Speaker 1: It's with Jenny Garth and Tori Spelling. Hello, nine O
Speaker 1: two one OMG ors It's Jenny and Tory and UM.
Speaker 1: We are going to do something special this week, something
Speaker 1: very very special. We are all come together for a
Speaker 1: tribute to Joey Tata, a celebration of life. So this
Speaker 1: is the first time in the history of nine O
Speaker 1: two one OMG that we're merging with the other amazing
Speaker 1: podcast nine two one Beverly Hills Show podcast and their
Speaker 1: host Pete is going to co host this with Jenny
Speaker 1: and I and UM, and we're bringing everyone together to
Speaker 1: jump on and kind of um celebrate Joey today. Oh well,
Speaker 1: we are all here together again, which is really great,
Speaker 1: but I wish it was for different, uh circumstances. We're
Speaker 1: joined by Matthew, Gabrielle and Lindsay and Pete. Of course
Speaker 1: Jason is coming on and yeah we have Jason coming
Speaker 1: in soon. But thanks guys for all coming together. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this is great. I mean, it's good to see everybody again.
Speaker 1: Being the host of the other show, the Beverly Hills
Speaker 1: Nino to Ano Show with Chuck and Larry, it's an
Speaker 1: honor to be here with all of you. So uh,
Speaker 1: you know, it's felt like we lost a family member
Speaker 1: for fans, I think, and for you guys is actually
Speaker 1: like you lost a family member and in a lot
Speaker 1: of ways. So I'm curious for you Jenny and Tory, like,
Speaker 1: how is this going for you? This has been a
Speaker 1: weird time period with a lot of loss and everybody's
Speaker 1: getting older and things are happening. Yeah. Well, first of all,
Speaker 1: we wanted to mention that there are two podcasts podcasts,
Speaker 1: so Pete, you guys have the nine O two on
Speaker 1: No Beverly Hill Show podcast. Jen and I have nine
Speaker 1: O two one o MG. And it really did feel
Speaker 1: right to kind of merge together and do a simulcast
Speaker 1: and kind of be with everyone as family and celebrate
Speaker 1: Joey's life today UM and speak about him. Um are
Speaker 1: amazing memories that we have and share some laughs, and
Speaker 1: it would only be right to all do it together.
Speaker 1: So that's why we're all here, and it would only
Speaker 1: be right to, um, you know, come together for a
Speaker 1: good thing. Let's let's do that. We're making UM everybody
Speaker 1: here on the on the Zoom podcast. I don't know
Speaker 1: what we should call it. Um, we're all going to
Speaker 1: be part of the donation to the Alzheimer's Association in
Speaker 1: memory of our beloved that gnat So you asked, Yeah,
Speaker 1: when I heard the news, UM, gosh, it was like,
Speaker 1: you know, it felt as if a family member had
Speaker 1: died in and I was so far away and I
Speaker 1: couldn't you know that feeling of it doesn't feel real.
Speaker 1: Um And Uh, it just was a really solemn day.
Speaker 1: And couldn't really explain explain the like energy that I
Speaker 1: was feeling. But it was definitely, UM, something that shook
Speaker 1: me a lot. Tory, What about you? I mean you're
Speaker 1: very close to Joe. I mean you had a lot
Speaker 1: of scenes together and stuff, and I'm sure you're very
Speaker 1: I read your thing that you run on Instagram was beautiful.
Speaker 1: How are you feeling? I was. I mean, it definitely
Speaker 1: wasn't unexpected. You know, we know he was suffering for years, um,
Speaker 1: and and that we knew this was the inevitable. Um,
Speaker 1: he was five, Um, but you still didn't want it
Speaker 1: to happen. He wanted to believe that there was more time,
Speaker 1: maybe one last hug you could get in um, something
Speaker 1: like that. So it was still really shocking, and he
Speaker 1: definitely was like a dad. He was like that fun dad.
Speaker 1: He was he I said in my Instagram post that
Speaker 1: he reminded me a lot of my dad. He was
Speaker 1: very funny and body and um but what always was
Speaker 1: a hugger and just you know, he was great. He
Speaker 1: felt old school right, like, yeah, he was the o
Speaker 1: G like he just it was old Hollywood with Joey.
Speaker 1: We just got joined by Jason. Hey, j Hi ja,
Speaker 1: Hi guys. How is everyone nice to see all your faces? Guys?
Speaker 1: See you? Yeah? I wish it was under better circumstances. Yeah,
Speaker 1: for sure, man, you were. I feel like you worked
Speaker 1: a lot with him. You had. I mean we talked
Speaker 1: about sometimes on this show, right, like the partnerships of
Speaker 1: the couples and stuff like that. But Brandon and Nat
Speaker 1: is a thing. It's just it's a it's a and
Speaker 1: you guys had a lot of chemistry. I mean, you
Speaker 1: guys worked a lot together. How how are you doing?
Speaker 1: We did? We We worked a lot together. We also
Speaker 1: spent a lot of time together outside of work. Joey
Speaker 1: and I, Joey and I were great friends, um outside
Speaker 1: of work, which which makes uh, losing him very difficult
Speaker 1: for me. Joey was Joey was a very influential guy
Speaker 1: in my in my life, in my in my young
Speaker 1: life in Hollywood. He uh, he sort of took me
Speaker 1: under his wing and you know, introduced me to a
Speaker 1: lot of a lot of a lot of people and
Speaker 1: showed being around town in a way I um that
Speaker 1: I wouldn't have had access to otherwise. Uh. You know,
Speaker 1: he was a very very you know, you know, like
Speaker 1: Jenny was saying, you know, he was very old Hollywood
Speaker 1: and he knew a lot of those old the would
Speaker 1: guys and um. And he was he was, he was,
Speaker 1: he was very Uh, he was, he was. He was
Speaker 1: a great um. He was a great sharer of his
Speaker 1: knowledge and his experiences and I will be eternally grateful
Speaker 1: to him for that. Matthew, we have Matthew Lawrence to here. Matthew,
Speaker 1: do you have any um, good Joey stories for us. Well,
Speaker 1: first of all, I've been lucky enough to see Cory
Speaker 1: and Peter lindsay you look beautiful. Jason. It's long since
Speaker 1: I've seen you. I'll tell you that. Um. But my, uh, Joey,
Speaker 1: what happened to me when I heard that? You know,
Speaker 1: we were the old people on the set. We weren't
Speaker 1: that old, but we were the old people and all
Speaker 1: of you, uh youngsters who were going through what you
Speaker 1: were going through. I think all of us that were
Speaker 1: older and more veteran felt like a responsibility to all
Speaker 1: of you. That's the family part that we're talking about.
Speaker 1: Here's the thing. Joey was one of the warmest, most
Speaker 1: wonderful people in the world, and we all know that
Speaker 1: with everybody. There wasn't a time I was on the nine.
Speaker 1: There wasn't a time on that where Joey was not
Speaker 1: hugging me or you, or laughing or introducing somebody to somebody.
Speaker 1: Not one time in the nine needs I was there.
Speaker 1: Here's the thing that destroys me. And that's why makes
Speaker 1: donations the Alzheimer's Foundation knowing this disease. It's not just Joey,
Speaker 1: it's anybody that has is this The thought that he
Speaker 1: left us not having memory, not being able to remember
Speaker 1: how much we all loved him, is the thing that
Speaker 1: breaks my heart the most. And I can't stop thinking
Speaker 1: about that. And I hope at the end he had
Speaker 1: some claverity about how much everyone absolutely adored him, that's all.
Speaker 1: I don't know what. There's part of me that wants
Speaker 1: to believe it. Yet it does take the memories away,
Speaker 1: and it affects different people differently. But there's part of
Speaker 1: me that wants to believe that in his soul he
Speaker 1: absolutely remembers hugging each of us and he felt our love. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because I think that's the case for all of us.
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter where any of us are or what
Speaker 1: any of us are going through, We're all connected on
Speaker 1: a soul level because we spent so much, really so
Speaker 1: much formative time together that we all always know and
Speaker 1: all you know, and I feel like he did too
Speaker 1: at the end. I mean, we were so blessed to
Speaker 1: have that that zoom that you put together, Pete, for
Speaker 1: all of us to be able to see him and
Speaker 1: talk to him. Was that a year about a year ago?
Speaker 1: A year ago? Yeah, and he was still like, I
Speaker 1: didn't know Joey at all. Just to be clear, you
Speaker 1: guys are the cats, and I'm again grateful to be here.
Speaker 1: But he seemed like even in that zoom, he was
Speaker 1: still really hilarious and cracking jokes with all of you
Speaker 1: and talking about things that you all knew and whatnot.
Speaker 1: He was still with it and got it right. And
Speaker 1: that was the thing about the disease at that time
Speaker 1: when we did it, he couldn't remember moment to moment
Speaker 1: that was happening there, but he remembered all of us,
Speaker 1: and he remembered the old times. When I think of Joey,
Speaker 1: I think it was old. I mean, he was a
Speaker 1: man who was filled with stories, filled with know how
Speaker 1: in history, and he had been a part of it all.
Speaker 1: He'd been around for long time. It was a really good,
Speaker 1: generous spirit. I was just thinking, like in terms of
Speaker 1: him being old Hollywood, you know, for me coming on
Speaker 1: to your show at you know, in the last three seasons,
Speaker 1: I was such a fan. And I remember, you know,
Speaker 1: meeting him first of all, did he not have the
Speaker 1: warmest smile in the world, Like it just lit up
Speaker 1: an entire room. And I remember the thing about him,
Speaker 1: the old Hollywood thing about him was that he he
Speaker 1: had a class and a sort of like, um, there's
Speaker 1: a way that sets used to run where you were
Speaker 1: grateful to be there, you know, and you and you
Speaker 1: and you welcomed everyone and you made sure everyone knew
Speaker 1: everyone else, and and there was a warmth and just
Speaker 1: a real gratitude that comes with you know, knowing how
Speaker 1: fortunate you are working in Hollywood. And it wasn't just
Speaker 1: his stories, it was just his overall feeling that um,
Speaker 1: you know, you could look to him for that life center.
Speaker 1: He was always like the center. He always respected the working.
Speaker 1: He was always totally prepared every day he came in.
Speaker 1: He knew all his lines, you know, exactly what he
Speaker 1: wanted to do. He was super prepared all the time.
Speaker 1: And you know, that's that's another like old school Hollywood
Speaker 1: um professionalism. You know. He was just always super prepared
Speaker 1: and always really ready to work every day, which was
Speaker 1: which was which was nice for all of us youngsters
Speaker 1: to see. Yeah, like what Matthew said, I think it's true,
Speaker 1: like they did sort of have that responsibility of sort
Speaker 1: of showing us the ropes if you will, you know,
Speaker 1: because we were all young and kind of figuring it
Speaker 1: out too. And I think there was a there was
Speaker 1: a lot to that because they, you know, I know,
Speaker 1: like the other adults on the cast, Like I learned
Speaker 1: so much from just being around them and watching them
Speaker 1: and hoping that that professionalism sort of like you know,
Speaker 1: leaked into my world, and I think it did. I
Speaker 1: think they had a huge impact on us and certainly Joey.
Speaker 1: Did you guys remember he would come to set every day.
Speaker 1: He was always in This is another old Hollywood thing.
Speaker 1: He would come dressed, he would have his briefcase like
Speaker 1: he looked great. Like we would all be like in
Speaker 1: sweats and our hair and mess like you know, we're
Speaker 1: gonna get into glam anyway. But he was always like
Speaker 1: dressed nicely, had his briefcase, walked in like you know.
Speaker 1: And that's another thing, like you know, it's like when
Speaker 1: they say people usould dress up to take you know, flights,
Speaker 1: It used to be a thing like that was on
Speaker 1: old Hollywood sets. They would always come dress in their
Speaker 1: own like best foot forward presentation. Yeah, it's true. I'm
Speaker 1: curious for you guys. You know, as you guys were
Speaker 1: rising in this show, it became a super juggernaut and
Speaker 1: you guys became super famous. Is Joey somebody that helped
Speaker 1: ground you guys with advice or talk you through when
Speaker 1: the world seemed like it was, you know, getting carried
Speaker 1: away in your in your lives. Was he someone that
Speaker 1: could laugh it out with you or talk to you
Speaker 1: or say, hey man, don't worry about that, or sorry,
Speaker 1: don't stress that or how did how did he handle
Speaker 1: some of that? He did for me, He gave me
Speaker 1: tons of advice, um about how to handle stuff all
Speaker 1: the time. He was very helpful UM for me personally.
Speaker 1: I don't know if he I don't know what he
Speaker 1: did for you guys, Tory, Jenny Jay, I agree with you. Yes,
Speaker 1: he was always and I feel like because we were young,
Speaker 1: we didn't know like you know, later on got to
Speaker 1: know what was happening in Joey's personal life and his struggles,
Speaker 1: but he never brought that to set. He was always
Speaker 1: more concerned about us and wanted to know what's going on,
Speaker 1: talk to me about it, and you know, he would
Speaker 1: always place his hands on my shoulders. He would bring
Speaker 1: me in. He would look me right in the eye,
Speaker 1: big smile as they talk to me and um, and
Speaker 1: he did. He would always, you know, talk about the work,
Speaker 1: talk about the personal aspect of it and what would
Speaker 1: happen and what was happening. And for like relationships I
Speaker 1: always had like bad relationships with guys, he would always
Speaker 1: know and he would always be like, you always had
Speaker 1: something going on, so I need have someone come in
Speaker 1: because I got I got connections, Like I'll do it myself. Yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: he always just made you feel better, like you could
Speaker 1: just de escalate any situation. It felt like just by
Speaker 1: looking at you and smiling and it was just you
Speaker 1: just got wrapped up in that warmth that was like,
Speaker 1: you know, uncle Joey, I don't know something about it, lindsay,
Speaker 1: I'm curious for you, like you came in late later
Speaker 1: on in the show, and that could be intimidating in
Speaker 1: its own self. What was was Joe someone like that
Speaker 1: would talk to you and make you feel like you've
Speaker 1: been there since day one. I think he I think
Speaker 1: because you know, I grew up in this business, so
Speaker 1: I had been on a bunch of sets, but this
Speaker 1: was the most intimidating one by far by bar Um
Speaker 1: and there was something about his presence that, like Jay said,
Speaker 1: like there was a professionalism. Um, there was this thing
Speaker 1: where he just like used being an actor that made
Speaker 1: me feel like, ah, I know what I'm doing because
Speaker 1: he's gonna do what I'm here to do and I'm
Speaker 1: not going to be totally freaked out that everyone here
Speaker 1: I've watched since I was a freshman in high school. Uh,
Speaker 1: and he made me feel um, extremely welcome. I think
Speaker 1: he called me kid, and I think he called me
Speaker 1: like nicknames that made me feel like I was a
Speaker 1: part of the group. You know, he was very aware
Speaker 1: of I'm sure, having watched all the comings and goings,
Speaker 1: how a person like me might have felt. So I
Speaker 1: remember him. I remember thinking he went out of his
Speaker 1: way to make me feel extremely welcome and you know, valued, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that sounds about right. I mean definitely. He also, just
Speaker 1: like I was thinking, all you were talking, lindsay that
Speaker 1: he he you could tell he loved what he did,
Speaker 1: like he loved acting. He said, how lucky are we
Speaker 1: to be doing this? That was just lucky are we?
Speaker 1: I know that we're here to talk about and I'm glad,
Speaker 1: but I feel not to be able to mention Denise
Speaker 1: and Jessica because I just I have to say, part
Speaker 1: of all of this is, and I had said this
Speaker 1: in a post, it's our family, and it's a lot
Speaker 1: of you know, there are three really important people in
Speaker 1: different ways. For sure, we've lost a lot of family lately.
Speaker 1: Jessica Klein wrote so much of the beautiful stuff that
Speaker 1: you all said, why don't we talk about her real briefly? Jenny, Jenny,
Speaker 1: I know you're very touched by all of the stuff
Speaker 1: that she wrote. She wrote, I choose me, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, she wrote some of the most important
Speaker 1: things that came through the series. Yeah, she just had
Speaker 1: that feminine sensibility that the female characters on the show
Speaker 1: really needed. And she just knew what she was doing
Speaker 1: and she knew how to do it, and there was
Speaker 1: no discussion around it, like she just took care of it,
Speaker 1: you know. And I just felt very um taken care
Speaker 1: of by her and and protected by her love for
Speaker 1: the characters that that had been created, and in her
Speaker 1: desire to keep everybody going in the right direction day.
Speaker 1: How about you? I, you know, I felt I felt
Speaker 1: a great loss when we lost Jessica. She was incredibly
Speaker 1: talented UM writer. I was incredibly likely to work with
Speaker 1: her as a show runner. UM for the years that
Speaker 1: she worked with us as as our show runner or
Speaker 1: in her unfortunately deceased ex husband Steve Um, they were
Speaker 1: they were very good for us as as shaw runners.
Speaker 1: And she was she was you know, she's also and
Speaker 1: she's also a lovely, lovely she was a lovely, lovely
Speaker 1: woman as well. Um uh uh and uh you know,
Speaker 1: you know, my my heart goes out to you know,
Speaker 1: her her surviving daughter UM and UH and her family.
Speaker 1: You know, I know that they're they're suffering, UH these days.
Speaker 1: You know, her losses felt by a lot of a
Speaker 1: lot of a lot of people. Yeah, definitely. She touched
Speaker 1: so many lives. I mean, I think our place in
Speaker 1: this world is to make a difference. She made a
Speaker 1: difference in so many people's lives. To hear them speak.
Speaker 1: It wasn't like, you know, she was a teenager. She
Speaker 1: was somebody was older and passed away, not old, but older,
Speaker 1: and yet it was there was the things that about
Speaker 1: her were so I was really moved and I didn't
Speaker 1: even know like she really believed in the idea of
Speaker 1: service and humanity. Walk. That walk was beautiful. Yeah, that
Speaker 1: was interesting to learn about all the things that she
Speaker 1: had done since the show and the impact that she
Speaker 1: had had in her faith that her you know, how
Speaker 1: she I remember who told me the story about when
Speaker 1: she came into town. I don't know. I think it
Speaker 1: was for Luke's funeral and for his service anyway, and
Speaker 1: how she was it was on on us. I don't
Speaker 1: know what is the right word gap sabbat Sabbath, right,
Speaker 1: She didn't drive, so they she stayed at a hotel
Speaker 1: close by enough that she could walk the walk through
Speaker 1: you know, nature and take that time to like really
Speaker 1: let it sink in. I thought, I don't know. There
Speaker 1: was just so many cool things that I had to
Speaker 1: learned about her after her passing that we're inspirational. She
Speaker 1: was definitely a fire, Like she was a spit fire,
Speaker 1: and I love that about her. Like we talked about
Speaker 1: nowadays like female bosses, like like, oh, you're a boss, babe.
Speaker 1: People throw that term loose around. Like back in the day,
Speaker 1: she was that. Like she was so kind and so funny,
Speaker 1: but phil was so much fire and just lead the force.
Speaker 1: Um and her daughter and I were talking after she passed,
Speaker 1: and she was like, my mom always loved She said
Speaker 1: about me that you were willing to do whatever, and
Speaker 1: she loved writing for that. And so I am so
Speaker 1: grateful to Jessica because she wrote a lot of the
Speaker 1: comedy that I got the chance to do and that
Speaker 1: was really important to me. So it meant a lot.
Speaker 1: She was amazing. It was look a voice of a
Speaker 1: generation in a in a way, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: For fans like her, her words came through to all
Speaker 1: through all of you in such a beautiful way. What
Speaker 1: about Denise. Someone just reminded me the other day that
Speaker 1: she was at Mrs Teasley was at Donna Martin's bachelorette party.
Speaker 1: That's true, And I can't wait to rewatch that episode
Speaker 1: because I did not remember that. Oh my gosh. I
Speaker 1: literally can't wait for you to watch them that the
Speaker 1: ten season I remember, and I think someone said, Wow,
Speaker 1: Donn and Martin must have been really hard up for friends.
Speaker 1: If you have to fight your your vice principal from
Speaker 1: high school to your bachelorette party. No, that's just a
Speaker 1: testament how cool she was character. You know, Felice was there,
Speaker 1: this was the bachelor rett party. Yes, and and Mrs Teasley,
Speaker 1: who can't wait. It's crazy though when you think about
Speaker 1: like the loss and we all started with, you know,
Speaker 1: when Luke passed away so suddenly, and that was so
Speaker 1: jarring and weird and just destructive, and and then to
Speaker 1: see now as other people from that experience in that
Speaker 1: world that we had pass away and and move on
Speaker 1: like I don't know, there's just like I get goose
Speaker 1: bumps talking about it, and it makes me a little
Speaker 1: emotional because sorry, guys, I love you. Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I just I said before, I fucking hate death and
Speaker 1: I hate loss, but I do I have to believe that. Um, well,
Speaker 1: I'll be together again, and I'm I'm really glad that
Speaker 1: I'll be with you guys. Sorry, Okay, it's inevitable. It's
Speaker 1: a part of life. And we have such a history
Speaker 1: and we always say this to each other while the
Speaker 1: fans can watch and be a part of our family.
Speaker 1: And that was you know, we were in everyone's home,
Speaker 1: so you are family, um when you've watched us and
Speaker 1: now listen to us. But that experience over that ten
Speaker 1: years was something that we can't ever put in words
Speaker 1: to anybody else outside of our group because it was
Speaker 1: an experience that we all shared so like a bond,
Speaker 1: and Jen and I talked about it that you know,
Speaker 1: I don't think it was a coincidence that we were
Speaker 1: all together and we all shared that experience and that journey,
Speaker 1: and that will always hold a special place for all
Speaker 1: of us involved that were shared that you know, somewhere
Speaker 1: in that tenure experience and if you believe in like
Speaker 1: heaven and everything, I don't know what anybody believes in.
Speaker 1: And I don't care. I don't even know what I
Speaker 1: believe in half the time, but I just I know
Speaker 1: the how how if it is the way they say
Speaker 1: it is that Luke was beyond elated to have Joey
Speaker 1: joined him at that party that that they're having, you know,
Speaker 1: like it made me feel like he isn't alone, you know. Yeah, well, yes,
Speaker 1: fans look at this and watch this. I mean, they're
Speaker 1: all dealing, we're all getting we all grew up together, right, Jenny.
Speaker 1: We've said that, like people feel like the fans feel
Speaker 1: like they grew up and we all grew up together.
Speaker 1: Like they're all going through your own personal sort of
Speaker 1: losing their own gnats and their own people, and it's
Speaker 1: a really challenging time relationships. Whatever they're going through, we're
Speaker 1: all at that age. We can't even believe we're at
Speaker 1: that age that it's us that we're talking about this.
Speaker 1: It sounds like other people would be having these issues,
Speaker 1: but we're all having them. I mean, for Jenny, do
Speaker 1: you have any thoughts about that? I mean, how do
Speaker 1: people how are you getting through some of these losses
Speaker 1: and whatnot? To help fans maybe in their own their
Speaker 1: own struggles. If I'm the right person to ask me,
Speaker 1: I fall apart. I'm an emotional I'm a very emotionful person. People.
Speaker 1: Some people call me emotional. I call myself emotionful because
Speaker 1: it sounds more positive. But yeah, I don't I don't
Speaker 1: know if I'm the right person to ask, you know,
Speaker 1: because you're right, like, everybody's going through stuff and it's
Speaker 1: you gotta just kind of learn to deal with it
Speaker 1: as it goes or I don't know. I mean, we'll
Speaker 1: always have memories. Like you that's when you take with you,
Speaker 1: like you have visual memories of almost like you can
Speaker 1: visualize them in your life and you remember hugging someone
Speaker 1: or being with someone, and then when they pass away,
Speaker 1: that remains. But we're so lucky that through nine two
Speaker 1: oh we literally have, you know, ten seasons of a
Speaker 1: show that is like a beautiful love letter to our
Speaker 1: entire family that the ones we are losing, we're able
Speaker 1: to see them um and and remember it that way,
Speaker 1: and the fans get to do that as well, so
Speaker 1: they're never completely gone. Yeah. I hate the endings of things.
Speaker 1: I don't like when good things end. I remember when
Speaker 1: the show ended. I hated that day. I hate I
Speaker 1: hate the ending of anything I've recently um experienced lost
Speaker 1: in my life. I lost my dad, and I feel
Speaker 1: like a lot of people of our age are losing
Speaker 1: their parents, and you know, like it just it rocks
Speaker 1: to you. But the thing that I just refused to
Speaker 1: believe is that when like you have an energy as
Speaker 1: big as a life, as a life force, but that
Speaker 1: ends the thing that I think keeps me like going
Speaker 1: and keeps me thinking, especially whether it's that our show
Speaker 1: you know, but your show was on for so long
Speaker 1: and ended, or that you know, unfortunately we lose the
Speaker 1: people love, that energy continues, and I think if you
Speaker 1: if you don't think of it as being over, it's
Speaker 1: just transitioned or changed into a different end, you know,
Speaker 1: a different who knows what it is. That sort of
Speaker 1: helps a bit. Um. It's it's not there's no easy
Speaker 1: way through it, but I think I think thinking about
Speaker 1: that energy carrying on is probably helpful that any joining
Speaker 1: the energy, right, it's just and when you love someone
Speaker 1: so much, the greed is so much greater, right, So
Speaker 1: it's like you feel grief and you feel the loss,
Speaker 1: it just means that you were lucky enough to have that,
Speaker 1: you know, love experience and We're so lucky because we
Speaker 1: get to watch the show back and be with the
Speaker 1: person as if it were all still together in that
Speaker 1: those moments in time are frozen forever, and we're so
Speaker 1: lucky to have that. And I don't know we I
Speaker 1: think we might have Chuck Rosen joining us. Is that happening?
Speaker 1: Just to dump on your point though, Jenny, like the
Speaker 1: fans also always have the show to go back to.
Speaker 1: They always have that thing. The work that you guys
Speaker 1: did is now speaking on such a deeper level because
Speaker 1: there is that place that they can go back and
Speaker 1: watch that episode where you know, not paid off Brandon's
Speaker 1: bookie or whatever it is, and live in those kinds
Speaker 1: of spaces of like, hey, this is this place. This
Speaker 1: is the where where I'm good. I can come here
Speaker 1: and I could watch this and be okay. It's like
Speaker 1: the work that you guys did in the dedication that
Speaker 1: you guys put into for all the seasons that you
Speaker 1: were there. It's just so appreciative from bands and I
Speaker 1: tried to tell you guys that as much as I can,
Speaker 1: because the work still holds up and it still means
Speaker 1: a lot to this generation and the more of the
Speaker 1: generations see it the Beverly Hills nine O two and
Speaker 1: I made a significant difference in people's lives, and um,
Speaker 1: you should all be really proud of the thing that
Speaker 1: you did, because it's still here. I'm sure. Then in
Speaker 1: season one, Jay, you were like, I don't think we're
Speaker 1: gonna get past episode seven. You know, I didn't think.
Speaker 1: I didn't think we're going to get a back nine
Speaker 1: pick up, tell you the truth. We were all surprised
Speaker 1: and we got through that first season, but it wasn't
Speaker 1: a back nine. Then, how how does it even work?
Speaker 1: We could see any episodes every season? Nine past nine
Speaker 1: is only eighteen. No, we got we got, we got
Speaker 1: the part, we got the we did the pilot, and
Speaker 1: then we got the initial twelve boarder twelve okay, and
Speaker 1: then we had to get that back not back I
Speaker 1: remember that so archaic, right, get the back nine. I've
Speaker 1: forgotten about that completely. But that math doesn't add up. Right,
Speaker 1: We did like twenty three episodes, but we also did
Speaker 1: double up, So does that mean there was like six four?
Speaker 1: But we're all over now now we're doing we were doing,
Speaker 1: we're doing thirties thirty two episodes a year. In those
Speaker 1: double episodes, years, we're doing thirty two. It was crazy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And Joey was on for all ten years. He's one
Speaker 1: of the few of us that was on for all
Speaker 1: ten years. And he was in like two hundred and
Speaker 1: I don't even know how many episodes. That was two
Speaker 1: hundred something. There's a lot, Jay, Do you remember that
Speaker 1: episode where he paid your book? Remember he paid it
Speaker 1: when he paid up Billy Vera. Yes, we just watched
Speaker 1: the least intimidating book he ever my bookie with the
Speaker 1: softest hands I've ever touched that voice, that voice, remember,
Speaker 1: I don't know which season it was. But finally Joey
Speaker 1: was added as a series regular, even though he was
Speaker 1: always a series regular to us, he wasn't contractually a
Speaker 1: series regular. And then he got to be in the
Speaker 1: opening credits. He had his own spin in. I remember
Speaker 1: that day filming that. He was so excited to be
Speaker 1: included in that. What season was that was? That was
Speaker 1: that season? Eight? Pet know, I don't I think it's
Speaker 1: I think it's sooner than that. I think he became
Speaker 1: a regular sooner than that, you guys, seven, maybe seven, eight, nine, ten,
Speaker 1: maybe eight nine times something like that. He was spinning
Speaker 1: by the time I got there, it was like season
Speaker 1: seven maybe, Uh, gab Gabriel. I just watched an episode
Speaker 1: where you had to go do a review of the
Speaker 1: peach Pit, and you're like a yelper and you're giving
Speaker 1: because it's a college thing, so you're like giving a
Speaker 1: really harsh review. But you and Joey do some some
Speaker 1: really great comedy. Was he fun to do comedy with? Garbriel?
Speaker 1: It's fun to work with. To be with Joey was
Speaker 1: be with Joy what that was really he loved with
Speaker 1: made it fun and easier. You know, sometimes work with Buddy,
Speaker 1: you just flow. I know we're being joined by Chuck now.
Speaker 1: I thought it was earlier, but now I know he's
Speaker 1: here and Larry. We have Chuck Rosen and Larry Mullen. Hi,
Speaker 1: look at you. Look at you, guys. I don't know you,
Speaker 1: but hello, nice to meet you. I can answer that
Speaker 1: because he started being a suit when you about Joey
Speaker 1: was Hi my last year and he and Tori, he
Speaker 1: was onto it. After about season three. He wanted to know,
Speaker 1: why aren't I in the credit? I only get there,
Speaker 1: you know. But eventually he convinced his friends down the
Speaker 1: hall and he in the series regular and like all
Speaker 1: you guys, and he was great that he made it
Speaker 1: and that's where he belonged. And and really hard, right,
Speaker 1: I mean you the actors, you maybe can learn it too.
Speaker 1: He was a character actor and for a character actor
Speaker 1: to get on and I was looking at his resume
Speaker 1: and he did every show of the early seventies, mid
Speaker 1: seventies Lakes, you know, just a lot of shows. But
Speaker 1: to have ten years of one character to grow and
Speaker 1: be with this was this was part of his of
Speaker 1: his lifetime. And and and that with the beauty of
Speaker 1: it is that he knew it. He was happy, you know,
Speaker 1: as you're all saying, Chuck, do you remember meeting him
Speaker 1: in the audition? Do you remember seeing him for the
Speaker 1: first time audition. I've been thinking about the audition because
Speaker 1: it was the first audition that we had. There's an
Speaker 1: episode two, Every Dream Has Its Price time they went
Speaker 1: about shoplifting and um and and we we did it
Speaker 1: on Wilshire Boulevard and Tony Shepherd. It was me and
Speaker 1: Tony Shepherd because Tony was representing your dad, Tori, and
Speaker 1: it was it had the chance to be a recurring role.
Speaker 1: We didn't know if it would because you know, but
Speaker 1: it had the chance to come back for more. And
Speaker 1: there were two actors. It's always Tony Shepherd me and
Speaker 1: to be young. Uh. There was a woman director who
Speaker 1: I actually went after, Melanie Mayron to do episodes. And
Speaker 1: she had a girlfriend and the girlfriend um was the
Speaker 1: was the director of science having a senior moment here.
Speaker 1: But she's the one my favorite thing that she did.
Speaker 1: She's the one that got you to the aerial shot
Speaker 1: with you on the bed, Jenny, so when you spun over,
Speaker 1: you know, and that was always in the credits and things.
Speaker 1: Always I was like that one the directing move she made.
Speaker 1: But like the two actors, it was Joey, but the
Speaker 1: other actors Frank Bortion, do you any of you guys
Speaker 1: know Frank the joker? Oh my gosh, my portion And
Speaker 1: Frank Ortion was a more you know, guest star worthy.
Speaker 1: He was a big name coming in. And the other woman,
Speaker 1: the woman director, was just referring to him and and
Speaker 1: and I just looked at it this way, who would
Speaker 1: I'd rather spend an afternoon with this friend of Duke
Speaker 1: Vincent's star. And you know, it was no contest, you know, Joey,
Speaker 1: It wasn't very many lines, But that sonality was what
Speaker 1: I It wasn't called that's what we needed, That's what
Speaker 1: you wanted. You wanted a place. If I was going
Speaker 1: to try to create a place where all you guys
Speaker 1: would hang out, then it would have to be a
Speaker 1: welcoming one. You didn't want somebody who had sardonic insight
Speaker 1: really run to the table. Larry, you got to work
Speaker 1: with him in the later seasons. You know, you came
Speaker 1: in season four. What what? What are some of your
Speaker 1: thoughts about about working with joe I was thinking of it.
Speaker 1: I have two major thoughts. One was the fact that
Speaker 1: writers loved Joey and we loved writing for the character
Speaker 1: of Nat. And and you know, by the fifth season,
Speaker 1: when Cindy and Jim left, there was a space to
Speaker 1: kind of develop it more. In season six, we went
Speaker 1: for it, and we we sat there in room said
Speaker 1: we're gonna give Joey a romantic storyline and and it's
Speaker 1: gonna be the one that got away. And and we
Speaker 1: mined deep into the real Joey's life, like Chuck was
Speaker 1: saying into his credits, and we found a movie he
Speaker 1: was in called On Holy Rollers. It was a Roger
Speaker 1: Corman film, a B film, and we built this whole
Speaker 1: storyline that this was gonna track the one girl that
Speaker 1: he really loved who got away, and Roger Corman him
Speaker 1: and they actually they screened the movie of the Peach
Speaker 1: Bay after Darks a special night to kind of honor
Speaker 1: Joy because the gang did not know he was an actor.
Speaker 1: And his whole story was, of course, he had that
Speaker 1: repressive father which we see in the sixties episode, who
Speaker 1: basically made him give up his acting dream. But we
Speaker 1: had this this this movie, we're gonna show it and
Speaker 1: joe and and his girlfriend from back when he's gonna
Speaker 1: show up. And we did, and Joey has kissing like
Speaker 1: everybody else, and everybody else gets involved in this relationship
Speaker 1: and they wind up getting married and having a baby,
Speaker 1: and it goes to the end of the season. And
Speaker 1: and the woman he married, who plays Joanie as a
Speaker 1: was a friend of mine, Julie Parrish. She was a
Speaker 1: wonderful gal. I don't know if you guys got to
Speaker 1: meet her. She was in Elvis movie. She was an
Speaker 1: Elvis girl, and she was a friend of mine just
Speaker 1: from a friend of a friend, because she had done
Speaker 1: Happy Days on the Vernon Shirley also really at it.
Speaker 1: But Joey could not have been happier. He met the
Speaker 1: challenge of having his own romantic storyline, and it was
Speaker 1: just it was we felt so good about it. The
Speaker 1: other thing I wanted to say was, you know we
Speaker 1: we we exploited Joey's character in a sense in season
Speaker 1: four and Schruff knows this because we had this great
Speaker 1: storyline for Dylan where he's gonna get scammed out of
Speaker 1: his money. And in the Christmas episode where it's all
Speaker 1: starting to go down and Kelly Taylor played by Jenny
Speaker 1: does not trust these people at all. It's nath who
Speaker 1: says to Dylan, come on, Dylan, it's Christmas. You have
Speaker 1: to trust people. And Dylan does and he gets scammed
Speaker 1: out of all this. He gets the worst advice I
Speaker 1: remember telling the last time I saw Joe was that
Speaker 1: zoo we had and I told the story and he
Speaker 1: had a big laugh at him, because, yeah, he had
Speaker 1: the worst for Jenny and Tory. You're doing season four,
Speaker 1: you get you're coming to it pretty soon, you'll be
Speaker 1: able to for all. You can see all that play out. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it's good stuff. You're gonna love it. Yeah, Hey, Larry,
Speaker 1: did did we screen that Roger Corman movie? Was that
Speaker 1: the episode where we did the Roger Corman Film Festival?
Speaker 1: Exactly exactly? It was? It was fade in, Fade Out
Speaker 1: is the episode. But yeah, we did that one, that's right.
Speaker 1: I remember that, and Roger came within a You got
Speaker 1: Roger Corman to do a cameo? Yes, fantastic, we did
Speaker 1: because because I because I did a Roger Corman movie.
Speaker 1: And I sent him an email and I was like, hey, Roger,
Speaker 1: I don't even remember, but I made a movie for
Speaker 1: you back in the eighties. I'm directing an episode. And
Speaker 1: he was like, yeah, sure, I'll come and do it.
Speaker 1: That's a still around God bless him. Yeah, it was
Speaker 1: really cool. Do you guys remember when we saw him
Speaker 1: at them wasn't really the peach Pit, but it was
Speaker 1: just a few years ago when they did that event
Speaker 1: um for bhop up and he came hand to the
Speaker 1: pop up and I'll never forget because Joey not Roger Corman, correct,
Speaker 1: but he you know, he he was already starting to
Speaker 1: suffer from Alzheimer's at that point, and it was we
Speaker 1: weren't sure what we were going to get and how
Speaker 1: it was gonna, you know, affect him and how it
Speaker 1: was going to go. But I just remember he was
Speaker 1: exactly the same as he always was, patting, getting a
Speaker 1: little booty pat in there, give a little extra squeeze,
Speaker 1: you know, and and and just feeling that love from
Speaker 1: Joey like it had never changed. Jen and I had
Speaker 1: the opportunity to work with him again when we did
Speaker 1: Mystery Girls in two thousand and fourteen, and that was
Speaker 1: such an honor. And that was the first time that
Speaker 1: he really divulged to us, you know, his personal struggles
Speaker 1: and what was going on, and he said, I'm so
Speaker 1: nervous and I'm not gonna be able to do it.
Speaker 1: He was Joey. He showed up like he was awesome
Speaker 1: on tape day in front of a live audience. He
Speaker 1: just flashed that smile and everybody was like, oh my crazy,
Speaker 1: oh Tory. I mean, there's an episode in the last episode,
Speaker 1: there's a great scene where you asked him to walk
Speaker 1: you down the aisle the donna does sorry I connect
Speaker 1: you to all, don't worry, But I think what's really
Speaker 1: interesting is the way you asked me. I feel like
Speaker 1: fans or when I watch back that moment. It's such
Speaker 1: a powerful moment because we want that, we want to
Speaker 1: see Nat incorporated into the end of the series in
Speaker 1: a way, and it's a really touching moment. Do you
Speaker 1: remember doing that and what was that like to shoot
Speaker 1: and do, especially at that time when the show is
Speaker 1: coming to end, right, Um, So, the writers had talked
Speaker 1: to me about it, and you know, since my dad
Speaker 1: on the show had passed away, they said, who would
Speaker 1: walk Donna down the aisle? There was an idea of
Speaker 1: police walking her my mom down the aisle, and I
Speaker 1: immediately said, are you open to Joey walk you meet
Speaker 1: down the aisle? I feel like that's the heartbreaking moment,
Speaker 1: like she lost her dad, but this is her second
Speaker 1: dad really because throughout the years, that's what he was
Speaker 1: liked everyone, that's what he became. And you know, personally,
Speaker 1: Joey and I were so close. I was like, this
Speaker 1: is a real relationship on an off camera like this
Speaker 1: would be an honor for him to actually walk me
Speaker 1: down the aisle. Um And they were excited about the
Speaker 1: idea and wrote that in so and I think we
Speaker 1: were actually because I think a lot of people were like,
Speaker 1: that's kind of weird that it was filmed at the
Speaker 1: peach Pit after dark. I think for some reason we
Speaker 1: ran out of time were so it was supposed to
Speaker 1: take place in the peach Pit, but um, they were
Speaker 1: on the set for peach after dark. We had to
Speaker 1: shuffle things around. So that's where Donna asked him. He
Speaker 1: came over and Donna asked him to walk her down
Speaker 1: the aisle there. Oh, I know, I know why. I
Speaker 1: know why you weren't in the peach Pit because they
Speaker 1: because they had struck the set. It was already gone.
Speaker 1: And I'll tell you because this is what I was doing.
Speaker 1: And yeah, I was doing a pilot for Fox at
Speaker 1: the time, a kind of a low budget. Um, you
Speaker 1: were really low bunk, even a lower budget than the
Speaker 1: first season of nine. It was and and and so
Speaker 1: I needed a set. I needed a stage, and Paul
Speaker 1: gave it to me because you were already struck it
Speaker 1: and were filming when I don't know if you guys
Speaker 1: remember this Rosen World crashed the wedding, Skaron and I
Speaker 1: and all three of my kids who really wanted to
Speaker 1: be there. We're there. We've got the pictures to prove it.
Speaker 1: And when I left the Hilton, he was at the Hilton,
Speaker 1: right the Beverly Hilton. Yeah, I drove to the back
Speaker 1: to uh our our Calvert Street and ready for the
Speaker 1: night shoot that we were doing the stage. That's how
Speaker 1: I know. But it was the peach Pit after Park
Speaker 1: where we filmed, not the original peach Pit. You just
Speaker 1: blew my mind. I did not know the peach Pits
Speaker 1: set had been struck already because that was what we
Speaker 1: had two more episodes to go or was it episode
Speaker 1: before the finale? I did a hundred three episodes the
Speaker 1: Spelling Company, I know, they don't they just okay, wipe
Speaker 1: that off the books trail. Come on. I think it's
Speaker 1: cool that it's at the after dark and it's not
Speaker 1: at the Peach but I know, maybe it makes more sense.
Speaker 1: But I like the intimate and that's not wearing his outfit.
Speaker 1: He's in he's in the street clothes and he's just
Speaker 1: having a conversation. You know, it's not you're not going
Speaker 1: to the diner to get to ask him, you know, lindsay,
Speaker 1: do you have any kind of memories of, you know,
Speaker 1: any scene work that you did with him or anything
Speaker 1: like that. I think you know, Ian and I did
Speaker 1: a lot of scenes in the peach pit when we
Speaker 1: were coming up with our schemes and plans for the
Speaker 1: tabloid that we wrote for the Beat. I don't really
Speaker 1: remember remember the specifics of the scenes, but I remember loving,
Speaker 1: you know, the moments. For me as an actor, sometimes
Speaker 1: that I remember the most are the in between the
Speaker 1: scenes and you get to go and sit in your
Speaker 1: chair with your name on it, and you get to
Speaker 1: chat with the other actors, and I have I have
Speaker 1: vivid memories of sitting with him on the stage waiting
Speaker 1: for a you know, a lightning change or you know,
Speaker 1: to hit our marks. And you know, like I said before,
Speaker 1: I just I really liked being in his presence because
Speaker 1: he was a pro, and he was funny, and he
Speaker 1: always had stories, and I just I felt, you know,
Speaker 1: happy to waste some time with him on those on
Speaker 1: those stages and dark sets. You know, we're also joined
Speaker 1: by Michael Lang. Michael's so excited to see you. Any
Speaker 1: episodes of the show did you direct, Michael No, I
Speaker 1: think twelve. I was believing obviously one of our favorites
Speaker 1: because we loved you so much. Oh my god, thank you.
Speaker 1: I always Michael. Whenever there's something that's very complicated. It
Speaker 1: seems like they're just like the multiple days, there's gonna
Speaker 1: be a lot of action. They're just going Michaelang, He'll
Speaker 1: figure it out. Yeah, I was. You guys were my
Speaker 1: favorite show. Whenever I do panels or whatever and they
Speaker 1: say what was your favorite show to work on? And
Speaker 1: I always I always say nine o two when I
Speaker 1: was was the It was the greatest show because it
Speaker 1: knew what it was and it knew what it was
Speaker 1: supposed to do, and it knew that I knew what
Speaker 1: it was and knew what it was supposed to do,
Speaker 1: and it was about things that were important to human beings. So,
Speaker 1: and you guys were also great. I mean people would say, oh,
Speaker 1: were there any stories? I would say, the only good ones.
Speaker 1: I mean, you guys were professional and always prepared and fantastic,
Speaker 1: and it was a great show to work I loved it.
Speaker 1: Do you remember, like what episode uh that stan out
Speaker 1: to you that you directed with Joey? I don't know.
Speaker 1: I mean not really because his parts were always relatively small.
Speaker 1: I mean when I remember, the most was the one
Speaker 1: with the where which we did which which had the
Speaker 1: the fair whatever with all the rides and whatever. Yes,
Speaker 1: Mr Wash Coast of Washington. Yes, exactly, Michael. I was
Speaker 1: just out. I was just out addressing the California Coastal Commission.
Speaker 1: And they meet up in the top of Malibu Canyon
Speaker 1: where where they have a meeting in and all that,
Speaker 1: And just down the road was that Suker College. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's crazy. But I actually was getting sort of thinking
Speaker 1: about today. I thought of a story about Joey that
Speaker 1: completely you know, captures him in my mind. And here
Speaker 1: it is. And first of all, he was one of
Speaker 1: the very few people they called me Mike, and it
Speaker 1: was fine with me. But uh so, I had just
Speaker 1: gotten a new car, which I was very excited about,
Speaker 1: and it had gotten a little bit dirty, and I was,
Speaker 1: you know, riding to the set. It was whatever, you know,
Speaker 1: I think it was a slightly later called, and I
Speaker 1: decided to get the car washed. So I left a
Speaker 1: little earlier. As a director, I would always get to
Speaker 1: the set a half hour before crew call always. Um
Speaker 1: So I figured, okay, I have enough time. The car
Speaker 1: wash was interminably slow, I mean ridiculous, and I'm pouring sweat.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm just so exasperated. Come on, guys. Um So, finally,
Speaker 1: you know, they get the car done, and I had
Speaker 1: like ten minutes to get there before crew call, and
Speaker 1: it was probably a nine minute drive. So I go,
Speaker 1: I'm probably driving like eighty miles an hour down Ventura Boulevard. Um,
Speaker 1: not very good. So I finally I screech up and
Speaker 1: I just parked right we were. The first scene we
Speaker 1: were shooting was in the peach bit, so I screech
Speaker 1: up and park right in front of this basically in
Speaker 1: the set. So you know, I'm the director who can't market. Said,
Speaker 1: Joey is out there right, and he know, you know,
Speaker 1: we've talked this. You know, it was probably the fifth
Speaker 1: or sixth episode, so we had talked and I'm always
Speaker 1: sort of proud that I always get there early, and
Speaker 1: so I'm sure I mentioned that. So he's out there
Speaker 1: and he's going like this right. So not only did
Speaker 1: it not bother me that he did it, which normally,
Speaker 1: like an a d ever did that to me, I
Speaker 1: would throw them off the set, but like, it's Joey,
Speaker 1: So how can you get mad at this guy? And
Speaker 1: he's right? So I jumped out of the car. He
Speaker 1: had already gotten all the actors assembled right and and
Speaker 1: made sure, you know, I think I might have called
Speaker 1: the a D to say I might. It's gonna be
Speaker 1: pretty close anyway, And he was just so sweet about
Speaker 1: it and just you know, he did that sort of
Speaker 1: fake thing. It was just such a memorable moment of
Speaker 1: him and how he could just sort of he could
Speaker 1: just be He was such a you know, like an
Speaker 1: authentic person. He was a great guy, really great guy.
Speaker 1: And I hadn't had that memory until you know this.
Speaker 1: It was pretty cool. We we've talked a lot of
Speaker 1: business and onset about Joey. We haven't talked um offset
Speaker 1: with Joey. But I was lucky enough to be able
Speaker 1: to go to quite a few Playboy Mansion parties with
Speaker 1: Joey talk yes, and he was he was like the
Speaker 1: life of the party, Like he was the king there,
Speaker 1: Like he was friends with half. He was old Hollywood, right,
Speaker 1: so you know he was there and he was always
Speaker 1: so respected there. So I just have those memories and
Speaker 1: being able to go and be like, oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: like not like Donna drunk at prom, Donna drunk in
Speaker 1: the Playboy Mansion with nat omg. You know, we just
Speaker 1: always had the best times. And yeah, that was always
Speaker 1: a standout and I know, jenn and I have mentioned
Speaker 1: on the show, like we always look forward to like
Speaker 1: late nights. We'd be filming with the group Friday night,
Speaker 1: and you know sometimes we put in plastic cubs and like, sorry, Chuck,
Speaker 1: Larry and and Michael, you shouldn't be listening to this,
Speaker 1: but you know, we'd have some alcoholic beverage. It was
Speaker 1: like nighttime. We'd have one big group scene. We each
Speaker 1: had like one line and then we're like we're okay, um.
Speaker 1: But Joey and that infamous briefcase that he had would
Speaker 1: pop it open. Always had like little mini bottles. He'd
Speaker 1: have like a makeshift bar in there. This is after
Speaker 1: we were all legal. But like, yeah, we could go
Speaker 1: and be like, O great, yeah we'll have some. So
Speaker 1: like Joey's room was like the fun room to go into.
Speaker 1: You know, he just should have come it. You guys
Speaker 1: were on the set doing that. You could have come
Speaker 1: into Paul's office about then it would be no m
Speaker 1: Joey always had that too available, But you know I didn't.
Speaker 1: I didn't want to call everyone out. Okay, wait, so
Speaker 1: you're saying we could have merged parties between us. Jenny,
Speaker 1: did you get to go to any of those kind
Speaker 1: of cool parties with with with Joe I didn't I
Speaker 1: think I was having a baby or something. You don't
Speaker 1: really want to hang out at the Playboy Mansion when
Speaker 1: you're like eight months pregnant, fair enough? Yeah, um, you
Speaker 1: did get to have a couple of experiences, though it's
Speaker 1: some rap parties with him. Like we we definitely like
Speaker 1: had fun with him at rat parties. Oh yeah, he's
Speaker 1: the guy we wanted to hang out with him. Like, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it wasn't weird at all that he was a lot
Speaker 1: older than us. No, not at all. He was so fun.
Speaker 1: That's why I felt it was important to bring up
Speaker 1: that part of it too. While he was like someone
Speaker 1: we definitely looked up to on said, he was so
Speaker 1: professional and so kind and helped us with our personal problems,
Speaker 1: Like he also was like that fun guy to go
Speaker 1: out with and it was like no age difference. Yeah, wait, Lynce,
Speaker 1: did we ever go out with Joey? I was just
Speaker 1: trying to think. I was like, was he with us
Speaker 1: that night at the sushi restaurant when I fell off
Speaker 1: the table and pulled the pot of plant out of
Speaker 1: the thing. Don't believe he was to hear that story.
Speaker 1: I know, I don't care if he was there or not.
Speaker 1: And also, by the way, I didn't know you guys
Speaker 1: had brief cases of bottles of things on the set.
Speaker 1: You didn't let me in on that until I think
Speaker 1: you're back. Well, maybe around the time of the Donna's
Speaker 1: bachelorette party and Mrs Teasley was there and just to
Speaker 1: come like full circle and you and we had real,
Speaker 1: like lives jello shots. We had jello shots. I know
Speaker 1: it was not a little this I know imber party,
Speaker 1: but I don't have no idea I was being honored.
Speaker 1: I don't remember, okay, good and I remember everything trying
Speaker 1: to save my line like it was probably who made
Speaker 1: jello shots? You did? I did? I made him. I
Speaker 1: want this so much. Someone made jello shots, but it
Speaker 1: wasn't probably it sounds like something you would do it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: of course. I just want to give Larry and Chuck
Speaker 1: a chance to talk about Denise and Jessica too, because
Speaker 1: we had talked about them earlier, and of course you
Speaker 1: both worked obviously with Jessica. You worked side by side
Speaker 1: with her through the years. Chuck, do you want to
Speaker 1: talk about Jessica Klein? Yeah, you know, we had gets Gabby,
Speaker 1: he's not not here. We did remember the other girls.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you I think you both talked
Speaker 1: to him. You know, the girls did the Blaze podcast
Speaker 1: and were they they staged a show when we really
Speaker 1: did the Donna Martin Graduates episode at the Fine Arts
Speaker 1: Theater in front of like eight hundred people, and I
Speaker 1: played that insufferable superintendent. And Denise Dallas was in it.
Speaker 1: She played Mrs Teasley and and you know, and and
Speaker 1: uh and in any way, um, that's it was so
Speaker 1: much fun because, you know, as Pete knows a little bit,
Speaker 1: you guys got to hang out on the set with
Speaker 1: Larry and I. We were in the writer's room or
Speaker 1: I'm talking production with our director friends like Mike Goland
Speaker 1: and Dan Addis and whoever else. And so, I you know,
Speaker 1: wasn't able, you know, to to actually even know the
Speaker 1: kind of regular and and we're with us until we
Speaker 1: did this podcast here and having that great experience getting
Speaker 1: to work with her as an actor, for God's sakes,
Speaker 1: you know, so and uh and Jessica, I mean, I
Speaker 1: don't think that. I mean, and we've talked about this
Speaker 1: in our podcast, you know, I don't know if you
Speaker 1: guys felt this, if you've talked about it ever, you know,
Speaker 1: Darren announces he's doing another series, and why don't you
Speaker 1: just yank out my heart? You know, I mean, he
Speaker 1: was a huge part of the production and what are
Speaker 1: we gonna do? How what do we? And and Steve
Speaker 1: and Jessica and I and Karen really resolved to make
Speaker 1: season three the best one we could possibly do without him.
Speaker 1: And so you know that was Jessica, That was that
Speaker 1: was That was a full major year, you guys know
Speaker 1: it from going to Paris to the Triangle car blowing
Speaker 1: up to graduation. What a thing. And you know, so
Speaker 1: that Jessica and Steve were there every minute of that
Speaker 1: and Mr Hot and was really comforted to see you
Speaker 1: there that day, Jenny. I gotta say though, real quick,
Speaker 1: sorry that to date, we hear this all the time.
Speaker 1: Season three is by far the fan fave season. Pete,
Speaker 1: are we wrong? Everybody? Does? I actually like season four more?
Speaker 1: But that's just me. I'm sorry. I don't need to
Speaker 1: put my way my thoughts in. But season three and
Speaker 1: three and four, that's what everyone says. Yeah, season four
Speaker 1: had Mullen. You know, it's pretty hard to stop that.
Speaker 1: Larry Mullen, Right, yes, Larry, do you want to weigh
Speaker 1: in on Jessica? You know, you know, I came in
Speaker 1: in season four, so Jessica and Steve was at the
Speaker 1: height of their powers, and uh, you know, Jessica was really,
Speaker 1: really bright, and you know, she understood how to frame
Speaker 1: his story and she was basically we've talked about the poor,
Speaker 1: but she was the go to person to pitch the
Speaker 1: story to, you know, to Mr Spelling, you know, because
Speaker 1: that's a you know, a terrifying aspect. We got it.
Speaker 1: Now we've done all this work, We've gotta not present
Speaker 1: the stories to Mr Spelling. Of course he wants to
Speaker 1: know what Donna is doing first, but she knew that,
Speaker 1: she knew to do that. But but now it's all
Speaker 1: our all our our our goodies are in her, you know,
Speaker 1: in her in her bag basic and she would always
Speaker 1: do it. She would be brilliant at it, and that
Speaker 1: that was her strong thing. The other thing, you know,
Speaker 1: se her were there. She was the typest. Yeah. Also
Speaker 1: the network too, and the network you weren't friendly house. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they were ready to oh, that one's not gonna work.
Speaker 1: So you know, we had and she was great at that,
Speaker 1: you know, she had a great grasp and it's just
Speaker 1: it's it's tragic because she was young, you know. I
Speaker 1: mean it's kind of upsetting, you know, but we loved it.
Speaker 1: We got a chance to you know, we had to
Speaker 1: chance to kind of reunite with her and all the
Speaker 1: other people with her too over the last day a
Speaker 1: couple of years. So you know, there's that Wow, this
Speaker 1: is so nice to get together and talk about Joey
Speaker 1: and Jessica, Denise. It's it's good. Oh, Chuck, we have
Speaker 1: a question for you about Denise because we were trying
Speaker 1: to figure this out. So how did the role of
Speaker 1: Mrs Teasley because originally we saw she was in it
Speaker 1: as she was with the twins, the twin testing that
Speaker 1: episode or something right, as someone else, and then she
Speaker 1: came back as Mrs Teasley? How did that work? And
Speaker 1: did you plan on her being recurring? I mean that
Speaker 1: part grew and grew and grew. Was that because of
Speaker 1: her personality or how did that come about? Yes? Yes,
Speaker 1: it actually was Tori. She she you know, and I
Speaker 1: had to be reminded of that, but it was you know,
Speaker 1: every once in a while, Um, Diane Young would come
Speaker 1: in and say, remember this actress did only this part
Speaker 1: and you really liked her, and she did well, and
Speaker 1: she would like to come back. And I think that's
Speaker 1: that's what it was. She wanted to do it, and
Speaker 1: we knew and you know, with it with with Denise
Speaker 1: is quality. Particularly then she's being and very much like
Speaker 1: Karen and my French Um the Janice who who was
Speaker 1: the real life Mrs Teasley that was her last name
Speaker 1: was Teesley. And and but anyway, uh, and we know
Speaker 1: well well, but also I don't really lovely speaking points
Speaker 1: and you know, with the principles in a lot of
Speaker 1: the different schools, you know, there's assemblies, and it's the person.
Speaker 1: We knew she'd have great commands and um, and we
Speaker 1: were you know, and I'm not ashamed to say this
Speaker 1: at this point. You know, we we weren't just like
Speaker 1: we had Henry at the Beach Club and Denise. We
Speaker 1: we knew, you know, here on our main cast we
Speaker 1: didn't have people of color, so we also really looked
Speaker 1: to bolster that and he became such good friends of
Speaker 1: the show and and of all of you. Clearly, Yeah, hi, Karen,
Speaker 1: Karen Rosen, you were just talking about Denise. But you
Speaker 1: know what, if you remember this isn't for Joey. God
Speaker 1: he was. He was always very nice to me. I
Speaker 1: think the ladies will remember this. And I think I
Speaker 1: speak for Jessica. I love a salam um that he
Speaker 1: was kind of flirty, you know, he was like um
Speaker 1: and such diplomatic. It was like a rap party or
Speaker 1: you know, something where there was alcohol available. You know,
Speaker 1: then I would be sure to have a long conversation
Speaker 1: with with Joey, very close, very close quarters, a long conversation.
Speaker 1: And you know, he never acted disappointed in the outcome.
Speaker 1: But you know, I think he was. I think he was.
Speaker 1: He was very friendly, let me just say that. But
Speaker 1: we loved him. He was great. He was. It was,
Speaker 1: you know, a pro, a veteran actor. Great to have
Speaker 1: with the young folks. And it was fun to write
Speaker 1: for now. It was fun to write for him, you
Speaker 1: know what I was thinking relative to Karen with are
Speaker 1: writing for Joey, and and it was one that was
Speaker 1: so important. And when when when Brenda, when we did
Speaker 1: Brenda go to the peach pit and be Laverne, you know,
Speaker 1: which was a crazy notion to have her dress off
Speaker 1: and be that character and One of the reasons it
Speaker 1: worked is because Joey was, you know, as the owner
Speaker 1: of it, wasn't Paul. He just went with it. Oh
Speaker 1: here's this crazy kid doing it, and and going and
Speaker 1: sometimes looking back at that episode and you guys doing
Speaker 1: your I think you were the choreographer of that tory
Speaker 1: of of breaking up as hard to do whatever you
Speaker 1: were doing that did that one in there at least
Speaker 1: bringing up that was a different one. But um, anyway,
Speaker 1: you know that light quality that that he could bring,
Speaker 1: that he made it a place you wanted. You wanted
Speaker 1: to be in the peach pit. You wanted it was
Speaker 1: our version of cheers, everyone knows your name, you know
Speaker 1: kind of thing. It was also a spot where they
Speaker 1: would freaklent. That was one of the places we could
Speaker 1: sometime to have a hole cast scene in the peach
Speaker 1: pit or multiples a lot of people in there, and
Speaker 1: those were I was just saying this to somebody else
Speaker 1: this morning, that when the whole gang got together, everyone's
Speaker 1: individual I'm just gonna say star quality. Their charisma was
Speaker 1: magnified and amplified by being all together, and it was
Speaker 1: like more than the sum of its parts. And it
Speaker 1: was fun, really fun to watch, you know, in person
Speaker 1: on the set, I just felt very privileged when I
Speaker 1: was that um and then teach it was one of
Speaker 1: those locations where it was. But that's that episode with Leburn.
Speaker 1: That's an example of one that the network didn't I
Speaker 1: didn't care about so much, but the fans really loved,
Speaker 1: and Joey would always tell me that that was their
Speaker 1: favorite episode. They would come up to people would tell
Speaker 1: him that was my shavorite, so he would always give
Speaker 1: me that compliment. Always very sweet to me. Um Yeah,
Speaker 1: non really to Jenny Tory lindsay, did you guys ever
Speaker 1: eat a mega burger? What is that? What is Oh
Speaker 1: my gosh, you just read my mind. I was literally
Speaker 1: just thinking about omega burger. Well, I mean I would
Speaker 1: love to have one. I don't know where I would
Speaker 1: get that, but but but did you get it? You
Speaker 1: can get it from Fat Burger. That's where we got it. Okay,
Speaker 1: so I'm going to go to Fat Burger. They would
Speaker 1: literally pick up Fat Burger that morning and plate them. Yep,
Speaker 1: that's a mega Fat Burger. Ken would have done that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but you can't think of the peach Pit without thinking
Speaker 1: of Nat like they're one and the same they go
Speaker 1: down in history together and that the uniform and it's
Speaker 1: this remarkable what an impact that character did have on
Speaker 1: the whole, like you know, sphere of the show and
Speaker 1: how big it was. But it always came back to
Speaker 1: everybody knows the peach pit. Everybody knows Nat Yeah, Chuck,
Speaker 1: who named it the peach pit? I believe it was
Speaker 1: Charles right, which because it was after the Apple Pan.
Speaker 1: That's how I remember and why the peach pit was
Speaker 1: that in honor of the apple po it was the
Speaker 1: apple Okay. In fact, when they told them this is
Speaker 1: what we were basing it on the location, people, I went,
Speaker 1: I looked at it, and they built it on the
Speaker 1: set the same way, with no tables because doesn't happy
Speaker 1: just the counter? Yeah, and then they had to add
Speaker 1: the tables. Yeah, because well, everybody was very happy when
Speaker 1: we just built the counter because that's all we could
Speaker 1: afford to build. And white peaches who picked peaches who
Speaker 1: like the peaches, well, Apple Pan, peach pitch. You know,
Speaker 1: it just came to him in a moment of if
Speaker 1: I could get inside the mind of a writer, I
Speaker 1: would love it because that this doesn't come to my mind.
Speaker 1: Apple Pan Larry talked about Larry my mind, be careful.
Speaker 1: You know, there's something should talk about. Didn't Joey have
Speaker 1: this plan to franchise the Peach picture, Yes, and I
Speaker 1: think it was one of the you know, he never
Speaker 1: really got it going. I know, it really haunted him
Speaker 1: a lot of ways because it ran just some problems.
Speaker 1: But that was kind of going for a while in
Speaker 1: the middle seasons. He was gonna have this thing and
Speaker 1: all over the world. Yeah, I think Iron was Wasn't
Speaker 1: Iron involved with that whole idea? You maybe you know
Speaker 1: who it was, the you know the guy, Yeah, the
Speaker 1: guy whoa his buddy. The rat pack was their deal.
Speaker 1: I want to switch because Carol Potter has joined us
Speaker 1: here as well. Cal Hello everybody, you see all your
Speaker 1: faces YouTube, Jenny h He's all shared some really great
Speaker 1: stories about Joey and just our memories of him. Would
Speaker 1: you like to share with us? Yeah, he had a
Speaker 1: lot of stories too, he was I had had a
Speaker 1: lot of stories. But you know, during the show, we
Speaker 1: didn't um we the parents didn't hang out at the
Speaker 1: Peach bit, surprisingly, but I ran into him at a
Speaker 1: at a benefit. This woman who had a terrible experience
Speaker 1: with lyme disease and nine O two on oh was
Speaker 1: one of the things that helped her get through. And
Speaker 1: Joey happened to be there, and so we we had
Speaker 1: a great time and did another Yeah yeah remember that
Speaker 1: very interesting, And then we did another. We went to
Speaker 1: New Jersey for one of those um celebrity confidence things
Speaker 1: and um it was you know, those things can be
Speaker 1: so so wearing. But it was great to have him
Speaker 1: there and we could just bounce stuff off of one
Speaker 1: another and was good company. Um. And what a devoted father.
Speaker 1: I mean he talked about his daughter all all the time.
Speaker 1: His world just revolved around her. She was Kelly was
Speaker 1: basically raised on the set of nine O two and
Speaker 1: now his daughter. She was always there growing up. I
Speaker 1: had forgotten that that's true. I remember now she was
Speaker 1: little when we met her, little little. He was crazy
Speaker 1: about her. Yeah. How old was she when when the
Speaker 1: show started? Oh my gosh, gosh, how under ten? I
Speaker 1: don't have yeah, definitely like yeah wow. Speaking of the
Speaker 1: peach fit, I had a really weird, like meta meta
Speaker 1: moment when my kids um school fundraiser this year. The
Speaker 1: theme was nine ohs oh for nine, which was the
Speaker 1: zip code of the school and it was a nine
Speaker 1: two themed fundraiser and I had to go to the
Speaker 1: fundraiser and everyone it's just like, you know, there were
Speaker 1: just a lot of nats. There are a lot of
Speaker 1: nats there, and just tell you that did you dress
Speaker 1: this Janet? Well, my husband wanted to be Steve, and
Speaker 1: who's like, just go as you and I don't know,
Speaker 1: I don't know how to nail this. No, that's a
Speaker 1: really good idea. Yeah, And I don't even know if
Speaker 1: half the moms knew I ever saw on the show,
Speaker 1: but I wanted I was Berda and my my blonde
Speaker 1: friend was was Kelly, and we wore the same prom dress.
Speaker 1: I want to see that. That's great. I think Jason
Speaker 1: had his daughter had a thing where she had a dress,
Speaker 1: a dance, yeah, dance and nine theme dance at her
Speaker 1: school too. She's probably really popular that night. And yeah,
Speaker 1: there are pictures of her dad there. So crazy. And
Speaker 1: the point to makeup, just to mention, is that in
Speaker 1: the various stages of nine two that came back, they
Speaker 1: always brought Nat back. Right in the in the Little
Speaker 1: w version, they brought Nat back and he had some
Speaker 1: like coffee shop, peach pit which is just really bizarre.
Speaker 1: But but he was there. I mean, so did you
Speaker 1: get to reconnect with him, Jenny when you when you
Speaker 1: did that, I wasn't on that. You weren't on that.
Speaker 1: She's joking, No, I'm joking. He wasn't on it when
Speaker 1: I was on it. I was only on it for
Speaker 1: how many episodes? Two? Just like three? I think it
Speaker 1: is an inside joke that we were talking about the
Speaker 1: c W version and Jen was like, well, I don't
Speaker 1: remember that much. I was only on three episodes. I
Speaker 1: was like, I'm telling you, you were on a lot
Speaker 1: of them. And then we googled it together and she
Speaker 1: was on twenty two episodes. I was gonna say, like character, yeah, piotal.
Speaker 1: She probably wasn't on the episode. Was he only in
Speaker 1: one episode? I think it was on one episode. That's
Speaker 1: so cool though, that they did that. You know, I
Speaker 1: wouldn't I don't would have remembered seeing him there, and
Speaker 1: we would have absolutely, of course had him on b
Speaker 1: H nine O two and oh, but we knew, you know,
Speaker 1: he was already diagnosed with Alzheimer's and suffering, and when
Speaker 1: we saw him at the peach Pit at the pop
Speaker 1: up afterwards, he in fact said to us, you know,
Speaker 1: I want I want to be on it. We're like
Speaker 1: second season. If it goes a second season, of course
Speaker 1: you're going to be on it. And then it didn't. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it should be. There should have been a second season. Sorry,
Speaker 1: I had to tell you. Can I just pipe in
Speaker 1: and say to you girls, you did such a perfect job.
Speaker 1: I thought you did this, Thank you. It was so
Speaker 1: clever and so well done. We had fun, right, Carol,
Speaker 1: that was That was my best day of filming in
Speaker 1: my entire career. Oh my god, we had so much
Speaker 1: fun that that was such a great day. It was
Speaker 1: so nice that Jason was directing and we basically were
Speaker 1: just hanging out together all day on the set, right
Speaker 1: because we're all sitting there, there was barely of any blocking. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Carol played our theory, and there was such a different
Speaker 1: experience than being like teenagers on set and in our minds,
Speaker 1: you know, Carol was the parents, and now it was
Speaker 1: like we were all peers and we were sitting there
Speaker 1: and we got to know Carol on a different level.
Speaker 1: We're like, oh my god, what were we missing all
Speaker 1: these years. You're so funny, You're so cool, Like we
Speaker 1: should have been hanging out with you. Well, I was
Speaker 1: just it was thrilled to hang out with adults. You
Speaker 1: guys become um, you know, that's very special. That's very special.
Speaker 1: Thank you. And Joey actually got to see a lot
Speaker 1: more of that, didn't he, Because he was on the
Speaker 1: whole ten years, wasn't he. So he got to be
Speaker 1: with you as you sort of grew into more of
Speaker 1: an adulthood, right, and all of us kind of we
Speaker 1: were always all at the peach pits, so he got
Speaker 1: to be with all of us all the time, which
Speaker 1: one you didn't really get to have that. Well, we
Speaker 1: had you in the living room, living room, and of
Speaker 1: course there's a last episode of season one, you know,
Speaker 1: going away late Ye that parents were there, came to
Speaker 1: the peach right, that's right. So yes, occasionally we showed
Speaker 1: up at the peach bit and wait the second you Carol,
Speaker 1: But you know remember the episode where house um, where
Speaker 1: Jane were went to the cam all karaoke client put
Speaker 1: the karaoke machine. Everybody that was early karaoke there was,
Speaker 1: you know in the United States and you got guys
Speaker 1: were doing it down in Koreatown a lot. You you
Speaker 1: were cutting edge on the karaoke scene. They're cutting edge
Speaker 1: on everything. By the way, really we talk on our
Speaker 1: podcast all the time about nine O, two and O
Speaker 1: the stories everything connected to it, um, talking about the
Speaker 1: environment even back then, like it was all so like
Speaker 1: cutting edge of what would like end up you know,
Speaker 1: being huge now that everyone talks about the topical you know,
Speaker 1: issues we dealt with. Well even so, the one thing is, Michael,
Speaker 1: this is more for you. Um. We saw this episode,
Speaker 1: second one we did with uh when the Joey got casting.
Speaker 1: In fact, um, it had to do with shoplifting. And
Speaker 1: I'm looking at I haven't seen it since its air.
Speaker 1: That pet confirmed this. There's a whole passage they started
Speaker 1: the girls are sitting around talking about white privilege in
Speaker 1: talking Wow. So you know it was like we really
Speaker 1: were in some of this cutting edge uh political discourse here.
Speaker 1: That's that's pretty amazing. I think I need to go
Speaker 1: watch it again. Now. That was the second episode chup,
Speaker 1: not after the pilot, but the second season. First when
Speaker 1: you met Dylan, then I guess the second one you
Speaker 1: met Nat and you know when James and I whenever
Speaker 1: there was like an adult on the set usually glombed
Speaker 1: onto the adult like really connecting with Joey in that.
Speaker 1: In that episode, we talked about sometimes on OMG, we
Speaker 1: talked about how the things that are show got some
Speaker 1: of the things that are show got away with, saying
Speaker 1: that you can never get away with Oh my god. Yes,
Speaker 1: they stick out like red flags now, like things that
Speaker 1: people would just freak out about these days. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: it's interesting to see how how we got away with
Speaker 1: it and how wasn't it wasn't such a topic of
Speaker 1: conversation back then. Well, it's it's really interesting. You know.
Speaker 1: I taught for a couple of years of U C
Speaker 1: l A. And I wanted to do like a history
Speaker 1: of network programming, and I started, I want to see
Speaker 1: if I could get a shook class like that together.
Speaker 1: And one of my favorite shows of all time, Karen
Speaker 1: Knows It's his Hill Street Blues. Nobody had ever seen
Speaker 1: anything like Hill Street Blues when it first aired, and
Speaker 1: today it is unwatchable. It is so sexist and racist
Speaker 1: and vile. And we were sitting there with the director,
Speaker 1: a fine man named Bob Butler, a really classy individual.
Speaker 1: I actually did a pilot with him for ABC at
Speaker 1: one point and really enjoyed the experience. Immensely and he
Speaker 1: was embarrassed, like like turn it off. It was it
Speaker 1: was a different country and we got away with a
Speaker 1: lot of stuff. Yeah, this has been great, guys, catching
Speaker 1: up and seeing all of you and reliving this stuff.
Speaker 1: You know, I mean this all three people that I've gotten.
Speaker 1: I got to know Jessica. We had Denis on our
Speaker 1: podcast too, and and we did that zoom with with
Speaker 1: Joey and it was really it's been just great to
Speaker 1: be part of this universe. And I know as a fan,
Speaker 1: like as I said to you guys earlier, like you
Speaker 1: really made a difference in your work. And um, I
Speaker 1: think a lot of people are looking for a place
Speaker 1: to go right now when they're dealing with their own
Speaker 1: loss and whatnot. And the fact that they have Beverly
Speaker 1: Hills Nino too and what we were just talking about
Speaker 1: is so important because it's a place that is always
Speaker 1: there for them. So um, it's it's really beautiful. What
Speaker 1: you guys did in this conversation has been really awesome too. Yeah. Well, Pete,
Speaker 1: we have to say thank you to you also for
Speaker 1: bringing a soul back together. I mean this has led
Speaker 1: me to appreciate this whole experience on a whole other level.
Speaker 1: I mean getting to know people again. Yeah, thank yeah, well,
Speaker 1: thank you Pete. We also have a message UM that
Speaker 1: was recorded from Brian Austin green Um talking about Joey,
Speaker 1: So we want to go to that now. Joey was
Speaker 1: around the entire time. He was He was one of
Speaker 1: the main voices on the show. I mean, he was
Speaker 1: the He was definitely um a heart and soul and
Speaker 1: what it is we did, and and fans really looked
Speaker 1: forward to seeing him and seeing seeing the moments that
Speaker 1: he was in, and he brought so much light to
Speaker 1: to what we did. UM. Our show was a teenage
Speaker 1: drama and and and the character of Nat wasn't necessarily
Speaker 1: a part of that drama. He was He was the
Speaker 1: the joy and the escape I think for people watching
Speaker 1: the show, UM, just because they had that chance to
Speaker 1: then get away and sort of laugh with him and
Speaker 1: smile with him. He had such a great energy to him,
Speaker 1: and he readiated so much love and enjoy that you
Speaker 1: couldn't help but smile when you saw him or you
Speaker 1: were around him. Personally, he was. He was an amazing man.
Speaker 1: He really was. Uh. Denise Dows same thing. She she
Speaker 1: was fantastic. Um. She was so professional when she got
Speaker 1: to set. She was so kind, she was so generous. UM.
Speaker 1: And then Jessica, I mean, she's what a force she
Speaker 1: was in She was in every episode just writing her
Speaker 1: heart out. And she was so good at listening to
Speaker 1: all the actors that were there and whatever notes they
Speaker 1: had and whatever thoughts they had and incorporating them, um
Speaker 1: without letting us uh mess it up, you know, which
Speaker 1: which is an easy that's an easy thing to do.
Speaker 1: I mean you get a bunch of kids in there
Speaker 1: who all of a sudden think they're awesome, and then
Speaker 1: you know, they're like, oh, I can write a script,
Speaker 1: and it's like you can't. Yeah, it's definitely not that easy. Um.
Speaker 1: Joey was. Joey was one of those guys though that
Speaker 1: no matter what was going on in his life, he
Speaker 1: would he would share it openly. But he was very optimistic.
Speaker 1: He Um. He never ever brought things to set with
Speaker 1: a sense of woe is me? What am I gonna do? Um?
Speaker 1: You know I need fifteen to step off set and
Speaker 1: go do like he just he would just sort of
Speaker 1: rise above everything and uh and smile through it all.
Speaker 1: And he was really positive in the way that he
Speaker 1: dealt with life, and then for us as a as
Speaker 1: a young cast, I think it was just so helpful
Speaker 1: having someone as seasoned as he was and as kind
Speaker 1: and as thoughtful as he was, uh, that that we
Speaker 1: saw every single week. I mean we were we were
Speaker 1: in the peach pit almost every episode of of you know,
Speaker 1: ten years of the show. He um. So, I I
Speaker 1: had no idea who he was. I had no idea
Speaker 1: who Aaron Spelling was. I was like, I was young.
Speaker 1: I was really outside of the world of television at
Speaker 1: that point, you know, I was. I just didn't I
Speaker 1: didn't know all the ins and outs and the connections
Speaker 1: and all the people that had done it. Um, Joey was.
Speaker 1: Joey was honestly, amazingly kind from the very beginning. He
Speaker 1: was never anything but loving and sweet. He never uh,
Speaker 1: he never had a sense of like, you know, hey kid,
Speaker 1: let me show you how to do this. You know.
Speaker 1: He he always spoke, which I really appreciated. He really
Speaker 1: spoke from a place of this is what I've experienced, um,
Speaker 1: but it may not be what you experienced. So you know,
Speaker 1: it's you've got to make your own choices, and you
Speaker 1: you have to love your own life and you have
Speaker 1: to find your own way through it. I can. He
Speaker 1: would help whenever he could. He would sort of take
Speaker 1: your hand and guide you through it a little bit.
Speaker 1: But he was never, um, he was never BOSSI He
Speaker 1: was never never that guy that was like, I've done
Speaker 1: all this and you know my way is the right
Speaker 1: way now, because I've lived at all. And he lived.
Speaker 1: He had lived a long life at that point. I
Speaker 1: mean he was when we started, he had done a
Speaker 1: lot of stuff. He had been in the business for
Speaker 1: a while. He had worked with a lot of people. Um.
Speaker 1: I mean if for fans of his, if they go
Speaker 1: back through his body of work and go back through
Speaker 1: his IMDb page, it's literally it's like he's it's a
Speaker 1: who's who of people that you've ever heard of, and
Speaker 1: Joey has worked with all of them, I mean just
Speaker 1: every single person. Um. But he was amazing. He made
Speaker 1: He just brought so much life to what to what
Speaker 1: he was given. It wasn't he wasn't necessarily written the
Speaker 1: best stuff. I mean he was you know, he was
Speaker 1: the guy that owned the peach pitt And so we
Speaker 1: would in sometimes and he had very repetitive you know,
Speaker 1: Mega Burger to Mega Burgers. But you know it's like
Speaker 1: it was sort of yeah, it was started the same stuff.
Speaker 1: We're going vanilla today, are we going? We think it
Speaker 1: with Strawberry um uh, the Peach Prize fresh um. So uh.
Speaker 1: You know, he didn't have a lot to work with
Speaker 1: sometimes and he uh and it never showed. He never
Speaker 1: he never complained about it. He never was on set
Speaker 1: going I can't believe what I'm saying this again. He
Speaker 1: just every single take, every single run, was just the
Speaker 1: consummate professional um. And he was just a great guide
Speaker 1: for I felt for a young actor like myself to
Speaker 1: um to aspire to be on some moveel. I mean
Speaker 1: he really he really set the tone for me of
Speaker 1: he and and Luke really set the tone for me
Speaker 1: of the type of person, the type of life that
Speaker 1: I wanted to live in, the type of person that
Speaker 1: I wanted to be no matter what was going on
Speaker 1: in life. And he was. He was an amazing man.
Speaker 1: It's so interesting to see how we all have the
Speaker 1: same perspective. We all had our own separate experiences with
Speaker 1: Joey and with Jessica, and with Denise and with Luke,
Speaker 1: but we but everybody's stories are somehow we've together the
Speaker 1: same and that's how you know that you're dealing with
Speaker 1: just a really genuine, authentic person Um and we're all
Speaker 1: so blessed to know him and work with him. And
Speaker 1: it's just been an honor getting together with all of
Speaker 1: you and talking about him today. It makes it feel
Speaker 1: better somehow to get to share our stories and remember
Speaker 1: together and his memory and his memory goes on through
Speaker 1: our stories and our shared experiences, and that when people
Speaker 1: a past, that keeps them alive, right because we'll always
Speaker 1: talk about what they meant to us and be able
Speaker 1: to rehash things and they're just it's just like they're
Speaker 1: right there with you again. Yeah, thank you guys, Thank
Speaker 1: you so much for all it. Love you guys, so
Speaker 1: good to Hi. Hi everybody, Hi, see you soon, do
Speaker 1: you soon? We needed that, we had to be with
Speaker 1: everyone that was that helped in a You and I
Speaker 1: have been talking through the loss of everyone and especially
Speaker 1: Joey Joey's passing most recently, but it's so nice to
Speaker 1: be able to have that our family or nine to
Speaker 1: a family together and to see them for everyone listening.
Speaker 1: We got to see them here on Zoom and UM
Speaker 1: and hear all the stories and be able to connect,
Speaker 1: like you know, put all of that together. It was
Speaker 1: really special. Yeah, thank you for everybody for making it
Speaker 1: happen for us and for all the fans and everybody
Speaker 1: that's listening. We um, we love doing it for you.
Speaker 1: So UM, I'm glad we all came together. And again
Speaker 1: this podcast of everyone coming together, we are donating and
Speaker 1: Joey's name to the Alzheimer's Association. UM, so please go
Speaker 1: ahead and donate there as well, UM, and Joey's name,
Speaker 1: and and anyone that you know or have loved that
Speaker 1: you lost that was suffering with that disease. We encourage you.
Speaker 1: Thanks guys, we love you, Thank you, and I love you.
Speaker 1: Jenny Garth, I love you too,