WEBVTT - TechList: The Golden Age of Radio

0:00:05.400 --> 0:00:09.600
<v Speaker 1>Hey there, it's Jonathan Strickland, and I'm here to introduce

0:00:09.760 --> 0:00:14.560
<v Speaker 1>a playlist of ten episodes of my podcast tech Stuff

0:00:15.040 --> 0:00:20.000
<v Speaker 1>that are all about entertainment and entertainment related fields, from

0:00:20.120 --> 0:00:25.720
<v Speaker 1>video games to television series, two films to internet videos

0:00:26.000 --> 0:00:30.440
<v Speaker 1>from yesteryear. So I hope you guys enjoy these episodes.

0:00:30.560 --> 0:00:34.440
<v Speaker 1>You can go to the tech Stuff podcast page and

0:00:34.479 --> 0:00:38.000
<v Speaker 1>subscribe to listen to all sorts of episodes about tech

0:00:38.080 --> 0:00:42.240
<v Speaker 1>from all realms, and hopefully this will provide a little

0:00:42.240 --> 0:00:46.040
<v Speaker 1>bit of entertainment, a little bit of education, and probably

0:00:46.080 --> 0:00:49.000
<v Speaker 1>more than a few puns, because that's kind of how

0:00:49.080 --> 0:01:06.240
<v Speaker 1>I roll. Enjoy this playlist. Welcome to text Stuff, a

0:01:06.319 --> 0:01:13.920
<v Speaker 1>production from my Heart Radio. Hey there, and welcome to

0:01:14.319 --> 0:01:16.920
<v Speaker 1>tech Stuff. I'm your host, Jonathan Strickland. I'm an executive

0:01:16.920 --> 0:01:19.800
<v Speaker 1>producer with I Heart Radio and I love all things teching.

0:01:19.800 --> 0:01:23.280
<v Speaker 1>Its time for another entertainment playlist episode. This one is

0:01:23.319 --> 0:01:27.560
<v Speaker 1>about the Golden Age of radio. So we're talking about

0:01:27.560 --> 0:01:31.080
<v Speaker 1>the early days of radio when the radio was first

0:01:31.240 --> 0:01:34.399
<v Speaker 1>coming into being. It's an interesting and dramatic story and

0:01:34.520 --> 0:01:38.240
<v Speaker 1>I think it's a pretty entertaining one. Enjoy Today, Christian

0:01:38.280 --> 0:01:41.039
<v Speaker 1>and I are going to talk about a subject that

0:01:41.120 --> 0:01:43.319
<v Speaker 1>was suggested by a listener, and first of all, I

0:01:43.400 --> 0:01:47.160
<v Speaker 1>must apologize to said listener because despite my heroic efforts

0:01:47.240 --> 0:01:50.680
<v Speaker 1>of researching where this suggestion came from, I couldn't find it.

0:01:50.760 --> 0:01:53.160
<v Speaker 1>So I'm guessing this was actually an older one. But

0:01:53.280 --> 0:01:57.000
<v Speaker 1>said the forward thinking, bad prediction story about Hugo Gernsback

0:01:57.080 --> 0:01:58.920
<v Speaker 1>got me thinking about how crazy it must have been

0:01:58.960 --> 0:02:01.160
<v Speaker 1>to have lived through the day you of public radio,

0:02:01.400 --> 0:02:05.040
<v Speaker 1>all the excitement and so little understanding, fireside chats, fearmongering

0:02:05.080 --> 0:02:08.639
<v Speaker 1>about radio death rays. A history episode about the promises

0:02:08.639 --> 0:02:11.800
<v Speaker 1>in popular notions surrounding radio could be fun and uh

0:02:12.040 --> 0:02:15.280
<v Speaker 1>so we wanted to talk about the dawn of broadcast

0:02:15.440 --> 0:02:18.959
<v Speaker 1>radio before we get into that, I should mention that

0:02:19.040 --> 0:02:22.120
<v Speaker 1>way back in April two thousand eleven, Chris Palette and

0:02:22.200 --> 0:02:25.880
<v Speaker 1>I sat down and recorded an episode titled Who Invented

0:02:25.919 --> 0:02:30.320
<v Speaker 1>the Radio, which was mostly about the inventors who discovered

0:02:30.400 --> 0:02:34.120
<v Speaker 1>radio waves and found ways to generate radio waves, obviously

0:02:34.160 --> 0:02:38.280
<v Speaker 1>including the two big names Tesla and Marconi. Anyone who

0:02:38.280 --> 0:02:41.360
<v Speaker 1>knows anything about the patent wars knows about there was

0:02:41.600 --> 0:02:44.880
<v Speaker 1>a big kerfuffle between the two of those guys. Uh

0:02:45.240 --> 0:02:48.440
<v Speaker 1>little peek behind the curtain. That is the first time,

0:02:48.680 --> 0:02:51.600
<v Speaker 1>and I think the only time I have recorded an

0:02:51.760 --> 0:02:56.320
<v Speaker 1>entire episode and immediately said, we can't use that, Let's

0:02:56.360 --> 0:02:59.120
<v Speaker 1>do it again. We recorded it all over because the

0:02:59.120 --> 0:03:01.520
<v Speaker 1>ghost of Marcon he was haunting you. There was that,

0:03:01.800 --> 0:03:04.120
<v Speaker 1>and we had in the old studio, we had a

0:03:04.160 --> 0:03:08.040
<v Speaker 1>portrait of Nicola Tesla on the wall. We felt judged,

0:03:08.080 --> 0:03:11.400
<v Speaker 1>but mainly Chris and I both felt that we gave

0:03:11.480 --> 0:03:16.200
<v Speaker 1>such a disjointed story that we were jumping around so

0:03:16.280 --> 0:03:19.239
<v Speaker 1>much that made no sense. And so we after talking

0:03:19.240 --> 0:03:22.800
<v Speaker 1>it through once, we went back re recorded. So that

0:03:22.880 --> 0:03:25.880
<v Speaker 1>first episode that we recorded, it's lost to time. We

0:03:25.919 --> 0:03:27.680
<v Speaker 1>don't have it anymore. I don't wish I could, at

0:03:27.720 --> 0:03:29.760
<v Speaker 1>least hope will be more organized today. But I'll tell

0:03:29.840 --> 0:03:33.520
<v Speaker 1>you just from going through all this research that this

0:03:33.720 --> 0:03:38.480
<v Speaker 1>is such a vast amount of information for this period

0:03:38.480 --> 0:03:40.600
<v Speaker 1>of time, and I feel like and it's and you

0:03:40.720 --> 0:03:44.960
<v Speaker 1>can you can get a PhD in radio communication in

0:03:45.080 --> 0:03:49.040
<v Speaker 1>the history of radio and understanding these things, and it's yeah,

0:03:49.080 --> 0:03:53.280
<v Speaker 1>we will probably only scratch the surface today, I imagine, Yeah,

0:03:53.360 --> 0:03:58.800
<v Speaker 1>there there and there's so many crazy dramatic stories of betrayal,

0:03:59.200 --> 0:04:04.400
<v Speaker 1>of of con men, of big. It's like this pirate

0:04:04.480 --> 0:04:07.680
<v Speaker 1>industry of people just messing with each other. Yeah, it's

0:04:07.680 --> 0:04:10.880
<v Speaker 1>it's fascinating. In fact, there there's probably two or three

0:04:10.920 --> 0:04:13.520
<v Speaker 1>podcast worth of information that we could cover, but we're

0:04:13.560 --> 0:04:16.440
<v Speaker 1>gonna try and get this in one if we can. So,

0:04:16.960 --> 0:04:18.760
<v Speaker 1>first thing I got to mention is that radio and

0:04:18.760 --> 0:04:21.680
<v Speaker 1>broadcast radio are two different things. You know, radio in

0:04:21.720 --> 0:04:24.200
<v Speaker 1>the sense of what Tesla and Marconi were looking at,

0:04:24.240 --> 0:04:28.320
<v Speaker 1>they were looking at ways of transmitting short signals across

0:04:28.520 --> 0:04:32.000
<v Speaker 1>distances without using wires, so that was it. They were

0:04:32.040 --> 0:04:34.960
<v Speaker 1>looking largely at using Morse code. So they might use

0:04:34.960 --> 0:04:40.039
<v Speaker 1>a spark gap technology where they would create sparks and

0:04:40.120 --> 0:04:43.919
<v Speaker 1>send messages that way. But you couldn't really do a

0:04:43.960 --> 0:04:46.679
<v Speaker 1>sustained message that way without creating a lot of static

0:04:46.720 --> 0:04:50.680
<v Speaker 1>and noise, and that was a real problem. So we

0:04:50.760 --> 0:04:55.000
<v Speaker 1>need to look at another person for broadcast radio. That

0:04:55.040 --> 0:04:58.280
<v Speaker 1>would be a Canadian by the name of Reginald Fessenden

0:04:59.000 --> 0:05:03.160
<v Speaker 1>who said actually invented am radio. That would be uh,

0:05:03.240 --> 0:05:08.320
<v Speaker 1>the amplitude modulated radio. And so from your notes here

0:05:09.240 --> 0:05:14.120
<v Speaker 1>your notes, it says he worked with Edison or for Edison.

0:05:14.480 --> 0:05:17.360
<v Speaker 1>He actually he actually worked for both Westinghouse and Edison

0:05:17.400 --> 0:05:19.880
<v Speaker 1>at different points in his career. So yeah, he just

0:05:19.960 --> 0:05:23.479
<v Speaker 1>like Tesla. Tesla also worked for both, although you know,

0:05:23.560 --> 0:05:27.480
<v Speaker 1>again working for like it's like me saying that, you know,

0:05:27.560 --> 0:05:30.960
<v Speaker 1>I worked for the head of our parent company, and

0:05:31.080 --> 0:05:33.960
<v Speaker 1>technically I do, but I don't have any contact with them.

0:05:34.040 --> 0:05:36.440
<v Speaker 1>So uh. He had dropped out of school as a

0:05:36.480 --> 0:05:39.760
<v Speaker 1>young man. He actually did not complete his school work,

0:05:39.800 --> 0:05:43.480
<v Speaker 1>but he was keenly interested in electricity and this potential

0:05:43.520 --> 0:05:47.040
<v Speaker 1>to transmit messages wirelessly, and he was using that spark

0:05:47.080 --> 0:05:49.000
<v Speaker 1>gap technology. But that was the problem, was that it

0:05:49.040 --> 0:05:50.880
<v Speaker 1>was creating so much static and noise that it was

0:05:51.000 --> 0:05:55.240
<v Speaker 1>very difficult to get any intelligible message across. Yeah. So

0:05:55.320 --> 0:05:58.800
<v Speaker 1>actually I want to interject here for sure. So um,

0:05:58.920 --> 0:06:03.480
<v Speaker 1>in like the model of human communication, when scholars are

0:06:03.480 --> 0:06:06.480
<v Speaker 1>looking at how human beings communicate with each other regardless

0:06:06.480 --> 0:06:13.279
<v Speaker 1>of media, they actually use uh this Fessenden Marconi uh

0:06:13.520 --> 0:06:16.880
<v Speaker 1>model of transmissions as like the baseline for it. And

0:06:16.920 --> 0:06:20.400
<v Speaker 1>it's all about like sending and receiving with feedback and

0:06:20.480 --> 0:06:23.520
<v Speaker 1>feed forward and then there's a signal to noise ratio.

0:06:23.839 --> 0:06:26.360
<v Speaker 1>That's how it's all understood. Whether you and I are

0:06:26.360 --> 0:06:30.159
<v Speaker 1>sitting here talking in the same room, or it's mass media,

0:06:30.279 --> 0:06:33.880
<v Speaker 1>or it's uh like like in the early days of radio.

0:06:34.120 --> 0:06:36.280
<v Speaker 1>That the way they literally thought of it was two

0:06:36.320 --> 0:06:39.080
<v Speaker 1>ships that were thousands of yards away from one another

0:06:39.360 --> 0:06:42.400
<v Speaker 1>trying to contact each other using this old radio technology,

0:06:42.600 --> 0:06:44.840
<v Speaker 1>and they would have so much static they would have

0:06:44.920 --> 0:06:47.919
<v Speaker 1>to constantly give each other feedback and feed forward to

0:06:48.040 --> 0:06:50.880
<v Speaker 1>make sure the message was understood. It makes perfect sense,

0:06:50.920 --> 0:06:54.839
<v Speaker 1>I mean, especially when you see the brilliance of Fessenden.

0:06:55.640 --> 0:06:58.120
<v Speaker 1>He thought, well, they I can. I can create these

0:06:58.160 --> 0:07:00.960
<v Speaker 1>sparks of electricity, create these elector of magnetic fields, and

0:07:01.000 --> 0:07:04.480
<v Speaker 1>thus creating radio waves, but it isn't giving me the

0:07:04.480 --> 0:07:08.640
<v Speaker 1>fidelity I need in order to communicate properly. He then thought,

0:07:08.720 --> 0:07:12.040
<v Speaker 1>what if I used a continuous wave. So I create

0:07:12.360 --> 0:07:16.840
<v Speaker 1>a sign wave and oscillating wave with the same amplitude,

0:07:16.920 --> 0:07:20.640
<v Speaker 1>same frequency, So it's just steady. Now, that's not carrying

0:07:20.680 --> 0:07:24.360
<v Speaker 1>any information by itself. It's if you could if you

0:07:24.360 --> 0:07:26.520
<v Speaker 1>could hear it, it would just be a steady tone.

0:07:27.080 --> 0:07:30.280
<v Speaker 1>But it's actually talking about using frequencies above the limit

0:07:30.320 --> 0:07:33.760
<v Speaker 1>of human hearing. So let's say you create this wave

0:07:34.400 --> 0:07:39.680
<v Speaker 1>and then you were too introduce a second wave, one

0:07:39.800 --> 0:07:42.960
<v Speaker 1>that was created by your voice, so you'd speak into

0:07:42.960 --> 0:07:46.080
<v Speaker 1>a microphone, it gets converted into electric waves. You add

0:07:46.120 --> 0:07:49.520
<v Speaker 1>that on top of the uh, the existing wave you've

0:07:49.520 --> 0:07:53.720
<v Speaker 1>already created, and you allow it to change the amplitude

0:07:54.520 --> 0:07:57.640
<v Speaker 1>of that wave as the two waves are overlaid on

0:07:57.680 --> 0:08:00.640
<v Speaker 1>top of one another. Sure, it's genius, it is genius.

0:08:00.680 --> 0:08:05.280
<v Speaker 1>It's absolutely genius. Uh. So this was a M radio.

0:08:05.400 --> 0:08:08.680
<v Speaker 1>This was the idea that what that became a M

0:08:08.760 --> 0:08:12.200
<v Speaker 1>radio because it does modulate the amplitude of that wave.

0:08:12.440 --> 0:08:16.080
<v Speaker 1>So the amplitude, by the way, is the the peak

0:08:16.120 --> 0:08:19.440
<v Speaker 1>to peak uh difference, Right, It's not. It's not how

0:08:19.440 --> 0:08:23.200
<v Speaker 1>many oscillations. This is just the the amplitude of the

0:08:23.240 --> 0:08:28.080
<v Speaker 1>wave itself, how tall the peaks are, how low the

0:08:28.560 --> 0:08:30.800
<v Speaker 1>troughs are, if you were looking at the wave across

0:08:31.600 --> 0:08:35.720
<v Speaker 1>a line the way at Assuming that this innovation of

0:08:35.840 --> 0:08:40.800
<v Speaker 1>his significantly reduced the noise and static it did, it did.

0:08:41.080 --> 0:08:44.120
<v Speaker 1>It did still have issues and that you could have

0:08:44.240 --> 0:08:48.000
<v Speaker 1>interference with other waves that were created at that same frequency.

0:08:48.360 --> 0:08:52.320
<v Speaker 1>It also meant that you could get interference with other

0:08:52.360 --> 0:08:57.280
<v Speaker 1>electromagnetic phenomenon like like a lightning strike. So also if

0:08:57.320 --> 0:09:00.000
<v Speaker 1>you pass below like if you go under a bridge,

0:09:00.080 --> 0:09:03.000
<v Speaker 1>you would hear, you know, the disruption of the signal.

0:09:03.400 --> 0:09:07.560
<v Speaker 1>So it wasn't perfect, but it was an incredible step forward.

0:09:08.400 --> 0:09:14.000
<v Speaker 1>And this was a revolutionary I mean he tested it successfully.

0:09:15.040 --> 0:09:19.160
<v Speaker 1>He did a short distance test between two towers and

0:09:19.200 --> 0:09:21.800
<v Speaker 1>it worked fine. And then in nineteen o six he

0:09:21.840 --> 0:09:27.240
<v Speaker 1>had his infamous Christmas concert for sailors. See this is yeah,

0:09:27.320 --> 0:09:29.080
<v Speaker 1>this is where I think that that boat to boat

0:09:29.679 --> 0:09:34.600
<v Speaker 1>idea comes from. Yeah, because it turns out the disaster

0:09:34.640 --> 0:09:39.560
<v Speaker 1>of the Titanic would end up really making this uh

0:09:39.800 --> 0:09:42.600
<v Speaker 1>clear that there needed to be some radio communication for

0:09:42.640 --> 0:09:45.200
<v Speaker 1>ships at sea. But what he wanted to do was

0:09:45.240 --> 0:09:48.080
<v Speaker 1>he wanted to send out a message to essentially telegraph

0:09:48.120 --> 0:09:52.800
<v Speaker 1>operators aboard ships. That was his plan. So he proceeded

0:09:52.840 --> 0:09:57.760
<v Speaker 1>the concert with an actual telegraph message that essentially translates

0:09:57.760 --> 0:10:01.200
<v Speaker 1>into hey, pay attention. And then once he did that,

0:10:01.240 --> 0:10:03.679
<v Speaker 1>he started knew it was coming though, right They were not,

0:10:03.800 --> 0:10:06.640
<v Speaker 1>most of them. They just knew to pay attention because

0:10:06.640 --> 0:10:09.440
<v Speaker 1>they got the message. Yeah. There they were like, well,

0:10:09.559 --> 0:10:12.079
<v Speaker 1>here's the message. Whatever is going to happen, We need

0:10:12.120 --> 0:10:14.960
<v Speaker 1>to really focus. And so what they were expecting to

0:10:14.960 --> 0:10:17.480
<v Speaker 1>hear were just the noises they would hear for the

0:10:17.520 --> 0:10:20.480
<v Speaker 1>dots and dashes of Morse code. So then he he

0:10:20.520 --> 0:10:25.080
<v Speaker 1>gives a short speech, he plays a violin uh, and

0:10:25.200 --> 0:10:28.120
<v Speaker 1>plays a Holy Night. There were supposed to be other

0:10:28.160 --> 0:10:30.520
<v Speaker 1>people who talked into the microphone too, but most of

0:10:30.520 --> 0:10:33.199
<v Speaker 1>them chickened out because they they got like terrible stage

0:10:33.200 --> 0:10:35.760
<v Speaker 1>fright because they realized all of a sudden that they

0:10:35.760 --> 0:10:39.440
<v Speaker 1>were speaking to like hundreds of people, right right, yeah, yeah,

0:10:39.520 --> 0:10:42.520
<v Speaker 1>And so anyway, it ended up being a big hit.

0:10:42.600 --> 0:10:45.760
<v Speaker 1>Sailors up and down the Atlantic coast we were able

0:10:45.800 --> 0:10:48.440
<v Speaker 1>to hear him and reported back to it, so it

0:10:48.559 --> 0:10:51.760
<v Speaker 1>was known to be a success. And that's how AM

0:10:51.960 --> 0:10:57.040
<v Speaker 1>radio got started. Yeah yeah, I like that. Yeah, so

0:10:57.280 --> 0:10:59.679
<v Speaker 1>that's a nice start to it ends up being or

0:10:59.760 --> 0:11:04.080
<v Speaker 1>rather thorny industry. Yeah. So, so he he demonstrates this

0:11:04.920 --> 0:11:10.320
<v Speaker 1>capability and immediately other physicists and engineers start to experiment

0:11:10.400 --> 0:11:13.280
<v Speaker 1>with it because some of them had been independently working

0:11:13.280 --> 0:11:15.880
<v Speaker 1>on the same kind of idea. Festendon ended up being

0:11:15.960 --> 0:11:19.800
<v Speaker 1>the first to make it really work in a public demonstration.

0:11:20.160 --> 0:11:21.720
<v Speaker 1>So you had a lot of other people who were

0:11:21.760 --> 0:11:24.920
<v Speaker 1>who either adopted his ideas or continued to develop their

0:11:24.960 --> 0:11:29.960
<v Speaker 1>own ideas, and a lot of amateurs were starting to

0:11:30.200 --> 0:11:35.880
<v Speaker 1>experiment with radio transmissions, including transmitting out to telegraph operators,

0:11:35.920 --> 0:11:39.760
<v Speaker 1>who often were very much entertained by this because it

0:11:39.800 --> 0:11:43.200
<v Speaker 1>was different from just listening to clicks on the headphones.

0:11:43.360 --> 0:11:46.080
<v Speaker 1>This is the part that's the most fascinating about the

0:11:46.160 --> 0:11:49.040
<v Speaker 1>evolution of radio to me is that even though the

0:11:49.080 --> 0:11:53.800
<v Speaker 1>technology is ultimately made for mass communication, people originally started

0:11:53.920 --> 0:11:57.920
<v Speaker 1>using it as one to one communication across long distances,

0:11:57.960 --> 0:12:03.960
<v Speaker 1>replacing a telegraph. And then, uh, these amateur operators, these

0:12:04.040 --> 0:12:08.520
<v Speaker 1>like d I y uh people in their in their garage,

0:12:08.600 --> 0:12:11.440
<v Speaker 1>is just you know, tinkering around with the technology that

0:12:11.440 --> 0:12:13.880
<v Speaker 1>they could get a hold of. We're able to turn

0:12:13.960 --> 0:12:16.679
<v Speaker 1>it into this mass communication then yeah. And it's funny

0:12:16.720 --> 0:12:19.080
<v Speaker 1>because when you look at the early ones, obviously they

0:12:19.080 --> 0:12:22.720
<v Speaker 1>were using very low wattage transmitters, so that meant that

0:12:22.720 --> 0:12:25.400
<v Speaker 1>they couldn't transmit very far, most of them. I mean,

0:12:25.720 --> 0:12:27.680
<v Speaker 1>if you were a big name, you might be able

0:12:27.720 --> 0:12:30.240
<v Speaker 1>to work with someone like General Electric to get a

0:12:30.320 --> 0:12:33.600
<v Speaker 1>really big transmitter and be able to to send a

0:12:33.640 --> 0:12:36.840
<v Speaker 1>signal far away. Because the signals reach is largely dependent

0:12:36.920 --> 0:12:39.439
<v Speaker 1>upon the power of the transmitter. Right, the further way

0:12:39.480 --> 0:12:41.880
<v Speaker 1>you get, the weaker the signal is and the less

0:12:41.920 --> 0:12:44.080
<v Speaker 1>you'll be likely you are able to pick it up

0:12:44.120 --> 0:12:48.320
<v Speaker 1>with a receiver. So in the early days people were

0:12:48.760 --> 0:12:52.880
<v Speaker 1>happy to experiment with this, and there was really no

0:12:52.960 --> 0:12:57.280
<v Speaker 1>regulation because there there hadn't been a demonstrable need to

0:12:57.360 --> 0:13:01.239
<v Speaker 1>regulate yet, because no one had the power to interfere

0:13:01.320 --> 0:13:06.360
<v Speaker 1>that much with anything that was important. Nineteen o seven,

0:13:06.360 --> 0:13:09.400
<v Speaker 1>Festan would invent a high frequency electric generator to create

0:13:09.480 --> 0:13:12.680
<v Speaker 1>radio waves in the one hurts frequency, which was really important.

0:13:12.920 --> 0:13:16.679
<v Speaker 1>And in nineteen o eight Dr Charles Aaron Culver, who

0:13:16.760 --> 0:13:19.640
<v Speaker 1>was newly hired as a professor of physics at Beloit

0:13:19.760 --> 0:13:28.600
<v Speaker 1>College or bell Watt if you prefer um, and it's

0:13:28.960 --> 0:13:32.920
<v Speaker 1>it's in a town called bell Watt actually, but set

0:13:32.960 --> 0:13:36.240
<v Speaker 1>up a radio telegraph assembly which became the foundation for

0:13:36.280 --> 0:13:39.199
<v Speaker 1>the college is radio station, though voice in music transmission

0:13:39.200 --> 0:13:41.160
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't be part of it until the nineteen twenties. But

0:13:41.200 --> 0:13:46.120
<v Speaker 1>this this became like again, it was someone a physics professor,

0:13:46.160 --> 0:13:48.600
<v Speaker 1>in this case, a physics professor who was already interested

0:13:48.640 --> 0:13:52.120
<v Speaker 1>in radio and had been working on it independently, setting

0:13:52.200 --> 0:13:55.600
<v Speaker 1>up a thing that would eventually evolve into an early

0:13:56.200 --> 0:13:59.840
<v Speaker 1>early radio station. Yeah, and that's kind of Another interesting

0:14:00.040 --> 0:14:02.960
<v Speaker 1>aspect of this too is that these early amateur radio

0:14:03.000 --> 0:14:08.319
<v Speaker 1>stations weren't just uh d I y kind of hobbyists

0:14:09.200 --> 0:14:11.160
<v Speaker 1>doing it on their own. A lot of it was

0:14:11.280 --> 0:14:14.480
<v Speaker 1>educational institutions, not just colleges but also high schools that

0:14:14.520 --> 0:14:18.360
<v Speaker 1>were just you know, trying to use it for educational purposes. Yeah,

0:14:18.400 --> 0:14:22.720
<v Speaker 1>and that it's interesting later on what happens when amateur

0:14:22.840 --> 0:14:25.520
<v Speaker 1>radio sort of gets more regulated. It really reminds me

0:14:25.560 --> 0:14:28.640
<v Speaker 1>of the early days of personal computers and how how

0:14:29.160 --> 0:14:32.920
<v Speaker 1>it first started off as a hobbyist thing, and then

0:14:33.160 --> 0:14:35.840
<v Speaker 1>you know, you had bleeding edge adopters who might not

0:14:36.280 --> 0:14:38.800
<v Speaker 1>build a computer, but they're curious about how they might

0:14:38.920 --> 0:14:43.720
<v Speaker 1>use it. And then later you had people who were uh,

0:14:43.760 --> 0:14:46.280
<v Speaker 1>you know more it became more and more mainstream as

0:14:46.320 --> 0:14:49.680
<v Speaker 1>time went on. So we've seen other emerging technologies that

0:14:49.720 --> 0:14:53.600
<v Speaker 1>have followed a similar pathway to radio. Uh not always

0:14:53.680 --> 0:14:56.600
<v Speaker 1>with the dramatics. I mean, there were some definite dramatics

0:14:56.600 --> 0:15:00.520
<v Speaker 1>and early personal computers too. But we got some crazy

0:15:00.600 --> 0:15:03.480
<v Speaker 1>stories to tell. But first, we have another big name

0:15:03.520 --> 0:15:05.360
<v Speaker 1>in radio that we have to mention. Yeah, so in

0:15:05.440 --> 0:15:09.760
<v Speaker 1>nineteen ten, this guy lead to Forest really broadcasted like

0:15:09.880 --> 0:15:16.600
<v Speaker 1>the first sort of broad meant for mass communication radio broadcast, uh,

0:15:16.640 --> 0:15:21.320
<v Speaker 1>specifically of a guy named Enrico Caruso singing. I believe

0:15:21.320 --> 0:15:24.640
<v Speaker 1>it was opera singing from what I understood, um, and

0:15:24.880 --> 0:15:28.640
<v Speaker 1>he he ushered in this area era of radio communications.

0:15:29.320 --> 0:15:33.120
<v Speaker 1>And unfortunately, though even though he was broadcasting probably on

0:15:33.160 --> 0:15:36.480
<v Speaker 1>Fessenden's news system, for the most part it was static

0:15:36.560 --> 0:15:39.800
<v Speaker 1>and radio interference, so the audience barely heard anything. But

0:15:40.720 --> 0:15:43.280
<v Speaker 1>you know, for a decade afterwards, radio fans were both

0:15:43.400 --> 0:15:48.760
<v Speaker 1>using uh, these amateur radio units to broadcast and receive. Yeah,

0:15:48.760 --> 0:15:51.840
<v Speaker 1>it wasn't just them receiving. Yeah, it wasn't like they

0:15:51.880 --> 0:15:55.440
<v Speaker 1>were a passive audience. They were creating as well. And again,

0:15:56.360 --> 0:15:59.640
<v Speaker 1>depending upon the power of their radio transmitters, it may

0:15:59.680 --> 0:16:01.800
<v Speaker 1>be the they were only transmitting to people in their

0:16:01.840 --> 0:16:06.480
<v Speaker 1>general neighborhood or even small town, but you wouldn't be

0:16:06.520 --> 0:16:08.920
<v Speaker 1>able to necessarily pick up that signal for much further,

0:16:08.960 --> 0:16:11.120
<v Speaker 1>it also depends on the quality of the receiver as well.

0:16:11.160 --> 0:16:15.200
<v Speaker 1>Like you could build a very simple a radio receiver

0:16:15.320 --> 0:16:18.000
<v Speaker 1>that doesn't even require a battery and as a crystal,

0:16:18.080 --> 0:16:22.120
<v Speaker 1>a very long antenna and some headphones, and uh, you

0:16:22.120 --> 0:16:24.680
<v Speaker 1>can pick up radio signals if you're close enough to

0:16:24.800 --> 0:16:27.560
<v Speaker 1>a transmitter. Uh. And in fact, that's a fun project

0:16:27.560 --> 0:16:29.440
<v Speaker 1>to do. You can look up how to do that online.

0:16:30.000 --> 0:16:32.560
<v Speaker 1>So also in nineteen ten, the same time Leada Forest

0:16:32.640 --> 0:16:34.760
<v Speaker 1>was was experimenting with us, you had a guy named

0:16:34.840 --> 0:16:38.480
<v Speaker 1>Charles David Harold who opened a school that he called

0:16:38.600 --> 0:16:41.800
<v Speaker 1>the Herald College of Engineering and Wireless and he was

0:16:41.840 --> 0:16:44.800
<v Speaker 1>experimenting with wireless voice transmissions as early as nineteen o

0:16:44.960 --> 0:16:48.760
<v Speaker 1>nine and providing a thrill to telegraph operators who suddenly

0:16:48.760 --> 0:16:51.200
<v Speaker 1>were able to hear voices over the telegraph lines. Now

0:16:51.240 --> 0:16:55.320
<v Speaker 1>this is out in California, so he's surprising people out

0:16:55.360 --> 0:16:58.520
<v Speaker 1>there who normally they weren't expecting it at all, but

0:16:58.560 --> 0:17:01.400
<v Speaker 1>they loved it because you would have imagine this job

0:17:01.520 --> 0:17:05.439
<v Speaker 1>is a little probably very tedious. Yeah. So he actually

0:17:05.480 --> 0:17:09.679
<v Speaker 1>started setting up a regular broadcast time like the first

0:17:09.840 --> 0:17:13.199
<v Speaker 1>radio programming in a way, and by nineteen ten he

0:17:13.240 --> 0:17:16.480
<v Speaker 1>had created this, uh, this program that would include reading

0:17:16.480 --> 0:17:20.560
<v Speaker 1>out news to telegraph operators. And his wife Sybil got

0:17:20.600 --> 0:17:24.119
<v Speaker 1>involved and she started playing records that the description I

0:17:24.160 --> 0:17:26.359
<v Speaker 1>said was the kind of records young people like to

0:17:26.400 --> 0:17:32.520
<v Speaker 1>listen to. Back in Yeah, so playing records, So playing

0:17:32.560 --> 0:17:38.600
<v Speaker 1>music for these telegraph operators and holding the first radio contests.

0:17:39.560 --> 0:17:42.399
<v Speaker 1>And here's how the radio contest work back then. She

0:17:42.520 --> 0:17:46.480
<v Speaker 1>would instruct people listening to come by their house, sign

0:17:46.560 --> 0:17:48.760
<v Speaker 1>a guest book with their name and where they were from,

0:17:48.800 --> 0:17:52.119
<v Speaker 1>and then they might win a little prize. Was number seven. No,

0:17:52.520 --> 0:17:56.040
<v Speaker 1>it wasn't calling number seven. Uh. And here's the coolest part.

0:17:56.080 --> 0:17:59.720
<v Speaker 1>I think this little amateur station eventually over time and

0:18:00.280 --> 0:18:05.560
<v Speaker 1>twenty one would become kq W, and in ninete it

0:18:05.600 --> 0:18:11.240
<v Speaker 1>would evolve into k CBS as then the CBS. Yeah.

0:18:11.400 --> 0:18:13.760
<v Speaker 1>I thought that was really interesting, especially like we'll talk

0:18:13.840 --> 0:18:17.280
<v Speaker 1>later about, CBS is sort of importance in a big

0:18:17.320 --> 0:18:20.960
<v Speaker 1>game of radio development. Yeah. So nineteen ten is also

0:18:20.960 --> 0:18:23.800
<v Speaker 1>when the US passed the Wireless Ship Act, which required

0:18:23.840 --> 0:18:26.400
<v Speaker 1>all ships of the US traveling more than two miles

0:18:26.400 --> 0:18:29.159
<v Speaker 1>off the coast and carrying more than fifty passengers to

0:18:29.280 --> 0:18:32.840
<v Speaker 1>have a wireless radio equipment on board with a with

0:18:32.920 --> 0:18:36.239
<v Speaker 1>an operator, and the transmission range had to be at

0:18:36.280 --> 0:18:39.480
<v Speaker 1>least a hundred miles. And that meant that it created

0:18:39.640 --> 0:18:44.560
<v Speaker 1>a lot more radio transmissions broadcast without any regulation. This

0:18:44.640 --> 0:18:47.480
<v Speaker 1>is where the United States government starts to say, this

0:18:47.560 --> 0:18:50.159
<v Speaker 1>is going to become a problem because now we we

0:18:50.200 --> 0:18:52.280
<v Speaker 1>already have a lot of radio traffic going on just

0:18:52.359 --> 0:18:55.800
<v Speaker 1>through amateurs as well as ship to land land to

0:18:55.840 --> 0:18:58.880
<v Speaker 1>ship communication. Uh. It's starting to get a little crowded

0:18:58.920 --> 0:19:00.560
<v Speaker 1>and we're starting to get interfere rants. We need to

0:19:00.560 --> 0:19:03.240
<v Speaker 1>figure out how to handle this. So in nineteen twelve,

0:19:03.280 --> 0:19:05.760
<v Speaker 1>they passed the Radio Act of nineteen twelve, which is

0:19:05.760 --> 0:19:07.359
<v Speaker 1>good because if they had passed the Radio Act of

0:19:07.440 --> 0:19:10.920
<v Speaker 1>nineteen twelve and nineteen eleven, everyone would have been confused. Uh.

0:19:10.960 --> 0:19:13.320
<v Speaker 1>And marked the first time the US government required radio

0:19:13.320 --> 0:19:16.840
<v Speaker 1>stations to be licensed. So the licensing was really just

0:19:16.880 --> 0:19:20.320
<v Speaker 1>to create order in chaos. Uh. And it was really

0:19:20.400 --> 0:19:23.879
<v Speaker 1>kind of like, you know, we want to make sure

0:19:24.000 --> 0:19:27.200
<v Speaker 1>that we're keeping certain frequencies free so that we can

0:19:27.400 --> 0:19:33.320
<v Speaker 1>have these these very important transmissions go uninterrupted because am transmissions,

0:19:33.320 --> 0:19:35.840
<v Speaker 1>if you transmit two things on the same frequency, you

0:19:35.880 --> 0:19:39.199
<v Speaker 1>get lots of interference and just different from There was

0:19:39.600 --> 0:19:42.840
<v Speaker 1>a military component to this as well, because World War

0:19:42.920 --> 0:19:47.320
<v Speaker 1>One was on the horizon, was happening, and they the

0:19:47.440 --> 0:19:53.159
<v Speaker 1>government banned amateur radio broadcasting during the war for you know,

0:19:53.200 --> 0:19:55.960
<v Speaker 1>the reason that they were trying to transmit signals to

0:19:56.000 --> 0:19:59.560
<v Speaker 1>one another of important nature. If somebody was talking in

0:19:59.600 --> 0:20:03.280
<v Speaker 1>their girl raj about um uh, you know their favorite

0:20:03.280 --> 0:20:06.440
<v Speaker 1>records the young people listen to. Yeah, the ones that

0:20:06.480 --> 0:20:08.879
<v Speaker 1>the young people listen to, they would overlap and they

0:20:08.880 --> 0:20:11.400
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't get these important messages, so they shut it all down.

0:20:11.600 --> 0:20:16.240
<v Speaker 1>And also just radio detection to the the remote possibility

0:20:16.280 --> 0:20:21.000
<v Speaker 1>that they might detect radio transmissions from either allies or enemies.

0:20:21.720 --> 0:20:26.239
<v Speaker 1>It would mean that yeah, yeah, this is this is

0:20:26.600 --> 0:20:29.600
<v Speaker 1>before the whole Bletchley Park on Dygma thing, which is

0:20:30.080 --> 0:20:32.080
<v Speaker 1>I've talked about that in the previous episode of tech Stuff.

0:20:32.080 --> 0:20:36.600
<v Speaker 1>But fascinating story. So Uren Edwin Armstrong, who's going to

0:20:36.640 --> 0:20:40.720
<v Speaker 1>be important throughout this conversation, and his story is amazing

0:20:40.760 --> 0:20:44.560
<v Speaker 1>and tragic. Uh. He patents a radio receiver circuit that

0:20:44.680 --> 0:20:48.040
<v Speaker 1>increases the selectivity which allows you to tune into specific

0:20:48.040 --> 0:20:52.040
<v Speaker 1>frequencies and the sensitivity of radio receivers. That means it

0:20:52.080 --> 0:20:55.840
<v Speaker 1>was able to pick up weaker radio signals than previous receivers.

0:20:55.880 --> 0:20:58.359
<v Speaker 1>So selectivity obviously very important. You want to be able

0:20:58.440 --> 0:21:01.840
<v Speaker 1>to say I'm looking at this picular band of frequencies

0:21:02.200 --> 0:21:05.600
<v Speaker 1>and I don't want anything outside of that. Um, and

0:21:05.720 --> 0:21:08.240
<v Speaker 1>we would see that get better and better in he

0:21:08.280 --> 0:21:14.840
<v Speaker 1>would invent the super heterodyne radio receiver or superhead. So

0:21:14.920 --> 0:21:17.800
<v Speaker 1>this principle is actually really fascinating, and I gotta admit

0:21:17.800 --> 0:21:21.359
<v Speaker 1>to you, a Christian, I had to really sit down

0:21:21.400 --> 0:21:23.320
<v Speaker 1>and read this a few times to kind of get

0:21:23.359 --> 0:21:26.600
<v Speaker 1>what was going on. Yeah, because I mean this is radio,

0:21:27.040 --> 0:21:32.159
<v Speaker 1>electromagnetic and radio broadcast. I have a basic understanding of it,

0:21:32.200 --> 0:21:34.640
<v Speaker 1>but it does go well beyond what I studied in school.

0:21:35.160 --> 0:21:36.880
<v Speaker 1>And it took a while, but now I think I've

0:21:36.920 --> 0:21:38.680
<v Speaker 1>got it. Will explain it to me, because yeah, I'm

0:21:38.720 --> 0:21:41.200
<v Speaker 1>more of the on the side of the like cultural

0:21:41.240 --> 0:21:45.879
<v Speaker 1>examination of radio, whereas like the technology of it escapes

0:21:45.920 --> 0:21:49.480
<v Speaker 1>me sometimes, So yeah, hit me. All right. Let's say,

0:21:49.720 --> 0:21:53.719
<v Speaker 1>let's say I want to transmit a radio signal at

0:21:53.720 --> 0:21:55.840
<v Speaker 1>a high frequency, so it's not going to interfere with

0:21:55.840 --> 0:22:01.159
<v Speaker 1>anything else, but that processing high frequencies is a little tricky,

0:22:01.240 --> 0:22:05.200
<v Speaker 1>so you might have a receiver that can process frequencies

0:22:05.280 --> 0:22:08.280
<v Speaker 1>up to I'm just going to take an arbitrary number

0:22:09.480 --> 0:22:13.400
<v Speaker 1>killer hurts, but I want to transmit at fifteen hundred

0:22:13.720 --> 0:22:17.679
<v Speaker 1>killer hurts. If I were to introduce that frequency to

0:22:17.840 --> 0:22:22.560
<v Speaker 1>an oscillator tuned to a different frequency, suddenly I would

0:22:22.600 --> 0:22:25.879
<v Speaker 1>be able to receive that. Uh, not just at the

0:22:25.920 --> 0:22:29.440
<v Speaker 1>original frequency I transmit at, but the difference between that

0:22:29.600 --> 0:22:33.280
<v Speaker 1>and the oscillating one. So another easy example, let's say

0:22:33.320 --> 0:22:38.320
<v Speaker 1>they have an oscillating frequency at a thousand killer hurts. Okay,

0:22:38.880 --> 0:22:41.920
<v Speaker 1>that would mean that if you used a receiver tune

0:22:41.960 --> 0:22:46.840
<v Speaker 1>to five killer hurts, killer hurts or two thousand five

0:22:47.200 --> 0:22:49.680
<v Speaker 1>killer hurts, you would pick up that signal and could

0:22:49.680 --> 0:22:52.919
<v Speaker 1>process it. Okay. So and I'm imagining that this is

0:22:52.960 --> 0:22:55.679
<v Speaker 1>a process that's still used today. Yeah. This is the

0:22:55.720 --> 0:23:00.240
<v Speaker 1>principle of transmitting and receiving with a radio so that

0:23:00.280 --> 0:23:03.000
<v Speaker 1>your radio doesn't have to have as wide a spectrum.

0:23:03.160 --> 0:23:06.080
<v Speaker 1>It's called inter minute frequency. And it took me a

0:23:06.119 --> 0:23:08.240
<v Speaker 1>long time to figure out what was going on. Is

0:23:08.240 --> 0:23:10.800
<v Speaker 1>the oscillator that was throwing me off? And then I realized, oh,

0:23:10.840 --> 0:23:13.679
<v Speaker 1>the oscillators tuned to a different frequency, and that's what

0:23:13.840 --> 0:23:16.320
<v Speaker 1>gives you the broader range that you can pick up.

0:23:16.800 --> 0:23:20.880
<v Speaker 1>It's pretty fascinating. And again Armstrong was absolutely brilliant coming

0:23:20.960 --> 0:23:23.840
<v Speaker 1>up with this. Uh. And then we move up to

0:23:23.960 --> 0:23:26.760
<v Speaker 1>the nineteen twenties. Yeah, and the twenties is when this

0:23:27.000 --> 0:23:29.280
<v Speaker 1>educational stuff that I was talking about earlier. It really

0:23:29.320 --> 0:23:31.680
<v Speaker 1>hits a boom. There was like more than two hundred

0:23:31.880 --> 0:23:36.040
<v Speaker 1>educational organizations across the United States of America that, uh,

0:23:36.240 --> 0:23:40.240
<v Speaker 1>we're requesting broadcasting licenses so that they could transmit. And

0:23:40.480 --> 0:23:44.119
<v Speaker 1>whether they were using it as a an opportunity for

0:23:44.160 --> 0:23:47.480
<v Speaker 1>their students to learn about the technology or to broadcast

0:23:47.560 --> 0:23:51.280
<v Speaker 1>educational information didn't really matter. The unfortunate thing is that

0:23:51.640 --> 0:23:56.560
<v Speaker 1>thirteen years later, by n three or more of these

0:23:57.040 --> 0:24:00.919
<v Speaker 1>educational institutions had folded and in basically it was because

0:24:00.960 --> 0:24:02.400
<v Speaker 1>of and this is going to be a huge theme

0:24:02.400 --> 0:24:07.160
<v Speaker 1>of this episode, because of ad based programming and stronger stations,

0:24:07.200 --> 0:24:10.680
<v Speaker 1>commercial stations that were able to overlap their signal. Yeah,

0:24:10.760 --> 0:24:14.960
<v Speaker 1>you essentially had not just the fact that the companies

0:24:15.000 --> 0:24:19.480
<v Speaker 1>had more technological behind them, but the government was favoring

0:24:19.560 --> 0:24:24.000
<v Speaker 1>those over the educational ones. When we get into a

0:24:24.000 --> 0:24:26.480
<v Speaker 1>little bit more about the politics, you're going to hear

0:24:26.520 --> 0:24:31.080
<v Speaker 1>that repeated a few times, and it's it's a little upsetting, honestly.

0:24:31.040 --> 0:24:33.440
<v Speaker 1>And I also i'd like to say, like, it's interesting

0:24:33.480 --> 0:24:37.840
<v Speaker 1>because despite whatever my political beliefs are reading one of

0:24:37.840 --> 0:24:40.640
<v Speaker 1>the articles that we used as as research for this

0:24:40.760 --> 0:24:44.959
<v Speaker 1>was written in nineteen from the perspective of somebody at

0:24:44.960 --> 0:24:50.000
<v Speaker 1>Harvard University looking back at the Federal Radio Radio Commission

0:24:50.480 --> 0:24:52.439
<v Speaker 1>before it turned into the f CC that we have

0:24:52.640 --> 0:24:55.199
<v Speaker 1>now and kind of just doing a broad review of

0:24:55.200 --> 0:24:59.080
<v Speaker 1>the last like ten years of this. And it's very,

0:24:59.240 --> 0:25:01.960
<v Speaker 1>very similar and reminiscent of arguments that we've seen with

0:25:02.040 --> 0:25:04.960
<v Speaker 1>media throughout the last hundred years and that we're seeing

0:25:05.080 --> 0:25:09.040
<v Speaker 1>right now in arguments about net neutrality. Yeah, it's really

0:25:09.200 --> 0:25:12.359
<v Speaker 1>similar to net neutrality, the idea being that everyone should

0:25:12.359 --> 0:25:16.080
<v Speaker 1>be free to use the Internet to send and receive

0:25:16.200 --> 0:25:20.600
<v Speaker 1>whatever information they want. In radio, we saw the same argument,

0:25:20.640 --> 0:25:23.239
<v Speaker 1>except in that case radio it was it ended up

0:25:23.280 --> 0:25:26.879
<v Speaker 1>being that those folks were kind of pushed away and

0:25:26.920 --> 0:25:30.600
<v Speaker 1>that the the the corporations, the companies that had the

0:25:30.680 --> 0:25:34.000
<v Speaker 1>money were the ones that had the voice. Yeah, and

0:25:34.000 --> 0:25:36.280
<v Speaker 1>and so like you know, as we're talking earlier, there's

0:25:36.320 --> 0:25:39.240
<v Speaker 1>these amateur radio stations, right and they here's the kind

0:25:39.240 --> 0:25:42.119
<v Speaker 1>of content you might find on amateur radio stations. Maybe

0:25:42.119 --> 0:25:44.560
<v Speaker 1>somebody is giving a sermon there, or they're they're they're

0:25:44.560 --> 0:25:47.720
<v Speaker 1>just reading out of their Bible, or they're talking about

0:25:47.800 --> 0:25:52.080
<v Speaker 1>sports out of today's newspaper, updating their neighborhood on what

0:25:52.200 --> 0:25:55.280
<v Speaker 1>happened in sports around the country that day. Maybe they're

0:25:55.280 --> 0:25:58.159
<v Speaker 1>reading a poem, maybe they're giving a speech about something

0:25:58.160 --> 0:26:02.680
<v Speaker 1>political at the time. Perhaps the usage of radio or

0:26:02.960 --> 0:26:06.879
<v Speaker 1>like we were talking earlier, just playing records and at

0:26:06.920 --> 0:26:10.040
<v Speaker 1>the time there was no you know, licensing or copyright

0:26:10.040 --> 0:26:14.199
<v Speaker 1>and effect for for how music was broadcasted, So they

0:26:14.320 --> 0:26:17.000
<v Speaker 1>just throw any record on and kind of entertain the neighborhood.

0:26:17.200 --> 0:26:19.360
<v Speaker 1>Right in a way, you can think of it as

0:26:19.400 --> 0:26:22.359
<v Speaker 1>like the predecessor of blogs. Yeah, you know it really

0:26:22.480 --> 0:26:26.639
<v Speaker 1>in a in a real way, it was and uh,

0:26:26.840 --> 0:26:29.919
<v Speaker 1>this was amazing. This was an ability for someone to

0:26:30.000 --> 0:26:33.000
<v Speaker 1>have a platform to have their voice heard. Some people

0:26:33.480 --> 0:26:36.199
<v Speaker 1>made very good use of that. Some people may you

0:26:36.240 --> 0:26:40.320
<v Speaker 1>may think, made frivolous use of it, just like what

0:26:40.440 --> 0:26:43.600
<v Speaker 1>we see on the internet. Sure, yeah, exactly. And that's

0:26:43.640 --> 0:26:47.040
<v Speaker 1>just like blogging, except for for people like us, I suppose,

0:26:47.080 --> 0:26:50.480
<v Speaker 1>who do get paid to do it. A lot of

0:26:50.520 --> 0:26:54.280
<v Speaker 1>these these amateur radioists that they weren't getting paid for this.

0:26:54.320 --> 0:26:56.040
<v Speaker 1>They had day jobs. In fact, like one of the

0:26:56.040 --> 0:26:58.560
<v Speaker 1>stories I read was about how there's this guy who

0:26:58.640 --> 0:27:01.119
<v Speaker 1>ran a gas station, but he also had a radio

0:27:01.160 --> 0:27:03.200
<v Speaker 1>station running out of his gas station, and so he'd

0:27:03.200 --> 0:27:05.200
<v Speaker 1>be on air and then he'd say, hold on a minute,

0:27:05.240 --> 0:27:08.560
<v Speaker 1>I have to go, uh sell some gas, and he'd go.

0:27:08.680 --> 0:27:11.600
<v Speaker 1>He'd disappeared for five minutes, and they'd come back and

0:27:11.640 --> 0:27:14.480
<v Speaker 1>just pick up again. And that was just how it is.

0:27:14.520 --> 0:27:18.120
<v Speaker 1>They didn't really worry about dead air or anything like that. Yeah. Um.

0:27:18.320 --> 0:27:20.520
<v Speaker 1>And and at the same time, there's also this other,

0:27:20.600 --> 0:27:23.840
<v Speaker 1>like broader, more important thing, which I think is why

0:27:24.440 --> 0:27:26.800
<v Speaker 1>the government started to become more involved in it, which

0:27:26.800 --> 0:27:31.040
<v Speaker 1>is that radio allowed the listeners to sample other cultures

0:27:31.480 --> 0:27:35.360
<v Speaker 1>from far away states that and and and learn more

0:27:35.400 --> 0:27:38.439
<v Speaker 1>about what this kind of idea of America as a

0:27:38.600 --> 0:27:41.320
<v Speaker 1>nation meant. You know, even though they may have never

0:27:41.440 --> 0:27:45.560
<v Speaker 1>visited Nebraska, they would be hearing what these amateur radioists

0:27:45.600 --> 0:27:48.800
<v Speaker 1>in Nebraska were talking about. They were giving them sort

0:27:48.840 --> 0:27:52.040
<v Speaker 1>of a peek into what the culture in those towns were.

0:27:52.080 --> 0:27:56.720
<v Speaker 1>Like it's really cool. Yeah, yeah, absolutely yeah. Moving over

0:27:56.800 --> 0:27:59.800
<v Speaker 1>to ninety that's when we get the first commercial radio

0:27:59.800 --> 0:28:03.879
<v Speaker 1>sta Asian launching. That's Kadi k A. Now, amateur radio stations,

0:28:03.880 --> 0:28:06.280
<v Speaker 1>like Christian was saying, had already been around, and a

0:28:06.280 --> 0:28:09.360
<v Speaker 1>guy named Henry P. Davis was inspired by an amateur

0:28:09.440 --> 0:28:12.480
<v Speaker 1>named Frank Conrad and saw the potential to actually make

0:28:12.520 --> 0:28:15.359
<v Speaker 1>some money off this whole radio thing, and not just

0:28:15.440 --> 0:28:18.080
<v Speaker 1>not just broadcast out for free, but to actually make

0:28:18.080 --> 0:28:21.640
<v Speaker 1>it a commercial enterprise. So the radio station went live

0:28:21.720 --> 0:28:25.120
<v Speaker 1>on November two, nineteen twenty. Henry P. Davis himself read

0:28:25.160 --> 0:28:27.640
<v Speaker 1>out the results of the presidential elections on the air,

0:28:28.720 --> 0:28:32.919
<v Speaker 1>and he would become heavily involved in broadcast radio, in

0:28:32.960 --> 0:28:37.240
<v Speaker 1>fact becoming the first chairman of the National Broadcasting Company

0:28:37.640 --> 0:28:44.400
<v Speaker 1>also known as NBC, so in yeah, exactly, Yeah. Then

0:28:44.440 --> 0:28:47.400
<v Speaker 1>the opening of thirty Rock in nineteen six. Kadi k

0:28:47.520 --> 0:28:51.880
<v Speaker 1>A was owned and operated by Westinghouse Electric and Manufacturing Company,

0:28:52.040 --> 0:28:54.800
<v Speaker 1>and you might not be surprised to hear that Westinghouse

0:28:54.920 --> 0:28:57.920
<v Speaker 1>used the radio station as a means of convincing people

0:28:57.960 --> 0:29:01.120
<v Speaker 1>to go out and buy radios, because up to this point,

0:29:01.400 --> 0:29:03.720
<v Speaker 1>again it was very much an amateur thing. People who

0:29:03.720 --> 0:29:06.920
<v Speaker 1>were interested in the science would go out and get

0:29:06.960 --> 0:29:09.600
<v Speaker 1>the equipment or build the equipment from there from whatever

0:29:09.640 --> 0:29:12.880
<v Speaker 1>they could, and that's how they participated. But now we're

0:29:12.880 --> 0:29:15.680
<v Speaker 1>talking about actually making commercial radio sets for people to

0:29:15.720 --> 0:29:18.000
<v Speaker 1>go out and buy. And this is also the beginning

0:29:18.000 --> 0:29:20.400
<v Speaker 1>of things starting to get a little dodgy on the

0:29:20.440 --> 0:29:25.600
<v Speaker 1>corporate side of things, because previously the patents for radios

0:29:25.600 --> 0:29:28.320
<v Speaker 1>were all over the place. But what happened was the

0:29:28.360 --> 0:29:32.040
<v Speaker 1>big companies G E, A, T and T. Weird, they're

0:29:32.080 --> 0:29:35.080
<v Speaker 1>such a familiar name nowadays, G A, T and T,

0:29:35.360 --> 0:29:38.920
<v Speaker 1>International Radio and Telegraph and Westinghouse all got together and said,

0:29:39.000 --> 0:29:43.560
<v Speaker 1>let's pull together our patents, and they created our c A,

0:29:43.600 --> 0:29:46.960
<v Speaker 1>the Radio Corporation of America, for the express purpose of

0:29:47.000 --> 0:29:50.680
<v Speaker 1>allowing them to build and sell radio equipment like transmitters

0:29:50.680 --> 0:29:55.040
<v Speaker 1>and receivers that were designed not for broadcast broadcast but

0:29:55.160 --> 0:29:59.960
<v Speaker 1>for for telegraphing, but also to keep these amateur radio

0:30:00.200 --> 0:30:04.320
<v Speaker 1>wash out of business physically, so that they couldn't just

0:30:04.360 --> 0:30:07.280
<v Speaker 1>go and buy an out of the box kit anymore.

0:30:07.520 --> 0:30:09.400
<v Speaker 1>They would have to they would have to really build

0:30:09.440 --> 0:30:13.440
<v Speaker 1>it themselves. R c A flexed its muscles in ways

0:30:13.560 --> 0:30:17.720
<v Speaker 1>that I think just about anyone would describe as odious

0:30:18.000 --> 0:30:20.440
<v Speaker 1>and uh and a lot of the stories we're gonna cover,

0:30:20.600 --> 0:30:24.240
<v Speaker 1>yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, um. And what's kind of interesting

0:30:24.320 --> 0:30:26.680
<v Speaker 1>is just that, you know, there's there's this other article

0:30:26.760 --> 0:30:29.640
<v Speaker 1>that I read for this that was called the Design

0:30:29.760 --> 0:30:32.680
<v Speaker 1>of Symbiosis that was all about, you know, the the

0:30:33.080 --> 0:30:36.520
<v Speaker 1>longevity of radio and then these corporations interacting. And there's

0:30:36.520 --> 0:30:38.040
<v Speaker 1>a quote from it that I want to read, which

0:30:38.080 --> 0:30:42.200
<v Speaker 1>is about this specific thing says it was no accident

0:30:42.280 --> 0:30:46.320
<v Speaker 1>that the General Electric Corporation G, after acquiring rights to

0:30:46.360 --> 0:30:50.160
<v Speaker 1>the Marconi wireless patents in the United States, spearheaded the

0:30:50.200 --> 0:30:53.920
<v Speaker 1>formation of the r c A, which in turn launched

0:30:53.960 --> 0:30:59.000
<v Speaker 1>the National Broadcasting Corporation NBC, one of g S many subsidiaries.

0:30:59.080 --> 0:31:03.800
<v Speaker 1>It still is, I believe right. Well again you got Universal, Yeah, great,

0:31:04.520 --> 0:31:07.200
<v Speaker 1>it's even larger than that and a leading content company.

0:31:07.440 --> 0:31:10.080
<v Speaker 1>So it's like one thing led to another, from one

0:31:10.120 --> 0:31:12.520
<v Speaker 1>corporation to the next. Is they kind of built out

0:31:12.560 --> 0:31:15.880
<v Speaker 1>their their subsidiaries and spread their spread out kind of

0:31:15.880 --> 0:31:18.760
<v Speaker 1>like an umbrella and it and it. Don't get me wrong,

0:31:18.800 --> 0:31:22.719
<v Speaker 1>this wasn't all negative. They were very positive effects at

0:31:22.720 --> 0:31:29.720
<v Speaker 1>the time as well. From this, I love that you

0:31:29.800 --> 0:31:32.880
<v Speaker 1>have this bit about a T and T and there

0:31:33.360 --> 0:31:35.480
<v Speaker 1>their business strategy that this is one of the So

0:31:35.520 --> 0:31:41.000
<v Speaker 1>apparently they like repeatedly, we're trying to charge people for

0:31:41.560 --> 0:31:44.520
<v Speaker 1>commercial broadcasting over their sets, and they wanted to charge

0:31:44.560 --> 0:31:46.800
<v Speaker 1>tolls in the same way that they were charging people

0:31:46.840 --> 0:31:49.400
<v Speaker 1>for phone calls. Which I think is amazing when you

0:31:49.440 --> 0:31:51.640
<v Speaker 1>when you think about it, you know, there's just these

0:31:52.000 --> 0:31:56.600
<v Speaker 1>these negotiations between the public and the large corporations. When

0:31:56.640 --> 0:32:01.040
<v Speaker 1>these new media hit the scene, and we're experiencing it

0:32:01.120 --> 0:32:03.960
<v Speaker 1>right now, we'll probably always be experiencing it, I imagine. So,

0:32:04.480 --> 0:32:07.200
<v Speaker 1>and it's interesting to you. You make a delineation in

0:32:07.200 --> 0:32:11.680
<v Speaker 1>our notes about how how the radio system is treated

0:32:11.720 --> 0:32:17.320
<v Speaker 1>in America versus in other nations, right, yeah, So the

0:32:17.320 --> 0:32:20.240
<v Speaker 1>thing that's unique about the American radio system. This isn't

0:32:20.240 --> 0:32:23.360
<v Speaker 1>to say that that no other countries did this, but

0:32:23.400 --> 0:32:27.400
<v Speaker 1>the American radio system specifically evolved as a unique combination

0:32:27.480 --> 0:32:30.440
<v Speaker 1>between private enterprises like these ones that we were just

0:32:30.480 --> 0:32:34.440
<v Speaker 1>talking about, in government regulation, whereas in other countries, for

0:32:34.520 --> 0:32:37.840
<v Speaker 1>the most part, it went for public ownership. So places

0:32:37.840 --> 0:32:41.520
<v Speaker 1>like Iceland, the United Kingdom obviously with the BBC, Italy,

0:32:41.720 --> 0:32:47.400
<v Speaker 1>Turkey and the USS are it was all public um.

0:32:47.440 --> 0:32:51.280
<v Speaker 1>And so the problem that radio had that was unique

0:32:51.280 --> 0:32:54.480
<v Speaker 1>in America was that all of these consumers could receive

0:32:54.600 --> 0:32:59.000
<v Speaker 1>any signal at equal equality, very much like again blogging,

0:32:59.120 --> 0:33:04.040
<v Speaker 1>right sure in theory, and that any broadcaster, however, whether

0:33:04.120 --> 0:33:07.600
<v Speaker 1>it's NBC or a guy operating out of his garage

0:33:07.920 --> 0:33:12.120
<v Speaker 1>would be able to overwhelm multiple frequencies and overwrite what

0:33:12.240 --> 0:33:16.719
<v Speaker 1>was being played by somebody else's broadcast. Yeah, the very

0:33:16.800 --> 0:33:20.280
<v Speaker 1>least you could interfere with the signal. Um, we'll talk

0:33:20.320 --> 0:33:23.000
<v Speaker 1>about FM and a little bit. The interesting difference, one

0:33:23.000 --> 0:33:25.920
<v Speaker 1>of the many interesting differences between a M and FM

0:33:26.080 --> 0:33:29.520
<v Speaker 1>is if you have two AM broadcasts that are coming

0:33:29.520 --> 0:33:32.040
<v Speaker 1>out at the same signal, they interfere with one another

0:33:32.120 --> 0:33:34.040
<v Speaker 1>the same frequency, I should say, they interfere with one

0:33:34.080 --> 0:33:37.240
<v Speaker 1>of FM. If you have two of the same frequency,

0:33:37.640 --> 0:33:41.040
<v Speaker 1>it's whichever frequency is the most powerful is the one

0:33:41.080 --> 0:33:45.280
<v Speaker 1>you will receive. So you could have a little station

0:33:46.080 --> 0:33:48.920
<v Speaker 1>that is broadcasting in a very small amount of power

0:33:49.280 --> 0:33:51.520
<v Speaker 1>that if you are close to it, you would be

0:33:51.560 --> 0:33:54.120
<v Speaker 1>able to pick it up on an FM band that

0:33:54.120 --> 0:33:56.440
<v Speaker 1>would normally be for a radio station that might be

0:33:56.600 --> 0:33:59.800
<v Speaker 1>miles away, that could be a giant corporations one. So

0:34:00.280 --> 0:34:02.360
<v Speaker 1>there was a lot of back and forth with this too,

0:34:02.400 --> 0:34:04.440
<v Speaker 1>which is today we think of this. You and I

0:34:04.480 --> 0:34:06.440
<v Speaker 1>were talking about this the other day when we proposed

0:34:06.520 --> 0:34:08.920
<v Speaker 1>this idea. We think of it as pirate radio, right,

0:34:09.239 --> 0:34:11.200
<v Speaker 1>and I think I always think of pop up the

0:34:11.280 --> 0:34:14.360
<v Speaker 1>volume of the volume. Yeah, and Christians later driving around

0:34:14.360 --> 0:34:16.800
<v Speaker 1>his neighborhood with his his pirate radio station at the

0:34:16.840 --> 0:34:19.399
<v Speaker 1>back of his car. Yeah, it's also similar. I did

0:34:19.440 --> 0:34:23.680
<v Speaker 1>a story with Chuck Bryant about it was television, not radio,

0:34:23.760 --> 0:34:27.400
<v Speaker 1>but the same same principle, uh the Max Headroom incident

0:34:27.480 --> 0:34:31.360
<v Speaker 1>where in Chicago that was also the same principle as

0:34:31.440 --> 0:34:34.240
<v Speaker 1>FM radio, and that if you were able to send

0:34:34.239 --> 0:34:36.480
<v Speaker 1>a signal along the same frequency but at a higher

0:34:36.480 --> 0:34:39.640
<v Speaker 1>power rate, then you could overpower that and people would

0:34:39.680 --> 0:34:44.279
<v Speaker 1>receive your signal not someone else's. Yeah, but anyway, and

0:34:44.320 --> 0:34:46.960
<v Speaker 1>so as these these conflicts are going on, these like

0:34:47.040 --> 0:34:51.520
<v Speaker 1>weird ven diagrams of stations playing up against one another,

0:34:52.160 --> 0:34:55.080
<v Speaker 1>the government starts to become interested as we as we've

0:34:55.080 --> 0:34:58.600
<v Speaker 1>talked about, and especially because of military reasons. So the

0:34:58.680 --> 0:35:01.320
<v Speaker 1>Navy says, you know what, we should really take control

0:35:01.360 --> 0:35:03.520
<v Speaker 1>of this as a means of national defense. And the

0:35:03.560 --> 0:35:05.400
<v Speaker 1>way that they thought it should be run was basically

0:35:05.440 --> 0:35:08.760
<v Speaker 1>like the post office, that the you know, the federal

0:35:08.800 --> 0:35:13.920
<v Speaker 1>government should own and control what is broadcast on radio signals.

0:35:14.080 --> 0:35:16.799
<v Speaker 1>Obviously that that didn't end up happening, But then you

0:35:16.840 --> 0:35:21.160
<v Speaker 1>get this huge boom because of the amateur radio movement

0:35:21.840 --> 0:35:24.560
<v Speaker 1>from nine to nineteen twenty three, the number of radio

0:35:24.600 --> 0:35:27.640
<v Speaker 1>sets in America increased from sixty thousand to one point

0:35:27.680 --> 0:35:33.319
<v Speaker 1>five millions. That's a huge adoption. Massive And uh in

0:35:33.480 --> 0:35:37.960
<v Speaker 1>nineteen two there were twenty eight stations in operation, but

0:35:38.040 --> 0:35:42.520
<v Speaker 1>I think it like exploded to hundreds very quickly. Um.

0:35:42.560 --> 0:35:46.400
<v Speaker 1>And then enter the scene a little guy named Herbert Hoover,

0:35:47.040 --> 0:35:49.960
<v Speaker 1>who was at the time the Secretary of Commerce, right,

0:35:50.000 --> 0:35:53.279
<v Speaker 1>and the and the Department of Commerce oversaw radio at

0:35:53.320 --> 0:35:56.879
<v Speaker 1>this time. Yeah, yeah, And he was really the initiative

0:35:56.960 --> 0:36:01.040
<v Speaker 1>of that idea. He was the one who said, you know, uh,

0:36:02.920 --> 0:36:05.640
<v Speaker 1>he really wanted the Department of Commerce to control it

0:36:05.719 --> 0:36:08.120
<v Speaker 1>first of all. But he also said, and this is

0:36:08.120 --> 0:36:11.120
<v Speaker 1>another quote, he said, at first the idea of making

0:36:11.160 --> 0:36:14.920
<v Speaker 1>money off radio seemed profane. It is inconceivable that we

0:36:14.960 --> 0:36:18.480
<v Speaker 1>should allow so great a possibility for service, for news,

0:36:18.640 --> 0:36:22.480
<v Speaker 1>for entertainment, and for vital commercial purposes to be drowned

0:36:22.520 --> 0:36:27.120
<v Speaker 1>in advertising chatter. This is Herbert Hoover who subsequently ends

0:36:27.200 --> 0:36:31.359
<v Speaker 1>up using the government to support the businesses, uh in

0:36:31.480 --> 0:36:36.839
<v Speaker 1>terms of businesses over amateur radio stations, UH, in terms

0:36:36.880 --> 0:36:40.200
<v Speaker 1>of their licensing. And his other analogy for radio was

0:36:40.239 --> 0:36:42.879
<v Speaker 1>that he thought of it as transportation rather than the

0:36:42.880 --> 0:36:45.319
<v Speaker 1>the post office analogy that the Navy was using. He

0:36:45.360 --> 0:36:46.719
<v Speaker 1>thought it was like, we should think of them as

0:36:46.760 --> 0:36:50.399
<v Speaker 1>like waterways, and that the public should be be able

0:36:50.440 --> 0:36:53.240
<v Speaker 1>to ride these waterways, but that the government would regulate

0:36:53.280 --> 0:36:57.400
<v Speaker 1>how they did. So I like this this message here too,

0:36:57.520 --> 0:37:00.360
<v Speaker 1>of the We're one of the world's first radio ads,

0:37:00.480 --> 0:37:07.439
<v Speaker 1>aired on August two, uh for a housing development in Queens. Yeah. Yeah,

0:37:07.719 --> 0:37:11.839
<v Speaker 1>this is the They were basically like um advocating what

0:37:11.880 --> 0:37:15.400
<v Speaker 1>we would now call gentrification or like get This is

0:37:15.440 --> 0:37:17.880
<v Speaker 1>a quote from that ad. Get away from the solid

0:37:17.920 --> 0:37:20.680
<v Speaker 1>masses of brick, where children grow up starved for a

0:37:20.760 --> 0:37:24.720
<v Speaker 1>run over a patch of grass. But my child's never

0:37:24.760 --> 0:37:28.799
<v Speaker 1>seen what a tree looks like. Queen. This is the

0:37:28.840 --> 0:37:32.399
<v Speaker 1>first thing that we we sold on radio. That's hilarious. Yeah.

0:37:33.280 --> 0:37:37.080
<v Speaker 1>But so Hoover goes on in Ino. He calls together

0:37:37.120 --> 0:37:40.120
<v Speaker 1>the first American Radio Conference, which is he brings together

0:37:40.160 --> 0:37:43.760
<v Speaker 1>representatives from and I put this in quotes radio industry

0:37:43.800 --> 0:37:46.520
<v Speaker 1>because it really wasn't an industry, you know, it's just

0:37:46.600 --> 0:37:49.719
<v Speaker 1>kind of and and this included not only you know,

0:37:50.040 --> 0:37:53.080
<v Speaker 1>the businesses that had interests in mind, but also the

0:37:53.120 --> 0:37:57.560
<v Speaker 1>amateur radio operators and no action was taken. Uh, there

0:37:57.560 --> 0:38:00.960
<v Speaker 1>were calls for legislation they introduced to building Congress. Congress

0:38:01.040 --> 0:38:02.480
<v Speaker 1>is like, no, we don't want to have anything to

0:38:02.520 --> 0:38:05.200
<v Speaker 1>do with this, and there's political reasons behind that that

0:38:05.239 --> 0:38:10.120
<v Speaker 1>I'll get into later. Um. Then by nine, we've got

0:38:10.800 --> 0:38:16.000
<v Speaker 1>fourteen hundred radio stations, not just what did I say?

0:38:16.120 --> 0:38:19.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah and you So you've got these big commercial broadcasters

0:38:19.520 --> 0:38:23.000
<v Speaker 1>that are forming networks like NBC and CBS, both of

0:38:23.040 --> 0:38:28.759
<v Speaker 1>them they've formed in seven respectively. Uh, and it's very

0:38:28.800 --> 0:38:32.560
<v Speaker 1>similar today to the same that NBC and CBS that

0:38:32.600 --> 0:38:36.400
<v Speaker 1>we understand as being television. Right now, now I've got

0:38:36.680 --> 0:38:40.440
<v Speaker 1>the beginning of one of the weirdest stories I've ever heard.

0:38:40.760 --> 0:38:42.600
<v Speaker 1>This guy is my favorite. I agree. I think you

0:38:42.600 --> 0:38:44.560
<v Speaker 1>should do a whole episode about this guy. I could

0:38:44.600 --> 0:38:46.839
<v Speaker 1>easily do a whole episode about this guy. And and

0:38:46.880 --> 0:38:51.319
<v Speaker 1>he's going to pepper through parts of the rest of

0:38:51.320 --> 0:38:54.239
<v Speaker 1>this episode. So nineteen twenty three is what we're talking

0:38:54.239 --> 0:38:56.160
<v Speaker 1>about here. We're going back just a little bit too

0:38:56.280 --> 0:39:00.520
<v Speaker 1>to set the stage. That's when doctor used in quotes

0:39:00.800 --> 0:39:03.760
<v Speaker 1>John R. Brinkley starts up a radio station called kf

0:39:03.840 --> 0:39:09.360
<v Speaker 1>KB in Kansas. So let me tell you about doctor Brinkley.

0:39:09.480 --> 0:39:11.279
<v Speaker 1>First of all, he wasn't a real doctor. He's like

0:39:11.320 --> 0:39:14.920
<v Speaker 1>the original snake oil salesman. He he at least perfected

0:39:14.960 --> 0:39:18.120
<v Speaker 1>it to an art form, right. He went to medical school.

0:39:18.160 --> 0:39:21.360
<v Speaker 1>They never graduated, but he bought a diploma from a

0:39:21.400 --> 0:39:25.160
<v Speaker 1>diploma mill for five hundred dollars not an insignificant amount

0:39:25.200 --> 0:39:28.239
<v Speaker 1>of money, that's uh, and it gave him the right

0:39:28.280 --> 0:39:33.320
<v Speaker 1>to practice medicine in some states, including Kansas. He purchased diploma,

0:39:33.680 --> 0:39:37.520
<v Speaker 1>not not an actual like proof that he had the

0:39:37.680 --> 0:39:40.440
<v Speaker 1>training that would allow him to do this. So anyway,

0:39:40.640 --> 0:39:44.400
<v Speaker 1>he starts practicing medicine. He had previously been involved in

0:39:44.440 --> 0:39:48.520
<v Speaker 1>some scams and cons including things like selling tinted water

0:39:48.680 --> 0:39:52.359
<v Speaker 1>as if it were an actual medicinal cure and injecting

0:39:52.360 --> 0:39:56.280
<v Speaker 1>it into people. But I want to see a movie

0:39:56.320 --> 0:39:58.320
<v Speaker 1>about this guy's life. I want to I want to

0:39:58.360 --> 0:39:59.920
<v Speaker 1>see a movie. I want to see a movie of

0:40:00.200 --> 0:40:02.160
<v Speaker 1>this guy. I want to see him cast. I want

0:40:02.200 --> 0:40:06.160
<v Speaker 1>I want Simon Peg to play him. He's just like

0:40:07.000 --> 0:40:10.160
<v Speaker 1>deviously injecting things into people and cutting open their necks.

0:40:10.239 --> 0:40:12.480
<v Speaker 1>I think I think either Simon Peg or Neil Patrick

0:40:12.480 --> 0:40:14.520
<v Speaker 1>Harris that would be pliant yeah, he would be good.

0:40:14.680 --> 0:40:18.000
<v Speaker 1>It's like evil doogie howser. Yeah. So he had he

0:40:18.360 --> 0:40:20.319
<v Speaker 1>had been hired as a house doctor for a meat

0:40:20.320 --> 0:40:24.160
<v Speaker 1>packing company and he observed the rigorous mating habits of goats.

0:40:25.280 --> 0:40:27.880
<v Speaker 1>Uh yeah, So let's slow down for a second, of people,

0:40:28.120 --> 0:40:31.439
<v Speaker 1>This means that he watched goats have sex for a

0:40:31.480 --> 0:40:36.239
<v Speaker 1>long time and enthusiastically the goats at least I don't

0:40:36.239 --> 0:40:39.359
<v Speaker 1>know about him, but the goats were certainly enthusiastic. So

0:40:39.480 --> 0:40:42.799
<v Speaker 1>he was talking to a male patient once about the

0:40:42.800 --> 0:40:45.720
<v Speaker 1>fact that the male patient was having problems in the bedroom.

0:40:45.800 --> 0:40:49.760
<v Speaker 1>He was having a failing libido rectile dysfunction. Perhaps the

0:40:49.760 --> 0:40:55.279
<v Speaker 1>the actual nature of the problem was not what explained

0:40:55.280 --> 0:40:57.839
<v Speaker 1>in all the sources I looked at, but had something

0:40:57.880 --> 0:41:02.160
<v Speaker 1>to do with failing libido or um, you know, virility,

0:41:02.239 --> 0:41:06.560
<v Speaker 1>And so supposedly what Dr Brinkley did was jokingly suggest

0:41:06.640 --> 0:41:10.600
<v Speaker 1>that perhaps they should transplant plant some goat quote unquote glands,

0:41:10.840 --> 0:41:14.680
<v Speaker 1>as in gonads into the male patient. And he said,

0:41:15.320 --> 0:41:19.919
<v Speaker 1>let's do it. Let's fire up like the original body modification.

0:41:20.160 --> 0:41:22.280
<v Speaker 1>Give me some give me some of them goat glands.

0:41:23.040 --> 0:41:26.000
<v Speaker 1>So he does he actually did start performing this, and

0:41:26.000 --> 0:41:29.840
<v Speaker 1>then he started to suggest, like he began to essentially

0:41:29.880 --> 0:41:34.799
<v Speaker 1>advertise saying, this is a way to restore virility for men. Uh,

0:41:35.360 --> 0:41:38.759
<v Speaker 1>let me do this this medical procedure for a not

0:41:38.960 --> 0:41:43.600
<v Speaker 1>insignificant amount of money. So flash foward to when he

0:41:43.640 --> 0:41:45.920
<v Speaker 1>gets the radio station and he starts to fill his

0:41:45.960 --> 0:41:50.439
<v Speaker 1>broadcast time with music and medical lectures, and he would

0:41:50.640 --> 0:41:53.839
<v Speaker 1>end up advocating for this kind of treatment and other

0:41:54.160 --> 0:41:58.239
<v Speaker 1>treatments that were equally bogus advertising too. Yeah, and he

0:41:58.280 --> 0:42:02.239
<v Speaker 1>was he was essentially throwing business two surgeons into pharmacists

0:42:02.280 --> 0:42:08.400
<v Speaker 1>and getting kickbacks every single time and making a mint

0:42:08.440 --> 0:42:12.759
<v Speaker 1>off it. So he's in full operation and will end up,

0:42:13.800 --> 0:42:18.080
<v Speaker 1>believe it or not, defining in part why radio has

0:42:18.160 --> 0:42:20.719
<v Speaker 1>regulated the way it is. But we'll get to that. Yeah,

0:42:20.719 --> 0:42:23.120
<v Speaker 1>I know, he's important to the history of it um.

0:42:23.120 --> 0:42:27.560
<v Speaker 1>In the meantime, Hoover's continuing to negotiate with stations and

0:42:27.640 --> 0:42:32.640
<v Speaker 1>the government on how it should be regulated. And you know, basically,

0:42:32.680 --> 0:42:35.399
<v Speaker 1>as the Secretary of Commerce, his work is to let

0:42:35.440 --> 0:42:39.040
<v Speaker 1>the stations work out amongst themselves which frequency is going

0:42:39.080 --> 0:42:41.080
<v Speaker 1>to be used and when and how they overlap. You know,

0:42:41.200 --> 0:42:44.280
<v Speaker 1>it wasn't really you know, handing it out. He wouldn't

0:42:44.280 --> 0:42:49.120
<v Speaker 1>occasionally make decisions. And what happened was in the federal

0:42:49.120 --> 0:42:52.560
<v Speaker 1>court was like whoa, whoa, you don't have this power.

0:42:53.080 --> 0:42:56.520
<v Speaker 1>And specifically the Attorney General of the United States, who

0:42:56.560 --> 0:43:00.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, was from the same administration that the Secretary

0:43:00.040 --> 0:43:03.000
<v Speaker 1>of Commerce was, decided that Hoover didn't have this power,

0:43:03.080 --> 0:43:06.080
<v Speaker 1>he could not grant permits at request, and that all

0:43:06.120 --> 0:43:08.839
<v Speaker 1>of a sudden, these air waves turned into even more

0:43:08.920 --> 0:43:12.400
<v Speaker 1>of this like wild wild West of broadcasting than they

0:43:12.520 --> 0:43:17.880
<v Speaker 1>already were. Uh. And so obviously more regulation is even

0:43:18.040 --> 0:43:20.560
<v Speaker 1>is necessary. And Coolidge is the president of the time.

0:43:20.840 --> 0:43:24.040
<v Speaker 1>He favors the control by the Department of Commerce obviously

0:43:24.719 --> 0:43:28.200
<v Speaker 1>because it's under his branch, and he opposes any kind

0:43:28.239 --> 0:43:32.720
<v Speaker 1>of commission being formed. Senate, however, didn't like the idea

0:43:32.760 --> 0:43:34.839
<v Speaker 1>of one man being in control. And this is where

0:43:34.880 --> 0:43:37.120
<v Speaker 1>the political angle comes in, because they knew that Herbert

0:43:37.120 --> 0:43:40.680
<v Speaker 1>Hoover had his eye on the presidency and they didn't

0:43:40.680 --> 0:43:44.319
<v Speaker 1>want to give him any political prestige for taking care

0:43:44.320 --> 0:43:48.800
<v Speaker 1>of the radio problem. Interesting, and also this will probably

0:43:49.560 --> 0:43:53.200
<v Speaker 1>seem familiar to people following them, that neutrality arguments, where

0:43:53.400 --> 0:43:56.600
<v Speaker 1>one of the big problems was the FCC had brought

0:43:56.640 --> 0:44:00.640
<v Speaker 1>a case against Comcast for blocking bit torrent traffic, and

0:44:00.680 --> 0:44:04.879
<v Speaker 1>then the response was, you don't have authority to tell

0:44:05.160 --> 0:44:09.400
<v Speaker 1>Comcast what it can and can't do because Internet transmissions

0:44:09.400 --> 0:44:13.360
<v Speaker 1>were a title one classification, not titled two. Uh. And

0:44:13.920 --> 0:44:15.400
<v Speaker 1>if you want to know more about that, you can

0:44:15.440 --> 0:44:18.440
<v Speaker 1>listen to the title to podcast I did and Common

0:44:18.480 --> 0:44:20.759
<v Speaker 1>Carrier podcast I did from a while back to to

0:44:20.960 --> 0:44:23.399
<v Speaker 1>learn more about it. But just suffice it to say

0:44:23.440 --> 0:44:26.439
<v Speaker 1>that this is something that we've seen before and we'll

0:44:26.440 --> 0:44:29.759
<v Speaker 1>likely see again. I just I think it's fascinating that,

0:44:29.880 --> 0:44:36.080
<v Speaker 1>like the future of this major media uh, was decided

0:44:36.360 --> 0:44:39.880
<v Speaker 1>by people who wanted to screw over a political candidate

0:44:39.880 --> 0:44:43.279
<v Speaker 1>potentially running from Yeah, yeah, and sometimes just people who

0:44:43.320 --> 0:44:47.640
<v Speaker 1>were wanting to screw over inventors. Uh. It's crazy. We'll

0:44:47.640 --> 0:44:51.240
<v Speaker 1>talk more about those two. In Congress creates the Federal

0:44:51.360 --> 0:44:55.879
<v Speaker 1>Radio Commission and passes the Radio Act of nineteen twenty seven. Now,

0:44:55.880 --> 0:44:58.400
<v Speaker 1>before that time, it was all the Department of Commerce,

0:44:58.440 --> 0:45:00.880
<v Speaker 1>like Christian was saying. So the Commission's job was to

0:45:00.920 --> 0:45:04.799
<v Speaker 1>get radio into shape, and they wanted to have a

0:45:04.800 --> 0:45:07.360
<v Speaker 1>little more power than Department of Commerce, which could grant

0:45:07.360 --> 0:45:11.200
<v Speaker 1>broadcast licenses but couldn't deny a broadcast license. So if

0:45:11.280 --> 0:45:13.279
<v Speaker 1>you requested it, if you did all the things you

0:45:13.320 --> 0:45:15.280
<v Speaker 1>were supposed to do, you would get one. You couldn't

0:45:15.280 --> 0:45:19.360
<v Speaker 1>be told no, So the Federal Radio Commission was supposed

0:45:19.360 --> 0:45:23.040
<v Speaker 1>to be able to say no if it was warranted. Um,

0:45:23.360 --> 0:45:25.719
<v Speaker 1>the question of how they determined how it was warranted

0:45:25.840 --> 0:45:29.359
<v Speaker 1>was something of a problem. And uh. The Act also

0:45:29.400 --> 0:45:32.839
<v Speaker 1>laid out rules for content. Programming could not have obscene,

0:45:33.040 --> 0:45:36.160
<v Speaker 1>in decent or profane language, and the Commission could and

0:45:36.200 --> 0:45:39.560
<v Speaker 1>did use content as a factor when deciding whether or

0:45:39.600 --> 0:45:43.719
<v Speaker 1>not to renew a broadcast license. So if you were

0:45:44.600 --> 0:45:48.400
<v Speaker 1>broadcasting and not paying a whole attention to those content rules,

0:45:49.120 --> 0:45:51.840
<v Speaker 1>you wouldn't necessarily have your license revoked, but when you

0:45:51.880 --> 0:45:55.759
<v Speaker 1>went back to get your license renewed, you might be denied. Right,

0:45:55.760 --> 0:45:58.600
<v Speaker 1>And this makes sense in light of other arguments that

0:45:58.640 --> 0:46:00.960
<v Speaker 1>were going on with media of the you know, the

0:46:01.080 --> 0:46:05.880
<v Speaker 1>twenty years probably surrounding this, both with the cinema and

0:46:06.200 --> 0:46:10.120
<v Speaker 1>I would assume newspapers and comic books as well. Yeah,

0:46:10.200 --> 0:46:16.040
<v Speaker 1>all looking at the government, the government trying to deem

0:46:16.080 --> 0:46:20.600
<v Speaker 1>what was profane or wasn't, but also trying to leave

0:46:20.640 --> 0:46:23.080
<v Speaker 1>it in the public's hands to decide. Yeah. There was

0:46:23.120 --> 0:46:26.799
<v Speaker 1>also a real worry about how far can you rule

0:46:26.920 --> 0:46:30.640
<v Speaker 1>on these things before it becomes censorship. So that I mean,

0:46:30.640 --> 0:46:32.719
<v Speaker 1>that's a real worry, right, because they didn't want to

0:46:32.719 --> 0:46:38.960
<v Speaker 1>be accused of taking away somebody's right to free speech. Sure, yeah, um.

0:46:39.040 --> 0:46:44.600
<v Speaker 1>And so the fr C Federal Radio Commission, it was

0:46:44.640 --> 0:46:47.440
<v Speaker 1>really just like this compromise, this political compromise. And so

0:46:47.480 --> 0:46:50.879
<v Speaker 1>the idea was like really like they just assumed they

0:46:50.960 --> 0:46:54.000
<v Speaker 1>being Congress, that it was going to go away after

0:46:54.040 --> 0:46:56.480
<v Speaker 1>a year as part of a political deal basically to

0:46:56.560 --> 0:46:59.880
<v Speaker 1>keep Hoover out of office, and especially because of the

0:47:00.040 --> 0:47:04.640
<v Speaker 1>commercial radio interests these guys who were lobbying their politicians. Uh,

0:47:04.719 --> 0:47:07.440
<v Speaker 1>they wanted their regulation to go back to the Secretary

0:47:07.440 --> 0:47:10.640
<v Speaker 1>of Commerce. They just didn't want it to be Hoover. Uh.

0:47:10.640 --> 0:47:14.120
<v Speaker 1>And so they and their supporters in Congress would belittle

0:47:14.160 --> 0:47:18.080
<v Speaker 1>the FARC's accomplishments even as they had they had subsequently

0:47:18.160 --> 0:47:20.719
<v Speaker 1>argued that it should exist, and then as it was

0:47:20.800 --> 0:47:23.319
<v Speaker 1>going along, they would say, oh, this is terrible. You're

0:47:23.360 --> 0:47:26.600
<v Speaker 1>not doing a good job. And Uh. The FARC was

0:47:26.680 --> 0:47:30.040
<v Speaker 1>handicapped by a number of things. A limited financial resources,

0:47:30.320 --> 0:47:34.759
<v Speaker 1>had an inadequate staff, uh, and as we're talking about here,

0:47:34.760 --> 0:47:37.640
<v Speaker 1>it really didn't have any power authority, and its existence

0:47:37.640 --> 0:47:39.920
<v Speaker 1>was in question from the very day that it was

0:47:40.440 --> 0:47:45.640
<v Speaker 1>it was created. It was like they were constantly on probation. Yeah.

0:47:45.840 --> 0:47:48.440
<v Speaker 1>It was one of those things where, um, they're also

0:47:48.480 --> 0:47:52.800
<v Speaker 1>they're very organization ended up being a problem. So. Uh.

0:47:53.200 --> 0:47:55.600
<v Speaker 1>One of the things about the FARC was that they

0:47:55.600 --> 0:47:59.120
<v Speaker 1>were organized so that the entire United States was divided

0:47:59.160 --> 0:48:03.000
<v Speaker 1>into into zones. Yeah. They called this sectionalism, and each

0:48:03.160 --> 0:48:07.440
<v Speaker 1>zone was giving given the same number of broadcast licenses

0:48:07.520 --> 0:48:12.080
<v Speaker 1>essentially as every other zone, which you know, from one perspective,

0:48:12.080 --> 0:48:14.400
<v Speaker 1>sounds like it would be fair, like everybody gets the

0:48:14.440 --> 0:48:17.440
<v Speaker 1>same amount, But then you think where's the population distribution.

0:48:18.120 --> 0:48:21.600
<v Speaker 1>The Northeast is very heavily populated and the Southwest is

0:48:21.719 --> 0:48:25.600
<v Speaker 1>very lightly populated, and so you don't have enough broadcast

0:48:25.640 --> 0:48:28.040
<v Speaker 1>licenses for the Northeast and you have too many for

0:48:28.120 --> 0:48:31.319
<v Speaker 1>the Southwest. So these were so simple things like just

0:48:31.400 --> 0:48:36.040
<v Speaker 1>the way things were set up kind of set the

0:48:36.160 --> 0:48:38.520
<v Speaker 1>f r C up for failure. It did, yeah, especially

0:48:38.600 --> 0:48:42.799
<v Speaker 1>because when that happened, Southerners in particular felt like they

0:48:42.800 --> 0:48:47.120
<v Speaker 1>weren't being treated fairly. Uh, And it led to the

0:48:47.239 --> 0:48:52.480
<v Speaker 1>Davis Amendment in March. The idea was that there had

0:48:52.520 --> 0:48:55.920
<v Speaker 1>to be an equal allocation of licenses, band frequencies, periods

0:48:55.920 --> 0:48:58.759
<v Speaker 1>of time for operation station power for each of these

0:48:58.800 --> 0:49:03.000
<v Speaker 1>five zones. Uh and that so you know, obviously sexualism

0:49:03.040 --> 0:49:05.799
<v Speaker 1>was a huge problem for the FARC. And this is

0:49:05.840 --> 0:49:09.440
<v Speaker 1>even before we get into the business interest angle, right right,

0:49:09.440 --> 0:49:12.600
<v Speaker 1>This is just in the operation part of the f FRC,

0:49:12.719 --> 0:49:15.680
<v Speaker 1>not even getting into the business section. But these are

0:49:15.680 --> 0:49:18.520
<v Speaker 1>definitely important things to to consider. The idea of being

0:49:18.520 --> 0:49:21.640
<v Speaker 1>able to say, here's the frequency you are allowed to use,

0:49:21.680 --> 0:49:24.400
<v Speaker 1>here's the amount of power your transmitter is allowed to have,

0:49:24.880 --> 0:49:26.759
<v Speaker 1>so that way we can make sure that we don't

0:49:26.800 --> 0:49:30.520
<v Speaker 1>have these battling frequencies interfering with one another, because that's

0:49:30.520 --> 0:49:32.239
<v Speaker 1>not going to be good for anybody. It's not good

0:49:32.280 --> 0:49:34.799
<v Speaker 1>for the transmitter, it's not good for the consumer who's

0:49:34.800 --> 0:49:38.200
<v Speaker 1>trying to receive these. All of that made sense, but

0:49:38.239 --> 0:49:41.040
<v Speaker 1>they were hampered so much. And also, I mean, there

0:49:41.040 --> 0:49:44.719
<v Speaker 1>were a lot of shady political goings on along with

0:49:44.800 --> 0:49:47.960
<v Speaker 1>corporate goings on. At the same time. They were essentially

0:49:47.960 --> 0:49:52.759
<v Speaker 1>trying to fulfill this mission of favoring big business over

0:49:53.440 --> 0:49:57.720
<v Speaker 1>amateur radios, and they Actually, there's an actual FARC memo

0:49:57.920 --> 0:50:00.920
<v Speaker 1>that says, quote, there is not room in the broadcast

0:50:00.960 --> 0:50:05.560
<v Speaker 1>band for every school of thought, whether it's religious, political, social, social,

0:50:05.680 --> 0:50:10.440
<v Speaker 1>or economic. Each can't have its own separate broadcasting station

0:50:10.680 --> 0:50:14.640
<v Speaker 1>or a mouthpiece in the ether. Uh So they, you know,

0:50:14.640 --> 0:50:17.600
<v Speaker 1>they were coming down pretty hard on these these amateur

0:50:17.640 --> 0:50:21.600
<v Speaker 1>stations that we're given providing you know, a pulpit essentially

0:50:21.920 --> 0:50:25.160
<v Speaker 1>to anybody who had the means to to operate a

0:50:25.200 --> 0:50:30.759
<v Speaker 1>broadcast um in favor of the businesses that were, you know,

0:50:31.080 --> 0:50:35.759
<v Speaker 1>lobbying to have them created in the first place. Yeah, yeah, yeah, so,

0:50:36.840 --> 0:50:41.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, very complicated issue. The technology, oddly enough, less

0:50:41.560 --> 0:50:45.080
<v Speaker 1>complicated than the politics and culture surrounding it. In this case,

0:50:45.760 --> 0:50:49.920
<v Speaker 1>like the stories end up getting um Like it's the

0:50:50.000 --> 0:50:53.480
<v Speaker 1>human element that really throws the monkey wrench in here. Yeah. So,

0:50:53.560 --> 0:50:57.520
<v Speaker 1>for instance, like you've got this happens, the FRC says,

0:50:57.640 --> 0:50:59.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, this isn't a this isn't a pulpit for

0:50:59.440 --> 0:51:02.239
<v Speaker 1>your belief And then the labor movement, which is very

0:51:02.239 --> 0:51:04.920
<v Speaker 1>powerful at the time, says, wait a minute, we should

0:51:04.960 --> 0:51:07.399
<v Speaker 1>have a clear channel that we can broadcast over these

0:51:07.440 --> 0:51:10.680
<v Speaker 1>five zones so we can talk to people about labor interests,

0:51:10.840 --> 0:51:14.279
<v Speaker 1>and then educators said, yeah, so should we uh, And

0:51:14.400 --> 0:51:17.120
<v Speaker 1>so there's all this pressure from the public, and then

0:51:17.160 --> 0:51:20.920
<v Speaker 1>subsequently Congress uses that and just keeps pushing on the

0:51:20.960 --> 0:51:23.759
<v Speaker 1>f r C, saying you're really blowing it here. Yeah.

0:51:24.120 --> 0:51:27.319
<v Speaker 1>So you've got a great bullet list here of the

0:51:27.360 --> 0:51:30.799
<v Speaker 1>working principles of the f r C. Let's go through those. Yeah.

0:51:30.880 --> 0:51:34.680
<v Speaker 1>So this is how they would ostensibly decide things. The

0:51:34.719 --> 0:51:37.239
<v Speaker 1>first is that the station with the longest record of

0:51:37.320 --> 0:51:42.080
<v Speaker 1>continuous service had the superior right for broadcasting on a

0:51:42.120 --> 0:51:46.719
<v Speaker 1>particular channel, right, but they had a stipulation. There were

0:51:46.760 --> 0:51:49.520
<v Speaker 1>other conditions as well. So in order to fulfill the

0:51:49.560 --> 0:51:53.920
<v Speaker 1>fair and equitable distribution that was required by them, an

0:51:53.920 --> 0:51:58.400
<v Speaker 1>applicant who wanted to broadcast needed firm financial standing and

0:51:58.560 --> 0:52:02.319
<v Speaker 1>efficient equipment. That's pretty vague, right, So it's up to

0:52:02.360 --> 0:52:04.960
<v Speaker 1>this f r C, not f c C f r

0:52:05.000 --> 0:52:09.040
<v Speaker 1>C commissioner at the time to determine what firm financial

0:52:09.040 --> 0:52:12.080
<v Speaker 1>standing means and what efficient equipment means, especially as this

0:52:12.120 --> 0:52:16.680
<v Speaker 1>equipment is evolving at a rapid pace. Um. And then

0:52:16.719 --> 0:52:19.480
<v Speaker 1>you also had to obey the rules of the obscene

0:52:19.719 --> 0:52:22.680
<v Speaker 1>of not broadcasting obscene content like we talked about earlier,

0:52:23.320 --> 0:52:27.480
<v Speaker 1>UH and basically keeping it so that the dissemination of

0:52:27.560 --> 0:52:33.360
<v Speaker 1>propaganda wasn't controlled by a single group, and that creeds

0:52:33.400 --> 0:52:36.480
<v Speaker 1>were supposed to find that this is another quote that

0:52:36.520 --> 0:52:39.200
<v Speaker 1>I loved, find their way into the market of ideas

0:52:39.239 --> 0:52:42.640
<v Speaker 1>to be on the air. There was this idea that, um,

0:52:42.680 --> 0:52:45.520
<v Speaker 1>there was a there would be a natural kind of

0:52:46.440 --> 0:52:50.360
<v Speaker 1>UH process throughout the radio operators in the public that

0:52:50.680 --> 0:52:55.040
<v Speaker 1>decide which political agendas should get to be broadcast on

0:52:55.040 --> 0:52:57.560
<v Speaker 1>the radio or not, rather than just giving everyone the

0:52:57.560 --> 0:53:00.839
<v Speaker 1>opportunity to Yeah, and that would actually changed to there

0:53:00.880 --> 0:53:04.040
<v Speaker 1>would there would eventually become a decision where people would say,

0:53:04.040 --> 0:53:05.920
<v Speaker 1>you know what, we need to make sure that everyone

0:53:06.040 --> 0:53:11.160
<v Speaker 1>has equal opportunity to voice there, to to put their

0:53:11.200 --> 0:53:14.760
<v Speaker 1>political voice out there. But that would be an idea

0:53:14.840 --> 0:53:19.360
<v Speaker 1>that would come around a little later. Yeah, So you know,

0:53:20.640 --> 0:53:23.560
<v Speaker 1>saying let's just put this out there and see what happens,

0:53:23.600 --> 0:53:26.960
<v Speaker 1>and and I trust that whatever outcome there is it

0:53:27.040 --> 0:53:30.160
<v Speaker 1>will be for the best didn't always work out. It's

0:53:30.239 --> 0:53:33.080
<v Speaker 1>like it's like saying, the laws of nature will decide

0:53:33.560 --> 0:53:36.080
<v Speaker 1>who the best person for president of the United States

0:53:36.080 --> 0:53:39.239
<v Speaker 1>would be. So what sort of stuff did we get

0:53:39.320 --> 0:53:42.920
<v Speaker 1>as a result of this, well, subsequently, the f r

0:53:43.000 --> 0:53:47.840
<v Speaker 1>C didn't want to regulate advertising. Uh, not only because

0:53:48.120 --> 0:53:52.239
<v Speaker 1>you know, the advertiser's interests were also their interests, but

0:53:52.360 --> 0:53:55.120
<v Speaker 1>also because the commission chose to further the ends of

0:53:55.160 --> 0:53:58.200
<v Speaker 1>the commercial broadcasters as part of what they called the

0:53:58.280 --> 0:54:01.279
<v Speaker 1>public interest. So the f SEE had this ability to

0:54:01.360 --> 0:54:04.360
<v Speaker 1>claim that it didn't have powers of censorship and it

0:54:04.400 --> 0:54:09.359
<v Speaker 1>couldn't be held responsible for questionable advertising such as cigarettes.

0:54:09.360 --> 0:54:12.439
<v Speaker 1>You know, those like old corny cigarette ads that Judy

0:54:12.480 --> 0:54:15.560
<v Speaker 1>hear on radio right now. If you listen, if you

0:54:15.560 --> 0:54:18.440
<v Speaker 1>ever listen to old timey radio that has the commercial

0:54:18.480 --> 0:54:20.839
<v Speaker 1>still in it, you will hear tons of these. So

0:54:21.040 --> 0:54:24.320
<v Speaker 1>they didn't want to censor those. But at the same time,

0:54:24.400 --> 0:54:26.480
<v Speaker 1>they would rule that public stations that were on the

0:54:26.520 --> 0:54:28.759
<v Speaker 1>air could or could not be on the air because

0:54:28.760 --> 0:54:32.040
<v Speaker 1>of their quality of character, which I think is kind

0:54:32.080 --> 0:54:34.680
<v Speaker 1>of fascinating that you know it was. I would assume

0:54:34.719 --> 0:54:39.359
<v Speaker 1>at the time that it was maybe arguments of political beliefs, right, um, yeah,

0:54:39.480 --> 0:54:43.120
<v Speaker 1>very likely religious. This actually makes me think of how

0:54:44.040 --> 0:54:48.080
<v Speaker 1>it's unrelated. It's tangential, but how if I'm watching a

0:54:48.239 --> 0:54:54.080
<v Speaker 1>streaming content on my one of my devices whenever it

0:54:54.120 --> 0:54:57.120
<v Speaker 1>gets to the content part, like whatever I'm actually trying

0:54:57.120 --> 0:55:00.000
<v Speaker 1>to see, I might encounter buffering three or four times,

0:55:00.040 --> 0:55:03.799
<v Speaker 1>depending upon the connection. But commercials always seemed to play

0:55:03.880 --> 0:55:07.960
<v Speaker 1>with perfect clarity and no buffering whatsoever. Isn't that interesting,

0:55:08.120 --> 0:55:11.320
<v Speaker 1>especially especially when you're when you're on YouTube, and YouTube

0:55:11.320 --> 0:55:14.520
<v Speaker 1>has got that new sort of passive aggressive alert that

0:55:14.600 --> 0:55:16.480
<v Speaker 1>comes up at the bottom that says, hey, just so

0:55:16.520 --> 0:55:18.799
<v Speaker 1>you know, this isn't US, it's the limits of your

0:55:19.040 --> 0:55:25.400
<v Speaker 1>bandwidth provider, right, commercial. So it's interesting to me also

0:55:25.560 --> 0:55:27.879
<v Speaker 1>that the public, you know, you would think like, oh,

0:55:27.960 --> 0:55:30.600
<v Speaker 1>the public, were they crying out on behalf of the

0:55:30.640 --> 0:55:33.439
<v Speaker 1>little guy, And it turns out they weren't. In large part,

0:55:33.480 --> 0:55:37.120
<v Speaker 1>they were actually citing with the big networks. Yeah they were.

0:55:37.320 --> 0:55:39.839
<v Speaker 1>And what's kind of interesting about this is, yeah, they

0:55:39.840 --> 0:55:42.160
<v Speaker 1>were more interested in the content that NBC, r c

0:55:42.360 --> 0:55:45.520
<v Speaker 1>A and CBS was we're putting out um and even

0:55:45.520 --> 0:55:47.480
<v Speaker 1>though some people argued, you know, our c has a

0:55:47.520 --> 0:55:51.600
<v Speaker 1>monopoly on this industry. Uh, it's interesting, Like there was

0:55:51.680 --> 0:55:54.680
<v Speaker 1>another argument that was essentially that, look, the mass public

0:55:54.760 --> 0:55:58.080
<v Speaker 1>just wants entertainment from these radio channels. They don't want

0:55:58.080 --> 0:56:00.160
<v Speaker 1>to be educated, they don't want to listen to your

0:56:00.200 --> 0:56:05.000
<v Speaker 1>political screeds, and so subsequently they're complacent about the whole

0:56:05.040 --> 0:56:07.480
<v Speaker 1>thing and they don't really care whether or not these

0:56:07.520 --> 0:56:12.440
<v Speaker 1>amateur radio stations are getting edged out. UM. And so again,

0:56:12.480 --> 0:56:15.239
<v Speaker 1>like I turned back to this article by this guy

0:56:15.280 --> 0:56:20.000
<v Speaker 1>Herring out of the Harvard Review, and he proposed that

0:56:20.040 --> 0:56:22.439
<v Speaker 1>there are two potential solutions, which I think are really

0:56:22.480 --> 0:56:25.120
<v Speaker 1>interesting now that we have the the advantage of being

0:56:25.160 --> 0:56:26.960
<v Speaker 1>so far ahead and time and looking back on this,

0:56:27.120 --> 0:56:30.440
<v Speaker 1>and he said, the only possible solutions are that we

0:56:30.520 --> 0:56:34.080
<v Speaker 1>go for full government ownership. His example was the BBC

0:56:34.200 --> 0:56:37.640
<v Speaker 1>at the time. UH. And he said, yeah, there's criticisms

0:56:37.680 --> 0:56:40.880
<v Speaker 1>that come in the form of minorities, not not ethnic minorities,

0:56:40.920 --> 0:56:44.040
<v Speaker 1>but like minorities of of voice claiming that they aren't

0:56:44.040 --> 0:56:46.480
<v Speaker 1>given equal opportunity to access to stations. So that's the

0:56:46.520 --> 0:56:49.319
<v Speaker 1>one negative drawback to that. And he said, or we

0:56:49.360 --> 0:56:52.799
<v Speaker 1>could a lot of fixed percentage of radio facilities just

0:56:52.960 --> 0:56:57.440
<v Speaker 1>for nonprofit programs. UH. And then whatever it is, whether

0:56:57.480 --> 0:57:01.800
<v Speaker 1>it's uh they allocate a certain number frequencies or maybe

0:57:01.840 --> 0:57:04.759
<v Speaker 1>they say, you know, the commercial stations can broadcast for

0:57:04.800 --> 0:57:07.600
<v Speaker 1>these twelve hours a day and then another twelve hours

0:57:07.640 --> 0:57:11.160
<v Speaker 1>a day, it's our nonprofit stations. Um. But even if

0:57:11.200 --> 0:57:14.799
<v Speaker 1>they did that, there were so much demand for nonprofit

0:57:14.840 --> 0:57:20.160
<v Speaker 1>amateur radio that they didn't have enough enough to accommodate everybody.

0:57:20.200 --> 0:57:23.960
<v Speaker 1>There wasn't enough literally in this case, it wasn't There

0:57:23.960 --> 0:57:28.200
<v Speaker 1>weren't enough frequencies to facilitate it. Yeah. Yeah, So this

0:57:28.280 --> 0:57:33.360
<v Speaker 1>is really between where we see the beginning of the

0:57:33.520 --> 0:57:39.720
<v Speaker 1>radio industry an actual radio industry that is commercialized, and

0:57:39.960 --> 0:57:42.720
<v Speaker 1>there are questions that we're going around about, well, how

0:57:42.720 --> 0:57:46.280
<v Speaker 1>should broadcasting be financed, how should we produce our programs?

0:57:46.640 --> 0:57:50.480
<v Speaker 1>How should we distribute? All of this stuff? And amateur

0:57:50.480 --> 0:57:54.000
<v Speaker 1>broadcasting moved away as much as it was, like kind

0:57:54.000 --> 0:57:55.880
<v Speaker 1>of I think of it as being like the fandom

0:57:55.920 --> 0:57:59.160
<v Speaker 1>of today, you know, like I keep thinking that's amateur

0:57:59.240 --> 0:58:04.040
<v Speaker 1>radios like the bler of the twenties, um, and that

0:58:04.080 --> 0:58:09.160
<v Speaker 1>there were so many fandoms expressed there. But ultimately other

0:58:09.280 --> 0:58:14.640
<v Speaker 1>stations that had commercial enterprises behind them, or even commercial

0:58:14.760 --> 0:58:19.240
<v Speaker 1>enterprises themselves, like department stores or music stores or doctors

0:58:19.520 --> 0:58:24.840
<v Speaker 1>or Mr Brinkley sorry Dr brink Yes, uh, he didn't

0:58:24.880 --> 0:58:27.960
<v Speaker 1>spend three years not graduating medical school to be called

0:58:28.040 --> 0:58:32.440
<v Speaker 1>Mr Exactly. Yeah, I mean that five was well spent. Uh,

0:58:32.760 --> 0:58:36.439
<v Speaker 1>they ultimately were able to you know, put push out

0:58:36.480 --> 0:58:42.400
<v Speaker 1>these interests of the sort of amateur broadcasters. So like

0:58:42.520 --> 0:58:47.680
<v Speaker 1>our c A GE and Westinghouse, they form NBC because

0:58:47.720 --> 0:58:50.000
<v Speaker 1>they want to keep their interests from diverging, even though

0:58:50.040 --> 0:58:53.800
<v Speaker 1>their competitors they're also you know, united against amateur radio.

0:58:54.280 --> 0:58:57.400
<v Speaker 1>This leads to the rise of advertising sponsorships, which were

0:58:57.440 --> 0:59:01.040
<v Speaker 1>well familiarly with in the podcasting world and with ad agents.

0:59:01.080 --> 0:59:03.400
<v Speaker 1>This is really like the first time that they had

0:59:03.480 --> 0:59:06.720
<v Speaker 1>like whole ad agencies that were working together with these

0:59:06.720 --> 0:59:09.800
<v Speaker 1>companies kind of coming up with how this stuff is

0:59:09.840 --> 0:59:11.800
<v Speaker 1>going to be broadcasting, How is the best way to

0:59:11.880 --> 0:59:17.280
<v Speaker 1>convince the audience to to move from queens or to

0:59:17.640 --> 0:59:22.040
<v Speaker 1>a cigarette. So looking back to our friend that we

0:59:22.120 --> 0:59:26.720
<v Speaker 1>referred to a second ago, doctor John R. Brinkley. Uh,

0:59:26.920 --> 0:59:30.680
<v Speaker 1>the FRC denied his broadcast renewal license in nineteen thirty.

0:59:30.760 --> 0:59:32.840
<v Speaker 1>So Dr Brinkley comes up to the f r C

0:59:33.040 --> 0:59:35.680
<v Speaker 1>s as a time for me to get a little

0:59:35.680 --> 0:59:38.360
<v Speaker 1>stamp on here so I can continue my my good

0:59:38.400 --> 0:59:45.280
<v Speaker 1>deeds of posting are broadcasting fraudulent medical practices and getting kickbacks,

0:59:45.320 --> 0:59:48.520
<v Speaker 1>And they said nope, They actually cited the fraudulent claims

0:59:48.560 --> 0:59:51.520
<v Speaker 1>and the content as the reason, saying it was against

0:59:51.560 --> 0:59:53.920
<v Speaker 1>their content rules and that's why they were not renewing

0:59:53.920 --> 0:59:57.600
<v Speaker 1>its license. So actually an instance where they did that

0:59:58.240 --> 1:00:01.080
<v Speaker 1>and it was for the good, out for the great,

1:00:01.120 --> 1:00:03.720
<v Speaker 1>for the greater good in this case, although Brinkley. Brinkley

1:00:03.800 --> 1:00:08.760
<v Speaker 1>said that what was happening was effectively censorship. Um. And

1:00:08.840 --> 1:00:10.920
<v Speaker 1>so he protests, and what he does. He buys a

1:00:11.000 --> 1:00:14.120
<v Speaker 1>radio station in Mexico that broadcasts had a much higher

1:00:14.120 --> 1:00:16.760
<v Speaker 1>power than almost any station in the US. It was

1:00:16.800 --> 1:00:19.960
<v Speaker 1>at a hundred thousand watts, eventually went up to a

1:00:19.960 --> 1:00:24.480
<v Speaker 1>half million watts and so very powerful radio station compared

1:00:24.520 --> 1:00:26.360
<v Speaker 1>to the other ones that were active at the time.

1:00:26.760 --> 1:00:31.320
<v Speaker 1>He directs the antenna northward into the United States. It's amazing.

1:00:31.640 --> 1:00:33.880
<v Speaker 1>So here's here's the deal. This is this is what's

1:00:33.880 --> 1:00:37.280
<v Speaker 1>gonna come back and haunt him. The way this worked

1:00:37.320 --> 1:00:41.520
<v Speaker 1>was that he would, uh, he would actually his studio

1:00:41.640 --> 1:00:45.000
<v Speaker 1>was in the United States, the the stuff he was

1:00:45.360 --> 1:00:49.600
<v Speaker 1>broadcasting would go to Mexico to be transmitted by radio,

1:00:50.680 --> 1:00:53.160
<v Speaker 1>and that's what would eventually come back to get him.

1:00:53.160 --> 1:00:57.080
<v Speaker 1>But that would be another couple of years. He's unfascinated

1:00:57.120 --> 1:01:05.480
<v Speaker 1>by this guy. He's the brass, the moxie. Yeah. Um. Well,

1:01:05.520 --> 1:01:07.840
<v Speaker 1>as a side note, one of the things that was

1:01:07.880 --> 1:01:11.880
<v Speaker 1>mentioned at the top from that listener message was FDRs

1:01:11.960 --> 1:01:15.600
<v Speaker 1>fireside chats, and those began in nineteen thirty three. So

1:01:15.720 --> 1:01:19.840
<v Speaker 1>this is really when I mean fireside chats don't happen anymore.

1:01:19.840 --> 1:01:22.400
<v Speaker 1>But I'm fairly certain that the President of the United

1:01:22.440 --> 1:01:25.200
<v Speaker 1>States still records a weekly message that goes out on

1:01:25.360 --> 1:01:31.280
<v Speaker 1>radio and it becomes an institution, but presidency recognizes the

1:01:31.280 --> 1:01:35.320
<v Speaker 1>importance of this media, of the communicating to the mass public.

1:01:36.040 --> 1:01:39.240
<v Speaker 1>Also in nineteen thirty three, that's when Edwin Howard Edwin

1:01:39.320 --> 1:01:42.880
<v Speaker 1>Howard Armstrong, remember we talked about him earlier, created frequency

1:01:42.960 --> 1:01:47.280
<v Speaker 1>modulation radio or FM radio. So am Remember we mentioned

1:01:47.360 --> 1:01:50.440
<v Speaker 1>changes the peak to peak voltage changes the amplitude of

1:01:50.480 --> 1:01:55.280
<v Speaker 1>that wavelength. Frequency modulation doesn't change the amplitude. It changes

1:01:55.320 --> 1:01:58.640
<v Speaker 1>the number of oscillations per second, the actual frequency of

1:01:58.680 --> 1:02:01.000
<v Speaker 1>the wave, but then a fairly narrow band because obviously

1:02:01.000 --> 1:02:04.400
<v Speaker 1>you have to tune to a band of frequencies in

1:02:04.440 --> 1:02:06.520
<v Speaker 1>order to pick things up. Then if it went outside

1:02:06.560 --> 1:02:09.280
<v Speaker 1>of that, you wouldn't get it anymore, which is why

1:02:09.640 --> 1:02:13.840
<v Speaker 1>you can overlap stations instead of causing interference. Yeah, as

1:02:13.840 --> 1:02:15.840
<v Speaker 1>long as you know so you know if you're if

1:02:15.880 --> 1:02:19.080
<v Speaker 1>you're going in an area where the power levels are

1:02:19.120 --> 1:02:21.320
<v Speaker 1>almost the same for the frequencies, that's when you start

1:02:21.360 --> 1:02:23.680
<v Speaker 1>getting that weird thing where you'll hear one station and

1:02:23.680 --> 1:02:26.720
<v Speaker 1>then the other station. Maybe you'll hear both the same time.

1:02:26.760 --> 1:02:29.720
<v Speaker 1>But it's pretty rare. Uh So it's also not as

1:02:29.720 --> 1:02:31.920
<v Speaker 1>prone to static. You don't have the same problems that

1:02:31.960 --> 1:02:36.120
<v Speaker 1>you did with AM with electromagnetic interference. But before it

1:02:36.160 --> 1:02:40.480
<v Speaker 1>could get widespread adoption, Armstrong was essentially backstabbed by his

1:02:40.520 --> 1:02:43.600
<v Speaker 1>former friend David Starnoff, who was head of guess what

1:02:43.920 --> 1:02:47.080
<v Speaker 1>r c A, and r c A obviously had a

1:02:47.120 --> 1:02:50.480
<v Speaker 1>big vested interest in AM radio FM was rising as

1:02:50.480 --> 1:02:54.920
<v Speaker 1>a competing technology. Sarnoff went nuclear. He he had wanted

1:02:55.400 --> 1:02:58.480
<v Speaker 1>Armstrong to go and create technology to make AM radio

1:02:58.520 --> 1:03:03.680
<v Speaker 1>broadcast more clear, more free at static, and instead Armstrong

1:03:03.720 --> 1:03:06.440
<v Speaker 1>comes up with this alternative to AM radio. But our

1:03:06.480 --> 1:03:11.680
<v Speaker 1>c A is heavily invested in AM, so rather than say,

1:03:11.760 --> 1:03:15.960
<v Speaker 1>let's adopt this new technology and build on it, he

1:03:16.000 --> 1:03:20.120
<v Speaker 1>went nuclear, and he started lobbying the FCC to deny

1:03:20.200 --> 1:03:26.120
<v Speaker 1>an experimental license for UH testing FM radio. Essentially, every

1:03:26.120 --> 1:03:28.600
<v Speaker 1>time Armstrong tried to make a move to push FM

1:03:28.680 --> 1:03:31.640
<v Speaker 1>radio forward, our ci A blocked it or tried to

1:03:31.640 --> 1:03:35.800
<v Speaker 1>block it, or complicated litigation ensued. It got very expensive.

1:03:35.800 --> 1:03:39.360
<v Speaker 1>And here's where things get really tragic. UH in the

1:03:40.120 --> 1:03:42.200
<v Speaker 1>and by the time you get to the nineteen forties,

1:03:43.240 --> 1:03:48.400
<v Speaker 1>Armstrong was effectively bankrupted by the litigation. He was still

1:03:48.440 --> 1:03:53.200
<v Speaker 1>trying to pursue this. He goes to his wife to

1:03:53.320 --> 1:03:55.960
<v Speaker 1>ask her for some of the money he had given

1:03:56.000 --> 1:03:58.800
<v Speaker 1>her in their earlier part of their relationship that she

1:03:58.840 --> 1:04:02.360
<v Speaker 1>had put aside for their retirement. She denies him this.

1:04:03.120 --> 1:04:08.040
<v Speaker 1>He he has been beaten down totally, and he gets

1:04:08.160 --> 1:04:11.240
<v Speaker 1>enraged and does a horrible act. He grabs a fire poker,

1:04:11.920 --> 1:04:15.840
<v Speaker 1>hits his wife in the arm UH injuring her arm.

1:04:15.880 --> 1:04:20.760
<v Speaker 1>She leaves obviously. She leaves him that evening. He sits down,

1:04:20.920 --> 1:04:24.840
<v Speaker 1>writes an apologetic letter, and jumps out the window of

1:04:24.880 --> 1:04:31.120
<v Speaker 1>his thirteenth floor building and kills himself. Tragic, tragic story.

1:04:31.440 --> 1:04:35.640
<v Speaker 1>So there are some amazing and powerful stories here. Brinkley

1:04:35.880 --> 1:04:41.680
<v Speaker 1>Armstrong Tesla Marconi. Is I mean there's a movie? There

1:04:41.680 --> 1:04:44.880
<v Speaker 1>are many movies to be made. From this, moving on

1:04:45.000 --> 1:04:51.240
<v Speaker 1>the nur Communications Act, huge huge piece of legislation. This

1:04:51.320 --> 1:04:55.480
<v Speaker 1>is the formation of the fcc UM. The one section

1:04:55.520 --> 1:04:58.800
<v Speaker 1>of that Act is actually referred to as the Brinkley Act.

1:04:58.920 --> 1:05:03.160
<v Speaker 1>This is within the overall nine Communications Act. And of

1:05:03.200 --> 1:05:05.560
<v Speaker 1>course the Brinkley Act is in fact named after our

1:05:05.640 --> 1:05:10.200
<v Speaker 1>good buddy, doctor John R. Brinkley. So this was the

1:05:10.320 --> 1:05:14.960
<v Speaker 1>US government's attempt to finally shut down Brinkley and his

1:05:15.040 --> 1:05:18.560
<v Speaker 1>attempts to continue broadcasting. And they said that if you

1:05:18.600 --> 1:05:23.160
<v Speaker 1>are transmitting information from the United States to another country

1:05:23.200 --> 1:05:27.120
<v Speaker 1>to be broadcast, that is a type of international commerce

1:05:27.160 --> 1:05:30.479
<v Speaker 1>and thus can be regulated. And they laid down rules

1:05:30.520 --> 1:05:33.440
<v Speaker 1>and they said, you cannot do this, it is against

1:05:33.480 --> 1:05:36.400
<v Speaker 1>the law. Now we have put that into law. It

1:05:36.480 --> 1:05:40.440
<v Speaker 1>put a stop to his transmitting and he ended up

1:05:40.880 --> 1:05:43.360
<v Speaker 1>trying to do other things. He also, by the way,

1:05:43.600 --> 1:05:47.400
<v Speaker 1>really got the government's attention, not just by transmitting messages

1:05:47.440 --> 1:05:54.240
<v Speaker 1>about quackery and terrible medicinal cures for things. He sided

1:05:54.280 --> 1:05:58.960
<v Speaker 1>with the Nazis before the before the United States entered

1:05:59.000 --> 1:06:01.400
<v Speaker 1>the war, exactly as is before the United States was

1:06:01.480 --> 1:06:04.280
<v Speaker 1>in in World War Two. But he started with the Nazis.

1:06:04.800 --> 1:06:08.280
<v Speaker 1>Did not go over well. Uh. He eventually would die

1:06:08.400 --> 1:06:14.680
<v Speaker 1>of a heart attack in nine. Yeah, and insane with

1:06:14.920 --> 1:06:19.160
<v Speaker 1>Dr Brinkley. But Brinkley, I mean his his actions are

1:06:19.240 --> 1:06:21.520
<v Speaker 1>what in fact there was not. There was a case

1:06:21.560 --> 1:06:25.280
<v Speaker 1>back in the nineteen nineties that related to shutting down

1:06:25.520 --> 1:06:29.800
<v Speaker 1>a uh AN organization that was using a similar means

1:06:29.880 --> 1:06:33.840
<v Speaker 1>of transmitting from the United States to a radio antenna

1:06:33.880 --> 1:06:37.400
<v Speaker 1>in Mexico because they had the facility that they could

1:06:37.480 --> 1:06:42.200
<v Speaker 1>use and it was largely unregulated. Even as late as nineties,

1:06:42.240 --> 1:06:44.360
<v Speaker 1>we've had cases that fall under this part of the Act.

1:06:44.360 --> 1:06:47.720
<v Speaker 1>For some reason, I'm thinking about d d O S attacks.

1:06:48.760 --> 1:06:51.960
<v Speaker 1>It's like the their version of yeah, it's all about

1:06:52.040 --> 1:06:58.320
<v Speaker 1>stepping around the regulations, right yeah. Well, um, Congress, like

1:06:58.360 --> 1:07:01.280
<v Speaker 1>you said, had abolished that FARC, which they were hoping

1:07:01.320 --> 1:07:03.360
<v Speaker 1>to do to begin with, but instead of just turning

1:07:03.360 --> 1:07:05.760
<v Speaker 1>it back over to the Department of Commerce, they established

1:07:05.760 --> 1:07:10.000
<v Speaker 1>the FCC. The mandate of the SEC is Interstate and

1:07:10.600 --> 1:07:13.800
<v Speaker 1>Foreign Commerce in Communication, which is where the Brinkley thing

1:07:13.840 --> 1:07:16.760
<v Speaker 1>comes in. And this is these are the three claims

1:07:16.760 --> 1:07:20.800
<v Speaker 1>that they maintainer. The reason for the FCC make sure

1:07:20.800 --> 1:07:25.040
<v Speaker 1>that radio is available to all for reasonable charges and

1:07:25.200 --> 1:07:28.520
<v Speaker 1>with adequate facilities. So that you're not necessarily listening to.

1:07:28.760 --> 1:07:31.280
<v Speaker 1>No longer would you be listening to an amateur out

1:07:31.280 --> 1:07:34.760
<v Speaker 1>of their garage, out of their gas station, would walk

1:07:34.760 --> 1:07:36.800
<v Speaker 1>away for five minutes to go pump some gas and

1:07:36.800 --> 1:07:40.600
<v Speaker 1>then come back. You want reliable radio service, America, and

1:07:40.640 --> 1:07:42.760
<v Speaker 1>we're going to give it to you. And so this

1:07:42.840 --> 1:07:45.520
<v Speaker 1>is also when we start seeing the allocation of large

1:07:45.520 --> 1:07:49.800
<v Speaker 1>frequency bands for AM radio and FM radio. There's still

1:07:49.920 --> 1:07:52.240
<v Speaker 1>is amateur radio. You can get a license to operate

1:07:52.240 --> 1:07:55.440
<v Speaker 1>an amateur radio, but there are very specific band of

1:07:55.520 --> 1:07:57.680
<v Speaker 1>frequencies you are allowed to use and you can't use

1:07:57.720 --> 1:08:01.000
<v Speaker 1>anything outside of that. Yeah, it's kind of it's kind

1:08:01.000 --> 1:08:04.200
<v Speaker 1>of what Herrying was arguing back in the nineteen thirties

1:08:04.320 --> 1:08:07.000
<v Speaker 1>that that there, but it's far more limited than that.

1:08:07.040 --> 1:08:09.160
<v Speaker 1>I think what he was envisioning with that there there

1:08:09.160 --> 1:08:14.520
<v Speaker 1>would be a spectrum for nonprofit radio um and, and

1:08:14.600 --> 1:08:16.800
<v Speaker 1>he also argued that the f c C at the

1:08:16.840 --> 1:08:20.040
<v Speaker 1>time had to decide whether they were going to support

1:08:20.120 --> 1:08:25.480
<v Speaker 1>commercial broadcasters at the expense of nonprofit ones, and ultimately,

1:08:25.640 --> 1:08:29.240
<v Speaker 1>as we know, they decided to do that. Um and

1:08:29.400 --> 1:08:32.120
<v Speaker 1>even though they were hearings going on and reports were

1:08:32.160 --> 1:08:34.240
<v Speaker 1>being pulled together and the f CC was looking at

1:08:34.240 --> 1:08:37.000
<v Speaker 1>all these things. You know, ultimately, what we know of

1:08:37.040 --> 1:08:39.960
<v Speaker 1>as the Golden Age of radio saw the growth of

1:08:40.000 --> 1:08:45.520
<v Speaker 1>these these uh multi uh corporate networks across the country.

1:08:45.720 --> 1:08:48.360
<v Speaker 1>Right and by this time we're talking about World War two,

1:08:49.400 --> 1:08:54.080
<v Speaker 1>radio now was adopted by a huge percentage of the population.

1:08:54.920 --> 1:08:57.760
<v Speaker 1>Nine and ten families owned a radio and listened to

1:08:57.840 --> 1:08:59.880
<v Speaker 1>an average of three to four hours of programming at

1:09:00.040 --> 1:09:02.439
<v Speaker 1>a right, this is like what we picture of that

1:09:02.520 --> 1:09:06.320
<v Speaker 1>like family gathered right time. Yeah, my place is going

1:09:06.360 --> 1:09:09.439
<v Speaker 1>and they're all gathered around the radio, little orphan Annie

1:09:09.720 --> 1:09:12.320
<v Speaker 1>and the lone Ranger and green Hornet and all that

1:09:12.400 --> 1:09:15.160
<v Speaker 1>kind of stuff. Yeah, this is this is where we're

1:09:15.200 --> 1:09:18.920
<v Speaker 1>going to kind of draw and end to this because

1:09:19.760 --> 1:09:22.040
<v Speaker 1>while we're right here at the dawn of the Golden Age,

1:09:22.080 --> 1:09:24.439
<v Speaker 1>I think that you know, what's the cool story that

1:09:24.479 --> 1:09:27.240
<v Speaker 1>we've been able to tell is the rocky journey it

1:09:27.360 --> 1:09:30.840
<v Speaker 1>took to get there. I hope you guys enjoyed that

1:09:30.920 --> 1:09:33.040
<v Speaker 1>episode about the Golden Age of radio. If you have

1:09:33.080 --> 1:09:35.920
<v Speaker 1>any suggestions for future episodes, reach out to me on

1:09:36.040 --> 1:09:38.599
<v Speaker 1>tech stuff or Twitter. The handle for both of those

1:09:38.680 --> 1:09:41.200
<v Speaker 1>is tex Stuff h s W and I'll talk to

1:09:41.240 --> 1:09:49.599
<v Speaker 1>you again really soon. Text Stuff is an I heart

1:09:49.720 --> 1:09:53.439
<v Speaker 1>Radio production. For more podcasts from my heart Radio, visit

1:09:53.479 --> 1:09:56.559
<v Speaker 1>the i heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you

1:09:56.640 --> 1:10:00.439
<v Speaker 1>listen to your favorite shows. Eight