WEBVTT - Maná: Revolución de Amor

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<v Speaker 1>Joseph, have you ever heard the expression the power of

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<v Speaker 1>a pass?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh? No, I haven't really really what does this mean?

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<v Speaker 2>It's funny.

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<v Speaker 1>It comes up a lot, like I think, for like

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<v Speaker 1>people that are saying no to projects or opportunities. It

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes it's more powerful to say no or be a

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<v Speaker 1>no show than to actually accept something that's given to you.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, got it, got it? Okay. I like that power

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<v Speaker 2>of the past, the power of the past. I have

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<v Speaker 2>passed on some things, so I do know what you mean.

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<v Speaker 1>What have you passed on?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, different opportunities that I don't care to speak

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<v Speaker 2>on or or regret. It just wasn't for me at

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<v Speaker 2>the time, Like I mean this, this is crazy. I

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<v Speaker 2>was asked to do someone's residency in Vegas and I

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<v Speaker 2>was just really I couldn't do it. It just the

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<v Speaker 2>person didn't really seem stable at the time, and so

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<v Speaker 2>I passed on it. And I'm really glad I did. See.

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<v Speaker 1>I love hearing that because most times I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>you passed because of like gut checks. You're like, huh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, something doesn't feel right about that. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just not going to do it. And on September third,

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand and three, Manna of All People were a

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<v Speaker 1>no show at the Grands. Well, okay, not one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>percent of no show, not one hundred percent of pass,

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<v Speaker 1>but like a ninety percent pass because Alex Gonzalez, the

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<v Speaker 1>drummer and his wife did actually show up.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, the drummer's going to come through with your dervs.

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<v Speaker 2>Honey partied like a rock star. Now.

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<v Speaker 1>The group had one Best Rock Album by a duo

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<v Speaker 1>or group for their six studio album, two thousand and

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<v Speaker 1>two's Revolution More, an album that, while still sounding very

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<v Speaker 1>much like Mana, sought to revisit the formative sound and

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<v Speaker 1>spirit of the sixties and seventies.

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<v Speaker 2>Carlo Santana, who the band had played with on his

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<v Speaker 2>mega alternate album Supernatural, even jambed with them on the

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<v Speaker 2>opening track Housticia Tierra Ilbertad, and.

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<v Speaker 1>This track actually Sawmana at I think their most politically

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<v Speaker 1>vocal in years, invoking bunch of villa and emilianosab at

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<v Speaker 1>them and imploring respect for indigenous peoples and sympathy for migrants.

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<v Speaker 2>And they kept the conscious vibes up with Boba Juan,

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<v Speaker 2>a song for migrants lost to the System. Although per usual,

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<v Speaker 2>the love songs got the most play.

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<v Speaker 1>So days after the Grammys, frontman Farah Veda would say,

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<v Speaker 1>there are many more talented people than Mana who don't

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<v Speaker 1>win Grammys. I congratulate those who won and those who didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>The Beatles never won a Grammy, and they are the.

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<v Speaker 2>Greatest part though, like still Lana no Grammy.

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<v Speaker 1>I know. Listen, they don't get it right all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>Most of the time.

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<v Speaker 2>One might argue, we don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>But over the year that followed, Mana released a Greatest

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<v Speaker 1>Hits compilation and a DVD. Wait, seriously, do you remember DVDs?

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<v Speaker 2>Dude? I think no. I threw them away. I was

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<v Speaker 2>going to say I still have some, but you don't.

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<v Speaker 2>But I do not.

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<v Speaker 1>But he doesn't Anyway. Their DVD was of the Revolution

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<v Speaker 1>that mord World tour. Then they took a hiatus. No

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<v Speaker 1>one would hear from Mana in close to five years.

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<v Speaker 2>A blow for the fans and a sigh of relief

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<v Speaker 2>for the haters.

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<v Speaker 1>Listen, hater, no hate. The rock scene that Manna was

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<v Speaker 1>a product of, the same one that Fara gave the

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<v Speaker 1>nod to in his interview post Grammys.

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<v Speaker 2>It kept on a chicken, including artists that Mana had

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<v Speaker 2>played with time to see what our old boo Vampido

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<v Speaker 2>is up to.

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<v Speaker 1>Since his departure from the group in the mid nineties,

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<v Speaker 1>Cesa El Vambido Lopez and keyboardist Evan Gonzalez had been

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<v Speaker 1>keeping pretty busy. After leaving Mana, they returned to his

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<v Speaker 1>band asulio Leta.

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<v Speaker 2>The band was well like in Mexico, but struggled with

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<v Speaker 2>its LABELMI. Eventually, Vampido left joined another band.

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<v Speaker 1>Haguaas Haguadas was kind of a super group. They were

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<v Speaker 1>built from the pieces of another recently broken up band,

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<v Speaker 1>Guy Fans, the much beloved alternative rock group from Mexico City.

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<v Speaker 2>I love them. Howatas wouldn't reach the legendary status of

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<v Speaker 2>Guy Fans, but they did get some international airplay, and

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<v Speaker 2>the fans were still shouting.

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<v Speaker 1>Is there a T shirt that says that I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like you need it for the right anyway? The band

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<v Speaker 1>was nominated a number of times for Premiozo Nuestro, but

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<v Speaker 1>they never won. That's why it's easy to imagine that

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<v Speaker 1>when Ferro n Vera mentioned deserving bands that never won awards,

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<v Speaker 1>he was nodding to peers like this, but.

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<v Speaker 2>The scene wasn't nodding back.

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<v Speaker 1>Today, we're going to ride the mana Hate train for

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<v Speaker 1>just a couple more stops before we join the band

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<v Speaker 1>post Hiaus. I'm your host, Liliana Ooscaz.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm Joseph Carrio, and this is becoming an i Con.

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<v Speaker 1>A weekly podcast where we give you the rundown on

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<v Speaker 1>how today's most famous Latin v stars have shaped pop culture.

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<v Speaker 2>And given the world some extra level.

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<v Speaker 1>Sit back and get comfortable.

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<v Speaker 2>Because we are going in the only way we know how,

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<v Speaker 2>with when unassas.

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<v Speaker 1>And a lot of opinions as we relive their greatest

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<v Speaker 1>achievements on our journey to find out what makes them

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<v Speaker 1>so iconic. Before we get into it, Joseph, I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's time to play a little game.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Jigsaw, what you got.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to read the name of an artist, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you're gonna tell me if, by your Joseph

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<v Speaker 1>Carrio rock standards, Okay, they're actually rock or not?

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<v Speaker 2>Right? Okay, hold on, but are they going to be

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<v Speaker 2>like weird kind two things that I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Listen if you answer who that is? Okay as well?

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<v Speaker 2>All right, Okay, I'm nervous.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, rock or not the Police, Rock, the Red Hot

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<v Speaker 1>Chili Peppers, Rock, Cold Play, No Jon Jet and the

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<v Speaker 1>Black Hearts.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know who that is, but I'm gonna say

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<v Speaker 2>yes because I've heard of Jone Jet and I feel

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<v Speaker 2>like people from the seventies.

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<v Speaker 1>Liked her and that was rock okay, ac DC, Rock, Fleetwood,

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<v Speaker 1>Mac Soft Rock Okay. Now Miley Cyrus during her Plastic

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<v Speaker 1>Hearts era, I Hate you Pop Rock Okay, Toto.

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<v Speaker 2>The Little Dog, Olivia Rodrigo. Olivia Rodrigo is kind of

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<v Speaker 2>like what would aleanis Morrisett be Now, should alternative rock

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<v Speaker 2>alternative pop? Or would that be like? I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>but yes, she's rock because she plays the electric guitar,

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<v Speaker 2>and I associate that with rock.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, listen, I love your reasoning. So electric guitar is

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<v Speaker 1>the common thread to all of these You hear an

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<v Speaker 1>electric guitar when you think of these bands?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yes, I love yours. You know what.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, I'm going to call up Domas Mier and be like,

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<v Speaker 1>Joseph needs a job at Rolling Stone, you know, because

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<v Speaker 1>his criteria for rock or not needs to be a

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<v Speaker 1>whole entire section of the magazine is true, our friend,

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<v Speaker 1>So to bring it back to Mana way way back

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<v Speaker 1>in twenty twenty.

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<v Speaker 2>Who I mean?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, fine, I get you. It is a year that

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<v Speaker 1>we do not talk about. Okay, we have forgotten it,

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<v Speaker 1>but that being said. In twenty twenty, Netflix release a

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<v Speaker 1>documentary called Break It All The History of Rock in

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<v Speaker 1>Latin America, and it traces the long lineage of Latin

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<v Speaker 1>rock from Richie Valens lab Bamba all the way through

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<v Speaker 1>rock music's underground role during dictatorships throughout South America and

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<v Speaker 1>then taking it to rock and Bligioma eighties and beyond.

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<v Speaker 2>And when the documentary counted Manah among the all stars

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<v Speaker 2>of Latin rock, the internet they had something to say.

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<v Speaker 1>The hashtags for the doc were flooded with tweets and

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<v Speaker 1>Instagram posts that insisted Mana nos rock. Many of the

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<v Speaker 1>posts outright mocked the documentary, and plenty criticized it for

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<v Speaker 1>giving Mana a bigger spotlight than other artists.

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<v Speaker 2>Especially bands like I Find This, whom the posters held

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<v Speaker 2>up as the real ogs with an influence on the

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<v Speaker 2>culture that Mana could never claim.

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<v Speaker 1>Mana, they argued, was a little bit more pop than rock,

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<v Speaker 1>just like Mana's success didn't happen overnight. This conversation didn't

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<v Speaker 1>suddenly start up because of a Netflix documentary.

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<v Speaker 2>It is no fun being late toward beef, and Netflix

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<v Speaker 2>was decades late. This goes back all the way to Mana's.

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<v Speaker 1>Heyday in the early mid nineties, when Mana was sailing

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<v Speaker 1>into the mainstream with Rayandolsol, the rock scene in Mexico

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<v Speaker 1>was consolidating into two camps. You had groups like Tifonis,

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<v Speaker 1>instrumentally driven yet melodic, maybe even prog rock esque, but

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<v Speaker 1>still a very far cry from the pop that dominated

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<v Speaker 1>Mexican radio.

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<v Speaker 2>Then you had the boys who kept it nasty nasty girl,

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<v Speaker 2>like the Bodio rockers, who were loud, rowdy, and often political.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a bit of prog rock versus punt rock, hair

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<v Speaker 1>metal versus grunge thing happening here, and the gen uxters

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<v Speaker 1>know what I'm talking about.

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<v Speaker 2>But whichever camp you fell into, one thing was for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>Mana's name stays out your mouth unless you're throwing shape.

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<v Speaker 1>It would be like wearing your cold Plate T shirt

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<v Speaker 1>to a nine inch nail show like that is not

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<v Speaker 1>gonna fly.

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<v Speaker 2>Or wearing Emerged to Nixtena show during the Stripped tour.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah No, We're not doing that, and Mana was at

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<v Speaker 1>best considered rock that was inoffensive enough for your parents

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<v Speaker 1>to actually let you listen to them.

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<v Speaker 2>And at worst, Mana was rock Fressa, which is rock

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<v Speaker 2>for rich Normy's aka Fressa's, which is to say, it's

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<v Speaker 2>kind of not really rock at all.

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<v Speaker 1>Case in point, Joseph's favorite band, the Barrio rockers Molotov

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<v Speaker 1>released an album titled Donde hug on las ninyas where

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<v Speaker 1>will the Girls Play, in a parody of Manna's Breakout.

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<v Speaker 2>The cover is a classic nineties edgeword ick featuring a

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<v Speaker 2>schoolgirl laying back in a car seat with her panties

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<v Speaker 2>around pernis.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, seriously, tell me you're in a band full

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<v Speaker 1>of straight boys, not men boys without telling me you're

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<v Speaker 1>in a band full of straight boys, Like what the

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<v Speaker 1>fuck is that?

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<v Speaker 2>Hey? Straight boys? Are you guys? Okay?

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<v Speaker 1>Taste aside, though, what this represents is clear. In the

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<v Speaker 1>og days of Latin rock, you risk life and limb

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<v Speaker 1>for the music. Playing the music was a transgression, so

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<v Speaker 1>the music itself should be transgressive.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, rock is rebellion, so it should sound that way.

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<v Speaker 1>Or at least that's how so many in the rock

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<v Speaker 1>scene saw it. Here's the thing about rock versus soft rock,

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<v Speaker 1>versus alt rock, versus pop rock. You can apply the

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<v Speaker 1>same argument to pretty much every single genre of music, right, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>is it like gangster rap or is it hip hop?

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<v Speaker 1>Is it reggaeton or is it salsa or is it

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<v Speaker 1>salsa romantica? Like just be inclusive.

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<v Speaker 2>Right Well, Also, I kind of feel like this is

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<v Speaker 2>where someone like a bad Bunny comes in right where

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<v Speaker 2>you know, you just change sound altogether.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I think what to me, the tipping point for

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<v Speaker 1>whether something gets classified as like the quote unquote harder

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<v Speaker 1>genre has nothing to do with the sound, has nothing

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<v Speaker 1>to do with the music. It has to do with

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<v Speaker 1>how commercial and how financially fruitful said band is. Because

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<v Speaker 1>let's be honest, at a certain point, you can be

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<v Speaker 1>the hardest rocker in the world, but if you are

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<v Speaker 1>flying on private jets and staying at the Four Seasons,

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit of your heart does go away. So

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<v Speaker 1>I do think that a lot of these distinctions between

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<v Speaker 1>like underground and like progressive rock and like all of

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<v Speaker 1>that changes when things become more commercial. It's part of

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<v Speaker 1>the commercialization of music.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, here's the thing now that I have had an

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<v Speaker 2>herbal refreshment, and I'm thinking, I just I wonder if genres,

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<v Speaker 2>like you know, how it's like, what's harder, what's this,

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<v Speaker 2>what's hip hop, what's whatever? It's like? Can't we just

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<v Speaker 2>relate the instruments to be that one thing, like going

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<v Speaker 2>back to a guitar, how I relate rock? Like, what

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<v Speaker 2>does it matter? Off long is if it has these

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<v Speaker 2>three or four instruments, wouldn't make it that whether it's

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<v Speaker 2>mean stream or not. Just curious.

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<v Speaker 1>I totally understand what you're saying, But I think no,

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<v Speaker 1>because I think think about so many different types of music, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>for example, like if country music is using an accordion, right,

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<v Speaker 1>that's country music with an accordion, But so is like

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<v Speaker 1>all the Northenol bands that we talked about, So is

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<v Speaker 1>it all country? I think what happens is music and

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<v Speaker 1>instruments make a sound. All of those sounds and how

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<v Speaker 1>they're assembled becomes I think, more of the music and

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<v Speaker 1>less about the instrument. So I think it's people have

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<v Speaker 1>a problem when things go too commercial. They want to

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<v Speaker 1>be haters, and then they're like, oh, you're not rock enough,

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<v Speaker 1>you're not reggaeton enough, you're not hip hop enough, but

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<v Speaker 1>at the core they are. And most of these bands

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<v Speaker 1>that we've covered had to really like fight their way

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<v Speaker 1>up the music food change. So there's nothing more hardcore

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<v Speaker 1>than that. When you're playing at a bar for like tips,

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<v Speaker 1>that's pretty hardcore and I'm going to get arrested for

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<v Speaker 1>it exactly. Anyway, point is with any pop culture debate,

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<v Speaker 1>the shit gets messy, right, it's a little schoolyard ish

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<v Speaker 1>and it's hard to draw straight lines.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, really, how many online arguments are just cafeteria

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<v Speaker 2>fights that someone decided to post.

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<v Speaker 1>About Exactly what a genre represents and what its artists

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<v Speaker 1>stand for don't always have to line up with how

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<v Speaker 1>the genre.

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<v Speaker 2>Sounds, okay? And what does Manas stand for? Well, we'll

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<v Speaker 2>get into it.

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<v Speaker 1>The world had not heard from Mana since they took

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<v Speaker 1>their final bow on the Revolution the More tour in

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand and three.

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<v Speaker 2>Unbeknownst to the general public, however, they had been writing

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<v Speaker 2>new materials since as early as two thousand and five.

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<v Speaker 1>In an interview, Pharaoh Veda compared Mana's time in the

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<v Speaker 1>limelight as a bullet train, hundreds of shows in more

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<v Speaker 1>than forty countries.

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<v Speaker 2>Not to mention Revolving Dora bandmates.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like I just watched the Bullet Train movie.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you? I don't know or okay?

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<v Speaker 1>Anyway, point is it was exhausting but fun and you

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<v Speaker 1>want to do nothing afterwards.

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<v Speaker 2>Got it?

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<v Speaker 1>Unlike Mana, who wrote about sixty songs in the years

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<v Speaker 1>spanning between Revolution and their follow up Amar Escombatier to

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<v Speaker 1>love is to Battle.

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<v Speaker 2>And Mana switched it up, y'all. Instead of a love song,

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<v Speaker 2>the lead single was about infidelity, Escandalo and pitch.

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<v Speaker 1>I know all about that shit, not just infidelity but

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<v Speaker 1>sliding into someone else's DMS in two thousand and six.

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<v Speaker 2>When I tell you, I know all about that trust.

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<v Speaker 2>So anyway. In an interview, Orvetta revealed that Labios Comparatidos

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<v Speaker 2>was inspired first by a friend who was cheated on

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<v Speaker 2>before Olvera himself got played, ending an eight month relationship

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<v Speaker 2>and discovering his partner had a side keys dude.

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<v Speaker 1>Quote the internet chat text messages, you can be in

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<v Speaker 1>any country and chat with a girl from the other

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<v Speaker 1>side of the world.

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<v Speaker 2>Bonacito doesn't even know about liking another girl's Instagram post yet.

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<v Speaker 1>Too real, and so was Labius Comparatidos, which sat at

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<v Speaker 1>the top of Latin radio charts for eight straight weeks.

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<v Speaker 2>Amadis Kumbaratid reached number four on the Billboard Top two

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<v Speaker 2>hundred Albums in the US at the time, the highest

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<v Speaker 2>charting Spanish language release in the US, surpassed only by

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<v Speaker 2>Shaquida's Picasti and Oral Volume one that same year, coming.

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<v Speaker 1>In second place after Shaki is an honor anyone should

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<v Speaker 1>be thankful for and to support the album Mana I'm

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<v Speaker 1>barked on their biggest tour yet, not in terms of

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<v Speaker 1>show dates but production size.

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<v Speaker 2>More than sixty tons of equipment, which look is probably

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<v Speaker 2>nothing compared to the Renaissance World Tour, but you gotta

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<v Speaker 2>hand it to Mana.

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<v Speaker 1>The world was ready to welcome Manna back with open arms.

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<v Speaker 1>The enterk of the crowd over one hundred and sixteen

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<v Speaker 1>shows shocked the band night after night over the course

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<v Speaker 1>of a year and a half.

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<v Speaker 2>Since then, the band's popularity and esteem has only grown

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<v Speaker 2>with the twenty eleven albums Dramailus and twenty fifteens Gama

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<v Speaker 2>and Sendida. The first saw a Mana that was willing

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<v Speaker 2>to experiment with different sounds.

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<v Speaker 1>Well the second saw the band finally putting the sounds

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<v Speaker 1>of the Latin rock scene in the foreground and closing

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<v Speaker 1>the record with their most political message yet, a cover

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<v Speaker 1>of Los Diigres del Norte somos mass Americanos.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you know? Prussella frontera la frontera mecruso.

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<v Speaker 1>But this wasn't the only time Manna has tried to

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<v Speaker 1>affect change in the world. In the twenty tens, Mana

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<v Speaker 1>had become a bit more politically vocal, but that doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>mean they didn't try to use their platform for good

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<v Speaker 1>before then.

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<v Speaker 2>The environmental anthem VVT seen idea from nineteen ninety two

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<v Speaker 2>is fat More was kind of like a public promise

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<v Speaker 2>to the environmentalists, because four years later the bands put

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<v Speaker 2>their money where their mouth was.

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<v Speaker 1>In nineteen ninety six, Manna launch the Selva Negra Ecological Foundation,

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<v Speaker 1>an environmental organization dedicated to protecting endangered species, restoring ecosystems,

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<v Speaker 1>and promoting environmental education.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow. Since its launch, Selba Negata has supported the sea

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<v Speaker 2>turtle population by incubating and releasing eight million tortugas.

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<v Speaker 1>They've also blanded more than eight hundred thousand trees, an

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<v Speaker 1>extensive work to preserve Mexican forests and work to foster

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<v Speaker 1>climate change education in Mexico.

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<v Speaker 2>But they're not just looking after turtles and trees. The

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<v Speaker 2>foundation also provides support to immigrant communities in the US

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<v Speaker 2>and Latin America.

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<v Speaker 1>Olvera says we don't see the planet as a country,

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<v Speaker 1>see it as a single territory.

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<v Speaker 2>But speaking of territory, venoor Veda also came out in

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<v Speaker 2>support of Puerto Rican independence in two thousand and seven.

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<v Speaker 1>And the same year the band criticized Mexico's poor sex

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<v Speaker 1>education and contraceptive access. Around the same time, the band

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<v Speaker 1>met with then Secretary of State Hillary Clinton to share

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<v Speaker 1>their perspective on immigration. But the cause that's perhaps closest

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<v Speaker 1>to lead vocalist fair Old Vetta's heart might be the

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<v Speaker 1>one we haven't mentioned.

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<v Speaker 2>While awards may not be a priority for Mana, in

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty one, the band did show up to receive

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<v Speaker 2>the Icon Award at the twenty twenty one Billboard Latin

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<v Speaker 2>Music Awards.

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<v Speaker 1>The band thanked their fans for thirty five years of

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<v Speaker 1>support before performing on a candle at stage for an

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<v Speaker 1>acoustic take on elre Lo Hukul.

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<v Speaker 2>Joining them with a twelve year old's vocalist named Mabel.

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<v Speaker 2>Shortly before the Billboard Awards, the band had appeared with

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<v Speaker 2>Mabel for an artist panel honoring single mothers.

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<v Speaker 1>Fair and Mabel shared something in common. Both were raised

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<v Speaker 1>by single moms. At the age of seven, Fair's father

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<v Speaker 1>passed away. El re Locuku is reflection on what it's

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<v Speaker 1>like to grow up in his absence.

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<v Speaker 2>After Mabel one is singing competition in Mexico, Fer pulled

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<v Speaker 2>up Carlo Santana and invited her to perform the song

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<v Speaker 2>with Manat at the upcoming awards ceremony.

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<v Speaker 1>Fair would say, when you see your mom working every day,

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<v Speaker 1>working very hard, it sets an example set obdam It's

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<v Speaker 1>the best example more than school of what makes you strong,

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<v Speaker 1>hardworking and a fighter live and I think that feeds art.

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<v Speaker 2>Their performance with Mabel shows one thing that rockers of

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<v Speaker 2>all stripes can rally around, hope for the next generation.

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<v Speaker 1>Mana began their career playing in cebee bars, where their

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<v Speaker 1>shows would routinely be interrupted by the police, and both

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<v Speaker 1>the motive and the goal of those crackdowns was fear.

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<v Speaker 2>The authorities were afraid that young people can make change happen,

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<v Speaker 2>so they try to make young people too afraid to.

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<v Speaker 1>Try Now might not melt your face with power cords

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<v Speaker 1>or send anyone's parents into a satanic panic, but their

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<v Speaker 1>success is proof that the authorities are right about one thing,

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<v Speaker 1>that a group of young people can change the world.

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<v Speaker 1>On the next, Becoming an Icon Mexico's Mariachi Man's man

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