Speaker 1: Look man, oh, I see you my bow and look
Speaker 1: over there. How is that culture? Yes, goodness, culture calling.
Speaker 1: This is Matt Podcast and we'll be talking facts. Everyone
Speaker 1: out there listening. We're gonna get to some facts. So
Speaker 1: let's get the facts. I am uncomfortable around human beings.
Speaker 1: I don't trust human beings. So I just butchered Mary
Speaker 1: m Cosby's podcasting debut, which was documented on the premiere
Speaker 1: of the Real House as a Salt Lake City, but
Speaker 1: one of the startling episode the audio itself is not released.
Speaker 1: See and this is the thing? Is I thought? So
Speaker 1: I was actually and this is like behind the current
Speaker 1: of the entertainment industry. I was able to see the
Speaker 1: episode a couple weeks ago a friend, Samuel Link and
Speaker 1: this happens. I'm blessed to have many friends. You are.
Speaker 1: How does it feel? It feels incredible. I have many
Speaker 1: secrets about the entertainment for you that I could reveal,
Speaker 1: but they would get me into trouble with high people.
Speaker 1: Hi people, how many girl? I'm not enough girl? Um? Anyway,
Speaker 1: we we What was I saying? We're so tired? We're
Speaker 1: so tired. Okay, readers, publicists, because it's where you're still publicists,
Speaker 1: still season. We're very tired. We're coming out. You were
Speaker 1: happy to be here, but you just have to level
Speaker 1: with it. We're gonna level with you and you get
Speaker 1: on our level. We're tired, but that's okay, that's okay.
Speaker 1: This is the last week of the Fire Island movie. Yes,
Speaker 1: and just know that it is going to be the
Speaker 1: great film of our time. It's going to be. Um,
Speaker 1: it's definitely going to lead the Oscars. I'm not kidding
Speaker 1: when I say that Matt Rogers don't really don't go
Speaker 1: right now, let me let me go and then I'll go.
Speaker 1: Matt Rodgers delivers maybe the most balanced performance in the
Speaker 1: entire You have to stop you. You're getting pure broad
Speaker 1: common a physical comedy, smart, incisive comedy about the culture.
Speaker 1: And that is what Kay Austin did best. And you're
Speaker 1: giving really beautiful emotional performance. Thank you for saying that
Speaker 1: I'm doing well in the film. I have to return
Speaker 1: the compliment. I truly do. I have to say that
Speaker 1: I have just I'm gonna go. I'm going there. Um.
Speaker 1: I have yet again been impressed by bow and Yanks
Speaker 1: gives his talents and how he goes to I mean
Speaker 1: there is a scene in the film, and we can
Speaker 1: say it's a romantic comedy. So there is a scene
Speaker 1: and Bowen is one of the leads of the film,
Speaker 1: so there is a scene where he is receiving is
Speaker 1: receiving love and I was standing on a boat. But
Speaker 1: I was standing on a boat watching this happen, and
Speaker 1: I was like, Sandra Bullet. It was the Sandra Bullock
Speaker 1: school of receiving. Remember the scene, and this is one
Speaker 1: of my favorites. Let's talk romance comedies. First. The Proposal. Yes,
Speaker 1: the last thing in the Proposal just famous for two reasons,
Speaker 1: one and iconic. Clearly clearly reshoots one of the biggest
Speaker 1: continuity errors of all time. Her hair was it was
Speaker 1: a different head. She had gone through a full head
Speaker 1: and did revert back to the original, Yes, it did.
Speaker 1: It was like she turns around, She's like what what
Speaker 1: now the readers have seen it, because I have seen it,
Speaker 1: because we've said she turns around and she's like what what.
Speaker 1: She's like barking orders and then Ryan Royn was there
Speaker 1: and she goes He's like, hey, I came here to
Speaker 1: see you. And it comes back to her and she's
Speaker 1: like Andrew and she's a different person, different different different things. Clearly,
Speaker 1: they brought her head ringer back six months later to
Speaker 1: do reshoots. But it's also famous for me because Sandra,
Speaker 1: I don't really know what to say about what she does,
Speaker 1: but she's doing this. She is receiving the information of
Speaker 1: I love you and I want to be with you
Speaker 1: from Ryan Reynolds, and it's so you are the audience
Speaker 1: with her right there. You're receiving it too. And I
Speaker 1: was watching you and I was like, my god. And
Speaker 1: this is not spoilers because people know this story of
Speaker 1: parton Prejudice. Okay, Jane Wins it is. It is my yes, yes,
Speaker 1: a thousand times yes. The moment, it is truly gorge
Speaker 1: and I'm so excited for it. And also, I mean
Speaker 1: we're just so suffice to say we have a busy well,
Speaker 1: let's just say this has a busy weekend. Next weekend
Speaker 1: he's going to the Emmy Awards and it's all gonna
Speaker 1: go down. Oh my god. No, I'm ready to just
Speaker 1: have fun. I've been like on my just grind all
Speaker 1: summer and not. And I'm not bragging about I'm just
Speaker 1: saying like I'm like, you've been raal, like, oh, this
Speaker 1: is supposed to be the summer that I like recharged,
Speaker 1: and I didn't do I was on the campaign trail.
Speaker 1: It was that it was let's just this is just
Speaker 1: a peek behind the curtain. Okay, I'm so lucky, yes,
Speaker 1: and yeah, I am like constantly caught in this you know,
Speaker 1: fun little cycle of when you're doing press for one show,
Speaker 1: you're doing press for another show, and then you're you're
Speaker 1: shooting one thing and you're shooting another, and then you're
Speaker 1: shooting a nut. So whatever this set this sounds, this
Speaker 1: potentially could come off as so ungrateful, but it's just
Speaker 1: it's still it's still labor, you know, it's it's and
Speaker 1: so and and I should say that Matt and I
Speaker 1: both stand in solidarity, solidarity with our I A T. S. Brethren, absolutely,
Speaker 1: and it is work for everybody. And at least at
Speaker 1: least I'm not in a place where I am so
Speaker 1: emotionally exhausted on top of being like just so so
Speaker 1: deeply mistreated in some Oh my god, no, let it
Speaker 1: be known that Matt Rodgers are union girls. We we
Speaker 1: stand with the union, and we are pro strike if
Speaker 1: it comes to that, absolutely, because people need to be
Speaker 1: treated and for those who are not aware, you know,
Speaker 1: this is about crew members being treated fairly. You know,
Speaker 1: we just need to make sure the wages are so
Speaker 1: much better than they currently are. They need to be
Speaker 1: contracts need to be updated so that streamers are not
Speaker 1: considered new media anymore. Absolutely, and also the hours, you know,
Speaker 1: it gets crazy and people are asked to be People
Speaker 1: are worked to the bone in this industry and we're
Speaker 1: seeing it on our production. I mean, we love everybody
Speaker 1: working in the crew. They are having to ferry in
Speaker 1: like every single day, like it's this is incredibly difficult,
Speaker 1: very difficult, and to think that and and you know
Speaker 1: our set has been a happy one and but to
Speaker 1: know that that is not the case. You know, industry wide,
Speaker 1: you know we are in support. But the reason I
Speaker 1: bring that up is because we are going to take
Speaker 1: next week off. We're taking next week off, so how
Speaker 1: us this let that be a moment of respite for
Speaker 1: you to really start to strategically campaign for your categories.
Speaker 1: We'll talk about the awards and it's not yes, darl
Speaker 1: and so we're gonna get to the awards, but we're
Speaker 1: taking next week off because we're gonna wrap up the movie.
Speaker 1: Bone is gonna go either win or not win an Emmy,
Speaker 1: and both will be fine, and then we're gonna regroup
Speaker 1: and we'll be back. But I've made by the way,
Speaker 1: I've just made peace with the outcome that I'm pretty
Speaker 1: sure will happen and Breed Goldstein sure. When I was
Speaker 1: thinking about it, I was like, you know that, And
Speaker 1: I know you don't love to talk about the awards, um,
Speaker 1: but I was like, you know, they really did that
Speaker 1: thing again where they nominated three shows, three shows, and
Speaker 1: then what will probably happen is one show will sweep
Speaker 1: the entire blessed God bless and you know, God, God blessed.
Speaker 1: But um, anyway, I'm obviously insanely proud of you either way,
Speaker 1: and I have seen the gifts be given on the film,
Speaker 1: and this is what I was saying. You were truly
Speaker 1: receiving the the you were just were giving me actress,
Speaker 1: you were giving me start this podcast. We have to
Speaker 1: say that that that when we get the opportunity to
Speaker 1: to to be star actress, if we had not come
Speaker 1: through on both, that would have been humility, my sister.
Speaker 1: You have been both the entire time. Mom, I look
Speaker 1: at me, Mom, you are so fucking talented. It's crazy.
Speaker 1: It makes me, It makes me. I have a note
Speaker 1: prepared for you for my little rap gifts. But I
Speaker 1: be and Yang is Bell, and Yang actually came back
Speaker 1: from he he took a ferry out to sort of
Speaker 1: get his rap gifts together, came back with these bags, Darling. Darling,
Speaker 1: And I'm not going not saying there were bass. There
Speaker 1: are bags with gifts anyway. Okay, So, so well, what
Speaker 1: I want to say is we because I'm gonna be
Speaker 1: able to have the opportunity to do a right up
Speaker 1: right after the rap thing. This has been such an
Speaker 1: amazing experience and it's been ups and downs because the
Speaker 1: subject matter has been what it's emotional, yes, but the
Speaker 1: crew has been unbelievable. And when the movie is going
Speaker 1: to come out next year, we don't know when, but
Speaker 1: it will be out on Hulu next year. We definitely
Speaker 1: will be having people from the movie on and just
Speaker 1: it's gonna be so exciting to share this with everyone truly. Um,
Speaker 1: so thank you for understanding in advance and the way
Speaker 1: you understood way you understands talking facts with Matt and Bowen. Okay,
Speaker 1: so uh what was I gonna say, Oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: this is I mean, you could you could say that
Speaker 1: we are potentially really checking the entertainment industry circle jerk
Speaker 1: part of that worst insult towards this nominee, the Apple podcast. Yeah,
Speaker 1: entertainment industry circle. First of all, can we just say,
Speaker 1: out of all the out of all the nominations, it
Speaker 1: was so thrilling to watch them come in and see
Speaker 1: that Wendy Williams is now leading nominations. Is that as
Speaker 1: many as Titanic or Returnity. The King had the Titanic
Speaker 1: at fourteen Oscar nominations. But that doesn't mean that we
Speaker 1: can't call the Wendy Williams Titanic. She is the Titanic
Speaker 1: of the Lost Cultures Cultural Award. Do you think we'll
Speaker 1: do this again next year? I don't. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know, because here's the thing.
Speaker 1: It was very Lost Cultures Culture Awards. But then you'll
Speaker 1: find that there were nominees from years ago, even though
Speaker 1: the categor stories. Some categories specifically say blank of the
Speaker 1: year of the year of the year, like no record,
Speaker 1: perfect rules, record of the year. All I want for
Speaker 1: Christmas is you was nominated, and that was famously came
Speaker 1: out many years ago, but it is a record of
Speaker 1: this year's nominations. It's a nomination. So the thing is like,
Speaker 1: will there be one next year? I say, watched the Space,
Speaker 1: watched the Space. But awards are a lot of the
Speaker 1: many of them are annual, many awards its actually really
Speaker 1: culture number six awards. Many of them are actual and
Speaker 1: we just can't say. We just can't say, but but
Speaker 1: you know, I watched this space. Um, what was your
Speaker 1: favorite nominations that you saw roll in on nomination morning
Speaker 1: when Matt Rogerson Boone Yang announced them. I mean, there's
Speaker 1: so many we're not we should say we're not looking
Speaker 1: at them. So this is truly like off the top
Speaker 1: of our heads, I mean, best best animals, best best
Speaker 1: animal in the forest, in the forest I thought, I
Speaker 1: thought creatures on non early front run or for best
Speaker 1: animal on the forest, because that is one of the
Speaker 1: most spooky things. It's one of the most distinctive things
Speaker 1: about the forest, which is the creatures. I mean, there's
Speaker 1: very much that thing of when you're in the forest
Speaker 1: and you're wrestling and you go, what was that? What
Speaker 1: was that? What was that? What was that James James,
Speaker 1: But yeah, should we say our brains are full? It's
Speaker 1: giving broken bread because all this cast does to each
Speaker 1: other is just quote and repeat the same fucking ship
Speaker 1: over and over again, which is mostly when Dy Williams
Speaker 1: moments Son Tiffany Polar moments, Um, you know, we'll do
Speaker 1: it runs the game, will like to recite Miranda Priestley lines. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean really, it's just can you imagine if there
Speaker 1: was even one heterosexual actor on this crept? This is
Speaker 1: my thing is, It's like I can't just believe. I
Speaker 1: can't even believe they do movies where straight people play
Speaker 1: gay people. I'm like, how do you do it? Like
Speaker 1: the the It can't I'm saying it can't be that.
Speaker 1: I guarantee you it is. It has not been that
Speaker 1: enjoyable for a straight actor to play a gay person.
Speaker 1: How do you plug into like what it is actually
Speaker 1: like to like to walk around and be gay and
Speaker 1: have a gay brain and think all these stupid fucking thoughts.
Speaker 1: I mean this, this actually reminds me of Okay, So
Speaker 1: the other the other day, we were doing a scene
Speaker 1: where we all are lugging our stuff down the road,
Speaker 1: down the road, down like the bridge to get to
Speaker 1: our house and we're like, oh, the house is so
Speaker 1: far whatever, and these gays walked by and judge us,
Speaker 1: and one of the extras was a straight man love him,
Speaker 1: we love the well, I'm just saying he's a he's
Speaker 1: an icon, but I think he got the note like, um,
Speaker 1: so you're a gay man and you guys like a
Speaker 1: catty gay guys and you're judging them. So he walks by,
Speaker 1: and when I tell you, he gave us his whole
Speaker 1: life when he was judging us, and so so deeply
Speaker 1: funny and such a brutal, brutal, brutal portrayal of a
Speaker 1: gay perfect a gay judger. And then Andrew On the director,
Speaker 1: blasted blast his heart was like, hey, whatever's going on
Speaker 1: with the risk probably just turned that down but otherwise good.
Speaker 1: And so I was like, but it goes to the
Speaker 1: point of like, yeah, just like straight people having to
Speaker 1: occupy a queer I guess he was not a professional actor,
Speaker 1: blessed heart, But like, still, it's work. It's it is work,
Speaker 1: Like he has to like think about like he has
Speaker 1: to really be an actor in that moment, think about
Speaker 1: all these choices. So yeah, that's why I feel I
Speaker 1: feel that for sure. I just was thinking about the
Speaker 1: other day. I'm like the amount of ship that we
Speaker 1: have just spun off and done like as a group,
Speaker 1: and that's been really good. The bonding of the cast
Speaker 1: has been fun. If there was one heterosexual man, I
Speaker 1: just don't know either that person would feel singled out
Speaker 1: or he would be like a little too indulgent in
Speaker 1: the idea that he was around a bunch of gaming
Speaker 1: and probably like fancy himself, like oh I'm special right,
Speaker 1: or And you know that is dangerous. When straight men
Speaker 1: start to feel special, that's very dangerous. That's actually really
Speaker 1: culture number fifty five. When straight men start to feel special,
Speaker 1: that's very dangerous. Let's talk about what what is there
Speaker 1: anything else about the awards that you want to talk well,
Speaker 1: I mean, just off the top of my head, I'm
Speaker 1: so happy we singled out creatures are known in the
Speaker 1: forest of the animals in the forest, because I just
Speaker 1: I was so shook by that nomination nomination morning. And
Speaker 1: I also want to say shout out to hot engineer Doug,
Speaker 1: who did an amazing I loved that he really dropped
Speaker 1: in and he was very much like the pomp and
Speaker 1: circumstance of the nominations really was felt the way he said,
Speaker 1: in one hundred unique category categories such a line, it
Speaker 1: was just amazing, just incredible things. It was just amazing.
Speaker 1: And you know, I have so many favorite nominees, but
Speaker 1: I will just say, like in in the in the
Speaker 1: big categories, like Artists of the Millennium, I was happy
Speaker 1: to see Lissa Edwards sneak in there, and Mike White,
Speaker 1: to be honest, Mike White really late entry. Mike White
Speaker 1: and late entry. But I think White Lotus really came
Speaker 1: in at the right time in the campaign for the
Speaker 1: nomination process because it was on people's mind, it was
Speaker 1: on the publicisty yes. And then another category. You know,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be really interesting to see aquamarine take on blue.
Speaker 1: Most color each other out. It's one of those. And
Speaker 1: I guess not. I mean otherwise like there would be
Speaker 1: votes splitting. That will there be votes split splitting? That's
Speaker 1: actually something we have to ask. I think there might
Speaker 1: be vote splitting between um shicido peppers and water for
Speaker 1: the table for now might have chips all sneak in
Speaker 1: there and take it so um anyway, it's somebody to
Speaker 1: say we don't know when the awards will be with
Speaker 1: they're not scheduled and maybe they maybe they'll never happen,
Speaker 1: but um, but definitely looking forward to that. Should we
Speaker 1: talk about something that really rocked the cast today, because
Speaker 1: I think people might have thought that we might have
Speaker 1: already recorded our episode before we heard about Nicki Minajo's
Speaker 1: anti vax stance. But we should also say this is
Speaker 1: a cast full chock full of barbs, so many barbs,
Speaker 1: I mean, just able to recite beat me up Scottie
Speaker 1: versus like we we are barbs down. And the news
Speaker 1: today was hard. It was hard to take that. How
Speaker 1: did you feel? Because I I sort of ambled over
Speaker 1: to you and I just said bad news. Well, and
Speaker 1: then I I and then I revealed to that I
Speaker 1: already because Joel broke it to me probably seconds before,
Speaker 1: seconds before you, and he went he went look like
Speaker 1: just like you know when someone comes to you like look,
Speaker 1: really bad news. I was like, oh my god, something
Speaker 1: terrible has happened. He goes look, and I look at
Speaker 1: his phone and I see the tweet and I just go, oh, no,
Speaker 1: it's because the thing is And then I did that
Speaker 1: thing where it's like you start in your brain to
Speaker 1: sort of form a defense, and then I don't want
Speaker 1: to protect the person. And then I just I was
Speaker 1: I literally started to say out loud, well, you know,
Speaker 1: people have different and then I was like, no, no,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I'm in September. Vaccines have been available for
Speaker 1: eight months, and I I don't know. This is this
Speaker 1: is how a lot of you know, what Allen lovers
Speaker 1: must have felt. It's not quite the same. Of Course,
Speaker 1: he didn't, you know, cheat on his wife with his child,
Speaker 1: but um, she didn't. What's what's that? Well, you said
Speaker 1: he didn't cheat on his wife with his child, and
Speaker 1: I said, well she didn't, Nikki didn't. Of course, it's
Speaker 1: not not her being anti backs is not quite the
Speaker 1: same quite the same as you know, statutory rape. But um,
Speaker 1: you know this is really really troubling. This and and
Speaker 1: then for her to sort of elaborate that her cousin
Speaker 1: cousin cousin became impotent because his testicles so big, and
Speaker 1: then so basically, for those who don't know, she tweeted
Speaker 1: that she's not attending the MECA because you had to
Speaker 1: get By the way, we'll talk about the Macalla briefly,
Speaker 1: but you can't go to the Metcala if you're not vaccinated.
Speaker 1: She's not getting vaccinated for the metcale. If she gets vaccinated,
Speaker 1: it will be for other reasons, which by the way,
Speaker 1: she's working on. She said, she's going to do her
Speaker 1: own research and she's quote unquote working on that research.
Speaker 1: And she said her cousin got the vaccine and his
Speaker 1: balls blew up real big, so big he was impotent,
Speaker 1: and then the girl he was married getting married to
Speaker 1: called off the wedding. As if that is like I
Speaker 1: don't even scientific details. I don't even really know what
Speaker 1: to say, because here's the thing. Unfortunately, it's funny. Unfortunately
Speaker 1: it's funny. She's a storyteller. Unfortunately a story was told.
Speaker 1: It's this is the thing. And we even had this
Speaker 1: conversation today about other female artists who we admire and
Speaker 1: we brought We won't name names, but we will say
Speaker 1: the reference point, which is, look, us queers are still
Speaker 1: standing one Mrs Alia Banks today, after all of all
Speaker 1: of the nasty, nasty things that have come out of
Speaker 1: her mouth, which are sort of ultimately still sort of funny.
Speaker 1: I mean, we laugh about something, and so therefore you're
Speaker 1: like like problematic faiths like that, we don't have to
Speaker 1: go through all the mental gymnastics to defend them. We
Speaker 1: can just look at someone and say, wow, she's probably
Speaker 1: so rich and out of touch as a potential reason
Speaker 1: for why she might be anti vax to be like, well,
Speaker 1: that's our that's our girl, and she's a little bit
Speaker 1: more humanized and we're not gonna deify her in quite
Speaker 1: the same way as we did. And here's another thing.
Speaker 1: And this is sort of like airing on the side
Speaker 1: of defense. But it's not no want us to know
Speaker 1: how your favor is, you know what I mean? Like,
Speaker 1: you can keep your problematic faith to yourself. I will
Speaker 1: come out here and say this. I sometimes will YouTube
Speaker 1: stream the Blake Shelton and Gwen Stefani duet. Okay, there's
Speaker 1: a few of them. I will sometimes stream the one
Speaker 1: that says, I don't want to go down any other
Speaker 1: road now. I don't want to nobody but you. That
Speaker 1: was sort of a combination of when and Blake that
Speaker 1: I was doing that a beautiful, beautiful thank you, And
Speaker 1: I streamed that sometimes knowing full well that Gwen Stefani's
Speaker 1: friends with Paul Ryan might be some sort of uncouth
Speaker 1: untoward figure, but you know the art from the artist.
Speaker 1: Do you think we're as I said, we as a
Speaker 1: society or doing a better job of that? I think
Speaker 1: it depends. Here's the thing, knowing Nicki Minaj is anti
Speaker 1: vax and has this stupid fucking reason for it, Am I,
Speaker 1: what are what when we hear super bas come on
Speaker 1: or we're not going to rush the floor? Can I
Speaker 1: just point out something not to bring it back to us.
Speaker 1: Was kind of snapped at the awards. We didn't really
Speaker 1: nominate her. She really didn't get many on the She
Speaker 1: and Tyra really didn't. Tyra was snubbed in a major
Speaker 1: way and Nicki was snubbed in a major way. And
Speaker 1: maybe maybe maybe we knew intrinsically that we somehow because
Speaker 1: you and I are very in touch with the ethers.
Speaker 1: Oh I put I licked my finger, put it up
Speaker 1: to the wind every morning, every morning, and we're but
Speaker 1: we're very in touch with the ethers, and we're very
Speaker 1: You and I are very sensitive to energy. And it's
Speaker 1: actually true that I agree, we're very in touch with
Speaker 1: the energy, and we're maybe this is a little woo woo,
Speaker 1: but we're sort of sometimes what will happen is when
Speaker 1: Bowen and I are in a different state and plane
Speaker 1: will sort of break the airspace. The airspace I was
Speaker 1: sort of, my whole body will sort of retch up
Speaker 1: in and I'll look to the sky and I'll say,
Speaker 1: he's calm. You know, I know when he's coming. No,
Speaker 1: let me tell you that the most recent occurrence of this,
Speaker 1: which was you were in town around Oh my god, yes, yes,
Speaker 1: and we were. I was supposed to meet you and
Speaker 1: Josh for an outside drag race viewing. Yes, Georgy was
Speaker 1: hosting with hosting, and then I out and then you
Speaker 1: had not seen you in months, the longest we had
Speaker 1: ever gone. I think I think that might be true.
Speaker 1: And I turned the corner to this place and you
Speaker 1: were right there. Yes, And can I tell something. It's
Speaker 1: because and I actually this is the most surreal thing
Speaker 1: I sensed. I was like, I have to go outside now.
Speaker 1: I know when I turned the corner, he's gonna be
Speaker 1: turned to the corner. And then it happened. Because I'm
Speaker 1: very sensitive to the energies and the ethers, and I
Speaker 1: know that you are too, and I just know when
Speaker 1: these things happened. So I think that maybe some sort
Speaker 1: of like psychological like thing was going on there where
Speaker 1: we knew not to nominate her because we didn't really
Speaker 1: feel that this was her moment to have a light
Speaker 1: shining on her. You know, we did that. We did that,
Speaker 1: We did that, and I am so proud of us,
Speaker 1: so proud of us, period. Period. And that's on period.
Speaker 1: That's on period. Let's talk about the Macaluan were it's
Speaker 1: happening now as we speak. It's literally the met the
Speaker 1: looks are rolling in. The theme is some type of
Speaker 1: America American independence girl. I don't know which which I
Speaker 1: was like what it's specific enough sometimes like the wording
Speaker 1: of the themes, I'm like, okay, but what is it?
Speaker 1: Like I get that. It's like like it was like, um,
Speaker 1: when they did the religious theme, the Catholic imagination, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was the culic imagination whatever, and it was just
Speaker 1: so sort of like like fruit fruit. I was like, okay,
Speaker 1: but what is it? What are we expecting to see?
Speaker 1: You know? You know what I love when it's when
Speaker 1: it's based every now every every now and then they'll
Speaker 1: do um based on designers, so they'll do a Christian
Speaker 1: do your year, They'll do like uh whatever like that
Speaker 1: was the most recent one, and that I love, like
Speaker 1: everyone's taken coming gars. Yeah, I love when it's specific.
Speaker 1: This is too broad. Yeah, and it almost feels like they,
Speaker 1: like a lot of the celebrities didn't know what to
Speaker 1: do with it, or they didn't want to do it.
Speaker 1: Like I I think a lot of people look stunning.
Speaker 1: I'm just wondering exactly how they are ruminations on the theme,
Speaker 1: but I sort of leave the theme behind and I'm like, Okay,
Speaker 1: the theme is what it is out. Yeah, it's just
Speaker 1: about seeing that the people in the clothes and it's
Speaker 1: so fun, right, how do they look? And I think
Speaker 1: the chairs all looked really good. I thought Amanda Gorman
Speaker 1: looked unbelievable, Timothy looked great, came in with a doll.
Speaker 1: We love. That was sort of grow gou appreciation appreciation.
Speaker 1: We love that. I mean, let's just say legends only.
Speaker 1: I mean, Iman that was absolutely amazing. I mean, Billie
Speaker 1: Eilish looked fast in Oscar de Laurenta. I believe, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean like truly, I mean, there were there was
Speaker 1: great ship happening. I would say, I don't even want
Speaker 1: to really mention anyone that I don't think looked good.
Speaker 1: Here's what else say. It's frustrating and humiliating to watch
Speaker 1: someone show up in something hideous and then put on
Speaker 1: like a fashion face. I'm like, oh, like you're like
Speaker 1: you think they're trying too hard. Like when someone is
Speaker 1: coming in with like that put them and there were
Speaker 1: something like wrong. I mean that's like I'm like, we're
Speaker 1: going to do that. Everyone's under that and show but
Speaker 1: you know, like it's just a phase that everyone has
Speaker 1: to go through, you know, it's just like you got
Speaker 1: to be able to like perceive yours. I'm on this
Speaker 1: journey where I'm like I am, I'm learning through this
Speaker 1: process to like know what I look like and how
Speaker 1: I look my best. I think I think people are
Speaker 1: on their own journey, you know what. I also think
Speaker 1: it's often not up to the people that look bad
Speaker 1: on the roadway and that that the more you that's
Speaker 1: and that's isn't that so sad? Like it's not their fault. Yes,
Speaker 1: it's just like this is why, Well, I don't know,
Speaker 1: Like I read something with Resorts where she's like and
Speaker 1: she's like privileged to do this, but she's like for
Speaker 1: every red carpet thing she has like six stresses there
Speaker 1: and she never actually makes a decision until the day,
Speaker 1: which I didn't know that's something that they did. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they can do that. I mean like typically it's like
Speaker 1: a lot of people don't finalize their look until like
Speaker 1: days before something, especially for big events like the oscars
Speaker 1: of the mac Gallery are like big, big, big thing,
Speaker 1: because you don't want to be married to something that
Speaker 1: you then put on and feel bad exact and then
Speaker 1: there's no there's no recourse after that. There's no simply
Speaker 1: no recourse, simply none. And so it's also just like
Speaker 1: imagine going like the stress of that. That's a big
Speaker 1: one because literally it's not even just like I get
Speaker 1: to go and enjoy it, it's I get to go
Speaker 1: and primarily be a topic of fashion discussion, which is
Speaker 1: just checked by someone. And there's also no just great yeah,
Speaker 1: and but but what I mean is like there's no
Speaker 1: there's no bigger assumption that someone takes themselves seriously more
Speaker 1: than them arriving at the met Gala and like being
Speaker 1: like here's my look, because if you're one of those
Speaker 1: people that's they're being photographed in a met Gala look
Speaker 1: because you are invited that says to everyone like, oh no, yeah,
Speaker 1: I I take myself this seriously and I'm venting this
Speaker 1: to you as not only fashion but art and like
Speaker 1: cultural discussion. So have at it. And that is brave
Speaker 1: because you're really putting yourself out there in the most
Speaker 1: high risk way. Yeah, because that's like if you look,
Speaker 1: if you're a flop and then people are going to
Speaker 1: be talking for our prolonged period of time. Bat Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean so, so in that way, it's bravery and truth.
Speaker 1: It is brave. No, I'm literally and this is okay.
Speaker 1: Some fucking idiot's gonna think we're like stumping for celebrity rights. No,
Speaker 1: but it's just like psychologically that has to have some
Speaker 1: effect on you. Here's what I'll say. Four years ago,
Speaker 1: I might have gotten on this podcast and been like
Speaker 1: so and so looked direct flop whatever. But now now
Speaker 1: that I know a little bit more about it, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna be a little nicer. And that's actually g r
Speaker 1: w t H growth growth. Natasha Rothwell Gift posted, Now
Speaker 1: we don't we don't drag anyone for looking bad at
Speaker 1: the met gallop because you know what, maybe it was
Speaker 1: someone else. Maybe so many things could go wrong. So
Speaker 1: many things could go wrong. By the way, this is
Speaker 1: just again if you can't tell by now, this is
Speaker 1: just a culture recap episode we'ven't done when this is
Speaker 1: a culture catch up? Culture catchup? Culture, I'm sorry, culture
Speaker 1: catch up? Culture catch up? Did I mistermed? It so
Speaker 1: much culture to talk about? And wait, we sort of
Speaker 1: touched on Saltlake at the top, Yeah, we did, say Joe,
Speaker 1: Joe can okay, so he said that he wanted to
Speaker 1: come in and talk about salt Lake with us because
Speaker 1: last night we all watched salt Lake together. Now here's
Speaker 1: the thing. Um, Like I said, I saw it a
Speaker 1: few weeks ago, and I have I had even sent
Speaker 1: the link to my sisters. But I'm actually really happy
Speaker 1: that we all waited to discuss it together. Joe Kim's here,
Speaker 1: Um now say hi hello. So um. Basically, what we
Speaker 1: found was that it was one of the best episodes
Speaker 1: of Housewives in recent memory, and we also felt that
Speaker 1: it was far and away a best season opener. Oh
Speaker 1: my god, I mean what what were our general thoughts?
Speaker 1: I think the ladies, after a season of watching themselves,
Speaker 1: have sort of awoken in the machine a little bit,
Speaker 1: and they understand what they need. They understand the assignment
Speaker 1: better as often they do in the second seasons of
Speaker 1: these shows, Like they know that they are now archetypes.
Speaker 1: They are not human beings. They no longer exist as
Speaker 1: humans to us. But it's a thing where all of
Speaker 1: them know are plugging in in the right way, because
Speaker 1: sometimes you get housewives who watched themselves on TV for
Speaker 1: one season and then they kind of change course in
Speaker 1: a way that is not great for them. And I
Speaker 1: think all of them understand what they should do, but
Speaker 1: they were gonna except for except for Heather. I think
Speaker 1: Heather is gunning for a bad second. Yeah, what I'll
Speaker 1: say about Heather, I think Heather is is again gauging
Speaker 1: it wrong. I think she's playing and she was like
Speaker 1: I told you guys about what she really flopped and
Speaker 1: watch what Happens live being like, I think that Jen's
Speaker 1: business is unsavory. I've thought that from the beginning of
Speaker 1: Her Friend because she's fun and smart. It's like, honey,
Speaker 1: that's not how that's not what fun and smart people do.
Speaker 1: But I will say that she'll be watchable and she'll
Speaker 1: be a good housewife, and every single one of them
Speaker 1: are going to be good housewives. They're all set up,
Speaker 1: but Heather will just be confounding. Especially You'll be like,
Speaker 1: what are you doing? I mean you Also, you often
Speaker 1: see this, I think with UH, with either girls who
Speaker 1: are going into their second season or with this show
Speaker 1: it's the second season. In general, she's going in high
Speaker 1: of her own supply and oh how the mighty will fall.
Speaker 1: We see it. We saw this this season. We saw
Speaker 1: this season with Leah, we saw it with Um. Let
Speaker 1: us not forget Leanne Lockin coming off an amazing season
Speaker 1: from season four to season five, Culture number fourteen, let
Speaker 1: us not forget um. It happens all the time, and
Speaker 1: they and she will be humbled. She will be hung
Speaker 1: absolutely And it's the people. It's the real to follow
Speaker 1: that always fox these women up. I have to confront
Speaker 1: Joe Kim because I have to. This is one of
Speaker 1: my favorite things to do. Let's confront people on the podcast.
Speaker 1: So we're sort of sitting here in Ben Bowen's bedroom,
Speaker 1: like watching the show last night, and we start with
Speaker 1: Lisa going over to Jen's house, and about six times
Speaker 1: during the episode, Joel Kim turned to me and said,
Speaker 1: you are Lisa. You are Lisa, You are Lisa to
Speaker 1: the point where I started to feel like a drag.
Speaker 1: But I want you to know that Lisa's powerful this season,
Speaker 1: and Lisa is riding a trojan horse, and I do
Speaker 1: I agree with her in the conflict with Meredith, which
Speaker 1: is going to become a conflict. No, but Lisa is
Speaker 1: here as a house I have to stay. And people
Speaker 1: said she was going to be out soon. I don't think.
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think she's out soon. And it
Speaker 1: was not a drag. I simply believe that you are
Speaker 1: an active listener in the same way that Lisa is
Speaker 1: an active listen. I would be telling you, like literally,
Speaker 1: any time I tell you a story, it is a
Speaker 1: lot of amazingly. I love that, love that, and I
Speaker 1: love this. I love this. I also do I do
Speaker 1: respect anyone that rides from fast food place to fast
Speaker 1: food place and like her Mercedes, she still looks like that,
Speaker 1: feel that she's your sister because of her passion for
Speaker 1: diet coke. Yes, I do feel connected to her about that.
Speaker 1: I do feel connected about that. I would like to
Speaker 1: transition us now, because if you're calling me out, then
Speaker 1: I I want to start by simply bringing up the
Speaker 1: topic of Mary m Cosby. Okay, we have we we
Speaker 1: we brought up at the beginning, but let's really dig.
Speaker 1: First of all, I just want to say that I
Speaker 1: think Mary is sort of poised to become one of
Speaker 1: our greatest housewives legendary. I believe that she is great
Speaker 1: and and I believe that she is incredible and amazing
Speaker 1: for the show, and that she is dangerous and she'd
Speaker 1: be removed from television immediately. Um, I fear from my life.
Speaker 1: I fear for the lives that those around her. I
Speaker 1: think she's dangerous. I think it's she is an incredible
Speaker 1: piece of television history. She is anti narrative, anti narrative.
Speaker 1: We were saying, we were saying, the three of us
Speaker 1: that the podcast is anti structure. Yeah, well, when when
Speaker 1: Mary m cosby comes on Housewives of Salt Lake City,
Speaker 1: the show actually becomes avant garde, It becomes it becomes
Speaker 1: theater of the mind, it becomes odyssey of the mind,
Speaker 1: it becomes sort of journey into another level of the conscious. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because she says things like I don't belong in this world,
Speaker 1: and she says I don't trust human beings, and then
Speaker 1: she sort of gets into it. I was born by God,
Speaker 1: I was born for God. These sort of things which
Speaker 1: are so And then when she's when they cut to
Speaker 1: her in her hat and she says, UM, I don't
Speaker 1: want to drink Jen's friendship juice. That's the sort of
Speaker 1: stuff that creeps me out. Excuse me out. I'm like,
Speaker 1: I never it's always reaction, but never enough reaction. Also,
Speaker 1: where's it coming from. I've never seen someone literally move
Speaker 1: through space like she knows talking to herself. I'm like,
Speaker 1: this is really really unsettling because I've not seen a
Speaker 1: human being like this ever in my life. And let
Speaker 1: it be known that her podcast completely missing from the Internet.
Speaker 1: Those mics were not plugged in. Um. And here's where
Speaker 1: the call up comes in, because again I do love Mary.
Speaker 1: She is my in my top five. I think she's
Speaker 1: a terrorist. I think she needs She's obviously taking advantage
Speaker 1: of people, and she is maybe one of the most
Speaker 1: evil people to ever appear on a Bravo reality television show.
Speaker 1: And I believe that her rise can be directly attributed
Speaker 1: to your platforming of this awful, amazing person. I agree,
Speaker 1: and I have no regrets regrets what we did say.
Speaker 1: I think someone there was a bad news there was
Speaker 1: a bad news day for her, and then you and
Speaker 1: I texted each other like we have to resist. We
Speaker 1: almost said we have to get on and do a
Speaker 1: whole episod resending that whole episode, which would have been
Speaker 1: too much, Which would have been too much. I don't
Speaker 1: stand by it. I think I kind of agree with
Speaker 1: Joel and I think we should. We should, we should
Speaker 1: present the day. I guess what we have to say
Speaker 1: again is watch this space Space Um. Whitney dropping the
Speaker 1: cake was iconography perfection, rule of the perfection. That was
Speaker 1: a great moment um. I thought all of meredith scenes
Speaker 1: were good. We got to see a deeper side of Meredith.
Speaker 1: I think Meredith is poised to have the best the Queen.
Speaker 1: I think that Meredith is positioning herself very much in
Speaker 1: the way that Kyle has managed to do in a
Speaker 1: lot of ways, in that Kyle is sort of the
Speaker 1: conduit for a lot of personal drama in her own
Speaker 1: life without being in conflict with a lot of the LVP,
Speaker 1: notwithstanding some of that stuff. But but, but there are
Speaker 1: a few housewives that you can sort of settle into
Speaker 1: and watch them deal with personal family drama without the
Speaker 1: conflict with the other women. Now she's obviously activating a
Speaker 1: little bit more this season is engay James Meredith speak um.
Speaker 1: But I I also I I'm happy to watch her
Speaker 1: go through her marriage problems. I'm happy to watch her
Speaker 1: deal with her father's death. I'm happy to watch her
Speaker 1: put a dog in a sweater. I'm there, sweater. The
Speaker 1: product placement was on point, she said, exactly, assignment, my
Speaker 1: fashion assignment. I find her to be very compelling, and
Speaker 1: I find her resistance to drama in itself a drama. Well,
Speaker 1: it's not resistance to drama because she has a very
Speaker 1: very steadfast value system. Let's say, I mean her talking
Speaker 1: about Brooks and protecting Brooks of sexuality in a way
Speaker 1: that is kind of bogus. But to be like, Brooks
Speaker 1: has never talked to and he was referred to as
Speaker 1: a twig, as a twig specifically, there was one post
Speaker 1: referring to him as that was and that there is
Speaker 1: now a narrative. We are now existing in the world
Speaker 1: where brooks marks of sexuality is in question, and this
Speaker 1: in his sexual He's barely spoken about it, even to me,
Speaker 1: let it alone, to jen Shaw my family. She I
Speaker 1: mean it's I Connar. I have done nothing to Jenneha.
Speaker 1: This is what I think about Meredith. In any good show,
Speaker 1: you have a will they or won't they? Will they
Speaker 1: won't they narrative? Thank you Rachel and Ross or Ross
Speaker 1: and Rachel. Either way it could work. Um, the will
Speaker 1: they won't pay thank you? It's another one. Um. And
Speaker 1: the will they won't they of salt Lake is Meredith,
Speaker 1: and the narrative the will they won't of salt Lake
Speaker 1: is Meredith Marks and the narrative of the show. Is
Speaker 1: she too good for it? Or is she going to
Speaker 1: get messy? And we've we've we have answered the question.
Speaker 1: She called the Feds, She called the fends and they're
Speaker 1: that they're insinuating that she called Defends on Jen which,
Speaker 1: by the way, we haven't even brought up Jen which
Speaker 1: is insane that this episode went was chocked of enough
Speaker 1: that we're not even talking about biggest Jester flop nominee
Speaker 1: Jen Shaw of the Real househ of Salt Lake City.
Speaker 1: She is almost definitely going to jail. And we saw
Speaker 1: the first minute or so of the episode depicted the
Speaker 1: actual fleeing of the beauty lab scene that was jen
Speaker 1: Shaw getting the call that she was going to be
Speaker 1: arrested in the two months earlier cut away, she says
Speaker 1: to who to Lisa, you know I would go to
Speaker 1: jail for you. I haven't gone to jail yet. Five
Speaker 1: star episodes there was no I And this is this
Speaker 1: in a golden era of housewives, And we can all
Speaker 1: agree in an episode where pretty much every episode of
Speaker 1: Beverly Hills is almost five stars, if not at least four.
Speaker 1: I've enjoyed various Potomic has been great, and Potoma continues
Speaker 1: to be great. I definitely like we're at a little
Speaker 1: bit of a stall um. And this is the think
Speaker 1: the first episode that we thought maybe a scular needs
Speaker 1: to give more. Yeah, lots of shots of Escalat putting
Speaker 1: food in our mouth this week. It's and she's only
Speaker 1: had one confessional. Look this whole time, hasn't she We
Speaker 1: need more? Um, I just want to really quickly quote
Speaker 1: Meredith Marx again, horrible despicable, repugnant things. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: just just wonderful, wonderful poetry there hits the air just right.
Speaker 1: And also, this is another thing about Whitney. I want
Speaker 1: to just jump back to her. It's very hard for
Speaker 1: me to hear anyone say the words work hard, play hard,
Speaker 1: and we still like them. And when she said that
Speaker 1: she was teaching her adult step children that she works
Speaker 1: hard and play hard and they tend too, I was like,
Speaker 1: you know what, that's actually good and those kids need that.
Speaker 1: Those twenty nine year old men that are her son's
Speaker 1: need a figure like her to show them work hard,
Speaker 1: play hard, and that's all. That's all Mormons want. A
Speaker 1: twenty year old Mormon in their twenties wants to hear
Speaker 1: or to really internalizes the work hard, play hard. That's
Speaker 1: what Lula ro is all about. I can't wait to
Speaker 1: watch Lula watch Lula Rich. Have you heard about Lula Rich? Um?
Speaker 1: I only know about it in the context of that
Speaker 1: man being upset about Kelly Clarkson, that is the lightning
Speaker 1: rod of controversy. Yes, Unfortunately, watched Yanks interview. So now
Speaker 1: I'm with two people who have been on the Kelly
Speaker 1: Clarkson Show, and I am her biggest fan, and I'm
Speaker 1: not one of them. We just watched Bowen Yanks charming
Speaker 1: interview on her was fine, it was I was nervous, um.
Speaker 1: But she apparently is featured in the Lula Rich documentary.
Speaker 1: I guess because she performed a private concert. She performed
Speaker 1: concert for Lula Row, which actually makes a perfect amount
Speaker 1: of sense. But, um, we're gonna watch the documentary. I
Speaker 1: might even watch it tonight with my friends if you wish.
Speaker 1: That's insane. We have to be up in like six hours.
Speaker 1: Well they've been early causes suggest watching Lula Rich when
Speaker 1: we have to be up in six hours. I would
Speaker 1: love to watch an informative documentary with my friend where what?
Speaker 1: What network? Is it? A Prime? It's on the Amazon Prime?
Speaker 1: What's huge for them? You know? I actually what I mean?
Speaker 1: And the streaming wars. They didn't have a big Landmark
Speaker 1: doc and now they're going to have one. Before before
Speaker 1: I let Joel float off back into sleepytown. UM, I
Speaker 1: want to know your thoughts, everyone's thoughts on new housewife Jenny. Jenny?
Speaker 1: What do we think of her compelling personal narrative and backstory?
Speaker 1: An interesting and interesting, compelling personal narrative. Um, we I
Speaker 1: need to see more. I need to see more. I
Speaker 1: will say this is my problem with Jenny is that
Speaker 1: she's not making a big enough play at sort of
Speaker 1: the branding, like right off the bat her her tagline, um,
Speaker 1: I have enough of everything? Even secrets. What is it?
Speaker 1: I have enough of everything, especially opinions, especially opinions. Something
Speaker 1: like that, very generic stuff could have been could be
Speaker 1: said of any housewife, and that's tough. And based on
Speaker 1: the trailer clips of her, it seems like she's just
Speaker 1: kind of pulling conflict out of thin air in a
Speaker 1: way that doesn't fel it was an not working out
Speaker 1: me is not working out in no star quality there either,
Speaker 1: UM it does. It is interesting that, um, they really
Speaker 1: pulled the lever and said we will have Asian women
Speaker 1: on base franchises. There's one on every franchise. They're really
Speaker 1: sort of they're they're colonizing every city. They're colonizing. Asians
Speaker 1: are colonizing. And it's interesting that she still fits within
Speaker 1: this sort of me this theme of Salt Lake City,
Speaker 1: which is, oh, you have a religious person, and here
Speaker 1: we have Catholicism represented. I would like to see I
Speaker 1: would like to see a predominantly Asian housewife city. I
Speaker 1: think something in the Bay Area, something that that you know,
Speaker 1: or retool Orange County to be mostly Asian. Sure, oh
Speaker 1: my god, that would be great. I want to see that.
Speaker 1: I want to see that on my TV. Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: that see it, I would like to see it. Um. Wait,
Speaker 1: there was one other thing. There was one other thing,
Speaker 1: um the taglines. So I think we we've all agreed
Speaker 1: that this fleet of taglines was amongst the best, one
Speaker 1: of the best. Um, but I think we all can
Speaker 1: say together what the number one maybe best Housewives tagline?
Speaker 1: And this is gonna really close the loop on the
Speaker 1: beginning of the beginning of this episode, which is, if
Speaker 1: you come for me, I will send Jesus after you.
Speaker 1: And it doesn't get scarier or bigger than Jesus. Truly,
Speaker 1: I feel the impact. Still, it has not worn off well.
Speaker 1: And we have seen women weaponized Christianity on these shows.
Speaker 1: We've seen women sort of based their entire thing around Christianity.
Speaker 1: Never have we seen someone evoke Jesus name in such
Speaker 1: a way as if she hired like a friend, a
Speaker 1: hit man Jesus. Imagine Jesus chasing you down scarier than
Speaker 1: arriving in a dark, dark like alleyway, and Jesus come
Speaker 1: after you. Would you would really second guest, and he
Speaker 1: pens you down, and you in your dying breath, the
Speaker 1: last thing you say is who sent you? And he
Speaker 1: says Mary M. Cosby, my close personal friend, my sister
Speaker 1: who was born of me. Truly, I have chills. I
Speaker 1: have chills. I've I've ever experienced the television show like this.
Speaker 1: It is I think with one episode out the gate,
Speaker 1: you realize that first the first season of the show
Speaker 1: actually was even in the moments where it didn't feel
Speaker 1: like it was popping off, everything was essential. Every woman
Speaker 1: is set up for success. The narratives are we scream
Speaker 1: laughing every time we see Whitney say we are in danger.
Speaker 1: She's not who she says she is. At least she's
Speaker 1: not who she says she I just don't think she
Speaker 1: is who think who she says she is? Whatever it
Speaker 1: is shaking. I gotta say even the commercials, even the commercials,
Speaker 1: from the commercials that played during the episodes, that woman
Speaker 1: it's from It's from some movie. That woman is a disruptor.
Speaker 1: I mean really good stuff. On brab without Top to Bob,
Speaker 1: we were speaking of um just words like disruptor, trespassing.
Speaker 1: Candice Stiller Bassett heard about her lost culture Risso's Cultural
Speaker 1: Award nominations and she said, she said, what categories exclamation point? Question?
Speaker 1: Someone said at Candice, I can't believe. What a thrill
Speaker 1: for her to be nominated in three categories the same
Speaker 1: number of categories at drill Boosters. Do you have any
Speaker 1: response to your three nominations. UM, I have to say, um,
Speaker 1: and I heard about them. UM, I was shocked. UM.
Speaker 1: I will say, UM. I do feel like I am
Speaker 1: sort of being set up to lose uh for the joke,
Speaker 1: and I'm fine with that. No, I'm fine with that,
Speaker 1: even though I understand what the joke would be. I
Speaker 1: think it's pretty clear what the joke is. I feel
Speaker 1: like that what's clear is that Matt and I will
Speaker 1: lose our categories, but the people who really deserve the
Speaker 1: awards and will be publicized heavily will win, and you
Speaker 1: will deserve whoever the funniest game man is, We'll win
Speaker 1: whoever had the funniest. I don't think somebody whoever should
Speaker 1: deserve the joy Bey Harst for coming. I think it's
Speaker 1: it's just gonna come down to who did the best
Speaker 1: stand up we actually I have. I don't even know
Speaker 1: who else is nominated, but besides me and Pat for
Speaker 1: the joy Behart one, it's you carried Katy Perry for
Speaker 1: her work in the in the VM as when she
Speaker 1: hosted Okay the VMAs. Okay, that makes sense, that makes
Speaker 1: a lot of and I think between the three of you,
Speaker 1: and it's a dead heat. It's a dead Remember I
Speaker 1: was gonna say it's been clear front runners it No,
Speaker 1: it's the Joy Behar Award for Comedy. It's not Best
Speaker 1: stand Up. It's so it's I don't know why I
Speaker 1: have to explain it. And this is the thing. Some
Speaker 1: of those some of those awards, uh, the Namesake Awards,
Speaker 1: the Namesakes were nominated Tina Turner was dominated for the
Speaker 1: Tina Turner she was nominated. Joy Behart was not nominated
Speaker 1: for the Joy She was Joy Behart. It's kind of
Speaker 1: like Diablo Cody Award for Screenwriting? Do you have locally
Speaker 1: for Young Adult? And NIA ardallos from my big record Wedding,
Speaker 1: And it's just gonna come down to who deserves the
Speaker 1: Diablo Cody Award for Screenwriting. Doesn't mean one of those
Speaker 1: scripts that Diablo Cody wrote is the winner. And I
Speaker 1: don't really understand why I have to explain this. No, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I'm sorry to make you explain that. I'm
Speaker 1: just saying I just want to really disprove this notion
Speaker 1: that Joel has that he is being set up to lose.
Speaker 1: He thinks it's a bit, he thinks being set up
Speaker 1: for a joke. He said, this is a month long process,
Speaker 1: this is an awards season. It's very serious. Get out
Speaker 1: of here. I will say. I approached Matt on set,
Speaker 1: I'll say it on set even and he was hunched
Speaker 1: over his phone, hunched, hunched, hunched over his phone, and
Speaker 1: I said, what are you doing? And you said, I'm voting.
Speaker 1: And I thought maybe in the California recall election that
Speaker 1: in my ballot was counted and if you haven't voted
Speaker 1: in you must, um, And he was. It was the
Speaker 1: It was actually the ballot for the last Culturalis Award.
Speaker 1: And he said. He looked me down in the eyes
Speaker 1: and he said, I don't think you're gonna win. You
Speaker 1: said that. I don't remember saying that you did. You did?
Speaker 1: How dare you? I don't. I didn't say that. I
Speaker 1: think you look guilty, look of guilty. Um. It might
Speaker 1: have been. It might have been more so that you
Speaker 1: were saying I'm not voting for you, which he only
Speaker 1: has one. I would never or say who I voted for.
Speaker 1: I haven't voted for anybody. I've never in any election
Speaker 1: said who I voted for. I don't think it's right
Speaker 1: to talk about politics, race, religion, creed, or politics. We're
Speaker 1: not talking about that. Not. No, I'm like Ramona. I
Speaker 1: don't like talking about race, religion, creed, girlfriends, my girlfriends,
Speaker 1: sexy girlfriends stuff, grids. Um, speaking of sexy girlfriend stuff,
Speaker 1: do you have anything to say about the following topics? Um?
Speaker 1: Kylie Souniq wins Drag Race, amazing love. As soon as
Speaker 1: she tripped and recovered, I said, there's the winner going
Speaker 1: in a sentence, what do you think about Kylie Son
Speaker 1: winning Drags? What a beautiful journey, What a true full
Speaker 1: redemption arc in a season of many redemption arcs. What
Speaker 1: a lovely thing to end on her sort of you know,
Speaker 1: really triumphing beautiful? I would say, I agree. I think
Speaker 1: that also, I don't really know who else would have won. Um. Okay,
Speaker 1: now I want to give you to have a one
Speaker 1: sentence review of Casey mos Grave's Star Cross Jill kim Um,
Speaker 1: I hope she gets ten more divorces. That really has
Speaker 1: provided good work. Bon yang Uh, I will say cherry
Speaker 1: Blossoms is an acceptable moment of musical appropriation of Asian culture.
Speaker 1: And I was wondering if you thought that, because I
Speaker 1: said I really like this song when it started, and said,
Speaker 1: you said, is that cherry Blossoms? And I said yes?
Speaker 1: And then I wondered if you didn't like the sungs?
Speaker 1: And what end did I go? No, I love that song.
Speaker 1: I really loved you. It's a gorgeous song. And she
Speaker 1: and she and she throws in some like fun like
Speaker 1: Japanese like whatever, like one influences public trans and no,
Speaker 1: she loves Japan. She loves Japan. What what, Joel? I
Speaker 1: want her to come out like Katie Perry at the
Speaker 1: Vehomesolcation unconditionally. I thought you were saying she should come
Speaker 1: out and stand. I don't think so. Can I say,
Speaker 1: I don't think Katy Musgraves would be as good a
Speaker 1: comedian as Katie. I really don't know this, but she
Speaker 1: she wasn't alive with Max Dalter the other day promoting
Speaker 1: the film and Nextalter, one of the stars of Star
Speaker 1: Across the film. Yes, that's true, and she and Meg
Speaker 1: were having we're doing bits galore, and I think I
Speaker 1: think it's Casey could really roll with with with the comedian,
Speaker 1: I would agree, and I think that my my review
Speaker 1: of Casey Musgrave Starcross is it's so difficult to be
Speaker 1: cinematic yet intimate, and it was pulled off and you
Speaker 1: and you said that to me earlier at dinner, and
Speaker 1: I was like, he's so right, and this is my
Speaker 1: girl with with the incisive commentary. You and I love
Speaker 1: Casey from the from the jump, from the jump, we
Speaker 1: even we You actually are the reason why so similar
Speaker 1: to what you said about Miriam Cosby. Well, actually the
Speaker 1: reason why Casey Chris is popular with gay men because
Speaker 1: we wrote for Vultu for Vulture and we said gay
Speaker 1: people pay attention. Boyang and Matt Rogers. We're actually the
Speaker 1: two most influential Vulture writers. I'm reading this off the internet.
Speaker 1: Unter Harris, eat your heart. She can eat her ass out. God, Um,
Speaker 1: what do you think of Christen Stewart becoming the front
Speaker 1: runner for Best Actress for playing the nineteenth person um
Speaker 1: that's done Princess Diana this year? I will say, and
Speaker 1: I said this online and a lot of people tagged
Speaker 1: you in it. Um, I am not holding space for
Speaker 1: bandwagon Kristen Stewart fans. I have been there from the beginning.
Speaker 1: Was there very personal shopper. It was there during Clouds
Speaker 1: sils Maria in the good performances. I was there during Twilight,
Speaker 1: I was there during Panic Room. Okay, becoming the best
Speaker 1: actress front runner. For anyone who for anyone who thinks
Speaker 1: there they might be right in doubting her, all I
Speaker 1: have to say is, grammatically, this doesn't mean they don't don't.
Speaker 1: I will say this. When I saw that trailer and
Speaker 1: she said, I really got the chills, and I Pablo, Lorraine,
Speaker 1: you are a Jackie Fanily, you are a Jackie fan
Speaker 1: Jackie was. And you know what they said that people
Speaker 1: that have seen um Spencer said that it is a
Speaker 1: spiritual sister film to Jackie. And they said that, you know,
Speaker 1: would make a good trio Girardi. But wouldn't you think
Speaker 1: it would be interesting to Lorraine are one of our
Speaker 1: modern princesses. Stu Cameron's oscar and everyone's asking, what's Stuve
Speaker 1: Cameron's oscar? Who's everyone's asking? Every name on everyone's lips
Speaker 1: is Dove Cameron wonderful topic? Everyone watched the Dove Cameron interviews.
Speaker 1: She she's a real fucking girl. Okay, Mary fuck kill
Speaker 1: Mary Fu killed, Charlie xc X Good Ones, Chloe Mercy, Muna,
Speaker 1: and Phoebe Bridges Silk Chiffon. This is really hard. And
Speaker 1: these are the three bops that have come out during production.
Speaker 1: They've been I'm gonna marry Silk Chiffon, I'm gonna oh,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna fuck Mercy, and I'm gonna kill Charlie xc
Speaker 1: X Good Ones because of the funeral imagery. And I
Speaker 1: think that's what charl would want, because of what you
Speaker 1: did in the in the music video, and that's the
Speaker 1: way I'm gonna salvage the answer. Okay, okay, okay, So
Speaker 1: I actually have the same response, but I will say
Speaker 1: I have a slightly different reason for killing Charlie xc X,
Speaker 1: and it's because it's too damn short. It's too damn
Speaker 1: songs are too damn short. She's making a chart play,
Speaker 1: it's too short. She wants the streaming numbers to go up,
Speaker 1: and she wants to respect yourself. I think we're all
Speaker 1: gonna have Mercy, just like Chloe was sucking us in
Speaker 1: that music video. We're all marrying Silk Chiffon. Yes, I
Speaker 1: might love those girls. I might fuck good ones, just
Speaker 1: because it gives me like, so have Mercy. We were
Speaker 1: we were talking to him, you Queen's heads um in
Speaker 1: in aber Morrow. They both are like, we like it.
Speaker 1: It's a little it's just really intense in the way
Speaker 1: that it is really sexualizing Chloe, and and it is
Speaker 1: like it feels somewhat calculated in whatever way. I don't
Speaker 1: fully with that. I don't fully disagree with that. I
Speaker 1: just think I watch the Have Mercy video and I go, wow,
Speaker 1: I feel bad about myself right, and I don't and
Speaker 1: I can't have sex with someone who I'm intimidated by
Speaker 1: what I see. I felt like they have Mercy video.
Speaker 1: I was like, this is such a beyondite production that
Speaker 1: I almost feel like like but but I wonder like
Speaker 1: she's such a machine. I'm like, I'm only excited to
Speaker 1: see what's next. And I'm not surprised she couln't do this.
Speaker 1: I guess this didn't. This is a great thing for
Speaker 1: her to come at the gate with. Right, This wasn't
Speaker 1: like a thing of like, wow, this artist just gave
Speaker 1: it to me in a way I never knew they could.
Speaker 1: So we all knew this was this was coming. But
Speaker 1: I'm thrilled to see it. Yes, yes, but I'm gonna
Speaker 1: fun good ones. And I'm sorry I kill have Mercy
Speaker 1: because I'm scared you want to kill what you're afraid of.
Speaker 1: But I love that Dante Holly is in it. We're
Speaker 1: all marrying sick Shiven. We love the ladies. This is
Speaker 1: the last cultural topic. Not all ladies what we should say,
Speaker 1: But we love Doug do your thing. We love them.
Speaker 1: We love them. Now, the last cultural topic I want
Speaker 1: to discuss is what do you think of all of
Speaker 1: a sudden, every every young girl putting out a cover
Speaker 1: of Defying Gravity because they know they're auditioning for um alphaba?
Speaker 1: And who is your alphaba? Talk to me about that?
Speaker 1: Your first who do you want to see as alphabet?
Speaker 1: And Glinda. I'm not the one to answer this, I
Speaker 1: really am not, but I feel not qualified. I think
Speaker 1: whenever I go to Ariana Grande's Instagram and I see
Speaker 1: that she follows John him to director of the of
Speaker 1: the Wicked adaptation, I think, this miss this has to happen.
Speaker 1: She has to be and it it almost feels like we
Speaker 1: all have blue balls if she wasn't in it a
Speaker 1: little bit right like she like she would be the
Speaker 1: draw for everybody. Think about the generational like reach that
Speaker 1: like she would have if she were to be cast
Speaker 1: either as Alphabra. I think she'd be good as either. Honestly,
Speaker 1: I think should be good as I've chuckling because I'm
Speaker 1: remembering last week when I made you sing the Wizard
Speaker 1: and I as a sim because that is what um
Speaker 1: a friend. And I believe Ariana sounds like when she
Speaker 1: sings the Wizard or not and Matt has doesn't know
Speaker 1: what simlesh is. And if the readers, I know, I
Speaker 1: didn't stop you, but it is. It is one of
Speaker 1: the funniest recordings. And I wish I could play I'll
Speaker 1: play it for I'll play it for you tomorrow now,
Speaker 1: Okay that I don't know. I don't I don't know
Speaker 1: how to answer this. I'm so sorry, I'm not. I
Speaker 1: also think Ariana ground I should be in the film
Speaker 1: because I just think why the hell not why the helmet?
Speaker 1: And I would also say that I since the beginning,
Speaker 1: have been by the way Emmy winner Kecky Palmer, I
Speaker 1: think keke Palmer would be a good as Glinda should
Speaker 1: be amazing. I think she because Glenda and I think
Speaker 1: she also has an alphable voice. I think we should
Speaker 1: be thinking of Kei Hammer more for every part part,
Speaker 1: but I'm just saying for this as well. I also
Speaker 1: think Madam Marrible should be Catherine Jada Jones. That's the
Speaker 1: only thing I'm positive and interesting. Nada would be amazing
Speaker 1: like Cuckoo, like Madam Marrible. I'm thinking like Christine Baranski interesting.
Speaker 1: But and maybe that's two similar to her in Chicago.
Speaker 1: She's like, oh, you know, like she is very like that.
Speaker 1: Um but I speaking of Dev Cameron, Dev Cameron being
Speaker 1: amazing Glinda mm hmm. Yeah, I'm not seeing in these choices.
Speaker 1: I would like to see Park. Actually, Park, I would
Speaker 1: like to see um My by Pack Queen Jesse j
Speaker 1: iconic by POC when she put out that. When she
Speaker 1: put out that Defined Gravity cover, I said, it's finally
Speaker 1: great to see an iconic by boxing this song. No
Speaker 1: you are so I love when I get to see
Speaker 1: by pop win someone someone someone at a party here
Speaker 1: on the island. When that the day that video came
Speaker 1: out of Jesse Jason and Defying Gravity came out, I
Speaker 1: mean Joel and I had checked him with the Trible.
Speaker 1: We were both like we both had our opinions about it.
Speaker 1: This person comes up to me, gorgeous guy. I couldn't
Speaker 1: tell if he was making a move on me, but
Speaker 1: he was like, um, but Jesse j A remix of
Speaker 1: Domino by Jesse j came out and then he reached
Speaker 1: over to me and said, um, have we seen the
Speaker 1: video of Jesse Jason and defying gravity? And I go,
Speaker 1: I have indeed, and he goes, what do we think?
Speaker 1: And right as I was about to open my mouth
Speaker 1: to be like, I don't know, he said I thought
Speaker 1: she was incredible, but it was like and that was
Speaker 1: a Jesse j R. In his bag, in his bag,
Speaker 1: and I was like, okay, let's just let's just let
Speaker 1: this go. This this man, I think it has to
Speaker 1: be said that the video was incredible in a lot
Speaker 1: of way. Oh, it's an incredible video. The camera anglees alone.
Speaker 1: She's saying it effortlessly. Oh my, but here's the thing
Speaker 1: with defined gravity, it's you need to active. I don't
Speaker 1: think it should sound effortless. It should sound like the
Speaker 1: biggest effort in her life thus far. I yes, I
Speaker 1: feel she should be metamorphosizing. It should feel like a
Speaker 1: Dina Manzel about to die, which is how it originally was.
Speaker 1: Dina Manzel killed herself out. This is why the British
Speaker 1: Von Massey moment is so iconic because she literally is
Speaker 1: like losing her mind a little bit, you know, like
Speaker 1: she's like, I'm this new, I'm changed, changed, And that's
Speaker 1: why it's nominated for Best Live Performance by a Woman
Speaker 1: at the last Coultures Culture Awards. Thank you, brand I
Speaker 1: wanted to touch on that, Joe Kim, would you you
Speaker 1: sort of become an honorary guest on the episode? Would
Speaker 1: you like to stay for I don't think so, honey.
Speaker 1: Do you have anything to get off your chest? Or
Speaker 1: do you want to wait while we do it and
Speaker 1: then maybe decide at the end? Okay, well I have that. Basically,
Speaker 1: what you need to know everyone at home is two things. One,
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey, is a one minute segment
Speaker 1: that we do on every episode of Lost Cultures, which
Speaker 1: is sort of a minute long period for us to
Speaker 1: just sort of bowen. What would you say if you
Speaker 1: could make a noise that simplifies I don't think, so honey?
Speaker 1: What is it that? Yeah? And so that's like that.
Speaker 1: And also you need to know another thing, which is
Speaker 1: that I decided on my topic, I don't think so honey,
Speaker 1: and then Jill Kim seconds later dragged a very similar topic.
Speaker 1: He was like, I don't think so what are you
Speaker 1: gonna do. I don't think so honey bees. I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna do that. I'm gonna do this. Something else is
Speaker 1: Matt Rogers. I don't think so many time starts now,
Speaker 1: I don't think so honey Insects that bite, yes, it
Speaker 1: includes bees, but this also encompasses the the very very
Speaker 1: rude and not offsided biting insect, which is the horse
Speaker 1: fly which was dragging the girls to hell. Today we
Speaker 1: were shooting a scene that takes place at Ta Spoiler,
Speaker 1: and we were down by the harbor, and let me
Speaker 1: tell you, the horse flies were out to night and
Speaker 1: they were out to bite, namely the cast of Fire Island,
Speaker 1: the ankles, at the ankles, the knees, the shins, sometimes
Speaker 1: in the neck. Really tough stuff. Also turning too, the bees.
Speaker 1: We don't need them. I don't think so honey bees
Speaker 1: that we need you, because a lot of people are
Speaker 1: out here saying, well, you know, we need bees. It's
Speaker 1: like you dig a little bit, you go on the
Speaker 1: internet for two seconds. Why do you need bees? You
Speaker 1: need him for corn? Guess what I don't like. I
Speaker 1: don't like corn. I don't need corn. I don't need
Speaker 1: anything that goes in looking them one way, it comes
Speaker 1: out the same, unless it's a dick. The dick should
Speaker 1: go in looking one way, come out looking the exact same.
Speaker 1: No poop, I don't make a minute. So we have
Speaker 1: something factially raw, which is that if bees were to
Speaker 1: die off, we would just need to eat be eating
Speaker 1: more corn because other flowering vegetables would not. No, no, no,
Speaker 1: you got the quarantine. Right, Oh, I'm sorry. Then I
Speaker 1: got the corn. You got the quarantine. I'm sorry. My
Speaker 1: sources tell me that of the crops that we eat
Speaker 1: would die out and it would be die but it
Speaker 1: would not be chemistry. It would not be that's we
Speaker 1: still got corn, Baby, we still got I said I could,
Speaker 1: I could live off of corn, and you two queen
Speaker 1: said no, I actually don't like corn, which is shocking.
Speaker 1: And there was a scene the other day where I
Speaker 1: was given a prop bag and my character had bought
Speaker 1: a lot of corn, and I handed it back. I said,
Speaker 1: my character wouldn't do this, and what you were really saying?
Speaker 1: Then the prop back. They gave the prop back back
Speaker 1: and they said you'd better take this, and they said
Speaker 1: you better take this. You're to take this prop. Well
Speaker 1: that was a brave one. Well I'm saying is they've
Speaker 1: been really a nuisance lately. I was I was potentially
Speaker 1: gonna do it. I don't think so, honey, butterflies, it's
Speaker 1: just good pr because they're at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: just as disgusting as of insects as others. Why do
Speaker 1: we give them a free pass because they're they're they
Speaker 1: have about our aesthetic, which is beautiful, but according to who, like,
Speaker 1: according to what aesthetic, according to what you know what,
Speaker 1: you would have done this. No, it's fine. I'm just saying,
Speaker 1: but you're being specific. You're saying bugs that bite, spotterflies
Speaker 1: don't bite. Bugs that bite. I mean, like it's just
Speaker 1: and here's the thing. It's like they say, like, oh,
Speaker 1: don't bother the bee, don't wave the bee, then it
Speaker 1: won't bite you. I wasn't doing anything. I wasn't doing anything.
Speaker 1: I was minding my own business. I was actually doing
Speaker 1: my job today, Thank you very much. Say that. I
Speaker 1: don't think Sonny, Well, lucky us because we have we
Speaker 1: have time tonight, and this is bowing things. I don't
Speaker 1: think so many a time starts now. I don't think
Speaker 1: so many high fives. Open palm hand contact is very
Speaker 1: aggressively heterosexual. To me. The only queer way to have
Speaker 1: hand contact with someone is to enter lock your fingers.
Speaker 1: Am I right? Or am I fucking right? No more
Speaker 1: high fives, Queer people. If you see each other, if
Speaker 1: you want to congratulate each other, trumph and somethings share
Speaker 1: a moment together, do something else, look, make eye contact,
Speaker 1: hold each other's faces in your hands, and say, wow,
Speaker 1: good job, I'm proud of you. Not high five. None
Speaker 1: of that. We've been fucking fourth grade. Remember the day
Speaker 1: that you discovered what a high five was and you
Speaker 1: thought you were the coolest fucking person in the world.
Speaker 1: Those days are long gone. You're an old person now.
Speaker 1: You're at least forty five years old. If you listen
Speaker 1: to this podcast, that's the median age of this team.
Speaker 1: Told just kidding, I just made that up, But high fives.
Speaker 1: Stop it. If you high five someone again, please live
Speaker 1: in some shame that you have adopted straight culture into
Speaker 1: your life. If you are straight, please start to clear
Speaker 1: your hand contact going forward and that's one minute. Two things,
Speaker 1: the mean age of listeners of this podcast. Do you
Speaker 1: is this real? I guess? And the second thing is
Speaker 1: this is a direct drag on me. Someone that high
Speaker 1: five Bowen today as a bit and I and I
Speaker 1: and that's what inspired by I don't think so, honey
Speaker 1: and I. But it was a bit and I knew
Speaker 1: it was it because you don't. We don't high five.
Speaker 1: We do not. And that's that's this is the thing
Speaker 1: is that queer people are queering have queered that already.
Speaker 1: The people who remain high fivers, I go, what what?
Speaker 1: What pain are you holding onto? Yeah? You're so right,
Speaker 1: thank you. And also in the year of Our Lord
Speaker 1: one where it's covid oh no, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: not high five keep to the elbow. I also, I
Speaker 1: will say I don't like the elbow thing either, because
Speaker 1: I feel like it's like a comment on the fact
Speaker 1: that we can't high five. And it does bring me
Speaker 1: back mentally, you know what I mean, Like if we're
Speaker 1: gonna bump elbows, I'm like, oh God, I didn't need this,
Speaker 1: And now I just remember that we can't shake hand exactly,
Speaker 1: but like you can, but you can you can't get vaccinated.
Speaker 1: I'm like Nikki. I'm like Nikki. Okay, restaurant, you would
Speaker 1: do a great one. I think if you, if you
Speaker 1: have something on your mind, you know you would be
Speaker 1: like we've we've been grasping. I listened to your podcast
Speaker 1: every week. This is Kibosters. I don't think would you
Speaker 1: like to start? Would you do another? Yeah, I'm ready,
Speaker 1: I'm ready. This is Joel kim Boosters. I don't think so, honey.
Speaker 1: As time starts now, I don't think so honey. Photo dumps, Okay,
Speaker 1: do not put me in a photo dump. Okay, I
Speaker 1: am apprised to be one. I am not going to
Speaker 1: appear in a photo dump next to a landscape shot
Speaker 1: that you thought was artistic but were too ashamed to
Speaker 1: put on your grid. Sir, I do will not be
Speaker 1: side by side with a meme A meme no, not
Speaker 1: me and a meme. No No, I will not. I
Speaker 1: will be on the grid. I will be front and
Speaker 1: center because I have put in the world. Honey, I
Speaker 1: don't think so honey, photo dumps. You sound gross. You
Speaker 1: sound fecal nature, fecle in nature. You sound like something
Speaker 1: that goes in the toilet. And that's what you are.
Speaker 1: Photo dumps. You are something that goes in the toilet.
Speaker 1: Because I have never scrolled through a photo dump and
Speaker 1: enjoyed myself. I have never gone on that journey and
Speaker 1: gotten to the end and said that was worth my time.
Speaker 1: Stop putting photo d on Instagram. Respect yourself, respect me,
Speaker 1: and respect everyone's time. That's one minute. This is a
Speaker 1: true master of the form. For me, it's the word dump.
Speaker 1: That's what I object to. And I believe you know
Speaker 1: it's been so it's not the concept. So even if
Speaker 1: someone were to post a photos no, but you're saying,
Speaker 1: like all of it is, I think the content is
Speaker 1: bad too. Yeah, you know it's intentionally it's you're it's
Speaker 1: supposed to be. It's like intentionally ironic. It's it's too
Speaker 1: much of a wink. I don't think at any given
Speaker 1: time there's ten photos that haven't been posted to Grid
Speaker 1: by themselves that are worthy of Grid. And if it's
Speaker 1: the sixth thing and a photo dump, it's still Grid.
Speaker 1: And that's humiliating. And I would hate to be seventh
Speaker 1: and Grid. And this is I'm saying this as someone
Speaker 1: who's done this before, but I just called him a
Speaker 1: bunch of photos. I would never call him my photos
Speaker 1: are a bunch of photos. Here's a slide show. I
Speaker 1: think I'm showing my age a little bit. I think
Speaker 1: I am. I think I think my adherence to the
Speaker 1: grid and so of the specialness of the grid is
Speaker 1: my thirty three all the time on this podcast, because
Speaker 1: can I say something, We are in our thirties. We're
Speaker 1: in our thirties. Like people were saying the other day,
Speaker 1: did you watch the v M A S. This is
Speaker 1: a culture podcast. One of the music second biggest night
Speaker 1: happened the other night. No, I didn't watch it. We
Speaker 1: didn't watch so sorry, no I didn't. I don't know
Speaker 1: who they are. I don't know who the girls are.
Speaker 1: Some of them, we know some of them, don't we.
Speaker 1: There are a lot of people who are putting x's
Speaker 1: where vowels should be in their names and now we
Speaker 1: said and now we said it, and I don't like it. Okay, okay, okay,
Speaker 1: all right, in their names, just in their names. Yes,
Speaker 1: let's say this. This has been a real culture catch up.
Speaker 1: It really went in directions I didn't expect. And that's
Speaker 1: that's what makes for the best culture catch up. That's
Speaker 1: what the beautiful podcast episodes that we had our friend
Speaker 1: join us, our friend who really let's just we were
Speaker 1: that and I were very earnest with each other up
Speaker 1: top about about our experiences on this movie and just
Speaker 1: complimenting each other. We have to I think it is
Speaker 1: very It is very and we went intowards if we
Speaker 1: did not say that Joel Kim Booster number one, number
Speaker 1: one the call sheet wrote this movie, eping this movie,
Speaker 1: making decisions, creative decision rerunning scenes with this uh, you know,
Speaker 1: as as we're shooting and starring in the film, and
Speaker 1: then every scene I I tell I told him that
Speaker 1: I've talked to you about this so much throughout this process,
Speaker 1: I go, he's really done something incredible to Kim, Joel
Speaker 1: Kim bosh, He's written this movie that I don't think
Speaker 1: anyone I know could have done. We're very excited, We're
Speaker 1: very excited. We're so proud and grateful and we're so
Speaker 1: thankful that he brought us onto this. And you know
Speaker 1: what happened earlier today, which I think would actually be
Speaker 1: a good cap on the pod is we started broke
Speaker 1: out into a gorgeous harmony on a song will sing
Speaker 1: right now, but before we say, I want to say
Speaker 1: I saw I watched impeachment and I thought it was
Speaker 1: pretty good. Okay, and then now it's a complete culture
Speaker 1: catch up. Okay everyone, and a one and a two.
Speaker 1: Goodbye you, Goodbye to everything that I do. You're the
Speaker 1: one of one thing that I tried to hold on to,
Speaker 1: the one Goodbye you, Goodbye to everything that I knew. Well,
Speaker 1: You're the one I love, the one thing that I
Speaker 1: tried to hold on to, the one thing that I'm
Speaker 1: trying to hold Not for more of that from Essen,
Speaker 1: a spirit Mosha branch now celebrating its twentieth annivers Wow,
Speaker 1: we need her on the pottat her on the pot.
Speaker 1: Bye