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Speaker 1: It's with Jenny Garth and Tori Spelling. Hello, nine O

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Speaker 1: two one OMG ors It's Jenny and Tory and UM.

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Speaker 1: We are going to do something special this week, something

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Speaker 1: very very special. We are all come together for a

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Speaker 1: tribute to Joey Tata, a celebration of life. So this

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Speaker 1: is the first time in the history of nine O

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Speaker 1: two one OMG that we're merging with the other amazing

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Speaker 1: podcast nine two one Beverly Hills Show podcast and their

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Speaker 1: host Pete is going to co host this with Jenny

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Speaker 1: and I and UM, and we're bringing everyone together to

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Speaker 1: jump on and kind of um celebrate Joey today. Oh well,

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Speaker 1: we are all here together again, which is really great,

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Speaker 1: but I wish it was for different, uh circumstances. We're

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Speaker 1: joined by Matthew, Gabrielle and Lindsay and Pete. Of course

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Speaker 1: Jason is coming on and yeah we have Jason coming

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Speaker 1: this is great. I mean, it's good to see everybody again.

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Speaker 1: Being the host of the other show, the Beverly Hills

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Speaker 1: Nino to Ano Show with Chuck and Larry, it's an

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Speaker 1: honor to be here with all of you. So uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, it's felt like we lost a family member

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Speaker 1: for fans, I think, and for you guys is actually

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Speaker 1: we wanted to mention that there are two podcasts podcasts,

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Speaker 1: and kind of be with everyone as family and celebrate

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Speaker 1: Joey's life today UM and speak about him. Um are

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Speaker 1: amazing memories that we have and share some laughs, and

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Speaker 1: it would only be right to all do it together.

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Speaker 1: So that's why we're all here, and it would only

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Speaker 1: be part of the donation to the Alzheimer's Association in

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Speaker 1: memory of our beloved that gnat So you asked, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: when I heard the news, UM, gosh, it was like,

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Speaker 1: me a lot. Tory, What about you? I mean you're

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Speaker 1: very close to Joe. I mean you had a lot

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Speaker 1: I read your thing that you run on Instagram was beautiful.

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Speaker 1: How are you feeling? I was. I mean, it definitely

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Speaker 1: ends the thing that I think keeps me like going

429
00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:28,760
Speaker 1: and keeps me thinking, especially whether it's that our show

430
00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:31,640
Speaker 1: you know, but your show was on for so long

431
00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:34,359
Speaker 1: and ended, or that you know, unfortunately we lose the

432
00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:37,000
Speaker 1: people love, that energy continues, and I think if you

433
00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:39,960
Speaker 1: if you don't think of it as being over, it's

434
00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:44,359
Speaker 1: just transitioned or changed into a different end, you know,

435
00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:47,560
Speaker 1: a different who knows what it is. That sort of

436
00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:52,399
Speaker 1: helps a bit. Um. It's it's not there's no easy

437
00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:54,520
Speaker 1: way through it, but I think I think thinking about

438
00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:59,800
Speaker 1: that energy carrying on is probably helpful that any joining

439
00:26:59,880 --> 00:27:04,439
Speaker 1: the energy, right, it's just and when you love someone

440
00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:07,119
Speaker 1: so much, the greed is so much greater, right, So

441
00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:10,159
Speaker 1: it's like you feel grief and you feel the loss,

442
00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:12,280
Speaker 1: it just means that you were lucky enough to have that,

443
00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:17,199
Speaker 1: you know, love experience and We're so lucky because we

444
00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:19,320
Speaker 1: get to watch the show back and be with the

445
00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:22,360
Speaker 1: person as if it were all still together in that

446
00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:26,160
Speaker 1: those moments in time are frozen forever, and we're so

447
00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:29,879
Speaker 1: lucky to have that. And I don't know we I

448
00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:35,000
Speaker 1: think we might have Chuck Rosen joining us. Is that happening?

449
00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:40,280
Speaker 1: Just to dump on your point though, Jenny, like the

450
00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:43,639
Speaker 1: fans also always have the show to go back to.

451
00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:46,560
Speaker 1: They always have that thing. The work that you guys

452
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:50,120
Speaker 1: did is now speaking on such a deeper level because

453
00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:52,679
Speaker 1: there is that place that they can go back and

454
00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:56,400
Speaker 1: watch that episode where you know, not paid off Brandon's

455
00:27:56,400 --> 00:28:01,280
Speaker 1: bookie or whatever it is, and live in those kinds

456
00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:04,320
Speaker 1: of spaces of like, hey, this is this place. This

457
00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:07,000
Speaker 1: is the where where I'm good. I can come here

458
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:09,679
Speaker 1: and I could watch this and be okay. It's like

459
00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:12,320
Speaker 1: the work that you guys did in the dedication that

460
00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:14,440
Speaker 1: you guys put into for all the seasons that you

461
00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:16,639
Speaker 1: were there. It's just so appreciative from bands and I

462
00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:18,600
Speaker 1: tried to tell you guys that as much as I can,

463
00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:21,200
Speaker 1: because the work still holds up and it still means

464
00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:22,919
Speaker 1: a lot to this generation and the more of the

465
00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:25,520
Speaker 1: generations see it the Beverly Hills nine O two and

466
00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:30,679
Speaker 1: I made a significant difference in people's lives, and um,

467
00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:32,840
Speaker 1: you should all be really proud of the thing that

468
00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:36,239
Speaker 1: you did, because it's still here. I'm sure. Then in

469
00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:38,560
Speaker 1: season one, Jay, you were like, I don't think we're

470
00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:43,320
Speaker 1: gonna get past episode seven. You know, I didn't think.

471
00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:44,920
Speaker 1: I didn't think we're going to get a back nine

472
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:49,640
Speaker 1: pick up, tell you the truth. We were all surprised

473
00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:52,440
Speaker 1: and we got through that first season, but it wasn't

474
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:54,720
Speaker 1: a back nine. Then, how how does it even work?

475
00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:57,840
Speaker 1: We could see any episodes every season? Nine past nine

476
00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:04,240
Speaker 1: is only eighteen. No, we got we got, we got

477
00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:05,840
Speaker 1: the part, we got the we did the pilot, and

478
00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:09,320
Speaker 1: then we got the initial twelve boarder twelve okay, and

479
00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:12,040
Speaker 1: then we had to get that back not back I

480
00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:18,400
Speaker 1: remember that so archaic, right, get the back nine. I've

481
00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:23,320
Speaker 1: forgotten about that completely. But that math doesn't add up. Right,

482
00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:26,320
Speaker 1: We did like twenty three episodes, but we also did

483
00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:31,200
Speaker 1: double up, So does that mean there was like six four?

484
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:34,560
Speaker 1: But we're all over now now we're doing we were doing,

485
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:38,640
Speaker 1: we're doing thirties thirty two episodes a year. In those

486
00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:43,440
Speaker 1: double episodes, years, we're doing thirty two. It was crazy. Yeah,

487
00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:48,280
Speaker 1: And Joey was on for all ten years. He's one

488
00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:49,719
Speaker 1: of the few of us that was on for all

489
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:52,440
Speaker 1: ten years. And he was in like two hundred and

490
00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:54,360
Speaker 1: I don't even know how many episodes. That was two

491
00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:58,520
Speaker 1: hundred something. There's a lot, Jay, Do you remember that

492
00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:01,680
Speaker 1: episode where he paid your book? Remember he paid it

493
00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:05,320
Speaker 1: when he paid up Billy Vera. Yes, we just watched

494
00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:14,320
Speaker 1: the least intimidating book he ever my bookie with the

495
00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:21,200
Speaker 1: softest hands I've ever touched that voice, that voice, remember,

496
00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:26,000
Speaker 1: I don't know which season it was. But finally Joey

497
00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:28,280
Speaker 1: was added as a series regular, even though he was

498
00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:31,240
Speaker 1: always a series regular to us, he wasn't contractually a

499
00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:33,920
Speaker 1: series regular. And then he got to be in the

500
00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:37,600
Speaker 1: opening credits. He had his own spin in. I remember

501
00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:40,800
Speaker 1: that day filming that. He was so excited to be

502
00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:43,720
Speaker 1: included in that. What season was that was? That was

503
00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:48,840
Speaker 1: that season? Eight? Pet know, I don't I think it's

504
00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:50,880
Speaker 1: I think it's sooner than that. I think he became

505
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:54,720
Speaker 1: a regular sooner than that, you guys, seven, maybe seven, eight, nine, ten,

506
00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:57,520
Speaker 1: maybe eight nine times something like that. He was spinning

507
00:30:57,560 --> 00:31:02,520
Speaker 1: by the time I got there, it was like season

508
00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:06,360
Speaker 1: seven maybe, Uh, gab Gabriel. I just watched an episode

509
00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:08,960
Speaker 1: where you had to go do a review of the

510
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:11,720
Speaker 1: peach Pit, and you're like a yelper and you're giving

511
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:13,720
Speaker 1: because it's a college thing, so you're like giving a

512
00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:16,400
Speaker 1: really harsh review. But you and Joey do some some

513
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:19,760
Speaker 1: really great comedy. Was he fun to do comedy with? Garbriel?

514
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:23,160
Speaker 1: It's fun to work with. To be with Joey was

515
00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:27,880
Speaker 1: be with Joy what that was really he loved with

516
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:32,560
Speaker 1: made it fun and easier. You know, sometimes work with Buddy,

517
00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:47,520
Speaker 1: you just flow. I know we're being joined by Chuck now.

518
00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:49,360
Speaker 1: I thought it was earlier, but now I know he's

519
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:54,400
Speaker 1: here and Larry. We have Chuck Rosen and Larry Mullen. Hi,

520
00:31:54,920 --> 00:32:00,200
Speaker 1: look at you. Look at you, guys. I don't know you,

521
00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:05,120
Speaker 1: but hello, nice to meet you. I can answer that

522
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:07,840
Speaker 1: because he started being a suit when you about Joey

523
00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:13,960
Speaker 1: was Hi my last year and he and Tori, he

524
00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:16,760
Speaker 1: was onto it. After about season three. He wanted to know,

525
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:21,960
Speaker 1: why aren't I in the credit? I only get there,

526
00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:25,480
Speaker 1: you know. But eventually he convinced his friends down the

527
00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:29,040
Speaker 1: hall and he in the series regular and like all

528
00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:31,520
Speaker 1: you guys, and he was great that he made it

529
00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:34,160
Speaker 1: and that's where he belonged. And and really hard, right,

530
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:36,640
Speaker 1: I mean you the actors, you maybe can learn it too.

531
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:40,640
Speaker 1: He was a character actor and for a character actor

532
00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:42,960
Speaker 1: to get on and I was looking at his resume

533
00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:47,160
Speaker 1: and he did every show of the early seventies, mid

534
00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:49,760
Speaker 1: seventies Lakes, you know, just a lot of shows. But

535
00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:52,960
Speaker 1: to have ten years of one character to grow and

536
00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:56,000
Speaker 1: be with this was this was part of his of

537
00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:58,800
Speaker 1: his lifetime. And and and that with the beauty of

538
00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:01,480
Speaker 1: it is that he knew it. He was happy, you know,

539
00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:05,240
Speaker 1: as you're all saying, Chuck, do you remember meeting him

540
00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:08,080
Speaker 1: in the audition? Do you remember seeing him for the

541
00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:11,840
Speaker 1: first time audition. I've been thinking about the audition because

542
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:15,959
Speaker 1: it was the first audition that we had. There's an

543
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:19,960
Speaker 1: episode two, Every Dream Has Its Price time they went

544
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:26,720
Speaker 1: about shoplifting and um and and we we did it

545
00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:30,640
Speaker 1: on Wilshire Boulevard and Tony Shepherd. It was me and

546
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:33,920
Speaker 1: Tony Shepherd because Tony was representing your dad, Tori, and

547
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:37,200
Speaker 1: it was it had the chance to be a recurring role.

548
00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:40,280
Speaker 1: We didn't know if it would because you know, but

549
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:43,560
Speaker 1: it had the chance to come back for more. And

550
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:46,920
Speaker 1: there were two actors. It's always Tony Shepherd me and

551
00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:51,880
Speaker 1: to be young. Uh. There was a woman director who

552
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:56,600
Speaker 1: I actually went after, Melanie Mayron to do episodes. And

553
00:33:56,680 --> 00:34:00,440
Speaker 1: she had a girlfriend and the girlfriend um was the

554
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:03,800
Speaker 1: was the director of science having a senior moment here.

555
00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:06,720
Speaker 1: But she's the one my favorite thing that she did.

556
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:09,360
Speaker 1: She's the one that got you to the aerial shot

557
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:11,920
Speaker 1: with you on the bed, Jenny, so when you spun over,

558
00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:15,040
Speaker 1: you know, and that was always in the credits and things.

559
00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:17,839
Speaker 1: Always I was like that one the directing move she made.

560
00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:21,560
Speaker 1: But like the two actors, it was Joey, but the

561
00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:25,440
Speaker 1: other actors Frank Bortion, do you any of you guys

562
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:31,000
Speaker 1: know Frank the joker? Oh my gosh, my portion And

563
00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:36,480
Speaker 1: Frank Ortion was a more you know, guest star worthy.

564
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:39,960
Speaker 1: He was a big name coming in. And the other woman,

565
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:44,640
Speaker 1: the woman director, was just referring to him and and

566
00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:48,399
Speaker 1: and I just looked at it this way, who would

567
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:51,959
Speaker 1: I'd rather spend an afternoon with this friend of Duke

568
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:57,320
Speaker 1: Vincent's star. And you know, it was no contest, you know, Joey,

569
00:34:57,480 --> 00:35:01,520
Speaker 1: It wasn't very many lines, But that sonality was what

570
00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:04,120
Speaker 1: I It wasn't called that's what we needed, That's what

571
00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:06,360
Speaker 1: you wanted. You wanted a place. If I was going

572
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:09,280
Speaker 1: to try to create a place where all you guys

573
00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:11,359
Speaker 1: would hang out, then it would have to be a

574
00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:16,680
Speaker 1: welcoming one. You didn't want somebody who had sardonic insight

575
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:20,560
Speaker 1: really run to the table. Larry, you got to work

576
00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:22,480
Speaker 1: with him in the later seasons. You know, you came

577
00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:25,080
Speaker 1: in season four. What what? What are some of your

578
00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:28,080
Speaker 1: thoughts about about working with joe I was thinking of it.

579
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:31,239
Speaker 1: I have two major thoughts. One was the fact that

580
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:35,160
Speaker 1: writers loved Joey and we loved writing for the character

581
00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:38,400
Speaker 1: of Nat. And and you know, by the fifth season,

582
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:40,840
Speaker 1: when Cindy and Jim left, there was a space to

583
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:44,160
Speaker 1: kind of develop it more. In season six, we went

584
00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:46,560
Speaker 1: for it, and we we sat there in room said

585
00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:50,640
Speaker 1: we're gonna give Joey a romantic storyline and and it's

586
00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:53,160
Speaker 1: gonna be the one that got away. And and we

587
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:56,600
Speaker 1: mined deep into the real Joey's life, like Chuck was

588
00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:59,319
Speaker 1: saying into his credits, and we found a movie he

589
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:01,920
Speaker 1: was in called On Holy Rollers. It was a Roger

590
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:05,400
Speaker 1: Corman film, a B film, and we built this whole

591
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:08,160
Speaker 1: storyline that this was gonna track the one girl that

592
00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:11,440
Speaker 1: he really loved who got away, and Roger Corman him

593
00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:13,839
Speaker 1: and they actually they screened the movie of the Peach

594
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:16,399
Speaker 1: Bay after Darks a special night to kind of honor

595
00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:19,160
Speaker 1: Joy because the gang did not know he was an actor.

596
00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:21,239
Speaker 1: And his whole story was, of course, he had that

597
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:24,359
Speaker 1: repressive father which we see in the sixties episode, who

598
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:26,960
Speaker 1: basically made him give up his acting dream. But we

599
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:29,239
Speaker 1: had this this this movie, we're gonna show it and

600
00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:32,200
Speaker 1: joe and and his girlfriend from back when he's gonna

601
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:35,880
Speaker 1: show up. And we did, and Joey has kissing like

602
00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:39,399
Speaker 1: everybody else, and everybody else gets involved in this relationship

603
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:42,160
Speaker 1: and they wind up getting married and having a baby,

604
00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:43,920
Speaker 1: and it goes to the end of the season. And

605
00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:46,560
Speaker 1: and the woman he married, who plays Joanie as a

606
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:48,360
Speaker 1: was a friend of mine, Julie Parrish. She was a

607
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:50,279
Speaker 1: wonderful gal. I don't know if you guys got to

608
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:52,359
Speaker 1: meet her. She was in Elvis movie. She was an

609
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:55,480
Speaker 1: Elvis girl, and she was a friend of mine just

610
00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:57,719
Speaker 1: from a friend of a friend, because she had done

611
00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:00,279
Speaker 1: Happy Days on the Vernon Shirley also really at it.

612
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:02,719
Speaker 1: But Joey could not have been happier. He met the

613
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:05,640
Speaker 1: challenge of having his own romantic storyline, and it was

614
00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:08,719
Speaker 1: just it was we felt so good about it. The

615
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:11,200
Speaker 1: other thing I wanted to say was, you know we

616
00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:14,520
Speaker 1: we we exploited Joey's character in a sense in season

617
00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:16,520
Speaker 1: four and Schruff knows this because we had this great

618
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:19,560
Speaker 1: storyline for Dylan where he's gonna get scammed out of

619
00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:21,920
Speaker 1: his money. And in the Christmas episode where it's all

620
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:26,239
Speaker 1: starting to go down and Kelly Taylor played by Jenny

621
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:29,239
Speaker 1: does not trust these people at all. It's nath who

622
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:32,759
Speaker 1: says to Dylan, come on, Dylan, it's Christmas. You have

623
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:35,680
Speaker 1: to trust people. And Dylan does and he gets scammed

624
00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:39,120
Speaker 1: out of all this. He gets the worst advice I

625
00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:41,319
Speaker 1: remember telling the last time I saw Joe was that

626
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:42,880
Speaker 1: zoo we had and I told the story and he

627
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:45,600
Speaker 1: had a big laugh at him, because, yeah, he had

628
00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:51,560
Speaker 1: the worst for Jenny and Tory. You're doing season four,

629
00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:53,759
Speaker 1: you get you're coming to it pretty soon, you'll be

630
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:57,239
Speaker 1: able to for all. You can see all that play out. Yeah,

631
00:37:57,280 --> 00:37:59,920
Speaker 1: it's it's good stuff. You're gonna love it. Yeah, Hey, Larry,

632
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:03,000
Speaker 1: did did we screen that Roger Corman movie? Was that

633
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:05,520
Speaker 1: the episode where we did the Roger Corman Film Festival?

634
00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:08,919
Speaker 1: Exactly exactly? It was? It was fade in, Fade Out

635
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:13,600
Speaker 1: is the episode. But yeah, we did that one, that's right.

636
00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:17,640
Speaker 1: I remember that, and Roger came within a You got

637
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:22,479
Speaker 1: Roger Corman to do a cameo? Yes, fantastic, we did

638
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:25,200
Speaker 1: because because I because I did a Roger Corman movie.

639
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:27,359
Speaker 1: And I sent him an email and I was like, hey, Roger,

640
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:29,680
Speaker 1: I don't even remember, but I made a movie for

641
00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:32,239
Speaker 1: you back in the eighties. I'm directing an episode. And

642
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:34,400
Speaker 1: he was like, yeah, sure, I'll come and do it.

643
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:39,920
Speaker 1: That's a still around God bless him. Yeah, it was

644
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:43,040
Speaker 1: really cool. Do you guys remember when we saw him

645
00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:45,960
Speaker 1: at them wasn't really the peach Pit, but it was

646
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:48,480
Speaker 1: just a few years ago when they did that event

647
00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:54,200
Speaker 1: um for bhop up and he came hand to the

648
00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:58,840
Speaker 1: pop up and I'll never forget because Joey not Roger Corman, correct,

649
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:06,640
Speaker 1: but he you know, he he was already starting to

650
00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:09,879
Speaker 1: suffer from Alzheimer's at that point, and it was we

651
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:12,359
Speaker 1: weren't sure what we were going to get and how

652
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:15,000
Speaker 1: it was gonna, you know, affect him and how it

653
00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:17,400
Speaker 1: was going to go. But I just remember he was

654
00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:21,040
Speaker 1: exactly the same as he always was, patting, getting a

655
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:24,960
Speaker 1: little booty pat in there, give a little extra squeeze,

656
00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:27,359
Speaker 1: you know, and and and just feeling that love from

657
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:30,719
Speaker 1: Joey like it had never changed. Jen and I had

658
00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:33,200
Speaker 1: the opportunity to work with him again when we did

659
00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:36,239
Speaker 1: Mystery Girls in two thousand and fourteen, and that was

660
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:39,040
Speaker 1: such an honor. And that was the first time that

661
00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:41,759
Speaker 1: he really divulged to us, you know, his personal struggles

662
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:44,440
Speaker 1: and what was going on, and he said, I'm so

663
00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:46,440
Speaker 1: nervous and I'm not gonna be able to do it.

664
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:50,120
Speaker 1: He was Joey. He showed up like he was awesome

665
00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:54,160
Speaker 1: on tape day in front of a live audience. He

666
00:39:54,280 --> 00:40:09,640
Speaker 1: just flashed that smile and everybody was like, oh my crazy,

667
00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:13,000
Speaker 1: oh Tory. I mean, there's an episode in the last episode,

668
00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:16,080
Speaker 1: there's a great scene where you asked him to walk

669
00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:19,560
Speaker 1: you down the aisle the donna does sorry I connect

670
00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:23,759
Speaker 1: you to all, don't worry, But I think what's really

671
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:25,719
Speaker 1: interesting is the way you asked me. I feel like

672
00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:28,000
Speaker 1: fans or when I watch back that moment. It's such

673
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:30,840
Speaker 1: a powerful moment because we want that, we want to

674
00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:34,360
Speaker 1: see Nat incorporated into the end of the series in

675
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:36,480
Speaker 1: a way, and it's a really touching moment. Do you

676
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:39,360
Speaker 1: remember doing that and what was that like to shoot

677
00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:41,160
Speaker 1: and do, especially at that time when the show is

678
00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:45,000
Speaker 1: coming to end, right, Um, So, the writers had talked

679
00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:47,719
Speaker 1: to me about it, and you know, since my dad

680
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:50,680
Speaker 1: on the show had passed away, they said, who would

681
00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:52,719
Speaker 1: walk Donna down the aisle? There was an idea of

682
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:56,400
Speaker 1: police walking her my mom down the aisle, and I

683
00:40:56,400 --> 00:41:00,319
Speaker 1: immediately said, are you open to Joey walk you meet

684
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:04,040
Speaker 1: down the aisle? I feel like that's the heartbreaking moment,

685
00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:06,160
Speaker 1: like she lost her dad, but this is her second

686
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:08,239
Speaker 1: dad really because throughout the years, that's what he was

687
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:11,800
Speaker 1: liked everyone, that's what he became. And you know, personally,

688
00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:14,400
Speaker 1: Joey and I were so close. I was like, this

689
00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:17,239
Speaker 1: is a real relationship on an off camera like this

690
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:20,160
Speaker 1: would be an honor for him to actually walk me

691
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:23,400
Speaker 1: down the aisle. Um And they were excited about the

692
00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:26,359
Speaker 1: idea and wrote that in so and I think we

693
00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:28,080
Speaker 1: were actually because I think a lot of people were like,

694
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:29,400
Speaker 1: that's kind of weird that it was filmed at the

695
00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:31,920
Speaker 1: peach Pit after dark. I think for some reason we

696
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:33,759
Speaker 1: ran out of time were so it was supposed to

697
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:37,239
Speaker 1: take place in the peach Pit, but um, they were

698
00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:38,640
Speaker 1: on the set for peach after dark. We had to

699
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:41,759
Speaker 1: shuffle things around. So that's where Donna asked him. He

700
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:44,239
Speaker 1: came over and Donna asked him to walk her down

701
00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:47,360
Speaker 1: the aisle there. Oh, I know, I know why. I

702
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:49,920
Speaker 1: know why you weren't in the peach Pit because they

703
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:52,920
Speaker 1: because they had struck the set. It was already gone.

704
00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:59,919
Speaker 1: And I'll tell you because this is what I was doing.

705
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:03,399
Speaker 1: And yeah, I was doing a pilot for Fox at

706
00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:06,680
Speaker 1: the time, a kind of a low budget. Um, you

707
00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:08,920
Speaker 1: were really low bunk, even a lower budget than the

708
00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:14,680
Speaker 1: first season of nine. It was and and and so

709
00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:17,800
Speaker 1: I needed a set. I needed a stage, and Paul

710
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:20,440
Speaker 1: gave it to me because you were already struck it

711
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:24,640
Speaker 1: and were filming when I don't know if you guys

712
00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:29,480
Speaker 1: remember this Rosen World crashed the wedding, Skaron and I

713
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:32,000
Speaker 1: and all three of my kids who really wanted to

714
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:34,759
Speaker 1: be there. We're there. We've got the pictures to prove it.

715
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:38,760
Speaker 1: And when I left the Hilton, he was at the Hilton,

716
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:43,000
Speaker 1: right the Beverly Hilton. Yeah, I drove to the back

717
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:46,320
Speaker 1: to uh our our Calvert Street and ready for the

718
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:49,120
Speaker 1: night shoot that we were doing the stage. That's how

719
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:51,359
Speaker 1: I know. But it was the peach Pit after Park

720
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:56,359
Speaker 1: where we filmed, not the original peach Pit. You just

721
00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:58,399
Speaker 1: blew my mind. I did not know the peach Pits

722
00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:01,480
Speaker 1: set had been struck already because that was what we

723
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:04,080
Speaker 1: had two more episodes to go or was it episode

724
00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:08,120
Speaker 1: before the finale? I did a hundred three episodes the

725
00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:15,439
Speaker 1: Spelling Company, I know, they don't they just okay, wipe

726
00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:18,160
Speaker 1: that off the books trail. Come on. I think it's

727
00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:20,000
Speaker 1: cool that it's at the after dark and it's not

728
00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:22,120
Speaker 1: at the Peach but I know, maybe it makes more sense.

729
00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:25,240
Speaker 1: But I like the intimate and that's not wearing his outfit.

730
00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:27,719
Speaker 1: He's in he's in the street clothes and he's just

731
00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:31,040
Speaker 1: having a conversation. You know, it's not you're not going

732
00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:34,240
Speaker 1: to the diner to get to ask him, you know, lindsay,

733
00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:37,000
Speaker 1: do you have any kind of memories of, you know,

734
00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:40,280
Speaker 1: any scene work that you did with him or anything

735
00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:45,200
Speaker 1: like that. I think you know, Ian and I did

736
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:48,560
Speaker 1: a lot of scenes in the peach pit when we

737
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:52,120
Speaker 1: were coming up with our schemes and plans for the

738
00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:59,719
Speaker 1: tabloid that we wrote for the Beat. I don't really

739
00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:02,760
Speaker 1: remember remember the specifics of the scenes, but I remember loving,

740
00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:05,400
Speaker 1: you know, the moments. For me as an actor, sometimes

741
00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:08,680
Speaker 1: that I remember the most are the in between the

742
00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:11,000
Speaker 1: scenes and you get to go and sit in your

743
00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:13,040
Speaker 1: chair with your name on it, and you get to

744
00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:15,799
Speaker 1: chat with the other actors, and I have I have

745
00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:19,120
Speaker 1: vivid memories of sitting with him on the stage waiting

746
00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:21,440
Speaker 1: for a you know, a lightning change or you know,

747
00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:24,000
Speaker 1: to hit our marks. And you know, like I said before,

748
00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:27,080
Speaker 1: I just I really liked being in his presence because

749
00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:29,840
Speaker 1: he was a pro, and he was funny, and he

750
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:33,080
Speaker 1: always had stories, and I just I felt, you know,

751
00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:36,120
Speaker 1: happy to waste some time with him on those on

752
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:40,759
Speaker 1: those stages and dark sets. You know, we're also joined

753
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:46,280
Speaker 1: by Michael Lang. Michael's so excited to see you. Any

754
00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:50,839
Speaker 1: episodes of the show did you direct, Michael No, I

755
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:57,400
Speaker 1: think twelve. I was believing obviously one of our favorites

756
00:44:57,440 --> 00:45:00,680
Speaker 1: because we loved you so much. Oh my god, thank you.

757
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:04,480
Speaker 1: I always Michael. Whenever there's something that's very complicated. It

758
00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:07,279
Speaker 1: seems like they're just like the multiple days, there's gonna

759
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:09,239
Speaker 1: be a lot of action. They're just going Michaelang, He'll

760
00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:15,560
Speaker 1: figure it out. Yeah, I was. You guys were my

761
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:18,319
Speaker 1: favorite show. Whenever I do panels or whatever and they

762
00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:21,000
Speaker 1: say what was your favorite show to work on? And

763
00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:23,480
Speaker 1: I always I always say nine o two when I

764
00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:26,920
Speaker 1: was was the It was the greatest show because it

765
00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:30,239
Speaker 1: knew what it was and it knew what it was

766
00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:34,480
Speaker 1: supposed to do, and it knew that I knew what

767
00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:35,920
Speaker 1: it was and knew what it was supposed to do,

768
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:40,279
Speaker 1: and it was about things that were important to human beings. So,

769
00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:44,480
Speaker 1: and you guys were also great. I mean people would say, oh,

770
00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:48,200
Speaker 1: were there any stories? I would say, the only good ones.

771
00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:53,640
Speaker 1: I mean, you guys were professional and always prepared and fantastic,

772
00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:56,239
Speaker 1: and it was a great show to work I loved it.

773
00:45:56,360 --> 00:46:00,200
Speaker 1: Do you remember, like what episode uh that stan out

774
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:04,359
Speaker 1: to you that you directed with Joey? I don't know.

775
00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:07,799
Speaker 1: I mean not really because his parts were always relatively small.

776
00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:09,919
Speaker 1: I mean when I remember, the most was the one

777
00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:14,919
Speaker 1: with the where which we did which which had the

778
00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:18,319
Speaker 1: the fair whatever with all the rides and whatever. Yes,

779
00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:23,239
Speaker 1: Mr Wash Coast of Washington. Yes, exactly, Michael. I was

780
00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:29,080
Speaker 1: just out. I was just out addressing the California Coastal Commission.

781
00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:33,280
Speaker 1: And they meet up in the top of Malibu Canyon

782
00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:36,040
Speaker 1: where where they have a meeting in and all that,

783
00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:40,560
Speaker 1: And just down the road was that Suker College. Yeah,

784
00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:45,080
Speaker 1: that's crazy. But I actually was getting sort of thinking

785
00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:49,879
Speaker 1: about today. I thought of a story about Joey that

786
00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:54,640
Speaker 1: completely you know, captures him in my mind. And here

787
00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:56,600
Speaker 1: it is. And first of all, he was one of

788
00:46:56,600 --> 00:46:59,000
Speaker 1: the very few people they called me Mike, and it

789
00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:04,200
Speaker 1: was fine with me. But uh so, I had just

790
00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:06,960
Speaker 1: gotten a new car, which I was very excited about,

791
00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:10,160
Speaker 1: and it had gotten a little bit dirty, and I was,

792
00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:13,799
Speaker 1: you know, riding to the set. It was whatever, you know,

793
00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:17,719
Speaker 1: I think it was a slightly later called, and I

794
00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:19,840
Speaker 1: decided to get the car washed. So I left a

795
00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:22,319
Speaker 1: little earlier. As a director, I would always get to

796
00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:27,040
Speaker 1: the set a half hour before crew call always. Um

797
00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:29,479
Speaker 1: So I figured, okay, I have enough time. The car

798
00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:34,840
Speaker 1: wash was interminably slow, I mean ridiculous, and I'm pouring sweat.

799
00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:41,200
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm just so exasperated. Come on, guys. Um So, finally,

800
00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:44,959
Speaker 1: you know, they get the car done, and I had

801
00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:49,040
Speaker 1: like ten minutes to get there before crew call, and

802
00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:53,279
Speaker 1: it was probably a nine minute drive. So I go,

803
00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:59,000
Speaker 1: I'm probably driving like eighty miles an hour down Ventura Boulevard. Um,

804
00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:02,200
Speaker 1: not very good. So I finally I screech up and

805
00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:04,480
Speaker 1: I just parked right we were. The first scene we

806
00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:06,520
Speaker 1: were shooting was in the peach bit, so I screech

807
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:10,520
Speaker 1: up and park right in front of this basically in

808
00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:16,080
Speaker 1: the set. So you know, I'm the director who can't market. Said,

809
00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:19,759
Speaker 1: Joey is out there right, and he know, you know,

810
00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:22,600
Speaker 1: we've talked this. You know, it was probably the fifth

811
00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:25,880
Speaker 1: or sixth episode, so we had talked and I'm always

812
00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:27,920
Speaker 1: sort of proud that I always get there early, and

813
00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:29,839
Speaker 1: so I'm sure I mentioned that. So he's out there

814
00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:39,160
Speaker 1: and he's going like this right. So not only did

815
00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:41,840
Speaker 1: it not bother me that he did it, which normally,

816
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:44,360
Speaker 1: like an a d ever did that to me, I

817
00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:48,200
Speaker 1: would throw them off the set, but like, it's Joey,

818
00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:50,480
Speaker 1: So how can you get mad at this guy? And

819
00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:53,799
Speaker 1: he's right? So I jumped out of the car. He

820
00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:58,200
Speaker 1: had already gotten all the actors assembled right and and

821
00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:01,120
Speaker 1: made sure, you know, I think I might have called

822
00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:03,560
Speaker 1: the a D to say I might. It's gonna be

823
00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:07,720
Speaker 1: pretty close anyway, And he was just so sweet about

824
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:09,640
Speaker 1: it and just you know, he did that sort of

825
00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:14,560
Speaker 1: fake thing. It was just such a memorable moment of

826
00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:18,319
Speaker 1: him and how he could just sort of he could

827
00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:21,200
Speaker 1: just be He was such a you know, like an

828
00:49:21,239 --> 00:49:25,240
Speaker 1: authentic person. He was a great guy, really great guy.

829
00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:28,439
Speaker 1: And I hadn't had that memory until you know this.

830
00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:33,799
Speaker 1: It was pretty cool. We we've talked a lot of

831
00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:38,680
Speaker 1: business and onset about Joey. We haven't talked um offset

832
00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:42,319
Speaker 1: with Joey. But I was lucky enough to be able

833
00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:45,360
Speaker 1: to go to quite a few Playboy Mansion parties with

834
00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:52,960
Speaker 1: Joey talk yes, and he was he was like the

835
00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:55,440
Speaker 1: life of the party, Like he was the king there,

836
00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:58,279
Speaker 1: Like he was friends with half. He was old Hollywood, right,

837
00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:01,720
Speaker 1: so you know he was there and he was always

838
00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:05,680
Speaker 1: so respected there. So I just have those memories and

839
00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:08,160
Speaker 1: being able to go and be like, oh my gosh,

840
00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:11,759
Speaker 1: like not like Donna drunk at prom, Donna drunk in

841
00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:16,440
Speaker 1: the Playboy Mansion with nat omg. You know, we just

842
00:50:16,560 --> 00:50:20,960
Speaker 1: always had the best times. And yeah, that was always

843
00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:23,240
Speaker 1: a standout and I know, jenn and I have mentioned

844
00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:25,440
Speaker 1: on the show, like we always look forward to like

845
00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:28,439
Speaker 1: late nights. We'd be filming with the group Friday night,

846
00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:32,759
Speaker 1: and you know sometimes we put in plastic cubs and like, sorry, Chuck,

847
00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:35,320
Speaker 1: Larry and and Michael, you shouldn't be listening to this,

848
00:50:35,480 --> 00:50:40,680
Speaker 1: but you know, we'd have some alcoholic beverage. It was

849
00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:43,560
Speaker 1: like nighttime. We'd have one big group scene. We each

850
00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:47,400
Speaker 1: had like one line and then we're like we're okay, um.

851
00:50:47,560 --> 00:50:51,400
Speaker 1: But Joey and that infamous briefcase that he had would

852
00:50:52,040 --> 00:50:55,160
Speaker 1: pop it open. Always had like little mini bottles. He'd

853
00:50:55,160 --> 00:50:58,520
Speaker 1: have like a makeshift bar in there. This is after

854
00:50:58,600 --> 00:51:02,640
Speaker 1: we were all legal. But like, yeah, we could go

855
00:51:02,719 --> 00:51:04,799
Speaker 1: and be like, O great, yeah we'll have some. So

856
00:51:05,040 --> 00:51:07,880
Speaker 1: like Joey's room was like the fun room to go into.

857
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:10,439
Speaker 1: You know, he just should have come it. You guys

858
00:51:10,440 --> 00:51:12,400
Speaker 1: were on the set doing that. You could have come

859
00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:18,440
Speaker 1: into Paul's office about then it would be no m

860
00:51:20,560 --> 00:51:23,479
Speaker 1: Joey always had that too available, But you know I didn't.

861
00:51:23,480 --> 00:51:25,600
Speaker 1: I didn't want to call everyone out. Okay, wait, so

862
00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:34,360
Speaker 1: you're saying we could have merged parties between us. Jenny,

863
00:51:34,360 --> 00:51:35,839
Speaker 1: did you get to go to any of those kind

864
00:51:35,880 --> 00:51:40,480
Speaker 1: of cool parties with with with Joe I didn't I

865
00:51:40,520 --> 00:51:43,480
Speaker 1: think I was having a baby or something. You don't

866
00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:45,200
Speaker 1: really want to hang out at the Playboy Mansion when

867
00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:49,680
Speaker 1: you're like eight months pregnant, fair enough? Yeah, um, you

868
00:51:49,719 --> 00:51:51,640
Speaker 1: did get to have a couple of experiences, though it's

869
00:51:51,640 --> 00:51:54,239
Speaker 1: some rap parties with him. Like we we definitely like

870
00:51:54,360 --> 00:51:57,919
Speaker 1: had fun with him at rat parties. Oh yeah, he's

871
00:51:58,000 --> 00:52:00,360
Speaker 1: the guy we wanted to hang out with him. Like, Yeah,

872
00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:02,960
Speaker 1: it wasn't weird at all that he was a lot

873
00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:05,840
Speaker 1: older than us. No, not at all. He was so fun.

874
00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:07,600
Speaker 1: That's why I felt it was important to bring up

875
00:52:07,640 --> 00:52:10,200
Speaker 1: that part of it too. While he was like someone

876
00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:12,400
Speaker 1: we definitely looked up to on said, he was so

877
00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:15,760
Speaker 1: professional and so kind and helped us with our personal problems,

878
00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:17,799
Speaker 1: Like he also was like that fun guy to go

879
00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:23,240
Speaker 1: out with and it was like no age difference. Yeah, wait, Lynce,

880
00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:25,239
Speaker 1: did we ever go out with Joey? I was just

881
00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:26,880
Speaker 1: trying to think. I was like, was he with us

882
00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:28,799
Speaker 1: that night at the sushi restaurant when I fell off

883
00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:30,799
Speaker 1: the table and pulled the pot of plant out of

884
00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:36,960
Speaker 1: the thing. Don't believe he was to hear that story.

885
00:52:37,080 --> 00:52:38,719
Speaker 1: I know, I don't care if he was there or not.

886
00:52:42,239 --> 00:52:44,279
Speaker 1: And also, by the way, I didn't know you guys

887
00:52:44,280 --> 00:52:47,479
Speaker 1: had brief cases of bottles of things on the set.

888
00:52:47,640 --> 00:52:49,480
Speaker 1: You didn't let me in on that until I think

889
00:52:49,520 --> 00:52:52,680
Speaker 1: you're back. Well, maybe around the time of the Donna's

890
00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:58,040
Speaker 1: bachelorette party and Mrs Teasley was there and just to

891
00:52:58,080 --> 00:53:00,719
Speaker 1: come like full circle and you and we had real,

892
00:53:01,120 --> 00:53:06,359
Speaker 1: like lives jello shots. We had jello shots. I know

893
00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:10,000
Speaker 1: it was not a little this I know imber party,

894
00:53:10,080 --> 00:53:12,800
Speaker 1: but I don't have no idea I was being honored.

895
00:53:12,920 --> 00:53:16,919
Speaker 1: I don't remember, okay, good and I remember everything trying

896
00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:21,120
Speaker 1: to save my line like it was probably who made

897
00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:28,480
Speaker 1: jello shots? You did? I did? I made him. I

898
00:53:28,520 --> 00:53:31,920
Speaker 1: want this so much. Someone made jello shots, but it

899
00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:35,200
Speaker 1: wasn't probably it sounds like something you would do it. Yeah,

900
00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:38,680
Speaker 1: of course. I just want to give Larry and Chuck

901
00:53:38,719 --> 00:53:41,200
Speaker 1: a chance to talk about Denise and Jessica too, because

902
00:53:41,239 --> 00:53:43,840
Speaker 1: we had talked about them earlier, and of course you

903
00:53:43,920 --> 00:53:47,720
Speaker 1: both worked obviously with Jessica. You worked side by side

904
00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:49,840
Speaker 1: with her through the years. Chuck, do you want to

905
00:53:49,880 --> 00:53:53,520
Speaker 1: talk about Jessica Klein? Yeah, you know, we had gets Gabby,

906
00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:57,360
Speaker 1: he's not not here. We did remember the other girls.

907
00:53:57,400 --> 00:53:58,960
Speaker 1: I don't know if you I think you both talked

908
00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:01,640
Speaker 1: to him. You know, the girls did the Blaze podcast

909
00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:06,600
Speaker 1: and were they they staged a show when we really

910
00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:10,560
Speaker 1: did the Donna Martin Graduates episode at the Fine Arts

911
00:54:10,560 --> 00:54:13,319
Speaker 1: Theater in front of like eight hundred people, and I

912
00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:18,319
Speaker 1: played that insufferable superintendent. And Denise Dallas was in it.

913
00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:22,040
Speaker 1: She played Mrs Teasley and and you know, and and

914
00:54:22,160 --> 00:54:26,040
Speaker 1: uh and in any way, um, that's it was so

915
00:54:26,200 --> 00:54:28,640
Speaker 1: much fun because, you know, as Pete knows a little bit,

916
00:54:29,080 --> 00:54:31,080
Speaker 1: you guys got to hang out on the set with

917
00:54:31,280 --> 00:54:33,560
Speaker 1: Larry and I. We were in the writer's room or

918
00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:37,640
Speaker 1: I'm talking production with our director friends like Mike Goland

919
00:54:38,120 --> 00:54:40,600
Speaker 1: and Dan Addis and whoever else. And so, I you know,

920
00:54:40,760 --> 00:54:45,520
Speaker 1: wasn't able, you know, to to actually even know the

921
00:54:45,600 --> 00:54:48,120
Speaker 1: kind of regular and and we're with us until we

922
00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:51,880
Speaker 1: did this podcast here and having that great experience getting

923
00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:54,120
Speaker 1: to work with her as an actor, for God's sakes,

924
00:54:54,200 --> 00:54:58,839
Speaker 1: you know, so and uh and Jessica, I mean, I

925
00:54:58,840 --> 00:55:01,560
Speaker 1: don't think that. I mean, and we've talked about this

926
00:55:01,600 --> 00:55:04,839
Speaker 1: in our podcast, you know, I don't know if you

927
00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:08,040
Speaker 1: guys felt this, if you've talked about it ever, you know,

928
00:55:08,200 --> 00:55:11,319
Speaker 1: Darren announces he's doing another series, and why don't you

929
00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:13,640
Speaker 1: just yank out my heart? You know, I mean, he

930
00:55:13,760 --> 00:55:16,960
Speaker 1: was a huge part of the production and what are

931
00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:19,200
Speaker 1: we gonna do? How what do we? And and Steve

932
00:55:19,640 --> 00:55:24,040
Speaker 1: and Jessica and I and Karen really resolved to make

933
00:55:24,080 --> 00:55:27,440
Speaker 1: season three the best one we could possibly do without him.

934
00:55:27,520 --> 00:55:30,960
Speaker 1: And so you know that was Jessica, That was that

935
00:55:31,040 --> 00:55:33,400
Speaker 1: was That was a full major year, you guys know

936
00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:38,440
Speaker 1: it from going to Paris to the Triangle car blowing

937
00:55:38,520 --> 00:55:41,640
Speaker 1: up to graduation. What a thing. And you know, so

938
00:55:42,239 --> 00:55:45,520
Speaker 1: that Jessica and Steve were there every minute of that

939
00:55:45,719 --> 00:55:50,200
Speaker 1: and Mr Hot and was really comforted to see you

940
00:55:50,280 --> 00:55:54,480
Speaker 1: there that day, Jenny. I gotta say though, real quick,

941
00:55:54,520 --> 00:55:58,520
Speaker 1: sorry that to date, we hear this all the time.

942
00:55:58,719 --> 00:56:04,200
Speaker 1: Season three is by far the fan fave season. Pete,

943
00:56:04,719 --> 00:56:09,440
Speaker 1: are we wrong? Everybody? Does? I actually like season four more?

944
00:56:09,480 --> 00:56:10,920
Speaker 1: But that's just me. I'm sorry. I don't need to

945
00:56:10,920 --> 00:56:13,160
Speaker 1: put my way my thoughts in. But season three and

946
00:56:13,320 --> 00:56:17,239
Speaker 1: three and four, that's what everyone says. Yeah, season four

947
00:56:17,320 --> 00:56:20,000
Speaker 1: had Mullen. You know, it's pretty hard to stop that.

948
00:56:20,480 --> 00:56:23,200
Speaker 1: Larry Mullen, Right, yes, Larry, do you want to weigh

949
00:56:23,200 --> 00:56:26,920
Speaker 1: in on Jessica? You know, you know, I came in

950
00:56:26,920 --> 00:56:29,400
Speaker 1: in season four, so Jessica and Steve was at the

951
00:56:29,440 --> 00:56:32,640
Speaker 1: height of their powers, and uh, you know, Jessica was really,

952
00:56:32,640 --> 00:56:35,880
Speaker 1: really bright, and you know, she understood how to frame

953
00:56:35,920 --> 00:56:38,680
Speaker 1: his story and she was basically we've talked about the poor,

954
00:56:38,760 --> 00:56:41,279
Speaker 1: but she was the go to person to pitch the

955
00:56:41,320 --> 00:56:44,520
Speaker 1: story to, you know, to Mr Spelling, you know, because

956
00:56:44,560 --> 00:56:46,840
Speaker 1: that's a you know, a terrifying aspect. We got it.

957
00:56:46,880 --> 00:56:48,920
Speaker 1: Now we've done all this work, We've gotta not present

958
00:56:49,000 --> 00:56:51,319
Speaker 1: the stories to Mr Spelling. Of course he wants to

959
00:56:51,360 --> 00:56:53,319
Speaker 1: know what Donna is doing first, but she knew that,

960
00:56:53,400 --> 00:56:55,839
Speaker 1: she knew to do that. But but now it's all

961
00:56:55,840 --> 00:56:58,200
Speaker 1: our all our our our goodies are in her, you know,

962
00:56:58,320 --> 00:57:01,120
Speaker 1: in her in her bag basic and she would always

963
00:57:01,120 --> 00:57:02,839
Speaker 1: do it. She would be brilliant at it, and that

964
00:57:02,840 --> 00:57:05,000
Speaker 1: that was her strong thing. The other thing, you know,

965
00:57:05,640 --> 00:57:09,359
Speaker 1: se her were there. She was the typest. Yeah. Also

966
00:57:09,440 --> 00:57:14,000
Speaker 1: the network too, and the network you weren't friendly house. Yeah,

967
00:57:14,600 --> 00:57:16,680
Speaker 1: they were ready to oh, that one's not gonna work.

968
00:57:16,760 --> 00:57:19,400
Speaker 1: So you know, we had and she was great at that,

969
00:57:19,600 --> 00:57:22,160
Speaker 1: you know, she had a great grasp and it's just

970
00:57:22,200 --> 00:57:24,160
Speaker 1: it's it's tragic because she was young, you know. I

971
00:57:24,200 --> 00:57:27,520
Speaker 1: mean it's kind of upsetting, you know, but we loved it.

972
00:57:27,600 --> 00:57:28,960
Speaker 1: We got a chance to you know, we had to

973
00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:31,360
Speaker 1: chance to kind of reunite with her and all the

974
00:57:31,400 --> 00:57:33,200
Speaker 1: other people with her too over the last day a

975
00:57:33,240 --> 00:57:48,840
Speaker 1: couple of years. So you know, there's that Wow, this

976
00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:52,120
Speaker 1: is so nice to get together and talk about Joey

977
00:57:52,160 --> 00:57:59,840
Speaker 1: and Jessica, Denise. It's it's good. Oh, Chuck, we have

978
00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:02,520
Speaker 1: a question for you about Denise because we were trying

979
00:58:02,520 --> 00:58:05,400
Speaker 1: to figure this out. So how did the role of

980
00:58:05,840 --> 00:58:08,680
Speaker 1: Mrs Teasley because originally we saw she was in it

981
00:58:08,960 --> 00:58:14,320
Speaker 1: as she was with the twins, the twin testing that

982
00:58:14,360 --> 00:58:18,360
Speaker 1: episode or something right, as someone else, and then she

983
00:58:18,480 --> 00:58:22,200
Speaker 1: came back as Mrs Teasley? How did that work? And

984
00:58:22,720 --> 00:58:25,680
Speaker 1: did you plan on her being recurring? I mean that

985
00:58:25,800 --> 00:58:28,560
Speaker 1: part grew and grew and grew. Was that because of

986
00:58:28,560 --> 00:58:32,720
Speaker 1: her personality or how did that come about? Yes? Yes,

987
00:58:32,760 --> 00:58:36,560
Speaker 1: it actually was Tori. She she you know, and I

988
00:58:36,600 --> 00:58:39,600
Speaker 1: had to be reminded of that, but it was you know,

989
00:58:39,640 --> 00:58:44,440
Speaker 1: every once in a while, Um, Diane Young would come

990
00:58:44,480 --> 00:58:47,720
Speaker 1: in and say, remember this actress did only this part

991
00:58:47,800 --> 00:58:50,320
Speaker 1: and you really liked her, and she did well, and

992
00:58:50,360 --> 00:58:53,960
Speaker 1: she would like to come back. And I think that's

993
00:58:54,000 --> 00:58:56,880
Speaker 1: that's what it was. She wanted to do it, and

994
00:58:56,960 --> 00:58:59,920
Speaker 1: we knew and you know, with it with with Denise

995
00:59:00,040 --> 00:59:03,680
Speaker 1: is quality. Particularly then she's being and very much like

996
00:59:04,240 --> 00:59:07,760
Speaker 1: Karen and my French Um the Janice who who was

997
00:59:09,280 --> 00:59:12,600
Speaker 1: the real life Mrs Teasley that was her last name

998
00:59:12,680 --> 00:59:16,480
Speaker 1: was Teesley. And and but anyway, uh, and we know

999
00:59:16,600 --> 00:59:19,400
Speaker 1: well well, but also I don't really lovely speaking points

1000
00:59:20,000 --> 00:59:22,800
Speaker 1: and you know, with the principles in a lot of

1001
00:59:22,800 --> 00:59:25,920
Speaker 1: the different schools, you know, there's assemblies, and it's the person.

1002
00:59:25,960 --> 00:59:29,880
Speaker 1: We knew she'd have great commands and um, and we

1003
00:59:29,880 --> 00:59:33,160
Speaker 1: were you know, and I'm not ashamed to say this

1004
00:59:32,720 --> 00:59:35,560
Speaker 1: at this point. You know, we we weren't just like

1005
00:59:35,640 --> 00:59:39,200
Speaker 1: we had Henry at the Beach Club and Denise. We

1006
00:59:39,200 --> 00:59:42,000
Speaker 1: we knew, you know, here on our main cast we

1007
00:59:42,080 --> 00:59:45,480
Speaker 1: didn't have people of color, so we also really looked

1008
00:59:45,520 --> 00:59:49,840
Speaker 1: to bolster that and he became such good friends of

1009
00:59:49,880 --> 00:59:54,960
Speaker 1: the show and and of all of you. Clearly, Yeah, hi, Karen,

1010
00:59:55,120 --> 01:00:00,280
Speaker 1: Karen Rosen, you were just talking about Denise. But you

1011
01:00:00,360 --> 01:00:04,560
Speaker 1: know what, if you remember this isn't for Joey. God

1012
01:00:04,600 --> 01:00:07,280
Speaker 1: he was. He was always very nice to me. I

1013
01:00:07,320 --> 01:00:10,240
Speaker 1: think the ladies will remember this. And I think I

1014
01:00:10,320 --> 01:00:14,120
Speaker 1: speak for Jessica. I love a salam um that he

1015
01:00:14,280 --> 01:00:16,960
Speaker 1: was kind of flirty, you know, he was like um

1016
01:00:17,560 --> 01:00:21,280
Speaker 1: and such diplomatic. It was like a rap party or

1017
01:00:22,160 --> 01:00:25,320
Speaker 1: you know, something where there was alcohol available. You know,

1018
01:00:25,400 --> 01:00:29,000
Speaker 1: then I would be sure to have a long conversation

1019
01:00:29,120 --> 01:00:33,919
Speaker 1: with with Joey, very close, very close quarters, a long conversation.

1020
01:00:34,440 --> 01:00:38,520
Speaker 1: And you know, he never acted disappointed in the outcome.

1021
01:00:38,600 --> 01:00:41,040
Speaker 1: But you know, I think he was. I think he was.

1022
01:00:42,440 --> 01:00:44,680
Speaker 1: He was very friendly, let me just say that. But

1023
01:00:44,760 --> 01:00:47,040
Speaker 1: we loved him. He was great. He was. It was,

1024
01:00:47,760 --> 01:00:51,320
Speaker 1: you know, a pro, a veteran actor. Great to have

1025
01:00:51,800 --> 01:00:55,479
Speaker 1: with the young folks. And it was fun to write

1026
01:00:55,520 --> 01:00:57,560
Speaker 1: for now. It was fun to write for him, you

1027
01:00:57,600 --> 01:01:00,200
Speaker 1: know what I was thinking relative to Karen with are

1028
01:01:00,280 --> 01:01:03,320
Speaker 1: writing for Joey, and and it was one that was

1029
01:01:03,360 --> 01:01:06,480
Speaker 1: so important. And when when when Brenda, when we did

1030
01:01:06,520 --> 01:01:10,360
Speaker 1: Brenda go to the peach pit and be Laverne, you know,

1031
01:01:10,520 --> 01:01:13,200
Speaker 1: which was a crazy notion to have her dress off

1032
01:01:13,560 --> 01:01:16,520
Speaker 1: and be that character and One of the reasons it

1033
01:01:16,800 --> 01:01:20,800
Speaker 1: worked is because Joey was, you know, as the owner

1034
01:01:20,880 --> 01:01:22,960
Speaker 1: of it, wasn't Paul. He just went with it. Oh

1035
01:01:23,240 --> 01:01:26,560
Speaker 1: here's this crazy kid doing it, and and going and

1036
01:01:26,560 --> 01:01:29,800
Speaker 1: sometimes looking back at that episode and you guys doing

1037
01:01:29,880 --> 01:01:33,120
Speaker 1: your I think you were the choreographer of that tory

1038
01:01:33,280 --> 01:01:36,240
Speaker 1: of of breaking up as hard to do whatever you

1039
01:01:36,280 --> 01:01:39,120
Speaker 1: were doing that did that one in there at least

1040
01:01:39,400 --> 01:01:42,400
Speaker 1: bringing up that was a different one. But um, anyway,

1041
01:01:42,720 --> 01:01:46,000
Speaker 1: you know that light quality that that he could bring,

1042
01:01:46,040 --> 01:01:48,160
Speaker 1: that he made it a place you wanted. You wanted

1043
01:01:48,240 --> 01:01:50,520
Speaker 1: to be in the peach pit. You wanted it was

1044
01:01:50,600 --> 01:01:53,480
Speaker 1: our version of cheers, everyone knows your name, you know

1045
01:01:53,600 --> 01:01:57,160
Speaker 1: kind of thing. It was also a spot where they

1046
01:01:57,160 --> 01:01:59,560
Speaker 1: would freaklent. That was one of the places we could

1047
01:01:59,640 --> 01:02:03,040
Speaker 1: sometime to have a hole cast scene in the peach

1048
01:02:03,080 --> 01:02:06,840
Speaker 1: pit or multiples a lot of people in there, and

1049
01:02:07,600 --> 01:02:09,640
Speaker 1: those were I was just saying this to somebody else

1050
01:02:09,680 --> 01:02:14,520
Speaker 1: this morning, that when the whole gang got together, everyone's

1051
01:02:14,560 --> 01:02:19,400
Speaker 1: individual I'm just gonna say star quality. Their charisma was

1052
01:02:19,560 --> 01:02:23,240
Speaker 1: magnified and amplified by being all together, and it was

1053
01:02:23,360 --> 01:02:25,920
Speaker 1: like more than the sum of its parts. And it

1054
01:02:25,960 --> 01:02:28,440
Speaker 1: was fun, really fun to watch, you know, in person

1055
01:02:28,480 --> 01:02:30,520
Speaker 1: on the set, I just felt very privileged when I

1056
01:02:30,560 --> 01:02:33,520
Speaker 1: was that um and then teach it was one of

1057
01:02:33,560 --> 01:02:37,800
Speaker 1: those locations where it was. But that's that episode with Leburn.

1058
01:02:37,880 --> 01:02:40,680
Speaker 1: That's an example of one that the network didn't I

1059
01:02:40,720 --> 01:02:43,280
Speaker 1: didn't care about so much, but the fans really loved,

1060
01:02:43,360 --> 01:02:46,920
Speaker 1: and Joey would always tell me that that was their

1061
01:02:46,920 --> 01:02:49,120
Speaker 1: favorite episode. They would come up to people would tell

1062
01:02:49,160 --> 01:02:52,000
Speaker 1: him that was my shavorite, so he would always give

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01:02:52,040 --> 01:02:56,480
Speaker 1: me that compliment. Always very sweet to me. Um Yeah,

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01:02:56,920 --> 01:03:00,240
Speaker 1: non really to Jenny Tory lindsay, did you guys ever

1065
01:03:00,320 --> 01:03:02,720
Speaker 1: eat a mega burger? What is that? What is Oh

1066
01:03:02,720 --> 01:03:05,120
Speaker 1: my gosh, you just read my mind. I was literally

1067
01:03:05,200 --> 01:03:08,439
Speaker 1: just thinking about omega burger. Well, I mean I would

1068
01:03:08,480 --> 01:03:09,840
Speaker 1: love to have one. I don't know where I would

1069
01:03:09,840 --> 01:03:13,360
Speaker 1: get that, but but but did you get it? You

1070
01:03:13,360 --> 01:03:17,000
Speaker 1: can get it from Fat Burger. That's where we got it. Okay,

1071
01:03:17,000 --> 01:03:19,200
Speaker 1: so I'm going to go to Fat Burger. They would

1072
01:03:19,240 --> 01:03:22,880
Speaker 1: literally pick up Fat Burger that morning and plate them. Yep,

1073
01:03:22,960 --> 01:03:28,040
Speaker 1: that's a mega Fat Burger. Ken would have done that. Yeah,

1074
01:03:28,120 --> 01:03:31,280
Speaker 1: but you can't think of the peach Pit without thinking

1075
01:03:31,920 --> 01:03:35,240
Speaker 1: of Nat like they're one and the same they go

1076
01:03:35,320 --> 01:03:40,880
Speaker 1: down in history together and that the uniform and it's

1077
01:03:40,960 --> 01:03:45,520
Speaker 1: this remarkable what an impact that character did have on

1078
01:03:45,560 --> 01:03:50,280
Speaker 1: the whole, like you know, sphere of the show and

1079
01:03:51,120 --> 01:03:53,080
Speaker 1: how big it was. But it always came back to

1080
01:03:53,560 --> 01:03:57,840
Speaker 1: everybody knows the peach pit. Everybody knows Nat Yeah, Chuck,

1081
01:03:57,840 --> 01:04:00,200
Speaker 1: who named it the peach pit? I believe it was

1082
01:04:00,320 --> 01:04:03,080
Speaker 1: Charles right, which because it was after the Apple Pan.

1083
01:04:04,200 --> 01:04:06,840
Speaker 1: That's how I remember and why the peach pit was

1084
01:04:06,880 --> 01:04:09,520
Speaker 1: that in honor of the apple po it was the

1085
01:04:09,520 --> 01:04:14,840
Speaker 1: apple Okay. In fact, when they told them this is

1086
01:04:14,840 --> 01:04:17,880
Speaker 1: what we were basing it on the location, people, I went,

1087
01:04:17,920 --> 01:04:19,440
Speaker 1: I looked at it, and they built it on the

1088
01:04:19,440 --> 01:04:23,720
Speaker 1: set the same way, with no tables because doesn't happy

1089
01:04:25,320 --> 01:04:27,600
Speaker 1: just the counter? Yeah, and then they had to add

1090
01:04:27,640 --> 01:04:30,600
Speaker 1: the tables. Yeah, because well, everybody was very happy when

1091
01:04:30,640 --> 01:04:32,800
Speaker 1: we just built the counter because that's all we could

1092
01:04:32,800 --> 01:04:39,400
Speaker 1: afford to build. And white peaches who picked peaches who

1093
01:04:39,440 --> 01:04:43,880
Speaker 1: like the peaches, well, Apple Pan, peach pitch. You know,

1094
01:04:45,680 --> 01:04:49,720
Speaker 1: it just came to him in a moment of if

1095
01:04:49,760 --> 01:04:52,560
Speaker 1: I could get inside the mind of a writer, I

1096
01:04:52,600 --> 01:04:55,120
Speaker 1: would love it because that this doesn't come to my mind.

1097
01:04:56,280 --> 01:04:59,960
Speaker 1: Apple Pan Larry talked about Larry my mind, be careful.

1098
01:05:02,080 --> 01:05:04,560
Speaker 1: You know, there's something should talk about. Didn't Joey have

1099
01:05:04,720 --> 01:05:09,720
Speaker 1: this plan to franchise the Peach picture, Yes, and I

1100
01:05:09,720 --> 01:05:11,400
Speaker 1: think it was one of the you know, he never

1101
01:05:11,440 --> 01:05:13,400
Speaker 1: really got it going. I know, it really haunted him

1102
01:05:13,440 --> 01:05:15,360
Speaker 1: a lot of ways because it ran just some problems.

1103
01:05:15,360 --> 01:05:17,480
Speaker 1: But that was kind of going for a while in

1104
01:05:17,280 --> 01:05:20,120
Speaker 1: the middle seasons. He was gonna have this thing and

1105
01:05:20,880 --> 01:05:23,240
Speaker 1: all over the world. Yeah, I think Iron was Wasn't

1106
01:05:23,240 --> 01:05:26,680
Speaker 1: Iron involved with that whole idea? You maybe you know

1107
01:05:26,680 --> 01:05:34,320
Speaker 1: who it was, the you know the guy, Yeah, the

1108
01:05:34,360 --> 01:05:41,439
Speaker 1: guy whoa his buddy. The rat pack was their deal.

1109
01:05:42,320 --> 01:05:44,800
Speaker 1: I want to switch because Carol Potter has joined us

1110
01:05:44,840 --> 01:05:52,240
Speaker 1: here as well. Cal Hello everybody, you see all your

1111
01:05:52,320 --> 01:05:59,240
Speaker 1: faces YouTube, Jenny h He's all shared some really great

1112
01:05:59,320 --> 01:06:03,960
Speaker 1: stories about Joey and just our memories of him. Would

1113
01:06:04,000 --> 01:06:06,120
Speaker 1: you like to share with us? Yeah, he had a

1114
01:06:06,120 --> 01:06:08,680
Speaker 1: lot of stories too, he was I had had a

1115
01:06:08,680 --> 01:06:11,840
Speaker 1: lot of stories. But you know, during the show, we

1116
01:06:11,920 --> 01:06:14,800
Speaker 1: didn't um we the parents didn't hang out at the

1117
01:06:14,840 --> 01:06:18,720
Speaker 1: Peach bit, surprisingly, but I ran into him at a

1118
01:06:18,720 --> 01:06:22,760
Speaker 1: at a benefit. This woman who had a terrible experience

1119
01:06:22,800 --> 01:06:25,960
Speaker 1: with lyme disease and nine O two on oh was

1120
01:06:26,000 --> 01:06:28,200
Speaker 1: one of the things that helped her get through. And

1121
01:06:28,400 --> 01:06:31,200
Speaker 1: Joey happened to be there, and so we we had

1122
01:06:31,200 --> 01:06:35,920
Speaker 1: a great time and did another Yeah yeah remember that

1123
01:06:37,040 --> 01:06:40,480
Speaker 1: very interesting, And then we did another. We went to

1124
01:06:40,560 --> 01:06:47,160
Speaker 1: New Jersey for one of those um celebrity confidence things

1125
01:06:47,200 --> 01:06:50,840
Speaker 1: and um it was you know, those things can be

1126
01:06:50,960 --> 01:06:55,760
Speaker 1: so so wearing. But it was great to have him

1127
01:06:55,800 --> 01:06:58,600
Speaker 1: there and we could just bounce stuff off of one

1128
01:06:58,600 --> 01:07:04,080
Speaker 1: another and was good company. Um. And what a devoted father.

1129
01:07:04,240 --> 01:07:07,959
Speaker 1: I mean he talked about his daughter all all the time.

1130
01:07:08,080 --> 01:07:12,000
Speaker 1: His world just revolved around her. She was Kelly was

1131
01:07:12,080 --> 01:07:14,280
Speaker 1: basically raised on the set of nine O two and

1132
01:07:14,360 --> 01:07:18,720
Speaker 1: now his daughter. She was always there growing up. I

1133
01:07:18,720 --> 01:07:23,720
Speaker 1: had forgotten that that's true. I remember now she was

1134
01:07:23,840 --> 01:07:26,840
Speaker 1: little when we met her, little little. He was crazy

1135
01:07:26,880 --> 01:07:29,880
Speaker 1: about her. Yeah. How old was she when when the

1136
01:07:29,920 --> 01:07:34,360
Speaker 1: show started? Oh my gosh, gosh, how under ten? I

1137
01:07:34,400 --> 01:07:39,160
Speaker 1: don't have yeah, definitely like yeah wow. Speaking of the

1138
01:07:39,160 --> 01:07:42,920
Speaker 1: peach fit, I had a really weird, like meta meta

1139
01:07:43,160 --> 01:07:47,960
Speaker 1: moment when my kids um school fundraiser this year. The

1140
01:07:47,960 --> 01:07:52,560
Speaker 1: theme was nine ohs oh for nine, which was the

1141
01:07:52,840 --> 01:07:55,080
Speaker 1: zip code of the school and it was a nine

1142
01:07:55,200 --> 01:07:58,680
Speaker 1: two themed fundraiser and I had to go to the

1143
01:07:58,720 --> 01:08:02,000
Speaker 1: fundraiser and everyone it's just like, you know, there were

1144
01:08:02,040 --> 01:08:03,800
Speaker 1: just a lot of nats. There are a lot of

1145
01:08:03,880 --> 01:08:06,560
Speaker 1: nats there, and just tell you that did you dress

1146
01:08:06,600 --> 01:08:11,400
Speaker 1: this Janet? Well, my husband wanted to be Steve, and

1147
01:08:11,560 --> 01:08:13,040
Speaker 1: who's like, just go as you and I don't know,

1148
01:08:13,760 --> 01:08:17,120
Speaker 1: I don't know how to nail this. No, that's a

1149
01:08:17,160 --> 01:08:20,600
Speaker 1: really good idea. Yeah, And I don't even know if

1150
01:08:20,640 --> 01:08:22,280
Speaker 1: half the moms knew I ever saw on the show,

1151
01:08:22,600 --> 01:08:29,200
Speaker 1: but I wanted I was Berda and my my blonde

1152
01:08:29,240 --> 01:08:33,120
Speaker 1: friend was was Kelly, and we wore the same prom dress.

1153
01:08:33,960 --> 01:08:38,759
Speaker 1: I want to see that. That's great. I think Jason

1154
01:08:38,800 --> 01:08:42,120
Speaker 1: had his daughter had a thing where she had a dress,

1155
01:08:42,160 --> 01:08:45,760
Speaker 1: a dance, yeah, dance and nine theme dance at her

1156
01:08:45,800 --> 01:08:49,960
Speaker 1: school too. She's probably really popular that night. And yeah,

1157
01:08:50,040 --> 01:08:54,439
Speaker 1: there are pictures of her dad there. So crazy. And

1158
01:08:54,680 --> 01:08:57,320
Speaker 1: the point to makeup, just to mention, is that in

1159
01:08:57,360 --> 01:09:00,280
Speaker 1: the various stages of nine two that came back, they

1160
01:09:00,320 --> 01:09:02,760
Speaker 1: always brought Nat back. Right in the in the Little

1161
01:09:03,200 --> 01:09:05,840
Speaker 1: w version, they brought Nat back and he had some

1162
01:09:06,000 --> 01:09:09,519
Speaker 1: like coffee shop, peach pit which is just really bizarre.

1163
01:09:10,040 --> 01:09:12,160
Speaker 1: But but he was there. I mean, so did you

1164
01:09:12,200 --> 01:09:14,200
Speaker 1: get to reconnect with him, Jenny when you when you

1165
01:09:14,240 --> 01:09:18,800
Speaker 1: did that, I wasn't on that. You weren't on that.

1166
01:09:20,840 --> 01:09:24,200
Speaker 1: She's joking, No, I'm joking. He wasn't on it when

1167
01:09:24,200 --> 01:09:25,439
Speaker 1: I was on it. I was only on it for

1168
01:09:25,920 --> 01:09:32,120
Speaker 1: how many episodes? Two? Just like three? I think it

1169
01:09:32,200 --> 01:09:34,600
Speaker 1: is an inside joke that we were talking about the

1170
01:09:34,640 --> 01:09:38,200
Speaker 1: c W version and Jen was like, well, I don't

1171
01:09:38,240 --> 01:09:40,240
Speaker 1: remember that much. I was only on three episodes. I

1172
01:09:40,280 --> 01:09:42,120
Speaker 1: was like, I'm telling you, you were on a lot

1173
01:09:42,160 --> 01:09:45,439
Speaker 1: of them. And then we googled it together and she

1174
01:09:45,520 --> 01:09:51,839
Speaker 1: was on twenty two episodes. I was gonna say, like character, yeah, piotal.

1175
01:09:52,200 --> 01:09:54,519
Speaker 1: She probably wasn't on the episode. Was he only in

1176
01:09:54,600 --> 01:09:57,040
Speaker 1: one episode? I think it was on one episode. That's

1177
01:09:57,080 --> 01:09:59,160
Speaker 1: so cool though, that they did that. You know, I

1178
01:09:59,200 --> 01:10:02,160
Speaker 1: wouldn't I don't would have remembered seeing him there, and

1179
01:10:02,240 --> 01:10:05,000
Speaker 1: we would have absolutely, of course had him on b

1180
01:10:05,200 --> 01:10:07,120
Speaker 1: H nine O two and oh, but we knew, you know,

1181
01:10:07,240 --> 01:10:10,800
Speaker 1: he was already diagnosed with Alzheimer's and suffering, and when

1182
01:10:10,880 --> 01:10:12,920
Speaker 1: we saw him at the peach Pit at the pop

1183
01:10:13,000 --> 01:10:16,200
Speaker 1: up afterwards, he in fact said to us, you know,

1184
01:10:16,280 --> 01:10:17,840
Speaker 1: I want I want to be on it. We're like

1185
01:10:17,920 --> 01:10:20,280
Speaker 1: second season. If it goes a second season, of course

1186
01:10:20,320 --> 01:10:23,840
Speaker 1: you're going to be on it. And then it didn't. Yeah,

1187
01:10:23,880 --> 01:10:26,640
Speaker 1: it should be. There should have been a second season. Sorry,

1188
01:10:27,560 --> 01:10:29,280
Speaker 1: I had to tell you. Can I just pipe in

1189
01:10:29,280 --> 01:10:31,679
Speaker 1: and say to you girls, you did such a perfect job.

1190
01:10:31,800 --> 01:10:36,639
Speaker 1: I thought you did this, Thank you. It was so

1191
01:10:36,800 --> 01:10:40,240
Speaker 1: clever and so well done. We had fun, right, Carol,

1192
01:10:40,960 --> 01:10:43,760
Speaker 1: that was That was my best day of filming in

1193
01:10:43,840 --> 01:10:47,960
Speaker 1: my entire career. Oh my god, we had so much

1194
01:10:48,040 --> 01:10:50,600
Speaker 1: fun that that was such a great day. It was

1195
01:10:50,640 --> 01:10:55,000
Speaker 1: so nice that Jason was directing and we basically were

1196
01:10:55,080 --> 01:10:57,880
Speaker 1: just hanging out together all day on the set, right

1197
01:10:57,880 --> 01:11:01,559
Speaker 1: because we're all sitting there, there was barely of any blocking. Yeah,

1198
01:11:01,680 --> 01:11:06,040
Speaker 1: Carol played our theory, and there was such a different

1199
01:11:06,080 --> 01:11:10,280
Speaker 1: experience than being like teenagers on set and in our minds,

1200
01:11:10,320 --> 01:11:13,439
Speaker 1: you know, Carol was the parents, and now it was

1201
01:11:13,479 --> 01:11:15,559
Speaker 1: like we were all peers and we were sitting there

1202
01:11:15,560 --> 01:11:17,880
Speaker 1: and we got to know Carol on a different level.

1203
01:11:18,240 --> 01:11:20,120
Speaker 1: We're like, oh my god, what were we missing all

1204
01:11:20,120 --> 01:11:23,479
Speaker 1: these years. You're so funny, You're so cool, Like we

1205
01:11:23,520 --> 01:11:26,960
Speaker 1: should have been hanging out with you. Well, I was

1206
01:11:27,080 --> 01:11:31,080
Speaker 1: just it was thrilled to hang out with adults. You

1207
01:11:31,200 --> 01:11:36,360
Speaker 1: guys become um, you know, that's very special. That's very special.

1208
01:11:36,640 --> 01:11:39,800
Speaker 1: Thank you. And Joey actually got to see a lot

1209
01:11:39,840 --> 01:11:42,960
Speaker 1: more of that, didn't he, Because he was on the

1210
01:11:43,000 --> 01:11:46,680
Speaker 1: whole ten years, wasn't he. So he got to be

1211
01:11:46,840 --> 01:11:51,000
Speaker 1: with you as you sort of grew into more of

1212
01:11:51,040 --> 01:11:54,040
Speaker 1: an adulthood, right, and all of us kind of we

1213
01:11:54,040 --> 01:11:56,599
Speaker 1: were always all at the peach pits, so he got

1214
01:11:56,600 --> 01:11:59,200
Speaker 1: to be with all of us all the time, which

1215
01:11:59,240 --> 01:12:01,400
Speaker 1: one you didn't really get to have that. Well, we

1216
01:12:01,560 --> 01:12:07,840
Speaker 1: had you in the living room, living room, and of

1217
01:12:07,880 --> 01:12:10,519
Speaker 1: course there's a last episode of season one, you know,

1218
01:12:11,200 --> 01:12:16,479
Speaker 1: going away late Ye that parents were there, came to

1219
01:12:16,479 --> 01:12:19,840
Speaker 1: the peach right, that's right. So yes, occasionally we showed

1220
01:12:19,880 --> 01:12:23,400
Speaker 1: up at the peach bit and wait the second you Carol,

1221
01:12:23,439 --> 01:12:27,240
Speaker 1: But you know remember the episode where house um, where

1222
01:12:27,320 --> 01:12:32,680
Speaker 1: Jane were went to the cam all karaoke client put

1223
01:12:32,720 --> 01:12:36,960
Speaker 1: the karaoke machine. Everybody that was early karaoke there was,

1224
01:12:37,120 --> 01:12:39,639
Speaker 1: you know in the United States and you got guys

1225
01:12:39,680 --> 01:12:43,200
Speaker 1: were doing it down in Koreatown a lot. You you

1226
01:12:43,240 --> 01:12:46,599
Speaker 1: were cutting edge on the karaoke scene. They're cutting edge

1227
01:12:46,600 --> 01:12:50,400
Speaker 1: on everything. By the way, really we talk on our

1228
01:12:50,439 --> 01:12:53,000
Speaker 1: podcast all the time about nine O, two and O

1229
01:12:53,160 --> 01:12:57,040
Speaker 1: the stories everything connected to it, um, talking about the

1230
01:12:57,160 --> 01:13:00,400
Speaker 1: environment even back then, like it was all so like

1231
01:13:00,479 --> 01:13:03,760
Speaker 1: cutting edge of what would like end up you know,

1232
01:13:03,800 --> 01:13:07,240
Speaker 1: being huge now that everyone talks about the topical you know,

1233
01:13:07,320 --> 01:13:11,799
Speaker 1: issues we dealt with. Well even so, the one thing is, Michael,

1234
01:13:12,479 --> 01:13:15,519
Speaker 1: this is more for you. Um. We saw this episode,

1235
01:13:15,560 --> 01:13:19,719
Speaker 1: second one we did with uh when the Joey got casting.

1236
01:13:19,800 --> 01:13:23,360
Speaker 1: In fact, um, it had to do with shoplifting. And

1237
01:13:23,400 --> 01:13:25,679
Speaker 1: I'm looking at I haven't seen it since its air.

1238
01:13:26,280 --> 01:13:29,559
Speaker 1: That pet confirmed this. There's a whole passage they started

1239
01:13:29,680 --> 01:13:33,640
Speaker 1: the girls are sitting around talking about white privilege in

1240
01:13:36,200 --> 01:13:43,920
Speaker 1: talking Wow. So you know it was like we really

1241
01:13:43,960 --> 01:13:48,760
Speaker 1: were in some of this cutting edge uh political discourse here.

1242
01:13:49,200 --> 01:13:53,840
Speaker 1: That's that's pretty amazing. I think I need to go

1243
01:13:53,880 --> 01:13:58,800
Speaker 1: watch it again. Now. That was the second episode chup,

1244
01:13:59,240 --> 01:14:03,040
Speaker 1: not after the pilot, but the second season. First when

1245
01:14:03,040 --> 01:14:07,559
Speaker 1: you met Dylan, then I guess the second one you

1246
01:14:07,600 --> 01:14:14,240
Speaker 1: met Nat and you know when James and I whenever

1247
01:14:14,240 --> 01:14:18,719
Speaker 1: there was like an adult on the set usually glombed

1248
01:14:18,800 --> 01:14:23,920
Speaker 1: onto the adult like really connecting with Joey in that.

1249
01:14:24,080 --> 01:14:29,200
Speaker 1: In that episode, we talked about sometimes on OMG, we

1250
01:14:29,240 --> 01:14:32,320
Speaker 1: talked about how the things that are show got some

1251
01:14:32,400 --> 01:14:34,120
Speaker 1: of the things that are show got away with, saying

1252
01:14:34,160 --> 01:14:37,000
Speaker 1: that you can never get away with Oh my god. Yes,

1253
01:14:38,080 --> 01:14:41,040
Speaker 1: they stick out like red flags now, like things that

1254
01:14:41,400 --> 01:14:46,240
Speaker 1: people would just freak out about these days. Yeah, and

1255
01:14:47,160 --> 01:14:49,880
Speaker 1: it's interesting to see how how we got away with

1256
01:14:49,880 --> 01:14:52,680
Speaker 1: it and how wasn't it wasn't such a topic of

1257
01:14:52,680 --> 01:14:56,120
Speaker 1: conversation back then. Well, it's it's really interesting. You know.

1258
01:14:56,160 --> 01:14:57,920
Speaker 1: I taught for a couple of years of U C

1259
01:14:58,080 --> 01:15:00,960
Speaker 1: l A. And I wanted to do like a history

1260
01:15:01,040 --> 01:15:06,280
Speaker 1: of network programming, and I started, I want to see

1261
01:15:06,280 --> 01:15:08,439
Speaker 1: if I could get a shook class like that together.

1262
01:15:09,200 --> 01:15:12,200
Speaker 1: And one of my favorite shows of all time, Karen

1263
01:15:12,240 --> 01:15:16,000
Speaker 1: Knows It's his Hill Street Blues. Nobody had ever seen

1264
01:15:16,040 --> 01:15:19,439
Speaker 1: anything like Hill Street Blues when it first aired, and

1265
01:15:19,520 --> 01:15:24,760
Speaker 1: today it is unwatchable. It is so sexist and racist

1266
01:15:24,880 --> 01:15:28,200
Speaker 1: and vile. And we were sitting there with the director,

1267
01:15:28,320 --> 01:15:32,080
Speaker 1: a fine man named Bob Butler, a really classy individual.

1268
01:15:32,360 --> 01:15:34,960
Speaker 1: I actually did a pilot with him for ABC at

1269
01:15:35,000 --> 01:15:38,840
Speaker 1: one point and really enjoyed the experience. Immensely and he

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01:15:38,920 --> 01:15:43,240
Speaker 1: was embarrassed, like like turn it off. It was it

1271
01:15:43,360 --> 01:15:45,479
Speaker 1: was a different country and we got away with a

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01:15:45,520 --> 01:15:49,920
Speaker 1: lot of stuff. Yeah, this has been great, guys, catching

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01:15:50,000 --> 01:15:53,120
Speaker 1: up and seeing all of you and reliving this stuff.

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01:15:53,560 --> 01:15:56,400
Speaker 1: You know, I mean this all three people that I've gotten.

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01:15:56,439 --> 01:15:58,679
Speaker 1: I got to know Jessica. We had Denis on our

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01:15:58,680 --> 01:16:01,599
Speaker 1: podcast too, and and we did that zoom with with

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01:16:01,680 --> 01:16:04,360
Speaker 1: Joey and it was really it's been just great to

1278
01:16:04,400 --> 01:16:07,559
Speaker 1: be part of this universe. And I know as a fan,

1279
01:16:07,720 --> 01:16:09,560
Speaker 1: like as I said to you guys earlier, like you

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01:16:09,720 --> 01:16:13,280
Speaker 1: really made a difference in your work. And um, I

1281
01:16:13,280 --> 01:16:15,840
Speaker 1: think a lot of people are looking for a place

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01:16:15,880 --> 01:16:18,120
Speaker 1: to go right now when they're dealing with their own

1283
01:16:18,160 --> 01:16:19,960
Speaker 1: loss and whatnot. And the fact that they have Beverly

1284
01:16:20,000 --> 01:16:22,559
Speaker 1: Hills Nino too and what we were just talking about

1285
01:16:22,720 --> 01:16:25,200
Speaker 1: is so important because it's a place that is always

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01:16:25,200 --> 01:16:28,880
Speaker 1: there for them. So um, it's it's really beautiful. What

1287
01:16:28,920 --> 01:16:32,960
Speaker 1: you guys did in this conversation has been really awesome too. Yeah. Well, Pete,

1288
01:16:33,040 --> 01:16:35,640
Speaker 1: we have to say thank you to you also for

1289
01:16:35,760 --> 01:16:39,679
Speaker 1: bringing a soul back together. I mean this has led

1290
01:16:39,760 --> 01:16:43,799
Speaker 1: me to appreciate this whole experience on a whole other level.

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01:16:44,040 --> 01:16:50,080
Speaker 1: I mean getting to know people again. Yeah, thank yeah, well,

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01:16:50,120 --> 01:16:57,760
Speaker 1: thank you Pete. We also have a message UM that

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01:16:57,920 --> 01:17:02,280
Speaker 1: was recorded from Brian Austin green Um talking about Joey,

1294
01:17:02,400 --> 01:17:05,479
Speaker 1: So we want to go to that now. Joey was

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01:17:05,560 --> 01:17:11,760
Speaker 1: around the entire time. He was He was one of

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01:17:11,840 --> 01:17:14,439
Speaker 1: the main voices on the show. I mean, he was

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01:17:14,560 --> 01:17:20,800
Speaker 1: the He was definitely um a heart and soul and

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01:17:21,400 --> 01:17:24,559
Speaker 1: what it is we did, and and fans really looked

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01:17:24,600 --> 01:17:27,920
Speaker 1: forward to seeing him and seeing seeing the moments that

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01:17:28,040 --> 01:17:31,000
Speaker 1: he was in, and he brought so much light to

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01:17:31,280 --> 01:17:34,719
Speaker 1: to what we did. UM. Our show was a teenage

1302
01:17:34,840 --> 01:17:39,760
Speaker 1: drama and and and the character of Nat wasn't necessarily

1303
01:17:40,000 --> 01:17:43,400
Speaker 1: a part of that drama. He was He was the

1304
01:17:43,840 --> 01:17:46,719
Speaker 1: the joy and the escape I think for people watching

1305
01:17:46,760 --> 01:17:50,960
Speaker 1: the show, UM, just because they had that chance to

1306
01:17:51,040 --> 01:17:53,320
Speaker 1: then get away and sort of laugh with him and

1307
01:17:53,439 --> 01:17:56,040
Speaker 1: smile with him. He had such a great energy to him,

1308
01:17:56,840 --> 01:18:02,680
Speaker 1: and he readiated so much love and enjoy that you

1309
01:18:02,800 --> 01:18:05,360
Speaker 1: couldn't help but smile when you saw him or you

1310
01:18:05,400 --> 01:18:08,639
Speaker 1: were around him. Personally, he was. He was an amazing man.

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01:18:08,920 --> 01:18:12,560
Speaker 1: He really was. Uh. Denise Dows same thing. She she

1312
01:18:12,800 --> 01:18:17,640
Speaker 1: was fantastic. Um. She was so professional when she got

1313
01:18:17,680 --> 01:18:21,880
Speaker 1: to set. She was so kind, she was so generous. UM.

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01:18:22,120 --> 01:18:26,200
Speaker 1: And then Jessica, I mean, she's what a force she

1315
01:18:26,479 --> 01:18:29,880
Speaker 1: was in She was in every episode just writing her

1316
01:18:30,040 --> 01:18:32,960
Speaker 1: heart out. And she was so good at listening to

1317
01:18:34,720 --> 01:18:37,080
Speaker 1: all the actors that were there and whatever notes they

1318
01:18:37,120 --> 01:18:40,800
Speaker 1: had and whatever thoughts they had and incorporating them, um

1319
01:18:41,560 --> 01:18:48,000
Speaker 1: without letting us uh mess it up, you know, which

1320
01:18:48,320 --> 01:18:50,040
Speaker 1: which is an easy that's an easy thing to do.

1321
01:18:50,200 --> 01:18:51,760
Speaker 1: I mean you get a bunch of kids in there

1322
01:18:51,840 --> 01:18:54,720
Speaker 1: who all of a sudden think they're awesome, and then

1323
01:18:54,840 --> 01:18:56,559
Speaker 1: you know, they're like, oh, I can write a script,

1324
01:18:56,600 --> 01:19:01,680
Speaker 1: and it's like you can't. Yeah, it's definitely not that easy. Um.

1325
01:19:02,080 --> 01:19:04,960
Speaker 1: Joey was. Joey was one of those guys though that

1326
01:19:05,200 --> 01:19:08,040
Speaker 1: no matter what was going on in his life, he

1327
01:19:08,160 --> 01:19:13,800
Speaker 1: would he would share it openly. But he was very optimistic.

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01:19:14,320 --> 01:19:19,400
Speaker 1: He Um. He never ever brought things to set with

1329
01:19:19,520 --> 01:19:23,760
Speaker 1: a sense of woe is me? What am I gonna do? Um?

1330
01:19:24,040 --> 01:19:26,600
Speaker 1: You know I need fifteen to step off set and

1331
01:19:26,720 --> 01:19:29,360
Speaker 1: go do like he just he would just sort of

1332
01:19:29,560 --> 01:19:33,760
Speaker 1: rise above everything and uh and smile through it all.

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01:19:34,000 --> 01:19:37,400
Speaker 1: And he was really positive in the way that he

1334
01:19:37,640 --> 01:19:42,559
Speaker 1: dealt with life, and then for us as a as

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01:19:42,600 --> 01:19:44,599
Speaker 1: a young cast, I think it was just so helpful

1336
01:19:44,720 --> 01:19:49,439
Speaker 1: having someone as seasoned as he was and as kind

1337
01:19:49,560 --> 01:19:52,880
Speaker 1: and as thoughtful as he was, uh, that that we

1338
01:19:53,000 --> 01:19:55,920
Speaker 1: saw every single week. I mean we were we were

1339
01:19:55,960 --> 01:19:59,240
Speaker 1: in the peach pit almost every episode of of you know,

1340
01:19:59,520 --> 01:20:03,400
Speaker 1: ten years of the show. He um. So, I I

1341
01:20:03,520 --> 01:20:05,960
Speaker 1: had no idea who he was. I had no idea

1342
01:20:06,040 --> 01:20:09,120
Speaker 1: who Aaron Spelling was. I was like, I was young.

1343
01:20:09,240 --> 01:20:11,760
Speaker 1: I was really outside of the world of television at

1344
01:20:11,800 --> 01:20:14,479
Speaker 1: that point, you know, I was. I just didn't I

1345
01:20:14,800 --> 01:20:17,360
Speaker 1: didn't know all the ins and outs and the connections

1346
01:20:17,400 --> 01:20:20,720
Speaker 1: and all the people that had done it. Um, Joey was.

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01:20:21,240 --> 01:20:25,560
Speaker 1: Joey was honestly, amazingly kind from the very beginning. He

1348
01:20:25,760 --> 01:20:30,120
Speaker 1: was never anything but loving and sweet. He never uh,

1349
01:20:31,160 --> 01:20:33,080
Speaker 1: he never had a sense of like, you know, hey kid,

1350
01:20:33,160 --> 01:20:34,479
Speaker 1: let me show you how to do this. You know.

1351
01:20:34,600 --> 01:20:38,960
Speaker 1: He he always spoke, which I really appreciated. He really

1352
01:20:39,080 --> 01:20:43,880
Speaker 1: spoke from a place of this is what I've experienced, um,

1353
01:20:45,160 --> 01:20:47,840
Speaker 1: but it may not be what you experienced. So you know,

1354
01:20:48,080 --> 01:20:49,840
Speaker 1: it's you've got to make your own choices, and you

1355
01:20:50,000 --> 01:20:51,439
Speaker 1: you have to love your own life and you have

1356
01:20:51,600 --> 01:20:54,280
Speaker 1: to find your own way through it. I can. He

1357
01:20:54,360 --> 01:20:56,599
Speaker 1: would help whenever he could. He would sort of take

1358
01:20:56,640 --> 01:20:58,320
Speaker 1: your hand and guide you through it a little bit.

1359
01:20:59,160 --> 01:21:03,240
Speaker 1: But he was never, um, he was never BOSSI He

1360
01:21:03,400 --> 01:21:05,599
Speaker 1: was never never that guy that was like, I've done

1361
01:21:05,640 --> 01:21:07,479
Speaker 1: all this and you know my way is the right

1362
01:21:07,560 --> 01:21:10,439
Speaker 1: way now, because I've lived at all. And he lived.

1363
01:21:10,680 --> 01:21:14,040
Speaker 1: He had lived a long life at that point. I

1364
01:21:14,080 --> 01:21:16,560
Speaker 1: mean he was when we started, he had done a

1365
01:21:16,680 --> 01:21:18,479
Speaker 1: lot of stuff. He had been in the business for

1366
01:21:18,560 --> 01:21:21,920
Speaker 1: a while. He had worked with a lot of people. Um.

1367
01:21:22,160 --> 01:21:24,880
Speaker 1: I mean if for fans of his, if they go

1368
01:21:25,040 --> 01:21:27,320
Speaker 1: back through his body of work and go back through

1369
01:21:27,400 --> 01:21:32,920
Speaker 1: his IMDb page, it's literally it's like he's it's a

1370
01:21:33,040 --> 01:21:36,000
Speaker 1: who's who of people that you've ever heard of, and

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01:21:36,400 --> 01:21:38,720
Speaker 1: Joey has worked with all of them, I mean just

1372
01:21:39,080 --> 01:21:43,719
Speaker 1: every single person. Um. But he was amazing. He made

1373
01:21:44,920 --> 01:21:48,720
Speaker 1: He just brought so much life to what to what

1374
01:21:48,840 --> 01:21:53,200
Speaker 1: he was given. It wasn't he wasn't necessarily written the

1375
01:21:53,880 --> 01:21:56,360
Speaker 1: best stuff. I mean he was you know, he was

1376
01:21:56,960 --> 01:21:59,600
Speaker 1: the guy that owned the peach pitt And so we

1377
01:21:59,680 --> 01:22:02,280
Speaker 1: would in sometimes and he had very repetitive you know,

1378
01:22:02,720 --> 01:22:04,960
Speaker 1: Mega Burger to Mega Burgers. But you know it's like

1379
01:22:05,080 --> 01:22:07,400
Speaker 1: it was sort of yeah, it was started the same stuff.

1380
01:22:07,479 --> 01:22:09,479
Speaker 1: We're going vanilla today, are we going? We think it

1381
01:22:09,520 --> 01:22:15,760
Speaker 1: with Strawberry um uh, the Peach Prize fresh um. So uh.

1382
01:22:16,200 --> 01:22:17,680
Speaker 1: You know, he didn't have a lot to work with

1383
01:22:17,800 --> 01:22:22,040
Speaker 1: sometimes and he uh and it never showed. He never

1384
01:22:23,160 --> 01:22:25,760
Speaker 1: he never complained about it. He never was on set

1385
01:22:25,880 --> 01:22:27,800
Speaker 1: going I can't believe what I'm saying this again. He

1386
01:22:27,960 --> 01:22:31,800
Speaker 1: just every single take, every single run, was just the

1387
01:22:31,920 --> 01:22:38,719
Speaker 1: consummate professional um. And he was just a great guide

1388
01:22:38,840 --> 01:22:42,200
Speaker 1: for I felt for a young actor like myself to

1389
01:22:42,640 --> 01:22:46,120
Speaker 1: um to aspire to be on some moveel. I mean

1390
01:22:46,200 --> 01:22:49,720
Speaker 1: he really he really set the tone for me of

1391
01:22:50,560 --> 01:22:54,320
Speaker 1: he and and Luke really set the tone for me

1392
01:22:54,760 --> 01:22:58,720
Speaker 1: of the type of person, the type of life that

1393
01:22:58,840 --> 01:23:02,120
Speaker 1: I wanted to live in, the type of person that

1394
01:23:02,200 --> 01:23:04,040
Speaker 1: I wanted to be no matter what was going on

1395
01:23:04,479 --> 01:23:09,280
Speaker 1: in life. And he was. He was an amazing man.

1396
01:23:10,120 --> 01:23:13,280
Speaker 1: It's so interesting to see how we all have the

1397
01:23:13,400 --> 01:23:16,960
Speaker 1: same perspective. We all had our own separate experiences with

1398
01:23:17,120 --> 01:23:20,400
Speaker 1: Joey and with Jessica, and with Denise and with Luke,

1399
01:23:20,680 --> 01:23:23,600
Speaker 1: but we but everybody's stories are somehow we've together the

1400
01:23:23,680 --> 01:23:26,439
Speaker 1: same and that's how you know that you're dealing with

1401
01:23:26,560 --> 01:23:31,360
Speaker 1: just a really genuine, authentic person Um and we're all

1402
01:23:31,479 --> 01:23:35,840
Speaker 1: so blessed to know him and work with him. And

1403
01:23:36,160 --> 01:23:38,240
Speaker 1: it's just been an honor getting together with all of

1404
01:23:38,320 --> 01:23:40,559
Speaker 1: you and talking about him today. It makes it feel

1405
01:23:40,640 --> 01:23:45,320
Speaker 1: better somehow to get to share our stories and remember

1406
01:23:45,360 --> 01:23:49,439
Speaker 1: together and his memory and his memory goes on through

1407
01:23:49,479 --> 01:23:54,040
Speaker 1: our stories and our shared experiences, and that when people

1408
01:23:54,080 --> 01:23:58,200
Speaker 1: a past, that keeps them alive, right because we'll always

1409
01:23:58,240 --> 01:24:00,720
Speaker 1: talk about what they meant to us and be able

1410
01:24:00,760 --> 01:24:03,200
Speaker 1: to rehash things and they're just it's just like they're

1411
01:24:03,280 --> 01:24:07,360
Speaker 1: right there with you again. Yeah, thank you guys, Thank

1412
01:24:07,439 --> 01:24:15,840
Speaker 1: you so much for all it. Love you guys, so

1413
01:24:16,000 --> 01:24:23,760
Speaker 1: good to Hi. Hi everybody, Hi, see you soon, do

1414
01:24:23,880 --> 01:24:28,080
Speaker 1: you soon? We needed that, we had to be with

1415
01:24:28,200 --> 01:24:31,920
Speaker 1: everyone that was that helped in a You and I

1416
01:24:32,000 --> 01:24:35,519
Speaker 1: have been talking through the loss of everyone and especially

1417
01:24:35,600 --> 01:24:40,120
Speaker 1: Joey Joey's passing most recently, but it's so nice to

1418
01:24:40,200 --> 01:24:42,880
Speaker 1: be able to have that our family or nine to

1419
01:24:42,960 --> 01:24:47,000
Speaker 1: a family together and to see them for everyone listening.

1420
01:24:47,040 --> 01:24:49,760
Speaker 1: We got to see them here on Zoom and UM

1421
01:24:50,600 --> 01:24:52,439
Speaker 1: and hear all the stories and be able to connect,

1422
01:24:52,520 --> 01:24:54,960
Speaker 1: like you know, put all of that together. It was

1423
01:24:55,000 --> 01:24:58,120
Speaker 1: really special. Yeah, thank you for everybody for making it

1424
01:24:58,240 --> 01:25:01,599
Speaker 1: happen for us and for all the fans and everybody

1425
01:25:01,720 --> 01:25:04,519
Speaker 1: that's listening. We um, we love doing it for you.

1426
01:25:04,720 --> 01:25:08,240
Speaker 1: So UM, I'm glad we all came together. And again

1427
01:25:08,360 --> 01:25:12,800
Speaker 1: this podcast of everyone coming together, we are donating and

1428
01:25:12,920 --> 01:25:18,200
Speaker 1: Joey's name to the Alzheimer's Association. UM, so please go

1429
01:25:18,400 --> 01:25:22,160
Speaker 1: ahead and donate there as well, UM, and Joey's name,

1430
01:25:22,240 --> 01:25:25,479
Speaker 1: and and anyone that you know or have loved that

1431
01:25:25,640 --> 01:25:29,519
Speaker 1: you lost that was suffering with that disease. We encourage you.

1432
01:25:30,120 --> 01:25:32,560
Speaker 1: Thanks guys, we love you, Thank you, and I love you.

1433
01:25:32,680 --> 01:25:34,000
Speaker 1: Jenny Garth, I love you too,