WEBVTT - LISTEN | GM Joe Douglas (4/20) 0:00:03.640 --> 0:00:07.440 Welcome to the Official Jets Podcast powered by Amazon Web Services. 0:00:07.440 --> 0:00:11.000 On today's episode, e A and Joe Douglas one on one, 0:00:11.080 --> 0:00:14.160 an exclusive interview with the Jets general manager leading up 0:00:14.360 --> 0:00:16.520 to the draft. Of course, the draft is Thursday. It 0:00:16.640 --> 0:00:19.439 is Monday, right about three o'clock to fifty seven to 0:00:19.520 --> 0:00:22.400 be exact. The sun is shining here. Ea, how you 0:00:22.400 --> 0:00:27.920 doing of Greg Green's Listen is draft week, so obviously, uh, 0:00:27.960 --> 0:00:30.760 the excitement is going to continue to build as we 0:00:31.280 --> 0:00:34.840 get to Thursday. But at the start of the week, listen, 0:00:34.840 --> 0:00:36.680 if you're a Jets fan, right now, this is what 0:00:36.760 --> 0:00:40.800 it's all about, organizational building, and Joe Douglas is first 0:00:40.880 --> 0:00:43.760 draft as general manager. We've been talking about it for months. 0:00:44.280 --> 0:00:48.040 Eight draft picks in all that number eleven overall selection 0:00:48.080 --> 0:00:51.440 and of course the four in the top eighty overall. 0:00:51.560 --> 0:00:55.480 But listen, this extend past the draft, Greens, because you're 0:00:55.520 --> 0:00:58.600 gonna be active on Saturday. As soon as that draft ends, 0:00:59.160 --> 0:01:01.000 Joe and his guys to be on the phone trying 0:01:01.000 --> 0:01:04.039 to get some priority undrafted free agents in green and White. 0:01:05.080 --> 0:01:09.760 I wonder how the virtual draft, and really the virtual 0:01:09.800 --> 0:01:13.119 pre draft process, how that will affect the undrafted free 0:01:13.120 --> 0:01:16.440 agent process, if there will be better talent compared to 0:01:16.520 --> 0:01:19.000 years past. I'm just curious how it all breakdown. But 0:01:19.080 --> 0:01:22.360 you spoke to Joe Douglas after Joe Douglass spoke to 0:01:22.360 --> 0:01:24.360 the media, and one of the things that Joe Douglas 0:01:24.400 --> 0:01:28.040 spoke to the media about was the status of Jamal 0:01:28.080 --> 0:01:30.520 Adams and the Jets. But last week Adam Schefter said 0:01:30.600 --> 0:01:34.000 Jamal Adams probably not going to participate in the virtual 0:01:34.000 --> 0:01:38.520 off season program, which Joe Douglas emphasized our voluntary. But 0:01:38.560 --> 0:01:40.920 then he also said that the plan is still for 0:01:41.000 --> 0:01:44.680 Jamal Adams to be a Jet for life. Yeah, you're right, Greens, 0:01:45.240 --> 0:01:48.200 if you really think about it. There was nothing new 0:01:48.560 --> 0:01:51.639 on the Jamal Adams Adams front from Joe Douglas today. 0:01:51.640 --> 0:01:54.720 He reiterated that his plan is to keep Jamal Adams 0:01:55.400 --> 0:01:58.440 a Jet for a long time. He did say that 0:01:58.560 --> 0:02:02.080 he hopes to connect with Adams after the draft, so 0:02:02.160 --> 0:02:05.600 we'll have to wait a little bit for any potential 0:02:05.640 --> 0:02:08.919 news on that front. I know you took this away 0:02:09.080 --> 0:02:11.480 as well. He said, my attent is not to move 0:02:11.600 --> 0:02:15.359 any players. But Joe Douglas has said it for months 0:02:15.400 --> 0:02:19.560 now that if a team calls, he will listen. Yeah. 0:02:19.639 --> 0:02:23.720 I think that's the essence of being a general manager. 0:02:24.040 --> 0:02:26.040 Somebody calls and wants to make a deal for one 0:02:26.040 --> 0:02:28.360 of your players, You pick up the phone, you listen, 0:02:28.680 --> 0:02:31.200 you evaluate, and you go from there. And it feels 0:02:31.200 --> 0:02:34.640 like a similar chain of events to what happened around 0:02:34.639 --> 0:02:37.640 the trade deadline in October. You think about Jomal Adams 0:02:37.800 --> 0:02:40.919 name was in the public then saying with Levy on Bell, 0:02:41.000 --> 0:02:43.720 but Joe Douglas made it clear that he wasn't shopping 0:02:43.760 --> 0:02:47.560 those guys. He was just listening to calls. In terms 0:02:47.600 --> 0:02:50.520 of the draft, some players will get dealt, not necessarily Jets, 0:02:50.520 --> 0:02:52.880 but across the league. You think about guys that are 0:02:52.880 --> 0:02:55.720 potentially on the trade block per se, or guys that 0:02:55.760 --> 0:02:59.280 haven't even been discussed, And I think that Joe Douglass 0:02:59.480 --> 0:03:02.839 point remain is the same. He's not looking to move 0:03:02.880 --> 0:03:05.280 any of these guys. And the other part of this 0:03:05.320 --> 0:03:08.560 whole thing to me is maybe he hasn't spoken to 0:03:08.639 --> 0:03:11.839 Jamal Adams since the last time that Joe Douglas spoke 0:03:11.880 --> 0:03:14.320 to the media. Well, this is draft season. Maybe it's 0:03:14.320 --> 0:03:17.320 put on the backburner per se until after the draft, 0:03:17.560 --> 0:03:20.400 when the draft is finally over. Because this is really 0:03:20.720 --> 0:03:26.160 such a long process from last mayor June to present 0:03:26.520 --> 0:03:29.000 that it doesn't feel like it's the right time to 0:03:29.040 --> 0:03:31.359 even try to go about that. There's a couple of 0:03:31.440 --> 0:03:34.920 points here that I'd like to stress. Number one is 0:03:34.960 --> 0:03:37.680 the off season program for the Jets, since they don't 0:03:37.760 --> 0:03:42.600 have a new coach, begins April, so the virtual off 0:03:42.640 --> 0:03:46.600 season program has not begun. That's my first point. The 0:03:46.680 --> 0:03:51.360 second one is Joe Douglas said if he believes he 0:03:51.440 --> 0:03:53.800 is a franchise quarterback, that is the one player on 0:03:53.880 --> 0:03:58.200 his roster that is off limits. He has talked about 0:03:58.480 --> 0:04:02.960 Sam Donald bean a franchise quarterback, so Sam Donald is 0:04:03.000 --> 0:04:06.960 off limits. Finally, to Green's, are we talking samantics here? 0:04:07.080 --> 0:04:10.880 I don't think we're talking samantics because to me, shopping 0:04:10.880 --> 0:04:14.480 a player means Joe Douglas getting on the phone after 0:04:14.480 --> 0:04:19.320 his conference call today and calling twenty teams and saying, Hey, 0:04:19.480 --> 0:04:22.440 I'm willing to part with this guy. What are you 0:04:22.480 --> 0:04:27.680 gonna give me? Listening to calls to me is taking 0:04:27.720 --> 0:04:30.800 a call from one of your peers who is a 0:04:30.839 --> 0:04:35.600 general manager in the National Football League and having a conversation, 0:04:35.960 --> 0:04:39.040 and if they bring up a player, of course you 0:04:39.200 --> 0:04:44.039 always assess the value because otherwise, to your point, you're 0:04:44.080 --> 0:04:47.760 not doing your job as a general manager. I totally 0:04:47.760 --> 0:04:50.760 agree with that. And Joe Douglas said to you that 0:04:50.800 --> 0:04:53.720 he learned a lot under Ozzy Knewsom, who, of course 0:04:53.720 --> 0:04:55.719 he believes should be a Hall of Fame general manager 0:04:55.760 --> 0:04:58.840 for the Baltimore Ravens before Erica Costa took over a 0:04:58.880 --> 0:05:01.599 couple of years ago. And we'll talk about it after 0:05:01.720 --> 0:05:05.440 your interview right now with Joe Douglas. What Joe learned 0:05:05.480 --> 0:05:10.600 from Ozzy Newsom. Here he is Joe Douglas one on one. Joe, 0:05:10.680 --> 0:05:13.080 thank you so much for joining us. What do you 0:05:13.120 --> 0:05:16.200 think about the opportunity at hand for you and this 0:05:16.320 --> 0:05:21.640 organization draft weekend? Oh, great opportunity. Eric eight picks four 0:05:21.640 --> 0:05:24.000 in the top seventy nine. It's a chance to really 0:05:24.000 --> 0:05:26.760 bring in guys that were excited about, guys that we 0:05:26.760 --> 0:05:29.480 we thinking come in here and make an impact. Fortify 0:05:29.600 --> 0:05:32.720 this roster really adds to it. We've had great meetings 0:05:32.720 --> 0:05:35.440 with our coaching staff over the last week. Are our 0:05:35.520 --> 0:05:38.720 coaching staff and scouts have done a great job collaborating 0:05:38.800 --> 0:05:42.800 navigating through the technology. I feel like our meetings is 0:05:42.800 --> 0:05:45.160 no different than having him in the facility at Flora Park, 0:05:45.279 --> 0:05:49.800 So really excited about this week. How much did the 0:05:49.800 --> 0:05:53.600 past ten or eleven months give you an advantage as 0:05:53.640 --> 0:05:55.960 you head to the draft because you were able to 0:05:56.600 --> 0:06:00.680 look at this roster from a thirty thousand foot forty 0:06:01.240 --> 0:06:05.680 foot level and see exactly what you have before you 0:06:05.720 --> 0:06:10.400 get your draft plan in place, no question, Eric being 0:06:10.440 --> 0:06:13.640 able to be here throughout training camp, throughout the season, 0:06:14.160 --> 0:06:18.240 really evaluating on a day to day basis, getting another staff, 0:06:18.720 --> 0:06:22.760 being around the scheme offense, defense, special teams, building rapport 0:06:22.839 --> 0:06:25.479 with players and staff, having a chance to get in 0:06:25.480 --> 0:06:27.560 the meetings with our own scouts and our own personnel 0:06:27.640 --> 0:06:31.200 guys and see how they evaluate, see how what lens 0:06:31.240 --> 0:06:34.320 they're looking through players, and it's really helped. I feel 0:06:34.320 --> 0:06:37.520 like it helped with our free agency process and it's 0:06:37.520 --> 0:06:41.280 gonna help us this week. Speaking of your free agency process, 0:06:41.800 --> 0:06:46.920 what are similarities and then talk about the differences as 0:06:46.960 --> 0:06:50.760 far as entering free agency compared to the draft when 0:06:50.800 --> 0:06:54.000 you're looking at players. Yeah, I think our our process 0:06:54.040 --> 0:06:56.719 is very similar far as how we go through setting 0:06:56.760 --> 0:06:58.560 up our free agent board versus how we go up 0:06:58.560 --> 0:07:01.839 to go through setting up our draft board. We still 0:07:01.880 --> 0:07:06.800 go through similar meetings, format, similar discussions with coaches, and 0:07:06.880 --> 0:07:11.600 so it's a good forum for personnel and scouts and 0:07:11.760 --> 0:07:15.320 coaches to get together and just discuss each player's individual 0:07:15.400 --> 0:07:19.400 fit for this roster, this team, the scheme. It really 0:07:19.440 --> 0:07:23.560 helps us develop a consensus after after going through the 0:07:23.640 --> 0:07:27.720 meetings and hashion outs disagreements. So take us behind the scenes. 0:07:27.920 --> 0:07:32.160 What is Joe d like in those meetings with your 0:07:32.160 --> 0:07:36.440 coaching staff and also obviously your personnel guys, but the 0:07:36.520 --> 0:07:40.119 prospects as well. You're a little bit in the weeds, 0:07:40.200 --> 0:07:42.760 running the run the meeting, making sure that the pace 0:07:42.840 --> 0:07:45.560 is good, that the format is good, the right questions 0:07:45.600 --> 0:07:48.800 are being asked, the right questions of being answered. But 0:07:48.920 --> 0:07:51.640 I think once we go through each coach of scouts 0:07:51.960 --> 0:07:56.120 individual opinion on the player, Okay, no holds barred. How 0:07:56.160 --> 0:07:58.080 does this guy? How does this guy help the New 0:07:58.160 --> 0:08:01.360 York Jets? Who is better than is their comp to 0:08:01.440 --> 0:08:04.640 this player in the National Football League? Talk about the makeup, 0:08:05.120 --> 0:08:07.320 how he's gonna fit in the building, not only amongst 0:08:07.360 --> 0:08:10.320 the coaches staff and personnel staff, but with everyone around 0:08:10.320 --> 0:08:13.360 the building. We try to come to as summation of 0:08:13.400 --> 0:08:16.640 what this person is going to bring. What are the 0:08:16.680 --> 0:08:20.520 final days and hours like, because you just said our 0:08:20.640 --> 0:08:27.080 draft board is not set until Thursday night. Yeah, we're 0:08:27.120 --> 0:08:30.239 going through players. We're having strategy meetings and making phone calls, 0:08:30.280 --> 0:08:35.440 were gathering information partilary eleventh hour on these players. And 0:08:35.480 --> 0:08:37.560 I think we have a great group. We have great 0:08:37.600 --> 0:08:41.240 contacts around college football that can help us. But with 0:08:41.280 --> 0:08:43.880 any questions that we need answered, you know, we've got 0:08:43.920 --> 0:08:46.840 a great group that can come together and determine who 0:08:46.880 --> 0:08:49.120 the best guys are going to be for us moving forward. 0:08:50.200 --> 0:08:52.800 He started a professional career, of course, with the Baltimore 0:08:52.920 --> 0:08:56.800 Ravens in two thousand. What did you take from the 0:08:56.840 --> 0:09:00.920 way as he knew some navigated throughout the draft process 0:09:01.000 --> 0:09:04.240 over the years, Ozzy was the calm and the storm, 0:09:04.280 --> 0:09:06.800 you know, in Ozzie's mind once today, it was in 0:09:06.880 --> 0:09:09.640 the bar. We went over every scenario, We talked about 0:09:09.679 --> 0:09:12.480 every player comparison that we could, and we did all 0:09:12.520 --> 0:09:15.800 that while things were calm and rational, and so even 0:09:15.840 --> 0:09:19.679 when there was perceived pressure or perceived things were heating up. 0:09:20.280 --> 0:09:22.840 You know, Ozzie was always always the calm in the 0:09:22.840 --> 0:09:25.160 middle of the storm, and he brought that, you know, 0:09:25.240 --> 0:09:28.160 every day and every year in the draft. That was 0:09:28.240 --> 0:09:31.720 always unique for me to see to see Ozzy operate. 0:09:32.000 --> 0:09:34.840 So I think for us, I think it's important that 0:09:34.880 --> 0:09:38.320 we that we discuss every every scenario, every everything that 0:09:38.360 --> 0:09:40.920 could come up, so that when things are getting hectic 0:09:41.000 --> 0:09:44.400 through Thursday, Friday, Saturday that Okay, we've discussed this, and 0:09:44.440 --> 0:09:47.320 this is a decision that we made when everything was calm, 0:09:47.600 --> 0:09:51.120 and we're going to stick to that decision. Obviously, Joe, 0:09:51.200 --> 0:09:54.319 I'm not gonna ask you about specifics here, but what's 0:09:54.320 --> 0:09:58.199 your trading philosophy, because speaking of Ozzy, he had quite 0:09:58.200 --> 0:10:01.360 a run there where the at first pick he was 0:10:01.400 --> 0:10:04.599 either moving up or moving back. I can't remember the 0:10:04.679 --> 0:10:09.280 number of years, but he was awfully active. Yeah. Look, 0:10:09.320 --> 0:10:12.000 I mean, if the right opportunity presents itself, we're gonna 0:10:12.000 --> 0:10:14.640 be as flexible as we need to the right opportunity 0:10:14.640 --> 0:10:17.200 presents itself. If a player starts to fall, we will 0:10:17.240 --> 0:10:20.480 be aggressive. If another team wants to reach out and 0:10:20.480 --> 0:10:22.520 and they want to be aggressive, we're gonna listen to that. 0:10:23.080 --> 0:10:25.280 So I think we have a lot of flexibility at 0:10:25.320 --> 0:10:28.960 eleven to help this team. Speaking of flexibility, but how 0:10:28.960 --> 0:10:31.960 about the four picks? Like you mentioned early on here 0:10:32.480 --> 0:10:35.559 in the top eighty overall, including two and a third round. 0:10:36.600 --> 0:10:40.800 Oh yeah, having picktight and then two early third round picks, 0:10:40.800 --> 0:10:43.080 I mean, there's there's gonna be a lot of meat 0:10:43.160 --> 0:10:45.000 in that draft left. I mean there's gonna be a 0:10:45.040 --> 0:10:48.040 lot of good players that are choose from I think 0:10:48.080 --> 0:10:51.000 those three picks, we really have an opportunity set up 0:10:51.080 --> 0:10:55.160 set ourselves up. How about the undrafted free agent process 0:10:55.200 --> 0:10:57.000 as well, because I know a lot of people think 0:10:57.120 --> 0:11:01.120 the draft unsay after Thursday or even that's seventh round 0:11:01.200 --> 0:11:04.080 on Saturday. But in terms of getting in there and 0:11:04.120 --> 0:11:08.480 getting some quality people after the draft is over, Day 0:11:08.559 --> 0:11:11.600 three is a great opportunity to really really make your 0:11:11.679 --> 0:11:14.760 draft from good to great. The great thing about Day 0:11:14.800 --> 0:11:19.640 three is that everyone around league circles, fans everyone, they 0:11:19.679 --> 0:11:22.440 know about these first and second round players. They've been 0:11:22.480 --> 0:11:26.680 discussed on NFL Network, ESPN, they know, they know about them. 0:11:26.800 --> 0:11:29.839 Only the scouts know about about the Day three guys. 0:11:30.440 --> 0:11:33.600 So you're talking about the late round free agent guys, 0:11:34.040 --> 0:11:36.200 and there's a lot of good players that make your 0:11:36.240 --> 0:11:38.959 team better in that group. So we spend a lot 0:11:38.960 --> 0:11:41.920 of time going over those guys, making sure that we 0:11:42.000 --> 0:11:45.800 have the right sequence, making sure we've targeted the right 0:11:45.800 --> 0:11:48.360 guys for us, and we have good we have a 0:11:48.400 --> 0:11:51.480 really good post draft free agency protocol that we're gonna follow. 0:11:51.920 --> 0:11:54.920 Undraft of free agency is just a great opportunity to 0:11:55.040 --> 0:11:58.800 really take your take your draft from good to great. Joe, 0:11:58.920 --> 0:12:01.800 would you say you guys go into this weekend with 0:12:01.880 --> 0:12:05.319 a quiet confidence knowing that you put in the work, 0:12:05.640 --> 0:12:08.720 You had healthy discussions, you had guys on the ground 0:12:08.760 --> 0:12:13.680 throughout the year filing thorough reports, and now you have 0:12:13.880 --> 0:12:17.400 the ammal to really help this organization take a step forward. 0:12:18.880 --> 0:12:21.400 You want to make sure that you've dotted every eye, 0:12:21.440 --> 0:12:23.920 you've crossed every team in terms of the detail of 0:12:24.320 --> 0:12:27.320 each player. So right now we're going through that. I 0:12:27.360 --> 0:12:30.120 feel confident in the work that our scouts and our 0:12:30.160 --> 0:12:34.480 coaches have done on these players. And now with the 0:12:34.480 --> 0:12:37.000 meetings that we've had, with the discussions that we've had, 0:12:37.520 --> 0:12:40.400 we formulate the game plan based off that, based off 0:12:40.440 --> 0:12:43.440 these great weekend meetings that we've had. You execute it. 0:12:43.520 --> 0:12:47.400 You execute the plan. I feel good about our protocols 0:12:47.400 --> 0:12:51.520 are format to get that done. How much of a 0:12:51.600 --> 0:12:54.280 weight do you put into character? I know we talked 0:12:54.280 --> 0:12:57.720 about talent all the time. But you've been very specific 0:12:57.840 --> 0:13:01.120 in what you're looking for in terms of a guy 0:13:01.640 --> 0:13:05.800 what he brings on the field, but also inside the 0:13:05.880 --> 0:13:08.800 room and potentially in the community as well. Yeah, that's 0:13:08.800 --> 0:13:10.920 a big thing. That's a big thing for us because 0:13:11.640 --> 0:13:14.800 guys have to love football. Talked about that almost every 0:13:14.800 --> 0:13:18.520 time we've we've gotten together, Eric, and football character is important. 0:13:18.559 --> 0:13:21.440 Personal character is important. How you treat people. You know 0:13:21.480 --> 0:13:24.400 what kind of teammate you are. And we talk about abilities, 0:13:24.960 --> 0:13:28.560 and we're talking about coach ability, reliability. Those are some 0:13:28.640 --> 0:13:31.320 of the best abilities that a player can have. Those 0:13:31.360 --> 0:13:33.640 are all the things that we discuss and and uh, 0:13:33.760 --> 0:13:36.640 it carries a lot of weight. And lastly, I gotta 0:13:36.679 --> 0:13:39.720 imagine this is not the way you envisioned your first 0:13:39.840 --> 0:13:45.920 draft as Jets the general manager. But with all that 0:13:46.080 --> 0:13:51.920 being said, as the world combats an invisible enemy and 0:13:51.960 --> 0:13:58.080 COVID nineteen and everything going on around you, what do 0:13:58.120 --> 0:14:01.559 you think it's going to be like for you? Are 0:14:01.600 --> 0:14:04.320 you gonna have a chance to say, take a step 0:14:04.320 --> 0:14:07.720 back and say, you know, this is it, this is 0:14:07.960 --> 0:14:10.480 my time, this is what we've worked for together as 0:14:10.520 --> 0:14:13.120 an organization. But you've been in this league since two 0:14:13.120 --> 0:14:16.199 thousand what do you think that first night in two 0:14:16.280 --> 0:14:20.760 thousand twenty that draft is gonna mean to you. Yeah, 0:14:21.960 --> 0:14:24.040 you haven't been in the weeds for the last few 0:14:24.040 --> 0:14:26.720 weeks with free agency and draft. I've just tried to 0:14:26.760 --> 0:14:29.600 stay in the moment and not thinking about anything outside 0:14:29.640 --> 0:14:32.800 of the team in the organization. It's a unique experience. 0:14:32.880 --> 0:14:35.800 Is pretty cool. This is personally, this is what you've 0:14:35.800 --> 0:14:38.000 worked so hard to do to get to this point, 0:14:38.080 --> 0:14:40.880 to try to help an organization and reach its ultimate goal. 0:14:41.400 --> 0:14:43.360 Knowing that we've got guys that have been in the 0:14:43.360 --> 0:14:46.240 trench trenches for the last few months and since August, 0:14:46.280 --> 0:14:48.760 and it makes you feel good and excited about the 0:14:48.800 --> 0:14:51.120 opportunity that we're gonna have starting on Thursday to really 0:14:51.120 --> 0:14:53.920 help this organization. Thanks Joe, We'll be talking to you 0:14:53.960 --> 0:14:58.600 throughout the week. Okay, Thanks man. Yeah, I thought Joe 0:14:58.680 --> 0:15:01.280 was great, and you spoke to earlier in this pre 0:15:01.480 --> 0:15:04.560 draft process, more so talking about free agency, and I 0:15:04.560 --> 0:15:06.320 thought he was great. Then I thought he was great 0:15:06.320 --> 0:15:08.760 in this interview here and going back to what he 0:15:08.840 --> 0:15:13.960 learned under Ozzy Knewsom, the calm in the storm and 0:15:14.480 --> 0:15:19.040 really focusing on the preparation when everything is calm, so 0:15:19.080 --> 0:15:21.040 that if things start to get a little bit hectic 0:15:21.520 --> 0:15:24.920 in the draft, you stick to your guns. You stick 0:15:24.960 --> 0:15:27.240 to what you know, what you believe in, and that's 0:15:27.240 --> 0:15:30.440 how you execute a drafts. I think the man is 0:15:30.520 --> 0:15:33.600 just so steady, and what you see is what you 0:15:33.680 --> 0:15:37.200 get from Joe. The person that you just heard during 0:15:37.240 --> 0:15:39.920 that interview or on the conference call with the media, 0:15:40.520 --> 0:15:44.400 that's the guy you're getting behind the scenes. Uh. He 0:15:44.720 --> 0:15:51.160 is a measured person, very confident in his abilities, but 0:15:51.400 --> 0:15:55.920 also willing to listen to everybody on his staff, and 0:15:55.960 --> 0:15:59.640 he's confident in this group. So when this weekend gets 0:15:59.720 --> 0:16:04.640 under way, the first virtual draft in NFL history, I 0:16:04.640 --> 0:16:09.280 don't want to anticipate Joe Douglas his heartbeat to jump 0:16:09.320 --> 0:16:13.280 at all. I think Joe's ready for this. He has. 0:16:14.400 --> 0:16:18.120 His NFL career has brought him to this point. So 0:16:18.720 --> 0:16:21.360 I think you're gonna see a lot of Ozzy Newsome 0:16:21.680 --> 0:16:25.640 in him this weekend and in the weekends. Uh down 0:16:25.680 --> 0:16:28.000 the line, because I think he's gonna be leading this 0:16:28.080 --> 0:16:31.040 team for a lot of drafts, hopefully the one and 0:16:31.120 --> 0:16:34.800 only virtual draft. Because although this is very unique, I 0:16:34.800 --> 0:16:36.440 I like it a lot more when it's in person. 0:16:36.520 --> 0:16:39.040 I'm sure Joe Douglas would enjoy that a little bit 0:16:39.080 --> 0:16:42.000 more than being at home in his at home office. 0:16:42.320 --> 0:16:44.479 Which by the way, I know this is a podcast, 0:16:44.520 --> 0:16:46.600 but in the interview, your one on one interview you, 0:16:46.640 --> 0:16:49.360 which you can watch on New York Jets dot com. 0:16:49.400 --> 0:16:52.800 I love the Joe Namith photo right behind Joe Douglas, 0:16:52.880 --> 0:16:54.840 right over his head. Got to give them man props 0:16:54.880 --> 0:16:59.640 for that. I'm wondering if Steve Piazza, director i T, 0:17:00.000 --> 0:17:05.240 who works with Tommy Murphy Murph of course Long Island native, 0:17:05.280 --> 0:17:08.280 who heads up the whole i T group. I wonder 0:17:08.280 --> 0:17:11.840 if Piazza brought that over to him, you know, this week, 0:17:12.119 --> 0:17:16.720 or maybe just maybe Joe has had that one around 0:17:17.119 --> 0:17:21.280 for some time. But yeah, iconic photograph of Joe Namath. 0:17:21.359 --> 0:17:23.879 And by the way, when I went back and looked 0:17:23.880 --> 0:17:26.920 at that greens, I think that's one of the photos 0:17:26.960 --> 0:17:30.080 I scanned back in the old archives that we but 0:17:30.200 --> 0:17:34.560 you bank call in Hempstead. I swear I swear on 0:17:34.680 --> 0:17:38.480 that because the old images greens, they weren't on slides 0:17:38.560 --> 0:17:41.280 and there was no such thing as digital obviously, they 0:17:41.280 --> 0:17:44.720 were all prints. So for us to keep those images, 0:17:44.760 --> 0:17:47.879 we actually had to scan them that's one of the 0:17:47.920 --> 0:17:51.920 images I scanned. So there you go. He a is 0:17:51.920 --> 0:17:54.399 a part of Joe Douglas is at home office. And 0:17:54.480 --> 0:17:58.200 something that Joe talked about also in the conference call 0:17:58.920 --> 0:18:02.920 was about free agency but after the draft. We've talked 0:18:02.920 --> 0:18:06.080 about the different waves of free agency before and the 0:18:06.080 --> 0:18:08.040 first couple of days is the first wave, then a 0:18:08.080 --> 0:18:10.480 couple of weeks after that is the second wave. Well, 0:18:10.520 --> 0:18:14.080 after the draft, it almost seems like there's an injection 0:18:14.160 --> 0:18:16.920 of life into free agency, and Joe Douglas said that 0:18:16.960 --> 0:18:20.000 he anticipates that it will happen a little sooner after 0:18:20.040 --> 0:18:22.359 the draft than in years past. And there are some 0:18:22.520 --> 0:18:25.160 good players still left on the market. So depending on 0:18:25.440 --> 0:18:28.960 let's say who and what positions the Jets attack in 0:18:29.000 --> 0:18:32.199 the draft, they could still add a valuable piece in 0:18:32.320 --> 0:18:35.360 free agency afterwards. Yeah, you're right about that, and that 0:18:35.560 --> 0:18:38.920 was very interesting and that's something we can touch upon 0:18:39.040 --> 0:18:44.560 with Joe further this coming draft weekend. But the market 0:18:44.680 --> 0:18:46.639 was different this year Green's I think a lot of 0:18:46.640 --> 0:18:50.040 players thought the market might be different early. So when 0:18:50.080 --> 0:18:53.680 we talk about tears and free agency, I mean, what 0:18:53.760 --> 0:18:57.560 we're actually going to witness probably is a new tier 0:18:57.840 --> 0:19:02.800 post draft. Uh, the Jet do have money under the cap, 0:19:02.920 --> 0:19:04.840 so they do have some flexibility if they want to 0:19:04.880 --> 0:19:07.560 make some moves. And there are some veterans out there 0:19:08.000 --> 0:19:12.600 who have had productive careers who still can give you 0:19:12.880 --> 0:19:16.280 some value on the field in looking for new homes. 0:19:17.000 --> 0:19:18.720 Some of these guys that are still on the market, 0:19:18.720 --> 0:19:21.880 the Headliners Jadeveon Clowney, you and I have talked about 0:19:21.960 --> 0:19:26.000 Jason Peters in the past, Vinny Curry, Logan Ryan. I mean, 0:19:26.000 --> 0:19:28.320 those are just some guys that stand out to me 0:19:28.400 --> 0:19:31.880 without looking at a list. But I think that Joe 0:19:31.920 --> 0:19:35.119 Douglas has a plan not only for the draft, not 0:19:35.280 --> 0:19:37.960 only for who's on the board at pick eleven. Maybe 0:19:37.960 --> 0:19:41.560 trade up, trade back scenarios round one through seven. But 0:19:41.960 --> 0:19:44.720 when you think about where the Jets are right now, 0:19:45.240 --> 0:19:49.080 and you think about the potential impact of a draft 0:19:49.160 --> 0:19:51.720 that has four picks in the top seventy nine and 0:19:51.960 --> 0:19:55.280 eight overall e a one team. One scenario that I've 0:19:55.320 --> 0:19:58.320 come back to multiple times is the Saints in two 0:19:58.320 --> 0:20:02.119 thousand seventeen, coming office seven and nine season, they held 0:20:02.160 --> 0:20:05.240 the number eleven overall pick. It sounds a little familiar 0:20:05.359 --> 0:20:09.400 right now. Well, in that draft d A at eleven, 0:20:09.440 --> 0:20:12.800 they selected Marshawn Lattimore, the cornerback out of Ohio State. 0:20:13.160 --> 0:20:16.920 Then at thirty one they selected Ryan Ramcheck the tackle, 0:20:17.359 --> 0:20:20.240 and then you go further and further. They got Alvin 0:20:20.280 --> 0:20:23.440 Kamara in the third round. They got Marcus Williams the 0:20:23.520 --> 0:20:26.840 safety in the second round, and then they got a 0:20:26.920 --> 0:20:31.000 contributor and Trey Hendrickson and alex anzelone. When I look 0:20:31.040 --> 0:20:34.159 at that draft, you think about that's probably one of 0:20:34.200 --> 0:20:37.560 the anomalies where the Saints really nailed almost all of 0:20:37.600 --> 0:20:40.400 their draft picks. I'm not saying Joe Douglas will do that, 0:20:40.560 --> 0:20:43.919 but he has an opportunity to add a number of 0:20:44.200 --> 0:20:47.159 Day one contributors, if not starters if you hit on 0:20:47.240 --> 0:20:50.000 these guys not only in rounds one and two, but 0:20:50.119 --> 0:20:52.440 really three through seven, and of course, like we've talked 0:20:52.440 --> 0:20:57.320 about before, the undrafted guys. Yeah, especially in this draft. 0:20:57.760 --> 0:20:59.680 I was talking to Bob with Shusan about this the 0:20:59.720 --> 0:21:02.280 other day, the Voice of the Jets. He said he 0:21:02.280 --> 0:21:06.199 wouldn't be surprised if the Jets took the three or 0:21:06.480 --> 0:21:13.400 four offensive players in those first over those first four picks. 0:21:14.080 --> 0:21:17.400 Uh ending up with that ladder pick in the third round. 0:21:17.840 --> 0:21:21.240 You know, so I know free Uh months now, people 0:21:21.280 --> 0:21:24.480 have pegged either tackle or receiver to the Jets at eleven. 0:21:24.520 --> 0:21:26.280 If they stay there, well, we'll have to see how 0:21:26.280 --> 0:21:30.000 that all plays out, no doubt about that. But Uh, 0:21:30.160 --> 0:21:33.159 the wide receiver class, we've talked about its depth, we 0:21:33.240 --> 0:21:37.560 talked about its talent and how far it extends. There 0:21:37.600 --> 0:21:40.520 are some tackle prospects that I think people probably shouldn't 0:21:40.560 --> 0:21:44.119 be sleeping on either. UM. So, I think this is 0:21:44.119 --> 0:21:47.560 a good draft for the Jets going in because a 0:21:47.560 --> 0:21:51.840 lot of their perceived needs on paper greens. I think 0:21:52.160 --> 0:21:57.280 there are good classes in those groups, specifically offensively wide 0:21:57.280 --> 0:22:00.800 receiver and tackle. When we're talking about happen our arms 0:22:00.880 --> 0:22:03.439 around Sam Donald, that's what the Jets are trying to 0:22:03.480 --> 0:22:05.960 do here. And then on the defensive side of the ball, 0:22:06.560 --> 0:22:09.560 I do think it's an interesting edge class. I want 0:22:09.560 --> 0:22:13.400 to know where is the drop off for the cornerbacks 0:22:13.640 --> 0:22:18.040 boundary cornerbacks. I talked to um Jim Naggy, the executive 0:22:18.080 --> 0:22:19.680 director of the Senior Bowls the other day. He said 0:22:19.680 --> 0:22:23.479 he really liked slot cornerbacks, and no doubt about it, 0:22:23.600 --> 0:22:26.120 those nickels are very important in the National Football League, 0:22:26.119 --> 0:22:28.320 but the Jets more so at the need on the 0:22:28.359 --> 0:22:31.320 outside right now. I think that's a great point that 0:22:31.680 --> 0:22:35.760 the way the draft is shaping up right now fits 0:22:35.760 --> 0:22:39.520 what the Jets perceivably need on their roster heading into it. 0:22:39.520 --> 0:22:41.600 And we'll all see what happens on Thursday night, just 0:22:41.640 --> 0:22:44.720 a couple of days away. And on tomorrow's podcast, e 0:22:44.840 --> 0:22:48.359 A myself Anthony Becks, we're going through a mock draft 0:22:48.400 --> 0:22:51.000 over the next two podcasts, and then on Thursday, the 0:22:51.040 --> 0:22:53.800 whole thing comes together. And that was another edition of 0:22:53.880 --> 0:22:57.920