WEBVTT - America’s Crime Problem with Heather Mac Donald 0:00:00.280 --> 0:00:03.720 So we alsold the images out of Philadelphia when young 0:00:03.840 --> 0:00:08.080 people looted and ran stacked Ohahua store in the city's 0:00:08.160 --> 0:00:11.639 northeast side, including outside of the parking lot, with large 0:00:11.640 --> 0:00:15.160 groups engaging and fighting with each other, just complete lawlessness. 0:00:15.160 --> 0:00:17.880 In the city of Philadelphia. At least twenty people were 0:00:17.920 --> 0:00:22.640 shot four deaths over the weekend. Chicago, almost forty people 0:00:22.680 --> 0:00:25.560 were shot this weekend. This last weekend, seven were killed. 0:00:26.040 --> 0:00:29.880 So what's happening in America cities? How has it gotten 0:00:30.040 --> 0:00:32.680 this bad? And how did we arrive at this place 0:00:32.720 --> 0:00:36.600 where somehow criminals are the victims. People put up statues 0:00:36.640 --> 0:00:39.080 of George Floyd, a guy who put a gun to 0:00:39.159 --> 0:00:42.160 a woman's stomach as him and his friends robbed her 0:00:42.560 --> 0:00:46.200 in her house. Kamala Harris, our own vice president, told 0:00:46.280 --> 0:00:49.440 Jacob Blake, who had showed up at a woman's house 0:00:49.479 --> 0:00:52.160 to re victimize her in Wisconsin then pulled the knife 0:00:52.200 --> 0:00:55.320 on police officers. Kamala Harris told him that she's proud 0:00:55.360 --> 0:00:57.920 of him. So how did we get to this place 0:00:57.960 --> 0:01:02.040 where criminals are somehow the victims and in the instance 0:01:02.040 --> 0:01:06.320 of George Floyd, we're actually lionizing them. And how responsible 0:01:06.880 --> 0:01:09.880 is someone like George Soros and getting these d A 0:01:09.959 --> 0:01:13.160 s elected. We're gonna ask all these questions to Heather 0:01:13.400 --> 0:01:15.840 McDonald that you know her. She wrote that book with 0:01:15.880 --> 0:01:18.280 the War on Cops. It's an incredible book. She's an 0:01:18.280 --> 0:01:22.840 author of seven, several books in fact, always smart, always sistaining. 0:01:22.959 --> 0:01:25.560 She's also a fellow at the Manhattan Institute and a 0:01:25.600 --> 0:01:30.640 contributing editor of the Institute's City Journal. So we're gonna 0:01:30.680 --> 0:01:34.200 ask her about all these things. And this is obviously 0:01:34.240 --> 0:01:37.960 becoming a big issue heading into the midterm elections as well. 0:01:38.000 --> 0:01:39.720 So how is that going to play out? So all 0:01:39.800 --> 0:01:42.360 these questions to Heather McDonald, you're gonna want to listen 0:01:42.360 --> 0:01:45.760 to this. She's always great, always smart, always insightful. Here 0:01:45.800 --> 0:01:58.640 she has Heather McDonald's Heather, I talked to you. I 0:01:58.680 --> 0:02:01.680 think it might have been maybe a year ago about 0:02:01.720 --> 0:02:03.760 some of these issues. But it doesn't seem to be 0:02:03.840 --> 0:02:07.360 letting up. This crime sweeping America. You know. Senator Ted 0:02:07.400 --> 0:02:10.320 Cruz just tweeted talking about violent crime levels and Democrat 0:02:10.440 --> 0:02:14.080 runs cities like Baltimore, l A, Philly, d C. New 0:02:14.160 --> 0:02:16.840 York all on track to beat their two thousand one 0:02:16.960 --> 0:02:20.440 violent crime levels. You know, violent crime up in cities 0:02:20.480 --> 0:02:22.800 like New York. I think forty from last year is 0:02:22.800 --> 0:02:26.200 what he tweeted. How bad is it right now in 0:02:26.200 --> 0:02:30.120 American cities? Well, it's very bad. It's particularly bad depending 0:02:30.120 --> 0:02:33.000 on where you live. The fact remains, Lee says. It 0:02:33.040 --> 0:02:37.200 always has been the case that the vast majority of 0:02:37.280 --> 0:02:42.840 violent street crime is committed in minority neighborhoods against minority victims, 0:02:42.880 --> 0:02:47.600 committed by minority perpetrators. But since the George Floyd riots, 0:02:47.840 --> 0:02:51.320 not only has UH the homicide and drive by shooting 0:02:51.400 --> 0:02:55.400 rates in those inner city neighborhoods just gone up massively, 0:02:55.880 --> 0:03:00.880 but it is also spreading into safer neighborhood We saw 0:03:01.400 --> 0:03:06.680 last year places like Chicago that established police presence at 0:03:06.720 --> 0:03:10.960 designated hours at gas stations in the suburbs because people 0:03:11.040 --> 0:03:13.720 were getting car jacks. You could go and fill your 0:03:13.720 --> 0:03:18.280 tank when despite the high prices, you get ripped off 0:03:18.360 --> 0:03:22.520 that way, but at least your car wouldn't be stolen. Uh. 0:03:22.560 --> 0:03:27.440 And people are getting robbed on in restaurants, you know, 0:03:27.520 --> 0:03:31.079 their their their watches are being stolen. And there's also 0:03:31.280 --> 0:03:37.000 just an appalling level of gratuitous violence that the knockout 0:03:37.080 --> 0:03:41.080 game has been resurrected where where inner city youth are 0:03:41.120 --> 0:03:44.160 coming up and just bashing people on the back of 0:03:44.200 --> 0:03:49.000 their heads. Uh. The anti Asian violence is particularly egregious. 0:03:49.200 --> 0:03:52.320 The mainstream media and the Biden administration have a phony 0:03:52.400 --> 0:03:56.040 narrative that this is all white supremacy. Uh. If you've 0:03:56.080 --> 0:03:58.760 seen any of the videos of these anti Asian hate 0:03:59.080 --> 0:04:03.920 hate attacks, they're almost exclusively committed by blacks. Uh. So, 0:04:03.920 --> 0:04:09.200 so you have a rapid disintegration of social norms and 0:04:09.320 --> 0:04:13.960 the rightful expectation of safety that all Americans deserve to 0:04:14.000 --> 0:04:16.359 bring when they go outside. You know, you look at 0:04:16.360 --> 0:04:17.920 a lot of these cities, like, for instance, I used 0:04:17.920 --> 0:04:19.520 to live in the West Village in New York. It 0:04:19.600 --> 0:04:23.279 was a pretty safe city, right, So crime seemed even 0:04:23.279 --> 0:04:26.280 more specific to certain neighborhoods. If you avoid those neighborhoods, 0:04:26.279 --> 0:04:28.520 you're largely okay. As you just mentioned, a lot of 0:04:28.600 --> 0:04:31.520 these cities like New York, Chicago, it's seeping out into 0:04:31.520 --> 0:04:34.520 the suburbs, is expanding. Why why do you think that's 0:04:34.520 --> 0:04:38.760 happening just because we've given such a green light to criminals. 0:04:39.040 --> 0:04:42.280 Why not? You know, you can you can expand your 0:04:42.400 --> 0:04:45.839 range of victims. Uh. And there's just a sense of 0:04:46.000 --> 0:04:49.960 entitlements these, you know, I would say, I go back 0:04:50.000 --> 0:04:52.800 and forth in my mind over this, Lisa, which is 0:04:52.880 --> 0:04:57.240 worse the mass looting, the mass retail theft, or the 0:04:57.480 --> 0:05:01.960 or the physical violence and in it are Arguably it's 0:05:02.000 --> 0:05:07.159 the mass looting that is even more disturbing as to 0:05:07.240 --> 0:05:10.360 what's happening in our society because the one of the 0:05:10.440 --> 0:05:15.400 primary missions of government is to protect property. Not because 0:05:15.720 --> 0:05:19.279 you know, we're greedy or or you know, fiendishly averages 0:05:19.320 --> 0:05:22.839 are capitalistic. It's because property is what human beings create 0:05:22.880 --> 0:05:27.080 when they go about the miracle of trade and commerce. 0:05:27.200 --> 0:05:30.680 And if you can't secure property, if the government cannot 0:05:30.720 --> 0:05:35.360 secure property, it has no legitimacy left. And and that 0:05:35.560 --> 0:05:40.159 is now absolutely pervasive. Here in New York. You can't 0:05:40.160 --> 0:05:42.920 buy a tube of toothpaste. The toothpaste is locked up. 0:05:43.120 --> 0:05:48.800 The criminals aren't. The most trivial items of daily youth truth. Toothpaste, 0:05:48.839 --> 0:05:53.440 shaving cream, lotion are all locked up behind plexiglass barriers 0:05:53.960 --> 0:05:58.320 because the shoplifting problem is so great and stores would 0:05:58.440 --> 0:06:03.279 rather this, you know, make make it very difficult for customers. 0:06:03.560 --> 0:06:07.000 If not closed down entirely, then a cost shoplifters and 0:06:07.080 --> 0:06:10.000 be inevitably accused of racism. Do we have any idea 0:06:10.080 --> 0:06:12.719 what the net economic impact of all this is? You know, 0:06:12.800 --> 0:06:15.839 we look at places, you know, companies like Starbucks announcing 0:06:15.839 --> 0:06:19.080 its closing sixteen locations, and some of these major cities 0:06:19.080 --> 0:06:21.960 like DC, Seattle, Los Angeles, Philly. The list goes on. 0:06:22.600 --> 0:06:26.960 McDonald's chief executive officer recently, you know, warned about crime 0:06:27.000 --> 0:06:29.760 gripping Chicago at being an issue for his company. We've 0:06:29.760 --> 0:06:33.359 seen companies or financial groups like Citadel heading out, heading 0:06:33.360 --> 0:06:36.280 to Miami leaving Chicago. Do we have any idea what 0:06:37.000 --> 0:06:39.839 the economic impact has been on some of these cities 0:06:39.960 --> 0:06:41.440 because of crime and not being able to get it 0:06:41.480 --> 0:06:45.359 under control. Well, it certainly is in the hundreds of 0:06:45.400 --> 0:06:48.200 millions of dollars, I would think. And it's of course 0:06:48.279 --> 0:06:52.800 the business owners that suffered the most that lose customers 0:06:52.839 --> 0:06:55.719 when people go online. You know, why why go to 0:06:56.279 --> 0:06:59.000 Dwayne Read or Walgreens and have to wait for somebody 0:06:59.040 --> 0:07:01.440 to come and unlocked your toothpaste if you can just 0:07:01.480 --> 0:07:05.160 buy online. You've got a white flight going on like 0:07:05.240 --> 0:07:09.320 crazy from cities where all these progressive liberals won't talk 0:07:09.400 --> 0:07:11.840 about crime because they think it's racist to do so, 0:07:12.160 --> 0:07:15.120 but they're voting with their feet. Uh. So you have 0:07:15.160 --> 0:07:20.000 a redistribution, but it's it's really hurting uh inner city corps. 0:07:20.040 --> 0:07:23.040 And we saw the reverse happen in New York City 0:07:23.040 --> 0:07:26.920 in the in the under Mayor Rudolph Giuliani, where he 0:07:27.240 --> 0:07:34.320 threw proactive constitutional color blind policing brought crime down, and 0:07:34.360 --> 0:07:36.760 it continued to go down until we had married to 0:07:36.760 --> 0:07:40.320 Blasio and the George Floyd rights to be ultimately crimed up. 0:07:41.760 --> 0:07:46.880 The economic power of that was massive. The tourism industry 0:07:46.920 --> 0:07:52.040 came back, restaurants you know, started up all over the city. Uh. 0:07:52.080 --> 0:07:54.920 And so you can just put that in in reverse 0:07:55.000 --> 0:08:00.200 gear and understand how it affects things where people are 0:08:00.200 --> 0:08:03.720 worried about staying out light late and taking the subway home. 0:08:04.200 --> 0:08:05.800 You know, you're not going to go to that late 0:08:05.880 --> 0:08:08.240 night show. If you're worried about that, You're not gonna 0:08:08.640 --> 0:08:12.280 stay around at a restaurant or go out to a restaurant. Uh. 0:08:12.440 --> 0:08:14.559 If you if you don't want to pay cab fare 0:08:15.160 --> 0:08:17.880 and and fear that the subway you're gonna get bashed 0:08:17.960 --> 0:08:20.880 or pushed into the into the tracks. I wouldn't take 0:08:20.880 --> 0:08:23.560 the subway in New York. I lived there for three years. 0:08:23.560 --> 0:08:25.920 I used to take the subway every single day to 0:08:26.120 --> 0:08:28.880 work to Fox or not every day, but most days 0:08:28.960 --> 0:08:31.760 to the Fox headquarters in Midtown. I took it every 0:08:31.800 --> 0:08:33.319 single day. I never really worried about it. Mean, I 0:08:33.320 --> 0:08:35.840 wouldn't take it super late at night. I wouldn't take 0:08:35.840 --> 0:08:37.400 it if I had been, you know, drinking at all 0:08:37.440 --> 0:08:40.000 with friends. But I always felt safe. I wouldn't take 0:08:40.000 --> 0:08:41.720 it now. And that seems to be the sentiment of 0:08:41.760 --> 0:08:43.240 most of the people I talked about I talked to 0:08:43.320 --> 0:08:46.400 in the city. Absolutely. I just got back to New 0:08:46.480 --> 0:08:50.520 York from California, and I'm really, I'm really making that calculation. 0:08:50.760 --> 0:08:53.360 It's so much easier to use than surface streets. But 0:08:54.000 --> 0:08:58.720 there's just been such a regular string of a violent 0:08:58.800 --> 0:09:01.160 crime in the subway ways, and you just think, is 0:09:01.200 --> 0:09:03.720 it Is it worth it? And and this was another 0:09:03.800 --> 0:09:06.160 sign of the rebirth of New York. And I could 0:09:06.200 --> 0:09:09.640 get out at my local subway stop on the Lexington 0:09:09.760 --> 0:09:12.760 Line at at eleven PM and there'd be people pouring 0:09:12.800 --> 0:09:17.320 out because they felt safe about staying late at work 0:09:17.400 --> 0:09:20.800 or work going out for drinks. That's not happening now. 0:09:20.840 --> 0:09:23.840 I can guarantee you well, and you got to this earlier. 0:09:23.880 --> 0:09:27.280 But we're in this weird time where the left almost 0:09:27.320 --> 0:09:30.400 sees criminals as if they're the victims. Yeah, we've put 0:09:30.440 --> 0:09:33.440 up statues of George Floyd. You know, Kamala Harris told 0:09:33.520 --> 0:09:35.520 Jacob Blake, who showed up at a woman's house to 0:09:35.559 --> 0:09:38.040 re victimize her pulled a knife on police, that she 0:09:38.120 --> 0:09:40.840 was proud of him. How do how do we arrive 0:09:40.960 --> 0:09:44.319 at this place where not only are criminals somehow the victims, 0:09:44.360 --> 0:09:48.000 but in the instance of George Floyd, were lionizing them. Well, 0:09:48.040 --> 0:09:50.960 I'm going to broach a very difficult topical, Lisa, which 0:09:51.000 --> 0:09:54.360 is race. And it's something that well meaning Americans just 0:09:54.400 --> 0:09:57.199 don't want to talk about. You know, we're the opposite 0:09:57.200 --> 0:10:00.920 of white supremacists. Uh we we don't want to say 0:10:00.960 --> 0:10:05.040 the obvious. It's because the vast majority of violent street 0:10:05.040 --> 0:10:10.000 criminals are black into a lesser stent Hispanics and well 0:10:10.040 --> 0:10:13.720 meaning Americans turn their eyes away from that reality, and 0:10:13.960 --> 0:10:18.160 we are unwinding law enforcement in the name of avoiding 0:10:18.200 --> 0:10:20.960 so called disparate impact, which is the fact that if 0:10:21.000 --> 0:10:24.959 you police in a color blind neutral fashion, you will 0:10:25.000 --> 0:10:29.200 have a negative disparate impact on black criminals because their 0:10:29.360 --> 0:10:33.880 rates of crime among blacks is so much higher. For example, 0:10:33.920 --> 0:10:38.280 in New York City, blacks are the population, but they 0:10:38.320 --> 0:10:41.240 commit about three quarters of all drive by shootings. If 0:10:41.280 --> 0:10:44.640 you add Hispanic drive by shootings to that, you account 0:10:44.679 --> 0:10:48.520 for virtually all drive by shootings in the city. All 0:10:48.520 --> 0:10:51.080 whites are not committing drive by shootings. That is the 0:10:51.120 --> 0:10:55.320 reality in every single American city. And so we've decided 0:10:55.360 --> 0:10:59.240 that rather enforced the law. If if if arresting those 0:10:59.559 --> 0:11:03.560 retail all theft vandals, the people that are walking into 0:11:03.559 --> 0:11:06.400 stores with with trash bags and just filling them out 0:11:06.440 --> 0:11:10.680 and filling them up and strolling out, uh, that will 0:11:10.760 --> 0:11:15.040 result in disparate arrest of minority shoplifters. We've decided we'd 0:11:15.080 --> 0:11:17.960 rather not enforced the law. We'd rather not increase so 0:11:18.040 --> 0:11:22.320 called mass incarceration of blacks, which is not mass. It 0:11:22.440 --> 0:11:25.840 is incarceration, It is not mass, It is not disproportionate 0:11:25.840 --> 0:11:28.280 to the crime rate in our country. Nobody wants to 0:11:28.280 --> 0:11:32.440 acknowledge that. Uh. And so if there were not racial 0:11:32.480 --> 0:11:37.040 disparities and incarceration in police saying, we would not be 0:11:37.240 --> 0:11:42.800 unwinding the law system. We would say, block them up 0:11:42.840 --> 0:11:45.559 and throw away the key. But it's because of our 0:11:47.400 --> 0:11:52.439 understandable guilt about racism in the past in this country 0:11:52.480 --> 0:11:55.960 that we are turning our eyes away from what's happening 0:11:55.960 --> 0:11:59.240 now in the streets and and the irony, Lisa, you know, 0:11:59.360 --> 0:12:04.240 the AFT the mainstream media, the New York Times just 0:12:04.559 --> 0:12:09.320 routinely put scare quotes around the crime. You know, they say, 0:12:09.320 --> 0:12:13.520 all these conservatives they're talking about crime, you know, little 0:12:13.520 --> 0:12:18.760 little air quotes being being ironizing the topic, as if 0:12:18.800 --> 0:12:22.400 this is all just a figment of the racist conservative imagination. 0:12:22.840 --> 0:12:26.760 When they dismiss this current crime increase, which is what 0:12:26.800 --> 0:12:30.440 they're doing. What they're saying is to us, black lives 0:12:30.480 --> 0:12:33.839 don't matter. We were not gonna we're not going to 0:12:34.000 --> 0:12:38.319 acknowledge that there's this massive homicide increase because we're we 0:12:38.440 --> 0:12:42.240 to do so, we'd have to acknowledge black on black crime. 0:12:42.559 --> 0:12:45.480 So they're basically saying, don't pay attention to it, it 0:12:45.559 --> 0:12:49.800 doesn't matter. Well, it does matter because there are thousands 0:12:49.880 --> 0:12:54.440 upon thousands of hard working, law abiding residents of inner 0:12:54.440 --> 0:12:58.880 city neighborhoods who deserve police protection, who are terrified to 0:12:58.920 --> 0:13:02.199 go out, especial stually the elderly, and we're turning our 0:13:02.240 --> 0:13:05.400 backs on them too. Well, that's also I mean, if 0:13:05.440 --> 0:13:07.960 you look at who the victims are, aren't they predominantly 0:13:08.080 --> 0:13:11.800 minorities and a lot of these cities, yes, absolutely, So 0:13:11.840 --> 0:13:13.880 it's like you think they would care about them, you know. 0:13:14.080 --> 0:13:16.920 That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying for for 0:13:16.920 --> 0:13:19.439 for the media, for the New York Times to to 0:13:19.559 --> 0:13:23.160 scoff at the idea that crime has gone up and 0:13:23.200 --> 0:13:25.720 to say, oh, this is just some sort of conservative 0:13:25.760 --> 0:13:31.480 talking point. They are essentially saying black victims don't matter, 0:13:32.000 --> 0:13:35.160 that we don't think there's a crime increase. To to 0:13:35.160 --> 0:13:39.720 to deny the crime increase means denying that thousands more 0:13:39.840 --> 0:13:44.320 blacks died in homicide were killed by homicide in two 0:13:44.320 --> 0:13:48.880 thousand and even more. You can't have it both ways. 0:13:49.080 --> 0:13:52.520 You can't say black lives matter and then say we're 0:13:52.520 --> 0:13:56.600 not going to be concerned about this crime increase. Click 0:13:56.640 --> 0:13:59.600 commercial break more with Heather McDonald. On the other side, 0:14:05.920 --> 0:14:09.160 how responsible is George Soros and getting some of these 0:14:09.240 --> 0:14:13.240 das elected for the increase in crime in America cities? Well, 0:14:13.280 --> 0:14:16.559 I think he's very responsible for getting these these progressive 0:14:16.640 --> 0:14:20.520 das elected who are saying they're not going to enforce 0:14:20.560 --> 0:14:23.600 a whole host of laws because those laws have a 0:14:23.640 --> 0:14:26.840 disparate impact on black Again, Lisa, I can't stress enough 0:14:27.240 --> 0:14:30.680 the the ruling principle in our world today is avoiding 0:14:30.680 --> 0:14:34.000 disparate impact. That's everything that you see that's going on 0:14:34.080 --> 0:14:36.680 in the criminal justice system today, it is driven by 0:14:36.760 --> 0:14:40.520 disparate impact. Soros has put these guys in, uh you know, 0:14:40.560 --> 0:14:43.200 they're saying, we're not gonna we're not gonna prosecute churnstyle 0:14:43.320 --> 0:14:46.320 jumping in the subway systems because that has a disperate 0:14:46.360 --> 0:14:50.360 impact on blacks. We're not gonna uh prosecute theft larceny 0:14:50.440 --> 0:14:53.000 because that has a disperate impact on blacks. They're even 0:14:53.080 --> 0:14:58.400 not prosecuting resisting arrest, which is the natire of civilization. 0:14:58.520 --> 0:15:02.000 If you're not going to punish people who disobey cops, 0:15:02.440 --> 0:15:05.800 then there is no more civilization. So that's a very 0:15:05.840 --> 0:15:09.480 big factor of the lack of prosecution so that there's 0:15:09.480 --> 0:15:15.080 no criminal consequences. But I would say responsibility also rests 0:15:15.360 --> 0:15:19.640 with Joe Biden and the rest of the democratic establishments. 0:15:19.720 --> 0:15:24.560 Biden is still harping on his racism and white supremacy 0:15:24.600 --> 0:15:29.200 defines this country. Theme Uh. He is. For maybe the 0:15:29.320 --> 0:15:31.720 less couple of months, he has not been as explicit 0:15:32.200 --> 0:15:37.080 about saying, uh criminal justice system is racist. But that's 0:15:37.120 --> 0:15:41.800 been a constant refrain, both as a candidate for president 0:15:42.560 --> 0:15:45.800 uh and and since the day he took office and 0:15:45.880 --> 0:15:49.360 ever since. He keeps bashing the cops as racist. And 0:15:49.360 --> 0:15:52.120 and when they hear that, if they're being told that 0:15:52.160 --> 0:15:56.080 they're racist for going into minority neighborhoods and making stops 0:15:56.160 --> 0:16:00.200 of of known gang bangers, not surprisingly cops are gonna 0:16:00.240 --> 0:16:02.960 do less of it because policing is political, and they're 0:16:03.000 --> 0:16:05.920 getting the political message that this is not what's wanted 0:16:05.920 --> 0:16:09.000 in society. So the cops have backed off, and that's 0:16:09.040 --> 0:16:13.120 allowed again the criminals become emboldened well. And also just 0:16:13.200 --> 0:16:15.880 not having enough police officers and a lot of these cities, right, 0:16:15.920 --> 0:16:18.360 I mean, I was reading in you know, Chicago, something 0:16:18.400 --> 0:16:21.640 like nine hundred officers had left the Chicago Police Department 0:16:21.680 --> 0:16:26.600 between January and October of one while only fifty one 0:16:26.800 --> 0:16:28.600 joy And and you know, I know we talked about 0:16:28.600 --> 0:16:31.400 this the last time You're on about this issue arising 0:16:31.440 --> 0:16:33.680 and so many of the city, So how big of 0:16:33.680 --> 0:16:36.320 an impact is that happening of police officers just being 0:16:36.360 --> 0:16:38.400 like to your point of after, you know, just getting 0:16:38.400 --> 0:16:40.440 beaten up so badly being like, you know what, I'm out, 0:16:40.760 --> 0:16:42.720 Like I don't need this. I'm gonna go into a 0:16:42.760 --> 0:16:45.760 different career field or move to a safer city, like 0:16:45.800 --> 0:16:49.400 I'm out. Oh, it's huge. Minneapolis is down a third 0:16:49.920 --> 0:16:53.840 since George Floyd Race riots. Um, and you know the 0:16:53.920 --> 0:16:58.480 burning down of the of the third precinct in Minneapolis. Uh, 0:16:58.520 --> 0:17:02.640 there is a total recruiting crisis in this country. You know, 0:17:02.720 --> 0:17:05.359 everybody's trying to poach everybody else. But I don't know 0:17:05.440 --> 0:17:10.399 a single police department that isn't facing the difficulty of 0:17:10.440 --> 0:17:14.680 trying to replace the officers who have took off and 0:17:14.680 --> 0:17:17.439 and they just can't do it. Uh. You know that 0:17:17.520 --> 0:17:20.239 you can offer larger salaries all you want, but if 0:17:20.280 --> 0:17:23.960 people are getting excrement thrown at them, Uh, you know, 0:17:24.000 --> 0:17:26.000 when they try and make an arrest or rocks and 0:17:26.040 --> 0:17:30.280 bottles and people cursing at them, that's not really a 0:17:30.359 --> 0:17:33.520 profession of choice that anybody would go into. Who has 0:17:33.560 --> 0:17:36.400 a choice. Well, and it looks like the left isn't 0:17:36.480 --> 0:17:38.560 slowing down with some of this stuff. I mean, the 0:17:38.560 --> 0:17:41.800 state of Illinois's has a law going into effect I 0:17:41.800 --> 0:17:45.080 believe in two thousand, twenty three January one two three, 0:17:45.800 --> 0:17:49.879 ending cash bail in the state. And it's ironically named 0:17:49.880 --> 0:17:53.119 the Safety Act, which is clearly not uh, and what 0:17:53.240 --> 0:17:55.600 it's being called is the Purge Act. You know, what 0:17:55.680 --> 0:17:58.280 kind of impact do you think that is going to 0:17:58.320 --> 0:18:02.240 have when Illinois specifically looking at you know, the Chicago 0:18:02.320 --> 0:18:08.160 area is already just with crime and murder. Yeah, well, Uh, 0:18:08.280 --> 0:18:13.720 the Illinois legislature is a real problem. Uh. It used 0:18:13.760 --> 0:18:16.600 to be Rama Manuel in his his police chief used 0:18:16.640 --> 0:18:20.320 to say, we need stronger gun laws here to prosecute 0:18:20.359 --> 0:18:24.200 illegal gun possession and use of guns in in crimes, 0:18:24.760 --> 0:18:29.439 and we need longer sentences. And the Illinois legislature in 0:18:29.480 --> 0:18:34.640 Springfield would inevitably block that in the name of disparate impact. 0:18:34.840 --> 0:18:39.800 Because if you prosecute gun criminals at a higher rate, 0:18:39.840 --> 0:18:43.040 you're going to have a disparate impact on blacks. Blacks 0:18:43.080 --> 0:18:47.400 in Chicago, or a little under third of the population, 0:18:47.480 --> 0:18:50.760 they commit about eighty percent of all murders and drive 0:18:50.840 --> 0:18:56.080 by shootings. If judges and prosecutors have no mechanism for 0:18:56.440 --> 0:19:01.119 holding people who have a very high, high likelihood of 0:19:01.240 --> 0:19:06.400 um committing another crime while awaiting trial that that does 0:19:06.520 --> 0:19:10.399 add to the criminal burden. Quick break more on the 0:19:10.440 --> 0:19:18.600 crime problem. At what point do people wake up politically? 0:19:18.640 --> 0:19:21.520 You know, you do look at this race between the 0:19:21.560 --> 0:19:26.399 Attorney to General Tis James against Republican challenger Michael Henry. 0:19:26.400 --> 0:19:29.040 I mean, he looks like he's potentially in the margin 0:19:29.080 --> 0:19:31.119 of error. I think it looks like or you know, 0:19:31.160 --> 0:19:34.480 you've got Lee Zelden running against Governor HOCl Yeah. At 0:19:34.520 --> 0:19:37.920 what point do people wake up politically and realize that 0:19:38.680 --> 0:19:40.800 they're just gonna keep getting this if they elect some 0:19:40.840 --> 0:19:45.439 of these liberals in these cities and givenatorial races. Lisa, 0:19:45.640 --> 0:19:48.720 I defer to you on that one. I am just astounded. 0:19:49.000 --> 0:19:53.840 I am utterly astounded that there continue to be races 0:19:53.880 --> 0:19:58.080 where the left winds. Whether it's in in Venice Beach, 0:19:58.160 --> 0:20:02.080 in in Los Angeles, or the failure of the recall 0:20:02.160 --> 0:20:06.480 of George Gascon, I do not know. And it seems 0:20:06.520 --> 0:20:11.639 to be that the left will just define deviance down 0:20:11.760 --> 0:20:16.480 and define its own tolerance down in order not to 0:20:17.440 --> 0:20:21.000 have to face the fact that their philosophy has been 0:20:21.040 --> 0:20:24.080 a total failure. And so they'll just say, well, okay, 0:20:24.520 --> 0:20:29.159 so there's another you know, twenty vagrants on my street 0:20:29.760 --> 0:20:33.320 shooting up drugs in front of my children. That's just 0:20:33.400 --> 0:20:35.760 what it is means to live in a city today. 0:20:36.760 --> 0:20:40.720 Heaven forbid. I say that the police actually should move 0:20:40.840 --> 0:20:44.320 people on, that they should not allow this, that the 0:20:44.840 --> 0:20:49.439 law abiding residents deserve to be the primary focus of 0:20:49.480 --> 0:20:54.000 public policy, not the deviant, not the anti social. And 0:20:54.080 --> 0:20:58.240 yet I see again and again, Uh, people still willing 0:20:58.240 --> 0:21:01.040 to put up with this. So we'll see. I mean, 0:21:01.680 --> 0:21:05.600 I frankly, I hate to jinx the racer or be negative, 0:21:05.720 --> 0:21:09.720 but in in Los Angeles, Rick Caruso should be a 0:21:09.880 --> 0:21:13.720 shoe in as mayor. He's a got an extraordinary record 0:21:13.880 --> 0:21:19.880 as a uh developer of of shopping malls. He's got 0:21:19.880 --> 0:21:25.240 an exquisite sense of taste and design. And yet uh, 0:21:25.280 --> 0:21:30.600 the career politician Karen Bass is out polling him there 0:21:30.880 --> 0:21:35.520 and and Los Angeles looks like hell at this point. 0:21:36.280 --> 0:21:40.359 If they don't, if if people continue to tolerate this, 0:21:40.920 --> 0:21:43.320 I I just I shake my head because you would 0:21:43.320 --> 0:21:47.840 think that at some point self interest takes over the 0:21:48.040 --> 0:21:52.359 preening sense that oh, I'm being so virtuous by allowing 0:21:52.440 --> 0:21:58.680 people to decompensate on the streets, and uh, rob everybody 0:21:58.680 --> 0:22:01.200 else blind one of you know, you've got John Fetterman 0:22:01.280 --> 0:22:04.560 running for SENNA in Pennsylvania who's previously called for mass 0:22:04.600 --> 0:22:09.359 release a prisoner, specifically one third of the statewide criminal population. 0:22:09.520 --> 0:22:11.840 So you know, it's it's it's sort of boggles the mind. 0:22:11.880 --> 0:22:14.280 But I think what's really sad to me is just 0:22:15.080 --> 0:22:17.119 I just don't understand how we got to a place 0:22:17.119 --> 0:22:19.800 where we're so desensitized to the loss of life. Like 0:22:19.840 --> 0:22:22.840 one of my really really good friends, Gianno Caldwell lost 0:22:22.840 --> 0:22:27.000 his little brother eighteen in Chicago. Look at over the 0:22:27.040 --> 0:22:28.920 week as his little brother was only eighteen years old. 0:22:28.960 --> 0:22:30.800 I mean, you look at even just over the weekend, 0:22:30.840 --> 0:22:34.480 there's forty people shot, seven killed in one week. It's like, 0:22:35.320 --> 0:22:39.000 how did we arrive as at a place in society 0:22:39.080 --> 0:22:43.399 where we're just so desensitized to the loss of human life. Well, Lisa, 0:22:43.600 --> 0:22:48.480 it's it's because the left actually is racist. The people 0:22:48.560 --> 0:22:53.040 that are being shot every weekend in Chicago, in Minneapolis 0:22:53.080 --> 0:22:58.639 and Baton Rouge in New Orleans are overwhelmingly black. You know, 0:22:58.760 --> 0:23:02.040 you it is spreading, It is spreading, and at some 0:23:02.119 --> 0:23:04.360 point black kids are gonna, i mean white kids rather 0:23:04.440 --> 0:23:10.320 going to start getting gunned down. But basically, uh, the 0:23:10.359 --> 0:23:15.280 politicians and democratic politicians turn their eyes away from this 0:23:15.440 --> 0:23:18.959 black on black slaughter. It is amazing. The only people 0:23:19.040 --> 0:23:24.640 talking about it are white conservatives. It's it's remarkable that's 0:23:24.680 --> 0:23:27.040 the only people talking about it. We're the ones that 0:23:27.040 --> 0:23:30.400 are supposed to be the white supremacists. No excuse me, 0:23:31.119 --> 0:23:35.119 you people who are who are pretending this is not happening. 0:23:35.880 --> 0:23:40.880 You are turning your backs on black victims. What steps 0:23:41.200 --> 0:23:44.800 should these cities take to reclaim their city? You know, 0:23:44.840 --> 0:23:47.760 what what steps should these leaders take to you know, 0:23:48.000 --> 0:23:50.680 rid their cities of this crime and this violent crime 0:23:50.720 --> 0:23:52.800 that we're saying, what do you think the most important 0:23:52.840 --> 0:23:55.920 steps would be the most important step is to say 0:23:55.920 --> 0:23:58.560 to the police, we expect you to go where the 0:23:58.640 --> 0:24:02.639 crime is. We expect you to use your your legitimate 0:24:02.680 --> 0:24:06.359 power in a constitutional matter, in a color blind manner. 0:24:06.640 --> 0:24:11.560 But if you generate disparate stop and arrest statistics, which 0:24:11.760 --> 0:24:15.160 you will, if you are fighting crime where it is happening, 0:24:15.480 --> 0:24:20.520 we will not come after you and accuse you of racism. 0:24:20.560 --> 0:24:26.000 We know that you cannot police it's constitutionally in this 0:24:26.119 --> 0:24:29.679 country without having a disparate impact on blacks. And that 0:24:29.880 --> 0:24:33.159 is because you're trying to save black lives. Officers have 0:24:33.320 --> 0:24:37.399 to believe that they're not going to be attacked. UH. 0:24:37.600 --> 0:24:40.760 We have to support them when they're forced to use 0:24:41.160 --> 0:24:45.280 uh lethal force because somebody is resisting arrest and and 0:24:45.320 --> 0:24:49.639 putting them in the fear of their lives. Uh And 0:24:49.640 --> 0:24:52.600 and so we know how to do this. This is 0:24:52.640 --> 0:24:56.080 how you fight crime. There's three things you do. You arrest, 0:24:56.520 --> 0:25:01.120 you prosecute, and you incarcerate. We are not doing any 0:25:01.200 --> 0:25:07.240 of them, and it's no surprise that crime is going up. UH. 0:25:07.400 --> 0:25:12.400