1 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:06,120 Speaker 1: Your tunes about drive on your twenty four to seven 2 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:09,000 Speaker 1: Home of the Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio. 3 00:00:19,239 --> 00:00:22,240 Speaker 2: We're humbled and excited to be in these five star matchups. 4 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:23,520 Speaker 2: Five star matchup. 5 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:26,120 Speaker 1: Somebody leaving here with the loss not gonna. 6 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:30,280 Speaker 3: Be a good evening Stealer Nation. How we do well? 7 00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:33,720 Speaker 3: That's good us to our number two. Happy Halloween. As 8 00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:36,720 Speaker 3: you're probably rolling into or getting close to Trick or 9 00:00:36,720 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 3: Treating hour here. Yeah, yeah for most places you got 10 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:42,839 Speaker 3: you got Libo Trick or treat upper. Are you technically 11 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:43,360 Speaker 3: now up percent? 12 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:44,680 Speaker 2: Okay? 13 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:45,000 Speaker 3: I thought? 14 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:49,440 Speaker 2: So we get a busy one you've been Yeah, yeah, 15 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:51,560 Speaker 2: it's busy for two hours straight. Pretty packed. 16 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 3: Vers is too. We've had like over one hundred kids 17 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:56,440 Speaker 3: the last couple of years. Yeah, my wife is real nervous. 18 00:00:56,440 --> 00:00:58,800 Speaker 3: She's always like, did we get enough? Did we get 19 00:00:58,920 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 3: enough candy? 20 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:02,320 Speaker 2: My wife will set up she sets up a huge 21 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:05,280 Speaker 2: tent at the like at our mailbox at the top 22 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:08,200 Speaker 2: of the driveway. We get like the fire table out. Yep, 23 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:10,720 Speaker 2: you can like the kids like come into the tent 24 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 2: and it's all decorated and kneoned up and yeah, it's 25 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:15,480 Speaker 2: it's a it's a it's a whole to you. 26 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:18,960 Speaker 3: It's exciting, and I know I've shared this with you too, 27 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:22,840 Speaker 3: but it's like everyone's everyone's told me, you know, like 28 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:26,200 Speaker 3: once your kids reach a certain age, holidays become so 29 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:30,000 Speaker 3: much fun. And unfortunately I kind of missed out on 30 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 3: that on this past Christmas because the Steelers had a 31 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:34,120 Speaker 3: one o'clock game and so I was gone from like 32 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:37,040 Speaker 3: eight a m. Till you know, eight o'clock at night type. 33 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:39,000 Speaker 3: But I'm very excited. 34 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:41,080 Speaker 2: You know, I've got a four. 35 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 3: Year old and a two year old. Now they're like 36 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 3: into it. They're dressing up. 37 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:46,919 Speaker 2: I'll be getting text from University Kentucky in much different 38 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, festivities. I have a feeling, no doubt. 39 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 3: No doubt you will you'll laugh at this. I took 40 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 3: my daughter's daycare today, my oldest to four year old. 41 00:01:56,640 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 3: All the other girls in her class are dressed as 42 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 3: like princesses and Disney care. She's dressed as a chocolate 43 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:04,080 Speaker 3: chip cookie nice. I'm like, sweetheart, this is why I 44 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:06,440 Speaker 3: love you, baby, this is this is why you are 45 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 3: my girl. So yeah, looking forward to it tonight. I 46 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:11,960 Speaker 3: hope everybody has some fun and get some good pictures 47 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:14,399 Speaker 3: and some good candy and all that stuff. Matt, let's 48 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:16,600 Speaker 3: continue with five star Friday here. Yes, Like I said, 49 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:19,480 Speaker 3: let's spin the block now and talk about Steelers offense 50 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:26,120 Speaker 3: against this Colts defense. Okay, so not a pushover. No, 51 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:28,080 Speaker 3: it's not a push out, but not as daunting as 52 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:29,360 Speaker 3: the Indianapolis offense. 53 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 2: Agreed, So is this a I don't even think it's 54 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:35,359 Speaker 2: one of the best defenses they faced this year? A 55 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:41,079 Speaker 2: great I put New England, Seattle, Cleveland, probably the Packers. 56 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:43,679 Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, and those are all really good, don't 57 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:45,919 Speaker 2: get me wrong, But I mean it's it's a good defense. 58 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 2: It's not an overwhelming defense. 59 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:49,600 Speaker 3: And we talked about this a little bit in the 60 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 3: in the open of the show when I was trying 61 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 3: not to suffocate myself in that Halloween mask. But how 62 00:02:56,160 --> 00:02:58,920 Speaker 3: do you go about what's your big personnel usage? Look 63 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:03,920 Speaker 3: like this twelve personnel, thirteen personnel, six offensive lineman package like, 64 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 3: and we'll dig into it, but from a thirty thousand 65 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 3: foot view, from a macro view, where is the best 66 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:12,800 Speaker 3: area to attack? What is the best way to attack 67 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 3: this Indianapolis defense? 68 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, and again I don't have a great vibe for 69 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:21,520 Speaker 2: that other than try to make them do what they 70 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:24,360 Speaker 2: don't want to do. They want to be in Nickel. 71 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:29,560 Speaker 2: I mean, they'll always went in doubt, they'll go to Nickel. 72 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 2: That's where they're most comfortable. And that's not uncommon. That's 73 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 2: their it really is. I mean there's teams that are 74 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 2: that live in Nickel no matter what. 75 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 3: Bufflows like that. 76 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's a nice world to live in if 77 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 2: you have the athletes to do it that you can 78 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 2: be big and little at the same time without substituting. 79 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 2: Like I don't know the NBA well, but people say this, 80 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 2: if you have a defense that doesn't have to sub 81 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 2: when they put their bigs in, you know, versusir little guys, 82 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 2: Well you're in a good spot, you know. And I 83 00:03:56,880 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 2: think Indie kind of looks at themselves that way. But 84 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 2: if you're gonna come out in thirteen, I mean I 85 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 2: would expect and this isn't uncommon any game, and this 86 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 2: is why teams script. But I would think you'll see 87 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 2: a wide variety of offensive personnel groups to see what 88 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 2: they what forces them to go to base. We're gonna 89 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 2: put twelve out there, Oh we got Nickel. What if 90 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:25,800 Speaker 2: we put twelve with Friarmouth and Washington as opposed to 91 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 2: Friarmuth and Smith. Okay, they're still in nickel. What if 92 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:32,240 Speaker 2: we throw all three out there, they're still a nickel. Sure, 93 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 2: what if we throw all three in extra offensive lineman? 94 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 2: They still a nickel? You know, like to the to 95 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 2: the point where we're gonna be bigger and badder than you, 96 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 2: and we want to get your big people on the field. 97 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 2: And I also think the less defensive back sail on 98 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 2: the field, the harder it is to help those corners 99 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:51,719 Speaker 2: that are suspect. I mean, it's a below average group 100 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 2: of corners and not really their fault. They got kind 101 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:56,280 Speaker 2: of hit by injury and retirements and things like that. 102 00:04:56,520 --> 00:05:00,919 Speaker 3: Yeah, and again that's that's where I struggle with their 103 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:05,159 Speaker 3: you know, bottom of the basement NFL pass defense rankings. Yeah. 104 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 2: Yeah. 105 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 3: Is it the fact that you can make some hay there? 106 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:09,680 Speaker 3: Is it the fact that, as we said in the 107 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:12,040 Speaker 3: previous hour, they're just playing with a lead so often 108 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 3: that teams are throwing the ball against them, which inflations 109 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 3: certainly true, inflates that number. I do think it's probably 110 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 3: a game probably a little bit. 111 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:20,360 Speaker 2: Of both, a little bit of both. But I think 112 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:23,920 Speaker 2: what's most appealing other than the cornerback situation is they 113 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 2: definitely have a history of not really getting off the 114 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:30,360 Speaker 2: field particularly well. I mean, as good as their offenses 115 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 2: and I know they score quickly at times, they're not 116 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:34,960 Speaker 2: a great time possession team. That's stat that I cite 117 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:37,839 Speaker 2: in my packet every week about turning a new set 118 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:39,600 Speaker 2: of downs or a set of downs into a new 119 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:41,720 Speaker 2: set of downs. They're right at the bottom of the 120 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:45,040 Speaker 2: league with that. I mean, so they definitely allow a 121 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:49,240 Speaker 2: lot of plays to be run, which I like that part. 122 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 2: I'll be honest. I mean, I think there's a chance 123 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:54,920 Speaker 2: that there's a lot of points scored in this game. 124 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:56,920 Speaker 2: I mean it might be like thirty eight, thirty five. 125 00:05:56,960 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 3: I think so too. Yeah, I'm with you on that this. Yeah, 126 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 3: I know you've made this joke before, so not to 127 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 3: step on your toes. But it feels like the proverbial, 128 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 3: you know, everything used to be a race to twenty 129 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:10,080 Speaker 3: with the Pittsburgh Steelers. See the last handful of. 130 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 2: Years and their numbers coming into the season, like over 131 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 2: the last five years, if they got the twenty, that 132 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:19,080 Speaker 2: if the defense didn't allow twenty, they almost always. 133 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 3: Won, correct, Whereas now it's changed drastically. You scored thirty 134 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 3: one in Cincinnati and it wasn't enough to get done. 135 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:27,479 Speaker 3: You scored twenty five against Green Bay and you lost 136 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:30,480 Speaker 3: by two possessions, by double digits, And matt it is 137 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:33,359 Speaker 3: the third highest over under? 138 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 1: Is it? 139 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:37,960 Speaker 3: For no part of me? Second? No third? I was right? 140 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:41,920 Speaker 3: Third highest over under of the Sunday slate? Is this 141 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 3: one at fifty and a half? The only ones that 142 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:47,360 Speaker 3: are higher are Chiefs and Bills that make sense, and 143 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:50,040 Speaker 3: Bears and Bengals they don't because they don't play. 144 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:52,920 Speaker 2: The Bengals are always gonna be high. 145 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:54,560 Speaker 3: So I am with you on that. 146 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:54,800 Speaker 2: Well. 147 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 3: Obviously at the end of this hour give our final 148 00:06:56,680 --> 00:06:59,560 Speaker 3: score predictions. But yeah, it ain't gonna be seventeen fourteen. 149 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:02,719 Speaker 3: It can be your favorite thirteen to nine joke to 150 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 3: make it my expense all the time. 151 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 2: And you just can't view it that way coming into 152 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 2: the game and coach that way and just assume that 153 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:11,640 Speaker 2: that's how the game's going to go, because it's very 154 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:12,840 Speaker 2: unlikely to right now. 155 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:16,920 Speaker 3: And I think you hit the You phrased it in 156 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:18,840 Speaker 3: a perfect way when we were talking to Missy Matthews 157 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 3: in the first hour. The way the offensive line is 158 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 3: played the way Jalen Warren is played, the confidence that 159 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:28,880 Speaker 3: they certainly have in DK Metcalf and Calvin Austin and 160 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 3: maybe now in Roman Wilson as well, and the tight 161 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 3: ends that it hasn't been consistent, but they've all had 162 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:36,080 Speaker 3: their moments where they've. 163 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:40,160 Speaker 2: Shown collectively they've been collectively been a strong room. 164 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:42,640 Speaker 3: I don't even want to say that this is the 165 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:44,800 Speaker 3: week that you like cut it loose, because you don't 166 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:48,520 Speaker 3: go from the numbers. Back this up the thirty second 167 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:52,000 Speaker 3: of thirty two teams in terms of conservative play calling 168 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:54,600 Speaker 3: and fourth down aggressiveness and that type of thing all 169 00:07:54,640 --> 00:07:56,720 Speaker 3: of a sudden into the top five or the top ten. 170 00:07:57,400 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 3: But there's got to be more of a trust factor 171 00:07:59,840 --> 00:08:02,200 Speaker 3: with offensive line. Now, there's got to be more of 172 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 3: a trust factor with everybody else, all the other playmakers, 173 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 3: running backs, tight ends, wide receivers around Aaron Rodgers. 174 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 2: You got two months of working with Rogers too, Right. 175 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:13,680 Speaker 3: Let's see it again. I'm not saying you go Dan 176 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:16,280 Speaker 3: Campbell and every fourth down that's not fourth and long. 177 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:19,560 Speaker 3: We're going for it and hyper aggressive. But let's meet 178 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:20,280 Speaker 3: in the middle somewhere. 179 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 2: I think, yeah, I think you don't default the punting 180 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 2: or field goals or you know, fourth and one. 181 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 3: Boss can make this no problem. Let's just take the points. 182 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:31,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's a not a losing but a 183 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:34,600 Speaker 2: risky way to play this game, you know. And again 184 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:37,439 Speaker 2: I might try a fake punt or something goofy. I 185 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:39,680 Speaker 2: know you can't do like surprise on sides anymore, but 186 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 2: somewhere I want to steal one, especially if I haven't, 187 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 2: you know, been winning the turnover battle drastically. Now. I 188 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 2: don't mind if they throw quite a bit because a 189 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:53,040 Speaker 2: lot of their quick throws, the Rogers throws are high completion. 190 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:57,800 Speaker 2: They can keep the clock moving. But I also can't 191 00:08:57,920 --> 00:09:01,000 Speaker 2: live with you're running the ball. You come out of 192 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:03,320 Speaker 2: the half and Warren gets three carries in a second half, 193 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:05,160 Speaker 2: you know, like, ain't gonna got it. I mean, you're 194 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:07,680 Speaker 2: just begging to put your defense in a bad situation 195 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 2: and they're already in a bad situation. 196 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:11,839 Speaker 3: And that's something that you and I have discussed a 197 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:13,720 Speaker 3: couple times this week. I talked about that on DV 198 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:16,600 Speaker 3: Today with Chad Tyson. I do this quick hitter thing, 199 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:19,199 Speaker 3: just a short like three four minute with Chad Tyson 200 00:09:19,480 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 3: where he fires off a bunch of sale questions, and 201 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 3: one of them was on the along the lines of like, 202 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:28,720 Speaker 3: how do you protect this defense? How do you insulate 203 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 3: this defense? And I was like, I understand. Every time 204 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:32,800 Speaker 3: we bring this up, I was like, I might need 205 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:34,680 Speaker 3: more than twenty seconds to answer this question. 206 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:36,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, this is a big picture. 207 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:38,200 Speaker 3: Because every time we bring this up, everyone's like, well, 208 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:40,160 Speaker 3: how can you blame the offense. They're the side of 209 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 3: the football that's doing their job there. We're not blaming 210 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:43,760 Speaker 3: the offense. 211 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 2: But you a team game. 212 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:49,000 Speaker 3: It's a team game. And the same way Matt I 213 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:52,240 Speaker 3: used this example with you earlier in the season. I 214 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:54,719 Speaker 3: always remember that it was two or three years ago 215 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:56,880 Speaker 3: when the Steelers went down to Miami for Sunday Night 216 00:09:56,880 --> 00:10:00,319 Speaker 3: football and they lost like a seventeen to fourt team, 217 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:05,040 Speaker 3: you know, nineteen to thirteen whatever. The final score was 218 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:07,720 Speaker 3: a low scoring game to Miami where Kenny Pickett through 219 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:10,840 Speaker 3: three interceptions, the last one really bad. When the Steelers 220 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:13,079 Speaker 3: had a chance to win the game, and the Steelers 221 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:15,080 Speaker 3: defense kept them in it, kept them in it. Yeah, 222 00:10:15,080 --> 00:10:17,680 Speaker 3: but they didn't force the splash plays. And Mike Tomlin 223 00:10:17,679 --> 00:10:20,080 Speaker 3: at his postgame press conference, the first thing he said was, well, 224 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:22,280 Speaker 3: the difference in that game was their defense got takeaways 225 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 3: and ours did it. And in the back of my mind, 226 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:27,480 Speaker 3: I'm like, coach, really, like, you know, like your quarterback 227 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:31,320 Speaker 3: threw three interceptions, the last one really bad when you 228 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:32,760 Speaker 3: had a chance to win the game, and we're gonna 229 00:10:32,760 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 3: throw the defense under the bus. But then when you 230 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 3: step back and think about it, it's not throwing that 231 00:10:36,920 --> 00:10:38,559 Speaker 3: He knows what it takes for them to win. 232 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, he doesn't. 233 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:43,640 Speaker 3: He doesn't expect the offense. He it's the defense who 234 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:45,880 Speaker 3: has to grab the other unit by the caller, yeah, 235 00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:48,880 Speaker 3: and drag them to victory. Whereas when he spoke on 236 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:50,679 Speaker 3: this Tuesday and he talked about we got to get 237 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 3: in the end zone more often as opposed to settling 238 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 3: for threes, I'm hoping that that shoe is on the 239 00:10:55,559 --> 00:10:57,640 Speaker 3: other foot now that it has to be the offense. 240 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:00,520 Speaker 3: It's not blaming the offense, but it's saying, hey, at 241 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:03,520 Speaker 3: this point in time, we expect more from you. We 242 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:04,280 Speaker 3: need more from. 243 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:06,520 Speaker 2: You, right because you're the better unit. Because you're the 244 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 2: better I mean, and the defense was the better unit then, 245 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:11,960 Speaker 2: and about Miami game, I'm certain of it, absolutely, and 246 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:13,679 Speaker 2: it's got to be hard for him, you know, because 247 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:17,040 Speaker 2: it's been half a decade where you've had to play 248 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:20,120 Speaker 2: a certain way week after week, seventeen games a year 249 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:21,959 Speaker 2: and then into the playoffs. And that's a tough way 250 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:25,040 Speaker 2: to live. But you knew we can't lose a turnover battle. 251 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:27,880 Speaker 2: We can't live up twenty points. Like the numbers that 252 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:31,000 Speaker 2: back that stuff up are crazy over a five year stretch. 253 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:33,760 Speaker 2: Basically since Ben's elbow surgery. Is if you lose a 254 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:38,280 Speaker 2: turnover battle, you lose. If you give up twenty you'll lose. Okay, Well, 255 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:41,400 Speaker 2: at least I know what lane I have to stay in. 256 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:44,400 Speaker 2: The lane have changed, yes, yeah, I mean they definitely 257 00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:45,400 Speaker 2: have one. 258 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:47,360 Speaker 3: And I know a lot of people that are listening 259 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:50,480 Speaker 3: to this, whether you're listening you know, live on S 260 00:11:50,559 --> 00:11:53,360 Speaker 3: and R back in podcast mode, whether you hopped onto 261 00:11:53,400 --> 00:11:57,760 Speaker 3: YouTube to see Matt and I's Goofy Halloween intro, you're 262 00:11:57,760 --> 00:12:01,840 Speaker 3: probably thinking, well, the Steelers coaching staff, Mike Tomlin, they're stubborn, 263 00:12:01,880 --> 00:12:03,560 Speaker 3: they dig their heels in and they do it their way, 264 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:06,200 Speaker 3: and to an extent, I'm not going to push back 265 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:09,960 Speaker 3: on that, sure, but they he coached and they operated 266 00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:12,400 Speaker 3: completely like we talk about the last five years and 267 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:15,280 Speaker 3: how it needs to to start to evolve. Before those 268 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:18,160 Speaker 3: five years, it was when it was Ben, When it 269 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 3: was Ben, when it was Bell, when it was Brown, 270 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:23,400 Speaker 3: when it was one of the best offenses in the league. 271 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:26,040 Speaker 3: They operated as we got to score thirty some points 272 00:12:26,040 --> 00:12:26,440 Speaker 3: a game. 273 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:30,199 Speaker 2: To win, things like score on the opening uh drive 274 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:32,280 Speaker 2: and go to go for two exactly. 275 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:35,160 Speaker 3: When you when you have Ben, a Hall of fame quarterback, 276 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:38,600 Speaker 3: and ab antics off the field a side, a hall 277 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 3: of Fame wide receiver, Lev Bell, who was you know 278 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:44,080 Speaker 3: in the league, was the best back in the league 279 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:46,720 Speaker 3: for a handful of years. You had a offensive line 280 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:49,439 Speaker 3: with I don't know if Poundcier to cast her over 281 00:12:49,480 --> 00:12:51,040 Speaker 3: get into the Hall of Fame, but they're in the 282 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:55,680 Speaker 3: Hall of really good exactly right. And and and alvil 283 00:12:55,800 --> 00:12:58,120 Speaker 3: Nueva was a two time pro bowler, and you know, 284 00:12:58,160 --> 00:13:03,360 Speaker 3: remote fossilers, really good Miller. I mean, they were able 285 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:07,600 Speaker 3: to switch their philosophy from the typical Mike Tomlin way 286 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:11,160 Speaker 3: of playing before that and after that. It's been bookended 287 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:15,160 Speaker 3: by this score twenty points, hold them to you know, 288 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:18,920 Speaker 3: to just one or two touchdowns. That is the one 289 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:21,160 Speaker 3: part of this that gives me, gives me some optimism, 290 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:24,800 Speaker 3: gives me some faith. I've seen Mike Tomlin change his 291 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:25,920 Speaker 3: hand of cards before. 292 00:13:26,080 --> 00:13:27,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think people forget it's. 293 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:29,480 Speaker 3: Been a while. It's been a while, but we have 294 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:32,680 Speaker 3: seen them do it before. And I'm not even saying 295 00:13:32,679 --> 00:13:34,360 Speaker 3: again that it has to be that drastic now, but 296 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:38,440 Speaker 3: maybe it's time to start. Hey, for five years we 297 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:40,720 Speaker 3: had red paint, and we painted the barn red. But 298 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:44,080 Speaker 3: now we have blue paint, and we gotta start painting 299 00:13:44,160 --> 00:13:45,160 Speaker 3: some of these panels blue. 300 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:48,199 Speaker 2: Yeah, and in some ways that's good. You actually have 301 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:50,600 Speaker 2: a quarterback, you know, like. 302 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:52,600 Speaker 3: You got an offense that can score thirty right. 303 00:13:52,640 --> 00:13:56,080 Speaker 2: If this was the offense from that pick at Miami, goodness, 304 00:13:56,600 --> 00:13:58,640 Speaker 2: they'd be one win team, you know what I mean, 305 00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:02,080 Speaker 2: you wouldn't have the ability to change at least they do, 306 00:14:02,360 --> 00:14:04,200 Speaker 2: so they do. And oh, by the way, the defense 307 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:07,319 Speaker 2: can play better. So I mean that's allowed to. 308 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:11,680 Speaker 3: That is that is absolutely allowed, and in fact it's needed. 309 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:14,200 Speaker 3: And we're not even saying that the defense has to 310 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:16,400 Speaker 3: get to preseason expectations or they're one of the best 311 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:19,680 Speaker 3: units in the league. But if they can, if they 312 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:22,960 Speaker 3: can be average on defense, and what this offense is doing. 313 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:26,200 Speaker 3: I mean this, that's how you get back into winning 314 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:28,680 Speaker 3: some games and feeling like we felt about this team 315 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:30,000 Speaker 3: a couple of weeks ago when they were sitting at 316 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:32,240 Speaker 3: four and one and looked like they had a clear 317 00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 3: path the hosting a playoff game. Maybe that's getting a 318 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:38,400 Speaker 3: little bit murkier. Baltimore Ravens took care of business last 319 00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:41,480 Speaker 3: night down in Miami. When we return on the other side, 320 00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:45,320 Speaker 3: before we finished with Steelers and Colts, thoughts and predictions, 321 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:48,480 Speaker 3: we will go around the league talk about that big 322 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:50,800 Speaker 3: win for the Ravens last night, these other games on 323 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:54,240 Speaker 3: the Sunday slate around the NFL when we return. As 324 00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:56,440 Speaker 3: we continue to roll along here on a Friday, West Huler, 325 00:14:56,640 --> 00:14:59,040 Speaker 3: Matt Williamson, it is the Drive on Steelers Nation Radio, 326 00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:07,600 Speaker 3: on the Steelers, your network, your. 327 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:10,160 Speaker 1: Tunes about Drive on your twenty four to seven home 328 00:15:10,200 --> 00:16:03,960 Speaker 1: of the Black and Goal, Steelers Nation Radio. 329 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:47,520 Speaker 3: Down the home stretch here and it's time to go around 330 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:49,400 Speaker 3: the league. But before we do that, Matt, I wanted 331 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:51,960 Speaker 3: to make sure to mention pretty cool weekend on tap 332 00:15:52,040 --> 00:15:54,440 Speaker 3: for the Steelers. Obviously, it's a big game against the 333 00:15:54,520 --> 00:15:58,280 Speaker 3: Colts on Sunday, but this is also, and this is 334 00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:00,320 Speaker 3: making me feel old. I'm sure you'll say that same. 335 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 3: It's the twenty year Reunion celebration weekend for the Steelers' 336 00:16:03,920 --> 00:16:07,080 Speaker 3: Super Bowl forty champion teams, the one for the Thumb 337 00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:12,000 Speaker 3: Jerome Bettison Detroit team twenty years. Of course, Super Bowl 338 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:15,440 Speaker 3: sixty coming up here in February. It is alumni weekend 339 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:18,800 Speaker 3: for the Steelers. With that they're honoring the twentieth anniversary 340 00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:21,680 Speaker 3: of the team. Myself and Rob King will be down 341 00:16:21,720 --> 00:16:24,280 Speaker 3: there at the dinner tomorrow night at five thirty cool 342 00:16:24,520 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 3: broadcasting on the Steelers Audio Network on Steelers Next Radio here. 343 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:30,280 Speaker 3: You know, it's funny. I've done a couple of those 344 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:33,360 Speaker 3: in the past, and it's always pretty intimidating for me. Yeah, 345 00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:36,120 Speaker 3: because you're there with all the who's who of the 346 00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:38,040 Speaker 3: mean Joe's and the mel blunts. Yeah. 347 00:16:38,040 --> 00:16:40,800 Speaker 2: I did one, did one and it was like the 348 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:43,720 Speaker 2: seventy ninth anniversary yesh, yeah, seventy nine team. It was 349 00:16:43,760 --> 00:16:44,880 Speaker 2: all the big time. 350 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:47,200 Speaker 3: Which, as you can imagine, this is all before my lifetime. 351 00:16:47,400 --> 00:16:49,800 Speaker 2: This is similar because like I was a pop whenever 352 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:51,080 Speaker 2: they were awesome. 353 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:53,840 Speaker 3: I am so looking forward to tomorrow night because that's 354 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:54,560 Speaker 3: my wheelhouse. 355 00:16:54,640 --> 00:16:54,800 Speaker 2: Man. 356 00:16:55,200 --> 00:16:57,440 Speaker 3: That's a that's there was a freshman in high school 357 00:16:57,440 --> 00:16:59,040 Speaker 3: and that team won the Super Bowl, Like I had, 358 00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:02,160 Speaker 3: you know, I like I really started to fall in 359 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:05,119 Speaker 3: love with the football and Steelers and WU when I 360 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:07,399 Speaker 3: was in like sixth grade, and so this was like 361 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:12,480 Speaker 3: the first team I cared about that won a championship. Age. 362 00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:15,320 Speaker 3: It was really good at a great age. These guys 363 00:17:15,320 --> 00:17:17,320 Speaker 3: are again, like I'm telling I've told you this before, 364 00:17:17,320 --> 00:17:19,840 Speaker 3: I've shared this before. Takes a lot to the businesses 365 00:17:19,840 --> 00:17:21,280 Speaker 3: that we work in, Like it takes a lot to 366 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:24,800 Speaker 3: star strike me for me to get starstruck, but a 367 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:28,000 Speaker 3: lot of these guys, Oh my goodness, Like this is 368 00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:30,320 Speaker 3: my wheelhouse. These are the guys that were my heroes 369 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:33,199 Speaker 3: growing up. And I'm very excited to It'll just be 370 00:17:33,280 --> 00:17:35,760 Speaker 3: like it's like speed dating. Like they'll they'll pull these 371 00:17:35,800 --> 00:17:38,959 Speaker 3: guys like every ten minutes, one of them to sit 372 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:40,080 Speaker 3: down with Rob King and. 373 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:42,520 Speaker 2: Everybody else around and they're all laughing and joking with 374 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:43,000 Speaker 2: each other. 375 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:45,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm very excited because, like I said, I mean, 376 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:48,159 Speaker 3: this is my wheelhouse. This is when I was a 377 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:51,399 Speaker 3: die hard sleep with my terrible towel the night before 378 00:17:51,480 --> 00:17:54,639 Speaker 3: the game Steeler fan and uh and these guys the 379 00:17:54,640 --> 00:17:57,359 Speaker 3: first team in my lifetime to Yeah, the Penguins won 380 00:17:57,440 --> 00:17:59,240 Speaker 3: some Cups when I was in diapers. The first the 381 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:02,320 Speaker 3: first team that I could really follow and enjoy and 382 00:18:02,359 --> 00:18:05,280 Speaker 3: love to win a championship in my lifetime. So Rob 383 00:18:05,359 --> 00:18:07,760 Speaker 3: King and I will have the broadcast tomorrow night, five 384 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:11,119 Speaker 3: thirty Eastern Standard time on Steelers Nation Radio on the 385 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:14,080 Speaker 3: Steelers Audio Network. And also big shout out to the 386 00:18:14,080 --> 00:18:17,520 Speaker 3: Steelers video team Matt Yeah to watch a one for 387 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:21,639 Speaker 3: the Thumb Steelers story documentary that I am going to 388 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:24,760 Speaker 3: watch tonight to gear myself up for tomorrow as well. 389 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:29,080 Speaker 3: Everybody involved with those Nate Emial our guy TV does 390 00:18:29,119 --> 00:18:32,840 Speaker 3: stuff there, Alec Jason, It's a whole crew of Craig, 391 00:18:32,920 --> 00:18:34,639 Speaker 3: a bunch of people that I'm probably forgetting that I 392 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:35,800 Speaker 3: should be naming as well too. 393 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:37,320 Speaker 2: I get the impression they put a lot of work 394 00:18:37,359 --> 00:18:39,080 Speaker 2: into this one too. They do One's awesome. 395 00:18:39,119 --> 00:18:40,919 Speaker 3: They do a ton of stuff behind the scenes with 396 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:44,200 Speaker 3: all these cool interviews, cool stories. So that's up now 397 00:18:44,240 --> 00:18:46,680 Speaker 3: on the Steelers YouTube page on Steelers dot com. One 398 00:18:46,760 --> 00:18:49,520 Speaker 3: for the Thumb it's twenty years. 399 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:50,960 Speaker 2: Man, that's the same man. It makes you feel old. 400 00:18:51,160 --> 00:18:52,480 Speaker 3: It really makes you feel I. 401 00:18:52,560 --> 00:18:53,680 Speaker 2: Was just sitting there. I'm like, what was I doing 402 00:18:53,720 --> 00:18:58,199 Speaker 2: twenty years ago? It's thirty three, my Whitehead kids. I 403 00:18:58,240 --> 00:19:02,600 Speaker 2: bet my son was probably in his mom's womb. This 404 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:05,600 Speaker 2: about this big probably so I'm like about to be 405 00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:07,919 Speaker 2: a dad and like, okay, that's probably about right. But 406 00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:09,400 Speaker 2: I was in this business. I mean, I was working 407 00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:09,959 Speaker 2: for ESPN. 408 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:13,600 Speaker 3: I was a freshman in high school living living the dream. 409 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:17,200 Speaker 3: Baby as as my Pittsburg Stiller's got one for the thumb, 410 00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:19,919 Speaker 3: and yeah, that'll be a lot of fun. This weekend 411 00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:21,560 Speaker 3: is kind of a I mean, I was gonna say 412 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:22,960 Speaker 3: side story, but I don't even know if it's a 413 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:25,399 Speaker 3: side story. With everything going on, that's going to be 414 00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:27,440 Speaker 3: front and center. And obviously if you're going to the 415 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:32,119 Speaker 3: game a half times, that's that was kind of the 416 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:33,879 Speaker 3: last piece of what I was going to say. Sorry, 417 00:19:34,560 --> 00:19:37,640 Speaker 3: of course, if you're at the game Sunday, don't rush 418 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:39,840 Speaker 3: to the bathroom or rush to grab another drink at halftime, 419 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:41,280 Speaker 3: because you might want to see the big You might 420 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:43,240 Speaker 3: want to see the ceremony for these guys, which is 421 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:44,200 Speaker 3: going to be pretty cool. 422 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:46,359 Speaker 2: And this doesn't help them block and tackle and game 423 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:48,280 Speaker 2: plan and all that. But I do think you feel 424 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:53,119 Speaker 2: their presence on game day. If you're even Rogers and 425 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:56,120 Speaker 2: cam that have been around or Rodgers probably played against 426 00:19:56,119 --> 00:19:58,439 Speaker 2: somebody's They definitely played against somebody you know in some 427 00:19:58,480 --> 00:19:58,920 Speaker 2: way shape. 428 00:19:58,920 --> 00:19:59,560 Speaker 3: It's a great point. 429 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:05,119 Speaker 2: But still I'm sure the players recognize who's in the building. 430 00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:08,560 Speaker 3: Absolutely. Absolutely. There's been a lot of that magic on 431 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:09,920 Speaker 3: these alumni weekends in. 432 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:12,560 Speaker 2: The past, the Immacular Reception Game, the Immaculate. 433 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:15,399 Speaker 3: Reception Game where the Steelers scored in the final minute 434 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:18,040 Speaker 3: to win it. And hopefully we get some more of 435 00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:21,200 Speaker 3: that mojo, some more of that magic from these Super 436 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:23,360 Speaker 3: Bowl forty champions who will be in town and being 437 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:27,160 Speaker 3: honored for their twentieth anniversary this weekend. Matt, the Ravens 438 00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:29,840 Speaker 3: took care of business last night, twenty eight to six. Yeah, 439 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 3: they moved to three and five. All the sun worried 440 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:36,040 Speaker 3: all of a sudden. I mean, you lose the. 441 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:37,919 Speaker 2: Colts, so all of a sudden, it's a one game different. 442 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:39,520 Speaker 3: One game difference. Even if you beat the Colts, it's 443 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:41,440 Speaker 3: only a two game difference. So we still have two 444 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:46,400 Speaker 3: games against Baltimore. Yeah, I don't think they're going away. Unfortunately, 445 00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:48,160 Speaker 3: as much as we would have liked to have kind 446 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:51,000 Speaker 3: of coasted here, with two losses in a row for 447 00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:53,600 Speaker 3: the Steelers, two wins in a row for Baltimore, that 448 00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:56,560 Speaker 3: margin for air is zapping up pretty quickly. 449 00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:59,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, one hundred percent. And I posted this thing. I 450 00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:04,359 Speaker 2: just retweeted what Warren Sharp put out because to this point, 451 00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:08,280 Speaker 2: the Ravens have faced the twenty ninth easiest, so the 452 00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:09,920 Speaker 2: third hardest schedule. 453 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:11,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't like this. I know you sent this 454 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:12,960 Speaker 3: to me this morning. I don't like this. 455 00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:18,040 Speaker 2: Not great. And going forward they face the sixth easiest. Meanwhile, 456 00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:21,600 Speaker 2: in case your court curious, the Steelers were the twenty 457 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:25,920 Speaker 2: second easiest to this point. So a hard schedule, and 458 00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:28,879 Speaker 2: it gets harder, it becomes the twenty fifth easiest. So 459 00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:33,760 Speaker 2: you never know. I mean, when the schedule came out, 460 00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:36,320 Speaker 2: you thought you're getting burrowed twice and you're not, et cetera, 461 00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:39,520 Speaker 2: et cetera. And obviously those Steeler raven games are gonna loom. 462 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:42,480 Speaker 2: But they've won two in a row. And I didn't 463 00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:46,360 Speaker 2: think the Ravens even played that great early in the game. Frankly, Miami, 464 00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:50,280 Speaker 2: just as usual, just blew a lot of opportunities and 465 00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:53,600 Speaker 2: self destructive things, and I do think it's noteworthy that 466 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:58,359 Speaker 2: I want to throw us out there. They the Dolphins 467 00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:02,399 Speaker 2: parted ways, didn't use the word fired. Mutually decide the 468 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:04,840 Speaker 2: part ways the third GM, but not their code. I'm 469 00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:09,679 Speaker 2: glad you brought this up because tuesday's the trade deadline deadline. Thursday, 470 00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:12,439 Speaker 2: they're done, so they have more time to deal with 471 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:14,679 Speaker 2: this stuff than any they just lost. I assume the 472 00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:18,080 Speaker 2: Dolphins will be a seller, but I wonder if the 473 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:22,399 Speaker 2: owner and former GM were torn on should we trade Phillip, 474 00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:24,320 Speaker 2: should we trade Wattle? No, I don't trade that guy. 475 00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:25,240 Speaker 2: Trade that guy. 476 00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:25,560 Speaker 3: Now. 477 00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:28,520 Speaker 2: Whoever, whoever's in charge now is gonna do whatever whatever 478 00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:31,679 Speaker 2: they want that may change their tone a little bit, I. 479 00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:34,040 Speaker 3: Would figure out. I would think it would make them 480 00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:35,479 Speaker 3: a much larger seller. 481 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:38,680 Speaker 2: I would assume that's what I'm thinking too, because maybe 482 00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:40,919 Speaker 2: I'm not saying Jaylen Waddles would be a Steeler on Tuesday, 483 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:42,960 Speaker 2: but yeah, right, if he's the one. 484 00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:44,679 Speaker 3: That there's a lot of pieces on that team that 485 00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:47,280 Speaker 3: any team, any playoff team would be interested in. 486 00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:49,760 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, there's five guys you could you could pluck 487 00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:52,280 Speaker 2: off that team and make yourself better, no question about it. 488 00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:55,040 Speaker 2: But I think everyone's aware of this. The Ravens aren't 489 00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:58,160 Speaker 2: dead yet at all, not dead yet. 490 00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:01,359 Speaker 3: Not dead yet, and we're feeling better. 491 00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:04,880 Speaker 2: It's a little worrisome too. You always lose this week, 492 00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:07,520 Speaker 2: and the math, all of a sudden, is not nearly 493 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:08,720 Speaker 2: in your favor as it once was. 494 00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:12,479 Speaker 3: Man, things happened quickly in this league. Let's get into it. 495 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:17,040 Speaker 3: The first November Sunday, roads starting to narrow. Turkey's gonna 496 00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:18,440 Speaker 3: be on the table here in a couple of weeks. 497 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:23,080 Speaker 3: Before we know it. The Bears are in Cincinnata. Maybe 498 00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:26,080 Speaker 3: this is kind of an elimination type game. Yeah, teams, 499 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:28,360 Speaker 3: since if you get back to four and five, you're 500 00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:31,360 Speaker 3: still hanging around the Bears. If you fall to four 501 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:33,320 Speaker 3: and four, I gues you're not out of it, but 502 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:38,320 Speaker 3: it's gonna be tough. That NFC playoff picture Chicagoy two 503 00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:40,440 Speaker 3: and a half point favored in Cincinnati. 504 00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:46,239 Speaker 2: Torn on this one. Neither one's playing great defense. I 505 00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:49,040 Speaker 2: do think Flacco will do. I think there could be 506 00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:49,960 Speaker 2: a lot of points in this game. 507 00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:52,920 Speaker 3: Second highest over under it. Yeah said that before, behind 508 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:54,000 Speaker 3: only Chiefs Bills. 509 00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:58,199 Speaker 2: I guess I'll take the Bears, but very reluctantly. I 510 00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:00,560 Speaker 2: don't love given points on the road. I think are 511 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:01,800 Speaker 2: pretty equal teams. 512 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:03,840 Speaker 3: I think I'm gonna take. I think I'm gonna lay 513 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:06,280 Speaker 3: the points with Cincinnati. I'll oppose you on this one. 514 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:08,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, I wouldn't touch it. 515 00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:11,400 Speaker 3: I just feel like Chicago two has been much better 516 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:13,000 Speaker 3: at home than they have been on the road, and 517 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:14,720 Speaker 3: that's typical of a young team. 518 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:17,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, that makes sense, young quarterback. 519 00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:20,040 Speaker 3: You know, first time head coach. I like that number, though, 520 00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:21,720 Speaker 3: if the numbers three and a half, i'd take the 521 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:23,800 Speaker 3: points for Chicago at two and a half. I'm gonna 522 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:26,520 Speaker 3: lay him with Cincinnati. One of the bigger spreads of 523 00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:30,440 Speaker 3: the weekend. Tied for the second biggest spread of the weekend. 524 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:34,560 Speaker 3: The Lions hosts the Vikings in Detroit, Matt What ad 525 00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:36,720 Speaker 3: the Lions do to bad team? 526 00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:37,640 Speaker 2: Beat him? 527 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:42,040 Speaker 3: Bad? A bad team? Yeah, but they're very shaky at 528 00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:44,200 Speaker 3: the quarterback position, which is not what you want to 529 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:45,520 Speaker 3: be against this Lions group. 530 00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:48,560 Speaker 2: And McCarthy returns McCarthy or at least get some more 531 00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:51,240 Speaker 2: data on him. I haven't loved to I have seen 532 00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:53,400 Speaker 2: this thus far. I didn't love him coming out of Michigan. 533 00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:55,680 Speaker 2: I think this is a brutal game to come back 534 00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:57,280 Speaker 2: to too. I'm gonna take the Lions. 535 00:24:57,440 --> 00:24:59,240 Speaker 3: I might. I might lay the points on this one, 536 00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:02,360 Speaker 3: just because a division game double digit, I mean nine 537 00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:04,080 Speaker 3: and a half, it means they win by ten. That's 538 00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:06,480 Speaker 3: a big number for a division game. It is, and 539 00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:12,000 Speaker 3: I could see another scenario where Detroit is up fourteen 540 00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:14,880 Speaker 3: late in the Vikings score a touchdown that doesn't matter, 541 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:17,280 Speaker 3: and they end up back or covering something like that. 542 00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:21,480 Speaker 3: I don't know, though, what does Detroit doing these type 543 00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:23,360 Speaker 3: of games they blow teams out. I'm with you, I'll 544 00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:25,280 Speaker 3: lay the points with the Lions. I'll lay the points 545 00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:30,080 Speaker 3: with the Lions. Packers at home biggest spread. Uh no, sorry, 546 00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:32,320 Speaker 3: part of me. There is a couple couple big ones 547 00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:35,800 Speaker 3: this weekend, So Lions Viking's third biggest spread. This is 548 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:38,040 Speaker 3: the second biggest spread of the weekend. The Packers hosting 549 00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:42,000 Speaker 3: the Panthers at Lambeau. Twelve and a half point favorites 550 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:42,560 Speaker 3: are green Bay. 551 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:46,280 Speaker 2: Oh seems like a lot. I am impressed though with 552 00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:49,240 Speaker 2: green Bay for sure. I think they're hitting a shride 553 00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:51,439 Speaker 2: at the right time. I thought Jordan Love played a 554 00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:55,359 Speaker 2: great game Steeler defensive side. I'll take the Packers, but 555 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:57,639 Speaker 2: that's a big number. I mean, Carolina usually runs the 556 00:25:57,680 --> 00:25:59,879 Speaker 2: ball pretty well. 557 00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:02,679 Speaker 3: I think I'm gonna take the points on this one. 558 00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:05,800 Speaker 3: Green Bay coming off of an emotional victory, right, come 559 00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:09,600 Speaker 3: from behind, emotional victory against their old quarterback, two of 560 00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:13,000 Speaker 3: the biggest brands in all of American sports, Sunday night football, 561 00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:15,800 Speaker 3: come back, win, all those different things. Green Bay gets 562 00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:18,640 Speaker 3: it done, but Carolina finds a way to keep it, 563 00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:21,480 Speaker 3: you know, within ten points or so, I'll take. I'll 564 00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:24,800 Speaker 3: take the plus twelve and a half. With the Panthers 565 00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:27,280 Speaker 3: the Titans hosting the Chargers. This is one of the 566 00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:30,720 Speaker 3: bigger road favorite spreads that you'll see all all year. 567 00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:33,960 Speaker 3: It makes sense though, in Nashville, in Music City, the 568 00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:36,280 Speaker 3: Chargers are nine and a half point favorites on the road. 569 00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:40,520 Speaker 2: I hate taking all these big favorites this week spreads, 570 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:43,040 Speaker 2: and I just think Tennessee's broke. 571 00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:47,600 Speaker 3: I think that they are you know, can coon on 572 00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:50,400 Speaker 3: three yes, the reference that the athletes say, right when 573 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:53,800 Speaker 3: you're already thinking about your offseason plans. Can coon on 574 00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:56,520 Speaker 3: three boys? I think the Chargers. 575 00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:59,000 Speaker 2: Role I do too. Chargers are pretty good spot. 576 00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:01,960 Speaker 3: They are, they have navigated I think the toughest stretch 577 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:04,640 Speaker 3: of their schedule. They got Joe Alt backed big, They're 578 00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:07,359 Speaker 3: they're they're playing there, They're I think it's coming together 579 00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:10,400 Speaker 3: for them at the right time. Falcons are in New England. 580 00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:13,560 Speaker 3: This one kind of seems like some rat poison to me, Matt. 581 00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:15,879 Speaker 3: This feels like a line that's good, too good to 582 00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:18,160 Speaker 3: be true. The Patriots only a five and a half 583 00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:20,320 Speaker 3: point favorite over the Falcons. I thought that would have 584 00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:21,720 Speaker 3: been more like seven and a half. 585 00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:24,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think it's because Atlanta's so up and down, 586 00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:26,800 Speaker 2: Like they've had a couple of really nice wins and 587 00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:27,720 Speaker 2: a couple nice. 588 00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:30,600 Speaker 3: Jeon plays well and they keep you off the field, and. 589 00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:32,520 Speaker 2: They need to feature him more. And I don't quite 590 00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:36,840 Speaker 2: understand why. I still think the Patriots are a bit 591 00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:39,320 Speaker 2: of a fugazy I don't think they're as good as 592 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:41,720 Speaker 2: a record, and they probably won't be. They're good on 593 00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:44,200 Speaker 2: both sides of the ball. I'm gonna take the Pats. 594 00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:48,199 Speaker 3: I am too, but I worry about that. I'd like this. 595 00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:50,720 Speaker 3: I'd like this a lot more if it was, you know, 596 00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:53,280 Speaker 3: New England plus seven and a half and I could 597 00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:55,760 Speaker 3: take the points with the Falcons. But now I'll lay 598 00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:58,240 Speaker 3: five and a half. I will lay five and a half, begrudgingly. 599 00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:02,880 Speaker 3: The giants are at home. This scataboo, this giant giants. Now, 600 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:04,639 Speaker 3: no neighbors, no scataboo. 601 00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:05,560 Speaker 2: Yeh, it's getting pretty thick. 602 00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:07,800 Speaker 3: Pet's heads are falling off. That's a dumb and dumber 603 00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:11,240 Speaker 3: reference for you, right there. Forty nine ers across the country, 604 00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:14,399 Speaker 3: Matt for one of those vaunted everybody struggles except for 605 00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:17,399 Speaker 3: the Seattle Seahawks. Right one o'clock East Coast game. San 606 00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:19,800 Speaker 3: Francisco though a two and a half point favorite. 607 00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:22,359 Speaker 2: Taking the Niners. But I do think that road trip 608 00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:23,600 Speaker 2: is challenging. 609 00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:27,160 Speaker 3: I think it'll be ugly, it'll be low scoring. 610 00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:30,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, I just kind of trust s to get on 611 00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:32,439 Speaker 2: one here. Yeah, you know Kittle's back. I think that 612 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:35,159 Speaker 2: they're trending kind of the right direction. 613 00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:36,720 Speaker 3: It's the right number for me. If it was three 614 00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:39,240 Speaker 3: and a half, yeah, I'd be a little more, a 615 00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:41,200 Speaker 3: little more shy. But at two and a half, I'll 616 00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:44,320 Speaker 3: lay the points with San Francisco. It could be a stinker, certainly, 617 00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:49,400 Speaker 3: could a couple big games here. Uh, well, let's do 618 00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:51,680 Speaker 3: this first. Let's let's let's finish off the one o'clock hour. 619 00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:53,960 Speaker 3: I'll continue to do this in chronological order. This is 620 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:57,880 Speaker 3: a huge one though, Texans hosting the Broncos. Yeah, Broncos, 621 00:28:57,920 --> 00:28:59,720 Speaker 3: I tell you what a special The Chiefs have to 622 00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:01,920 Speaker 3: go to Buffalo. The Broncos will continue to have an 623 00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:05,400 Speaker 3: opportunity to give themselves some cushion in that division. The 624 00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:08,000 Speaker 3: Texans looking to hang on and get back to five hundred. 625 00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:11,000 Speaker 3: Houston a one and a half point favorite, Matt in 626 00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:14,200 Speaker 3: the lowest over under game of the weekend between maybe 627 00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:16,960 Speaker 3: the two best defenses in the NFL. Just forty and 628 00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:19,560 Speaker 3: a half is the over under in this one. Houston 629 00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:20,760 Speaker 3: a one and a half point favorite. 630 00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:22,560 Speaker 2: I thought Denver is gonna be favored, but I'm still 631 00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:25,320 Speaker 2: taking Houston, and again I don't feel strongly about it. 632 00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:28,200 Speaker 2: I think they are the two best defenses in the league. Usually, 633 00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:30,760 Speaker 2: if it's going to be a low slugfest, I'll take points. 634 00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:34,720 Speaker 2: But I'm a stroud believer, and I also think Nico 635 00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:38,440 Speaker 2: Returns certain is out. Yes, I think it's a bad 636 00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:39,680 Speaker 2: week for that to happen. 637 00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:44,200 Speaker 3: If you're Denver, totally yeah, you do listen. You don't 638 00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:46,800 Speaker 3: want to lose pat certain at any time. Sure, especially 639 00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:48,680 Speaker 3: the way that the Texans are playing now on offense 640 00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:52,240 Speaker 3: and getting some reinforcements as well. Into the four o'clock hour, 641 00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:57,800 Speaker 3: Raiders Jags in Viva Las Vegas. Raiders out of their 642 00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:01,320 Speaker 3: bye week, Yeah, show any signs of life. Jacksonville at 643 00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:03,920 Speaker 3: four and three still in a good spot. But if 644 00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:05,880 Speaker 3: you follow four and four, you start to chase it 645 00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:08,480 Speaker 3: a little bit. Jacksonville a two and a half point 646 00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:10,240 Speaker 3: favorite in LA and. 647 00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:12,200 Speaker 2: I hate it. Here in the news, Travis Hunter got 648 00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:15,000 Speaker 2: injured in practiced yesterday and went to IR and I 649 00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:17,800 Speaker 2: was expected him to blow off the second high. I 650 00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:20,760 Speaker 2: thought that to see that, part of me is like 651 00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:24,320 Speaker 2: man Gino Smith and Pete Carroll are better than what 652 00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:27,760 Speaker 2: they showed pre by. They know how to win games league. 653 00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:29,880 Speaker 2: But then I look at like their O line and 654 00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:31,880 Speaker 2: the back seven of their defense, like they don't think 655 00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:35,880 Speaker 2: a good player. I'm taking Jacksonville, but I don't love 656 00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:37,480 Speaker 2: it same. 657 00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:40,680 Speaker 3: I want to give my guy Gino and I want 658 00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:43,400 Speaker 3: to give Pete Carroll a little little grains salt coming 659 00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:46,080 Speaker 3: out of the bye week, but I just don't see 660 00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:48,400 Speaker 3: it for a Raiders team that has you got to 661 00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:50,720 Speaker 3: show me something before I start to believe in it. 662 00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:55,000 Speaker 3: Rams at home hosting the Saints this Matt is the 663 00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:57,880 Speaker 3: biggest spread of the weekend. Fourteen and a half point 664 00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:00,320 Speaker 3: favorites at home or LA can they cover? 665 00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:03,959 Speaker 2: I'm taking the Saints just because I keep taking all 666 00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:07,480 Speaker 2: the favorites. I think the Rams are great. I think 667 00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:08,760 Speaker 2: the Saints nineteen. 668 00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:12,680 Speaker 3: And a half is a massive fourteen. It's that here 669 00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:13,800 Speaker 3: are remotes yelling at us. 670 00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:17,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, crosses my mind when we have these conversations. Shuck's 671 00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:20,680 Speaker 2: gonna start, We'll see. I mean, I don't expect them'd 672 00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:20,960 Speaker 2: be great. 673 00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:22,719 Speaker 3: I would I would love to do that, like pursuit 674 00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:25,000 Speaker 3: of does this goofy kind of stuff with baseball because 675 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:27,040 Speaker 3: he's a gambling dork in a baseball Dirk and they 676 00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:30,360 Speaker 3: play one hundred and sixty two games. One of these years, 677 00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:34,400 Speaker 3: I should bet like five bucks on every team that 678 00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:38,240 Speaker 3: is a every underdog by two possessions or more. Just 679 00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:40,600 Speaker 3: every Sunday, every team that's you know, fourteen and a 680 00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:41,560 Speaker 3: half point dogs. 681 00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:44,120 Speaker 2: Your record at the end of the year, five bucks, YEA. 682 00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:47,880 Speaker 3: Throughout the year. That'd be an I bet you'd come 683 00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:50,120 Speaker 3: out with more money than than you started maybe not 684 00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:52,120 Speaker 3: by a crazy amount, but I bet you'd get a 685 00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:54,480 Speaker 3: little bit more than you would lose Matt the game 686 00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:59,160 Speaker 3: of the week, certainly, especially from outside of a Steeler's perspective. 687 00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:00,880 Speaker 3: I'm kind of ticked off that this one's not the 688 00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:04,240 Speaker 3: night game because I'll still be at the stadium at 689 00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:08,440 Speaker 3: four Orchard Park. That place will be rocking as the 690 00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:11,360 Speaker 3: Bills host the Chiefs. Chiefs a one and a half 691 00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:13,800 Speaker 3: point road favorite over Buffalo. 692 00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:17,320 Speaker 2: And I'm taking them. I don't feel the Bill. Yeah, 693 00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:22,240 Speaker 2: they have certainly have a history. Their Bills run the 694 00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:25,120 Speaker 2: ball really, really well, but I still think the Bills 695 00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:27,640 Speaker 2: defense is by far the weakest of the four units. 696 00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:31,360 Speaker 2: I mean, clearly the other three are quite good and 697 00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:34,960 Speaker 2: two things. I think that they can all come in 698 00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:37,760 Speaker 2: there with their strategies, but by the fourth quarter, it's 699 00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:41,200 Speaker 2: going to be Alan versus Mahomes. Last one get the 700 00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:43,360 Speaker 2: ball wins. Yeah. I mean these two are just going 701 00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:49,080 Speaker 2: to take over and be Superman. Yes, And I'm not 702 00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:51,960 Speaker 2: saying I favor one or the other, but the fact 703 00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:53,920 Speaker 2: that one team is RACI rice now and the other 704 00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:56,760 Speaker 2: one doesn't, I think is enough. I really think the 705 00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:58,040 Speaker 2: Bills are a receiver. 706 00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:01,720 Speaker 3: Short quarterback master class seminar. 707 00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:03,440 Speaker 2: Coming in here, so much fun to watch. 708 00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:06,560 Speaker 3: I'm gonna I'm gonna lay the points with Kansas City too, Matt. 709 00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:08,200 Speaker 3: I told you I wavered on this a little bit 710 00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:10,360 Speaker 3: at the beginning of the season, but I'm back to 711 00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:14,880 Speaker 3: it now. The Chiefs, it's like, as long as they 712 00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:18,040 Speaker 3: have Reid and Mahomes, I'm gonna treat it like Belichick 713 00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:21,840 Speaker 3: and Brady until Monty Python, until the body's cold. I'm 714 00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:24,480 Speaker 3: not gonna They're not dead yet, and in fact that 715 00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:26,120 Speaker 3: I'm gonna pick them to go to the super Bowl. 716 00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:28,600 Speaker 2: Still, yeah, they're my choice right now. I think there 717 00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:31,120 Speaker 2: are lines getting healthier for this game too, and I. 718 00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:33,640 Speaker 3: Know I know that place will be rocking, and you 719 00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:36,360 Speaker 3: can probably you can say Buffaloes do for one against 720 00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:39,840 Speaker 3: Kansas City. But until the Chiefs are, until the Chiefs 721 00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:41,520 Speaker 3: are out of it, I'm gonna continue to pick them. 722 00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:44,320 Speaker 3: Sunday Night Football, last one here, Matt, before we go 723 00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:46,160 Speaker 3: to break and pick the Steelers. On the other side, 724 00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:49,760 Speaker 3: the Commanders at home in a must win spot at 725 00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:52,280 Speaker 3: three years they want to stay in a wild card 726 00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:55,920 Speaker 3: playoff conversation. They've got the five and two Seahawks coming 727 00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:58,920 Speaker 3: to town. Seattle, a lot of road a lot of 728 00:33:58,960 --> 00:33:59,880 Speaker 3: road favorites this week. 729 00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:01,320 Speaker 2: There's some weird lines this week. 730 00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:03,160 Speaker 3: Seattle two and a half point road favorite. 731 00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:06,480 Speaker 2: Daniels is gonna play. Yes, that's a good huge, it's huge, huge. 732 00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:09,040 Speaker 3: I still think I'm laying them with Seattle, though. 733 00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:11,799 Speaker 2: I am too. I am too. Seattle travel travel so well. 734 00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:15,040 Speaker 2: I think their defense is superb and should do a 735 00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:18,759 Speaker 2: pretty good number against a good Washington offense. And Darnold's 736 00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:21,239 Speaker 2: playing great Smith that Jig was playing great. I don't 737 00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:23,960 Speaker 2: love the Washington corners or pass rush. Yeah, I think 738 00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:27,680 Speaker 2: Seattle is just clearly eight tier above Washington, if not too. 739 00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:30,759 Speaker 3: I completely agree, and I think that's gonna play out 740 00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:34,160 Speaker 3: on Sunday night. Matt. One more to go, and we 741 00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:37,680 Speaker 3: have the Steelers' final practice report across the timeline. Some 742 00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:39,719 Speaker 3: not so great news in there that we will get 743 00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:41,720 Speaker 3: to when we return. On the other side, we'll also 744 00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:46,640 Speaker 3: pick Steelers Colts Sunday one o'clock at Afrosure Stadium. All 745 00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:48,279 Speaker 3: that and more before we get out of here, West 746 00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:50,719 Speaker 3: Huler Matt Williamson final segment of the week on the Way, 747 00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:52,720 Speaker 3: It's the Drive on the Steelers Audio Network. 748 00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:02,880 Speaker 1: Your tunes about drive on your twenty four to seven 749 00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:16,800 Speaker 1: home of the Black and Goal Steelers Nation Radio. 750 00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:16,040 Speaker 3: And here we go final segment of the week. That 751 00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:19,799 Speaker 3: means we've got to predict how Steelers colts will play out. 752 00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:21,799 Speaker 3: But before we get to that, we have got the 753 00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:25,240 Speaker 3: final practice report of the week for the Pittsburgh Steelers 754 00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:30,320 Speaker 3: and Matt some less than encouraging news here ruled out 755 00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:33,320 Speaker 3: at this point already Scotty Miller with that finger injury. 756 00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:35,440 Speaker 3: He didn't practice all week. That's not a surprise, does 757 00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:37,960 Speaker 3: But Corey Trice has been ruled. 758 00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:40,040 Speaker 2: Out, so he's not gonna get activated. 759 00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:44,920 Speaker 3: He is not, as has Jabro Peppers ruled out for 760 00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:47,840 Speaker 3: Sunday's matchup with a quadricep injury. 761 00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:49,640 Speaker 2: Did we know he was banged up? 762 00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:53,000 Speaker 3: He was limited yesterday. I remember we said that he was. 763 00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:55,319 Speaker 2: I'd be doing that. 764 00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:57,919 Speaker 3: I did as well too. I did as well too. 765 00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:00,720 Speaker 3: Good news is Kyle Duggar has been a full practice 766 00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:04,880 Speaker 3: participant Thursday and Friday, so he's listening to no idea 767 00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:08,040 Speaker 3: what capacity he's but he's but he's gonna play. Cole 768 00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:11,440 Speaker 3: Holcomb is questionable with that illness. Still that weal that 769 00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:14,839 Speaker 3: he was dealing with yesterday, Malik Harrison is questionable. He's 770 00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:16,320 Speaker 3: been a full participant all week. 771 00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:18,359 Speaker 2: In practice, but the action activate him or not. 772 00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:23,440 Speaker 3: Same with Will Howard. Chuck Clark listed as questionable as 773 00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:25,920 Speaker 3: well too, with an illness. So I wonder if it's 774 00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:26,480 Speaker 3: a safe thing. 775 00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:28,719 Speaker 2: So much safety, so much Yeah. 776 00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:30,600 Speaker 3: And again I know we're not, you know, crazy high 777 00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:32,239 Speaker 3: on the way he's been playing as of late. But 778 00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:35,839 Speaker 3: if you're down Peppers and he doesn't know what he's doing, 779 00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:38,399 Speaker 3: and Chuck Clark's dealing with an illness and you don't 780 00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:40,880 Speaker 3: have the Sean Elliott obviously, you're like, how many bodies 781 00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:41,680 Speaker 3: do we have here? 782 00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:44,000 Speaker 2: He might be more Ramsey at safety than I even thought. 783 00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:46,280 Speaker 3: It's starting to look at it just out of necessity. 784 00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:50,719 Speaker 3: Good news. No injury designation for Isaac Samon. 785 00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:52,600 Speaker 2: That was the one I was most interested in. 786 00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:59,040 Speaker 3: No injury designation for Zach Frasier. No injury designation for 787 00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:02,960 Speaker 3: Pat Froth, who remember popped up with a quadricep issue 788 00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:04,280 Speaker 3: on the practice reports. 789 00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:05,719 Speaker 2: And we'll see them all this stuff huge, and I 790 00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:08,480 Speaker 2: do think you'll see a lot of the massive jumbo package. 791 00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:11,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, especially if the Colts are gonna dig their heels 792 00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:14,160 Speaker 3: in and sticking nickel like they like to do. Yeah, 793 00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:18,360 Speaker 3: bring that corn beef out, baby, let's rolly Sunday, one o'clock, 794 00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:21,640 Speaker 3: Matt Akershuer Stadium. I mean, this is another one of those. 795 00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:24,200 Speaker 3: The game of the week is the Chiefs and the Bills. 796 00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:26,200 Speaker 3: But this not far behind this, This is not far 797 00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:29,360 Speaker 3: behind uh the seven to one best record in the league. 798 00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:32,880 Speaker 3: Indianapolis Colts the Steelers, who have lost two games in 799 00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:37,320 Speaker 3: a row and are looking to hand Indianapolis a rare loss. 800 00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:40,640 Speaker 3: The Colts three and a half point favorites on the 801 00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:43,160 Speaker 3: North Shore Sunday afternoon. You want to pick them first, 802 00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:49,239 Speaker 3: I'm going thirty one to twenty eight Indianapolis, Matt. I've 803 00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:51,680 Speaker 3: been saying this all year. I have Steelers have played 804 00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:54,480 Speaker 3: seven games. I've picked them to win all seven. And 805 00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:56,719 Speaker 3: I said when we were in Dublin I was gonna 806 00:37:56,719 --> 00:37:59,799 Speaker 3: pick the Vikings. The energy here switched me around at 807 00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:02,120 Speaker 3: some I'm not gonna be the ultimate Homer and pick 808 00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:04,160 Speaker 3: this team to go seventeen and zero, right, I will 809 00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:06,640 Speaker 3: pick them to lose at some point. Almost did it 810 00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:09,800 Speaker 3: last week, but I thought the Aaron Rodgers. 811 00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:12,840 Speaker 2: Man, I let emotion change me for Vikings and Packers. 812 00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:14,200 Speaker 2: One worked, one didn't. 813 00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:16,040 Speaker 3: And I started to do some of that this week. 814 00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:18,200 Speaker 3: I was like, it's the Super Bowl forty reunion, and 815 00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:21,800 Speaker 3: this team is when everyone's written them off. When everyone's 816 00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:24,440 Speaker 3: written them off is when Mike Tomlin and his teams 817 00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:27,160 Speaker 3: typically do their best work. I just I gotta go 818 00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:28,960 Speaker 3: with Indy. I gotta go with Indy thirty one to 819 00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:30,359 Speaker 3: twenty eight. As much as I hate to do it. 820 00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:33,600 Speaker 2: I'm taking the Colts. I'm betting picking against the Steelers 821 00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:35,840 Speaker 2: for the first time as well. I just think the 822 00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:38,160 Speaker 2: Colts are a really good football team and truly are 823 00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:40,759 Speaker 2: the best offense in the league. You're gonna have to 824 00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:43,680 Speaker 2: show me more on defense for me to say anything's 825 00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:45,520 Speaker 2: fixed on that side of the ball. I just think 826 00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:48,600 Speaker 2: they're very easy to attack. Now. They could definitely play. 827 00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:50,960 Speaker 2: I expect them to play better than the last two weeks. 828 00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:53,520 Speaker 2: But I got to see it first, and my score 829 00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:56,359 Speaker 2: is not very kind. Uh oh, thirty six to twenty three. 830 00:38:57,640 --> 00:38:59,000 Speaker 2: I can see a lot of points in this game. 831 00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:02,440 Speaker 2: I'm more confident about the thirty six side of it 832 00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:04,160 Speaker 2: than the twenty three, because I think that twenty three 833 00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:06,080 Speaker 2: could be pretty high. I could see him getting the 834 00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:07,800 Speaker 2: twenty eight. I could see the Steelers getting a thirty. 835 00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:11,160 Speaker 2: I just don't know. No one's stopped this offense yet. 836 00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:14,000 Speaker 2: Now the Steelers really haven't stopped anybody lately. So I'm 837 00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:15,400 Speaker 2: going with the President. 838 00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:21,319 Speaker 3: And it's harsh, as Bob Labriola put it, this is 839 00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:25,719 Speaker 3: a franchise that has struggled in Pittsburgh. Yeah, I like 840 00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:29,759 Speaker 3: that last fifty years. Hopefully some of that voodoo will pop. 841 00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:33,800 Speaker 3: It's it's it's head in rear, its ugly head for Indianapolis. 842 00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:36,000 Speaker 2: And this one, i'd like see the field goal kicker 843 00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:37,920 Speaker 2: miss a kicker too, field. 844 00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:39,359 Speaker 3: Goal kicker miss a kicker two. I'd like to see 845 00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:43,600 Speaker 3: Boswell only attempt one or two right as well? And 846 00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:47,520 Speaker 3: who knows? I had this weird feeling you said this 847 00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:49,680 Speaker 3: last week. I'm gonna reverse it this week. You said 848 00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:52,280 Speaker 3: last Friday you picked the Steelers to win, but you said, 849 00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:54,840 Speaker 3: don't be surprised if we come in here on Monday 850 00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:58,279 Speaker 3: and we're talking about a lobsided Packers win. You ready 851 00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:01,239 Speaker 3: for this. I'm picking the Colts to win, but don't 852 00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:03,640 Speaker 3: be surprised if we come in here talking about a 853 00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:05,120 Speaker 3: big time Steelers win. 854 00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:06,839 Speaker 2: It would fit. 855 00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:12,520 Speaker 3: It would a tranchise, Yeah, thirty three to twenty three, 856 00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:13,480 Speaker 3: something like that. 857 00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:16,160 Speaker 2: And it'd be like and if that happens, I bet 858 00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:20,480 Speaker 2: we're saying Watt had three sacks Steelers and got inter 859 00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:23,279 Speaker 2: section and there were plus Hayward eight. 860 00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:25,560 Speaker 3: Quinton Nelson's lunch for sixty minutes. 861 00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:27,319 Speaker 2: I know he's not in the game, but Killer Brew 862 00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:29,000 Speaker 2: blocks a punt, you know what I mean? 863 00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:33,640 Speaker 3: Right right, right right, Peyton Wilson blocks a punt or something. 864 00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:36,240 Speaker 2: On specialtydas that would not shock me either. 865 00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:38,640 Speaker 3: For whatever reason, I was thinking that I was the 866 00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:40,440 Speaker 3: kind of games they win. You know, I've told you 867 00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:42,040 Speaker 3: this the two times that I really think about the 868 00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:44,240 Speaker 3: show or win them in the shower. Okay, that paints 869 00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:47,120 Speaker 3: a picture. And when I'm driving here every day in 870 00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:48,840 Speaker 3: the car and I was like, you know what, I 871 00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:51,400 Speaker 3: think the Colts are gonna win. But a double digit, 872 00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:54,160 Speaker 3: two possession Steelers victory would not surprise me either. 873 00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:56,640 Speaker 2: Even a squeaky one out. Maybe they weren't the better 874 00:40:56,680 --> 00:40:59,879 Speaker 2: team that day, even and Boz hits one from mid 875 00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:00,719 Speaker 2: field to win it. 876 00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:03,399 Speaker 3: You know, we shall see, we shall see, but it'll 877 00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:07,560 Speaker 3: be a lot of fun regardless. Halloween weekend, Alumni weekend, 878 00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:10,080 Speaker 3: Let's get some voodoo rolling in our direction, get back 879 00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:13,200 Speaker 3: in the win column here. But regardless win, lose, or draw, 880 00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:15,960 Speaker 3: we be back to break it down for you on Monday. 881 00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:18,759 Speaker 3: As always, big thanks to Missy Matthews for joining us 882 00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:22,520 Speaker 3: today for mister TV, Tyler v our video producer, and 883 00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:25,400 Speaker 3: Nathan our new iHeart producer hanging out in here and 884 00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:27,920 Speaker 3: doing some training. Always good to have those guys with 885 00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:30,560 Speaker 3: us and helping us with our Halloween shenanigans. At the 886 00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:34,360 Speaker 3: start of the show. For Matt Williamson, I'm West Shouler. 887 00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:37,960 Speaker 3: Take care, everybody, eat some candy, enjoy the weekend, and 888 00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:39,759 Speaker 3: we'll talk to you soon. As always, you know where 889 00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:41,120 Speaker 3: to find us. It's on your twenty four to seven 890 00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:43,240 Speaker 3: home of the Black and Gold. It's Steelers Nation Radio 891 00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:44,680 Speaker 3: on the Steelers Audio Network.