1 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:06,240 Speaker 1: And now Move the Sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. 2 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:09,639 Speaker 1: What's up, everybody? Welcome to Move the Sticks, presented by 3 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:13,800 Speaker 1: Castro Ledge, DJ, Bucky back with You and Buck. Our 4 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:16,799 Speaker 1: pal Andrew Ciciliana, who listens to the Potter every time, 5 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:20,639 Speaker 1: said that he likes the comforting uh fact that every 6 00:00:20,640 --> 00:00:24,400 Speaker 1: single podcast begins with me seeing how you doing? Buck? 7 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 1: So I'll comfort Andrew with that, man. I'm I'm great. DJ. 8 00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:31,600 Speaker 1: Like I think coming off that whirlwind weekend where we 9 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:35,919 Speaker 1: had the big trade uh involving Jerry Golf and Matthew Stafford, 10 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:38,000 Speaker 1: I mean, I think it forces you to reset and 11 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:41,080 Speaker 1: rethink and kind of figure out what you believe in 12 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 1: from a philosophical standpoint in team building and quarterbacks and 13 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:47,760 Speaker 1: how quarterbacks back into that evaluation. So now I'm good. 14 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:50,559 Speaker 1: My brain is about the pop thinking about all the 15 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:52,680 Speaker 1: scenarios that could take place, and I think it's great 16 00:00:52,680 --> 00:00:55,160 Speaker 1: because the day we're gonna talk about the scenarios as 17 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:57,960 Speaker 1: it relates to the quarterback puisition and the movement that 18 00:00:58,080 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 1: we could see this offseason. So I'm excited. Chet. Yeah, 19 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:03,639 Speaker 1: what we're gonna do on today's show, um is we're 20 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:05,440 Speaker 1: gonna actually kind of build this show off of a 21 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:08,600 Speaker 1: theme here about these quarterbacks and potential movement in the 22 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 1: off season, and it really stems from a tweet from 23 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:13,280 Speaker 1: Adam Schefter a while back where he tweeted out that 24 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:15,640 Speaker 1: he put the over under it eight teen in terms 25 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:18,840 Speaker 1: of quarterbacks changing teams this offseason, which is a massive 26 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 1: amount of of guys. And then he listed listed them, 27 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:25,400 Speaker 1: listed all these quarterbacks down. So we're gonna go through 28 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:28,480 Speaker 1: quarterback by quarterback and say where we think this all 29 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:31,120 Speaker 1: ends up with them as we as we get to 30 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:34,760 Speaker 1: this crazy offseason we're about to enter here. But before 31 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 1: we get into those other guys, the two of the 32 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 1: guys on the list were Stafford and Golf, And we 33 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:40,960 Speaker 1: talked a little bit about this the other day on 34 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:42,440 Speaker 1: the pod, but I want to I want to dig 35 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:44,039 Speaker 1: a little bit deeper on that, but because I think 36 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:45,560 Speaker 1: there's some other stuff we didn't get a chance to 37 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 1: flesh out there. Um, just your full your philosophy. You've 38 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 1: talked about this, gosh, I would say, going back maybe 39 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 1: three years, three or four years, you've brought up the 40 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 1: college model, right, So why why don't you explain that 41 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:00,080 Speaker 1: for folks that haven't heard it. Yeah, So one of 42 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 1: things I wondered about, uh, in team building, it has 43 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:03,960 Speaker 1: been proven that the teams that are going to the 44 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:06,560 Speaker 1: super Bowl for the most part, are teams that have 45 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 1: a quarterback playing on a Ricky deal. Because when you 46 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 1: have a quarterback playing on a Ricky deal, really, from 47 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:15,360 Speaker 1: an economical standpoint, it enables you to go out and 48 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 1: really supply or support them with star talent everywhere on 49 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 1: on at the offensive line, at wide receiver, on defense, 50 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 1: you can commit more dollars and resources to having a 51 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 1: high level team around them. And so I just wonder 52 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 1: who is going to be the bold team builder that 53 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 1: says we're gonna adopt a collegiate model where in recruiting 54 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:39,360 Speaker 1: you see these teams like Clemson where they move on 55 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:44,000 Speaker 1: from Trevor Trevor Lawrence and they have dj Ukulele coming 56 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:46,280 Speaker 1: in to report him another five star player, and then 57 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 1: after him, they'll have another five star and the machine 58 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:52,520 Speaker 1: keeps going. Who is going to be the NFL team 59 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:55,680 Speaker 1: that is willing to a we draft a quarterback early. 60 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 1: He plays really well within our system, but he's not 61 00:02:58,320 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 1: a Patrick Mahomes type, so we're going to put and 62 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 1: find another one because if you do that, what it 63 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 1: does guarantee is you have an opportunity to keep a 64 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:11,520 Speaker 1: stable team around that quarterback and you're just dropping him 65 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:14,760 Speaker 1: in and he is the disposable piece of the dispensable 66 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:17,080 Speaker 1: piece that you can use while you keep the other 67 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 1: stuff around the quarterback stable and prosperous because you always 68 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 1: have tremendous talent. So this is I saw some people 69 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 1: push back with you on this, So I want to 70 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:29,680 Speaker 1: kind of clear it up a little bit um because 71 00:03:29,720 --> 00:03:31,760 Speaker 1: I I'm with you on that. If you if you 72 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:34,240 Speaker 1: don't have one of those guys, right, I think we 73 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 1: need to define kind of what one of those guys are. 74 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 1: We've talked about trucks and trailers before, right, and I 75 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 1: think to me, this is this is the important side 76 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 1: of it. Now, if you have Aaron Rodgers and you 77 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:46,640 Speaker 1: have Patrick Mahomes. We're not saying you need to go 78 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 1: back into the quarterback market and move on like all 79 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:50,840 Speaker 1: you know. We're saying the Packers should stay with Jordan's love. 80 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 1: Let Aaron Rodgers, you know, walk out the building, and 81 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:56,480 Speaker 1: then you've got a cheaper quarterback. Therefore you can build 82 00:03:56,480 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 1: a better team. No, but we what we're trying to say, 83 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 1: is that if there's a gray area, which I think 84 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 1: with with Golf and Wentz, maybe there was a little 85 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 1: bit of a gray area there Buck where it was like, Okay, 86 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 1: we think, you know, maybe one more so than the other, 87 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 1: but we think they're they're kind of one of those 88 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 1: top guys. If there's gray area, then that's where we're 89 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:16,599 Speaker 1: saying it makes sense to maybe try and cycle this 90 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 1: process through. But if you have, I'm gonna go through 91 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 1: the list here like where we are right now. Um gosh, 92 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:25,800 Speaker 1: I think you know. Let me ask you this one, 93 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 1: Josh Allen when his contracts come and do I think 94 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:31,400 Speaker 1: you have to pay because I think he's proven to 95 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:33,359 Speaker 1: be a trump I agree with you. I think that 96 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 1: offense runs through him. I don't think he's a complimentary piece. 97 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 1: I think he's the lead actor in that one. So 98 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 1: you go there. Um, I don't think you have another 99 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 1: one in that division that you would say I feel 100 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:48,640 Speaker 1: kind about. Um. So here's here's one. The Ravens have 101 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:51,120 Speaker 1: a big decision coming up on Lamar Jackson. Well, I 102 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:53,320 Speaker 1: think he is their entire offense. I think I think 103 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 1: he is. Do you pay him as a but do 104 00:04:55,839 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 1: you pay him as that as that you know, forty 105 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 1: million dollar guy. I think I think Lamar Jackson's contract 106 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 1: is probably the most fascinating to watch because what you 107 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:07,800 Speaker 1: have on the surface as a guy who was one 108 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 1: a ton of games. He's been a League MVP, he's 109 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:12,919 Speaker 1: gotten to the playoffs, He's done a lot of the 110 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:15,160 Speaker 1: right stuff. So I think you have to pay him 111 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:16,800 Speaker 1: to that level. But I think it has to be 112 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 1: a short term deal. I don't think you can lock 113 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:20,160 Speaker 1: him up to one of those five or six year 114 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 1: deals or whatever. I think if I could, I would 115 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:26,040 Speaker 1: try and keep it to three years and see how 116 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:28,680 Speaker 1: long I could ride that out, or a longer deal 117 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:31,040 Speaker 1: where we have to have that conversation three years from 118 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:34,839 Speaker 1: now that we extended can be announced as a six 119 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 1: year three years out. Yes, I think you have to 120 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 1: do it, just because his style is so unique and different. Um, 121 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 1: but I want to reward him for what he's been 122 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:46,400 Speaker 1: able to accomplish. So I'm just kind of looking at 123 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 1: some of the quarterbacks from that era where the decisions 124 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:50,520 Speaker 1: are upcoming. So the other one that's fascinating to me, 125 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:52,120 Speaker 1: and he's seen a little bit of chatter about this. 126 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:54,239 Speaker 1: He gets a little sensitive about it too. Is Baker, 127 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 1: I think, But I think Baker is a trailer and 128 00:05:56,640 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 1: so I think I would only gets wherever the number 129 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 1: gets is going to determine that, Yeah, because I would 130 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:06,520 Speaker 1: hold firm them that number. And it's hard, DJ, I mean, 131 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:10,880 Speaker 1: can I make the number twenty five? Like like like 132 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:13,480 Speaker 1: can I make it? You're gonna want more than that? 133 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:16,160 Speaker 1: And in his favorite is he's gonna say, you know what, 134 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:19,560 Speaker 1: you might think I'm a B a B level quarterback. 135 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 1: Maybe you think I'm a B minus level quarterback. Look 136 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:25,240 Speaker 1: at that jersey with all those names of all those 137 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:27,719 Speaker 1: quarterbacks the Browns have cycled through. I've gotten you to 138 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:30,040 Speaker 1: the playoffs. And now you say I might not be 139 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 1: the I might not be the truck. I might be 140 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 1: the trailer along for the ride. But nonetheless we got 141 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 1: in the playoffs, and then you want to go through 142 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 1: this cycle all over again, trying to find somebody within 143 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:43,160 Speaker 1: within my pushback, who are we bidding against? Because Baker, 144 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:44,880 Speaker 1: where are you going? And who is going to pay 145 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:47,920 Speaker 1: you more than we pay? Who who values you that's 146 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 1: more than us? So like that's that's the thing. I 147 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 1: was like, Okay, well, I mean, if you want to 148 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:54,120 Speaker 1: go out there and see what's out there. You may 149 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:55,960 Speaker 1: go out there and find that the number that we 150 00:06:56,040 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 1: have exceeds what you get on the open market. I 151 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:01,280 Speaker 1: think that's at conversation because I don't think he has 152 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:04,160 Speaker 1: played at a truck level where you can just back 153 00:07:04,200 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 1: up the Brinks truck and say, hey, back, you can 154 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 1: have whatever you want. M hm, yeah, no, that's but 155 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 1: to me, that's that gets back to an interesting conversation 156 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:14,120 Speaker 1: with this whole trade and with the Jared Golf thing. 157 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:16,920 Speaker 1: And in hindsight, you know, should they similar? They did? 158 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 1: That was a conversation we're having back then. It's a 159 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:22,240 Speaker 1: similar It's a similar conversation. And I would say this 160 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 1: because the Jerry Golf conversation to me is the Matt 161 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:29,760 Speaker 1: Ryan conversation, right, Like, I see Jerry Golf and Matt 162 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:32,960 Speaker 1: Ryan very very similar. When Matt Ryan has been surrounded 163 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 1: by like the A level players and he's had the 164 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 1: right play caller, he has played at a high level, 165 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:41,200 Speaker 1: but when it hasn't been right at all, he can't 166 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 1: overcome that on the strength of his own game. And 167 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:46,000 Speaker 1: so I think Jared and a lot of quarterbacks fall 168 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:49,520 Speaker 1: into that conversation, you know, I mean I would say 169 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:52,920 Speaker 1: Matt I would put match just a more accomplished player. 170 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:54,600 Speaker 1: Though I know they've both been to a Super Bowl, 171 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 1: they both lost the Super Bowl. I think Matt Ryan, 172 00:07:56,800 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 1: consistency wise, has been has put a long track record 173 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:03,600 Speaker 1: together of beings that might be consistent B plus A 174 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:06,240 Speaker 1: minus football, but it's been consistent there where I think 175 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 1: that a little more of up and down a little bit. 176 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:11,360 Speaker 1: I see them as I saw them as similar players 177 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:13,280 Speaker 1: when they were coming out, Like in my in my 178 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 1: nose when I wrote the report, I said, he reminds 179 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 1: me of Matt Ryan. Like whatever you think of Matt Ryan, 180 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:21,240 Speaker 1: I think Jared is very, very accomfortable in terms of that, 181 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:23,040 Speaker 1: and so I kind of think his dad like if 182 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:24,960 Speaker 1: the team around him is good, he's gonna flourish. If 183 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:27,000 Speaker 1: the team around him is bad, like, he's not going 184 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:29,120 Speaker 1: to help you overcome that. And I think there are 185 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 1: a lot of quarterbacks have fallen deck and in reality, 186 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:34,960 Speaker 1: DJ when we count them up, I'm curious to see 187 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:37,280 Speaker 1: there may be five to seven trucks in the league. 188 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 1: I would guesstimate based on how we're doing this division. No, 189 00:08:41,559 --> 00:08:44,960 Speaker 1: it's kind of what is by the way, Uh, Jared golf. 190 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:49,080 Speaker 1: Uh college report You ready? Oh yeah? A three year 191 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:51,640 Speaker 1: starter quarterback for the cow desired height for the position, lean, 192 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:54,280 Speaker 1: narrow frame, operates in the gun the bears air raid attack. 193 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 1: Everything about him is quick, quick feet, quick guys, quick release. 194 00:08:57,360 --> 00:08:59,040 Speaker 1: It's not all pick and stick in this version of 195 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 1: the spread offense. They're plenty examples where he reads left 196 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:04,080 Speaker 1: to right and delivers the ball. Doesn't have a huge arm, 197 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:05,680 Speaker 1: but he throws a pretty ball. He can fit in 198 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 1: tight windows. He'll try to force on occasion, which has 199 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:11,480 Speaker 1: led to some turnovers. Doesn't look to run often, but 200 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 1: he's athletic inside the pocket to avoid trouble and extent 201 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 1: plays very tough, doesn't flinch under heavy pressure. Overall, Golf 202 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 1: will needs some time to adjust in an NFL offense, 203 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:22,600 Speaker 1: but has all the necessary tools to be a solid 204 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:24,840 Speaker 1: starter at the next level. I mean, I think that's 205 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 1: what he proved to be. I think, I think the 206 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:31,040 Speaker 1: difficult thing if Jared Golf wasn't taking number one overall 207 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:34,840 Speaker 1: Jared Golf, if Jared Goff was taking twenty three overall, 208 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:39,079 Speaker 1: it's a different conversation, different expectation. But because the number 209 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 1: one overall pick, there's a level, there's a standard where 210 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:44,920 Speaker 1: you expect that guy to be, I mean an All 211 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 1: Pro player, a Hall of Fame worthy player down the line, 212 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 1: like a transcendent talent, and that's not That's not who 213 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:54,720 Speaker 1: he is. I think he's a solid starter. And I 214 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:57,360 Speaker 1: think what gets lost in the conversation sometimes when we 215 00:09:57,400 --> 00:09:59,960 Speaker 1: talk about trades or whatever, like people fall into the 216 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:01,760 Speaker 1: camp either you love him or hate him, and there's 217 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:04,559 Speaker 1: no middle ground. I think Jared is right in the middle, 218 00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:06,520 Speaker 1: and I think if you can appreciate what he is, 219 00:10:06,559 --> 00:10:09,480 Speaker 1: I think you'd be like, yeah, okay, Like maybe he's 220 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:11,520 Speaker 1: going as far and the Rams are going as far 221 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:14,479 Speaker 1: as they can go with him and that style quarterback 222 00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:17,559 Speaker 1: in the building. But that doesn't mean that he's a 223 00:10:17,559 --> 00:10:20,199 Speaker 1: bust or a flop or failure. It just means that, look, 224 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:21,760 Speaker 1: we've we've written it as far as we can go. 225 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 1: Much like Alex Smith in the Kann City Chiefs, Right, 226 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:27,120 Speaker 1: Alex Smiths in the chief they got to a point 227 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 1: where they bumped the siling they got to do. But 228 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:33,240 Speaker 1: Pat Mahomes comes in and they go over because he's 229 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 1: a more talented player. I think that is the conversation 230 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:38,360 Speaker 1: that we should be having with Jared car Yeah, well 231 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 1: it's a good point. That fascinating side note on this, 232 00:10:41,520 --> 00:10:45,600 Speaker 1: Anthony Lynn is offens. According to the Detroit Lions, he 233 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:47,800 Speaker 1: had kind of a front row seat to see kind 234 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:51,320 Speaker 1: of the end of Philip Rivers time there um. And 235 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 1: obviously different costs much younger than Philip, but they're similar 236 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:56,120 Speaker 1: in that they're neither one of them are super athletic 237 00:10:56,120 --> 00:10:58,400 Speaker 1: and gonna be able to escape. And I know it 238 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:01,679 Speaker 1: was a little bit frustrating for Anthony Lynn because if 239 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:04,880 Speaker 1: you had any problems up front, Philip couldn't you know, 240 00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:06,680 Speaker 1: if he didn't get the ball, he couldn't get physically 241 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:09,600 Speaker 1: get away from that. And so the Chargers really wanted 242 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:12,200 Speaker 1: to get more athletic at that position. So justin Herbert 243 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:15,560 Speaker 1: comes in same offensive line, you know, most of the 244 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:17,840 Speaker 1: same system, and he was able to get away from 245 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 1: a lot of that stuff just as an athletic quarterback. 246 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:23,720 Speaker 1: I'm just to me, Anthony Lynn and Jared Goff doesn't 247 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:26,439 Speaker 1: feel like a great match. It just doesn't. Yeah, I wonder. 248 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:31,160 Speaker 1: So what I wonder is the good thing in my mind, 249 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:35,160 Speaker 1: because like Anthony comes from the Shanahan tree or whatever. 250 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:38,560 Speaker 1: He's like he has four years of tape of Jerry 251 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 1: Goff in a system that is very similar to what 252 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 1: I think he's going to run. And I think he's 253 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:44,960 Speaker 1: gonna have to pick and choose off that menu of 254 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:46,760 Speaker 1: what Jerry Goff did, and he's gonna have to find 255 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:50,600 Speaker 1: a way to dress up the old theo hamburg Sometimes 256 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:54,480 Speaker 1: it's cheese. Sometimes you gotta catchup and and mustard on it. 257 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:57,520 Speaker 1: Sometimes maybe putt like some burger sauce on it, but 258 00:11:57,559 --> 00:11:59,800 Speaker 1: it's the same burger. And he's gonna have to find 259 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:04,600 Speaker 1: way to keep it creative for Jared while doing those things, 260 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:06,080 Speaker 1: because it's been proven. This is what we know about 261 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:10,240 Speaker 1: Jerry Golf. Jerry Golf is a play action passer. He 262 00:12:10,280 --> 00:12:12,640 Speaker 1: needs to throw off play action. He needs to throw 263 00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:17,080 Speaker 1: the bootleg movement game slightly outside the box. That's what 264 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:19,040 Speaker 1: he is. If you get into a situation where he 265 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:22,800 Speaker 1: has to do traditional dropback passes, that is not going 266 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:25,200 Speaker 1: to be his strength. And so I mean, that's what 267 00:12:25,240 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 1: your quarterback can do, so you have to find a 268 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:29,600 Speaker 1: way to do it well. You've got a blocking tight 269 00:12:29,679 --> 00:12:32,200 Speaker 1: end and a running back as your head coaching offensive coordinator, 270 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:33,800 Speaker 1: so I can guarantee you they're gonna want to run 271 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:37,040 Speaker 1: the football. Um, so that's look, DeAndre Swift is gonna 272 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:38,440 Speaker 1: be the big winner in this whole thing. He's gonna 273 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:40,840 Speaker 1: get a ton of carries in this offense. I mean 274 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:44,280 Speaker 1: they have to also DJ. This is one whenever we 275 00:12:44,280 --> 00:12:46,079 Speaker 1: talk about the trade, we always talked about it from 276 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:50,120 Speaker 1: the ramslant. Justin thinking about the Detroit Lion slant. Never 277 00:12:50,280 --> 00:12:54,720 Speaker 1: underestimate how much if you are a college scouting director 278 00:12:54,760 --> 00:12:57,120 Speaker 1: and you one who lives in the draft, how much 279 00:12:57,160 --> 00:12:59,800 Speaker 1: you love your picks. Part of the reason why j 280 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:02,840 Speaker 1: at Golf comes over to Detroit is because general manager 281 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:05,160 Speaker 1: Brad Holmes was a college scouting director, played a big 282 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:09,480 Speaker 1: role in him coming in. And sometimes your affinity for 283 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:12,559 Speaker 1: the guys that you pick impacts your judgment going forward. 284 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:15,640 Speaker 1: So I wouldn't be surprised if they don't take a pick, 285 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:18,400 Speaker 1: if they don't take a quarterback early. I wouldn't be 286 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:20,880 Speaker 1: surprised if at eight they're like or seven they're like, 287 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:23,000 Speaker 1: now we're good, we can go with him. We will 288 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:24,719 Speaker 1: get all the other stuff because they still have a 289 00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:26,600 Speaker 1: level of confidence that he can play at a high level. 290 00:13:26,840 --> 00:13:29,000 Speaker 1: So here's the here's the reason why I think you 291 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:31,200 Speaker 1: might be onto something. There is because when they've Dan 292 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:33,360 Speaker 1: Campbells already talked about it, right, this is gonna be 293 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:36,600 Speaker 1: This requires patients. We're going to try and build this thing. 294 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:39,520 Speaker 1: And we've just laid out the benefits of having a 295 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:42,160 Speaker 1: quarterback on a rookie deal. So if you're in the 296 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:44,600 Speaker 1: middle of if you're at the start of the rebuild, 297 00:13:45,040 --> 00:13:48,160 Speaker 1: to draft the quarterback now, it's too early, it's too 298 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:50,000 Speaker 1: you're not your team is not gonna be any good 299 00:13:50,120 --> 00:13:52,560 Speaker 1: until it's gonna be almost time to pay him. Yes, 300 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:55,440 Speaker 1: so it makes more sense to try and build up 301 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:59,200 Speaker 1: the infrastructure of the team. Boop, drop the quarterback in, 302 00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:02,600 Speaker 1: and then clock starts. I mean, that's that's that's kind 303 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:05,079 Speaker 1: of how Kansas City was, right, the whole thing is built, 304 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:07,600 Speaker 1: you get my homes and and that's why it makes sense. 305 00:14:07,640 --> 00:14:10,480 Speaker 1: And if you listen to what Dan Campbell of City said, Hey, 306 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:12,280 Speaker 1: two years, it's gonna take us two years to get 307 00:14:12,320 --> 00:14:15,000 Speaker 1: it right. Well two years. Then in a six year deal, 308 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:18,400 Speaker 1: he then has four years to reap the benefits of 309 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:22,360 Speaker 1: I got a rookie quarterback. Here's how we're progressing and 310 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 1: doing it. And so to me, the deal makes sense 311 00:14:24,920 --> 00:14:27,440 Speaker 1: for them because you already have your quarterback. We don't. 312 00:14:27,520 --> 00:14:29,880 Speaker 1: It's not the rush to feel like I gotta go 313 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:32,480 Speaker 1: and get the quarterback. Let's go and get the other 314 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:35,000 Speaker 1: players around the team, see if we can make the 315 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:37,360 Speaker 1: team better. And oh, by the way, if Jerry plays 316 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:41,000 Speaker 1: better than we expect, maybe we hit on something. May 317 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:42,720 Speaker 1: a change of scene and he brings out something, and 318 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:44,760 Speaker 1: maybe we don't have to go back. But why not 319 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:48,000 Speaker 1: give ourselves an option without putting the added pressure of 320 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:50,960 Speaker 1: drafting a young quarterback and everyone in the Motor City 321 00:14:51,040 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 1: talking about when when's the young quarterback going to play? 322 00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:56,240 Speaker 1: Give Jared a chance to see if he can do 323 00:14:56,280 --> 00:14:57,760 Speaker 1: the thing before you have to go back and shop 324 00:14:57,840 --> 00:15:00,880 Speaker 1: it that down that aisle. Yeah, let's start ripping through 325 00:15:00,920 --> 00:15:02,960 Speaker 1: some of these other quarterbacks here. And actually I'm gonna 326 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:04,240 Speaker 1: go out of order from what you have on your 327 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:06,479 Speaker 1: sheet here because I think this is a similar discussion. 328 00:15:06,880 --> 00:15:10,120 Speaker 1: So Sam Donald on there right, Sam Donald, to me, 329 00:15:10,160 --> 00:15:11,920 Speaker 1: if you look where the Jets are right now in 330 00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:15,480 Speaker 1: their process, they're not ready yet. They're not ready yet. 331 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:18,360 Speaker 1: So to me, it makes more sense to draft a quarterback, 332 00:15:18,400 --> 00:15:20,480 Speaker 1: whoever your quarterback of choices. It too. We got a 333 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:23,120 Speaker 1: long time before we get the draft. But to draft one, 334 00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 1: start that clock now as you're kind of you know, 335 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:27,920 Speaker 1: loading this thing up right now as you go. But 336 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:30,080 Speaker 1: to me, you're going to you're a year away from 337 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:32,440 Speaker 1: having to pay Sam Donald. You would be, you know, 338 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:35,120 Speaker 1: four years away from having to pay whoever you draft. 339 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:37,040 Speaker 1: It's gonna be a cheap number on that rookie deal. 340 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:39,000 Speaker 1: So to me, I just don't know if I want 341 00:15:39,040 --> 00:15:41,400 Speaker 1: that chunk if I'm not sure. And Sam is very 342 00:15:41,480 --> 00:15:43,280 Speaker 1: much in that gray area. We both love him, we 343 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:45,160 Speaker 1: both love them coming out. I think he's gonna he 344 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:46,720 Speaker 1: still has a chance to be really good player. He's 345 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:49,200 Speaker 1: twenty three years old. All that being said, it's gray. 346 00:15:49,480 --> 00:15:51,600 Speaker 1: It's not black and white. It's very gray with him. 347 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:53,320 Speaker 1: And I don't know if I want to set myself 348 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:55,560 Speaker 1: up for paying the going rate of what you're gonna 349 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 1: have to pay their versus restarting the clock with a rookie. Yeah, 350 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:01,560 Speaker 1: I think there's something too that here. Here's what I 351 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:03,520 Speaker 1: would say to you about the Sam Donald thing. This 352 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:05,520 Speaker 1: this thing bad because you're tied to the charge. I'd 353 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:08,120 Speaker 1: like to bring this example up. Drew Brees was very 354 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:10,960 Speaker 1: much a great area of player when they drafted Philip Rivers, 355 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:15,200 Speaker 1: they kept Drew Brees, and Drew Brees ended up playing 356 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:18,160 Speaker 1: really well, and then they resound him. Then they eventually 357 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:20,360 Speaker 1: moved on and gave Philip thing. I think you can 358 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:21,840 Speaker 1: hear the show he hurt his arm. If he didn't 359 00:16:21,920 --> 00:16:23,840 Speaker 1: hurt his arm, who knows what happens, right, because then 360 00:16:23,880 --> 00:16:26,400 Speaker 1: you get maybe have a serious conversation about the Drew 361 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:28,840 Speaker 1: Brees thing or whatever yours is on the last game 362 00:16:28,920 --> 00:16:31,480 Speaker 1: or whatever. He is not able to play with Sam Donald, 363 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:34,840 Speaker 1: I think you can draft one at two. And I 364 00:16:34,840 --> 00:16:37,800 Speaker 1: don't think it necessarily means automatically that you have to 365 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:40,880 Speaker 1: punt on him. Oh yeah, yeah, you get something you love, 366 00:16:40,920 --> 00:16:43,240 Speaker 1: you get value. Fine, if you don't love it, you're 367 00:16:43,280 --> 00:16:44,960 Speaker 1: better off just to keep him for a year, plan 368 00:16:45,280 --> 00:16:47,720 Speaker 1: keep keep him for a year two and especially depending 369 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:50,560 Speaker 1: on which quarterback you take it too, it might be good. 370 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:53,600 Speaker 1: And we both said that the system that he's about 371 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:56,800 Speaker 1: to jump into is the best system for him and 372 00:16:56,840 --> 00:16:59,480 Speaker 1: in my mind, for all young quarterbacks or whatever, because 373 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:01,800 Speaker 1: it's didn't make the game very easy. Let's see him 374 00:17:01,800 --> 00:17:04,000 Speaker 1: what see what he looks like in this system, and 375 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:08,600 Speaker 1: then you may actually elevate his trade market in a 376 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:11,359 Speaker 1: year by keeping him and developing him and then arching 377 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:13,560 Speaker 1: him off while you have the number two overall pick. 378 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:15,679 Speaker 1: I don't think you should be afraid of keeping him 379 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:18,320 Speaker 1: and drafting somebody as well. Again, to me, it comes 380 00:17:18,359 --> 00:17:20,280 Speaker 1: down to if you're getting the value that you want. 381 00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:22,800 Speaker 1: That determines that. So there's nothing wrong with keeping both 382 00:17:22,840 --> 00:17:24,399 Speaker 1: of them. I agree with you on that one. So 383 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:27,399 Speaker 1: that's that's kind of Sam Donald what we see with him. Um, 384 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:30,280 Speaker 1: if it's not the Jets. To me, um, I think 385 00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:33,760 Speaker 1: you look at the forty niners as the most logical 386 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:36,359 Speaker 1: spot and a lot of talk about you compare him 387 00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:40,119 Speaker 1: with Jimmy Garoppolo and where where Shanahan is on that 388 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:42,240 Speaker 1: you hear Kirk Cousins name is always going to come 389 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:45,199 Speaker 1: up right when when Shanahan's name is mentioned. And you 390 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:47,280 Speaker 1: also have to keep an eye on the Washington football team. 391 00:17:47,320 --> 00:17:49,439 Speaker 1: To me like that they he fits what they do 392 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:51,320 Speaker 1: as well, and uh, I think he would be a 393 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:52,879 Speaker 1: good fit there as well. You know, I think he 394 00:17:52,920 --> 00:17:55,520 Speaker 1: has an opportunity that he should have a couple of 395 00:17:56,119 --> 00:17:58,879 Speaker 1: spots that are there. San Francisco makes a ton of 396 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:02,600 Speaker 1: sennis because Skyle Shannon in the running game. He is 397 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:04,920 Speaker 1: an upgrade over what they play with when they haven't 398 00:18:04,960 --> 00:18:07,720 Speaker 1: had Jimmy Garoppolo available. I would think that he would 399 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:09,479 Speaker 1: flourish in this system, and I think he would actually 400 00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:12,520 Speaker 1: flourish under the Jedi, the master of it all, because 401 00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:15,640 Speaker 1: I think Shanahan is even different than Sean mcvah Matt 402 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:17,720 Speaker 1: the flu when it comes to running this scheme. All right, 403 00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:19,439 Speaker 1: we can cross a couple of guys off the list here, 404 00:18:19,480 --> 00:18:22,200 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers don't need to discuss. He's not going anywhere. 405 00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:25,840 Speaker 1: We've already got Stafford to the Rams. Uh, We've already 406 00:18:25,880 --> 00:18:28,040 Speaker 1: got Golf to the Lions, crossing them off. We just 407 00:18:28,119 --> 00:18:30,679 Speaker 1: hit Sam Donald check um. So let's go to the 408 00:18:30,680 --> 00:18:32,919 Speaker 1: top of the list. I mean, is Deshaun Watson just 409 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:35,280 Speaker 1: where we are right now? What you think happens with 410 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:37,920 Speaker 1: this thing? I think Sean Watson ends up in Houston. 411 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:41,560 Speaker 1: I don't think he goes anywhere really now, I think 412 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:45,359 Speaker 1: from a front office standpoint, DJ, we know how hard 413 00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:48,440 Speaker 1: it is to find a guy, right. It's hard enough 414 00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:51,879 Speaker 1: to find a starting quarterback, like a solid starter. It 415 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:56,360 Speaker 1: is even nearly impossible to find a truck in this situation. 416 00:18:56,640 --> 00:19:01,120 Speaker 1: If I am the Houston, Texans. I am not moving 417 00:19:01,359 --> 00:19:03,919 Speaker 1: off of that. I have to see him take me 418 00:19:04,040 --> 00:19:05,760 Speaker 1: all the way out into the regular season and say 419 00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:08,000 Speaker 1: that I'm not playing, I'm not showing up and doing 420 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:12,240 Speaker 1: those things. I cannot cave in because what you're getting 421 00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:16,320 Speaker 1: back in return is an unknown. I am. I'm over infirmed. 422 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:19,639 Speaker 1: I have to keep Deshaun Wasson in Houston. So I 423 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:21,320 Speaker 1: was talking to somebody in the League of the day 424 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:24,520 Speaker 1: and they said, you know the same type of thing, right, 425 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:26,800 Speaker 1: you can't trade him, call his bluff. See if he's 426 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 1: willing to sit and and I've mentioned I think he's 427 00:19:29,880 --> 00:19:33,000 Speaker 1: pretty principal dude. And I could see him pulling a 428 00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:35,399 Speaker 1: Carson Palmer and being like, fine, I'm I'm good. I 429 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:38,239 Speaker 1: made enough money for a thousand lifetimes. I'm good, So 430 00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:40,359 Speaker 1: I'm not I'm just not playing here anymore, and stick 431 00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:43,280 Speaker 1: to his guns. I could see both those things happening. Um, 432 00:19:43,359 --> 00:19:47,120 Speaker 1: but this, this person and brought up said, I get 433 00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:49,960 Speaker 1: the sense I would not be surprised if somebody just 434 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:53,160 Speaker 1: blew their doors off. And in terms of what that 435 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:55,840 Speaker 1: looks like, Buck, I mean, we were talking about like 436 00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:58,240 Speaker 1: he was like, what if it's four first round picks 437 00:19:58,400 --> 00:20:01,480 Speaker 1: and you know you're you're, you know, two defensive starters, 438 00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:04,760 Speaker 1: like two really good players, Like you're talking about a massive, 439 00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:08,919 Speaker 1: massive haul. He thinks somebody could just go all in 440 00:20:09,080 --> 00:20:10,879 Speaker 1: on that one. I would say the one team that 441 00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:13,320 Speaker 1: I would see being able to do that would be 442 00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:16,159 Speaker 1: the Carolina Panthers. And the reason why is because you 443 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:19,040 Speaker 1: have an owner who comes from Wall Street, who was 444 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:21,639 Speaker 1: about playing the market and living in the margins and 445 00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:26,119 Speaker 1: understanding value in those things. I think he possibly David 446 00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:29,080 Speaker 1: Tepper would possibly be the owner who was signed off 447 00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:32,520 Speaker 1: on something like that, like let's go all in on 448 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:35,359 Speaker 1: Deshaun Wasson, he played in Clemson. It's right there. It 449 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:38,560 Speaker 1: would be a marketing bonanza. He's a player who has 450 00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:44,680 Speaker 1: already established. Joe Brady and Deshaun Watson teaming up lights out. 451 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:49,400 Speaker 1: Not only that, Deshaun Watson Christian McCaffrey, both guys young 452 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:51,600 Speaker 1: and in their thing. I think they were signed up 453 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:54,200 Speaker 1: for that. Yeah. Um, that would be a situation where 454 00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:56,320 Speaker 1: we do it. But from the Houston side, Man, I 455 00:20:56,359 --> 00:20:58,399 Speaker 1: would have to hold front because it's just so hard 456 00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:02,000 Speaker 1: to find. Of course, no, I was thinking of you 457 00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:05,000 Speaker 1: ever go to paneraad a Panera bra Yes, you know 458 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:07,679 Speaker 1: on the menu it has a pick two. Like I 459 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:11,960 Speaker 1: was thinking, like, here's you get three first round picks 460 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:14,320 Speaker 1: and a pick to pick two. Any any two guys 461 00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:16,200 Speaker 1: you want on our roster. Go ahead, you pick two 462 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:18,400 Speaker 1: of those and you get three first rounders. Then we're done. 463 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:22,600 Speaker 1: The pick to trade pick two. Yeah, I mean it 464 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:25,280 Speaker 1: would be something, and I think, um, the Matthew Stafford 465 00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:27,960 Speaker 1: trade with everybody's appetite because you're talking about a young 466 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:29,720 Speaker 1: guy that is there, and you hear a lot of 467 00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:32,919 Speaker 1: people say like, oh, it doesn't it doesn't matter, it 468 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:35,600 Speaker 1: doesn't have anything that you're younger. He's sending you're younger 469 00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:39,080 Speaker 1: than does It does have an impact because sending those 470 00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:43,040 Speaker 1: picks back for Matthew Stafford just unless you know how 471 00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:47,400 Speaker 1: high end quarterback is valued, the quarterback is value. Yeah, 472 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:50,520 Speaker 1: for DeShawn Watson, it would do that. But I still say, 473 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:52,919 Speaker 1: if I'm the Texas, I don't want to do it. 474 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:55,600 Speaker 1: I want to exhaust it before I actually have to 475 00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:57,320 Speaker 1: do it. No, I think you're smart there. All right, 476 00:21:57,359 --> 00:21:59,720 Speaker 1: let's rip through the rest of these here. Uh dak 477 00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:02,560 Speaker 1: Press Scott, what happens there? I think he stays there, 478 00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:04,560 Speaker 1: But I think they've messed this up so that we've 479 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:06,439 Speaker 1: said this. I feel like we've had this conversation a 480 00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:09,200 Speaker 1: million times, like you you should have paid him three 481 00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:11,040 Speaker 1: years ago when it had been twenty seven million dollars. 482 00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:13,200 Speaker 1: Now you're gonna have to pay thirty nine forty million 483 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:18,719 Speaker 1: dollars and you're going to truck I think he is, 484 00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:23,240 Speaker 1: So I actually think he is. I mean I think 485 00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:25,120 Speaker 1: he is, but I get worried. I think we saw 486 00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:28,720 Speaker 1: his value this year. I just think it's it's different. Yeah, 487 00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:31,320 Speaker 1: I mean he's he's a truck man. I don't know 488 00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:33,639 Speaker 1: if I ever would have had that conversation like that's funny. 489 00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:35,800 Speaker 1: I think that's something that man if we put that 490 00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:39,119 Speaker 1: chum out into water on Twitter, Dak Prescott is a 491 00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:41,480 Speaker 1: truck man. You talked about want to get, Oh you'll 492 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:44,080 Speaker 1: get one, you get You'll get both sides. And here 493 00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:46,320 Speaker 1: here's here's why. Here's why I would say he's a 494 00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:50,080 Speaker 1: truck buck. If the play is designed, is called, I 495 00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:51,919 Speaker 1: think he can execute it, and I think he can 496 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:54,280 Speaker 1: do that at a high level. But then he can 497 00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:56,840 Speaker 1: also escape and create and make me right even when 498 00:22:56,840 --> 00:23:00,200 Speaker 1: I'm wrong. Um, and I think he does elevate ate 499 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:02,000 Speaker 1: the play of others around him. I think he makes 500 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:04,320 Speaker 1: other guys better, and I think that's a sign of 501 00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:06,840 Speaker 1: a truck to me. Yeah, well, I think. I think. 502 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:08,760 Speaker 1: I think based on what we saw from them this 503 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:11,920 Speaker 1: year in the in the same year, how this team 504 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:14,440 Speaker 1: looked with him. They may have been one in three 505 00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:16,119 Speaker 1: or one in four, whatever, but he was putting the 506 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:19,359 Speaker 1: big points in every game was within one score. He 507 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:22,760 Speaker 1: goes away was terrible, defense was terrible, and they only 508 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:24,960 Speaker 1: can score like sixteen points a game. And so it's 509 00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:28,359 Speaker 1: it's a big deal. Yeah, we'll see. I think that 510 00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:30,959 Speaker 1: gets that gets done. There went Dallas. Okay, let's go 511 00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:34,159 Speaker 1: down to the next one. Here, Carson Wentz. I know, 512 00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:38,280 Speaker 1: he says, you know what was in my mind. I 513 00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:41,400 Speaker 1: was thinking Trucks and Trader and I was like, um, 514 00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:43,720 Speaker 1: he stays, I think that the head coaching move was 515 00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:46,880 Speaker 1: not designed with Carson Wentzon mind. We can't get Frank right, 516 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:48,879 Speaker 1: we will get the guy that is close to Frank 517 00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:51,520 Speaker 1: right to see if we can implement the same kind 518 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:54,320 Speaker 1: of stuff that made Carson went successful in twenty seventeen. 519 00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:56,480 Speaker 1: So yeah, he stays, he's the starter to can we 520 00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:58,639 Speaker 1: can we buy the way can we get off Sirianni 521 00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:00,960 Speaker 1: for the press count he's he's a football coach. He 522 00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:03,679 Speaker 1: you know the press. I think people lost their minds 523 00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:06,080 Speaker 1: on that. People lost their minds because he had the 524 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:08,120 Speaker 1: prepared statement. But what he said, if you really listen 525 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:10,840 Speaker 1: to the words, he said what all coaches talk about. 526 00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:14,399 Speaker 1: Let's simplify the game. Let's make it easy for the players, 527 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:16,320 Speaker 1: Let's make them play fast. Find a way to make 528 00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:19,040 Speaker 1: it complex with the opponent in terms of what we're doing. 529 00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:21,560 Speaker 1: But it has to be players central, player driven. I 530 00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 1: think the best teams that's what they do. They eliminate 531 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:26,840 Speaker 1: the gray area and allot of their guys to play fast. 532 00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:29,760 Speaker 1: And I think for Carson Wentz that's actually what he needs. 533 00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:32,960 Speaker 1: He needs something where we talked about last year DJ 534 00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:35,240 Speaker 1: when he was at his best when they win, no 535 00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:38,239 Speaker 1: huddle up Temple two minutes, because what does it do. 536 00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:42,840 Speaker 1: It takes away all that other stuff, the the the variables. Hey, 537 00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:44,720 Speaker 1: they do this, I'm gonna do that like no, I'm playing. 538 00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:46,919 Speaker 1: I'm going And I think that's what he needs. I 539 00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:50,080 Speaker 1: think that's what this team needs. Yeah, I'm with you, 540 00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:52,560 Speaker 1: and I think the only thing I could see is 541 00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:56,000 Speaker 1: if if the Colts somehow came in real real strong 542 00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:58,120 Speaker 1: that that maybe something can happen there. But my gut 543 00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:01,800 Speaker 1: says this is Carson Wentz in Philly going forward. How 544 00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:05,480 Speaker 1: about Jimmy G. I think Jimmy G stays I think 545 00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:09,080 Speaker 1: they may look and talk about, but I think at 546 00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:11,040 Speaker 1: the end of the day, they feel good about Jimmy 547 00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:13,400 Speaker 1: G based on what they don't want to give up. 548 00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:16,800 Speaker 1: I think they value the assets that they have, draft 549 00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:19,880 Speaker 1: capital and the quarterback more than a less traded away 550 00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:22,240 Speaker 1: the assets and get something in return. I think they've 551 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:23,800 Speaker 1: seen that they go to a super Bowl with him. 552 00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:25,800 Speaker 1: I think that encouraged him to stick with it at 553 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:28,040 Speaker 1: least one another year. I think Jimmy G is a 554 00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:31,080 Speaker 1: little bit tied um with Deshaun Watson. I think if 555 00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:34,159 Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson were to go, I know everybody assumes that 556 00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:35,960 Speaker 1: if he went to Miami, that too would be in 557 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:37,320 Speaker 1: the dealer. If he went to the Jets, that Donald 558 00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:39,239 Speaker 1: would be in the deal. I'm not so sure about that. 559 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:42,760 Speaker 1: To me, Nick has more of a connection there with Garoppolo, 560 00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:46,200 Speaker 1: with somebody has history with and and would be comfortable with. 561 00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:48,280 Speaker 1: I could see them getting as many picks as if 562 00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:50,040 Speaker 1: they did trade Watson, get as many picks as they 563 00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:53,040 Speaker 1: can and players, but not quarterback. And then and then 564 00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:55,280 Speaker 1: you have kind of the carousel could go there where 565 00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:57,200 Speaker 1: Donald could go to the Niners, and you could see 566 00:25:57,240 --> 00:25:59,520 Speaker 1: Jimmy G go to the Texans. But I think Jimmy 567 00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:01,560 Speaker 1: G's kind of depending on what happens with some of 568 00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:04,119 Speaker 1: these other some of these other situations. But yeah, and 569 00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:05,520 Speaker 1: then if you can get upgrade, you can tell him 570 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:08,240 Speaker 1: get to Shaun Watson, uh to San Francisco. Yeah, I 571 00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:09,920 Speaker 1: think they do that deal. But I think the rest 572 00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:12,600 Speaker 1: of the quarterbacks that are on the market, I don't 573 00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:15,080 Speaker 1: know if there is fired up about In terms of 574 00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:17,360 Speaker 1: moving on from me. Matthew Stafford is one I think 575 00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:20,879 Speaker 1: that anybody has to explore just because of the talent 576 00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:23,159 Speaker 1: that he brings to the table. All right, Cam Newton, 577 00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:25,879 Speaker 1: here's an emoji for this buck. It's this one right here, 578 00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:29,119 Speaker 1: because I got I think I think New England is 579 00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:33,719 Speaker 1: his best spot. And I think after Matthew Stafford and 580 00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:36,080 Speaker 1: that stuff that came out about Matthew Stafford not wanting 581 00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:38,360 Speaker 1: to go to New England, and I think a lot 582 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:40,040 Speaker 1: of that was due to the way that he was 583 00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:42,680 Speaker 1: treated by Matt Patricia. I don't think you really liked 584 00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:44,960 Speaker 1: the Patriot Way and what was done in Detroit. I 585 00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:46,679 Speaker 1: don't think he wanted to sign up for that. I 586 00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:49,760 Speaker 1: think for New England, I think Cam Newton there's a 587 00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:51,639 Speaker 1: path for him to return there. I think that's his 588 00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:53,680 Speaker 1: best path. I think he has to find a way 589 00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:55,720 Speaker 1: to kind of bridge that gap to get back to 590 00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:59,240 Speaker 1: New England. All right, So how about Teddy Teddy Bridgewater, 591 00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:01,080 Speaker 1: I mean air line. It seems to be that they 592 00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:03,199 Speaker 1: were in on Stafford, all the reports that they were 593 00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:06,160 Speaker 1: in on Stafford. They definitely are in a position to draft. 594 00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:08,920 Speaker 1: They already eight. I think the better they need more. 595 00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:10,840 Speaker 1: To me, it feels a little bit like the discussion 596 00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:14,480 Speaker 1: we just had about Alex Smith. You know, it's like, Okay, good, 597 00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:16,719 Speaker 1: but man we are we're at the top of the ceiling, 598 00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:18,800 Speaker 1: right and so so I think I think based on 599 00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:21,520 Speaker 1: the money that he's guaranteed. I think he's the bridge. 600 00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:25,280 Speaker 1: I think they take a quarterback this year and he's 601 00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:27,840 Speaker 1: the starter to begin the season, and then how he 602 00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:30,160 Speaker 1: plays de Termines when the young guy gets onto the field, 603 00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:33,240 Speaker 1: I think that's that's that's his play. Ye all right, 604 00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:35,760 Speaker 1: so there's Teddy all right where it's true bisky gonna go. 605 00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:39,680 Speaker 1: I thought before that, I thought before the playoff game 606 00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:42,359 Speaker 1: there was a chance that he comes back on a 607 00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:45,159 Speaker 1: one year deal or you know, some type of a 608 00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:47,399 Speaker 1: two year deal, like just some type of a short 609 00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:50,760 Speaker 1: situation there. The way the playoff game ended up going, 610 00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:53,960 Speaker 1: it just everybody left there saying, Okay, this is probably done. 611 00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:57,680 Speaker 1: Uh to me, um, the Steelers made sense to kind 612 00:27:57,680 --> 00:27:59,640 Speaker 1: of go sit for a year behind Ben and see 613 00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:01,239 Speaker 1: if you can kind of just give himself right at 614 00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:02,920 Speaker 1: the same agent. I think they know each other, that 615 00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:05,880 Speaker 1: they might be friends, but then they went inside Haskins, 616 00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:09,320 Speaker 1: So I don't know where he goes. I think Tennessee 617 00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:11,600 Speaker 1: would be a good spot for him. I think sitting 618 00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:16,480 Speaker 1: behind Ryan Tannehill, seeing how Ryan Tannehill has evolved and 619 00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:19,159 Speaker 1: changed his game, I think Mitch has some trades that 620 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:21,880 Speaker 1: are very similar. I think what Mitch has to do 621 00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:24,960 Speaker 1: is Mitch has to lean into and welcome I'm going 622 00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:26,840 Speaker 1: to be athletic and I'm a run when I have 623 00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:28,840 Speaker 1: to run. And I think what he could learn from 624 00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:32,320 Speaker 1: Ryan Tannehill is how to tow that line in terms 625 00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:35,000 Speaker 1: of being a player that could play on the actress. Um. 626 00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:36,719 Speaker 1: So it'll be interesting to see what happens with him. 627 00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:39,240 Speaker 1: How about how about Jammes Jamis. Is he gonna be 628 00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:41,120 Speaker 1: the guy in New Orleans? Or is he or they 629 00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:43,000 Speaker 1: looking somewhere else? And I think he stays in New 630 00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:44,600 Speaker 1: Orleans And I think his best opportunity to be a 631 00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:48,000 Speaker 1: starting quarterback is with the Saints. I think Sean Payton 632 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:50,720 Speaker 1: understands what he has in Taysom Hill and Jamison. I 633 00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:53,960 Speaker 1: think one coach who could make two quarterbacks work would 634 00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:57,720 Speaker 1: be Sean Payton. I would like to see that combination 635 00:28:57,800 --> 00:28:59,920 Speaker 1: work because Jameis would give them what they didn't have 636 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,000 Speaker 1: last year, and that is the ability to push the 637 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:04,800 Speaker 1: ball down the field. Yeah, but that would give them that. 638 00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:06,520 Speaker 1: You also could look at it and say, man, maybe 639 00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:08,880 Speaker 1: they try and work out something to get Teddy Bridgewater back. 640 00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:11,960 Speaker 1: They won games with them there that worked with him, Yeah, 641 00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:15,680 Speaker 1: they did. I think Teddy's the bridge got there. I 642 00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:19,840 Speaker 1: think Teddy after this running in Carolina, I think Teddy 643 00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:22,840 Speaker 1: ends up being a guy very similar to Buying Leftwich 644 00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:26,680 Speaker 1: who becomes a trusted backup based on his ability to win. 645 00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:29,520 Speaker 1: I don't think he goes from Carolina to out the league. 646 00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:31,760 Speaker 1: I think he goes to being a high end backup, 647 00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:34,920 Speaker 1: much like Andy Dalton has been able to do. Alright, 648 00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:38,360 Speaker 1: Uh fits fits Magic is a free agent. I can't 649 00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:40,440 Speaker 1: see them. To me, the dynamic that you can't bring 650 00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:42,920 Speaker 1: him back in Miami. I know he's very popular. That's 651 00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:44,880 Speaker 1: part of the problem. If you have a hope for TOA, 652 00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:47,520 Speaker 1: you can't keep him there. It doesn't make any sense. 653 00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:49,920 Speaker 1: You gotta get him out the building. Uh, He'll go somewhere. 654 00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:51,480 Speaker 1: I don't I don't know where he goes. I think 655 00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:54,160 Speaker 1: he has another one about the Patriots. I think that's 656 00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:55,600 Speaker 1: the only team he hasn't played with in the a 657 00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:58,080 Speaker 1: f C. East Man, you think Bill Belichick could live 658 00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:00,240 Speaker 1: with the turnovers. I just want to see him plead 659 00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:03,680 Speaker 1: the cycle. I mean he has right, he's everywhere everyone. 660 00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:05,560 Speaker 1: He's played for, the Jets, he's played for the Dolphins. 661 00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:07,920 Speaker 1: Away needs is the Patriots. I didn't even think about that. 662 00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:09,960 Speaker 1: Can't be many guys that have played for every team 663 00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:13,360 Speaker 1: in the division. No, no, no, I I don't know 664 00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:15,440 Speaker 1: where he goes. You know you know where? Actually, you 665 00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:18,560 Speaker 1: know I could see making some sense for him, UM 666 00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:20,880 Speaker 1: is to bring him out if I was the Chargers. 667 00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:24,280 Speaker 1: Just because he's so smart, Herbert's established himself. He's not 668 00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:26,600 Speaker 1: any threat to Justin Herbert at all there, but just 669 00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:28,720 Speaker 1: having that type of a mind in there, I wouldn't 670 00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:31,440 Speaker 1: mind having that around Justin Herbert. Let him learn from 671 00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:34,200 Speaker 1: some of those experiences. Yeah, to be interesting because the 672 00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:36,240 Speaker 1: Charges do you need to back up quarterback, and you 673 00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:39,200 Speaker 1: would like to think that gets him experienced, someone who 674 00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:41,960 Speaker 1: can step in because it's in a way I won't 675 00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:44,760 Speaker 1: say a super Bowl the bus, but they're big expectations. 676 00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:48,000 Speaker 1: You better have a quarterback that you can envision starting 677 00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:51,520 Speaker 1: for three or four games. And Easton Stick Eastern Stick 678 00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:53,239 Speaker 1: might be that guy. I like Easton Stick. He can 679 00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:55,640 Speaker 1: run around, make some plays. But I just think to me, 680 00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:58,760 Speaker 1: it's just having the wisdom of a veteran quarterback when 681 00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:00,800 Speaker 1: you have a young guy. I think that makes sense. Yeah, 682 00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:03,760 Speaker 1: and also remember he's gonna be learning a new scheme, 683 00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:06,480 Speaker 1: you know, like that hasn't really been talked about Joe 684 00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:09,120 Speaker 1: Lombardi coming in. That is a new system, a new scheme, 685 00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:10,760 Speaker 1: and he may need some help along the way kind 686 00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:12,960 Speaker 1: of putting it together. Even though I don't think Fist 687 00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:17,680 Speaker 1: has played in that system, just so much inventory of 688 00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:20,320 Speaker 1: offensive schemes and fits. He may be able to help 689 00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:22,680 Speaker 1: justin herban in every garden. All right, let's go through 690 00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:25,200 Speaker 1: a couple more here. Alex Smith, he's got two years 691 00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:27,000 Speaker 1: left on his contract, but all the guaranteed money has 692 00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:29,320 Speaker 1: been paid. Yeah, I think he's there as a backup 693 00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:31,200 Speaker 1: with the Washington football team. I think they find a 694 00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:33,720 Speaker 1: young quarterback, but I think he has been so good 695 00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:36,400 Speaker 1: for them in terms of the level of professionalism in 696 00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:38,840 Speaker 1: the building. I think he has an opportunity to stay. 697 00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:40,640 Speaker 1: Not as a startup. I think he's opportunity to stay. 698 00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:42,680 Speaker 1: Ben's got to redo his deal, but basically came out 699 00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:45,600 Speaker 1: and said he's what money doesn't matter. Basically just said 700 00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:47,880 Speaker 1: I just want to play. Yeah, one year, one year, 701 00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:50,080 Speaker 1: Like this is it. I think we've seen it, like, 702 00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:52,600 Speaker 1: I mean, a little band old quarterbacks fall off a 703 00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:54,960 Speaker 1: cliff and our two thousand four class. He's the last 704 00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:56,800 Speaker 1: man standard that had the last one, and so I 705 00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:58,680 Speaker 1: think this is it. I think this is the last 706 00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:01,480 Speaker 1: last raf had been wrought the All right, and then 707 00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:05,280 Speaker 1: not on the sheet here, but a couple more, Um, 708 00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:08,160 Speaker 1: Derek Carr, is there any chance he's not with the Raiders. 709 00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:11,560 Speaker 1: I just don't get the sense that, like guaranteed a 710 00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:14,200 Speaker 1: hundred percent, he's our guy going forward. He's not going around. 711 00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:17,000 Speaker 1: I don't get that. I just don't. I don't get that. DJ. 712 00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:18,640 Speaker 1: I would be honest with you, I thought after we 713 00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:22,320 Speaker 1: sat there on Thursday and Marcus Mariot I can't here 714 00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:24,440 Speaker 1: if you were on the game at Amazon, I was 715 00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:27,520 Speaker 1: calling the game for the Chargers Radio US. Yeah. So 716 00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:30,719 Speaker 1: like after that game and after watching how that offense 717 00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:36,400 Speaker 1: look with Marcus, I thought Gruden would be like, yeah, maybe, yeah, 718 00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:39,760 Speaker 1: I think if they can get somebody into thinking that 719 00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:41,320 Speaker 1: he can be the guy, I don't think they would 720 00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:44,520 Speaker 1: blanket moving off of him. Statistically, it looks good, he's 721 00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:47,040 Speaker 1: car played well, and you look at the numbers and 722 00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:50,680 Speaker 1: their offense where they were they were for top ten offense. Yeah, 723 00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:53,120 Speaker 1: but just you just never get the sense that that's 724 00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:55,520 Speaker 1: Gruden's guy. You just don't get that sense. No, I 725 00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:58,080 Speaker 1: definitely don't get this sense. And I definitely don't get 726 00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:01,000 Speaker 1: this sense that they are a super Bowl team with 727 00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:04,480 Speaker 1: him quarterback. Like, I think they can win games and 728 00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:07,320 Speaker 1: eventually maybe get into the postseason. But I think there's 729 00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:09,560 Speaker 1: a sailing in terms of what they can do with him. 730 00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:11,520 Speaker 1: Can I do? Can I do the connection with Derek 731 00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:13,720 Speaker 1: Car though? If he's If Derek Carr is not the 732 00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:17,040 Speaker 1: quarterback for the Las Vegas Raiders next year? Okay, who 733 00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:20,040 Speaker 1: did Who did Derek Carr play for? Who was his 734 00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:24,000 Speaker 1: head coach at Fresno State? I can't remember Pat Hill? 735 00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:30,440 Speaker 1: Who think he goes offensive line coach all those years? 736 00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:33,960 Speaker 1: Do you think he goes Hill? He plays the game 737 00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:36,600 Speaker 1: like like Belichick wants to play the game. He doesn't. 738 00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:38,360 Speaker 1: He's not gonna turn the ball over. US had some 739 00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:41,960 Speaker 1: fumble issues this last year. Play small ball, but yeah, 740 00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:43,920 Speaker 1: I mean he kind of like, we're gonna play defense, 741 00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:47,240 Speaker 1: We're gonna run the football, don't turn it over. Um. 742 00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:48,880 Speaker 1: I mean again, the fumbels were a little bit of 743 00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:50,520 Speaker 1: an issue, but outside of that, that's kind of how 744 00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:53,160 Speaker 1: Car plays and there's a connection there. Yeah. Does he 745 00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:55,120 Speaker 1: strike you as a gritty dude? Does he strike you 746 00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:57,680 Speaker 1: as gritty enough to be able to kind of do 747 00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:01,200 Speaker 1: the Patriot thing? I don't know. I kind of go 748 00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:04,120 Speaker 1: I don't know. I think he's tough. I think he's 749 00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:06,920 Speaker 1: physically tough. I mean he's I mean, it makes some 750 00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:09,160 Speaker 1: sense when you bring the Petill connection. Would you rather 751 00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:11,560 Speaker 1: have right now? If you're to me, I'd rather have 752 00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:15,360 Speaker 1: if you gave him the choice of right now, Cam Newton, 753 00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:18,080 Speaker 1: I'm taking Derek carl over camp, Derek Carkin through, Derek 754 00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:23,120 Speaker 1: Carkin through it better. Um, I mean the pat connection 755 00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:27,080 Speaker 1: because Pat pat Will having said to just pull that 756 00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:28,920 Speaker 1: out of my backside, by the way, but just the 757 00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:33,200 Speaker 1: fact that there's gonna advocate he can advocate for him. Yeah, 758 00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:38,080 Speaker 1: there's a connection to interesting and the last one, same team, 759 00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:39,920 Speaker 1: and we talked about them briefly there with Mariota. He's 760 00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:42,520 Speaker 1: under contract, but you know, is there somebody that tries 761 00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:43,920 Speaker 1: to make a move on that one? No, no, no, 762 00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:45,440 Speaker 1: I think if you're the great, you're the Raiders, you 763 00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:47,680 Speaker 1: don't let him out the building because I think potentially 764 00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:49,920 Speaker 1: he's a guy that can he can be there. When 765 00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:52,160 Speaker 1: they signed him, I thought maybe he could kind of 766 00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:54,520 Speaker 1: be a little bit of that Rich Gannon for them, 767 00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:58,640 Speaker 1: their reclamation project that they discovery. They add something to him. 768 00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:02,239 Speaker 1: Gruden challenges challenges him in a way that makes him 769 00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:04,799 Speaker 1: play his best ball. I would love to see him 770 00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:08,319 Speaker 1: play more because I'm not gonna lie that Thursday night. 771 00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:11,600 Speaker 1: What he's displayed. Yeah, it was intriguing. You know, who 772 00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:14,280 Speaker 1: should know who should trade for him? If if, if 773 00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:16,440 Speaker 1: the Raiders just want to get out from under the money. 774 00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:17,719 Speaker 1: I think there's one you have to look at it. 775 00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:19,120 Speaker 1: I think there's one year left on his deal. He's 776 00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:22,120 Speaker 1: sound like a two year deal, right, two Ravens. If 777 00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:25,520 Speaker 1: I'm the Ravens. R G three has moved on, I 778 00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:28,400 Speaker 1: would that that's the backup. That is the perfect backup 779 00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:31,000 Speaker 1: for Lamar Jackson. So he's young, you know what, I think. 780 00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:34,120 Speaker 1: I think that's actually where Cam needs to end up, 781 00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:36,120 Speaker 1: even though he's older, if he's gonna be a backup 782 00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:38,200 Speaker 1: because he's better playing in r G three, even at 783 00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:41,600 Speaker 1: his with his limitations, he at least makes you they 784 00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:44,279 Speaker 1: they got hunted. Um if you know that doesn't fire 785 00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:47,480 Speaker 1: me up. So to me, I think he Lamar has 786 00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:50,200 Speaker 1: done a phenomenal job of staying healthy. But man, Buck, 787 00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:52,080 Speaker 1: we've seen this over the years, Like you run that 788 00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:55,759 Speaker 1: much at that position, Like eventually you're gonna if you 789 00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:57,480 Speaker 1: have to, the check is gonna come, do you know 790 00:35:57,520 --> 00:35:59,120 Speaker 1: what I mean? Like you're gonna have a stretcher. He's 791 00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:00,920 Speaker 1: gonna miss some games. It's got to happen. There's no 792 00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:03,040 Speaker 1: way he's gonna have He's going to miss some games 793 00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:05,560 Speaker 1: at some point in time. Um. So to me, I 794 00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:07,560 Speaker 1: think investing in the backup for them makes more sense 795 00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:10,279 Speaker 1: than maybe any other team, you know, I think so. 796 00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:11,879 Speaker 1: And I think they tried to put together the room 797 00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:14,480 Speaker 1: where they have a bunch of athletes at quarterback trace 798 00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:17,560 Speaker 1: McSorley Hunley. Uh they had r G three before they 799 00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:19,799 Speaker 1: waived him right after the season. Yeah, I mean, it's 800 00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:21,839 Speaker 1: is one of the positions they have to explore for sure. 801 00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:24,800 Speaker 1: All Right. How fun is this? By the way, it 802 00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:26,479 Speaker 1: mean it's a lot of fun. The NFL and never 803 00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:30,880 Speaker 1: never does never does absolute best at every time. I 804 00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:34,160 Speaker 1: mean since that Stafford thing happened, every time I open 805 00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:37,000 Speaker 1: up my computer, I'm just waiting to see you. Okay, 806 00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:40,200 Speaker 1: what what we got? What's what's next? We got next? 807 00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:42,000 Speaker 1: I mean, it is the gift that keeps on giving, 808 00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:44,919 Speaker 1: for sure. All right, anything you want to add before 809 00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:46,840 Speaker 1: we jump out of here? Man, No, man, it's fun, 810 00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:49,080 Speaker 1: it's fun. It's all good. I know you're busy with 811 00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:52,359 Speaker 1: Super Bowl covers, so you crushed that. Um I'm trying 812 00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:54,240 Speaker 1: to catch up with some of these prospects and stuff 813 00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:56,560 Speaker 1: like that. 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