1
00:00:00,960 --> 00:00:05,240
Speaker 1: This podcast is presented by All Copy Products, proud partner

2
00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:08,959
Speaker 1: of the Arizona Cardinals. Learn more at All copy Products

3
00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:13,720
Speaker 1: dot Com. To the fifteen of the ten bir He's

4
00:00:13,720 --> 00:00:18,080
Speaker 1: gonna score touchdown. Welcome to the Cardinals Red Sea Reports.

5
00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:21,040
Speaker 1: Flat to the ground by Puda Baker Like a torpedo.

6
00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:24,040
Speaker 1: He came flying into the backfield corner to the ten

7
00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:26,079
Speaker 1: till the five and end of the ends off of

8
00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:29,400
Speaker 1: the touchdown. The Cardinals Red Sea Report is brought to

9
00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:34,280
Speaker 1: you by Arizona Cardinals Podcast visit Asy Cardinals dot com

10
00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:39,000
Speaker 1: slash podcast. Here we go one hand and catch at

11
00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:44,920
Speaker 1: a touchdown. Oh babyhusit film. Here's Craig Griolo, Darren Urban

12
00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:51,360
Speaker 1: and thirteen year NFL veteran Drew Stando. We are reminded

13
00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:56,200
Speaker 1: way too often just how precious life is. We received

14
00:00:56,320 --> 00:01:01,480
Speaker 1: another reminder yesterday the Arizona Cardinals law a teammate, a

15
00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:06,120
Speaker 1: family lost a son and young father. Quarterback Jeff Gladney

16
00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:10,160
Speaker 1: was killed in a car accident early Monday morning and

17
00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:12,880
Speaker 1: is with heavy hearts that we join you here on

18
00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:16,480
Speaker 1: the Cardinals Red Sea Reports. Craig Really, Drew Stanton and

19
00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:20,480
Speaker 1: Darren Urban, Jeff Gladney did not know him personally. Got

20
00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:24,560
Speaker 1: to admit that upfront, Darren. He was a recent signing,

21
00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:30,080
Speaker 1: a recent Arizona cardinal, signed in March and gone way

22
00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:34,000
Speaker 1: too soon, just twenty five years old. And it's unfortunate

23
00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:36,520
Speaker 1: did not get a chance to know the young man

24
00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:38,960
Speaker 1: because there was a lot of excitements in the building

25
00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:41,240
Speaker 1: about what he could bring to the team. But that

26
00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:45,360
Speaker 1: is besides the point. Right now, there are some heavy hearts,

27
00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:50,160
Speaker 1: not only here but with the Gladney family. Yeah, it's

28
00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:52,680
Speaker 1: it's a it's a strange situation a little bit, Craig,

29
00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:57,920
Speaker 1: because as you mentioned, he did just sign. With the

30
00:01:57,960 --> 00:02:01,680
Speaker 1: way the offseason goes and with the voluntary nature of it,

31
00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:06,280
Speaker 1: he is he just started coming last week when OTAs began.

32
00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:11,040
Speaker 1: You know, from what I've heard, there's a he was

33
00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:13,160
Speaker 1: had a smile on his face and he was here

34
00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:17,120
Speaker 1: to work hard. But you know, he was just starting

35
00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:19,280
Speaker 1: to get to know a lot of these guys and

36
00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:22,160
Speaker 1: obviously some of the some of his teammates didn't get

37
00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:24,480
Speaker 1: a chance to know him because they weren't here. And

38
00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:28,040
Speaker 1: and now he's gone, and it's just a sobering reminder

39
00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:32,040
Speaker 1: again that this can be fleeting and uh to hug

40
00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:37,720
Speaker 1: your loved ones. And unfortunately, this is a very close

41
00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:41,440
Speaker 1: to home example of what I think this whole country

42
00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:43,760
Speaker 1: is going through after everything that happened last week, and

43
00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:48,040
Speaker 1: it's just it's just very rough. Arizona Cardinals released a

44
00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:51,639
Speaker 1: statements quote, we are devastated to learn of Jeff Gladen.

45
00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:54,440
Speaker 1: He's passing. Our hearts go out to his family, friends

46
00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:59,560
Speaker 1: and all who are mourning this tremendous loss. Teammates on

47
00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:04,240
Speaker 1: Twitter Drew Zach Allen, Zaven Collins, Isaiah Simmons, JJ Watts,

48
00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:08,400
Speaker 1: all current teammates and as Darren mentioned, maybe had just

49
00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:11,919
Speaker 1: met him, had known him for just a brief amount

50
00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:14,399
Speaker 1: of time, and now all of a sudden, they walk

51
00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:17,400
Speaker 1: into that locker room here on Tuesday morning and a

52
00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:20,079
Speaker 1: teammate is no longer there. Yeah. You know, there is

53
00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:22,799
Speaker 1: a brotherhood that goes along with playing this game. And

54
00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:25,200
Speaker 1: if you've been in a locker room at any level

55
00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:29,000
Speaker 1: of playing this sport, you know you realize the bond

56
00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:31,679
Speaker 1: that is created and that was forming. But it also

57
00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:34,480
Speaker 1: gives you perspective. I mean, I think when we look

58
00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:36,560
Speaker 1: at this and this is an amazing game that we

59
00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:38,960
Speaker 1: get to play as professionals. But when you lose somebody

60
00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:41,120
Speaker 1: and you realize that locker space is never going to

61
00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:44,360
Speaker 1: be filled, and the effect that it has on his family,

62
00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:46,840
Speaker 1: on his one year old son that will no longer

63
00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:50,480
Speaker 1: know his father, it makes you realize, Okay, each day

64
00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:53,600
Speaker 1: is not guaranteed, and we get constant reminders of that, unfortunately.

65
00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:57,080
Speaker 1: But at the same time, to hear his teammates at

66
00:03:57,120 --> 00:03:59,920
Speaker 1: TC you talk about him, to hear about the kind

67
00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:02,280
Speaker 1: of a guy that he was in the trajectory of

68
00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:04,280
Speaker 1: where his career was headed because of the man he

69
00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:06,880
Speaker 1: was becoming. That's what the sad part is because you

70
00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:08,840
Speaker 1: don't get to see it come full circle of Hey,

71
00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:11,840
Speaker 1: he got another opportunity because things weren't going in his direction.

72
00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:14,000
Speaker 1: He didn't give up, but he was going to pursue

73
00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:16,960
Speaker 1: that and be able to come here with a fresh start,

74
00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:20,359
Speaker 1: and sometimes that's all guys need. And from his limited

75
00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:22,120
Speaker 1: time here, knowing some of the guys that are in

76
00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:23,719
Speaker 1: that locker room with him, that's what they were saying

77
00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:26,960
Speaker 1: about him. So again that's secondary at a time like

78
00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:29,320
Speaker 1: this because it's so fresh. It's so hard to be

79
00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:32,279
Speaker 1: able to digest something like this, because the finality of

80
00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:34,240
Speaker 1: it is is this kid has gone way too early,

81
00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:37,159
Speaker 1: as twenty five years old in that locker room right

82
00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:40,159
Speaker 1: now and during the course of the next days, weeks,

83
00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:43,760
Speaker 1: months on into the season, how do you how do

84
00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:49,400
Speaker 1: you move on as a team teammates rallying around each

85
00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:52,440
Speaker 1: other and now understanding that yeah, things do need to

86
00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:56,000
Speaker 1: move on, but at the same time, the family also

87
00:04:56,080 --> 00:04:59,000
Speaker 1: needs healing and support at the moment. Yeah, you know,

88
00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:00,840
Speaker 1: there's a balance with an all of it. And I

89
00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:04,040
Speaker 1: think that because these guys didn't know him extremely well.

90
00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:06,359
Speaker 1: You know, you talk to guys and you want that

91
00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:09,120
Speaker 1: legacy to live on. Whatever his legacy could have been

92
00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:11,040
Speaker 1: or should have been, is you want to make sure

93
00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:12,800
Speaker 1: you highlight the positives within it. And that's what I

94
00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:15,080
Speaker 1: would say if I was around this guy for whatever

95
00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:17,760
Speaker 1: time that I was there, And unfortunately he is not

96
00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:19,400
Speaker 1: going to be a part of it, because you know,

97
00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:22,400
Speaker 1: look like you can look at it many different ways,

98
00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:23,720
Speaker 1: and he was probably going to start and to have

99
00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:26,640
Speaker 1: a pretty big role on this team. That is all

100
00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:30,120
Speaker 1: secondary when it comes down to that, because the beauty

101
00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:33,360
Speaker 1: of playing in this league and being around teammates, you

102
00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:36,480
Speaker 1: remember those locker room talks, you remember all the things

103
00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:38,520
Speaker 1: that necessarily didn't transpire on the field, and when you

104
00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:42,680
Speaker 1: lose somebody way too soon in this type of a setting,

105
00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:44,919
Speaker 1: it it's just tragic and there's no words that you

106
00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:48,440
Speaker 1: can't wrap your mind around it. Again, you try to

107
00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:51,279
Speaker 1: help uplift everybody else around you, but also the family

108
00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:54,240
Speaker 1: that he left behind or those are the people that

109
00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:57,000
Speaker 1: you really feel foremost in a situation like this that

110
00:05:57,160 --> 00:06:00,160
Speaker 1: football components. There is part of that to this or

111
00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:03,960
Speaker 1: and it will be discussed, just not today, Maybe we'll

112
00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:06,839
Speaker 1: get into that in the coming days and weeks, and

113
00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:09,880
Speaker 1: it will be good to hear, hopefully Darren later this week,

114
00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:13,480
Speaker 1: second week of Outta's and we hope to hear from

115
00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:16,040
Speaker 1: head coach Cliff Kingsbury. And I'm sure a lot of

116
00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:18,279
Speaker 1: it is going to be about Jeff Gladdene, not the player,

117
00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:21,960
Speaker 1: but the person and why the Cardinals wanted to give

118
00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:25,040
Speaker 1: this young man a second chance, and from all accounts

119
00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:30,640
Speaker 1: teammates coaches, he was anxious to get that second start here. Yeah,

120
00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:34,000
Speaker 1: I mean everything that I've heard that is absolutely the case.

121
00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:37,479
Speaker 1: And again, like you said, there's there's a time and

122
00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:40,400
Speaker 1: place to kind of discuss some of this stuff and

123
00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:43,279
Speaker 1: I know, I know there's fans out there that, let's

124
00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:46,279
Speaker 1: face it, they don't necessarily have a personal connection to

125
00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:51,839
Speaker 1: the players, so they're thinking about their team. But you know,

126
00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:55,080
Speaker 1: right now, it just feels very much like football as

127
00:06:55,120 --> 00:07:01,760
Speaker 1: far away. It's May, and uh, there's the time to

128
00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:04,240
Speaker 1: worry about the football part of it. And I think,

129
00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:06,960
Speaker 1: like we've all been talking about, it's right now, you're

130
00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:10,960
Speaker 1: trying to get your head around. This organization is collectively

131
00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:14,520
Speaker 1: trying to get their head around losing a person that

132
00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:18,880
Speaker 1: was just here a few days ago, like on the field,

133
00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:23,040
Speaker 1: laughing with some of his teammates and working in those drills,

134
00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:26,440
Speaker 1: and then you know, everybody goes off for their Memorial

135
00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:30,280
Speaker 1: Day weekend, and to have this happen is just a

136
00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:32,560
Speaker 1: it's a gut punch in a lot of ways. Former

137
00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:36,240
Speaker 1: first round pick the Minnesota Vikings, who also released a

138
00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:39,320
Speaker 1: statements on Monday, quote, we are sat in by the

139
00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:42,840
Speaker 1: tragic death of former Viking Jeff Gladney. Our hearts go

140
00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:44,880
Speaker 1: out to his family and friends, as well as the

141
00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:48,720
Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals organization and Jeff's currents and former teammates and

142
00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:52,080
Speaker 1: coaches who are mourning his life. Loss much too soon.

143
00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:55,720
Speaker 1: End of statement. Again, Jeff Gladdene gone way too soon

144
00:07:56,080 --> 00:07:59,560
Speaker 1: at the age of twenty five years old. From all

145
00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:02,920
Speaker 1: of us at the Red Sea Reports and the Arizona Cardinals,

146
00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:05,800
Speaker 1: we offer ours since your condolences to the family and

147
00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:17,000
Speaker 1: friends of Jeff Gladney Jackson. I'm burnt down once the

148
00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:21,080
Speaker 1: row going deep looking for Hollywood Brown and Zo tot

149
00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:27,080
Speaker 1: stop Hollywood Row. Surprise, Surprise. He is a guy that

150
00:08:27,640 --> 00:08:30,720
Speaker 1: makes sense for a number of reasons. Number one, two

151
00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:34,320
Speaker 1: years of control costs, getting a dynamic receiver who's played

152
00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:38,439
Speaker 1: inside outside obviously, the chemistry with our quarterback, and a

153
00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:41,240
Speaker 1: guy who can be a dynamic vertical thread, which is

154
00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:43,800
Speaker 1: something we were looking for as well. As I had

155
00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:45,439
Speaker 1: a very strong feeling that the board was going to

156
00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:47,920
Speaker 1: fall away, it did, and I'm awfully glad that we

157
00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:53,560
Speaker 1: made this trade. All right, pop quiz Derek, Yes, do

158
00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:59,040
Speaker 1: you know what today is? What today marks here as

159
00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:06,320
Speaker 1: we speak on this May thirty first, the end of May. Okay,

160
00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:08,880
Speaker 1: I'll give you that. Well, thanks, I appreciate that. One

161
00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:13,320
Speaker 1: hundred days from right now the starts of the twenty

162
00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:15,680
Speaker 1: twenty two regular season. Of course, the Cardinals will have

163
00:09:15,679 --> 00:09:19,040
Speaker 1: to wait three additional days before we see Markus Brown

164
00:09:19,520 --> 00:09:22,240
Speaker 1: in an Arizona Cardinals uniform and a game that matters,

165
00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:25,520
Speaker 1: not counting preseason, but a game that matters. I haven't

166
00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:27,600
Speaker 1: even had a vacation yet, Greg, so I don't want

167
00:09:27,640 --> 00:09:30,000
Speaker 1: to talk about the start of the season. All right, then,

168
00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:32,880
Speaker 1: Drew and I we'll talk about markis from Yeah, let's

169
00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:38,360
Speaker 1: go the excitements on draft night. Obviously no first round

170
00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:41,360
Speaker 1: draft pick, but now you have Markus Brown in the fold.

171
00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:44,160
Speaker 1: All right, let's go. Let's let's play a head coach here, Drew.

172
00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:46,400
Speaker 1: I've made you general manager before, we'll make you a

173
00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:49,160
Speaker 1: head coach. Now, what do you do with mark Us

174
00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:52,679
Speaker 1: Brown in this offense? Because when Kingsbury was asked about

175
00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:55,160
Speaker 1: that earlier in May, he said, well, we just kind

176
00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:57,600
Speaker 1: of need to fit see where he fits. So I

177
00:09:57,640 --> 00:09:59,960
Speaker 1: think things are still in motion. But when you don't

178
00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:04,319
Speaker 1: have a DeAndre Hopkins, how does that kind of change things? Also? Well,

179
00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:06,200
Speaker 1: I think first getting him in the building, there's a

180
00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:09,160
Speaker 1: good start to see where he's at, where he's comfortable at,

181
00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:12,240
Speaker 1: get a gauge for what's going on, and you kind

182
00:10:12,280 --> 00:10:15,280
Speaker 1: of go from there. You with some rookies, right, you

183
00:10:15,280 --> 00:10:17,760
Speaker 1: want to kind of bring them along slowly. I would

184
00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:19,760
Speaker 1: do the comple opposite. I would throw everything at him

185
00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:21,640
Speaker 1: to see what sticks. I would say, Okay, what can

186
00:10:21,679 --> 00:10:23,240
Speaker 1: we get out of you right away that we know,

187
00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:24,960
Speaker 1: we don't even have to talk about. What can you

188
00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:27,480
Speaker 1: tell us that you did with him, that you really

189
00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:29,240
Speaker 1: liked with Kyler or some of this stuff, Because there's

190
00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:31,080
Speaker 1: a lot of parallels in the offense. Whether or not

191
00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:33,199
Speaker 1: the burbage is the same, I'm sure they're going over

192
00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:35,679
Speaker 1: different you know, signals or being able to do all that.

193
00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:38,600
Speaker 1: But a player of his caliber, of his skill set,

194
00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:40,640
Speaker 1: you should be able to move him anywhere within this

195
00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:42,200
Speaker 1: offense and you get the ball in his hands as

196
00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:44,600
Speaker 1: much as possible to see what he can do. And

197
00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:48,120
Speaker 1: everybody's aware of how fast he is, but his ability

198
00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:50,960
Speaker 1: to make, you know, plays on the inside. Can you

199
00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:52,800
Speaker 1: do that? Can you do jet sweeps with him? Can

200
00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:55,040
Speaker 1: you be able to play off some of those things?

201
00:10:55,240 --> 00:10:57,280
Speaker 1: I think they probably have a good idea of how

202
00:10:57,320 --> 00:10:59,400
Speaker 1: they want them to. But for the first portion of

203
00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:01,760
Speaker 1: his career in the NFL, there's no sample that's going

204
00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:03,959
Speaker 1: to say this is what he can do, because what

205
00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:07,160
Speaker 1: it's going to be asked of him now is vastly different.

206
00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:09,160
Speaker 1: And going back to look at college tape that when

207
00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:11,920
Speaker 1: he was beating up on our Iowa state, that's not

208
00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:13,760
Speaker 1: really going to lend too much to what needs to

209
00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:16,960
Speaker 1: be done in that regard. So I would throw everything

210
00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:18,440
Speaker 1: at him and see what you can do. And I'm

211
00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:21,199
Speaker 1: sure him and Kyler, since they've been thrown and working together,

212
00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:22,960
Speaker 1: will be on the same page and being able to

213
00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:25,600
Speaker 1: get in here if he comes for mandatory mini camp

214
00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:29,839
Speaker 1: or whatever it is his involvement, but he's a guy

215
00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:31,600
Speaker 1: that's going to have to step up in the absence

216
00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:34,120
Speaker 1: for now, and he's got a lot to prove, and

217
00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:38,040
Speaker 1: I know that because he has not played within this

218
00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:40,800
Speaker 1: offense for a while, it could look very different than college.

219
00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:42,199
Speaker 1: So I don't even think you're gonna get a good

220
00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:44,000
Speaker 1: barometer if you go back and watch that tape. It's

221
00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:46,480
Speaker 1: all speculation at this point. But it'll be a fun

222
00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:49,880
Speaker 1: training camp to see how it evolves each and every day,

223
00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:51,520
Speaker 1: because I'm sure they don't know how they're going to

224
00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:55,360
Speaker 1: use them. It's it's interesting because even though he hasn't

225
00:11:55,400 --> 00:11:58,040
Speaker 1: he wasn't here for the first week Votier's Hollywood Brown,

226
00:11:58,280 --> 00:12:00,319
Speaker 1: he did show up for a couple of different Phase

227
00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:04,040
Speaker 1: two workouts, and obviously that's a lot different than anything

228
00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:06,680
Speaker 1: you're not going against defenses and everything. But watching him

229
00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:11,480
Speaker 1: kind of really get into conversations, especially when they were

230
00:12:11,559 --> 00:12:16,680
Speaker 1: running some routes on air with the other receivers and

231
00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:19,040
Speaker 1: having him getting looking like he was in pretty deep

232
00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:23,760
Speaker 1: discussions with Spencer Whipple or with Sean Jefferson, and clearly

233
00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:26,679
Speaker 1: those conversations have already started over Okay, this is what

234
00:12:26,679 --> 00:12:28,839
Speaker 1: we're trying to do, this is what we might do,

235
00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:32,120
Speaker 1: and you know, the speed is obvious. There was one

236
00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:35,360
Speaker 1: Phase two thing where they ran a play and they

237
00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:38,680
Speaker 1: just basically told him to go on a fly pattern

238
00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:41,600
Speaker 1: and he just ran down the field and it the

239
00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:45,320
Speaker 1: man can eat up yards at an incredible pace. So

240
00:12:46,520 --> 00:12:49,000
Speaker 1: obviously Drew's right there. I think they're gonna throw a

241
00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:50,840
Speaker 1: lot out him. I think he was already trying to

242
00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:54,880
Speaker 1: like kind of internalize some of that already, Hey what

243
00:12:54,920 --> 00:12:56,680
Speaker 1: are we doing there? It looked like he was kind

244
00:12:56,720 --> 00:12:58,920
Speaker 1: of like pointing out some Okay, what are they trying

245
00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:02,760
Speaker 1: to do here? And as we go on, whether it's

246
00:13:02,760 --> 00:13:04,559
Speaker 1: whether he shows up for any of the ots or

247
00:13:04,559 --> 00:13:07,000
Speaker 1: whether it's part of mandatory mini camp or especially as

248
00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:10,440
Speaker 1: as Drew said, sing in training camp, what he gets

249
00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:14,200
Speaker 1: to do, he's gonna have options because, like you said,

250
00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:16,400
Speaker 1: with no DeAndre Hopkins, they're gonna need a lot more

251
00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:19,240
Speaker 1: out of him right out of the box. Especially. I mean,

252
00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:21,920
Speaker 1: I love this trade. When I thought he was going

253
00:13:21,960 --> 00:13:24,320
Speaker 1: to be paired with DeAndre Hopkins. Obviously it became a

254
00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:28,520
Speaker 1: lot more necessary with the news of Hopkins missing those

255
00:13:28,520 --> 00:13:31,600
Speaker 1: six games. But I know they got to get through

256
00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:35,559
Speaker 1: those first six games, Greig, But I'm I'm very excited

257
00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:38,320
Speaker 1: to see this offense. When they have Hoppin Brown on

258
00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:42,120
Speaker 1: the field together. It's encouraging to hear that conversations are

259
00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:45,200
Speaker 1: taking place and that maybe is more important than the

260
00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:48,080
Speaker 1: actual on field work, because it's all right, what do

261
00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:50,480
Speaker 1: you like to do? Markis all right, this is what

262
00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:53,040
Speaker 1: we envision you. Let's see if we can come to

263
00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:56,240
Speaker 1: some kind of happy medium, or we try a whole

264
00:13:56,280 --> 00:13:58,920
Speaker 1: bunch of stuff to Drew's point, and then okay, well

265
00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:01,280
Speaker 1: that's not exactly how we like it, or we can

266
00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:04,320
Speaker 1: tweak this. There's gonna be a lot of experiment team,

267
00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:06,960
Speaker 1: and that's what now is for. It's also what training

268
00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:09,440
Speaker 1: camp is for. Yeah, well, I think to that point too, right,

269
00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:12,120
Speaker 1: Him and Kyler already have a report together. There's certain

270
00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:14,920
Speaker 1: ways that they do things. You know, they both have

271
00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:17,880
Speaker 1: a unique skill set at their given position that they

272
00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:20,400
Speaker 1: can adapt on the fly, literally on the fly of

273
00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:22,760
Speaker 1: like things are going and it turns into a backyard

274
00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:25,160
Speaker 1: football game. It's hard to be able to do that

275
00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:27,480
Speaker 1: against the guy of his caliber and stay with him

276
00:14:27,520 --> 00:14:29,240
Speaker 1: for a long period of time. I would imagine being

277
00:14:29,280 --> 00:14:30,840
Speaker 1: a smaller guy, they're going to try and get hands

278
00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:32,760
Speaker 1: on him. Is he able to get off the press,

279
00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:34,200
Speaker 1: is he able to go to get a two way

280
00:14:34,280 --> 00:14:36,440
Speaker 1: go in the slot. All of these things will kind

281
00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:39,840
Speaker 1: of do that. But in saying that, I would also say,

282
00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:42,280
Speaker 1: I'm teaching you concepts. I want you to learn, not

283
00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:45,720
Speaker 1: x Z, not the slot, not this. I want you

284
00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:47,400
Speaker 1: to see the whole picture, because it's not like he's

285
00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:49,440
Speaker 1: coming in as a rookie's gonna be overwhelmed with what's

286
00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:51,480
Speaker 1: being thrown at him. He's going to be able to

287
00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:55,040
Speaker 1: understand concepts so that when DeAndre does come back, Okay,

288
00:14:55,040 --> 00:14:57,200
Speaker 1: you're not X anymore, which you're gonna slide over to Z.

289
00:14:57,560 --> 00:15:00,160
Speaker 1: You're interchangeable, You're doing all of these things, and it

290
00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:02,280
Speaker 1: might not happen right away, and you might have bad days,

291
00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:05,000
Speaker 1: it might not be pretty, but as long as you've

292
00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:08,120
Speaker 1: touched on earlier, the communication is there. It's a two

293
00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:10,440
Speaker 1: way street, not only with the player and the coach,

294
00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:12,600
Speaker 1: but between player and player of what they're looking for.

295
00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:16,080
Speaker 1: It's a moving target. And that's why we have training camp.

296
00:15:16,120 --> 00:15:18,960
Speaker 1: That's why we have all of these, you know, different phases.

297
00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:21,040
Speaker 1: Is the kind of build up to that. And I

298
00:15:21,080 --> 00:15:24,600
Speaker 1: think what he brings to the table is a marquee

299
00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:27,880
Speaker 1: type of first round wide receiver that can be a

300
00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:30,280
Speaker 1: go to guy. You're just still trying to figure out

301
00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:33,000
Speaker 1: what that looks like for the six games without the

302
00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:35,440
Speaker 1: other Pro Bowl wide receiver across from him. Dude, did

303
00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:39,760
Speaker 1: you ever have a guy like we're thinking Hollywood will

304
00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:42,640
Speaker 1: be for Kyler where you have enough of a rapport

305
00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:46,200
Speaker 1: that you take a lot of the edge off trying

306
00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:48,040
Speaker 1: to get that chemistry. Did you ever have a guy

307
00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:50,240
Speaker 1: like that in your career, whether it was college or pro. Well,

308
00:15:50,280 --> 00:15:51,800
Speaker 1: I think there are certain guys you just feel more

309
00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:53,800
Speaker 1: comfortable throwing to right that get in and out of

310
00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:55,800
Speaker 1: breaks and you have a natural field when you're throwing

311
00:15:55,840 --> 00:15:57,360
Speaker 1: to them. I mean, John Brown was a guy that

312
00:15:57,360 --> 00:15:59,280
Speaker 1: comes to mind here for a frame of reference for

313
00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:01,720
Speaker 1: a lot of Ardenmals fans when I was here, because

314
00:16:01,720 --> 00:16:04,000
Speaker 1: he started out as a lower round draft pick that

315
00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:06,440
Speaker 1: worked his way up. He was so easy to throw too,

316
00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:09,000
Speaker 1: and he was just moving at a different speed than

317
00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:10,640
Speaker 1: everybody else in and out of his break, so you

318
00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:12,400
Speaker 1: had to put it more out in front. And he's

319
00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:14,600
Speaker 1: just a guy that always felt comfortable going to because

320
00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:16,600
Speaker 1: I never felt like I could overthrow him, and so

321
00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:18,160
Speaker 1: you got to you had to put it out there.

322
00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:20,840
Speaker 1: It's a still similar skill set in that you know,

323
00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:23,560
Speaker 1: even when I played, you know the number of starts

324
00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:25,960
Speaker 1: that I had here, he always had good games because

325
00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:27,680
Speaker 1: I knew that he was going to get open for me.

326
00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:30,600
Speaker 1: And there's certain guys. Again it's communication. It's say I

327
00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:32,400
Speaker 1: need you to be here at this certain time. Hey,

328
00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:34,200
Speaker 1: when you come out of this break, make sure you're

329
00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:35,880
Speaker 1: running out of at full speed. Hey, when you hit

330
00:16:35,880 --> 00:16:37,960
Speaker 1: this corner out take three hard steps with a corner.

331
00:16:38,040 --> 00:16:39,760
Speaker 1: Don't looks at your angle, and I'll put it out

332
00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:41,400
Speaker 1: there for you. But if you peek and it's a

333
00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:44,120
Speaker 1: little bit off. Those guys that are speed guys. It's

334
00:16:44,680 --> 00:16:46,880
Speaker 1: if you have a great feel for him, which obviously

335
00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:48,760
Speaker 1: all of us are hoping they're going to step in

336
00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:52,000
Speaker 1: day one and go right back to college. There's just

337
00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:54,160
Speaker 1: you can play at a different speed, at different level

338
00:16:54,160 --> 00:16:57,400
Speaker 1: of different you know understanding of what this guy's going

339
00:16:57,440 --> 00:17:00,800
Speaker 1: to do. That there's no adjustment period versus you know,

340
00:17:01,280 --> 00:17:03,720
Speaker 1: obviously we saw some growing pains last year with Kyler

341
00:17:03,760 --> 00:17:06,960
Speaker 1: and aj right like, there's there's sometimes the acclamation phase

342
00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:08,960
Speaker 1: that you still go through, and that's why we're excited

343
00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:11,960
Speaker 1: to see year two of those guys working together. And

344
00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:14,800
Speaker 1: some guys just take more time. I mean another frame

345
00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:17,240
Speaker 1: of references. Everybody thought Odell showed up to Cleveland and

346
00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:18,320
Speaker 1: he was just going to be the guy. And he's

347
00:17:18,320 --> 00:17:21,320
Speaker 1: so easy to throw too. He is so silky smooth

348
00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:23,600
Speaker 1: in and out of breaks and adding stuff to things

349
00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:26,800
Speaker 1: that sometimes it is difficult because his angle, even though

350
00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:29,679
Speaker 1: he's quote unquote wide open, his angle might be different

351
00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:32,480
Speaker 1: than what you're expecting. And you have such a small

352
00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:34,960
Speaker 1: art margin of air in this league to be able

353
00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:37,359
Speaker 1: to have to get the ball out with anticipation. From

354
00:17:37,359 --> 00:17:41,200
Speaker 1: a quarterbacks perspective, that certain guys are more difficult versus

355
00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:43,360
Speaker 1: the ease of guys that can just take the top

356
00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:44,880
Speaker 1: off a coverage and say, okay, well, I know I'm

357
00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:47,080
Speaker 1: not gonna outthrow his arm because he can run for days.

358
00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:52,520
Speaker 1: Eleven touchdowns of twenty or more yards since twenty nineteen.

359
00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:55,240
Speaker 1: That's what Mark keys Brown brings to this offense. But

360
00:17:55,320 --> 00:17:57,680
Speaker 1: a lot of speculation. We haven't seen it with the

361
00:17:57,720 --> 00:18:01,240
Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals earlier though, Mark keys Brown on the Big

362
00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:05,600
Speaker 1: Red Rage on what the Cardinals and Cardinal fans can expect.

363
00:18:06,080 --> 00:18:07,919
Speaker 1: I spent a lot of big plays. I mean, I

364
00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:10,480
Speaker 1: play with a lot of passion, a lot of excitement.

365
00:18:10,960 --> 00:18:13,840
Speaker 1: I haven't even showcase anything I really could do in

366
00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:16,359
Speaker 1: the NFL yet, whatever the team has me to do,

367
00:18:16,400 --> 00:18:18,160
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do. And that's what I did in Baltimore.

368
00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:21,359
Speaker 1: And you know, I'm very excited the potential that I

369
00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:23,879
Speaker 1: can I can do in this offense. So Marcus Brown

370
00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:28,800
Speaker 1: Darren is the one gigantic new piece to the offensive puzzle.

371
00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:31,880
Speaker 1: According to reports, another piece is going to be added

372
00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:34,960
Speaker 1: to the running backs room, and Darryl Williams how that

373
00:18:35,040 --> 00:18:37,560
Speaker 1: affects things with James Connor. Do you have that one

374
00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:40,360
Speaker 1: to punch or is it more James Connor and then

375
00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:43,919
Speaker 1: all of a sudden Williams becomes the backup if needed.

376
00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:47,520
Speaker 1: How much does that running back room look right now

377
00:18:47,640 --> 00:18:50,560
Speaker 1: as compared to what we might see come week one.

378
00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:53,639
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously you don't bring back James Connor and

379
00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:55,840
Speaker 1: give him the kind of contract you did without thinking

380
00:18:55,840 --> 00:18:57,840
Speaker 1: you're gonna lean on him. But I mean, we've we've

381
00:18:57,840 --> 00:19:01,520
Speaker 1: seen this over and over the last few years, and

382
00:19:01,640 --> 00:19:04,120
Speaker 1: even going back to Drew's time. I mean, the great

383
00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:06,560
Speaker 1: year the Cardinals had in twenty fifteen, they went through

384
00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:10,240
Speaker 1: Andre Ellington and Chris Johnson and David Johnson, and they

385
00:19:10,320 --> 00:19:14,080
Speaker 1: needed all of those guys that year because that's the position.

386
00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:18,000
Speaker 1: So I mean, they're probably at some point gonna need

387
00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:21,680
Speaker 1: at Darryl Williams. They might need Keyante Ingram, they might

388
00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:24,520
Speaker 1: need Jonathan Ward. We don't know kind of where Eno

389
00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:27,520
Speaker 1: Benjamin fits. Well. I'm more curious of how this sorts

390
00:19:27,520 --> 00:19:30,600
Speaker 1: out if there's no injuries in training camp, how it

391
00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:32,960
Speaker 1: sorts out in terms of what the depth chart looks

392
00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:35,800
Speaker 1: like and who they keep on the roster. But beyond that,

393
00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:38,200
Speaker 1: I'm guessing whoever it does stick around is going to

394
00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:40,760
Speaker 1: find a way on the field. At some point, not

395
00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:42,959
Speaker 1: just because of the rules that they might have if

396
00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:46,679
Speaker 1: everybody's healthy, but in the case that somebody might not

397
00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:50,040
Speaker 1: be healthy, it's gonna be a crowded running back room

398
00:19:50,119 --> 00:19:53,919
Speaker 1: with Daryl Williams when that signing becomes official again. According

399
00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:56,720
Speaker 1: to reports, he's agreed to terms. The other interesting dynamic

400
00:19:56,760 --> 00:20:00,600
Speaker 1: here offensively is a full offseason. Was zach Ert in

401
00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:03,640
Speaker 1: the fold and how much does that help not only

402
00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:06,320
Speaker 1: mitigate the loss of DeAndre Hopkins the first six games,

403
00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:10,400
Speaker 1: but just make this offense overall better from start to finish,

404
00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:13,080
Speaker 1: as opposed to the great start last year and then

405
00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:16,680
Speaker 1: falling off the cliff at the end of the season. Yeah,

406
00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:19,200
Speaker 1: you know, I think anytime you get the nucleus to

407
00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:21,840
Speaker 1: stay together, and you know, playing a little bit off

408
00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:24,480
Speaker 1: with Darren was saying, you know what you have in

409
00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:26,560
Speaker 1: James Connor. You went out and you paid a premium

410
00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:29,040
Speaker 1: to get a running back of his caliber. So training

411
00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:31,480
Speaker 1: campbell or week one, you know what you're getting. You

412
00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:33,080
Speaker 1: just want to make sure that arrows trying in the

413
00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:35,160
Speaker 1: right direction. You look at you know, Benjamin, you look

414
00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:36,760
Speaker 1: at Jonathan Ward. They've been on the roster for a

415
00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:38,760
Speaker 1: couple of years now, you know what you have. Can

416
00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:40,879
Speaker 1: you motivate them to make them step their game up,

417
00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:43,040
Speaker 1: because now that room is so crowded. You start looking around,

418
00:20:43,119 --> 00:20:45,360
Speaker 1: you start adding up numbers who are like, hey, we're

419
00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:47,760
Speaker 1: all not going to be here week one. So those

420
00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:50,080
Speaker 1: guys you raise the level of competition running back. It's

421
00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:52,560
Speaker 1: just it's a battle of attrition and training camp. Guys

422
00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:54,879
Speaker 1: are tired, they're sore. I mean, there's a couple of

423
00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:58,679
Speaker 1: guys that I've seen that have rised or rose up

424
00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:02,080
Speaker 1: the ranks because other guys, you know, took the day off,

425
00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:04,320
Speaker 1: the Wally Pips of the world that were like, man,

426
00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:07,040
Speaker 1: you know, my arms are sore, my legs are sore.

427
00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:09,280
Speaker 1: You can't do that in the room. You cannot take

428
00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:11,280
Speaker 1: any time off. Now, going back to the other point

429
00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:14,520
Speaker 1: of getting guys like zach Ertz involved, and again I'll

430
00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:17,719
Speaker 1: lean heavily on having Colt McCoy here, the ability to

431
00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:20,119
Speaker 1: have him facilitate through the eyes of the lens of

432
00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:23,280
Speaker 1: what Cliff Kingsbury wants. He can now go because he's

433
00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:25,920
Speaker 1: been here, zach Ertz has been here. They know exactly

434
00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:28,479
Speaker 1: what the coach wants. Being professionals, being able to do

435
00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:31,720
Speaker 1: that take the ownership within their own room. Zach can

436
00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:34,240
Speaker 1: now help out every tight end because he knows what's

437
00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:36,840
Speaker 1: going on. He's an extension of the coaching staff. And

438
00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:39,040
Speaker 1: when you find guys that are playing at a Pro

439
00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:41,359
Speaker 1: Bowl caliber level on top of being able to be

440
00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:43,760
Speaker 1: that added the mension as a coach. It's such a

441
00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:47,160
Speaker 1: premium to have this time of year because now you're

442
00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:49,639
Speaker 1: getting him, everybody up to speed, everybody's pulling in the

443
00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:52,520
Speaker 1: same direction, and you have the ability to adapt and

444
00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:56,480
Speaker 1: change because the foundation is so strong. The one question mark,

445
00:21:56,600 --> 00:21:59,120
Speaker 1: at least that I can forecast, Karen, when you look

446
00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:02,640
Speaker 1: at the offense as far as you're eleven starters, is

447
00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:05,680
Speaker 1: what happens at right guard? Is it Will her Nand?

448
00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:07,919
Speaker 1: Is who the team side? Could it be one of

449
00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:10,880
Speaker 1: these two young draft picks. Is it someone nuts on

450
00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:15,360
Speaker 1: the roster? They do have numbers, But again, training camp

451
00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:16,960
Speaker 1: is going to sort a lot of this stuff out.

452
00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:19,200
Speaker 1: But I would think you don't go out and get

453
00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:21,160
Speaker 1: will her Nand is without at least saying all right,

454
00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:23,719
Speaker 1: maybe it's not an inc but in pencil he's our

455
00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:26,199
Speaker 1: starting right guard. I mean, I think that would be

456
00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:28,239
Speaker 1: the leader in the clubhouse now just because of what

457
00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:30,240
Speaker 1: you just said. But I think there's a lot to

458
00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:33,720
Speaker 1: be sorted out there. I mean, I think Calvin Beecham

459
00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:35,880
Speaker 1: is going to be your starter right tackle, but I'm

460
00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:39,080
Speaker 1: not completely ruling out the idea that Josh Jones, who

461
00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:42,399
Speaker 1: they definitely would rather have a tackle, possibly could be

462
00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:48,040
Speaker 1: that guy. You know. And again, the thing that we

463
00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:51,040
Speaker 1: all talk about when we do all this speculation is

464
00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:56,320
Speaker 1: we're assuming everybody ends up healthies, and unfortunately teams don't

465
00:22:56,440 --> 00:22:59,439
Speaker 1: end up healthy. Usually there's one or two things that

466
00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:03,440
Speaker 1: happened in any camp. You're like, Okay, that's that wasn't expected.

467
00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:05,760
Speaker 1: We weren't We were hoping that that wasn't going to happen.

468
00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:08,080
Speaker 1: Now I'm not saying that that happens on the offensive line.

469
00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:11,680
Speaker 1: But again, you've got older guys that I'm intrigued by

470
00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:16,080
Speaker 1: the two drafted guards. But as I've said on some

471
00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:19,200
Speaker 1: other platforms, it's weird for this year's draft a little bit.

472
00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:23,160
Speaker 1: With the Cardinals because of the way it happened they had.

473
00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:26,160
Speaker 1: They had the same number of picks that you normally

474
00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:29,160
Speaker 1: would have, but because they didn't have the fourth rounder

475
00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:31,640
Speaker 1: and the fifth rounder, we all talk about these later

476
00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:35,879
Speaker 1: picks like we assume that they came earlier and they didn't.

477
00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:38,159
Speaker 1: I mean, in any other draft you're talking about sixth

478
00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:41,240
Speaker 1: and seventh rounders which might have a harder time sticking,

479
00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:43,840
Speaker 1: and you would talk about them that way, and instead

480
00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:46,680
Speaker 1: we look at them through a different prism because they

481
00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:48,760
Speaker 1: just happened to be the first names off the board.

482
00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:52,399
Speaker 1: And you know, Marquis Hayes, you know, hopefully he can

483
00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:54,960
Speaker 1: do something, but that's a seventh round pick. Usually you

484
00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:57,960
Speaker 1: don't have a whole lot of high expectations for a

485
00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:00,480
Speaker 1: seventh round pick. Lucida Smith a little bit different. But

486
00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:02,720
Speaker 1: I like the idea that they're trying in the center

487
00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:04,879
Speaker 1: because I think at this point they could use somebody

488
00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:07,760
Speaker 1: behind Rodney Hudson, because again, when you talk about health

489
00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:09,800
Speaker 1: and you talk about a guy who's getting older, you

490
00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:11,600
Speaker 1: don't know exactly what you might be able to get

491
00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:14,080
Speaker 1: out of Rodney Hudson. This year, those Day three picks

492
00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:18,560
Speaker 1: have been elevated because of the gap between your pick

493
00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:21,600
Speaker 1: in the third round and then no picks and rounds

494
00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:24,240
Speaker 1: four and five. I think that's how people are looking

495
00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:25,880
Speaker 1: at it. When you've got to kind of remember we're

496
00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:29,200
Speaker 1: still talking about six and seventh round picks again right

497
00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:33,200
Speaker 1: now as we speak here at the end of May speculation,

498
00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:36,600
Speaker 1: still a lot of time between now and September eleventh,

499
00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:38,359
Speaker 1: but that's what we do here on the Cardinals Red

500
00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:41,119
Speaker 1: Sea Report, presented by a Sea geek. Get your seats

501
00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:43,359
Speaker 1: in a seats and if you want a seat to

502
00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:48,040
Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals games this year, season tickets available atasy cardinals

503
00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:52,200
Speaker 1: dot com slash season for more information. We've had halftime

504
00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:54,960
Speaker 1: here on the Cardinals Red Seat Report. When we come

505
00:24:54,960 --> 00:25:00,399
Speaker 1: back defense and the biggest question mark on defense, those

506
00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:04,400
Speaker 1: two young inside linebackers a conversation that will not end

507
00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:08,480
Speaker 1: anytime soon until the regular season begins. Craig rail and

508
00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:11,320
Speaker 1: Drew Stanton and Dared Urban here on the Arizona Cardinals

509
00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:24,800
Speaker 1: Radio Network hands it off, no running room, off the

510
00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:27,640
Speaker 1: right side and back of loss up two on the play.

511
00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:31,080
Speaker 1: Saban Collins the first guy there, and that is a

512
00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:35,560
Speaker 1: big man coming down from the week's side, shooting the gap.

513
00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:39,600
Speaker 1: Saban Collins again throws over the middle, tipped into the

514
00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:41,560
Speaker 1: air and in complaint he was going for his tight

515
00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:45,440
Speaker 1: end path was off the mark. Xavan Collins at coverage

516
00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:49,520
Speaker 1: that time and it's fourth down Saban Collins bats that

517
00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:52,840
Speaker 1: fall into the air with all of that great lank

518
00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:55,800
Speaker 1: Us check in motion. It is a quarterback drop the middle.

519
00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:59,760
Speaker 1: Lance's head drives the legs forward, Gonna be close. The

520
00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:03,000
Speaker 1: forty nine ers are short Saban Collins with the tackle.

521
00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:08,160
Speaker 1: Saban Collins, the rookie at two sixty playing downhill, came

522
00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:14,680
Speaker 1: in and laid some lumper baby flashes of Zaven Collins

523
00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:18,919
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty one. Need to see more consistency just

524
00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:21,320
Speaker 1: off for one. Need to see him on the field

525
00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:24,840
Speaker 1: to begin with. And the Cardinals do expect Savan Collins

526
00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:28,560
Speaker 1: to be that starting inside linebacker. We'll see what happens,

527
00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:32,520
Speaker 1: but now is when that work is put in. Isaiah Simmons,

528
00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:35,960
Speaker 1: I'll also you sign those or you draft those two

529
00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:39,199
Speaker 1: early in the first round. You expect them to be

530
00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:41,960
Speaker 1: here not just a handful of years, but maybe up

531
00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:46,440
Speaker 1: to nine, ten, eleven, twelve years anchors within that defense.

532
00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:48,920
Speaker 1: As we welcome back here, the Cardinals read Seat report

533
00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:51,760
Speaker 1: presented by Sea Kiek. Get your seats in a seats

534
00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:54,520
Speaker 1: Craig ReLU, Drew Stanton, and Darren Urban as we talk

535
00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:57,800
Speaker 1: about the defense, and specifically Drew about those two young

536
00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:01,880
Speaker 1: inside linebackers. We did see Isaiah Simmons make that jump

537
00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:04,880
Speaker 1: from a year one to year two. Now the expectation

538
00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:08,000
Speaker 1: is and he has his own expectation talking about Zamon

539
00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:11,200
Speaker 1: Collins to make that jump from year one to year two.

540
00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:14,679
Speaker 1: The good news is he has a full offseason, which

541
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:18,520
Speaker 1: Isaiah Simmons did not have the luxury of going into

542
00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:20,720
Speaker 1: his second year. Yeah. I mean, I think anytime that

543
00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:22,800
Speaker 1: you can just see stuff and you're going at a

544
00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:25,680
Speaker 1: slower pace in diagnosing it and adapting and adjusting on

545
00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:28,520
Speaker 1: the fly, I mean sometimes when this defense struggled is

546
00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:30,840
Speaker 1: when they could not adjust to the shifts, the motions,

547
00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:33,280
Speaker 1: the different things, and guys were not having the gap

548
00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:35,440
Speaker 1: integrity the other I feel like I used a nauseum

549
00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:39,240
Speaker 1: last year with Rob Frederickson, so in saying that, right,

550
00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:41,520
Speaker 1: a lot of that the honus is on the middle

551
00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:45,040
Speaker 1: linebacker or the sticker helmet to be able to call

552
00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:47,680
Speaker 1: adjust an adapt and it's a lot to get thrown

553
00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:49,359
Speaker 1: at you early on. I mean, you talk about it,

554
00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:50,720
Speaker 1: and we've talked about it when we're going through the

555
00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:52,919
Speaker 1: combine the process of what these rookies have to go

556
00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:55,120
Speaker 1: through just to get to the opportunity to play football

557
00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:58,919
Speaker 1: and then learn a defense of this sophistication. It can

558
00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:01,720
Speaker 1: be overwhelming, and I think you'd get some veteran guys.

559
00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:04,359
Speaker 1: You know, they replaced one veteran with another, but a

560
00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:07,040
Speaker 1: guy that's really smart, cerebral linebackers that can help pour

561
00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:09,840
Speaker 1: into him. You want veteran guys that can help younger

562
00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:12,480
Speaker 1: guys out that have an immense skill set. So getting

563
00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:14,480
Speaker 1: these guys on the same page again, you're talking about

564
00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:17,359
Speaker 1: Isaiah Simmons being in the system for another year, his

565
00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:20,160
Speaker 1: ability to line up and adjust and adapt. I mean,

566
00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:22,600
Speaker 1: all three of these linebackers I think can be on

567
00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:24,720
Speaker 1: the field together too, So maybe you're taking some of

568
00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:27,520
Speaker 1: the play calling duties off of him. You have to

569
00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:30,240
Speaker 1: find ways to get both of these guys to play

570
00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:32,639
Speaker 1: into their natural ability at the position that they were

571
00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:35,720
Speaker 1: drafted for. And they can recavioc a lot of different ways.

572
00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:38,320
Speaker 1: You've got to manufacture a pass rush. Savan can do that.

573
00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:41,400
Speaker 1: So this can look so many things, but the foundation

574
00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:44,320
Speaker 1: will be so much stronger headed into year two for

575
00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:47,600
Speaker 1: him because of the variables that he had to figure

576
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:50,280
Speaker 1: out early on last year are already set in stones.

577
00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:54,080
Speaker 1: A lot's been made about who wasn't here during the

578
00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:57,640
Speaker 1: first week of OTAs, But I think it's more important

579
00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:01,800
Speaker 1: on who is here. And Zaven Collins has been here

580
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:04,040
Speaker 1: not only in OTAs but also during the off season

581
00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:07,040
Speaker 1: strength and conditioning program. And Darren, you had a chance

582
00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:10,280
Speaker 1: to speak. Was Zavan collins first time this offseason anyone

583
00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:12,640
Speaker 1: has spoken to him since last season? Ended on a

584
00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:16,120
Speaker 1: story on easy Cardinals dot com May ninth about his

585
00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:18,760
Speaker 1: rookie season. I thought he was very honest and upfront

586
00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:22,280
Speaker 1: about the ups and the downs and utilizing this time

587
00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:25,880
Speaker 1: now where things can be at a slower pace, where

588
00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:28,400
Speaker 1: you can sit there and run a play and then

589
00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:31,080
Speaker 1: spend the next twenty thirty minutes talking with your position

590
00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:33,760
Speaker 1: coach or advanced Joseph, all right, this went right, this

591
00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:36,280
Speaker 1: went wrong. Here's how we can get better as opposed

592
00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:41,360
Speaker 1: to within the game. You don't have that luxury. Yeah,

593
00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:43,320
Speaker 1: and Drew knows about this. I mean, one of the

594
00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:47,719
Speaker 1: cliches about players that come into this league is always

595
00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:51,400
Speaker 1: that first offseason after the rookie year is always supposed

596
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:53,120
Speaker 1: to be the big one because that rookie year, when

597
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:56,280
Speaker 1: you come in, you're swamped with a combine and trying

598
00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:59,400
Speaker 1: to figure out where you're gonna play and professionally and

599
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:01,840
Speaker 1: where you might be drafted and going through that whole

600
00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:04,120
Speaker 1: process and then trying to come in and learn and

601
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:06,080
Speaker 1: now you get the chance to kind of have it

602
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:08,920
Speaker 1: laid out. And you mentioned the fact Isaiah Simmons really

603
00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:11,880
Speaker 1: didn't get that chance last year was still kind of

604
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:15,080
Speaker 1: jacked up a little bit. Um. I think Zaban's in

605
00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:17,800
Speaker 1: a in a good headspace in terms of learning this stuff.

606
00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:21,160
Speaker 1: He's been here as far as I can tell, almost

607
00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:26,080
Speaker 1: every day, uh, you know, being around the coaches, getting

608
00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:29,600
Speaker 1: himself in shape, and obviously being out there on the

609
00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:31,480
Speaker 1: field when they've been able to be out on the field.

610
00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:33,800
Speaker 1: And there's a lot of pressure on him. And that's

611
00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:39,120
Speaker 1: that's the reality. And there's nobody that should apologize for that.

612
00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:41,800
Speaker 1: I mean, that's the reality of being a first round pick.

613
00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:43,760
Speaker 1: And that goes for both these guys. And I mean

614
00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:46,760
Speaker 1: you're sitting here talking about, Hey, maybe maybe these guys

615
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:50,120
Speaker 1: can be your anchors for a decade. And at this point,

616
00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:52,200
Speaker 1: I think the Cardinals would just be happy to know

617
00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:56,200
Speaker 1: that these two guys were good enough for this season. Um.

618
00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:59,760
Speaker 1: You know, even Isaiah Simmons still has has some ups

619
00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:03,040
Speaker 1: and downs in terms of doing what they're doing. I'm

620
00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:07,840
Speaker 1: curious to know how ultimately they get used. You know,

621
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:11,000
Speaker 1: Drew is mentioning, you know you need them to excel

622
00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:13,760
Speaker 1: in the positions they were drafted for, which was those

623
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:17,920
Speaker 1: two inside linebacker roles. But do you have Isaiah Simmons

624
00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:21,160
Speaker 1: come off the edge some more because you don't have

625
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:23,920
Speaker 1: Chandler Jones anymore? Might Zaven Collins do that once in

626
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:27,280
Speaker 1: a while? Will you use three quote unquote inside linebackers

627
00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:32,760
Speaker 1: sometimes whatever happens. I think these two guys need to

628
00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:35,880
Speaker 1: be on the field no matter what, because they're your

629
00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:38,040
Speaker 1: first round picks and you need to have that kind

630
00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:41,200
Speaker 1: of some solid production from them and they need to

631
00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:44,200
Speaker 1: learn sooner rather than later. And that's that's a lot

632
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:47,360
Speaker 1: on them, but that's the position they're in, and you know,

633
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:49,800
Speaker 1: for the Cardinals, hopefully that they're able to accomplish that

634
00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:52,960
Speaker 1: and putting that time in right now something JJ Watt

635
00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:55,760
Speaker 1: recently on the Dave Hash podcast spoke of as far

636
00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:59,400
Speaker 1: as with Collins and Simmons on making sure that they

637
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:02,760
Speaker 1: are successful as opposed to be in those first round

638
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:06,280
Speaker 1: question marks. Here with the Arizona Cardinals, I think it's

639
00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:07,960
Speaker 1: all about time you put in, and I think it's

640
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:12,920
Speaker 1: about repetition and just consistency. I think that the more

641
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:14,960
Speaker 1: time that you're able to commit to the job and

642
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:17,000
Speaker 1: that you're able to learn and grow, and the more

643
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:19,640
Speaker 1: time that you have to learn the playbook and the

644
00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:22,360
Speaker 1: plays and see as many looks as possible, whether it's

645
00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:25,400
Speaker 1: walk throughs, whether it's practice, whether it's offseason program, training camp,

646
00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:27,320
Speaker 1: whatever it may be. And being able to do those

647
00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:30,160
Speaker 1: things over and over and over again, that's when you

648
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:33,000
Speaker 1: really get good. I think that having an off season

649
00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:34,960
Speaker 1: program is going to help him a lot, because we

650
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:37,520
Speaker 1: haven't had one true offseason program for a few years,

651
00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:40,400
Speaker 1: especially since they've been in the league. You hope that

652
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:44,960
Speaker 1: those two can find footing by themselves and not have

653
00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:47,600
Speaker 1: to rely on someone else. Now, based off of the

654
00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:49,360
Speaker 1: fact that you don't have a Chandler Jones, maybe you

655
00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:52,680
Speaker 1: do run three inside linebackers with the third being Nick Vigil.

656
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:55,200
Speaker 1: You don't want to have what happened last year, where

657
00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:57,479
Speaker 1: you going with a plan and then all of a sudden,

658
00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:00,080
Speaker 1: here's Jordan Hicks and you can't get him off the

659
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:02,680
Speaker 1: field because you don't trust, as they have in college

660
00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:05,880
Speaker 1: that can't happen this season. Yeah, I mean especially we

661
00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:09,480
Speaker 1: know the mo of the teams in this division. They

662
00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:11,560
Speaker 1: want to run the football, they want to establish the run.

663
00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:14,360
Speaker 1: All three of these other teams are going to try

664
00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:17,160
Speaker 1: and do that. So if you take that away, that's

665
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:19,840
Speaker 1: the biggest key to trying to determine a victory on

666
00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:22,440
Speaker 1: that given Sunday or whatever day the game is. So

667
00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:25,360
Speaker 1: in saying that you need your two thumpers inside, you

668
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:27,440
Speaker 1: need your draft capital on the field working for you,

669
00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:30,240
Speaker 1: even if they are not great initially, that was the

670
00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:32,200
Speaker 1: time to put their hand to the fire because it

671
00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:34,120
Speaker 1: can't be the last week of the season and all

672
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:36,320
Speaker 1: of a sudden, you know, no offense to the other

673
00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:38,280
Speaker 1: linebackers that were out there and you're trying to go

674
00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:41,240
Speaker 1: big personnel. We're missing some guys that are everybody's sitting

675
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:43,120
Speaker 1: there scratching their head for but it was probably for

676
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:45,680
Speaker 1: a reason. Those excuses are out the window. Now. You

677
00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:47,680
Speaker 1: need guys on the field that are going to make

678
00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:50,560
Speaker 1: those plays for you, because, let's face it, they were

679
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:52,480
Speaker 1: drafted that high for a reason and they have to

680
00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:54,680
Speaker 1: have the wherewithal to go out there and it might

681
00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:56,280
Speaker 1: not always turn out well, but they got to be

682
00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:58,480
Speaker 1: at least out there in a position to be successful.

683
00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:01,680
Speaker 1: I'll see this Darren is. Avon Collins told you it

684
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:05,600
Speaker 1: was quote a blessing to have been mentioned by Jordan Hicks.

685
00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:08,719
Speaker 1: So it's not like there was any issues. Hicks. Just no,

686
00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:12,000
Speaker 1: he can't be here if he wants Avan Collins to

687
00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:14,280
Speaker 1: be the guy that you hope to be. The training

688
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:17,080
Speaker 1: wheels are off and they need to be off, and

689
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:21,200
Speaker 1: now it's time for Grants Joseph to give Avan the

690
00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:23,120
Speaker 1: push in the back. And let's see if the bike

691
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:26,960
Speaker 1: stays up and they are going to be some stumbles,

692
00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:30,239
Speaker 1: maybe little wobbly early on. Oh yeah, I was gonna

693
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:33,120
Speaker 1: say you recover with the bike reference there little stumbles.

694
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:40,080
Speaker 1: Oh you know, I didn't me training with We spoke

695
00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:44,520
Speaker 1: about JJ want of the episode thirty other Day Pash podcast.

696
00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:47,880
Speaker 1: Catch up on past episodes followed the Day Pash Podcast

697
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:51,360
Speaker 1: here via your preferred podcast provider. Get the litt updates

698
00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:55,080
Speaker 1: via Twitter at pash pot. This is the Arizona cardin

699
00:34:55,120 --> 00:35:00,759
Speaker 1: Oals Radio Network. Here we go, here we and getting

700
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:03,120
Speaker 1: this ball. Damn, I got bug him out here. He's

701
00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:05,560
Speaker 1: gotta tine it down on that unfollows if your number three,

702
00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:09,080
Speaker 1: because you gotta get over there. Let's go give me

703
00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:11,799
Speaker 1: that ball. Living with three, you get the same man.

704
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:20,000
Speaker 1: There's palm trees football paradise. That's right here. Come on,

705
00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:27,280
Speaker 1: we gotta catch that man. Catch the ball all day.

706
00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:29,399
Speaker 1: Bring it up, bring it up, bring it up. Hey,

707
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:31,400
Speaker 1: good job today, man, high energy, keep it up, man,

708
00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:36,120
Speaker 1: keep rolling team on three one two three Cardinals rookie

709
00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:40,680
Speaker 1: tight end Trey McBride miked up during rookie mini camp

710
00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:44,880
Speaker 1: and McBride the headliner, if you will, of the Cardinals

711
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:48,040
Speaker 1: eight member twenty twenty two draft class. And to your

712
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:51,319
Speaker 1: point earlier in the show here on the Cardinals Red

713
00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:53,440
Speaker 1: Seat report percent to buy a sea kiek get your

714
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:56,719
Speaker 1: seats and a seat Darren. Without a first round selection,

715
00:35:57,120 --> 00:36:01,279
Speaker 1: McBride has become that guy and you hope that he

716
00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:05,959
Speaker 1: does make an immediate impact, but he does have zach

717
00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:08,640
Speaker 1: Ertz in front of him. And he's also one of

718
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:11,560
Speaker 1: those players that you don't know when you have a

719
00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:14,600
Speaker 1: rookie how quickly you can get up to speed, whether

720
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:18,800
Speaker 1: that's week one, week eight, or maybe not until next season.

721
00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:23,799
Speaker 1: It's a it's a that whole situation is really fascinating

722
00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:26,680
Speaker 1: to me, to be honest, I mean they they're first

723
00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:28,520
Speaker 1: pick in the draft ends up being a tight end

724
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:32,879
Speaker 1: they felt like too good to pass up. Definitely, not

725
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:35,280
Speaker 1: just for twenty twenty two, but I think looking forward,

726
00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:38,200
Speaker 1: they had already resigned zach Ertz. Who's going to be

727
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:41,000
Speaker 1: your number one tight end? You know? Again, when I

728
00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:42,960
Speaker 1: think of Trey McBride, the first thing I think and

729
00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:44,640
Speaker 1: what he does this year, The first thing I think

730
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:48,360
Speaker 1: was again, Max Williams. Where's Max Williams with his rehab?

731
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:50,520
Speaker 1: How much is Max Williams going to be able to

732
00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:53,440
Speaker 1: give you, especially right on in the box. It's a

733
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:56,640
Speaker 1: it's a curious question because if Max Williams is where

734
00:36:57,200 --> 00:37:00,080
Speaker 1: he was at the beginning of last year, which I

735
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:01,520
Speaker 1: I don't know if he's gonna be able to be

736
00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:05,799
Speaker 1: right away, But if he is, then Tray McBride might

737
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:09,080
Speaker 1: just be playing a lot of special teams. But I

738
00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:10,920
Speaker 1: don't know where Max Williams is going to be, and

739
00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:13,719
Speaker 1: so you might need a lot of Tray McBride right

740
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:16,120
Speaker 1: out of the box to help you. I mean, he's

741
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:18,320
Speaker 1: not going to be what you need out of zach Ertz,

742
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:20,799
Speaker 1: but you're you're going to need that. I think in

743
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:22,640
Speaker 1: terms of what you want to do with his offense,

744
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:25,360
Speaker 1: maybe run a little bit more. I think Tray McBride

745
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:28,520
Speaker 1: ultimately they see him as somebody who might be a

746
00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:31,200
Speaker 1: little bit better of a blocker than zach Ertz. And

747
00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:34,399
Speaker 1: let's face it, if you have two tight ends out there,

748
00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:36,640
Speaker 1: you can disguise what you're doing a little bit more

749
00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:40,239
Speaker 1: than if you just run a lot of you know,

750
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:42,799
Speaker 1: ten personnel. There are a lot of question marks with

751
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:46,600
Speaker 1: any rookie, no matter where you're selected, first round, sixth round,

752
00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:49,160
Speaker 1: and whichever team. But when you're looking for a rookie

753
00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:52,279
Speaker 1: to make an immediate impact outside of the quarterback, where

754
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:54,080
Speaker 1: you basically handed the keys and said, all right, go

755
00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:57,320
Speaker 1: do your job with these eight players, whether it's McBride

756
00:37:57,440 --> 00:38:00,399
Speaker 1: or Keante Ingram as a running back, one of these

757
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:03,720
Speaker 1: young edge rushers, certainly there's a need at edge rushers,

758
00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:06,719
Speaker 1: so they're gonna be given a better, longer opportunity. But

759
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:09,279
Speaker 1: is there a is there a position drew where a

760
00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:12,319
Speaker 1: rookie can come in and say, all right, we expect

761
00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:14,919
Speaker 1: this much out of you week one, and you should

762
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:16,920
Speaker 1: be able to do it well. You know, as we

763
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:19,640
Speaker 1: were talking about markis Browner, when is he going to

764
00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:22,279
Speaker 1: be Hollywood to you? How many touchdowns does he need?

765
00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:25,080
Speaker 1: You know? I was having this discussion to day. I

766
00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:27,040
Speaker 1: don't know. I just don't feel like, Okay, yeah, you

767
00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:32,680
Speaker 1: don't know him, personal personal connection, okay, so and saying

768
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:35,200
Speaker 1: that so it just sounds weird. I just want to

769
00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:37,279
Speaker 1: know how to address the leman Hollywood, like, do you

770
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:39,799
Speaker 1: have a nickname? Drew? I mean no, nothing cool like that.

771
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:42,799
Speaker 1: See this by any means? So and saying that some

772
00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:45,080
Speaker 1: of these guys, right, there's challenges that go into each

773
00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:47,560
Speaker 1: and every position. Are running back. When you put the

774
00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:49,399
Speaker 1: ball in his hands, you are no longer coaching him.

775
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:51,400
Speaker 1: He's going there base off of that. He has certain

776
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:54,680
Speaker 1: launch points, there's holes that hit, there's keys within the

777
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:56,680
Speaker 1: run game that he's reading the backer the way a

778
00:38:56,719 --> 00:38:59,160
Speaker 1: defensive lineman goes all those things. I think that is

779
00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:01,440
Speaker 1: a position if he can learn protections and see the

780
00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:04,319
Speaker 1: whole picture, is a very capable spot to be put in,

781
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:06,319
Speaker 1: whether he's a third down back and he doesn't have

782
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:09,400
Speaker 1: to worry. There's so many little nuances pass rusher you

783
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:10,960
Speaker 1: would think, hey, it's like a wind up dollar. You

784
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:12,520
Speaker 1: just pull the chord and he goes in and tries

785
00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:14,839
Speaker 1: to get after the quarterback. That's one that's a little

786
00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:17,080
Speaker 1: bit easier. Tight end, there's a lot more nuances to it.

787
00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:18,960
Speaker 1: You've got to be able to run within the past game,

788
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:20,640
Speaker 1: you've got to be able to block within the run game,

789
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:22,879
Speaker 1: and those tight ends are asked to do a lot. Now.

790
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:26,040
Speaker 1: I don't think just by connecting dots based off of

791
00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:29,520
Speaker 1: only seeing it from the peripheral. They needed to go

792
00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:31,120
Speaker 1: out and make this pick, and they felt really good

793
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:34,560
Speaker 1: about the value of where he fell because obviously Max Williams,

794
00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:36,239
Speaker 1: he's not going to be the point that he's at

795
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:38,759
Speaker 1: and for them to not have to be pigeonholed into

796
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:41,680
Speaker 1: stain in a certain type of personnel or keep zach

797
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:45,600
Speaker 1: Ertz on the field NonStop, this gives them flexibility for

798
00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:48,799
Speaker 1: right now, for the portion of the season, and for

799
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:50,719
Speaker 1: many years to come. So I think the pick was

800
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:53,799
Speaker 1: a necessity when they got him where they got him,

801
00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:55,840
Speaker 1: and those are the positions that I think will be

802
00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:57,719
Speaker 1: a little bit more difficult. But again, you're drafting him

803
00:39:57,719 --> 00:39:59,400
Speaker 1: in the second round saying this guy's going to immediately

804
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:02,799
Speaker 1: help us pass rushers later in the draft, offensive linement later,

805
00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:05,759
Speaker 1: you know, down the line six, seventh round. Look, there's

806
00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:07,759
Speaker 1: nothing to saying they can't come in and compete right away.

807
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:10,719
Speaker 1: There's many undrafted guys that have started Week one. That's

808
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:13,600
Speaker 1: the impression they make that when they get here. That

809
00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:16,120
Speaker 1: lends you to believe that. But when you're investing in

810
00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:17,960
Speaker 1: a pick as high as the second round, third round,

811
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:21,080
Speaker 1: you're looking for them to contribute in some capacity right

812
00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:22,799
Speaker 1: off the bat. It's gonna be a lot harder for

813
00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:25,960
Speaker 1: those Day three picks to contribute. But Ingram does have

814
00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:29,320
Speaker 1: an opportunity. And again there's the reports that Darryl Williams

815
00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:32,680
Speaker 1: will be signed, so that complicates matters a little bit.

816
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:35,080
Speaker 1: But Ingram does have the size and the ability not

817
00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:37,520
Speaker 1: only to run but catch the ball out of the backfield.

818
00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:40,799
Speaker 1: But when it comes to running between the tackles or

819
00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:44,080
Speaker 1: bouncing to the outside, Ingram on the Big Red Rage

820
00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:46,440
Speaker 1: with Paul Calvici. As far as what kind of running

821
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:50,200
Speaker 1: style heat prefers. If you're in the open field and

822
00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:52,640
Speaker 1: you're one on one with a dB, would you rather

823
00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:54,799
Speaker 1: run around him, give him the head, fake the head

824
00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:58,120
Speaker 1: and shoulders or lower the boom? What's your mentality? I

825
00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:00,839
Speaker 1: would say the pins on the site because I love

826
00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:04,520
Speaker 1: laying the boom. I love taking a person's wheel, you know,

827
00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:08,880
Speaker 1: over and over and over over over again. You know,

828
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:11,560
Speaker 1: so I would just say, pending on the situation. But

829
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:14,600
Speaker 1: if it's five sacreds left and we down about three year,

830
00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:17,680
Speaker 1: of course you're gonna over. I'm gonna go with the

831
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:22,280
Speaker 1: other sixth round selection and the draft offensive lineman Lucida Smith.

832
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:26,320
Speaker 1: This is another player that again you talk to coaches,

833
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:30,000
Speaker 1: you talk to front office personnel, specifically Quentin Harris on

834
00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:33,080
Speaker 1: the Day Patch podcast were recently called Smith a steel

835
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:35,719
Speaker 1: as far as an offensive guard. But it's a sixth

836
00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:38,400
Speaker 1: round selection, Darren, And how much can you ask of

837
00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:43,080
Speaker 1: a sixth round pick unless you know, maybe they do

838
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:46,319
Speaker 1: find that guy that steel in the sixth round and

839
00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:49,120
Speaker 1: he's able to contribute. But right now he's behind the

840
00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:52,759
Speaker 1: Will Hernandez as far as open spots on that offensive line.

841
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:54,920
Speaker 1: I mean, like Drew said, I mean, we're gonna get

842
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:57,000
Speaker 1: into training camp. A little bit of ota is a

843
00:41:57,040 --> 00:41:58,799
Speaker 1: little bit of mini camp. But when we get to

844
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:02,120
Speaker 1: training camp, or gonna know very quickly if he can

845
00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:06,960
Speaker 1: make some those kinds of strides that quickly, and you know,

846
00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:09,400
Speaker 1: I don't know if he's going to be able to

847
00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:12,279
Speaker 1: make that push. But I don't think the bar is

848
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:14,440
Speaker 1: so high, With all due respect to Will Hernandez, I

849
00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:16,040
Speaker 1: don't think the bar is so high that it would

850
00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:19,840
Speaker 1: be impossible to have something like that happen. You know, again,

851
00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:22,279
Speaker 1: the offensive line is in a position and we've talked

852
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:26,000
Speaker 1: about this before, Craig. You know, other than Rodney Hudson,

853
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:29,840
Speaker 1: all those other guys that are presumed starters on the

854
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:32,120
Speaker 1: offensive line are going to the last year of their contract.

855
00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:36,200
Speaker 1: I mean, there's there's a lot of unknowns beyond this season.

856
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:40,360
Speaker 1: So when we start talking about Licida Smith or Marquis

857
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:43,480
Speaker 1: Hayes or any of these guys, even Josh Jones, we

858
00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:47,680
Speaker 1: you know there there's like future offensive lines that have

859
00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:50,640
Speaker 1: to be considered at some point of who's going to

860
00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:54,080
Speaker 1: be out there blocking for presumably Kyler Murray beyond just

861
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:57,160
Speaker 1: this year. So you know, I like the idea of

862
00:42:57,280 --> 00:43:00,359
Speaker 1: Lucida Smith maybe being a steel there. I like the idea,

863
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:03,280
Speaker 1: like I said before, of him potentially working at center,

864
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:08,520
Speaker 1: because that's another position that has gone. They haven't gone

865
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:10,640
Speaker 1: and really gone after anybody. They've tried to make a

866
00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:12,640
Speaker 1: couple of draft picks in the past, they didn't pan out.

867
00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:15,600
Speaker 1: They got Rodney Hudson. I think it's clear that we're

868
00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:17,640
Speaker 1: getting to the point where how much more does Rodney

869
00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:20,480
Speaker 1: Hudson left having the tank? So you're going to have

870
00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:23,359
Speaker 1: to do something. Sean Harlow a guy that you know

871
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:26,319
Speaker 1: is going to be your backup center, don't I don't know?

872
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:28,320
Speaker 1: Well right now he is, at least according to the

873
00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:30,960
Speaker 1: good coach, although he did add right now he added

874
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:32,920
Speaker 1: two words, win a king. Somebody else has got to

875
00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:34,759
Speaker 1: be there. If it's not Sean Harlow, though, you got

876
00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:37,520
Speaker 1: to have a backup and maybe a backup to the backup.

877
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:40,480
Speaker 1: But when you look at the rookie class, to me, Drew,

878
00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:43,600
Speaker 1: it's Cameron Thomas, it's my j Sanders. The need at

879
00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:47,040
Speaker 1: edge rusher where you can say, all right, go get

880
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:50,480
Speaker 1: the quarterback yet because that is the biggest hole to

881
00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:53,520
Speaker 1: me still on this defense as far as who's going

882
00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:56,040
Speaker 1: to be that guy opposite Marcus Golden. Yeah, And you

883
00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:58,680
Speaker 1: can manufacture pressure different ways. I mean, Vance is a

884
00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:00,879
Speaker 1: very good at calculating thing and being able to break

885
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:02,920
Speaker 1: things down. But you want the luxury of say I've

886
00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:04,799
Speaker 1: only got I've only got a rush for here right,

887
00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:06,960
Speaker 1: and I can drop seven into coverage. I can change

888
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:08,680
Speaker 1: the picture. I can change the look and get home.

889
00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:11,200
Speaker 1: For the teams that are really good, the defenses that

890
00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:13,680
Speaker 1: are very good and elite, they're getting pressure with four.

891
00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:16,520
Speaker 1: So that's really what you want in a perfect world.

892
00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:19,160
Speaker 1: But there's a lot of questions to be had out there,

893
00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:20,840
Speaker 1: and that's what training in the camps will all about.

894
00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:24,120
Speaker 1: A lot of questions. We'll get those answers, hopefully sooner

895
00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:26,920
Speaker 1: rather than later, but certainly a lot to talk about,

896
00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:30,080
Speaker 1: which we do each and every Tuesday here on the

897
00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:33,440
Speaker 1: Cardinals Red Seat Report, presented by SIKI. Get your seats

898
00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:35,560
Speaker 1: in a seat. By the way, Cameron tom is since

899
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:40,000
Speaker 1: our last show signed, so now the entire twenty twenty

900
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:44,840
Speaker 1: two Arizona Cardinals draft class has put the hen to paper,

901
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:48,759
Speaker 1: all of them under contracts for the next four seasons.

902
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:52,000
Speaker 1: Special thanks to those behind the scenes, our senior broadcast

903
00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:55,400
Speaker 1: manager and producer Jim I'm Hydro technical director, Lauren Coble

904
00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:58,359
Speaker 1: for Drew Stanton, Darren Urban, I'm Craig Roya, Lou We'll

905
00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:01,000
Speaker 1: talk to you in one week's time. It's the Cardinals

906
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:12,479
Speaker 1: Red Sea Reports on the Arizona Cardinals Radio Network. You've

907
00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:15,879
Speaker 1: been listening to The Cardinals Red Sea Report fifteen ten

908
00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:20,720
Speaker 1: five touchdown, zach Ertz, Buda Baker with the sack, strip

909
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:25,320
Speaker 1: the ball, Mary's gonna score touchdown, Oh Baby. The Cardinals

910
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:28,239
Speaker 1: Red Sea Report is brought to you by the Arizona

911
00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:32,439
Speaker 1: Cardinals mobile app visit asy Cardinals dot com, slash app,

912
00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:37,759
Speaker 1: touchdown Cardinals whim. This has been an exclusive presentation of

913
00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:39,840
Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals Football Club