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Speaker 2: On radio, Brady Quinn, how are we feeling.

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Speaker 3: I'm feeling okay, you know, kind of trying to recover

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Speaker 3: still obviously, uh was it with you guys? Friday was

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Speaker 3: just hanging on by a thread. So it's been a

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Speaker 3: of football yesterday? That was awesome. Although I'll say this,

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Speaker 3: how many surprises were there as far as the outcomes,

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Speaker 3: I can think of one, maybe two for the rest

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Speaker 3: of them. I feel like the games kind of went

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Speaker 4: Were going to go.

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Speaker 5: Yeah to say yeah, no, I think that's fair. I

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Speaker 5: think there's a couple of surprises. Maybe teams that you

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Speaker 5: you thought. You know, Indianapolis and you know, I think

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Speaker 5: a lot of people look at Indianapolis and Noah, by

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Speaker 5: the way, I don't think they've punted yet this season.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I don't know, like they scored on the

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Speaker 5: first ten drives of the year. Uh did the Indianapolis Colts.

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Speaker 5: And it just it feels like, you know, Shane Steichen

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Speaker 5: was called on the Denver Broncos that led to the

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Speaker 3: By You're right by the way they have not punted

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Speaker 3: the season. They turned it over on downs, but they

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Speaker 5: Yeah about that punt team just collecting checks and not

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Speaker 5: way all the way to win. Yet again, did that

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Speaker 4: Probably more Philly.

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Speaker 3: And the reason Why I say that is Kansas City's

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Speaker 3: missing Rachie Rice exam if you're worthy. I'm not trying

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Speaker 3: to give them a pass, but when you watch that offense,

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Speaker 3: it just it feels like they have no bite. They've

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Speaker 3: And granted this is a game that it wasn't some

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Speaker 4: It's it's easy, buddy.

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Speaker 3: But I mean, look, the last time they started out

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Speaker 3: back here for the Kansasity Chiefs, and maybe they they've

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Speaker 3: got to start thinking about rebuilding. But I feel like

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Speaker 3: I probably probably gave Kancity more of a past learn

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Speaker 4: Eighteen games, something like that. Really they're they're incredible.

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Speaker 3: This is this is a team that's built to win,

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Speaker 5: It just feels like they know exactly who they are,

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Speaker 5: they know what they're gonna do. They're not gonna wow

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Speaker 3: The one thing I kind of look at with Kansas

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Speaker 4: When they need to make throws, they can. And I

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Speaker 3: Prolific day yesterday, barely threw over one hundred yards, you know,

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Speaker 3: You know, They've got Saquon, They've got aj Dillon, They've

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Speaker 4: They just don't have it.

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Speaker 3: Man, When Patch Mahomes is your leading rusher who more

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Speaker 4: With not being able to run the footballs effectively.

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Speaker 3: But but I look at it yesterday as an example

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Speaker 4: Kansas City doesn't do that. It's almost like they have

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Speaker 4: So that's my big concerntive.

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Speaker 3: But they sure as heck don't care about running the football,

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Speaker 5: Yeah it, Yeah, maybe the running back is back. You

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Speaker 5: talk afterwards their leading rusher, the best running back on

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Speaker 6: I mean we got the defense that we wanted. You know,

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you want to put it low, just but more

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Speaker 2: Yeah, not ideal.

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Speaker 5: If you had the Chiefs plus one and a half,

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Speaker 5: the ball, why don't you just give it to Josh

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Speaker 5: He was a Josh Simmons fan and spoke highly of

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Speaker 5: more more proof that, you know, he's always on the

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Speaker 5: Don't know, man, It just it doesn't feel like the

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Speaker 5: and maybe this is just the end of the end

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Speaker 5: just more than likely how it goes because we can

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Speaker 5: when it starts to starts to fade away. Is New

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Speaker 3: Every single time we've seen one of these, it's someone

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Speaker 4: It just so happened.

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Speaker 3: One of the clips, unfortunately, showed a guy with his

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Speaker 5: To jump to conclusions about you as an individual if

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Speaker 2: So good game for Philly.

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Speaker 2: So, as we mentioned, you were in Evansville going to Evanston.

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Speaker 4: You're a big Illinois cat. Here's slip for you.

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean, here's the thing, a lot of people

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Speaker 4: Which even then, you know two things.

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Speaker 4: And that was one where it was a no call.

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Speaker 4: It's tough. It's tough.

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Speaker 3: So all they can do is do the best they

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Speaker 5: The day right now, all right, So now, what would

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Speaker 5: According to DraftKings plus one sixty. Really, so one hundred

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's the part that what.

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Speaker 3: I think what's confusing about it is they're an owed

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Speaker 3: to football team.

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Speaker 4: They just dropped sixteenth spots. They're still ranked. They are

442
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Speaker 4: zero in too.

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Speaker 3: After all everything USC has done, which by the way,

444
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Speaker 3: USC is right now the eight people, but really the

445
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Speaker 3: only thing that matters is the College Fall Playoff. Is

446
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Speaker 3: after everything USC has done, they're still not right to

447
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Speaker 3: have them Notre Dame. So it goes to show you

448
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Speaker 3: like there's a thought to this is still a good

449
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Speaker 3: football team. They just have played a tough schedule so

450
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Speaker 3: far and they'll pick it up.

451
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Speaker 4: So if you want to use it this they're looking

452
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Speaker 4: at it this way.

453
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Speaker 3: They've got one last life light and that lifeline is

454
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Speaker 3: they've got to go and beat the crap out of

455
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Speaker 3: every team they play. Then hope that, you know, the

456
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Speaker 3: SEC cannibalizes itself. You got some teams that kind of

457
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Speaker 3: start to fall apart, and obviously Ohio State Penn State

458
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Speaker 3: have to play one another. You know, Miami Florida play

459
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Speaker 3: this week. There's all sorts of games where these teams

460
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Speaker 3: will clash, they will collide, and so they're gonna be

461
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Speaker 3: dropping some games too. We just haven't gotten to that

462
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Speaker 3: part of the schedule yet.

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Speaker 5: And you know you mentioned the two losses. I mean,

464
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Speaker 5: both those teams are top ten now you know, Miami's fourth,

465
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Speaker 5: Texas A and m tenth, So you know, maybe they're

466
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Speaker 5: you know, they're gonna get extra credit for those losses,

467
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Speaker 5: especially if they run the table and they smack USC.

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Speaker 5: You know, so maybe not all is lost, all right,

469
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Speaker 5: maybe there's still still some hope there for Notre Dame

470
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Speaker 5: I did. I was thinking about you this weekend though.

471
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Speaker 5: You really got the shaft in that Georgia Tennessee game.

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Speaker 5: That's yeah, that's my fault.

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Speaker 3: I picked a game. I picked a game where they've

474
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Speaker 3: they had a hook on it. That always leads you

475
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Speaker 3: susceptible to that. But yeah, Quinn's wins three and two.

476
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Speaker 3: So for those of you that faded me, sit your

477
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Speaker 3: ass down.

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Speaker 4: Quinn's wins you'll be a win.

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Speaker 3: Now, we still have some work to do. We're not gonna,

480
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Speaker 3: you know, just feel comfortable at three and two. It

481
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Speaker 3: easily should have been four one, yes, but that was

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Speaker 3: that was a tough one to swallow.

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Speaker 2: So you're not gonna You're not gonna say that you

484
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Speaker 2: are on the right.

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Speaker 5: Clemson Georgia Tech game, which Clemson does not look anywhere

486
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Speaker 5: close to what you know, the preseason optimism is.

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Speaker 3: If you want to talk college football, that might be

488
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Speaker 3: the biggest disappointment.

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Speaker 4: I'm trying to think back.

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Speaker 3: I mean Florida State the year they went to and ten,

491
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Speaker 3: they were ranked really really high to to start the season.

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Speaker 3: This Clemson team is I don't know what like my

493
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Speaker 3: thoughts are. The old line play is not good gear,

494
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Speaker 3: their offensive coordinator needs to get a lot more criticism

495
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Speaker 3: for what he's done because they just have not taken

496
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Speaker 3: the next step. And club Nick has not played well either.

497
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Speaker 3: So all three of those things are really hurting that

498
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Speaker 3: scene right now. Clemson still has too much talent. I mean,

499
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Speaker 3: you talk to scouts and evaluate its most talented teams

500
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Speaker 3: of college football, but what they've showcased so far is awful,

501
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Speaker 3: absolutely awful.

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Speaker 5: Haines King, you know, we don't need to throw a

503
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Speaker 5: touchdown passes, Please just just give him the rock, all right,

504
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Speaker 5: Just give him the rock and let him figure it out.

505
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Speaker 5: You know, he'll pass when he needs to, but give

506
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Speaker 5: him the rock. And and and Georgia Tech gets done

507
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Speaker 5: over the weekend the Georgia Tennessee game. Look, if you're one,

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Speaker 5: I'm not a big fan of this. I'm not a

509
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Speaker 5: big fan of you know, sports books, you know, honoring

510
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Speaker 5: bets or going back afterwards saying, you know what we

511
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Speaker 5: feel for you guys. Somebody got injured et cetera, et

512
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Speaker 5: cetera early in a game, so we'll go ahead and

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Speaker 5: we'll cancel out the bets. I would say this though,

514
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Speaker 5: And Lee, I don't know if you want to be

515
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Speaker 5: responsible for this or if you want to be the

516
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Speaker 5: decision maker on this. But Brady had Georgia minus three

517
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Speaker 5: and a half. If they would have lined up for

518
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Speaker 5: the pat like he would have covered, it went into overtime.

519
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Speaker 5: I feel like maybe we can do something about this,

520
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Speaker 5: you know, maybe we can honor this as like a

521
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Speaker 5: you know, that's that's the college football over time. We

522
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Speaker 5: don't need to kick the the pat in this spot

523
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Speaker 5: like that. That feels like maybe we wipe away the

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Speaker 5: half there and call it a push. No, you know,

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Speaker 5: I think I got to be strict on this one, Jonas,

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Speaker 5: and I think, uh yeah.

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Speaker 4: I wouldn't abide by that anyway. I don't. That's not

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Speaker 4: how it works.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, it's a bit ridiculous.

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Speaker 4: You know it is. But that's the game we play. Man.

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Speaker 2: I knew Tennant when when Tennessee had the ball. I

532
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Speaker 2: think I texted you.

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Speaker 5: When Tennessee had the ball and they were lining up

534
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Speaker 5: to kick the field goal in regulation, you could just

535
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Speaker 5: tell by the way that drive was going and the

536
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Speaker 5: way they were setting up for it. I was like, Oh,

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Speaker 5: this is doomed. This guy's going to miss this kick.

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Speaker 5: And then I'm thinking about Clay Travis and all the

539
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Speaker 5: Tennessee fans and all the Tennessee ball washing.

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Speaker 4: Hey Clay, Hey Clay. I get it.

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Speaker 3: People think I'm on Homer for another name. I try

542
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Speaker 3: to be pretty realistic with my analysis. You are the worst.

543
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Speaker 3: You are the worst. You lose every stink in bets

544
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Speaker 3: to I think at that point, I don't know if

545
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Speaker 3: he was laying.

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Speaker 4: I think he took Tennessee money line, didn't he I

547
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Speaker 4: think that was his advice on the show.

548
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Speaker 5: I just I was looking at the look in his

549
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Speaker 5: eyes sitting across from Josh Heipel doing that interview, like

550
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Speaker 5: he was like, I mean, he was infatuated like this,

551
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Speaker 5: this is the guy. And for some reason, they just

552
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Speaker 5: can't beat Georgia. They just got think gets nine straight

553
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Speaker 5: games they've lost to Georgia. They just can't. They can't

554
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Speaker 5: beat them. It's the only the Georgia is the only

555
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Speaker 5: team that's beaten Tennessee in Knoxville with Hype Bowl as

556
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Speaker 5: the coach, and it was there for the taking. They

557
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Speaker 5: had an opportunity to win that game, and then ultimately

558
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Speaker 5: they missed the kick. They go to overtime and Georgia

559
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Speaker 5: gets it done. But yeah, it was, uh, you know,

560
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Speaker 5: it was a fun, fun little weekend. South Carolina looked great.

561
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Speaker 5: You had them on upset alert as well too to Vanderbilt, so.

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Speaker 3: Well, yeah, mostly because I was hoping your game Cocks

563
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Speaker 3: would lose. But it's you know, the tall targeting. There's

564
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Speaker 3: a terrible targeting called the name game, and on Shore

565
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Speaker 3: got kicked out for that. There was obviously the Leonora

566
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Speaker 3: Sellers hit knocked him out of the game. That's where

567
00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:07,560
Speaker 3: the game went, you know, wayside for your cocks. I

568
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Speaker 3: look at college football and if there is one thing

569
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Speaker 3: that they talked about doing the off season that they

570
00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:15,399
Speaker 3: should do is they need to come up with a

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Speaker 3: target that allows for the player to stay in the game.

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Speaker 3: I mean sure, or one like his head was down.

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Speaker 3: I'm not even sure they even felt in the category

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Speaker 3: of being targeting, so it didn't warrant that. But there's

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Speaker 3: other instances where you know, they got to kick the

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Speaker 3: player out because the letner of the law, and it's

577
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Speaker 3: not fair because you know, you're trying to look at intent,

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Speaker 3: You're trying to look at all these different things, and

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Speaker 3: sometimes it's just like, just give the penalty, dude, give

580
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Speaker 3: the personal foul. That's all you need to do. You know,

581
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Speaker 3: you don't need to kick players out of games for

582
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Speaker 3: this stuff then have to sit out the next half

583
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Speaker 3: to of the next game. It's just it's ridiculous. That

584
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Speaker 3: is the one thing right now when the balls kicked,

585
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Speaker 3: college football has to figure out how to fix because

586
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Speaker 3: they have not figured that out so far.

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Speaker 2: There was even in the LSU Floorida game.

588
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Speaker 5: LSU had a player kicked out for a targeting call,

589
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Speaker 5: and they were like, well, you know, at least he

590
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Speaker 5: gets to stay on the sideline. You know, that's a

591
00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:12,920
Speaker 5: new rule that college football implemented, and so that makes

592
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Speaker 5: it better. Like, go, I get to hang out on

593
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Speaker 5: the sideline and watch my guys. I don't get to

594
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Speaker 5: actually go in the game or be a part of it.

595
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Speaker 5: I just get to stand on the sideline. So it

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Speaker 5: just it doesn't you know, it doesn't seem to make

597
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Speaker 5: any sense. But fun weekend for college football where you

598
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Speaker 5: guys at a big noon.

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Speaker 3: For this upcoming week we in Salt Lake, we've got

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Speaker 3: a top twenty five matchup. Number seventeen Texas Tech takes

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Speaker 3: on number sixteen Utah, both teams three and zero. I

602
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Speaker 3: believe Cody Campbell, by the way, the billionaire, he's been

603
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Speaker 3: bankrolling this, this Texas Tech Raiders team.

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Speaker 4: He's flying out for it.

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Speaker 3: Utah has got an incredible student section, fan base, the

606
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Speaker 3: muss so excited for it. Never I've never done a

607
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Speaker 3: show out there at Utah. Would be an early start

608
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Speaker 3: for the game. But two of the best teams in

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Speaker 3: the Big twelve, So I think it's one of It's

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Speaker 3: one of three matchups this weekend where you've got you know,

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Speaker 3: two right teams playing each other, so it should be

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Speaker 3: a lot of fun.

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Speaker 5: Yeah. I think the you've got Auburn Oklahoma is it's right?

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Speaker 5: Theah the one, and what's.

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Speaker 4: The Illinois Indiana?

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah yeah.

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Speaker 3: Kind of a contender pretender story between those two teams.

618
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Speaker 3: Indiana's like great, they haven't played anyone, but Illinois has

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Speaker 3: been a little.

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Speaker 4: More tested and they you know, they're.

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Speaker 3: A top ten team right now, and we'll see if

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Speaker 3: they truly are if it's all said.

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Speaker 1: Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and

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Speaker 1: a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Errington, and

625
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Speaker 1: Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern, three am Pacific.

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Speaker 5: We welcome in now the great Pete Prisco, senior NFL

627
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Speaker 5: columnist or CBS Sports, CBS Sports HQ analyst. You can

628
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Speaker 5: get them on X if you want that smoke at

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Speaker 5: Prisco Cbah, Pete Pete, Good morning.

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Speaker 8: What's up, guys? How are you?

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Speaker 2: We are good?

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Speaker 4: How you doing? Man?

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Speaker 8: What's that? Brady?

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Speaker 4: I said? How you doing?

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Speaker 8: I'm great? Week two in the books. At least four

636
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Speaker 8: or two games tonight.

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Speaker 3: You sound healthy, so like you're not dealing with anything

638
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Speaker 3: in particular toe injury. Talk to us about just your

639
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Speaker 3: thoughts on the Joe Burrow turf toe potential surgery maybe

640
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Speaker 3: missing three months to the rest of the season.

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Speaker 8: You know, when it happened yesterday, Brady, you looked at

642
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Speaker 8: it and you said, okay, Rock Purty played and finished

643
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Speaker 8: his game with a turf toe injury. So clearly this

644
00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:29,520
Speaker 8: turf toe injury was much worse than the one he has.

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Speaker 8: And now you're hear an indications that it might be

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Speaker 8: a surgery in three months. I mean, it's just look,

647
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Speaker 8: it's a damning blow to the Bengals. And I always

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Speaker 8: say this. It's funny because we were walking from you know,

649
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Speaker 8: Jamie Eisenberger and myself Will walking from the cafeteria into

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Speaker 8: the green back into the green room, and Josh Allen

651
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Speaker 8: got hurt, remember he heard his nose. And I said,

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Speaker 8: if any of those teams with a quarterback like that

653
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Speaker 8: gets their guy to go down, their seasons over and

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Speaker 8: lo and behold about ten plays later, Joe Burrows season

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Speaker 8: was over, and or most of it is over at least,

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Speaker 8: and so you just they're done. I mean, if you

657
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Speaker 8: lose a franchise quarterback, and you know this, if you

658
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:08,760
Speaker 8: lose a franchise quarterback. You have one of those teams

659
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:11,440
Speaker 8: that has that guy. You're finished and now the Bengals

660
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:11,960
Speaker 8: are finished.

661
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:16,960
Speaker 5: Now this was the team if and I've heard it

662
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:20,120
Speaker 5: on good authority that when Joe Burrow was drafted, you

663
00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:23,160
Speaker 5: talked about the number of Super Bowls that they.

664
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Speaker 8: Would they I said they would win one.

665
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Speaker 4: You said multiple. But that's all right, No, no, Brady.

666
00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:30,280
Speaker 8: Brady has taken that and twisted that. There's there's tape

667
00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:30,600
Speaker 8: for that.

668
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Speaker 4: I don't know why you're blaming me.

669
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Speaker 3: I mean, I have a good good authority, Jamie Eisenberg,

670
00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:39,360
Speaker 3: Chris Hassel, multiple of the people have have also commented.

671
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Speaker 8: You said multiple, I said, I said with one? Maybe

672
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:48,920
Speaker 8: two is the way I said it. Oh but yeah, yeah, yeah, okay.

673
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Speaker 4: Love it that. It's okay, It's okay. I know you

674
00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:57,520
Speaker 4: have a problem. You have a problem, say br br wrong.

675
00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 8: I can admit when I'm wrong. I'm like some people

676
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:01,240
Speaker 8: on that radio show.

677
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Speaker 3: It's amazing that you have a bet, which I'll ask

678
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:09,200
Speaker 3: you this week, what was the bet that you were

679
00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:10,160
Speaker 3: on the right side of.

680
00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:12,680
Speaker 4: But turn out.

681
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Speaker 8: For the best pick of the week was Jacksonville and

682
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Speaker 8: they plus three and a half and they ended up

683
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Speaker 8: losing my four.

684
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's tough.

685
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Speaker 8: On I mean, you're right though, you know, but then

686
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:26,240
Speaker 8: you know what though it counters out, but you got

687
00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:30,440
Speaker 8: you got Indy, right, So I picked Indy. So Indy

688
00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:33,000
Speaker 8: gets a get wins on a late field goal and

689
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Speaker 8: after they missed the field goal. And then the other

690
00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:36,840
Speaker 8: one is it all eats out in the end. The

691
00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:39,160
Speaker 8: other one was Arizona. How does Arizona blow a lead

692
00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:42,680
Speaker 8: like they had laying the seven and and letting Carolina

693
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:44,720
Speaker 8: back into the game. So it all in the end,

694
00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:47,120
Speaker 8: it all evens out. But the Jacksonville game had they

695
00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:48,480
Speaker 8: had no business losing that game.

696
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Speaker 5: So get get him on ex at Prisco, CBS P

697
00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:55,600
Speaker 5: Prisco joining us here on Fox Sports Radio. I did

698
00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:58,760
Speaker 5: want to ask you if you had any remorse about

699
00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:00,600
Speaker 5: the following tweet that was sent.

700
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:03,400
Speaker 2: Out quote six days ago.

701
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Speaker 5: This entire app was dedicated to Kevin O'Connell's play calling

702
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:11,240
Speaker 5: and JJ McCarthy going to Campton. Funny, how quickly things change.

703
00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:14,600
Speaker 5: You couldn't even wait. You couldn't even wait, You couldn't

704
00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:17,120
Speaker 5: even the guy just had a child a few days ago.

705
00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:20,280
Speaker 5: All right, he's on playing on National TV. For a

706
00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:24,080
Speaker 5: second straight week, and there you are ready to just

707
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Speaker 5: light him up on social media based on his performance

708
00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:30,480
Speaker 5: last night. You anything you want to say for yourself.

709
00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:34,040
Speaker 8: No, I mean, it just goes to show you how

710
00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:37,200
Speaker 8: crazy that the twitter is during a game, because Monday

711
00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:39,120
Speaker 8: night he was awful for three quarters and he had

712
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:41,160
Speaker 8: one good quarter and everybody was ready to put him

713
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Speaker 8: in camp. I mean, it's ridiculous to rush to Look

714
00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:46,600
Speaker 8: at JJ McCarthy, he's going to be the best guy

715
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Speaker 8: ever for the Viking and Kevin O'Connell. Look at the

716
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Speaker 8: play calls, Well, how was it on Sunday night they

717
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:54,080
Speaker 8: played in Atlanta defense that went into that game that

718
00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:56,640
Speaker 8: we didn't have a high regard. Now they played well

719
00:33:57,080 --> 00:33:59,400
Speaker 8: and he wasn't very good and the play calling was

720
00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:01,840
Speaker 8: very good. So it just goes to show you how

721
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 8: quickly things change in this league from or how they

722
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:07,600
Speaker 8: change week to week, and and the overreaction and we

723
00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:10,320
Speaker 8: said that last week and the overreaction on Monday after

724
00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:13,120
Speaker 8: the Week one is out of control. And the overreaction

725
00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:16,360
Speaker 8: after anybody's performance in Week one is usually out of control.

726
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Speaker 8: And we saw that with that that team in that quarterback.

727
00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:21,040
Speaker 3: So Pete, you don't give him the benefit of the doubt,

728
00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:23,440
Speaker 3: give him that it's a second start, and even in

729
00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:26,120
Speaker 3: his first start, like he's look, I know he was

730
00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:28,120
Speaker 3: there last year, called a red shirt, whatever you want

731
00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:30,400
Speaker 3: to call it, but this really is this rookie year.

732
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Speaker 4: I mean, he's still kind of growing and learning.

733
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Speaker 3: You don't like preach any patience or you know, give

734
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:35,960
Speaker 3: any time to see what he's.

735
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Speaker 4: Going to be.

736
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Speaker 8: Well, yeah, of course you do. But that goes back

737
00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:41,719
Speaker 8: to the rushing him up the tree to say he's

738
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:44,600
Speaker 8: as far already too, Brady, I give him the whole

739
00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:46,600
Speaker 8: season to show what he can do. I'm not. I'm not.

740
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:48,880
Speaker 8: The verdict's not out on him by any stretch of

741
00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:52,480
Speaker 8: the imagination. It just goes to show you, can.

742
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Speaker 4: We do something? Can we have go ahead?

743
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:57,319
Speaker 8: No, I never thought he was going to be great

744
00:34:57,320 --> 00:34:59,360
Speaker 8: to begin with, so I'll be honest about it.

745
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:02,080
Speaker 3: I thought I was gonna say, yeah, could have Jonas

746
00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:05,000
Speaker 3: Knox look up your draft grade of JAJ McCarthy.

747
00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:06,480
Speaker 4: I'd be fascinating to see.

748
00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:08,240
Speaker 3: Because one of the things that I think our listeners

749
00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:10,080
Speaker 3: should know, and just based on the long time working

750
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Speaker 3: with you, Pete, is you make a first impression about.

751
00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:13,320
Speaker 4: Someone and that's it.

752
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:17,799
Speaker 3: They like you very rarely ever change your first impression,

753
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Speaker 3: and I feel like that today is going to be

754
00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:21,040
Speaker 3: a lot.

755
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Speaker 4: Of those, if we're being honest with ourselves.

756
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:26,520
Speaker 3: So, Jonas, do you have Pete Prisco's draft grade for

757
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:27,480
Speaker 3: Jamie McCarthy.

758
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:30,280
Speaker 5: Efforting efforting to go all the way back to twenty

759
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:33,359
Speaker 5: twenty four to find Pete Priscoll's draft grade for that.

760
00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:35,160
Speaker 8: He was the last thing. He was my last rate.

761
00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:36,960
Speaker 8: I didn't love I didn't love him, I'll be honest

762
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:39,640
Speaker 8: about it. I mean I didn't think I didn't think

763
00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:42,439
Speaker 8: he was a fourth round or anything. But I didn't

764
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:44,600
Speaker 8: love him in the first round. And that guy, you

765
00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:47,080
Speaker 8: can go look it up. I'm one hundred percent on that.

766
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:49,399
Speaker 8: By the way, Brady, you know why I usually don't

767
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:52,640
Speaker 8: change my mind. Wasn't it because you usually are what

768
00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:53,080
Speaker 8: you are?

769
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Speaker 3: I mean, I mean, well someone who was whatever they are. Yes,

770
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Speaker 3: it is Russell Wilson play fantastic. I mean, it was

771
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:03,320
Speaker 3: unbelievable how well he played Pete.

772
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Speaker 4: I do it.

773
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Speaker 5: By the way, I do have Pete's synopsis on the

774
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:11,279
Speaker 5: the pick of JJ McCarthy for the Minnesota Vikings. He

775
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:13,600
Speaker 5: called it their worst pick, he said. I get the

776
00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:16,760
Speaker 5: whole idea of finding a quarterback and landing JJ McCarthy

777
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:19,320
Speaker 5: where they did make sense, But I don't love his game.

778
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:22,920
Speaker 5: He just shot up boards after the season and I

779
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:25,359
Speaker 5: never saw it. I thought he would be a late

780
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:26,320
Speaker 5: first round pick.

781
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Speaker 8: So yeah, yeah, I mean, I'm and and Brady Russell Wilson.

782
00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:35,799
Speaker 8: Russell Wilson played pretty daring good football yesterday. I threw

783
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:39,399
Speaker 8: a bunch of he played phenomenal well the movie. Well,

784
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:41,080
Speaker 8: you know what, when the game was on the line,

785
00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:47,800
Speaker 8: he threw one backwards. But when the game was on

786
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:52,560
Speaker 8: the line through an interception mc donovan Wilson, Uh, that

787
00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:53,399
Speaker 8: was won the game.

788
00:36:53,680 --> 00:37:00,399
Speaker 4: So I didn't know quarterback wins was ah be.

789
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:03,759
Speaker 8: Stay it's not a QB stat. It never has been.

790
00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:06,160
Speaker 8: I'm with you on that, by the way. I just look,

791
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:08,600
Speaker 8: he made some really good throws. Now, the Cowboys were

792
00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:11,320
Speaker 8: terrible in the back end. Donovan Wilson, who made the

793
00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:15,399
Speaker 8: interception in overtime, was so bad on Sunday, My god,

794
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:17,880
Speaker 8: we were watching that game. Guys are running wide open.

795
00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:20,919
Speaker 8: But and look, Russell Wilson could throw the moon ball.

796
00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:23,560
Speaker 8: He's good at it. That's what he does. And here

797
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:25,600
Speaker 8: the bad Cowboys defense.

798
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:27,560
Speaker 5: When the game, when the game was on the line,

799
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:32,280
Speaker 5: he threw it backwards when the game, by the way.

800
00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:34,319
Speaker 8: He would, I think, if I'm not mistaken, he had

801
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:37,720
Speaker 8: his career high in yards until he threw the backward pass.

802
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:40,440
Speaker 8: I think, if I'm not mistaken, I think because at

803
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:41,279
Speaker 8: one point he was over.

804
00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:45,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, Pete, I him, Uh, I am.

805
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:47,560
Speaker 8: Pete?

806
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:52,120
Speaker 5: Who Which which former Dan Campbell coordinator is off to

807
00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:53,040
Speaker 5: a worst start?

808
00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:54,800
Speaker 2: Aaron glennor Ben Johnson?

809
00:37:57,000 --> 00:38:01,080
Speaker 8: Both both? I mean, look, Aaron Glenn was supposed to

810
00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:03,080
Speaker 8: go to a team that had a good defense and

811
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Speaker 8: bring it even into a better era of defensive football

812
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:09,279
Speaker 8: because that's who he is. And they've gotten worse. I mean,

813
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:12,279
Speaker 8: they're awful on defense. They made Aaron Rodgers look good

814
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:14,120
Speaker 8: and we saw him on then he went great and

815
00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:16,400
Speaker 8: he threw and then last this past week didn't the

816
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:18,640
Speaker 8: bills of whatever the heck they wanted to do. So

817
00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:22,240
Speaker 8: they're bad on defense. So that's on Aaron Glenn. And look,

818
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:25,520
Speaker 8: Caleb Williams has his moments where you go, Okay, that's good,

819
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:28,080
Speaker 8: and then he has his moments where Okay, he's awful,

820
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:30,920
Speaker 8: and that's what you get. With him, And so I

821
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:33,600
Speaker 8: think if you had to, if I had to answer that, honestly,

822
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:35,759
Speaker 8: I think it's a tie because they both have been bad.

823
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:42,879
Speaker 3: How about that, well, said DDE Miami the Dolphins, they

824
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:47,520
Speaker 3: look terrible. Where's this going? Is Mike McDaniel gonna be

825
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:50,120
Speaker 3: out as to or not to its? Tyree can get traded?

826
00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:51,920
Speaker 3: Where do you forst see this whole thing going?

827
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Speaker 8: Well, they played the Bills Thursday night in Buffalo. If

828
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:58,279
Speaker 8: that thing on National TV gets out of hand and

829
00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 8: it's a blowout, do they make a change?

830
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:00,440
Speaker 4: Then?

831
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:02,680
Speaker 8: You know, when you look at their staff, there's not

832
00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:04,439
Speaker 8: a lot of guys on that staff you can say, okay,

833
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:06,759
Speaker 8: well where are you going? You know there's been some

834
00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:08,759
Speaker 8: the guys on that staff that have been interim head

835
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:12,160
Speaker 8: coaches at times. But does that Does that solve it? Brady?

836
00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:15,879
Speaker 8: When you do that, I mean, look, Mike McDaniel's going

837
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:17,920
Speaker 8: to get it, Chris Breer is going to get it.

838
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:23,239
Speaker 8: That's becoming blatantly obvious. But does it really solve an

839
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:25,279
Speaker 8: issue if you get rid of a guy now after

840
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:27,600
Speaker 8: four or five, six games or whatever it is, I

841
00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:30,560
Speaker 8: don't know. And so, because who are gonna put on

842
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:33,360
Speaker 8: the staff, but Eric Studs vill Students Villa. I mean

843
00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:34,400
Speaker 8: he's been an intern.

844
00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:37,919
Speaker 4: Probably probably Anthony Weaver.

845
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:41,840
Speaker 8: Weaver, Yeah, well, I don't know. I mean that's what

846
00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:43,399
Speaker 8: I would do if I was going to make a change,

847
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:46,080
Speaker 8: I put Anthony Weaver in and give the opportunity. But again,

848
00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:48,920
Speaker 8: I don't know. Is that ever, I don't know if

849
00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:51,480
Speaker 8: that ever fixes anything, though, I mean it might. Does

850
00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:53,279
Speaker 8: that give you a new life? Does it give you

851
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:54,919
Speaker 8: you know what I mean? It gives you a head

852
00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:57,480
Speaker 8: started the process. Here, here's the problem. When you make

853
00:39:57,520 --> 00:40:01,319
Speaker 8: an interim head coach. What is he put in? Does

854
00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:03,920
Speaker 8: a decent job? Then you're stuck hiring him no matter what?

855
00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:04,680
Speaker 8: Are you not?

856
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:09,880
Speaker 5: So like you almost rather he sucked so so you

857
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:11,000
Speaker 5: had some clarity on that.

858
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:12,839
Speaker 8: No, I mean, he might not be the guy you want.

859
00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:15,320
Speaker 8: But then they get like did they play decent football?

860
00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:17,040
Speaker 8: Maybe it's not because of him, And then you end

861
00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:19,000
Speaker 8: up getting to he's your head coach. I don't I

862
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:21,000
Speaker 8: think the best part about that would be to open

863
00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:23,560
Speaker 8: up the process and find go find.

864
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:26,280
Speaker 2: A head coach like like it, like Antonio Peers.

865
00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:30,319
Speaker 8: Yeah, exactly. And here's the other part of it. Here's

866
00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:32,400
Speaker 8: the other part of it. If they open up the process,

867
00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:35,160
Speaker 8: the head coach, the general manager definitely goes. I mean

868
00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:37,160
Speaker 8: he's been there for a bunch of coaches and it

869
00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:40,200
Speaker 8: doesn't work. The head coach goes. The question becomes this too.

870
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Speaker 5: Ago you mentioned on the subject of the Dolphins when

871
00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:48,480
Speaker 5: you went took your training camp tour. I think you

872
00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:52,640
Speaker 5: call them camp softy and uh, did you get the

873
00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:56,640
Speaker 5: impression at that time watching them up close that yeah,

874
00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:58,440
Speaker 5: this thing is going to go sideways in a hurry.

875
00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:01,359
Speaker 8: Yeah. You can't change you can't change who you are.

876
00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:04,160
Speaker 8: And that guy, look, he never had to remember at

877
00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:05,800
Speaker 8: the last at the end of last season when he

878
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:08,320
Speaker 8: stood up to the podium and said, I kept finding

879
00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:10,120
Speaker 8: these guys over and over again, and they kept being

880
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:11,839
Speaker 8: late to team meetings. I don't know what to do.

881
00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:14,560
Speaker 8: You're the head coach. Figured out that's your job. You

882
00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:16,239
Speaker 8: got to discipline these guys. And now all of a

883
00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:17,719
Speaker 8: sudden you come back and you're going to change the

884
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:20,200
Speaker 8: way you do things that don't work. It just won't

885
00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:24,359
Speaker 8: work because you know why. NFL players will figure out

886
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:26,399
Speaker 8: who you are right away, and they can figure out

887
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:27,680
Speaker 8: what they can get away with. When they can get

888
00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:29,279
Speaker 8: away with how they can get away with it, and

889
00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:30,960
Speaker 8: even if you try and change up. I did that

890
00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:32,920
Speaker 8: last year. I'm going to continue to do it, and

891
00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:35,520
Speaker 8: so I don't think they can ever. You can be tougher.

892
00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:38,399
Speaker 8: I mean, you could be tough to start and ease up.

893
00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:41,359
Speaker 8: I've seen that play out at times. You know, Tom

894
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:43,919
Speaker 8: Coughlin did it and ended up winning the Super Bowl

895
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:45,680
Speaker 8: because he was a maniac. And then he kind of

896
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:48,000
Speaker 8: pulled back a little bit. You can't go the other way,

897
00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:50,600
Speaker 8: and Mike McDaniel tried to go the other way. He's

898
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:52,719
Speaker 8: trying to go the other way. It just doesn't work.

899
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:55,320
Speaker 8: I mean. And the other part of that is who

900
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:57,719
Speaker 8: have been their leaders, their star players. Think about this

901
00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:01,080
Speaker 8: Tyreek Hill guys are gonna look to him, look at

902
00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:03,319
Speaker 8: the look what the stuff he does. They're gonna look

903
00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:05,399
Speaker 8: to him as the leader. But he's one of their best,

904
00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:08,360
Speaker 8: one of their best players. You look to Galen Ramsey

905
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:09,960
Speaker 8: was there last year. You're gonna look at that guy

906
00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:12,320
Speaker 8: as a leader. I mean, from what I hear, he

907
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:13,920
Speaker 8: used to show up in the practice field like right

908
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:16,279
Speaker 8: before practice started, just wander on and there I am.

909
00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:18,959
Speaker 8: And one day maybe they're not going to practice. Maybe

910
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:21,319
Speaker 8: I am give me a break. I mean, if your

911
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:24,560
Speaker 8: leaders are those guys and your coach has no discipline,

912
00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:26,839
Speaker 8: your team is sunk. And right now we're saying it.

913
00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:31,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, uh, Pete, give me an O and two team

914
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:34,360
Speaker 3: that you would say to the fan base is don't worry.

915
00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:36,400
Speaker 4: They'll be fine. They'll still be able to make a

916
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:39,040
Speaker 4: roll to get back into it. You can't pick fantasy

917
00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:39,759
Speaker 4: at can City.

918
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:43,040
Speaker 8: You just made it. You just ended the whole exercise

919
00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:44,560
Speaker 8: that was going to pick.

920
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:47,279
Speaker 4: That's the only team. There's no other and two team.

921
00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:51,480
Speaker 8: Yeah, that's the two team. That's the one. Come on,

922
00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:56,600
Speaker 8: Brady there. They're ready to bury them. They're ready to

923
00:42:56,600 --> 00:42:58,400
Speaker 8: bury them, and I'm not ready to bury them. I

924
00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:02,160
Speaker 8: know they have issues. They lost in Brazil, which is

925
00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:04,719
Speaker 8: a weird way to start your season. They didn't play

926
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:06,759
Speaker 8: very well that day, the defense was awful that night.

927
00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:09,200
Speaker 8: And then they come home and they play the Eagles.

928
00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:11,839
Speaker 8: If if Kelsey catches the damn ball in the end zone,

929
00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:14,880
Speaker 8: they're ahead seventeen thirteen with eleven minutes to go in

930
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:15,279
Speaker 8: the game.

931
00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:18,480
Speaker 3: And then my, okay, so what about Houston. If they

932
00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:20,480
Speaker 3: lose tonight, they're playing the Bucks. So if they go

933
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:22,760
Speaker 3: to and two. Is that.

934
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:25,920
Speaker 8: I'd be worried about them if they go to oh

935
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:31,600
Speaker 8: and two they play South. Yeah, but well Jacksonville should

936
00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:33,800
Speaker 8: have should be too, and oh they choked it because

937
00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:38,200
Speaker 8: they're not Pete Reality and the Colts are too and oh.

938
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:41,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, which okay, Well that's the other end of

939
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:42,359
Speaker 3: the question is are they.

940
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:44,520
Speaker 4: The biggest surprise of the NFL season so far?

941
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:48,160
Speaker 8: The Colts? Yeah, yeah, I mean what they did and

942
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:50,920
Speaker 8: what they did to that Broncos defense just today. The

943
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:52,959
Speaker 8: Broncos defense was considered the best, one of the best.

944
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:54,920
Speaker 8: It's not the best defense in the league going into

945
00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:57,919
Speaker 8: the season, and they were shredded. McDaniel Jones did whatever

946
00:43:57,920 --> 00:43:58,879
Speaker 8: the heck you wanted to do.

947
00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:01,239
Speaker 4: And I thought, take Joe's was what he what was

948
00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:01,640
Speaker 4: what he is?

949
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:02,080
Speaker 8: You know?

950
00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:04,240
Speaker 4: I thought, is that the whole thing you say about quarterbacks.

951
00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:06,239
Speaker 3: They can't like resret their career like Max Jones looked

952
00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:08,160
Speaker 3: great yesterday or Daniel Jones the past two weeks.

953
00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:10,359
Speaker 8: You know, And you know what happens, Brady, It all

954
00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:12,279
Speaker 8: evens out in the end. You become what you are.

955
00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:15,280
Speaker 8: You can have that game, you can have that game,

956
00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:17,879
Speaker 8: you canna have that game. In that season, and Sam

957
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:20,960
Speaker 8: Donald becomes Sam Donald, and Mac Jones will become Mac Jones,

958
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:23,600
Speaker 8: and Daniel Jones will become Daniel Jones. That's who they are.

959
00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:27,080
Speaker 3: What's interesting, Sam Sam Donald actually just played great versus

960
00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:29,319
Speaker 3: a Pittsburgh Steelers team got they got a nice win,

961
00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:31,000
Speaker 3: almost put three hundred yards in a couple of.

962
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:33,160
Speaker 4: Tunnies running back.

963
00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:40,520
Speaker 8: You thought Sam Donald was good? Yes, it was, Okay,

964
00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:42,200
Speaker 8: I mean those guys.

965
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:46,719
Speaker 4: Remember Uncle Buck? Remember Uncle Buck? Remember the movie Uncle Buck?

966
00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:50,440
Speaker 4: Remember when when is it Sharis?

967
00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:52,200
Speaker 3: When she calls him on the phone and he's like

968
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:53,359
Speaker 3: trying to explain himself and he's.

969
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:55,120
Speaker 4: Like, let me, let me just let me, let me

970
00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:59,120
Speaker 4: let me know. Ah, that's kind of how you sound, Pete.

971
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:01,720
Speaker 4: It's like, throw out these blanket statements.

972
00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:05,560
Speaker 8: You keep interrupting me on your delay, because I'm.

973
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:07,920
Speaker 3: Giving you examples of guys who are literally you are

974
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:09,320
Speaker 3: right back in your face.

975
00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:10,799
Speaker 2: You are what you.

976
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:11,279
Speaker 4: Are, Pete.

977
00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:14,120
Speaker 8: Do you think okay, did you watch Mac Jones last year?

978
00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:17,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, but it was an entirely different situation than being

979
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:18,879
Speaker 3: in San Francisco.

980
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:21,320
Speaker 4: Okay, I called one of their games, Pete, Yeah, I

981
00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:22,040
Speaker 4: watched them.

982
00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:23,880
Speaker 8: Do you believe in mac Jones.

983
00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:26,600
Speaker 4: I think mac Joe's in the right system, can play well.

984
00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:27,880
Speaker 4: I'll put it this way. I think him in San

985
00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:31,120
Speaker 4: Francisco is Kyle Shanahan. Yes, he can succeed. He could

986
00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:31,919
Speaker 4: play well on that team.

987
00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:35,200
Speaker 8: So he had a good game yesterday against the bad

988
00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:38,239
Speaker 8: Things team. But he had a good game. Now you

989
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:40,279
Speaker 8: probably put up numbers similar to what Pardy would have

990
00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:43,480
Speaker 8: put up. So should he be playing like Is he

991
00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:45,480
Speaker 8: like Purdy? Is that what you're saying? So? Perty is

992
00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:47,560
Speaker 8: a product of the system and mac Jones could be

993
00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:48,120
Speaker 8: a product of this.

994
00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:50,640
Speaker 4: I think everyone would say that. Would you not say that.

995
00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:52,839
Speaker 8: I didn't make Joneses are very good? I just don't

996
00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:55,200
Speaker 8: think he's very good.

997
00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:56,759
Speaker 4: Okay, we'll put it this way.

998
00:45:56,800 --> 00:45:58,200
Speaker 3: Put it this way, take brook Perty, go put it

999
00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:01,000
Speaker 3: in the Jacksonville Jaguars or a team that that you

1000
00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:02,439
Speaker 3: know that's where.

1001
00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:04,560
Speaker 8: Eat a bit better than Mac Jones. I can promise

1002
00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:08,560
Speaker 8: you that you don't know that Mac Jones wasn't good

1003
00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:10,520
Speaker 8: in New England, wasn't good Jacksonville. Has one game in

1004
00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:12,480
Speaker 8: San Francisco, and now all of a sudden, looks Mac

1005
00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:13,160
Speaker 8: Jones is good.

1006
00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:15,680
Speaker 3: First off, he went to the Pro Bowl, the one

1007
00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:18,840
Speaker 3: year he actually had a coordinator. I'm not a defensive

1008
00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:19,920
Speaker 3: coordinator calling place for.

1009
00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:23,400
Speaker 8: He's an average quarterback and an average quarterback at best.

1010
00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:25,840
Speaker 8: And you know it. So the rest of that, the

1011
00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:28,400
Speaker 8: group is all group together, all the same.

1012
00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:30,799
Speaker 4: Well, Daniel Braytons are sure proven you wrong.

1013
00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:33,959
Speaker 3: So I'm all here for the Daniel Jones revenge store

1014
00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:35,839
Speaker 3: where you can stick it right back into your face,

1015
00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:38,360
Speaker 3: just like Kirk Cousins, who's made more money than almost

1016
00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:40,560
Speaker 3: anyone in the NFL, who's constantly stuck it in your

1017
00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:41,000
Speaker 3: face too.

1018
00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:43,720
Speaker 8: Yeah, well he's sitting on the sitting on his ass

1019
00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:46,000
Speaker 8: watching the making a lot of.

1020
00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:48,160
Speaker 4: Money incident, making a lot of money.

1021
00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:50,680
Speaker 8: People, and they know a lot, Brady, And ultimately that's

1022
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:54,080
Speaker 8: that's the most important thing. You're right, and kudos. Kirk

1023
00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:56,400
Speaker 8: Cousins is one of the all time great quarterbacks, considering

1024
00:46:56,440 --> 00:46:57,839
Speaker 8: new roles in his money every day.

1025
00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:00,480
Speaker 2: So I give it to your pete before I let

1026
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:00,759
Speaker 2: you go.

1027
00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:04,120
Speaker 5: H It is being reported that Joe Burrow will have

1028
00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:08,319
Speaker 5: surgery on his toe, and so it's a minimum three months.

1029
00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:10,600
Speaker 4: It looks like we'll move on to We'll move on

1030
00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:12,480
Speaker 4: to your seven. How about that one?

1031
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:15,000
Speaker 8: You know what you know what they took him. Supposedly

1032
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:17,320
Speaker 8: they took him up on a scooter or something or something.

1033
00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:18,799
Speaker 8: At one point, once you got on that, you knew

1034
00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:20,560
Speaker 8: it was probably I said, I said on our show

1035
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:23,200
Speaker 8: last night, I said, you know it went out the

1036
00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:27,000
Speaker 8: door with that scooter. This Bengals season they'd done okay.

1037
00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:30,239
Speaker 5: So now, now, would you go Jake Browning or you

1038
00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:32,400
Speaker 5: making a move? Are you you're making a deal to

1039
00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:34,239
Speaker 5: try and to bring somebody in who would be?

1040
00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:35,120
Speaker 8: Uh?

1041
00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:36,839
Speaker 4: I mean who? I mean?

1042
00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:39,200
Speaker 5: What about your guy in Atlanta that you just said

1043
00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:40,800
Speaker 5: was sitting on his ass? Maybe he doesn't want to

1044
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:43,120
Speaker 5: sit on his ass anymore. Kirk Cousins comes back out,

1045
00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:43,720
Speaker 5: Jake Brown.

1046
00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:46,680
Speaker 8: No, I think you say Jake Browning actually did some

1047
00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:48,719
Speaker 8: for a backup quarterback, which is what he is. He

1048
00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:50,839
Speaker 8: did some decent things when he played the last time.

1049
00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:52,560
Speaker 8: So no, I think they stick with Jake Brown.

1050
00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:57,600
Speaker 4: They missed very close. I just missed, right.

1051
00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:00,560
Speaker 8: I mean, you throw them all in the pile, Jake

1052
00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:05,759
Speaker 8: Brown and Daniel Joe ja Ja.

1053
00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:08,239
Speaker 3: Jake Brown wasn't drafted to a place to be a guy,

1054
00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:09,920
Speaker 3: so that's a little different.

1055
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:12,080
Speaker 8: But you know what, you're drafted to be a guy,

1056
00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:13,600
Speaker 8: and then you're not a guy. You become one of

1057
00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:15,000
Speaker 8: the one of the guys in the file.

1058
00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:17,839
Speaker 5: I mean, you could be caught because because Pete, Pete,

1059
00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:20,520
Speaker 5: ultimately what are you?

1060
00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:22,640
Speaker 8: You're just you are what you are. You know that.

1061
00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:24,919
Speaker 3: I just I love the fact that Pete picked out

1062
00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:27,680
Speaker 3: two separate quarterbacks both through one and played really three

1063
00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:30,480
Speaker 3: really uh, but only two of those one but.

1064
00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:37,400
Speaker 8: The pile, the pile, they're on the pile that you

1065
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:40,000
Speaker 8: call them the teas pile. Every once in a while

1066
00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:42,080
Speaker 8: they're going to have a little two or three game

1067
00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:46,120
Speaker 8: run where you go, oh wow, this guy ain't changed,

1068
00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:48,799
Speaker 8: and then they go back to who they are. Three

1069
00:48:48,840 --> 00:48:51,520
Speaker 8: games they become who they are. It all evens out.

1070
00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:54,480
Speaker 8: That's you are what you are, and never ever ever

1071
00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:56,120
Speaker 8: forget that in this league.

1072
00:48:56,680 --> 00:48:57,080
Speaker 4: Pete.

1073
00:48:57,280 --> 00:49:01,560
Speaker 3: That's why Jonas calls him strippers. Yeah, because they.

1074
00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:04,680
Speaker 2: Are back to there, they're strippers.

1075
00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:05,800
Speaker 8: I like it. I like it.

1076
00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:08,919
Speaker 2: There you go, Uh, Pete, always fun.

1077
00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:12,800
Speaker 5: We appreciate it. We'll do it again next Monday at Prisco, CBS.

1078
00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:16,839
Speaker 5: If you want some of the bold that smoke, Pete

1079
00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:20,160
Speaker 5: Prisco with us here on Fox Sports Radio. Thanks Pete,

1080
00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:25,040
Speaker 5: always a good time with the Pete Prisco, senior NFL

1081
00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:28,960
Speaker 5: columnist for CBS Sports, CBS Sports h Q analysts.

1082
00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:34,000
Speaker 4: He just won't let that go, will he, No, they

1083
00:49:34,040 --> 00:49:35,120
Speaker 4: all show up.