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Speaker 1: Let's hit the inside scoop with e FT senior insider

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Speaker 1: Ken Rosenthal making us jealous outside hopping a camps. Ken,

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Speaker 1: great to talk to you, and we saw the big

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Speaker 1: article you put out this morning laying out some counters

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Speaker 1: to just a straight hard salary cap. So what do

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Speaker 1: you have for us lay it out?

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Speaker 2: Well, the purpose of the article, Scott, was just to

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Speaker 2: really say a salary cap is not the only solution here.

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Speaker 2: It seems that the way the conversation is gone in

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Speaker 2: recent weeks, that's what people are thinking, Well, it's a

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Speaker 2: cap or nothing. And I would suggest that the sport

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Speaker 2: is in a very healthy place right now. We know

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Speaker 2: the revenues last year, we're twelve point one billion. They're

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Speaker 2: expected to be even higher for twenty twenty five when

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Speaker 2: the numbers come in. We saw a great World Series.

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Speaker 2: Fifty one million people watched Game seven worldwide. It's not

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Speaker 2: the right time for a labor dispute which would be

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Speaker 2: triggered by the owner's push for a salary cap. Now,

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Speaker 2: they may push, and that's fine. They have every right

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Speaker 2: to do whatever they want to do with negotiations. But

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Speaker 2: in the end, what I believe will happen and should

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Speaker 2: happen is revision to the current CBA, and what the

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Speaker 2: article is are just a bunch of ideas that I

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Speaker 2: throw out there. They're not fully formed ideas. They're not

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Speaker 2: formal proposals or anything like that. It's just thoughts on

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Speaker 2: how to address the issue of revenue disparity, which some

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Speaker 2: people might say is not an issue. It's kind of

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Speaker 2: a hard thing not to say is an issue and

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Speaker 2: you have one team at four hundred or one team

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Speaker 2: at one hundred million dollars. But that was the purpose

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Speaker 2: of it, just to kind of counter this ongoing WHOA

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Speaker 2: the sport needs a cap? I don't know that it

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Speaker 2: needs a cap. I don't believe it does, first of all,

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Speaker 2: And second of all, if you try for a cap

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Speaker 2: and you miss time in twenty seven, will shame on

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Speaker 2: everyone that should not have happen.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree totally. And I think you know from

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Speaker 3: reading the article, I understanding what you're talking about. I

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Speaker 3: want to know from you, with all the things that

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Speaker 3: you put out, there's what's basically besides that, what's the

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Speaker 3: number one thing that you've gotten out of this that

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Speaker 3: needs to be changed in this CBA in your opinion?

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Speaker 2: Todd, First, off, happy birthday and thank you. As far

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Speaker 2: as that question, it's a good one. And the number

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Speaker 2: one change in my opinion that needs to happen is

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Speaker 2: to get more revenue to the small market club and

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Speaker 2: as part of that, to ensure that they spend it

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Speaker 2: on major league payroll. Now, how do you do that?

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Speaker 2: What Commission Rob Manford is trying to do right now

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Speaker 2: is get more games nationally, take some of the local

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Speaker 2: games and make it part of a national package. Of course,

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Speaker 2: dough national television deals as well. And one of the

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Speaker 2: ideas in there is simply distribute that money, not evenly

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Speaker 2: as it has been distributed in the past, the national

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Speaker 2: TV money, but give it disproportionately to the lower revenue teams.

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Speaker 2: It's one way to get them more money. Now. Part

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Speaker 2: and parcel with that is those teams. Sorry about this, guys, Those.

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Speaker 4: Teams are good. We came in here, ken, you're good.

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Speaker 2: A higher level, and obviously in a cap system you

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Speaker 2: have a salary cap and a salary floor. But it

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Speaker 2: has always struck me as odd that at the top

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Speaker 2: of the payscale, top of the payroll scale, we have

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Speaker 2: a luxury tax system with thresholds and penalties. Why not

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Speaker 2: do that at the bottom. Similar kind of thing soft bottom,

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Speaker 2: where you go below a certain level, there are penalties

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Speaker 2: for that, whether it's losing draft picks and using revenue

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Speaker 2: sharing money, could be anything, and philosophically, I don't see

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Speaker 2: how the owners could oppose that you got this at

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Speaker 2: the top, well why not put it at the bottom?

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Speaker 5: Ken, I'm going to be lambasted for saying, Oh, this

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Speaker 5: is such a player's view. A lot of these issues

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Speaker 5: are owners versus owners, and you even brought it up

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Speaker 5: in one of you know, in part of your article today,

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Speaker 5: like why has it seemed like the fight seems like

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Speaker 5: players have to negotiate owners versus owners issues?

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Speaker 2: Well, historically that's at times been the case, Eric, where

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Speaker 2: basically the owners we're asking the players to solve their problems,

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Speaker 2: and in ninety four to ninety five that was certainly

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Speaker 2: an aspect of it. In this case, we'll see how

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Speaker 2: together the owners are. People always talk about, well, can

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Speaker 2: the players stick together? It's always a fair question. But

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Speaker 2: where the owners going to be Are the Yankees, the Dodgers,

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Speaker 2: the Mets. The Dodgers and Mets in particular going to

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Speaker 2: be content to share more money if that's what it

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Speaker 2: comes to if there is nothing on the other end

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Speaker 2: for them, if these teams don't spend that money properly. Now,

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Speaker 2: in a cap system, obviously it's a different scenario entirely,

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Speaker 2: and that in some respects from the owner's perspective, would

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Speaker 2: be very healthy, not just for franchise values, but also

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Speaker 2: the Dodgers and Mets would only be spending so much

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Speaker 2: in that scenario. Maybe that's what ultimately they would prefer.

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Speaker 2: But at the same time, what I like about the

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Speaker 2: current system is why would we limit teams and what

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Speaker 2: they can spend. Why are we telling them you can't

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Speaker 2: do this. You can put penalties in and you can

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Speaker 2: make it tougher for them, And all of those things

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Speaker 2: are proper within the context of the current system, But

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Speaker 2: the idea of saying don't try as hard as you can,

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Speaker 5: One of the things, one of the things that always

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Speaker 5: comes up in the CBA negotiation is the fact that

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Speaker 5: teams at the bottom don't spend enough. And you kind

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Speaker 5: of hit it on a little bit. Do you believe

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Speaker 5: that because every negotiation starts at a point for everybody

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Speaker 5: they're saying salary cap, what do they really want to hit.

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Speaker 5: You know, if you want to if you want to

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Speaker 5: make a hundred million dollars, you're not going to say

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Speaker 5: I'd like one hundred million dollars because they'll negotiate back

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Speaker 5: and go, we'll give you fifty. You know. So they

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Speaker 5: want the salary cap, But where do they really want

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Speaker 5: to get?

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Speaker 6: You?

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Speaker 5: Where did baseball really major League Baseball really want to

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Speaker 5: get to?

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Speaker 2: Evan Drellik, in his article from Wednesday about the salary

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Speaker 2: cap and how it would work, I believe had numbers

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Speaker 2: along the lines of two sixty at the top, one

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Speaker 2: fifty at the bottom, not exact, but it was in

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Speaker 2: that range that to me is unrealistic on both ends.

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Speaker 2: The small market teams some of them can't get to

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Speaker 2: one fifty, and some of the large market teams are

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Speaker 2: not going to want to go down that low, and

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Speaker 2: frankly can't go down that low for quite some time.

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Speaker 2: And in the cap leagues, and I point this out

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Speaker 2: in my article today, basically the cap and floor for

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Speaker 2: NAHL and NBA, ninety percent of the floor is I'm sorry,

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Speaker 2: ninety percent of the cap is where the floor is.

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Speaker 2: So that's very much condensed in baseball, There's no way

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Speaker 2: seeing we haven't talked about this much. Okay, you want

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Speaker 2: going to happen exactly? And of course we haven't gotten

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Speaker 2: but I'd like to see it in practice. I don't

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Speaker 2: believe for this sport it is that practical, at least

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Speaker 2: in the models that we've seen from the other sports.

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Speaker 3: I love what you wrote on there about teams having

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Speaker 3: to meet a payroll. And I think you hear a

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Speaker 3: lot of owners, a lot of you know, presidents talk about,

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Speaker 3: oh we don't have we're a small market, we don't

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Speaker 3: have the money. I think a soft floor like you're

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Speaker 3: talking about here where teams don't meet it. What would

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Speaker 3: be the extent of not meeting a payroll if that

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Speaker 2: Well, this is my idea, Todd's yeah, that's why I

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Speaker 6: I want to hear about it, sure right.

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Speaker 2: What I'm talking about is you don't need a certain

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Speaker 2: you lose revenue.

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Speaker 6: Sharing money.

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Speaker 2: You don't compete at a certain level, win a number

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Speaker 2: of games a minimum over i don't know, three or

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Speaker 2: lose something. So there are ways to do that. I'm

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Speaker 2: sure the owners would hate that idea. They would say, no, no,

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Speaker 2: you want a floor, you gotta have a cap. And

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Speaker 2: I'm saying, this isn't the floor. This is a soft floor,

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Speaker 2: like the soft cap that currently exists in baseball. It's

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Speaker 2: not really a cap. But you know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 2: there are restrictions there. Yeah, And that's what I'm saying,

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Speaker 2: restrictions at the bottom too, because if those teams are

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Speaker 2: to spend on payroll, not infrastructure, not on a new

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Speaker 2: what I would like.

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Speaker 1: To see ken, And that's my question. I know we're

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Speaker 1: soft cap but we don't have a soft floor. And then,

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Speaker 1: even more so what you're saying right now, money is

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Speaker 1: being shared, and I think this is the biggest fight

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Speaker 1: within owners right and we never get to really hear

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Speaker 1: from how those conversations go. But you're a big market team,

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Speaker 1: You're like, I am giving so much money to this

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Speaker 1: they're like, that's not really the intent of this. So

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Speaker 1: I'm just curious how we got to a point where

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Speaker 1: teams are pocketing cash And you just do very simple

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Speaker 1: other things that are shared, and you're like, there's no

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Speaker 2: Right Scott. I don't know exactly when the luxury tax

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Speaker 2: So we'll see if they stay together, and maybe all

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Speaker 2: thirty do supported CAP. They need twenty three votes to

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Speaker 2: sport have not increased as dramatically as some others, but again,

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Speaker 2: there are many financial measures you can use, many in caters.

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Speaker 5: Then the other side, I know the negotiations haven't started yet,

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Speaker 2: Don't know that there as tight as they were twenty

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Speaker 2: that is a fair question, Eric, And it remains to

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Speaker 2: let's go, And then you could do it in all

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Speaker 2: They're always people on both sides who are not necessarily

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Speaker 2: we're not listening to you. We're going to approve this deal.

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Speaker 1: Hey, Ken, last one on this. And I've actually been

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Speaker 1: to point out that I felt as if the draft lottery,

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Speaker 1: careful about how I phrase this. I think some teams

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Speaker 2: Yes, And tanking has been disincentivized, so that is a

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Speaker 2: good thing. And actually, Scott, I'm gonna close with this

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Speaker 2: of changes. And what am I talking about? The pitch clock,

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Speaker 2: the enlarged bases, all the different rules, changes that have

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Speaker 2: you do that with the CBA. Why can't you continue

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Speaker 2: what you just mentioned, Scott, what you started in the

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Speaker 2: I would suggest it's not in a bad place now,

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Speaker 2: but it can always be improved. And that is what

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Speaker 2: I'm talking about here. You don't have to burn the

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Speaker 2: the edges, and maybe even more significant than along the edges,

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Speaker 2: to enhance through revenue equality. It's not going to be

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Speaker 2: That's the point of what I wrote today. Yes, there

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Speaker 2: I'm not saying that my ideas are the ideas that

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Speaker 2: have all the answers. In fact, I know I don't

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'll say to fans, be careful what you

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Speaker 1: So love hearing both sides. Boden comes on and brings

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Speaker 6: For this.

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Speaker 1: But Ken, great article, and yeah, I saw what Evan

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Speaker 1: to it as well. Ken, thank you, Enjoy camp. You're

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Speaker 3: Wait, what's up, big dog? Good to see you.

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Speaker 3: Good Man good So. I don't know if it's a

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Speaker 8: rest of the starters at this point. You know, I

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Speaker 8: could see him probably in late April. It seems like

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Speaker 8: would be the best case scenario. You know, it seems

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Speaker 8: like they're gonna take things carefully with him just because

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Speaker 8: they you have so many guys coming back from injury,

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Speaker 8: like you said, but it seems like he's not far behind.

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Speaker 8: H You know, he had the elbow surgery to clean

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Speaker 8: up some loose bodies in that elbow. But I think

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Speaker 8: he's closest in terms of overall impact. I'd say Garrett

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Speaker 8: Cole obviously. You know, it's they played all of last

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Speaker 8: season without him. You know, he's a guy that's a

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Speaker 8: former cy Young winner. We don't know what exactly what

447
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Speaker 8: version's gonna be when he comes back, but you know,

448
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Speaker 8: he threw a bullpen today. Here's s Tian burnerfield and

449
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Speaker 8: you know he was hitting ninety six. You know, tatausin

450
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Speaker 8: Wells after he Cott said he looks like Garrett. So

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Speaker 8: obviously he still has a long way to go, a

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Speaker 8: couple of months probably to before he gets back on

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Speaker 8: a big league round. But you know, it seems like

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Speaker 8: at this point he's he's hit all the markers that

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Speaker 8: he needs to. You know, it's the chance he gets

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Speaker 8: into spring training games before you know they leave camp.

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Speaker 8: So again they're going to take their time with him.

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Speaker 8: But maybe he gets back late in May early June.

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Speaker 8: And but having a guy like that back in the rotation,

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Speaker 8: it seems to be the biggest one.

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Speaker 1: Greg, I'll give you a big picture topic that I

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Speaker 1: felt became a thing in New York. The Yankees made

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Speaker 1: plenty of moves this offseason, but it was really to

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Speaker 1: retain their players. So the whole run it back thing,

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Speaker 1: and I heard Paul Goldschmid addressed it the other day.

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Speaker 1: It'll be a great excuse, right if they're if they

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Speaker 1: don't win the World Series, it'll be like, well they

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Speaker 1: ran it back. That doesn't work. So what's your take

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Speaker 1: on you know that narrative? And then also, I know

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Speaker 1: it's early in camp, but does it feel different with

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Speaker 1: the roster construction because of maybe the way playing time

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Speaker 1: will shift pitchers like Cole that wasn't part of the

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Speaker 1: mix last year. Do you feel like running back is unfair?

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Speaker 8: Yeah?

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Speaker 6: I think it.

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Speaker 8: I don't think it's quite as simple as running back.

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Speaker 8: I get it it's you know, the I think twenty

478
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Speaker 8: four the twenty six players they had on the roster

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Speaker 8: for the Alds last October stelling the organization. So in

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Speaker 8: that respect, it's you know, it's it's a lot of

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Speaker 8: the same faces, but they didn't have coal and over

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Speaker 8: the course of the season, they didn't have the you know,

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Speaker 8: the full depth of guys that they got the trade

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Speaker 8: deadline that they kind of did with an eye on

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Speaker 8: this year, knowing that they had you know a lot

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Speaker 8: of those guys under control. I think it comes down to,

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Speaker 8: you know, you can argue with it or not, but

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Speaker 8: I think it comes down to the conference that they

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Speaker 8: had in that team. You know, in the second half

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Speaker 8: after the trade deadline last year, they really thought that

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Speaker 8: in Aaron Bone has mentioned this multiple times, they really

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Speaker 8: thought that that was as good as a roster as

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Speaker 8: they had, you know, at least in Boone's time here.

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Speaker 8: You know, I had as good of a chance as

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Speaker 8: any to to win it all. And that's including the

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Speaker 8: team that they went to the World Series with year

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Speaker 8: before or which obviously included Wan Soto.

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Speaker 6: You know, it obviously didn't work out. The Blue Jays

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Speaker 6: kicked their butt all.

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Speaker 8: Season Uh, and they ran into them in the l

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Speaker 8: d S and and it was a bad one for him. So, uh,

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Speaker 8: we'll see how it goes this year. But obviously it's

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Speaker 8: a you know, they now they have a full season.

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Speaker 8: They hope of Cam Schlitzler. Obviously he's dealing with some

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Speaker 8: back inflammation early in camp, but they think he's gonna

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Speaker 8: be fine by opening day. Uh.

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Speaker 6: So you get if you get.

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Speaker 8: A full season at him, you get at least a

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Speaker 8: couple of months, uh, you know, early early first half,

510
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Speaker 8: Cole comes back. You know, you get a full season

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Speaker 8: of having Ryan McMahon at third base. Obviously that the

512
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Speaker 8: bad has been uh you know, hasn't didn't explode last

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Speaker 8: season after the trade from the Rockies, but his defense

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Speaker 8: is legit at third base.

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Speaker 6: And you get you know, some.

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Speaker 8: Bullpen arms like David Bednar and Camilla de of all,

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Speaker 8: you get them for a full season. Obviously, they still

518
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Speaker 8: have some holes in the bullpen or some areas for

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Speaker 8: guys to step up. We'll see how that shakes out.

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Speaker 8: But I mean they really think that, and they think

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Speaker 8: what Trent Grisham did last year was for real and

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Speaker 8: not just a you know, clip on the radar.

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Speaker 6: They do think it's repeatable.

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Speaker 8: So you know, whether you agree with it or not,

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Speaker 8: it comes down to I think their confidence and what

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Speaker 8: those guys are capable of doing.

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Speaker 6: And you know.

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Speaker 8: Brian Cashman said last month that one series wasn't going

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Speaker 8: to shape their confidence and what they believe that that

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Speaker 8: group can do. So obviously it's you know, you can't

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Speaker 8: really change that until this October, and they got a

532
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Speaker 8: long way to go before then. But uh, you know,

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Speaker 8: the team last year, for all its flaws, did win

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Speaker 8: ninety four games and one went away from winning the

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Speaker 8: l East. So we'll see how it goes this year.

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Speaker 8: But I think it's they are you know, it's it

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Speaker 8: is a super familiar group, but I think it's not

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Speaker 8: quite as simple as running it back.

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Speaker 5: They only have flaws because of expectation. If anybody won

540
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Speaker 5: ninety four games, rulers and they're like, oh, they won

541
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Speaker 5: ninety seven, and you talk about any other team that

542
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Speaker 5: won ninety four only flaws because of expectation. It's just

543
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Speaker 5: a team that's built differently. I want to talk about

544
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Speaker 5: two players. One is twenty five, just turned twenty five

545
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Speaker 5: and Cam Schlittler and one is still twenty four In

546
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Speaker 5: Anthony Volpi. Two guys with one. Oh, Cam Schlittler is

547
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Speaker 5: gonna be this amazing player. Look what he did to

548
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Speaker 5: the Red Sox. Volpi in Yankees eyes, Yankees fans eyes,

549
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Speaker 5: not Yankees organization eyes, fans eyes. This guy should be

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Speaker 5: out of here. Who has to have a better season

551
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Speaker 5: for the Yankees to succeed. Knowing that Volpi's gonna start

552
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Speaker 5: a little bit later, but that there's a ton of

553
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Speaker 5: expectation on him, and people just have already penciled in

554
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Speaker 5: Cam Schlittler for the All Star Game.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I think it is an important year for Volpi. Obviously,

556
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Speaker 8: year four in the big leagues. Like you said, it'll be,

557
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Speaker 8: you know, a little bit delayed once he gets back

558
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Speaker 8: from from shoulder surgery. But I mean what they got

559
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Speaker 8: from him in the first two years defensively.

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Speaker 6: Was was legit.

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Speaker 8: Obviously, I took a step back last year. It's hard

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Speaker 8: to tell how much of that he's from the shoulder.

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Speaker 8: You know, they kind of in the season kind of

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Speaker 8: downplayed it what its effect was. It was his left shoulder,

565
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Speaker 8: but they said once they opened the up for surgery,

566
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Speaker 8: it turned out to be worse than they thought.

567
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Speaker 6: In the moment.

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Speaker 8: So it's it's hard to say quantify for sure how

569
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Speaker 8: much impacted him defensively offensively, but if you get that

570
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Speaker 8: guy back, that can be a goal club type defender.

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Speaker 8: And the biggest thing is just trying to get any

572
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Speaker 8: kind of consistency from him at the plate. He's shown

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Speaker 8: it in stretches, including you know, early on last season

574
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Speaker 8: it looked like he had kind of found a way

575
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Speaker 8: to give you a little bit more consistent impact at

576
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Speaker 8: the plate, and then he got and then he dove

577
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Speaker 8: on the shoulder, I think, and there's a pretty fairly

578
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Speaker 8: clear line of demarcation there for you know, when his

579
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Speaker 8: offense started to tail off a little bit. But I

580
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Speaker 8: think it's an important year for him because at some

581
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Speaker 8: point you got to do it. You know, they've talked

582
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Speaker 8: about the confidence that they still have in him, Like

583
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Speaker 8: you said, he's still young, but besides the last year,

584
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Speaker 8: still had the defense. But at a certain point, you know,

585
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Speaker 8: he's going to have to prove that he can can

586
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Speaker 8: impact the game offensively, at least somewhat more consistently than

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Speaker 8: he's done. They have Jose Cabieriro now, who's like a

588
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Speaker 8: legitimate backup, shorts up or a little legitimate shorts up,

589
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Speaker 8: so they have that option, whereas they haven't always had that,

590
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Speaker 8: you know, slit solid option behind him to threaten to

591
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Speaker 8: kind of take plenty of time from him. So we'll

592
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Speaker 8: see how that plays out. Kaviera is probably gonna get

593
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Speaker 8: the ball to the starts there with the first month

594
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Speaker 8: of the season before Bolt comes back. But I mean, slily,

595
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Speaker 8: there's potential high end in the rotation obviously, but they

596
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Speaker 8: have other guys there in the rotation that can kind

597
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Speaker 8: of carry it with Freed and you know Rodn once

598
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Speaker 8: he gets back. But it does seem like it's a

599
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Speaker 8: you know, bigger year for Bolty here to prove what

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Speaker 8: he can do.

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Speaker 3: A little bit on the minor league side. Questions for you,

602
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Speaker 3: George Lombard Junior Spencer Jones, where do you see these

603
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Speaker 3: guys fitting in with the big team. I don't know

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Speaker 3: if necessarily they're going to be on the team after

605
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Speaker 3: spring training, but how do you see them working their

606
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Speaker 3: way towards you know, big league, big league time.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, you know, at a certain point this offseason there

608
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Speaker 8: was a chance, it seemed like for Spencer Jones to

609
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Speaker 8: come into this campaign and win a job of see

610
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Speaker 8: when they resigned Cody Bellinger. It's hard to hard to

611
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Speaker 8: see a path for him now, especially with Jason de

612
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Speaker 8: Megaz kind of in front of him trying. And it's

613
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Speaker 8: at this point it seems like Dimegas might be back

614
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Speaker 8: in Triple A too with Jones to start the year. Obviously,

615
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Speaker 8: if they stay fully healthy. You know, they got to

616
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Speaker 8: decide whether they want Tomegaz is the fourth outfielder on

617
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Speaker 8: the bench and playing every couple of days, or whether

618
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Speaker 8: it's more important for him to be playing every day

619
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Speaker 8: at Triple A. But I think it was you know,

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Speaker 8: it was a big year for Spencer last year at

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Speaker 8: Triple A.

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Speaker 6: Between Double A, Triple A U.

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Speaker 8: He went on that tear middle of the summer where

624
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Speaker 8: he kind of flashed that you know, sent a reminder

625
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Speaker 8: of what he's capable of doing. Obviously that you know,

626
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Speaker 8: he's got big time power, he's got some speed, athleticism.

627
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Speaker 8: They think he can play center field. But obviously the

628
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Speaker 8: strikeouts are you know, a's sizeable concern. But if he's

629
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Speaker 8: if he's you know, pumping the ball that the way

630
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Speaker 8: he showed last summer, and you know, you can learn

631
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Speaker 8: to live with the strikeouts. I think so I would

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Speaker 8: imagine he starts the year back at Triple A, borrowing

633
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Speaker 8: some injuries to the to the l field that the

634
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Speaker 8: big league level. But you know, I mean, you guys know,

635
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Speaker 8: once you're at Triple A, you're just an injury or

636
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Speaker 8: two away from from getting that call up. So I

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Speaker 8: wouldn't be surprised if we see him at some point

638
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Speaker 8: this season. We'll see and then George Lombard junior. Uh,

639
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Speaker 8: you know they've said and Scotts have said this too.

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Speaker 8: His defense is you know, he's major league ready defensively

641
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Speaker 8: right now. It's the bat that kind of he needs

642
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Speaker 8: some more development time. But I would think he starts

643
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Speaker 8: the year back Double A, which is you know, he

644
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Speaker 8: got up there pretty quickly last year with a hot

645
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Speaker 8: start at High A, So you know, it should be

646
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Speaker 8: an important year development year of him at Double A,

647
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Speaker 8: trying to find some some more consistency offensively. But we've

648
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Speaker 8: seen it here, you know, he was in big league

649
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Speaker 8: camp last year and and some of the defense he has,

650
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Speaker 8: it's just it looks looks like a major league short stop.

651
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Speaker 8: So that part of his game seems ready, is just

652
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Speaker 8: kind of making sure the offense could catch up.

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Speaker 6: With that.

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Speaker 5: Who has more at bats in the big league this year?

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Speaker 5: Jason Dominguez or Spencer Jones. You hit on Spencer Jones

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Speaker 5: there a little bit. Who gets more abs? Because I'm

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Speaker 5: looking at it, Jason Domingos has two hundred and twenty

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Speaker 5: at bats in Triple A so far, and you're sending

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Speaker 5: Spencer Jones back to maybe work on his strikeouts, you

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Speaker 5: might need to spend Jason dominga is back to work

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Speaker 5: on what his defense is hitting right handed? What is where?

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Speaker 5: Where do you see that playing out? Because of the

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Speaker 5: fact that they got Trent Gristram back on the qualifying

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Speaker 5: offer and they resigned Cody Bellingder.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I would expect Diminga is still to get more

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00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:34,800
Speaker 8: bigly get bats this year. You know, they he played

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Speaker 8: some winter ball this this offseason and the focus just

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Speaker 8: kind of work on that defensively left field and also

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Speaker 8: try to, you know, get some some reps right handed.

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Speaker 8: You know, it's tough if he if he was better

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Speaker 8: from the right side, he'd be a strong fit off

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Speaker 8: the bench for this team because they are so left handed. Unfortunately,

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Speaker 8: his stronger side, at least last year was left handed.

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Speaker 8: So it's he's kind of a you know, repetitive in

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Speaker 8: some senses, but I still think, you know, he probably

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Speaker 8: has a better shot that gets more legitimate, you know,

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Speaker 8: playing time up here, whether that's a you know, if

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Speaker 8: if they're some openings at d H, if there are

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Speaker 8: you know, in left field, because they can move Cody

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Speaker 8: Bellinger around, you know, if there are other.

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Speaker 6: Injuries around, you know, in center or first base.

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Speaker 8: But they think, you know that they don't seem to

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Speaker 8: want to play Domingos in center, which is where he

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Speaker 8: came up in the minors. But Spencer Jones has you know,

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Speaker 8: they think they're going can play a legit center field,

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Speaker 8: even though he's bounced around a little bit in the corners.

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Speaker 8: But just because Dimingus has the experience up here and

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Speaker 8: has done it in flashes, I think, you know, at

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Speaker 8: this point, I'd expect him to get more at bats,

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Speaker 8: even if he does start a year back at Triple A.

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Speaker 5: It just seems seems like they just keep re running,

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Speaker 5: rerunning the same guy when it's not when the fit's

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Speaker 5: not there. But we'll see who knows who knows where

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Speaker 5: it rolls. John Carlos Stanton across the across the country

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Speaker 5: in LA, everybody talks they always talk about, you know,

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Speaker 5: just kind of slowly trudging through the regular season, making

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Speaker 5: sure you're one hundred percent healthy. Jean Carlos Stanton is

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Speaker 5: a playoff monster. Do they take any other precautions this

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Speaker 5: season for gian Carlos so that he can be that

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Speaker 5: playoff monster and be one hundred percent healthy? Or do

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Speaker 5: they just roll him out there until he needs a

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Speaker 5: break and then give him a break.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I think they'll be they'll be careful, you know.

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Speaker 8: Aaron Boo mentioned the other day, like they think it's

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Speaker 8: good for him at this point in his career to

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Speaker 8: be playing three out of four or four out of five,

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Speaker 8: but to get semi regular off days mixed in there.

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Speaker 8: They think it's good for him to keep him healthy.

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Speaker 8: I mean, obviously he missed time at the start of

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Speaker 8: last year with the elbows, but when he came back,

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Speaker 8: it was probably one of the more you know, consistently

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Speaker 8: productive regular seasons he's had in a few years.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 8: And that was by you know, they had that rotation

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Speaker 8: of guys that were starting, so he was getting every

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Speaker 8: you know, fourth fifth day off which seemed to do

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Speaker 8: well for his body.

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Speaker 6: Uh, And he played well, So I think, you.

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Speaker 8: Know, at this point, it sounds like he's coming in

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Speaker 8: camp with a pretty healthy elbows. Obviously, it was this

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Speaker 8: time last year that we found out about that he'd

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Speaker 8: been dealing with it all off season. But at this point,

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Speaker 8: you know, boone expects him to be a full go.

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Speaker 8: They have position players reporting on Sunday, so we'll see

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Speaker 8: what happens, you know, if there's any hiccups with that

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Speaker 8: once they do physicals all that. But from everything we've

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Speaker 8: heard at this point, he seems to be a full go,

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Speaker 8: you know, and I think he'll play pretty consistently at

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Speaker 8: the h but getting semi regular off dates just to

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Speaker 8: keep his body fresh, like you said, because if you

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Speaker 8: get him, the most important thing is having him October

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Speaker 8: when it's you know, his time to to kind of

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Speaker 8: you know, put the team on his back sometimes.

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Speaker 1: Greg, great insight.

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Speaker 6: We enjoyed it.

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Speaker 1: We'll follow your coverage all your hope you had fun

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Speaker 1: and enjoy the sunshine out in Florida today. As you know,

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Speaker 1: you get the early mornings going, get a little hand

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Speaker 1: going have fun out there. But thank you for joining us.

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Speaker 1: Really appreciate the time. Great great info.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, thanks guys, thank you.

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Speaker 1: That's Greig Joyce. You can see his work in the

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