1 00:00:02,240 --> 00:00:06,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to Huddle Up, brought you by the Field Total Group, 2 00:00:07,400 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 1: Jaguars Senior writer John Osher, NFL Network analyst and former 3 00:00:11,520 --> 00:00:15,880 Speaker 1: Jaguar Bucky Brooks, and senior reporter JP Shatdrick bring you 4 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:18,600 Speaker 1: the latest on your Jacksonville Jaguars. 5 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:23,000 Speaker 2: Huddle Up starts right now and welcome in. Huddle Up 6 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:25,520 Speaker 2: with Bucky Brooks is brought to you by Fields. 7 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:29,680 Speaker 3: Auto Group, Jacksonville, Ce Fields Furst, Jacksonville's premier luxury auto group. 8 00:00:29,720 --> 00:00:32,600 Speaker 3: Go to Fields Auto dot com. JP Shadrick, John Oser. 9 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:36,200 Speaker 3: You're at the Honday Studios the Miller Electric Center in Jacksonville, 10 00:00:36,200 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 3: a hive. 11 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:39,360 Speaker 2: Of activity this week. 12 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:42,240 Speaker 3: Bucky Brooks is in Los Angeles, California. 13 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:43,400 Speaker 2: Not quite as busy there. 14 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:46,599 Speaker 3: I'm sure you're busy, Bucky, but you know, at least 15 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:47,400 Speaker 3: the building you're in. 16 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:49,520 Speaker 2: I don't know what's up. How are you, Buck? 17 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:50,599 Speaker 4: I'm good man. 18 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 2: What's going on? 19 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:51,800 Speaker 4: Guys? How you doing? 20 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 2: Oh good? Ready for some football things? 21 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 5: Football talk talkball, A lot. 22 00:00:55,920 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 3: A lot of ball talking coming up, including rookie Minni 23 00:00:58,640 --> 00:00:59,760 Speaker 3: Caamp coming up this weekend. 24 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:01,959 Speaker 2: That here in just a little bit. 25 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:02,680 Speaker 4: But news. 26 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 3: On Wednesday, the Jaguars have released wide receiver Gabe Davis 27 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:09,839 Speaker 3: with a post June first designation. 28 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:12,880 Speaker 2: The dead cap number this year will be five. 29 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:16,520 Speaker 3: Point seven million dollars and next year twenty twenty six 30 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:20,360 Speaker 3: fourteen point six million dollars. Had twenty catches for two 31 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:23,280 Speaker 3: hundred and thirty nine yards on a three year, thirty 32 00:01:23,360 --> 00:01:24,479 Speaker 3: nine million dollar deal. 33 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:29,880 Speaker 5: John Yeah goes up there with you know, Laurent Robinson 34 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 5: and you know different free agent signings over the years 35 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:37,959 Speaker 5: that discompletely didn't work out, And you know, it's funny 36 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 5: talking about this one. Buck It's it's huge news, but 37 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 5: at the same time, it's not because he never factored 38 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 5: last year. I don't even think if he'd been back, 39 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 5: he was going to factor this year. So it's it's 40 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 5: I'm not sure his I don't know what his knee 41 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 5: situation is going to be, but it just never felt 42 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:57,880 Speaker 5: like he was going to be a huge part of it. 43 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:01,680 Speaker 5: So it's news to but Bucket doesn't matter that much. 44 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:04,760 Speaker 5: I'm not trying to detegrate him. But for the team, Okay, 45 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 5: good move on. 46 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:09,919 Speaker 6: I would say this, and I want to be very 47 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:11,960 Speaker 6: respectful and talking about it like it's a move that 48 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:14,400 Speaker 6: needed to be made. It was a move that probably 49 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:16,600 Speaker 6: could have been made based on behaviors and attitudes. 50 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:18,720 Speaker 4: Last year, it didn't work out. 51 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:20,919 Speaker 6: It didn't work on the field, it didn't work off 52 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 6: the field. Anyone who has been in the building, been 53 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:25,840 Speaker 6: around the team, understood the dynamics of why it didn't 54 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:29,160 Speaker 6: work out. Just wasn't a good fit. And the reason 55 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:32,640 Speaker 6: why I would applaud this move is everything that Liam 56 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:35,600 Speaker 6: con James Gladstone, and Tony Boselli have talked about. They 57 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:38,800 Speaker 6: followed through on when they talk about and we laughed 58 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 6: when they talk about guys that fit in with the ecosystem, 59 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:44,480 Speaker 6: guys that really fit in the locker room. We are 60 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:47,959 Speaker 6: seeing they are unafraid of removing people who they don't 61 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 6: deem to be good fits. And in the first year 62 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:54,960 Speaker 6: of a what we call a rebuild rebuilding. 63 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:56,400 Speaker 4: Process, that's what you want to do. 64 00:02:56,600 --> 00:02:58,200 Speaker 6: The first thing that you have to do is get 65 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 6: all the people on the bus that fit culturally, and 66 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 6: then you figure out which way you want to drive 67 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 6: the bus. But you got to get the right people 68 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 6: on the bus. And I think this is part of 69 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:10,399 Speaker 6: the process of making sure that you get the right 70 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 6: folks in the locker room, the right folks believing in 71 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:17,120 Speaker 6: whatever the ethos of the team is, and then they 72 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:19,360 Speaker 6: go about taking care of business in appropriate fashion. 73 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:24,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, I know it's news that everybody in the outside 74 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 5: is gonna be talking about today. And I feel like, 75 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:30,760 Speaker 5: since we have the whole lot of podcast under the 76 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:32,639 Speaker 5: Jaguars three as after it happened, that we should talk 77 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 5: about it more. But as I say at the top, 78 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 5: I don't have that much to say on it because 79 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:40,960 Speaker 5: I didn't really think that much about how he was 80 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 5: going to fit, because I don't think he was going 81 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 5: to be a huge part of it. I didn't know 82 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 5: about the I was not sure how much the knee 83 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 5: was going to allow him to be, and it just 84 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:53,320 Speaker 5: never felt like he was going to be part of this. 85 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 5: I wish him well, I didn't know him very well, 86 00:03:56,960 --> 00:03:59,600 Speaker 5: so I have no ill feelings. It's just I don't 87 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 5: think he is going to be part of this, so 88 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:04,640 Speaker 5: I don't think it matters very much from a football perspective. 89 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 5: That's why I said earlier. I was not trying to 90 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 5: say go get out of here. I don't we know. 91 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 5: Just it was time to just go ahead and move 92 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:14,040 Speaker 5: on to what this was going to be, not what 93 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 5: it was. 94 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 3: So here's what's remaining on the wide receiver room for 95 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:21,120 Speaker 3: the Jaguars. Of course, Brian Thomas Junior heard of him 96 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:24,279 Speaker 3: decent rookie season a year ago. Do Yammy Brown signed 97 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:27,919 Speaker 3: in free agency, Joshua Cephis on the roster, Austin Trammel 98 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:31,279 Speaker 3: on the roster, Parker Washington, David White Junior all on 99 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 3: the roster, and of course Travis Hunter will be coming 100 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 3: in for rookie mini camps starting Thursday on the field 101 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 3: Friday Saturday, actually walking in graduation Thursday, but on the 102 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:42,560 Speaker 3: field slated to be Friday and Saturday. 103 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:43,720 Speaker 2: That's the wide receiver room. 104 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 5: I think you covered Yammy Brown at the top, right, Well, yeah, 105 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:53,120 Speaker 5: it's Yammy Brown, Brian Thomas Junior, Travis Hunter, Oh yeah, 106 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 5: him and Parker Washington at at number four, and then 107 00:04:57,680 --> 00:05:01,680 Speaker 5: figure out the rest and there's opportunit unity there, Bucky, 108 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 5: I don't necessarily, you know, it feels like option open 109 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 5: at some point if they look around and say, you 110 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 5: know what, none of the other five are moving up, 111 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:17,279 Speaker 5: that you could go veteran reasonably priced guy with that 112 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:22,720 Speaker 5: really is scared to do anything. I know they all 113 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:25,480 Speaker 5: so like and his name's going to escape me. The 114 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 5: wide receiver from Elon that they signed in a free agency. 115 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:30,800 Speaker 5: They feel like a guy like that could be part 116 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:33,839 Speaker 5: of this toobe in collegiate free agency. 117 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:36,480 Speaker 6: I'm sorry, no, I look, I think there are a 118 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:38,840 Speaker 6: lot of things that are at play. I think short term, 119 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:41,680 Speaker 6: everyone is going to be excited about Brian Thomas Junior, 120 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:44,720 Speaker 6: Travis Hunt or Park of Washington, and Deany Brown all 121 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:47,040 Speaker 6: getting an opportunity to play, and I think that should 122 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:50,840 Speaker 6: be a reasonable cause for excitement. But I think long term, 123 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 6: this is about setting the table and the budget sheep 124 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:56,600 Speaker 6: for the quarterback about to make a lot of money. 125 00:05:56,800 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 6: When the quarterback makes a ton of money, you have 126 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:01,120 Speaker 6: to find a way to get cheaper around the quarterback 127 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 6: to be able to do it. And so even though 128 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:06,240 Speaker 6: Brian Thomas Junion and Travis Hunter our first round picks 129 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:09,080 Speaker 6: on the books, their contracts are relatively cheap. 130 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:09,840 Speaker 4: When you look at the. 131 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:11,880 Speaker 6: Cost of doing business for an elite wide out at 132 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 6: thirty million plus, Well, now you have two guys at 133 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:18,159 Speaker 6: cost control for the next two to three years before 134 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:21,800 Speaker 6: you have to maybe address their contract situations. While Trevor 135 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 6: is creeping into the bulk of a big deal, you 136 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:28,720 Speaker 6: also have a young player at Parker Washington. He will 137 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 6: kind of determine how long he stays around the program 138 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:35,039 Speaker 6: based on how he plays the performance in production. 139 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 4: Jemmy Brown, I think you're on a one year deal. 140 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 4: We'll see. 141 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:41,600 Speaker 6: And so what you have is you have a foundation 142 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:44,880 Speaker 6: in place to allow Trevor to make a lot of 143 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:48,240 Speaker 6: money with good players around him who are still on 144 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:51,320 Speaker 6: cost control deals that allow you to build the rest 145 00:06:51,320 --> 00:06:54,160 Speaker 6: of the team. This had to happen because if not, 146 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 6: your team would be lopsided where you have all of 147 00:06:57,760 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 6: the money devoted to the offense left to the defense, 148 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 6: and it's really really hard to go about building a 149 00:07:03,720 --> 00:07:05,360 Speaker 6: championship contender in that way. 150 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 5: Yeah, if you look at it like that, JP, I 151 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:09,760 Speaker 5: know Gabe Davis will be dead money on the cap, 152 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 5: but in terms of guys running around on the field, 153 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 5: I think this year Jeam May Brown's ten million dollar 154 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 5: contract for this year will be the most expensive that 155 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 5: they're paying that. Maybe Travis Hunter being the number two 156 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 5: overall could creep into that, but it within NFL cost 157 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 5: It's a very affordable group of skill players. When you 158 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:39,080 Speaker 5: throw Brenton Strange still on rookie deal, all of the 159 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 5: backs on rookie deals Travis, I think in twenty five 160 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:44,880 Speaker 5: because you know, we'll make I. 161 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 2: Think he's making six or seven, because yeah. 162 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:51,840 Speaker 5: It's still not above ten. So except for Trevor, it's 163 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:52,720 Speaker 5: pretty affordable. 164 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, And to your point, Bucky, it's Trevor costs seventeen 165 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 3: against the cap this year, twenty four million against the 166 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:01,960 Speaker 3: cap in twenty six, thirty five million against the cap 167 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 3: in twenty twenty seven, so you basically double it in 168 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 3: two years. 169 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:08,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean that's significant. And what you want to 170 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 4: do is you always want to. 171 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 6: Be ahead of the curve and the dynamics of a 172 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 6: front office work in this manner. The head coach thinks 173 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:19,800 Speaker 6: about today, the general manager thinks about tomorrow and beyond, 174 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:23,120 Speaker 6: and so they're working together to figure out how can 175 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 6: I put the best team on the field today while 176 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 6: also having an eye towards tomorrow. So some of these 177 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:31,880 Speaker 6: moves that we're seeing may are really with an eye 178 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 6: towards tomorrow. And when you hear James Gladstone talk about 179 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:38,520 Speaker 6: the importance of getting the young guys on the field, 180 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:41,679 Speaker 6: that also is part of being able to reward a 181 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:45,760 Speaker 6: handful of stars because we look up Javon Walker is 182 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 6: going to be do a deal on the horizon and 183 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:49,839 Speaker 6: you're gonna have to take care of him. 184 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:51,479 Speaker 4: And you already have Josh ees. 185 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:53,720 Speaker 6: Allen on the books and you're looking at the big 186 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:55,200 Speaker 6: deals that could be in play. 187 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:56,840 Speaker 4: Tyson Campbell makes. 188 00:08:56,600 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 6: A significant amount of money as you rewarding your stars, 189 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:04,520 Speaker 6: and a lot of these stars are drafting developmental stars 190 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:06,839 Speaker 6: that have kind of earned the right to get those 191 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:10,679 Speaker 6: big paydays. You have to surround them with young players 192 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:12,800 Speaker 6: on the cheat that can play at a high level. 193 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 6: That is where that that a front office a is 194 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:19,120 Speaker 6: nudging the coaching staff. Hey, we've got to get the 195 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:21,559 Speaker 6: young guys on the field because these young guys are 196 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:24,240 Speaker 6: going to have to be lynch pins to our ability 197 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 6: to play at a high level with a handful of 198 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:30,960 Speaker 6: stars carrying a significant amount of water. This is all 199 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:34,839 Speaker 6: part of the building process. But look I can apply 200 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 6: to because they've jumped right in. You can tell that 201 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:39,200 Speaker 6: there is a plan in place. Now it's about the 202 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:42,000 Speaker 6: execution of the plan, and you hope that the plan 203 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:45,680 Speaker 6: that we're scripting on paper plays out really, really well 204 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:46,920 Speaker 6: when it comes to play real ball. 205 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:47,720 Speaker 4: Between the lines. 206 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:50,880 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's it's too bad. And I've said this before 207 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 5: and people who don't like, you know, people observers, emailers 208 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 5: who don't like the last regime don't like when I 209 00:09:56,160 --> 00:09:58,080 Speaker 5: say this. I love the last regime did a nice 210 00:09:58,120 --> 00:10:01,480 Speaker 5: job managing the cap until off season. And I've said 211 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:07,280 Speaker 5: this before. They're now trying to fix some stuff that 212 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:10,080 Speaker 5: happened last off season when I thought the old regime 213 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 5: react reacted to twenty three and did some things out 214 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:16,959 Speaker 5: of character even for that regime with the Gabe Davis 215 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:20,480 Speaker 5: and you know, some of the one year's stuff that 216 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 5: they're having to deal with. And but that's sort of bucky. 217 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 5: When you take over, as this regime took over, there 218 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:31,360 Speaker 5: are details you have to clean up, and sometimes those 219 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:34,400 Speaker 5: deals are painful. They gave Davis thing on the Caps painful, 220 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:39,080 Speaker 5: But as you said, you get through it and you 221 00:10:39,160 --> 00:10:41,960 Speaker 5: move on and you try to keep it as clean 222 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:43,840 Speaker 5: as possible, and then one day you wake up and 223 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 5: the old regime's mistakes are in the past. 224 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:49,480 Speaker 4: It is really one of those things. 225 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:51,720 Speaker 6: And here's the thing about like when you have a 226 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:55,720 Speaker 6: team in an organizational philosophy, good years, bad years, or whatever, 227 00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:58,280 Speaker 6: you still don't change your approach to it. You can 228 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:01,880 Speaker 6: rectify some mistakes, but you don't radically overhaul the way 229 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:05,400 Speaker 6: that you go about doing business, because when you make mistakes, 230 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 6: when you make decisions out of desperation, you're more likely 231 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:11,680 Speaker 6: to make mistakes. And now we're having to recover from 232 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:14,240 Speaker 6: some of the free agent mistakes that were made, and 233 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 6: it'll hurt us in the short term, but it is 234 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:21,320 Speaker 6: better to address it now and not that it linger 235 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:24,720 Speaker 6: deal with whatever you have to deal with, salary cap ramifications, 236 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:28,640 Speaker 6: some of the I'll say, maybe discord or shock that 237 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:31,240 Speaker 6: may happen in the locker room, and then move forward, 238 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:34,959 Speaker 6: because the only way to get this team headed in 239 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 6: the right direction is you're gonna have to make some 240 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:39,719 Speaker 6: hard decisions. And look, there's been a willingness right now 241 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:41,840 Speaker 6: by the new regime to make these tough decisions. 242 00:11:41,920 --> 00:11:44,360 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think the locker room shock will be pretty manimal. 243 00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:47,360 Speaker 3: Exactly, and in general, heart they better get used to 244 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:49,360 Speaker 3: it because there's gonna be a lot of change in 245 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:52,199 Speaker 3: that locker room. It's just how it's gonna be moving ahead. 246 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:55,240 Speaker 3: Competition is one of the key words the new season. 247 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:56,840 Speaker 3: Right around the corner in the time to get your 248 00:11:56,920 --> 00:12:01,199 Speaker 3: twenty twenty five season ticket membership, John, it's right now 249 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:02,240 Speaker 3: right now. 250 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:05,640 Speaker 5: Right now, not tomorrow, no time like the President yesterday 251 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:07,120 Speaker 5: now now. 252 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:10,440 Speaker 3: Be at the bank for every touchdown this year's securen 253 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:13,080 Speaker 3: seat at Jaguars dot Com slash tickets or call nine 254 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:16,320 Speaker 3: O four to six three three two thousand. Settle up 255 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:20,439 Speaker 3: with Bucky Brooks, JP, Shadwick, John Oser and Yes, Bucky Brooks. 256 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:24,719 Speaker 3: Rookie Minni Caamp coming up this weekend Friday and Saturday 257 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:28,240 Speaker 3: on the grass. The players starting to arrive today. They'll 258 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:33,000 Speaker 3: be in the building tomorrow for physicals, first meetings, and 259 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 3: then on the field. As we said, Friday and Saturdays 260 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:40,719 Speaker 3: will be open to the public. Travis Hunter not sure 261 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:43,960 Speaker 3: if his travel schedule, but he'll be walking across the 262 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:46,640 Speaker 3: stage for commencement at the University of Colorado. I believe 263 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:50,800 Speaker 3: on Thursday anthropology degree. 264 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:54,319 Speaker 2: John Anthropology. 265 00:12:53,679 --> 00:12:58,720 Speaker 5: I admit, Bucky, I am sort of excited about this 266 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:01,280 Speaker 5: rookie Meedi Camp. I don't either say that a whole lot, 267 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:06,840 Speaker 5: but when there's an energy there, when the fans are 268 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:09,560 Speaker 5: out to see a particular player, JP, I think you 269 00:13:09,559 --> 00:13:12,040 Speaker 5: were here when Blake Bortles they opened his and it 270 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 5: was fantastic, So these are pretty cool. I'm not going 271 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:20,480 Speaker 5: to say that I'm going to learn very much about 272 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:24,960 Speaker 5: football this weekend because of the nature of it. But 273 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:28,240 Speaker 5: it will be cool to allow the fans to watch 274 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 5: these guys run around and to sort of feel what 275 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:33,080 Speaker 5: we're feeling, which is a lot of excitement. 276 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:35,679 Speaker 6: Yeah, there's a lot of I mean, there's a lot 277 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:38,400 Speaker 6: of buzz around it. I love the fact that it's 278 00:13:38,440 --> 00:13:41,600 Speaker 6: open to the public, that Jacks fans will get an 279 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:46,360 Speaker 6: opportunity to just kind of see the buzz that has 280 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 6: been created inside the walls, like just kind of see 281 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:50,920 Speaker 6: that play out. And even though it's a Ricky Manning 282 00:13:50,920 --> 00:13:53,560 Speaker 6: caamp and look it doesn't mean anything, it's the first 283 00:13:53,679 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 6: exposure to a new way of really. 284 00:13:55,840 --> 00:13:57,640 Speaker 4: Being able to see how the Jack Warts are going 285 00:13:57,679 --> 00:13:58,120 Speaker 4: to do things. 286 00:13:58,120 --> 00:13:59,439 Speaker 6: And I know we had the veteran mini camp a 287 00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:01,520 Speaker 6: couple of weeks ago right before the draft, but this 288 00:14:01,559 --> 00:14:03,520 Speaker 6: is different because now you begin to put together you 289 00:14:03,559 --> 00:14:06,320 Speaker 6: can get excited about the draft picks and those things. 290 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:09,520 Speaker 6: It's a really cool deal and I'm really excited about it. 291 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:12,440 Speaker 6: I'm really excited to kind of see and hear how 292 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:14,199 Speaker 6: the young guys are doing and then we're able to 293 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:16,640 Speaker 6: put it all together for the big mini camp that's 294 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:18,600 Speaker 6: when we're able to kind of got to really get 295 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:21,480 Speaker 6: a sense of what this team is at this point 296 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:23,440 Speaker 6: in time when it comes to the smilestone of the 297 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:24,360 Speaker 6: off season program. 298 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:26,400 Speaker 5: I think I ask you this every year, Bucky, but 299 00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:28,480 Speaker 5: I love the questions. I always come back to it. 300 00:14:30,520 --> 00:14:34,600 Speaker 5: You know, every scout I've ever known, and I've known 301 00:14:34,640 --> 00:14:38,400 Speaker 5: my share, has talked about the little feeling in the 302 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 5: pit of your stomach on that rookie mini camp when 303 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 5: you want to make sure your guys are and you 304 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:45,600 Speaker 5: don't want to be walking off with the GM going 305 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 5: what was that? 306 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:47,160 Speaker 3: Buck? 307 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:53,000 Speaker 5: I know, No, have you ever come close to that? 308 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:55,880 Speaker 5: Do you know anybody who's felt that? And I mean 309 00:14:56,120 --> 00:14:58,200 Speaker 5: sometimes a guy gets in and you just know he 310 00:14:58,200 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 5: doesn't belong and it happens. You name. 311 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:09,160 Speaker 4: I can I can tell you distinctly right now. 312 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:12,600 Speaker 6: When I was in Seattle, Chris McIntosh and offensive Taco 313 00:15:12,680 --> 00:15:14,960 Speaker 6: from Wisconsin first round pick. I think he is now 314 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 6: the a d at the University of Wisconsin, so he's 315 00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:20,280 Speaker 6: going about his life, work and then great things. But 316 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:23,840 Speaker 6: that first day of minicamp, I think there was a 317 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:34,480 Speaker 6: collective all right, okay, like let's let's see yeah, listen, 318 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:35,120 Speaker 6: let's see if it. 319 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:38,320 Speaker 4: Maybe it's the first day, maybe it changes. 320 00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:40,960 Speaker 6: But yeah, the first thing that you look at when 321 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:44,480 Speaker 6: you are a scout is come on, man, show up. 322 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:46,680 Speaker 4: Just give me a reason, Just give me a. 323 00:15:46,640 --> 00:15:51,000 Speaker 6: Little give me a little flash so everyone can be like, Okay, god, okay, 324 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:51,800 Speaker 6: I'll see why you liked. 325 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:52,360 Speaker 4: Him a little bit. 326 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:58,080 Speaker 6: Uh. Yeah, Chris McIntosh, he. 327 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:01,240 Speaker 4: Is the one. He is actually, yeah, he is a 328 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:05,440 Speaker 4: D a D at Wisconsin. We took him. 329 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:10,360 Speaker 6: God, what was that first round my first draft? Yeah, 330 00:16:10,880 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 6: two thousand. He played parstitution and had a neck injury. 331 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:19,000 Speaker 6: But yeah, that first one not great, not great. 332 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:23,320 Speaker 3: So now, of course the Jaguars have nine draft picks, 333 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:25,720 Speaker 3: still have what twenty undrafted players. 334 00:16:26,040 --> 00:16:27,600 Speaker 2: In the past, they've had some invited place. 335 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:30,080 Speaker 5: It's twenty two now twenty two they added. But it's 336 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 5: a lot, I mean, and I was guya spucky about 337 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:35,280 Speaker 5: that philosophy. We may have talked to about it last week, 338 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:37,600 Speaker 5: but we have the Huddle Up podcast, we have Bucky. 339 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:37,960 Speaker 4: Brooks k. 340 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:46,640 Speaker 5: They clearly left space roster spots and real opportunity spots, 341 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:52,360 Speaker 5: and by that I mean not necessarily there are spots 342 00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:55,560 Speaker 5: for undrafted rookies to come in and play. Sometimes when 343 00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:58,640 Speaker 5: these undrafted rookies get signed. They get signed, but you 344 00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:01,560 Speaker 5: sort of look at the depth chart, guys alround and say, well, look, 345 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:06,840 Speaker 5: I know who's playing over there. How unusual is that? 346 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:09,560 Speaker 5: How real is that? For James Gladstone to have done 347 00:17:09,560 --> 00:17:14,080 Speaker 5: that basically saying, hey, were it's okay for undrafted rookies. 348 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:18,200 Speaker 5: We embrace that. It's a philosophical organizational thing, right. 349 00:17:18,520 --> 00:17:21,080 Speaker 6: James glass On and those guys have talked about like 350 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:23,879 Speaker 6: the importance of playing the young players, and we early 351 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:26,560 Speaker 6: on the podcast talked about from an economical standpoint, it 352 00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:28,160 Speaker 6: makes a lot of sense to get the young guys 353 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:30,560 Speaker 6: on the field. But to do that, you got to 354 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:34,160 Speaker 6: remove the veterans from those position rooms, because veteran coaches 355 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:36,880 Speaker 6: will go to the older players, because those guys can 356 00:17:36,880 --> 00:17:39,000 Speaker 6: answer the questions, they can trust them on the field 357 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:41,520 Speaker 6: because they've been around the block. When you don't put 358 00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:43,560 Speaker 6: those guys in the room, and you force the coaches 359 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:45,800 Speaker 6: to play the young guys, well, now they got to 360 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:48,320 Speaker 6: build a report and trust that the young guys are 361 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:50,480 Speaker 6: going to get it. They're gonna make it where it's 362 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:52,200 Speaker 6: in their best interesting to get the young guys ready 363 00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:54,400 Speaker 6: to play because're gonna have to play them. The other 364 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:56,400 Speaker 6: thing that you have to do is not only from 365 00:17:56,440 --> 00:17:59,720 Speaker 6: a philosophical standpoint, but from a schematic standpoint. You have 366 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:02,359 Speaker 6: to make make sure that the schemes are easily digestible 367 00:18:02,680 --> 00:18:04,920 Speaker 6: by the young players, because the only way they can 368 00:18:04,920 --> 00:18:06,520 Speaker 6: get on the field is they got to know what 369 00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:09,760 Speaker 6: they're doing. And so in building the playbook, it has 370 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:12,000 Speaker 6: to be catered to the young guys so that they 371 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:14,160 Speaker 6: can be ready to play when we get to not 372 00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:17,280 Speaker 6: only the preseason, but the regular season. It has to 373 00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:19,679 Speaker 6: be a situation where the front office and coaching staff 374 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:22,520 Speaker 6: are on lockstep, and from the outside looking at it 375 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:25,880 Speaker 6: does appear that the Jaguars are committed to getting young 376 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:28,000 Speaker 6: guys on the field and all of the things that 377 00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:30,480 Speaker 6: they're doing when it comes to the percidial part of it, 378 00:18:30,520 --> 00:18:32,800 Speaker 6: but also in practicality in terms of how they going 379 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:33,159 Speaker 6: about it. 380 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:36,199 Speaker 5: Yeah, when you're going to invest in the quarterback and 381 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:39,240 Speaker 5: then you know when you decide what kind of team 382 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:42,439 Speaker 5: you're going to be. Remember in one when the Colts 383 00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:44,320 Speaker 5: fired Jim More when I was there and they brought 384 00:18:44,359 --> 00:18:47,119 Speaker 5: in Tony Dungee, Well, they looked at their roster and 385 00:18:47,160 --> 00:18:50,320 Speaker 5: they knew Peyton Manning, Marvin Harrison, reg Y Wayne was 386 00:18:50,359 --> 00:18:53,320 Speaker 5: coming up date Edwin money was on that side of 387 00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:55,760 Speaker 5: the ball. That wasn't going to change. They weren't trading 388 00:18:55,800 --> 00:18:59,320 Speaker 5: Peyton JP, you know that. So when they brought in 389 00:18:59,359 --> 00:19:02,200 Speaker 5: Tony Dungee with a four to three cover two, which 390 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:06,600 Speaker 5: is an easier scheme for rookies to play than the 391 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:09,360 Speaker 5: three four zone blitz was what it was called back then, 392 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:14,840 Speaker 5: they went with basically seaball get ball play cover two, 393 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:18,879 Speaker 5: and you didn't need experienced linebackers who knew how to 394 00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:23,439 Speaker 5: play zone blitz or who knew complex schemes. So Freenye 395 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:25,840 Speaker 5: and Robert Mathis came along as kids, and they made 396 00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:28,240 Speaker 5: their offense, I mean, I made their defense based on 397 00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:30,639 Speaker 5: that and really didn't pay anybody in the back end 398 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:32,639 Speaker 5: because you didn't need veterans to play that scheme. 399 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:34,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, and theory, you're gonna be up by two touchdowns 400 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:35,719 Speaker 3: a lot of weeks anyway. 401 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:37,040 Speaker 2: That's that kind of offense. 402 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:41,320 Speaker 5: That's how you build philosophically toward that. I don't know 403 00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:45,200 Speaker 5: that that's exactly what this is, Bucky, but in theory, 404 00:19:45,320 --> 00:19:49,280 Speaker 5: that's what you're doing is catering scheme to your personnel 405 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:51,840 Speaker 5: and you and your salary. 406 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:54,280 Speaker 6: Cap yeah, and and and and to me, it makes 407 00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:55,840 Speaker 6: a lot of sense. And I would say from a 408 00:19:55,840 --> 00:19:59,240 Speaker 6: schematic standpoint, we've heard the team talk about being a 409 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:01,520 Speaker 6: little more zone base, a little more vision and break 410 00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:04,640 Speaker 6: bas having known the scheme that they're talking about implementing 411 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:05,560 Speaker 6: and what they want to do. 412 00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:07,720 Speaker 4: It is one that look. 413 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:09,679 Speaker 6: Has its roots in the college game, and so there 414 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:11,120 Speaker 6: have been a lot of people that have been able 415 00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:13,480 Speaker 6: to take that system and get guys ready to play 416 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:16,119 Speaker 6: and get after it. And so I'm excited to see 417 00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:19,520 Speaker 6: how it plays out. Defensively it makes sense. Then offensively 418 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:23,320 Speaker 6: it may be a little what I call higher education 419 00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:27,639 Speaker 6: stuff like it may have more thinking and processes in 420 00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:29,280 Speaker 6: place where you have to be able to get after 421 00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:31,240 Speaker 6: the young guys should be able to absorb it. But 422 00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:35,080 Speaker 6: I definitely believe from a defensive standpoint it is more 423 00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:38,520 Speaker 6: of a seaball get ball defense then maybe we've seen 424 00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:42,280 Speaker 6: in the past, even though we've heard those terms coined before, 425 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:47,000 Speaker 6: more believing that this might have a chance to be 426 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:47,880 Speaker 6: able to get that done. 427 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:50,560 Speaker 2: John, what do you want to see from Travis Hunter 428 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:51,040 Speaker 2: this weekend? 429 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:54,280 Speaker 5: I guess I just want to see, you know, I 430 00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:57,879 Speaker 5: want to see how he carries himself. I think we 431 00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:00,960 Speaker 5: already know what we're going to see. It's just kind 432 00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:03,800 Speaker 5: of cool to see it in person. It was, I mean, 433 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:08,960 Speaker 5: the most vivid memory I have in fifteen years of 434 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:12,400 Speaker 5: being here where you saw a guy and you went, well, okay, 435 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:15,560 Speaker 5: that's why they drafted him. Blackman had an element of 436 00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:18,640 Speaker 5: that because of the hands, but I can remember Jalen's 437 00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:22,720 Speaker 5: first day and you sort of knew, oh, okay, well 438 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:26,560 Speaker 5: this is different, and you knew they weren't gonna play 439 00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:28,920 Speaker 5: any games with Okay, he's going to earn the job, 440 00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:32,840 Speaker 5: you know. So I think you just want to see. 441 00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:35,760 Speaker 5: You want to see him pop off the page, which 442 00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:39,320 Speaker 5: I'm sure he will, but that's what was advertised, is 443 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:41,879 Speaker 5: the YouTube sensation, the guy that your eyes are going 444 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:44,560 Speaker 5: to be drawn to. I think it's fair to expect that. 445 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:45,000 Speaker 4: Bucky. 446 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:51,160 Speaker 6: Look, we should be able to see the energy right away. 447 00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:53,919 Speaker 6: I think the one thing that he does is he 448 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:54,600 Speaker 6: comes with a. 449 00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:55,280 Speaker 4: Lot of energy. 450 00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:58,560 Speaker 6: His love of the ball and his enthusiasm kind of 451 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:02,119 Speaker 6: stands out. You want to see and feel that because 452 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:05,639 Speaker 6: what happens is, you know we talk about they call 453 00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:08,000 Speaker 6: them thermostat leaders like they changed the temperature of the 454 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:09,399 Speaker 6: room whenever they step into it. 455 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:11,000 Speaker 4: Travis Hunter has that. 456 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:14,520 Speaker 6: Feel to him, and as he brings the energy, those 457 00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:17,639 Speaker 6: around him are also going to match that energy and 458 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:20,040 Speaker 6: it just changes the ten and the dynamics of the team. 459 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:22,119 Speaker 6: Want to see some of that from him, but you 460 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:24,720 Speaker 6: also want to see these other guys, the young guys, 461 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:26,480 Speaker 6: we always call it flashes. 462 00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:27,520 Speaker 4: Can they just. 463 00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:30,880 Speaker 6: Flash a little bit of that ability and talent that 464 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:34,760 Speaker 6: really led you to put them in consideration as a 465 00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:37,480 Speaker 6: draftable player or even as a candidate that you wanted 466 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:40,080 Speaker 6: to size as an undrafted free agent. Can you see 467 00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:43,600 Speaker 6: some of those redeeming qualities and traits show up right away? 468 00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:46,000 Speaker 6: And are there some things there that you can build 469 00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:49,320 Speaker 6: upon where you can project out how they may develop. 470 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:50,840 Speaker 3: Over the course of the summer, And let's see what 471 00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:53,680 Speaker 3: they're actually made to do on the field as well. 472 00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:56,399 Speaker 3: I mean, remember years ago it was they had eleven 473 00:22:56,440 --> 00:22:59,879 Speaker 3: on eleven work and that's when Dante Faller was in 474 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:08,280 Speaker 3: that first rookie mini camp that was ended that. 475 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:07,520 Speaker 6: Some of that, some of that, some of that stuff happens, 476 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:09,639 Speaker 6: but like, hey, yeah, we can't put them in bubble 477 00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:10,800 Speaker 6: wrap at some point. 478 00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:16,560 Speaker 2: But we gotta go now, I will go, I. 479 00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:18,240 Speaker 4: Will say, because here's the thing. 480 00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:21,240 Speaker 6: When you get them around, you just don't know the 481 00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:23,840 Speaker 6: level of conditioning where all these guys are. Because some 482 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:27,240 Speaker 6: guys have been on the uh banquet circuit kind of 483 00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:29,440 Speaker 6: going around eating, we don't know if they've been doing 484 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:30,480 Speaker 6: their regular workouts. 485 00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:32,400 Speaker 4: Other guys have been grinding all the way through. 486 00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:36,840 Speaker 6: Sometimes the mini camp is a general assessment to be 487 00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:40,480 Speaker 6: able to have the coaches, particularly the strength and conditioning coaches, 488 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:43,040 Speaker 6: assess where they are and to be able to tell 489 00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:45,320 Speaker 6: the players, hey, here's where we need to get to 490 00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:47,760 Speaker 6: by the time we're at the end of May. We 491 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:51,920 Speaker 6: need to kind of work up your conditioning. Here's the program. 492 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:54,360 Speaker 6: Let's get some of these things accomplished so we can go. 493 00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:58,080 Speaker 6: So there is something to not jumping right in eleven 494 00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:01,320 Speaker 6: on eleven having an assessment. But maybe you can give 495 00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:03,879 Speaker 6: the people just a little tasty cake, like a little 496 00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:06,280 Speaker 6: just a little a little snippet maybe just like a 497 00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:08,600 Speaker 6: little four polace sequences where we kind of see a 498 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:09,360 Speaker 6: little ball. 499 00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:10,240 Speaker 4: So we can get excited. 500 00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:14,440 Speaker 6: So John can can kind of monitor the completions, the incompletions, 501 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:15,240 Speaker 6: the touchdowns. 502 00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:16,920 Speaker 4: Some of those. 503 00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:20,520 Speaker 5: Clips there will be no monitoring. I want to watch 504 00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:24,040 Speaker 5: Hunter and Too and run far and fast a couple 505 00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:26,080 Speaker 5: of times, and then I'm gonna. 506 00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:30,200 Speaker 2: Go home offense and reps on defense. 507 00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:38,919 Speaker 5: I also think you will see uh, Caleb Ransaw and 508 00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:41,760 Speaker 5: the Navy safety lane. 509 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:41,560 Speaker 4: Wait. 510 00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:46,199 Speaker 5: I think you can see from those positions some agility, 511 00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:49,800 Speaker 5: some suddenness. I'd be surprised from what I know of 512 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:53,119 Speaker 5: Ransow if he doesn't show up ready to go. Uh. 513 00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:56,200 Speaker 5: I think all these guys, I mean, I think you'll 514 00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:58,280 Speaker 5: see all these guys as guys who come in ready. 515 00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:01,359 Speaker 5: Most players don't come in that, you know, not ready 516 00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:04,959 Speaker 5: for this anymore, especially passed the first round. It's all 517 00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:08,560 Speaker 5: the story Fred Taylor told us where Fred basically went 518 00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:12,320 Speaker 5: off and did nothing for two months, ran a four 519 00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:15,320 Speaker 5: to two nine at his pro day, and then came back. 520 00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:19,040 Speaker 5: And you know, he has told me stories. He had 521 00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:20,119 Speaker 5: quite a banquet circuit. 522 00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:24,119 Speaker 2: YEA love I love the banquet circuit. 523 00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:28,080 Speaker 5: Well, JP is the king of the banquet circuit. 524 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:29,000 Speaker 2: I'm all about it. 525 00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:33,280 Speaker 3: Hey, the Dailies play season continues you very soon. Teddy 526 00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:37,040 Speaker 3: Swims sold out show May tenth. Kodak Black is in 527 00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:39,920 Speaker 3: for t. Payne May thirty first, Sticks Kevin Cronin, Don 528 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:43,679 Speaker 3: Felder June second, starting a busy month of June Dailiesplace 529 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:46,680 Speaker 3: dot com now for tickets and show information. 530 00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:48,719 Speaker 2: Phase two is upon us. 531 00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:52,040 Speaker 3: Players are running our own without helmets out there as 532 00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:54,560 Speaker 3: we speak. The veteran players and the rookies will be 533 00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:57,639 Speaker 3: here this weekend and football is in full go. 534 00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:01,480 Speaker 5: She's thinking, JP, I saw Sticks the coliseum forty six 535 00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:04,280 Speaker 5: years ago. Wow, I'm probably not. 536 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:06,040 Speaker 2: Going to go back, going back to check him out. 537 00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:07,719 Speaker 5: I'm not going to see the next time around. 538 00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:10,159 Speaker 4: You don't see if you don't want to see, if Da've. 539 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:15,560 Speaker 5: Improved, improved, new material waiting to spring out this years 540 00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:18,679 Speaker 5: of experience. It was the Pieces of Eight tour. So 541 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:22,000 Speaker 5: I think it's yeah, it was. 542 00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:22,439 Speaker 4: It was. 543 00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:26,160 Speaker 5: It was a good ship. I enjoyed it to see 544 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:26,400 Speaker 5: it again. 545 00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:29,000 Speaker 6: About talk about forty years ago, you're talking about fourteen 546 00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:31,200 Speaker 6: year old Bucky Brooks just kind of hanging out, trying 547 00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:32,080 Speaker 6: to trying. 548 00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:32,520 Speaker 4: To put it together. 549 00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:36,160 Speaker 6: I don't know if my American bandstand watching days were 550 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:37,119 Speaker 6: in full effect that. 551 00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:39,960 Speaker 5: Unfortunately, it was forty six years ago. 552 00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:42,520 Speaker 2: I was three years old. 553 00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:49,160 Speaker 5: It was seventy. Yeah, forty any great version of Renegade 554 00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:50,199 Speaker 5: that night? I do remember that. 555 00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:53,959 Speaker 6: Yeah, the eight year old me was definitely not not 556 00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:54,800 Speaker 6: into it. 557 00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:56,840 Speaker 4: Is that the same Renegade? Did they play in Pistas? 558 00:26:56,880 --> 00:27:00,800 Speaker 5: The same one? Same one? It was, And sadly for me, 559 00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:02,439 Speaker 5: it was on the radio at the time, it was 560 00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:03,000 Speaker 5: a hit. 561 00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:03,560 Speaker 2: At the time. 562 00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:06,040 Speaker 5: I enjoyed it. 563 00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:06,480 Speaker 2: It was fun. 564 00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:07,520 Speaker 5: I remember. 565 00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:09,200 Speaker 2: It was what they call classic rock. 566 00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:11,800 Speaker 5: It hits hits, classic rock. It's old man's rock. 567 00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:15,520 Speaker 3: Bucky, this is what I have to deal with every day. 568 00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:18,320 Speaker 3: And are you coming for rookie Camp? Come on, Bucky, 569 00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:18,960 Speaker 3: get over here. 570 00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:21,159 Speaker 4: I'm surprised. You never know, man, you never know. 571 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:23,200 Speaker 6: I made show up on Saturday morning fresh off of 572 00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:23,680 Speaker 6: Red Eye. 573 00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:26,440 Speaker 2: Woop, hop on that PJ and get over here, come on. 574 00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:29,600 Speaker 4: Right ready to go full Like, what's the weather? I 575 00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:31,640 Speaker 4: got to make sure it's not too hot because I can't. 576 00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:34,120 Speaker 2: Go with this too Florida. Bro come on, it's always. 577 00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:36,080 Speaker 4: I can't kidding me and go with it's too hot. 578 00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:37,520 Speaker 4: I need to make sure to Let's look. 579 00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:39,600 Speaker 2: At the weather forecast eighty one on Saturday. 580 00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:42,400 Speaker 4: Oh what's the amidity like? Though? You know that that 581 00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:43,760 Speaker 4: that meant that matters. 582 00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:44,480 Speaker 5: More hasn't been bad yet. 583 00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:45,679 Speaker 2: Really, No, it hasn't. 584 00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:50,280 Speaker 3: What's it now, I'm looking at today humidity currently at 585 00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:52,639 Speaker 3: fifty six percent. 586 00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:55,800 Speaker 6: Not bad, it's dangerous. It's dangerous. I might be in 587 00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:59,080 Speaker 6: a full on sweat from the core to the mick. 588 00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:04,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, yet that's your when you get like seventy seventy 589 00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:05,520 Speaker 3: five percent and. 590 00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:07,320 Speaker 5: Your talking it's training camp stuff there. 591 00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:10,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, I might may have to up enough. 592 00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:12,480 Speaker 6: No, I may have to call in the favors see 593 00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:14,960 Speaker 6: if they can move to those practices to six to eight, six. 594 00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:22,240 Speaker 5: Am to eighty before comes. Talk about the banquet circuit, we. 595 00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:22,560 Speaker 2: Can get that. 596 00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:25,359 Speaker 6: I'm not fully I'm not fully leaded up in in 597 00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:27,520 Speaker 6: season shape. I need to kind of ramp that up 598 00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:27,919 Speaker 6: a little bit. 599 00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:29,080 Speaker 5: It sounds like he's around the bank. 600 00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:32,879 Speaker 2: Does sound like that? No, the draft, that's basically have 601 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:34,280 Speaker 2: one big banquet circuit. 602 00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:35,879 Speaker 4: Pre driving big bankers circuit. 603 00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:40,040 Speaker 6: Yes, we're already looking ahead to twenty twenty six to quarterbacks, quarterbacks, 604 00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:40,920 Speaker 6: a lot of quarterbacks. 605 00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:45,400 Speaker 3: Golden we talked about and he hadn't thrown a pass yet. 606 00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:47,320 Speaker 6: Yeah, there are a lot of guys now, I mean 607 00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:48,800 Speaker 6: there are a lot of guys to watch. I mean, 608 00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:51,040 Speaker 6: you got arch Man and who everyone is talking about 609 00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:53,320 Speaker 6: like he's only played started two games, but he is 610 00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:55,160 Speaker 6: the presumptive QB one of the class. 611 00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:55,600 Speaker 4: We'll see. 612 00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:59,200 Speaker 6: Then you have Drew Aller from Penn State. You have 613 00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:02,560 Speaker 6: a little more sell from South Carolina, who's a dude. 614 00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:08,120 Speaker 6: You have Garrett Neussmar from LSU who is certainly coming on. 615 00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:12,440 Speaker 4: You have public Enemy number one, Nico who is at 616 00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:13,040 Speaker 4: u c l A. 617 00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:14,560 Speaker 6: He's probably give me a number one, but he's in 618 00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:18,960 Speaker 6: the mix. I mean, you have a really got nice talent. 619 00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:21,440 Speaker 6: You got nice election of quarterbacks that are coming through. 620 00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:23,200 Speaker 3: Tell you what, Penn Station's gonna be tough to beat 621 00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:26,080 Speaker 3: this year. They're the team. They're the team. They got 622 00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:28,800 Speaker 3: a bunch of guys back Penn. 623 00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:33,360 Speaker 6: States to my Knowles, Jim Knowles, Jim Knowles in the 624 00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:37,520 Speaker 6: defense coming Like what about Alabama? 625 00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:40,600 Speaker 4: Alabama didn't have a transfer. It's great. 626 00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:43,880 Speaker 2: They have a new quarterback whoever that's gonna be. 627 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:49,120 Speaker 4: Got Georgia got the Gators coming. Gators are coming on, 628 00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:51,040 Speaker 4: like game bus Texas. 629 00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:53,800 Speaker 6: This should be good, should be fun function. 630 00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:57,480 Speaker 3: It should be fun. Times should be We got a 631 00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:00,840 Speaker 3: long way to go. Long off season of tracking stats. 632 00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:03,320 Speaker 3: Bucky will talk to you again next week. 633 00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:08,040 Speaker 6: If I don't see you Saturday, Yeah, next week it 634 00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:08,520 Speaker 6: would be. 635 00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:10,560 Speaker 3: We'll do a special one of these if you show 636 00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:12,280 Speaker 3: up on Saturday. 637 00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:15,160 Speaker 2: I love that. Bucky Brooks, John Osier, m J P. 638 00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:19,120 Speaker 3: Shadwick our thanks to Brett Reever, Joe Fortunato, and thanks 639 00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:22,600 Speaker 3: to you for listening and watching Huddle Up with Bucky Brooks.