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Speaker 3: again to Dan Patrick and happy holidays. I'm Steve Covino

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Speaker 3: live in Idaho. That's Rich Davis, Danny g and the

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Speaker 5: world of sports, both being legends. The question is who

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Speaker 5: has left more of an impact in the world of sports.

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Speaker 5: We'll get to that. Plus I have a thought about

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Speaker 5: a movie Cavino recommended that I.

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Speaker 2: Watched last night. So we'll tell little movies. Little uh,

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Speaker 2: oh man, I can't wait, no idea what This is

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Speaker 2: a little grundle of the holiday season.

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Speaker 5: But right now it's time for Showtime Mahomes Trivia.

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Speaker 1: The mostly lovable Patrick Mahomes.

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Speaker 2: Truth is, I want everybody to love me, not just

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Speaker 2: the refs.

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Speaker 1: It's time for some NFL trivia. I'm here, I'm here, Yes,

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Speaker 1: we know you're here.

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Speaker 6: All right, Patrick Mahomes here to play Showtime Homes Trivia.

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Speaker 7: All right, FSR security walking our broke Patrick into the

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Speaker 7: main studio.

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Speaker 6: Hey there is Hey, Hey guys, Patrick Mahomes here. What's

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Speaker 6: all the slurprint of Sam Donald? You know you guys

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Speaker 6: are all about me? Now you're all about Donald?

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Speaker 2: I see how you guys are? Oh man?

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Speaker 4: Are you? How was the surgery?

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Speaker 2: I guess I'm all right.

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Speaker 6: I'm actually trying to get all the gifts I gifted

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Speaker 6: all my offensive linemen, Uglo watches and beats and meadow glasses.

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Speaker 6: I want it back. I want it all back because

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Speaker 6: we suck six and ten. We stink, probably gonna lose

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Speaker 6: to the Raiders. My linemen deserve Freezy Freaky's in La

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Speaker 6: Boo boos.

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Speaker 7: No, this is the only time I'm going to tell

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Speaker 7: you this. Patrick, Please please beat the Raiders. Yeah, the

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Speaker 7: Raiders need to be beat up.

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Speaker 5: By the way, I'd be surprised if we did. What

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Speaker 5: a little That would be amazing terrible for you, Danny. Imagine,

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Speaker 5: imagine if the Chiefs somehow give the Raiders that game

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Speaker 5: and it gives the Raiders the inability now to get Mendoza.

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Speaker 7: Like you know, the Chiefs can f you in a

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Speaker 7: different way, now, Dan, don't you dare put that out

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Speaker 7: there in the universe. All right, let's meet the contestants.

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Speaker 7: Twenty seven time winner Rich Davis.

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Speaker 8: Right over there.

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Speaker 7: Let's go in for twenty two time champion Dan Byer.

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Speaker 7: Look who it is, Big Mike, who doesn't run this place?

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Speaker 6: Hey Mike, Hello, everybody, it's Rich from Pond Stars.

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Speaker 7: And ten time winners Spotty boys, all right, looking to

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Speaker 7: winnes seeing our nerd football in the studio lines, Big Mike,

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Speaker 7: I'll use you for this would you love to travel too?

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Speaker 7: Beautiful mar Vista, California, Agora Hills, California, Corpus Christi, Texas,

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Speaker 7: Sioux City, Iowa, or Pleasanton, San Antonio.

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Speaker 4: Uh, that's a no brainer.

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Speaker 9: I gotta go with Marvisa, as I spent quite a

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Speaker 4: In that town.

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Speaker 8: Oh yeah, all right, all right, that's Tyler. What up, Tyler?

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Speaker 10: Hey, how you guys doing today?

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Speaker 4: Tyler? I used to live in Palms bro.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, that's where I first lived, and I moved to

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Speaker 10: mar Vista, Nice Blaria.

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Speaker 11: It is.

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Speaker 4: It's a great place. When do you go? Get again?

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Speaker 7: We'll get a coffee and uh, you know, big Mike

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Speaker 7: set tripping over here. All right, Tyler, what do you

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Speaker 7: do for a living in Sokel?

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Speaker 10: Actually? Yea, I do private driving and I do uber

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Speaker 10: and lift on the side between that.

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Speaker 8: Nice shouts out to all the delivery people.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, you need a right to the airport. Let me know,

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Speaker 10: I get my information.

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Speaker 5: Let me let me ask you this, being that you're

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Speaker 5: a driver, do you want people to talk to you

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Speaker 5: or not? I'm always I'm always trying to decide this

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Speaker 2: Or do they want silence.

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Speaker 8: You know if it's kind of.

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Speaker 10: Funny because sometimes you get on the apps just about

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Speaker 10: to walk in your car and it shows show preferences,

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Speaker 10: and you see something like prefers not to talk, And

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Speaker 10: at first I was like, well, I don't even want

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Speaker 10: to talk to them, so why do they like have

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Speaker 5: But you can put that down there. You can put

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Speaker 5: that down now. By the way, let's let's play this game.

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Speaker 4: All right. Here are the rules.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to talk.

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Speaker 8: That's enough.

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Speaker 2: That's a first. By the way, let's get that in writing. Please.

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Speaker 7: Here are the rules for Showtime at Home's NFL Trivia.

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Speaker 7: The first contestant with two correct answers is the champion.

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Speaker 7: If there's a tie, we have a tie breaker question.

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Speaker 7: Your name is your buzzer, but you do have to

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Speaker 7: wait until all three possible answers are read. If there's

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Speaker 7: two wrong answers in row, we move on to the

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Speaker 7: next question. Are you ready, let's do it. Let's get

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Speaker 7: it on round one.

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Speaker 6: Happy holidays, Patrick Mahomes, I'm here and I wish my

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Speaker 6: defense could serve these up. What team has the most

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Speaker 6: shutouts in one season in NFL history? Is it a

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Speaker 6: the nineteen seventy six Steelers be the two thousand Ravens,

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Speaker 6: or see the twenty thirteen Seahawks.

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Speaker 4: Mike Big, Michael Ravens.

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Speaker 7: No, I had that confidence he had?

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Speaker 2: Tyler, Tyler, what do you got?

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Speaker 6: No, you're both oh answers A seventy six Steelers. They

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Speaker 6: delivered five shutouts that season. Five shutouts.

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Speaker 8: All right, we moved around two. Nobody on the board yet, all.

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Speaker 6: Right, round two, Patrick mahomes here. This game won't be

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Speaker 6: the same without me? Which stadium hosted the first ever

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Speaker 6: Super Bowl?

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Speaker 4: Hey?

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Speaker 2: The Houston Astrodome, B Miami's Orange Bowl?

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Speaker 6: Or C the Los Angeles Memorial Calseum.

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Speaker 8: Rich really rich?

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Speaker 4: Got it? You know what?

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Speaker 7: No, Rich, answer the question. I'm Los Angeles. It was

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Speaker 7: the Memorial Coliseum. Rich on the board was giving.

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Speaker 5: You, giving you a little breadth there? Come on, dude,

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Speaker 5: trying to be Jennis in the hotties.

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Speaker 8: Where are you driving right now? By the way, where

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Speaker 8: are you driving through?

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Speaker 10: Actually I'm driving out in the valley right now. I'm

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Speaker 10: on the one to one three way heading out towards thousand.

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Speaker 4: Is good?

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Speaker 10: I mean right A really slow these days in this economy.

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Speaker 10: I feel like I gotta drive further further away to

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Speaker 10: get something.

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Speaker 2: All right, here we go, right, Hey, By the way,

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Speaker 2: I'm trying to be generous.

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Speaker 6: Turn to holidays too, Hey, Rich, since you got that right,

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Speaker 6: I want to regift you a pair of fuzzy socks

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Speaker 6: that Travis Kelsey game.

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Speaker 2: Where is these things? You could have them?

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Speaker 8: I love buddy, This one, Rich is on the board

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Speaker 8: as we moved around three.

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Speaker 6: All right, round three, Happy holidays. What was I once

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Speaker 6: quoted saying about limits? He limits, limit, limits, one of

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Speaker 6: the limits. One of those funny words. Limits are just

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Speaker 6: an illusion. B I try to limit the amount to

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Speaker 6: twenty thousand dollars for each ref's Christmas gift. Or the

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Speaker 6: moment you limit yourself is the moment your life stays basic.

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Speaker 4: Mike Cool, You gotta go with b.

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Speaker 11: Rep.

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Speaker 8: Tyler for the steal.

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Speaker 6: No, limits are just an illusion, all right?

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Speaker 4: So still Rich? The only one I swear Patrick had

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Speaker 4: had to be. I thought you were gifted to the rep.

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Speaker 2: No, all right, we move on. I gave them my owners.

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Speaker 2: I love how that was followed up with an eighties

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Speaker 7: When Tyler listened closely, you got a rally.

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Speaker 4: Here we go to round four.

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Speaker 6: Please all right round four? Patrick mahomes here happy? Uh,

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Speaker 6: taint of the holidays? Who was the first NFL team

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Speaker 6: to put a logo on their helmets?

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Speaker 8: Oh?

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Speaker 6: Is it a the Chicago Bears, b the Los Angeles Rams,

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Speaker 6: or c the Philadelphia Eagles.

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Speaker 2: That's Rich.

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Speaker 4: Rich for the win.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna go Rams.

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Speaker 7: You are the winner today, Sorry, dude.

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Speaker 2: The yellow Rams horns in nineteen forty six.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, they hand painted these yellow Ram horns in forty six.

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Speaker 2: Crazy. I thank you, man, I appreciate you listening time. Man,

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Speaker 2: you know what it is. I guess you think back.

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Speaker 5: I feel like I feel like some of the old

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Speaker 5: footage are like a lot of these teams had no logos.

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Speaker 2: But can you picture a Rams game without a logo?

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Speaker 2: I like Bears.

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Speaker 5: I feel like they was the most Yeah, Bears had

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Speaker 5: the logo back in the day. All right, thanks buddy,

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Speaker 5: appreciate you guys. Hey, thanks guys six and ten. I'm

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Speaker 6: And let your raiders Danny g next week in a Hey,

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Speaker 6: thanks guys, have you holidays.

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Speaker 5: Good to see you, Patrick, Thank you, Patrick. I had

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Speaker 5: actually had a question for Coveno. Now that we've got

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Speaker 5: past show time, a home shrimming. Hold on, I'm saying

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Speaker 5: by Patrick Patrick. Yeah, so I I watched the movie

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Speaker 5: you recommended, and I commended a few.

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Speaker 2: You recommended something.

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Speaker 4: That I don't know.

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Speaker 5: I watched it and it's called The Age of Disclosure.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, well it was recommended to me, So I

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Speaker 3: told you about it.

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Speaker 2: I didn't necessarily say you gotta watch.

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Speaker 4: You can't. You could.

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Speaker 2: You could only buy it on Prime.

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Speaker 5: My buddies like and and my buddy's like, don't worry,

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Speaker 5: I'll find it.

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Speaker 2: So he found it.

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Speaker 5: So if you don't feel like paying the twenty bucks,

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Speaker 5: I'm sure you have your little loopholes. But it's uh,

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Speaker 5: it's about UAPs, essentially UFOs, And they're saying this is

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Speaker 5: the most legitimate UFO documentary we're talking about, Like, this

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Speaker 5: isn't like crazy dudes of big hair on the History

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Speaker 5: Channel talking about aliens.

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Speaker 2: They like, you got.

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Speaker 5: Legitimate politicians and people that worked for you know, decades

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Speaker 5: and the FBI and CIA, And what separates.

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Speaker 3: This one ritch is the fact that there's I'm trying

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Speaker 3: to get the stat here, thirty four government insiders who

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Speaker 2: Yeah, conserve the.

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Speaker 5: This isn't a listen and I'm not some big alien

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Speaker 8: There are UAPs.

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Speaker 3: The question is is it from another planet, another dimension

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Speaker 2: We don't know. That's the ridiculous part is they're saying.

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Speaker 3: But did you put in perspective, rich, are our best

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Speaker 3: They're this aircraft, those tic TACs that they're seeing is

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Speaker 5: So put that in perspective. And and when and when

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Speaker 2: I know you're a skeptic, is it orange?

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Speaker 2: Those are the best. Orange ones are the beste Yeah, Danny,

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Speaker 3: Guys, you're saying you bought into it after watch, I

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Speaker 5: I think I just think there's nothing like, there's no like, Hey,

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Speaker 2: You realize we're talking to like millions of people right now. Right,

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Speaker 2: it's a it's a very popular film right now.

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Speaker 5: It's an award winning it's an award winning documentary that's

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Speaker 9: I do want to interjecte here. Let's remember that the

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Speaker 9: That just means they are unidentified. Mike, But but where

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Speaker 3: We get the technology to h to create these.

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Speaker 9: Just because you don't have an answer doesn't mean it's aliens, right, He's.

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Speaker 4: Not an alien.

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Speaker 3: They say it could possibly be I'm travelers to so

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Speaker 2: Times better, Yeah, that's is it aliens or time travelers?

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Speaker 4: Make up? Your mind? Got to be one of the two, Right.

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Speaker 11: What is it?

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Speaker 2: You know what it is?

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Speaker 4: You know what is it?

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Speaker 2: Identified? But then what is it?

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Speaker 4: Then?

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Speaker 5: If something is in the air that's as smart at

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Speaker 5: And they're saying that there's things that are going forty

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Speaker 2: All science and physics that we know. How do you

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Speaker 2: What do you think it is?

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Speaker 4: Big?

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Speaker 2: But that exists? Is it okay? Is it okay to

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Speaker 4: Why do you have to conjecture?

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Speaker 2: Don't you want it?

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Speaker 4: It's aliens or time travels.

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Speaker 2: I want to know, but I'm okay with not knowing.

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Speaker 8: Let me check my iPhone, which is.

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Speaker 2: The fact that you're from.

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Speaker 3: There's there's no debating anymore that it's real and that

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Speaker 3: We don't know, and Mike's right about that. But it

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Speaker 5: The smart When the smartest people on planet Earth are like, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I know it's unidentified, but what is? And if you

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Speaker 2: What?

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Speaker 13: You're always like laid back man like? You never get

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Speaker 2: BEFERRONI cowboy? H you got all the kids in town?

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Speaker 2: Are you guys all love it?

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Speaker 8: What's new?

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Speaker 14: I want to be probably probably start as soon as

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Speaker 8: Already started continuing into today.

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Speaker 2: He recruited me, Cal party did.

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Speaker 8: You mass?

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Speaker 14: That was when he had us can being Yeah, they

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Speaker 14: I would have had to become a real basketball player

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Speaker 13: So that's wild too, because how are you like six

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Speaker 13: It's just funny though that, like you're like this this, yeah,

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Speaker 14: I was like a rockman. I was a work guy.

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Speaker 14: I was gonna run, run, run, run, use my quicks

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Speaker 14: But it is what it is. It's still all worked

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Speaker 15: I mean, the good news is you could probably go

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Speaker 15: based on what we've seen. So we talked about this

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Speaker 5: Now he has now gone back and he's playing with Baylor,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's the hook. The whole thing's wild.

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Speaker 5: You got European players that are coming in that are

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Speaker 5: all It's just none of it makes any sense. And

448
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Speaker 5: John Calipari decided, you know what, somebody's got to speak up.

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Speaker 4: Let me be the guy.

450
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Speaker 16: Well, look, I don't blame coaches.

451
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Speaker 11: You know, I've got friends that are playing with twenty

452
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Speaker 11: seven year olds and they feel bad. I said, don't

453
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Speaker 11: feel bad. We don't have any rules. Why should you

454
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Speaker 11: feel bad? But let me give you this real simple.

455
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Speaker 11: The rules bes the rules. So if you put your

456
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Speaker 11: name in the draft, I don't care if you're from

457
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Speaker 11: Russia and you stay in the draft, you can't play

458
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Speaker 11: college basketball.

459
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Speaker 16: Well that's only for American kids.

460
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Speaker 2: What if your.

461
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Speaker 11: Name is in that draft and you got drafted, you

462
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Speaker 11: can't play cup because that's our rule.

463
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Speaker 16: Yeah, but that's only for American kids.

464
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Speaker 11: Okay, Okay, Now here's the next lawsuit. Well, we don't

465
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Speaker 11: have a say over European players. You do if they're

466
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Speaker 11: playing in college basketball. So that means you don't have

467
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Speaker 11: a say over high school kids. So whatever a high

468
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Speaker 11: school kid does before he comes here, don't you do

469
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Speaker 11: one thing because there's a suit, Because what you're saying is,

470
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Speaker 11: if he's in Europe, we don't have the same rules.

471
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Speaker 11: Does anybody care what this is doing for seventeen and

472
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Speaker 11: eighteen year old American kids? Do you know what this

473
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Speaker 11: opportunity has done for them? And their families. There aren't

474
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Speaker 11: going to be any high school kids who other than

475
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Speaker 11: dumb people like me, are going to recruit high school kids.

476
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Speaker 11: I get so much satisfaction out of coaching young kids

477
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Speaker 11: and seeing them grow and make it and their family

478
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Speaker 11: life changes that I'm going to keep doing it. But

479
00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:52,840
Speaker 11: why would anybody else If you can get NBA players,

480
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Speaker 11: G League players, guys that are twenty eight years old,

481
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Speaker 11: guys from Europe?

482
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Speaker 16: Do we really know their transcript? Do we have somebody

483
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Speaker 16: over there? Do we really know their birth certificate?

484
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Speaker 15: So that was John Calipari letting it be known his

485
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Speaker 15: feelings on the situation involving guys returning to college basketball

486
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Speaker 15: late into their twenties with eligibility still remaining in the

487
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Speaker 15: NBA draft. Charlie Baker, the NCAA president, He responded with

488
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Speaker 15: a statement on Tuesday that said, quote, the NCAA is

489
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Speaker 15: not and will not grant eligibility to any perspective or

490
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Speaker 15: returning student athletes who have signed an NBA contract, including

491
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Speaker 15: a two way contract. Calipari was on ESPN last night

492
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Speaker 15: and said, well, they're moving the goalpost now because now

493
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Speaker 15: it's if you haven't signed a contract, you can't come back,

494
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Speaker 15: but when before it was.

495
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Speaker 2: If you were in the draft and you get drafted,

496
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Speaker 2: that's it.

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Speaker 13: And they're saying that because of their legal expertise that

498
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Speaker 13: someone's provided Charlie Baker, that they feel like they can

499
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Speaker 13: say that and not get sued because every time the

500
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Speaker 13: NCAA has gone, you know, up against the judicial system,

501
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Speaker 13: they've lost. This is an inflection point for college sports,

502
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Speaker 13: and it's one of the reasons like why on our

503
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Speaker 13: show on two Pros, I've continually talked about this with

504
00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:18,040
Speaker 13: you guys in regards to everything kind of seems up

505
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Speaker 13: in the air, and basketball has been further ahead because

506
00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:24,000
Speaker 13: there's been this whole you know, at first you could

507
00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:25,920
Speaker 13: just leave right from high school and go to play

508
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Speaker 13: professional basketball.

509
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Speaker 8: And then it came back in with the one undone

510
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Speaker 8: and John.

511
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Speaker 13: Calipari was one of the first to really embrace that

512
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Speaker 13: and embody that. But even allowing that to take place

513
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Speaker 13: was a step closer to completely disregarding the educational component

514
00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:50,520
Speaker 13: and the developmental component. And there's elements of that that

515
00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:53,359
Speaker 13: are still at play in college football right now, and

516
00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:57,080
Speaker 13: that's brought forth by the transfer portal because that's now

517
00:24:57,119 --> 00:25:02,200
Speaker 13: become big business. So I say it's an inflection point

518
00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:06,840
Speaker 13: for college sports in general right now because we've almost

519
00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:10,840
Speaker 13: looked at trying to like, in a way, privatize this

520
00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:14,919
Speaker 13: whole experience for young people and what this experience means.

521
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Speaker 13: It used to mean development, It used to mean getting

522
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Speaker 13: an education. It used to mean, you know, graduating with

523
00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:25,879
Speaker 13: a degree, a platform, a network, and a foundation, where

524
00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:29,000
Speaker 13: after you were rewarded with that, you'd move on into

525
00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:31,520
Speaker 13: the private sect or you'd potentially be lucky enough to

526
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Speaker 13: be one of the one to two to three percent,

527
00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:37,119
Speaker 13: depending on the sport, to play professionally. But at some

528
00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:41,879
Speaker 13: point that ends. And now we've looked at it's completely different.

529
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Speaker 13: We're like, well, wait a second, these players should be compensated,

530
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Speaker 13: and yet we haven't had anyone come up with a

531
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Speaker 13: structure that allows both things to work where they can

532
00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:55,800
Speaker 13: be compensated. Yet at the same time, we can still

533
00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:59,720
Speaker 13: keep the educational component there for them. So there's something

534
00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:03,400
Speaker 13: for these young men and women when they get done

535
00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:06,720
Speaker 13: with their playing careers to fall back on to then

536
00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:08,760
Speaker 13: go search for whatever that next passion is.

537
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Speaker 8: That's the tough part about this whole.

538
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Speaker 13: Conversation is as much as we want to make light

539
00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:17,000
Speaker 13: of it, and joke about it. There is a lot

540
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Speaker 13: of people who are impacted at the high school level

541
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Speaker 13: moving into college that are having opportunities taken away from

542
00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:26,280
Speaker 13: people who already had that opportunity and they weren't good enough.

543
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Speaker 13: And I'll even go as far as saying this the

544
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Speaker 13: NCAA whimping out with how many eligibility waivers they've granted

545
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Speaker 13: for a lot of players who are now playing, you know.

546
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Speaker 8: Six seven years of college football.

547
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Speaker 13: It's the same thing that same players taking up a

548
00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:46,520
Speaker 13: high school players roster spot and his opportunity to crack

549
00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:49,080
Speaker 13: into you know, onto the field and play and make

550
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Speaker 13: his impact.

551
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Speaker 8: But it's all because it's become big business.

552
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Speaker 4: Now.

553
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Speaker 8: I hate it where it's at.

554
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Speaker 13: I understand why it's where it is, and I'm not

555
00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:02,320
Speaker 13: like arguing for you know, student athletes not to be compensated,

556
00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:06,640
Speaker 13: but there does need to be a reckoning where someone

557
00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:09,240
Speaker 13: comes and saves the day. And I'm sorry, I'm just

558
00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:12,040
Speaker 13: not a believer that the federal government is going to

559
00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:14,679
Speaker 13: do it. Even though it feels like every time Charlie

560
00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:18,800
Speaker 13: Baker speaks, he's begging Congress to step in and give

561
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Speaker 13: them some sort of anti trust protection.

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Speaker 14: I think it's a it's a tremendously large conversation that

563
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Speaker 14: Kyler Perry opened because there are a lot of unknowns

564
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Speaker 14: there are, and there are a lot of different different

565
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Speaker 14: ways of doing things and different ways of seeing things.

566
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Speaker 14: And that's by sport. I mean, it's it's touched into

567
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Speaker 14: now the gender conversation.

568
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Speaker 8: You don't even you know, need.

569
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Speaker 14: To go down that road right now, But I mean

570
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Speaker 14: that is a conversation that's out there as well. You know,

571
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Speaker 14: people's ability to compete and where they're competing at. You

572
00:27:57,000 --> 00:28:00,040
Speaker 14: know that those lines have been now been crossed and

573
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:04,199
Speaker 14: have been blurred, and those conversations are ensuing. But you know,

574
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Speaker 14: by sport, you're talking about people that are you know

575
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Speaker 14: when they say to euros you know it costs more.

576
00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:15,399
Speaker 14: It costs more to bring European players here to play.

577
00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:19,639
Speaker 14: For one, it costs more, and a lot of times

578
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Speaker 14: they go straight from from high school to pro There

579
00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:27,080
Speaker 14: is no light, there is no system set up the

580
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Speaker 14: way it's set up.

581
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Speaker 4: Here in America.

582
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Speaker 14: And so if you're if you are living and dying

583
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Speaker 14: by going after that that what you would call experience

584
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Speaker 14: and trying to bring that here to be able to

585
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Speaker 14: compete and win in the certain sports that exists.

586
00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:43,960
Speaker 8: Yeah, you're you're right.

587
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Speaker 14: It is going to hurt what takes place with high

588
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:51,560
Speaker 14: school kids and developmental situations because you're not looking to

589
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Speaker 14: develop kids. It's so interesting, we'll say, We'll hear coaches

590
00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:58,960
Speaker 14: say it's all about the development, it's all about the development.

591
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Speaker 14: But you you go into the practices, whether it's football,

592
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:05,640
Speaker 14: whether it's basketball, baseball, hockey, whatever you choose the sport.

593
00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:08,080
Speaker 14: A lot of times when you go to these colleges,

594
00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:15,960
Speaker 14: they are not doing focused development periods like they used to.

595
00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:19,800
Speaker 14: They're not They get straight into it, they go right

596
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Speaker 14: to it. No real development. And for what it's worth,

597
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:28,440
Speaker 14: the one thing that you mentioned Q that that really

598
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Speaker 14: is kind of becoming a scarcity is the educational component

599
00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:37,560
Speaker 14: of it. You don't hear people speak on education. It's

600
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Speaker 14: almost like the NIL phase of where we are in

601
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:47,080
Speaker 14: college athletics has almost muted the conversation of how important

602
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:51,840
Speaker 14: education is in this scenario because most of the vast

603
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:56,560
Speaker 14: majority of these people will have to find a job

604
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Speaker 14: post college career, the vast, vast, vast.

605
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Speaker 8: Majority of them.

606
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Speaker 14: And so now what are we doing. We're we're not

607
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Speaker 14: only not preparing them to be able to compete, because

608
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Speaker 14: we want them to be ready made to compete. Come

609
00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:15,240
Speaker 14: in ready made. If you're not ready to go, then

610
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Speaker 14: I'm going.

611
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Speaker 8: With who is.

612
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Speaker 14: But now you're also talking about those the expectations have

613
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Speaker 14: really really dowed in on what your obligations and your

614
00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:33,280
Speaker 14: duties are to your team, to your team, and it

615
00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:37,640
Speaker 14: only becomes an issue with your grades when your grades

616
00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:42,080
Speaker 14: are an issue. Right, It's not, oh, you didn't go

617
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Speaker 14: to class, okay, like you're going to get in trouble

618
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Speaker 14: for that. They have rules to govern like, you know,

619
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Speaker 14: going to class and getting grades, but it's really not

620
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Speaker 14: going to be a focal point until you've done something

621
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Speaker 14: that gets you in trouble. You get bad grades, you're

622
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Speaker 14: not going to class, whatever it may be. But it's

623
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Speaker 14: not a main focal point of what's taking place. So

624
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Speaker 14: I look at it like there's such it's such a

625
00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:11,520
Speaker 14: large conversation because the way we look at things. Yet

626
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Speaker 14: you go and you enter your name into the draft,

627
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Speaker 14: you can't come back. That's how I always thought it was,

628
00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:17,880
Speaker 14: and I thought that is what it was.

629
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Speaker 8: I think it was when you signed with an agent.

630
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Speaker 14: But yeah, when you when you signed with I thought

631
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Speaker 14: it was when you declare it for the draft, I

632
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:24,240
Speaker 14: don't know.

633
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Speaker 8: And if you got drafted whatever it is well for

634
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Speaker 8: for basketball excuse me?

635
00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:28,440
Speaker 4: Right?

636
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Speaker 14: Okay, So so again across sports, if you think about it,

637
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:36,800
Speaker 14: you can get drafted in hockey and still they go play.

638
00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:39,800
Speaker 14: You can get drafted in baseball and still go play.

639
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:43,800
Speaker 14: You can be a pro in volleyball and still go play, you.

640
00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:44,280
Speaker 4: Know what I mean.

641
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Speaker 14: So it's like so many different different, uh you know,

642
00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:53,080
Speaker 14: ways of how things are done by sport. It's this

643
00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:55,840
Speaker 14: is going to be a very very difficult conversation to

644
00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:57,880
Speaker 14: like come up with solutions.

645
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Speaker 13: For let me play Devil's advocate to you joinah in

646
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:03,120
Speaker 13: this situation, because wouldn't you look at this and just say, well,

647
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:06,000
Speaker 13: isn't that isn't this how it's supposed to be done? Like,

648
00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:08,480
Speaker 13: don't you go to college if you're a student to

649
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:09,800
Speaker 13: then figure out what you want to do? How are

650
00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:12,120
Speaker 13: you gonna make money when you get out? And if

651
00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:14,479
Speaker 13: student athletes have already been able to do that at

652
00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:17,680
Speaker 13: the college level, then yeah, I think we understand the

653
00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:20,160
Speaker 13: long term impact or the long term risks that are

654
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:22,840
Speaker 13: involved if you don't get your degree. But if you're

655
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Speaker 13: making money while you're doing that, Like, isn't that the

656
00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:26,800
Speaker 13: entire goal?

657
00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:27,920
Speaker 4: Yeah?

658
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Speaker 15: And I look at it, and I've said this to

659
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Speaker 15: you guys before, it doesn't feel like this is college

660
00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:39,440
Speaker 15: sports anymore. It's this in between gray area between college

661
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Speaker 15: and professional to where they're selling you the illusion of well,

662
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:46,480
Speaker 15: it's college and it's a college experience and it's this

663
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Speaker 15: and it's that.

664
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Speaker 2: But there's money. There's a lot of money.

665
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Speaker 15: There's influence, there's agents, there's like all of these things

666
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Speaker 15: that are that are now being factored into it. That's

667
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Speaker 15: professional like, that's that's pro sports. Like that's what you

668
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Speaker 15: deal with at the pro level.

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Speaker 5: And and I don't begrudge any of them because yes,

670
00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:08,440
Speaker 5: like that is the goal. You go to college to

671
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:11,040
Speaker 5: find out what's my next step? What do I want

672
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:14,320
Speaker 5: to do in life? And they've figured this out and

673
00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:17,520
Speaker 5: they're just like John Caliparty said it in the clip.

674
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Speaker 5: He said, look, I got friends that are you know,

675
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Speaker 5: kind of feel bad. I mean, I would you know

676
00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:26,040
Speaker 5: question that how bad to actually feel? Yeah, they've got

677
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Speaker 5: twenty seven year olds on there on the team. But

678
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Speaker 5: John Calparti's like, well, look, don't feel bad. We don't

679
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Speaker 5: have any rules there's nothing to govern all this, and

680
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Speaker 5: so there is.

681
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Speaker 2: Also that John's the moral compass well, and.

682
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Speaker 15: That's the other thing too, Like, you know, he made

683
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Speaker 15: it a point, you know, to let everybody know, hey, listen,

684
00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:44,160
Speaker 15: I recruit this way.

685
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Speaker 2: He's self plugged. And he definitely saylessly plugged. He was.

686
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Speaker 5: He was one of the first guys that went one

687
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Speaker 5: and done all the way through. I mean, Brady knows

688
00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:54,960
Speaker 5: his time in Kentucky, John Caliparty's time there.

689
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Speaker 2: So he's like, he's.

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Speaker 13: Look, he's one of the he's a Hall of Fame recruiter.

691
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 13: Now what he's done with some of those teams a

692
00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:07,360
Speaker 13: little disappointing as far as the development. But again, you

693
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Speaker 13: when you only have one year to make it work

694
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Speaker 13: to your point, LeVar, it's tough it like that. And

695
00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:14,640
Speaker 13: I think that's one of the issues too with even

696
00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:17,000
Speaker 13: looking at like college football, where you've got to be

697
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:19,840
Speaker 13: out of high school for three years before you're draft eligible.

698
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Speaker 13: But nowadays coaches instead of looking at a guy that

699
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:27,560
Speaker 13: gets there in high school and maybe he has to

700
00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:29,279
Speaker 13: put on twenty thirty pounds and maybe you have to

701
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Speaker 13: learn how to play the position or learn their scheme,

702
00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:34,480
Speaker 13: and then and then adapt to you know, the challenges

703
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:37,840
Speaker 13: of being like a maturing adult with your time management,

704
00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:39,400
Speaker 13: being away from home, all that stuff.

705
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Speaker 4: You know.

706
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Speaker 13: Now they just go, well, that guy's not ready. We're

707
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:45,040
Speaker 13: gonna find something that transfer portal that's right, and they

708
00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:46,960
Speaker 13: bring in a guy who they've seen on film can

709
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:50,320
Speaker 13: do the things that they're looking for. And again that's NFL,

710
00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:53,120
Speaker 13: that is free agency. That is exactly what's happening. And

711
00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:56,560
Speaker 13: it's important too because you know, not it's not happening

712
00:34:56,600 --> 00:35:00,400
Speaker 13: in college quite as much because there's so much money

713
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:02,520
Speaker 13: with some of his head coaching positions, so the buyouts

714
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:05,319
Speaker 13: are too big. But you know, as far as being

715
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:08,960
Speaker 13: a one and done coach, but there's elements of I

716
00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:12,200
Speaker 13: think for players and families and the frustration of not

717
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:15,400
Speaker 13: getting the development they're hoping for, at least at some places.

718
00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:18,520
Speaker 13: Like I don't want to speak for everyone because everyone's

719
00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:20,839
Speaker 13: you know, there's different schools that I think do it right,

720
00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:24,960
Speaker 13: and I think there's you know, unique circumstances that are

721
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:28,440
Speaker 13: involved in some of this always, but for football, for sure,

722
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Speaker 13: because it's such a developmental sport. You know, there's guys

723
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Speaker 13: who their bodies changed dramatically and for basketball. It's a

724
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Speaker 13: little bit different because they've always been on the fast track.

725
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Speaker 13: They identify kids in junior high as you talked about

726
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Speaker 13: when you're on that AAU circuit and you're one of

727
00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:44,920
Speaker 13: those dudes like Cooper Flag.

728
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Speaker 8: People knew about Cooper Flag for forever ago.

729
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Speaker 4: Now have you?

730
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Speaker 14: That's everybody And and that's a great point. And I

731
00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:54,400
Speaker 14: know we're up on it, but don't you think it

732
00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:57,400
Speaker 14: now has to start earlier, Like we have to like

733
00:35:57,520 --> 00:36:01,359
Speaker 14: the way we approach athletic has to be looked at

734
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:04,960
Speaker 14: differently now. And it's interesting because it's something that I'm

735
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Speaker 14: working on. I'm actually going to be teaching at Penn

736
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Speaker 14: State this upcoming semester.

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Speaker 8: You have to learn teach Arrington.

738
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Speaker 2: Yeah, profess, no way, you're not going to be You're.

739
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Speaker 8: Being Professor Arrington.

740
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Speaker 14: And part of writing the curriculum too, and you got

741
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Speaker 14: to move there and what are you doing?

742
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Speaker 4: Yeah?

743
00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:27,880
Speaker 14: I know it has to it has to be a

744
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:33,880
Speaker 14: coming of uh of terms that extra curricular needs to

745
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:38,359
Speaker 14: be thrown out for sports. We've been brainwashed to look

746
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:43,200
Speaker 14: at sports as extra curricular. But there's so many opportunities

747
00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:48,200
Speaker 14: that exist in sports, from agents to money managers to

748
00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:54,600
Speaker 14: legal representation, to the athlete themselves, to marketing and branding

749
00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:59,919
Speaker 14: and advertising. There's so many opportunities that exist in the CAB.

750
00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:09,719
Speaker 14: We have to stop segregating, separating athletics from academics. And

751
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:11,719
Speaker 14: I think that that's the biggest thing. We have been

752
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:15,960
Speaker 14: brainwashed from day one to think that everything else is

753
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:16,640
Speaker 14: more important.

754
00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:18,239
Speaker 8: Go to school, what do you do?

755
00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:22,480
Speaker 14: You take your classes, and then when you're done with school,

756
00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:27,920
Speaker 14: then you go do the extracurricular things like playing a sport,

757
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:31,560
Speaker 14: the sport that you're playing for. You have to there

758
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:37,359
Speaker 14: has to be a understanding that the training, the development,

759
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:43,239
Speaker 14: the preparation of how how you're being educated at the

760
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:46,160
Speaker 14: younger levels has to become I think it has to

761
00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:48,880
Speaker 14: become more of a focal point. And I know we

762
00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:51,960
Speaker 14: see these different schools that are like an IMG. You know,

763
00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:54,960
Speaker 14: you see it at these different places that have the

764
00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:57,719
Speaker 14: money and the resources to do it. But there has

765
00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:01,160
Speaker 14: to be a different approach to how we view athletics

766
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:05,040
Speaker 14: moving forward as this NIL eric continues to grow, because

767
00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:09,280
Speaker 14: it's impacting the high school level, it's impacting it's.

768
00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:12,319
Speaker 2: Impacting middle school. Like youth athletics is.

769
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:16,040
Speaker 14: Being impacted by the NIL and so to me, there's

770
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Speaker 14: a preparation that isn't taking place, and to be educated

771
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:23,280
Speaker 14: as kids, to be educated as.

772
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Speaker 2: Parents, as adults. They don't know.

773
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:27,040
Speaker 5: When you guys were in high school, do you remember

774
00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:28,240
Speaker 5: taking a finance class.

775
00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:31,399
Speaker 14: Yes, I learned how to write checks, I learned how

776
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:32,600
Speaker 14: to balance my check work.

777
00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:33,879
Speaker 8: I learn how to do all those things.

778
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:36,920
Speaker 2: But it was it was instanding. Yeah, the simple stuff.

779
00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:37,400
Speaker 4: Correct.

780
00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:40,799
Speaker 15: There should be something to Hey, you're gonna have a

781
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:43,720
Speaker 15: lot of money coming your way at a really young age.

782
00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:44,960
Speaker 2: Let us teach you.

783
00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:47,719
Speaker 5: It could be now, it could be now, Like make

784
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:50,200
Speaker 5: that part of the requirement if you want, You've got

785
00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:51,360
Speaker 5: to learn how this works.

786
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:53,239
Speaker 15: So at least you've given them the tools. If they

787
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:55,200
Speaker 15: don't use it, that's fine, but at least you've given

788
00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:56,319
Speaker 15: them the opportunity to learn.

789
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Speaker 8: And and then I think that's part of some of

790
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Speaker 8: the curriculum.

791
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Speaker 13: Now, that's that's inherent every NIL program and every school

792
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Speaker 13: and the college level, you know, as far as high school,

793
00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:06,560
Speaker 13: it's kind of it's it's tough to do that because

794
00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:09,200
Speaker 13: you're really really talking about like the one the point

795
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:12,480
Speaker 13: one percent. It's such a small population that falls in

796
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Speaker 13: this category.

797
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Speaker 8: I mean even across.

798
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Speaker 4: That will go pro.

799
00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:16,880
Speaker 2: That will go pro, sure.

800
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:20,080
Speaker 14: But but the idea of understanding the business of sport,

801
00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:23,600
Speaker 14: that's everybody. That's that's all, and they should have the

802
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:27,120
Speaker 14: opportunity to be educated that way. Somebody that that played

803
00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:29,680
Speaker 14: with you on the football team could have been a

804
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:32,719
Speaker 14: part of your business unit moving forward through school.

805
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:34,520
Speaker 8: You know, they could have been the person.

806
00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:38,600
Speaker 14: That was making sure that your your branding was was correct.

807
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:41,400
Speaker 14: Like what is Brady Brady's brand? We're going to make

808
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:44,480
Speaker 14: sure that brand is built and pronounced. What what is

809
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:48,200
Speaker 14: he doing financially? Like is he able to generate modeling,

810
00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:49,279
Speaker 14: gigs and stuff like that?

811
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Speaker 2: He's got the me wagon, come on whatever?

812
00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:54,040
Speaker 14: Who But think about it, his best friends are his

813
00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:56,440
Speaker 14: best friends and they're still buddies from high school.

814
00:39:56,840 --> 00:40:00,080
Speaker 8: The role doing anything to help this process.

815
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:02,520
Speaker 2: There's a role for everybody, is what I'm saying.

816
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Speaker 14: And if that role is carrying the bags, and it

817
00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:08,280
Speaker 14: might be carrying the bags and meat waggon, you're a backer.

818
00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:12,160
Speaker 14: We're people too, bro, I'm with you on that. Don't

819
00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:14,399
Speaker 14: let them hold you down, man, just be who you are.

820
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:18,960
Speaker 14: But I'm just saying there is the idea that the

821
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Speaker 14: educating of what sport represents. It should not be looked

822
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Speaker 14: at as extracurricular. You know, we don't look at you

823
00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:31,279
Speaker 14: preparing to be a scientist as being extracurricular. We don't

824
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:34,120
Speaker 14: look at you being an architect or a lawyer as

825
00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:39,839
Speaker 14: being extracurricular. So let's look at something that is a

826
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Speaker 14: tremendous fabric of what our culture and our society is,

827
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:47,360
Speaker 14: which is sports, and make it more of a focal

828
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Speaker 14: point so that we can actually have prepared parents and

829
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Speaker 14: student athletes that are more enlightened and understanding what the

830
00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:59,759
Speaker 14: landscape presents. People don't even know what NIL is. Still

831
00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:02,799
Speaker 14: too this day, ask some people about what NIL is,

832
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:04,520
Speaker 14: they wouldn't be able to tell you what it is.

833
00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:08,960
Speaker 14: So educating them at an earlier age, getting parents on

834
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:12,360
Speaker 14: the same page at an earlier age for both those

835
00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:15,919
Speaker 14: who will continue on to be pros and those who

836
00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:19,000
Speaker 14: will continue on to be students. I might have been

837
00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:22,320
Speaker 14: a really really good football player and a basketball player

838
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:24,120
Speaker 14: at the high school level. I'm not going to make

839
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:26,279
Speaker 14: it at the college level, but i still want to

840
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:29,359
Speaker 14: be a part of that sport. You're now giving them

841
00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:33,480
Speaker 14: opportunities as well. You're opening up the gates to having

842
00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:37,719
Speaker 14: people be more empowered with the changing landscape of what

843
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:40,919
Speaker 14: sports represents. Now, that's to me, I feel like that's

844
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:44,799
Speaker 14: what's grossly missing in America because they don't play that.

845
00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:47,759
Speaker 14: In Europe, they don't play that. If you are good,

846
00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:50,080
Speaker 14: they come get you and you're out of there. You're

847
00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:53,520
Speaker 14: already it's already what it is. But here we don't

848
00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:56,719
Speaker 14: do that. In fact, we frown on it. If we

849
00:41:56,840 --> 00:42:03,879
Speaker 14: give if we give benefits and favoritism to elites in athletics,

850
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:07,799
Speaker 14: it's frowned upon, and people try to find rules to

851
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:10,120
Speaker 14: govern it and keep them from doing it. I've seen

852
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:13,920
Speaker 14: more than enough kids get, you know, suspended for seasons

853
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:16,080
Speaker 14: because they wanted to go play out of school where

854
00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:19,760
Speaker 14: there was better coaching or better exposure or better education

855
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:21,879
Speaker 14: on what it is that they're they're trying to do.

856
00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:25,839
Speaker 14: There's always a roadblock that we're putting up to try

857
00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:30,359
Speaker 14: to block the idea of forwarding sports. And I don't

858
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:32,959
Speaker 14: understand that that it has to change at this point.

859
00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:36,400
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Speaker 13: all the fest cities. I know you still worked in

885
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:42,359
Speaker 13: this time slot. However, many many took some time off

886
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:44,080
Speaker 13: just to watch a ball hang with the family and friends.

887
00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:44,839
Speaker 8: That's what we were doing.

888
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:48,120
Speaker 13: So we actually was at one of the games, so

889
00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:52,399
Speaker 13: there was some boots on the ground for the Orange Bowl,

890
00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:52,640
Speaker 13: so that.

891
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:53,279
Speaker 8: Was a ton of fun.

892
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:56,520
Speaker 13: But I'll start off by asking you this question, how

893
00:43:56,560 --> 00:43:58,880
Speaker 13: long do you get to say Happy New Year to someone?

894
00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:03,200
Speaker 2: I think that's pretty much it. I think I think

895
00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:04,040
Speaker 2: you should just such.

896
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:06,120
Speaker 8: So after today, if you say happy new to someone,

897
00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:06,760
Speaker 8: you're a jerky.

898
00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:07,120
Speaker 4: Yeah.

899
00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:11,319
Speaker 15: Basically, you were the main event of the Happy New Year,

900
00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:17,000
Speaker 15: and anybody that says it after you, they're just they're

901
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:20,760
Speaker 15: a fraud. Like it's worn out as welcome, we are done.

902
00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:22,839
Speaker 15: You just said the last one, and now you got

903
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:24,160
Speaker 15: to move on to twenty twenty six.

904
00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:26,920
Speaker 13: So you're not going to say Happy New Year to

905
00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:28,640
Speaker 13: LeVar when you see him on Monday.

906
00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:33,680
Speaker 15: Oh god, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

907
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:34,520
Speaker 15: of course not.

908
00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:37,440
Speaker 5: I didn't even say it to my wife. No, please,

909
00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:40,279
Speaker 5: come on, no, that's not happening. Yeah, it's over. You

910
00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:43,080
Speaker 5: were the last one. So anybody that said just you're

911
00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:45,680
Speaker 5: put on notice. Anybody that says that the rest of

912
00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:49,200
Speaker 5: the day, you are a fraud. You're living a lie

913
00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:52,680
Speaker 5: and you are trying to carry on it.

914
00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:54,560
Speaker 2: It is what I don't make these rules.

915
00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:54,960
Speaker 4: You do this.

916
00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:57,560
Speaker 13: I don't make these January second and twenty twenty six.

917
00:44:57,800 --> 00:45:00,320
Speaker 13: And you can't have more of a rosy attitude. Speaking

918
00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:03,239
Speaker 13: of Rosie. By the way, what about that Roles have

919
00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:03,799
Speaker 13: about you?

920
00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:06,759
Speaker 2: Look at you, mister Segway King, Look at you.

921
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:12,680
Speaker 5: Can I tell you, just because the nuances of football

922
00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:16,280
Speaker 5: you've forgotten more than ninety nine percent of the planet.

923
00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:20,160
Speaker 5: I'll just say this that there are certain games where

924
00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:22,480
Speaker 5: you watch and you don't need to know the nuances.

925
00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:26,120
Speaker 5: You don't need to know the fine details. You can

926
00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:29,960
Speaker 5: just look at it and it is completely obvious to

927
00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:35,520
Speaker 5: the untrained eye. Indiana is so much better than Alabama.

928
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:39,839
Speaker 5: It's almost shocking. Like I was watching the game going

929
00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:42,200
Speaker 5: you know what reminded me of It reminded me of

930
00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:47,040
Speaker 5: when SEC teams in the early two thousands or mid

931
00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:49,200
Speaker 5: two thousands were playing other.

932
00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:50,200
Speaker 2: Teams like that's it.

933
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:53,000
Speaker 5: Like it's almost like roles reverse, like those old Florida

934
00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:56,160
Speaker 5: teams with Urban Mire, Like it was like roles reverse

935
00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:58,560
Speaker 5: to where you're watching and it looks like two different

936
00:45:58,640 --> 00:45:59,480
Speaker 5: levels of football.

937
00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:05,920
Speaker 8: I am look I'm still shocked. I still keep.

938
00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:09,200
Speaker 13: Thinking that I'm like a sleep and I'm dreaming and

939
00:46:09,239 --> 00:46:12,719
Speaker 13: I'm watching a team that I mean, if you go

940
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:14,680
Speaker 13: back to the Big Ten Championship. We always get these

941
00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:18,760
Speaker 13: notes before some of these games, and I believe Indiana

942
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:23,720
Speaker 13: was the second most losing program in college football history,

943
00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:27,640
Speaker 13: and I keep taking that into account. I remember, like

944
00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:30,360
Speaker 13: looking at some of the notes of how Ohio State

945
00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:33,840
Speaker 13: has like the second most wins something like that, and

946
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:37,319
Speaker 13: the difference between Ohio State and their program history of

947
00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:41,440
Speaker 13: wins and Indiana, that difference I think equated to We're

948
00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:43,799
Speaker 13: almost equated to the amount of wins that Indiana has

949
00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:48,279
Speaker 13: that in school history. So when we talk about what

950
00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:53,920
Speaker 13: Kurt Signetti, Fernando Mendoza, the staff, the players, everyone involved,

951
00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:57,319
Speaker 13: when we talk about what they've done, not only last year,

952
00:46:57,320 --> 00:46:59,240
Speaker 13: because last year was kind of that moment where you're like, okay,

953
00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:02,880
Speaker 13: that Cinderell story, you know, where you're dreaming and you're like,

954
00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:03,600
Speaker 13: are you gonna wake up?

955
00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:05,200
Speaker 8: As this dream ever gonna a good end.

956
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:09,760
Speaker 13: This year solidified the foundation of what they did last

957
00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:13,680
Speaker 13: year and what they're doing this year. To me, it's

958
00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:18,040
Speaker 13: the greatest turnaround in sports history, Like I can't think

959
00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:21,880
Speaker 13: of some people talked about Kansas State. This is way

960
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:26,040
Speaker 13: beyond that. You throw me out a professional sports franchise.

961
00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:31,439
Speaker 13: That's a bigger turnaround a team that was largely viewed

962
00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:34,360
Speaker 13: as a doormat. I mean, I can't tell you. I

963
00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:37,320
Speaker 13: visited there back when I was in high school. A buddy,

964
00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:40,160
Speaker 13: Adam Cadello, who's a linebacker, who was looking to go

965
00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:42,480
Speaker 13: there too, and we kind of went on the visit

966
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:43,040
Speaker 13: and coach.

967
00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:44,920
Speaker 8: Donardo was there. I loved Coach Donardo is running a

968
00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:46,120
Speaker 8: West Coast system.

969
00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:49,520
Speaker 13: But you got there and you looked at the home stadium,

970
00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:51,839
Speaker 13: you looked at facilities, and you're like, this is not

971
00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:52,960
Speaker 13: a football school.

972
00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:55,600
Speaker 8: This is a basketball school. Man Like coming off obviously

973
00:47:55,640 --> 00:47:56,320
Speaker 8: on Bobby.

974
00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:58,160
Speaker 13: Knight and that you know, growing up watching him when

975
00:47:58,160 --> 00:48:00,239
Speaker 13: I was young being a basketball player.

976
00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:01,120
Speaker 8: I can't.

977
00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:05,480
Speaker 13: I still can't fathom what they've accomplished. And what sticks

978
00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:07,719
Speaker 13: out the most to me, Jonas is being at the

979
00:48:07,719 --> 00:48:10,640
Speaker 13: Big Ten championship game and big around this team. When

980
00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:14,680
Speaker 13: you see them up close, you know they don't it

981
00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:18,520
Speaker 13: looks like David and Goliath. Like I know that reference

982
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:22,040
Speaker 13: gets thrown around a bunch, but when you look at

983
00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:26,839
Speaker 13: the sheer size of the players on Indiana versus the

984
00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:31,560
Speaker 13: Ohio States, the Alabama's the name you're in organ for example,

985
00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:33,920
Speaker 13: who they beat earlier this season. When you look at

986
00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:37,479
Speaker 13: them on the field versus one another, you're going, yeah,

987
00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:41,839
Speaker 13: I don't think they're gonna match up, but they overcome

988
00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:45,760
Speaker 13: that with the way they play as a team. They seldom,

989
00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:48,640
Speaker 13: if ever make mistakes. They're one of the best technical

990
00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:51,440
Speaker 13: teams you will ever find. I think what stands out

991
00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:52,959
Speaker 13: to me the most too, is even when they're putting

992
00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:54,720
Speaker 13: positions where they have to win a one on one battle,

993
00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:57,839
Speaker 13: they're either winning that one on one matchup I don't

994
00:48:57,840 --> 00:49:00,400
Speaker 13: care if it's on the offensive line and wide receiver

995
00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:04,640
Speaker 13: at dB or to stalemate. Like they don't really lose,

996
00:49:05,239 --> 00:49:07,640
Speaker 13: Like they just don't do the things that other teams

997
00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:10,520
Speaker 13: do that end up losing them football games. And it's

998
00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:14,600
Speaker 13: incredible to watch how they time and time again end

999
00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:16,920
Speaker 13: up being the more physical team, end up being the

1000
00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:17,520
Speaker 13: better team.

1001
00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:19,560
Speaker 8: And look, I was wrong. I said I thought Bamba

1002
00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:20,160
Speaker 8: could keep it closed.

1003
00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:21,719
Speaker 13: I didn't think they were gonna win necessarily because I

1004
00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:23,600
Speaker 13: don't think I don't think BAM would even deserve to

1005
00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:25,759
Speaker 13: be in the playoff for that matter, But that's another conversation.

1006
00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:29,280
Speaker 13: But just from being down there and seeing those players,

1007
00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:32,400
Speaker 13: it's incredible.

1008
00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:34,600
Speaker 8: When you look at what the Upper against every week.

1009
00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:36,520
Speaker 13: And it'll be that way again as they have a

1010
00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:40,239
Speaker 13: rematch now versus Oregon again, they will be outmatched by

1011
00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:43,759
Speaker 13: as far as the eye test, you know, looking at

1012
00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:46,040
Speaker 13: both teams on the field before the game. But they

1013
00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:49,160
Speaker 13: have constantly overachieved and this is a damn good football team.

1014
00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:52,359
Speaker 15: The hit on Tys Simpson where he was scrambling, which

1015
00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:54,200
Speaker 15: was kind of a key moment in the game because

1016
00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:55,839
Speaker 15: he was gonna pick up a first down. I think

1017
00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:57,920
Speaker 15: it was ten to nothing at that point, and it

1018
00:49:57,960 --> 00:49:59,160
Speaker 15: was like, all right, if they could get down and

1019
00:49:59,160 --> 00:50:01,359
Speaker 15: get a score. You know, they get it to one

1020
00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:03,600
Speaker 15: score and then you know there's some you know, they

1021
00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:05,960
Speaker 15: start to feel good about things, and he just gets

1022
00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:09,000
Speaker 15: lit and fumbles the ball and you just see the

1023
00:50:09,080 --> 00:50:12,960
Speaker 15: look on his face and it looked like all that's

1024
00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:16,359
Speaker 15: that's just a different level, Like they're playing Indiana's playing

1025
00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:20,680
Speaker 15: at a different level than we've seen before, and it

1026
00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:24,000
Speaker 15: should I just come away from that, yeah, really impressed,

1027
00:50:24,760 --> 00:50:29,360
Speaker 15: but shocked to see Alabama. I think the stat was

1028
00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:33,799
Speaker 15: it's the first time Alabama's been held without a touchdown

1029
00:50:34,120 --> 00:50:36,240
Speaker 15: in a bowl game since nineteen sixty.

1030
00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:40,120
Speaker 2: I mean, they got clowned. That wasn't close.

1031
00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:43,600
Speaker 5: Yesterday, and Indiana just did whatever they wanted to, just

1032
00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:46,919
Speaker 5: whatever they wanted to all game long, totally exposed him.

1033
00:50:47,120 --> 00:50:48,320
Speaker 8: It was really really impressive.

1034
00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:50,600
Speaker 13: And look, you know, I think we can be critical

1035
00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:53,360
Speaker 13: of some of Alabama. For example, I think on a

1036
00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:55,320
Speaker 13: fourth and one, they're running like a jet sweep.

1037
00:50:55,840 --> 00:50:57,719
Speaker 8: It's like, dude, you're Alabama, Like you.

1038
00:50:57,640 --> 00:51:02,160
Speaker 13: Can't run the football versus a team that you've got

1039
00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:06,120
Speaker 13: a i mean decisive size of vantage over on both

1040
00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:08,840
Speaker 13: sides of the ball. I mean, I do feel like

1041
00:51:08,920 --> 00:51:11,239
Speaker 13: Ryan Grubb just gets too cute sometimes with some of

1042
00:51:11,239 --> 00:51:14,200
Speaker 13: the things he does. And it again credit to Indiana,

1043
00:51:14,320 --> 00:51:18,000
Speaker 13: you know, defensively, and we've talked about this before and

1044
00:51:18,040 --> 00:51:20,520
Speaker 13: obviously Levar's not here today working with us, but they

1045
00:51:20,520 --> 00:51:23,160
Speaker 13: do something that's like somewhat unique. You don't hear you know,

1046
00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:25,480
Speaker 13: usually pre snap, a lot of defensive players are assigned

1047
00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:29,879
Speaker 13: to a gap. They allowed their defensive front to basically penetrate,

1048
00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:33,080
Speaker 13: you know, get upfield penetrate, and they allow the backers

1049
00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:35,520
Speaker 13: to fit off of that, and there's elements of that

1050
00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:39,759
Speaker 13: that take place on every level. But when you watch them,

1051
00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:43,080
Speaker 13: it's so fluid. They never feel like they're out of position,

1052
00:51:43,080 --> 00:51:45,279
Speaker 13: they never feel like they're out of a gap, and

1053
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:48,200
Speaker 13: they just work together. They do all those little things

1054
00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:51,560
Speaker 13: that like you hear and you're top. And again, credit

1055
00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:54,520
Speaker 13: to Kurt Signetti and credit to the staff. You know,

1056
00:51:54,560 --> 00:51:56,560
Speaker 13: his staff has been with him for such a long

1057
00:51:56,600 --> 00:51:59,359
Speaker 13: period of time that it just it feels like they

1058
00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:03,319
Speaker 13: have a sense in every phase of how they want

1059
00:52:03,360 --> 00:52:06,600
Speaker 13: to play the game together, like the offense, defense, especial

1060
00:52:06,600 --> 00:52:08,000
Speaker 13: teams all working in unison.

1061
00:52:08,640 --> 00:52:11,040
Speaker 8: And then they have a quarterback who you.

1062
00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:15,720
Speaker 13: Know, is as efficient, is as accurate, is as tough

1063
00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:18,520
Speaker 13: and gritty at times. I mean, Fernando Mendoz is not

1064
00:52:18,880 --> 00:52:20,640
Speaker 13: one of the better athletes that's gonna be on the field,

1065
00:52:21,120 --> 00:52:22,840
Speaker 13: but he finds a way to use his legs to

1066
00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:25,439
Speaker 13: extend plays when something's not there. He finds a way

1067
00:52:25,480 --> 00:52:28,480
Speaker 13: of you know, not creating a disaster of a play.

1068
00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:31,240
Speaker 13: He gets upfield, he gets what he can it's positive

1069
00:52:31,280 --> 00:52:33,239
Speaker 13: yardage or back to the line of scrimmage. You know,

1070
00:52:33,239 --> 00:52:37,360
Speaker 13: he throws the football away. I just the entire group

1071
00:52:37,880 --> 00:52:41,920
Speaker 13: is so impressive. And you know, of all the teams

1072
00:52:41,960 --> 00:52:43,600
Speaker 13: that you look at and say, well, everyone else, you

1073
00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:47,480
Speaker 13: know they got to buy couldn't figure it out in

1074
00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:48,760
Speaker 13: that quarterfinal round.

1075
00:52:49,600 --> 00:52:50,640
Speaker 8: Not the case for Indiana.

1076
00:52:50,719 --> 00:52:50,879
Speaker 4: Huh.

1077
00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:55,359
Speaker 13: Like they're taking every narrative and they're throwing it out

1078
00:52:55,360 --> 00:52:59,239
Speaker 13: the window. And I think the spin off of this

1079
00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:03,319
Speaker 13: conversation is they're doing this in Indiana. This isn't a

1080
00:53:03,360 --> 00:53:06,920
Speaker 13: blue blood like this is a program that again has

1081
00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:11,480
Speaker 13: been a doormat in college football with a few exceptions

1082
00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:14,839
Speaker 13: throughout its history besides the past two years since Kurt

1083
00:53:14,840 --> 00:53:18,480
Speaker 13: Signetty got there, and they've turned it around to this

1084
00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:19,839
Speaker 13: and we can.

1085
00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:20,719
Speaker 8: Look at other examples.

1086
00:53:20,719 --> 00:53:23,000
Speaker 13: We can look at Vanderbilt right like we can we

1087
00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:25,240
Speaker 13: can start saying, hey, there's as much parity in college

1088
00:53:25,239 --> 00:53:28,279
Speaker 13: football as ever because of the transfer portal, and now

1089
00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:30,640
Speaker 13: that's the level of the playing field because of nil

1090
00:53:30,719 --> 00:53:33,839
Speaker 13: on how some institutions and some programs have been able

1091
00:53:33,840 --> 00:53:36,400
Speaker 13: to benefit from that and help them to create you know,

1092
00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:38,000
Speaker 13: more Perry and their roster and some of their their

1093
00:53:38,040 --> 00:53:38,880
Speaker 13: top line players.

1094
00:53:39,120 --> 00:53:39,839
Speaker 8: That's part of it.

1095
00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:43,719
Speaker 13: Too, But it puts a lot of other coaches on notice,

1096
00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:47,360
Speaker 13: like if those if those programs have the money to

1097
00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:50,600
Speaker 13: buy out those coaches, they'll do it, yea. And those

1098
00:53:50,600 --> 00:53:52,400
Speaker 13: guys are feeling that, they're feeling like they're on the

1099
00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:55,040
Speaker 13: hot seat right now. And the programs that aren't buying

1100
00:53:55,040 --> 00:53:58,440
Speaker 13: those coaches out, probably because they don't have the money,

1101
00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:02,399
Speaker 13: that's a tough spot being But Indiana doing what they've

1102
00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:05,120
Speaker 13: done to me, I don't know if you agree with this,

1103
00:54:05,239 --> 00:54:10,040
Speaker 13: but I think it's the greatest turnaround in sports, like,

1104
00:54:10,160 --> 00:54:13,920
Speaker 13: not just college football, in sports. With what they've been

1105
00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:16,080
Speaker 13: able to do thus far. And if they if they

1106
00:54:16,120 --> 00:54:18,200
Speaker 13: wouldn't all it only adds to it. But even just

1107
00:54:18,239 --> 00:54:21,480
Speaker 13: getting to this point, it's incredible now.

1108
00:54:21,560 --> 00:54:25,000
Speaker 15: Kurt Signetti afterwards, was on with Rhees Davis on the

1109
00:54:25,040 --> 00:54:28,400
Speaker 15: stage after the Rose Bowl and you know, was asked

1110
00:54:28,440 --> 00:54:30,600
Speaker 15: about the movie Hoo's Yours, but he made sure to

1111
00:54:30,680 --> 00:54:34,000
Speaker 15: let people know there's a rallying cry there in Bloomington.

1112
00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:37,560
Speaker 2: Who would start Urt Signetti in the movie.

1113
00:54:38,600 --> 00:54:40,680
Speaker 17: I don't know about that one, but there'd be a lot.

1114
00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:43,040
Speaker 17: There'd been a big cast of characters. Because it's all

1115
00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:45,600
Speaker 17: about people. You gotta have the right people on your staff,

1116
00:54:45,640 --> 00:54:47,719
Speaker 17: the right guys in the locker room, and we've been

1117
00:54:47,840 --> 00:54:51,920
Speaker 17: very fortunate and these guys buy in. They all think alike,

1118
00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:53,719
Speaker 17: they play like we want them to play. There's been

1119
00:54:53,760 --> 00:54:56,719
Speaker 17: a lot of first It is kind of surreal. There's

1120
00:54:56,760 --> 00:54:58,960
Speaker 17: no doubt about it. I understand why there's been a

1121
00:54:58,960 --> 00:55:02,400
Speaker 17: lot of skeptics, but I only have one thing to say.

1122
00:55:06,400 --> 00:55:12,040
Speaker 18: Perfectly sent perf Congratulations champ Man.

1123
00:55:12,040 --> 00:55:14,560
Speaker 8: I'm telling you and I'd all say this much.

1124
00:55:14,600 --> 00:55:16,600
Speaker 13: I was obviously down at the Orange Bowl yesterday and

1125
00:55:17,480 --> 00:55:19,920
Speaker 13: there before the Oregon Texas Tech game, and there was

1126
00:55:19,920 --> 00:55:22,600
Speaker 13: Indiana fans there, like there was Indiana people who dressed

1127
00:55:22,640 --> 00:55:25,240
Speaker 13: up New Year's that were celebrating it in South Florida

1128
00:55:25,280 --> 00:55:27,400
Speaker 13: and just wanted to come to the game. And I

1129
00:55:27,400 --> 00:55:29,680
Speaker 13: guess they're just waiting to keep moving along with Indiana

1130
00:55:29,719 --> 00:55:32,839
Speaker 13: as they go through the playoff. But they have a

1131
00:55:32,880 --> 00:55:37,120
Speaker 13: fan base that is crazy about what this team has accomplished.

1132
00:55:37,360 --> 00:55:39,520
Speaker 8: And there's that saying like, act like you've been there before.

1133
00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:43,560
Speaker 13: Well look, let's give Indiana fans, uh, you know, a

1134
00:55:43,600 --> 00:55:45,719
Speaker 13: little room for air here because they like this is

1135
00:55:45,719 --> 00:55:47,520
Speaker 13: a first. They've never been here before, so they don't

1136
00:55:47,520 --> 00:55:49,200
Speaker 13: know how to act about it. So I'm okay with

1137
00:55:49,280 --> 00:55:51,840
Speaker 13: them wilding out right now when you see those Inana

1138
00:55:51,840 --> 00:55:53,520
Speaker 13: fans who are excited about what their team's done.

1139
00:55:53,680 --> 00:55:55,799
Speaker 15: Look, I know it's it's way too early to start

1140
00:55:55,840 --> 00:55:58,040
Speaker 15: talking dynasties and all that stuff with the the end

1141
00:55:58,040 --> 00:55:59,920
Speaker 15: and they haven't won one yet, But I'm just saying

1142
00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:02,560
Speaker 15: in the sense of, because you pointed out, you know,

1143
00:56:02,640 --> 00:56:05,040
Speaker 15: we're getting to like they've never done anything close to

1144
00:56:05,040 --> 00:56:08,360
Speaker 15: this before, Like when we grew up, you know, the

1145
00:56:08,440 --> 00:56:10,960
Speaker 15: Jordan Bulls. You know, that was like the team, Like

1146
00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:13,240
Speaker 15: everybody loved the Jordan Bulls, but there was a long

1147
00:56:13,400 --> 00:56:17,520
Speaker 15: time before that where they were awful like they were,

1148
00:56:17,600 --> 00:56:20,400
Speaker 15: and so it's hard to imagine in the moment like,

1149
00:56:20,440 --> 00:56:23,680
Speaker 15: oh really the but you we were sort of there

1150
00:56:23,840 --> 00:56:27,400
Speaker 15: in the embryotic stages of them developing into this great

1151
00:56:27,440 --> 00:56:30,240
Speaker 15: team and and and all of a sudden, the history

1152
00:56:30,280 --> 00:56:32,080
Speaker 15: of the team completely changed.

1153
00:56:32,120 --> 00:56:33,319
Speaker 2: And it almost feels like.

1154
00:56:33,760 --> 00:56:36,840
Speaker 5: We're getting to live in the moment of the beginning

1155
00:56:36,880 --> 00:56:40,839
Speaker 5: stages of maybe another powerhouse. And it's kind of cool

1156
00:56:40,840 --> 00:56:43,879
Speaker 5: to watch because, yeah, the history of it, they've been

1157
00:56:43,960 --> 00:56:46,960
Speaker 5: so bad for some like the were so bad for

1158
00:56:47,000 --> 00:56:50,359
Speaker 5: so long, and yet here they are and it's two

1159
00:56:50,480 --> 00:56:54,200
Speaker 5: years in a row. And they're dominating great programs like Alabama.

1160
00:56:54,280 --> 00:56:56,759
Speaker 5: I think it's a cool opportunity to see something from

1161
00:56:56,800 --> 00:56:59,440
Speaker 5: the beginning stages because look, there's a lot of you

1162
00:56:59,440 --> 00:57:01,480
Speaker 5: know and you men, and I've talked about this before.

1163
00:57:01,520 --> 00:57:03,480
Speaker 5: When you walk through the you know, the Boston it

1164
00:57:03,520 --> 00:57:05,840
Speaker 5: was at Logan Airport in Boston. They've got all the

1165
00:57:05,920 --> 00:57:07,120
Speaker 5: championship flags there.

1166
00:57:07,200 --> 00:57:07,880
Speaker 4: You're in laws.

1167
00:57:08,440 --> 00:57:10,759
Speaker 5: But there was a long time before the Patriots went

1168
00:57:10,800 --> 00:57:11,719
Speaker 5: on that dynasty.

1169
00:57:12,000 --> 00:57:15,919
Speaker 2: They were terrible, terrible, Like a lot of Patriots fans

1170
00:57:15,960 --> 00:57:16,360
Speaker 2: remember that.

1171
00:57:16,440 --> 00:57:19,160
Speaker 5: And there's a you know, a group of Patriots fans

1172
00:57:19,200 --> 00:57:21,440
Speaker 5: now that look around and go all I know for

1173
00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:24,040
Speaker 5: the most part is success. And they're back and maybe

1174
00:57:24,160 --> 00:57:25,920
Speaker 5: potentially going to make a deep run and maybe have

1175
00:57:25,960 --> 00:57:28,880
Speaker 5: the MVP of the league this year. I think Indiana

1176
00:57:28,960 --> 00:57:31,120
Speaker 5: is in the beginning stages of all this, and I

1177
00:57:31,200 --> 00:57:34,720
Speaker 5: think it's really cool to watch because we'll be able

1178
00:57:34,720 --> 00:57:36,960
Speaker 5: to if this goes the way that it's gone the

1179
00:57:36,960 --> 00:57:39,400
Speaker 5: first two years with Signetti, we'll be able to tell

1180
00:57:39,440 --> 00:57:42,280
Speaker 5: people years down the road, Oh, you guys have no

1181
00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:43,600
Speaker 5: idea what this was like.

1182
00:57:43,600 --> 00:57:45,080
Speaker 2: Beforehand, Like enjoy it.

1183
00:57:45,160 --> 00:57:47,080
Speaker 15: Yeah, they're popping up left and right, and maybe there's

1184
00:57:47,120 --> 00:57:49,120
Speaker 15: some in CTI fans that are that are jumping around

1185
00:57:49,160 --> 00:57:51,600
Speaker 15: and and you know, bringing out all their old Indiana stuff.

1186
00:57:52,280 --> 00:57:56,520
Speaker 15: But I just think it illustrates how desolate things were

1187
00:57:56,560 --> 00:57:59,680
Speaker 15: there for Indiana for so long to where yeah, it

1188
00:57:59,720 --> 00:58:02,400
Speaker 15: was a basketball school and Kurt Signette's got him rolling, man,

1189
00:58:02,520 --> 00:58:02,959
Speaker 15: it's fine.

1190
00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:04,800
Speaker 13: Well, and that's where even like, because I was talking

1191
00:58:04,800 --> 00:58:06,840
Speaker 13: with my in laws about this, because I said, you know,

1192
00:58:07,520 --> 00:58:09,840
Speaker 13: even before the Patriots went on the round with the Belichick,

1193
00:58:09,920 --> 00:58:11,680
Speaker 13: like they'd been to a super Bowl with Parcels and

1194
00:58:11,680 --> 00:58:14,800
Speaker 13: what Tony Easton at quarterback, you know, they experienced like

1195
00:58:14,920 --> 00:58:19,040
Speaker 13: some level of getting to the championship before, like really

1196
00:58:19,120 --> 00:58:21,040
Speaker 13: the greatness occurred there.

1197
00:58:21,240 --> 00:58:23,920
Speaker 8: There's nothing like this, No, like there's been nothing.

1198
00:58:24,200 --> 00:58:26,400
Speaker 13: I mean, Tom Allen had a nine to ten one

1199
00:58:26,480 --> 00:58:28,640
Speaker 13: year whatever it was or somewhere in that ballpark. He

1200
00:58:28,840 --> 00:58:30,960
Speaker 13: was competitive in Indiana and hell it might have been

1201
00:58:31,000 --> 00:58:32,680
Speaker 13: that shit that a COVID year now that I think

1202
00:58:32,720 --> 00:58:35,320
Speaker 13: about it, when Michael Pennix was there and they kind

1203
00:58:35,320 --> 00:58:36,080
Speaker 13: of competed within.

1204
00:58:35,960 --> 00:58:36,480
Speaker 8: The Big ten.

1205
00:58:36,520 --> 00:58:40,720
Speaker 13: But they've never really been able to replicate anything of

1206
00:58:40,760 --> 00:58:43,240
Speaker 13: what they've done these past two years.

1207
00:58:43,640 --> 00:58:44,440
Speaker 8: It's why I keep.

1208
00:58:44,360 --> 00:58:47,440
Speaker 13: Kind of going back to I can't think of another

1209
00:58:47,680 --> 00:58:51,280
Speaker 13: really program that has struggled to the degree that Indiana

1210
00:58:51,360 --> 00:58:54,120
Speaker 13: has and has now done this, and I think, look again,

1211
00:58:54,280 --> 00:58:57,080
Speaker 13: we're only at the semi final portion of the of

1212
00:58:57,120 --> 00:58:58,200
Speaker 13: the playoff or the tournament.

1213
00:58:58,720 --> 00:59:03,160
Speaker 8: But the hard thing is they're gonna have to start

1214
00:59:03,200 --> 00:59:04,280
Speaker 8: over again at quarterback.

1215
00:59:04,280 --> 00:59:07,200
Speaker 13: Now his brother, Fernando's brother, Alberto I believe is his

1216
00:59:07,200 --> 00:59:07,720
Speaker 13: first name.

1217
00:59:08,040 --> 00:59:09,080
Speaker 8: He's there's the backup.

1218
00:59:09,160 --> 00:59:11,000
Speaker 13: So I would assume that might be a guy that

1219
00:59:11,120 --> 00:59:13,880
Speaker 13: looking at or maybe Signetti wants to go back to

1220
00:59:13,920 --> 00:59:16,320
Speaker 13: the portal again because they've they've kind of lived off

1221
00:59:16,320 --> 00:59:19,400
Speaker 13: of two things, and that's some of the players he

1222
00:59:19,440 --> 00:59:22,920
Speaker 13: brought from James Madison with him, but also from Portal

1223
00:59:22,920 --> 00:59:25,920
Speaker 13: players that he's you know, has transferred in very similar

1224
00:59:25,920 --> 00:59:28,880
Speaker 13: to Fernanda Mendoza coming from cal So, you know, in

1225
00:59:28,920 --> 00:59:31,320
Speaker 13: one way, that's one of the things that's allowed them

1226
00:59:31,600 --> 00:59:33,160
Speaker 13: to be able to go on this run and build

1227
00:59:33,200 --> 00:59:36,600
Speaker 13: the roster the way they have. And the other, you know,

1228
00:59:36,600 --> 00:59:38,960
Speaker 13: part of that is there's gonna be times where you miss.

1229
00:59:39,480 --> 00:59:41,200
Speaker 13: And so that's why when you talk about even like

1230
00:59:41,320 --> 00:59:44,160
Speaker 13: mentioning dynasty, like dude, this is so hard to do,

1231
00:59:44,920 --> 00:59:47,160
Speaker 13: and especially the way they've done it in some ways

1232
00:59:47,200 --> 00:59:49,800
Speaker 13: early on because there's so much roster turnover and there

1233
00:59:49,800 --> 00:59:51,920
Speaker 13: will be like, this is a team that has players

1234
00:59:51,960 --> 00:59:53,840
Speaker 13: are gonna get drafted, Like there will be the most

1235
00:59:53,880 --> 00:59:57,200
Speaker 13: players from this roster drafted in Indiana history.

1236
00:59:57,240 --> 00:59:58,880
Speaker 8: And I don't know that it's gonna be close.

1237
01:00:00,160 --> 01:00:03,880
Speaker 13: So replacing Mendoza, replacing some of these players you're going

1238
01:00:03,920 --> 01:00:06,080
Speaker 13: to lose, and then trying to come back and do

1239
01:00:06,120 --> 01:00:09,280
Speaker 13: it again, that's the tough part. But it feels like

1240
01:00:09,360 --> 01:00:12,600
Speaker 13: Signetti has that when you talk to his staff and

1241
01:00:12,640 --> 01:00:14,880
Speaker 13: you talk to like what would be the equivalent of

1242
01:00:14,920 --> 01:00:18,400
Speaker 13: their front office folks in their scouting department. You know,

1243
01:00:18,440 --> 01:00:20,800
Speaker 13: those guys say, you know, he sits down with all

1244
01:00:20,840 --> 01:00:24,480
Speaker 13: these players and he's very very diligent with how he

1245
01:00:24,480 --> 01:00:26,080
Speaker 13: does film and all these cut ups and different things

1246
01:00:26,120 --> 01:00:28,840
Speaker 13: he does. He's like, so he sees the player, he

1247
01:00:28,960 --> 01:00:32,480
Speaker 13: knows the player what they're capable of. But the secret

1248
01:00:32,600 --> 01:00:36,920
Speaker 13: is he talks to them and he interviews them, and

1249
01:00:37,400 --> 01:00:41,040
Speaker 13: from that singular meeting, when they walk out of the

1250
01:00:41,120 --> 01:00:44,520
Speaker 13: room their scouting department, he'll kind of give a nod

1251
01:00:44,560 --> 01:00:48,200
Speaker 13: of yes or no. And to the point of what

1252
01:00:48,360 --> 01:00:52,080
Speaker 13: he said postgame about all these guys buying in all

1253
01:00:52,120 --> 01:00:55,320
Speaker 13: these guys are on the same page, there is some

1254
01:00:55,440 --> 01:00:58,919
Speaker 13: conversation that occurs, and whatever is said back to him,

1255
01:00:59,320 --> 01:01:01,000
Speaker 13: he's able to discern whether.

1256
01:01:00,880 --> 01:01:03,160
Speaker 8: Or not that person is the right fit.

1257
01:01:03,440 --> 01:01:03,760
Speaker 2: Wow.

1258
01:01:04,160 --> 01:01:05,640
Speaker 13: And I think that's one of the biggest things that

1259
01:01:05,680 --> 01:01:09,040
Speaker 13: stands out to me about just what they've accomplished is, Dude,

1260
01:01:09,080 --> 01:01:11,320
Speaker 13: it's a bunch of I don't want to say castaways

1261
01:01:12,400 --> 01:01:16,760
Speaker 13: or misfits as they've described themselves, but I look at

1262
01:01:16,760 --> 01:01:19,480
Speaker 13: a guy like Pat Coogan. He was at Notre Dame.

1263
01:01:19,840 --> 01:01:21,640
Speaker 13: He was there somewhat in a backup role, but then

1264
01:01:21,680 --> 01:01:24,520
Speaker 13: he got thrust it into a starting role. Was phenomenal

1265
01:01:24,760 --> 01:01:26,880
Speaker 13: at Notre Dame. But he's not there anymore, in part

1266
01:01:26,880 --> 01:01:29,280
Speaker 13: because he wasn't going to start this upcoming season, so

1267
01:01:29,320 --> 01:01:31,400
Speaker 13: he transferres to Indiana and now he's a part of

1268
01:01:31,400 --> 01:01:33,200
Speaker 13: the team that's playing in the semi final, potentially for

1269
01:01:33,240 --> 01:01:34,360
Speaker 13: a national championship.

1270
01:01:34,760 --> 01:01:37,439
Speaker 8: And you look at like a player like that, for.

1271
01:01:37,400 --> 01:01:40,360
Speaker 13: Example, he obviously has a certain makeup of a certain

1272
01:01:40,360 --> 01:01:41,960
Speaker 13: building and a huge chip on his shoulder. And I

1273
01:01:42,000 --> 01:01:45,560
Speaker 13: think that's what Kurt Signetti has really found in a

1274
01:01:45,560 --> 01:01:48,000
Speaker 13: lot of these players is at one point, they were

1275
01:01:48,040 --> 01:01:50,680
Speaker 13: told they weren't big enough, they weren't fast enough, they

1276
01:01:50,720 --> 01:01:54,160
Speaker 13: weren't good enough, they weren't smart enough. And he's found

1277
01:01:54,440 --> 01:01:56,240
Speaker 13: an edge and he's found a way to use them

1278
01:01:56,280 --> 01:01:58,680
Speaker 13: in the right way where they fit. And I think

1279
01:01:58,680 --> 01:02:00,880
Speaker 13: it's a lesson for like dude, or like a lot

1280
01:02:00,880 --> 01:02:02,480
Speaker 13: of people maybe might be listening who are in a

1281
01:02:02,560 --> 01:02:04,720
Speaker 13: job that they're not they don't feel appreciated in, or

1282
01:02:04,720 --> 01:02:07,720
Speaker 13: they'll feel like they're maximized in. Like man, you can

1283
01:02:07,760 --> 01:02:09,720
Speaker 13: be passionate as you want about something, but you also

1284
01:02:09,840 --> 01:02:11,439
Speaker 13: have to be in the right place and the right

1285
01:02:11,520 --> 01:02:15,200
Speaker 13: fit for what that place is looking for. And that's

1286
01:02:15,240 --> 01:02:18,160
Speaker 13: one where Indiana's like the case study for that right now,

1287
01:02:18,240 --> 01:02:20,920
Speaker 13: because it feels like every single person that walks in

1288
01:02:21,000 --> 01:02:24,080
Speaker 13: that program and he brings on his team and he

1289
01:02:24,160 --> 01:02:26,960
Speaker 13: decides to coach and develop, it just seems like the

1290
01:02:27,040 --> 01:02:28,760
Speaker 13: right fit and they're fit for one another.

1291
01:02:29,160 --> 01:02:31,480
Speaker 15: If you go to Sports Reference and you just look

1292
01:02:31,560 --> 01:02:34,760
Speaker 15: up Indiana, just look up the school history. God, they've

1293
01:02:34,760 --> 01:02:38,400
Speaker 15: had some bad years. Whoa like these and you pointed

1294
01:02:38,400 --> 01:02:40,960
Speaker 15: this out. It's the first time. The first time they

1295
01:02:40,960 --> 01:02:43,400
Speaker 15: ever won double digit games in a season was last year,

1296
01:02:43,560 --> 01:02:46,520
Speaker 15: Like just it's crazy in the history of the program,

1297
01:02:46,680 --> 01:02:48,320
Speaker 15: and it's not like they just got here, you know,

1298
01:02:48,400 --> 01:02:50,200
Speaker 15: twenty minutes ago, or it's Yukon that's.

1299
01:02:50,080 --> 01:02:54,000
Speaker 8: Been around football for a long time. One hundred Stadium.

1300
01:02:55,280 --> 01:02:58,600
Speaker 5: Looks like one hundred and twenty seven years of Indiana

1301
01:02:58,600 --> 01:02:59,920
Speaker 5: football and.

1302
01:03:00,080 --> 01:03:00,840
Speaker 2: We're finally here.

1303
01:03:00,920 --> 01:03:03,360
Speaker 8: So it's so good for them. That's been grab fun things.

1304
01:03:03,360 --> 01:03:05,000
Speaker 8: Who who es