WEBVTT - Celebrating the Life of  Joe E. Tata

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<v Speaker 1>It's with Jenny Garth and Tori Spelling. Hello, nine O

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<v Speaker 1>two one OMG ors It's Jenny and Tory and UM.

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<v Speaker 1>We are going to do something special this week, something

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<v Speaker 1>very very special. We are all come together for a

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<v Speaker 1>tribute to Joey Tata, a celebration of life. So this

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<v Speaker 1>is the first time in the history of nine O

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<v Speaker 1>two one OMG that we're merging with the other amazing

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<v Speaker 1>podcast nine two one Beverly Hills Show podcast and their

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<v Speaker 1>host Pete is going to co host this with Jenny

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<v Speaker 1>and I and UM, and we're bringing everyone together to

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<v Speaker 1>jump on and kind of um celebrate Joey today. Oh well,

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<v Speaker 1>we are all here together again, which is really great,

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<v Speaker 1>but I wish it was for different, uh circumstances. We're

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<v Speaker 1>joined by Matthew, Gabrielle and Lindsay and Pete. Of course

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<v Speaker 1>Jason is coming on and yeah we have Jason coming

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<v Speaker 1>in soon. But thanks guys for all coming together. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>this is great. I mean, it's good to see everybody again.

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<v Speaker 1>Being the host of the other show, the Beverly Hills

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<v Speaker 1>Nino to Ano Show with Chuck and Larry, it's an

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<v Speaker 1>honor to be here with all of you. So uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's felt like we lost a family member

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<v Speaker 1>for fans, I think, and for you guys is actually

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<v Speaker 1>like you lost a family member and in a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of ways. So I'm curious for you Jenny and Tory, like,

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<v Speaker 1>how is this going for you? This has been a

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<v Speaker 1>weird time period with a lot of loss and everybody's

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<v Speaker 1>getting older and things are happening. Yeah. Well, first of all,

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<v Speaker 1>we wanted to mention that there are two podcasts podcasts,

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<v Speaker 1>so Pete, you guys have the nine O two on

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<v Speaker 1>No Beverly Hill Show podcast. Jen and I have nine

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<v Speaker 1>O two one o MG. And it really did feel

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<v Speaker 1>right to kind of merge together and do a simulcast

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<v Speaker 1>and kind of be with everyone as family and celebrate

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<v Speaker 1>Joey's life today UM and speak about him. Um are

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<v Speaker 1>amazing memories that we have and share some laughs, and

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<v Speaker 1>it would only be right to all do it together.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's why we're all here, and it would only

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<v Speaker 1>be right to, um, you know, come together for a

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<v Speaker 1>good thing. Let's let's do that. We're making UM everybody

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<v Speaker 1>here on the on the Zoom podcast. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>what we should call it. Um, we're all going to

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<v Speaker 1>be part of the donation to the Alzheimer's Association in

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<v Speaker 1>memory of our beloved that gnat So you asked, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>when I heard the news, UM, gosh, it was like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it felt as if a family member had

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<v Speaker 1>died in and I was so far away and I

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't you know that feeling of it doesn't feel real.

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<v Speaker 1>Um And Uh, it just was a really solemn day.

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<v Speaker 1>And couldn't really explain explain the like energy that I

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<v Speaker 1>was feeling. But it was definitely, UM, something that shook

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<v Speaker 1>me a lot. Tory, What about you? I mean you're

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<v Speaker 1>very close to Joe. I mean you had a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of scenes together and stuff, and I'm sure you're very

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<v Speaker 1>I read your thing that you run on Instagram was beautiful.

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<v Speaker 1>How are you feeling? I was. I mean, it definitely

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't unexpected. You know, we know he was suffering for years, um,

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<v Speaker 1>and and that we knew this was the inevitable. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>he was five, Um, but you still didn't want it

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<v Speaker 1>to happen. He wanted to believe that there was more time,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe one last hug you could get in um, something

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<v Speaker 1>like that. So it was still really shocking, and he

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<v Speaker 1>definitely was like a dad. He was like that fun dad.

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<v Speaker 1>He was he I said in my Instagram post that

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<v Speaker 1>he reminded me a lot of my dad. He was

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<v Speaker 1>very funny and body and um but what always was

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<v Speaker 1>a hugger and just you know, he was great. He

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<v Speaker 1>felt old school right, like, yeah, he was the o

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<v Speaker 1>G like he just it was old Hollywood with Joey.

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<v Speaker 1>We just got joined by Jason. Hey, j Hi ja,

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<v Speaker 1>Hi guys. How is everyone nice to see all your faces? Guys?

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<v Speaker 1>See you? Yeah? I wish it was under better circumstances. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>for sure, man, you were. I feel like you worked

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<v Speaker 1>a lot with him. You had. I mean we talked

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<v Speaker 1>about sometimes on this show, right, like the partnerships of

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<v Speaker 1>the couples and stuff like that. But Brandon and Nat

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<v Speaker 1>is a thing. It's just it's a it's a and

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<v Speaker 1>you guys had a lot of chemistry. I mean, you

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<v Speaker 1>guys worked a lot together. How how are you doing?

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<v Speaker 1>We did? We We worked a lot together. We also

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<v Speaker 1>spent a lot of time together outside of work. Joey

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<v Speaker 1>and I, Joey and I were great friends, um outside

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<v Speaker 1>of work, which which makes uh, losing him very difficult

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<v Speaker 1>for me. Joey was Joey was a very influential guy

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<v Speaker 1>in my in my life, in my in my young

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<v Speaker 1>life in Hollywood. He uh, he sort of took me

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<v Speaker 1>under his wing and you know, introduced me to a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of a lot of a lot of people and

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<v Speaker 1>showed being around town in a way I um that

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't have had access to otherwise. Uh. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>he was a very very you know, you know, like

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<v Speaker 1>Jenny was saying, you know, he was very old Hollywood

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<v Speaker 1>and he knew a lot of those old the would

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<v Speaker 1>guys and um. And he was he was, he was,

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<v Speaker 1>he was very Uh, he was, he was. He was

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<v Speaker 1>a great um. He was a great sharer of his

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<v Speaker 1>knowledge and his experiences and I will be eternally grateful

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<v Speaker 1>to him for that. Matthew, we have Matthew Lawrence to here. Matthew,

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<v Speaker 1>do you have any um, good Joey stories for us. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>first of all, I've been lucky enough to see Cory

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<v Speaker 1>and Peter lindsay you look beautiful. Jason. It's long since

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<v Speaker 1>I've seen you. I'll tell you that. Um. But my, uh, Joey,

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<v Speaker 1>what happened to me when I heard that? You know,

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<v Speaker 1>we were the old people on the set. We weren't

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<v Speaker 1>that old, but we were the old people and all

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<v Speaker 1>of you, uh youngsters who were going through what you

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<v Speaker 1>were going through. I think all of us that were

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<v Speaker 1>older and more veteran felt like a responsibility to all

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<v Speaker 1>of you. That's the family part that we're talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's the thing. Joey was one of the warmest, most

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<v Speaker 1>wonderful people in the world, and we all know that

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<v Speaker 1>with everybody. There wasn't a time I was on the nine.

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<v Speaker 1>There wasn't a time on that where Joey was not

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<v Speaker 1>hugging me or you, or laughing or introducing somebody to somebody.

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<v Speaker 1>Not one time in the nine needs I was there.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's the thing that destroys me. And that's why makes

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<v Speaker 1>donations the Alzheimer's Foundation knowing this disease. It's not just Joey,

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<v Speaker 1>it's anybody that has is this The thought that he

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<v Speaker 1>left us not having memory, not being able to remember

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<v Speaker 1>how much we all loved him, is the thing that

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<v Speaker 1>breaks my heart the most. And I can't stop thinking

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<v Speaker 1>about that. And I hope at the end he had

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<v Speaker 1>some claverity about how much everyone absolutely adored him, that's all.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what. There's part of me that wants

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<v Speaker 1>to believe it. Yet it does take the memories away,

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<v Speaker 1>and it affects different people differently. But there's part of

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<v Speaker 1>me that wants to believe that in his soul he

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely remembers hugging each of us and he felt our love. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>because I think that's the case for all of us.

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't matter where any of us are or what

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<v Speaker 1>any of us are going through, We're all connected on

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<v Speaker 1>a soul level because we spent so much, really so

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<v Speaker 1>much formative time together that we all always know and

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<v Speaker 1>all you know, and I feel like he did too

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<v Speaker 1>at the end. I mean, we were so blessed to

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<v Speaker 1>have that that zoom that you put together, Pete, for

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<v Speaker 1>all of us to be able to see him and

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<v Speaker 1>talk to him. Was that a year about a year ago?

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<v Speaker 1>A year ago? Yeah, and he was still like, I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't know Joey at all. Just to be clear, you

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<v Speaker 1>guys are the cats, and I'm again grateful to be here.

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<v Speaker 1>But he seemed like even in that zoom, he was

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<v Speaker 1>still really hilarious and cracking jokes with all of you

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<v Speaker 1>and talking about things that you all knew and whatnot.

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<v Speaker 1>He was still with it and got it right. And

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<v Speaker 1>that was the thing about the disease at that time

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<v Speaker 1>when we did it, he couldn't remember moment to moment

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<v Speaker 1>that was happening there, but he remembered all of us,

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<v Speaker 1>and he remembered the old times. When I think of Joey,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it was old. I mean, he was a

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<v Speaker 1>man who was filled with stories, filled with know how

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<v Speaker 1>in history, and he had been a part of it all.

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<v Speaker 1>He'd been around for long time. It was a really good,

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<v Speaker 1>generous spirit. I was just thinking, like in terms of

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<v Speaker 1>him being old Hollywood, you know, for me coming on

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<v Speaker 1>to your show at you know, in the last three seasons,

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<v Speaker 1>I was such a fan. And I remember, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>meeting him first of all, did he not have the

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<v Speaker 1>warmest smile in the world, Like it just lit up

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<v Speaker 1>an entire room. And I remember the thing about him,

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<v Speaker 1>the old Hollywood thing about him was that he he

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<v Speaker 1>had a class and a sort of like, um, there's

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<v Speaker 1>a way that sets used to run where you were

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<v Speaker 1>grateful to be there, you know, and you and you

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<v Speaker 1>and you welcomed everyone and you made sure everyone knew

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<v Speaker 1>everyone else, and and there was a warmth and just

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<v Speaker 1>a real gratitude that comes with you know, knowing how

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<v Speaker 1>fortunate you are working in Hollywood. And it wasn't just

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<v Speaker 1>his stories, it was just his overall feeling that um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you could look to him for that life center.

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<v Speaker 1>He was always like the center. He always respected the working.

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<v Speaker 1>He was always totally prepared every day he came in.

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<v Speaker 1>He knew all his lines, you know, exactly what he

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to do. He was super prepared all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, that's that's another like old school Hollywood

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<v Speaker 1>um professionalism. You know. He was just always super prepared

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<v Speaker 1>and always really ready to work every day, which was

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<v Speaker 1>which was which was nice for all of us youngsters

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<v Speaker 1>to see. Yeah, like what Matthew said, I think it's true,

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<v Speaker 1>like they did sort of have that responsibility of sort

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<v Speaker 1>of showing us the ropes if you will, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>because we were all young and kind of figuring it

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<v Speaker 1>out too. And I think there was a there was

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<v Speaker 1>a lot to that because they, you know, I know,

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<v Speaker 1>like the other adults on the cast, Like I learned

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<v Speaker 1>so much from just being around them and watching them

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<v Speaker 1>and hoping that that professionalism sort of like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>leaked into my world, and I think it did. I

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<v Speaker 1>think they had a huge impact on us and certainly Joey.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you guys remember he would come to set every day.

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<v Speaker 1>He was always in This is another old Hollywood thing.

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<v Speaker 1>He would come dressed, he would have his briefcase like

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<v Speaker 1>he looked great. Like we would all be like in

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<v Speaker 1>sweats and our hair and mess like you know, we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna get into glam anyway. But he was always like

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<v Speaker 1>dressed nicely, had his briefcase, walked in like you know.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's another thing, like you know, it's like when

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<v Speaker 1>they say people usould dress up to take you know, flights,

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<v Speaker 1>It used to be a thing like that was on

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<v Speaker 1>old Hollywood sets. They would always come dress in their

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<v Speaker 1>own like best foot forward presentation. Yeah, it's true. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>curious for you guys. You know, as you guys were

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<v Speaker 1>rising in this show, it became a super juggernaut and

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<v Speaker 1>you guys became super famous. Is Joey somebody that helped

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<v Speaker 1>ground you guys with advice or talk you through when

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<v Speaker 1>the world seemed like it was, you know, getting carried

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<v Speaker 1>away in your in your lives. Was he someone that

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<v Speaker 1>could laugh it out with you or talk to you

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<v Speaker 1>or say, hey man, don't worry about that, or sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>don't stress that or how did how did he handle

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<v Speaker 1>some of that? He did for me, He gave me

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<v Speaker 1>tons of advice, um about how to handle stuff all

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<v Speaker 1>the time. He was very helpful UM for me personally.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if he I don't know what he

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<v Speaker 1>did for you guys, Tory, Jenny Jay, I agree with you. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>he was always and I feel like because we were young,

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<v Speaker 1>we didn't know like you know, later on got to

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<v Speaker 1>know what was happening in Joey's personal life and his struggles,

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<v Speaker 1>but he never brought that to set. He was always

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<v Speaker 1>more concerned about us and wanted to know what's going on,

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<v Speaker 1>talk to me about it, and you know, he would

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<v Speaker 1>always place his hands on my shoulders. He would bring

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<v Speaker 1>me in. He would look me right in the eye,

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<v Speaker 1>big smile as they talk to me and um, and

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<v Speaker 1>he did. He would always, you know, talk about the work,

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<v Speaker 1>talk about the personal aspect of it and what would

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<v Speaker 1>happen and what was happening. And for like relationships I

0:13:49.200 --> 0:13:53.000
<v Speaker 1>always had like bad relationships with guys, he would always

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<v Speaker 1>know and he would always be like, you always had

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<v Speaker 1>something going on, so I need have someone come in

0:14:00.960 --> 0:14:13.839
<v Speaker 1>because I got I got connections, Like I'll do it myself. Yes, yeah,

0:14:13.840 --> 0:14:16.440
<v Speaker 1>he always just made you feel better, like you could

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<v Speaker 1>just de escalate any situation. It felt like just by

0:14:21.320 --> 0:14:23.360
<v Speaker 1>looking at you and smiling and it was just you

0:14:23.480 --> 0:14:25.640
<v Speaker 1>just got wrapped up in that warmth that was like,

0:14:26.800 --> 0:14:42.840
<v Speaker 1>you know, uncle Joey, I don't know something about it, lindsay,

0:14:42.840 --> 0:14:45.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm curious for you, like you came in late later

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<v Speaker 1>on in the show, and that could be intimidating in

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<v Speaker 1>its own self. What was was Joe someone like that

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<v Speaker 1>would talk to you and make you feel like you've

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<v Speaker 1>been there since day one. I think he I think

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<v Speaker 1>because you know, I grew up in this business, so

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<v Speaker 1>I had been on a bunch of sets, but this

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<v Speaker 1>was the most intimidating one by far by bar Um

0:15:06.880 --> 0:15:09.720
<v Speaker 1>and there was something about his presence that, like Jay said,

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<v Speaker 1>like there was a professionalism. Um, there was this thing

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<v Speaker 1>where he just like used being an actor that made

0:15:17.600 --> 0:15:19.760
<v Speaker 1>me feel like, ah, I know what I'm doing because

0:15:19.800 --> 0:15:21.880
<v Speaker 1>he's gonna do what I'm here to do and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not going to be totally freaked out that everyone here

0:15:24.120 --> 0:15:28.000
<v Speaker 1>I've watched since I was a freshman in high school. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>and he made me feel um, extremely welcome. I think

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<v Speaker 1>he called me kid, and I think he called me

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<v Speaker 1>like nicknames that made me feel like I was a

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<v Speaker 1>part of the group. You know, he was very aware

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<v Speaker 1>of I'm sure, having watched all the comings and goings,

0:15:43.000 --> 0:15:44.920
<v Speaker 1>how a person like me might have felt. So I

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<v Speaker 1>remember him. I remember thinking he went out of his

0:15:47.280 --> 0:15:51.960
<v Speaker 1>way to make me feel extremely welcome and you know, valued, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that sounds about right. I mean definitely. He also, just

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<v Speaker 1>like I was thinking, all you were talking, lindsay that

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<v Speaker 1>he he you could tell he loved what he did,

0:16:02.640 --> 0:16:06.800
<v Speaker 1>like he loved acting. He said, how lucky are we

0:16:06.840 --> 0:16:08.840
<v Speaker 1>to be doing this? That was just lucky are we?

0:16:10.080 --> 0:16:12.720
<v Speaker 1>I know that we're here to talk about and I'm glad,

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<v Speaker 1>but I feel not to be able to mention Denise

0:16:15.880 --> 0:16:20.120
<v Speaker 1>and Jessica because I just I have to say, part

0:16:20.120 --> 0:16:23.840
<v Speaker 1>of all of this is, and I had said this

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<v Speaker 1>in a post, it's our family, and it's a lot

0:16:27.200 --> 0:16:30.480
<v Speaker 1>of you know, there are three really important people in

0:16:30.520 --> 0:16:33.440
<v Speaker 1>different ways. For sure, we've lost a lot of family lately.

0:16:33.880 --> 0:16:36.560
<v Speaker 1>Jessica Klein wrote so much of the beautiful stuff that

0:16:36.600 --> 0:16:41.120
<v Speaker 1>you all said, why don't we talk about her real briefly? Jenny, Jenny,

0:16:41.160 --> 0:16:44.000
<v Speaker 1>I know you're very touched by all of the stuff

0:16:44.000 --> 0:16:45.800
<v Speaker 1>that she wrote. She wrote, I choose me, you know

0:16:45.840 --> 0:16:47.440
<v Speaker 1>what I mean, she wrote some of the most important

0:16:47.480 --> 0:16:49.800
<v Speaker 1>things that came through the series. Yeah, she just had

0:16:49.840 --> 0:16:56.200
<v Speaker 1>that feminine sensibility that the female characters on the show

0:16:56.240 --> 0:17:00.720
<v Speaker 1>really needed. And she just knew what she was doing

0:17:00.800 --> 0:17:03.400
<v Speaker 1>and she knew how to do it, and there was

0:17:03.480 --> 0:17:07.679
<v Speaker 1>no discussion around it, like she just took care of it,

0:17:07.760 --> 0:17:11.600
<v Speaker 1>you know. And I just felt very um taken care

0:17:11.680 --> 0:17:16.240
<v Speaker 1>of by her and and protected by her love for

0:17:16.320 --> 0:17:20.200
<v Speaker 1>the characters that that had been created, and in her

0:17:20.240 --> 0:17:24.520
<v Speaker 1>desire to keep everybody going in the right direction day.

0:17:24.560 --> 0:17:30.600
<v Speaker 1>How about you? I, you know, I felt I felt

0:17:30.640 --> 0:17:33.480
<v Speaker 1>a great loss when we lost Jessica. She was incredibly

0:17:33.640 --> 0:17:37.639
<v Speaker 1>talented UM writer. I was incredibly likely to work with

0:17:37.640 --> 0:17:40.320
<v Speaker 1>her as a show runner. UM for the years that

0:17:40.480 --> 0:17:43.399
<v Speaker 1>she worked with us as as our show runner or

0:17:43.400 --> 0:17:50.360
<v Speaker 1>in her unfortunately deceased ex husband Steve Um, they were

0:17:50.600 --> 0:17:53.639
<v Speaker 1>they were very good for us as as shaw runners.

0:17:53.640 --> 0:17:55.800
<v Speaker 1>And she was she was you know, she's also and

0:17:55.920 --> 0:17:58.879
<v Speaker 1>she's also a lovely, lovely she was a lovely, lovely

0:17:58.960 --> 0:18:03.480
<v Speaker 1>woman as well. Um uh uh and uh you know,

0:18:03.960 --> 0:18:05.840
<v Speaker 1>you know, my my heart goes out to you know,

0:18:05.920 --> 0:18:10.280
<v Speaker 1>her her surviving daughter UM and UH and her family.

0:18:10.480 --> 0:18:13.879
<v Speaker 1>You know, I know that they're they're suffering, UH these days.

0:18:14.000 --> 0:18:17.080
<v Speaker 1>You know, her losses felt by a lot of a

0:18:17.160 --> 0:18:21.520
<v Speaker 1>lot of a lot of people. Yeah, definitely. She touched

0:18:21.520 --> 0:18:25.520
<v Speaker 1>so many lives. I mean, I think our place in

0:18:25.560 --> 0:18:29.600
<v Speaker 1>this world is to make a difference. She made a

0:18:29.640 --> 0:18:33.359
<v Speaker 1>difference in so many people's lives. To hear them speak.

0:18:34.119 --> 0:18:36.560
<v Speaker 1>It wasn't like, you know, she was a teenager. She

0:18:36.680 --> 0:18:40.200
<v Speaker 1>was somebody was older and passed away, not old, but older,

0:18:40.280 --> 0:18:43.560
<v Speaker 1>and yet it was there was the things that about

0:18:43.600 --> 0:18:47.320
<v Speaker 1>her were so I was really moved and I didn't

0:18:47.320 --> 0:18:51.760
<v Speaker 1>even know like she really believed in the idea of

0:18:51.800 --> 0:18:55.879
<v Speaker 1>service and humanity. Walk. That walk was beautiful. Yeah, that

0:18:56.000 --> 0:18:58.639
<v Speaker 1>was interesting to learn about all the things that she

0:18:58.680 --> 0:19:01.359
<v Speaker 1>had done since the show and the impact that she

0:19:01.400 --> 0:19:04.120
<v Speaker 1>had had in her faith that her you know, how

0:19:04.160 --> 0:19:07.399
<v Speaker 1>she I remember who told me the story about when

0:19:08.160 --> 0:19:12.800
<v Speaker 1>she came into town. I don't know. I think it

0:19:12.840 --> 0:19:18.240
<v Speaker 1>was for Luke's funeral and for his service anyway, and

0:19:18.280 --> 0:19:20.560
<v Speaker 1>how she was it was on on us. I don't

0:19:20.560 --> 0:19:26.800
<v Speaker 1>know what is the right word gap sabbat Sabbath, right,

0:19:26.920 --> 0:19:30.159
<v Speaker 1>She didn't drive, so they she stayed at a hotel

0:19:30.160 --> 0:19:33.560
<v Speaker 1>close by enough that she could walk the walk through

0:19:33.760 --> 0:19:37.800
<v Speaker 1>you know, nature and take that time to like really

0:19:38.600 --> 0:19:40.080
<v Speaker 1>let it sink in. I thought, I don't know. There

0:19:40.119 --> 0:19:41.560
<v Speaker 1>was just so many cool things that I had to

0:19:41.760 --> 0:19:47.480
<v Speaker 1>learned about her after her passing that we're inspirational. She

0:19:47.600 --> 0:19:50.600
<v Speaker 1>was definitely a fire, Like she was a spit fire,

0:19:50.920 --> 0:19:53.400
<v Speaker 1>and I love that about her. Like we talked about

0:19:53.520 --> 0:19:58.200
<v Speaker 1>nowadays like female bosses, like like, oh, you're a boss, babe.

0:19:58.240 --> 0:20:01.560
<v Speaker 1>People throw that term loose around. Like back in the day,

0:20:01.720 --> 0:20:07.560
<v Speaker 1>she was that. Like she was so kind and so funny,

0:20:07.600 --> 0:20:11.600
<v Speaker 1>but phil was so much fire and just lead the force.

0:20:12.400 --> 0:20:14.760
<v Speaker 1>Um and her daughter and I were talking after she passed,

0:20:14.800 --> 0:20:17.760
<v Speaker 1>and she was like, my mom always loved She said

0:20:17.760 --> 0:20:20.360
<v Speaker 1>about me that you were willing to do whatever, and

0:20:20.400 --> 0:20:23.760
<v Speaker 1>she loved writing for that. And so I am so

0:20:23.800 --> 0:20:25.800
<v Speaker 1>grateful to Jessica because she wrote a lot of the

0:20:25.800 --> 0:20:28.960
<v Speaker 1>comedy that I got the chance to do and that

0:20:29.040 --> 0:20:30.880
<v Speaker 1>was really important to me. So it meant a lot.

0:20:31.000 --> 0:20:33.919
<v Speaker 1>She was amazing. It was look a voice of a

0:20:33.920 --> 0:20:36.160
<v Speaker 1>generation in a in a way, you know what I mean.

0:20:36.240 --> 0:20:38.840
<v Speaker 1>For fans like her, her words came through to all

0:20:38.920 --> 0:20:41.119
<v Speaker 1>through all of you in such a beautiful way. What

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<v Speaker 1>about Denise. Someone just reminded me the other day that

0:20:44.200 --> 0:20:48.399
<v Speaker 1>she was at Mrs Teasley was at Donna Martin's bachelorette party.

0:20:48.880 --> 0:20:51.479
<v Speaker 1>That's true, And I can't wait to rewatch that episode

0:20:51.480 --> 0:20:54.159
<v Speaker 1>because I did not remember that. Oh my gosh. I

0:20:55.480 --> 0:20:59.720
<v Speaker 1>literally can't wait for you to watch them that the

0:20:59.760 --> 0:21:05.600
<v Speaker 1>ten season I remember, and I think someone said, Wow,

0:21:05.720 --> 0:21:07.879
<v Speaker 1>Donn and Martin must have been really hard up for friends.

0:21:07.920 --> 0:21:10.719
<v Speaker 1>If you have to fight your your vice principal from

0:21:10.800 --> 0:21:14.119
<v Speaker 1>high school to your bachelorette party. No, that's just a

0:21:14.160 --> 0:21:20.320
<v Speaker 1>testament how cool she was character. You know, Felice was there,

0:21:20.480 --> 0:21:24.320
<v Speaker 1>this was the bachelor rett party. Yes, and and Mrs Teasley,

0:21:25.000 --> 0:21:31.120
<v Speaker 1>who can't wait. It's crazy though when you think about

0:21:31.200 --> 0:21:35.399
<v Speaker 1>like the loss and we all started with, you know,

0:21:35.480 --> 0:21:39.280
<v Speaker 1>when Luke passed away so suddenly, and that was so

0:21:39.880 --> 0:21:46.760
<v Speaker 1>jarring and weird and just destructive, and and then to

0:21:46.960 --> 0:21:50.040
<v Speaker 1>see now as other people from that experience in that

0:21:50.240 --> 0:21:54.000
<v Speaker 1>world that we had pass away and and move on

0:21:54.119 --> 0:21:58.120
<v Speaker 1>like I don't know, there's just like I get goose

0:21:58.119 --> 0:21:59.600
<v Speaker 1>bumps talking about it, and it makes me a little

0:21:59.600 --> 0:22:13.600
<v Speaker 1>emotional because sorry, guys, I love you. Yeah, I don't know.

0:22:13.720 --> 0:22:18.879
<v Speaker 1>I just I said before, I fucking hate death and

0:22:18.960 --> 0:22:26.040
<v Speaker 1>I hate loss, but I do I have to believe that. Um, well,

0:22:26.040 --> 0:22:31.600
<v Speaker 1>I'll be together again, and I'm I'm really glad that

0:22:31.680 --> 0:22:44.200
<v Speaker 1>I'll be with you guys. Sorry, Okay, it's inevitable. It's

0:22:44.200 --> 0:22:47.560
<v Speaker 1>a part of life. And we have such a history

0:22:47.760 --> 0:22:51.600
<v Speaker 1>and we always say this to each other while the

0:22:51.720 --> 0:22:54.440
<v Speaker 1>fans can watch and be a part of our family.

0:22:54.640 --> 0:22:57.440
<v Speaker 1>And that was you know, we were in everyone's home,

0:22:57.560 --> 0:23:00.760
<v Speaker 1>so you are family, um when you've watched us and

0:23:00.760 --> 0:23:05.160
<v Speaker 1>now listen to us. But that experience over that ten

0:23:05.240 --> 0:23:09.280
<v Speaker 1>years was something that we can't ever put in words

0:23:09.520 --> 0:23:12.040
<v Speaker 1>to anybody else outside of our group because it was

0:23:12.080 --> 0:23:15.040
<v Speaker 1>an experience that we all shared so like a bond,

0:23:15.960 --> 0:23:18.760
<v Speaker 1>and Jen and I talked about it that you know,

0:23:18.920 --> 0:23:20.920
<v Speaker 1>I don't think it was a coincidence that we were

0:23:20.920 --> 0:23:24.960
<v Speaker 1>all together and we all shared that experience and that journey,

0:23:25.200 --> 0:23:27.760
<v Speaker 1>and that will always hold a special place for all

0:23:27.800 --> 0:23:31.399
<v Speaker 1>of us involved that were shared that you know, somewhere

0:23:31.400 --> 0:23:34.600
<v Speaker 1>in that tenure experience and if you believe in like

0:23:35.240 --> 0:23:38.720
<v Speaker 1>heaven and everything, I don't know what anybody believes in.

0:23:38.800 --> 0:23:40.720
<v Speaker 1>And I don't care. I don't even know what I

0:23:40.760 --> 0:23:44.840
<v Speaker 1>believe in half the time, but I just I know

0:23:44.960 --> 0:23:48.280
<v Speaker 1>the how how if it is the way they say

0:23:48.320 --> 0:23:53.600
<v Speaker 1>it is that Luke was beyond elated to have Joey

0:23:53.680 --> 0:23:56.679
<v Speaker 1>joined him at that party that that they're having, you know,

0:23:57.400 --> 0:24:05.200
<v Speaker 1>like it made me feel like he isn't alone, you know. Yeah, well, yes,

0:24:05.280 --> 0:24:07.440
<v Speaker 1>fans look at this and watch this. I mean, they're

0:24:07.480 --> 0:24:09.960
<v Speaker 1>all dealing, we're all getting we all grew up together, right, Jenny.

0:24:09.960 --> 0:24:12.480
<v Speaker 1>We've said that, like people feel like the fans feel

0:24:12.480 --> 0:24:13.960
<v Speaker 1>like they grew up and we all grew up together.

0:24:14.160 --> 0:24:17.560
<v Speaker 1>Like they're all going through your own personal sort of

0:24:17.840 --> 0:24:21.320
<v Speaker 1>losing their own gnats and their own people, and it's

0:24:21.400 --> 0:24:25.880
<v Speaker 1>a really challenging time relationships. Whatever they're going through, we're

0:24:25.880 --> 0:24:27.479
<v Speaker 1>all at that age. We can't even believe we're at

0:24:27.520 --> 0:24:29.520
<v Speaker 1>that age that it's us that we're talking about this.

0:24:29.560 --> 0:24:32.280
<v Speaker 1>It sounds like other people would be having these issues,

0:24:32.320 --> 0:24:35.639
<v Speaker 1>but we're all having them. I mean, for Jenny, do

0:24:35.680 --> 0:24:38.119
<v Speaker 1>you have any thoughts about that? I mean, how do

0:24:38.400 --> 0:24:41.920
<v Speaker 1>people how are you getting through some of these losses

0:24:42.119 --> 0:24:46.080
<v Speaker 1>and whatnot? To help fans maybe in their own their

0:24:46.080 --> 0:24:48.840
<v Speaker 1>own struggles. If I'm the right person to ask me,

0:24:51.280 --> 0:24:55.440
<v Speaker 1>I fall apart. I'm an emotional I'm a very emotionful person. People.

0:24:55.640 --> 0:24:59.600
<v Speaker 1>Some people call me emotional. I call myself emotionful because

0:25:00.000 --> 0:25:03.840
<v Speaker 1>it sounds more positive. But yeah, I don't I don't

0:25:03.880 --> 0:25:05.560
<v Speaker 1>know if I'm the right person to ask, you know,

0:25:05.640 --> 0:25:10.720
<v Speaker 1>because you're right, like, everybody's going through stuff and it's

0:25:11.400 --> 0:25:13.800
<v Speaker 1>you gotta just kind of learn to deal with it

0:25:13.840 --> 0:25:17.480
<v Speaker 1>as it goes or I don't know. I mean, we'll

0:25:17.520 --> 0:25:20.639
<v Speaker 1>always have memories. Like you that's when you take with you,

0:25:20.760 --> 0:25:24.040
<v Speaker 1>like you have visual memories of almost like you can

0:25:24.119 --> 0:25:26.720
<v Speaker 1>visualize them in your life and you remember hugging someone

0:25:26.800 --> 0:25:28.800
<v Speaker 1>or being with someone, and then when they pass away,

0:25:28.840 --> 0:25:32.280
<v Speaker 1>that remains. But we're so lucky that through nine two

0:25:32.440 --> 0:25:37.159
<v Speaker 1>oh we literally have, you know, ten seasons of a

0:25:37.240 --> 0:25:40.840
<v Speaker 1>show that is like a beautiful love letter to our

0:25:41.000 --> 0:25:44.240
<v Speaker 1>entire family that the ones we are losing, we're able

0:25:44.320 --> 0:25:48.240
<v Speaker 1>to see them um and and remember it that way,

0:25:48.240 --> 0:25:50.280
<v Speaker 1>and the fans get to do that as well, so

0:25:50.320 --> 0:25:55.320
<v Speaker 1>they're never completely gone. Yeah. I hate the endings of things.

0:25:55.840 --> 0:25:59.120
<v Speaker 1>I don't like when good things end. I remember when

0:25:59.160 --> 0:26:01.919
<v Speaker 1>the show ended. I hated that day. I hate I

0:26:01.960 --> 0:26:07.000
<v Speaker 1>hate the ending of anything I've recently um experienced lost

0:26:07.040 --> 0:26:09.320
<v Speaker 1>in my life. I lost my dad, and I feel

0:26:09.320 --> 0:26:12.280
<v Speaker 1>like a lot of people of our age are losing

0:26:12.280 --> 0:26:15.760
<v Speaker 1>their parents, and you know, like it just it rocks

0:26:15.760 --> 0:26:17.600
<v Speaker 1>to you. But the thing that I just refused to

0:26:17.600 --> 0:26:20.360
<v Speaker 1>believe is that when like you have an energy as

0:26:20.400 --> 0:26:22.800
<v Speaker 1>big as a life, as a life force, but that

0:26:22.960 --> 0:26:26.280
<v Speaker 1>ends the thing that I think keeps me like going

0:26:26.320 --> 0:26:28.760
<v Speaker 1>and keeps me thinking, especially whether it's that our show

0:26:29.359 --> 0:26:31.640
<v Speaker 1>you know, but your show was on for so long

0:26:31.680 --> 0:26:34.359
<v Speaker 1>and ended, or that you know, unfortunately we lose the

0:26:34.359 --> 0:26:37.000
<v Speaker 1>people love, that energy continues, and I think if you

0:26:37.240 --> 0:26:39.960
<v Speaker 1>if you don't think of it as being over, it's

0:26:40.040 --> 0:26:44.359
<v Speaker 1>just transitioned or changed into a different end, you know,

0:26:44.359 --> 0:26:47.560
<v Speaker 1>a different who knows what it is. That sort of

0:26:47.560 --> 0:26:52.399
<v Speaker 1>helps a bit. Um. It's it's not there's no easy

0:26:52.440 --> 0:26:54.520
<v Speaker 1>way through it, but I think I think thinking about

0:26:54.520 --> 0:26:59.800
<v Speaker 1>that energy carrying on is probably helpful that any joining

0:26:59.880 --> 0:27:04.439
<v Speaker 1>the energy, right, it's just and when you love someone

0:27:04.600 --> 0:27:07.119
<v Speaker 1>so much, the greed is so much greater, right, So

0:27:07.160 --> 0:27:10.159
<v Speaker 1>it's like you feel grief and you feel the loss,

0:27:10.200 --> 0:27:12.280
<v Speaker 1>it just means that you were lucky enough to have that,

0:27:12.560 --> 0:27:17.199
<v Speaker 1>you know, love experience and We're so lucky because we

0:27:17.280 --> 0:27:19.320
<v Speaker 1>get to watch the show back and be with the

0:27:19.359 --> 0:27:22.360
<v Speaker 1>person as if it were all still together in that

0:27:22.440 --> 0:27:26.160
<v Speaker 1>those moments in time are frozen forever, and we're so

0:27:26.240 --> 0:27:29.879
<v Speaker 1>lucky to have that. And I don't know we I

0:27:29.880 --> 0:27:35.000
<v Speaker 1>think we might have Chuck Rosen joining us. Is that happening?

0:27:37.640 --> 0:27:40.280
<v Speaker 1>Just to dump on your point though, Jenny, like the

0:27:40.320 --> 0:27:43.639
<v Speaker 1>fans also always have the show to go back to.

0:27:44.080 --> 0:27:46.560
<v Speaker 1>They always have that thing. The work that you guys

0:27:46.600 --> 0:27:50.120
<v Speaker 1>did is now speaking on such a deeper level because

0:27:50.600 --> 0:27:52.679
<v Speaker 1>there is that place that they can go back and

0:27:52.680 --> 0:27:56.400
<v Speaker 1>watch that episode where you know, not paid off Brandon's

0:27:56.400 --> 0:28:01.280
<v Speaker 1>bookie or whatever it is, and live in those kinds

0:28:01.320 --> 0:28:04.320
<v Speaker 1>of spaces of like, hey, this is this place. This

0:28:04.400 --> 0:28:07.000
<v Speaker 1>is the where where I'm good. I can come here

0:28:07.000 --> 0:28:09.679
<v Speaker 1>and I could watch this and be okay. It's like

0:28:09.800 --> 0:28:12.320
<v Speaker 1>the work that you guys did in the dedication that

0:28:12.359 --> 0:28:14.440
<v Speaker 1>you guys put into for all the seasons that you

0:28:14.480 --> 0:28:16.639
<v Speaker 1>were there. It's just so appreciative from bands and I

0:28:16.640 --> 0:28:18.600
<v Speaker 1>tried to tell you guys that as much as I can,

0:28:19.200 --> 0:28:21.200
<v Speaker 1>because the work still holds up and it still means

0:28:21.200 --> 0:28:22.919
<v Speaker 1>a lot to this generation and the more of the

0:28:22.960 --> 0:28:25.520
<v Speaker 1>generations see it the Beverly Hills nine O two and

0:28:25.600 --> 0:28:30.679
<v Speaker 1>I made a significant difference in people's lives, and um,

0:28:30.840 --> 0:28:32.840
<v Speaker 1>you should all be really proud of the thing that

0:28:32.880 --> 0:28:36.239
<v Speaker 1>you did, because it's still here. I'm sure. Then in

0:28:36.320 --> 0:28:38.560
<v Speaker 1>season one, Jay, you were like, I don't think we're

0:28:38.560 --> 0:28:43.320
<v Speaker 1>gonna get past episode seven. You know, I didn't think.

0:28:43.360 --> 0:28:44.920
<v Speaker 1>I didn't think we're going to get a back nine

0:28:44.920 --> 0:28:49.640
<v Speaker 1>pick up, tell you the truth. We were all surprised

0:28:49.640 --> 0:28:52.440
<v Speaker 1>and we got through that first season, but it wasn't

0:28:52.440 --> 0:28:54.720
<v Speaker 1>a back nine. Then, how how does it even work?

0:28:54.760 --> 0:28:57.840
<v Speaker 1>We could see any episodes every season? Nine past nine

0:28:57.920 --> 0:29:04.240
<v Speaker 1>is only eighteen. No, we got we got, we got

0:29:04.240 --> 0:29:05.840
<v Speaker 1>the part, we got the we did the pilot, and

0:29:05.840 --> 0:29:09.320
<v Speaker 1>then we got the initial twelve boarder twelve okay, and

0:29:09.320 --> 0:29:12.040
<v Speaker 1>then we had to get that back not back I

0:29:12.080 --> 0:29:18.400
<v Speaker 1>remember that so archaic, right, get the back nine. I've

0:29:18.480 --> 0:29:23.320
<v Speaker 1>forgotten about that completely. But that math doesn't add up. Right,

0:29:23.520 --> 0:29:26.320
<v Speaker 1>We did like twenty three episodes, but we also did

0:29:26.440 --> 0:29:31.200
<v Speaker 1>double up, So does that mean there was like six four?

0:29:31.400 --> 0:29:34.560
<v Speaker 1>But we're all over now now we're doing we were doing,

0:29:34.680 --> 0:29:38.640
<v Speaker 1>we're doing thirties thirty two episodes a year. In those

0:29:38.680 --> 0:29:43.440
<v Speaker 1>double episodes, years, we're doing thirty two. It was crazy. Yeah,

0:29:43.480 --> 0:29:48.280
<v Speaker 1>And Joey was on for all ten years. He's one

0:29:48.320 --> 0:29:49.719
<v Speaker 1>of the few of us that was on for all

0:29:49.760 --> 0:29:52.440
<v Speaker 1>ten years. And he was in like two hundred and

0:29:52.640 --> 0:29:54.360
<v Speaker 1>I don't even know how many episodes. That was two

0:29:54.400 --> 0:29:58.520
<v Speaker 1>hundred something. There's a lot, Jay, Do you remember that

0:29:58.560 --> 0:30:01.680
<v Speaker 1>episode where he paid your book? Remember he paid it

0:30:01.720 --> 0:30:05.320
<v Speaker 1>when he paid up Billy Vera. Yes, we just watched

0:30:05.320 --> 0:30:14.320
<v Speaker 1>the least intimidating book he ever my bookie with the

0:30:14.400 --> 0:30:21.200
<v Speaker 1>softest hands I've ever touched that voice, that voice, remember,

0:30:21.680 --> 0:30:26.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't know which season it was. But finally Joey

0:30:26.080 --> 0:30:28.280
<v Speaker 1>was added as a series regular, even though he was

0:30:28.320 --> 0:30:31.240
<v Speaker 1>always a series regular to us, he wasn't contractually a

0:30:31.240 --> 0:30:33.920
<v Speaker 1>series regular. And then he got to be in the

0:30:33.960 --> 0:30:37.600
<v Speaker 1>opening credits. He had his own spin in. I remember

0:30:37.600 --> 0:30:40.800
<v Speaker 1>that day filming that. He was so excited to be

0:30:40.880 --> 0:30:43.720
<v Speaker 1>included in that. What season was that was? That was

0:30:43.760 --> 0:30:48.840
<v Speaker 1>that season? Eight? Pet know, I don't I think it's

0:30:48.920 --> 0:30:50.880
<v Speaker 1>I think it's sooner than that. I think he became

0:30:50.880 --> 0:30:54.720
<v Speaker 1>a regular sooner than that, you guys, seven, maybe seven, eight, nine, ten,

0:30:54.800 --> 0:30:57.520
<v Speaker 1>maybe eight nine times something like that. He was spinning

0:30:57.560 --> 0:31:02.520
<v Speaker 1>by the time I got there, it was like season

0:31:02.560 --> 0:31:06.360
<v Speaker 1>seven maybe, Uh, gab Gabriel. I just watched an episode

0:31:06.360 --> 0:31:08.960
<v Speaker 1>where you had to go do a review of the

0:31:09.000 --> 0:31:11.720
<v Speaker 1>peach Pit, and you're like a yelper and you're giving

0:31:11.760 --> 0:31:13.720
<v Speaker 1>because it's a college thing, so you're like giving a

0:31:13.760 --> 0:31:16.400
<v Speaker 1>really harsh review. But you and Joey do some some

0:31:16.480 --> 0:31:19.760
<v Speaker 1>really great comedy. Was he fun to do comedy with? Garbriel?

0:31:20.360 --> 0:31:23.160
<v Speaker 1>It's fun to work with. To be with Joey was

0:31:23.560 --> 0:31:27.880
<v Speaker 1>be with Joy what that was really he loved with

0:31:28.800 --> 0:31:32.560
<v Speaker 1>made it fun and easier. You know, sometimes work with Buddy,

0:31:32.600 --> 0:31:47.520
<v Speaker 1>you just flow. I know we're being joined by Chuck now.

0:31:47.560 --> 0:31:49.360
<v Speaker 1>I thought it was earlier, but now I know he's

0:31:49.440 --> 0:31:54.400
<v Speaker 1>here and Larry. We have Chuck Rosen and Larry Mullen. Hi,

0:31:54.920 --> 0:32:00.200
<v Speaker 1>look at you. Look at you, guys. I don't know you,

0:32:00.360 --> 0:32:05.120
<v Speaker 1>but hello, nice to meet you. I can answer that

0:32:05.200 --> 0:32:07.840
<v Speaker 1>because he started being a suit when you about Joey

0:32:08.200 --> 0:32:13.960
<v Speaker 1>was Hi my last year and he and Tori, he

0:32:14.040 --> 0:32:16.760
<v Speaker 1>was onto it. After about season three. He wanted to know,

0:32:16.800 --> 0:32:21.960
<v Speaker 1>why aren't I in the credit? I only get there,

0:32:22.120 --> 0:32:25.480
<v Speaker 1>you know. But eventually he convinced his friends down the

0:32:25.520 --> 0:32:29.040
<v Speaker 1>hall and he in the series regular and like all

0:32:29.080 --> 0:32:31.520
<v Speaker 1>you guys, and he was great that he made it

0:32:31.560 --> 0:32:34.160
<v Speaker 1>and that's where he belonged. And and really hard, right,

0:32:34.200 --> 0:32:36.640
<v Speaker 1>I mean you the actors, you maybe can learn it too.

0:32:37.440 --> 0:32:40.640
<v Speaker 1>He was a character actor and for a character actor

0:32:41.000 --> 0:32:42.960
<v Speaker 1>to get on and I was looking at his resume

0:32:43.040 --> 0:32:47.160
<v Speaker 1>and he did every show of the early seventies, mid

0:32:47.240 --> 0:32:49.760
<v Speaker 1>seventies Lakes, you know, just a lot of shows. But

0:32:49.840 --> 0:32:52.960
<v Speaker 1>to have ten years of one character to grow and

0:32:53.040 --> 0:32:56.000
<v Speaker 1>be with this was this was part of his of

0:32:56.120 --> 0:32:58.800
<v Speaker 1>his lifetime. And and and that with the beauty of

0:32:58.840 --> 0:33:01.480
<v Speaker 1>it is that he knew it. He was happy, you know,

0:33:01.560 --> 0:33:05.240
<v Speaker 1>as you're all saying, Chuck, do you remember meeting him

0:33:05.240 --> 0:33:08.080
<v Speaker 1>in the audition? Do you remember seeing him for the

0:33:08.120 --> 0:33:11.840
<v Speaker 1>first time audition. I've been thinking about the audition because

0:33:12.000 --> 0:33:15.959
<v Speaker 1>it was the first audition that we had. There's an

0:33:16.000 --> 0:33:19.960
<v Speaker 1>episode two, Every Dream Has Its Price time they went

0:33:20.000 --> 0:33:26.720
<v Speaker 1>about shoplifting and um and and we we did it

0:33:26.760 --> 0:33:30.640
<v Speaker 1>on Wilshire Boulevard and Tony Shepherd. It was me and

0:33:30.720 --> 0:33:33.920
<v Speaker 1>Tony Shepherd because Tony was representing your dad, Tori, and

0:33:33.920 --> 0:33:37.200
<v Speaker 1>it was it had the chance to be a recurring role.

0:33:37.240 --> 0:33:40.280
<v Speaker 1>We didn't know if it would because you know, but

0:33:40.400 --> 0:33:43.560
<v Speaker 1>it had the chance to come back for more. And

0:33:43.640 --> 0:33:46.920
<v Speaker 1>there were two actors. It's always Tony Shepherd me and

0:33:46.960 --> 0:33:51.880
<v Speaker 1>to be young. Uh. There was a woman director who

0:33:52.000 --> 0:33:56.600
<v Speaker 1>I actually went after, Melanie Mayron to do episodes. And

0:33:56.680 --> 0:34:00.440
<v Speaker 1>she had a girlfriend and the girlfriend um was the

0:34:00.680 --> 0:34:03.800
<v Speaker 1>was the director of science having a senior moment here.

0:34:04.120 --> 0:34:06.720
<v Speaker 1>But she's the one my favorite thing that she did.

0:34:06.920 --> 0:34:09.360
<v Speaker 1>She's the one that got you to the aerial shot

0:34:09.400 --> 0:34:11.920
<v Speaker 1>with you on the bed, Jenny, so when you spun over,

0:34:12.760 --> 0:34:15.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, and that was always in the credits and things.

0:34:15.080 --> 0:34:17.839
<v Speaker 1>Always I was like that one the directing move she made.

0:34:18.080 --> 0:34:21.560
<v Speaker 1>But like the two actors, it was Joey, but the

0:34:21.640 --> 0:34:25.440
<v Speaker 1>other actors Frank Bortion, do you any of you guys

0:34:25.440 --> 0:34:31.000
<v Speaker 1>know Frank the joker? Oh my gosh, my portion And

0:34:31.120 --> 0:34:36.480
<v Speaker 1>Frank Ortion was a more you know, guest star worthy.

0:34:36.560 --> 0:34:39.960
<v Speaker 1>He was a big name coming in. And the other woman,

0:34:40.320 --> 0:34:44.640
<v Speaker 1>the woman director, was just referring to him and and

0:34:44.640 --> 0:34:48.399
<v Speaker 1>and I just looked at it this way, who would

0:34:48.440 --> 0:34:51.959
<v Speaker 1>I'd rather spend an afternoon with this friend of Duke

0:34:52.080 --> 0:34:57.320
<v Speaker 1>Vincent's star. And you know, it was no contest, you know, Joey,

0:34:57.480 --> 0:35:01.520
<v Speaker 1>It wasn't very many lines, But that sonality was what

0:35:01.640 --> 0:35:04.120
<v Speaker 1>I It wasn't called that's what we needed, That's what

0:35:04.239 --> 0:35:06.360
<v Speaker 1>you wanted. You wanted a place. If I was going

0:35:06.440 --> 0:35:09.280
<v Speaker 1>to try to create a place where all you guys

0:35:09.320 --> 0:35:11.359
<v Speaker 1>would hang out, then it would have to be a

0:35:11.360 --> 0:35:16.680
<v Speaker 1>welcoming one. You didn't want somebody who had sardonic insight

0:35:16.960 --> 0:35:20.560
<v Speaker 1>really run to the table. Larry, you got to work

0:35:20.600 --> 0:35:22.480
<v Speaker 1>with him in the later seasons. You know, you came

0:35:22.520 --> 0:35:25.080
<v Speaker 1>in season four. What what? What are some of your

0:35:25.080 --> 0:35:28.080
<v Speaker 1>thoughts about about working with joe I was thinking of it.

0:35:28.120 --> 0:35:31.239
<v Speaker 1>I have two major thoughts. One was the fact that

0:35:31.560 --> 0:35:35.160
<v Speaker 1>writers loved Joey and we loved writing for the character

0:35:35.400 --> 0:35:38.400
<v Speaker 1>of Nat. And and you know, by the fifth season,

0:35:38.400 --> 0:35:40.840
<v Speaker 1>when Cindy and Jim left, there was a space to

0:35:40.920 --> 0:35:44.160
<v Speaker 1>kind of develop it more. In season six, we went

0:35:44.239 --> 0:35:46.560
<v Speaker 1>for it, and we we sat there in room said

0:35:46.560 --> 0:35:50.640
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna give Joey a romantic storyline and and it's

0:35:50.680 --> 0:35:53.160
<v Speaker 1>gonna be the one that got away. And and we

0:35:53.280 --> 0:35:56.600
<v Speaker 1>mined deep into the real Joey's life, like Chuck was

0:35:56.600 --> 0:35:59.319
<v Speaker 1>saying into his credits, and we found a movie he

0:35:59.400 --> 0:36:01.920
<v Speaker 1>was in called On Holy Rollers. It was a Roger

0:36:02.320 --> 0:36:05.400
<v Speaker 1>Corman film, a B film, and we built this whole

0:36:05.520 --> 0:36:08.160
<v Speaker 1>storyline that this was gonna track the one girl that

0:36:08.239 --> 0:36:11.440
<v Speaker 1>he really loved who got away, and Roger Corman him

0:36:11.560 --> 0:36:13.839
<v Speaker 1>and they actually they screened the movie of the Peach

0:36:13.880 --> 0:36:16.399
<v Speaker 1>Bay after Darks a special night to kind of honor

0:36:16.520 --> 0:36:19.160
<v Speaker 1>Joy because the gang did not know he was an actor.

0:36:19.200 --> 0:36:21.239
<v Speaker 1>And his whole story was, of course, he had that

0:36:21.280 --> 0:36:24.359
<v Speaker 1>repressive father which we see in the sixties episode, who

0:36:24.560 --> 0:36:26.960
<v Speaker 1>basically made him give up his acting dream. But we

0:36:27.000 --> 0:36:29.239
<v Speaker 1>had this this this movie, we're gonna show it and

0:36:29.320 --> 0:36:32.200
<v Speaker 1>joe and and his girlfriend from back when he's gonna

0:36:32.239 --> 0:36:35.880
<v Speaker 1>show up. And we did, and Joey has kissing like

0:36:35.960 --> 0:36:39.399
<v Speaker 1>everybody else, and everybody else gets involved in this relationship

0:36:39.800 --> 0:36:42.160
<v Speaker 1>and they wind up getting married and having a baby,

0:36:42.160 --> 0:36:43.920
<v Speaker 1>and it goes to the end of the season. And

0:36:43.920 --> 0:36:46.560
<v Speaker 1>and the woman he married, who plays Joanie as a

0:36:46.600 --> 0:36:48.360
<v Speaker 1>was a friend of mine, Julie Parrish. She was a

0:36:48.360 --> 0:36:50.279
<v Speaker 1>wonderful gal. I don't know if you guys got to

0:36:50.320 --> 0:36:52.359
<v Speaker 1>meet her. She was in Elvis movie. She was an

0:36:52.360 --> 0:36:55.480
<v Speaker 1>Elvis girl, and she was a friend of mine just

0:36:56.000 --> 0:36:57.719
<v Speaker 1>from a friend of a friend, because she had done

0:36:57.760 --> 0:37:00.279
<v Speaker 1>Happy Days on the Vernon Shirley also really at it.

0:37:00.440 --> 0:37:02.719
<v Speaker 1>But Joey could not have been happier. He met the

0:37:02.840 --> 0:37:05.640
<v Speaker 1>challenge of having his own romantic storyline, and it was

0:37:05.680 --> 0:37:08.719
<v Speaker 1>just it was we felt so good about it. The

0:37:08.760 --> 0:37:11.200
<v Speaker 1>other thing I wanted to say was, you know we

0:37:11.200 --> 0:37:14.520
<v Speaker 1>we we exploited Joey's character in a sense in season

0:37:14.560 --> 0:37:16.520
<v Speaker 1>four and Schruff knows this because we had this great

0:37:16.800 --> 0:37:19.560
<v Speaker 1>storyline for Dylan where he's gonna get scammed out of

0:37:19.600 --> 0:37:21.920
<v Speaker 1>his money. And in the Christmas episode where it's all

0:37:21.960 --> 0:37:26.239
<v Speaker 1>starting to go down and Kelly Taylor played by Jenny

0:37:26.400 --> 0:37:29.239
<v Speaker 1>does not trust these people at all. It's nath who

0:37:29.280 --> 0:37:32.759
<v Speaker 1>says to Dylan, come on, Dylan, it's Christmas. You have

0:37:32.840 --> 0:37:35.680
<v Speaker 1>to trust people. And Dylan does and he gets scammed

0:37:35.680 --> 0:37:39.120
<v Speaker 1>out of all this. He gets the worst advice I

0:37:39.120 --> 0:37:41.319
<v Speaker 1>remember telling the last time I saw Joe was that

0:37:41.400 --> 0:37:42.880
<v Speaker 1>zoo we had and I told the story and he

0:37:42.920 --> 0:37:45.600
<v Speaker 1>had a big laugh at him, because, yeah, he had

0:37:45.640 --> 0:37:51.560
<v Speaker 1>the worst for Jenny and Tory. You're doing season four,

0:37:51.600 --> 0:37:53.759
<v Speaker 1>you get you're coming to it pretty soon, you'll be

0:37:53.800 --> 0:37:57.239
<v Speaker 1>able to for all. You can see all that play out. Yeah,

0:37:57.280 --> 0:37:59.920
<v Speaker 1>it's it's good stuff. You're gonna love it. Yeah, Hey, Larry,

0:38:00.040 --> 0:38:03.000
<v Speaker 1>did did we screen that Roger Corman movie? Was that

0:38:03.120 --> 0:38:05.520
<v Speaker 1>the episode where we did the Roger Corman Film Festival?

0:38:05.560 --> 0:38:08.919
<v Speaker 1>Exactly exactly? It was? It was fade in, Fade Out

0:38:09.000 --> 0:38:13.600
<v Speaker 1>is the episode. But yeah, we did that one, that's right.

0:38:13.640 --> 0:38:17.640
<v Speaker 1>I remember that, and Roger came within a You got

0:38:17.760 --> 0:38:22.479
<v Speaker 1>Roger Corman to do a cameo? Yes, fantastic, we did

0:38:22.760 --> 0:38:25.200
<v Speaker 1>because because I because I did a Roger Corman movie.

0:38:25.400 --> 0:38:27.359
<v Speaker 1>And I sent him an email and I was like, hey, Roger,

0:38:27.400 --> 0:38:29.680
<v Speaker 1>I don't even remember, but I made a movie for

0:38:29.719 --> 0:38:32.239
<v Speaker 1>you back in the eighties. I'm directing an episode. And

0:38:33.000 --> 0:38:34.400
<v Speaker 1>he was like, yeah, sure, I'll come and do it.

0:38:35.880 --> 0:38:39.920
<v Speaker 1>That's a still around God bless him. Yeah, it was

0:38:39.960 --> 0:38:43.040
<v Speaker 1>really cool. Do you guys remember when we saw him

0:38:43.120 --> 0:38:45.960
<v Speaker 1>at them wasn't really the peach Pit, but it was

0:38:46.000 --> 0:38:48.480
<v Speaker 1>just a few years ago when they did that event

0:38:49.320 --> 0:38:54.200
<v Speaker 1>um for bhop up and he came hand to the

0:38:54.200 --> 0:38:58.840
<v Speaker 1>pop up and I'll never forget because Joey not Roger Corman, correct,

0:39:04.160 --> 0:39:06.640
<v Speaker 1>but he you know, he he was already starting to

0:39:06.719 --> 0:39:09.879
<v Speaker 1>suffer from Alzheimer's at that point, and it was we

0:39:09.880 --> 0:39:12.359
<v Speaker 1>weren't sure what we were going to get and how

0:39:12.400 --> 0:39:15.000
<v Speaker 1>it was gonna, you know, affect him and how it

0:39:15.080 --> 0:39:17.400
<v Speaker 1>was going to go. But I just remember he was

0:39:17.480 --> 0:39:21.040
<v Speaker 1>exactly the same as he always was, patting, getting a

0:39:21.040 --> 0:39:24.960
<v Speaker 1>little booty pat in there, give a little extra squeeze,

0:39:25.160 --> 0:39:27.359
<v Speaker 1>you know, and and and just feeling that love from

0:39:27.440 --> 0:39:30.719
<v Speaker 1>Joey like it had never changed. Jen and I had

0:39:30.719 --> 0:39:33.200
<v Speaker 1>the opportunity to work with him again when we did

0:39:33.280 --> 0:39:36.239
<v Speaker 1>Mystery Girls in two thousand and fourteen, and that was

0:39:36.320 --> 0:39:39.040
<v Speaker 1>such an honor. And that was the first time that

0:39:39.080 --> 0:39:41.759
<v Speaker 1>he really divulged to us, you know, his personal struggles

0:39:41.800 --> 0:39:44.440
<v Speaker 1>and what was going on, and he said, I'm so

0:39:44.560 --> 0:39:46.440
<v Speaker 1>nervous and I'm not gonna be able to do it.

0:39:46.960 --> 0:39:50.120
<v Speaker 1>He was Joey. He showed up like he was awesome

0:39:50.160 --> 0:39:54.160
<v Speaker 1>on tape day in front of a live audience. He

0:39:54.280 --> 0:40:09.640
<v Speaker 1>just flashed that smile and everybody was like, oh my crazy,

0:40:06.719 --> 0:40:13.000
<v Speaker 1>oh Tory. I mean, there's an episode in the last episode,

0:40:13.120 --> 0:40:16.080
<v Speaker 1>there's a great scene where you asked him to walk

0:40:16.120 --> 0:40:19.560
<v Speaker 1>you down the aisle the donna does sorry I connect

0:40:19.600 --> 0:40:23.759
<v Speaker 1>you to all, don't worry, But I think what's really

0:40:23.760 --> 0:40:25.719
<v Speaker 1>interesting is the way you asked me. I feel like

0:40:25.880 --> 0:40:28.000
<v Speaker 1>fans or when I watch back that moment. It's such

0:40:28.040 --> 0:40:30.840
<v Speaker 1>a powerful moment because we want that, we want to

0:40:30.880 --> 0:40:34.360
<v Speaker 1>see Nat incorporated into the end of the series in

0:40:34.400 --> 0:40:36.480
<v Speaker 1>a way, and it's a really touching moment. Do you

0:40:36.480 --> 0:40:39.360
<v Speaker 1>remember doing that and what was that like to shoot

0:40:39.440 --> 0:40:41.160
<v Speaker 1>and do, especially at that time when the show is

0:40:41.200 --> 0:40:45.000
<v Speaker 1>coming to end, right, Um, So, the writers had talked

0:40:45.040 --> 0:40:47.719
<v Speaker 1>to me about it, and you know, since my dad

0:40:47.760 --> 0:40:50.680
<v Speaker 1>on the show had passed away, they said, who would

0:40:50.719 --> 0:40:52.719
<v Speaker 1>walk Donna down the aisle? There was an idea of

0:40:52.800 --> 0:40:56.400
<v Speaker 1>police walking her my mom down the aisle, and I

0:40:56.400 --> 0:41:00.319
<v Speaker 1>immediately said, are you open to Joey walk you meet

0:41:00.360 --> 0:41:04.040
<v Speaker 1>down the aisle? I feel like that's the heartbreaking moment,

0:41:04.120 --> 0:41:06.160
<v Speaker 1>like she lost her dad, but this is her second

0:41:06.239 --> 0:41:08.239
<v Speaker 1>dad really because throughout the years, that's what he was

0:41:08.280 --> 0:41:11.800
<v Speaker 1>liked everyone, that's what he became. And you know, personally,

0:41:11.880 --> 0:41:14.400
<v Speaker 1>Joey and I were so close. I was like, this

0:41:14.480 --> 0:41:17.239
<v Speaker 1>is a real relationship on an off camera like this

0:41:17.280 --> 0:41:20.160
<v Speaker 1>would be an honor for him to actually walk me

0:41:20.280 --> 0:41:23.400
<v Speaker 1>down the aisle. Um And they were excited about the

0:41:23.440 --> 0:41:26.359
<v Speaker 1>idea and wrote that in so and I think we

0:41:26.360 --> 0:41:28.080
<v Speaker 1>were actually because I think a lot of people were like,

0:41:28.080 --> 0:41:29.400
<v Speaker 1>that's kind of weird that it was filmed at the

0:41:29.400 --> 0:41:31.920
<v Speaker 1>peach Pit after dark. I think for some reason we

0:41:32.000 --> 0:41:33.759
<v Speaker 1>ran out of time were so it was supposed to

0:41:33.800 --> 0:41:37.239
<v Speaker 1>take place in the peach Pit, but um, they were

0:41:37.280 --> 0:41:38.640
<v Speaker 1>on the set for peach after dark. We had to

0:41:38.640 --> 0:41:41.759
<v Speaker 1>shuffle things around. So that's where Donna asked him. He

0:41:41.800 --> 0:41:44.239
<v Speaker 1>came over and Donna asked him to walk her down

0:41:44.280 --> 0:41:47.360
<v Speaker 1>the aisle there. Oh, I know, I know why. I

0:41:47.480 --> 0:41:49.920
<v Speaker 1>know why you weren't in the peach Pit because they

0:41:49.960 --> 0:41:52.920
<v Speaker 1>because they had struck the set. It was already gone.

0:41:55.000 --> 0:41:59.919
<v Speaker 1>And I'll tell you because this is what I was doing.

0:42:00.080 --> 0:42:03.399
<v Speaker 1>And yeah, I was doing a pilot for Fox at

0:42:03.400 --> 0:42:06.680
<v Speaker 1>the time, a kind of a low budget. Um, you

0:42:06.760 --> 0:42:08.920
<v Speaker 1>were really low bunk, even a lower budget than the

0:42:08.960 --> 0:42:14.680
<v Speaker 1>first season of nine. It was and and and so

0:42:14.840 --> 0:42:17.800
<v Speaker 1>I needed a set. I needed a stage, and Paul

0:42:17.920 --> 0:42:20.440
<v Speaker 1>gave it to me because you were already struck it

0:42:21.400 --> 0:42:24.640
<v Speaker 1>and were filming when I don't know if you guys

0:42:24.760 --> 0:42:29.480
<v Speaker 1>remember this Rosen World crashed the wedding, Skaron and I

0:42:29.800 --> 0:42:32.000
<v Speaker 1>and all three of my kids who really wanted to

0:42:32.040 --> 0:42:34.759
<v Speaker 1>be there. We're there. We've got the pictures to prove it.

0:42:36.360 --> 0:42:38.760
<v Speaker 1>And when I left the Hilton, he was at the Hilton,

0:42:38.880 --> 0:42:43.000
<v Speaker 1>right the Beverly Hilton. Yeah, I drove to the back

0:42:43.040 --> 0:42:46.320
<v Speaker 1>to uh our our Calvert Street and ready for the

0:42:46.440 --> 0:42:49.120
<v Speaker 1>night shoot that we were doing the stage. That's how

0:42:49.200 --> 0:42:51.359
<v Speaker 1>I know. But it was the peach Pit after Park

0:42:51.400 --> 0:42:56.359
<v Speaker 1>where we filmed, not the original peach Pit. You just

0:42:56.360 --> 0:42:58.399
<v Speaker 1>blew my mind. I did not know the peach Pits

0:42:58.400 --> 0:43:01.480
<v Speaker 1>set had been struck already because that was what we

0:43:01.480 --> 0:43:04.080
<v Speaker 1>had two more episodes to go or was it episode

0:43:04.080 --> 0:43:08.120
<v Speaker 1>before the finale? I did a hundred three episodes the

0:43:08.120 --> 0:43:15.439
<v Speaker 1>Spelling Company, I know, they don't they just okay, wipe

0:43:15.440 --> 0:43:18.160
<v Speaker 1>that off the books trail. Come on. I think it's

0:43:18.160 --> 0:43:20.000
<v Speaker 1>cool that it's at the after dark and it's not

0:43:20.120 --> 0:43:22.120
<v Speaker 1>at the Peach but I know, maybe it makes more sense.

0:43:22.120 --> 0:43:25.240
<v Speaker 1>But I like the intimate and that's not wearing his outfit.

0:43:25.239 --> 0:43:27.719
<v Speaker 1>He's in he's in the street clothes and he's just

0:43:27.760 --> 0:43:31.040
<v Speaker 1>having a conversation. You know, it's not you're not going

0:43:31.080 --> 0:43:34.240
<v Speaker 1>to the diner to get to ask him, you know, lindsay,

0:43:34.239 --> 0:43:37.000
<v Speaker 1>do you have any kind of memories of, you know,

0:43:37.040 --> 0:43:40.280
<v Speaker 1>any scene work that you did with him or anything

0:43:40.320 --> 0:43:45.200
<v Speaker 1>like that. I think you know, Ian and I did

0:43:45.200 --> 0:43:48.560
<v Speaker 1>a lot of scenes in the peach pit when we

0:43:48.560 --> 0:43:52.120
<v Speaker 1>were coming up with our schemes and plans for the

0:43:52.160 --> 0:43:59.719
<v Speaker 1>tabloid that we wrote for the Beat. I don't really

0:43:59.719 --> 0:44:02.760
<v Speaker 1>remember remember the specifics of the scenes, but I remember loving,

0:44:03.040 --> 0:44:05.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, the moments. For me as an actor, sometimes

0:44:05.400 --> 0:44:08.680
<v Speaker 1>that I remember the most are the in between the

0:44:08.719 --> 0:44:11.000
<v Speaker 1>scenes and you get to go and sit in your

0:44:11.080 --> 0:44:13.040
<v Speaker 1>chair with your name on it, and you get to

0:44:13.120 --> 0:44:15.799
<v Speaker 1>chat with the other actors, and I have I have

0:44:15.920 --> 0:44:19.120
<v Speaker 1>vivid memories of sitting with him on the stage waiting

0:44:19.120 --> 0:44:21.440
<v Speaker 1>for a you know, a lightning change or you know,

0:44:21.480 --> 0:44:24.000
<v Speaker 1>to hit our marks. And you know, like I said before,

0:44:24.040 --> 0:44:27.080
<v Speaker 1>I just I really liked being in his presence because

0:44:27.120 --> 0:44:29.840
<v Speaker 1>he was a pro, and he was funny, and he

0:44:29.920 --> 0:44:33.080
<v Speaker 1>always had stories, and I just I felt, you know,

0:44:33.560 --> 0:44:36.120
<v Speaker 1>happy to waste some time with him on those on

0:44:36.200 --> 0:44:40.759
<v Speaker 1>those stages and dark sets. You know, we're also joined

0:44:40.800 --> 0:44:46.280
<v Speaker 1>by Michael Lang. Michael's so excited to see you. Any

0:44:46.320 --> 0:44:50.839
<v Speaker 1>episodes of the show did you direct, Michael No, I

0:44:50.880 --> 0:44:57.400
<v Speaker 1>think twelve. I was believing obviously one of our favorites

0:44:57.440 --> 0:45:00.680
<v Speaker 1>because we loved you so much. Oh my god, thank you.

0:45:01.200 --> 0:45:04.480
<v Speaker 1>I always Michael. Whenever there's something that's very complicated. It

0:45:04.560 --> 0:45:07.279
<v Speaker 1>seems like they're just like the multiple days, there's gonna

0:45:07.280 --> 0:45:09.239
<v Speaker 1>be a lot of action. They're just going Michaelang, He'll

0:45:09.239 --> 0:45:15.560
<v Speaker 1>figure it out. Yeah, I was. You guys were my

0:45:15.600 --> 0:45:18.319
<v Speaker 1>favorite show. Whenever I do panels or whatever and they

0:45:18.360 --> 0:45:21.000
<v Speaker 1>say what was your favorite show to work on? And

0:45:21.040 --> 0:45:23.480
<v Speaker 1>I always I always say nine o two when I

0:45:23.560 --> 0:45:26.920
<v Speaker 1>was was the It was the greatest show because it

0:45:27.040 --> 0:45:30.239
<v Speaker 1>knew what it was and it knew what it was

0:45:30.239 --> 0:45:34.480
<v Speaker 1>supposed to do, and it knew that I knew what

0:45:34.480 --> 0:45:35.920
<v Speaker 1>it was and knew what it was supposed to do,

0:45:36.000 --> 0:45:40.279
<v Speaker 1>and it was about things that were important to human beings. So,

0:45:41.160 --> 0:45:44.480
<v Speaker 1>and you guys were also great. I mean people would say, oh,

0:45:44.600 --> 0:45:48.200
<v Speaker 1>were there any stories? I would say, the only good ones.

0:45:48.280 --> 0:45:53.640
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you guys were professional and always prepared and fantastic,

0:45:54.360 --> 0:45:56.239
<v Speaker 1>and it was a great show to work I loved it.

0:45:56.360 --> 0:46:00.200
<v Speaker 1>Do you remember, like what episode uh that stan out

0:46:00.200 --> 0:46:04.359
<v Speaker 1>to you that you directed with Joey? I don't know.

0:46:04.640 --> 0:46:07.799
<v Speaker 1>I mean not really because his parts were always relatively small.

0:46:07.840 --> 0:46:09.919
<v Speaker 1>I mean when I remember, the most was the one

0:46:10.120 --> 0:46:14.919
<v Speaker 1>with the where which we did which which had the

0:46:14.920 --> 0:46:18.319
<v Speaker 1>the fair whatever with all the rides and whatever. Yes,

0:46:19.560 --> 0:46:23.239
<v Speaker 1>Mr Wash Coast of Washington. Yes, exactly, Michael. I was

0:46:23.320 --> 0:46:29.080
<v Speaker 1>just out. I was just out addressing the California Coastal Commission.

0:46:29.520 --> 0:46:33.280
<v Speaker 1>And they meet up in the top of Malibu Canyon

0:46:33.840 --> 0:46:36.040
<v Speaker 1>where where they have a meeting in and all that,

0:46:36.239 --> 0:46:40.560
<v Speaker 1>And just down the road was that Suker College. Yeah,

0:46:41.200 --> 0:46:45.080
<v Speaker 1>that's crazy. But I actually was getting sort of thinking

0:46:45.080 --> 0:46:49.879
<v Speaker 1>about today. I thought of a story about Joey that

0:46:50.239 --> 0:46:54.640
<v Speaker 1>completely you know, captures him in my mind. And here

0:46:54.640 --> 0:46:56.600
<v Speaker 1>it is. And first of all, he was one of

0:46:56.600 --> 0:46:59.000
<v Speaker 1>the very few people they called me Mike, and it

0:46:59.040 --> 0:47:04.200
<v Speaker 1>was fine with me. But uh so, I had just

0:47:04.280 --> 0:47:06.960
<v Speaker 1>gotten a new car, which I was very excited about,

0:47:07.480 --> 0:47:10.160
<v Speaker 1>and it had gotten a little bit dirty, and I was,

0:47:10.640 --> 0:47:13.799
<v Speaker 1>you know, riding to the set. It was whatever, you know,

0:47:13.960 --> 0:47:17.719
<v Speaker 1>I think it was a slightly later called, and I

0:47:17.800 --> 0:47:19.840
<v Speaker 1>decided to get the car washed. So I left a

0:47:19.880 --> 0:47:22.319
<v Speaker 1>little earlier. As a director, I would always get to

0:47:22.320 --> 0:47:27.040
<v Speaker 1>the set a half hour before crew call always. Um

0:47:27.160 --> 0:47:29.479
<v Speaker 1>So I figured, okay, I have enough time. The car

0:47:29.600 --> 0:47:34.840
<v Speaker 1>wash was interminably slow, I mean ridiculous, and I'm pouring sweat.

0:47:34.880 --> 0:47:41.200
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'm just so exasperated. Come on, guys. Um So, finally,

0:47:41.680 --> 0:47:44.959
<v Speaker 1>you know, they get the car done, and I had

0:47:45.040 --> 0:47:49.040
<v Speaker 1>like ten minutes to get there before crew call, and

0:47:49.040 --> 0:47:53.279
<v Speaker 1>it was probably a nine minute drive. So I go,

0:47:53.680 --> 0:47:59.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm probably driving like eighty miles an hour down Ventura Boulevard. Um,

0:47:59.040 --> 0:48:02.200
<v Speaker 1>not very good. So I finally I screech up and

0:48:02.239 --> 0:48:04.480
<v Speaker 1>I just parked right we were. The first scene we

0:48:04.480 --> 0:48:06.520
<v Speaker 1>were shooting was in the peach bit, so I screech

0:48:06.680 --> 0:48:10.520
<v Speaker 1>up and park right in front of this basically in

0:48:10.560 --> 0:48:16.080
<v Speaker 1>the set. So you know, I'm the director who can't market. Said,

0:48:16.320 --> 0:48:19.759
<v Speaker 1>Joey is out there right, and he know, you know,

0:48:19.840 --> 0:48:22.600
<v Speaker 1>we've talked this. You know, it was probably the fifth

0:48:22.640 --> 0:48:25.880
<v Speaker 1>or sixth episode, so we had talked and I'm always

0:48:25.920 --> 0:48:27.920
<v Speaker 1>sort of proud that I always get there early, and

0:48:28.120 --> 0:48:29.839
<v Speaker 1>so I'm sure I mentioned that. So he's out there

0:48:29.840 --> 0:48:39.160
<v Speaker 1>and he's going like this right. So not only did

0:48:39.160 --> 0:48:41.840
<v Speaker 1>it not bother me that he did it, which normally,

0:48:42.000 --> 0:48:44.360
<v Speaker 1>like an a d ever did that to me, I

0:48:44.400 --> 0:48:48.200
<v Speaker 1>would throw them off the set, but like, it's Joey,

0:48:48.239 --> 0:48:50.480
<v Speaker 1>So how can you get mad at this guy? And

0:48:50.560 --> 0:48:53.799
<v Speaker 1>he's right? So I jumped out of the car. He

0:48:53.840 --> 0:48:58.200
<v Speaker 1>had already gotten all the actors assembled right and and

0:48:58.360 --> 0:49:01.120
<v Speaker 1>made sure, you know, I think I might have called

0:49:01.160 --> 0:49:03.560
<v Speaker 1>the a D to say I might. It's gonna be

0:49:03.600 --> 0:49:07.720
<v Speaker 1>pretty close anyway, And he was just so sweet about

0:49:07.760 --> 0:49:09.640
<v Speaker 1>it and just you know, he did that sort of

0:49:09.680 --> 0:49:14.560
<v Speaker 1>fake thing. It was just such a memorable moment of

0:49:14.640 --> 0:49:18.319
<v Speaker 1>him and how he could just sort of he could

0:49:18.360 --> 0:49:21.200
<v Speaker 1>just be He was such a you know, like an

0:49:21.239 --> 0:49:25.240
<v Speaker 1>authentic person. He was a great guy, really great guy.

0:49:25.440 --> 0:49:28.439
<v Speaker 1>And I hadn't had that memory until you know this.

0:49:29.880 --> 0:49:33.799
<v Speaker 1>It was pretty cool. We we've talked a lot of

0:49:34.320 --> 0:49:38.680
<v Speaker 1>business and onset about Joey. We haven't talked um offset

0:49:38.719 --> 0:49:42.319
<v Speaker 1>with Joey. But I was lucky enough to be able

0:49:42.360 --> 0:49:45.360
<v Speaker 1>to go to quite a few Playboy Mansion parties with

0:49:45.640 --> 0:49:52.960
<v Speaker 1>Joey talk yes, and he was he was like the

0:49:53.040 --> 0:49:55.440
<v Speaker 1>life of the party, Like he was the king there,

0:49:55.440 --> 0:49:58.279
<v Speaker 1>Like he was friends with half. He was old Hollywood, right,

0:49:58.360 --> 0:50:01.720
<v Speaker 1>so you know he was there and he was always

0:50:01.760 --> 0:50:05.680
<v Speaker 1>so respected there. So I just have those memories and

0:50:05.760 --> 0:50:08.160
<v Speaker 1>being able to go and be like, oh my gosh,

0:50:08.440 --> 0:50:11.759
<v Speaker 1>like not like Donna drunk at prom, Donna drunk in

0:50:11.800 --> 0:50:16.440
<v Speaker 1>the Playboy Mansion with nat omg. You know, we just

0:50:16.560 --> 0:50:20.960
<v Speaker 1>always had the best times. And yeah, that was always

0:50:20.960 --> 0:50:23.240
<v Speaker 1>a standout and I know, jenn and I have mentioned

0:50:23.239 --> 0:50:25.440
<v Speaker 1>on the show, like we always look forward to like

0:50:25.880 --> 0:50:28.439
<v Speaker 1>late nights. We'd be filming with the group Friday night,

0:50:28.520 --> 0:50:32.759
<v Speaker 1>and you know sometimes we put in plastic cubs and like, sorry, Chuck,

0:50:32.840 --> 0:50:35.320
<v Speaker 1>Larry and and Michael, you shouldn't be listening to this,

0:50:35.480 --> 0:50:40.680
<v Speaker 1>but you know, we'd have some alcoholic beverage. It was

0:50:40.760 --> 0:50:43.560
<v Speaker 1>like nighttime. We'd have one big group scene. We each

0:50:43.560 --> 0:50:47.400
<v Speaker 1>had like one line and then we're like we're okay, um.

0:50:47.560 --> 0:50:51.400
<v Speaker 1>But Joey and that infamous briefcase that he had would

0:50:52.040 --> 0:50:55.160
<v Speaker 1>pop it open. Always had like little mini bottles. He'd

0:50:55.160 --> 0:50:58.520
<v Speaker 1>have like a makeshift bar in there. This is after

0:50:58.600 --> 0:51:02.640
<v Speaker 1>we were all legal. But like, yeah, we could go

0:51:02.719 --> 0:51:04.799
<v Speaker 1>and be like, O great, yeah we'll have some. So

0:51:05.040 --> 0:51:07.880
<v Speaker 1>like Joey's room was like the fun room to go into.

0:51:08.880 --> 0:51:10.439
<v Speaker 1>You know, he just should have come it. You guys

0:51:10.440 --> 0:51:12.400
<v Speaker 1>were on the set doing that. You could have come

0:51:12.440 --> 0:51:18.440
<v Speaker 1>into Paul's office about then it would be no m

0:51:20.560 --> 0:51:23.479
<v Speaker 1>Joey always had that too available, But you know I didn't.

0:51:23.480 --> 0:51:25.600
<v Speaker 1>I didn't want to call everyone out. Okay, wait, so

0:51:25.680 --> 0:51:34.360
<v Speaker 1>you're saying we could have merged parties between us. Jenny,

0:51:34.360 --> 0:51:35.839
<v Speaker 1>did you get to go to any of those kind

0:51:35.880 --> 0:51:40.480
<v Speaker 1>of cool parties with with with Joe I didn't I

0:51:40.520 --> 0:51:43.480
<v Speaker 1>think I was having a baby or something. You don't

0:51:43.480 --> 0:51:45.200
<v Speaker 1>really want to hang out at the Playboy Mansion when

0:51:45.200 --> 0:51:49.680
<v Speaker 1>you're like eight months pregnant, fair enough? Yeah, um, you

0:51:49.719 --> 0:51:51.640
<v Speaker 1>did get to have a couple of experiences, though it's

0:51:51.640 --> 0:51:54.239
<v Speaker 1>some rap parties with him. Like we we definitely like

0:51:54.360 --> 0:51:57.919
<v Speaker 1>had fun with him at rat parties. Oh yeah, he's

0:51:58.000 --> 0:52:00.360
<v Speaker 1>the guy we wanted to hang out with him. Like, Yeah,

0:52:00.600 --> 0:52:02.960
<v Speaker 1>it wasn't weird at all that he was a lot

0:52:02.960 --> 0:52:05.840
<v Speaker 1>older than us. No, not at all. He was so fun.

0:52:05.920 --> 0:52:07.600
<v Speaker 1>That's why I felt it was important to bring up

0:52:07.640 --> 0:52:10.200
<v Speaker 1>that part of it too. While he was like someone

0:52:10.280 --> 0:52:12.400
<v Speaker 1>we definitely looked up to on said, he was so

0:52:12.480 --> 0:52:15.760
<v Speaker 1>professional and so kind and helped us with our personal problems,

0:52:15.800 --> 0:52:17.799
<v Speaker 1>Like he also was like that fun guy to go

0:52:17.880 --> 0:52:23.240
<v Speaker 1>out with and it was like no age difference. Yeah, wait, Lynce,

0:52:23.280 --> 0:52:25.239
<v Speaker 1>did we ever go out with Joey? I was just

0:52:25.280 --> 0:52:26.880
<v Speaker 1>trying to think. I was like, was he with us

0:52:26.880 --> 0:52:28.799
<v Speaker 1>that night at the sushi restaurant when I fell off

0:52:28.800 --> 0:52:30.799
<v Speaker 1>the table and pulled the pot of plant out of

0:52:30.800 --> 0:52:36.960
<v Speaker 1>the thing. Don't believe he was to hear that story.

0:52:37.080 --> 0:52:38.719
<v Speaker 1>I know, I don't care if he was there or not.

0:52:42.239 --> 0:52:44.279
<v Speaker 1>And also, by the way, I didn't know you guys

0:52:44.280 --> 0:52:47.479
<v Speaker 1>had brief cases of bottles of things on the set.

0:52:47.640 --> 0:52:49.480
<v Speaker 1>You didn't let me in on that until I think

0:52:49.520 --> 0:52:52.680
<v Speaker 1>you're back. Well, maybe around the time of the Donna's

0:52:52.880 --> 0:52:58.040
<v Speaker 1>bachelorette party and Mrs Teasley was there and just to

0:52:58.080 --> 0:53:00.719
<v Speaker 1>come like full circle and you and we had real,

0:53:01.120 --> 0:53:06.359
<v Speaker 1>like lives jello shots. We had jello shots. I know

0:53:06.400 --> 0:53:10.000
<v Speaker 1>it was not a little this I know imber party,

0:53:10.080 --> 0:53:12.800
<v Speaker 1>but I don't have no idea I was being honored.

0:53:12.920 --> 0:53:16.919
<v Speaker 1>I don't remember, okay, good and I remember everything trying

0:53:16.920 --> 0:53:21.120
<v Speaker 1>to save my line like it was probably who made

0:53:21.200 --> 0:53:28.480
<v Speaker 1>jello shots? You did? I did? I made him. I

0:53:28.520 --> 0:53:31.920
<v Speaker 1>want this so much. Someone made jello shots, but it

0:53:32.000 --> 0:53:35.200
<v Speaker 1>wasn't probably it sounds like something you would do it. Yeah,

0:53:35.280 --> 0:53:38.680
<v Speaker 1>of course. I just want to give Larry and Chuck

0:53:38.719 --> 0:53:41.200
<v Speaker 1>a chance to talk about Denise and Jessica too, because

0:53:41.239 --> 0:53:43.840
<v Speaker 1>we had talked about them earlier, and of course you

0:53:43.920 --> 0:53:47.720
<v Speaker 1>both worked obviously with Jessica. You worked side by side

0:53:47.760 --> 0:53:49.840
<v Speaker 1>with her through the years. Chuck, do you want to

0:53:49.880 --> 0:53:53.520
<v Speaker 1>talk about Jessica Klein? Yeah, you know, we had gets Gabby,

0:53:53.520 --> 0:53:57.360
<v Speaker 1>he's not not here. We did remember the other girls.

0:53:57.400 --> 0:53:58.960
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you I think you both talked

0:53:59.000 --> 0:54:01.640
<v Speaker 1>to him. You know, the girls did the Blaze podcast

0:54:01.880 --> 0:54:06.600
<v Speaker 1>and were they they staged a show when we really

0:54:06.640 --> 0:54:10.560
<v Speaker 1>did the Donna Martin Graduates episode at the Fine Arts

0:54:10.560 --> 0:54:13.319
<v Speaker 1>Theater in front of like eight hundred people, and I

0:54:13.400 --> 0:54:18.319
<v Speaker 1>played that insufferable superintendent. And Denise Dallas was in it.

0:54:18.480 --> 0:54:22.040
<v Speaker 1>She played Mrs Teasley and and you know, and and

0:54:22.160 --> 0:54:26.040
<v Speaker 1>uh and in any way, um, that's it was so

0:54:26.200 --> 0:54:28.640
<v Speaker 1>much fun because, you know, as Pete knows a little bit,

0:54:29.080 --> 0:54:31.080
<v Speaker 1>you guys got to hang out on the set with

0:54:31.280 --> 0:54:33.560
<v Speaker 1>Larry and I. We were in the writer's room or

0:54:33.760 --> 0:54:37.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm talking production with our director friends like Mike Goland

0:54:38.120 --> 0:54:40.600
<v Speaker 1>and Dan Addis and whoever else. And so, I you know,

0:54:40.760 --> 0:54:45.520
<v Speaker 1>wasn't able, you know, to to actually even know the

0:54:45.600 --> 0:54:48.120
<v Speaker 1>kind of regular and and we're with us until we

0:54:48.160 --> 0:54:51.880
<v Speaker 1>did this podcast here and having that great experience getting

0:54:51.920 --> 0:54:54.120
<v Speaker 1>to work with her as an actor, for God's sakes,

0:54:54.200 --> 0:54:58.839
<v Speaker 1>you know, so and uh and Jessica, I mean, I

0:54:58.840 --> 0:55:01.560
<v Speaker 1>don't think that. I mean, and we've talked about this

0:55:01.600 --> 0:55:04.839
<v Speaker 1>in our podcast, you know, I don't know if you

0:55:04.840 --> 0:55:08.040
<v Speaker 1>guys felt this, if you've talked about it ever, you know,

0:55:08.200 --> 0:55:11.319
<v Speaker 1>Darren announces he's doing another series, and why don't you

0:55:11.400 --> 0:55:13.640
<v Speaker 1>just yank out my heart? You know, I mean, he

0:55:13.760 --> 0:55:16.960
<v Speaker 1>was a huge part of the production and what are

0:55:16.960 --> 0:55:19.200
<v Speaker 1>we gonna do? How what do we? And and Steve

0:55:19.640 --> 0:55:24.040
<v Speaker 1>and Jessica and I and Karen really resolved to make

0:55:24.080 --> 0:55:27.440
<v Speaker 1>season three the best one we could possibly do without him.

0:55:27.520 --> 0:55:30.960
<v Speaker 1>And so you know that was Jessica, That was that

0:55:31.040 --> 0:55:33.400
<v Speaker 1>was That was a full major year, you guys know

0:55:33.480 --> 0:55:38.440
<v Speaker 1>it from going to Paris to the Triangle car blowing

0:55:38.520 --> 0:55:41.640
<v Speaker 1>up to graduation. What a thing. And you know, so

0:55:42.239 --> 0:55:45.520
<v Speaker 1>that Jessica and Steve were there every minute of that

0:55:45.719 --> 0:55:50.200
<v Speaker 1>and Mr Hot and was really comforted to see you

0:55:50.280 --> 0:55:54.480
<v Speaker 1>there that day, Jenny. I gotta say though, real quick,

0:55:54.520 --> 0:55:58.520
<v Speaker 1>sorry that to date, we hear this all the time.

0:55:58.719 --> 0:56:04.200
<v Speaker 1>Season three is by far the fan fave season. Pete,

0:56:04.719 --> 0:56:09.440
<v Speaker 1>are we wrong? Everybody? Does? I actually like season four more?

0:56:09.480 --> 0:56:10.920
<v Speaker 1>But that's just me. I'm sorry. I don't need to

0:56:10.920 --> 0:56:13.160
<v Speaker 1>put my way my thoughts in. But season three and

0:56:13.320 --> 0:56:17.239
<v Speaker 1>three and four, that's what everyone says. Yeah, season four

0:56:17.320 --> 0:56:20.000
<v Speaker 1>had Mullen. You know, it's pretty hard to stop that.

0:56:20.480 --> 0:56:23.200
<v Speaker 1>Larry Mullen, Right, yes, Larry, do you want to weigh

0:56:23.200 --> 0:56:26.920
<v Speaker 1>in on Jessica? You know, you know, I came in

0:56:26.920 --> 0:56:29.400
<v Speaker 1>in season four, so Jessica and Steve was at the

0:56:29.440 --> 0:56:32.640
<v Speaker 1>height of their powers, and uh, you know, Jessica was really,

0:56:32.640 --> 0:56:35.880
<v Speaker 1>really bright, and you know, she understood how to frame

0:56:35.920 --> 0:56:38.680
<v Speaker 1>his story and she was basically we've talked about the poor,

0:56:38.760 --> 0:56:41.279
<v Speaker 1>but she was the go to person to pitch the

0:56:41.320 --> 0:56:44.520
<v Speaker 1>story to, you know, to Mr Spelling, you know, because

0:56:44.560 --> 0:56:46.840
<v Speaker 1>that's a you know, a terrifying aspect. We got it.

0:56:46.880 --> 0:56:48.920
<v Speaker 1>Now we've done all this work, We've gotta not present

0:56:49.000 --> 0:56:51.319
<v Speaker 1>the stories to Mr Spelling. Of course he wants to

0:56:51.360 --> 0:56:53.319
<v Speaker 1>know what Donna is doing first, but she knew that,

0:56:53.400 --> 0:56:55.839
<v Speaker 1>she knew to do that. But but now it's all

0:56:55.840 --> 0:56:58.200
<v Speaker 1>our all our our our goodies are in her, you know,

0:56:58.320 --> 0:57:01.120
<v Speaker 1>in her in her bag basic and she would always

0:57:01.120 --> 0:57:02.839
<v Speaker 1>do it. She would be brilliant at it, and that

0:57:02.840 --> 0:57:05.000
<v Speaker 1>that was her strong thing. The other thing, you know,

0:57:05.640 --> 0:57:09.359
<v Speaker 1>se her were there. She was the typest. Yeah. Also

0:57:09.440 --> 0:57:14.000
<v Speaker 1>the network too, and the network you weren't friendly house. Yeah,

0:57:14.600 --> 0:57:16.680
<v Speaker 1>they were ready to oh, that one's not gonna work.

0:57:16.760 --> 0:57:19.400
<v Speaker 1>So you know, we had and she was great at that,

0:57:19.600 --> 0:57:22.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, she had a great grasp and it's just

0:57:22.200 --> 0:57:24.160
<v Speaker 1>it's it's tragic because she was young, you know. I

0:57:24.200 --> 0:57:27.520
<v Speaker 1>mean it's kind of upsetting, you know, but we loved it.

0:57:27.600 --> 0:57:28.960
<v Speaker 1>We got a chance to you know, we had to

0:57:29.040 --> 0:57:31.360
<v Speaker 1>chance to kind of reunite with her and all the

0:57:31.400 --> 0:57:33.200
<v Speaker 1>other people with her too over the last day a

0:57:33.240 --> 0:57:48.840
<v Speaker 1>couple of years. So you know, there's that Wow, this

0:57:49.000 --> 0:57:52.120
<v Speaker 1>is so nice to get together and talk about Joey

0:57:52.160 --> 0:57:59.840
<v Speaker 1>and Jessica, Denise. It's it's good. Oh, Chuck, we have

0:58:00.000 --> 0:58:02.520
<v Speaker 1>a question for you about Denise because we were trying

0:58:02.520 --> 0:58:05.400
<v Speaker 1>to figure this out. So how did the role of

0:58:05.840 --> 0:58:08.680
<v Speaker 1>Mrs Teasley because originally we saw she was in it

0:58:08.960 --> 0:58:14.320
<v Speaker 1>as she was with the twins, the twin testing that

0:58:14.360 --> 0:58:18.360
<v Speaker 1>episode or something right, as someone else, and then she

0:58:18.480 --> 0:58:22.200
<v Speaker 1>came back as Mrs Teasley? How did that work? And

0:58:22.720 --> 0:58:25.680
<v Speaker 1>did you plan on her being recurring? I mean that

0:58:25.800 --> 0:58:28.560
<v Speaker 1>part grew and grew and grew. Was that because of

0:58:28.560 --> 0:58:32.720
<v Speaker 1>her personality or how did that come about? Yes? Yes,

0:58:32.760 --> 0:58:36.560
<v Speaker 1>it actually was Tori. She she you know, and I

0:58:36.600 --> 0:58:39.600
<v Speaker 1>had to be reminded of that, but it was you know,

0:58:39.640 --> 0:58:44.440
<v Speaker 1>every once in a while, Um, Diane Young would come

0:58:44.480 --> 0:58:47.720
<v Speaker 1>in and say, remember this actress did only this part

0:58:47.800 --> 0:58:50.320
<v Speaker 1>and you really liked her, and she did well, and

0:58:50.360 --> 0:58:53.960
<v Speaker 1>she would like to come back. And I think that's

0:58:54.000 --> 0:58:56.880
<v Speaker 1>that's what it was. She wanted to do it, and

0:58:56.960 --> 0:58:59.920
<v Speaker 1>we knew and you know, with it with with Denise

0:59:00.040 --> 0:59:03.680
<v Speaker 1>is quality. Particularly then she's being and very much like

0:59:04.240 --> 0:59:07.760
<v Speaker 1>Karen and my French Um the Janice who who was

0:59:09.280 --> 0:59:12.600
<v Speaker 1>the real life Mrs Teasley that was her last name

0:59:12.680 --> 0:59:16.480
<v Speaker 1>was Teesley. And and but anyway, uh, and we know

0:59:16.600 --> 0:59:19.400
<v Speaker 1>well well, but also I don't really lovely speaking points

0:59:20.000 --> 0:59:22.800
<v Speaker 1>and you know, with the principles in a lot of

0:59:22.800 --> 0:59:25.920
<v Speaker 1>the different schools, you know, there's assemblies, and it's the person.

0:59:25.960 --> 0:59:29.880
<v Speaker 1>We knew she'd have great commands and um, and we

0:59:29.880 --> 0:59:33.160
<v Speaker 1>were you know, and I'm not ashamed to say this

0:59:32.720 --> 0:59:35.560
<v Speaker 1>at this point. You know, we we weren't just like

0:59:35.640 --> 0:59:39.200
<v Speaker 1>we had Henry at the Beach Club and Denise. We

0:59:39.200 --> 0:59:42.000
<v Speaker 1>we knew, you know, here on our main cast we

0:59:42.080 --> 0:59:45.480
<v Speaker 1>didn't have people of color, so we also really looked

0:59:45.520 --> 0:59:49.840
<v Speaker 1>to bolster that and he became such good friends of

0:59:49.880 --> 0:59:54.960
<v Speaker 1>the show and and of all of you. Clearly, Yeah, hi, Karen,

0:59:55.120 --> 1:00:00.280
<v Speaker 1>Karen Rosen, you were just talking about Denise. But you

1:00:00.360 --> 1:00:04.560
<v Speaker 1>know what, if you remember this isn't for Joey. God

1:00:04.600 --> 1:00:07.280
<v Speaker 1>he was. He was always very nice to me. I

1:00:07.320 --> 1:00:10.240
<v Speaker 1>think the ladies will remember this. And I think I

1:00:10.320 --> 1:00:14.120
<v Speaker 1>speak for Jessica. I love a salam um that he

1:00:14.280 --> 1:00:16.960
<v Speaker 1>was kind of flirty, you know, he was like um

1:00:17.560 --> 1:00:21.280
<v Speaker 1>and such diplomatic. It was like a rap party or

1:00:22.160 --> 1:00:25.320
<v Speaker 1>you know, something where there was alcohol available. You know,

1:00:25.400 --> 1:00:29.000
<v Speaker 1>then I would be sure to have a long conversation

1:00:29.120 --> 1:00:33.919
<v Speaker 1>with with Joey, very close, very close quarters, a long conversation.

1:00:34.440 --> 1:00:38.520
<v Speaker 1>And you know, he never acted disappointed in the outcome.

1:00:38.600 --> 1:00:41.040
<v Speaker 1>But you know, I think he was. I think he was.

1:00:42.440 --> 1:00:44.680
<v Speaker 1>He was very friendly, let me just say that. But

1:00:44.760 --> 1:00:47.040
<v Speaker 1>we loved him. He was great. He was. It was,

1:00:47.760 --> 1:00:51.320
<v Speaker 1>you know, a pro, a veteran actor. Great to have

1:00:51.800 --> 1:00:55.479
<v Speaker 1>with the young folks. And it was fun to write

1:00:55.520 --> 1:00:57.560
<v Speaker 1>for now. It was fun to write for him, you

1:00:57.600 --> 1:01:00.200
<v Speaker 1>know what I was thinking relative to Karen with are

1:01:00.280 --> 1:01:03.320
<v Speaker 1>writing for Joey, and and it was one that was

1:01:03.360 --> 1:01:06.480
<v Speaker 1>so important. And when when when Brenda, when we did

1:01:06.520 --> 1:01:10.360
<v Speaker 1>Brenda go to the peach pit and be Laverne, you know,

1:01:10.520 --> 1:01:13.200
<v Speaker 1>which was a crazy notion to have her dress off

1:01:13.560 --> 1:01:16.520
<v Speaker 1>and be that character and One of the reasons it

1:01:16.800 --> 1:01:20.800
<v Speaker 1>worked is because Joey was, you know, as the owner

1:01:20.880 --> 1:01:22.960
<v Speaker 1>of it, wasn't Paul. He just went with it. Oh

1:01:23.240 --> 1:01:26.560
<v Speaker 1>here's this crazy kid doing it, and and going and

1:01:26.560 --> 1:01:29.800
<v Speaker 1>sometimes looking back at that episode and you guys doing

1:01:29.880 --> 1:01:33.120
<v Speaker 1>your I think you were the choreographer of that tory

1:01:33.280 --> 1:01:36.240
<v Speaker 1>of of breaking up as hard to do whatever you

1:01:36.280 --> 1:01:39.120
<v Speaker 1>were doing that did that one in there at least

1:01:39.400 --> 1:01:42.400
<v Speaker 1>bringing up that was a different one. But um, anyway,

1:01:42.720 --> 1:01:46.000
<v Speaker 1>you know that light quality that that he could bring,

1:01:46.040 --> 1:01:48.160
<v Speaker 1>that he made it a place you wanted. You wanted

1:01:48.240 --> 1:01:50.520
<v Speaker 1>to be in the peach pit. You wanted it was

1:01:50.600 --> 1:01:53.480
<v Speaker 1>our version of cheers, everyone knows your name, you know

1:01:53.600 --> 1:01:57.160
<v Speaker 1>kind of thing. It was also a spot where they

1:01:57.160 --> 1:01:59.560
<v Speaker 1>would freaklent. That was one of the places we could

1:01:59.640 --> 1:02:03.040
<v Speaker 1>sometime to have a hole cast scene in the peach

1:02:03.080 --> 1:02:06.840
<v Speaker 1>pit or multiples a lot of people in there, and

1:02:07.600 --> 1:02:09.640
<v Speaker 1>those were I was just saying this to somebody else

1:02:09.680 --> 1:02:14.520
<v Speaker 1>this morning, that when the whole gang got together, everyone's

1:02:14.560 --> 1:02:19.400
<v Speaker 1>individual I'm just gonna say star quality. Their charisma was

1:02:19.560 --> 1:02:23.240
<v Speaker 1>magnified and amplified by being all together, and it was

1:02:23.360 --> 1:02:25.920
<v Speaker 1>like more than the sum of its parts. And it

1:02:25.960 --> 1:02:28.440
<v Speaker 1>was fun, really fun to watch, you know, in person

1:02:28.480 --> 1:02:30.520
<v Speaker 1>on the set, I just felt very privileged when I

1:02:30.560 --> 1:02:33.520
<v Speaker 1>was that um and then teach it was one of

1:02:33.560 --> 1:02:37.800
<v Speaker 1>those locations where it was. But that's that episode with Leburn.

1:02:37.880 --> 1:02:40.680
<v Speaker 1>That's an example of one that the network didn't I

1:02:40.720 --> 1:02:43.280
<v Speaker 1>didn't care about so much, but the fans really loved,

1:02:43.360 --> 1:02:46.920
<v Speaker 1>and Joey would always tell me that that was their

1:02:46.920 --> 1:02:49.120
<v Speaker 1>favorite episode. They would come up to people would tell

1:02:49.160 --> 1:02:52.000
<v Speaker 1>him that was my shavorite, so he would always give

1:02:52.040 --> 1:02:56.480
<v Speaker 1>me that compliment. Always very sweet to me. Um Yeah,

1:02:56.920 --> 1:03:00.240
<v Speaker 1>non really to Jenny Tory lindsay, did you guys ever

1:03:00.320 --> 1:03:02.720
<v Speaker 1>eat a mega burger? What is that? What is Oh

1:03:02.720 --> 1:03:05.120
<v Speaker 1>my gosh, you just read my mind. I was literally

1:03:05.200 --> 1:03:08.439
<v Speaker 1>just thinking about omega burger. Well, I mean I would

1:03:08.480 --> 1:03:09.840
<v Speaker 1>love to have one. I don't know where I would

1:03:09.840 --> 1:03:13.360
<v Speaker 1>get that, but but but did you get it? You

1:03:13.360 --> 1:03:17.000
<v Speaker 1>can get it from Fat Burger. That's where we got it. Okay,

1:03:17.000 --> 1:03:19.200
<v Speaker 1>so I'm going to go to Fat Burger. They would

1:03:19.240 --> 1:03:22.880
<v Speaker 1>literally pick up Fat Burger that morning and plate them. Yep,

1:03:22.960 --> 1:03:28.040
<v Speaker 1>that's a mega Fat Burger. Ken would have done that. Yeah,

1:03:28.120 --> 1:03:31.280
<v Speaker 1>but you can't think of the peach Pit without thinking

1:03:31.920 --> 1:03:35.240
<v Speaker 1>of Nat like they're one and the same they go

1:03:35.320 --> 1:03:40.880
<v Speaker 1>down in history together and that the uniform and it's

1:03:40.960 --> 1:03:45.520
<v Speaker 1>this remarkable what an impact that character did have on

1:03:45.560 --> 1:03:50.280
<v Speaker 1>the whole, like you know, sphere of the show and

1:03:51.120 --> 1:03:53.080
<v Speaker 1>how big it was. But it always came back to

1:03:53.560 --> 1:03:57.840
<v Speaker 1>everybody knows the peach pit. Everybody knows Nat Yeah, Chuck,

1:03:57.840 --> 1:04:00.200
<v Speaker 1>who named it the peach pit? I believe it was

1:04:00.320 --> 1:04:03.080
<v Speaker 1>Charles right, which because it was after the Apple Pan.

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<v Speaker 1>That's how I remember and why the peach pit was

1:04:06.880 --> 1:04:09.520
<v Speaker 1>that in honor of the apple po it was the

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<v Speaker 1>apple Okay. In fact, when they told them this is

1:04:14.840 --> 1:04:17.880
<v Speaker 1>what we were basing it on the location, people, I went,

1:04:17.920 --> 1:04:19.440
<v Speaker 1>I looked at it, and they built it on the

1:04:19.440 --> 1:04:23.720
<v Speaker 1>set the same way, with no tables because doesn't happy

1:04:25.320 --> 1:04:27.600
<v Speaker 1>just the counter? Yeah, and then they had to add

1:04:27.640 --> 1:04:30.600
<v Speaker 1>the tables. Yeah, because well, everybody was very happy when

1:04:30.640 --> 1:04:32.800
<v Speaker 1>we just built the counter because that's all we could

1:04:32.800 --> 1:04:39.400
<v Speaker 1>afford to build. And white peaches who picked peaches who

1:04:39.440 --> 1:04:43.880
<v Speaker 1>like the peaches, well, Apple Pan, peach pitch. You know,

1:04:45.680 --> 1:04:49.720
<v Speaker 1>it just came to him in a moment of if

1:04:49.760 --> 1:04:52.560
<v Speaker 1>I could get inside the mind of a writer, I

1:04:52.600 --> 1:04:55.120
<v Speaker 1>would love it because that this doesn't come to my mind.

1:04:56.280 --> 1:04:59.960
<v Speaker 1>Apple Pan Larry talked about Larry my mind, be careful.

1:05:02.080 --> 1:05:04.560
<v Speaker 1>You know, there's something should talk about. Didn't Joey have

1:05:04.720 --> 1:05:09.720
<v Speaker 1>this plan to franchise the Peach picture, Yes, and I

1:05:09.720 --> 1:05:11.400
<v Speaker 1>think it was one of the you know, he never

1:05:11.440 --> 1:05:13.400
<v Speaker 1>really got it going. I know, it really haunted him

1:05:13.440 --> 1:05:15.360
<v Speaker 1>a lot of ways because it ran just some problems.

1:05:15.360 --> 1:05:17.480
<v Speaker 1>But that was kind of going for a while in

1:05:17.280 --> 1:05:20.120
<v Speaker 1>the middle seasons. He was gonna have this thing and

1:05:20.880 --> 1:05:23.240
<v Speaker 1>all over the world. Yeah, I think Iron was Wasn't

1:05:23.240 --> 1:05:26.680
<v Speaker 1>Iron involved with that whole idea? You maybe you know

1:05:26.680 --> 1:05:34.320
<v Speaker 1>who it was, the you know the guy, Yeah, the

1:05:34.360 --> 1:05:41.439
<v Speaker 1>guy whoa his buddy. The rat pack was their deal.

1:05:42.320 --> 1:05:44.800
<v Speaker 1>I want to switch because Carol Potter has joined us

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<v Speaker 1>here as well. Cal Hello everybody, you see all your

1:05:52.320 --> 1:05:59.240
<v Speaker 1>faces YouTube, Jenny h He's all shared some really great

1:05:59.320 --> 1:06:03.960
<v Speaker 1>stories about Joey and just our memories of him. Would

1:06:04.000 --> 1:06:06.120
<v Speaker 1>you like to share with us? Yeah, he had a

1:06:06.120 --> 1:06:08.680
<v Speaker 1>lot of stories too, he was I had had a

1:06:08.680 --> 1:06:11.840
<v Speaker 1>lot of stories. But you know, during the show, we

1:06:11.920 --> 1:06:14.800
<v Speaker 1>didn't um we the parents didn't hang out at the

1:06:14.840 --> 1:06:18.720
<v Speaker 1>Peach bit, surprisingly, but I ran into him at a

1:06:18.720 --> 1:06:22.760
<v Speaker 1>at a benefit. This woman who had a terrible experience

1:06:22.800 --> 1:06:25.960
<v Speaker 1>with lyme disease and nine O two on oh was

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<v Speaker 1>one of the things that helped her get through. And

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<v Speaker 1>Joey happened to be there, and so we we had

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<v Speaker 1>a great time and did another Yeah yeah remember that

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<v Speaker 1>very interesting, And then we did another. We went to

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<v Speaker 1>New Jersey for one of those um celebrity confidence things

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<v Speaker 1>and um it was you know, those things can be

1:06:50.960 --> 1:06:55.760
<v Speaker 1>so so wearing. But it was great to have him

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<v Speaker 1>there and we could just bounce stuff off of one

1:06:58.600 --> 1:07:04.080
<v Speaker 1>another and was good company. Um. And what a devoted father.

1:07:04.240 --> 1:07:07.959
<v Speaker 1>I mean he talked about his daughter all all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>His world just revolved around her. She was Kelly was

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<v Speaker 1>basically raised on the set of nine O two and

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<v Speaker 1>now his daughter. She was always there growing up. I

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<v Speaker 1>had forgotten that that's true. I remember now she was

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<v Speaker 1>little when we met her, little little. He was crazy

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<v Speaker 1>about her. Yeah. How old was she when when the

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<v Speaker 1>show started? Oh my gosh, gosh, how under ten? I

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<v Speaker 1>don't have yeah, definitely like yeah wow. Speaking of the

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<v Speaker 1>peach fit, I had a really weird, like meta meta

1:07:43.160 --> 1:07:47.960
<v Speaker 1>moment when my kids um school fundraiser this year. The

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<v Speaker 1>theme was nine ohs oh for nine, which was the

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<v Speaker 1>zip code of the school and it was a nine

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<v Speaker 1>two themed fundraiser and I had to go to the

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<v Speaker 1>fundraiser and everyone it's just like, you know, there were

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<v Speaker 1>just a lot of nats. There are a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>nats there, and just tell you that did you dress

1:08:06.600 --> 1:08:11.400
<v Speaker 1>this Janet? Well, my husband wanted to be Steve, and

1:08:11.560 --> 1:08:13.040
<v Speaker 1>who's like, just go as you and I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how to nail this. No, that's a

1:08:17.160 --> 1:08:20.600
<v Speaker 1>really good idea. Yeah, And I don't even know if

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<v Speaker 1>half the moms knew I ever saw on the show,

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<v Speaker 1>but I wanted I was Berda and my my blonde

1:08:29.240 --> 1:08:33.120
<v Speaker 1>friend was was Kelly, and we wore the same prom dress.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to see that. That's great. I think Jason

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<v Speaker 1>had his daughter had a thing where she had a dress,

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<v Speaker 1>a dance, yeah, dance and nine theme dance at her

1:08:45.800 --> 1:08:49.960
<v Speaker 1>school too. She's probably really popular that night. And yeah,

1:08:50.040 --> 1:08:54.439
<v Speaker 1>there are pictures of her dad there. So crazy. And

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<v Speaker 1>the point to makeup, just to mention, is that in

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<v Speaker 1>the various stages of nine two that came back, they

1:09:00.320 --> 1:09:02.760
<v Speaker 1>always brought Nat back. Right in the in the Little

1:09:03.200 --> 1:09:05.840
<v Speaker 1>w version, they brought Nat back and he had some

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<v Speaker 1>like coffee shop, peach pit which is just really bizarre.

1:09:10.040 --> 1:09:12.160
<v Speaker 1>But but he was there. I mean, so did you

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<v Speaker 1>get to reconnect with him, Jenny when you when you

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<v Speaker 1>did that, I wasn't on that. You weren't on that.

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<v Speaker 1>She's joking, No, I'm joking. He wasn't on it when

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<v Speaker 1>I was on it. I was only on it for

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<v Speaker 1>how many episodes? Two? Just like three? I think it

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<v Speaker 1>is an inside joke that we were talking about the

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<v Speaker 1>c W version and Jen was like, well, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>remember that much. I was only on three episodes. I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, I'm telling you, you were on a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of them. And then we googled it together and she

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<v Speaker 1>was on twenty two episodes. I was gonna say, like character, yeah, piotal.

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<v Speaker 1>She probably wasn't on the episode. Was he only in

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<v Speaker 1>one episode? I think it was on one episode. That's

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<v Speaker 1>so cool though, that they did that. You know, I

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't I don't would have remembered seeing him there, and

1:10:02.240 --> 1:10:05.000
<v Speaker 1>we would have absolutely, of course had him on b

1:10:05.200 --> 1:10:07.120
<v Speaker 1>H nine O two and oh, but we knew, you know,

1:10:07.240 --> 1:10:10.800
<v Speaker 1>he was already diagnosed with Alzheimer's and suffering, and when

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<v Speaker 1>we saw him at the peach Pit at the pop

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<v Speaker 1>up afterwards, he in fact said to us, you know,

1:10:16.280 --> 1:10:17.840
<v Speaker 1>I want I want to be on it. We're like

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<v Speaker 1>second season. If it goes a second season, of course

1:10:20.320 --> 1:10:23.840
<v Speaker 1>you're going to be on it. And then it didn't. Yeah,

1:10:23.880 --> 1:10:26.640
<v Speaker 1>it should be. There should have been a second season. Sorry,

1:10:27.560 --> 1:10:29.280
<v Speaker 1>I had to tell you. Can I just pipe in

1:10:29.280 --> 1:10:31.679
<v Speaker 1>and say to you girls, you did such a perfect job.

1:10:31.800 --> 1:10:36.639
<v Speaker 1>I thought you did this, Thank you. It was so

1:10:36.800 --> 1:10:40.240
<v Speaker 1>clever and so well done. We had fun, right, Carol,

1:10:40.960 --> 1:10:43.760
<v Speaker 1>that was That was my best day of filming in

1:10:43.840 --> 1:10:47.960
<v Speaker 1>my entire career. Oh my god, we had so much

1:10:48.040 --> 1:10:50.600
<v Speaker 1>fun that that was such a great day. It was

1:10:50.640 --> 1:10:55.000
<v Speaker 1>so nice that Jason was directing and we basically were

1:10:55.080 --> 1:10:57.880
<v Speaker 1>just hanging out together all day on the set, right

1:10:57.880 --> 1:11:01.559
<v Speaker 1>because we're all sitting there, there was barely of any blocking. Yeah,

1:11:01.680 --> 1:11:06.040
<v Speaker 1>Carol played our theory, and there was such a different

1:11:06.080 --> 1:11:10.280
<v Speaker 1>experience than being like teenagers on set and in our minds,

1:11:10.320 --> 1:11:13.439
<v Speaker 1>you know, Carol was the parents, and now it was

1:11:13.479 --> 1:11:15.559
<v Speaker 1>like we were all peers and we were sitting there

1:11:15.560 --> 1:11:17.880
<v Speaker 1>and we got to know Carol on a different level.

1:11:18.240 --> 1:11:20.120
<v Speaker 1>We're like, oh my god, what were we missing all

1:11:20.120 --> 1:11:23.479
<v Speaker 1>these years. You're so funny, You're so cool, Like we

1:11:23.520 --> 1:11:26.960
<v Speaker 1>should have been hanging out with you. Well, I was

1:11:27.080 --> 1:11:31.080
<v Speaker 1>just it was thrilled to hang out with adults. You

1:11:31.200 --> 1:11:36.360
<v Speaker 1>guys become um, you know, that's very special. That's very special.

1:11:36.640 --> 1:11:39.800
<v Speaker 1>Thank you. And Joey actually got to see a lot

1:11:39.840 --> 1:11:42.960
<v Speaker 1>more of that, didn't he, Because he was on the

1:11:43.000 --> 1:11:46.680
<v Speaker 1>whole ten years, wasn't he. So he got to be

1:11:46.840 --> 1:11:51.000
<v Speaker 1>with you as you sort of grew into more of

1:11:51.040 --> 1:11:54.040
<v Speaker 1>an adulthood, right, and all of us kind of we

1:11:54.040 --> 1:11:56.599
<v Speaker 1>were always all at the peach pits, so he got

1:11:56.600 --> 1:11:59.200
<v Speaker 1>to be with all of us all the time, which

1:11:59.240 --> 1:12:01.400
<v Speaker 1>one you didn't really get to have that. Well, we

1:12:01.560 --> 1:12:07.840
<v Speaker 1>had you in the living room, living room, and of

1:12:07.880 --> 1:12:10.519
<v Speaker 1>course there's a last episode of season one, you know,

1:12:11.200 --> 1:12:16.479
<v Speaker 1>going away late Ye that parents were there, came to

1:12:16.479 --> 1:12:19.840
<v Speaker 1>the peach right, that's right. So yes, occasionally we showed

1:12:19.880 --> 1:12:23.400
<v Speaker 1>up at the peach bit and wait the second you Carol,

1:12:23.439 --> 1:12:27.240
<v Speaker 1>But you know remember the episode where house um, where

1:12:27.320 --> 1:12:32.680
<v Speaker 1>Jane were went to the cam all karaoke client put

1:12:32.720 --> 1:12:36.960
<v Speaker 1>the karaoke machine. Everybody that was early karaoke there was,

1:12:37.120 --> 1:12:39.639
<v Speaker 1>you know in the United States and you got guys

1:12:39.680 --> 1:12:43.200
<v Speaker 1>were doing it down in Koreatown a lot. You you

1:12:43.240 --> 1:12:46.599
<v Speaker 1>were cutting edge on the karaoke scene. They're cutting edge

1:12:46.600 --> 1:12:50.400
<v Speaker 1>on everything. By the way, really we talk on our

1:12:50.439 --> 1:12:53.000
<v Speaker 1>podcast all the time about nine O, two and O

1:12:53.160 --> 1:12:57.040
<v Speaker 1>the stories everything connected to it, um, talking about the

1:12:57.160 --> 1:13:00.400
<v Speaker 1>environment even back then, like it was all so like

1:13:00.479 --> 1:13:03.760
<v Speaker 1>cutting edge of what would like end up you know,

1:13:03.800 --> 1:13:07.240
<v Speaker 1>being huge now that everyone talks about the topical you know,

1:13:07.320 --> 1:13:11.799
<v Speaker 1>issues we dealt with. Well even so, the one thing is, Michael,

1:13:12.479 --> 1:13:15.519
<v Speaker 1>this is more for you. Um. We saw this episode,

1:13:15.560 --> 1:13:19.719
<v Speaker 1>second one we did with uh when the Joey got casting.

1:13:19.800 --> 1:13:23.360
<v Speaker 1>In fact, um, it had to do with shoplifting. And

1:13:23.400 --> 1:13:25.679
<v Speaker 1>I'm looking at I haven't seen it since its air.

1:13:26.280 --> 1:13:29.559
<v Speaker 1>That pet confirmed this. There's a whole passage they started

1:13:29.680 --> 1:13:33.640
<v Speaker 1>the girls are sitting around talking about white privilege in

1:13:36.200 --> 1:13:43.920
<v Speaker 1>talking Wow. So you know it was like we really

1:13:43.960 --> 1:13:48.760
<v Speaker 1>were in some of this cutting edge uh political discourse here.

1:13:49.200 --> 1:13:53.840
<v Speaker 1>That's that's pretty amazing. I think I need to go

1:13:53.880 --> 1:13:58.800
<v Speaker 1>watch it again. Now. That was the second episode chup,

1:13:59.240 --> 1:14:03.040
<v Speaker 1>not after the pilot, but the second season. First when

1:14:03.040 --> 1:14:07.559
<v Speaker 1>you met Dylan, then I guess the second one you

1:14:07.600 --> 1:14:14.240
<v Speaker 1>met Nat and you know when James and I whenever

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<v Speaker 1>there was like an adult on the set usually glombed

1:14:18.800 --> 1:14:23.920
<v Speaker 1>onto the adult like really connecting with Joey in that.

1:14:24.080 --> 1:14:29.200
<v Speaker 1>In that episode, we talked about sometimes on OMG, we

1:14:29.240 --> 1:14:32.320
<v Speaker 1>talked about how the things that are show got some

1:14:32.400 --> 1:14:34.120
<v Speaker 1>of the things that are show got away with, saying

1:14:34.160 --> 1:14:37.000
<v Speaker 1>that you can never get away with Oh my god. Yes,

1:14:38.080 --> 1:14:41.040
<v Speaker 1>they stick out like red flags now, like things that

1:14:41.400 --> 1:14:46.240
<v Speaker 1>people would just freak out about these days. Yeah, and

1:14:47.160 --> 1:14:49.880
<v Speaker 1>it's interesting to see how how we got away with

1:14:49.880 --> 1:14:52.680
<v Speaker 1>it and how wasn't it wasn't such a topic of

1:14:52.680 --> 1:14:56.120
<v Speaker 1>conversation back then. Well, it's it's really interesting. You know.

1:14:56.160 --> 1:14:57.920
<v Speaker 1>I taught for a couple of years of U C

1:14:58.080 --> 1:15:00.960
<v Speaker 1>l A. And I wanted to do like a history

1:15:01.040 --> 1:15:06.280
<v Speaker 1>of network programming, and I started, I want to see

1:15:06.280 --> 1:15:08.439
<v Speaker 1>if I could get a shook class like that together.

1:15:09.200 --> 1:15:12.200
<v Speaker 1>And one of my favorite shows of all time, Karen

1:15:12.240 --> 1:15:16.000
<v Speaker 1>Knows It's his Hill Street Blues. Nobody had ever seen

1:15:16.040 --> 1:15:19.439
<v Speaker 1>anything like Hill Street Blues when it first aired, and

1:15:19.520 --> 1:15:24.760
<v Speaker 1>today it is unwatchable. It is so sexist and racist

1:15:24.880 --> 1:15:28.200
<v Speaker 1>and vile. And we were sitting there with the director,

1:15:28.320 --> 1:15:32.080
<v Speaker 1>a fine man named Bob Butler, a really classy individual.

1:15:32.360 --> 1:15:34.960
<v Speaker 1>I actually did a pilot with him for ABC at

1:15:35.000 --> 1:15:38.840
<v Speaker 1>one point and really enjoyed the experience. Immensely and he

1:15:38.920 --> 1:15:43.240
<v Speaker 1>was embarrassed, like like turn it off. It was it

1:15:43.360 --> 1:15:45.479
<v Speaker 1>was a different country and we got away with a

1:15:45.520 --> 1:15:49.920
<v Speaker 1>lot of stuff. Yeah, this has been great, guys, catching

1:15:50.000 --> 1:15:53.120
<v Speaker 1>up and seeing all of you and reliving this stuff.

1:15:53.560 --> 1:15:56.400
<v Speaker 1>You know, I mean this all three people that I've gotten.

1:15:56.439 --> 1:15:58.679
<v Speaker 1>I got to know Jessica. We had Denis on our

1:15:58.680 --> 1:16:01.599
<v Speaker 1>podcast too, and and we did that zoom with with

1:16:01.680 --> 1:16:04.360
<v Speaker 1>Joey and it was really it's been just great to

1:16:04.400 --> 1:16:07.559
<v Speaker 1>be part of this universe. And I know as a fan,

1:16:07.720 --> 1:16:09.560
<v Speaker 1>like as I said to you guys earlier, like you

1:16:09.720 --> 1:16:13.280
<v Speaker 1>really made a difference in your work. And um, I

1:16:13.280 --> 1:16:15.840
<v Speaker 1>think a lot of people are looking for a place

1:16:15.880 --> 1:16:18.120
<v Speaker 1>to go right now when they're dealing with their own

1:16:18.160 --> 1:16:19.960
<v Speaker 1>loss and whatnot. And the fact that they have Beverly

1:16:20.000 --> 1:16:22.559
<v Speaker 1>Hills Nino too and what we were just talking about

1:16:22.720 --> 1:16:25.200
<v Speaker 1>is so important because it's a place that is always

1:16:25.200 --> 1:16:28.880
<v Speaker 1>there for them. So um, it's it's really beautiful. What

1:16:28.920 --> 1:16:32.960
<v Speaker 1>you guys did in this conversation has been really awesome too. Yeah. Well, Pete,

1:16:33.040 --> 1:16:35.640
<v Speaker 1>we have to say thank you to you also for

1:16:35.760 --> 1:16:39.679
<v Speaker 1>bringing a soul back together. I mean this has led

1:16:39.760 --> 1:16:43.799
<v Speaker 1>me to appreciate this whole experience on a whole other level.

1:16:44.040 --> 1:16:50.080
<v Speaker 1>I mean getting to know people again. Yeah, thank yeah, well,

1:16:50.120 --> 1:16:57.760
<v Speaker 1>thank you Pete. We also have a message UM that

1:16:57.920 --> 1:17:02.280
<v Speaker 1>was recorded from Brian Austin green Um talking about Joey,

1:17:02.400 --> 1:17:05.479
<v Speaker 1>So we want to go to that now. Joey was

1:17:05.560 --> 1:17:11.760
<v Speaker 1>around the entire time. He was He was one of

1:17:11.840 --> 1:17:14.439
<v Speaker 1>the main voices on the show. I mean, he was

1:17:14.560 --> 1:17:20.800
<v Speaker 1>the He was definitely um a heart and soul and

1:17:21.400 --> 1:17:24.559
<v Speaker 1>what it is we did, and and fans really looked

1:17:24.600 --> 1:17:27.920
<v Speaker 1>forward to seeing him and seeing seeing the moments that

1:17:28.040 --> 1:17:31.000
<v Speaker 1>he was in, and he brought so much light to

1:17:31.280 --> 1:17:34.719
<v Speaker 1>to what we did. UM. Our show was a teenage

1:17:34.840 --> 1:17:39.760
<v Speaker 1>drama and and and the character of Nat wasn't necessarily

1:17:40.000 --> 1:17:43.400
<v Speaker 1>a part of that drama. He was He was the

1:17:43.840 --> 1:17:46.719
<v Speaker 1>the joy and the escape I think for people watching

1:17:46.760 --> 1:17:50.960
<v Speaker 1>the show, UM, just because they had that chance to

1:17:51.040 --> 1:17:53.320
<v Speaker 1>then get away and sort of laugh with him and

1:17:53.439 --> 1:17:56.040
<v Speaker 1>smile with him. He had such a great energy to him,

1:17:56.840 --> 1:18:02.680
<v Speaker 1>and he readiated so much love and enjoy that you

1:18:02.800 --> 1:18:05.360
<v Speaker 1>couldn't help but smile when you saw him or you

1:18:05.400 --> 1:18:08.639
<v Speaker 1>were around him. Personally, he was. He was an amazing man.

1:18:08.920 --> 1:18:12.560
<v Speaker 1>He really was. Uh. Denise Dows same thing. She she

1:18:12.800 --> 1:18:17.640
<v Speaker 1>was fantastic. Um. She was so professional when she got

1:18:17.680 --> 1:18:21.880
<v Speaker 1>to set. She was so kind, she was so generous. UM.

1:18:22.120 --> 1:18:26.200
<v Speaker 1>And then Jessica, I mean, she's what a force she

1:18:26.479 --> 1:18:29.880
<v Speaker 1>was in She was in every episode just writing her

1:18:30.040 --> 1:18:32.960
<v Speaker 1>heart out. And she was so good at listening to

1:18:34.720 --> 1:18:37.080
<v Speaker 1>all the actors that were there and whatever notes they

1:18:37.120 --> 1:18:40.800
<v Speaker 1>had and whatever thoughts they had and incorporating them, um

1:18:41.560 --> 1:18:48.000
<v Speaker 1>without letting us uh mess it up, you know, which

1:18:48.320 --> 1:18:50.040
<v Speaker 1>which is an easy that's an easy thing to do.

1:18:50.200 --> 1:18:51.760
<v Speaker 1>I mean you get a bunch of kids in there

1:18:51.840 --> 1:18:54.720
<v Speaker 1>who all of a sudden think they're awesome, and then

1:18:54.840 --> 1:18:56.559
<v Speaker 1>you know, they're like, oh, I can write a script,

1:18:56.600 --> 1:19:01.680
<v Speaker 1>and it's like you can't. Yeah, it's definitely not that easy. Um.

1:19:02.080 --> 1:19:04.960
<v Speaker 1>Joey was. Joey was one of those guys though that

1:19:05.200 --> 1:19:08.040
<v Speaker 1>no matter what was going on in his life, he

1:19:08.160 --> 1:19:13.800
<v Speaker 1>would he would share it openly. But he was very optimistic.

1:19:14.320 --> 1:19:19.400
<v Speaker 1>He Um. He never ever brought things to set with

1:19:19.520 --> 1:19:23.760
<v Speaker 1>a sense of woe is me? What am I gonna do? Um?

1:19:24.040 --> 1:19:26.600
<v Speaker 1>You know I need fifteen to step off set and

1:19:26.720 --> 1:19:29.360
<v Speaker 1>go do like he just he would just sort of

1:19:29.560 --> 1:19:33.760
<v Speaker 1>rise above everything and uh and smile through it all.

1:19:34.000 --> 1:19:37.400
<v Speaker 1>And he was really positive in the way that he

1:19:37.640 --> 1:19:42.559
<v Speaker 1>dealt with life, and then for us as a as

1:19:42.600 --> 1:19:44.599
<v Speaker 1>a young cast, I think it was just so helpful

1:19:44.720 --> 1:19:49.439
<v Speaker 1>having someone as seasoned as he was and as kind

1:19:49.560 --> 1:19:52.880
<v Speaker 1>and as thoughtful as he was, uh, that that we

1:19:53.000 --> 1:19:55.920
<v Speaker 1>saw every single week. I mean we were we were

1:19:55.960 --> 1:19:59.240
<v Speaker 1>in the peach pit almost every episode of of you know,

1:19:59.520 --> 1:20:03.400
<v Speaker 1>ten years of the show. He um. So, I I

1:20:03.520 --> 1:20:05.960
<v Speaker 1>had no idea who he was. I had no idea

1:20:06.040 --> 1:20:09.120
<v Speaker 1>who Aaron Spelling was. I was like, I was young.

1:20:09.240 --> 1:20:11.760
<v Speaker 1>I was really outside of the world of television at

1:20:11.800 --> 1:20:14.479
<v Speaker 1>that point, you know, I was. I just didn't I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't know all the ins and outs and the connections

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<v Speaker 1>and all the people that had done it. Um, Joey was.

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<v Speaker 1>Joey was honestly, amazingly kind from the very beginning. He

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<v Speaker 1>was never anything but loving and sweet. He never uh,

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<v Speaker 1>he never had a sense of like, you know, hey kid,

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<v Speaker 1>let me show you how to do this. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>He he always spoke, which I really appreciated. He really

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<v Speaker 1>spoke from a place of this is what I've experienced, um,

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<v Speaker 1>but it may not be what you experienced. So you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's you've got to make your own choices, and you

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<v Speaker 1>you have to love your own life and you have

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<v Speaker 1>to find your own way through it. I can. He

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<v Speaker 1>would help whenever he could. He would sort of take

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<v Speaker 1>your hand and guide you through it a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>But he was never, um, he was never BOSSI He

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<v Speaker 1>was never never that guy that was like, I've done

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<v Speaker 1>all this and you know my way is the right

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<v Speaker 1>way now, because I've lived at all. And he lived.

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<v Speaker 1>He had lived a long life at that point. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean he was when we started, he had done a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of stuff. He had been in the business for

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<v Speaker 1>a while. He had worked with a lot of people. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean if for fans of his, if they go

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<v Speaker 1>back through his body of work and go back through

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<v Speaker 1>his IMDb page, it's literally it's like he's it's a

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<v Speaker 1>who's who of people that you've ever heard of, and

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<v Speaker 1>Joey has worked with all of them, I mean just

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<v Speaker 1>every single person. Um. But he was amazing. He made

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<v Speaker 1>He just brought so much life to what to what

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<v Speaker 1>he was given. It wasn't he wasn't necessarily written the

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<v Speaker 1>best stuff. I mean he was you know, he was

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<v Speaker 1>the guy that owned the peach pitt And so we

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<v Speaker 1>would in sometimes and he had very repetitive you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Mega Burger to Mega Burgers. But you know it's like

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<v Speaker 1>it was sort of yeah, it was started the same stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going vanilla today, are we going? We think it

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<v Speaker 1>with Strawberry um uh, the Peach Prize fresh um. So uh.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, he didn't have a lot to work with

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes and he uh and it never showed. He never

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<v Speaker 1>he never complained about it. He never was on set

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<v Speaker 1>going I can't believe what I'm saying this again. He

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<v Speaker 1>just every single take, every single run, was just the

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<v Speaker 1>consummate professional um. And he was just a great guide

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<v Speaker 1>for I felt for a young actor like myself to

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<v Speaker 1>um to aspire to be on some moveel. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>he really he really set the tone for me of

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<v Speaker 1>he and and Luke really set the tone for me

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<v Speaker 1>of the type of person, the type of life that

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to live in, the type of person that

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to be no matter what was going on

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<v Speaker 1>in life. And he was. He was an amazing man.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so interesting to see how we all have the

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<v Speaker 1>same perspective. We all had our own separate experiences with

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<v Speaker 1>Joey and with Jessica, and with Denise and with Luke,

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<v Speaker 1>but we but everybody's stories are somehow we've together the

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<v Speaker 1>same and that's how you know that you're dealing with

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<v Speaker 1>just a really genuine, authentic person Um and we're all

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<v Speaker 1>so blessed to know him and work with him. And

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<v Speaker 1>it's just been an honor getting together with all of

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<v Speaker 1>you and talking about him today. It makes it feel

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<v Speaker 1>better somehow to get to share our stories and remember

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<v Speaker 1>together and his memory and his memory goes on through

1:23:49.479 --> 1:23:54.040
<v Speaker 1>our stories and our shared experiences, and that when people

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<v Speaker 1>a past, that keeps them alive, right because we'll always

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<v Speaker 1>talk about what they meant to us and be able

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<v Speaker 1>to rehash things and they're just it's just like they're

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<v Speaker 1>right there with you again. Yeah, thank you guys, Thank

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<v Speaker 1>you so much for all it. Love you guys, so

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<v Speaker 1>good to Hi. Hi everybody, Hi, see you soon, do

1:24:23.880 --> 1:24:28.080
<v Speaker 1>you soon? We needed that, we had to be with

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<v Speaker 1>everyone that was that helped in a You and I

1:24:32.000 --> 1:24:35.519
<v Speaker 1>have been talking through the loss of everyone and especially

1:24:35.600 --> 1:24:40.120
<v Speaker 1>Joey Joey's passing most recently, but it's so nice to

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<v Speaker 1>be able to have that our family or nine to

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<v Speaker 1>a family together and to see them for everyone listening.

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<v Speaker 1>We got to see them here on Zoom and UM

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<v Speaker 1>and hear all the stories and be able to connect,

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<v Speaker 1>like you know, put all of that together. It was

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<v Speaker 1>really special. Yeah, thank you for everybody for making it

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<v Speaker 1>happen for us and for all the fans and everybody

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<v Speaker 1>that's listening. We um, we love doing it for you.

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<v Speaker 1>So UM, I'm glad we all came together. And again

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<v Speaker 1>this podcast of everyone coming together, we are donating and

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<v Speaker 1>Joey's name to the Alzheimer's Association. UM, so please go

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<v Speaker 1>ahead and donate there as well, UM, and Joey's name,

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<v Speaker 1>and and anyone that you know or have loved that

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<v Speaker 1>you lost that was suffering with that disease. We encourage you.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks guys, we love you, Thank you, and I love you.

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<v Speaker 1>Jenny Garth, I love you too,