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Speaker 1: Welcome to Creature feature production of I Heart Radio. I'm

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Speaker 1: your host of Many Parasites, Katie Golden. I studied psychology

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Speaker 1: and evolutionary biology, and today on the show Real Life Pokemons,

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Speaker 1: we're visiting the world of pocket Monsters again and showing

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Speaker 1: how real life animals can be even more incredible than

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Speaker 1: a boring old Pikachu. We're talking about the real life

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Speaker 1: animal inspiration for Pokemon, as well as animals that should

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Speaker 1: be in the next generation of Pokemon. Discover this and

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Speaker 1: more as we answer the angel question who's got the

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Speaker 1: most boobable Snoop joining me today is the co host

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Speaker 1: of Just the Zoo of Us, an amazing animal podcast

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Speaker 1: that rates and reviews animals, just like you should rate

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Speaker 1: and review our podcasts. I'm so excited for this animal

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Speaker 1: podcast crossover event. Welcome Ellen Weather for welcome. Thanks Katie, Hi,

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Speaker 1: it's so good to be here. I'm so excited. It's

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Speaker 1: about time we joined animal forces to bring to the world.

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Speaker 1: Are both our animal knowledge and Pokemon knowledge, which I

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Speaker 1: have to admit I'm not the biggest Pokemon expert. Well,

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't call myself an expert, but I have played

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Speaker 1: all the generations and I think that counts for something.

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Speaker 1: I think that makes you an expert as as as

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Speaker 1: far as I can see, because for me, I don't

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Speaker 1: know if I can tell a Pikachu from you know,

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Speaker 1: from a Jigglie Puff Gigglie Puff from a from a ratitat.

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Speaker 1: You know. So you've got three Pokemon names right then,

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Speaker 1: so like you're already pulling ahead of something. Is one

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Speaker 1: of them that that was a great try. Yeah. I

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Speaker 1: started playing um when I was five years old, when

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Speaker 1: my mom got me for Christmas a purple transparent game

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Speaker 1: Boy color and Pokemon Gold version UM, so I started,

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Speaker 1: which was the second generation of Pokemon games. So I

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Speaker 1: started there and I've played every generation ever since. So

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Speaker 1: we we go way back me and put on. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: when I was a kid, I got bootleg versions of

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Speaker 1: video games on floppy disks that I played on our

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Speaker 1: personal computer. And one of them was sort of like

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Speaker 1: kind of a Pokemon clone but you raised like slug monsters,

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Speaker 1: so you know, that's yeah exactly, So that's my kind

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Speaker 1: of background. But no, I do. I do love Pokemon.

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Speaker 1: I played the the Pokemon Pokemon Go for a little bit, uh,

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Speaker 1: and then you know, when that was a thing, and

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Speaker 1: people were walking into traffic to get those Pokemon. And

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Speaker 1: you know, I love the little guys. They're adorable, and

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Speaker 1: but the biggest thing that I love about them is

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Speaker 1: that a lot of them seem to be based on

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Speaker 1: really whimsical versions of real life animals and all the

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Speaker 1: fun kind of I feel like it trains kids to

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Speaker 1: think in terms of a biologist right there, like sort

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Speaker 1: of this, uh, there's like a phylogeny that you have

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Speaker 1: different clades of Pokemon, water types, bug types, you have

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Speaker 1: these abilities, and you have their their behaviors, and so

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Speaker 1: I love that about the whole Pokemon universe. Yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: interesting because you know, kind of the origin story of

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Speaker 1: Pokemon was that the creator of Pokemon, I believe it

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Speaker 1: was to Toshi Ta Jerry Um created Pokemon out of

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Speaker 1: a childhood spent collecting bugs outside, like just outside and nature,

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Speaker 1: collecting bugs, and he was just so inspired by his

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Speaker 1: that with this like very imaginative world building and developed

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Speaker 1: you know, entomology and naturalism and biology. So you can

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Speaker 1: see so much of that play out in the world

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Speaker 1: of Pokemon like some of them. Actually, there's actually like

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Speaker 1: ecology plays into it, like in some of my notes,

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Speaker 1: like some of the aspects of the actual real life

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Speaker 1: I can't tell you how many people I've talked to

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Speaker 1: It I think that it turns on that part of

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Speaker 1: the brain that's like, oh man, I just love you.

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Speaker 1: Know you've got a cat jamal, you gotta classify them.

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Speaker 1: I'll discover everything. Of course, real life biologists are not

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Speaker 1: I am not a pocologist, so I don't know all

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Speaker 1: next generation of Pokemon. And then Ellen is going to

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Speaker 1: tell me about a Pokemon that has a real life

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Speaker 1: This is gonna be great. So I want to start

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Speaker 1: off with one of my favorite animals because it is

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Speaker 1: just the goofy ist doofy ist, weirdest, ugliest, and cutest

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Speaker 1: But yeah, so these are found in the Amazon Basin.

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Speaker 1: this turtle. So this is the Mada Mata turtle. I

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Speaker 1: my best to describe it, but I highly suggest you

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Speaker 1: look up motto moto turtle. It'll also be in the

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Speaker 1: fills me up with warm feelings. They have contagious bliss. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's like a super weird looking animal and it's kind

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Speaker 1: just makes me happy. So all right, I'm gonna take

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Speaker 1: But yes, so you flatten it. You've turned this turtle

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Speaker 1: The door the mouth is the gaping doorway into the heart.

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Speaker 1: So it's a very wide mouth. It has a big

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Speaker 1: cartoonishly goofy, wide smile, like it's thinking about a joke

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Speaker 1: motomatic turtle like looking at a picture of it. Did

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Speaker 1: two thousands, Yeah, remember that Carl from Jimmy Neutron. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: from the motomatic Turtle. Carl Weezer from Jimmy Neutron. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I remember Carl Weezer and his obsession with Lama's That

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Speaker 1: so the whisker of a catfish, but rather than being

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Speaker 1: It's kind of big. Yeah. Yeah, it is solidly. Its

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Speaker 1: suddenly snaps its mouth open really wide, which creates this

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Speaker 1: then snaps its mouth closed, swallows the fish whole, and

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Speaker 1: then resumes having that little smile on its face. Very uh,

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Speaker 1: it to chew. It in fact, just swallows things whole

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Speaker 1: instead like a shark, but it's way cuter. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I think sharks are cute, but this, Yeah, sharks don't

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Speaker 1: they've got a dad joke just sort of waiting in

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Speaker 1: the ways. Well, I think of the whale shark. Yeah, okay,

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Speaker 1: that's goofy smile. Yes, whale sharks do have a goofy,

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Speaker 1: so it's it's not these aren't just like decorative. They

423
00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:12,080
Speaker 1: actually how is the eyeball and so they're looking in

424
00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:17,320
Speaker 1: one direction and then an entirely different direction. Yeah, So

425
00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:20,000
Speaker 1: with their eyes being like at the ends of those lobes,

426
00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:22,800
Speaker 1: they can see in three hundred and sixty degrees all

427
00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:25,280
Speaker 1: around them. They can see in three hundred and sixty

428
00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:28,080
Speaker 1: degrees all around them. But they also have this really

429
00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:32,080
Speaker 1: really big overlap between what their left eye and their

430
00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:36,359
Speaker 1: right eye can see. So there's like this very large

431
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:40,040
Speaker 1: point in the middle of their vision where it's called

432
00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:43,760
Speaker 1: I think it's called binocular overlap. So in the wing

433
00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:46,360
Speaker 1: head shark, like I mentioned that has this really exaggerated

434
00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:50,000
Speaker 1: stephalo foil, they have up to forty eight degrees of

435
00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:53,400
Speaker 1: overlap between their left and right eye. So what that's

436
00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:56,159
Speaker 1: really really good for is depth perception. So like you know,

437
00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:58,720
Speaker 1: how like if you cover one eye and then you

438
00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:01,760
Speaker 1: cover the other, I what you can see kind of

439
00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:04,480
Speaker 1: changes a little bit because of the angle, and that's

440
00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:08,280
Speaker 1: what lets you perceive depth. Um So for hammerhead sharks,

441
00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:12,359
Speaker 1: they have really dramatic depth perception. They're really good at

442
00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:15,440
Speaker 1: seeing how far away things are, so it's really good

443
00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:18,280
Speaker 1: for their eyesight. Another thing the cephalofoil helps them with

444
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:21,439
Speaker 1: is that that whole thing, like you mentioned, is lined

445
00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:25,960
Speaker 1: with electro receptors, So the edge of their cephalo foil

446
00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:29,200
Speaker 1: is lined with these sensory cells that can detect magnetic fields.

447
00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:31,560
Speaker 1: A lot of sharks, a lot of fish really in general,

448
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:35,880
Speaker 1: have electro receptors. And what's is what it's really good

449
00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:38,640
Speaker 1: for for hammer heads is that it makes them really

450
00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:42,240
Speaker 1: sensitive to the movements of prey that might be hiding

451
00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:45,200
Speaker 1: under the sand. So a lot of the prey that

452
00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:49,320
Speaker 1: they're looking for is things like stingrays, or flat fish

453
00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:51,440
Speaker 1: or all sorts of little fit like goose fish and

454
00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:54,040
Speaker 1: stuff like that that might be burrowed under the sands.

455
00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:56,600
Speaker 1: So if you're swimming over them looking for them only

456
00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:59,040
Speaker 1: using your eyes, you're not gonna see them and you're

457
00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:03,400
Speaker 1: gonna miss them. But the hammer head shark can detect

458
00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:07,520
Speaker 1: their movements. It can even sense things like heartbeats. Right, Like,

459
00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:11,120
Speaker 1: you can't hide that because your heart, your heart sends

460
00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:15,640
Speaker 1: out an electrical uh polse every time it beats, like

461
00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:20,000
Speaker 1: this electrical rhythm of of your of the chambers of

462
00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:24,560
Speaker 1: your heart. That's why when the heart is out of rhythm, uh,

463
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:27,280
Speaker 1: you use sort of a little bit of electricity to

464
00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:29,800
Speaker 1: get it back and rhythm with with you know, the

465
00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:34,480
Speaker 1: shock paddles with a with a de fabular order. Yeah,

466
00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:37,800
Speaker 1: so the you can't disguise that, right, You can't like

467
00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:40,320
Speaker 1: make your heart stop beating. So the hammer head can

468
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:44,480
Speaker 1: can detect even totally hidden prey. And then once it

469
00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:47,520
Speaker 1: does detect that prey, it can use the cephalo foil

470
00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:51,080
Speaker 1: as a weapon, so it can actually pin prey down

471
00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:53,760
Speaker 1: to the sand and immobilize it so that it can

472
00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:56,840
Speaker 1: eat it. Or if it's hunting something like a stingray

473
00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:59,520
Speaker 1: or a flat fish that's like down flat against the

474
00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:03,200
Speaker 1: botto them, they can wedge the cefal foil underneath the

475
00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:05,680
Speaker 1: prey and flip it over like that's like a big

476
00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:09,320
Speaker 1: it's like a spatelaae it is. They use it like

477
00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:13,080
Speaker 1: a big spatchelor to flip This be called spatchelor head.

478
00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:15,479
Speaker 1: Sharks instead of hammer heads because they don't use them

479
00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:18,880
Speaker 1: as a hammer, they use it as a spachelor. Yeah,

480
00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:21,480
Speaker 1: I mean I I also have never really seen a

481
00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:24,760
Speaker 1: hammer shaped like that, you know, like the hammers I've

482
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:27,760
Speaker 1: used have only ever had like, you know, a blunt

483
00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:29,800
Speaker 1: end and then kind of like a curved end and

484
00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:31,560
Speaker 1: it doesn't really look like a hamper. But oh well,

485
00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:34,720
Speaker 1: I didn't call him that, So that's maybe an old

486
00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:37,640
Speaker 1: timey hammer. Maybe an old timey hammer that it didn't

487
00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:40,880
Speaker 1: have that curved back bit bit where you like pull

488
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:43,200
Speaker 1: out the nails, but just like the two hammers on

489
00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:48,640
Speaker 1: each end, like a ball peen hammer that's been flattened out.

490
00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:53,520
Speaker 1: I don't really know, I'm not I was about to say, like,

491
00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:55,760
Speaker 1: I'm the wrong person to be talking to about what

492
00:30:55,800 --> 00:31:00,840
Speaker 1: tools look like. I'm not handy. I'm sorry, I'm handed,

493
00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:03,520
Speaker 1: but I just don't bother learning the names of anything.

494
00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:06,040
Speaker 1: I'm like, just give me the small one and then

495
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:09,959
Speaker 1: the twisty one and the U shape attorney bit. Yeah, exactly,

496
00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:14,400
Speaker 1: I feel it. Um So, yeah, I think the cephal

497
00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:17,400
Speaker 1: foil is a really interesting thing to be including on

498
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:19,920
Speaker 1: on guard chump. It's identifiable you look at it, you know,

499
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:23,040
Speaker 1: exactly what it is, and also on Guard on Guard Chump,

500
00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:25,720
Speaker 1: they made the lobes kind of look almost like jet engines,

501
00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:29,440
Speaker 1: which is really cool. It's like incorporating some like jetplane

502
00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:32,760
Speaker 1: elements into the design. Now, I do notice that it's

503
00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:36,920
Speaker 1: it's eyes are not on the cephalo foil, though they

504
00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:40,160
Speaker 1: are sort of you know, I think they were doing

505
00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:42,480
Speaker 1: that to make it look more like a cool dragon.

506
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:45,720
Speaker 1: I imagine if they put the eyes on the cephalo foil,

507
00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:48,000
Speaker 1: they probably tried it, because I know a lot of

508
00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:50,440
Speaker 1: times like Pokemon, go through a few drafts of the

509
00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:53,800
Speaker 1: design before they reach what what you see in the game.

510
00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:57,080
Speaker 1: So if I had to guess, they probably tried it. Like,

511
00:31:57,120 --> 00:32:00,480
Speaker 1: there are probably some old like deleted draft of Guard

512
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:03,760
Speaker 1: Chomp with the eyes like on the sides, um, and

513
00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:06,360
Speaker 1: it probably looked pretty goofy and they decided not to

514
00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:10,200
Speaker 1: do that. I think it's probably also an early draft

515
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:13,040
Speaker 1: of Guard Chomp where it's just like Garfield as a

516
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:19,160
Speaker 1: dragon chomping on. Definitely, for sure, it's primarily praise on

517
00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:24,120
Speaker 1: Lasagna right. Um. So aside from the cephalof oil, you know,

518
00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:26,480
Speaker 1: it has some other shark elements. It's got that like

519
00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:30,760
Speaker 1: identifiable that vertically aligned fin um. It has the dorsal

520
00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:33,120
Speaker 1: fin and the pectoral fins. Let you really know, it's

521
00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:35,400
Speaker 1: supposed to be based on a shark um, but it

522
00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 1: has something on its design that I think is a

523
00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:43,320
Speaker 1: nod to the shark inspiration in a really interesting way.

524
00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:46,440
Speaker 1: So you see how it has all these little white

525
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:49,520
Speaker 1: spikes all over its body, on its arms and legs,

526
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:52,160
Speaker 1: it has these white spikes. So those white spikes look

527
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:55,520
Speaker 1: exactly like its teeth, like it looks like you copied

528
00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:58,000
Speaker 1: and pasted the teeth from its mouth onto its body.

529
00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:02,520
Speaker 1: I think that that is a reference to shark's skin,

530
00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:08,520
Speaker 1: which is covered in tiny scales called thermal denticles. Yes, denticals.

531
00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:13,640
Speaker 1: Have you talked about these? It not tentacles with a T. Denticles, Yes,

532
00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:18,280
Speaker 1: denticals like a dentist. Yes, the tiny the tiny skin

533
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:22,400
Speaker 1: teeth that we know and love. Yes, skin teeth. So

534
00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:24,280
Speaker 1: if you if you're not already familiar with what skin

535
00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:27,600
Speaker 1: teeth are, if you're a more recent listener, um, these

536
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:31,040
Speaker 1: are these skin teeth are really built just like the

537
00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:33,480
Speaker 1: teeth inside of the shark's mouth. They have an inner

538
00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:36,520
Speaker 1: layer of pulp and nerves, and then an outer layer

539
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:40,200
Speaker 1: made of dentine um. They're just much smaller and they

540
00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:44,120
Speaker 1: grow all over the body, pointing towards the tail. Um.

541
00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:47,160
Speaker 1: This gives sharks a really distinct texture. I should also

542
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:50,920
Speaker 1: say this is not specific to the hammerhead sharks built

543
00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:55,760
Speaker 1: like um, so it gives sharks a really distinct texture.

544
00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:59,200
Speaker 1: Have you ever touched a shark before. I haven't. I've

545
00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:01,600
Speaker 1: touched a ray before, and I think they have a

546
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:05,880
Speaker 1: similar dentical situation, but it's like it's rough. So on

547
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:10,040
Speaker 1: a shark, if you start with the head and move

548
00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:13,480
Speaker 1: your hand towards their tail, it feels really smooth, like

549
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:16,080
Speaker 1: a like a ray or like a dolphin or something

550
00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:18,920
Speaker 1: like that. But if you start with a tail and

551
00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:22,920
Speaker 1: you move your hand towards the head, it feels sand papery.

552
00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:26,759
Speaker 1: It feels really rough. So the texture changes based on

553
00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:30,600
Speaker 1: what direction you're feeling. And that's because those denticles are

554
00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:34,120
Speaker 1: all pointing towards the tail. So this helps them by

555
00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:36,680
Speaker 1: reducing their drag in the water, and it helps them

556
00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:41,920
Speaker 1: swim faster. It's really good for aerodynamic, uh, hydrodynamic, I

557
00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:44,640
Speaker 1: should say, like swimming. And I know that I was

558
00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:48,200
Speaker 1: talking to some shark scientists and they mentioned that this

559
00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:54,160
Speaker 1: shark skin like scale sort of thing has been used

560
00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:59,680
Speaker 1: in the development of wet suits for athletic swimmers. Um

561
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:04,320
Speaker 1: that they've like used this like sort of scaly design

562
00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:07,160
Speaker 1: to reduce drag for Olympic swimmers, which I think is

563
00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:09,880
Speaker 1: just so cool. Yeah, yeah, No, I like it when

564
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:13,560
Speaker 1: we borrow things from animals, Like we look at things

565
00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:17,880
Speaker 1: like geck um paths and they're like, oh, this is

566
00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:22,600
Speaker 1: this takes advantage of physics that is really hard for

567
00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:26,000
Speaker 1: us to achieve. And so then we look to these

568
00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:30,640
Speaker 1: amazing physical aspects of animals and then you know, steal

569
00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:32,840
Speaker 1: it as long as we're not skinning the sharks and

570
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:36,480
Speaker 1: wearing them as as wetsuits. Right. I don't think he

571
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:38,840
Speaker 1: would want to do that. Um. I mean they've got

572
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:40,520
Speaker 1: to figure it out, right, so might as well copy

573
00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:44,080
Speaker 1: what they're doing. Um. This also is I think why

574
00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:47,279
Speaker 1: guard Chomp is incredibly fast in the game, has a

575
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:51,480
Speaker 1: pretty high speed stat and the polkadex entries described guard

576
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:55,320
Speaker 1: Chomp as having speeds rivaling those of a jet plane.

577
00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:58,800
Speaker 1: It flies rather than swimming because it does live in

578
00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:02,160
Speaker 1: the desert, not in the ocean. Uh. And so this

579
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:04,000
Speaker 1: is this goes back to something I said earlier. The

580
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:09,560
Speaker 1: dermal denticles actually factor into in game battle mechanics. So

581
00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:13,160
Speaker 1: if you are battling with or against a guard chomp,

582
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:17,760
Speaker 1: guard chomp can have a passive ability called rough skin,

583
00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:23,400
Speaker 1: and in battle this damages opponents who make physical contact

584
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:27,160
Speaker 1: with it. So if you use an attack against a

585
00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:32,440
Speaker 1: guard chomp that actually physically contacts the guard chomp, so

586
00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:35,719
Speaker 1: like tackle might be an example of one, then it

587
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:40,640
Speaker 1: that will actually do damage to you nice not all

588
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:43,640
Speaker 1: the time like they can. It's one of of more

589
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:46,600
Speaker 1: than one possible passive abilities it can have. But I

590
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:49,600
Speaker 1: just think that's a really cool nod to like actual

591
00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:54,040
Speaker 1: shark biology. That that rough skin very cool. Yeah, I

592
00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:57,680
Speaker 1: love that. I did look it up and and raise

593
00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:00,400
Speaker 1: and skates actually do have the dentical So it's the

594
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:04,200
Speaker 1: same situation. You pet them in wonder and it's really smooth,

595
00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:06,919
Speaker 1: but then you get that you go the other way

596
00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:11,080
Speaker 1: and it feels rough that you know, kind of like

597
00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:14,920
Speaker 1: a cat tongue. Yeah, that's so cool. I've like done

598
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 1: little stingray touch tanks before. Um, it's just petting them

599
00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:25,640
Speaker 1: the right way. I mean, they tell you too, you

600
00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:31,120
Speaker 1: haven't vigorously rubbed array like. No, I'm a I'm a

601
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:34,440
Speaker 1: very lawful, good sort of rule following, like you know,

602
00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:37,920
Speaker 1: doing the two finger only pet in one direction. So

603
00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:40,920
Speaker 1: I think that's probably for the best uh to do

604
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:43,600
Speaker 1: in a touch tank because those poor things are probably

605
00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:46,680
Speaker 1: stressed out enough as it is. No, I'm just trying

606
00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:48,320
Speaker 1: to give them a good time. It's okay, I'm just

607
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:52,960
Speaker 1: trying to be respectful of their space. But yeah, that's

608
00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:55,399
Speaker 1: a that's guard chomp. I mean, I think he's a guy.

609
00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:59,640
Speaker 1: He was a cool guy. Remember I remember, you know,

610
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:02,000
Speaker 1: try eating one up when I was playing Pearl version

611
00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:04,840
Speaker 1: when I was younger, and um, it took a thousand

612
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:08,080
Speaker 1: years because they are they take forever to train, but

613
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:11,200
Speaker 1: it's worth it. They're They're super strong and a great

614
00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:13,319
Speaker 1: Pokemon to have on your team if you can catch one.

615
00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:17,240
Speaker 1: And you can also use them to help stand down

616
00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:22,520
Speaker 1: um you know, woodworking projects with those denticles, so they're

617
00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:32,920
Speaker 1: functional exactly multipurpose car chum. So we've talked about the

618
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:37,200
Speaker 1: Moto Moto Turtle, who should be a Pokemon and maybe

619
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:45,920
Speaker 1: even is with the what was it turtle Tron absolutely

620
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:48,680
Speaker 1: should be the name. Yes, I mean turtle Nader is

621
00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:51,920
Speaker 1: pretty good too. Um. And then we've talked about the

622
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:58,600
Speaker 1: guard Chomp, the hammerhead shark inspired pokemon with h denticles

623
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:02,680
Speaker 1: on its skin. And now I want to nominate another

624
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:05,520
Speaker 1: animal that I think should be a Pokemon, or if

625
00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:08,160
Speaker 1: it is already a Pokemon, I want to know about it.

626
00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:13,880
Speaker 1: And this is the cus cuss of Northern Australia and

627
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:22,720
Speaker 1: New Guinea. So they cast cuss c u s c us. Wow.

628
00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:31,000
Speaker 1: So they are a marsupial uh. And as we all know,

629
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:38,160
Speaker 1: marsupials get really weird. They are strange animals. Uh. And

630
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:42,920
Speaker 1: so for the cuss cuss they all look incredible. So

631
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:46,640
Speaker 1: there are different species, um, but they all basically look

632
00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:49,840
Speaker 1: like if you took a chameleon and gave it for

633
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:59,000
Speaker 1: so yeah. Yeah. So they have this long, prehensile tail

634
00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:03,279
Speaker 1: that and they are not using it to grab tree branches.

635
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:09,040
Speaker 1: They curl it under them chameleon style. And further adding

636
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:12,560
Speaker 1: to that sort of weird reptile effect is that the

637
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:16,480
Speaker 1: bottom side of the tail does not have for it

638
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:20,399
Speaker 1: is sort of this pink rough texture. It's got these

639
00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:24,840
Speaker 1: rough bumps on it, and that scale like texture of

640
00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:28,480
Speaker 1: the underside of the tail helps it to grip branches

641
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:34,720
Speaker 1: and even food like leaves, fruit flowers, small animals, eggs,

642
00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:38,680
Speaker 1: so that it can be very opportunistic with its food

643
00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:43,960
Speaker 1: and grab things. So let's get into some more general

644
00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:49,440
Speaker 1: information about the cuscus. So it has it is ar boreal,

645
00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:54,759
Speaker 1: it is tree dwelling. Thus the importance of these chameleon

646
00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:58,440
Speaker 1: like features because when you whenever, they are traits in

647
00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:02,279
Speaker 1: one animal that are similar to traits and a completely

648
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:08,040
Speaker 1: unrelated animal, right like chameleons, reptiles, cuss cusses, and marsupial

649
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:12,320
Speaker 1: totally different evolutionary pounds, but we see these similar features,

650
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:17,839
Speaker 1: like these opposable digits. So they have these two opposable

651
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:21,919
Speaker 1: digits on their hands, just similar, very similar to those

652
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:25,400
Speaker 1: digits on a chameleon, so that they can grab tree branches.

653
00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:30,640
Speaker 1: And it has these big bulging eyes again kind of

654
00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:35,200
Speaker 1: similar to a chameleon with snake like slits that they

655
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:39,640
Speaker 1: can use to see in low light conditions and then

656
00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:45,160
Speaker 1: constrict in highlight conditions. So they're about the size of

657
00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:48,360
Speaker 1: a house cat. Some species are a little smaller, some

658
00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:52,480
Speaker 1: species are a little bigger. There are a few different species,

659
00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:57,960
Speaker 1: all having some sort of different range of coat colorations.

660
00:41:58,080 --> 00:42:02,480
Speaker 1: So the biggest is the bear cuss cuss, which is

661
00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:06,520
Speaker 1: the most intimidating looking of the cuss cusses. Uh. It

662
00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:12,479
Speaker 1: has this dark gray fur and then these like sort

663
00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:18,280
Speaker 1: of yellowish irises black peoples, and then black sclera around

664
00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:21,719
Speaker 1: the eyes that make them look kind of haunted and intimidating.

665
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:25,319
Speaker 1: But they are just herbivores, although it is true they'll

666
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:27,600
Speaker 1: sometimes grab a little animal and pop it in their

667
00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:30,719
Speaker 1: mouth just to give it a shot. Uh. So they will,

668
00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:34,359
Speaker 1: they will, uh that they're opportunistic. Is this the one

669
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:36,640
Speaker 1: that you've got a picture of here, that's like the

670
00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:40,440
Speaker 1: gray one at the end, let's see. Yeah, probably it's

671
00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:45,439
Speaker 1: the solid yes, that one that guy. Do you think

672
00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:48,640
Speaker 1: is this in your notes anywhere? Do you think that

673
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:52,960
Speaker 1: this could be the origin of the drop bear mythos?

674
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:56,000
Speaker 1: Have you heard of this? Yeah? So the drop bear

675
00:42:56,280 --> 00:43:01,839
Speaker 1: is the Australian legend of uh, some kind of terrifying

676
00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:05,560
Speaker 1: bear dropping out of the trees and maulling you. I

677
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:08,239
Speaker 1: thought the origin of that is just like that is

678
00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:15,480
Speaker 1: sort of it's like an irate koala that they I'm

679
00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:17,640
Speaker 1: looking at him like if you describe a drop bear

680
00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:20,920
Speaker 1: to me, I would imagine this dude right here. The

681
00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:24,560
Speaker 1: only problem is I'm not sure this one is in

682
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:30,480
Speaker 1: Australia or if it's just in New Guinea or in Indonesia.

683
00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:34,400
Speaker 1: So this one is actually only found in Indonesia, so

684
00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:38,640
Speaker 1: it can't be a drop bear. Okay, it's ruled out

685
00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:42,279
Speaker 1: as the possible drop bear candidate, although maybe one of

686
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:46,440
Speaker 1: them like floated over to Australia, like on a raft

687
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:52,480
Speaker 1: of coconuts or something. And then you know rogue. So

688
00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:56,440
Speaker 1: there are other species of cuscuss, all adorable and strange

689
00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:59,719
Speaker 1: in their own ways. There is the black spotted cust

690
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:02,839
Speaker 1: cut us that looks like a dalmatian with a red

691
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:06,759
Speaker 1: face and a long curly tail. And there is the

692
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:10,920
Speaker 1: common spotted cuss cuss that has these reddish brown spots

693
00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:14,920
Speaker 1: and sort of an orange face. And then there are

694
00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:17,800
Speaker 1: white cuss cusses. But the white cuss cuss is not

695
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:21,240
Speaker 1: a different species of cuss cuss from the common spotted

696
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:26,560
Speaker 1: cuss cuss. They are females, so female cuss cusses do

697
00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:31,040
Speaker 1: not have spots whereas the males do. So the females

698
00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:34,680
Speaker 1: are usually a solid color, either all white or a

699
00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:39,280
Speaker 1: creamy color or kind of grayish the females. Also, because

700
00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:42,560
Speaker 1: they are marsupials, they do have a pouch where they're

701
00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:49,000
Speaker 1: young can stay while nursing. So while they are absolutely

702
00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:53,279
Speaker 1: adorable looking, they are very pugnacious. They're not they are

703
00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:57,080
Speaker 1: ready ready to get into a pokemon fight. So males

704
00:44:57,320 --> 00:45:00,759
Speaker 1: often fight with each other for terror tory, and they

705
00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:05,120
Speaker 1: are solitary animals. They're ready to throw down at a

706
00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:09,880
Speaker 1: moment's notice. They are ready to exactly. Yeah. Yeah, So

707
00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:15,720
Speaker 1: they're one of the most bizarre looking marsupials, most bizarre

708
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:19,399
Speaker 1: looking mammals in my opinion. It it really does look

709
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:24,560
Speaker 1: to me like someone crossed a chameleon with a mammal

710
00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:27,919
Speaker 1: and then you came up with this animal and it's

711
00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:34,120
Speaker 1: it's but it is absolutely adorable in a very weird way. Yeah.

712
00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:37,160
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think of like other mammals that have

713
00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:40,040
Speaker 1: that like prehensile tail, and all I'm coming up with

714
00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:47,240
Speaker 1: are like certain types of monkeys do possums do? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah, Okay,

715
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:49,080
Speaker 1: I can you know what now that you say that,

716
00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:54,319
Speaker 1: I am seeing some similarity some family resemblance this guy

717
00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:59,239
Speaker 1: and our possums. Yeah, and both opossums and possums are

718
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:05,120
Speaker 1: like the North American apossums and the Australian possums are

719
00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:09,560
Speaker 1: um marsupials. In fact, they are the only marsupial found

720
00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:14,920
Speaker 1: in uh North America. I love them so much. They're amazing,

721
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:19,960
Speaker 1: my pals. I do. Now that you say that this

722
00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:23,279
Speaker 1: guy does look like and please don't ask me about this.

723
00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:27,279
Speaker 1: This might ruffle some feathers, but I think this is

724
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:30,240
Speaker 1: a cuter opossum, Like this is cuter than the opossum.

725
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:35,319
Speaker 1: Now are we talking about the the American opossum? Are

726
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:39,480
Speaker 1: we talking about the Yeah, the Virginia opossum, as I

727
00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:42,799
Speaker 1: think it is called. It's it's not the cutest thing

728
00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:45,040
Speaker 1: in the world. I mean, I think they're cute. But

729
00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:47,120
Speaker 1: I'm looking at what you have, the picture you have

730
00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:51,640
Speaker 1: of the spotted cuscus, and I really it would have

731
00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:54,520
Speaker 1: to go to this one in the essance department. As

732
00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:59,200
Speaker 1: much as I love apossums as well as as the possums,

733
00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:02,319
Speaker 1: just p O. S. S U. M. Found in Australia

734
00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:07,239
Speaker 1: another marsupial. Yeah, I I these guys have stolen my heart,

735
00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:10,840
Speaker 1: They've stolen me away from It's just they're just so

736
00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:15,880
Speaker 1: because I love chameleons, right, and then if you're if

737
00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:18,200
Speaker 1: you were like to tell me what's the one feature

738
00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:20,400
Speaker 1: of a chameleon you don't like, and I'm like, not

739
00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:24,719
Speaker 1: fluffy enough, can't pet it, And so you add the

740
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:28,680
Speaker 1: fur to it and it's like you've done it. Now. Unfortunately,

741
00:47:28,920 --> 00:47:32,480
Speaker 1: the cuss cuss cannot move its eyes independently like a

742
00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:36,959
Speaker 1: chameleon can, so that would be by one improvement would

743
00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:41,800
Speaker 1: be to have those independently moving, cool telescoping eyes. But no,

744
00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:44,480
Speaker 1: it doesn't have that, but yeah, it is. It is

745
00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:49,560
Speaker 1: absolutely adorable and strange and functional like this tail it

746
00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:53,360
Speaker 1: can use to climb, can use to grab things, and

747
00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:56,560
Speaker 1: same with its little hands. It's a little weirdly almost,

748
00:47:56,760 --> 00:48:01,200
Speaker 1: you know, too close to being humanlike. And it's not

749
00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:04,239
Speaker 1: a primate, which is always throws me for a loop

750
00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:07,279
Speaker 1: when they have the little graspy hands like with with

751
00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:10,960
Speaker 1: with a possums or with raccoons. It's like, you're not

752
00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:13,160
Speaker 1: a primate. What are you doing with your little hands,

753
00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:17,120
Speaker 1: your little functional hands, Like, what are you even do?

754
00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:19,080
Speaker 1: What do you even? You're not doing homework with that

755
00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:26,440
Speaker 1: right holding pencils? Yeah, you're not texting. You cannot tweet

756
00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:29,120
Speaker 1: with those thumbs. That would be if I saw one

757
00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:31,400
Speaker 1: of these things, like a little tiny cell phone tweeting,

758
00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:35,799
Speaker 1: like just angrily tweeting the show like well, actually, yes,

759
00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:40,919
Speaker 1: in fact, I do I have a TikTok too. Yeah,

760
00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:44,640
Speaker 1: oh I bet they would too. Yeah, you were mentioning

761
00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:47,640
Speaker 1: their hands and their hands actually do look like chameleon

762
00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:50,280
Speaker 1: hands to how they have that kind of like split

763
00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:55,239
Speaker 1: between the fists. Yes, that's just like a million hands. Yeah, yes,

764
00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:59,040
Speaker 1: that's like kind of I mean I wouldn't go as

765
00:48:59,120 --> 00:49:01,840
Speaker 1: far as to say it's like parallel evolution. They're not

766
00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:05,720
Speaker 1: close enough for that, but it they have these features

767
00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:10,319
Speaker 1: that are definitely very similar. Yeah, I mean it makes sense, right,

768
00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:13,640
Speaker 1: similar conditions. They're both like living in trees, climbing branch.

769
00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:20,319
Speaker 1: These these guys do not eject their tongue and then

770
00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:23,959
Speaker 1: hit prey with it, but you know, give me a shot.

771
00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:30,000
Speaker 1: Sometimes they should hang out and like sort of brainstorm

772
00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:32,960
Speaker 1: together because you know, it seems like it seems like

773
00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:36,080
Speaker 1: a good collab to me. Oh my gosh, can you

774
00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:40,960
Speaker 1: imagine that crossover event? It's I can't, I truly can't.

775
00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:46,600
Speaker 1: It's making me go cross side. Maybe we could get

776
00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:49,160
Speaker 1: the cuss cust to get to develop a nice cask

777
00:49:49,480 --> 00:49:52,440
Speaker 1: would be the customers, Oh my god, a cask we

778
00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:57,040
Speaker 1: get we put for like the chameleon gets for the

779
00:49:57,120 --> 00:50:00,719
Speaker 1: cuss cuss gets a cast. It's this is gonna this

780
00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:04,560
Speaker 1: is gonna work. We're all eventually going to become some

781
00:50:04,719 --> 00:50:08,799
Speaker 1: amalgamation of cuss, cuss, chameleon, and crab. I think it's

782
00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:12,640
Speaker 1: the ultimate, the ultimate form. That's true. It's eventually going

783
00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:14,600
Speaker 1: to wind up as a crab anyway, So I waste

784
00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:21,319
Speaker 1: but a fluffy crab like YETI crab. Yeah, yeah, those

785
00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:25,759
Speaker 1: actually exist. I was gonna say that I don't think

786
00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:29,799
Speaker 1: that there is a cuss cuss pokemon. Um, but if

787
00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:32,520
Speaker 1: there there was, or if they made one, because I'm

788
00:50:32,560 --> 00:50:36,239
Speaker 1: just saying prime opportunity right here, Like you know, this

789
00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:39,120
Speaker 1: is definitely a great candidate for one. I was thinking

790
00:50:39,160 --> 00:50:41,520
Speaker 1: maybe it would be a yeah, it's right there, you guys.

791
00:50:41,719 --> 00:50:43,960
Speaker 1: It would make a great like grass type, I think

792
00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:46,680
Speaker 1: because it lives in the trees, so I think it

793
00:50:46,719 --> 00:50:49,759
Speaker 1: would be a really cool grass type. That's my thought.

794
00:50:50,120 --> 00:50:52,040
Speaker 1: Maybe a starter. This would be a great grass starter.

795
00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:55,000
Speaker 1: And then you could have a move called tail grab

796
00:50:55,080 --> 00:51:00,360
Speaker 1: where it grabs you with its weird bumpy tail and

797
00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:02,120
Speaker 1: then it just like picks you out a little bit.

798
00:51:02,160 --> 00:51:09,640
Speaker 1: You're like, so, Ellen, tell me a story about another Pokemon. Okay,

799
00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:13,360
Speaker 1: my second pick for a Pokemon is A It's another

800
00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:16,120
Speaker 1: ground and dragon type. Like you see, I have a

801
00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:19,759
Speaker 1: I have a an aesthetic that I like. Um, but

802
00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:22,160
Speaker 1: it's very, very different. This is a ground and dragon

803
00:51:22,239 --> 00:51:26,359
Speaker 1: type introduced in the third generation of Pokemon games, which

804
00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:30,000
Speaker 1: were Ruby, Sapphire, and Emerald, and it is called flag On.

805
00:51:31,160 --> 00:51:37,360
Speaker 1: There we go. Yeah, is a really and I could not, like,

806
00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:40,759
Speaker 1: I could not paint the full picture of flag On

807
00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:44,880
Speaker 1: without talking about the Pokemon that evolved into flag On. Yeah. Um,

808
00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:47,600
Speaker 1: so I included the whole like evolutionary line there, I'm

809
00:51:47,600 --> 00:51:49,920
Speaker 1: looking at these little dudes, I'm looking at them and

810
00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:53,680
Speaker 1: I'm loving it. I'm really loving it. And that's already

811
00:51:54,239 --> 00:51:55,920
Speaker 1: see where I'm going with it. If you're looking at

812
00:51:55,960 --> 00:51:59,759
Speaker 1: the evolutionary line, you're probably going to talk about this.

813
00:51:59,840 --> 00:52:03,839
Speaker 1: But one thing that's interesting about Pokemon is like these stages, right,

814
00:52:04,200 --> 00:52:07,600
Speaker 1: they call it like it evolving, but it's more like

815
00:52:07,719 --> 00:52:14,200
Speaker 1: a metamorphosis. Right. And with most animals, like uh, most mammals,

816
00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:17,920
Speaker 1: you know, birds, you kind of start out as like

817
00:52:18,120 --> 00:52:21,800
Speaker 1: a smaller, more maybe more hairless, and ugly looking version

818
00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:25,600
Speaker 1: of the adult self. Of course, there are things that happen,

819
00:52:25,719 --> 00:52:29,759
Speaker 1: you know, puberty, um and and and changes. Your body

820
00:52:29,880 --> 00:52:34,000
Speaker 1: may go through changes as you grow, but most animals

821
00:52:34,120 --> 00:52:38,080
Speaker 1: basically start out or not most animals by numbers, but

822
00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:41,360
Speaker 1: many of the animals we are familiar with sort of

823
00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:44,320
Speaker 1: start out as a smaller version of its adult self.

824
00:52:44,560 --> 00:52:47,920
Speaker 1: But this is not true of insects. They can go

825
00:52:48,200 --> 00:52:51,800
Speaker 1: through Obviously, we have things that start out as larva

826
00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:56,399
Speaker 1: and then metamorphizes into adults, like caterpillars. But there are

827
00:52:56,760 --> 00:53:01,160
Speaker 1: insects that will go through many stages of nymphs and

828
00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:05,960
Speaker 1: in stars before they reach their fully mature version, and

829
00:53:06,080 --> 00:53:10,160
Speaker 1: they can look ridiculously different. Like if you've ever seen

830
00:53:10,800 --> 00:53:15,320
Speaker 1: a nymph of a ladybug, it's freaky looking, it's spiky,

831
00:53:15,840 --> 00:53:19,719
Speaker 1: it's scary looking, cute at all, not cute, and then

832
00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:25,759
Speaker 1: it metamorphosizes metamorphosis. I cannot say it, Danny Kafka. It's

833
00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:30,360
Speaker 1: a cop casque nightmare that they go through metamorphosis into

834
00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:34,719
Speaker 1: a beautiful adult. But uh so when I see a

835
00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:37,440
Speaker 1: pokemon that is a bug type pokemon, I'm like, yeah,

836
00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:39,960
Speaker 1: this this is accurate this tracks because it has these

837
00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:44,560
Speaker 1: very different evolutions. Yeah, a lot of times people like

838
00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:49,839
Speaker 1: propose changes to like Pokemon's evolution line based on like, well,

839
00:53:49,880 --> 00:53:52,400
Speaker 1: I think this Pokemon actually looks more like it should

840
00:53:52,440 --> 00:53:56,640
Speaker 1: evolve into this other Pokemon because the first stage looks

841
00:53:56,680 --> 00:53:59,239
Speaker 1: more like the third stage. And while I get what

842
00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:01,400
Speaker 1: they're going for, where because it looks like a more

843
00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:04,960
Speaker 1: gradual transition in the real world, that's not you know,

844
00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:07,440
Speaker 1: you can have a larval form of an animal that

845
00:54:07,520 --> 00:54:11,279
Speaker 1: looks nothing like it's adult form, which really plays out

846
00:54:11,360 --> 00:54:13,840
Speaker 1: in flag On, because I will admit, you know, for

847
00:54:13,960 --> 00:54:16,640
Speaker 1: most of my life, I don't live in a place

848
00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:20,080
Speaker 1: where the real life flag On lives, so I did

849
00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:22,640
Speaker 1: not know that it was based on a real animal.

850
00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:25,719
Speaker 1: So I'm looking at this evolutionary line from there called

851
00:54:25,760 --> 00:54:30,680
Speaker 1: Trappinch to Vibrata to flag On, and trap Inch is

852
00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:34,680
Speaker 1: definitely the odd one out here. Trap Inch looks nothing

853
00:54:35,320 --> 00:54:38,479
Speaker 1: like it's later evolutions. Yeah, it looks like a little

854
00:54:38,560 --> 00:54:41,640
Speaker 1: bug turtle. It does. So. Vibrabra and flyg On have

855
00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:44,879
Speaker 1: these big wings, they have long, thin bodies. They look

856
00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:49,280
Speaker 1: more more insect like um but they look like dragons,

857
00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:52,960
Speaker 1: look more like desert dragons. We got the middle stage

858
00:54:53,040 --> 00:54:56,960
Speaker 1: that looks kind of like a fly with diamonds for wing,

859
00:54:57,200 --> 00:55:01,120
Speaker 1: like diamond shaped wings and diamond shaped tail. It kind

860
00:55:01,160 --> 00:55:03,680
Speaker 1: of looks like it actually looks sort of like a

861
00:55:04,080 --> 00:55:08,959
Speaker 1: mayflies larval stage with wings. And then the adult version

862
00:55:09,040 --> 00:55:13,239
Speaker 1: looks like a little dragon but with big bug eyes um.

863
00:55:13,840 --> 00:55:16,760
Speaker 1: And then like the other and diamond shaped, big diamond

864
00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:20,000
Speaker 1: shaped wings and a in a big tail. And then

865
00:55:20,080 --> 00:55:22,839
Speaker 1: the but the babiest version, the most baby of them,

866
00:55:23,360 --> 00:55:28,239
Speaker 1: looks like a weird trap bug bug turtle. Yes, yeah,

867
00:55:28,560 --> 00:55:32,680
Speaker 1: so trappinge, you know, just kind of looks I always

868
00:55:32,719 --> 00:55:35,880
Speaker 1: thought that it looked like it's head looks kind of

869
00:55:35,960 --> 00:55:39,359
Speaker 1: like a crab claw. Yeah, you know, like it has

870
00:55:39,400 --> 00:55:42,400
Speaker 1: these big bear trap jaws that are with this big

871
00:55:42,520 --> 00:55:44,879
Speaker 1: round head. So I always as a kid, I feel

872
00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:47,520
Speaker 1: like I really thought it was like a crab. And

873
00:55:47,840 --> 00:55:49,880
Speaker 1: it was so so confusing to me because I was like,

874
00:55:49,920 --> 00:55:52,799
Speaker 1: this doesn't it doesn't look anything like what it evolves into,

875
00:55:52,880 --> 00:55:54,880
Speaker 1: what it grows up into. So I really did not

876
00:55:55,080 --> 00:55:58,520
Speaker 1: understand what this evolution line was all about. But it

877
00:55:58,680 --> 00:56:01,560
Speaker 1: wasn't until like adulthood when I started to learn what

878
00:56:01,719 --> 00:56:06,400
Speaker 1: more animals were Um that I found out that flagon

879
00:56:06,600 --> 00:56:11,239
Speaker 1: is based on the real life ant lion. Did not

880
00:56:11,480 --> 00:56:16,040
Speaker 1: know what ant lions were until very recently, because it

881
00:56:16,120 --> 00:56:20,279
Speaker 1: makes so much sense, doesn't it. Um. So, as you know,

882
00:56:20,440 --> 00:56:25,080
Speaker 1: ant lions are insects that live in dry arid regions,

883
00:56:25,200 --> 00:56:26,920
Speaker 1: which is not where I live. I live in Florida,

884
00:56:27,040 --> 00:56:29,120
Speaker 1: which is the opposite of a dry and arid region,

885
00:56:29,719 --> 00:56:35,360
Speaker 1: so we don't have those where I mushy region Florida lions,

886
00:56:35,520 --> 00:56:40,879
Speaker 1: I think is called wet and mushy, it's called yucky. Um.

887
00:56:41,719 --> 00:56:44,879
Speaker 1: But so if you, like me, are new to ant

888
00:56:44,960 --> 00:56:47,719
Speaker 1: lions and did not grow up with them. Uh. They

889
00:56:48,080 --> 00:56:51,560
Speaker 1: as an adult they look kind of like a damselfly.

890
00:56:52,560 --> 00:56:55,839
Speaker 1: Uh for a dragonfly, I think they look like dragonflies.

891
00:56:55,920 --> 00:56:58,040
Speaker 1: But if you know what damsel flies are, look like

892
00:56:58,120 --> 00:57:00,920
Speaker 1: those two there's a long, skinny bod with two pairs

893
00:57:01,000 --> 00:57:04,880
Speaker 1: of large wings. Um, they're not related. Antlions are not

894
00:57:04,960 --> 00:57:08,040
Speaker 1: related to damsel flies or dragonflies. It's just a coincidence

895
00:57:08,080 --> 00:57:11,799
Speaker 1: of convergent evolution, like you were talking about. Um. There

896
00:57:11,840 --> 00:57:15,680
Speaker 1: are over two thousand species of ant lions, so there's

897
00:57:15,719 --> 00:57:18,320
Speaker 1: lots of different types of them, including over a hundred

898
00:57:18,400 --> 00:57:20,960
Speaker 1: of them that live in North America, but lots of

899
00:57:21,040 --> 00:57:24,600
Speaker 1: them live elsewhere, like in Africa or the Middle East.

900
00:57:24,680 --> 00:57:27,400
Speaker 1: I think there might be some in Asia, probably um.

901
00:57:27,560 --> 00:57:29,640
Speaker 1: But there's lots of different types of antlions, but you

902
00:57:29,720 --> 00:57:31,120
Speaker 1: can find a lot of them right here in North

903
00:57:31,200 --> 00:57:35,840
Speaker 1: America where I live, just not in Florida. So trappinch

904
00:57:36,240 --> 00:57:39,400
Speaker 1: being the baby form of flag on, is based on

905
00:57:39,600 --> 00:57:43,280
Speaker 1: the larval form of ant lions, which are probably the

906
00:57:43,400 --> 00:57:47,280
Speaker 1: form that most people are familiar with, because ant lion

907
00:57:47,440 --> 00:57:53,720
Speaker 1: larva have massive, jagged, sickle shaped jaws and they hold

908
00:57:53,800 --> 00:57:56,680
Speaker 1: their jaws open like a bear trap at the bottom

909
00:57:56,800 --> 00:57:59,440
Speaker 1: of a funnel shaped pit that they dig in the

910
00:57:59,560 --> 00:58:03,200
Speaker 1: sand by burrowing backwards in a spiral. And when they

911
00:58:03,240 --> 00:58:05,440
Speaker 1: do this, it's really funny because they're kind of wiggling

912
00:58:05,480 --> 00:58:08,120
Speaker 1: their butt backwards. They're like torking in a giant spiral

913
00:58:08,640 --> 00:58:13,320
Speaker 1: like backwards to to dig this little cone shaped m burrow.

914
00:58:14,120 --> 00:58:18,040
Speaker 1: So they wait with their jaws open. You know. That's

915
00:58:18,040 --> 00:58:19,800
Speaker 1: how you got to get comfortable in the couch. You

916
00:58:19,800 --> 00:58:25,120
Speaker 1: can get that little bit but a formulation. So the

917
00:58:25,360 --> 00:58:27,800
Speaker 1: reason they do this is so that ants who are

918
00:58:27,840 --> 00:58:30,320
Speaker 1: just crawling around on the sand none the wiser. They

919
00:58:30,560 --> 00:58:34,160
Speaker 1: fall down the slope into the funnel that they've created,

920
00:58:34,520 --> 00:58:36,960
Speaker 1: and then once they hit the bottom, the ant lion

921
00:58:37,120 --> 00:58:40,720
Speaker 1: snaps its jaws shut and eats the ant so kind

922
00:58:40,720 --> 00:58:44,080
Speaker 1: of a diabolical situation. I think this is like the

923
00:58:44,960 --> 00:58:49,000
Speaker 1: inspiration for like the Sarlac from Star Wars, which was

924
00:58:49,080 --> 00:58:53,200
Speaker 1: in turn, I believe inspired by Dune Um. I'm not

925
00:58:54,080 --> 00:58:56,440
Speaker 1: unfortunately I have not seen done yet, but it's you

926
00:58:56,560 --> 00:58:58,760
Speaker 1: see this in a lot of sci fi. There's a

927
00:58:58,920 --> 00:59:04,960
Speaker 1: lot of worm like snappy tunneling creatures that that there

928
00:59:05,080 --> 00:59:11,240
Speaker 1: that have this theme, like the babbitt Uh worm. Yeah,

929
00:59:11,600 --> 00:59:14,080
Speaker 1: it's got those pincers just like the ant lion. It's

930
00:59:14,080 --> 00:59:17,520
Speaker 1: a lot longer, a lot longer of a thing. And

931
00:59:17,640 --> 00:59:20,920
Speaker 1: then yeah, and then it pops out of there, grabs

932
00:59:20,920 --> 00:59:24,120
Speaker 1: a fish and pulls it in there. It's horrifying, but yeah,

933
00:59:24,600 --> 00:59:27,360
Speaker 1: these ant lions. You know, it's interesting because when I

934
00:59:27,480 --> 00:59:30,080
Speaker 1: was a kid, I played a very different game that

935
00:59:30,240 --> 00:59:33,760
Speaker 1: involved the ant lion, and that was I think it

936
00:59:33,920 --> 00:59:38,920
Speaker 1: was just called aunt sim or sim Ant might have

937
00:59:39,000 --> 00:59:42,440
Speaker 1: been called sim Ant, and it was an ant simulator

938
00:59:42,640 --> 00:59:46,360
Speaker 1: and you went around as an aunt and basically you

939
00:59:46,400 --> 00:59:48,920
Speaker 1: were trying to because you were an aunt it was

940
00:59:49,000 --> 00:59:52,160
Speaker 1: all about the success of the colony, not necessarily one

941
00:59:52,200 --> 00:59:54,919
Speaker 1: individual ant, which took me a while to learn, because

942
00:59:54,920 --> 00:59:56,680
Speaker 1: I would keep going around as one aunt and I

943
00:59:56,800 --> 00:59:58,800
Speaker 1: kept dying, and I was like, well, I keep dying,

944
00:59:58,840 --> 01:00:01,120
Speaker 1: and then it's like, oh, no, I can switch to

945
01:00:01,200 --> 01:00:05,240
Speaker 1: the other ants. And and because you're it's about the

946
01:00:05,320 --> 01:00:10,600
Speaker 1: success of the ant colony, and one of your nemesis

947
01:00:10,760 --> 01:00:17,320
Speaker 1: is NEMESSI Nemesis was an ant lion, and you would walk.

948
01:00:17,440 --> 01:00:20,080
Speaker 1: If you accidentally walked over ground, you had to pay

949
01:00:20,320 --> 01:00:22,960
Speaker 1: very careful attention to the ground. If you got too

950
01:00:23,040 --> 01:00:26,200
Speaker 1: close to something that looked like kind of a little indentation,

951
01:00:27,000 --> 01:00:30,280
Speaker 1: you would get snapped up, and that was bad. It

952
01:00:30,360 --> 01:00:33,600
Speaker 1: made me sad. That's incredible. That is such an interesting

953
01:00:33,760 --> 01:00:38,680
Speaker 1: like mechanic for a video game. So when you were

954
01:00:38,720 --> 01:00:41,720
Speaker 1: saying that, like you used to play us, I didn't

955
01:00:41,840 --> 01:00:43,200
Speaker 1: think that you were going to say a video game.

956
01:00:43,200 --> 01:00:45,280
Speaker 1: I thought you were going to talk about like actually

957
01:00:45,360 --> 01:00:49,000
Speaker 1: playing with ant lion larva, because like, no, if you

958
01:00:49,160 --> 01:00:50,840
Speaker 1: if you kind of like look around, a lot of

959
01:00:51,080 --> 01:00:52,880
Speaker 1: I guess a lot of kids like to play with

960
01:00:53,200 --> 01:00:56,240
Speaker 1: ant lion larva. They like to like drop little bugs

961
01:00:56,280 --> 01:01:00,400
Speaker 1: into their pits and oh my, like as if you

962
01:01:00,920 --> 01:01:03,520
Speaker 1: if you kind of just like touch the sides of

963
01:01:03,680 --> 01:01:07,000
Speaker 1: their funnel, then they'll snap their jaws shut because I

964
01:01:07,040 --> 01:01:10,200
Speaker 1: think they're they're like detecting the vibrations in the sand

965
01:01:10,680 --> 01:01:14,040
Speaker 1: so you can just get a sandwich. Yeah, like like

966
01:01:14,360 --> 01:01:16,240
Speaker 1: give it a little something for its troubles. I'm sure

967
01:01:16,280 --> 01:01:19,280
Speaker 1: that's energetically expensive to snap their jaws shut like that.

968
01:01:19,520 --> 01:01:23,320
Speaker 1: But um, so while they're when they're digging their traps,

969
01:01:23,440 --> 01:01:25,840
Speaker 1: they leave these little trails in the sand that make

970
01:01:25,920 --> 01:01:28,960
Speaker 1: these little designs, which has earned them the nickname of

971
01:01:29,080 --> 01:01:33,440
Speaker 1: doodle bug in North America. So some people in doodle bugs,

972
01:01:33,960 --> 01:01:36,200
Speaker 1: which I guess is like way too cute of a

973
01:01:36,320 --> 01:01:39,040
Speaker 1: nickname for such a horrifying looking little critter, Like it

974
01:01:39,120 --> 01:01:41,400
Speaker 1: does not if you just look at a picture of one,

975
01:01:41,760 --> 01:01:43,600
Speaker 1: they do not look like something you would call a

976
01:01:43,720 --> 01:01:46,320
Speaker 1: doodle bug. That seems very benign of a name for

977
01:01:47,320 --> 01:01:53,520
Speaker 1: the sinister looking creature. Wow, yeah, yeah, it's they are

978
01:01:53,840 --> 01:01:56,800
Speaker 1: quite sinister. And then they kind of evolve into something

979
01:01:56,920 --> 01:02:03,960
Speaker 1: more elegant and and pretty. A dragonfly. Yeah, have you

980
01:02:04,080 --> 01:02:08,720
Speaker 1: heard of a thread wing ant lion? I don't think so.

981
01:02:09,640 --> 01:02:14,240
Speaker 1: They are weirdoos so they are. It's just kind of

982
01:02:14,320 --> 01:02:19,360
Speaker 1: like the same situation as the other antlines. Um, they

983
01:02:19,520 --> 01:02:23,120
Speaker 1: evolve into something that looks like a cross between a

984
01:02:23,360 --> 01:02:27,200
Speaker 1: dragonfly and a butterfly. It's quite beautiful. But they start

985
01:02:27,240 --> 01:02:30,960
Speaker 1: out life like like the antline creepy body, creepy pincer head,

986
01:02:31,160 --> 01:02:33,640
Speaker 1: but just take that head and put it on a

987
01:02:33,760 --> 01:02:41,000
Speaker 1: long stick. Like they have this bizarre giraffe head, and uh,

988
01:02:41,360 --> 01:02:45,680
Speaker 1: it's just the weirdest looking thing. It's like kind of

989
01:02:45,800 --> 01:02:48,640
Speaker 1: scary when you think about it's pincer head and all

990
01:02:48,720 --> 01:02:51,400
Speaker 1: these things, but then the fact it's got this long

991
01:02:52,240 --> 01:02:55,960
Speaker 1: like stick neck, it makes it kind of more goofy

992
01:02:56,040 --> 01:03:00,680
Speaker 1: than it is scary. It reminds me of those things

993
01:03:00,800 --> 01:03:05,680
Speaker 1: that you can get that's like, yeah, like a t

994
01:03:05,880 --> 01:03:08,440
Speaker 1: rex head on a long things that you pull the

995
01:03:08,480 --> 01:03:11,840
Speaker 1: trigger and it closes the jaws. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes,

996
01:03:11,920 --> 01:03:17,440
Speaker 1: agree agree. I'm so glad that they have been like, yeah,

997
01:03:17,480 --> 01:03:20,360
Speaker 1: I'm actually going to do that with my body right, yeah,

998
01:03:20,600 --> 01:03:23,320
Speaker 1: just like I can't reach well, I don't want to know.

999
01:03:24,440 --> 01:03:30,120
Speaker 1: She's just soup. Get along your neck. Yeah, that's really funny.

1000
01:03:30,800 --> 01:03:33,560
Speaker 1: Like I feel like the next time my taller husband

1001
01:03:33,760 --> 01:03:36,760
Speaker 1: puts something up high that I can't reach, and I'm like, well,

1002
01:03:37,160 --> 01:03:39,439
Speaker 1: I've got a trick and just scratch my neck out

1003
01:03:39,520 --> 01:03:46,520
Speaker 1: like two feet up, just go go, gadget neck. Yeah.

1004
01:03:47,160 --> 01:03:49,640
Speaker 1: So if you if you catch a trapp inch in

1005
01:03:50,360 --> 01:03:52,760
Speaker 1: so the trappinches like based on the larva and not

1006
01:03:52,920 --> 01:03:55,640
Speaker 1: the full grown form um. If you catch it in

1007
01:03:55,720 --> 01:03:59,880
Speaker 1: Pokemon ruby, it's Polka dex Entry says trappinches. Nest Is

1008
01:04:00,360 --> 01:04:03,080
Speaker 1: is a sloped, bold like pit dug in the sand.

1009
01:04:04,080 --> 01:04:06,480
Speaker 1: One patiently waits for prey to tumble down the pit.

1010
01:04:07,000 --> 01:04:12,760
Speaker 1: It's giant jaws have enough strength to crush even boulders. Yeah,

1011
01:04:12,920 --> 01:04:16,720
Speaker 1: so trapped inches a little bit more serious than doodle bug.

1012
01:04:17,240 --> 01:04:19,160
Speaker 1: You don't want to stick your finger in that hole,

1013
01:04:20,280 --> 01:04:23,360
Speaker 1: and that that is the saying of this podcast. You

1014
01:04:23,440 --> 01:04:27,160
Speaker 1: don't want to stick your finger into strange holes. Don't

1015
01:04:27,560 --> 01:04:30,760
Speaker 1: make sure that you're uh super familiar with the hole

1016
01:04:30,800 --> 01:04:35,360
Speaker 1: you're about to stick your finger into. Yes, um, Pokemon,

1017
01:04:35,560 --> 01:04:39,080
Speaker 1: like Poka x entries are always so over the top

1018
01:04:39,200 --> 01:04:41,760
Speaker 1: like this, like like it has the strength to crush

1019
01:04:41,840 --> 01:04:44,080
Speaker 1: boulders or with guard chump, it's like it's as fast

1020
01:04:44,160 --> 01:04:47,040
Speaker 1: as a jet plane, you know, Like that every Pokemon

1021
01:04:47,240 --> 01:04:49,280
Speaker 1: will it'll be like something the size of a house cat,

1022
01:04:49,560 --> 01:04:51,960
Speaker 1: and they'll be like it can crush a mountain, like

1023
01:04:52,280 --> 01:04:55,160
Speaker 1: they have the most like they're over the top all

1024
01:04:55,240 --> 01:04:59,560
Speaker 1: the time. It can be also over the top like dramatic,

1025
01:04:59,760 --> 01:05:03,040
Speaker 1: like Cubane is this adorable little dinosaur with like a

1026
01:05:03,160 --> 01:05:05,280
Speaker 1: skull on its head, and it's like this was its

1027
01:05:05,400 --> 01:05:08,280
Speaker 1: mother's skull that it wears on its head to help

1028
01:05:08,320 --> 01:05:12,360
Speaker 1: it sleep at night as it cries. It's like, ohkay, Pokemon,

1029
01:05:13,920 --> 01:05:17,040
Speaker 1: ghost type Pokemon. There are some ghost type Pokemon where

1030
01:05:17,120 --> 01:05:20,120
Speaker 1: like the Polka x enter will be like, yeah, this

1031
01:05:20,280 --> 01:05:24,560
Speaker 1: is a ghost of a person who died. Okay, okay game.

1032
01:05:24,840 --> 01:05:28,320
Speaker 1: This is a game played by kids around the Thanks

1033
01:05:28,440 --> 01:05:33,240
Speaker 1: Mr mcreel Um. But so you know, I like to

1034
01:05:33,320 --> 01:05:36,440
Speaker 1: think about how like the real world biology of the

1035
01:05:36,520 --> 01:05:39,960
Speaker 1: animal plays out in the game itself. Um, And there

1036
01:05:40,080 --> 01:05:43,960
Speaker 1: is an interesting way that this plays out for trappinch Um.

1037
01:05:44,680 --> 01:05:47,640
Speaker 1: The ant lions spend most of their life in their

1038
01:05:48,080 --> 01:05:50,520
Speaker 1: larval stage. So you're probably more familiar with the larval

1039
01:05:50,560 --> 01:05:52,720
Speaker 1: stage because that's how they spend most of their life.

1040
01:05:53,120 --> 01:05:56,640
Speaker 1: Once they assume their adult form, where they have wings

1041
01:05:56,720 --> 01:05:58,800
Speaker 1: and look like a dragonfly, they only live like that

1042
01:05:58,920 --> 01:06:01,720
Speaker 1: for about a month, and during that time that I

1043
01:06:01,760 --> 01:06:05,520
Speaker 1: would have expected, actually, because sometimes, yeah, those adult stages

1044
01:06:05,600 --> 01:06:09,400
Speaker 1: can last for like twenty four hours. Yeah, you're really

1045
01:06:09,520 --> 01:06:12,720
Speaker 1: on the clock is taking for at that point. But

1046
01:06:12,800 --> 01:06:15,240
Speaker 1: they can survive off of nectar and pollen while they're

1047
01:06:15,240 --> 01:06:17,360
Speaker 1: in their adult forms, so they have a little bit

1048
01:06:17,400 --> 01:06:19,720
Speaker 1: of time. They got about a month. Um. But I

1049
01:06:19,840 --> 01:06:23,760
Speaker 1: think that that like lengthy larval stage is referenced in

1050
01:06:23,960 --> 01:06:27,280
Speaker 1: trap inches life cycle in the game. It doesn't evolve

1051
01:06:27,520 --> 01:06:31,240
Speaker 1: so like it takes the next form until level thirty five,

1052
01:06:31,560 --> 01:06:34,840
Speaker 1: which is far above average for the first of a

1053
01:06:34,920 --> 01:06:38,880
Speaker 1: three stage evolution line UM. I checked Bulbapdia and Bulba

1054
01:06:38,960 --> 01:06:43,400
Speaker 1: Pda says that the average the average level for the

1055
01:06:43,520 --> 01:06:46,520
Speaker 1: first stage of a three stage evolution is about twenty three,

1056
01:06:47,200 --> 01:06:50,200
Speaker 1: so it's twelve levels higher than the average UM So

1057
01:06:50,320 --> 01:06:52,439
Speaker 1: it does take quite a while to train a trap

1058
01:06:52,520 --> 01:06:54,880
Speaker 1: Inch up all the way into a flag on. So

1059
01:06:55,120 --> 01:06:57,960
Speaker 1: I think that's like an interesting nod to like the

1060
01:06:58,320 --> 01:07:01,120
Speaker 1: real ant lions life cycle, Like, oh yeah, it's gonna

1061
01:07:01,160 --> 01:07:03,000
Speaker 1: stay a baby for most of its life. I think

1062
01:07:03,040 --> 01:07:05,040
Speaker 1: it's pretty cool. Yeah, I like it when they just

1063
01:07:05,160 --> 01:07:10,480
Speaker 1: like incorporate that into the game. Mechanics. Yeah, the next

1064
01:07:10,640 --> 01:07:12,920
Speaker 1: the last Pokemon I have to talk about. There's a

1065
01:07:13,240 --> 01:07:18,720
Speaker 1: very interesting way that ecology plays into the game. I

1066
01:07:18,800 --> 01:07:21,440
Speaker 1: really can't wait to talk about it. Well, I'm excited,

1067
01:07:21,720 --> 01:07:25,440
Speaker 1: so I'm going to take a break to scream in excitement,

1068
01:07:25,520 --> 01:07:27,800
Speaker 1: which you guys don't want to hear. Uh, And then

1069
01:07:27,880 --> 01:07:33,480
Speaker 1: I'll be and then we'll be right back. Oh, I

1070
01:07:33,560 --> 01:07:35,200
Speaker 1: can't scream. I have a baby in the other room.

1071
01:07:35,720 --> 01:07:37,840
Speaker 1: I'm screaming in my heart. What's that thing from? Like

1072
01:07:38,040 --> 01:07:41,120
Speaker 1: that Japanese side where it's like, please scream inside your heart,

1073
01:07:41,280 --> 01:07:49,960
Speaker 1: scream inside your heart? Thank you? So tell me about

1074
01:07:50,160 --> 01:07:55,560
Speaker 1: the Pokemon. Okay, I for my grand finale, I have

1075
01:07:56,000 --> 01:07:59,520
Speaker 1: a really interesting pokemon that is actually a new one. Um.

1076
01:08:00,080 --> 01:08:02,840
Speaker 1: This is a poison and water type pokemon introduced in

1077
01:08:02,920 --> 01:08:06,080
Speaker 1: Gen seven, which were Sun and Moon, whose were actually

1078
01:08:06,160 --> 01:08:10,360
Speaker 1: like somewhat recent games. These pokemon are called Marini and

1079
01:08:10,640 --> 01:08:15,200
Speaker 1: Toxic pex m. I dropped a couple of pictures of

1080
01:08:15,320 --> 01:08:20,559
Speaker 1: them for you. Like that they are such like almost

1081
01:08:20,640 --> 01:08:23,559
Speaker 1: silly looking pokemon, but in a very interesting way, they're

1082
01:08:23,600 --> 01:08:28,200
Speaker 1: like endearing I think. So. These Pokemon both have these thick,

1083
01:08:28,680 --> 01:08:32,879
Speaker 1: spiky tentacles that sprout out from their heads. So in Marini,

1084
01:08:33,200 --> 01:08:36,680
Speaker 1: which is like the baby version, they resemble hair I

1085
01:08:36,800 --> 01:08:39,320
Speaker 1: think they look like Medusa if she had like thorny

1086
01:08:39,400 --> 01:08:42,559
Speaker 1: tentacles instead of snakes for her hair um. And then

1087
01:08:42,640 --> 01:08:46,479
Speaker 1: in toxo Pex, they form a dome around the pokemon's body,

1088
01:08:46,520 --> 01:08:48,920
Speaker 1: and the pokemon's actual body is like, really really small.

1089
01:08:49,200 --> 01:08:51,960
Speaker 1: It's like a small body suspended inside of a dome

1090
01:08:52,160 --> 01:08:55,439
Speaker 1: made out of spiky tentacles. It looks like an umbrella,

1091
01:08:55,760 --> 01:08:59,160
Speaker 1: but with like that can move like across a tween

1092
01:08:59,200 --> 01:09:04,800
Speaker 1: and an umbrella and like ap peeled banana. Yeah for sure,

1093
01:09:05,400 --> 01:09:09,000
Speaker 1: I see that, and a little angry dude in the

1094
01:09:09,040 --> 01:09:11,439
Speaker 1: middle of it. Inside. Oh yeah, he looks all mad.

1095
01:09:11,560 --> 01:09:14,200
Speaker 1: He's got jagged teeth talks. Pex is kind of silly

1096
01:09:14,240 --> 01:09:16,760
Speaker 1: looking inside of his little dome. But the reason for

1097
01:09:16,880 --> 01:09:19,719
Speaker 1: this is that both of these pokemon's designs are based

1098
01:09:19,760 --> 01:09:26,040
Speaker 1: on the real life Crowd of Thorns Starfish love this creature. Well,

1099
01:09:26,160 --> 01:09:29,760
Speaker 1: I mean, I love him when he's doing the right thing.

1100
01:09:31,040 --> 01:09:35,600
Speaker 1: So the crowd of Thorne's starfish, like their Pokemon counterparts,

1101
01:09:35,640 --> 01:09:38,559
Speaker 1: have many arms. They can have up to twenty one arms.

1102
01:09:39,360 --> 01:09:41,960
Speaker 1: Um starfish don't only have don't only come in that

1103
01:09:42,120 --> 01:09:44,519
Speaker 1: like five raid form, but I think is the most

1104
01:09:44,840 --> 01:09:48,320
Speaker 1: common that you'll see. They could have tons of arms, um.

1105
01:09:49,120 --> 01:09:51,000
Speaker 1: You know, they can come in so many different shapes

1106
01:09:51,040 --> 01:09:54,320
Speaker 1: and sizes, but the crown of thorns starfish has up

1107
01:09:54,360 --> 01:10:00,160
Speaker 1: to one max I think is the highest number ever recorded. Um.

1108
01:10:00,200 --> 01:10:02,439
Speaker 1: And then all of those arms that they have are

1109
01:10:02,560 --> 01:10:06,439
Speaker 1: covered in venomous spikes, which is why marinas are part

1110
01:10:06,520 --> 01:10:09,760
Speaker 1: poison type UM. So you can see that like play

1111
01:10:09,800 --> 01:10:13,120
Speaker 1: out in the Pokemon. So for the crowd of thorn starfish,

1112
01:10:13,360 --> 01:10:17,879
Speaker 1: the venomous spikes protected from predators makes it really difficult

1113
01:10:17,920 --> 01:10:20,000
Speaker 1: for things to chomp them up. Yeah, I feel like

1114
01:10:20,280 --> 01:10:25,240
Speaker 1: I like to eat seafood that has fewer venomous spikes

1115
01:10:25,400 --> 01:10:33,760
Speaker 1: than the one you guys have fewer, not none, but yeah,

1116
01:10:34,520 --> 01:10:36,160
Speaker 1: I mean you got to keep a few in there

1117
01:10:36,240 --> 01:10:38,680
Speaker 1: to like make it a little spicy. That's how it's

1118
01:10:38,720 --> 01:10:40,759
Speaker 1: a cannopy. You can pick it up by the spikes.

1119
01:10:40,840 --> 01:10:45,680
Speaker 1: But this this is just Yeah, they are really not

1120
01:10:45,880 --> 01:10:50,160
Speaker 1: an inviting meal, but they themselves are predators. And crayon

1121
01:10:50,600 --> 01:10:54,760
Speaker 1: is coral polyps um. I don't know if you've talked

1122
01:10:54,760 --> 01:11:01,799
Speaker 1: about coral. Yeah, I do. The sort of massive mating

1123
01:11:02,040 --> 01:11:05,400
Speaker 1: sex events of coral some of the biggest mass mating

1124
01:11:05,479 --> 01:11:13,519
Speaker 1: events where it's just just disgusting. And the polyps of

1125
01:11:13,680 --> 01:11:17,040
Speaker 1: that that coral r and D living creatures and in

1126
01:11:17,200 --> 01:11:21,280
Speaker 1: their larval stage will settle down on a reef and

1127
01:11:21,360 --> 01:11:27,680
Speaker 1: eventually grow into the weird mineral like organisms that we know.

1128
01:11:28,160 --> 01:11:30,080
Speaker 1: But yeah, they do not. They do not start out

1129
01:11:30,320 --> 01:11:34,240
Speaker 1: life as sessile, as sedentary. They start out life moving

1130
01:11:34,320 --> 01:11:38,639
Speaker 1: around and trying to find a place. Yeah. So um

1131
01:11:38,800 --> 01:11:42,600
Speaker 1: that is the coral polyps are absolutely the bread and

1132
01:11:42,640 --> 01:11:45,400
Speaker 1: butter for the start the crown of thorn starfish, that's

1133
01:11:45,400 --> 01:11:47,800
Speaker 1: their favorite meal. And they do this in a really

1134
01:11:47,880 --> 01:11:50,840
Speaker 1: gross way, like they eat the coral. This is kind

1135
01:11:50,880 --> 01:11:53,400
Speaker 1: of like how starfish eat, but I think it's nasty

1136
01:11:53,560 --> 01:11:57,439
Speaker 1: and some kids might find it interesting. So they eat

1137
01:11:57,800 --> 01:12:01,840
Speaker 1: by puking their guts out out literally, so they take

1138
01:12:01,880 --> 01:12:07,160
Speaker 1: their insides and make them outsides by just like vomiting

1139
01:12:07,479 --> 01:12:10,800
Speaker 1: their guts out through the middle of their body through uh.

1140
01:12:11,080 --> 01:12:14,120
Speaker 1: I believe the technical term is their mouth butt um,

1141
01:12:14,360 --> 01:12:16,519
Speaker 1: I think, but the scientific term is their mouth. But

1142
01:12:17,360 --> 01:12:19,479
Speaker 1: because they just have the it's just the one hole

1143
01:12:19,720 --> 01:12:22,960
Speaker 1: right for everything um going in coming out. It's just

1144
01:12:23,160 --> 01:12:26,560
Speaker 1: just the one central sort of portal to inside of

1145
01:12:26,640 --> 01:12:31,200
Speaker 1: the starfish, so all purpose utility hole. Yeah, it's just

1146
01:12:31,320 --> 01:12:36,760
Speaker 1: the one hole. So they invert their insides out through

1147
01:12:36,880 --> 01:12:40,560
Speaker 1: this hole, and then they wrap their guts around the

1148
01:12:40,680 --> 01:12:45,240
Speaker 1: coral and digest the tissue around their skeleton and eat

1149
01:12:45,280 --> 01:12:48,240
Speaker 1: them like that. When you see a piece of dead coral,

1150
01:12:48,439 --> 01:12:51,320
Speaker 1: even it may feel like this sort of hard rocky

1151
01:12:51,439 --> 01:12:54,400
Speaker 1: thing with all these little like divots in it um.

1152
01:12:54,600 --> 01:12:57,959
Speaker 1: But when that coral is alive, each of those divots

1153
01:12:58,160 --> 01:13:01,360
Speaker 1: is going to hold a little pall up and these

1154
01:13:01,400 --> 01:13:06,160
Speaker 1: little polyps kind of it's like like little tiny sea

1155
01:13:06,200 --> 01:13:08,680
Speaker 1: an enemy. I mean, like some coral can actually grow

1156
01:13:08,760 --> 01:13:12,719
Speaker 1: to be bigger, so the polyps are visible and larger

1157
01:13:12,800 --> 01:13:15,240
Speaker 1: and more flower like. But for some of these coral

1158
01:13:15,600 --> 01:13:18,960
Speaker 1: like it just looks like sort of fuzz. But that

1159
01:13:19,120 --> 01:13:22,760
Speaker 1: fuzz is made up of all these individual little polyps

1160
01:13:23,000 --> 01:13:27,160
Speaker 1: that look like these little teeny tiny trees but or

1161
01:13:27,360 --> 01:13:30,599
Speaker 1: or an enemies. But they are alive, and so when

1162
01:13:30,640 --> 01:13:33,680
Speaker 1: they do get peaked on by the starfish they do

1163
01:13:34,320 --> 01:13:37,560
Speaker 1: that does kill the polyps straight up, not having a

1164
01:13:37,600 --> 01:13:43,920
Speaker 1: good time. And and there is a pokemon based on coral.

1165
01:13:44,560 --> 01:13:48,040
Speaker 1: It is called Corsela. It was introduced in the second generation,

1166
01:13:48,120 --> 01:13:50,479
Speaker 1: so it's actually been around for a long time. Um

1167
01:13:51,680 --> 01:13:55,120
Speaker 1: and this plays out in a very interesting way in

1168
01:13:55,600 --> 01:14:00,160
Speaker 1: the games in which Marini intoxic pecks were introduced. Um

1169
01:14:00,320 --> 01:14:02,920
Speaker 1: So in the Sun and Moon games, there is this

1170
01:14:03,280 --> 01:14:06,840
Speaker 1: mechanic called an s O S battle where if you're

1171
01:14:06,840 --> 01:14:09,639
Speaker 1: in a battle with a wild Pokemon and the wild

1172
01:14:09,680 --> 01:14:12,760
Speaker 1: Pokemon has been injured and is running low on health,

1173
01:14:12,920 --> 01:14:16,439
Speaker 1: it may call for help from an ally, so it

1174
01:14:16,600 --> 01:14:19,880
Speaker 1: may you know, call in a buddy to join its

1175
01:14:19,960 --> 01:14:22,800
Speaker 1: team and fight against you. So if you're in a

1176
01:14:22,880 --> 01:14:26,839
Speaker 1: battle with a wild Corsela, which is the coral Pokemon,

1177
01:14:27,479 --> 01:14:29,920
Speaker 1: it may call for help from an ally, which could

1178
01:14:29,960 --> 01:14:33,000
Speaker 1: summon another Corsela, which would then join the battle against

1179
01:14:33,160 --> 01:14:38,920
Speaker 1: you the player. Or sometimes it may alert instead of

1180
01:14:39,040 --> 01:14:42,760
Speaker 1: a of an ally corsela, it alerts a marine, which

1181
01:14:42,880 --> 01:14:48,479
Speaker 1: joins the battle, but it attacks Corsela instead of attacking you.

1182
01:14:49,439 --> 01:14:51,800
Speaker 1: I think that if you attack the Marini, then it

1183
01:14:51,880 --> 01:14:56,640
Speaker 1: will then like attack you in retaliation, but until you

1184
01:14:56,720 --> 01:15:01,439
Speaker 1: attack it, it will attack Corsela instead. So that is,

1185
01:15:01,800 --> 01:15:06,200
Speaker 1: as far as I know, the only like Pokemon interaction

1186
01:15:06,320 --> 01:15:08,240
Speaker 1: in which an s OS battle will like call a

1187
01:15:08,320 --> 01:15:12,120
Speaker 1: hostile Pokemon. Um. But just I think that is just

1188
01:15:12,240 --> 01:15:16,560
Speaker 1: absolutely such an interesting little like nod to ecology in

1189
01:15:16,640 --> 01:15:20,080
Speaker 1: the game of course, Oh no, Corsela isn't trouble. Oh

1190
01:15:20,200 --> 01:15:22,960
Speaker 1: come help me another Corsela. And then a Marina is like, oh,

1191
01:15:23,040 --> 01:15:25,320
Speaker 1: that's my prey. I'm going to join this battle, which

1192
01:15:25,400 --> 01:15:28,200
Speaker 1: I love because that's one of the risks in the

1193
01:15:28,280 --> 01:15:31,519
Speaker 1: Animal Kingdom. Of course, not not necessarily with coral because

1194
01:15:31,560 --> 01:15:35,240
Speaker 1: they don't uh, they don't call to each other necessarily,

1195
01:15:35,400 --> 01:15:38,880
Speaker 1: but like the like when you have an animal who

1196
01:15:39,000 --> 01:15:43,439
Speaker 1: has a call to its conspecifics, that is, other members

1197
01:15:43,479 --> 01:15:47,519
Speaker 1: of its own species, it does risk telling a predator,

1198
01:15:47,640 --> 01:15:51,800
Speaker 1: Hey I'm over here. Yeah, so, and I just think

1199
01:15:51,840 --> 01:15:56,520
Speaker 1: it's like an interesting way to help people like learn ecology,

1200
01:15:56,760 --> 01:15:59,240
Speaker 1: Like oh now I know that like starfish eat coral

1201
01:15:59,400 --> 01:16:01,559
Speaker 1: because I played the game and I saw it happen,

1202
01:16:01,720 --> 01:16:04,519
Speaker 1: you know, Like, I think that's one of the coolest

1203
01:16:04,520 --> 01:16:06,840
Speaker 1: things they did in that game. I love that. I

1204
01:16:06,960 --> 01:16:10,800
Speaker 1: love that so much. Yeah, and and this there's one

1205
01:16:10,800 --> 01:16:14,240
Speaker 1: other way that Marini and toxic Pex in the game

1206
01:16:14,560 --> 01:16:17,080
Speaker 1: mirror like real life Krown of Thorn starfish, and that

1207
01:16:17,320 --> 01:16:22,160
Speaker 1: is that they can have a passive hidden ability, and

1208
01:16:22,240 --> 01:16:26,680
Speaker 1: that's called regenerator restores some of them. So in the

1209
01:16:26,760 --> 01:16:28,679
Speaker 1: game it restores some of their health when they're switched

1210
01:16:28,720 --> 01:16:31,360
Speaker 1: out of battle. Uh. And this is a reference to

1211
01:16:31,560 --> 01:16:34,840
Speaker 1: the crown of thorns starfish is ability to regenerate its

1212
01:16:34,880 --> 01:16:39,120
Speaker 1: own limbs. It's not as easy in real life. It's

1213
01:16:39,120 --> 01:16:42,280
Speaker 1: a while. Yeah, it takes around six months from the

1214
01:16:42,360 --> 01:16:45,439
Speaker 1: times you have sort of this weird baby short limb

1215
01:16:45,479 --> 01:16:48,360
Speaker 1: in the meantime, a little nub of like in the

1216
01:16:48,479 --> 01:16:51,599
Speaker 1: Deadpool movie. Um, where it's like growing the limb back

1217
01:16:51,640 --> 01:16:54,880
Speaker 1: and it's like tiny for a while. Um. But I

1218
01:16:54,920 --> 01:16:58,040
Speaker 1: saw that in some rare cases they have actually bounced

1219
01:16:58,080 --> 01:17:01,000
Speaker 1: back from being cut in half. You can cut the

1220
01:17:01,040 --> 01:17:03,440
Speaker 1: whole starfish in half and they just grow a new starfish.

1221
01:17:04,120 --> 01:17:10,800
Speaker 1: So um. In this this has caused some problems in

1222
01:17:11,160 --> 01:17:14,839
Speaker 1: the situation in which okay, so, in in normal healthy numbers,

1223
01:17:15,360 --> 01:17:18,400
Speaker 1: crown of thorn starfish play really important role in regulating

1224
01:17:18,439 --> 01:17:22,200
Speaker 1: the population of coral to make way for new growth. Um.

1225
01:17:22,600 --> 01:17:25,360
Speaker 1: So it's important to have them around in normal numbers.

1226
01:17:25,400 --> 01:17:28,960
Speaker 1: But in some cases the starfish is population can boom

1227
01:17:29,280 --> 01:17:33,040
Speaker 1: and you have way too many crown of thorn starfish. UM.

1228
01:17:33,280 --> 01:17:36,480
Speaker 1: So this could result from things like overfishing of their predators,

1229
01:17:36,640 --> 01:17:39,000
Speaker 1: like the giant triton is a fish that eats them

1230
01:17:39,040 --> 01:17:41,519
Speaker 1: a lot, so if you over fish the triton, they

1231
01:17:41,600 --> 01:17:44,400
Speaker 1: have fewer predators, there's more starfish. But it can also

1232
01:17:44,479 --> 01:17:47,120
Speaker 1: happen from an excess of nutrients in the water, so

1233
01:17:47,280 --> 01:17:50,320
Speaker 1: farmland can run off into the water, and then starfish

1234
01:17:50,400 --> 01:17:53,360
Speaker 1: larva are like, oh delicious, Yes, lots of nutrients in

1235
01:17:53,439 --> 01:17:55,800
Speaker 1: the water, so then you have more starfish making it

1236
01:17:55,880 --> 01:17:59,360
Speaker 1: into adulthood. Or it could be weakened currents, like with

1237
01:17:59,520 --> 01:18:02,799
Speaker 1: if current change and currents are weaker, they're not pushing

1238
01:18:02,840 --> 01:18:05,760
Speaker 1: the larva around, and then starfish larva get concentrated in

1239
01:18:05,840 --> 01:18:08,920
Speaker 1: a small area. So all of these factors kind of

1240
01:18:09,000 --> 01:18:12,120
Speaker 1: play into these outbreaks of crown of thorne starfish which

1241
01:18:12,200 --> 01:18:16,320
Speaker 1: can actually which can just completely devastate a coral reef.

1242
01:18:16,439 --> 01:18:19,120
Speaker 1: I saw a stat that said they could strip away

1243
01:18:19,200 --> 01:18:23,120
Speaker 1: up to nine of the living coral tissue on a reef,

1244
01:18:23,800 --> 01:18:28,519
Speaker 1: so um, big problem. And then you know, I was

1245
01:18:28,600 --> 01:18:32,240
Speaker 1: reading about how some people have tried to tackle this

1246
01:18:32,439 --> 01:18:36,000
Speaker 1: crown of thorne starfish outbreak, and one of the things

1247
01:18:36,120 --> 01:18:39,840
Speaker 1: that did not work was trying to cut the starfish

1248
01:18:39,880 --> 01:18:43,080
Speaker 1: in half. Tried to cut them in half to kill them,

1249
01:18:43,400 --> 01:18:47,280
Speaker 1: and that just made more of them. So don't try. Yeah,

1250
01:18:47,400 --> 01:18:50,439
Speaker 1: that's kind of the hydress situation, you know, where you're like,

1251
01:18:50,600 --> 01:18:52,680
Speaker 1: I'll chop off this head, and then two more grow

1252
01:18:52,720 --> 01:18:54,519
Speaker 1: and you're like, all right, I'll chop off those heads,

1253
01:18:54,600 --> 01:18:57,880
Speaker 1: and then at a certain point you're like, Hercules, my dude,

1254
01:18:58,160 --> 01:19:02,439
Speaker 1: my poor dummy, my himbo, you gotta stoptop heads. He

1255
01:19:02,560 --> 01:19:07,200
Speaker 1: really was the original. He sent the blueprint, he did

1256
01:19:07,720 --> 01:19:11,400
Speaker 1: the lovable Himbo. So so don't pull the hercules and

1257
01:19:11,520 --> 01:19:16,080
Speaker 1: don't get starfish in half, and take care of the environment.

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01:19:16,280 --> 01:19:20,000
Speaker 1: It's it's delicate. Yeah, that was actually a big theme

1259
01:19:20,240 --> 01:19:24,080
Speaker 1: in like in more recent Pokemon games. There have been

1260
01:19:24,160 --> 01:19:28,879
Speaker 1: some major like ecology like environmentalist themes in the narratives

1261
01:19:28,880 --> 01:19:31,519
Speaker 1: of more recent games like Gen seven and eight. Um

1262
01:19:31,840 --> 01:19:34,840
Speaker 1: like they really went in they even like I didn't

1263
01:19:35,200 --> 01:19:38,559
Speaker 1: compile notes on this, but there are like conflicts between

1264
01:19:38,840 --> 01:19:42,680
Speaker 1: like invasive species because the Moon games were like kind

1265
01:19:42,720 --> 01:19:45,439
Speaker 1: of based on Hawaii, so you see this problem of

1266
01:19:45,560 --> 01:19:50,120
Speaker 1: like invasive species hunting native species. And then like there's

1267
01:19:50,240 --> 01:19:53,920
Speaker 1: like diverse like Pokemon have different forms based on like

1268
01:19:54,080 --> 01:19:58,240
Speaker 1: where they're where they're born. It's so interesting, Like more

1269
01:19:58,280 --> 01:20:02,479
Speaker 1: recent games have gotten so creative and incorporated so many

1270
01:20:02,600 --> 01:20:08,000
Speaker 1: interesting themes of like real life zoology. That is just fascinating.

1271
01:20:08,080 --> 01:20:10,320
Speaker 1: If you really like zoology, I feel like you could

1272
01:20:10,360 --> 01:20:13,519
Speaker 1: go either way, Like having a passion for zoology could

1273
01:20:13,560 --> 01:20:15,720
Speaker 1: get you really into Pokemon, or having a passion for

1274
01:20:15,760 --> 01:20:18,000
Speaker 1: Pokemon could get you really into zoology. I feel like

1275
01:20:18,080 --> 01:20:21,479
Speaker 1: that's just a lot of Pokemon is a gateway drug

1276
01:20:21,680 --> 01:20:24,799
Speaker 1: for zoology, and zoology is a gateway drug for Pokemon.

1277
01:20:25,800 --> 01:20:28,960
Speaker 1: Pokemon is like how biologists like set up a candy

1278
01:20:29,080 --> 01:20:31,800
Speaker 1: van outside of a school where they're like, hey, kids,

1279
01:20:32,120 --> 01:20:38,040
Speaker 1: you want to turn and then when you get close,

1280
01:20:38,120 --> 01:20:41,479
Speaker 1: they kidnap you and take you to a biology teach

1281
01:20:41,600 --> 01:20:48,200
Speaker 1: you knowledge like some kind of sick freak. Oh dare

1282
01:20:48,240 --> 01:20:52,799
Speaker 1: they so? Yeah? I mean I feel like a childhood

1283
01:20:52,840 --> 01:20:56,000
Speaker 1: spent playing Pokemon played an important role in my development

1284
01:20:56,080 --> 01:21:00,439
Speaker 1: for a passion in zoology. And you know this, these

1285
01:21:00,600 --> 01:21:02,640
Speaker 1: I feel like these are just some examples of like

1286
01:21:03,520 --> 01:21:06,800
Speaker 1: what you can actually learn from Pokemon. Yeah, no, I

1287
01:21:07,000 --> 01:21:09,519
Speaker 1: love that. And I feel like this is kind of

1288
01:21:09,800 --> 01:21:13,720
Speaker 1: a coincident or kismet, but an animal that I want

1289
01:21:13,760 --> 01:21:18,040
Speaker 1: to nominate as a pokemon is another marine animal, and

1290
01:21:18,280 --> 01:21:23,400
Speaker 1: it is the conch or or conk or uh sea snail.

1291
01:21:24,600 --> 01:21:29,519
Speaker 1: So you may only know the conch for its beautiful shell,

1292
01:21:30,320 --> 01:21:33,400
Speaker 1: or I guess Lord of the Flies, or I guess

1293
01:21:33,439 --> 01:21:37,920
Speaker 1: that one episode of SpongeBob where they have the talking,

1294
01:21:38,160 --> 01:21:41,519
Speaker 1: magical talking conch shell. Um. But I feel like if

1295
01:21:41,560 --> 01:21:44,920
Speaker 1: you have a decorative shell, it's probably conk shell, right, Yeah,

1296
01:21:45,040 --> 01:21:48,920
Speaker 1: you've seen it. Um. So the shell is very pretty,

1297
01:21:50,160 --> 01:21:53,720
Speaker 1: but in the ocean, it has live animals in it.

1298
01:21:54,040 --> 01:21:59,040
Speaker 1: So conscious are shells of a variety of large sea snails.

1299
01:21:59,240 --> 01:22:02,880
Speaker 1: So the Queen conch has that pretty pink and cream

1300
01:22:02,960 --> 01:22:05,800
Speaker 1: shell that is so famous, But there are many species

1301
01:22:06,479 --> 01:22:10,120
Speaker 1: of sea snails that have these that are called you

1302
01:22:10,160 --> 01:22:15,840
Speaker 1: know consch uh conscious so uh sadly because of those

1303
01:22:15,920 --> 01:22:19,080
Speaker 1: pretty shells, and also because their meat is I guess

1304
01:22:19,120 --> 01:22:23,559
Speaker 1: apparently delicious. Uh, they are often fished and harvested to sell.

1305
01:22:24,280 --> 01:22:29,280
Speaker 1: So um. The problem with taking these animals out of

1306
01:22:29,320 --> 01:22:32,960
Speaker 1: the environment is one you know, any time you hunt

1307
01:22:33,040 --> 01:22:36,720
Speaker 1: or fish something, if you do it to excess, then

1308
01:22:36,880 --> 01:22:40,400
Speaker 1: you can depopulate them. And also these conscious are very

1309
01:22:40,479 --> 01:22:44,280
Speaker 1: important uh in their environments, so they provide a home

1310
01:22:44,720 --> 01:22:48,280
Speaker 1: for a lot of different marine life. So there are

1311
01:22:48,840 --> 01:22:51,639
Speaker 1: I mean, it's obviously the shell is its own home

1312
01:22:52,000 --> 01:22:55,160
Speaker 1: that the sneak sea snail grew all by itself. Um,

1313
01:22:55,280 --> 01:22:58,680
Speaker 1: but it also is a home for other animals like

1314
01:22:58,960 --> 01:23:05,200
Speaker 1: porcelain craw slipper snails and cardinal fish who will cohabitate

1315
01:23:05,360 --> 01:23:08,800
Speaker 1: with the sea snail while it's still alive. And this

1316
01:23:09,200 --> 01:23:13,920
Speaker 1: is a commence a relationship because they neither hurt nor

1317
01:23:14,040 --> 01:23:18,120
Speaker 1: really help the snail. So they're just kind of couch surfing. Uh,

1318
01:23:18,200 --> 01:23:20,920
Speaker 1: they don't pay rent, but you also don't really notice them.

1319
01:23:21,040 --> 01:23:23,559
Speaker 1: So but they also buy their own food, so it's

1320
01:23:23,600 --> 01:23:26,800
Speaker 1: not that big a deal. They're not stealing your resources,

1321
01:23:27,160 --> 01:23:29,920
Speaker 1: you know, not stealing anything, but they're just kind of

1322
01:23:30,000 --> 01:23:34,280
Speaker 1: couch surfing and they clean up after themselves. Um yeah.

1323
01:23:34,479 --> 01:23:38,479
Speaker 1: And then after the conch dies, the snail inside of

1324
01:23:38,560 --> 01:23:42,320
Speaker 1: this shell dies. Their shells can be used by hermit crabs.

1325
01:23:42,400 --> 01:23:45,840
Speaker 1: Even the larger species of conscience can be used by

1326
01:23:46,000 --> 01:23:49,760
Speaker 1: giant hermit crabs. So these shells, while they may look

1327
01:23:49,920 --> 01:23:53,080
Speaker 1: very pretty above your mantle or something, they are actually

1328
01:23:53,160 --> 01:23:57,200
Speaker 1: really important to the environment. So while it doesn't necessarily hurt,

1329
01:23:57,280 --> 01:24:00,080
Speaker 1: like when one person takes a shell, obviously one to

1330
01:24:00,280 --> 01:24:04,400
Speaker 1: have a whole industry, and it's these are being collected

1331
01:24:04,479 --> 01:24:07,519
Speaker 1: for their shells and being bought and sold, and you

1332
01:24:07,600 --> 01:24:12,320
Speaker 1: know that presents a problem. And so even though the

1333
01:24:12,600 --> 01:24:15,920
Speaker 1: queen conch uh that one with that really pretty pink shell,

1334
01:24:16,040 --> 01:24:21,799
Speaker 1: it's not necessarily endangered globally speaking, but in certain areas

1335
01:24:22,000 --> 01:24:25,200
Speaker 1: it is. So that's important. It's significant because when an

1336
01:24:25,240 --> 01:24:29,880
Speaker 1: animal is starting to be threatened in a specific location,

1337
01:24:30,520 --> 01:24:34,599
Speaker 1: that can cause that whole small ecosystem in that area

1338
01:24:35,000 --> 01:24:38,200
Speaker 1: to have problems. So even if it has no like,

1339
01:24:38,320 --> 01:24:41,880
Speaker 1: the conscience's not gonna go extinct necessarily because it's got

1340
01:24:41,960 --> 01:24:46,360
Speaker 1: many different populations. But if that population, uh, you know,

1341
01:24:46,479 --> 01:24:51,040
Speaker 1: goes extinct, then then all these benefits that it provides

1342
01:24:51,160 --> 01:24:54,360
Speaker 1: to other animals in that area, either as shelter or

1343
01:24:54,439 --> 01:24:58,120
Speaker 1: as food, uh, is suddenly lacking. And so other animals

1344
01:24:58,160 --> 01:25:02,160
Speaker 1: in that area may run into two problems. Their populations

1345
01:25:02,200 --> 01:25:06,439
Speaker 1: may even be threatened. Um, so these are very important animals.

1346
01:25:06,560 --> 01:25:10,120
Speaker 1: But that's not even why I'm nominating it as a pokemon.

1347
01:25:10,360 --> 01:25:15,120
Speaker 1: It's because it is so goofy looking. It looks like

1348
01:25:15,240 --> 01:25:20,280
Speaker 1: a cartoon. It's it's the eyes. It's the googly eyes.

1349
01:25:20,439 --> 01:25:23,960
Speaker 1: So these shells have been so long and sort of

1350
01:25:24,120 --> 01:25:27,800
Speaker 1: our consciousness is just these decorative things. You don't even

1351
01:25:27,880 --> 01:25:29,920
Speaker 1: think of it as having a live animal in it,

1352
01:25:30,280 --> 01:25:34,120
Speaker 1: litt alone one with like cartoonish googly picks our eyes.

1353
01:25:34,360 --> 01:25:40,920
Speaker 1: So they have two eyeballs on long eyestalks, and the

1354
01:25:41,080 --> 01:25:47,960
Speaker 1: eyeballs have pupils pupils and colored irises which make them

1355
01:25:48,080 --> 01:25:52,000
Speaker 1: look like, you know, picks our eyeballs. Yeah, they look

1356
01:25:52,160 --> 01:25:56,439
Speaker 1: kind of human like cartoons, which is not something that feels.

1357
01:25:56,800 --> 01:25:59,120
Speaker 1: It feels a little unsettling seeing it come from like

1358
01:25:59,520 --> 01:26:03,920
Speaker 1: a snail with human eyeballs. It's a little uncanny. But

1359
01:26:04,160 --> 01:26:06,280
Speaker 1: I think they kind of pull it off a little

1360
01:26:06,320 --> 01:26:09,960
Speaker 1: bit because like it's so goofy looking. It looks like

1361
01:26:10,080 --> 01:26:12,519
Speaker 1: if you kind of shook it around, which please don't do,

1362
01:26:12,800 --> 01:26:14,799
Speaker 1: but it looks like it would make sort of rattling

1363
01:26:14,920 --> 01:26:18,400
Speaker 1: sound like as these eyeballs walk around. Yeah, but you know,

1364
01:26:18,960 --> 01:26:22,400
Speaker 1: just the most the cute like Gary from SpongeBob, but

1365
01:26:22,520 --> 01:26:26,280
Speaker 1: in real life and sort of different anatomy. So these

1366
01:26:26,360 --> 01:26:29,719
Speaker 1: I stalks are pretty interesting themselves. They have a little

1367
01:26:29,800 --> 01:26:34,599
Speaker 1: sensory tentacle on them below each eye. Um. It also

1368
01:26:34,760 --> 01:26:39,000
Speaker 1: has a long proboscis between the eye stalks where the

1369
01:26:39,120 --> 01:26:42,920
Speaker 1: mouth is located. So we're all about those weird proboscis

1370
01:26:43,080 --> 01:26:45,519
Speaker 1: is on this show today, like the modom Modo turtle

1371
01:26:45,640 --> 01:26:50,560
Speaker 1: that had that. Yeah, I love a proboscis. Uh and

1372
01:26:51,080 --> 01:26:54,160
Speaker 1: uh so they will use this weird long mouth to

1373
01:26:54,400 --> 01:27:00,679
Speaker 1: eat green algae mostly. Um So you can often see

1374
01:27:00,800 --> 01:27:03,720
Speaker 1: these googly eyes just kind of peeking out of the

1375
01:27:03,880 --> 01:27:07,800
Speaker 1: conch shell or even like the whole proboscis ey stock

1376
01:27:07,880 --> 01:27:11,120
Speaker 1: combination kind of poking out. I highly encourage you to

1377
01:27:11,240 --> 01:27:13,840
Speaker 1: look at images of it. I've included those in the

1378
01:27:13,920 --> 01:27:17,479
Speaker 1: show notes stock and you can just google conscience plus

1379
01:27:17,680 --> 01:27:22,240
Speaker 1: eyeballs and you will find so many great results. So,

1380
01:27:22,920 --> 01:27:25,400
Speaker 1: uh it has it's pretty cute. I will think that

1381
01:27:25,600 --> 01:27:28,000
Speaker 1: I'll give it that. It's pretty cute. I've given keys.

1382
01:27:28,439 --> 01:27:31,760
Speaker 1: I mean I wouldn't, but you know, they're like the

1383
01:27:31,840 --> 01:27:33,759
Speaker 1: fact that they look like they're kind of peeking around

1384
01:27:33,800 --> 01:27:37,160
Speaker 1: the corner, and that's why it's cute. It's just like

1385
01:27:37,720 --> 01:27:41,080
Speaker 1: shyly peeking, Yeah, just kind of peeking out of their shell,

1386
01:27:41,280 --> 01:27:43,360
Speaker 1: not too sure if they're going to come out, just

1387
01:27:43,680 --> 01:27:47,799
Speaker 1: scoping out the area. Uh, but yeah, it's it's overall

1388
01:27:47,840 --> 01:27:50,800
Speaker 1: anatomy is kind of weird. So it's got a foot,

1389
01:27:51,080 --> 01:27:54,400
Speaker 1: as snails do, so that that foot is that flat

1390
01:27:55,200 --> 01:27:59,360
Speaker 1: base of the snail, and on the back end of

1391
01:27:59,439 --> 01:28:03,920
Speaker 1: the foot they have a claw called the aperculum, which

1392
01:28:04,680 --> 01:28:09,240
Speaker 1: in terrestrial snails that is flat and hard, and that

1393
01:28:09,520 --> 01:28:12,320
Speaker 1: is used as a trap door to close up the

1394
01:28:12,600 --> 01:28:16,040
Speaker 1: entrance of the snail shell. And this helps seal in

1395
01:28:16,320 --> 01:28:21,920
Speaker 1: moisture because land snails still needs they still need moisture

1396
01:28:22,360 --> 01:28:27,200
Speaker 1: to be able to breathe and function. But uh, when

1397
01:28:27,280 --> 01:28:29,840
Speaker 1: conditions dry out, they can just kind of close this

1398
01:28:29,920 --> 01:28:33,880
Speaker 1: little door on themselves and then keep that inside. But

1399
01:28:34,120 --> 01:28:37,000
Speaker 1: in the cunch snails, it is actually not flat. It

1400
01:28:37,200 --> 01:28:40,720
Speaker 1: is talent like it looks like a big claw, and

1401
01:28:41,439 --> 01:28:45,480
Speaker 1: despite it looking like a claw, it's actually not used aggressively.

1402
01:28:45,760 --> 01:28:50,000
Speaker 1: It is used for locomotion for this punch to move around,

1403
01:28:50,479 --> 01:28:54,840
Speaker 1: so it digs the talon into the sand and that

1404
01:28:55,000 --> 01:28:57,880
Speaker 1: anchors the snail so it can basically thrust the rest

1405
01:28:57,960 --> 01:29:01,639
Speaker 1: of itself forward, so it's basically whole vaulting around every

1406
01:29:01,720 --> 01:29:05,800
Speaker 1: time it walk. So grappling hook sort of thing, Yeah,

1407
01:29:06,080 --> 01:29:08,760
Speaker 1: like a grappling hook but backwards, because it's like it

1408
01:29:09,200 --> 01:29:11,679
Speaker 1: puts it behind it and then uses it to throw

1409
01:29:11,760 --> 01:29:16,759
Speaker 1: itself forward like backwards ice pick climbing, which sounds very difficult,

1410
01:29:19,520 --> 01:29:24,280
Speaker 1: like a like ski poles live in Florida. I'm sorry,

1411
01:29:24,280 --> 01:29:29,719
Speaker 1: I don't know ski terminology to push yourself into. Yeah, exactly, Yeah,

1412
01:29:30,040 --> 01:29:33,080
Speaker 1: now that that's that's right. Um, that's how that's how

1413
01:29:33,120 --> 01:29:38,679
Speaker 1: skiing does it. Yeah. Or if you're like me, holding

1414
01:29:38,720 --> 01:29:42,080
Speaker 1: them awkwardly as you as you whimper softly going down

1415
01:29:42,120 --> 01:29:46,960
Speaker 1: a bunny slope, its thought that they do this really

1416
01:29:47,120 --> 01:29:50,519
Speaker 1: weird locomotion to make it harder for the counch to

1417
01:29:50,560 --> 01:29:53,679
Speaker 1: be tracked by prey because they're not leaving like a trail.

1418
01:29:54,200 --> 01:29:57,320
Speaker 1: They might be leaving weird like indentations, but they're not

1419
01:29:57,439 --> 01:30:00,719
Speaker 1: leaving like a chemical trail of slime or goo or anything,

1420
01:30:00,920 --> 01:30:05,599
Speaker 1: so it's they're untrackable, like the Jason Bourne of weird

1421
01:30:05,680 --> 01:30:09,400
Speaker 1: goofy animals. You know. Snails are known for being super stealthy,

1422
01:30:12,320 --> 01:30:14,920
Speaker 1: especially this one just thumping its way through the sand

1423
01:30:15,040 --> 01:30:21,479
Speaker 1: pole vaulting around so unlike many other snails, conscious are

1424
01:30:21,560 --> 01:30:26,679
Speaker 1: actually gonna achoristic, meaning that they are either female or male.

1425
01:30:27,320 --> 01:30:30,600
Speaker 1: In contrast, a lot of snails are hermaphroditic, meaning that

1426
01:30:30,760 --> 01:30:35,080
Speaker 1: each individual is both male or and female at the

1427
01:30:35,160 --> 01:30:38,839
Speaker 1: same time. It's a little different there. And the penis

1428
01:30:39,040 --> 01:30:42,200
Speaker 1: of the male conscience is this weird little tentacle with

1429
01:30:42,360 --> 01:30:46,719
Speaker 1: a leaflike protrusion on the end, so, you know, just strange,

1430
01:30:47,120 --> 01:30:52,000
Speaker 1: interesting all around top to the bottom. It's a weird guy. Yeah.

1431
01:30:52,320 --> 01:30:55,439
Speaker 1: And while I was talking about the queen conscience earlier,

1432
01:30:55,560 --> 01:30:59,080
Speaker 1: this general anatomy is also true of other species of

1433
01:30:59,160 --> 01:31:03,759
Speaker 1: conchi snail who also have the lovely little googly eyes

1434
01:31:04,000 --> 01:31:08,280
Speaker 1: and weird long snouts. They're all very adorable looking, and

1435
01:31:08,400 --> 01:31:12,240
Speaker 1: they all have very different, beautiful, beautiful shells, which I think,

1436
01:31:12,640 --> 01:31:16,640
Speaker 1: uh kind of gives you a lot of material to

1437
01:31:16,720 --> 01:31:19,760
Speaker 1: work with for a Pokemon, because you can have a

1438
01:31:19,960 --> 01:31:25,840
Speaker 1: shiny version, different versions of these lovely, lovely pokemons. And

1439
01:31:25,920 --> 01:31:29,439
Speaker 1: they could also host like smaller Pokemon inside their shells,

1440
01:31:29,520 --> 01:31:32,120
Speaker 1: because that happens in nature too. You know, you could

1441
01:31:32,200 --> 01:31:35,840
Speaker 1: summon a Pokemon from inside of its shell, some kind

1442
01:31:35,880 --> 01:31:38,680
Speaker 1: of crab like Pokemon. Yeah, maybe it would have a

1443
01:31:38,760 --> 01:31:42,080
Speaker 1: mega evolution where something else pops out and like to

1444
01:31:42,240 --> 01:31:45,720
Speaker 1: Pokemon exactly. And it also it comes with its own

1445
01:31:45,800 --> 01:31:49,439
Speaker 1: poke ball. Oh my gosh, yeah, you're right, it does.

1446
01:31:49,600 --> 01:31:51,799
Speaker 1: Can you imagine just throwing a conk shell into battle?

1447
01:31:51,920 --> 01:31:55,920
Speaker 1: Like I choose you picks Pisa, It's little eyeball down,

1448
01:31:55,920 --> 01:32:01,200
Speaker 1: It's like, no, thank you. But yeah, know, even though

1449
01:32:01,240 --> 01:32:04,360
Speaker 1: its claw is not really used aggressively, it's used for

1450
01:32:04,600 --> 01:32:06,720
Speaker 1: moving around. I don't see why I couldn't use it

1451
01:32:06,800 --> 01:32:09,120
Speaker 1: to like slap around Pikachu, you know what I mean.

1452
01:32:10,000 --> 01:32:13,840
Speaker 1: Certainly potential there, I know that, like, especially because like

1453
01:32:13,920 --> 01:32:16,799
Speaker 1: when you're designing a Pokemon, you're already taking some artistic

1454
01:32:16,880 --> 01:32:21,320
Speaker 1: liberties with like actual animal anatomy, so you might as

1455
01:32:21,400 --> 01:32:24,200
Speaker 1: well just give it like a giant combat claw, like

1456
01:32:24,320 --> 01:32:29,840
Speaker 1: it's right there, Yeah, exactly, I do. But I do

1457
01:32:30,040 --> 01:32:31,800
Speaker 1: feel like this, if if you were to make a

1458
01:32:31,840 --> 01:32:34,679
Speaker 1: Pokemon out of a conk, I feel like it would

1459
01:32:34,680 --> 01:32:36,479
Speaker 1: be more of it would play more of a tank

1460
01:32:36,680 --> 01:32:39,280
Speaker 1: role in the team, where it would probably be like

1461
01:32:39,640 --> 01:32:43,160
Speaker 1: very high defense, very low speed. It's more for like

1462
01:32:43,360 --> 01:32:46,560
Speaker 1: taking Like it's more for like absorbing damage and like

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01:32:46,720 --> 01:32:49,920
Speaker 1: taking a lot of hits, right, Because I feel like

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01:32:50,000 --> 01:32:53,240
Speaker 1: it would probably be very withdrawn into its shell, So

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01:32:54,320 --> 01:32:57,200
Speaker 1: I think it would probably be like a high defense,

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01:32:57,320 --> 01:33:01,200
Speaker 1: high HP, maybe low attack and low speed. I feel

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01:33:01,200 --> 01:33:03,360
Speaker 1: like that would maybe be the spread you're you're looking at,

1468
01:33:03,600 --> 01:33:06,400
Speaker 1: like the stat spread you're looking at for a conk Pokemon. Yeah,

1469
01:33:06,640 --> 01:33:09,200
Speaker 1: and it could have an attack called like hard stare,

1470
01:33:09,360 --> 01:33:11,640
Speaker 1: where it just like pokes its eyeballs out of its

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01:33:11,720 --> 01:33:15,200
Speaker 1: shell and makes the enemy feel really bad about attacking

1472
01:33:15,280 --> 01:33:19,280
Speaker 1: at Yeah, there are quite a few like creepy stair

1473
01:33:19,360 --> 01:33:23,439
Speaker 1: based Pokemon moves. There's mean look, um, which I believe

1474
01:33:23,560 --> 01:33:25,719
Speaker 1: prevents you from being able to switch out of battle.

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01:33:26,320 --> 01:33:29,080
Speaker 1: I think there's a move called glare. I don't remember

1476
01:33:29,120 --> 01:33:33,000
Speaker 1: what it's called stink I there might as well be.

1477
01:33:34,920 --> 01:33:41,200
Speaker 1: I'm already like crafting this Pokemon's move set in Well, uh,

1478
01:33:42,280 --> 01:33:47,000
Speaker 1: we we cannot rewrite the we we cannot create a

1479
01:33:47,320 --> 01:33:52,960
Speaker 1: new Pokemon game just yet. Um, because before we go,

1480
01:33:53,520 --> 01:33:57,800
Speaker 1: we have to play a game. Um guess who's squawking

1481
01:33:58,400 --> 01:34:03,040
Speaker 1: the mystery animal sound game? So first I will reveal

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01:34:03,280 --> 01:34:07,360
Speaker 1: the answer to last week's mystery squawker. So, just as

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01:34:07,400 --> 01:34:11,479
Speaker 1: a refresher, here was the hint. It may be related

1484
01:34:11,560 --> 01:34:14,680
Speaker 1: to an elephant. But you're in for a surprise when

1485
01:34:14,760 --> 01:34:17,760
Speaker 1: you see who's saying hello. So I will play this

1486
01:34:18,000 --> 01:34:30,240
Speaker 1: sound now kind of sounds like a peculiar sound, like

1487
01:34:30,360 --> 01:34:33,879
Speaker 1: a little little like he's saying hello, but really angrily.

1488
01:34:34,880 --> 01:34:41,600
Speaker 1: It sounds like he's coughing. Hmm. Do I get to

1489
01:34:41,680 --> 01:34:43,960
Speaker 1: take a guess? Yeah, take a guess, go for it.

1490
01:34:44,439 --> 01:34:49,360
Speaker 1: Was that a higher rax? Yes, it was. Congratulations Ellen,

1491
01:34:49,439 --> 01:34:53,880
Speaker 1: and I did it. You did in Congratulations to Auntie B,

1492
01:34:54,600 --> 01:34:58,240
Speaker 1: sarah In and Houl guests from Twitter who also correctly

1493
01:34:58,360 --> 01:35:03,080
Speaker 1: guessed hierax. Amazing animal detective work, guys. So this is

1494
01:35:03,160 --> 01:35:07,720
Speaker 1: a rock hix. So rock hiraxes may look like overgrown

1495
01:35:07,840 --> 01:35:10,880
Speaker 1: gophers or some kind of cat sized rodent, but they

1496
01:35:10,920 --> 01:35:14,600
Speaker 1: are actually in the same clade as elephants, wooly mammoths,

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01:35:14,720 --> 01:35:18,720
Speaker 1: and manatees. So what's interesting is I actually did get

1498
01:35:18,840 --> 01:35:22,240
Speaker 1: some gisses about manatees, which is very smart, guests, because

1499
01:35:22,320 --> 01:35:26,240
Speaker 1: they are also related to elephants, and they also make noises.

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01:35:26,360 --> 01:35:29,639
Speaker 1: But these are the kinds of sounds that manatees make.

1501
01:35:34,840 --> 01:35:43,960
Speaker 1: There's also these kinds of sounds. All right, I think

1502
01:35:44,000 --> 01:35:46,880
Speaker 1: I kind of enough weird noises. So they make a

1503
01:35:46,960 --> 01:35:51,439
Speaker 1: bunch of weird noises under the water. To a Florida

1504
01:35:51,479 --> 01:35:55,880
Speaker 1: girls ears, Yes, they communicate squeaks, chirps, and grunts and farts,

1505
01:35:56,640 --> 01:36:00,640
Speaker 1: so not a bad guess at all, but in this

1506
01:36:00,800 --> 01:36:04,840
Speaker 1: case it was a rock hierax. So rock hiras is

1507
01:36:04,920 --> 01:36:07,960
Speaker 1: also have a variety of sounds they make. That barking

1508
01:36:08,080 --> 01:36:10,880
Speaker 1: grunt that we heard that sounded like a cough or

1509
01:36:11,080 --> 01:36:14,599
Speaker 1: some kind of weird angry hello was probably a warning

1510
01:36:14,680 --> 01:36:18,040
Speaker 1: that he's a tough guy and he will not tolerate

1511
01:36:18,120 --> 01:36:22,479
Speaker 1: any nonsense. Another common sound is a shriek they make

1512
01:36:22,680 --> 01:36:27,880
Speaker 1: that sounds very chilling, but it is actually, uh surprisingly innocuous.

1513
01:36:31,240 --> 01:36:34,719
Speaker 1: Sounds kind of like a cross between a blood curdling

1514
01:36:34,840 --> 01:36:37,439
Speaker 1: scream and air being slowly lit out of a balloon.

1515
01:36:38,040 --> 01:36:42,400
Speaker 1: I was thinking it sounds like your tea's ready does

1516
01:36:42,479 --> 01:36:46,120
Speaker 1: a little bit, doesn't it. But this is used by

1517
01:36:46,160 --> 01:36:49,280
Speaker 1: the hot rock hiracks to communicate with other hiras Is

1518
01:36:49,400 --> 01:36:53,360
Speaker 1: about their location. So a little bit of info about

1519
01:36:53,400 --> 01:36:56,320
Speaker 1: the rock hiras. They live in rocky regions in Africa

1520
01:36:56,439 --> 01:36:59,240
Speaker 1: and the Middle East. They are herbivores and they can

1521
01:36:59,320 --> 01:37:02,960
Speaker 1: eat plants that are deadly to us, like nightshade. They

1522
01:37:03,000 --> 01:37:06,200
Speaker 1: are highly social and can live in colonies as small

1523
01:37:06,280 --> 01:37:11,120
Speaker 1: as five individuals or up to eighty individuals, and there

1524
01:37:11,200 --> 01:37:15,600
Speaker 1: are different species of higher axes that can live together communally,

1525
01:37:15,760 --> 01:37:19,439
Speaker 1: so there are rock and bush hier axes too similar

1526
01:37:19,960 --> 01:37:23,840
Speaker 1: but different species that can coexist in the same colonies.

1527
01:37:23,920 --> 01:37:27,519
Speaker 1: They'll even cuddle with each other. Uh, And cuddling is

1528
01:37:27,640 --> 01:37:31,840
Speaker 1: very important because they actually don't thermoregulate as well as

1529
01:37:32,000 --> 01:37:35,120
Speaker 1: other mammals, and they need the warmth of the sun

1530
01:37:35,400 --> 01:37:39,519
Speaker 1: or other cuddly little higher ax bodies to keep their

1531
01:37:39,600 --> 01:37:42,680
Speaker 1: bodies at a good temperature. So sometimes you'll just have

1532
01:37:42,840 --> 01:37:46,000
Speaker 1: these piles of higher axes cuddling in the sun. It's

1533
01:37:46,040 --> 01:37:51,559
Speaker 1: adorable and a little hint that they are indeed related

1534
01:37:51,600 --> 01:37:55,080
Speaker 1: to elephants distantly, but uh, they are still in the

1535
01:37:55,200 --> 01:37:58,640
Speaker 1: same clade is that their front incisors are long and

1536
01:37:58,800 --> 01:38:01,479
Speaker 1: pointy and kind of tusk like, so you can't see

1537
01:38:01,520 --> 01:38:03,800
Speaker 1: it when their mouths are closed, but when they open

1538
01:38:03,880 --> 01:38:07,400
Speaker 1: their mouths, you see these little tiny tusks, and it

1539
01:38:08,120 --> 01:38:09,680
Speaker 1: it gives you a clue of how they share a

1540
01:38:09,760 --> 01:38:13,360
Speaker 1: common ancestor with elephants. So you grow out those tusks,

1541
01:38:13,479 --> 01:38:16,599
Speaker 1: you give them a longer snoot, bigger feet, stretch out

1542
01:38:16,640 --> 01:38:19,880
Speaker 1: their ears, lose that fur, and maybe gain about six

1543
01:38:20,040 --> 01:38:23,840
Speaker 1: tons and you hide yourself an elephant. Baby, you've got

1544
01:38:23,920 --> 01:38:27,240
Speaker 1: an elephant going there you go and so yes, So

1545
01:38:27,400 --> 01:38:31,160
Speaker 1: that is the story of the higher ecks. Congratulations everyone

1546
01:38:31,240 --> 01:38:36,120
Speaker 1: on their great guesses. So onto this week's mystery animal sound.

1547
01:38:36,800 --> 01:38:40,280
Speaker 1: This bald beauty is found in the forests north of

1548
01:38:40,360 --> 01:38:44,880
Speaker 1: the Amazon River. It's named for its friar like appearance.

1549
01:38:45,040 --> 01:38:49,240
Speaker 1: But don't confuse them for another monk like animal, because

1550
01:38:49,320 --> 01:39:01,920
Speaker 1: this mystery squawker is not monkeying around. Huh. This is

1551
01:39:01,960 --> 01:39:07,280
Speaker 1: a tough one, very weird sound. Um. I don't really

1552
01:39:07,360 --> 01:39:13,679
Speaker 1: have any great guesses. It sounds like a bird to me. Honestly,

1553
01:39:13,840 --> 01:39:17,479
Speaker 1: if you just completely ignoring the clues that you gave,

1554
01:39:19,640 --> 01:39:22,560
Speaker 1: but just based purely on the sound it makes it

1555
01:39:22,680 --> 01:39:26,640
Speaker 1: sounds to me like a poe too. Hmm. Interesting, like

1556
01:39:26,760 --> 01:39:30,320
Speaker 1: the poe too bird, which does not fit with any

1557
01:39:30,400 --> 01:39:32,960
Speaker 1: of the clues that you gave. Tragically. Um, so I

1558
01:39:33,000 --> 01:39:35,719
Speaker 1: don't think that's it, but that is what it sounds

1559
01:39:35,800 --> 01:39:39,320
Speaker 1: like to me. Is a po to? It is not,

1560
01:39:40,479 --> 01:39:42,519
Speaker 1: I'll tell you that much. That's I guess. That's another

1561
01:39:42,600 --> 01:39:44,439
Speaker 1: hint for everyone. It is not a po to, not

1562
01:39:44,640 --> 01:39:48,519
Speaker 1: po too. But the answer to this week's mry animals

1563
01:39:48,720 --> 01:39:55,000
Speaker 1: sound will be resolved in dramatic a dramatic conclusion next

1564
01:39:55,200 --> 01:40:00,559
Speaker 1: Wednesday on the next episode of Creature Feature. And thank

1565
01:40:00,640 --> 01:40:03,280
Speaker 1: you so much for joining me today. It was a

1566
01:40:03,400 --> 01:40:06,559
Speaker 1: real treat having you on the show. Tell folks where

1567
01:40:06,640 --> 01:40:11,080
Speaker 1: they can hear hear more from you about animals, of course. Yeah,

1568
01:40:11,120 --> 01:40:13,000
Speaker 1: I think. First of all, thank you so much, Katie.

1569
01:40:13,080 --> 01:40:15,800
Speaker 1: This has been so much fun. I really love y'all show,

1570
01:40:15,880 --> 01:40:19,439
Speaker 1: so it's been really get to actually be on it.

1571
01:40:19,560 --> 01:40:23,400
Speaker 1: This is so exciting. Um. Like you mentioned earlier, our

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01:40:23,439 --> 01:40:26,760
Speaker 1: podcast is called Just the Zoo of Us. Sometimes I

1573
01:40:26,840 --> 01:40:29,400
Speaker 1: do episodes with my husband, but sometimes we bring on

1574
01:40:29,880 --> 01:40:33,479
Speaker 1: guests who may be scientists or researchers or zookeepers or

1575
01:40:33,520 --> 01:40:37,680
Speaker 1: people that are experts in animals. And what we do

1576
01:40:37,880 --> 01:40:40,080
Speaker 1: is we review animals by rating them out of ten

1577
01:40:40,479 --> 01:40:45,760
Speaker 1: in different categories being effectiveness, ingenuity, and aesthetics. Um, that

1578
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Speaker 1: sounds cool to you. Come check us out where on

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1581
01:40:56,479 --> 01:40:58,960
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01:40:59,000 --> 01:41:01,639
Speaker 1: you can listen to us and the other Maximum bun shows.

1583
01:41:01,880 --> 01:41:05,080
Speaker 1: So that's where you can find us. Thank you guys

1584
01:41:05,200 --> 01:41:07,960
Speaker 1: so much for joining me today. If you think you

1585
01:41:08,040 --> 01:41:11,120
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1586
01:41:11,240 --> 01:41:13,599
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1590
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