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Speaker 1: Sunday Night.

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Speaker 2: It is June twenty first, the Year of Our Lord,

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty. Sometimes it's hard to put a show together,

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Speaker 2: and I'm my kid, We've had a lot to talk

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Speaker 2: about lately, but tonight really easy to put the show together.

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Speaker 2: And I'm going to tell you why it was so easy,

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Speaker 2: because you guys have submitted such great and well thought

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Speaker 2: out questions that I was looking and we were trying

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Speaker 2: to do the Late Kick Extra podcast that I recorded Wednesday,

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Speaker 2: and I said, as I was recording it and as

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Speaker 2: I was talking through it, like some of this stuff

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Speaker 2: I just need to push ahead to the show.

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Speaker 1: Didn't do it on the Thursday show.

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Speaker 2: I said, I'm gonna save this and wrap it around

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Speaker 2: for the Sunday show, because, to be honest, there were

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Speaker 2: a couple of these questions that I answer them off

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Speaker 2: the cuff on the podcast, but I thought afterwards, I

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Speaker 2: kind of want to go more in depth on those.

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Speaker 2: I may have gone one to two minutes, maybe want

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Speaker 2: to go five minutes on some. So we're going to

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Speaker 2: hit four of them in tonight's show that I think

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Speaker 2: they're very broad based, they're very expansive in the reach.

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Speaker 2: I mean, this is going to impact you pretty much

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Speaker 2: regardless of who you're a fan of, which conference you

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Speaker 2: like watching most. So I've got a lot to get

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Speaker 2: So give us a five star review, write a review there,

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Speaker 2: include a question in that review. That's probably the most

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Speaker 2: opportune way that you can get your question answered. But boy,

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Speaker 2: we've got some to get to tonight. So I wanted

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Speaker 2: to start it with this. Not everyone who watches this

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Speaker 2: show is a Miami Hurricanes fan. In fact, if you

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Speaker 2: don't love Miami and you're of any age, like if

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Speaker 2: you're thirty years or older, chances are you probably hate them.

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Speaker 2: It's either a love or a hate because Miami used

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Speaker 2: to run college football, or at the very least they

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Speaker 2: were one of the apex predators. Apex programs, shall we say,

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Speaker 2: in college football these days not so much. But I

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Speaker 2: get an email the other day from a guy who

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Speaker 2: we will refer to as Elijah, pretty notable guy.

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Speaker 1: He had to go by an alias.

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Speaker 2: So the alias is Elijah, and he's taken me back,

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Speaker 2: and he's walking through what Miami used to be. And

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Speaker 2: his entire premise is as much as he loved the swagger,

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Speaker 2: as much as he loved those thirty for thirty documentaries,

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Speaker 2: let's say on ESPN, and as much as he loved

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Speaker 2: all the tradition that was Miami football in the eighties, nineties,

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Speaker 2: and even some portions of the early two thousands, he said,

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Speaker 2: and I'm paraphrasing because it was pretty lengthy, but it

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Speaker 2: was well thought out. He said, I think a lot

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Speaker 2: of our tradition in our history poisons the well for

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Speaker 2: the potential of the here and now and the future

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Speaker 2: of Miami. He laid part of the blame at the

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Speaker 2: feet of some fans, not all fans. He laid the

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Speaker 2: blame at the feet of some former players, not all

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Speaker 2: former players. Now I know this to be true. Everything

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Speaker 2: he said in that email I have vocalized to some

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Speaker 2: you know, there's a way you have to win at Miami,

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Speaker 2: and there's a way that we do things, and when

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Speaker 2: we're good, there's a way that Miami looks that it's

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Speaker 2: totally unique under the rest of the sport. And then

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Speaker 2: way that you win in college football, and there's a

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Speaker 2: at its very core that you go about winning and

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Speaker 1: We haven't been that.

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Speaker 2: We're all worried about the sizzle, and we haven't been

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Speaker 2: me first, as we often do on this show. It's

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Speaker 2: been effective. It's greatly cut down on the ill timed

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Speaker 2: that you don't capitalize on your history. All that is

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Speaker 2: part of the fabric of a program. They've got a

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Speaker 2: fabric at Nebraska that's totally different than the fabric at

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Speaker 2: That's totally different, obviously, than the fabric at Miami. That's uniqueness.

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Speaker 2: Everything's not supposed to look robotic. These aren't lego houses.

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Speaker 2: These are programs, and it's real history, real tradition, real

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Speaker 2: championships you've won. You don't divorce yourself from that. So

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Speaker 2: that's not what I'm saying, regardless of whether it sounds

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Speaker 2: like it. When I'm about to tell you and take

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Speaker 2: in the email speaking of Steak, since I kind of

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Speaker 1: Here is Miami football right now.

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Speaker 2: To me, the group that just wants to bring it

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Speaker 2: the flash. Here's what it's like to me. Imagine being

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Speaker 2: And he says, I got great news for you, man.

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Speaker 2: I've got this seasoning that I have imported. I can't

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Speaker 2: and then you say, oh, that's wonderful, Like what kind

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Speaker 2: I didn't even tell you about the marinade yet. The

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Speaker 1: What kind of steak we have? Him? And then he says, have.

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Speaker 2: I shown you this steak dust that I have over here?

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Speaker 1: Put all this on?

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Speaker 2: And then the chef says, well, I don't really have

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Speaker 2: When you guys are talking about all this stuff from

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Speaker 2: they're talking about what Miami needs to be back. I

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Speaker 2: remember what I didn't say. What I am saying is

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Speaker 2: college football Playoff? If Auburn were in the running this year,

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Speaker 2: it's is that Auburn offensive line gonna hold up? Is

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Speaker 2: SEC Championship. We'd say the same thing about USC but

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Speaker 2: with Miami. You mark my words as soon as they

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Speaker 2: next morning. Is the swagger back at Miami? Is the

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Speaker 2: winning culture?

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Speaker 1: Back? Is the formula or the ingredients to win? Back?

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Speaker 2: Is the steak back? Forget about all the seasoning, forget

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Speaker 2: You need a stacked front seven, You need a load

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Speaker 2: You got to get a really really good wall to

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Speaker 2: skill talent. You don't have to go get them, just

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Speaker 2: keep them home. These are the things you have to do,

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Speaker 2: along with having an elite head coach and an elite

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Speaker 1: No one ever asks that.

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Speaker 2: My Miami Hurricane fans ask it amongst themselves, but even

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Speaker 2: to a lot of Miami fans. I got some Miami

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Speaker 2: friends that I grew up with half the time, even

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Speaker 2: from them, it's we just got to get that swagger back. No, no,

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Speaker 2: you can have a lot of swaggering go four and eight.

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Speaker 2: And by the way, I don't know if you've notice this,

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Speaker 2: that wouldn't exactly make you unique these days. There was

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Speaker 2: a way Miami used to carry themselves that was unique

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Speaker 2: a million reasons. I mean, do you watch Clemson and

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Speaker 1: Did you watch those athletes? Did you see the way

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Speaker 2: Hey, I'm pointing out programs, by the way, who come

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Speaker 2: those are the players you'd be playing with. How about

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Speaker 2: worried about getting the players?

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Speaker 1: That's it.

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Speaker 2: Players, It's not the seasoning, it's not the marinade. You

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Speaker 2: got to have the steak, and until Miami has the steak,

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Speaker 2: I don't really care about all that other stuff. So

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Speaker 2: if that's what they're focused on, I agree wholeheartedly with

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Speaker 2: Elijah in his email. We're worried about the wrong things

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Speaker 2: with Miami, and the longer they're worried about it, the

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Speaker 2: longer it's going to take to come quote unquote back back.

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Speaker 2: It's what I'd love. I want the same thing you

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Speaker 2: guys do. Believe me, it's not fun watching one program

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Speaker 2: watching one program. One circles around everyone, and that is

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Speaker 2: the acc Right now, let's move it on. I told

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Speaker 2: you some good questions, some really good stuff. Now this

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Speaker 2: is when we get a lot. I've had a million

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Speaker 2: different people ask me a million variations of this question.

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Speaker 2: Forget about the big boys, forget about Ohio State for

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Speaker 2: a second. Forget about who's favored in any given conference.

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Speaker 2: Give me some dark horse college football playoff contenders. There's

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Speaker 2: this thinking right now, Well, there's thinking in any season

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Speaker 2: that something crazy always happens. I never laugh at predictions

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Speaker 2: for this reason. I may think somewhere outlandish, but I

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Speaker 2: don't ever laugh at predictions. Here's why there's no football

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Speaker 2: season you could find me in recent history where you

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Speaker 2: look in December and all the outcomes that you got

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Speaker 2: were pretty much spot on matches to what everyone was

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Speaker 2: predicting in July. Always something crazy happens. That's just the

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Speaker 2: Just some dark horse playoff contenders to think about. There

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Speaker 2: Ohio State, Urban Meyer. No, no, no, it's not Urban

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Speaker 1: That's right. He's gone. One of the biggest legends in

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Speaker 2: What do you think Ryan Day's attitude was when the

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Speaker 1: Who takes over for Nick Saban? I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I've always been partial to the idea that Mario Christobaul

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Speaker 2: of my thinking. But whoever it is, just forget about

435
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Speaker 2: forget about your prediction. Whoever it is. The Ryan Day

436
00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:19,920
Speaker 2: attitude is by default the attitude that the guy who

437
00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:22,479
Speaker 2: takes the job at Alabama will have to have. There

438
00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:24,280
Speaker 2: are two fears that a lot of people have. I've

439
00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:27,119
Speaker 2: talked to people who have been involved in coaching searches before,

440
00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:31,080
Speaker 2: and there is a fear of inadequacy and there's fear

441
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Speaker 2: of failure.

442
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Speaker 1: I mean, that's very common. I'm not saying that these

443
00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:41,000
Speaker 1: elite type a ultra alpha personality head coaches.

444
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Speaker 2: I'm not saying they don't have those I'm not saying

445
00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:44,760
Speaker 2: they don't have fears, just like you and I. Maybe

446
00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:47,399
Speaker 2: the difference is they don't worry about it. They just

447
00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:50,600
Speaker 2: jump anyway. So like Ryan Day, I don't think he

448
00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:53,560
Speaker 2: gave a moment's hesitation to take in that job. That's

449
00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:56,520
Speaker 2: a chance of a lifetime, opportunity of a lifetime. Now,

450
00:20:56,520 --> 00:21:00,120
Speaker 2: if urban Meyer was exiting and there were major sanctions

451
00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:01,920
Speaker 2: that we're going to be imposed on the program, that's

452
00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:04,720
Speaker 2: one thing. But Ohio State was a jet. I mean

453
00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:06,480
Speaker 2: it was ready to take off. It just landed really

454
00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:09,120
Speaker 2: quickly to drop off some supplies. They're ready to take

455
00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:11,240
Speaker 2: right back off and cruise at forty five thousand feet again.

456
00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:14,800
Speaker 2: That'll be Alabama if and when Nick Saban finally retires.

457
00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:18,639
Speaker 2: So the right guy, by default will not think like

458
00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:21,520
Speaker 2: a normal person does. The right guy by default will

459
00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:24,800
Speaker 2: not let fear of inadequacy or failure or not living

460
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Speaker 2: up to expectation stand in his way.

461
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Speaker 1: I'll tell you why. Really, at their core, the right

462
00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:32,040
Speaker 1: guy for the job will.

463
00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:34,359
Speaker 2: Think he's every bit as good as Sabin was, and

464
00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:36,960
Speaker 2: will maybe even think I could do it better than

465
00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:39,760
Speaker 2: Sabin did. Whether you agree with that or not, whether

466
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Speaker 2: you agree that Ryan Days better than urban Meyer or

467
00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:45,600
Speaker 2: can do the things urban Meyer did long term, I

468
00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:48,800
Speaker 2: can tell you he doesn't lack for confidence. And guys

469
00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:52,960
Speaker 2: that hold these positions, these precious few positions, they don't

470
00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:56,359
Speaker 2: lack for confidence. And the guy they find to replace

471
00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:58,840
Speaker 2: Nick Saban at Alabama won't lack for confidence.

472
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Speaker 1: But here's the beauty of it. It's the same as

473
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Speaker 1: it is in recruiting.

474
00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:04,359
Speaker 2: When you go into a kid's living room and you

475
00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:07,840
Speaker 2: got a stacked roster, and you're recruiting a kid, and

476
00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:10,359
Speaker 2: they look at that roster and then they look at

477
00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:13,000
Speaker 2: another roster of another program that's recruiting him, and they

478
00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:16,560
Speaker 2: choose the other program because I just I'll have a

479
00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:19,520
Speaker 2: much easier path to playing time there than I will

480
00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:22,280
Speaker 2: at your school. I mean, you already got three five

481
00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:23,840
Speaker 2: star players at my position.

482
00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:24,359
Speaker 1: That's great.

483
00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:28,320
Speaker 2: The other program's probably where you need to go because

484
00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:30,280
Speaker 2: to make it at a program that already has a

485
00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:32,800
Speaker 2: stacked roster, you can't be scared at a competition. You

486
00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:36,200
Speaker 2: have to embrace competition. Well, when you're replacing a legendary

487
00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:39,520
Speaker 2: head coach, if you have in the interview process any

488
00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:42,960
Speaker 2: trepidation from the person who is sitting in the interview chair,

489
00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:46,080
Speaker 2: you got to take him out to eat and then

490
00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:48,399
Speaker 2: send him on their way. That's not the guy for

491
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Speaker 2: the job. The guy for the job is one who

492
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Speaker 2: shows the proper respect and shows the proper reverence for

493
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Speaker 2: the incredible, legendary job that the previous coach has done.

494
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Speaker 1: But they say, I'll take this thing and I'll keep.

495
00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:03,760
Speaker 2: It right where we are if not take the next step.

496
00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:07,479
Speaker 2: So I think that there's this perception when Saban's done. Oh,

497
00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:09,680
Speaker 2: Alabama's done. They're gonna fall right back to the pack.

498
00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:10,720
Speaker 1: Hey, maybe they will.

499
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Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not a fortune teller by any stretch,

500
00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:14,800
Speaker 2: but I'm just telling you there's gonna be some candidates

501
00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:18,600
Speaker 2: out there that are grade A. And remember when you

502
00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:21,720
Speaker 2: were hiring Saban, Alabama was a mess. You don't have

503
00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:24,159
Speaker 2: to go through that. Now you don't have to woo people.

504
00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:27,160
Speaker 2: You don't have to if you're Malmore, the late Malmore.

505
00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:28,560
Speaker 1: If if you're.

506
00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:31,240
Speaker 2: Running things at Alabama now Greg Byrne, I think is

507
00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:33,400
Speaker 2: the athletic director there. You're not gonna have to waste

508
00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:37,000
Speaker 2: two seconds of your day selling someone on the concept that, hey,

509
00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:38,359
Speaker 2: you could win at Alabama.

510
00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:42,720
Speaker 1: Everyone knows you can win there. Now it's a.

511
00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:44,439
Speaker 2: Night and day doesn't even come close to describing the

512
00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:48,480
Speaker 2: difference in Alabama twenty twenty four. Let's say versus Alabama

513
00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:52,160
Speaker 2: two thousand and six, two thousand and seven, so they'll

514
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Speaker 2: be candidates.

515
00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:56,840
Speaker 1: Let's go out. West's wrap it up with a question

516
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Speaker 1: about USC. I've kind of backed off talking about you

517
00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:03,280
Speaker 1: so far. Talk some about Oregon.

518
00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:07,400
Speaker 2: Think I got a pretty good grasp on the Oregon program.

519
00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:10,240
Speaker 2: Our USC fans can tell me if you think otherwise.

520
00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:12,760
Speaker 2: I don't know that anyone has a really firm grasp

521
00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:16,320
Speaker 2: on the USC program. We've been doing a series, kind

522
00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:18,600
Speaker 2: of an informal series, but a series here nonetheless on

523
00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:22,040
Speaker 2: Late Kick Live, where we're just kind of taking a

524
00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:24,560
Speaker 2: pen and just drawn some circles on the college football map,

525
00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:27,480
Speaker 2: and we're circling who we think are the most important

526
00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:30,120
Speaker 2: figures in the sport in twenty twenty, not the most

527
00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:33,200
Speaker 2: powerful and not just the best at any given position.

528
00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:36,680
Speaker 2: But you know, we've talked about, for example, Sam Howe,

529
00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:39,680
Speaker 2: quarterback at North Carolina, and if he's great this year,

530
00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:41,919
Speaker 2: like the ripple effect that could have in college football.

531
00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:44,960
Speaker 2: Josh gaddis the offensive coordinator at Michigan. We got several

532
00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:47,760
Speaker 2: more coming up. Well, here's another one to think about.

533
00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:50,600
Speaker 2: Clay Helton. I think this is for very obvious reasons.

534
00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:53,320
Speaker 2: A lot of people are stunned that he's still the

535
00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:57,200
Speaker 2: head coach at Southern Cal. I count myself in that category.

536
00:24:57,200 --> 00:24:58,919
Speaker 2: If you were to have told me at the beginning

537
00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:01,680
Speaker 2: of November last year he's going to be the head coach,

538
00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:03,560
Speaker 2: he is still going to be the head coach at

539
00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:07,960
Speaker 2: Southern Cal. Come twenty twenty, I would have been very surprised.

540
00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:09,920
Speaker 2: Now I know the reasons. I know Mike Boone came

541
00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:11,840
Speaker 2: in late. I think he was hired in like November,

542
00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:15,080
Speaker 2: and so you know, there was precedent for saying, well,

543
00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:16,919
Speaker 2: I'm a new athletic director. I don't want to make

544
00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:18,840
Speaker 2: a move. The president, as far as I could tell,

545
00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:20,359
Speaker 2: didn't really want to make a move. I know what

546
00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:23,639
Speaker 2: the story is there. I'm still stunned because it didn't

547
00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:27,240
Speaker 2: really immediately spike up and get better after he was retained.

548
00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:28,920
Speaker 1: They lost the Bowl game.

549
00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:33,719
Speaker 2: They had one of the most disastrous recruiting classes that

550
00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:36,680
Speaker 2: I can ever remember a major Power five program having.

551
00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:40,199
Speaker 2: I could I work at twenty four to seven, and

552
00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:42,000
Speaker 2: I had to keep checking our website to make sure

553
00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:45,080
Speaker 2: that wasn't a typo. But just as impressive now there's

554
00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:48,040
Speaker 2: the negative. Just as impressive. On the positive side is

555
00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:51,200
Speaker 2: the turnaround they've made so far. No ink on paper yet,

556
00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:54,880
Speaker 2: but so far right now, their twenty twenty one class

557
00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:57,720
Speaker 2: is ranked I believe at last check we had them

558
00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:00,360
Speaker 2: number five in the twenty four to seven sport team

559
00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:01,280
Speaker 2: recruiting rankings.

560
00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:02,639
Speaker 1: Got two big time.

561
00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:08,040
Speaker 2: Quarterbacks already signed, not signed not signed verbally committed. They

562
00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:10,160
Speaker 2: got Jay Garcia, they got Miller Moss, both of those

563
00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:12,359
Speaker 2: guys in the house there, which takes a little bit

564
00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:14,960
Speaker 2: of the steing off of missing on Bryce Young last

565
00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:17,880
Speaker 2: season he goes to Alabama. But you know this year's team,

566
00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:20,800
Speaker 2: You tell me we got a sizable portion of Southern

567
00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:23,440
Speaker 2: cal fans who watched this show. We all know about

568
00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:26,399
Speaker 2: Slova's a quarterback, pretty loaded wide receiver corps.

569
00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:28,320
Speaker 1: Got a lot returning on defense.

570
00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:31,439
Speaker 2: Returning doesn't always mean increased production, but got enough good

571
00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:34,280
Speaker 2: pieces of returning on defense. Offensive lines of question mark.

572
00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:37,399
Speaker 2: Head coach is a question mark here. So here's what

573
00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:39,680
Speaker 2: I want to know from you guys, because I think

574
00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:42,320
Speaker 2: Clay Helton is by far one of the most important

575
00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:46,640
Speaker 2: figures in college football in twenty twenty. I remember Texas

576
00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:49,880
Speaker 2: A and M Kevin Sumlin in the latter two to

577
00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:53,320
Speaker 2: three years of his time there, when his welcome started

578
00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:57,119
Speaker 2: to wear off. I was doing talk radio and then

579
00:26:57,160 --> 00:26:59,639
Speaker 2: I was doing this show independently in Georgia, and I

580
00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:03,120
Speaker 2: remember remember we had Texas and M fans who would

581
00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:05,800
Speaker 2: listen to the show, and so you know they were

582
00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:08,439
Speaker 2: obviously pulling for Kevin Somelin. But they got to a

583
00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:11,720
Speaker 2: point where they were apathetic towards Kevin Somelin, which is

584
00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:15,000
Speaker 2: the biggest and most dangerous disease that could sneak into

585
00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:18,200
Speaker 2: any fan base, any program. If they can have love

586
00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:21,639
Speaker 2: or hate, that's okay. They're still emotionally engaged. If they're apathetic,

587
00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:23,879
Speaker 2: then you're warming up in front of a half.

588
00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:26,640
Speaker 1: Empty house, and that's not good. That's not good at all.

589
00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:30,040
Speaker 2: So that's what happened with A and M, with a

590
00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:32,600
Speaker 2: lot of fans towards Kevin someonin and here's what they did.

591
00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:35,840
Speaker 2: They shifted from okay, we were an eight and four

592
00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:39,040
Speaker 2: caliber program, but there are reasons to think that we

593
00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:42,120
Speaker 2: could elevate to ten plus wins. They went from that

594
00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:46,480
Speaker 2: to saying, if we cannot win at least ten games

595
00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:49,000
Speaker 2: this year, with the roster we have, in the schedule

596
00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:52,720
Speaker 2: we have, and the emotional investment that we have, if

597
00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:55,120
Speaker 2: we don't win at least ten games, we would rather

598
00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:57,560
Speaker 2: go five and seven, torch the barn and kill the

599
00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:00,000
Speaker 2: rats and start over as opposed to going eight and four.

600
00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:03,800
Speaker 2: So I ask are USC fans because I don't know.

601
00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:06,600
Speaker 2: I'm not out there, I'm in Nashville, Tennessee. How many

602
00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:08,399
Speaker 2: of you guys are at that point? I know at

603
00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:10,080
Speaker 2: least one of you is because I read it in

604
00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:14,919
Speaker 2: the email. The email stated, because I corresponded with the

605
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:19,360
Speaker 2: email er and I said, well, you want to win

606
00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:22,000
Speaker 2: the PAC twelve this year, obviously, and I think the

607
00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:24,800
Speaker 2: prediction was a best case scenario, like eleven and one.

608
00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:25,920
Speaker 1: We're going to win the PAC twelve.

609
00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:28,480
Speaker 2: I said, if I were to give you two options,

610
00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:31,840
Speaker 2: eight and four or five and seven, what would you

611
00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:34,040
Speaker 2: take this year? They took five and seven, and their

612
00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:36,959
Speaker 2: reasons pretty clear. If we can't go at least ten

613
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:39,280
Speaker 2: to two eleven and one, then I would rather have

614
00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:42,920
Speaker 2: such a disastrous result that it leaves no doubt, It

615
00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:46,760
Speaker 2: leaves no wiggle room. No one can justify fiably look

616
00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:49,120
Speaker 2: at a five and seven result at USC and say

617
00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:51,320
Speaker 2: we're going to keep things in place one more year?

618
00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:55,280
Speaker 2: Or can they? Because now we have something pop up

619
00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:57,680
Speaker 2: that we did not expect. No one could have seen

620
00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:00,360
Speaker 2: this coming. I know the sentiment was, all right, well,

621
00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:04,080
Speaker 2: we got Mike Boone in here, and he is fresh,

622
00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:07,160
Speaker 2: he's new to the block. But eventually, you know, give

623
00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:09,200
Speaker 2: it one more year, Helton will be gone.

624
00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:11,640
Speaker 1: That's what most people thought. That's what most people still think.

625
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:16,720
Speaker 2: Then this thing called COVID nineteen pops up and there's

626
00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:18,800
Speaker 2: a threat of a loss of football revenue.

627
00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:20,120
Speaker 1: Some programs are immune to this.

628
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:24,080
Speaker 2: Some programs have deep enough pockets on enough donors who

629
00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:26,320
Speaker 2: are willing to hold their nose and write a big

630
00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:29,280
Speaker 2: buyout check that it doesn't matter. Don't know what the

631
00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:31,680
Speaker 2: situation is at Southern cal but I know that it

632
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:35,360
Speaker 2: is the general consensus in the industry that the whole

633
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:37,480
Speaker 2: hot seat narrative. I talked about this on the show

634
00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:39,280
Speaker 2: a couple of nights ago, the whole hot seat narrative

635
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:42,160
Speaker 2: for the twenty twenty season. I don't think there's going

636
00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:45,000
Speaker 2: to be much of one, because it's really really hard

637
00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:48,960
Speaker 2: to explain to a fan base that didn't even get

638
00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:51,480
Speaker 2: to a ten games, And it's really hard to explain

639
00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:54,600
Speaker 2: when you're looking at your football revenues that are slashed

640
00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:57,600
Speaker 2: that we're still going to pay ten million, twenty million,

641
00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:01,240
Speaker 2: thirty million to buy out a staff and to hire

642
00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:03,400
Speaker 2: a new staff. That's going to be a tough sell

643
00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:06,880
Speaker 2: unless you got folks willing to pony up the door,

644
00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:09,480
Speaker 2: hopefully for USC and hopefully if Clay Helton, we don't

645
00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:11,720
Speaker 2: have to worry about that. Hey, you could still argue

646
00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:14,040
Speaker 2: they got the best roster out there. You could still

647
00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:16,560
Speaker 2: argue that, think about that, it's all the chaos. You

648
00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:19,000
Speaker 2: could still argue that. So really good questions there. I

649
00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:20,840
Speaker 2: do one of these shows every now and then I

650
00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:23,040
Speaker 2: just say, hey, whatever, I think we can push it

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Speaker 2: down the road a little bit. So this was good

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Speaker 2: stuff here tonight. Remember subscribe if you haven't already to

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Speaker 2: We really appreciate it. Also, we will be back here

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Speaker 2: Thursday night. Remember it's Sunday night, Thursday night or Thursday

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Speaker 2: night Sunday night, depending on when you're listening. It is

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Speaker 2: eight eastern, seventh Central, and it is your show. I

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Speaker 2: then we give you the show that you want. And

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Speaker 2: I say that on purpose to wrap it up here,

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Speaker 2: because sometimes I'll look in the comment section and I'll

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Speaker 2: see one of you inevitably.

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Speaker 1: Say all this do talks sec? Two?

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Speaker 2: Why is he talking so much Ohio State? Why when

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Speaker 2: he talks Big twelve? Why is it only Oh You

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Speaker 2: or Texas. That's what you ask about, that's what you

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Speaker 2: talk about. If you wanted to talk Nebraska, give me

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Speaker 2: a question about Nebraska. It'll either be on this show

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Speaker 2: or it'll be in the Late Kick Extra podcast. We

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Speaker 2: take all comers. We don't care. I'll talk North Kota

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Speaker 2: State if you want me to talk in North Kota State.

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Speaker 2: So it is your show. If you don't like it,

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Speaker 2: don't complain about it.

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Speaker 1: Change it. It's your show. You literally write this show.

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Speaker 1: I just deliver it to you.

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Speaker 2: So we really appreciate you watching. Have a great start

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Speaker 2: to the week. We'll see you right back here, same

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Speaker 2: time Thursday night. Until then, I'm Josh Pape for director,

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Speaker 2: Colin for Aaron for Tony.

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Speaker 1: We'll see you later. God Buss