,720
Speaker 1: and does it predictably. I don't. I think predictability is underrated.

1547
01:30:44,760 --> 01:30:49,880
Speaker 1: It's oh I I wasn't bring Jennifer Gardner into this,

1548
01:30:50,160 --> 01:30:53,880
Speaker 1: but you have to give us something consistent sunset that's

1549
01:30:53,920 --> 01:31:01,160
Speaker 1: one minute, um wow, So you you you I have

1550
01:31:01,280 --> 01:31:05,080
Speaker 1: a problem with sunsets, which are true verse sunsets. Canna

1551
01:31:05,120 --> 01:31:11,160
Speaker 1: give you all sorts of different story and which one

1552
01:31:11,160 --> 01:31:14,760
Speaker 1: would you hear about? The most blue violet paint? So

1553
01:31:15,000 --> 01:31:17,840
Speaker 1: sort of like a fire island, No, not even fire

1554
01:31:17,880 --> 01:31:21,599
Speaker 1: is You don't want to Fire Island sunset sun Fireland sets.

1555
01:31:21,640 --> 01:31:25,120
Speaker 1: It's gonna be blue is Olympic. I want orange. I

1556
01:31:25,200 --> 01:31:27,400
Speaker 1: don't want orange. I don't want warm tones. I don't

1557
01:31:27,400 --> 01:31:30,880
Speaker 1: want warm tones. Horrible and guess what? Uh not for

1558
01:31:31,040 --> 01:31:36,519
Speaker 1: nothing but Lion King found dead? Yes, Minkoff found dead,

1559
01:31:36,720 --> 01:31:42,400
Speaker 1: Rob rob a husband of crystals, our new favorite Housewives

1560
01:31:42,400 --> 01:31:46,080
Speaker 1: of Beverly Hills cast member, Oh my God, found dead,

1561
01:31:46,960 --> 01:31:53,599
Speaker 1: Shirley Temples found dead. Duck is controversial. I feel very

1562
01:31:53,720 --> 01:32:03,040
Speaker 1: much it's literally colorist. I don't care. Yes, I don't care.

1563
01:32:03,960 --> 01:32:11,679
Speaker 1: Your color isn't I'm gonna know. I don't think so, honey, excusely.

1564
01:32:11,760 --> 01:32:16,080
Speaker 1: I believe the lyrics are have you ever the Wolf

1565
01:32:16,200 --> 01:32:20,960
Speaker 1: Karai to the Blue con Moon? What's the part about

1566
01:32:21,000 --> 01:32:25,240
Speaker 1: sunset and that song? Um? I don't think there's a

1567
01:32:25,240 --> 01:32:28,760
Speaker 1: part about sunset. And that's a shame. It feels like

1568
01:32:28,760 --> 01:32:31,960
Speaker 1: I've got opportunity to mention sunsets and colors. Maybe it's

1569
01:32:31,960 --> 01:32:33,920
Speaker 1: just because it's called colors of the wind, colors of

1570
01:32:34,000 --> 01:32:36,960
Speaker 1: the wind. Okay, the majority of the colors of the

1571
01:32:37,880 --> 01:32:41,519
Speaker 1: sound dead, I said, Stephen Short, so found dead colors

1572
01:32:41,560 --> 01:32:46,439
Speaker 1: are the wind? Bone said, more like two colors of it.

1573
01:32:48,080 --> 01:32:54,719
Speaker 1: I'm finding it hard to even you know, find said

1574
01:32:55,320 --> 01:33:00,760
Speaker 1: there's nothing. He didn't have one, and I thought of that.

1575
01:33:01,640 --> 01:33:07,400
Speaker 1: But still telling this. We'll get it. We'll get this week,

1576
01:33:07,640 --> 01:33:11,439
Speaker 1: I said, I said, this week, I will come prepared

1577
01:33:11,520 --> 01:33:13,600
Speaker 1: with a topic. And I thought it came to me.

1578
01:33:13,640 --> 01:33:17,040
Speaker 1: It's immaculate. The conception. I thought, it'll be sunsets, it

1579
01:33:17,040 --> 01:33:19,680
Speaker 1: will be be consistent. Give us consistency, give us the

1580
01:33:19,760 --> 01:33:21,719
Speaker 1: same color story. I don't want to see different colors

1581
01:33:25,040 --> 01:33:30,000
Speaker 1: the sun that looks the same every night. Yes, yes, yeah,

1582
01:33:30,040 --> 01:33:32,519
Speaker 1: And it's like an arctic it's like an arctic something.

1583
01:33:36,000 --> 01:33:38,240
Speaker 1: You guys are you guys are acting like I'm crazy,

1584
01:33:38,360 --> 01:33:42,879
Speaker 1: and I don't appreciate you guys are acting like I'm crazy. Crazy.

1585
01:33:45,040 --> 01:33:49,320
Speaker 1: Well that's our Maybe people act act like you're crazy

1586
01:33:49,360 --> 01:33:53,599
Speaker 1: around you because you're crazy. Some things are some things.

1587
01:33:53,880 --> 01:33:57,280
Speaker 1: It's not scible sophomore thing to say. I'm I don't

1588
01:33:57,280 --> 01:34:01,360
Speaker 1: want to do this. If you want to do this,

1589
01:34:01,640 --> 01:34:10,120
Speaker 1: you are s O L shit out of luck sweetiel

1590
01:34:10,560 --> 01:34:14,479
Speaker 1: parentheses ship out of luck. A good title for the Yes, yes,

1591
01:34:15,160 --> 01:34:17,720
Speaker 1: is it good? I love it? Well, it's really good.

1592
01:34:18,040 --> 01:34:21,120
Speaker 1: What's a good title for what's about to happen is

1593
01:34:21,280 --> 01:34:24,519
Speaker 1: Celeste Gims. I don't think so, honey. Okay, wait, I

1594
01:34:24,880 --> 01:34:28,080
Speaker 1: really could have prepared. I can't believe I've been in

1595
01:34:28,120 --> 01:34:37,080
Speaker 1: the towels, towels more content time. Alright, so Celeste, who

1596
01:34:37,200 --> 01:34:41,640
Speaker 1: is now? I don't think so, honey, royalty, because this

1597
01:34:41,960 --> 01:34:44,920
Speaker 1: is of course not the first of the second, the

1598
01:34:45,120 --> 01:34:49,400
Speaker 1: third canonical time Celeste has done. I don't think, so honey.

1599
01:34:49,520 --> 01:34:51,800
Speaker 1: Here we go, this is celestiums. I don't think so, honey,

1600
01:34:51,840 --> 01:34:54,040
Speaker 1: And their time starts now. I don't think so honey,

1601
01:34:54,360 --> 01:34:58,360
Speaker 1: seasonal allergies. You need to leave me and my loved

1602
01:34:58,400 --> 01:35:02,040
Speaker 1: ones alone. I am thing. I'm pausing my nose. I

1603
01:35:02,560 --> 01:35:05,839
Speaker 1: and you win when I lose, and it is pathetic.

1604
01:35:06,360 --> 01:35:08,800
Speaker 1: When the weather gets nice, it means that I get happy,

1605
01:35:09,040 --> 01:35:11,120
Speaker 1: and you see that, and you don't like that, and

1606
01:35:11,240 --> 01:35:13,960
Speaker 1: you punished me for that. Okay. You made me and

1607
01:35:14,040 --> 01:35:17,960
Speaker 1: Bowen cough around our friends because and because there's a

1608
01:35:18,000 --> 01:35:20,639
Speaker 1: different reason that people are coming right now. Are coughing

1609
01:35:20,680 --> 01:35:23,880
Speaker 1: scared them? Okay, and you are scary and they're sad.

1610
01:35:24,479 --> 01:35:26,840
Speaker 1: Um The medicine that I have to take just to

1611
01:35:27,080 --> 01:35:30,280
Speaker 1: keep your bullshit at bay, because me to have other

1612
01:35:30,400 --> 01:35:33,320
Speaker 1: symptoms of other illnesses. My neigg was right. It gives

1613
01:35:33,360 --> 01:35:35,960
Speaker 1: me no I took an a leego before going on

1614
01:35:36,000 --> 01:35:38,200
Speaker 1: a date and was so drowsy that I felt like

1615
01:35:38,360 --> 01:35:40,200
Speaker 1: I was in a dream trying to run and I

1616
01:35:40,240 --> 01:35:42,599
Speaker 1: had to leave abruptly. And now she thinks I'm weird.

1617
01:35:43,280 --> 01:35:46,799
Speaker 1: You are doing illness drag and you're doing it poorly.

1618
01:35:47,240 --> 01:35:49,960
Speaker 1: My love, you wish you were a contagious illness, but

1619
01:35:50,360 --> 01:35:53,240
Speaker 1: you never will be funny. Your seasonal and you're temporary

1620
01:35:53,439 --> 01:35:55,400
Speaker 1: and as soon as the flowers I you'll be gone

1621
01:35:55,439 --> 01:36:00,640
Speaker 1: to Okay, get a life. Oh my god, wow, that

1622
01:36:00,840 --> 01:36:06,280
Speaker 1: you really ca allergies. Found dead. I'm sick of it.

1623
01:36:07,120 --> 01:36:09,479
Speaker 1: So lust and I were in the Hampton's. I had

1624
01:36:10,000 --> 01:36:13,400
Speaker 1: you had. I have never had that much eggs am

1625
01:36:13,479 --> 01:36:16,479
Speaker 1: in my life because of my allergies. We were coughing

1626
01:36:16,720 --> 01:36:19,599
Speaker 1: all week and people were genuinely scared. They were upset.

1627
01:36:20,560 --> 01:36:22,840
Speaker 1: I don't like it when when people are bodily around

1628
01:36:22,920 --> 01:36:28,040
Speaker 1: me at all. It was but we were coughing for

1629
01:36:28,120 --> 01:36:30,120
Speaker 1: a long time. It was something that not even a

1630
01:36:30,200 --> 01:36:33,840
Speaker 1: Claton or a Floonees could deal with. That was the

1631
01:36:33,920 --> 01:36:38,479
Speaker 1: best case scenario. We were drilled up. Can I confess something.

1632
01:36:38,560 --> 01:36:41,479
Speaker 1: So last one night, in the middle of the night,

1633
01:36:43,280 --> 01:36:45,080
Speaker 1: you did wake me up because you were coughing a lot,

1634
01:36:45,120 --> 01:36:47,640
Speaker 1: and I thought, are they okay? Okay? Should I go

1635
01:36:47,760 --> 01:36:50,120
Speaker 1: check on them? And there was no, no, No, this

1636
01:36:50,280 --> 01:36:55,320
Speaker 1: is not humiliating. Well, a few things are happening here.

1637
01:36:55,320 --> 01:37:00,120
Speaker 1: I'm humiliating. So last I am um sendering myself up

1638
01:37:00,120 --> 01:37:02,920
Speaker 1: as someone who could have done something and chose to

1639
01:37:03,000 --> 01:37:08,280
Speaker 1: stay silent and chose to stay. I'm comfortable, comfortable, silent

1640
01:37:08,400 --> 01:37:12,040
Speaker 1: and comfortable in the Hampton. And I apologize to lust

1641
01:37:12,080 --> 01:37:16,400
Speaker 1: and I apologize, Thank you, I forgive you. I don't

1642
01:37:16,400 --> 01:37:17,720
Speaker 1: know why I had to tell that story, but I do.

1643
01:37:18,120 --> 01:37:20,160
Speaker 1: There was a night where I thought, am I going

1644
01:37:20,200 --> 01:37:24,880
Speaker 1: to have to take them to the hospital? Was yeah,

1645
01:37:24,960 --> 01:37:27,240
Speaker 1: Well it was like a situation. I was like opening

1646
01:37:27,280 --> 01:37:32,320
Speaker 1: the window to get fresh air in these lungs breathing.

1647
01:37:33,520 --> 01:37:38,360
Speaker 1: I truly was slut of black. Yeah at that time,

1648
01:37:39,600 --> 01:37:42,040
Speaker 1: I just I don't know, but this is this day,

1649
01:37:42,160 --> 01:37:45,439
Speaker 1: this day, this day didn't go well. Well, I acted

1650
01:37:45,520 --> 01:37:48,560
Speaker 1: really weird and you should tell her that it was

1651
01:37:48,600 --> 01:37:53,720
Speaker 1: the allergies. If you're still interested, No, you're right. It's

1652
01:37:53,760 --> 01:37:56,760
Speaker 1: just kind of situation where it's running my life. I

1653
01:37:56,800 --> 01:38:00,200
Speaker 1: actually am interested, and I do worry that she will

1654
01:38:00,680 --> 01:38:04,280
Speaker 1: go ahead and be listening. We can cut the sound.

1655
01:38:06,080 --> 01:38:10,080
Speaker 1: It's not like that. This isn't an extremely vulnerable and

1656
01:38:10,240 --> 01:38:14,920
Speaker 1: raw episode. Yeah, I agree. I think that it's best

1657
01:38:15,080 --> 01:38:19,519
Speaker 1: if we leave it that way. What do you guys

1658
01:38:19,600 --> 01:38:22,200
Speaker 1: think I think we should we should leave it. I

1659
01:38:22,240 --> 01:38:25,280
Speaker 1: think we should leave it exactly as is, no edits.

1660
01:38:26,720 --> 01:38:31,520
Speaker 1: I offer up the option to edit. Well. Matt embraces

1661
01:38:32,120 --> 01:38:39,080
Speaker 1: often embrace, but not really um. But on this episode,

1662
01:38:39,280 --> 01:38:43,360
Speaker 1: we were raw, we were real. Yes, we went there,

1663
01:38:44,479 --> 01:38:53,240
Speaker 1: we went off. We were I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Gosh.

1664
01:38:53,560 --> 01:38:55,000
Speaker 1: I see if I were sleeping, you know what that

1665
01:38:55,080 --> 01:38:59,920
Speaker 1: would have done. Can I ask you a question, would

1666
01:38:59,920 --> 01:39:03,439
Speaker 1: you have helped a hacking Bowen? I definitely. I think

1667
01:39:03,439 --> 01:39:10,360
Speaker 1: I would have texted yeah, Tted, I think that. Honestly,

1668
01:39:10,560 --> 01:39:11,800
Speaker 1: I was about to go. I was about to go

1669
01:39:12,000 --> 01:39:13,160
Speaker 1: over to you in the middle of the night and

1670
01:39:13,240 --> 01:39:16,759
Speaker 1: be like, be okay, like let's let's go so sweet

1671
01:39:17,240 --> 01:39:19,120
Speaker 1: you would have were you were going to offer to

1672
01:39:19,240 --> 01:39:21,400
Speaker 1: leave the house, I would have been I would offer

1673
01:39:21,640 --> 01:39:24,639
Speaker 1: for us to drive, to drive somewhere, to go somewhere.

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01:39:24,920 --> 01:39:29,320
Speaker 1: He would he was going to take you out back

1675
01:39:29,439 --> 01:39:31,840
Speaker 1: to shoot you. Yeah, that's what it sounds like. Yeah,

1676
01:39:31,920 --> 01:39:35,800
Speaker 1: he was gonna kill that's the impression I'm getting. This

1677
01:39:36,080 --> 01:39:40,519
Speaker 1: was a pleasure. This is a true pleasure, and you know,

1678
01:39:41,200 --> 01:39:44,280
Speaker 1: we would like you to come back. One of the

1679
01:39:44,320 --> 01:39:50,000
Speaker 1: loves of my life because the second you stole the

1680
01:39:50,040 --> 01:39:53,720
Speaker 1: show at the Toronto, I don't think so high. It

1681
01:39:54,520 --> 01:39:57,320
Speaker 1: was a true moment in time. I will say that

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01:39:58,600 --> 01:40:03,640
Speaker 1: moving to New York, I felt that it was possible

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01:40:04,200 --> 01:40:08,200
Speaker 1: to be there knowing that you guys were there. I

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01:40:08,360 --> 01:40:12,280
Speaker 1: have long look up to you. I appreciate you both

1685
01:40:12,479 --> 01:40:16,679
Speaker 1: so much. You really both have stuck your next out

1686
01:40:16,800 --> 01:40:20,759
Speaker 1: for me. You freak for the chopping on the chopping

1687
01:40:20,840 --> 01:40:26,840
Speaker 1: block to be cleaved like chicken bone to protect me,

1688
01:40:27,760 --> 01:40:30,559
Speaker 1: and I appreciate I love you both very very much. Well,

1689
01:40:30,680 --> 01:40:35,360
Speaker 1: this was a fun freesome and it was hot and

1690
01:40:35,520 --> 01:40:43,360
Speaker 1: steamy and sexy. It was um and then it eventually

1691
01:40:43,720 --> 01:40:47,000
Speaker 1: got Our butts were all sweaty and hot together, just

1692
01:40:47,120 --> 01:40:49,680
Speaker 1: like it was when you were young and in that

1693
01:40:50,080 --> 01:40:54,680
Speaker 1: sort of environment. Jennifer's bodies for me. And if you

1694
01:40:54,880 --> 01:40:59,200
Speaker 1: the reader aren't wiggling your bottoms out, then guess what

1695
01:40:59,360 --> 01:41:06,080
Speaker 1: your s oh owt of luck? We finished with a

1696
01:41:06,200 --> 01:41:18,439
Speaker 1: song and don't see what anyone can see. But for

1697
01:41:18,560 --> 01:41:21,600
Speaker 1: more of that song, listen to the Juno soundtrack and

1698
01:41:21,880 --> 01:41:24,880
Speaker 1: as the song was written by Michael Sarah and Elliott Page.

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01:41:25,720 --> 01:41:29,920
Speaker 1: Was that I think I wrote it? Oh no, that

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01:41:30,000 --> 01:41:33,160
Speaker 1: was That was all the futures. I'm sorry by