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Speaker 1: Hi, everybody. Welcome to Packers Unscripted from Packers dot Com.

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Speaker 1: I am Mike Spofford and he is my trusted colleague

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Speaker 1: Wes Hodkowits. We're coming to you here from our studios

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Speaker 1: at lambeau Field and West as we continue our post

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Speaker 1: draft week recapping the Packers two thousand eighteen draft. Remember

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Speaker 1: one of the shows we did before the draft where

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Speaker 1: I sort of fired a bunch of questions at you

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Speaker 1: and we both gave our answers and we kind of

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Speaker 1: rattled through the show. Well, our producer, Marvin, he thought

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Speaker 1: that was one of our best shows I've ever done.

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Speaker 1: So I thought, why not do a show like that

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Speaker 1: in the post draft world. So I've got my list

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Speaker 1: of questions here, I'm gonna throw them at you. You

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Speaker 1: give your answer, I'll give my answer. We'll see how

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Speaker 1: many we get through here. And then twenty two or

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Speaker 1: so minutes, right off the bat, which of these eleven

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Speaker 1: draft picks for the Green Bay Packers do you believe

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Speaker 1: will have the biggest impact in back on the hot

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Speaker 1: seat over here. Yeah, uh, you know, Jarry Alexander. I

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Speaker 1: think is the easy answer to this one, Mike, just

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Speaker 1: because I think with his skill set, being able to

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Speaker 1: play outside, being able to play inside, there's just a

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Speaker 1: more direct path for him getting onto the field if

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Speaker 1: you're a boundary type corner We even saw it to

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Speaker 1: some extent with Kevin King last year. It's more difficult

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Speaker 1: a lot of times it takes a more veteran player

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Speaker 1: to excel out there. You saw Casey Hayward excel in

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Speaker 1: that position. Mike A. Hyde in two thousand thirteen, when

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Speaker 1: Casey Hayward got hurt, ended up manning that position quite

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Speaker 1: a bit. So I think there's probably more of a

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Speaker 1: direct outlet for Alexander to make a Day one contribution.

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Speaker 1: But but even still, as we've talked about a million times, cornerback,

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Speaker 1: it's a position that takes time to learn and develop.

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Speaker 1: You can play off your instincts, you can play off

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Speaker 1: your natural athleticism, but you need to pair that with

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Speaker 1: technique and knowledge of the defense. So that'll be his

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Speaker 1: number one hurdle when he comes to Green Bay, when he,

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Speaker 1: you know, gets involved in this. Mike Petton defense, But

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Speaker 1: I just think given where he was taken, the amount

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Speaker 1: of ability that he has, I think he's probably the

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Speaker 1: surest bet to be able to make a contribution right

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Speaker 1: off the battle. Yeah, that's a good call. And I

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Speaker 1: like what you said to about the difference between slot

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Speaker 1: corner and boundary corner for young guys, especially in the

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Speaker 1: sense that a lot of times defensive coordinators can be

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Speaker 1: a little hesitant to put a rookie matched up against

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Speaker 1: a number one receiver type out there on the boundary.

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Speaker 1: That's sort of a job, an assignment that you that

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Speaker 1: that evolves. My answer to this question comes with a

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Speaker 1: think he could have a really big impact on this

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Speaker 1: for the punting job. And I'm not saying he's going

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Speaker 1: think this is going to be quite a competition, and

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Speaker 1: Justin Vogel is certainly not going to give up his

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Speaker 1: job without a heck of a fight. But you look

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Speaker 1: at the pedigree of J. K. Scott in college at Alabama,

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Speaker 1: all the big games, the bright spotlight type of games

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Speaker 1: that he punted in, and how he performed and how

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Speaker 1: you know, limiting if not eliminating most returns. I think

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Speaker 1: this team again if he wins the job. Yeah. And

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Speaker 1: the thing that really stands out to me about him

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Speaker 1: we've heard it a million times, those long lever type hunters.

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Speaker 1: per quickly with what the Packers have been looking for

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Speaker 1: that the Packers have had in the last twenty five years.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Craig Hendrick man that spot for a few years.

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Speaker 1: that position. Alright, Question number two, which of these draft

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Speaker 1: not going to be a stretch to put that much

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Speaker 1: thirty eight and was considered, other than the injuries, one

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to Packers Unscripted. Mike Spofford in this chair,

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Speaker 1: Wes Hodkowitz in that one the hot seat again, some

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Speaker 1: more questions come in your way. Okay, best value pick

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Speaker 1: The fact that you know, as as I talked about

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Speaker 1: Some other things fall into line, but he has great size. Uh.

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Speaker 1: he went into that last day. It wasn't like he

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Speaker 1: And I've st Brown gonna be really motivated to show

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Speaker 1: all right. Most surprising pick of this draft for the

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Speaker 1: Packers in your opinion, Oh, Mike, that's a tough one.

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Speaker 1: Most surprising pick. I guess if you're gonna tell me

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Speaker 1: and I will I will end this with saying, on

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Speaker 1: a much more lighthearted note, um that one of my

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Speaker 1: favorite non packers moments of this draft was seeing the

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Speaker 1: the pirate ship at Raymond James Stadium and all the

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Speaker 1: fourth round for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, and the parent

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Speaker 1: like what, like what is this? Like everybody was everybody

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Speaker 1: be this wonderful, you know, made for television moment. I

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Speaker 1: just got to kick out of the whole thing. Six

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Speaker 1: a bigger bust than that parrot, especially. I mean, I

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Speaker 1: don't know if you remember that when they announced that

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Speaker 1: that was going to happen. The list of unique places

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Speaker 1: was like a national sensation. Oh yeah, it was a

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Speaker 1: huge story. Is the parent going to get the pick right?

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Speaker 1: Is it gonna work out well? Is he gonna be

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Speaker 1: a backup plan? And didn't even try at least tried? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: complete epic fail, as my kids would say. All right,

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Speaker 1: with that, we're going to sign off on Packers Unscripted,

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Speaker 1: but be sure to follow all of our coverage of

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Speaker 1: the team on Packers dot com on Twitter. You can

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Speaker 1: still find him at west Hod I'm at Mike Spofford

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Speaker 1: at Packers for the team account. Thanks for tuning in, everybody.

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