WEBVTT - Why was Davy Crockett king of the wild frontier?

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to you stuff you should know from house stuff

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<v Speaker 1>Josh Clark, and there's Charles W. Chuck Bryant and Jerry's back. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>where's that little plastic clappy machine? We can just Jerry's back.

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<v Speaker 1>Jerry can I mentioned had surgery on her back to

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<v Speaker 1>add a third limb. She does not have the third limb,

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<v Speaker 1>but she uh is. It's been a while on her

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<v Speaker 1>back recuperating, then eventually was in a chair and now

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<v Speaker 1>she's walking around and now she can do push ups

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<v Speaker 1>with the third arm coming out of her back. It's

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<v Speaker 1>pretty awesome. But soon enough Jerry will be like pain

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<v Speaker 1>free for the first time this year, which is very excited. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>but for the time being, she's on some pretty dynamite pills.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, I to her. Um, Jerry, how are you

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<v Speaker 1>doing over there? So welcome back, Jerry. We didn't know

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<v Speaker 1>how much we missed you until you were gone for real.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, again the applaustic that's about as much sentiments

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<v Speaker 1>we allow. You know, my throat dried up. I had

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<v Speaker 1>like some sort of adverse reaction to that. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>let's do this. Oh really, yeah, man, fine, let's Davie Crockett.

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<v Speaker 1>I should point out first off that when I was

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<v Speaker 1>a kid visiting my grandparents in Memphis, Tennessee, Davy Crockett land, Um,

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<v Speaker 1>I have a great picture, and people who always say, like,

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<v Speaker 1>why don't you ever post the pictures you talk about?

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<v Speaker 1>But I had this great picture of me when I

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<v Speaker 1>was like five years old. Coon skin cap, fringe, vest, boots,

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<v Speaker 1>little plastic bowie, knife, long muzzle loading. Must get. I

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<v Speaker 1>think I know this very must get you're talking about. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so I was just like totally rigged out and of

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<v Speaker 1>cessed with watching the old Davy Crockett show, even though

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<v Speaker 1>it was like nineteen and that show ran the fifties.

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<v Speaker 1>It was one of those deals like we still grew

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<v Speaker 1>up on Gilligan's Island on these older shows. Well, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think Disney Walt Disney Presents or something like that.

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<v Speaker 1>They ran a lot of that stuff years later. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I was way into it. That's awesome because I was

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<v Speaker 1>into camping early on, and it was just really fit

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<v Speaker 1>the bill for me. I love the song the whole deal. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I had a coonskin cap too, But so did Jerry.

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<v Speaker 1>The only yes she did h the only extray couch

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<v Speaker 1>from all I had was a deer skin water bag

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<v Speaker 1>filled with wine. Oh yeah, yeah, a boda bag. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't have one, but Emily does and she still

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<v Speaker 1>puts wine in it and sneakes it in the concerts.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, so let's do it. Uh so, Chuck, you

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<v Speaker 1>you made reference to Davy Crockett from the fifties, the

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<v Speaker 1>Disney thing, not Daniel Boone. No, Daniel Boone was prior

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<v Speaker 1>to Davy Crockett. Davy Crockett became Daniel Boone's successor. Is

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<v Speaker 1>the the um personification of the American push westward. For

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<v Speaker 1>a long time, David Crockett personified the conquering of the

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<v Speaker 1>Indian Um, the wrestling of the bear, taming of this

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<v Speaker 1>land and through America, America. Although he spent like his

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<v Speaker 1>entire life in Tennessee pretty much, No, that's not true.

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<v Speaker 1>He went to Texas, he did, But he spent a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of time in Alabama and actually homesteaded there for

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<v Speaker 1>a little while around Talladega. Not for too long, though,

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<v Speaker 1>for long enough. Like his family in Tennessee are all

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<v Speaker 1>very adamant about being a lifelong Tennessee guy, right and

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<v Speaker 1>in his heart he would agree with that entirely. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>He was born in Tennessee, near Knoxville, Greene County. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he uh spent most of his life there, even when

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<v Speaker 1>he argue and in O F t um, he was

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<v Speaker 1>in Tennessee, I believe for the most part. Um. He Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>His autobio bography was titled UM David Crockett of Tennessee

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<v Speaker 1>parentheses really yeah not Alabama. Yeah, he went to West

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<v Speaker 1>Tennessee for a while too. We'll get to all this,

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<v Speaker 1>but yeah, let's go back to the Disney's a volunteer.

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<v Speaker 1>So twenty years after, Yeah it is? Is that where

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<v Speaker 1>it came from him? No? I don't think so. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>but because he did volunteer, maybe you never know. Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>I wonder if that was like kind of a thing

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<v Speaker 1>and it wasn't just him. But yeah, the Tennessee is

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<v Speaker 1>the volunteer state, and Davy Crockett was a big time volunteer.

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<v Speaker 1>Or maybe he felt pressure too because he was in Tennessee.

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<v Speaker 1>He's like, I really the peer pressure state. Want to

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<v Speaker 1>but I guess I must. Ye. Um, so Disney, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>talking about Disney, whether you like it or not, No,

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<v Speaker 1>but let's do it. I love that show. So twenty

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<v Speaker 1>years after Disney runs five episodes, that's the run of

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<v Speaker 1>the Davy Crockett Show. Yeah, there was only five episodes.

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<v Speaker 1>I even looked that up because I was like, that

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<v Speaker 1>can't be right. Yeah, I saw a hundred of them. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you saw those five times each. Um, so they in

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<v Speaker 1>from ninety five and you was a kid in nineteen seventy,

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<v Speaker 1>one full year before I was born, by the way, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I was four. I was still watching it, loving this stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>So I had staying power. But what had even more

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<v Speaker 1>staying power was Davy Crockett himself, because the Disney thing

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<v Speaker 1>ran a full hundred and fifteen years after Davy Crockett died. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he was already kind of a legend in his own

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<v Speaker 1>time as well. But this Disney thing, there was Disney

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<v Speaker 1>Davy Crockett fever in the mid fifties. Yeah. They supposedly

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<v Speaker 1>at its peak, five thousand coon skin caps a day

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<v Speaker 1>were selling. Within a couple of months of the premiere

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<v Speaker 1>of the first Davy Crockett episode, a hundred million dollars

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<v Speaker 1>had been made off of the Davy Crockett franchise. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he just came on like a ton of bricks and uh,

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<v Speaker 1>of course you know the coinskin cap if you Simpsons,

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<v Speaker 1>Jebediagh Springfield as ensconcedin, was it bronze? Is that a

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<v Speaker 1>bronze statue? I can't really tell. It's on TV and

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<v Speaker 1>that cartoon form, so it's a statue. Uh. And we

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<v Speaker 1>don't know for sure if he actually wore a coonskin cap.

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<v Speaker 1>He did, Well, that's not what I saw. I saw

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<v Speaker 1>that Daniel Boone did not for sure, and Davy Crockett

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<v Speaker 1>more likely wore wildcatter, fox and possibly coon skin on occasion.

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<v Speaker 1>I was gonna say that it was very apropos that

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<v Speaker 1>that picture of you all dolled up like Davy Crockett

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<v Speaker 1>was taken in Memphis, because that is supposedly the first

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<v Speaker 1>time he wore the little fringe e hunting shirt and

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<v Speaker 1>the coonskin cap when he had it out from Memphis

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<v Speaker 1>to Texas, which we'll talk about later. That's what I saw,

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<v Speaker 1>man alive. This is interesting, but I think this illustrates

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<v Speaker 1>a really great point about Davy Crockett. There are few

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<v Speaker 1>people who definitively lived who have more legends and possible

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<v Speaker 1>half truth swirling around them then Davy Crockett yeah. I

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<v Speaker 1>think some people out there might even think that he

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't even a real dude. It's just like a tall

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<v Speaker 1>tale guy. Yeah, you know, he very much lived. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>And we got to mention the song. Well. First of all,

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<v Speaker 1>Fess Parker started as Davy Crockett. Best Parker also start

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<v Speaker 1>as Daniel Boone. Is that right? I guess they were

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<v Speaker 1>like it's typecast that um. And he also the the

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<v Speaker 1>TV theme song was sung by the Wellington's the famous

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<v Speaker 1>song King of the Wild Frontier. UM. But in ninety

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<v Speaker 1>four different people recorded it, and all four of them

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<v Speaker 1>in the same year recorded the same song landed in

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<v Speaker 1>the top ten. That's how popular that song was, or

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<v Speaker 1>that's how just kind of um undemanding audiences were in

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<v Speaker 1>the fifties radio audience, maybe so. But Best Parker did

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<v Speaker 1>one of the virsions. He also did sang yeah, man,

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<v Speaker 1>that guy made some dough off of Davy Crockett, unbelievable. Ironically,

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<v Speaker 1>he was afraid of snakes, was he really? Isn't that

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<v Speaker 1>a wine too? Best Parker h not a winery, not

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<v Speaker 1>that I don't know of. That's that's a dingy winery

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<v Speaker 1>right there. It's wine pass through. Best Parkers cap there's

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<v Speaker 1>some winery that has a name similar to that. Best Parker. Yeah, no,

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<v Speaker 1>nont know, Test Parker, I don't know. I know, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>getting confused. So I tell him about the Davy Crockett,

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<v Speaker 1>the U. S. Armies Davy Crockett. That was a rocket.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you see that thing? Uh? No? Was it cool? Yeah? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it was in the nineteen sixties the Army. It was

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<v Speaker 1>a artillery launcher lightweight that fired mortars that had nuclear warheads,

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<v Speaker 1>and they called it the Davy Crockett. Yeah, it fired

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<v Speaker 1>seventy pound nuclear warheads. That's what it was designed to do.

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<v Speaker 1>And they never deployed it. But it was basically a

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of pipes that like you drive up on your

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<v Speaker 1>jeep about one to two miles away from the enemy.

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<v Speaker 1>In Europe, the Ruskies, I guess, and assembled this thing

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<v Speaker 1>real quick and dropped the seventy pound warhead mortaring and

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<v Speaker 1>shot it off under the enemy. It was never used,

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<v Speaker 1>though not as far as I know. It was tested

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<v Speaker 1>and there's pictures of, like, I mean, it might as

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<v Speaker 1>well be like a GHI Joe drawing, like the pictures

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<v Speaker 1>of this thing being tested with like the jeep and

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<v Speaker 1>the guys standing next to it, and there's like, it's

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<v Speaker 1>just cool. You have to check that out. Yeah, Luckily,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think they anyone's ever set off a warhead

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<v Speaker 1>on anybody in battle, aside from Herashima Nagasaki, aside from us.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Davy Crockett shameful, um alright. So he was

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<v Speaker 1>born in Tennessee in six uh. At twelve years old,

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<v Speaker 1>his dad sent him off to this dude, Jacob Siler,

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<v Speaker 1>to help drive cattle to Virginia, and like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>as a twelve year old, like they're working hard back then,

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<v Speaker 1>and this dude, the job ended up, you know, ended

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<v Speaker 1>and the Silas guy like forcibly detained him as like

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<v Speaker 1>a slave of sorts. And he was like, screw this,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna a hike seven miles in the snow out

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<v Speaker 1>of here in the middle of the night. What's crazy

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<v Speaker 1>is in two hours? Yeah, he ran it. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>even think I could run on a flat plane seven

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<v Speaker 1>miles and two hours. Well, they don't write songs and

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<v Speaker 1>TV shows about either, No, they didn't. Actually, we did

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<v Speaker 1>have a TV show in a song about us. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but we commissioned it virtually. Yeah, that's true. Yeah, alright,

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<v Speaker 1>So he drops out of school while he does a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of hooky, and his dad gets pretty ticked off

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<v Speaker 1>at him. So he's like, basically, I'm gonna leave home

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<v Speaker 1>at a young age because I'm not into the school

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<v Speaker 1>and thing. Yeah he um. He for across his lifetime

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<v Speaker 1>he became a very successful person. Um, and he kind

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<v Speaker 1>of wore the fact that he didn't have much school

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<v Speaker 1>and as a badge of honor, like he was very

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<v Speaker 1>proud of how far he'd gotten in life without formal education. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, as a kid, he hated school. Is the

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<v Speaker 1>impression I have. Yeah. He called it a strategic withdrawal.

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<v Speaker 1>Left for two and a half years, came home like

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<v Speaker 1>a grown person. It was like sixteen, and his family

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<v Speaker 1>was like, who is this larger version of my son?

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<v Speaker 1>And they forgave him and it was all good. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>He actually stuck around and um, helped work off some

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<v Speaker 1>of his father's seventies six dollar debt for a year,

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<v Speaker 1>and went to school as a peace offering for another

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<v Speaker 1>six months, and then said okay, let's to forget it.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna go make my own way. And this is

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<v Speaker 1>when he begins to volunteer. That's right, volunteered with the

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<v Speaker 1>Tennessee Militia. Yeah, his military career started. There lots of

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<v Speaker 1>militia action going on, like he was in a bunch

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<v Speaker 1>of different militias. It seemed like, yeah, and what he

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<v Speaker 1>was part of. UM is one of the more despicable

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<v Speaker 1>parts of American history, the removal of Indians, specifically, in

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<v Speaker 1>this case, the Southern Indians from their lands. There was

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of land UM in what are now the

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<v Speaker 1>Southern United States and southeastern United States that was right

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<v Speaker 1>for cotton growing, and there were a lot of people

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<v Speaker 1>who on at that land, and there were a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of treaties. Basically, the the militias would go in battle

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<v Speaker 1>the Creeks or the Choctaws or the Cherokees or whoever,

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<v Speaker 1>and UM then after their defeat, would force a treaty

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<v Speaker 1>on them. And Andrew Jackson, who later became president, was

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<v Speaker 1>personally responsible for nine of eleven treaties between eighteen fourteen

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<v Speaker 1>and eighteen twenty four, which means nine of eleven Indian massacres.

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<v Speaker 1>Basically the American h and there are massacres on both sides,

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<v Speaker 1>and Davy Crockett actually took place in one of the massacres.

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<v Speaker 1>A a attributive massacre, right, yeah. I think that was

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<v Speaker 1>his first military duty. He enlisted to avenge the attack

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<v Speaker 1>on Fort MEM's, Alabama, and with Andrew Jackson, Uh did

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<v Speaker 1>so Indian massacre right, very sad. Yeah, it was the

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<v Speaker 1>name of the town was Tolosa Hatchie and it was

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<v Speaker 1>in Alabama. Um. And I believe they killed about two

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<v Speaker 1>d Indian men and uh eighty four women and children

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<v Speaker 1>were captured. And then whoever he's left alive, I guess

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<v Speaker 1>Andrew Jackson came in and negotiated a treaty. They probably

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<v Speaker 1>kept one man alive to sign the right exactly, and

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<v Speaker 1>it basically said all the rest of you have to

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<v Speaker 1>get off this land, but you can go west. And

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<v Speaker 1>then as this happened time and time again, UM, more

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<v Speaker 1>and more Americans moved south and established plantations around this time.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's the context of what was going on in Davy.

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<v Speaker 1>Crockett was volunteering with the militia basically. Yeah, and it

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<v Speaker 1>seemed like he really hoped all over the place between like, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>some military militia work, because these are when you enlisted.

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<v Speaker 1>It was like a ninety day enlistment. It wasn't like

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<v Speaker 1>years and years, UM and then like some political work

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<v Speaker 1>before he you know, got real serious. He was a

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<v Speaker 1>town commissioner for a little while. He was a Justice

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<v Speaker 1>of the Piece for a couple of years. So he

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<v Speaker 1>was just sort of floating around, a little militia work,

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<v Speaker 1>a little political work, Indian fighting. Yeah, he was a

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<v Speaker 1>man of many fringe jackets. I guess he really was. Well, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>before we keep going, you want to do a message break, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's a good time. And then things get

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<v Speaker 1>serious for Davy Crockett. So we were talking Chuck about um,

0:14:22.960 --> 0:14:27.920
<v Speaker 1>how Davy Crockett wore many many hats, and we want

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<v Speaker 1>to say also that he although he was an Indian

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<v Speaker 1>fighter and actually became very much respected as one. That's

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<v Speaker 1>part of his initial legend was that he was an

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<v Speaker 1>Indian fighter, which was very much admired among UM Americans

0:14:43.160 --> 0:14:50.720
<v Speaker 1>at the time. UM. He eventually it parted from that

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<v Speaker 1>image very publicly, but first he kind of had to

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<v Speaker 1>create a public platform to do that on I guess right. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he Uh. He was a commissioner for a while in

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<v Speaker 1>UM Tennessee, and then he was elected to the Tennessee

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<v Speaker 1>Legislature and then finally in UM he won a seat

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<v Speaker 1>in Congress. Yeah, his first his first like he was

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<v Speaker 1>actual Congressional Representative Tennessee seven, that's right, and served two

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<v Speaker 1>terms and then lost basically the third term because he

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<v Speaker 1>came out so vehemently opposed to what Jackson was doing

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<v Speaker 1>with like taking back the land. Yeah. So the Supreme

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<v Speaker 1>Court ruled that, um, that that Native Americans had a

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<v Speaker 1>right to occupancy. Yes, they can live in North America,

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<v Speaker 1>but that is trumped by Americans right of discovery. Somehow

0:15:51.080 --> 0:15:54.640
<v Speaker 1>they decided that we discovered this land that you already

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<v Speaker 1>lived on, which trumps your right to live on it.

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<v Speaker 1>Did that anyone ever? Say? No, no, no, we discovered

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<v Speaker 1>it because we're here, right, And they were cut down

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<v Speaker 1>where they stood. Um. So the the I guess the

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<v Speaker 1>idea the issue of Indian removal in this time was

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<v Speaker 1>being played out in the courts. Andrew Jackson becomes president,

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<v Speaker 1>gets the Indian Removal Act passed through, which basically says,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm the president, I deal with treaties with Indians. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>taking this out of the hands of the courts, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm by the way, Andrew Jackson, And you know how

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<v Speaker 1>I feel about Indian removal. Y'all can get out west right,

0:16:29.240 --> 0:16:31.720
<v Speaker 1>and apparently this is egregious enough to make David Krack

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<v Speaker 1>would say, you know what, I'm totally rethinking this land

0:16:34.280 --> 0:16:37.800
<v Speaker 1>use policy, this land grab, the Indian Removal Act. And

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<v Speaker 1>even though we're both from Tennessee and we're both in

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<v Speaker 1>the same political party, I'm publicly separating myself from you

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<v Speaker 1>and your policies. Mr President. That was a big deal

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<v Speaker 1>on He lost because of it, he did, but he

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<v Speaker 1>lost very narrowly, I believe two fifty two votes. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>And actually, in our we have a video series people

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<v Speaker 1>called Trapped in a Meeting, And in this week's Trapped

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<v Speaker 1>in a Meeting, we learned that while Andrew Jackson was

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<v Speaker 1>in office, he had an assassination attempt on his life.

0:17:07.200 --> 0:17:11.840
<v Speaker 1>And Davy Crockett, this guy like this, this mentally ill guy,

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<v Speaker 1>went to shoot Andrew Jackson on the steps of the Capitol.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you remember we talked about in the Insanity

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<v Speaker 1>Defense episode. Yeah, and Davy Crockett was one of the

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<v Speaker 1>guys who subdued. He like jumped into action because he's

0:17:21.359 --> 0:17:23.600
<v Speaker 1>Davy Crockett. Yeah, even though they already a post one

0:17:23.640 --> 0:17:25.680
<v Speaker 1>another politically at this poet's still going to help save

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<v Speaker 1>the President stand up guy. Yeah, Davy Crock he was.

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<v Speaker 1>It turned out to be a pretty cool dude. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>So he loses that after for his third bid, third

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<v Speaker 1>consecutive term, he loses, uh, his bid, and um he

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<v Speaker 1>goes off and starts making money by making and selling

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<v Speaker 1>barrel staves, like the slats he used to make whiskey

0:17:47.840 --> 0:17:51.240
<v Speaker 1>and wine barrels. It's apparently it's pretty lucrative at the time. Yeah,

0:17:51.240 --> 0:17:54.080
<v Speaker 1>he almost doing it though. Yeah, there was a boat

0:17:54.080 --> 0:17:57.040
<v Speaker 1>wreck on the Mississippi River carrying those barrel staves and

0:17:57.400 --> 0:17:59.439
<v Speaker 1>he almost died then. And he almost died earlier in

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<v Speaker 1>his life when he had malaria when he was home

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<v Speaker 1>studying in Alabama. So he's he you know, he was

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<v Speaker 1>a rough and tumble guy, you know. Um. Supposedly also

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<v Speaker 1>during this time he killed a hundred and five bears

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<v Speaker 1>in a year, killed him one when he was only three,

0:18:14.800 --> 0:18:17.359
<v Speaker 1>which well, that's a Disney legend. And also we should

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<v Speaker 1>say that the idea that he was a King of

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<v Speaker 1>the Wild Frontier, that term, that label came directly from

0:18:23.960 --> 0:18:27.440
<v Speaker 1>Disney as well. He obviously didn't wrestle a bear when

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<v Speaker 1>he was only three, but he was a very well

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<v Speaker 1>known bear hunter. Um. Whether he killed a hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>five or not, that's kind of up for debate. But

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<v Speaker 1>if you want to read his firsthand account of it,

0:18:39.359 --> 0:18:43.560
<v Speaker 1>there's an awesome article called bear Hunting in Tennessee Colan

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<v Speaker 1>Davy Crockett tells Tall Tales. It's on George Mason University's website.

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<v Speaker 1>Check it out. It's he's a pretty awesome author. He

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<v Speaker 1>was talking about how he's hunting with his eight dogs,

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<v Speaker 1>and his dogs are the best dogs on the planet,

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<v Speaker 1>flushing out bear. Um. And he saw some other fellas

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<v Speaker 1>come up and they wanted to hunt with him, and

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<v Speaker 1>they had like twenty dogs, but all the dogs were terrible.

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<v Speaker 1>He said they couldn't bark at a bear without having

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<v Speaker 1>to lean up against a tree to rest for a

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<v Speaker 1>little while. Um. So he left the dogs behind and

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<v Speaker 1>let him chew on some bare bones and he took

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<v Speaker 1>his dogs out. It's awesome, like this guy is totally

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<v Speaker 1>uneducated frontiersman who also went to Congress and kind of

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<v Speaker 1>a humorous too. Yeah. I think the song actually originally went,

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<v Speaker 1>um hike seven miles in the snow and two hours

0:19:31.080 --> 0:19:34.080
<v Speaker 1>when he was only twelve, and they're like, let's just

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<v Speaker 1>make something up. Killed him a bear. It wasn't even

0:19:36.800 --> 0:19:40.840
<v Speaker 1>killed it's k I l T killed him a bar. Yeah. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>um probe that song is still just like instantly comes

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<v Speaker 1>in my head, the lyrics and everything. So he lost

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<v Speaker 1>his third congressional bid um and then he starts gaining

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<v Speaker 1>more fame and notoriety. And this is at a time

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<v Speaker 1>where you know, it's it's it was pre internet. Yeah,

0:20:01.280 --> 0:20:03.639
<v Speaker 1>was the pre internet a little it was pre Internet,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was a time where it was you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it wasn't the easiest thing to gain this kind of notoriety.

0:20:08.480 --> 0:20:11.320
<v Speaker 1>Like that just shows how popular he was, Like he

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<v Speaker 1>was one of the most famous people in the country. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>they had these uh Davy Crockett Almanacs published um lots

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<v Speaker 1>of books written about him. One lied and said that

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<v Speaker 1>it was an autobiography to sell books, and the Almanacs

0:20:25.520 --> 0:20:28.200
<v Speaker 1>actually came out of that. They used that book as

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<v Speaker 1>the basis of it. Yeah. So so that just kind

0:20:31.760 --> 0:20:34.679
<v Speaker 1>of perpetuated all these lies, and since it was attributed

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<v Speaker 1>to him, that gave him a reputation for spinning tall

0:20:37.800 --> 0:20:43.000
<v Speaker 1>tales about himself. But she didn't necessarily that that wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>necessarily untrue. He just didn't spin him quite as much

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<v Speaker 1>as as other people did about him. There was a

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<v Speaker 1>play by James Kirk Paulding called The Line of the West,

0:20:51.119 --> 0:20:56.040
<v Speaker 1>and the character Nimrod Wildfire was based on Davy Crockett.

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<v Speaker 1>And um, he finally did get together with with of

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<v Speaker 1>because as you said, he wasn't educated, so he had

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<v Speaker 1>got a little help. But he eventually did write his

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<v Speaker 1>own autobiography with with the help of a co author. Yeah,

0:21:08.040 --> 0:21:10.359
<v Speaker 1>he did. And um you can very much compare it

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<v Speaker 1>to Barack Obama writing The Audacity of Hope, because it

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<v Speaker 1>was released at a time when the Whigs were starting

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<v Speaker 1>to tout Um Davy Crockett as a possible challenger I

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<v Speaker 1>guess to Andrew Jackson for the presidency. Uh A Native

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<v Speaker 1>A Native A narrative of the life of Davy Crockett

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<v Speaker 1>of the State of Tennessee by Thomas Chilton, and Davy

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<v Speaker 1>Crockett was the official one. Yeah. So the problem is

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<v Speaker 1>Chuck he Um didn't win his re election bid, so

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<v Speaker 1>his his um idea of going into the presidency. The

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<v Speaker 1>primary I guess in eighteen thirty six was that his

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<v Speaker 1>plan that yeah, he was going along with that, and

0:21:53.800 --> 0:21:56.040
<v Speaker 1>some of the Whigs were like, let's do it. But

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<v Speaker 1>since he he was knocked out of Congress in eighteen

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<v Speaker 1>thirty five, he did make a third trip back to

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<v Speaker 1>Congress from eighteen to eighteen thirty five, but then he

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<v Speaker 1>was defeated by a peg leg lawyer, yeah, named Adam Huntsman. Yeah. Um,

0:22:12.600 --> 0:22:16.560
<v Speaker 1>very narrowly, but he lost. So I think at that

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<v Speaker 1>point he was like, I'm kind of done with Congress

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<v Speaker 1>for a while. Yeah, And that his losing to the

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<v Speaker 1>that peg leg lawyer, as he was dubbed um, gave

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<v Speaker 1>rise to his famous quote, Uh, since you have chosen

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<v Speaker 1>to elect a man with a timber toe to succeed me,

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<v Speaker 1>you may all go to Hell and I will go

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<v Speaker 1>to Texas. And he was basically like, I want to

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<v Speaker 1>go check out Texas and see what's out there. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>This was like he didn't go westward, like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>to California anything like that. Like Texas was super west

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<v Speaker 1>at the time. Yeah, and it was a Mexican state

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<v Speaker 1>that was um in a struggle for independence. There was

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<v Speaker 1>a rebellion going on there. Yeah, that's not why I

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<v Speaker 1>went though. No, apparently he got caught up in that.

0:22:54.760 --> 0:22:57.600
<v Speaker 1>But he went there just to explore and I was

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<v Speaker 1>going to settle down with his family and just you know,

0:22:59.520 --> 0:23:02.600
<v Speaker 1>live on the hand, right, there's a lot of money

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<v Speaker 1>to be made there. Well, yeah, he said, what I've

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<v Speaker 1>seen of Texas, there is a world of country here

0:23:07.800 --> 0:23:10.760
<v Speaker 1>to settle. I had rather be in my present situation

0:23:10.760 --> 0:23:13.320
<v Speaker 1>than to be elected to a seat in Congress for life.

0:23:13.480 --> 0:23:15.880
<v Speaker 1>So he really thumbed his nose at politics at that time.

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<v Speaker 1>Or he was just really happy too with Texas. Yeah,

0:23:18.840 --> 0:23:22.000
<v Speaker 1>that's true. Um. He also it didn't take very long

0:23:22.000 --> 0:23:24.560
<v Speaker 1>for him to get there, and I guess get caught

0:23:24.640 --> 0:23:27.840
<v Speaker 1>up in the rebellion that was going on that really

0:23:27.880 --> 0:23:30.359
<v Speaker 1>kind of spoke to him in his spirit. Yeah. They

0:23:30.400 --> 0:23:32.320
<v Speaker 1>said he loved a good fight. Yeah. I think he

0:23:32.359 --> 0:23:34.720
<v Speaker 1>just couldn't resist. Yeah. Um, well, I mean he was

0:23:34.720 --> 0:23:38.560
<v Speaker 1>a bear hunter for goodness sake. Um. So he gets

0:23:38.600 --> 0:23:42.960
<v Speaker 1>there and um basically aligns himself with the rebel movement

0:23:43.400 --> 0:23:46.679
<v Speaker 1>who asked him in his traveling companion to sign an

0:23:46.680 --> 0:23:49.720
<v Speaker 1>oath of allegiance to it, and uh, in it, it

0:23:49.760 --> 0:23:54.320
<v Speaker 1>basically says like I Davy Crockett am pledge allegiance to

0:23:54.359 --> 0:23:57.480
<v Speaker 1>this rebellion and any future government that may come out

0:23:57.480 --> 0:23:59.679
<v Speaker 1>of it. David Krack is like, I'm not signing that

0:23:59.760 --> 0:24:03.359
<v Speaker 1>in she put Republican before government because he wasn't about

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<v Speaker 1>to sign his allegiance over to some you know, tyrannical

0:24:06.800 --> 0:24:08.800
<v Speaker 1>government that came out of this rebellion. He didn't know.

0:24:09.440 --> 0:24:11.920
<v Speaker 1>So he was one to head his bets, that's right,

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<v Speaker 1>very smartly, so he signed it and um very famously,

0:24:17.000 --> 0:24:20.080
<v Speaker 1>Uh died at the Siege of the Alamo, which I

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<v Speaker 1>know you have visited the Alamo and there's no basement.

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<v Speaker 1>There's no basement, and it's I always hear from everybody

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<v Speaker 1>that visits. I have not how small it is. Everyone's

0:24:29.359 --> 0:24:32.920
<v Speaker 1>always underwhelmed. It's basically like one room. Yeah. Yeah. Umi

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<v Speaker 1>took me there and it's in San Antonio. You go

0:24:35.280 --> 0:24:39.679
<v Speaker 1>in and you're like, it's this lump of history in

0:24:39.720 --> 0:24:42.080
<v Speaker 1>the middle of downtown San Antonio. Yeah, and it's just

0:24:42.119 --> 0:24:44.880
<v Speaker 1>it's like was this a bank or was it the Alamo? Yeah,

0:24:44.920 --> 0:24:47.280
<v Speaker 1>I mean like there's it's just there's a couple of

0:24:47.280 --> 0:24:49.760
<v Speaker 1>side rooms, but it's really just one main room. Yeah.

0:24:49.760 --> 0:24:52.200
<v Speaker 1>I always just pictured, you know, some huge fort. Yeah

0:24:52.240 --> 0:24:55.320
<v Speaker 1>you'd think so, And um, I'll visit it one day

0:24:55.320 --> 0:24:58.360
<v Speaker 1>for sure. The gardens, the grounds are amazing. Yeah, yeah,

0:24:58.400 --> 0:25:00.840
<v Speaker 1>it's it's very cool. It's worth going to for sure. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Well I love being historical landmarks. Do you know you

0:25:03.680 --> 0:25:06.400
<v Speaker 1>should do south by Southwest to fly into San Antonio

0:25:06.440 --> 0:25:09.080
<v Speaker 1>and drive to Austin. Yeah, that's what you did, right.

0:25:09.160 --> 0:25:13.640
<v Speaker 1>So the Alamo is great. I'm gonna visit. He famously

0:25:13.720 --> 0:25:16.719
<v Speaker 1>died defending the Alamo, but there are many versions of

0:25:16.760 --> 0:25:22.119
<v Speaker 1>how that exactly that went down from um died surrounded

0:25:22.119 --> 0:25:25.960
<v Speaker 1>by sixteen dead Mexicans that he killed with his hand

0:25:26.000 --> 0:25:29.560
<v Speaker 1>on a knife in the back of one. Two captured

0:25:29.680 --> 0:25:33.359
<v Speaker 1>and executed. Two killed at the very beginning of the

0:25:33.400 --> 0:25:36.280
<v Speaker 1>thing and didn't even see much action. Yeah, but we

0:25:36.359 --> 0:25:39.639
<v Speaker 1>think we have a pretty definitive story. Yeah, there's um

0:25:39.680 --> 0:25:41.879
<v Speaker 1>some other stuff that he supposedly did do. Like he

0:25:41.960 --> 0:25:46.240
<v Speaker 1>was um documented is running all over the Alamo, like

0:25:46.680 --> 0:25:52.199
<v Speaker 1>keeping everybody animated, keeping one write exactly. UM. And he

0:25:52.280 --> 0:25:55.080
<v Speaker 1>supposedly played his fiddle a lot like very rousing tune,

0:25:55.160 --> 0:25:57.639
<v Speaker 1>just tried to keep everyone's spirits and energy up and

0:25:57.800 --> 0:26:02.440
<v Speaker 1>they're defending the small little building. Um. He supposedly took

0:26:02.480 --> 0:26:06.359
<v Speaker 1>out five gunners in succession who were trying to shoot

0:26:06.359 --> 0:26:10.080
<v Speaker 1>a cannon at the Alamo with Old Betsy his musket. Yeah.

0:26:10.160 --> 0:26:13.639
<v Speaker 1>And um. He also supposedly came very close to hitting

0:26:14.119 --> 0:26:19.399
<v Speaker 1>um Antonio Santa Anna, the general who was leading the siege. Um,

0:26:20.000 --> 0:26:23.119
<v Speaker 1>but just missed him, even though Santa Anna thought he

0:26:23.160 --> 0:26:26.320
<v Speaker 1>was well out of range of the guns. And I

0:26:26.400 --> 0:26:29.480
<v Speaker 1>see him, but there's no way he can do yeah, exactly. Um.

0:26:29.560 --> 0:26:31.400
<v Speaker 1>So he did do some stuff. He's documented to doing

0:26:31.440 --> 0:26:35.320
<v Speaker 1>something probably truthful. But the problem there was always a

0:26:35.359 --> 0:26:38.680
<v Speaker 1>problem with how he died, in that he was captured,

0:26:39.000 --> 0:26:43.600
<v Speaker 1>and a great brave Indian fighting bear hunter like is

0:26:44.480 --> 0:26:48.040
<v Speaker 1>who represents all of America, isn't supposed to be captured

0:26:48.040 --> 0:26:49.720
<v Speaker 1>because if you capture, that means you put your gun

0:26:49.760 --> 0:26:52.840
<v Speaker 1>down or you didn't die fighting. Well, I supposed he

0:26:52.920 --> 0:26:54.960
<v Speaker 1>ran out of bullets and then we started clubbing them

0:26:55.000 --> 0:26:57.960
<v Speaker 1>with his gun, killing them with his you know, bare

0:26:58.000 --> 0:27:00.280
<v Speaker 1>hands in a in a butt of a gun. Right,

0:27:00.320 --> 0:27:04.200
<v Speaker 1>So that's the fictitious version. The other versions from eyewitnesses

0:27:04.520 --> 0:27:09.000
<v Speaker 1>contradict that. So America long struggled with how Davy Crockett died.

0:27:09.080 --> 0:27:13.680
<v Speaker 1>And then in um the diary of one of the

0:27:13.760 --> 0:27:17.600
<v Speaker 1>Mexican Army soldiers who was there at the siege was

0:27:17.640 --> 0:27:21.720
<v Speaker 1>published and um, it basically laid to rest, like, yes,

0:27:21.880 --> 0:27:26.159
<v Speaker 1>David Crockett was among those captured. It was five or

0:27:26.160 --> 0:27:29.080
<v Speaker 1>six people, yep, like everybody else had been killed or

0:27:29.200 --> 0:27:33.920
<v Speaker 1>or um, we're women basically uh. And Crockett was among

0:27:34.000 --> 0:27:36.840
<v Speaker 1>like five or six soldiers who were captured. Despite Santa

0:27:36.880 --> 0:27:42.360
<v Speaker 1>Anna Um saying don't take any prisoners, they did anyway, Yeah,

0:27:42.400 --> 0:27:45.680
<v Speaker 1>they did, but he was not. Um the account says

0:27:45.720 --> 0:27:49.800
<v Speaker 1>that it was not He wasn't shamed, though he still

0:27:49.840 --> 0:27:54.080
<v Speaker 1>died bravely. They were bayonetted and shot. And the quote

0:27:54.119 --> 0:27:58.800
<v Speaker 1>pain is quote was the Mexican soldier whose diary these

0:27:58.880 --> 0:28:02.960
<v Speaker 1>unfortunates died with complaining without humiliating themselves before their tortures.

0:28:02.960 --> 0:28:05.400
<v Speaker 1>So I think it was like one of those Red

0:28:05.480 --> 0:28:08.640
<v Speaker 1>Dawn scenes where they start singing America the Beautiful. Yeah,

0:28:08.680 --> 0:28:11.040
<v Speaker 1>probably you know, like you're about to shoot me, but

0:28:11.280 --> 0:28:13.480
<v Speaker 1>my head is held high, or like who is it

0:28:13.520 --> 0:28:18.160
<v Speaker 1>we did last week? The the lady, Oh, Mota Hary, Yeah,

0:28:18.160 --> 0:28:21.840
<v Speaker 1>Mota Hary. Yeah. Davy crock and Mana Hary they're virtually indistinguishable,

0:28:21.960 --> 0:28:26.560
<v Speaker 1>that's right. So his reputation remained intact. And uh that

0:28:26.760 --> 0:28:29.239
<v Speaker 1>the Alamo and then Walt disn't got a hold of it,

0:28:29.320 --> 0:28:31.919
<v Speaker 1>and a hundred years later became a sensation. Yeah. I

0:28:31.920 --> 0:28:34.760
<v Speaker 1>mean even even beyond the remaining in tech dying at

0:28:34.800 --> 0:28:40.040
<v Speaker 1>the Alamo, defending the Alumo. It's like mushroom clouded his

0:28:40.400 --> 0:28:43.440
<v Speaker 1>personality and his reputation is a legend. Like it just

0:28:43.480 --> 0:28:46.640
<v Speaker 1>sealed it forever, like Davy Crockett, American hero, King of

0:28:46.680 --> 0:28:50.120
<v Speaker 1>the wild front here. Yeah, Timbertoe No, not a Timber too.

0:28:51.040 --> 0:28:52.320
<v Speaker 1>I actually had to look that up. I was like,

0:28:52.360 --> 0:28:54.640
<v Speaker 1>what does that mean. I was like, oh, I wouldn't

0:28:54.680 --> 0:29:00.480
<v Speaker 1>like got it. He was pretty clever. Oh and that quote,

0:29:00.480 --> 0:29:02.360
<v Speaker 1>by the way, was said while he was drinking with

0:29:02.360 --> 0:29:06.040
<v Speaker 1>his buddies in Memphis at the Union Hotel. And I

0:29:06.080 --> 0:29:08.880
<v Speaker 1>did a little digging, and that is the Union Hotel

0:29:09.160 --> 0:29:13.280
<v Speaker 1>was what is now the grounds of Auto Zone Park

0:29:13.880 --> 0:29:17.040
<v Speaker 1>where the Memphis Redbirds playball. Oh yeah, yeah, I need

0:29:17.080 --> 0:29:19.040
<v Speaker 1>to get back to Memphis. My family has all gone

0:29:19.120 --> 0:29:23.480
<v Speaker 1>from there now, so aside from visiting the graves of

0:29:23.520 --> 0:29:25.640
<v Speaker 1>my grandparents, there's really no other reason to go back.

0:29:25.880 --> 0:29:29.080
<v Speaker 1>The grave of Elvis. Yeah, I've been there. Yeah, we'll

0:29:29.120 --> 0:29:34.760
<v Speaker 1>go again, all right. That the station not gonna fund itself, Yeah,

0:29:34.760 --> 0:29:39.240
<v Speaker 1>that's true. Um, okay, you got anything else, Davy Crockett? Oh,

0:29:39.360 --> 0:29:41.440
<v Speaker 1>you know what, I have one other thing. Something occurred

0:29:41.440 --> 0:29:46.480
<v Speaker 1>to me while we were researching this. Um, if you

0:29:46.560 --> 0:29:49.800
<v Speaker 1>think of Davy Crockett and you're an American, it's just

0:29:49.840 --> 0:29:52.320
<v Speaker 1>all these images come to mind. It's the national hero,

0:29:52.520 --> 0:29:56.200
<v Speaker 1>and there's he's complex and everything. Think about how every

0:29:56.240 --> 0:29:59.640
<v Speaker 1>single country has at least somebody like that, and just

0:29:59.720 --> 0:30:04.280
<v Speaker 1>how totally unaware we are of those people that are

0:30:04.360 --> 0:30:06.480
<v Speaker 1>like that in all those other countries. Yeah, like who

0:30:06.520 --> 0:30:09.800
<v Speaker 1>was Finland's Davy Crockett exactly? Yeah, you know, but it's

0:30:09.840 --> 0:30:12.880
<v Speaker 1>neat to think that there's somebody like that out there

0:30:12.960 --> 0:30:16.360
<v Speaker 1>for at least one for every country on the map.

0:30:16.680 --> 0:30:24.320
<v Speaker 1>Francais that Davy Crockett. I'm sure Napoleon Davy Croquette. Uh yeah.

0:30:24.400 --> 0:30:27.400
<v Speaker 1>And you know what, in listener, man, we should ask

0:30:27.440 --> 0:30:32.480
<v Speaker 1>for your country's version Davy Crockett. Do that. Okay, So

0:30:33.120 --> 0:30:36.280
<v Speaker 1>until then, UM, if you want to learn a little

0:30:36.320 --> 0:30:38.120
<v Speaker 1>more about Davy Crockett, you can me in this article

0:30:38.200 --> 0:30:42.240
<v Speaker 1>that I wrote years and years ago, Um, by searching

0:30:42.320 --> 0:30:45.520
<v Speaker 1>Davy Crockett in the search bar, and that's d A. V. Y.

0:30:45.680 --> 0:30:48.800
<v Speaker 1>The early nineteenth century version of Davy and where else?

0:30:49.000 --> 0:30:51.320
<v Speaker 1>What was that website we also used to get this information?

0:30:51.400 --> 0:30:54.640
<v Speaker 1>Was that? Uh, if you look in the source the

0:30:54.720 --> 0:30:57.840
<v Speaker 1>source list on the Lots More Information page of my article,

0:30:58.040 --> 0:31:00.440
<v Speaker 1>it's in there. There's some good stuff. So I think

0:31:00.440 --> 0:31:04.160
<v Speaker 1>it's like the Texas Online Handbook maybe ye, something like that. Yeah,

0:31:04.440 --> 0:31:06.959
<v Speaker 1>and don't forget to go read that first person account

0:31:06.960 --> 0:31:10.800
<v Speaker 1>of bear hunting with Davy Crockett on George Mason University website.

0:31:11.800 --> 0:31:13.960
<v Speaker 1>Since I said George Mason, I mean it's time for

0:31:14.000 --> 0:31:19.200
<v Speaker 1>listening now. Uh. This is about um e c T

0:31:19.640 --> 0:31:25.200
<v Speaker 1>electro convulsive therapy that we've podcasted on and about civil

0:31:25.280 --> 0:31:30.160
<v Speaker 1>rights of people forced into stuff like this, and it's

0:31:30.200 --> 0:31:33.640
<v Speaker 1>from Jamie. Hey, guys, in your ECT podcast you mentioned

0:31:33.680 --> 0:31:37.120
<v Speaker 1>anti psychiatry with regards to the resistance of e c T.

0:31:37.560 --> 0:31:39.440
<v Speaker 1>Hope that one day you'll do a podcast about the

0:31:39.520 --> 0:31:44.200
<v Speaker 1>Consumer Survivor X patient movement c s X. It's one

0:31:44.200 --> 0:31:46.240
<v Speaker 1>of the remaining civil rights movements in the country and

0:31:46.240 --> 0:31:49.160
<v Speaker 1>around the world. Mind Freedom dot Org is a great

0:31:49.160 --> 0:31:51.520
<v Speaker 1>resource to start with. It was one of the first

0:31:51.520 --> 0:31:55.600
<v Speaker 1>CSX organizations and insistence and still going strong today. Robert

0:31:55.600 --> 0:31:58.479
<v Speaker 1>Whittaker A journalist wrote Mad in America, where he describes

0:31:58.520 --> 0:32:01.760
<v Speaker 1>inventors of torture devices peddling their machines to various mental

0:32:01.760 --> 0:32:05.280
<v Speaker 1>institutions which held the belief that patients can be shocked

0:32:05.360 --> 0:32:09.440
<v Speaker 1>or tortured into sanity. Lobotomies were finally discontinued because storzine

0:32:09.480 --> 0:32:13.400
<v Speaker 1>was introduced as the new lobotomy to a pill that

0:32:14.360 --> 0:32:17.680
<v Speaker 1>metrosol injections and insulin shock were tortuous and highly feared

0:32:17.680 --> 0:32:20.360
<v Speaker 1>by patients who received them. Much of when what went

0:32:20.400 --> 0:32:22.040
<v Speaker 1>on in one flow of the Cuckoo's nest is still

0:32:22.040 --> 0:32:27.560
<v Speaker 1>true for today's modern institutions, including forced east. Nowadays, the

0:32:27.560 --> 0:32:30.160
<v Speaker 1>tortures are more subtle. I was on a drug personally

0:32:30.160 --> 0:32:33.160
<v Speaker 1>called Howdall that to this day I believe would make

0:32:33.160 --> 0:32:37.120
<v Speaker 1>an excellent torture drug. I was also literally blinded by

0:32:37.120 --> 0:32:40.960
<v Speaker 1>another drug called h mellaril, which was forced upon me

0:32:41.000 --> 0:32:44.680
<v Speaker 1>while in a hospital. My eyesight was restored many layers

0:32:45.000 --> 0:32:48.560
<v Speaker 1>many years later, thanks to Emory Eye Center here in Atlanta,

0:32:49.440 --> 0:32:52.040
<v Speaker 1>but I was never warned about the possibile side effects

0:32:52.080 --> 0:32:54.479
<v Speaker 1>of mellaril or given a choice to take it or not.

0:32:55.000 --> 0:32:58.120
<v Speaker 1>Today's modern medications routinely caused diabetes and rapid weight gain,

0:32:58.560 --> 0:33:00.760
<v Speaker 1>as well as dependence in early death. When people try

0:33:00.760 --> 0:33:03.720
<v Speaker 1>to discontinue their use, their face with symptoms far worse

0:33:03.760 --> 0:33:06.840
<v Speaker 1>than symptoms for which they were originally treated. In fact,

0:33:06.960 --> 0:33:09.680
<v Speaker 1>many school shooters were either on one of these drugs

0:33:09.760 --> 0:33:12.680
<v Speaker 1>or drawing from them. When you do the research, I

0:33:12.760 --> 0:33:14.600
<v Speaker 1>was a patient in the mental health system for twenty

0:33:14.600 --> 0:33:18.640
<v Speaker 1>plus years and now I operate an alternative to traditional

0:33:18.680 --> 0:33:22.120
<v Speaker 1>mental health services Indicator Georgia, which is near where I live.

0:33:23.040 --> 0:33:26.000
<v Speaker 1>Recovery is possible when you reclaim your power taken from

0:33:26.000 --> 0:33:29.800
<v Speaker 1>you in psychiatry, and guys, I'm not anti psychiatry, but

0:33:29.840 --> 0:33:32.200
<v Speaker 1>I am no longer blinded or threatened by the tactics

0:33:32.480 --> 0:33:35.040
<v Speaker 1>that they can sometimes use. I believe in civil rights

0:33:35.040 --> 0:33:38.040
<v Speaker 1>for people who have been diagnosed and labeled as mentally ill.

0:33:38.480 --> 0:33:41.440
<v Speaker 1>And please understand that anyone walking into a psychiatrist office

0:33:41.880 --> 0:33:44.960
<v Speaker 1>can effortlessly walk out with the label that will follow

0:33:45.040 --> 0:33:46.720
<v Speaker 1>them for the rest of their lives. Yeah, there's a

0:33:46.760 --> 0:33:50.960
<v Speaker 1>stigma totally. So I hope you will consider UH podcasting

0:33:50.960 --> 0:33:54.040
<v Speaker 1>on this powerful but often oppressed the civil rights movement.

0:33:54.400 --> 0:33:57.040
<v Speaker 1>I love I love the podcast on a lot, Thanks

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<v Speaker 1>a lot Jamie have it is very interesting. I've not

0:34:00.480 --> 0:34:03.440
<v Speaker 1>heard of that before. Yeah, C S C SX movie.

0:34:03.520 --> 0:34:05.960
<v Speaker 1>I will definitely be checking it out to. That is

0:34:06.000 --> 0:34:08.719
<v Speaker 1>a great listener mail where we're told about something we've

0:34:08.760 --> 0:34:11.080
<v Speaker 1>never heard of before in our entire lives but find

0:34:11.120 --> 0:34:15.879
<v Speaker 1>intensely interesting. That's a good one, thanks, Jamie. Um. If

0:34:16.000 --> 0:34:20.480
<v Speaker 1>you oh yeah, I forgot Um. If you have a

0:34:20.600 --> 0:34:26.000
<v Speaker 1>national hero in your country and you're not in the US,

0:34:26.120 --> 0:34:29.239
<v Speaker 1>like myth and legend in truth all wrapped up sort

0:34:29.280 --> 0:34:31.440
<v Speaker 1>of like Davy profit right, UM, we want to know

0:34:31.480 --> 0:34:33.239
<v Speaker 1>who that is and know a little bit about him

0:34:33.280 --> 0:34:36.480
<v Speaker 1>if you're in the US or her. Oh yeah, good one,

0:34:36.560 --> 0:34:40.160
<v Speaker 1>chuck UM. If you're in the US, you can still

0:34:40.200 --> 0:34:42.359
<v Speaker 1>have an opportunity to write and tell us something that

0:34:42.400 --> 0:34:46.720
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