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Speaker 1: that was the culic imagination whatever, and it was just

426
00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:23,359
Speaker 1: so sort of like like fruit fruit. I was like, okay,

427
00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:25,200
Speaker 1: but what is it? What are we expecting to see?

428
00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:26,720
Speaker 1: You know? You know what I love when it's when

429
00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:28,960
Speaker 1: it's based every now every every now and then they'll

430
00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:31,960
Speaker 1: do um based on designers, so they'll do a Christian

431
00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:36,199
Speaker 1: do your year, They'll do like uh whatever like that

432
00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:37,879
Speaker 1: was the most recent one, and that I love, like

433
00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:41,240
Speaker 1: everyone's taken coming gars. Yeah, I love when it's specific.

434
00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:44,200
Speaker 1: This is too broad. Yeah, and it almost feels like they,

435
00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:47,240
Speaker 1: like a lot of the celebrities didn't know what to

436
00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:49,199
Speaker 1: do with it, or they didn't want to do it.

437
00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:52,280
Speaker 1: Like I I think a lot of people look stunning.

438
00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:56,399
Speaker 1: I'm just wondering exactly how they are ruminations on the theme,

439
00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:59,000
Speaker 1: but I sort of leave the theme behind and I'm like, Okay,

440
00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:00,800
Speaker 1: the theme is what it is out. Yeah, it's just

441
00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:03,160
Speaker 1: about seeing that the people in the clothes and it's

442
00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:04,880
Speaker 1: so fun, right, how do they look? And I think

443
00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:07,359
Speaker 1: the chairs all looked really good. I thought Amanda Gorman

444
00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:11,879
Speaker 1: looked unbelievable, Timothy looked great, came in with a doll.

445
00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:15,760
Speaker 1: We love. That was sort of grow gou appreciation appreciation.

446
00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:19,280
Speaker 1: We love that. I mean, let's just say legends only.

447
00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:26,679
Speaker 1: I mean, Iman that was absolutely amazing. I mean, Billie

448
00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:30,480
Speaker 1: Eilish looked fast in Oscar de Laurenta. I believe, Yeah,

449
00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:32,200
Speaker 1: I mean like truly, I mean, there were there was

450
00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:35,600
Speaker 1: great ship happening. I would say, I don't even want

451
00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:37,840
Speaker 1: to really mention anyone that I don't think looked good.

452
00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:42,320
Speaker 1: Here's what else say. It's frustrating and humiliating to watch

453
00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:44,600
Speaker 1: someone show up in something hideous and then put on

454
00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:47,879
Speaker 1: like a fashion face. I'm like, oh, like you're like

455
00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:50,359
Speaker 1: you think they're trying too hard. Like when someone is

456
00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:53,560
Speaker 1: coming in with like that put them and there were

457
00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:58,040
Speaker 1: something like wrong. I mean that's like I'm like, we're

458
00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:00,520
Speaker 1: going to do that. Everyone's under that and show but

459
00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:03,480
Speaker 1: you know, like it's just a phase that everyone has

460
00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:05,960
Speaker 1: to go through, you know, it's just like you got

461
00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:08,600
Speaker 1: to be able to like perceive yours. I'm on this

462
00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:11,560
Speaker 1: journey where I'm like I am, I'm learning through this

463
00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:15,160
Speaker 1: process to like know what I look like and how

464
00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:18,919
Speaker 1: I look my best. I think I think people are

465
00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:21,040
Speaker 1: on their own journey, you know what. I also think

466
00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:23,639
Speaker 1: it's often not up to the people that look bad

467
00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:27,919
Speaker 1: on the roadway and that that the more you that's

468
00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:31,440
Speaker 1: and that's isn't that so sad? Like it's not their fault. Yes,

469
00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:34,639
Speaker 1: it's just like this is why, Well, I don't know,

470
00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:38,040
Speaker 1: Like I read something with Resorts where she's like and

471
00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:40,720
Speaker 1: she's like privileged to do this, but she's like for

472
00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:43,639
Speaker 1: every red carpet thing she has like six stresses there

473
00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:46,480
Speaker 1: and she never actually makes a decision until the day,

474
00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:49,840
Speaker 1: which I didn't know that's something that they did. Yeah,

475
00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:52,840
Speaker 1: they can do that. I mean like typically it's like

476
00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:56,320
Speaker 1: a lot of people don't finalize their look until like

477
00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:59,000
Speaker 1: days before something, especially for big events like the oscars

478
00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:01,800
Speaker 1: of the mac Gallery are like big, big, big thing,

479
00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:03,679
Speaker 1: because you don't want to be married to something that

480
00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:06,800
Speaker 1: you then put on and feel bad exact and then

481
00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:09,680
Speaker 1: there's no there's no recourse after that. There's no simply

482
00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:13,000
Speaker 1: no recourse, simply none. And so it's also just like

483
00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:17,480
Speaker 1: imagine going like the stress of that. That's a big

484
00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:20,400
Speaker 1: one because literally it's not even just like I get

485
00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:22,399
Speaker 1: to go and enjoy it, it's I get to go

486
00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:28,439
Speaker 1: and primarily be a topic of fashion discussion, which is

487
00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:33,359
Speaker 1: just checked by someone. And there's also no just great yeah,

488
00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:36,360
Speaker 1: and but but what I mean is like there's no

489
00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:41,120
Speaker 1: there's no bigger assumption that someone takes themselves seriously more

490
00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:45,120
Speaker 1: than them arriving at the met Gala and like being

491
00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:47,560
Speaker 1: like here's my look, because if you're one of those

492
00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:51,440
Speaker 1: people that's they're being photographed in a met Gala look

493
00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:56,680
Speaker 1: because you are invited that says to everyone like, oh no, yeah,

494
00:26:57,000 --> 00:27:00,560
Speaker 1: I I take myself this seriously and I'm venting this

495
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:03,600
Speaker 1: to you as not only fashion but art and like

496
00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:09,040
Speaker 1: cultural discussion. So have at it. And that is brave

497
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:12,480
Speaker 1: because you're really putting yourself out there in the most

498
00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:15,880
Speaker 1: high risk way. Yeah, because that's like if you look,

499
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:17,520
Speaker 1: if you're a flop and then people are going to

500
00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:21,640
Speaker 1: be talking for our prolonged period of time. Bat Yeah, yeah,

501
00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:25,480
Speaker 1: I mean so, so in that way, it's bravery and truth.

502
00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:28,560
Speaker 1: It is brave. No, I'm literally and this is okay.

503
00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:32,240
Speaker 1: Some fucking idiot's gonna think we're like stumping for celebrity rights. No,

504
00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:35,919
Speaker 1: but it's just like psychologically that has to have some

505
00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:38,160
Speaker 1: effect on you. Here's what I'll say. Four years ago,

506
00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:40,000
Speaker 1: I might have gotten on this podcast and been like

507
00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:43,160
Speaker 1: so and so looked direct flop whatever. But now now

508
00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:44,960
Speaker 1: that I know a little bit more about it, I'm

509
00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:50,480
Speaker 1: gonna be a little nicer. And that's actually g r

510
00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:56,200
Speaker 1: w t H growth growth. Natasha Rothwell Gift posted, Now

511
00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:59,679
Speaker 1: we don't we don't drag anyone for looking bad at

512
00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:01,320
Speaker 1: the met gallop because you know what, maybe it was

513
00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:04,960
Speaker 1: someone else. Maybe so many things could go wrong. So

514
00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:14,280
Speaker 1: many things could go wrong. By the way, this is

515
00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:16,560
Speaker 1: just again if you can't tell by now, this is

516
00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:18,520
Speaker 1: just a culture recap episode we'ven't done when this is

517
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:20,960
Speaker 1: a culture catch up? Culture catchup? Culture, I'm sorry, culture

518
00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:23,920
Speaker 1: catch up? Culture catch up? Did I mistermed? It so

519
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:25,879
Speaker 1: much culture to talk about? And wait, we sort of

520
00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:29,400
Speaker 1: touched on Saltlake at the top, Yeah, we did, say Joe,

521
00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:33,359
Speaker 1: Joe can okay, so he said that he wanted to

522
00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:35,120
Speaker 1: come in and talk about salt Lake with us because

523
00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:37,560
Speaker 1: last night we all watched salt Lake together. Now here's

524
00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:39,720
Speaker 1: the thing. Um, Like I said, I saw it a

525
00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:42,440
Speaker 1: few weeks ago, and I have I had even sent

526
00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:44,600
Speaker 1: the link to my sisters. But I'm actually really happy

527
00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:47,480
Speaker 1: that we all waited to discuss it together. Joe Kim's here,

528
00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:53,400
Speaker 1: Um now say hi hello. So um. Basically, what we

529
00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:55,880
Speaker 1: found was that it was one of the best episodes

530
00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:58,960
Speaker 1: of Housewives in recent memory, and we also felt that

531
00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:04,479
Speaker 1: it was far and away a best season opener. Oh

532
00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:07,000
Speaker 1: my god, I mean what what were our general thoughts?

533
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:10,200
Speaker 1: I think the ladies, after a season of watching themselves,

534
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:12,640
Speaker 1: have sort of awoken in the machine a little bit,

535
00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:16,840
Speaker 1: and they understand what they need. They understand the assignment

536
00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:19,560
Speaker 1: better as often they do in the second seasons of

537
00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:23,600
Speaker 1: these shows, Like they know that they are now archetypes.

538
00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:26,760
Speaker 1: They are not human beings. They no longer exist as

539
00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:29,520
Speaker 1: humans to us. But it's a thing where all of

540
00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:32,480
Speaker 1: them know are plugging in in the right way, because

541
00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:35,120
Speaker 1: sometimes you get housewives who watched themselves on TV for

542
00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:38,160
Speaker 1: one season and then they kind of change course in

543
00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:41,080
Speaker 1: a way that is not great for them. And I

544
00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:43,320
Speaker 1: think all of them understand what they should do, but

545
00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:46,120
Speaker 1: they were gonna except for except for Heather. I think

546
00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:50,040
Speaker 1: Heather is gunning for a bad second. Yeah, what I'll

547
00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:53,120
Speaker 1: say about Heather, I think Heather is is again gauging

548
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:55,440
Speaker 1: it wrong. I think she's playing and she was like

549
00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:58,800
Speaker 1: I told you guys about what she really flopped and

550
00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:01,160
Speaker 1: watch what Happens live being like, I think that Jen's

551
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:03,720
Speaker 1: business is unsavory. I've thought that from the beginning of

552
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:06,840
Speaker 1: Her Friend because she's fun and smart. It's like, honey,

553
00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:09,280
Speaker 1: that's not how that's not what fun and smart people do.

554
00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:14,080
Speaker 1: But I will say that she'll be watchable and she'll

555
00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:17,239
Speaker 1: be a good housewife, and every single one of them

556
00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:19,680
Speaker 1: are going to be good housewives. They're all set up,

557
00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:22,400
Speaker 1: but Heather will just be confounding. Especially You'll be like,

558
00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:25,200
Speaker 1: what are you doing? I mean you Also, you often

559
00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:29,560
Speaker 1: see this, I think with UH, with either girls who

560
00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:32,400
Speaker 1: are going into their second season or with this show

561
00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:35,520
Speaker 1: it's the second season. In general, she's going in high

562
00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:39,040
Speaker 1: of her own supply and oh how the mighty will fall.

563
00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:41,160
Speaker 1: We see it. We saw this this season. We saw

564
00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:44,360
Speaker 1: this season with Leah, we saw it with Um. Let

565
00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:47,440
Speaker 1: us not forget Leanne Lockin coming off an amazing season

566
00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:50,239
Speaker 1: from season four to season five, Culture number fourteen, let

567
00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:54,200
Speaker 1: us not forget um. It happens all the time, and

568
00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:56,880
Speaker 1: they and she will be humbled. She will be hung

569
00:30:57,000 --> 00:31:00,400
Speaker 1: absolutely And it's the people. It's the real to follow

570
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:03,479
Speaker 1: that always fox these women up. I have to confront

571
00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:06,680
Speaker 1: Joe Kim because I have to. This is one of

572
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:09,400
Speaker 1: my favorite things to do. Let's confront people on the podcast.

573
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:13,000
Speaker 1: So we're sort of sitting here in Ben Bowen's bedroom,

574
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:15,840
Speaker 1: like watching the show last night, and we start with

575
00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:19,640
Speaker 1: Lisa going over to Jen's house, and about six times

576
00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:21,600
Speaker 1: during the episode, Joel Kim turned to me and said,

577
00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:24,200
Speaker 1: you are Lisa. You are Lisa, You are Lisa to

578
00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:26,040
Speaker 1: the point where I started to feel like a drag.

579
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:28,960
Speaker 1: But I want you to know that Lisa's powerful this season,

580
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:32,080
Speaker 1: and Lisa is riding a trojan horse, and I do

581
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:34,360
Speaker 1: I agree with her in the conflict with Meredith, which

582
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:36,880
Speaker 1: is going to become a conflict. No, but Lisa is

583
00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:38,280
Speaker 1: here as a house I have to stay. And people

584
00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:40,560
Speaker 1: said she was going to be out soon. I don't think.

585
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:43,040
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think she's out soon. And it

586
00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:45,600
Speaker 1: was not a drag. I simply believe that you are

587
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:48,360
Speaker 1: an active listener in the same way that Lisa is

588
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:53,320
Speaker 1: an active listen. I would be telling you, like literally,

589
00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:55,360
Speaker 1: any time I tell you a story, it is a

590
00:31:55,360 --> 00:32:02,200
Speaker 1: lot of amazingly. I love that, love that, and I

591
00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:07,719
Speaker 1: love this. I love this. I also do I do

592
00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:11,000
Speaker 1: respect anyone that rides from fast food place to fast

593
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:15,000
Speaker 1: food place and like her Mercedes, she still looks like that,

594
00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:18,240
Speaker 1: feel that she's your sister because of her passion for

595
00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:21,920
Speaker 1: diet coke. Yes, I do feel connected to her about that.

596
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:25,120
Speaker 1: I do feel connected about that. I would like to

597
00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:27,680
Speaker 1: transition us now, because if you're calling me out, then

598
00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:31,560
Speaker 1: I I want to start by simply bringing up the

599
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:35,840
Speaker 1: topic of Mary m Cosby. Okay, we have we we

600
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:37,680
Speaker 1: we brought up at the beginning, but let's really dig.

601
00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:41,320
Speaker 1: First of all, I just want to say that I

602
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:43,920
Speaker 1: think Mary is sort of poised to become one of

603
00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:49,320
Speaker 1: our greatest housewives legendary. I believe that she is great

604
00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:53,560
Speaker 1: and and I believe that she is incredible and amazing

605
00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:55,320
Speaker 1: for the show, and that she is dangerous and she'd

606
00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:58,520
Speaker 1: be removed from television immediately. Um, I fear from my life.

607
00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:00,480
Speaker 1: I fear for the lives that those around her. I

608
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:03,120
Speaker 1: think she's dangerous. I think it's she is an incredible

609
00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:08,400
Speaker 1: piece of television history. She is anti narrative, anti narrative.

610
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:10,480
Speaker 1: We were saying, we were saying, the three of us

611
00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:14,000
Speaker 1: that the podcast is anti structure. Yeah, well, when when

612
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:16,960
Speaker 1: Mary m cosby comes on Housewives of Salt Lake City,

613
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:20,520
Speaker 1: the show actually becomes avant garde, It becomes it becomes

614
00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:22,640
Speaker 1: theater of the mind, it becomes odyssey of the mind,

615
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:28,720
Speaker 1: it becomes sort of journey into another level of the conscious. Yeah,

616
00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:33,000
Speaker 1: because she says things like I don't belong in this world,

617
00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:36,960
Speaker 1: and she says I don't trust human beings, and then

618
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:39,280
Speaker 1: she sort of gets into it. I was born by God,

619
00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:42,520
Speaker 1: I was born for God. These sort of things which

620
00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:45,360
Speaker 1: are so And then when she's when they cut to

621
00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:48,280
Speaker 1: her in her hat and she says, UM, I don't

622
00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:50,560
Speaker 1: want to drink Jen's friendship juice. That's the sort of

623
00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:53,719
Speaker 1: stuff that creeps me out. Excuse me out. I'm like,

624
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:57,560
Speaker 1: I never it's always reaction, but never enough reaction. Also,

625
00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:01,840
Speaker 1: where's it coming from. I've never seen someone literally move

626
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:06,960
Speaker 1: through space like she knows talking to herself. I'm like,

627
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:12,160
Speaker 1: this is really really unsettling because I've not seen a

628
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:15,200
Speaker 1: human being like this ever in my life. And let

629
00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:19,239
Speaker 1: it be known that her podcast completely missing from the Internet.

630
00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:22,759
Speaker 1: Those mics were not plugged in. Um. And here's where

631
00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:26,280
Speaker 1: the call up comes in, because again I do love Mary.

632
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:28,680
Speaker 1: She is my in my top five. I think she's

633
00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:31,920
Speaker 1: a terrorist. I think she needs She's obviously taking advantage

634
00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:34,319
Speaker 1: of people, and she is maybe one of the most

635
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:37,680
Speaker 1: evil people to ever appear on a Bravo reality television show.

636
00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:41,120
Speaker 1: And I believe that her rise can be directly attributed

637
00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:46,360
Speaker 1: to your platforming of this awful, amazing person. I agree,

638
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:50,000
Speaker 1: and I have no regrets regrets what we did say.

639
00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:52,560
Speaker 1: I think someone there was a bad news there was

640
00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:54,440
Speaker 1: a bad news day for her, and then you and

641
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:56,560
Speaker 1: I texted each other like we have to resist. We

642
00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:59,400
Speaker 1: almost said we have to get on and do a

643
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:02,400
Speaker 1: whole episod resending that whole episode, which would have been

644
00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:04,520
Speaker 1: too much, Which would have been too much. I don't

645
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:07,319
Speaker 1: stand by it. I think I kind of agree with

646
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:09,640
Speaker 1: Joel and I think we should. We should, we should

647
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:11,399
Speaker 1: present the day. I guess what we have to say

648
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:14,560
Speaker 1: again is watch this space Space Um. Whitney dropping the

649
00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:20,040
Speaker 1: cake was iconography perfection, rule of the perfection. That was

650
00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:22,759
Speaker 1: a great moment um. I thought all of meredith scenes

651
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:24,760
Speaker 1: were good. We got to see a deeper side of Meredith.

652
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:27,680
Speaker 1: I think Meredith is poised to have the best the Queen.

653
00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:31,800
Speaker 1: I think that Meredith is positioning herself very much in

654
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:33,960
Speaker 1: the way that Kyle has managed to do in a

655
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:38,080
Speaker 1: lot of ways, in that Kyle is sort of the

656
00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:40,840
Speaker 1: conduit for a lot of personal drama in her own

657
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:44,399
Speaker 1: life without being in conflict with a lot of the LVP,

658
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:48,200
Speaker 1: notwithstanding some of that stuff. But but, but there are

659
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:50,560
Speaker 1: a few housewives that you can sort of settle into

660
00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:54,239
Speaker 1: and watch them deal with personal family drama without the

661
00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:57,000
Speaker 1: conflict with the other women. Now she's obviously activating a

662
00:35:57,000 --> 00:36:02,040
Speaker 1: little bit more this season is engay James Meredith speak um.

663
00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:05,120
Speaker 1: But I I also I I'm happy to watch her

664
00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:08,560
Speaker 1: go through her marriage problems. I'm happy to watch her

665
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:10,799
Speaker 1: deal with her father's death. I'm happy to watch her

666
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:14,520
Speaker 1: put a dog in a sweater. I'm there, sweater. The

667
00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:18,840
Speaker 1: product placement was on point, she said, exactly, assignment, my

668
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:21,839
Speaker 1: fashion assignment. I find her to be very compelling, and

669
00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:25,719
Speaker 1: I find her resistance to drama in itself a drama. Well,

670
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:30,680
Speaker 1: it's not resistance to drama because she has a very

671
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:35,080
Speaker 1: very steadfast value system. Let's say, I mean her talking

672
00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:37,920
Speaker 1: about Brooks and protecting Brooks of sexuality in a way

673
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:39,800
Speaker 1: that is kind of bogus. But to be like, Brooks

674
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:44,799
Speaker 1: has never talked to and he was referred to as

675
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:48,360
Speaker 1: a twig, as a twig specifically, there was one post

676
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:52,920
Speaker 1: referring to him as that was and that there is

677
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:55,480
Speaker 1: now a narrative. We are now existing in the world

678
00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:58,840
Speaker 1: where brooks marks of sexuality is in question, and this

679
00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:02,160
Speaker 1: in his sexual He's barely spoken about it, even to me,

680
00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:06,640
Speaker 1: let it alone, to jen Shaw my family. She I

681
00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:11,440
Speaker 1: mean it's I Connar. I have done nothing to Jenneha.

682
00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:15,120
Speaker 1: This is what I think about Meredith. In any good show,

683
00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:16,880
Speaker 1: you have a will they or won't they? Will they

684
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:22,120
Speaker 1: won't they narrative? Thank you Rachel and Ross or Ross

685
00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:26,000
Speaker 1: and Rachel. Either way it could work. Um, the will

686
00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:29,600
Speaker 1: they won't pay thank you? It's another one. Um. And

687
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:32,920
Speaker 1: the will they won't they of salt Lake is Meredith,

688
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:37,399
Speaker 1: and the narrative the will they won't of salt Lake

689
00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:40,440
Speaker 1: is Meredith Marks and the narrative of the show. Is

690
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:44,160
Speaker 1: she too good for it? Or is she going to

691
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:47,880
Speaker 1: get messy? And we've we've we have answered the question.

692
00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:52,279
Speaker 1: She called the Feds, She called the fends and they're

693
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:54,719
Speaker 1: that they're insinuating that she called Defends on Jen which,

694
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:56,359
Speaker 1: by the way, we haven't even brought up Jen which

695
00:37:56,400 --> 00:38:00,600
Speaker 1: is insane that this episode went was chocked of enough

696
00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:07,279
Speaker 1: that we're not even talking about biggest Jester flop nominee

697
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:10,680
Speaker 1: Jen Shaw of the Real househ of Salt Lake City.

698
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:14,360
Speaker 1: She is almost definitely going to jail. And we saw

699
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:19,239
Speaker 1: the first minute or so of the episode depicted the

700
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:23,839
Speaker 1: actual fleeing of the beauty lab scene that was jen

701
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:26,520
Speaker 1: Shaw getting the call that she was going to be

702
00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:32,160
Speaker 1: arrested in the two months earlier cut away, she says

703
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:36,000
Speaker 1: to who to Lisa, you know I would go to

704
00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:40,160
Speaker 1: jail for you. I haven't gone to jail yet. Five

705
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:44,319
Speaker 1: star episodes there was no I And this is this

706
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 1: in a golden era of housewives, And we can all

707
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:49,200
Speaker 1: agree in an episode where pretty much every episode of

708
00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:52,040
Speaker 1: Beverly Hills is almost five stars, if not at least four.

709
00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:55,080
Speaker 1: I've enjoyed various Potomic has been great, and Potoma continues

710
00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:57,239
Speaker 1: to be great. I definitely like we're at a little

711
00:38:57,239 --> 00:39:00,200
Speaker 1: bit of a stall um. And this is the think

712
00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:03,120
Speaker 1: the first episode that we thought maybe a scular needs

713
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:06,200
Speaker 1: to give more. Yeah, lots of shots of Escalat putting

714
00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:10,080
Speaker 1: food in our mouth this week. It's and she's only

715
00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:13,040
Speaker 1: had one confessional. Look this whole time, hasn't she We

716
00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:16,240
Speaker 1: need more? Um, I just want to really quickly quote

717
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:23,000
Speaker 1: Meredith Marx again, horrible despicable, repugnant things. Yeah, I mean

718
00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:27,160
Speaker 1: just just wonderful, wonderful poetry there hits the air just right.

719
00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:29,719
Speaker 1: And also, this is another thing about Whitney. I want

720
00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:31,600
Speaker 1: to just jump back to her. It's very hard for

721
00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:33,879
Speaker 1: me to hear anyone say the words work hard, play hard,

722
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:36,319
Speaker 1: and we still like them. And when she said that

723
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:39,480
Speaker 1: she was teaching her adult step children that she works

724
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:41,920
Speaker 1: hard and play hard and they tend too, I was like,

725
00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:44,400
Speaker 1: you know what, that's actually good and those kids need that.

726
00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:46,720
Speaker 1: Those twenty nine year old men that are her son's

727
00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:50,200
Speaker 1: need a figure like her to show them work hard,

728
00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:53,480
Speaker 1: play hard, and that's all. That's all Mormons want. A

729
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:56,239
Speaker 1: twenty year old Mormon in their twenties wants to hear

730
00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:59,239
Speaker 1: or to really internalizes the work hard, play hard. That's

731
00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:00,880
Speaker 1: what Lula ro is all about. I can't wait to

732
00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:05,359
Speaker 1: watch Lula watch Lula Rich. Have you heard about Lula Rich? Um?

733
00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:07,879
Speaker 1: I only know about it in the context of that

734
00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:11,520
Speaker 1: man being upset about Kelly Clarkson, that is the lightning

735
00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:15,839
Speaker 1: rod of controversy. Yes, Unfortunately, watched Yanks interview. So now

736
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:17,719
Speaker 1: I'm with two people who have been on the Kelly

737
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:19,839
Speaker 1: Clarkson Show, and I am her biggest fan, and I'm

738
00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:22,600
Speaker 1: not one of them. We just watched Bowen Yanks charming

739
00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:25,520
Speaker 1: interview on her was fine, it was I was nervous, um.

740
00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:28,880
Speaker 1: But she apparently is featured in the Lula Rich documentary.

741
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:31,840
Speaker 1: I guess because she performed a private concert. She performed

742
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:35,680
Speaker 1: concert for Lula Row, which actually makes a perfect amount

743
00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:39,160
Speaker 1: of sense. But, um, we're gonna watch the documentary. I

744
00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:41,680
Speaker 1: might even watch it tonight with my friends if you wish.

745
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:44,400
Speaker 1: That's insane. We have to be up in like six hours.

746
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:49,520
Speaker 1: Well they've been early causes suggest watching Lula Rich when

747
00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:51,000
Speaker 1: we have to be up in six hours. I would

748
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:53,960
Speaker 1: love to watch an informative documentary with my friend where what?

749
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:56,640
Speaker 1: What network? Is it? A Prime? It's on the Amazon Prime?

750
00:40:56,760 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 1: What's huge for them? You know? I actually what I mean?

751
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:03,200
Speaker 1: And the streaming wars. They didn't have a big Landmark

752
00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:06,360
Speaker 1: doc and now they're going to have one. Before before

753
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:10,759
Speaker 1: I let Joel float off back into sleepytown. UM, I

754
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:15,200
Speaker 1: want to know your thoughts, everyone's thoughts on new housewife Jenny. Jenny?

755
00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:17,920
Speaker 1: What do we think of her compelling personal narrative and backstory?

756
00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:23,799
Speaker 1: An interesting and interesting, compelling personal narrative. Um, we I

757
00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:26,799
Speaker 1: need to see more. I need to see more. I

758
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:31,319
Speaker 1: will say this is my problem with Jenny is that

759
00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:35,520
Speaker 1: she's not making a big enough play at sort of

760
00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:39,680
Speaker 1: the branding, like right off the bat her her tagline, um,

761
00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:41,839
Speaker 1: I have enough of everything? Even secrets. What is it?

762
00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:46,600
Speaker 1: I have enough of everything, especially opinions, especially opinions. Something

763
00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:49,600
Speaker 1: like that, very generic stuff could have been could be

764
00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:53,560
Speaker 1: said of any housewife, and that's tough. And based on

765
00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:55,920
Speaker 1: the trailer clips of her, it seems like she's just

766
00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:58,880
Speaker 1: kind of pulling conflict out of thin air in a

767
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:00,760
Speaker 1: way that doesn't fel it was an not working out

768
00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:03,479
Speaker 1: me is not working out in no star quality there either,

769
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:07,920
Speaker 1: UM it does. It is interesting that, um, they really

770
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:12,720
Speaker 1: pulled the lever and said we will have Asian women

771
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:17,440
Speaker 1: on base franchises. There's one on every franchise. They're really

772
00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:22,000
Speaker 1: sort of they're they're colonizing every city. They're colonizing. Asians

773
00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:26,680
Speaker 1: are colonizing. And it's interesting that she still fits within

774
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:30,239
Speaker 1: this sort of me this theme of Salt Lake City,

775
00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:33,839
Speaker 1: which is, oh, you have a religious person, and here

776
00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:37,520
Speaker 1: we have Catholicism represented. I would like to see I

777
00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:41,080
Speaker 1: would like to see a predominantly Asian housewife city. I

778
00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:45,120
Speaker 1: think something in the Bay Area, something that that you know,

779
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:48,560
Speaker 1: or retool Orange County to be mostly Asian. Sure, oh

780
00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:51,239
Speaker 1: my god, that would be great. I want to see that.

781
00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:54,520
Speaker 1: I want to see that on my TV. Yes, yes,

782
00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:57,160
Speaker 1: that see it, I would like to see it. Um. Wait,

783
00:42:57,160 --> 00:42:59,160
Speaker 1: there was one other thing. There was one other thing,

784
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:03,840
Speaker 1: um the taglines. So I think we we've all agreed

785
00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:08,120
Speaker 1: that this fleet of taglines was amongst the best, one

786
00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:10,879
Speaker 1: of the best. Um, but I think we all can

787
00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:15,240
Speaker 1: say together what the number one maybe best Housewives tagline?

788
00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:17,680
Speaker 1: And this is gonna really close the loop on the

789
00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:21,399
Speaker 1: beginning of the beginning of this episode, which is, if

790
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:25,839
Speaker 1: you come for me, I will send Jesus after you.

791
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:31,280
Speaker 1: And it doesn't get scarier or bigger than Jesus. Truly,

792
00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:35,319
Speaker 1: I feel the impact. Still, it has not worn off well.

793
00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:40,080
Speaker 1: And we have seen women weaponized Christianity on these shows.

794
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:44,680
Speaker 1: We've seen women sort of based their entire thing around Christianity.

795
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:49,399
Speaker 1: Never have we seen someone evoke Jesus name in such

796
00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:54,120
Speaker 1: a way as if she hired like a friend, a

797
00:43:54,239 --> 00:44:01,399
Speaker 1: hit man Jesus. Imagine Jesus chasing you down scarier than

798
00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:05,879
Speaker 1: arriving in a dark, dark like alleyway, and Jesus come

799
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:09,279
Speaker 1: after you. Would you would really second guest, and he

800
00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:12,480
Speaker 1: pens you down, and you in your dying breath, the

801
00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:14,759
Speaker 1: last thing you say is who sent you? And he

802
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:19,479
Speaker 1: says Mary M. Cosby, my close personal friend, my sister

803
00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:25,440
Speaker 1: who was born of me. Truly, I have chills. I

804
00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:29,640
Speaker 1: have chills. I've I've ever experienced the television show like this.

805
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:33,239
Speaker 1: It is I think with one episode out the gate,

806
00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:35,839
Speaker 1: you realize that first the first season of the show

807
00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:38,879
Speaker 1: actually was even in the moments where it didn't feel

808
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:41,359
Speaker 1: like it was popping off, everything was essential. Every woman

809
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:45,200
Speaker 1: is set up for success. The narratives are we scream

810
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:49,120
Speaker 1: laughing every time we see Whitney say we are in danger.

811
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:54,480
Speaker 1: She's not who she says she is. At least she's

812
00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:56,160
Speaker 1: not who she says she I just don't think she

813
00:44:56,360 --> 00:44:59,360
Speaker 1: is who think who she says she is? Whatever it

814
00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:04,280
Speaker 1: is shaking. I gotta say even the commercials, even the commercials,

815
00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:17,280
Speaker 1: from the commercials that played during the episodes, that woman

816
00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:24,920
Speaker 1: it's from It's from some movie. That woman is a disruptor.

817
00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:27,759
Speaker 1: I mean really good stuff. On brab without Top to Bob,

818
00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:39,680
Speaker 1: we were speaking of um just words like disruptor, trespassing.

819
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:43,360
Speaker 1: Candice Stiller Bassett heard about her lost culture Risso's Cultural

820
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:49,120
Speaker 1: Award nominations and she said, she said, what categories exclamation point? Question?

821
00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:51,959
Speaker 1: Someone said at Candice, I can't believe. What a thrill

822
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:53,759
Speaker 1: for her to be nominated in three categories the same

823
00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:55,799
Speaker 1: number of categories at drill Boosters. Do you have any

824
00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:59,680
Speaker 1: response to your three nominations. UM, I have to say, um,

825
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:04,680
Speaker 1: and I heard about them. UM, I was shocked. UM.

826
00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:07,920
Speaker 1: I will say, UM. I do feel like I am

827
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:12,319
Speaker 1: sort of being set up to lose uh for the joke,

828
00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:14,560
Speaker 1: and I'm fine with that. No, I'm fine with that,

829
00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:17,200
Speaker 1: even though I understand what the joke would be. I

830
00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:19,479
Speaker 1: think it's pretty clear what the joke is. I feel

831
00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:22,160
Speaker 1: like that what's clear is that Matt and I will

832
00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:25,600
Speaker 1: lose our categories, but the people who really deserve the

833
00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:29,160
Speaker 1: awards and will be publicized heavily will win, and you

834
00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:31,719
Speaker 1: will deserve whoever the funniest game man is, We'll win

835
00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:34,600
Speaker 1: whoever had the funniest. I don't think somebody whoever should

836
00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:37,480
Speaker 1: deserve the joy Bey Harst for coming. I think it's

837
00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:39,319
Speaker 1: it's just gonna come down to who did the best

838
00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:42,000
Speaker 1: stand up we actually I have. I don't even know

839
00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:44,600
Speaker 1: who else is nominated, but besides me and Pat for

840
00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:47,440
Speaker 1: the joy Behart one, it's you carried Katy Perry for

841
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:48,840
Speaker 1: her work in the in the VM as when she

842
00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:52,359
Speaker 1: hosted Okay the VMAs. Okay, that makes sense, that makes

843
00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:54,520
Speaker 1: a lot of and I think between the three of you,

844
00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:57,600
Speaker 1: and it's a dead heat. It's a dead Remember I

845
00:46:57,600 --> 00:47:00,160
Speaker 1: was gonna say it's been clear front runners it No,

846
00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:04,640
Speaker 1: it's the Joy Behar Award for Comedy. It's not Best

847
00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:07,160
Speaker 1: stand Up. It's so it's I don't know why I

848
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Speaker 1: have to explain it. And this is the thing. Some

849
00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:13,840
Speaker 1: of those some of those awards, uh, the Namesake Awards,

850
00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:16,960
Speaker 1: the Namesakes were nominated Tina Turner was dominated for the

851
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Speaker 1: Tina Turner she was nominated. Joy Behart was not nominated

852
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Speaker 1: for the Joy She was Joy Behart. It's kind of

853
00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:27,040
Speaker 1: like Diablo Cody Award for Screenwriting? Do you have locally

854
00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:29,959
Speaker 1: for Young Adult? And NIA ardallos from my big record Wedding,

855
00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:32,680
Speaker 1: And it's just gonna come down to who deserves the

856
00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:37,200
Speaker 1: Diablo Cody Award for Screenwriting. Doesn't mean one of those

857
00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:39,840
Speaker 1: scripts that Diablo Cody wrote is the winner. And I

858
00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:42,560
Speaker 1: don't really understand why I have to explain this. No, no, no, no,

859
00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:44,480
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I'm sorry to make you explain that. I'm

860
00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:48,120
Speaker 1: just saying I just want to really disprove this notion

861
00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:50,080
Speaker 1: that Joel has that he is being set up to lose.

862
00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:53,000
Speaker 1: He thinks it's a bit, he thinks being set up

863
00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:56,760
Speaker 1: for a joke. He said, this is a month long process,

864
00:47:56,800 --> 00:48:00,480
Speaker 1: this is an awards season. It's very serious. Get out

865
00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:04,880
Speaker 1: of here. I will say. I approached Matt on set,

866
00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:09,040
Speaker 1: I'll say it on set even and he was hunched

867
00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:15,560
Speaker 1: over his phone, hunched, hunched, hunched over his phone, and

868
00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:18,760
Speaker 1: I said, what are you doing? And you said, I'm voting.

869
00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:21,719
Speaker 1: And I thought maybe in the California recall election that

870
00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:25,120
Speaker 1: in my ballot was counted and if you haven't voted

871
00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:29,520
Speaker 1: in you must, um, And he was. It was the

872
00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:32,760
Speaker 1: It was actually the ballot for the last Culturalis Award.

873
00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:34,520
Speaker 1: And he said. He looked me down in the eyes

874
00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:36,680
Speaker 1: and he said, I don't think you're gonna win. You

875
00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:41,480
Speaker 1: said that. I don't remember saying that you did. You did?

876
00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:46,799
Speaker 1: How dare you? I don't. I didn't say that. I

877
00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:51,560
Speaker 1: think you look guilty, look of guilty. Um. It might

878
00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:55,000
Speaker 1: have been. It might have been more so that you

879
00:48:55,040 --> 00:48:59,080
Speaker 1: were saying I'm not voting for you, which he only

880
00:48:59,120 --> 00:49:01,080
Speaker 1: has one. I would never or say who I voted for.

881
00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:04,719
Speaker 1: I haven't voted for anybody. I've never in any election

882
00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:06,560
Speaker 1: said who I voted for. I don't think it's right

883
00:49:06,560 --> 00:49:10,239
Speaker 1: to talk about politics, race, religion, creed, or politics. We're

884
00:49:10,239 --> 00:49:13,920
Speaker 1: not talking about that. Not. No, I'm like Ramona. I

885
00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:18,920
Speaker 1: don't like talking about race, religion, creed, girlfriends, my girlfriends,

886
00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:23,120
Speaker 1: sexy girlfriends stuff, grids. Um, speaking of sexy girlfriend stuff,

887
00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:26,239
Speaker 1: do you have anything to say about the following topics? Um?

888
00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:30,520
Speaker 1: Kylie Souniq wins Drag Race, amazing love. As soon as

889
00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:33,759
Speaker 1: she tripped and recovered, I said, there's the winner going

890
00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:35,400
Speaker 1: in a sentence, what do you think about Kylie Son

891
00:49:35,560 --> 00:49:38,560
Speaker 1: winning Drags? What a beautiful journey, What a true full

892
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:42,440
Speaker 1: redemption arc in a season of many redemption arcs. What

893
00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:45,480
Speaker 1: a lovely thing to end on her sort of you know,

894
00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:48,919
Speaker 1: really triumphing beautiful? I would say, I agree. I think

895
00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:53,000
Speaker 1: that also, I don't really know who else would have won. Um. Okay,

896
00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:55,160
Speaker 1: now I want to give you to have a one

897
00:49:55,320 --> 00:50:00,440
Speaker 1: sentence review of Casey mos Grave's Star Cross Jill kim Um,

898
00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:04,160
Speaker 1: I hope she gets ten more divorces. That really has

899
00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:08,520
Speaker 1: provided good work. Bon yang Uh, I will say cherry

900
00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:14,640
Speaker 1: Blossoms is an acceptable moment of musical appropriation of Asian culture.

901
00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:17,440
Speaker 1: And I was wondering if you thought that, because I

902
00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:19,879
Speaker 1: said I really like this song when it started, and said,

903
00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:23,120
Speaker 1: you said, is that cherry Blossoms? And I said yes?

904
00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:25,440
Speaker 1: And then I wondered if you didn't like the sungs?

905
00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:28,560
Speaker 1: And what end did I go? No, I love that song.

906
00:50:28,640 --> 00:50:31,200
Speaker 1: I really loved you. It's a gorgeous song. And she

907
00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:32,759
Speaker 1: and she and she throws in some like fun like

908
00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:37,440
Speaker 1: Japanese like whatever, like one influences public trans and no,

909
00:50:37,520 --> 00:50:41,200
Speaker 1: she loves Japan. She loves Japan. What what, Joel? I

910
00:50:41,239 --> 00:50:42,920
Speaker 1: want her to come out like Katie Perry at the

911
00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:47,920
Speaker 1: Vehomesolcation unconditionally. I thought you were saying she should come

912
00:50:47,960 --> 00:50:51,560
Speaker 1: out and stand. I don't think so. Can I say,

913
00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:53,560
Speaker 1: I don't think Katy Musgraves would be as good a

914
00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:56,360
Speaker 1: comedian as Katie. I really don't know this, but she

915
00:50:56,360 --> 00:50:58,560
Speaker 1: she wasn't alive with Max Dalter the other day promoting

916
00:50:58,640 --> 00:51:00,640
Speaker 1: the film and Nextalter, one of the stars of Star

917
00:51:00,680 --> 00:51:03,200
Speaker 1: Across the film. Yes, that's true, and she and Meg

918
00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:05,560
Speaker 1: were having we're doing bits galore, and I think I

919
00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:08,520
Speaker 1: think it's Casey could really roll with with with the comedian,

920
00:51:08,520 --> 00:51:10,800
Speaker 1: I would agree, and I think that my my review

921
00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:13,960
Speaker 1: of Casey Musgrave Starcross is it's so difficult to be

922
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:16,920
Speaker 1: cinematic yet intimate, and it was pulled off and you

923
00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:18,120
Speaker 1: and you said that to me earlier at dinner, and

924
00:51:18,120 --> 00:51:19,759
Speaker 1: I was like, he's so right, and this is my

925
00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:23,280
Speaker 1: girl with with the incisive commentary. You and I love

926
00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:25,480
Speaker 1: Casey from the from the jump, from the jump, we

927
00:51:25,600 --> 00:51:28,120
Speaker 1: even we You actually are the reason why so similar

928
00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:30,319
Speaker 1: to what you said about Miriam Cosby. Well, actually the

929
00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:33,400
Speaker 1: reason why Casey Chris is popular with gay men because

930
00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:35,439
Speaker 1: we wrote for Vultu for Vulture and we said gay

931
00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:39,200
Speaker 1: people pay attention. Boyang and Matt Rogers. We're actually the

932
00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:43,640
Speaker 1: two most influential Vulture writers. I'm reading this off the internet.

933
00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:49,359
Speaker 1: Unter Harris, eat your heart. She can eat her ass out. God, Um,

934
00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:52,520
Speaker 1: what do you think of Christen Stewart becoming the front

935
00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:55,720
Speaker 1: runner for Best Actress for playing the nineteenth person um

936
00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:58,960
Speaker 1: that's done Princess Diana this year? I will say, and

937
00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:01,080
Speaker 1: I said this online and a lot of people tagged

938
00:52:01,120 --> 00:52:04,239
Speaker 1: you in it. Um, I am not holding space for

939
00:52:04,280 --> 00:52:07,400
Speaker 1: bandwagon Kristen Stewart fans. I have been there from the beginning.

940
00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:11,160
Speaker 1: Was there very personal shopper. It was there during Clouds

941
00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:16,239
Speaker 1: sils Maria in the good performances. I was there during Twilight,

942
00:52:16,520 --> 00:52:22,719
Speaker 1: I was there during Panic Room. Okay, becoming the best

943
00:52:22,719 --> 00:52:26,560
Speaker 1: actress front runner. For anyone who for anyone who thinks

944
00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:30,799
Speaker 1: there they might be right in doubting her, all I

945
00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:35,440
Speaker 1: have to say is, grammatically, this doesn't mean they don't don't.

946
00:52:38,200 --> 00:52:39,799
Speaker 1: I will say this. When I saw that trailer and

947
00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:43,760
Speaker 1: she said, I really got the chills, and I Pablo, Lorraine,

948
00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:46,680
Speaker 1: you are a Jackie Fanily, you are a Jackie fan

949
00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:50,480
Speaker 1: Jackie was. And you know what they said that people

950
00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:53,759
Speaker 1: that have seen um Spencer said that it is a

951
00:52:53,840 --> 00:52:57,920
Speaker 1: spiritual sister film to Jackie. And they said that, you know,

952
00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:04,879
Speaker 1: would make a good trio Girardi. But wouldn't you think

953
00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:09,480
Speaker 1: it would be interesting to Lorraine are one of our

954
00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:14,000
Speaker 1: modern princesses. Stu Cameron's oscar and everyone's asking, what's Stuve

955
00:53:14,080 --> 00:53:19,080
Speaker 1: Cameron's oscar? Who's everyone's asking? Every name on everyone's lips

956
00:53:19,160 --> 00:53:27,200
Speaker 1: is Dove Cameron wonderful topic? Everyone watched the Dove Cameron interviews.

957
00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:32,000
Speaker 1: She she's a real fucking girl. Okay, Mary fuck kill

958
00:53:33,040 --> 00:53:38,760
Speaker 1: Mary Fu killed, Charlie xc X Good Ones, Chloe Mercy, Muna,

959
00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:43,279
Speaker 1: and Phoebe Bridges Silk Chiffon. This is really hard. And

960
00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:46,280
Speaker 1: these are the three bops that have come out during production.

961
00:53:46,920 --> 00:53:52,799
Speaker 1: They've been I'm gonna marry Silk Chiffon, I'm gonna oh,

962
00:53:53,120 --> 00:53:56,960
Speaker 1: I'm gonna fuck Mercy, and I'm gonna kill Charlie xc

963
00:53:57,120 --> 00:53:59,320
Speaker 1: X Good Ones because of the funeral imagery. And I

964
00:53:59,320 --> 00:54:01,239
Speaker 1: think that's what charl would want, because of what you

965
00:54:01,320 --> 00:54:02,920
Speaker 1: did in the in the music video, and that's the

966
00:54:02,920 --> 00:54:05,440
Speaker 1: way I'm gonna salvage the answer. Okay, okay, okay, So

967
00:54:05,560 --> 00:54:07,640
Speaker 1: I actually have the same response, but I will say

968
00:54:07,680 --> 00:54:10,920
Speaker 1: I have a slightly different reason for killing Charlie xc X,

969
00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:14,359
Speaker 1: and it's because it's too damn short. It's too damn

970
00:54:15,719 --> 00:54:18,200
Speaker 1: songs are too damn short. She's making a chart play,

971
00:54:18,239 --> 00:54:20,520
Speaker 1: it's too short. She wants the streaming numbers to go up,

972
00:54:20,520 --> 00:54:23,839
Speaker 1: and she wants to respect yourself. I think we're all

973
00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:27,000
Speaker 1: gonna have Mercy, just like Chloe was sucking us in

974
00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:31,040
Speaker 1: that music video. We're all marrying Silk Chiffon. Yes, I

975
00:54:31,320 --> 00:54:34,759
Speaker 1: might love those girls. I might fuck good ones, just

976
00:54:34,760 --> 00:54:38,120
Speaker 1: because it gives me like, so have Mercy. We were

977
00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:43,560
Speaker 1: we were talking to him, you Queen's heads um in

978
00:54:43,560 --> 00:54:47,680
Speaker 1: in aber Morrow. They both are like, we like it.

979
00:54:47,680 --> 00:54:50,919
Speaker 1: It's a little it's just really intense in the way

980
00:54:50,920 --> 00:54:55,680
Speaker 1: that it is really sexualizing Chloe, and and it is

981
00:54:55,719 --> 00:54:59,439
Speaker 1: like it feels somewhat calculated in whatever way. I don't

982
00:54:59,520 --> 00:55:02,520
Speaker 1: fully with that. I don't fully disagree with that. I

983
00:55:02,640 --> 00:55:07,239
Speaker 1: just think I watch the Have Mercy video and I go, wow,

984
00:55:07,320 --> 00:55:09,759
Speaker 1: I feel bad about myself right, and I don't and

985
00:55:10,080 --> 00:55:12,440
Speaker 1: I can't have sex with someone who I'm intimidated by

986
00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:15,799
Speaker 1: what I see. I felt like they have Mercy video.

987
00:55:15,800 --> 00:55:19,080
Speaker 1: I was like, this is such a beyondite production that

988
00:55:19,160 --> 00:55:22,799
Speaker 1: I almost feel like like but but I wonder like

989
00:55:23,080 --> 00:55:26,600
Speaker 1: she's such a machine. I'm like, I'm only excited to

990
00:55:26,640 --> 00:55:29,080
Speaker 1: see what's next. And I'm not surprised she couln't do this.

991
00:55:29,120 --> 00:55:30,480
Speaker 1: I guess this didn't. This is a great thing for

992
00:55:30,520 --> 00:55:32,760
Speaker 1: her to come at the gate with. Right, This wasn't

993
00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:35,239
Speaker 1: like a thing of like, wow, this artist just gave

994
00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:37,080
Speaker 1: it to me in a way I never knew they could.

995
00:55:37,239 --> 00:55:39,200
Speaker 1: So we all knew this was this was coming. But

996
00:55:39,239 --> 00:55:42,080
Speaker 1: I'm thrilled to see it. Yes, yes, but I'm gonna

997
00:55:42,160 --> 00:55:44,520
Speaker 1: fun good ones. And I'm sorry I kill have Mercy

998
00:55:44,560 --> 00:55:49,000
Speaker 1: because I'm scared you want to kill what you're afraid of.

999
00:55:49,080 --> 00:55:52,359
Speaker 1: But I love that Dante Holly is in it. We're

1000
00:55:52,360 --> 00:56:00,360
Speaker 1: all marrying sick Shiven. We love the ladies. This is

1001
00:56:00,400 --> 00:56:02,879
Speaker 1: the last cultural topic. Not all ladies what we should say,

1002
00:56:03,360 --> 00:56:08,680
Speaker 1: But we love Doug do your thing. We love them.

1003
00:56:08,760 --> 00:56:11,640
Speaker 1: We love them. Now, the last cultural topic I want

1004
00:56:11,640 --> 00:56:13,279
Speaker 1: to discuss is what do you think of all of

1005
00:56:13,320 --> 00:56:17,200
Speaker 1: a sudden, every every young girl putting out a cover

1006
00:56:17,320 --> 00:56:21,480
Speaker 1: of Defying Gravity because they know they're auditioning for um alphaba?

1007
00:56:21,600 --> 00:56:24,960
Speaker 1: And who is your alphaba? Talk to me about that?

1008
00:56:25,800 --> 00:56:28,080
Speaker 1: Your first who do you want to see as alphabet?

1009
00:56:28,080 --> 00:56:32,600
Speaker 1: And Glinda. I'm not the one to answer this, I

1010
00:56:32,680 --> 00:56:35,480
Speaker 1: really am not, but I feel not qualified. I think

1011
00:56:35,880 --> 00:56:38,480
Speaker 1: whenever I go to Ariana Grande's Instagram and I see

1012
00:56:38,520 --> 00:56:41,000
Speaker 1: that she follows John him to director of the of

1013
00:56:41,000 --> 00:56:45,080
Speaker 1: the Wicked adaptation, I think, this miss this has to happen.

1014
00:56:45,480 --> 00:56:46,960
Speaker 1: She has to be and it it almost feels like we

1015
00:56:47,040 --> 00:56:49,239
Speaker 1: all have blue balls if she wasn't in it a

1016
00:56:49,280 --> 00:56:51,560
Speaker 1: little bit right like she like she would be the

1017
00:56:51,680 --> 00:56:55,680
Speaker 1: draw for everybody. Think about the generational like reach that

1018
00:56:55,760 --> 00:56:58,000
Speaker 1: like she would have if she were to be cast

1019
00:56:58,680 --> 00:57:01,000
Speaker 1: either as Alphabra. I think she'd be good as either. Honestly,

1020
00:57:01,280 --> 00:57:05,600
Speaker 1: I think should be good as I've chuckling because I'm

1021
00:57:05,600 --> 00:57:08,520
Speaker 1: remembering last week when I made you sing the Wizard

1022
00:57:08,520 --> 00:57:13,279
Speaker 1: and I as a sim because that is what um

1023
00:57:13,360 --> 00:57:16,040
Speaker 1: a friend. And I believe Ariana sounds like when she

1024
00:57:16,080 --> 00:57:19,360
Speaker 1: sings the Wizard or not and Matt has doesn't know

1025
00:57:19,560 --> 00:57:23,480
Speaker 1: what simlesh is. And if the readers, I know, I

1026
00:57:23,520 --> 00:57:25,360
Speaker 1: didn't stop you, but it is. It is one of

1027
00:57:25,400 --> 00:57:29,360
Speaker 1: the funniest recordings. And I wish I could play I'll

1028
00:57:29,360 --> 00:57:31,520
Speaker 1: play it for I'll play it for you tomorrow now,

1029
00:57:32,360 --> 00:57:33,920
Speaker 1: Okay that I don't know. I don't I don't know

1030
00:57:33,920 --> 00:57:35,440
Speaker 1: how to answer this. I'm so sorry, I'm not. I

1031
00:57:35,680 --> 00:57:37,880
Speaker 1: also think Ariana ground I should be in the film

1032
00:57:37,920 --> 00:57:40,160
Speaker 1: because I just think why the hell not why the helmet?

1033
00:57:40,280 --> 00:57:43,760
Speaker 1: And I would also say that I since the beginning,

1034
00:57:43,800 --> 00:57:48,920
Speaker 1: have been by the way Emmy winner Kecky Palmer, I

1035
00:57:48,920 --> 00:57:51,919
Speaker 1: think keke Palmer would be a good as Glinda should

1036
00:57:51,960 --> 00:57:53,960
Speaker 1: be amazing. I think she because Glenda and I think

1037
00:57:53,960 --> 00:57:55,560
Speaker 1: she also has an alphable voice. I think we should

1038
00:57:55,600 --> 00:57:58,560
Speaker 1: be thinking of Kei Hammer more for every part part,

1039
00:57:58,640 --> 00:58:00,480
Speaker 1: but I'm just saying for this as well. I also

1040
00:58:00,520 --> 00:58:03,200
Speaker 1: think Madam Marrible should be Catherine Jada Jones. That's the

1041
00:58:03,200 --> 00:58:06,440
Speaker 1: only thing I'm positive and interesting. Nada would be amazing

1042
00:58:06,520 --> 00:58:12,680
Speaker 1: like Cuckoo, like Madam Marrible. I'm thinking like Christine Baranski interesting.

1043
00:58:13,360 --> 00:58:15,200
Speaker 1: But and maybe that's two similar to her in Chicago.

1044
00:58:15,920 --> 00:58:19,000
Speaker 1: She's like, oh, you know, like she is very like that.

1045
00:58:19,160 --> 00:58:21,560
Speaker 1: Um but I speaking of Dev Cameron, Dev Cameron being

1046
00:58:21,520 --> 00:58:29,280
Speaker 1: amazing Glinda mm hmm. Yeah, I'm not seeing in these choices.

1047
00:58:29,720 --> 00:58:33,600
Speaker 1: I would like to see Park. Actually, Park, I would

1048
00:58:33,640 --> 00:58:39,080
Speaker 1: like to see um My by Pack Queen Jesse j

1049
00:58:40,560 --> 00:58:44,400
Speaker 1: iconic by POC when she put out that. When she

1050
00:58:44,520 --> 00:58:47,280
Speaker 1: put out that Defined Gravity cover, I said, it's finally

1051
00:58:47,280 --> 00:58:52,880
Speaker 1: great to see an iconic by boxing this song. No

1052
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Speaker 1: you are so I love when I get to see

1053
00:58:59,000 --> 00:59:04,280
Speaker 1: by pop win someone someone someone at a party here

1054
00:59:04,280 --> 00:59:07,200
Speaker 1: on the island. When that the day that video came

1055
00:59:07,200 --> 00:59:09,640
Speaker 1: out of Jesse Jason and Defying Gravity came out, I

1056
00:59:09,680 --> 00:59:11,200
Speaker 1: mean Joel and I had checked him with the Trible.

1057
00:59:11,320 --> 00:59:13,640
Speaker 1: We were both like we both had our opinions about it.

1058
00:59:13,840 --> 00:59:16,840
Speaker 1: This person comes up to me, gorgeous guy. I couldn't

1059
00:59:16,880 --> 00:59:18,120
Speaker 1: tell if he was making a move on me, but

1060
00:59:18,200 --> 00:59:22,280
Speaker 1: he was like, um, but Jesse j A remix of

1061
00:59:22,680 --> 00:59:24,640
Speaker 1: Domino by Jesse j came out and then he reached

1062
00:59:24,640 --> 00:59:28,040
Speaker 1: over to me and said, um, have we seen the

1063
00:59:28,120 --> 00:59:30,640
Speaker 1: video of Jesse Jason and defying gravity? And I go,

1064
00:59:31,440 --> 00:59:33,880
Speaker 1: I have indeed, and he goes, what do we think?

1065
00:59:34,400 --> 00:59:36,160
Speaker 1: And right as I was about to open my mouth

1066
00:59:36,240 --> 00:59:38,880
Speaker 1: to be like, I don't know, he said I thought

1067
00:59:38,920 --> 00:59:41,560
Speaker 1: she was incredible, but it was like and that was

1068
00:59:41,560 --> 00:59:45,720
Speaker 1: a Jesse j R. In his bag, in his bag,

1069
00:59:45,760 --> 00:59:49,360
Speaker 1: and I was like, okay, let's just let's just let

1070
00:59:49,400 --> 00:59:52,760
Speaker 1: this go. This this man, I think it has to

1071
00:59:52,760 --> 00:59:54,640
Speaker 1: be said that the video was incredible in a lot

1072
00:59:54,640 --> 00:59:58,040
Speaker 1: of way. Oh, it's an incredible video. The camera anglees alone.

1073
00:59:58,200 --> 01:00:00,800
Speaker 1: She's saying it effortlessly. Oh my, but here's the thing

1074
01:00:00,800 --> 01:00:04,000
Speaker 1: with defined gravity, it's you need to active. I don't

1075
01:00:04,080 --> 01:00:07,320
Speaker 1: think it should sound effortless. It should sound like the

1076
01:00:07,320 --> 01:00:12,120
Speaker 1: biggest effort in her life thus far. I yes, I

1077
01:00:12,160 --> 01:00:15,600
Speaker 1: feel she should be metamorphosizing. It should feel like a

1078
01:00:15,680 --> 01:00:19,560
Speaker 1: Dina Manzel about to die, which is how it originally was.

1079
01:00:20,400 --> 01:00:24,160
Speaker 1: Dina Manzel killed herself out. This is why the British

1080
01:00:24,360 --> 01:00:27,800
Speaker 1: Von Massey moment is so iconic because she literally is

1081
01:00:27,840 --> 01:00:31,240
Speaker 1: like losing her mind a little bit, you know, like

1082
01:00:31,280 --> 01:00:34,400
Speaker 1: she's like, I'm this new, I'm changed, changed, And that's

1083
01:00:34,440 --> 01:00:37,040
Speaker 1: why it's nominated for Best Live Performance by a Woman

1084
01:00:37,080 --> 01:00:40,080
Speaker 1: at the last Coultures Culture Awards. Thank you, brand I

1085
01:00:40,080 --> 01:00:42,400
Speaker 1: wanted to touch on that, Joe Kim, would you you

1086
01:00:42,520 --> 01:00:44,400
Speaker 1: sort of become an honorary guest on the episode? Would

1087
01:00:44,400 --> 01:00:45,640
Speaker 1: you like to stay for I don't think so, honey.

1088
01:00:45,640 --> 01:00:47,560
Speaker 1: Do you have anything to get off your chest? Or

1089
01:00:47,600 --> 01:00:48,840
Speaker 1: do you want to wait while we do it and

1090
01:00:48,840 --> 01:00:59,880
Speaker 1: then maybe decide at the end? Okay, well I have that. Basically,

1091
01:01:00,080 --> 01:01:02,520
Speaker 1: what you need to know everyone at home is two things. One,

1092
01:01:02,800 --> 01:01:04,480
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey, is a one minute segment

1093
01:01:04,560 --> 01:01:06,720
Speaker 1: that we do on every episode of Lost Cultures, which

1094
01:01:06,720 --> 01:01:08,480
Speaker 1: is sort of a minute long period for us to

1095
01:01:08,560 --> 01:01:12,040
Speaker 1: just sort of bowen. What would you say if you

1096
01:01:12,080 --> 01:01:15,000
Speaker 1: could make a noise that simplifies I don't think, so honey?

1097
01:01:15,040 --> 01:01:21,040
Speaker 1: What is it that? Yeah? And so that's like that.

1098
01:01:21,160 --> 01:01:22,920
Speaker 1: And also you need to know another thing, which is

1099
01:01:22,960 --> 01:01:25,560
Speaker 1: that I decided on my topic, I don't think so honey,

1100
01:01:25,560 --> 01:01:29,640
Speaker 1: and then Jill Kim seconds later dragged a very similar topic.

1101
01:01:29,680 --> 01:01:31,080
Speaker 1: He was like, I don't think so what are you

1102
01:01:31,120 --> 01:01:33,120
Speaker 1: gonna do. I don't think so honey bees. I'm not

1103
01:01:33,160 --> 01:01:35,400
Speaker 1: gonna do that. I'm gonna do this. Something else is

1104
01:01:35,400 --> 01:01:37,280
Speaker 1: Matt Rogers. I don't think so many time starts now,

1105
01:01:37,400 --> 01:01:40,800
Speaker 1: I don't think so honey Insects that bite, yes, it

1106
01:01:40,840 --> 01:01:46,080
Speaker 1: includes bees, but this also encompasses the the very very

1107
01:01:46,160 --> 01:01:50,240
Speaker 1: rude and not offsided biting insect, which is the horse

1108
01:01:50,360 --> 01:01:55,680
Speaker 1: fly which was dragging the girls to hell. Today we

1109
01:01:55,680 --> 01:01:58,280
Speaker 1: were shooting a scene that takes place at Ta Spoiler,

1110
01:01:58,680 --> 01:02:00,400
Speaker 1: and we were down by the harbor, and let me

1111
01:02:00,440 --> 01:02:02,880
Speaker 1: tell you, the horse flies were out to night and

1112
01:02:02,920 --> 01:02:06,600
Speaker 1: they were out to bite, namely the cast of Fire Island,

1113
01:02:07,200 --> 01:02:11,080
Speaker 1: the ankles, at the ankles, the knees, the shins, sometimes

1114
01:02:11,120 --> 01:02:15,240
Speaker 1: in the neck. Really tough stuff. Also turning too, the bees.

1115
01:02:15,480 --> 01:02:17,720
Speaker 1: We don't need them. I don't think so honey bees

1116
01:02:17,760 --> 01:02:19,240
Speaker 1: that we need you, because a lot of people are

1117
01:02:19,240 --> 01:02:21,480
Speaker 1: out here saying, well, you know, we need bees. It's

1118
01:02:21,520 --> 01:02:23,400
Speaker 1: like you dig a little bit, you go on the

1119
01:02:23,440 --> 01:02:25,240
Speaker 1: internet for two seconds. Why do you need bees? You

1120
01:02:25,240 --> 01:02:27,520
Speaker 1: need him for corn? Guess what I don't like. I

1121
01:02:27,560 --> 01:02:29,800
Speaker 1: don't like corn. I don't need corn. I don't need

1122
01:02:29,800 --> 01:02:31,919
Speaker 1: anything that goes in looking them one way, it comes

1123
01:02:31,920 --> 01:02:35,480
Speaker 1: out the same, unless it's a dick. The dick should

1124
01:02:35,520 --> 01:02:37,800
Speaker 1: go in looking one way, come out looking the exact same.

1125
01:02:38,200 --> 01:02:41,160
Speaker 1: No poop, I don't make a minute. So we have

1126
01:02:41,240 --> 01:02:44,120
Speaker 1: something factially raw, which is that if bees were to

1127
01:02:44,200 --> 01:02:45,760
Speaker 1: die off, we would just need to eat be eating

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01:02:45,760 --> 01:02:50,880
Speaker 1: more corn because other flowering vegetables would not. No, no, no,

1129
01:02:50,920 --> 01:02:52,680
Speaker 1: you got the quarantine. Right, Oh, I'm sorry. Then I

1130
01:02:52,680 --> 01:02:54,960
Speaker 1: got the corn. You got the quarantine. I'm sorry. My

1131
01:02:55,040 --> 01:02:59,960
Speaker 1: sources tell me that of the crops that we eat

1132
01:03:00,240 --> 01:03:04,040
Speaker 1: would die out and it would be die but it

1133
01:03:04,080 --> 01:03:08,440
Speaker 1: would not be chemistry. It would not be that's we

1134
01:03:08,520 --> 01:03:11,920
Speaker 1: still got corn, Baby, we still got I said I could,

1135
01:03:12,120 --> 01:03:14,439
Speaker 1: I could live off of corn, and you two queen

1136
01:03:14,480 --> 01:03:17,440
Speaker 1: said no, I actually don't like corn, which is shocking.

1137
01:03:18,640 --> 01:03:20,880
Speaker 1: And there was a scene the other day where I

1138
01:03:20,920 --> 01:03:23,640
Speaker 1: was given a prop bag and my character had bought

1139
01:03:23,680 --> 01:03:25,919
Speaker 1: a lot of corn, and I handed it back. I said,

1140
01:03:26,120 --> 01:03:29,520
Speaker 1: my character wouldn't do this, and what you were really saying?

1141
01:03:29,760 --> 01:03:32,520
Speaker 1: Then the prop back. They gave the prop back back

1142
01:03:32,520 --> 01:03:35,320
Speaker 1: and they said you'd better take this, and they said

1143
01:03:35,360 --> 01:03:38,400
Speaker 1: you better take this. You're to take this prop. Well

1144
01:03:38,400 --> 01:03:41,320
Speaker 1: that was a brave one. Well I'm saying is they've

1145
01:03:41,400 --> 01:03:44,960
Speaker 1: been really a nuisance lately. I was I was potentially

1146
01:03:45,000 --> 01:03:48,560
Speaker 1: gonna do it. I don't think so, honey, butterflies, it's

1147
01:03:48,600 --> 01:03:50,680
Speaker 1: just good pr because they're at the end of the day,

1148
01:03:50,720 --> 01:03:54,880
Speaker 1: just as disgusting as of insects as others. Why do

1149
01:03:55,000 --> 01:03:57,400
Speaker 1: we give them a free pass because they're they're they

1150
01:03:57,440 --> 01:04:01,160
Speaker 1: have about our aesthetic, which is beautiful, but according to who, like,

1151
01:04:01,240 --> 01:04:05,160
Speaker 1: according to what aesthetic, according to what you know what,

1152
01:04:06,960 --> 01:04:09,000
Speaker 1: you would have done this. No, it's fine. I'm just saying,

1153
01:04:09,000 --> 01:04:12,120
Speaker 1: but you're being specific. You're saying bugs that bite, spotterflies

1154
01:04:12,160 --> 01:04:14,040
Speaker 1: don't bite. Bugs that bite. I mean, like it's just

1155
01:04:14,560 --> 01:04:17,560
Speaker 1: and here's the thing. It's like they say, like, oh,

1156
01:04:17,680 --> 01:04:19,880
Speaker 1: don't bother the bee, don't wave the bee, then it

1157
01:04:19,880 --> 01:04:24,880
Speaker 1: won't bite you. I wasn't doing anything. I wasn't doing anything.

1158
01:04:24,880 --> 01:04:26,360
Speaker 1: I was minding my own business. I was actually doing

1159
01:04:26,360 --> 01:04:31,040
Speaker 1: my job today, Thank you very much. Say that. I

1160
01:04:31,080 --> 01:04:35,200
Speaker 1: don't think Sonny, Well, lucky us because we have we

1161
01:04:35,280 --> 01:04:38,240
Speaker 1: have time tonight, and this is bowing things. I don't

1162
01:04:38,240 --> 01:04:39,680
Speaker 1: think so many a time starts now. I don't think

1163
01:04:39,720 --> 01:04:43,680
Speaker 1: so many high fives. Open palm hand contact is very

1164
01:04:43,720 --> 01:04:47,480
Speaker 1: aggressively heterosexual. To me. The only queer way to have

1165
01:04:47,520 --> 01:04:50,240
Speaker 1: hand contact with someone is to enter lock your fingers.

1166
01:04:50,440 --> 01:04:53,400
Speaker 1: Am I right? Or am I fucking right? No more

1167
01:04:53,480 --> 01:04:55,520
Speaker 1: high fives, Queer people. If you see each other, if

1168
01:04:55,560 --> 01:04:57,760
Speaker 1: you want to congratulate each other, trumph and somethings share

1169
01:04:57,760 --> 01:05:02,160
Speaker 1: a moment together, do something else, look, make eye contact,

1170
01:05:02,760 --> 01:05:05,720
Speaker 1: hold each other's faces in your hands, and say, wow,

1171
01:05:05,760 --> 01:05:08,560
Speaker 1: good job, I'm proud of you. Not high five. None

1172
01:05:08,560 --> 01:05:11,840
Speaker 1: of that. We've been fucking fourth grade. Remember the day

1173
01:05:11,840 --> 01:05:13,240
Speaker 1: that you discovered what a high five was and you

1174
01:05:13,240 --> 01:05:15,480
Speaker 1: thought you were the coolest fucking person in the world.

1175
01:05:15,640 --> 01:05:19,479
Speaker 1: Those days are long gone. You're an old person now.

1176
01:05:19,640 --> 01:05:21,919
Speaker 1: You're at least forty five years old. If you listen

1177
01:05:21,960 --> 01:05:25,000
Speaker 1: to this podcast, that's the median age of this team.

1178
01:05:25,160 --> 01:05:27,760
Speaker 1: Told just kidding, I just made that up, But high fives.

1179
01:05:28,160 --> 01:05:31,000
Speaker 1: Stop it. If you high five someone again, please live

1180
01:05:31,040 --> 01:05:33,919
Speaker 1: in some shame that you have adopted straight culture into

1181
01:05:33,920 --> 01:05:37,040
Speaker 1: your life. If you are straight, please start to clear

1182
01:05:37,120 --> 01:05:40,680
Speaker 1: your hand contact going forward and that's one minute. Two things,

1183
01:05:41,400 --> 01:05:45,880
Speaker 1: the mean age of listeners of this podcast. Do you

1184
01:05:46,000 --> 01:05:50,400
Speaker 1: is this real? I guess? And the second thing is

1185
01:05:50,440 --> 01:05:52,240
Speaker 1: this is a direct drag on me. Someone that high

1186
01:05:52,240 --> 01:05:54,640
Speaker 1: five Bowen today as a bit and I and I

1187
01:05:54,720 --> 01:05:56,320
Speaker 1: and that's what inspired by I don't think so, honey

1188
01:05:56,360 --> 01:05:57,520
Speaker 1: and I. But it was a bit and I knew

1189
01:05:57,520 --> 01:05:59,440
Speaker 1: it was it because you don't. We don't high five.

1190
01:05:59,520 --> 01:06:01,960
Speaker 1: We do not. And that's that's this is the thing

1191
01:06:02,120 --> 01:06:05,560
Speaker 1: is that queer people are queering have queered that already.

1192
01:06:05,720 --> 01:06:08,960
Speaker 1: The people who remain high fivers, I go, what what?

1193
01:06:08,960 --> 01:06:11,840
Speaker 1: What pain are you holding onto? Yeah? You're so right,

1194
01:06:12,040 --> 01:06:14,360
Speaker 1: thank you. And also in the year of Our Lord

1195
01:06:15,120 --> 01:06:17,480
Speaker 1: one where it's covid oh no, no, no, no, no,

1196
01:06:17,680 --> 01:06:19,600
Speaker 1: not high five keep to the elbow. I also, I

1197
01:06:19,640 --> 01:06:21,600
Speaker 1: will say I don't like the elbow thing either, because

1198
01:06:21,600 --> 01:06:23,000
Speaker 1: I feel like it's like a comment on the fact

1199
01:06:23,040 --> 01:06:25,320
Speaker 1: that we can't high five. And it does bring me

1200
01:06:25,400 --> 01:06:28,680
Speaker 1: back mentally, you know what I mean, Like if we're

1201
01:06:28,680 --> 01:06:31,640
Speaker 1: gonna bump elbows, I'm like, oh God, I didn't need this,

1202
01:06:31,680 --> 01:06:34,520
Speaker 1: And now I just remember that we can't shake hand exactly,

1203
01:06:35,280 --> 01:06:38,880
Speaker 1: but like you can, but you can you can't get vaccinated.

1204
01:06:38,880 --> 01:06:44,160
Speaker 1: I'm like Nikki. I'm like Nikki. Okay, restaurant, you would

1205
01:06:44,200 --> 01:06:47,360
Speaker 1: do a great one. I think if you, if you

1206
01:06:47,400 --> 01:06:52,440
Speaker 1: have something on your mind, you know you would be

1207
01:06:52,560 --> 01:06:59,600
Speaker 1: like we've we've been grasping. I listened to your podcast

1208
01:06:59,600 --> 01:07:02,200
Speaker 1: every week. This is Kibosters. I don't think would you

1209
01:07:02,240 --> 01:07:05,200
Speaker 1: like to start? Would you do another? Yeah, I'm ready,

1210
01:07:05,200 --> 01:07:07,560
Speaker 1: I'm ready. This is Joel kim Boosters. I don't think so, honey.

1211
01:07:07,600 --> 01:07:11,200
Speaker 1: As time starts now, I don't think so honey. Photo dumps, Okay,

1212
01:07:11,440 --> 01:07:14,520
Speaker 1: do not put me in a photo dump. Okay, I

1213
01:07:14,560 --> 01:07:17,280
Speaker 1: am apprised to be one. I am not going to

1214
01:07:17,320 --> 01:07:20,480
Speaker 1: appear in a photo dump next to a landscape shot

1215
01:07:20,520 --> 01:07:22,800
Speaker 1: that you thought was artistic but were too ashamed to

1216
01:07:22,800 --> 01:07:25,560
Speaker 1: put on your grid. Sir, I do will not be

1217
01:07:25,880 --> 01:07:29,880
Speaker 1: side by side with a meme A meme no, not

1218
01:07:30,120 --> 01:07:33,600
Speaker 1: me and a meme. No No, I will not. I

1219
01:07:33,640 --> 01:07:35,680
Speaker 1: will be on the grid. I will be front and

1220
01:07:35,760 --> 01:07:38,600
Speaker 1: center because I have put in the world. Honey, I

1221
01:07:38,640 --> 01:07:41,840
Speaker 1: don't think so honey, photo dumps. You sound gross. You

1222
01:07:41,960 --> 01:07:47,960
Speaker 1: sound fecal nature, fecle in nature. You sound like something

1223
01:07:48,000 --> 01:07:49,920
Speaker 1: that goes in the toilet. And that's what you are.

1224
01:07:50,000 --> 01:07:52,440
Speaker 1: Photo dumps. You are something that goes in the toilet.

1225
01:07:52,440 --> 01:07:55,320
Speaker 1: Because I have never scrolled through a photo dump and

1226
01:07:55,440 --> 01:07:58,560
Speaker 1: enjoyed myself. I have never gone on that journey and

1227
01:07:58,600 --> 01:08:00,720
Speaker 1: gotten to the end and said that was worth my time.

1228
01:08:01,120 --> 01:08:06,040
Speaker 1: Stop putting photo d on Instagram. Respect yourself, respect me,

1229
01:08:06,120 --> 01:08:09,040
Speaker 1: and respect everyone's time. That's one minute. This is a

1230
01:08:09,120 --> 01:08:12,000
Speaker 1: true master of the form. For me, it's the word dump.

1231
01:08:12,400 --> 01:08:16,280
Speaker 1: That's what I object to. And I believe you know

1232
01:08:16,320 --> 01:08:18,120
Speaker 1: it's been so it's not the concept. So even if

1233
01:08:18,120 --> 01:08:20,080
Speaker 1: someone were to post a photos no, but you're saying,

1234
01:08:20,120 --> 01:08:24,800
Speaker 1: like all of it is, I think the content is

1235
01:08:24,800 --> 01:08:27,800
Speaker 1: bad too. Yeah, you know it's intentionally it's you're it's

1236
01:08:27,800 --> 01:08:30,000
Speaker 1: supposed to be. It's like intentionally ironic. It's it's too

1237
01:08:30,040 --> 01:08:32,080
Speaker 1: much of a wink. I don't think at any given

1238
01:08:32,080 --> 01:08:35,439
Speaker 1: time there's ten photos that haven't been posted to Grid

1239
01:08:35,479 --> 01:08:38,280
Speaker 1: by themselves that are worthy of Grid. And if it's

1240
01:08:38,320 --> 01:08:40,759
Speaker 1: the sixth thing and a photo dump, it's still Grid.

1241
01:08:41,200 --> 01:08:44,960
Speaker 1: And that's humiliating. And I would hate to be seventh

1242
01:08:44,960 --> 01:08:47,280
Speaker 1: and Grid. And this is I'm saying this as someone

1243
01:08:47,320 --> 01:08:49,920
Speaker 1: who's done this before, but I just called him a

1244
01:08:49,920 --> 01:08:52,240
Speaker 1: bunch of photos. I would never call him my photos

1245
01:08:52,280 --> 01:08:54,559
Speaker 1: are a bunch of photos. Here's a slide show. I

1246
01:08:54,560 --> 01:08:56,680
Speaker 1: think I'm showing my age a little bit. I think

1247
01:08:56,720 --> 01:08:59,000
Speaker 1: I am. I think I think my adherence to the

1248
01:08:59,000 --> 01:09:03,519
Speaker 1: grid and so of the specialness of the grid is

1249
01:09:04,320 --> 01:09:07,760
Speaker 1: my thirty three all the time on this podcast, because

1250
01:09:07,800 --> 01:09:10,120
Speaker 1: can I say something, We are in our thirties. We're

1251
01:09:10,120 --> 01:09:13,920
Speaker 1: in our thirties. Like people were saying the other day,

1252
01:09:14,080 --> 01:09:17,080
Speaker 1: did you watch the v M A S. This is

1253
01:09:17,080 --> 01:09:21,000
Speaker 1: a culture podcast. One of the music second biggest night

1254
01:09:21,040 --> 01:09:22,920
Speaker 1: happened the other night. No, I didn't watch it. We

1255
01:09:22,960 --> 01:09:26,679
Speaker 1: didn't watch so sorry, no I didn't. I don't know

1256
01:09:26,720 --> 01:09:29,360
Speaker 1: who they are. I don't know who the girls are.

1257
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Speaker 1: Some of them, we know some of them, don't we.

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Speaker 1: There are a lot of people who are putting x's

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Speaker 1: where vowels should be in their names and now we

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Speaker 1: said and now we said it, and I don't like it. Okay, okay, okay,

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Speaker 1: all right, in their names, just in their names. Yes,

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Speaker 1: let's say this. This has been a real culture catch up.

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Speaker 1: It really went in directions I didn't expect. And that's

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Speaker 1: that's what makes for the best culture catch up. That's

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Speaker 1: what the beautiful podcast episodes that we had our friend

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Speaker 1: join us, our friend who really let's just we were

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Speaker 1: that and I were very earnest with each other up

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Speaker 1: top about about our experiences on this movie and just

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Speaker 1: complimenting each other. We have to I think it is

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Speaker 1: very It is very and we went intowards if we

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Speaker 1: did not say that Joel Kim Booster number one, number

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Speaker 1: one the call sheet wrote this movie, eping this movie,

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Speaker 1: making decisions, creative decision rerunning scenes with this uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: as as we're shooting and starring in the film, and

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Speaker 1: then every scene I I tell I told him that

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Speaker 1: I've talked to you about this so much throughout this process,

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Speaker 1: I go, he's really done something incredible to Kim, Joel

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Speaker 1: Kim bosh, He's written this movie that I don't think

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Speaker 1: anyone I know could have done. We're very excited, We're

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Speaker 1: very excited. We're so proud and grateful and we're so

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Speaker 1: thankful that he brought us onto this. And you know

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Speaker 1: what happened earlier today, which I think would actually be

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Speaker 1: a good cap on the pod is we started broke

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Speaker 1: out into a gorgeous harmony on a song will sing

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Speaker 1: right now, but before we say, I want to say

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Speaker 1: I saw I watched impeachment and I thought it was

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Speaker 1: pretty good. Okay, and then now it's a complete culture

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Speaker 1: catch up. Okay everyone, and a one and a two.

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Speaker 1: Goodbye you, Goodbye to everything that I do. You're the

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Speaker 1: one of one thing that I tried to hold on to,

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Speaker 1: the one Goodbye you, Goodbye to everything that I knew. Well,

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Speaker 1: You're the one I love, the one thing that I

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Speaker 1: tried to hold on to, the one thing that I'm

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Speaker 1: trying to hold Not for more of that from Essen,

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Speaker 1: a spirit Mosha branch now celebrating its twentieth annivers Wow,

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Speaker 1: we need her on the pottat her on the pot.

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Speaker 1: Bye