WEBVTT - Former O’s manager (current Rays Senior Advisor) Brandon Hyde joins

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<v Speaker 1>Here he is Brandon. Oh, he's on his phone. Sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>he's you know what he's doing right now, Kratzy Brandon.

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<v Speaker 2>Hide screen ager.

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<v Speaker 1>Besides being a screenager, he's trying to figure out his

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<v Speaker 1>title because they had an argument in our pre production

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<v Speaker 1>show today.

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<v Speaker 3>What is your exact title with the Rays?

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<v Speaker 1>Your player personnel development, mental coach of Bunting?

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<v Speaker 3>What is your can you please?

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<v Speaker 4>Well? Yeah, I'm still trying to figure it out myself. No.

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<v Speaker 4>The bistal title is Senior Advisor Baseball Operations, which is

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<v Speaker 4>just a title. It's pretty much just being a resource

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<v Speaker 4>for the major league club and the minor league managers,

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<v Speaker 4>being around the big league club quite a bit, trying

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<v Speaker 4>to help out as much as I can with cash

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<v Speaker 4>in the front office there, and then just being a

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<v Speaker 4>resource for the minor league managers in the minor league staff.

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<v Speaker 4>So I really enjoyed doing a little bit of everything.

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<v Speaker 4>They've included me and everything, and I've enjoyed, really enjoyed

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<v Speaker 4>being this organization.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Because I just want to know, have you

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<v Speaker 1>ever seen office? I think it's office space? What exactly

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<v Speaker 1>do you do around here?

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<v Speaker 3>Right?

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<v Speaker 4>Like? That's kind of one of my favorite movies.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so what is what is it exactly you do

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<v Speaker 3>around here? Is that what they come in? Is that?

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<v Speaker 4>What? Uh? Yeah, No, you know, I'm at the club

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<v Speaker 4>quite a bit. And at the club that definitely when

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<v Speaker 4>they're home with the coaches in the coaches room, I

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<v Speaker 4>watched their game from from the suite with the with

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<v Speaker 4>the front office people or sometimes with with with our analysts,

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<v Speaker 4>which is a lot of fun. But then also when

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<v Speaker 4>they go on the road if I don't travel, I'm

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<v Speaker 4>I see affiliates and I'm kind of evaluate our organization,

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<v Speaker 4>coaches and players, the trade deadlines coming up hopefully you know,

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<v Speaker 4>would be involved in that a little bit. So they've

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<v Speaker 4>included me and everything. So I I don't have anything specific,

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<v Speaker 4>but I'm just really happy to be here being with

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<v Speaker 4>the Raised organization.

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<v Speaker 2>I know one thing that they do is they do

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<v Speaker 2>value input from everybody. You were across the dugout from

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<v Speaker 2>the Rays for a long time. Do you feel like

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<v Speaker 2>their ability to value input would have been something that

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<v Speaker 2>you could have used when you were the manager of

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<v Speaker 2>the Orioles or in any other organization that you were in.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean every organization is different. I mean Eric

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<v Speaker 4>and Anderson just an incredible person. He is surrounded by

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<v Speaker 4>unbelievable people also, So that's the first thing you notice.

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<v Speaker 4>The first thing you notice here is the people that

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<v Speaker 4>they've brought in, the people in the organization, how they communicate,

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<v Speaker 4>how they go about making decisions. You know, Eric's so

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<v Speaker 4>transparent and he asked a ton of questions and everybody

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<v Speaker 4>else is very very curious on how we get better

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<v Speaker 4>and everybody gets along so well, that's the first thing

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<v Speaker 4>you notice is that everybody enjoys being working together and

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<v Speaker 4>is really with the people, and it starts with Eric

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<v Speaker 4>and that's that's a huge you know, that's a that's

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<v Speaker 4>a huge thing for me is uh is the culture

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<v Speaker 4>that they build and then cashed them with his with

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<v Speaker 4>his coaching staff. You know, it's guys that have been

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<v Speaker 4>together for a while, and it's guys that get along

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<v Speaker 4>really well. And uh, you know, it's a it's a

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<v Speaker 4>great blend between the major league coaching staff, the front

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<v Speaker 4>office and then the player development Staff's fantastic.

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<v Speaker 3>Brandon, do you have a company phone or do you

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<v Speaker 3>have a personal cell phone?

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<v Speaker 4>They use, Uh, it's a personal cell phone.

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<v Speaker 1>Because I didn't know maybe if the rays have ever

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<v Speaker 1>come to you and said you know you used to

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<v Speaker 1>work for the Orioles. Are you giving them information under

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<v Speaker 1>the table and they're paying you want to you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying, Like because you're kind of were in

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<v Speaker 1>the same division. He tried to beat them there for

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<v Speaker 1>a while, and now you're trying to learn from Everyone

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<v Speaker 1>wants to be like the race. So I didn't know

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<v Speaker 1>if if the Orioles maybe had sent you in as

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<v Speaker 1>a mole and then you're sending secret information back to.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh no, no, I'm I'm I'm pro raised right now.

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<v Speaker 3>You're doing it. You're doing it the rainway. Now.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm more light blue right now, you can meet I'm

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<v Speaker 4>not worn blacking home right now. I'm more light blue

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<v Speaker 4>ever since May eighteenth of last year, seventeenth, whatever day

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<v Speaker 4>that was. I'm I'm I'm pro ray right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Plus, here's the biggest thing that people don't know. You

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<v Speaker 1>live in the Saint Pete Clearwater area, so you're home, dude.

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<v Speaker 1>This is like, this is like you don't have to

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<v Speaker 1>go on the road. You can just go to the

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<v Speaker 1>home games. You can post up in the sweet life

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<v Speaker 1>like we showed.

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<v Speaker 3>And then you get to go home and watch your kids.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like the perfect thing.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I got to watch my kids play a little

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<v Speaker 4>bit this year. Like you said, I'm not that far

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<v Speaker 4>from the trop springing. The spring training site's just kind

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<v Speaker 4>of the other direction, not that far away. So it's

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<v Speaker 4>worked out great. Yeah, Cashi, you know, called me at

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<v Speaker 4>the end of the year last year and we talked

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<v Speaker 4>and some other people on their front office. John Daniels

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<v Speaker 4>is over here. He's an incredible, credible person and learning

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<v Speaker 4>a lot from him. So I'm just so happy to

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<v Speaker 4>be here. I think that I'm learning every single day.

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<v Speaker 4>I hope that I can contribute and you know, it's

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<v Speaker 4>been a really fun experience so far.

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<v Speaker 2>All Right, the field or the front office, you only

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<v Speaker 2>have you have less than a year under your belt here,

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<v Speaker 2>field or front office.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I was a farm director one year, long time

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<v Speaker 4>ago for Theois Group in two thousand. That was a

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<v Speaker 4>rebuild too, two thousand and thirteen to over thirteen. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, the dugouts. It's hard to beat the adrenaline

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<v Speaker 4>and the dugout. And I've been fortunate to be you know,

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<v Speaker 4>I've managed for a while, I've been on major league

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<v Speaker 4>coaching staffs now for for quite a while. The adrenaline

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<v Speaker 4>of the big leagues, the adrenaline of trying to win

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<v Speaker 4>every single night, the chaos of it, that's hard to replicate.

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<v Speaker 4>So you know, I'm whatever the job is in front

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<v Speaker 4>of me, I'm gonna do the best I can. But

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<v Speaker 4>but ultimately I've always been on the field, guy hider.

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<v Speaker 1>Everyone Matina told us that the ninth inning is like

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<v Speaker 1>an addiction. So you've lived that life, You've you've lived

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<v Speaker 1>ups and downs of the night thing. That's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>what you're hitting at, right, the the addiction of man,

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<v Speaker 1>how am I going to figure out how to get

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<v Speaker 1>a pitching staff through when we're a guy or too short, right?

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<v Speaker 1>Or how am I going to get this guy through

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<v Speaker 1>five innings? So we save our bullpend for not today

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<v Speaker 1>but tomorrow. Right, So that that's kind of what the

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<v Speaker 1>what you're trying you're saying.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, just you know, you play in front of pack,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, packed houses with with a lot on the

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<v Speaker 4>line on a nightly basis. It's pretty addicting. And you

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<v Speaker 4>know there's uh, even when I was you know, most

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<v Speaker 4>of the Cubs as the first base coach and bench

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<v Speaker 4>coach there, you know, not a better place to beat

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of times than Wrigley Field on a Friday

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<v Speaker 4>afternoon against the Cardinals or whoever it is. And then

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<v Speaker 4>you get into the postseason and you're you can't even

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<v Speaker 4>feel your feet because it's just your You're nervous, and

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<v Speaker 4>you're anxious, and you're and you're excited. The same thing

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<v Speaker 4>as a managers, just with a lot less, a lot

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<v Speaker 4>more pressure, a lot more things going on around you.

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<v Speaker 4>To make decisions in real time, with decisions that matter.

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<v Speaker 4>That's you know, I really enjoyed that a lot. And

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<v Speaker 4>I enjoyed the collaboration part with the front office, with

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<v Speaker 4>the coaching staff on try on how we're gonna how

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<v Speaker 4>we're gonna beat the Yankees tonight with a seventy million

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<v Speaker 4>dollars payroll. That was that that drove me. And so

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<v Speaker 4>we did a pretty good job of that after the

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<v Speaker 4>first few years. But for a few years we did

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<v Speaker 4>a good job of that twenty two to twenty four.

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<v Speaker 4>But you know, those type of those type of moments

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<v Speaker 4>you've never forget. You You always remember the tough ones, honestly,

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<v Speaker 4>But yeah, that feeling is that feelings addictive.

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<v Speaker 2>When my puppy Bella has something wrong, I'm not going

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<v Speaker 2>to go around googling what to do.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, by the way, we don't talk about the cubs

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<v Speaker 1>on this show. Okay, they're not even a team except

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<v Speaker 1>for when they're doing crappy, which you are now, so

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<v Speaker 1>we'll talk about the Cubs.

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<v Speaker 3>Here's my thing. You're a former manager. Now you're in

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<v Speaker 3>front off as you were a coach before.

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<v Speaker 1>If and when, which I think you should get another

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<v Speaker 1>big league manager's job. What have you learned in this

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<v Speaker 1>year off that you would take to your next job,

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<v Speaker 1>especially from the Rays, who everyone says has the best

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<v Speaker 1>organization in baseball.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you know, I've had a year to reflect on

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<v Speaker 4>kind of the six plus years of being in Baltimore

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<v Speaker 4>really special time in my life. Got to experience a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of things. And when you're when you're especially a

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<v Speaker 4>first year manager or first time manager, you're going to

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<v Speaker 4>go through experiences that that you nothing's preparing you for that.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, I was the bench coach for four different managers,

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<v Speaker 4>but until you're in the seat, nothing is actually preparing

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<v Speaker 4>you for real time decisions, especially in the Al East,

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<v Speaker 4>or dealing with media or the front office communication. All

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<v Speaker 4>those type of things are things that you you're going

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<v Speaker 4>through for the first time. And so you know, for

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<v Speaker 4>those six plus years, I'm proud of, proud of what

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<v Speaker 4>we built there. I'm proud of how we handled everything.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, there was a lot of good times. There

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<v Speaker 4>was a few really really tough years. The last year

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<v Speaker 4>I was there was a really really tough year also,

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<v Speaker 4>so you're dealing with I was dealing with a rebuild too,

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<v Speaker 4>then kind of coming out of nowhere and exceeding expectations

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<v Speaker 4>for a few years to all of a sudden there

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<v Speaker 4>is expectations and how you handle that, all those types

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<v Speaker 4>of things you're going through for the first time, and

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<v Speaker 4>I want to believe that through the if there was

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<v Speaker 4>a second or third time, you know, I would have

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<v Speaker 4>I would be able to lean back on on the

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<v Speaker 4>experiences that I had. Being with this organization, I'm seeing

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<v Speaker 4>how they run things a little bit differently, being around

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<v Speaker 4>different people I've kind of thrown myself into. I watched

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of gigs, like I said, with with an

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<v Speaker 4>analyst and to kind of get his his thoughts on

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<v Speaker 4>on on the decision making. I talked to Cashi quite

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<v Speaker 4>a bit. I talked to I'm in the coach's room

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<v Speaker 4>every single day and get you know, just discussing discussing

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<v Speaker 4>game game situations, how to deal with players, how to

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<v Speaker 4>how to make players better, and so I think that

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<v Speaker 4>all my experiences are gonna are gonna benefit me if

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<v Speaker 4>there is the next time around.

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<v Speaker 2>All Right, you said you've you said it twice now

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<v Speaker 2>that you watch the games with the analysts and you

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<v Speaker 2>kind of smile both times. How many times have you disagreed?

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<v Speaker 2>Because I say that because I know the Rays want

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<v Speaker 2>disagreements because they feel like I forget exactly what Neander

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<v Speaker 2>told me, like out of disagreements comes the right answer,

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<v Speaker 2>because there's two sides to the disagreement. When you watch

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<v Speaker 2>these games, how often do you disagree?

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<v Speaker 4>So I'm gonna give Hi a shout out. His name

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<v Speaker 4>is Kyle Young, and he's uh so it's not money,

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<v Speaker 4>it's not money. He's not with his room together at times,

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<v Speaker 4>so I watch. I'll watch with the suite with Eric

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<v Speaker 4>and Kevin ibaking those guys up there. But but sometimes

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<v Speaker 4>I'll watch from from the coach's room with Kyle, and

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<v Speaker 4>it's just interesting to get his perspective on real time

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<v Speaker 4>decisions and if there's a decision to be made, Like

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<v Speaker 4>he'll ask me a lot of times about bullpen usage,

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<v Speaker 4>pinch hitting for a guy in the sixth having to

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<v Speaker 4>come back back around all those type of things, uh,

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<v Speaker 4>and filled in and fill back, attentional walk, all the

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<v Speaker 4>you know, math decisions at times that you make and

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<v Speaker 4>to get his his perspective from the computer. But also

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<v Speaker 4>I'll tell him a lot of times I'll ask him

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<v Speaker 4>questions and I'll say, hey, you're too late. You have

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<v Speaker 4>five seconds you had you had three seconds to figure

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<v Speaker 4>that out, and you didn't touch it in fast enough.

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<v Speaker 4>So the speed of the game is obviously different. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>just getting different perspectives I think is really really important

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<v Speaker 4>and understand and for me looking at the game from

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<v Speaker 4>a little different lens. Uh, it's going to be helpful.

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<v Speaker 3>All right.

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<v Speaker 1>So I got to ask, then, do you get to

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<v Speaker 1>ask the pictures? Are you okay today? Are you good today?

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<v Speaker 1>Because then when you're sitting in that room with what

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<v Speaker 1>is Kyle? You said his name was Kyle, Kyle. When

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<v Speaker 1>you're sitting there with Kyle, does Kyle know that so

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<v Speaker 1>and so had a stomach bug, or so and so

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<v Speaker 1>or so and so's wife is mad at him, or

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<v Speaker 1>so and so's child was sick and they were up

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<v Speaker 1>all that, right, So does Kyle have that information?

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<v Speaker 3>So when he says, hey, you should have brought in X,

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<v Speaker 3>Y or Z.

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<v Speaker 1>You're like, man, you don't know that he threw up

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<v Speaker 1>all night because his kid was sick with him last night, Right?

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<v Speaker 3>Those things are those things discussed?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, well we just we play around during the

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<v Speaker 4>game with those type of things. But absolutely yeah. I

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<v Speaker 4>mean when I was managing, we would have a meeting

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<v Speaker 4>every single day, me and are my pitching coach and

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<v Speaker 4>bench coach and pitching about not just about if the

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<v Speaker 4>guy's available, that maybe somebody's got something different going on

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<v Speaker 4>that he is unavailable, or maybe the guy threw thirty

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<v Speaker 4>four pitches last night, but somehow he feels great today.

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<v Speaker 4>All those type of things are with the medical staff,

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<v Speaker 4>et cetera. Are discussed on a daily basis, and the

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<v Speaker 4>same thing in Tampa.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, so let's talk about this team. Is this

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<v Speaker 2>team the way that they're scoring the Rays team are

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<v Speaker 2>the way that they're able to win ball game? Is

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<v Speaker 2>it sustainable? When when Chandler Simpson was hitting four hundred,

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<v Speaker 2>people thought he was going to win a batting title.

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<v Speaker 2>Now I think he's hit two sixty with no pop

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<v Speaker 2>for the last month. Like, is there is this sustainable?

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<v Speaker 2>Or because the game's played in a different way, like

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<v Speaker 2>not home runs and strikeouts, Like we're gonna see different

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<v Speaker 2>types of ups and downs of a season.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I love you know, when they were playing well early,

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<v Speaker 4>I mean the style of play was so fun to watch.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, you got three guys in the middle of

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<v Speaker 4>the order that are all stars and Chandler. I know

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<v Speaker 4>he stre Chandler's been struggling lady lately, but he's gonna

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<v Speaker 4>come around and he's a game changer because it's because

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<v Speaker 4>of the speed and the on base ability and the

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<v Speaker 4>way that they can move the baseball, the way that

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<v Speaker 4>they can run the bases. Obviously the safety and the

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<v Speaker 4>bunt game is a big part of their game because

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<v Speaker 4>they are they do manufacture, so it's fun to watch.

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<v Speaker 4>It's like eighty when I called it like a month ago.

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<v Speaker 4>It's like eighties National League Baseball, where they're not just

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<v Speaker 4>for the three run homer, but they aren't having to

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<v Speaker 4>generate some offense and trying to pass the baton and

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<v Speaker 4>trying to get into the big boys in the middle.

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<v Speaker 4>So that was that was fun. I think it. I

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<v Speaker 4>think they're your whether you're a home run hitting team

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<v Speaker 4>or a team that needs to manufacture, as you guys know,

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<v Speaker 4>for a six month season, you're going to go through

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<v Speaker 4>peaks and valleys. You're going to go through times where

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<v Speaker 4>you might have a tough couple of weeks, and that's

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<v Speaker 4>just that's just part of that's just part of Major

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<v Speaker 4>League Baseball, right, you know, right now they're they're they're

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<v Speaker 4>not at their best, but I think that they're gonna

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<v Speaker 4>They're gonna come out of it. It's still a really

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<v Speaker 4>good club. They can really pitch. They have really good

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<v Speaker 4>starting pitching, and that's going to keep you in games.

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<v Speaker 4>And when you have when you have all star type

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<v Speaker 4>players in the middle, and you have guys that can

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<v Speaker 4>generate some offense around you, and they play really good

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<v Speaker 4>defense on most nights. Defense is important and be able

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<v Speaker 4>to catch the ball. Uh. I think that I think

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<v Speaker 4>that they can get back to what they were doing

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<v Speaker 4>the first couple of months.

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<v Speaker 1>Is this is this sustainable hyder though, because fifty eight

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<v Speaker 1>homers isn't a lot, right and and I get that

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<v Speaker 1>you know National League style well, but so many teams

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<v Speaker 1>low average high homers homers play in the postseason. As

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<v Speaker 1>we know, the Brewers have kind of done this style

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<v Speaker 1>for the last couple of years.

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<v Speaker 3>They get to the postseason. They can't really make get

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<v Speaker 3>it to the finish line?

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<v Speaker 5>Is this style?

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<v Speaker 3>Does this style work? And can you win a World

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<v Speaker 3>Series with it?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I think they're always gonna be looking to add right,

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<v Speaker 4>So there's gonna be you know, I think with the

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<v Speaker 4>deadline coming up, you know, it's gonna be interesting to

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<v Speaker 4>see you know what Eric and the group do and

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<v Speaker 4>what and what we do about it. You know, you're

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<v Speaker 4>always they put themselves in position two to make a

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<v Speaker 4>run and then to add up the deadline. So that's

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<v Speaker 4>gonna that's gonna be exciting. They have, you know, it's

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<v Speaker 4>a good farm system, there's good players, So we'll see

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<v Speaker 4>what happens. I can't tell you for sure if it's

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<v Speaker 4>gonna be this is gonna be the lineup that's gonna

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<v Speaker 4>be in September and and and end of the postseason.

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<v Speaker 4>I do know that they catch the ball, and I

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<v Speaker 4>do know that they have really good starting pitching. And

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<v Speaker 4>the three guys in the middle of the order are

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<v Speaker 4>super underrated. For me, Cammy Aronda and Yonni Diez are

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<v Speaker 4>three of the most underrated players in the game. They

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<v Speaker 4>are all star type hitters. So if you can surround

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<v Speaker 4>those guys with maybe a little bit more punch. I

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<v Speaker 4>think that it's a pretty pretty scary offense.

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<v Speaker 2>Would you say that Brian Baker is their closer with

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<v Speaker 2>eighteen saves right now?

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<v Speaker 4>Big? Yeah? Yeah, I had him on. I had him

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<v Speaker 4>for three or four years in Baltimore.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so you saw him in Baltimore and you didn't

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<v Speaker 2>make him the closer, so you must have been a

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<v Speaker 2>terrible manager. But you also had the mountain you had Cano.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to know, does Kyle, your analytic friend, think

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<v Speaker 2>Brian Baker is the closer or he is just a

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<v Speaker 2>guy that gets three outs?

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<v Speaker 4>That's a good question. Stratsy uh. Cashi's used him in

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<v Speaker 4>the big part of the oder in the eighth also

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<v Speaker 4>quite a few times, so yes, if flat coming up

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<v Speaker 4>in the eighth and that's and that it's that pocket

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<v Speaker 4>I've seen cash you use use bacon and uh and

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<v Speaker 4>in that fashion also so probably the eighth inning, big spot,

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<v Speaker 4>ninth inning, that's that's how Bake's being used. Is that just.

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<v Speaker 3>But is that discussed before the game?

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<v Speaker 1>Is that discussed before the game or does that just

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<v Speaker 1>happen because you said you got three seconds right?

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<v Speaker 3>Five seconds?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah? No, I think you're discussing it through. I think

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<v Speaker 4>you're discussing before the game end, during the game. So

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<v Speaker 4>you're seeing how the you're seeing how the game is

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<v Speaker 4>played out. You're seeing what the score. You're seeing how

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<v Speaker 4>you are, whether your starter went four, whether your started

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<v Speaker 4>went six and two thirds, you're seeing, you're seeing what

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<v Speaker 4>you have available. You're seeing now you're seeing kind of

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<v Speaker 4>how the game is being played the last for the

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<v Speaker 4>last nine outs of the game, and where am I

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<v Speaker 4>putting my best guy against the against the toughest part

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<v Speaker 4>of their order or the matchups that are that are

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<v Speaker 4>the best And right now, Bake has showed that he's

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<v Speaker 4>that he's gotten some really really big outs for this team,

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<v Speaker 4>not just in that night inning, but in the eighth

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<v Speaker 4>inning also, And there's a lot of trust. So those

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<v Speaker 4>kind of those kind of things were talked about all day.

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<v Speaker 1>Long, Brandon, when you when you were managing, and still

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<v Speaker 1>to this day, when you talk to Kevin Cash, do

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<v Speaker 1>you start at the ninth inning and work your way

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<v Speaker 1>back as far as how you're gonna build each game?

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<v Speaker 3>Right? Right?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you say, Okay, if everything goes perfect, we have

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<v Speaker 1>Bacon the ninth and then we have whoever in the

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<v Speaker 1>eighth and whoever in the seventh. Hopefully our starter gives

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<v Speaker 1>us six and then we can figure it out. Or

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<v Speaker 1>do you start at the starter and you look at

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<v Speaker 1>it and say, well, if everything goes wrong and you

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<v Speaker 1>need to have ABC ready, do.

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<v Speaker 3>You understand what I'm saying, Like, is the game built?

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<v Speaker 1>Because everything is I don't want to say scripted, because

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<v Speaker 1>it's not scripted, but it's discussed, right, It's it's planned

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<v Speaker 1>out for you try to cover everything that could happen.

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<v Speaker 1>So would you start the ninth inning and go back

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<v Speaker 1>or from the first thing and go forward.

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<v Speaker 4>I so I'm gonna talking about myself. The way I

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<v Speaker 4>did it in the way I did in Baltimore was

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<v Speaker 4>I had a meeting six o'clock UH with my game

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<v Speaker 4>plan guy, pitching coach, bench coach, and we did talk

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<v Speaker 4>about our bullpen availability that night, and we did bring

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<v Speaker 4>up different scenarios and I wanted to get opinions on

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<v Speaker 4>if I had two lefties in the pen, If I

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<v Speaker 4>have CNL Perez and Keegan Akan and the pen or

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<v Speaker 4>Danny Kulom who get both sides out? What pocket do

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<v Speaker 4>you do? We feel like if it's a diverse res ninder,

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<v Speaker 4>a gray U pocket, do we like kulom or Perez

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<v Speaker 4>in a big spot, et cetera. So I wanted those

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<v Speaker 4>type of opinions, so we did go over best case scenario.

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<v Speaker 4>We would go over worst case scenario. With Batista. I

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<v Speaker 4>had that kind of luxury where I just wanted to

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<v Speaker 4>get three outs, try to get it to him somehow.

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<v Speaker 4>And in those years of twenty three twenty four, I

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<v Speaker 4>had Canoe and Perez a lot of nights. With Canoe

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<v Speaker 4>is a heavy split, so I wanted him on a

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<v Speaker 4>right handed pocket. I wanted CNL on a left handed pocket.

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<v Speaker 4>I had Coulomb and Jacob Webb that were kind of

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<v Speaker 4>got both sides out, so we kind of would map

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<v Speaker 4>that out. Also, who's my long guy tonight? If things

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<v Speaker 4>do not go right and the starter goes three and

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<v Speaker 4>two thirds, who can I cover with some innings? All

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<v Speaker 4>those type of things are discussed for about fifteen minutes.

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<v Speaker 4>That's how I did it, at least about fifteen minutes

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<v Speaker 4>prior to the game.

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<v Speaker 2>Who are we missing with the race? Who are we

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<v Speaker 2>as non Rays fans just baseball fans needing to tune into?

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<v Speaker 2>Besides the power three that you said, in the middle of.

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<v Speaker 4>That order, there's some good baseball players. Taylor Walls might

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<v Speaker 4>be the best short stuff in the game defensively. To

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<v Speaker 4>watch him on a nightly basis, I did. I always

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<v Speaker 4>knew he was a good player from obviously managing against

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<v Speaker 4>these guys a lot I watched. I watched him make

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<v Speaker 4>plays against this But when you watch him play defensively,

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<v Speaker 4>it's a he plays at a different level and the

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<v Speaker 4>numbers back it up where he is just a game

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<v Speaker 4>changer defensively in the middle of the field, surrounded by

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<v Speaker 4>two really good players that are kind of coming into

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<v Speaker 4>their room. Ben Williamson's a really good baseball player. Johnny DeLuca,

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<v Speaker 4>who's coming back off injury here soon's a good baseball player.

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<v Speaker 4>It can really handle left handed pitching. Richie Pelosios has

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<v Speaker 4>done a nice job from the left side against against

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<v Speaker 4>right handed pitching. I think Cedric's gonna have a good

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<v Speaker 4>second half. So there's besides the three big boys in

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<v Speaker 4>the middle, there's some There's just some good baseball players

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<v Speaker 4>that play the game the right way. They play hard,

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<v Speaker 4>that can all do little things with small ball. So

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<v Speaker 4>I've just been impressed with how they go about how

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<v Speaker 4>they go about the game and how they play.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, well that's Brandon Hyde, Ray's senior advisor of

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<v Speaker 1>Baseball ops. Thank you for joining us Before I let

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<v Speaker 1>you go, though, I need to know this.

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<v Speaker 3>Tell Westy. People don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Westy is the director of Team Traveler. Thanks for texting

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<v Speaker 1>me back three weeks later. I really appreciate all his

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<v Speaker 1>help on something, so thanks for getting right back to me.

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<v Speaker 3>It was amazing how quick his response was.

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<v Speaker 4>He's the best in the business. That's unbelievable.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean he you know, when he needs Florida Gator

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<v Speaker 1>tickets or he needs Florida Gator gear, you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>he calls me, I get right back.

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<v Speaker 3>I sent it to him. You know what. I asked him.

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<v Speaker 1>My son's college team's playing at Clearwater. They want to

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<v Speaker 1>come to VP. I texted him. The game's been played.

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<v Speaker 1>They've already written about it, you know, in the history books.

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<v Speaker 1>Three weeks later, Oh sorry, I just saw this.

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<v Speaker 3>So thank god Elvis got back to me. That's all

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<v Speaker 3>I can say. Thank god Elvis got back. He hooked

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<v Speaker 3>him up.

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<v Speaker 4>Elvis is a man too, exactly. I'll get on him

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<v Speaker 4>about getting a little bit more, you know, back to you.

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<v Speaker 4>In a quicker fashion.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know, and tell him I'm not going to

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<v Speaker 1>give him a tip, and I'll get Toby Hall to

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<v Speaker 1>give him a tips.

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<v Speaker 4>You probably years ago.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what I never played. I never played for the Rays.

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<v Speaker 3>I took West he out and got him drunk more

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<v Speaker 3>times than he remembers.

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<v Speaker 4>So he should be one of my boulets.