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Speaker 1: Welcome to Katie's Crib, a production of Shondaland Audio in

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Speaker 1: partnership with iHeartRadio. Do you have the necklace on? There's

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Speaker 1: like a custom bubble necklace that has Emma on it.

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Speaker 1: Can I see it?

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Speaker 2: Oh, Jenna, I never thought i'd be that woman. I

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Speaker 2: am that mom.

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Speaker 1: Such a beautiful name.

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: It's also what does it mean when it's backwards and forwards?

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Speaker 1: It's the same?

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Speaker 2: Oh, palindrome?

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Speaker 1: Palindrome? Oh god, you get how many actors does it

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Speaker 1: take to get together and figure that out?

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Speaker 2: I know, but it's not a palindrome. It's Emma, Emma,

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Speaker 2: It's not Oh m.

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Speaker 1: Hello, everybody, Welcome back to Katie's Crib. Today, I get

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Speaker 1: to sit down with a friend who I have not

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Speaker 1: seen in forever and who I adore, and I want

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Speaker 1: to talk all about her motherhood journey with.

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Speaker 2: We go way back.

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Speaker 1: We even played the same role in Waitress, the Broadway musical.

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Speaker 1: We both played down. She played don way ahead of me,

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Speaker 1: and she's far more talented than I am, especially when

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Speaker 1: it comes to musicals. I adore her. Look up to her.

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Speaker 1: She inspires me. She's a wonderful human being. And I

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Speaker 1: am talking about the one and only Jenna Ushkowitz. She

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Speaker 1: is actress and singer known for her role as Tina

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Speaker 1: Cohen Chang on the Fox musical comedy drama series Glee.

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Speaker 1: I was a huge Glee fan. She received a Grammy

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Speaker 1: Award nomination for that. She is also known for her

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Speaker 1: performances in two Broadway musicals See I Already Told You See.

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Speaker 1: If I only been in one, she's been in two.

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Speaker 1: She was in The King and I and Waitress. She

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Speaker 1: is a two time Tony Award winner for her work

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Speaker 1: as producer of the Broadway musical Once on This Island

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Speaker 1: and the Broadway play The Inheritance. And In twenty nineteen,

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Speaker 1: Jenna and her former Glee costar Kevin McHale launched a

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Speaker 1: Glee rewatch podcast called Show oh Man's that Adam Shapiro

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Speaker 1: and I had the benefit of being guests on. The

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Speaker 1: show went on hiatus in July twenty twenty following the

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Speaker 1: passing of co Star and Nya Rivera, but in September

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty two, Kevin and Jenna announced their new rewatch podcast,

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Speaker 1: Endeavor and That's what You Really Missed on iHeartRadio. Jenna

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Speaker 1: married her longtime love David Stanley, who I adore on

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Speaker 1: July twenty fourth of twenty twenty one, and together they

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Speaker 1: have their daughter, Emma. Jenna, Welcome to Katie's crib. You're

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Speaker 1: so impressive. Oh stop, no, like truly, I can't believe

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Speaker 1: how many things you're doing. And I really want to

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Speaker 1: hear what has stuck and what has fallen apart?

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes, all of it, but let it be known.

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Speaker 1: I Oh god, this why Instagram is so fucking fucked up,

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Speaker 1: because I feel like I've seen you a lot. But

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Speaker 1: that's sad because I actually haven't. Right in real life.

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Speaker 2: Right, you feel like you know what's going on, but

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Speaker 2: I haven't seen you two three years, three years.

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Speaker 1: So Jenna Aushwitz is an incredible, incredible talent, far more

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Speaker 1: talented than I've ever been. And I am so lucky

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Speaker 1: to say to Jenna anytime I have my theater company

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Speaker 1: and I'm like, please, will you come sing for something?

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Speaker 1: And three years ago she agreed to come sing. We

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Speaker 1: of the world to sing, which is when he sees

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Speaker 1: Me the Dawn solo, which Jenna played years before I played,

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Speaker 1: and you were the person I called actually when I

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Speaker 1: got waitress, and I was like, is it really hard?

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Speaker 2: And you were like, yeah, yeah, I was not about

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Speaker 2: to sugarcoat this morning. No.

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Speaker 1: You were like, it's the most prop work and pouring

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Speaker 1: and waitressing and coffees and pies and ordering that you'll

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Speaker 1: ever do in your life. But wait, at this I

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Speaker 1: am event. I asked you to come sing. We both

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Speaker 1: sang a duet of when He Sees Me. That was

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Speaker 1: March eleventh of twenty twenty, and shutdown was March thirteenth

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Speaker 1: of twenty twenty, and I met your incredible boyfriend. At

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Speaker 1: the time, Stanley, you were not yet engaged, you were

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Speaker 1: not yet married, you were not yet pregnant, and now

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Speaker 1: just get this all happening. Is this your memory of this?

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Speaker 2: I don't remember that part. That may have been you

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Speaker 2: I thought the pandemic was gonna mess it all up.

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Speaker 2: Of course, you know, you're like, my plans are all

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Speaker 1: When did you get engaged?

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Speaker 2: July thirty first of twenty twenty. We got engaged because

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Speaker 2: we got married on July twenty fourth of twenty twenty one.

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Speaker 1: Wow, did you have to do any like last minute

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Speaker 2: Honestly, we had to plan for it because we were

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Speaker 2: just like, we don't know, we're gonna plan We're going

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Speaker 2: But then luckily, as the vaccine started rolling out was

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Speaker 2: And then by July, it was the week we got married,

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Speaker 1: And since then, how old is your daughter at this.

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Speaker 2: Point she's nine months old. Oh my god, I know,

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Speaker 2: I know, I know. It happened so fast.

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Speaker 1: As soon as you got pregnant. Yeah, at what point

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Speaker 2: The day I got pregnant. No, I got pregnant very quickly,

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Speaker 1: Oh honey, I saw you were bouncing on that fucking

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Speaker 1: Most doctors say, whatever you did before pregnancy, you can

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Speaker 1: Yeah, then what did you do? What did you find

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Speaker 2: I think is insane to beget trying to get back

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Speaker 2: to my wedding weight. Are you joking? Unattainable?

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Speaker 2: My husband was able to take six weeks off. David

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Speaker 2: Stanley took six weeks off. It was awesome. He understood

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Speaker 2: he did. It felt like all my limbs had been

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Speaker 2: No? We had a postpartum, amazing postpartum doulah that came,

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Speaker 2: but it was crazy. Breastfeeding was the hardest thing about

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Speaker 2: like how big mite it would get, how like enlarged,

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Speaker 2: Like the kind of clothes I would have to wear

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Speaker 2: I miss all of this. Honestly, it was pretty chill.

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Speaker 1: No, but I do think breastfeeding is really like until

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Speaker 1: like now that you've done it for nine months, some

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Speaker 2: Now he's mad.

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Speaker 1: What are you going to do about that? Whatever, You'll

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Speaker 2: No exactly, you put bankings one on, you figure it out.

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Speaker 1: What's the one thing off your registry you couldn't live without?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 2: The duna.

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Speaker 1: The duna didn't exist when I had Albie. Oh why duna?

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Speaker 2: It's really heavenly because she never liked being strapped in,

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Speaker 1: Yeh, Wait, do you have the necklace on? There's like

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Speaker 2: Yeah? People call me em all the time, like, how's

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Speaker 1: Did you do you love wearing that to publicly display

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Speaker 4: You're so proud of her and proud of her, even

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Speaker 2: Yes, it's funny though you just like I'm like, I'm

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Speaker 2: Know, yeah yeah, ambulance or whatever.

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Speaker 1: Alby said, fucking set a truck for like a year.

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Speaker 2: But for me it was that her name means universal

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Speaker 1: But it's so good, it's so great. It's just a

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: It's also what does it mean when it's backwards and forwards?

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Speaker 1: It's the same.

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Speaker 2: Oh? Any a gram edniogram. No, no, no, no, that's

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Speaker 2: a test.

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Speaker 1: For your personality.

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Speaker 2: This this is going to show how stupid I actually

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Speaker 1: Palindrome? Oh god, you get how many actors does it

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Speaker 1: take to get together and figure that out?

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Speaker 3: Not you, guys.

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Speaker 1: I am so working on brain fumes.

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Speaker 2: I am.

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Speaker 1: This is honestly one of.

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Speaker 4: Like why am I thinking that? I have no idea.

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Speaker 4: I was in Mexico City all weekend with my fucking

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Speaker 1: There's no excuse for stupid. I don't even need to

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Speaker 2: I'm just stupid. No, no, no.

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Speaker 4: I'm also hosting the scandal Rewatch podcast and we're talking

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Speaker 3: What am I?

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Speaker 2: Like?

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Speaker 1: You know, what, give me a job. I'm not capable

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Speaker 2: I would do that too.

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Speaker 1: It's okay, someone just shut down the mic and get

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Speaker 1: me out of here so that I can save myself.

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Speaker 1: So everyone, Emma is not a palindrome. Okay, so I

439
00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:35,440
Speaker 1: know that you take Emma's photos in the one month,

440
00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:37,960
Speaker 1: two month, three month blah blah blah. You also have

441
00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:40,280
Speaker 1: started the kind of tradition of sharing photos of Emma

442
00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:44,920
Speaker 1: wearing really cute bottom turkey design for Thanksgiving, Valentine's Day

443
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Speaker 1: a dradal Is this like another thing?

444
00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:50,800
Speaker 2: It's an accident. It was an accident. It's actually an

445
00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:54,200
Speaker 2: accident because I buy them because I think they're cute, right,

446
00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:57,360
Speaker 2: I like that to have a little holiday, like first holiday,

447
00:21:57,480 --> 00:22:00,280
Speaker 2: and the shirts usually say like my first balentines Day,

448
00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:04,240
Speaker 2: my first Thanksgiving. Carter's has them, like they're easy to

449
00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:07,280
Speaker 2: buy and whatever. Because I've chosen not to show her

450
00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:11,119
Speaker 2: face on social media, this was a way for me

451
00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:16,439
Speaker 2: to celebrate the holidays without like a family photo. People

452
00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:18,359
Speaker 2: know what the holiday is. And then I took a

453
00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:20,200
Speaker 2: photover a butt and because you can't see it, and

454
00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:22,040
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, this is perfect. And so then

455
00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:24,280
Speaker 2: I had them and I was like, oh, I guess

456
00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:26,720
Speaker 2: I'll just post this for the holiday. Oh I guess

457
00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:29,119
Speaker 2: I'll just post this for the holiday, and it just happened,

458
00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:31,399
Speaker 2: and now I'm stuck, and now I have to do

459
00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:33,000
Speaker 2: it now, now you already.

460
00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:35,199
Speaker 1: Taking pictures of her butt in different things for the

461
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Speaker 1: end of time. So you're you had a great pregnancy,

462
00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:39,920
Speaker 1: you enjoyed being pregnant.

463
00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:42,840
Speaker 2: I did. I really didn't think I was going to

464
00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:44,760
Speaker 2: have a good pregnancy for some reason. I just thought,

465
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Speaker 2: like because of how active I am and like how

466
00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:50,440
Speaker 2: I like control of my body. Like, but my pregnancy

467
00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:54,240
Speaker 2: was really great. She was really small, and so I

468
00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:57,960
Speaker 2: stayed pretty small the whole time, which was kind of frustrating.

469
00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:01,000
Speaker 2: When people are like, you don't even look pregnant, You're like, well, bitch,

470
00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:03,720
Speaker 2: I am like yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you're like I

471
00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:07,000
Speaker 2: still feel like shit, it might not look it, yes, exactly,

472
00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:13,000
Speaker 2: but she at week thirty two. I think it's when

473
00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:15,639
Speaker 2: they're like, okay, you're thirty two weeks on agro. I'm like,

474
00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:19,119
Speaker 2: you know, ultrasound, she'll flip, She'll flip. Don't worry, she'll flip.

475
00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:22,600
Speaker 2: Everybody's like, my baby didn't flip till thirty eight weeks.

476
00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:26,000
Speaker 2: Like she'll flip, don't worry, sh'll flip thirty five weeks

477
00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:28,760
Speaker 2: thirty six weeks, thirty seven, thirty six weeks was my

478
00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:30,800
Speaker 2: doctor's like, okay, so we're gonna schedule a see section

479
00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:33,560
Speaker 2: just in case she's probably gonna flip. But if she doesn't,

480
00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:36,400
Speaker 2: it's okay. You might want to try spinning babies. Get

481
00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:38,560
Speaker 2: upside down on the couch. You know, half your body

482
00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:40,399
Speaker 2: you go down. I'm like, great, I'll do that. I

483
00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:43,200
Speaker 2: got in a pool. It was summer. I did handstands.

484
00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:47,520
Speaker 2: I went in for massages, and by week thirty six,

485
00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:50,320
Speaker 2: thirty six and a half, I said, you know what,

486
00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:53,480
Speaker 2: this girl's not turning. I'm gonna stop going to massages.

487
00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:57,760
Speaker 2: I'm gonna stop trying to move her. They had scheduled

488
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Speaker 2: me and ECV. That was basically where they is it EVC,

489
00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:07,320
Speaker 2: EVC or ECV. I think it's ECV where they exactly

490
00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:11,440
Speaker 2: that's right. It's a pound drum. Don't worry. ECVE where

491
00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:14,439
Speaker 2: they manually turned this baby. And I was like, I

492
00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:15,520
Speaker 2: don't think I'm gonna do that.

493
00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:19,800
Speaker 1: Oh God, that sounds horrible. I've never even heard of that.

494
00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:23,920
Speaker 2: It's only fifty percent successful. It sounds sometimes that hurts

495
00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:26,199
Speaker 2: like a bitch. Sometimes it doesn't. I was like, you

496
00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:30,600
Speaker 2: know it's done good. So I said, look, she's stubborn,

497
00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:33,600
Speaker 2: she's not moving. This is how she's coming. I'm going

498
00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:37,240
Speaker 2: to enjoy this last week. I'm like, if she turns, great,

499
00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:41,160
Speaker 2: but I'm not pushing it anymore. So at thirty seven weeks,

500
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Speaker 2: five days, we walked into Cedars. We checked in at twelve.

501
00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:48,760
Speaker 2: I had gotten a blowout, I got my nails done.

502
00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:51,520
Speaker 2: By twelve forty seven, that baby was born.

503
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Speaker 1: Wow, Genma, was it? Were you afraid? Had you ever

504
00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:59,440
Speaker 1: had surgery before? Were you afraid? You felt?

505
00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:01,560
Speaker 2: I wasn't a freighted to like gone on the table

506
00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:04,600
Speaker 2: like I was fine. I had talked to my friend

507
00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:06,679
Speaker 2: who took me through every step of what the C

508
00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:09,600
Speaker 2: section one was gonna be. Like, it helped immensely.

509
00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:11,480
Speaker 1: You and I are the same. It's like, give me

510
00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:14,040
Speaker 1: more information, give me all the information totally, and I

511
00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:15,320
Speaker 1: know it. I feel the same way.

512
00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:16,880
Speaker 2: And then I'm sitting down on the table and they're

513
00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:19,400
Speaker 2: gonna put the spinal in you know where they numb

514
00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:21,439
Speaker 2: your whole body, and they're like, okay, we're gonna let

515
00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:24,760
Speaker 2: you down before you lose feeling in your body. And

516
00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:27,119
Speaker 2: then they're like, okay, so feel the shoulder. You can

517
00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:29,199
Speaker 2: feel that, right, you're not numb, there can Now we're

518
00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:30,879
Speaker 2: gonna feel your stomach. Does that feel the same, And

519
00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:33,399
Speaker 2: I'm like I don't know. They're like you don't know,

520
00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:35,159
Speaker 2: and I was like I kind of feel it, and

521
00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:37,280
Speaker 2: they're like, okay, we're gonna do it again. And they

522
00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:39,119
Speaker 2: did it again and like this is cold? Does that

523
00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:42,120
Speaker 2: feel cold? I'm like kind of and they're like okay.

524
00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:44,880
Speaker 2: And I think that was my brain going like, don't

525
00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:46,720
Speaker 2: let them do it unless you're sure, you know.

526
00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:49,960
Speaker 1: Yes, sure, sure, sure, sure, Like I don't want to

527
00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:51,600
Speaker 1: feel anything exactly.

528
00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:54,280
Speaker 2: You're depending on my feeling to tell me if you're

529
00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:57,200
Speaker 2: ready to like cut into my body. So then they're like, okay,

530
00:25:57,200 --> 00:25:58,720
Speaker 2: we're gonna use it with like a pin or like

531
00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:01,639
Speaker 2: a poker, and they poked me and then I was like,

532
00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:03,119
Speaker 2: oh yeah, I don't feel that, and I'm like.

533
00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:05,240
Speaker 1: Okay, great, oh good goods.

534
00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:09,399
Speaker 2: It was weird as hell, but honestly, like at that point,

535
00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:12,359
Speaker 2: she's coming and that's all that you have in your mind.

536
00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:15,080
Speaker 2: Within twenty minutes, she was out and I was sow

537
00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:18,840
Speaker 2: enough and we were we were hanging Oh.

538
00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:22,119
Speaker 1: My god, how was the recovery? Was it brutal, No,

539
00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:23,959
Speaker 1: it wasn't.

540
00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:28,399
Speaker 2: But I also didn't really move that much. We slept

541
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Speaker 2: in our guest room downstairs. We didn't do go upstairs.

542
00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:33,840
Speaker 2: Like I really listened and I got ahead of the

543
00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:35,760
Speaker 2: pay and I took them as like I was supposed

544
00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:39,399
Speaker 2: to do. I really rested and like I'd like to

545
00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:41,720
Speaker 2: you know, I wish I had a better story to be,

546
00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:43,600
Speaker 2: Like God, it was so hard.

547
00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:46,119
Speaker 1: And like all this, No, no, I love this. I

548
00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:48,200
Speaker 1: talk about this all the time, where like I run

549
00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:51,840
Speaker 1: up to pregnant men and I'm like, it's gonna be good.

550
00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:53,360
Speaker 2: Do you run up to pregnant people.

551
00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:59,160
Speaker 1: All the time? On Instagram, you posted about your first

552
00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:02,080
Speaker 1: day away from Emma and getting back to work because

553
00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:04,879
Speaker 1: I know you. I think you were doing like a

554
00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:08,960
Speaker 1: photo shoot our podcast for your new rewatch podcast called

555
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:11,320
Speaker 1: and that's what you really miss Thanks for the pug.

556
00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:17,400
Speaker 1: Oh my god, everybody listen. Every everybody do everything jennash

557
00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:20,600
Speaker 1: describe like going back to work.

558
00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:25,160
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, we have the most amazing nanny. She loves

559
00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:27,960
Speaker 2: Emma like that to me as a mom is the

560
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:30,080
Speaker 2: most important thing is like he worked with my husband

561
00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:32,400
Speaker 2: works in nine to five, Like I have a very

562
00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:35,400
Speaker 2: erratic schedule. Luckily, right now I can be home a lot.

563
00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:39,679
Speaker 2: But to have somebody else that she can attach to,

564
00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:44,880
Speaker 2: that she knows that she loves is like the deepest

565
00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:48,520
Speaker 2: form of like trust and like security that you could have.

566
00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:51,600
Speaker 2: So I feel very lucky that we have that available

567
00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:54,880
Speaker 2: for us and that Emma can have her. My work

568
00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:57,640
Speaker 2: schedule is really easy actually right now, like a lot

569
00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:01,439
Speaker 2: of it is zoomys and lots of in podcasting from home,

570
00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:06,080
Speaker 2: so I'm able to do that. My priorities have shifted,

571
00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:10,200
Speaker 2: and that's okay. Like I don't know when the next

572
00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:13,360
Speaker 2: like job job I want is, and that's okay too.

573
00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:16,040
Speaker 2: I think I might have to come to me and

574
00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:18,640
Speaker 2: then I might have to consider, like does this feel right?

575
00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:21,560
Speaker 2: But in terms of like events and things. Number one,

576
00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:23,720
Speaker 2: I can't really leave at certain hours because I know

577
00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:27,560
Speaker 2: she has to eat at that time. That's crazy. But

578
00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:30,040
Speaker 2: also like I'm just embracing it. I'm like, great, I

579
00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:31,800
Speaker 2: can't be there at one thirty, So sorry I can't

580
00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:33,840
Speaker 2: be at your event. Thanks so much. That's just the

581
00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:35,159
Speaker 2: way it is, right, Yeah, It's just.

582
00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:37,600
Speaker 1: It's not going to be forever, and it is going

583
00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:39,200
Speaker 1: to be a really short amount of time and also

584
00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:40,120
Speaker 1: your priorities.

585
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:46,360
Speaker 2: They do shift mmm for work, It's like it's hard.

586
00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:49,240
Speaker 2: Like the day that I posted about, I was like,

587
00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:52,479
Speaker 2: I feel empowered. I'm driving to work on by myself.

588
00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:54,160
Speaker 2: I'm able to listen to a pod like a true

589
00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:55,600
Speaker 2: crime because I'm not going to listen to true crime

590
00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:57,680
Speaker 2: around her. But like you know, like you're just on

591
00:28:57,720 --> 00:28:59,600
Speaker 2: your own. You're like, this is empowering, like I can

592
00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:02,320
Speaker 2: do I can do this. And then I got home

593
00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:04,720
Speaker 2: to learn she hadn't taken a bottle from ten to four,

594
00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:08,520
Speaker 2: and that is devastating. It's just you walk in the

595
00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:10,760
Speaker 2: door and go, excuse me, and I'm like, I'm glad

596
00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:12,600
Speaker 2: she didn't tell me in some way because I would

597
00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:14,720
Speaker 2: have rushed home like I would have went, I have

598
00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:18,320
Speaker 2: to leave. And that's hard because you're just like what

599
00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:21,360
Speaker 2: do you do? What do you do? So it was

600
00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:25,360
Speaker 2: really a tough experience and it was a learning experience.

601
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:26,000
Speaker 2: It's all good.

602
00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:28,600
Speaker 1: While you were there, you were really enjoying it. And

603
00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:30,440
Speaker 1: then when I got old, you felt was it your

604
00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:32,720
Speaker 1: first like did you feel mom guilt or what did

605
00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:33,200
Speaker 1: you feel?

606
00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:35,920
Speaker 2: I felt all of it. I felt bad that I

607
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:38,640
Speaker 2: was enjoying I enjoyed it. I felt bad that she

608
00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:43,239
Speaker 2: didn't eat because I wasn't there. Like main thing is like,

609
00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:46,360
Speaker 2: oh God, she didn't need and like that's my fault. Right,

610
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:50,640
Speaker 2: You're like, oh my god, and that's devastating. You're like, oh,

611
00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:53,240
Speaker 2: does that mess up her whole night too? Like if

612
00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:55,440
Speaker 2: she doesn't eat all day, she's gonna be awake all night.

613
00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:58,719
Speaker 2: I'm awake all night. Then that sucks. Like it's a

614
00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:03,240
Speaker 2: lot of you know, like I know in my brain

615
00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:05,920
Speaker 2: like it's not my fault and like it's okay to

616
00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:08,400
Speaker 2: feel this way and like that's not the case. And

617
00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:10,800
Speaker 2: I think that's part of why, like I am a

618
00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:13,600
Speaker 2: bible to reason with myself and go like it's okay

619
00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:15,640
Speaker 2: if one day is off, it's okay. If this is

620
00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:18,440
Speaker 2: you know, you know whatever, if her nap doesn't go well,

621
00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:22,440
Speaker 2: like whatever it is. I think that's the biggest like

622
00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:25,520
Speaker 2: shift for like the control of like you know, she

623
00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:28,120
Speaker 2: goes to bed at one and three and said, like

624
00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:29,960
Speaker 2: she doesn't you know, she sleeps for thirty minutes. She

625
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:31,680
Speaker 2: sleep for thirty minutes, Like whatever, it's.

626
00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:34,080
Speaker 1: Right, right, I know. I feel like us type A

627
00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:37,520
Speaker 1: people are so like people texting with other actors, like

628
00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:40,240
Speaker 1: it's the seven eleven one four seven, and then like

629
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:43,400
Speaker 1: you know, you're like this nap, this nap, and oh god,

630
00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:46,080
Speaker 1: it's so I was so all over that shit with Albie.

631
00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:59,040
Speaker 1: And then my second I'm just like I don't. Yeah,

632
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:01,320
Speaker 1: is there anything you want to teach Emma that you

633
00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:03,160
Speaker 1: felt you missed in your own upbringing?

634
00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:08,160
Speaker 2: Oh my god, that's really deep, Katie. You just took

635
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:13,400
Speaker 2: a turn. I think the biggest thing that I didn't

636
00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:17,600
Speaker 2: learn until I was a little bit older was true

637
00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:22,320
Speaker 2: like self worth, self love, body positivity, or like not

638
00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:29,240
Speaker 2: talking badly about my body about myself in front of her.

639
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:32,479
Speaker 2: Like they absorb so much of what we do and

640
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:36,080
Speaker 2: what we say and how we do it. If I

641
00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:39,480
Speaker 2: don't check myself, what is she gonna do? She's gonna

642
00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:41,640
Speaker 2: emulate her mother. So like I don't want to say, like,

643
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:43,440
Speaker 2: oh I can't have that piece of pizza tonight, Like

644
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:46,800
Speaker 2: you know I'm being good, I'm being bad the good

645
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:50,240
Speaker 2: bad around especially around food. I don't want to reward

646
00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:52,800
Speaker 2: her with food and treats and things, and like not

647
00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:54,800
Speaker 2: saying that my parents did that all the time. But

648
00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:58,239
Speaker 2: there's definitely something that we are learning now in our

649
00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:01,800
Speaker 2: day and age of like how caids you know, see

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Speaker 2: food and themselves and their self worth and their self love.

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Speaker 2: So that to me is really important, not saying that

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Speaker 2: I didn't get that, but you know.

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Speaker 1: But no, but you're going to be putting attention in.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, definitely, it's really like.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, just like making it an intentional choice. You recently

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Speaker 1: wrote and narrated a bedtime story called Emma you Can

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Speaker 1: Be Anything Yeah with Storybook, which is an app that

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Speaker 1: provides bedtime stories, infant massage, and meditations for kids. Why

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Speaker 1: did you choose to write this story? How was creating

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Speaker 1: the story based on your experiences raising Emma?

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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, it was amazing. They have an amazing

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Speaker 2: team of writers. They are so family forward. They are

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Speaker 2: wonderful people who have created this app for mothers and

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Speaker 2: parents and grandparents and whomever. So the app is really great.

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Speaker 2: When they've said, like, we'd love to create a story

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Speaker 2: for you for Emma like number one, just to have

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Speaker 2: that for her to listen to and hear hear my.

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Speaker 1: Voice, incredible. I'm sitting here being like, how do I

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Speaker 1: do that?

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Speaker 2: You can do it?

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Speaker 1: I want to do that. You should?

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Speaker 2: They you should? I will put you in touch with them.

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Speaker 2: They are amazing and they honestly, we just talked. We

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Speaker 2: talked about the things that were important, the things that

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Speaker 2: the way I was raising her, the idea that for

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Speaker 2: me being put into acting as a child and experiencing that.

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Speaker 2: I want her to know that she can do anything.

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Speaker 2: Whatever it is that she wants. I will support her

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Speaker 2: however she wants to go about it. If she wants

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Speaker 2: to change, you know, that's fine. Like just supporting her

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Speaker 2: and giving her the chance to choose and to do

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Speaker 2: things and to try things. And you don't have to

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Speaker 2: be just one thing. The theme of the obviously the

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Speaker 2: poem is like you can be anything. But she I

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Speaker 2: put her in dance class because she's dancing, and then

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Speaker 2: one day she decides she doesn't want to anymore. And

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Speaker 2: I'm like, great, you don't have to try this.

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Speaker 1: What do you want to do?

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Speaker 2: You know that the options are there that she doesn't

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Speaker 2: have to live through me, she can live through herself.

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Speaker 1: Oh that's so beautiful, John, What advice would you like

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Speaker 1: to give your daughter if she gets closer to her

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Speaker 1: one year milestone birthday?

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Speaker 2: That's why.

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Speaker 1: She's gonna be one that it's gonna happen in like

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Speaker 1: one second. It's so close around the corner.

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Speaker 2: It's amazing and devastating at the same time.

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, it's devastating. It goes by too quickly. Yeah, right,

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Speaker 1: But also it's such a huge pat on your shoulders.

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Speaker 1: I think the one year birthday is honestly far more

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Speaker 1: for the mom than it is Frue.

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Speaker 2: I told David, I was like, we're getting a bartender.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I'm talking about. Yeah, what advice would

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Speaker 1: you give her? Got it?

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Speaker 2: One? It's okay to feel, it's okay to be, it's

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Speaker 2: okay to want, like, you know, all these things that

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Speaker 2: she's learning around her. It's amazing to see the world

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Speaker 2: through her eyes, to go through life like that. Like,

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Speaker 2: I would want her to hold on to that as

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Speaker 2: long as she can, to hang on to the idea

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Speaker 2: that like fresh eyed, like bright eyed, bushy tailed thing

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Speaker 2: that we get so jaded along the way. I hope

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Speaker 2: she can hold onto that as long as she possibly can.

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Speaker 1: Oh, am, Emma, finish this sentence. Parenthood is.

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Speaker 2: Wild. That's when we haven't had yet.

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Speaker 1: Oh really, No, wild is great, And I agree with you,

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Speaker 1: and I think you're doing such a great job. I

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Speaker 1: mean the fact that you even look together, like you've

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Speaker 1: like I have a lot of help.

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Speaker 2: Let's be real here, No.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't even matter. I mean I was like so

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Speaker 1: out of my mind. I feel like I did waitress

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Speaker 1: when Albie was seven months old at a full time

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Speaker 1: crying every day all night.

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Speaker 2: Like I was like, so did you say, were you

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Speaker 2: sad they missed bedtime every night? Because I think about

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00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:05,360
Speaker 2: taking a job like that, and you're like, how do

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Speaker 2: you miss that moment every day? You're like.

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Speaker 1: Because it was too new. I mean when you're a

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Speaker 1: first time mom and your baby is so young, like

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Speaker 1: it's really new and hard, and even though you feel

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Speaker 1: like like you said this secret pressure of like I

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Speaker 1: should be okay, like the baby's nine months old, the

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Speaker 1: baby's eight months old, like I should have my shit together,

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Speaker 1: like I should have my body back and my brain

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Speaker 1: back and my my hutzba back to like go, but

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Speaker 1: like it really take took me like two years. I'm

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Speaker 1: not kidding, and it's okay. I still function.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure you did, broad like, but people don't. I

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Speaker 2: think people also, like you see and then people forget,

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Speaker 2: like they come see the baby at four months and

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Speaker 2: it's so tiny and everything is still you're in postpartum.

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Speaker 2: And then once you're like out of that six months,

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Speaker 2: people are like, you got a kid, You're good.

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Speaker 1: You know, like, no, it's not that enough, and it's

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Speaker 1: not that because then they have a sleep regression, and

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Speaker 1: then there we're introducing food, and then we're introducing like walking,

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Speaker 1: and their body has a reaction and you're dealing with

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Speaker 1: first fevers and first colds and you're not good at

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Speaker 1: that yet because you're scared because you've never done it before,

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Speaker 1: and you're how was her first cold?

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Speaker 2: Oh, it's terrible. It's terrible. Her sleep got messed up.

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Speaker 2: She's nodding. She doesn't like me rubbing her nose. She

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Speaker 2: hates them bullb she can't breathe.

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Speaker 1: It's I hope that we get boogie wipes to sponsor

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Speaker 1: this pot godless I use them every Yeah, hey, boogie wipes.

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Speaker 1: If you're listening, we're all loving boogies. Hello, send us

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Speaker 1: some for free. What the hell I'm living in boogie

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Speaker 1: wipes over here for those of you listening. In boogie

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Speaker 1: wipes or like a wipe, but they have like some

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Speaker 1: aloe on them and they're just made for like and

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Speaker 1: saline and they're just meant to wipe babies noses. We

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Speaker 1: were loves, not sucker or any of these things.

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Speaker 2: You call us Hello.

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Speaker 1: Is there anything that I forgot to ask you or

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Speaker 1: you wanted to talk about that we have not yet mention?

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Speaker 2: No, you really fit a lot into her an hour.

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Speaker 2: I'm very impressed. I'm truly impressed.

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Speaker 1: And we even got the biggest laugh that I've ever

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Speaker 1: had on this podcast. I'm not kidding. I will remember

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Speaker 1: that like until the end of time. Everyone listening. The

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Speaker 1: point of today's podcast is that Emma is not a palindrome.

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Speaker 2: I am not well.

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Speaker 1: So I left my husband for the first I left

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Speaker 1: my No, I didn't see guys, I did damage. My

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Speaker 1: brain is not well. Okay, Jenna Ashkowitz everyone, you're the greatest,

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Speaker 1: the best. I need to have you on the podcast

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Speaker 1: again before it turns two. Yeah, because I would like

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Speaker 1: to hear about the next year of her life, all

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Speaker 1: the changes and lessons and traditions and new journeys we

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Speaker 1: have had in this wonderful journey we are on. I

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Speaker 1: adore you you almost birthday to you, bitch, to you,

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Speaker 1: Thanks Katie, thank you everybody for listening. If you have

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Speaker 1: any thoughts, questions, comments, you know I always love to

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Speaker 1: hear from you. You can always contact me at Katie'scrib

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Speaker 1: at shondaland dot com.

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Speaker 2: I tried. I love you, Katie. That was so fun.

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Speaker 1: Katie's Crib is a production of Shondaland Audio in partnership

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