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Speaker 1: two check in with the Seahawks coming up in a
Speaker 1: little bit. I was surprised the greeting that Russell Wilson
Speaker 1: got not during the game. Before the game. I thought
Speaker 1: that they would acknowledge at least what he's done, what
Speaker 1: he did for that organization. Even when Brady went back
Speaker 1: to New England, they acknowledged him with a video tribute.
Speaker 1: I was just a little bit surprised there. Maybe not
Speaker 1: a big deal, but Russ, you know, they tried to
Speaker 1: trade him a couple of times. It wasn't I think
Speaker 1: Russ got to the point where he's like, all right,
Speaker 1: i'll go. Just help me fight a landing spot where
Speaker 1: I want to go, and I'll go. And the fact
Speaker 1: that Pete Carroll and Russell Wilson didn't have any interaction
Speaker 1: prior to that game, I think tells you an awful
Speaker 1: lot about that relationship or lack thereof eight seven seven
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Speaker 1: hundred Seahawks. Hold On beat the Bronchos seventeen to sixteen,
Speaker 1: and a lot of questions there for the coaching philosophy
Speaker 1: strategy that Nathaniel Hackett had for the Bronchos. In the
Speaker 1: final two minutes, they could have won it. They didn't
Speaker 1: play well, but they could have won it. And if
Speaker 1: you're a six six and a half point favored on
Speaker 1: the road, you should be winning those games. But you
Speaker 1: had your opportunity fourth and five. You decided that you
Speaker 1: were going to be in field goal range for sixty
Speaker 1: four yards. The probability of making that was around fourteen percent.
Speaker 1: The probability of letting Russ go for it on fourth
Speaker 1: and five, according to next Gen Stats, was forty two
Speaker 1: point one percent. Yes, do you think that teams they
Speaker 1: have all these analytics people. There's also I've heard that
Speaker 1: teams have like a clock management guy in the sidelines
Speaker 1: telling them what they should do in situations. Is there
Speaker 1: an analytics person who could get in someone's ear at
Speaker 1: that junction and goal. This is the wrong move or
Speaker 1: is the sport football too fast? Analyst guy doesn't have
Speaker 1: that kind of access to the head coach. Well, I
Speaker 1: would think you would have those numbers going into a game. Now,
Speaker 1: this is our kicker. This isn't mile high with the
Speaker 1: altitude at a fifty two hundred feet. This is elevation
Speaker 1: is sixteen feet. So you're not getting any bonus here,
Speaker 1: any added advantage. But I think this is more of
Speaker 1: a in the moment of field decision. Nathaniel Hackett, what
Speaker 1: are you feeling here, Russ. This is why you traded
Speaker 1: for him, That's why you pay him two hundred and
Speaker 1: fifty million dollars. You want him in this situation, you
Speaker 1: need him in the situation. You have him in that situation,
Speaker 1: and you took him off the field. It's really inexcusable.
Speaker 1: Here is Nathaniel Hackett who was hoping or maybe a
Speaker 1: shorter field goal attempt. Obviously I wish we would have
Speaker 1: gotten a lot closer, but it put us in that
Speaker 1: weird spot there because we were in the field goal range,
Speaker 1: but we were on that fourth down situation. Didn't think
Speaker 1: we were gonna get that many yards. So I thought
Speaker 1: it was a great job by Javante, and we just
Speaker 1: made the decision we want to take our shot there
Speaker 1: on that one. Yeah, I don't want a sixty four
Speaker 1: yard field goal. I'm gonna let Russ try to get
Speaker 1: five yards because I don't know how Seattle is going
Speaker 1: to play this, and they might allow you a little
Speaker 1: bit more room to move, and you have two timeouts
Speaker 1: after that, you're going to be in great shape and
Speaker 1: you'll probably get down to maybe a forty yard field goal,
Speaker 1: and that's the average field goal attempt in the NFL,
Speaker 1: A little bit less in that. That's what you want,
Speaker 1: not sixty four. Anybody who's ever played golf knows I
Speaker 1: don't know if I could get there. So you swing harder,
Speaker 1: you do something that's out of the ordinary. I got
Speaker 1: a sixty four yard field goal game on the line,
Speaker 1: and he pulled it left trying too hard instead of
Speaker 1: let me get you into a comfort zone. I have
Speaker 1: Russ in a comfort zone. He loves this. This is
Speaker 1: what he lives for. I got a kicker that I
Speaker 1: didn't put into a comfort zone there. But Russell Wilson,
Speaker 1: no surprise, backed up his coach and the call. I
Speaker 1: believe in coach Hack. I believe what we're doing. Um,
Speaker 1: you know, I believe in everything. And uh, you know,
Speaker 1: anytime you can try to find a way to make
Speaker 1: a play on fourth and five, that's a great too.
Speaker 1: But also I think I think I think it was
Speaker 1: the wrong decision. You know, I think he can make it.
Speaker 1: Obviously hindsight, you know we didn't make it. But if
Speaker 1: we're in that situation again, I wouldn't doubt whatever he decided. Okay,
Speaker 1: Russ is saying all the right thing because it's coded there.
Speaker 1: He talks about, you know, making a play on fourth
Speaker 1: and five. That's that's the real answer there, that he
Speaker 1: wanted to make him play. Of course he backs his coach.
Speaker 1: Should be news if he said, you know, I don't
Speaker 1: know about this hack. I don't know if he can
Speaker 1: hack it. You get that, like yeah, yeah, oh sorry, sorry?
Speaker 1: Is it too soon for the Broncos jokes there? For
Speaker 1: I want the analytics of with two delay of game
Speaker 1: penalties and the false starts and illegal motion and all
Speaker 1: the things that kept pushing them back, You've got a
Speaker 1: factor that in too, that could end up being now
Speaker 1: you're not gonna try sixty nine yard field goal or
Speaker 1: seventy four yard No, maybe a chance. No, if there's
Speaker 1: a false start, now you have to go for it.
Speaker 1: So you're not going to kick a sixty nine yard
Speaker 1: field goal. I wish I had more conference that that
Speaker 1: fourth and five is gonna they have to really go.
Speaker 1: You would have had fourth and ten, not a sixty
Speaker 1: nine yard field goal. I think that's why they decided
Speaker 1: to kick it at that moment. Said that while it
Speaker 1: was sixty four before, they have a false start situation
Speaker 1: and pushes it back. So you agree with the coach
Speaker 1: and that I wasn't as angry as a lot of us. Understand.
Speaker 1: It's Russell, So no, just yes or no, you agree
Speaker 1: with the coaching decision In the moment, I think it's
Speaker 1: simple black and they're kicking. That wasn't myrac so I
Speaker 1: guess I was okay with it. Then My reaction wasn't
Speaker 1: oh my god, they're kicking and not going front on
Speaker 1: fourth and five. That wasn't my reaction. I just thought, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: no no. If Drew Locke still in Denver, I get it.
Speaker 1: You got Russell Wilson that this is where you show
Speaker 1: the Seahawks and the rest of the NFL. Now we're players.
Speaker 1: Now you got to deal with us. We're gonna win
Speaker 1: these games. We would normally lose these games. We're winning
Speaker 1: these games because we had this quarterback. You took him
Speaker 1: off the field, go around. Let's say it was Tom Brady.
Speaker 1: Is he coming off the field fourth and five? Todd No,
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers, Nope, Patrick Mahomes, They'd all still be out
Speaker 1: there on fourth Batley. You have Russell Wilson. I gotta
Speaker 1: I have to trust him, and I want to do
Speaker 1: that from game one on. I want to say to him, Hey,
Speaker 1: let's ride. I'm riding with you. You go whatever happens,
Speaker 1: and you know what, if we don't make it, I'm
Speaker 1: going to answer all the questions here. I believe in
Speaker 1: you go out there, pick up the five yards. We're
Speaker 1: gonna go down and kick the game winning field goal.
Speaker 1: That would be my approach to it. Did he see
Speaker 1: something where he goes? I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 1: If Russ is cooking right now, sixty four yards second longest,
Speaker 1: if they made it in NFL history on the road,
Speaker 1: if it's in Denver, I can at least accept it.
Speaker 1: I can at least go Okay, mile high elevation, hometown home,
Speaker 1: home field, advantage, familiarity, not on the road, sixty four yards,
Speaker 1: not in that situation, and the odds, you know, bear
Speaker 1: that out. Yeah, Polly, I'm to the point where I
Speaker 1: think it was such a wrong call that, let's say
Speaker 1: it was fourth and twelve at that same yard line,
Speaker 1: I would have still kept the ball in Russell's hands,
Speaker 1: And I bet the next gen stats would bear out
Speaker 1: that Russell Wilson went the ball fourth and twelve, you'd
Speaker 1: have a better shot of converting than a sixty four
Speaker 1: yard vehicle. McManus is one for seven in his career. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and it was from over sixty, from over sixty and
Speaker 1: it was sixty one yards, So you're still again, you're
Speaker 1: maxing him out completely. Yeah, I don't want to. Also,
Speaker 1: when I saw what was what Russ was wearing when
Speaker 1: he showed up, I thought, boy, it's gonna be tough
Speaker 1: to go to the podium if you lose wearing that
Speaker 1: shiny light lime green. What color was that? Awqua sea green,
Speaker 1: dan sea green, sea green. I like the jacket and pants,
Speaker 1: I didn't like the tie is too pee wee Hermann Herman. Okay,
Speaker 1: I thought there was a dumb and dumber field to
Speaker 1: the suit. Seaton sent that to me, you know, with
Speaker 1: Jim Carrey's at the bar and he's got the orange
Speaker 1: tuxed putting out the vibe at the bar. When Russ
Speaker 1: came in, I went, man, if you win, that's a
Speaker 1: damn good outfit. I was like, what time is it there?
Speaker 1: Did he just is that from the night before, just
Speaker 1: real early to the Galla Walk of Shame? Yeah, that one,
Speaker 1: that one's tough. That one was. I want to know
Speaker 1: the outfit he decided not to wear if if he said, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I like it. People don't wear tuxedos during the day normally.
Speaker 1: People don't wear tuxedos normally to a football game. Yes time,
Speaker 1: I thought at least some players were they winning versus
Speaker 1: losing outfit. That's why I was surprised he was still
Speaker 1: wearing that. I thought, like, things don't go well, maybe
Speaker 1: I just throw on a Broncos sweatshirt and I had
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna be were that look at me? Here
Speaker 1: I come, I'm entering my old stadium outfit. Well, if
Speaker 1: you if you're bringing another outfit, I don't like that mindset.
Speaker 1: You're bringing a losing outfit. Yeah, maybe he had clothes
Speaker 1: that were similar to what you were yesterday. So no
Speaker 1: underwear that was a losing outfit yesterday. I wouldn't be
Speaker 1: wearing underwear after a loss like that. You gotta let
Speaker 1: something breathe. That was at the heart of year old
Speaker 1: pants by the way. I went out into the kitchen.
Speaker 1: And I don't know if the big German can take
Speaker 1: a picture of this if you're watching, but preparations are
Speaker 1: in place for a eide to the face. The it
Speaker 1: team is still working on the bet that was made yesterday?
Speaker 1: Was it in jest? There you go. If you're watching
Speaker 1: on Peacock, the big German is showing. There's the cross.
Speaker 1: That's very premature. That's a full start on the big German.
Speaker 1: If you want to listen back to what actually happen. Yes, well,
Speaker 1: you know I love about this office is the other
Speaker 1: day I needed pens and paper for work and we
Speaker 1: had none. But we have eighteen pie shows. We did
Speaker 1: cream ready to go, Yes, we do. They priorities here
Speaker 1: pole question for our two seaton O'Connor, oh man, this
Speaker 1: place is the best hour or two I put up
Speaker 1: one that I didn't even really run by you, but
Speaker 1: more entertaining this week college football or the NFL. There's
Speaker 1: a great weekend for both. But the problem is, and
Speaker 1: Paul brought this up earlier when I mentioned this to him,
Speaker 1: college football being on Saturday always gets wiped away by
Speaker 1: the NFL on Sunday Monday. Yeah, pretty much. It's like
Speaker 1: the opening act being better than the featured act. It
Speaker 1: takes a lot to trump the NFL. That was a
Speaker 1: hell of a weekend, though. Yeah. I think if Alabama
Speaker 1: had lost then then maybe because Notre Dame loses, A
Speaker 1: and M loses, and if Alabama had lost to Texas,
Speaker 1: now you get some interesting storylines and the long term ramifications.
Speaker 1: But A and M losing, I didn't think they'd play
Speaker 1: for a national title. Notre Dame that's getting kind of tasty.
Speaker 1: But if Alabama had lost night, say, all right, maybe
Speaker 1: maybe you're going toe to toe. A couple of phone
Speaker 1: calls in here, Warren in Seattle, High Warren, what's on
Speaker 1: your mind? What's up? Dan? Thanks for taking my top
Speaker 1: call six two two thirty three. Thank you, sir, A
Speaker 1: long time Seattle Seahawks fan man, and I got a
Speaker 1: lot of things I wanted to bring up here that
Speaker 1: you guys might want to talk about. But first of all,
Speaker 1: I agree with Paulie because you know, there's a something
Speaker 1: happened with Russ where he changed, you know, and and
Speaker 1: the Seahawks fan like he said, we're kind of conditioned
Speaker 1: where we're part of the game, and nobody was good
Speaker 1: to cheer for Russ like that. I mean I might
Speaker 1: have clapped it, but you wouldn't have heard me over
Speaker 1: the booth. So there there's that right there, you know.
Speaker 1: Um Also in uh, it kind of goes back all
Speaker 1: the way to you know, the super Bowl really and
Speaker 1: the loss, and that's that's a take. I didn't agree
Speaker 1: with paul on because he said the Atlanta one hurt,
Speaker 1: but it felt like I've lost family members then that
Speaker 1: didn't hurt as bad as bad loss. Right there. It
Speaker 1: felt like someone ripped my heart out, you know. And
Speaker 1: I always felt like Russ could have Warren, Warren, can
Speaker 1: you give me the names of the family members you lost?
Speaker 1: Just have that on record, you know, so maybe some
Speaker 1: other people h yeah, by my family probably knows who
Speaker 1: it is. But I'll just leave it at that, you know.
Speaker 1: But I always felt like Russ, you know, if you're
Speaker 1: the quarterback, you know, the right call. And I remember
Speaker 1: you said, actually this was last ride and it was
Speaker 1: like on the two yard line, but if you remember,
Speaker 1: they kind of handed the ball off and I want
Speaker 1: to say he got tripped up. Lynch almost scored in
Speaker 1: that play, and I want to say, that was on
Speaker 1: the sixth inch yard line, you know, and then he
Speaker 1: goes back to m Also, Pete Carroll kind is a
Speaker 1: little too. He loves his coordinators to a fault, you know.
Speaker 1: And I remember Daryl Bevill was kind of getting a
Speaker 1: lot of credit for the Russell Wilson pick, and I
Speaker 1: always felt like he loved Russell. It was like his
Speaker 1: golden boy and makes sense or coordinator QB, you know.
Speaker 1: And there was a lot of feeling for a lot
Speaker 1: of fans that they wanted Russell Wilson to win the
Speaker 1: MVP instead of winning the game. It's like they kind
Speaker 1: of wanted him to get it. And that was and
Speaker 1: I've heard that storyline before, Warren, And thanks for the
Speaker 1: phone call, that they did want Russ to win the MVP,
Speaker 1: because if Marshawn Lynch scores, is Marshawn going to be
Speaker 1: the MVP. But it seems like a long time ago.
Speaker 1: I was just looking for an acknowledgement. That's all, just
Speaker 1: a little acknowledgement. Maybe it's too soon with Russell Wilson
Speaker 1: coming back and it's week one. It's like Peyton Manning
Speaker 1: brought this up last night when he went back to Indianapolis.
Speaker 1: It was year two after he was let go seven
Speaker 1: games into the regular season. Plus they moved on and
Speaker 1: they had Andrew Luck. Like you got to be thrilled.
Speaker 1: Peyton's damaged goods. We got Andrew Luck. Oh you're going, hey, Peyton, Yeah,
Speaker 1: how good to have you back. Even better, we got
Speaker 1: Andrew Luck on our team. You know, Seattle's probably gone,
Speaker 1: you know, damn you Russ. We got Gino Smith and
Speaker 1: Drew Luck. Although Gino Smith played, if he can play
Speaker 1: like that, and you know, you can be competitive. I
Speaker 1: don't know what Jamal Adams. That seemed like a serious injury,
Speaker 1: and I wonder about that as well. But they do
Speaker 1: have some players, they have some playmakers there. I just
Speaker 1: don't know if you can win with Pete's philosophy of
Speaker 1: playing defense and running the football. But it was good
Speaker 1: enough last night. More phone calls coming up. We'll take
Speaker 1: a break we'll check in with the Seahawks. Was there
Speaker 1: any plan to acknowledge Russ? Will there be any plan
Speaker 1: at all to acknowledge Russ? Maybe not down the road.
Speaker 1: I don't know. The next time the Broncos to Seattle
Speaker 1: probably going to be a couple of years there. Well,
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Speaker 1: Seahawks for the Seattle Times. Kind enough to join us
Speaker 1: after last night's festivities. What was the build up like
Speaker 1: this past week, Bob to this matchup? M? Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: pretty much. Will you extuct? I mean, obviously a lot
Speaker 1: of a lot of excitement and eagerness and a lot
Speaker 1: of people curious to see how how this is going
Speaker 1: to turn out. With Russell coming back, I mean, he's um,
Speaker 1: you know, he's he's by far I think, you know,
Speaker 1: I think no offense to mast hassle deck, but I
Speaker 1: think he's the best quarterback and ants and probably the
Speaker 1: probably about the most important player a team history, with
Speaker 1: being the finishing piece on the other team that won
Speaker 1: the city. It's only Super Bowl, but obviously there was
Speaker 1: a lot of contentiousness over the last two years basically
Speaker 1: and leading up into the trade. So, um, you know,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of the mixed and conflicting emotions. And
Speaker 1: I think you said that come out at at the
Speaker 1: stadium last night. I guess I was a little bit surprised.
Speaker 1: And I know this is outside looking in, and that
Speaker 1: is there was really no acknowledgement or tribute to Russ
Speaker 1: prior to the game. It felt like as soon as
Speaker 1: he walked out, that was it. We don't know who
Speaker 1: you are, we don't care who you are. And I
Speaker 1: was just wondering about that that even when Brady went
Speaker 1: back to New England, I mean, they did give a
Speaker 1: little bit of a tribute, a video tribute to him.
Speaker 1: So why was there no grace period or a hey,
Speaker 1: we'll spend three minutes. Now we move on and you're
Speaker 1: the opposition. Yeah, you know, I didn't ask that question
Speaker 1: specifically of anybody, so I guess I don't know if
Speaker 1: if the organization considered it, but I think that goes
Speaker 1: in a little bit with Pete Carroll's always compete kind
Speaker 1: of thing that you know that he's on the side.
Speaker 1: He's on the other side now, and there's that there
Speaker 1: will be a time and place for doing that. You know,
Speaker 1: maybe maybe ten or fifteen years from now when everybody's
Speaker 1: hears are over. So that's a long time, Bob. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: Well but as you know, you know better than anybody,
Speaker 1: you know, Russell sort of wanted out, you know. So
Speaker 1: I think they're like, you know, are you gonna you know,
Speaker 1: a guy who guy who wanted out of town? Are
Speaker 1: we then gonna just kind of welcoming back with open
Speaker 1: arms the one time he comes back as as the opponent,
Speaker 1: you know. So I think there's some of that at
Speaker 1: play here, you know, I think it. I mean, we
Speaker 1: all know this wasn't you know, this wasn't the totally
Speaker 1: smooth but in fairness to Russ, and I don't want
Speaker 1: to be the Russ whisperer, but you know, the story
Speaker 1: that came out in twenty eighteen is they were they
Speaker 1: were gonna trade they were in trade Russ to Cleveland
Speaker 1: to get you know, uh, the number one pick on
Speaker 1: the draft, and they were gonna take Josh Josh Ellen.
Speaker 1: So I don't know how close that I don't know
Speaker 1: how close that. I mean, I don't know that that
Speaker 1: was more than about three minute conversation. It was just
Speaker 1: sort of a you know, would you actually entertain this?
Speaker 1: I think that was more of the Seahawks just kind
Speaker 1: of trying to see if anybody even would do something
Speaker 1: like that at that time, and just kind of trying
Speaker 1: to gaze the market. I thought there was a report
Speaker 1: that came out that that was acknowledged, and also you know, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm saying I think I do. Yeah, I do think
Speaker 1: they talked that, but I don't think it was it
Speaker 1: was will do it? If you say yes, I don't
Speaker 1: think it was that close. I think it was more
Speaker 1: of a you know, just two GM's talking kind of thing.
Speaker 1: But do you think Pete like they didn't even acknowledge
Speaker 1: each other on the field pregame. I don't think they
Speaker 1: did not pregame. They did after the game, but yeah,
Speaker 1: they know they they didn't pregame, But I don't know
Speaker 1: that they were on the field together a whole lot um,
Speaker 1: you know. I Russ sort of did his his pregame thing,
Speaker 1: you know, pretty early, and Pete was you know, and
Speaker 1: maybe Pete intentionally wasn't out there at that early, but
Speaker 1: a lot of times he's not, you know, the two
Speaker 1: hours prior to the game thing when when everybody's out there,
Speaker 1: and then once you know, once the teams are out
Speaker 1: there doing their doing their things together. But again I
Speaker 1: don't it's pretty obvious, isn't it to the outside world.
Speaker 1: This wasn't a happy breakup. So you know, I, you know,
Speaker 1: I don't know. If you see your ex wife, it's
Speaker 1: some social function to you then kind of go up
Speaker 1: and ask like you act like your best friends, you know,
Speaker 1: the first time you see them. Well, I usually do
Speaker 1: a video tribute. Time is going to be needed here. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I would do a video tribute if I was married
Speaker 1: before and I saw my ex wife, you know, I'd
Speaker 1: always do that. Okay. So I think a lot of
Speaker 1: people on the outside looking in thought Seattle maybe they're
Speaker 1: tanking that they didn't really make a move. You know,
Speaker 1: their move is they traded Russ and they got Drew
Speaker 1: Locke and he's not good enough to beat out Geno Smith.
Speaker 1: But here you are winning a game. So what is
Speaker 1: the philosophy of the Seahawks this year? And you know,
Speaker 1: winning and losing games, Well, it's to win as many
Speaker 1: games as they can. I don't know that that's any
Speaker 1: different than a sever band. And you know, they've never
Speaker 1: stayed in that. Um, they feel like they have a
Speaker 1: pretty strong roster otherwise. And you know, I think that's
Speaker 1: what showed up a little bit last night was with
Speaker 1: their defense. You know, Pete Carroll is uh, you know
Speaker 1: this is I think Pete Carroll is pretty excited about
Speaker 1: this team, believe it or not, because I think it's
Speaker 1: the kind of team that plays the way he wants
Speaker 1: to play, which again is at the heart of the
Speaker 1: matter of why Russell Wilson is on the other side. Now, Um,
Speaker 1: you know, he likes he likes a team that that
Speaker 1: leads with its defense and doesn't turn the ball over
Speaker 1: and and uh, you know, they didn't really have a
Speaker 1: strong running game last night, which if there's something from
Speaker 1: the Shattle standpoint to to sort of be concerned about,
Speaker 1: it's that. You know, I think they really wanted to
Speaker 1: run the ball a lot more and a lot better
Speaker 1: than they did. Um. Obviously the second half was a
Speaker 1: little bit of a slog offensively for them, but but
Speaker 1: you know, a lot of the rest of the things
Speaker 1: they did, you know, they didn't commit a lot of penalties,
Speaker 1: they didn't turn the ball over. Um, you know, that's
Speaker 1: all right up Pete's alley. And I think he thinks
Speaker 1: that is a team that can do that and if
Speaker 1: they could get adequate quarterback, he played that they can
Speaker 1: be a competitive team this year. You know, for all
Speaker 1: the talk of that they just wanted to try to
Speaker 1: get a quarterback out of the draft next year. I
Speaker 1: you know, I do think that's certainly um in the thinking.
Speaker 1: But with you know, the two the two first round
Speaker 1: picks they have and the two second round picks they have,
Speaker 1: I think they feel like that's something they could get
Speaker 1: done even without going two and fifteen or whatever. You
Speaker 1: know that they have the AMMO to you know, have
Speaker 1: a ton of cap space with what once Russell comes
Speaker 1: completely off the books next year as well. Um, you know,
Speaker 1: so they don't have the cap space and the draft
Speaker 1: pick AMMO to if they need to make a trade
Speaker 1: to move up to try to get a certain guy
Speaker 1: that they want, that they'll be able to do it
Speaker 1: that way. How surprised were you that the Broncos went
Speaker 1: for the field goal as opposed to letting Russ go
Speaker 1: for fourth and five. Yeah, I was really surprised by that.
Speaker 1: I didn't. I wasn't in the moment, I wasn't even
Speaker 1: expecting that. I and you know, I think we were
Speaker 1: all up there wondering why they're letting the clock round
Speaker 1: in the way they were. It was like, this is
Speaker 1: really odd clock management. They don't seem to be in
Speaker 1: a hurry here and um and they had the three
Speaker 1: time out, so it was it was definitely curious, and um,
Speaker 1: you know, I everybody seemed to say the right things
Speaker 1: to word. On the Denver side, I saw Russell study
Speaker 1: didn't think it was a bad decision and all that, so, um,
Speaker 1: you know, who knows, But yeah, I was. I was
Speaker 1: really surprised by that because you know, fourth and five
Speaker 1: is not a you know, less of fourth and twenty five,
Speaker 1: So um, it's certainly a it's certainly a gettable distance
Speaker 1: and there's an awful lot of things that could happen,
Speaker 1: and um, so for sure, Yeah, I was definitely surprised
Speaker 1: by that. How loud was it compared to other games
Speaker 1: in that building? Um, They've been an awful lot of
Speaker 1: loud games, So I don't know that it was, you know,
Speaker 1: any louder than some of the really big games. They've
Speaker 1: played through the years, you know, like the the you know,
Speaker 1: the two NFC Championship games and some of the other
Speaker 1: games in that era. But it felt more like that
Speaker 1: than the games of the past year certainly. Um, you know,
Speaker 1: I obviously, you know, last year they didn't get off
Speaker 1: to a great start, and you know, there weren't there
Speaker 1: weren't weren't necessarily a ton of really super exciting moments
Speaker 1: um there last year. So it definitely felt like, you know,
Speaker 1: kind of the primetime games. Certainly, the pregame scene was,
Speaker 1: you know, the words that a lot of people use
Speaker 1: was it was kind of surreal with with see and
Speaker 1: Russell on the other side, and there was certainly some
Speaker 1: booy directed toward him, and you know, so that was
Speaker 1: that was a little bit different than you often see there. Well,
Speaker 1: good to talk to you, Bob, and thanks for joining us. Okay,
Speaker 1: all right, thanks, that's Bob Condota. He covers the Seahawks
Speaker 1: for the Seattle time. I know there's animosity, you know,
Speaker 1: whatever their relationship was there is nonexistent. I just thought
Speaker 1: the Seahawks as an organization would have done two minutes
Speaker 1: on RUSS And maybe you don't want to take away
Speaker 1: from that home field advantage in that atmosphere. Fine with that,
Speaker 1: I understand it. I just thought, Okay, this is Russell
Speaker 1: Wilson coming back, and I do think that they tried
Speaker 1: to trade him a couple of times. Now Bob can say, oh,
Speaker 1: they probably talked for three minutes. Okay, who's the one
Speaker 1: that initiated this. Did the Browns go we'll take Russ
Speaker 1: and the number one? You know, will give you the
Speaker 1: number one pick? Because I'm here and it's Seattle was
Speaker 1: saying we'll give you Russ and we want the number
Speaker 1: one pick. It wasn't Cleveland saying, hey, we'll take Ross
Speaker 1: and give you the number one pick. It was the
Speaker 1: other way around. Because Seattle went to see Josh Allen's
Speaker 1: pro day. So that's why it from Seattle's perspective, they
Speaker 1: initiated this. You go to your pro day and you
Speaker 1: see Josh Allen, then you decide why would anything change
Speaker 1: with Cleveland. Did they go to the pro day and say, oh,
Speaker 1: we got to get rid of the number one pick?
Speaker 1: And once again, I'm not a Russell Wilson you know
Speaker 1: whisperer here. I know enough, but it's not like I
Speaker 1: correspond with him. But you know, seeing what the situation,
Speaker 1: I don't think he was ever beloved there, and you know,
Speaker 1: maybe he's not embraceable. I don't know. Once again, I'm
Speaker 1: on the outside looking in the information I've received about this,
Speaker 1: it feels like Russ probably was a scapegoat here. Pete
Speaker 1: Carroll has a philosophy that doesn't fit in with if
Speaker 1: I'm a good quarterback, I don't want to go to Seattle.
Speaker 1: Why do I want to want to play for Pete Carroll?
Speaker 1: And you go from a philosophy that you had at
Speaker 1: USC where you're like, hey, Madliner, go out there, have
Speaker 1: some fun. I got weapons, Let's go. Let's have some fun.
Speaker 1: You know, Seattle it's like play defense, run the football. Well,
Speaker 1: unless Kenneth Walker is going to play like, they don't
Speaker 1: have an exciting running game. And what do you have?
Speaker 1: Two rookies at tackles like Rashad Penny that's not formidable.
Speaker 1: So you did win a game you won with Gino Smith,
Speaker 1: Jamal Adams might be seriously injured, and are you going
Speaker 1: to be at seven win six win team? I still
Speaker 1: get the feeling that that's who Seattle is this year. Yeah,
Speaker 1: seem not to pile on and make things worse. But
Speaker 1: Mo on Twitter just updated us that if the NFL
Speaker 1: Draft was held tomorrow, the Seahawks would have the second
Speaker 1: overall pick courtesy of the Denver Bronk The Denver Broncos,
Speaker 1: that's correct, the last place, Denver Broncos. That's correct, last
Speaker 1: with Raiders. Thank you, Todd. Yeah, Paul, that story though
Speaker 1: about the possible trade of Russell Wilson, even though it
Speaker 1: was just broached by bobca Dadda, he kind of downplayed it.
Speaker 1: You know, twenty seventeen, two eighteen, Russell Wilson had thirty
Speaker 1: four touchdowns leading the NFL thirty five touchdowns, second in
Speaker 1: the NFL very low picks playoffs, Pro Bowls age thirty
Speaker 1: not thirty four, thirty six, and they were shopping him
Speaker 1: to the Cleveland Browns for the number one pick. That
Speaker 1: even just that phone call is pretty nutty that they
Speaker 1: made it. But they are the ones that initiated this
Speaker 1: because they went to the Pro day Cleveland had the
Speaker 1: number one pick. You know, did Cleveland say, well, we
Speaker 1: didn't see anough with Josh Allen. You want the number
Speaker 1: one pick for Russell Wilson. It would have come from Seattle. Hey,
Speaker 1: Oh my god, we saw Josh Allen. He's unbelievable. Hey,
Speaker 1: we'll give you Russell Wilson for the number one overall pick.
Speaker 1: Cleveland didn't even take Josh Allen obviously. Yes, let's say
Speaker 1: somehow that trade came to fruition and it was announced
Speaker 1: by Adam Schefter. The Cleveland Browns have traded and they're
Speaker 1: gonna pick of the draft for Russell Wilson. They're gonna
Speaker 1: use on Josh Allen, a Wyoming quarterback who's a fifty
Speaker 1: two percent passer in college. They would have got crushed
Speaker 1: the Seattle. Now, long term, it would have been a
Speaker 1: great move, absolutely, but they would have been decimated because
Speaker 1: Josh Allen revisious history. Go back and look at the draft.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of people who do not believe in them.
Speaker 1: They said big arm, no, aim no. And Cleveland did
Speaker 1: scout Josh Allen. And you know, because I broke the
Speaker 1: story that they were taking Baker Mayfield, and that's surprised
Speaker 1: to everybody. But you know, I think a lot of
Speaker 1: people thought they were gonna take Josh Allen because he
Speaker 1: looked like the prototypical NFL quarterback. But it's not you know,
Speaker 1: a big deal with Seattle and how they greeted Russ.
Speaker 1: I just thought, you know, somebody looking from outside in,
Speaker 1: it would have been nice if they just did something there.
Speaker 1: That's all. You know. Maybe I'm you know, getting old
Speaker 1: and sentimental, but you know when somebody gives you that
Speaker 1: and plays hard and you know, you won a super Bowl,
Speaker 1: nearly won another one. And he was the best player
Speaker 1: on the field in that second Super Bowl in my opinion. Yeah. Point.
Speaker 1: I went back and look at Josh Allen's college stats.
Speaker 1: I don't remember. He was a sophomore. He was a
Speaker 1: fifty six percent pass or had twenty eight touchdowns. That's
Speaker 1: where he kind of got on the map. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: a senior year he lost some skill position players. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and he had an off season for him, But he
Speaker 1: was a fifty six percent passer. Just to give you
Speaker 1: an idea, Lamar Jackson was criticized for his accuracy. He
Speaker 1: was a seventy percent passer. Josh Allen had sixteen touchdowns
Speaker 1: and six picks in the Mountain West. His stats were
Speaker 1: he wasn't in top three passer in his conference, and
Speaker 1: he was still a high traffick. The stats didn't bear
Speaker 1: out his abilities, but Seattle was willing to trade Russell
Speaker 1: Wilson for him, or at least you kick the tires.
Speaker 1: So if you're Russ, you're going what And I don't
Speaker 1: think that's the only time they considered trading Russell Wilson.
Speaker 1: Let's see Donnie and Omaha, Hi Donnie, what's on your mind? Hey? Dan? Uh?
Speaker 1: You know what's on my mind mostly is a big
Speaker 1: red And I add a question for you, and then
Speaker 1: I have a part of the space be okay, you
Speaker 1: see do you see a pathway for Mickey to become
Speaker 1: the head coach at Nebraska and and be promoted from
Speaker 1: interim through wins this season? And then also a part
Speaker 1: of the face I've got my New Orleans Saints continuing
Speaker 1: a sweet Tom Brady as he attempts to make a
Speaker 1: final run here to the Super Bowl. Um, I don't
Speaker 1: know if anybody's willing to bet you on on the
Speaker 1: Saints and the Buccaneers. And I don't know enough about
Speaker 1: Mickey Joseph. I mean, if you win, then you're gonna
Speaker 1: have a chance, But I don't know if you're athletic
Speaker 1: Director trev Alberts goes, we need a big name. We're
Speaker 1: Nebraska I'm gonna guess they would, they would lean towards
Speaker 1: a big name, but I don't. I don't know, And
Speaker 1: they might be one of those teams by the end
Speaker 1: of the year who are really good because they have
Speaker 1: a lot of new faces, a lot of transfers have it.
Speaker 1: But I don't know if Urban Meyer's interested. I just said,
Speaker 1: my source said, if you're looking for a spot where
Speaker 1: Urban could go in and it could be open, it's
Speaker 1: Arizona State because you can get your players in. You know,
Speaker 1: you're gonna have name, image and likeness you can take
Speaker 1: advantage of. It's a great campus and from and I
Speaker 1: was told my source said Arizona State would be a
Speaker 1: sleeping giant. So that that's just his opinion on it,
Speaker 1: not Hey, I'm hearing if they fire herm Edwards, Urban's
Speaker 1: going to take the job. And the same thing with Nebraska.
Speaker 1: It was brought up and PAULI said it, and my
Speaker 1: source text me to say, Pauli's not wrong that Urban
Speaker 1: you know in Nebraska could work. Scott Frost hadn't even
Speaker 1: been fired. Now maybe we realized he was going to be,
Speaker 1: but we're just sort of looking at the landscape. Is
Speaker 1: Urban Meyer going to be an analyst the rest of
Speaker 1: you know his career. No, he's not. I don't think so.
Speaker 1: What is he fifty six years of age? I think
Speaker 1: he's fifty eight and he'll coach again. If you could
Speaker 1: coach Nebraska and coach in the Big Ten. I don't
Speaker 1: know Arizona State. Well, can you go to Arizona State
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden be the class of the
Speaker 1: you know, the PAC twelve. I'm just throwing out things
Speaker 1: that were suggested to me. There was no report attached
Speaker 1: to this. It's like I had, you know, Nebraska fan saying, hey,
Speaker 1: are you happy Scott Frost? Scott fired? Now Urban Meyer
Speaker 1: can take over a moment. I have no emotion attached
Speaker 1: to it whatsoever. Yeah, polling, it reminds me and it's
Speaker 1: apples and oranges because Steve Spurrier didn't do anything wrong.
Speaker 1: When Steve Spurrier, after Florida, which he was very successful,
Speaker 1: went to the Washington Redskins, he washed out there, didn't
Speaker 1: work out. He's not a pro coach. He is a
Speaker 1: college coach, just like urb Meier's at college coach. South
Speaker 1: Carolina took a chance on Spurrier and he had much
Speaker 1: much less baggage than Urban Meyer has in South Carolina
Speaker 1: had some good days with Steve Spurrier had some good
Speaker 1: they became relevant, and there might be an awkward press
Speaker 1: conference and a couple awkward weeks from Nebraska football if
Speaker 1: they brought in Urban Meyer. But the winning games is
Speaker 1: the only thing that mattered. Urban wanted USC from what
Speaker 1: I'm told, But USC, with everything that's gone on on
Speaker 1: campus off the football field, they have a lot of
Speaker 1: other things to address and having Urban Meyer on campus
Speaker 1: was not something that that new president wanted to deal with.
Speaker 1: But I was told that Urban was, you know, priority
Speaker 1: number one on their job search there. Yeah, Poe going
Speaker 1: back to Steve Spuror with South Carolina hired him. He
Speaker 1: was okay for the first couple of years. He had
Speaker 1: three straight eleven win seasons in the SEC with at
Speaker 1: South Carolina. That's the big time stuff. He could coach
Speaker 1: college football. He was not built for the NFL. He
Speaker 1: didn't even know defensive players' names. He did not. He
Speaker 1: loved his offense and what he did at Duke. He
Speaker 1: made Duke relevant and Spurrier was a wonderful college coach.
Speaker 1: All right, Well, take a break. More phone calls coming
Speaker 1: up back after this. Thanks for listening to The Dan
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Speaker 1: you may know me for the world of football or
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Speaker 1: know is for my entire life. I have lived in
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Speaker 1: the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Russ,
Speaker 1: of course gave us let's ride preseason. After last night,
Speaker 1: I felt like, let's hide it's high dang, that's messed up.
Speaker 1: That's not his fault on the fourth and podcaplay and
Speaker 1: there was inconsistency. What about the other plays they didn't
Speaker 1: score for four trips into the red zone and it's
Speaker 1: the coach, Coach Hacken. Maybe he's hiding today, But to Russ,
Speaker 1: I'm sure he'd be ready to go out there and
Speaker 1: try to get five yards. Well, it feels like coach
Speaker 1: was hiding Russ on the bench, you know, as he
Speaker 1: said in mister McManus, let's hide Russ. Too soon? Yes, okay,
Speaker 1: way too soon? Good. The IT team will have a
Speaker 1: report coming up at the top of the hour, and
Speaker 1: the question is does Fritzie get a pie in the
Speaker 1: face after losing a bet, a friendly wager with Seaton yesterday?
Speaker 1: I haven't had enough torment after last night. Yes. Would
Speaker 1: you go by Nathaniel if you're named Nate? Remember years
Speaker 1: ago we talked about when Mitch Trubisky came into league.
Speaker 1: There was a report that he wanted to go by
Speaker 1: Mitchell Trubisky and that was like number one topic on
Speaker 1: our show that day. Of course, no, his mom wanted
Speaker 1: him to go by Mitchell, and the media took it
Speaker 1: and thought that he wanted Mitchell. Would you go by
Speaker 1: Nate or Nathaniel? Haven't given it too much thought, Paulie,
Speaker 1: break it down. Yeah, I'm worried about Fritzie's health, his
Speaker 1: mental state of mind. I think you're Nathaniel Hacket the third,
Speaker 1: but you're Nate Hackett. If you got a Roman numeral,
Speaker 1: then you go Nathaniel Broncos over under for Winds according
Speaker 1: to Draft Kings after last night's lost, it's too soon. No, No,
Speaker 1: you know guys that said they're still sixteen about Okay,
Speaker 1: I don't work for Draft Kings. No. I would say
Speaker 1: they'd go from nine and a half to eight and
Speaker 1: a half after that loss. Okay, I guess I don't know.
Speaker 1: The over under Broncos is set at nine and a
Speaker 1: half after the loss. Yeah, I thought they'd go from
Speaker 1: nine and a half to two eight and a half
Speaker 1: after losing. Wiko. Okay, let's see anybody taking the over time.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna hold off on that one. Wait to see
Speaker 1: if I'm getting a pie in the face of an hour.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna hold off on that particular. The Ram's over
Speaker 1: under is ten Wins, nine Ers nine and a half,
Speaker 1: the Bills over under twelve and a half, Kansas City eleven,
Speaker 1: Chargers eleven, Packers ten and a half, Eagles ten and
Speaker 1: a half, Bengals nine and a half, Cardinals over under
Speaker 1: seven and a half. You're not making the playoffs. There
Speaker 1: is Cliff Kingsbury, though attached to Kyler Murray, moving forward
Speaker 1: through sickness and in health till death or finishing in
Speaker 1: last place. Do us part? Yes? Done? I think they
Speaker 1: are kind of attached at the hip. Dak Prescott had
Speaker 1: surgery yesterday and I was wondering, Let's say you've spent
Speaker 1: two months getting your appointment to have surgery done by
Speaker 1: this doctor, you know, the team doctor. Probably sees other patients,
Speaker 1: but he is still the team doctor. Most of those
Speaker 1: doctors do. Let's say you're Jimmy Lipper and you're supposed
Speaker 1: to have knee surgery and you're supposed to be in
Speaker 1: there at seven am getting all ready, and then Dak
Speaker 1: Prescott needs thumb surgery, and all of a sudden you
Speaker 1: get bumped. Does Dak will win there? And they go, uh,
Speaker 1: you haven't met your deductible. Uh, we've been trying to
Speaker 1: get ahold of anthem and we can't get anybody on
Speaker 1: the phone with your insurance. Here you work for who
Speaker 1: Dak is short for what he felt his paperwork. But
Speaker 1: if you're a Cowboys fan and you you're sitting a
Speaker 1: lot in the waiting room, you're getting bumped back three
Speaker 1: hours for Dak Prescott. That's kind of an honor, right, guess.
Speaker 1: But what if they say, can't, can't have your knee
Speaker 1: surgery today? Got dad get there? Yes time. And it's
Speaker 1: your choice to play this violent sports. If you get hurt,
Speaker 1: we're not gonna fully cover that. That's what you're taking
Speaker 1: a chance. We'll cover like seventy thirty. T J. Watt
Speaker 1: has a slight tear, partial tear of his pack, and uh,
Speaker 1: they said, basically it's about pain threshold. Well you're saying
Speaker 1: that to somebody in the Watch family. Come on, obviously
Speaker 1: he'll play. They tear packs, eating breakfast. Those guys corn
Speaker 1: on the cob. They'll put it together. But I guess
Speaker 1: he could have been for the entire year. Maybe you'll
Speaker 1: be back in in a month or so. Yeah, poet,
Speaker 1: So basically it with the tornpeck Partially it's it's a choice.
Speaker 1: You know. Eventually they could treat it to so much,
Speaker 1: tape it up. That's the way we used to do
Speaker 1: it in the old days. Staples staples in there, the
Speaker 1: old Wats used to do. But now it's just gonna
Speaker 1: be like he's got to play through pain. He get
Speaker 1: I don't know if he gets shot up, he taped up,
Speaker 1: shot up whatever, God, that sounds awful. That doesn't sound
Speaker 1: fun at all. Yeah, when they when they give you
Speaker 1: that uh which that trod all that just felt like
Speaker 1: that was the Hey, this will fix it. Whatever you
Speaker 1: got wrong with you, We'll just shoot you help with this.
Speaker 1: That'll fix it, all right. We'll find out from the
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