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Speaker 1: This is our life, this is our passion. That's the

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Speaker 1: spirit we bring to this show. I'm Luke Thomas, I'm

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Speaker 1: Brian Campbell.

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Speaker 2: This this Morning Combat.

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Speaker 1: All to the yeah, get some of what we got

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Speaker 1: going on here. Monday morning, June seventeenth, twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 1: Say the thirtieth anniversary of OJ running.

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Speaker 2: It is the white Ford Bronco.

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Speaker 1: All right to the Jews. Hey, this is Morning Combat

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Speaker 1: right here, Brian Campbell, Luke Thomas, rush off the bird.

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Speaker 1: At least. I was late last night on Father's Day

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Speaker 1: from a momentous week in Las Vegas for all things PBC,

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Speaker 1: Tank Davis and all that. We'll get to that today.

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Speaker 1: But Luke, we're gonna give the people what they want.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna give them what they deserve, and that is

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Speaker 2: It's a little much, but I hope to do a

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Speaker 2: good show that people are happy with today. How about that?

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Speaker 1: All right, you're feeling good? You have a good Father's

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Speaker 2: I had a phenomenal Father's Day. My wife took me

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Speaker 2: to watch a movie. I got to see Godzilla Minus one.

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Speaker 2: No at home, at home. The theater is you know,

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Speaker 2: that's for people who are dogs, you know, I mean,

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Speaker 2: I love the theater too, but there's a lot of

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Speaker 2: people who just won't get off their fucking cell phones.

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Speaker 2: Yeah you can maybe right.

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Speaker 1: When you're going to experience, then even move, you got

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Speaker 2: Right, you don't have to. It might improve the experience.

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Speaker 1: So maybe the best I've ever seen.

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Speaker 2: Godzilla minus one.

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Speaker 1: Well, I have seen the rundown for this show, Luke,

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Speaker 2: Right, it's very loaded. We got a lot of you

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Speaker 2: we have. We're in obviously the Las Vegas all week

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Speaker 1: On at twelve eastern, we're expecting a fantastic guest that

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Speaker 1: we missed last time around. How about Randy Cooter? How

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Speaker 2: That's what they say. That's what they say. They they say,

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Speaker 2: the natural is going to be here.

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Speaker 1: Now. Was he Naddy throughout his entire career?

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Speaker 2: So we asked him that that's the name. That's the name.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't know if the branding works

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Speaker 1: They're Long Island, Luke on the ones and twos, Hey Gaffney,

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Speaker 2: At least we don't have a camera, but we got

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Speaker 1: I feel like since this relaunch of Morning Combat, we're

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Speaker 2: The people have asked what that would mean relative to

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Speaker 1: And if you're wondering whether we're going to break down

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Speaker 2: me to put him in pound for pound conversations because

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00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:05,440
Speaker 2: a fight like Saturday, to me felt a little bit

435
00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:07,760
Speaker 2: more like you've been gone for a while. It's a

436
00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:10,960
Speaker 2: little tune up ish. Frank Martin not so he's wasn't

437
00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:12,920
Speaker 2: supposed to be. So here's the thing. Frank Martin is

438
00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:15,639
Speaker 2: ranked fifth in the world, so he's not in certain

439
00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:19,600
Speaker 2: places roughly around five, so he's not exactly a tune

440
00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:22,280
Speaker 2: up in that sense. But it felt like that was

441
00:19:22,359 --> 00:19:25,520
Speaker 2: the distance between them, and Dravante admitting he was a

442
00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:28,320
Speaker 2: little bit rusty in the end. He wasn't going for Chakor,

443
00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:30,240
Speaker 2: who still has one more fight with top rank. But

444
00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:32,680
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna say this, we'll talk about what comes next,

445
00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:35,600
Speaker 2: whether it's Loma or whether it's shaquor for a guy

446
00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:38,240
Speaker 2: to be off this long to take on an opponent

447
00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:42,320
Speaker 2: this good, and it still served to me more of

448
00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:45,960
Speaker 2: something closer to a tune up, where one guy's ability

449
00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:48,800
Speaker 2: to just kind of not coast but improvise his way

450
00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:52,199
Speaker 2: through it and still end up exactly the way you

451
00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:56,320
Speaker 2: thought it would tells you very clearly that's the best

452
00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:58,159
Speaker 2: lightweight in boxing with a bullet.

453
00:19:58,160 --> 00:20:00,960
Speaker 1: And he's back and dialed in after that long layoff. Obviously,

454
00:20:01,040 --> 00:20:04,080
Speaker 1: the controversy about his constant legal issues outside of the ring.

455
00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:06,199
Speaker 1: You hope that this is now, at twenty nine years old,

456
00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:08,000
Speaker 1: the mature Tank that's going to put his career in

457
00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:10,359
Speaker 1: family first and make the right decisions. But boy, did

458
00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:12,400
Speaker 1: they make the right decisions in the ring. So yeah,

459
00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:14,200
Speaker 1: I talked to up Frank Martin as a live dog.

460
00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:16,000
Speaker 1: I didn't love the betting odds. I didn't love Tank

461
00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:18,119
Speaker 1: being a seven to one favorite. Look, he fought like

462
00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:20,640
Speaker 1: a seven to one favorite there walking down. So here's

463
00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:22,720
Speaker 1: what I look. If you're gonna put some superlatives on

464
00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:25,960
Speaker 1: Frank Martin, his defense in the early going was good.

465
00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:28,760
Speaker 1: He kind of fought intelligently to not overextend and get

466
00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:31,520
Speaker 1: lit up. But I got a lot of issues. You know,

467
00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:33,040
Speaker 1: I'm not going to say he laid an egg Luke,

468
00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:34,920
Speaker 1: but I got a lot of issues with how he

469
00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:37,320
Speaker 1: Frank Morton, Yeah, with how he kind of allowed himself

470
00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:39,960
Speaker 1: to get swallowed up. Look, Tank decided Tank is going

471
00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:41,439
Speaker 1: to give away earlyer on, so he always does to

472
00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:43,320
Speaker 1: sort of read. And he also said, look, I was rusty,

473
00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:44,919
Speaker 1: it was part of it. But he came out with

474
00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:48,119
Speaker 1: the Floyd Mayweather versus Connor McGregor attack, high guard, walking

475
00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:51,520
Speaker 1: Frank back and really aimed at wearing down his gas

476
00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:54,360
Speaker 1: tank through the intimidation and the threat of the pressure.

477
00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:57,840
Speaker 1: Only Look, it wasn't pressure with punches. It was pressure

478
00:20:57,920 --> 00:21:00,440
Speaker 1: with the threat of punches. And this is what makes

479
00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:04,840
Speaker 1: Tank so dynamic and so efficient and ridiculous compybox numbers.

480
00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:06,639
Speaker 1: What do we always say, the old adages, if you

481
00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:08,719
Speaker 1: land forty percent of your power shots, you probably won

482
00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:10,960
Speaker 1: the fight. Look, he landed fifty three percent of his

483
00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:14,640
Speaker 1: power shots. He landed forty four percent of his punches overall.

484
00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:18,439
Speaker 1: That's ridiculous. But what I didn't love about Frank was

485
00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:21,480
Speaker 1: once the fatigue started to set in and Tank was

486
00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:25,240
Speaker 1: able to corner him at will from post to post

487
00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:28,199
Speaker 1: to post to post, just constantly backing him up. And

488
00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:30,159
Speaker 1: then once Frank got tired. Even though Frank did a

489
00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:32,680
Speaker 1: good job in those middle rounds of landing, Bick left

490
00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:34,320
Speaker 1: hands to get his back off the ropes to get

491
00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:36,080
Speaker 1: out of trouble. He saw the marks, Like he said,

492
00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:40,840
Speaker 1: on Tank's face. He was way too willing to set

493
00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:43,200
Speaker 1: up shop in the corner. And when this eventually ended

494
00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:44,960
Speaker 1: the way it did in the eighth round, with that brutality,

495
00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:47,639
Speaker 1: you've got Frank squatting down, almost sitting on the ropes,

496
00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:50,679
Speaker 1: and Tank chopping down at it. You're allowing Tank, you know,

497
00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:53,119
Speaker 1: this little man with the big time power, to just

498
00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:54,800
Speaker 1: stand in front of you and chop down on you.

499
00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:57,320
Speaker 1: That tree's gonna come down. I didn't love that at all.

500
00:21:57,359 --> 00:21:59,280
Speaker 1: I would rather if if I'm Frank Martin in that spot,

501
00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:01,760
Speaker 1: let me just fight my way out and see what happens,

502
00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:04,160
Speaker 1: rather than essentially spending the last two or three rounds

503
00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:07,200
Speaker 1: in full time survival mode. I think that spoke to

504
00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:10,080
Speaker 1: the debate we had coming in with the inexperience between

505
00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:12,320
Speaker 1: the two of them play out. Ultimately, Luke Itt played out,

506
00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:14,760
Speaker 1: I think in a big way. Even though Frank did

507
00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:17,720
Speaker 1: certain things well to keep himself around in the fight,

508
00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:20,399
Speaker 1: he wasn't able to build upon the single punches that

509
00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:22,240
Speaker 1: he landed. And if you are only going to land

510
00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:24,240
Speaker 1: single punches against Tank and you are going to be

511
00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:26,879
Speaker 1: in retreat mode and allow him to put that pressure

512
00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:28,879
Speaker 1: on you and overwhelm you. Pick's not getting tired. He

513
00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:31,000
Speaker 1: standing up there behind the high guard, throwing one punch

514
00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:34,120
Speaker 1: out of time. Frank walked himself into that spider web

515
00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:35,680
Speaker 1: and eventually it took him out of there.

516
00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:38,840
Speaker 2: There's no doubt about it. I mean, dude, credit to Dravante.

517
00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:42,679
Speaker 2: Though Javonte walks right on top of you early, he

518
00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:44,239
Speaker 2: has to make you know minor adjustments because he get

519
00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:46,120
Speaker 2: hit a little bit more than other times. His strategy

520
00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:48,119
Speaker 2: never changes, dude. This is Jervonte at the beginning of

521
00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:50,960
Speaker 2: all the fights. He keeps high hands, walks in kind

522
00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:53,400
Speaker 2: of feels where you are, gets a sense, and then

523
00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:56,320
Speaker 2: continues to apply pressure where he's standing what feels like

524
00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:59,560
Speaker 2: right on top of you. And yet he's just out

525
00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:01,720
Speaker 2: of the way your punches, just out of the way

526
00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:03,479
Speaker 2: of what you can do. You have to get a

527
00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:05,560
Speaker 2: master boxer to do that. They talked about that all

528
00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:08,280
Speaker 2: last week. In twenty seventeen, when Frank Martin made his

529
00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:11,520
Speaker 2: pro debut, Gervonte Davis was already a world champion. You

530
00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:13,439
Speaker 2: saw the difference in what it means to be a

531
00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:17,080
Speaker 2: lifelong boxer, essentially in Dravante versus a very good athlete

532
00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:19,639
Speaker 2: who got to boxing at roughly aged twenty. Just not

533
00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:23,240
Speaker 2: the same thing at all. And I agree Frank kind

534
00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:26,240
Speaker 2: of when the fight got really difficult, he did not.

535
00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:28,000
Speaker 2: I did not like the game plan at that point.

536
00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:29,959
Speaker 2: But I want to say a couple of things. One,

537
00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:33,159
Speaker 2: Dravante very good about cutting him off so he couldn't

538
00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:35,000
Speaker 2: exit to his left. They forced him to go the

539
00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:37,480
Speaker 2: direction he was bad at and then cornered him and

540
00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:38,200
Speaker 2: you saw the results.

541
00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:40,000
Speaker 1: And the body attack also played into the body.

542
00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:43,680
Speaker 2: Attack played a huge role. And again the improvisational ability

543
00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:46,360
Speaker 2: and the hand speed and the act. Dude, the accuracy

544
00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:49,440
Speaker 2: of Dravante Davis, your margin of error.

545
00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:52,480
Speaker 1: Is so low, whater, so low.

546
00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:55,119
Speaker 2: You have you there's what. Was Frank making a mistake

547
00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:58,199
Speaker 2: pinned to the ropes? Yes, yes, of course he was,

548
00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:03,560
Speaker 2: But the costly of that mistake is infinitely high. When

549
00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:05,960
Speaker 2: you're facing a guy who is a I mean, he

550
00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:08,840
Speaker 2: has a canon for an arm and can find you

551
00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:12,000
Speaker 2: with it in the slightest moment. Forget remember how he

552
00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:16,560
Speaker 2: did it. He pre slips hooks to move over and

553
00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:19,040
Speaker 2: then find a lane for the left hand, and that's

554
00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:20,639
Speaker 2: why he didn't see it. The whole thing was set

555
00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:22,080
Speaker 2: up from the pre slip in the hook and then

556
00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:25,960
Speaker 2: he fires the uppercut to align himself into a position.

557
00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:29,600
Speaker 2: Frank was dealing with somebody. They showed a graphic before

558
00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:33,720
Speaker 2: the fight Championship rounds up to that point, Tank Davis head.

559
00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:37,720
Speaker 2: I think it was eighty something like that. No, that's

560
00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:41,600
Speaker 2: not quite right. Maybe it was eight, or he would

561
00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:43,600
Speaker 2: have eighty Brown He might be right then, So it

562
00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:46,080
Speaker 2: was eighty championship rowns for Frank it was zero. It

563
00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:48,160
Speaker 2: was zero. That told me a lot.

564
00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:51,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, Tank has won titles in three different divisions. He's

565
00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:52,280
Speaker 1: been around for a long time.

566
00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:53,719
Speaker 2: He's never going to unified champion though.

567
00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:56,600
Speaker 1: That's true. That's true. So look, he's got the most

568
00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:59,960
Speaker 1: talent for the disparity in my opinion of where his

569
00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:02,520
Speaker 1: where his Universal pund for pound ranking was coming in. Luke,

570
00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:04,920
Speaker 1: I think I had Tank at number nine and I've

571
00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:07,160
Speaker 1: had him there for you know a little bit. Obviously,

572
00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:08,919
Speaker 1: he does get criticized by people who don't think he

573
00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:12,680
Speaker 1: chases the biggest, toughest challenges, even the dominance over Frank Martin.

574
00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:15,080
Speaker 1: I don't discount Frank Martin coming in, right. He came

575
00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:17,600
Speaker 1: in with a lot of danger, unbeaten fighter, a great trainer,

576
00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:20,200
Speaker 1: all of that. But if we're not going to readjust

577
00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:23,000
Speaker 1: our pound for pound after this, but readjust our four

578
00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:25,840
Speaker 1: slash five princes ranking, meaning look, we talked about the

579
00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:28,480
Speaker 1: four princes, that new class that came in, Kur Stevenson,

580
00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:32,040
Speaker 1: Devin Haney, Ryan Garcia, and Tank Davis. I add in Chi,

581
00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:35,120
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, the other one was Tao Femo. I add

582
00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:36,879
Speaker 1: in Chaqur in that to make it five, meaning this

583
00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:39,199
Speaker 1: group of fighters in and around one thirty five and

584
00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:42,920
Speaker 1: one as we stand right now after this performance, how

585
00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:45,040
Speaker 1: do you order that five? Based on what we saw

586
00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:45,879
Speaker 1: off Tanka Saturday night.

587
00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:47,639
Speaker 2: So I'd go, let me see if I got them

588
00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:51,080
Speaker 2: all right? There's Tank would be number one, and so Hels'

589
00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:53,720
Speaker 2: is there, Shakur's there, Haini's there, Tails there? Who's the

590
00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:57,400
Speaker 2: last one? H Ryan, Ryan Garcia? Yeah, So I put

591
00:25:57,440 --> 00:26:00,560
Speaker 2: Tank up there. I'd probably put Shakur to Ryan, maybe

592
00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:05,399
Speaker 2: maybe Tao or Ryan three and three or four you

593
00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:09,280
Speaker 2: can three. I put Haney last, which.

594
00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:11,320
Speaker 1: Is crazy because before that Ryan fight you could argue

595
00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:12,639
Speaker 1: that that Haney could have been number one.

596
00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:17,080
Speaker 2: And also Floyd put out sparring footage from quite some

597
00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:19,800
Speaker 2: time ago, that showed Hanney getting the better of Tank

598
00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:21,720
Speaker 2: in practice. I don't think it works that way in

599
00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:22,720
Speaker 2: a fight at all. I don't.

600
00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:25,200
Speaker 1: I mean, those are doghouse rules where they're fighting sort

601
00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:27,639
Speaker 1: of an unlimited stretch arounds Floyd's the referee.

602
00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:29,760
Speaker 2: People are lying that and they're switching out to do you.

603
00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:32,119
Speaker 1: See that one sequence where Tank was talking trash in

604
00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:33,520
Speaker 1: the corner of Haney and Haney came up and give

605
00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:34,639
Speaker 1: him that blind punch. He didn't he come.

606
00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:36,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, he didn't fall though. That was the best part

607
00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:37,800
Speaker 2: about it. That's great, So I think I think so

608
00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:40,520
Speaker 2: that's my point. Tank to me is number one among those.

609
00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:42,880
Speaker 2: Now if he got a fight with Shakurd, that could change,

610
00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:45,240
Speaker 2: but as it stands today, I think he's number one.

611
00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:47,320
Speaker 2: The only reason I don't rank him super highly on

612
00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:49,199
Speaker 2: the pound for pound list BC is because he's not

613
00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:52,480
Speaker 2: fighting other guys approximately close to it. I feel like

614
00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:55,040
Speaker 2: he is taking fights that are difficult and worthwhile and

615
00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:57,960
Speaker 2: showing his class, but he is definitely not taking the

616
00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:01,040
Speaker 2: most difficult fights that he could. That to me should

617
00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:03,400
Speaker 2: preclude him from being included in the pound for pound.

618
00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:03,520
Speaker 3: Well.

619
00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:06,240
Speaker 1: The good news is the rumors heading into this week

620
00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:08,800
Speaker 1: from Bob Aram was that of Tank one. He would

621
00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:11,680
Speaker 1: love Bob Aram of Tompreik to make a unification fight

622
00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:15,520
Speaker 1: in November against Vasili Lomachenko. We know Shakur Stevenson is

623
00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:18,399
Speaker 1: there with the WBC title at one thirty five, and

624
00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:21,600
Speaker 1: I you know, recently, Luke, we have seen Tank, Calvin Ford,

625
00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:23,639
Speaker 1: Leonard Eller, we talk about that. You know this is

626
00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:26,240
Speaker 1: a fight they would do. And then there's Ryan Garcia

627
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:28,520
Speaker 1: who ran up to the apron after the fight was

628
00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:30,680
Speaker 1: wearing a T shirt that said Tank's number one fan

629
00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:33,399
Speaker 1: and on the back it said rematch me, bitch and

630
00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:35,120
Speaker 1: we'll see. And have you seen this shit later, Luke,

631
00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:37,600
Speaker 1: when they embraced and sort of had like a fun

632
00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:41,560
Speaker 1: laughing embrace after, I want to get the answer of

633
00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:43,720
Speaker 1: out of those three names, and I'll add in the

634
00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:46,800
Speaker 1: fourth one, piple isak Cruz right who knocked out Roly?

635
00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:49,760
Speaker 1: Who is in this mix of those four potential opponents

636
00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:51,960
Speaker 1: for Tank moving forward with Tank sang publicly after the fight,

637
00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:53,800
Speaker 1: I only want big fights from here out. I only

638
00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:55,719
Speaker 1: want title fights be against big names from here on out.

639
00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:57,359
Speaker 1: So I think Tank is now at a point where

640
00:27:58,000 --> 00:27:59,480
Speaker 1: maybe there was a scare being in jail. I mean

641
00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:01,560
Speaker 1: he talked about the maturity. He talked about like waking

642
00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:03,320
Speaker 1: up to like I don't want to be here. You know,

643
00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:04,879
Speaker 1: this is where my life is heading. I don't want

644
00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:06,760
Speaker 1: to be here. Maybe that allowed him also to look

645
00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:08,240
Speaker 1: at where he's at the prime, at the peak of

646
00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:10,240
Speaker 1: his prime, here at age twenty nine, Now is the

647
00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:12,080
Speaker 1: time to go after the names that will make you

648
00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:15,719
Speaker 1: a first bout Hall of Famer. So out of Shakour Loma,

649
00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:20,120
Speaker 1: Ryan Garcia rematch or Pitbull cruise, give me the fight

650
00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:22,840
Speaker 1: you would most love next, and the fight you think

651
00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:24,640
Speaker 1: is most likely next for Tank.

652
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:29,920
Speaker 2: I think, good chance we get Loma. I think it's

653
00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:31,760
Speaker 2: probably going to be that which.

654
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:34,840
Speaker 1: Gives a lot of critical respect the whole. No matter

655
00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:35,760
Speaker 1: what they will.

656
00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:38,959
Speaker 2: So it's not the fight it should it happen, is

657
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:42,400
Speaker 2: not happening on time, but it's also not happening too late.

658
00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:44,720
Speaker 2: Sure there's still value there. So I like that fight.

659
00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:46,400
Speaker 2: I think they'll make it. And again, if Tank wins,

660
00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:49,120
Speaker 2: it will be the first time he becomes a unified champion, and.

661
00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:50,680
Speaker 1: We will never have se We have never seen Tanking

662
00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:51,760
Speaker 1: in somebody whom box like that.

663
00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:53,880
Speaker 2: That's right, that's right, this will be his toughest challenge

664
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Speaker 2: by a quite considerable margin. I think that the one

665
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Speaker 2: I would like to see the most is definitely the

666
00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:02,200
Speaker 2: shaquer Stevenson.

667
00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:04,200
Speaker 1: Was speaking my language here, because listen.

668
00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:06,600
Speaker 2: Everyone looks at a Tank and they go, oh, he

669
00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:08,320
Speaker 2: hasn't fought the best. But it's like, you look at

670
00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:11,600
Speaker 2: what the performance was that Shaquor turned in in his

671
00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:14,280
Speaker 2: last contest, and it was I mean, god awful doesn't

672
00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:17,840
Speaker 2: even begin to describe it. So he has a lot

673
00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:19,720
Speaker 2: of questions to answer as well, not so much about

674
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:21,960
Speaker 2: his ability, but like, really, what are you going to

675
00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:23,880
Speaker 2: do in this sport? Who are you really going to beat?

676
00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:25,240
Speaker 2: Who are you going to put it on? What are

677
00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:26,840
Speaker 2: your signature wins? And how did you get them? And

678
00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:29,200
Speaker 2: he needs Tank a lot more than Tank needs him.

679
00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:31,720
Speaker 2: But I still feel like all of us would benefit

680
00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:34,479
Speaker 2: the most by that kind of pairing. Do you are

681
00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:35,080
Speaker 2: you somewhere else?

682
00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:35,880
Speaker 1: I'm right with you on there.

683
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:39,040
Speaker 2: I think, oh, Dan Rafiel, his choice is Tank versus

684
00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:41,480
Speaker 2: Taylo fi Malpez. That's the one he wants.

685
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:43,240
Speaker 1: I mean, we can add that in there just as well.

686
00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:45,440
Speaker 1: I don't think that's as likely, although I think Luke

687
00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:47,920
Speaker 1: with the combination of the money from Saudi Arabia pushing

688
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:50,040
Speaker 1: people to make their biggest fights possible. Everything I just

689
00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:51,760
Speaker 1: said about Tank and where he's at in his career,

690
00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:53,920
Speaker 1: I do think we see at least two or three

691
00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:56,560
Speaker 1: of these options moving forward. I do. I would love

692
00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:59,960
Speaker 1: sha curtin X. I think Loma's most likely. I think

693
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:03,680
Speaker 1: people are over still underrating Shakur because his last fight

694
00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:06,560
Speaker 1: was boring, even though he absolutely dominated Del Santos and

695
00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:09,480
Speaker 1: held him to a CompuBox record of minimum punches landed.

696
00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:11,600
Speaker 1: I'm not saying he did great for his career that

697
00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:13,480
Speaker 1: night and that big close up. No he didn't, Luke,

698
00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:15,440
Speaker 1: But I'm saying I think that's going to play into

699
00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:18,160
Speaker 1: people just going, well, Tank's got the power, He's inevitably

700
00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:19,520
Speaker 1: going to knock this guy out. You see when they

701
00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:21,120
Speaker 1: asked Tank about that after the fight, what would it

702
00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:22,640
Speaker 1: look like if you fought Shaqur? He's like, you guys

703
00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:27,800
Speaker 1: already know. I think Chakor is a tougher challenge in Loma.

704
00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:29,520
Speaker 2: Yeah. I agree with that.

705
00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:32,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree with that. You know that might be can.

706
00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:36,800
Speaker 2: Can Loma really take tanks punches? I have some concern

707
00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:38,160
Speaker 2: I do that I do Teo.

708
00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:40,040
Speaker 1: Fema would be a really tough matchup to the size

709
00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:41,240
Speaker 1: and the explosion.

710
00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:43,080
Speaker 2: And the athleticism. That's exactly right, because he can move

711
00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:44,840
Speaker 2: and get in and out of what places that other

712
00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:46,040
Speaker 2: guys just can't. That's right.

713
00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:47,920
Speaker 1: But no one's going to question tanks popularity if he

714
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:50,280
Speaker 1: runs through three or four of these names we're talking about,

715
00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:52,520
Speaker 1: if he can fight the other four or five princes

716
00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:54,880
Speaker 1: and come out as the leader there, he's going to

717
00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:56,600
Speaker 1: fulfill his promise and completely.

718
00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:58,000
Speaker 2: But to close the top, by the way, I want

719
00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:01,920
Speaker 2: to say one thing. RV Doc was the referee on Saturday. Yes,

720
00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:04,920
Speaker 2: Harvey Doc was also the referee in Hane and Garcia.

721
00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:07,240
Speaker 2: He did not do a great job at Haney Garcia.

722
00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:10,840
Speaker 2: You didn't even notice him on Saturday. He is so

723
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:14,600
Speaker 2: much better than I'm not defending that performance against Hani

724
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:17,480
Speaker 2: and Garcia. It was terrible, but his general level of

725
00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:18,720
Speaker 2: ability it's pretty high.

726
00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:20,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's one of the best referees and has been

727
00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:23,200
Speaker 1: consistently across the board. I mentioned Ryan Garcia and there's

728
00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:24,560
Speaker 1: nowhere else in the show really to put this, so

729
00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:25,520
Speaker 1: I want to put it right here.

730
00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:26,720
Speaker 2: Dude, what the fuck is wrong with that?

731
00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:29,400
Speaker 1: At the point now where most people, like like our

732
00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:32,560
Speaker 1: colleagues at CBS Sports, Brent Brookhouse, Brandon Wise, whenever I

733
00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:35,600
Speaker 1: share Ryan garcia tweets and the slack, they're just basically like,

734
00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:38,479
Speaker 1: stop it, We're done with this guy. I'm done. I

735
00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:43,640
Speaker 1: largely agree with that, except I believe Ryan's constant, ridiculous

736
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:48,200
Speaker 1: Twitter routine has really gone too far. In the last week,

737
00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:51,520
Speaker 1: so luke to recap. People were commenting, do you remember

738
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:55,680
Speaker 1: that the study came out about the but the substance

739
00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:58,680
Speaker 1: that that Ryan take ahead of the Haiti fight? They

740
00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:00,720
Speaker 1: found out that there was no ostrat in that at

741
00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:03,040
Speaker 1: all the supplements that he was taking there.

742
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, so the company that he claimed had contaminated supplements,

743
00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:10,560
Speaker 2: they put out a press release being like, we tested

744
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:13,480
Speaker 2: everything from the batch from which he purchased it, and

745
00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:15,480
Speaker 2: nothing came up with Austrien in it. They were actually

746
00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:16,080
Speaker 2: pretty pisty.

747
00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:17,720
Speaker 1: That led to a lot of people because Ryan is

748
00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:20,160
Speaker 1: constantly tweeting, constantly trying to offend people. That led to

749
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:22,200
Speaker 1: some profighters coming out and commenting on it. One of

750
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:25,200
Speaker 1: those was Clarissa Shields, which led Ryan to call her

751
00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:27,880
Speaker 1: quote a lesbo and then say, go make me a

752
00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:28,800
Speaker 1: sandwich in the kitchen.

753
00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:30,600
Speaker 2: Isn't he a man of Christ? This guy?

754
00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:34,360
Speaker 1: And then Luke on top of many other ridiculousness. Then

755
00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:37,680
Speaker 1: Caleb Plant super Middleweight made a comment about it, and

756
00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:42,280
Speaker 1: that led Saturday to Ryan Boy making hours worth of

757
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:45,360
Speaker 1: ridiculous tweets about Caleb's wife, Jordan Plant, who of course

758
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:48,320
Speaker 1: is an announcer on PBC. That led Luke to just

759
00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:51,040
Speaker 1: out of bound sexual comments up and down. It led

760
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:53,000
Speaker 1: to him challenging Caleb Plant and saying, look, come to

761
00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:54,800
Speaker 1: the arena on Saturday and say it to my face.

762
00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:57,360
Speaker 1: Show that same energy we look. We'll see the video

763
00:32:57,400 --> 00:32:59,240
Speaker 1: later on. Have you seen this shit? Where Caleb did

764
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:02,280
Speaker 1: bring that same energy and through a full beer bottle

765
00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:04,720
Speaker 1: that Ryan led to some pushing and shoving. But Luke,

766
00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:06,880
Speaker 1: Caleb Plant has four divisions bigger than Ryan, So I

767
00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:08,480
Speaker 1: don't expect we'll see a fight between the two of

768
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:10,800
Speaker 1: them and the ring. I do expect we'll see a

769
00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:12,880
Speaker 1: fight between the two of them in person one of

770
00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:15,280
Speaker 1: these days, because Kayla Plant love him or hate him,

771
00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:16,880
Speaker 1: and I love him. I love what he stands for

772
00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:18,440
Speaker 1: and who he's about in the heart that he brings.

773
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:20,960
Speaker 1: He's not gonna let this go quietly in the night, Luke,

774
00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:24,240
Speaker 1: and neither should he to some degree. I know Ryan's

775
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:26,640
Speaker 1: mother was diagnosed with cancer, and you know, like everyone else,

776
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:28,520
Speaker 1: I full respect for everything going on in the family

777
00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:30,600
Speaker 1: and in his own mental health history I have full

778
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:33,880
Speaker 1: respect for too, But Luke, he is beyond out of

779
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:36,600
Speaker 1: bounds lately. Is this like the only thing I can

780
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:37,960
Speaker 1: frame it is this is a death wish? Like, what

781
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:39,600
Speaker 1: the hell is going on right now with.

782
00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:42,080
Speaker 2: Ryan Garcia doesn't appear to have a ton of impulse control?

783
00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:43,480
Speaker 2: I think, I mean, I think the guy's got real

784
00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:47,560
Speaker 2: mental problems. Folks want to disregard that because they want

785
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:49,600
Speaker 2: to make like this is the guy standing between us

786
00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:52,280
Speaker 2: and the people at Bohemian Growth. Okay, for all of

787
00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:54,400
Speaker 2: those who are not children, we can recognize that's a

788
00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:57,520
Speaker 2: ridiculous thing to think or care about. And in general,

789
00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:01,479
Speaker 2: he's got clear mental problems. They've been We've been noticing

790
00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:03,120
Speaker 2: them for quite some time. They were amped up with

791
00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:05,400
Speaker 2: the fight week against Devin Haney. We thought it was

792
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:07,560
Speaker 2: going to derail him. It certainly did not. But of

793
00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:10,320
Speaker 2: course there's now mitigating circumstances around weight and potential performance

794
00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:13,720
Speaker 2: dancing drugs now involved and then you get these acts.

795
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:19,040
Speaker 2: This is somebody who who is is. We live in

796
00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:22,560
Speaker 2: a world where we have some restraint about what we do.

797
00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:26,799
Speaker 2: He is living in an unrestrained world. The world will

798
00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:29,720
Speaker 2: check that one way or the other. I'm not wishing

799
00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:31,279
Speaker 2: it upon him in the sense that I hope something

800
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:32,600
Speaker 2: bad happens to him. I thought, if I have to

801
00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:35,120
Speaker 2: hope the opposite, hope you can get help and then

802
00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:37,640
Speaker 2: heel in a way that's good for everybody. But if

803
00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:40,560
Speaker 2: he doesn't, the world will come crashing down on him.

804
00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:42,719
Speaker 2: Sooner or later. He's setting himself up.

805
00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:45,480
Speaker 1: It where somebody's going to like knock him out cold

806
00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:47,239
Speaker 1: with a sucker punch when he doesn't see it coming

807
00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:49,640
Speaker 1: in public, and he's going to fully deserve it. And

808
00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:51,799
Speaker 1: I don't, you know, want to see that for him.

809
00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:54,680
Speaker 1: But he's getting to the point where it's it's so

810
00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:57,560
Speaker 1: far beyond it's I mean, it's like you're you're asking

811
00:34:57,600 --> 00:34:59,240
Speaker 1: for the worst thing to happen to you. You're literally

812
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:00,200
Speaker 1: asking for it.

813
00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:03,319
Speaker 2: He is asking for it. Yes, I mean I don't

814
00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:05,520
Speaker 2: use that lightly, but when you go out of your

815
00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:11,880
Speaker 2: way to overtly sexualize somebody's wife on social media and

816
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:14,440
Speaker 2: in other places. I mean, what is it you expect

817
00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:17,319
Speaker 2: to happen as a consequence of that them to turn

818
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:21,440
Speaker 2: the other cheek? Okay, I don't think that's gonna happen.

819
00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:26,520
Speaker 2: Good good luck, Yeah, good luck. You're gonna need it anyway,

820
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:26,920
Speaker 2: There you go.

821
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:27,760
Speaker 1: Let's continue.

822
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:30,279
Speaker 2: Look, all right, topic number two here BC. As we

823
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:33,440
Speaker 2: continue here on the show, let's talk if we can

824
00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:35,560
Speaker 2: a little bit, how about about that co main event,

825
00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:37,680
Speaker 2: right and we'll get to some UFC right after this.

826
00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:39,200
Speaker 2: This is the last bit of boxing for the fans.

827
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:42,880
Speaker 2: Don't worry, all right, So David Benavidez basically routes former

828
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:47,840
Speaker 2: champion Alexander Vudzig. Okay, he does so via unanimous decision

829
00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:50,319
Speaker 2: in his one hundred and seventy five pound debut. However, BC,

830
00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:55,040
Speaker 2: there were some questions coming out of this performance. He

831
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:59,080
Speaker 2: had a bunch of injuries that he listed afterwards. A

832
00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:01,080
Speaker 2: cut over his eye in late May, he had a

833
00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:02,760
Speaker 2: torn ligament in his right hand. He had a busted

834
00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:04,600
Speaker 2: up left hand, so both of his hands were apparently

835
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:09,200
Speaker 2: fucked up. What explains this result? People who are criticizing

836
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:12,560
Speaker 2: him are wrong and not appreciating what he actually achieved,

837
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:16,600
Speaker 2: or he was way too hyped, and even though he

838
00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:18,560
Speaker 2: was going up and not fighting some kind of scrub,

839
00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:21,520
Speaker 2: this was a comeback down to earth moment, a real

840
00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:23,960
Speaker 2: check of his actual ability. What's the story.

841
00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:26,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm a little bit surprised at how aggressive people

842
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:29,000
Speaker 1: are going. This is the guy that Canelo is supposed

843
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:31,040
Speaker 1: to be afraid of. This is the guy first of all.

844
00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:34,120
Speaker 1: Alexander Vosdik is a former world champion who knocked out

845
00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:36,480
Speaker 1: Division king A Donna Stevenson and sent him into retirement

846
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:38,560
Speaker 1: before having the same thing happened to him against Better beav.

847
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:42,920
Speaker 1: He came in in sick shape muscularly and conditioning wise

848
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:46,479
Speaker 1: at age thirty seven, and Luke on my score card,

849
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:49,200
Speaker 1: Vodzick lost to all of the first ten rounds and

850
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:53,040
Speaker 1: was absolutely dominated and routed by Benevitez that we find

851
00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:56,000
Speaker 1: out had legitimate setbacks in both hands and a cut,

852
00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:57,960
Speaker 1: but wanted to push through, didn't want to pull out

853
00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:01,279
Speaker 1: of the fight, wanted the event to go forward. I

854
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:03,279
Speaker 1: think it's because he didn't score the knockout. And yeah,

855
00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:05,759
Speaker 1: you and I predicted basically like a fifth or sixth

856
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:07,880
Speaker 1: round stoppage. We expected him to kind of go in

857
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:09,439
Speaker 1: there and finish him and then we'd be talking about

858
00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:12,200
Speaker 1: him against the winner of Better Bev and Bevall. I

859
00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:14,360
Speaker 1: think you have to take into account the potential, all

860
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:16,319
Speaker 1: those physical injuries and how they held him back, and

861
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:18,799
Speaker 1: I think people need to take a slow roll away

862
00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:20,960
Speaker 1: in the other direction and realize he just moved up

863
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:24,200
Speaker 1: and weighed against a world class guy and absolutely dominated him.

864
00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:26,359
Speaker 1: And I know after the fight, Benavitez is still keeping

865
00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:28,520
Speaker 1: open the option of staying at one sixty eight. He

866
00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:30,120
Speaker 1: said he wants to fight in both divisions. He said

867
00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:32,239
Speaker 1: he could still make sixty eight easy. But I don't

868
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:34,160
Speaker 1: know how you watched that fight in totality. Maybe you

869
00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:36,200
Speaker 1: were expecting a big knockout, and so were we. But

870
00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:37,640
Speaker 1: I was in the arena for that, and look, he

871
00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:42,040
Speaker 1: absolutely dominated. In fact, not only did he walk Bodzig

872
00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:44,879
Speaker 1: down at some point almost like tanked in the main

873
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:47,640
Speaker 1: event post pillared a Post just back and forth, cornering

874
00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:49,720
Speaker 1: him and lighting him up. I saw him new wrinkles

875
00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:51,319
Speaker 1: in his game. I almost saw some of the work

876
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:53,160
Speaker 1: that we saw when we had Steven Jackson on our

877
00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:55,279
Speaker 1: show Friday. Throw into the fight Town's piece that you

878
00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:57,120
Speaker 1: can catch on all the smoke fighting where he's in

879
00:37:57,120 --> 00:37:58,759
Speaker 1: there with Roy Jones. I saw a little bit of

880
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:01,640
Speaker 1: some new wrinkles in there, some like almost Tyson esque

881
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:04,520
Speaker 1: bobbing and weaving to get inside. I liked a lot

882
00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:07,120
Speaker 1: of what I saw. Now, one of the big criticisms

883
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:09,200
Speaker 1: was he slowed down in the second half of that fight.

884
00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:11,400
Speaker 1: I did notice that. I did notice that you assumed

885
00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:13,960
Speaker 1: him going up in weight, not having as taxing of

886
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:16,080
Speaker 1: a weight cut, that his stamina would be even better.

887
00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:18,840
Speaker 1: And I think he repaired his stamina last year completely

888
00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:21,480
Speaker 1: by the way the twelve hard rounds against Plant, what

889
00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:24,120
Speaker 1: he did against Andreid, like, I had no concerns about that.

890
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:26,600
Speaker 1: But even with his gas tank not holding up for

891
00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:29,000
Speaker 1: the full twelve and even with him backing up to

892
00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:30,560
Speaker 1: the ropes, almost doing a little bit of a rope

893
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:32,920
Speaker 1: adope in the final rounds, he was never in trouble.

894
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:35,239
Speaker 1: He was never in doubt. Here does he come out

895
00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:37,200
Speaker 1: of here with this big knockout and oh my god,

896
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:39,480
Speaker 1: let's put him in there with better bev. No, I'm

897
00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:42,080
Speaker 1: not saying that right now, but I'm saying what he

898
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:44,239
Speaker 1: said after the fight is I want to campaign over

899
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:46,120
Speaker 1: two divisions. Let's see what I can get let's see

900
00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:48,360
Speaker 1: the biggest fights available. I think all he did was

901
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:49,840
Speaker 1: show us how good he really is and that he

902
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:52,239
Speaker 1: deserves his pound for pound ranking at the moment. Because

903
00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:54,439
Speaker 1: he didn't have the full weaponry, but yet he still

904
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:57,400
Speaker 1: was absolutely dominant in crushing this opponent for most of

905
00:38:57,440 --> 00:38:58,239
Speaker 1: the majority of that fight.

906
00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:01,640
Speaker 2: I'm mostly with you. Let me ask you a question,

907
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:06,920
Speaker 2: very basic one. Okay, maybe this fight tells you about

908
00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:09,800
Speaker 2: with better Beev or Bivoll would be much more competitive

909
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:11,400
Speaker 2: than you initially thought. I mean, it would still be

910
00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:14,040
Speaker 2: very difficult, but perhaps you now I think even more so.

911
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:17,279
Speaker 2: Who is the other light heavyweight aside from the three

912
00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:21,200
Speaker 2: the three bs Bivoll, Benavidez, and Better beav Who is

913
00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:24,200
Speaker 2: the other light heavyweight that you think could do better

914
00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:28,960
Speaker 2: than Benavitez against those two guys? Right, this guy had

915
00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:33,160
Speaker 2: one fucking bout and he's already the third best guy

916
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:34,080
Speaker 2: in that weight class.

917
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:35,840
Speaker 1: He's finding a guyho was six foot.

918
00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:38,279
Speaker 2: Three in jacked, Yes, you know, who is twenty seven

919
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:41,200
Speaker 2: years of age, probably not even necessarily in his full

920
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:44,000
Speaker 2: on prime, yet physical prime he might be, but in

921
00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:46,319
Speaker 2: terms of boxing IQ and putting it all together, he's

922
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:48,680
Speaker 2: not even there. Yet, and he's already the third best

923
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:52,440
Speaker 2: guy in this weight class. Of course, the next two

924
00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:57,080
Speaker 2: levels are significantly greater jumps in difficulty than what is

925
00:39:57,080 --> 00:39:59,200
Speaker 2: behind him in the pack. I just want to set

926
00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:01,960
Speaker 2: the context to you for people slandering Dave at Benavitez.

927
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:04,759
Speaker 2: And again there is some criticism to be had here.

928
00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:07,840
Speaker 2: He did not shine relative to even our own expectations.

929
00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:10,560
Speaker 2: We have to acknowledge the asymmetry there a little bit.

930
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:13,480
Speaker 2: But as a broader context, it's the same thing with Tank. Oh,

931
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:16,160
Speaker 2: tanks not pound for pound. Fine, even if Tank isn't

932
00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:19,720
Speaker 2: pound for pound, he's number one in that weight class easily.

933
00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:21,640
Speaker 1: Well, first of all, Tank is pound for pound. You

934
00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:23,160
Speaker 1: can't look at that skill and see the names he

935
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:25,479
Speaker 1: be Again, it's not as high in names of other people.

936
00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:27,560
Speaker 2: I have trouble putting him into I have trouble putting

937
00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:29,879
Speaker 2: him in the top ten, but I recognize skill level

938
00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:32,560
Speaker 2: he's on par with those guys. It's more measurement of accomplishment,

939
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:37,000
Speaker 2: which is impacted by the anyway. Okay, but for Benavitez,

940
00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:41,120
Speaker 2: I'm with you. Did he blow us away? No, he

941
00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:42,960
Speaker 2: did not blow us away, And we had relative to

942
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:45,480
Speaker 2: expectations I guess if you wanted to call it a

943
00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:47,759
Speaker 2: let down, there is something to be said for that.

944
00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:50,560
Speaker 2: But one more time, the broader context is he's at

945
00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:52,800
Speaker 2: worst three in this weight class, behind better beven Bival

946
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:55,400
Speaker 2: and number two. The point you raised, I thought was

947
00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:59,680
Speaker 2: pretty important. There were new wrinkles to Benavidez's game here.

948
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:02,360
Speaker 2: He did dial back some of the offense as it

949
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:04,960
Speaker 2: went down the stretch. I think he recognized Vosdick was

950
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:06,720
Speaker 2: a little bit harder to put away than he imagined.

951
00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:09,600
Speaker 2: His hands probably were really messed up. He showed up.

952
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:11,600
Speaker 2: There was a they released image of the of the

953
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:13,200
Speaker 2: cut that he had in late May. It was bad.

954
00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:14,960
Speaker 2: He had to get like seven or eight stitches on

955
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:16,279
Speaker 2: that thing. It did not look good. He went and

956
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:20,279
Speaker 2: fault with that. Anyway, I'm inclined to believe him. And

957
00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:22,279
Speaker 2: the point I wanted to make is what you saw

958
00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:23,840
Speaker 2: was a guy who used to be kind of square

959
00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:27,120
Speaker 2: in a little bit off balance this time, still staying

960
00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:34,080
Speaker 2: square at times, but switching stances, shoulder rolling, weaving underneath

961
00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:39,120
Speaker 2: all kinds of new defensive wrinkles that limited virtually anything

962
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:41,840
Speaker 2: Vozdick could do. Let me just ask you what was

963
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:44,680
Speaker 2: Vozdik's best single shot that you remember from this.

964
00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:46,920
Speaker 1: Fight, some pitter petter jabs, because that was all he

965
00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:48,160
Speaker 1: was able to land, and he had.

966
00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:50,400
Speaker 2: To keep everything linear in front of him, because if

967
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:52,600
Speaker 2: you threw a big hook, Benavidez is obviously going to

968
00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:54,759
Speaker 2: roll under it and then tear you to pieces. So

969
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:57,959
Speaker 2: the guy was already fighting in a constrained way where

970
00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:00,600
Speaker 2: he could just kind of keep Benavidez in front of him.

971
00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:02,759
Speaker 2: So I guess the point I would like to make

972
00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:06,319
Speaker 2: here is it is fine to say as a fan, hey,

973
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:08,520
Speaker 2: that wasn't the performance I was expecting. It's fine as

974
00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:11,000
Speaker 2: a pundit to say there's room for improvement, or to

975
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:14,120
Speaker 2: even wonder how much injury contributed to this. You can

976
00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:16,279
Speaker 2: also still say I think better even Bill Ball would

977
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:20,440
Speaker 2: beat him. Fine, fine, it was a good performance, not

978
00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:22,960
Speaker 2: a great one, but a very good one, a very

979
00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:26,400
Speaker 2: good one, and he proved already he is a force

980
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:29,040
Speaker 2: to be reckoned with at one hundred and seventy five pounds,

981
00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:30,440
Speaker 2: and I think it's only going to get more so

982
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:31,399
Speaker 2: from here on out.

983
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:33,480
Speaker 1: I agree, And I want to say this Canelo had

984
00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:34,200
Speaker 1: a hand injury.

985
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:34,759
Speaker 2: Remember that.

986
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:36,439
Speaker 1: I remember we thought he looked old, and the third

987
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:39,080
Speaker 1: Glove can fight which wasn't overly exciting against John Ryder

988
00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:41,080
Speaker 1: in the Homecoming, even though he dominated, he couldn't put

989
00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:44,880
Speaker 1: right away. I think naturally, given that Canelo had so

990
00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:46,920
Speaker 1: many fights in turn pro at fifteen, we started to say, look,

991
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:49,840
Speaker 1: is he's slowing down, Luke, I think, and we've argued

992
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:52,359
Speaker 1: about where Canelo really is right now pound for pound,

993
00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:54,600
Speaker 1: you and I and I think maybe I was overrating

994
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:56,359
Speaker 1: to some degree. But when he came back and did

995
00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:58,759
Speaker 1: what he did against Jamel Charlow and didn't leave any

996
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:02,640
Speaker 1: openings for to do anything, and then came back against Mongia,

997
00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:05,279
Speaker 1: which I thought was a dynamic performance. I think you

998
00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:07,719
Speaker 1: accused him of letting his countryman off the hook, and

999
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 1: maybe he could have gone in there and stopped carried him.

1000
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:12,520
Speaker 1: But the point is when he was healthy, when he

1001
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:15,040
Speaker 1: had all his weapons, we're seeing who Canelo really is.

1002
00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:18,239
Speaker 1: Again Benavitez was compromised, still went through with the fight.

1003
00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:20,600
Speaker 1: You have to add that into the equation and figure

1004
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:23,080
Speaker 1: it out. So, Luke, with what we know, now here's

1005
00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:26,520
Speaker 1: the key question, though, does this performance make Canelo Alfarez

1006
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:28,759
Speaker 1: want to fight him more? Now? Does this did this

1007
00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:32,240
Speaker 1: humanize Benavidez to a certain degree because I saw nothing

1008
00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:34,719
Speaker 1: on my timeline, but Canelo fans coming out of the

1009
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:38,200
Speaker 1: woodwork going, yeah, man, that guy, that guy's nothing. Canelo

1010
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:38,920
Speaker 1: still beats him.

1011
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:42,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would say that. I have heard plenty of

1012
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:46,640
Speaker 2: boxing experts, including Chris Aljuri and some other folks, say

1013
00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:50,760
Speaker 2: things like, listen, David, Bnavidez would probably win, but Canelo

1014
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:53,600
Speaker 2: would make that a really difficult fight. Like the idea

1015
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:56,680
Speaker 2: that Benavidez would walk over him the way he did Android,

1016
00:43:57,120 --> 00:43:59,840
Speaker 2: or the way he basically roughed up Caleb plant and

1017
00:43:59,840 --> 00:44:02,040
Speaker 2: the second half of that bout. He wouldn't do that

1018
00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:04,160
Speaker 2: against Big Red. He would actually be nip and tuck

1019
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:06,719
Speaker 2: the whole way. So to me, I actually feel like

1020
00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:10,040
Speaker 2: what this result shows is that analysis is correct. I

1021
00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:13,080
Speaker 2: would still favor Benavidez to win, but I do think

1022
00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:15,520
Speaker 2: Big Red would give him a good run for his

1023
00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:17,960
Speaker 2: money in the end. I really do believe that, especially

1024
00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:20,279
Speaker 2: given all of his experience and whatnot. But you know, look,

1025
00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:22,879
Speaker 2: Canelo has also faded down the stretch. Canelo has also

1026
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:25,759
Speaker 2: shown that the exact same kind of dominant punching that

1027
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:28,040
Speaker 2: he wanted his chin stow Elite, by the way, hasn't

1028
00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:31,319
Speaker 2: hasn't faded at all. So if for some people this

1029
00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:34,200
Speaker 2: was David Benavidez coming back to Earth, I think that's okay.

1030
00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:37,200
Speaker 2: I'm still picking him to win against Canelo, and I

1031
00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:39,759
Speaker 2: still think he gives better be even bivell tough ass

1032
00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:41,200
Speaker 2: fights and maybe in a couple of years is the

1033
00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:42,640
Speaker 2: dominant force at one seventy five.

1034
00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:44,319
Speaker 1: I now think we see the Canalo fight.

1035
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:45,640
Speaker 2: I don't think we see it.

1036
00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:46,440
Speaker 1: I think we do.

1037
00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:48,160
Speaker 2: I don't think he wants to know if he wants

1038
00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:49,160
Speaker 2: Burlanga and that's it.

1039
00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:52,040
Speaker 1: I think this goes down as maybe the reason why

1040
00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:54,400
Speaker 1: Canello watches that and goes oh, I see some things.

1041
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:56,560
Speaker 1: I see some things, Luke. Not only do I that

1042
00:44:56,640 --> 00:44:58,319
Speaker 1: we need to see this fight. I want to see

1043
00:44:58,320 --> 00:44:59,839
Speaker 1: it more after this performance, you know where I want

1044
00:44:59,840 --> 00:45:02,600
Speaker 1: it be? The first combat sports event at the Allegied

1045
00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:04,520
Speaker 1: Stadium in Las Vegas. I think this is the right one.

1046
00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:05,040
Speaker 2: You could do it.

1047
00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:05,840
Speaker 1: I think that's the right now.

1048
00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:08,520
Speaker 2: Mexican fans would show up times a billion. Was it.

1049
00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:11,319
Speaker 1: Mark Davis, the Raiders owner, he was there mouth breather, Yeah,

1050
00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:13,080
Speaker 1: he was there in attendance with his haircut. Yeah, I'm

1051
00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:15,200
Speaker 1: sure he wants that fight too, so hey, big Red,

1052
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:17,840
Speaker 1: let's do it. Luke. We got Randy Couture in a

1053
00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:20,600
Speaker 1: little less than fifteen minutes to talk PFL and so

1054
00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:23,360
Speaker 1: much more. But let's slide over to topic number three.

1055
00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:26,200
Speaker 1: It was a big piece of news last week for sure.

1056
00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:28,520
Speaker 1: UFC three to zero three has changed the main event

1057
00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:31,200
Speaker 1: and co main event with Connor McGregor's exit due to

1058
00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:34,200
Speaker 1: an undisclosed injury of some form. Now we have our

1059
00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:38,360
Speaker 1: first public statement from McGregor. After UFC CEO Dana White

1060
00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:40,600
Speaker 1: announced the new changes. If we can show that full

1061
00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:43,440
Speaker 1: screen graphic, McGregor went to social media and said, very

1062
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:45,399
Speaker 1: tough to be ruled out of my schedule. Return about

1063
00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:47,400
Speaker 1: I picked up an injury prior to the press conference

1064
00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:49,759
Speaker 1: that required more time to heal than was available to me.

1065
00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:52,440
Speaker 1: The decision to postpone the fight was not made lightly,

1066
00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:55,240
Speaker 1: but one made in consultation with my doctors, the UFC,

1067
00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:57,160
Speaker 1: and my team. He wanted out to say that the

1068
00:45:57,200 --> 00:45:59,719
Speaker 1: fans deserve him to be at his best, so thanks

1069
00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:02,480
Speaker 1: for the support. He's in good spirits and he's confident

1070
00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:04,279
Speaker 1: he'll be back. Luke, we also saw him post a

1071
00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:07,360
Speaker 1: picture holding his son getting out of the car. That

1072
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:09,080
Speaker 1: is okay because he had the shaved head, and peoples

1073
00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:10,759
Speaker 1: an old picture. People are saying a lot of these

1074
00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:12,279
Speaker 1: pictures that he's been putting out, people are trying to

1075
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:14,480
Speaker 1: figure out the training footage, what is going on there.

1076
00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:15,799
Speaker 2: I'm not saying he didn't shave his head, but that

1077
00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:16,759
Speaker 2: is an old picture, okay.

1078
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:18,759
Speaker 1: So from the little that Connor has shared and the

1079
00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:22,160
Speaker 1: even less that the UFC has shared about this, what's

1080
00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:26,280
Speaker 1: your best take on what really happened? Where is the injury?

1081
00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:28,320
Speaker 1: I've heard, I heard a broken toe, I've heard of

1082
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:30,319
Speaker 1: a brui shinn. You hear a lot. I mean yeah,

1083
00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:32,400
Speaker 1: I heard for weeks that Connor's dad was dying and

1084
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:33,080
Speaker 1: apparently that's.

1085
00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:33,480
Speaker 2: Not true too.

1086
00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:35,759
Speaker 1: So from what we know, which is very little, based

1087
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:38,440
Speaker 1: on how the UFC has handled this, what's your best

1088
00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:39,880
Speaker 1: guest on what really happened?

1089
00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:42,520
Speaker 2: So we spoke to some folks, a few different folks

1090
00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:46,040
Speaker 2: in Las Vegas this past week that had some intel

1091
00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:48,880
Speaker 2: about it, and they didn't exactly tell me all of this.

1092
00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:50,920
Speaker 2: So I'm kind of trying to put a picture of

1093
00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:55,719
Speaker 2: this together. My best sense is sometime around Saturday or

1094
00:46:56,080 --> 00:46:57,880
Speaker 2: early Sunday, but I think Saturday.

1095
00:46:57,480 --> 00:46:59,040
Speaker 1: That's the night of Newark UFC three of ys.

1096
00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:00,759
Speaker 2: Yes, the night of the Night of You three to two,

1097
00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:03,600
Speaker 2: Connor suffered an injury to one of his lower extremities.

1098
00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:05,640
Speaker 2: I don't know the exact nature of it, but there

1099
00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:09,520
Speaker 2: from there he obviously let the UFC know about it.

1100
00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:12,480
Speaker 2: And my understanding is it was a five alarm fire

1101
00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:14,720
Speaker 2: that they had to go address. I think some folks

1102
00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:17,040
Speaker 2: even flew out to Dublin to go see about everything.

1103
00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:19,759
Speaker 1: They put the full court gaslight pressure on I.

1104
00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:21,319
Speaker 2: Don't think they put gas light pressure on it. But

1105
00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:23,480
Speaker 2: my understanding is, and this again, no one quite said

1106
00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:25,360
Speaker 2: it this way, but I'm trying to interpret what was said.

1107
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:27,840
Speaker 2: I think the UFC put a lot of pressure on

1108
00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:30,239
Speaker 2: him to stay in Now. Of course, I don't say

1109
00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:33,279
Speaker 2: that in any kind of malicious way. Necessarily, Hello, it's

1110
00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:37,719
Speaker 2: Connor McGregor. Hello, it's International fight Week. They're gonna want

1111
00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:41,440
Speaker 2: to see every specialist possible to see if there's any

1112
00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:44,320
Speaker 2: way that he can stay on the card. Because in reality,

1113
00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:47,400
Speaker 2: BC we've talked about this last week. The new UFC

1114
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:50,279
Speaker 2: three zero three card is arguably better than it was

1115
00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:53,640
Speaker 2: before as a fuller card, but Connor McGregor simply has

1116
00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:57,279
Speaker 2: no replacement, not right now, it doesn't really exist. And

1117
00:47:57,320 --> 00:48:00,359
Speaker 2: you can understand them wanting him to stay in the fight.

1118
00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:03,480
Speaker 2: I don't understand how their optimism went up and then

1119
00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:05,279
Speaker 2: down and up and down. I don't quite understand that

1120
00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:08,160
Speaker 2: part of the story. But eventually they realized this is

1121
00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:10,160
Speaker 2: not going to happen. Either he wasn't willing to make

1122
00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:13,680
Speaker 2: it a try, or the doctors said no, some combination

1123
00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:17,239
Speaker 2: of the two whatever, And then once that happened, then

1124
00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:20,200
Speaker 2: they decided to replace. And that's kind of important because

1125
00:48:20,239 --> 00:48:22,200
Speaker 2: one of the and I'm not here, we've been over

1126
00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:24,560
Speaker 2: the the you know, could UFC handled a differently part

1127
00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:27,080
Speaker 2: a million times? The only part that I feel like

1128
00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:29,520
Speaker 2: did work out for us, because you know, there's a

1129
00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:32,879
Speaker 2: lot of it was unknown. People think it took two

1130
00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:35,359
Speaker 2: weeks to get a new main event for UFC three

1131
00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:39,160
Speaker 2: to zero three. It did not. It took about forty

1132
00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:42,359
Speaker 2: eight to seventy two hours. As we understand it. They

1133
00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:45,920
Speaker 2: just waited that long before they decided to pull the trigger.

1134
00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:47,400
Speaker 2: The point I'm trying to make is I didn't know.

1135
00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:50,160
Speaker 2: I was like, what injury takes this long to diagnose.

1136
00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:53,200
Speaker 2: And again my understanding is they want to go through

1137
00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:55,800
Speaker 2: a bunch of different specialists, They want to see everything

1138
00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:58,239
Speaker 2: that was happening. But I'm just going to point this out.

1139
00:48:58,280 --> 00:49:01,440
Speaker 2: Whatever injury assessment he got when the injury first happened

1140
00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:05,680
Speaker 2: turned out to be correct, because the initial assessment was

1141
00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:09,359
Speaker 2: he probably cannot fight at UFC three oh three. Sure enough,

1142
00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:13,080
Speaker 2: he's not fighting at UFC three to three. My only

1143
00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:15,759
Speaker 2: question is why couldn't it have happened sooner? And I

1144
00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:18,760
Speaker 2: guess the answer right BC is they were doing everything

1145
00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:20,440
Speaker 2: in their power to see if he can find a

1146
00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:21,480
Speaker 2: way to stay in Well.

1147
00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:24,120
Speaker 1: Look, this opened up a new topic of conversation because

1148
00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:27,560
Speaker 1: Connor is notorious up unintended for never pulling out of

1149
00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:30,360
Speaker 1: a fight, for fighting Chad mendis through an injury. If

1150
00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:32,279
Speaker 1: I mean, look, it's happened multiple times that he's fought

1151
00:49:32,280 --> 00:49:35,080
Speaker 1: through major injuries and quick turnarounds, back when he was

1152
00:49:35,120 --> 00:49:38,480
Speaker 1: in his magic prime, his magic mic prime, so to speak.

1153
00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:41,480
Speaker 1: But Luke, if we can throw to this incredible dunk

1154
00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:44,840
Speaker 1: tweet here from our da how many eight years for

1155
00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:46,759
Speaker 1: the we go back to UFC one ninety six and

1156
00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:48,960
Speaker 1: twenty sixteen in the fight that never happened in our

1157
00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:52,560
Speaker 1: DA quote tweeting and saying it's justin bruise, I'm proven.

1158
00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:55,640
Speaker 1: Do you feel like this is kind of becoming the

1159
00:49:55,960 --> 00:49:59,080
Speaker 1: because again, we know very little about what actually happened

1160
00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:01,600
Speaker 1: between UFC Connor and the rumors that we can hear

1161
00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:01,960
Speaker 1: out there.

1162
00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:02,440
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1163
00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:04,840
Speaker 1: Do you think this proves, outside of our DA getting

1164
00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:07,720
Speaker 1: him back, that there's a profailing thought that maybe Connor

1165
00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:09,279
Speaker 1: could have pushed through and chose not to.

1166
00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:12,560
Speaker 2: I don't think Connor is taking the same physical risks

1167
00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:14,600
Speaker 2: that he once did, because here's the reality. Folks are

1168
00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:17,760
Speaker 2: gonna say to your point, Hey, he fought Chad Mendez

1169
00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:20,560
Speaker 2: maybe with no ACLA and you'll recall remember that fight.

1170
00:50:20,600 --> 00:50:22,759
Speaker 2: I remember doing my analysis post fight. I didn't know

1171
00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:25,000
Speaker 2: he was injured at the time, and I remember he

1172
00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:26,279
Speaker 2: got taken down. And what was the first thing he

1173
00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:27,719
Speaker 2: did when he got taken down? Do you remember, No,

1174
00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:30,000
Speaker 2: he locked up full guard and then just held it. Ye,

1175
00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:32,200
Speaker 2: kind of like Dustin did against Charles Lavera and I

1176
00:50:32,200 --> 00:50:33,920
Speaker 2: think their second round or whatever it was when they

1177
00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:35,799
Speaker 2: fought for the title, and I was like, this guy

1178
00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:37,880
Speaker 2: has no fucking guard, like he doesn't even well, it

1179
00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:39,640
Speaker 2: turns out he was just doing that because he had

1180
00:50:39,719 --> 00:50:42,839
Speaker 2: that was the best choice given the alternatives. But that's

1181
00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:44,600
Speaker 2: a very risky way.

1182
00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:46,799
Speaker 1: And that's still the most he's ever celebrated Owen by

1183
00:50:46,840 --> 00:50:49,799
Speaker 1: no doubt. It shows you the despair that was under

1184
00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:50,399
Speaker 1: there when he was on.

1185
00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:52,640
Speaker 2: His back, when he was on his hot streak, the

1186
00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:55,520
Speaker 2: mystic mac the whatever area you want era you want

1187
00:50:55,520 --> 00:50:58,360
Speaker 2: to call that. He was partly doing that because of

1188
00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:00,480
Speaker 2: the results he got. But it's not just the results

1189
00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:03,160
Speaker 2: we see. It was the way he got to the results,

1190
00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:06,160
Speaker 2: where he stayed hot, it didn't matter if he was injured.

1191
00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:09,720
Speaker 2: He mocked everyone else for their caution. He mocked everyone

1192
00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:11,600
Speaker 2: else for their inability to cross the finish line. What

1193
00:51:11,600 --> 00:51:13,640
Speaker 2: did he call kabeb a pull out merchant? And then

1194
00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:16,200
Speaker 2: everyone and their brother was calling him that. I don't

1195
00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:18,880
Speaker 2: think that there's really any way this guy is taking

1196
00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:22,200
Speaker 2: the same kinds of physical risks at this juncture, in

1197
00:51:22,239 --> 00:51:24,960
Speaker 2: part pc because he doesn't need to. But that all

1198
00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:26,680
Speaker 2: brings me back to it's like, dude, if you don't

1199
00:51:26,719 --> 00:51:28,680
Speaker 2: want to take the same risks as you don't need

1200
00:51:28,719 --> 00:51:31,520
Speaker 2: to because you got all the money already, what the

1201
00:51:31,560 --> 00:51:32,799
Speaker 2: fuck are you fighting for?

1202
00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:35,120
Speaker 1: You know what? I got his gypnology to Dana when

1203
00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:37,239
Speaker 1: Dana had been saying forever that, you know the whole

1204
00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:39,480
Speaker 1: thing about this guy's got so many millions of reasons

1205
00:51:39,480 --> 00:51:41,000
Speaker 1: not to fight when you make that much money, you know,

1206
00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:42,920
Speaker 1: blah blah blah. I thought that was covering up for

1207
00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:45,240
Speaker 1: their inability to want to pay what Connor was demanded.

1208
00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:45,960
Speaker 2: Or is that too?

1209
00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:47,719
Speaker 1: There is that two to a certain degree. But I

1210
00:51:47,719 --> 00:51:51,440
Speaker 1: think we're now starting to put together the idea of like,

1211
00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:53,560
Speaker 1: he's not coming through that door again. Now we always

1212
00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:55,040
Speaker 1: knew twenty fifteen.

1213
00:51:54,680 --> 00:51:55,680
Speaker 2: Are you saying Connragregor?

1214
00:51:55,840 --> 00:51:56,400
Speaker 1: You are you?

1215
00:51:56,560 --> 00:52:00,720
Speaker 2: Is Brian Campbell declaring Connor's anymore.

1216
00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:02,920
Speaker 1: I'm not declaring that he physically will not step into

1217
00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:04,799
Speaker 1: the octagon again, but the idea that you and I

1218
00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:07,839
Speaker 1: were clinging to the last more big win forty eight

1219
00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:10,839
Speaker 1: last twenty four months, that he's got one more big win,

1220
00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:12,480
Speaker 1: that he can put it all back together for one

1221
00:52:12,520 --> 00:52:14,480
Speaker 1: more night to remind us. Maybe he'll take a couple

1222
00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:16,359
Speaker 1: of big losses and pay per views against big names,

1223
00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:18,280
Speaker 1: but he's going to be able to re energize himself

1224
00:52:18,320 --> 00:52:20,040
Speaker 1: to get him maybe back into one more title shot,

1225
00:52:20,040 --> 00:52:23,160
Speaker 1: whether that's lightweight or welter. Wait, Luke, that guy's not

1226
00:52:23,160 --> 00:52:24,920
Speaker 1: coming through the door again. I mean, let's Rick Patino

1227
00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:27,120
Speaker 1: nineteen ninety seven this and just say, like Larry Bird,

1228
00:52:27,160 --> 00:52:31,120
Speaker 1: Robert Parris not not walking through there. It's over, Luke,

1229
00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:33,160
Speaker 1: And maybe it's been over for a while, but it

1230
00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:35,120
Speaker 1: took me a long time to realize that. I don't

1231
00:52:35,120 --> 00:52:37,000
Speaker 1: think that you can see when he comes up for

1232
00:52:37,040 --> 00:52:38,759
Speaker 1: air on social media over the last two years, what

1233
00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:40,880
Speaker 1: do we see a guy living the fuel on?

1234
00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:44,120
Speaker 2: Just a week before the injury, we saw him partying.

1235
00:52:44,120 --> 00:52:46,120
Speaker 2: And there's a real question. Again, I don't know the answer.

1236
00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:47,960
Speaker 1: For aln rock star lifestyle.

1237
00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:50,680
Speaker 2: And it appears I say it very quickly, I'll put

1238
00:52:50,719 --> 00:52:52,239
Speaker 2: you right back to you, which is I don't know

1239
00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:54,600
Speaker 2: what the truth is. But if there are questions about

1240
00:52:54,600 --> 00:52:57,240
Speaker 2: what physical readiness he had at the time he suffered

1241
00:52:57,239 --> 00:52:59,400
Speaker 2: the injury, I don't think they're out of bounds.

1242
00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:02,239
Speaker 1: Also, when you're aging, your body becomes a little bit

1243
00:53:02,280 --> 00:53:05,080
Speaker 1: more brittle if you are living that rock star style

1244
00:53:05,120 --> 00:53:08,080
Speaker 1: that all of his interviews in social media posts maybe suggest,

1245
00:53:08,840 --> 00:53:10,480
Speaker 1: it would be a lot easier for not only your

1246
00:53:10,480 --> 00:53:12,359
Speaker 1: body to get nicked up, but maybe you not being

1247
00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:14,279
Speaker 1: as willing like we said to bite down and push through.

1248
00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:16,080
Speaker 1: I don't know. We don't have all the info. This

1249
00:53:16,120 --> 00:53:18,040
Speaker 1: is all we know. One thing we do know, Luke,

1250
00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:21,760
Speaker 1: is that the idea from McGregor and from the rumors

1251
00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:23,279
Speaker 1: that we hear, is that the UFC would like to

1252
00:53:23,320 --> 00:53:25,400
Speaker 1: rebook this later in the air, either the fall or

1253
00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:28,640
Speaker 1: maybe even December. What do you do if you're Michael

1254
00:53:28,719 --> 00:53:31,319
Speaker 1: Chandler here, because that's going to leave you out. Two

1255
00:53:31,520 --> 00:53:34,080
Speaker 1: years now, he's been putting out his own tweets just

1256
00:53:34,120 --> 00:53:37,360
Speaker 1: basically saying like, look, I'm fine, connor rusted up. You

1257
00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:39,200
Speaker 1: know a lot of that sort of like taking the

1258
00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:41,640
Speaker 1: high road optimism that this is all part of the plan.

1259
00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:43,719
Speaker 1: But it couldn't be part of the plan for Michael

1260
00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:45,920
Speaker 1: Chandler when you're already here for a short ride, not

1261
00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:49,680
Speaker 1: a long one. You've been in such incredible action fights.

1262
00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:52,319
Speaker 1: This is the you know, this pace for the retirement home.

1263
00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:55,200
Speaker 1: This is the big one. Do you stay with this plan, Luke,

1264
00:53:55,400 --> 00:53:57,000
Speaker 1: or do you just look at you know, let me

1265
00:53:57,000 --> 00:53:59,360
Speaker 1: get my own gay Chee rematch or Poorier rematch. I mean,

1266
00:53:59,360 --> 00:54:01,200
Speaker 1: what are you doing if you're Michael Chandler. Moving forward, if.

1267
00:54:01,120 --> 00:54:04,319
Speaker 2: You're not getting pay per viewpoints, you walk, and even

1268
00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:07,279
Speaker 2: if you are, you retire from the fight. Yeah, and

1269
00:54:07,320 --> 00:54:09,759
Speaker 2: even if you are getting payer viewpoints, you probably still walk.

1270
00:54:09,880 --> 00:54:12,840
Speaker 2: I'm not I'm like you. I'm not declaring he won't

1271
00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:15,000
Speaker 2: walk through the octagon again. I know some folks are

1272
00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:20,400
Speaker 2: making that claim. They may be right. I don't know.

1273
00:54:20,680 --> 00:54:22,480
Speaker 2: I feel it's a little bit more prudent to say

1274
00:54:22,560 --> 00:54:25,360
Speaker 2: right now, he's clearly not going to be a force again.

1275
00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:28,160
Speaker 2: I don't see that happening really at all. But he

1276
00:54:28,239 --> 00:54:31,960
Speaker 2: might fight again, So yeah, you could wait. But it's

1277
00:54:31,960 --> 00:54:33,759
Speaker 2: already a bit of a sunk cost, so you know

1278
00:54:33,800 --> 00:54:36,160
Speaker 2: there's a problem there as well. But if I'm Michael Chandler,

1279
00:54:36,520 --> 00:54:38,400
Speaker 2: I think you just have to recognize, dude, the window

1280
00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:43,040
Speaker 2: to contribute any kind of meaningful athletic life to fighting

1281
00:54:43,520 --> 00:54:46,160
Speaker 2: is almost at the very end. You can get old

1282
00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:49,440
Speaker 2: overnight at one hundred and fifty five pounds, or in

1283
00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:51,000
Speaker 2: this particular case, one's seventy.

1284
00:54:50,719 --> 00:54:52,440
Speaker 1: But there that's linked to that.

1285
00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:54,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, you get the idea. Well, this is not championship fight,

1286
00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:57,480
Speaker 2: so it may not may not apply as strictly, but

1287
00:54:57,520 --> 00:55:01,640
Speaker 2: the point more generally is I find finally feel like again,

1288
00:55:01,640 --> 00:55:03,000
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say it one more time. I don't know

1289
00:55:03,040 --> 00:55:04,719
Speaker 2: the nature of what his injury. You brought up all

1290
00:55:04,760 --> 00:55:06,920
Speaker 2: the rock star stuff he got rich, dude, let us

1291
00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:08,759
Speaker 2: not forget. He is trying to come back in a

1292
00:55:08,760 --> 00:55:14,080
Speaker 2: way that really nobody else has from a profoundly traumatic injury.

1293
00:55:14,200 --> 00:55:16,320
Speaker 1: I think we're back. I think we're past him recovering

1294
00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:17,360
Speaker 1: from that traumatic injury.

1295
00:55:17,480 --> 00:55:19,959
Speaker 2: Show me somebody who's recovered from that injury, who picked

1296
00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:21,120
Speaker 2: up right where they left off.

1297
00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:24,319
Speaker 1: Okay, but it's three years later. Where didn't Widman and

1298
00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:25,760
Speaker 1: Silva come back way.

1299
00:55:25,640 --> 00:55:29,800
Speaker 2: Quicker as shells of themselves? Yeah? At fair point, Yeah,

1300
00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:32,440
Speaker 2: they sure did. Again, It's not just that injury. It's

1301
00:55:32,440 --> 00:55:34,640
Speaker 2: a lot of predictare Alex Smith played again and he

1302
00:55:34,719 --> 00:55:37,400
Speaker 2: had a spiral fracture which was way worse than anything

1303
00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:39,799
Speaker 2: Connor suffered. You can still do it again. You do

1304
00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:41,560
Speaker 2: not come back the same from what we have seen.

1305
00:55:41,719 --> 00:55:43,360
Speaker 2: He might be the first because of the nature of

1306
00:55:43,360 --> 00:55:45,080
Speaker 2: the medicine, and we all know the story out there.

1307
00:55:45,239 --> 00:55:46,879
Speaker 2: The point I'm just trying to make is I think

1308
00:55:46,920 --> 00:55:51,040
Speaker 2: you actually have finally enough evidence to conclude that you

1309
00:55:51,200 --> 00:55:54,520
Speaker 2: cannot contribute to this sunk cost anymore. It is highly

1310
00:55:54,680 --> 00:55:56,560
Speaker 2: by the way and the rumors that we heard in Vegas,

1311
00:55:56,600 --> 00:55:58,279
Speaker 2: and again the take it for what it's worth. Figure

1312
00:55:58,280 --> 00:56:01,320
Speaker 2: of what it's worth. What we heard was August September

1313
00:56:01,400 --> 00:56:03,680
Speaker 2: probably not going to happen, much more likely to happen

1314
00:56:03,880 --> 00:56:06,160
Speaker 2: closer to the end of the year, maybe November December.

1315
00:56:06,200 --> 00:56:08,640
Speaker 2: That was what we said. We hear folks. So if

1316
00:56:08,640 --> 00:56:11,040
Speaker 2: you're Michael Chandler, what happens if you get to that

1317
00:56:11,080 --> 00:56:13,040
Speaker 2: close to that finish line and then he pulls out again?

1318
00:56:13,080 --> 00:56:15,719
Speaker 2: You have wasted all of this time? And for what

1319
00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:18,760
Speaker 2: If it's me, you know, it's easy for me to say,

1320
00:56:19,120 --> 00:56:21,520
Speaker 2: but I feel like he has enough evidence to conclude

1321
00:56:21,560 --> 00:56:24,040
Speaker 2: this is not going to happen on a reasonable timeline

1322
00:56:24,160 --> 00:56:25,560
Speaker 2: or at all. It might be time to move.

1323
00:56:25,480 --> 00:56:27,279
Speaker 1: All right. I don't predict that Connor doesn't walk again.

1324
00:56:27,320 --> 00:56:28,879
Speaker 1: I do predict he gets knocked out when he does

1325
00:56:28,920 --> 00:56:30,839
Speaker 1: walk again. I just think we're at that point before

1326
00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:31,600
Speaker 1: we welcome in our guest.

1327
00:56:31,680 --> 00:56:31,839
Speaker 2: Luke.

1328
00:56:31,880 --> 00:56:33,239
Speaker 1: I got one more point to throw on here. It

1329
00:56:33,320 --> 00:56:35,399
Speaker 1: was the handling of the news. Areajuani had to stick

1330
00:56:35,400 --> 00:56:37,440
Speaker 1: to journalism. He got criticized by some, but he did

1331
00:56:37,480 --> 00:56:38,600
Speaker 1: stick to the core basis.

1332
00:56:38,600 --> 00:56:40,279
Speaker 2: I don't understand this from I support it.

1333
00:56:40,320 --> 00:56:42,319
Speaker 1: But then Michael Bisbane came in from the top rope.

1334
00:56:42,400 --> 00:56:43,480
Speaker 1: Let's start the videotape.

1335
00:56:43,560 --> 00:56:46,000
Speaker 4: Ariel Jwan is out there a lot of the time.

1336
00:56:46,040 --> 00:56:48,520
Speaker 4: He's posting and tweeting like he's an expert on everything,

1337
00:56:48,560 --> 00:56:50,880
Speaker 4: but he knows nothing. He's putting feelers out there.

1338
00:56:50,719 --> 00:56:51,759
Speaker 5: Because that's what he wants to do.

1339
00:56:51,800 --> 00:56:53,840
Speaker 4: That's his badge of honor. He likes to break news

1340
00:56:53,920 --> 00:56:57,000
Speaker 4: if I hear of a situation. I'm not doing investigative

1341
00:56:57,080 --> 00:57:01,120
Speaker 4: Journalism's trying to find out my life. It depends on it,

1342
00:57:01,280 --> 00:57:04,120
Speaker 4: and I will risk everything so I can be the

1343
00:57:04,160 --> 00:57:07,399
Speaker 4: one to break It's because who gives them and it's

1344
00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:10,840
Speaker 4: none of your business? What will be? Will they stay

1345
00:57:10,880 --> 00:57:11,640
Speaker 4: out of it? Yet?

1346
00:57:11,680 --> 00:57:14,799
Speaker 6: Prick Michael Bisbang, who I see him talking about me

1347
00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:17,920
Speaker 6: with such vitriol, with such animosity, with such hatred, where

1348
00:57:17,920 --> 00:57:20,080
Speaker 6: he's talking about like it's none of my business and

1349
00:57:20,160 --> 00:57:22,720
Speaker 6: I just I'm dying to know, and I'm dying to

1350
00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:25,320
Speaker 6: be first. Well, hopefully the video that I posted of

1351
00:57:25,400 --> 00:57:28,840
Speaker 6: me walking outside at two thirty would refute that dying

1352
00:57:28,840 --> 00:57:30,720
Speaker 6: to be first. The idea that it's none of my business.

1353
00:57:30,760 --> 00:57:33,480
Speaker 6: It's quite literally my business to be reporting and be

1354
00:57:33,560 --> 00:57:35,840
Speaker 6: in the nose. That's journalism. And he says like, I'm

1355
00:57:35,840 --> 00:57:37,600
Speaker 6: not trying to be some investigative juris. Yeah, I know

1356
00:57:37,680 --> 00:57:39,800
Speaker 6: you're not trying to be some investigativejourniss You're a slap

1357
00:57:39,840 --> 00:57:43,120
Speaker 6: fighting commentator. You're a boot liquor. You're a former bad

1358
00:57:43,160 --> 00:57:45,760
Speaker 6: boy who became a boot licker who wants to stay

1359
00:57:45,760 --> 00:57:47,560
Speaker 6: in good standing and has realized, like the likes of

1360
00:57:47,600 --> 00:57:49,200
Speaker 6: all the abdelazi is, that it's better for you and

1361
00:57:49,280 --> 00:57:51,080
Speaker 6: your career in your pocket and more power to you

1362
00:57:51,120 --> 00:57:52,720
Speaker 6: to be on Dana's good side. So if he could

1363
00:57:52,720 --> 00:57:54,560
Speaker 6: see these clips, they'll be like, good on you, Mike.

1364
00:57:54,640 --> 00:57:56,640
Speaker 6: And so you have chosen to pick a fight with

1365
00:57:56,720 --> 00:57:59,280
Speaker 6: me or to discredit me in order to curry favor

1366
00:57:59,400 --> 00:58:01,400
Speaker 6: with your boss, who gives you a few quid to

1367
00:58:01,600 --> 00:58:04,400
Speaker 6: commentate and be excited about slap fighting. To me's shameful.

1368
00:58:04,440 --> 00:58:06,200
Speaker 6: It's embarrassing. And that's why I refer to him as

1369
00:58:06,200 --> 00:58:08,000
Speaker 6: bootleck or pissing now. And he could say whatever the

1370
00:58:08,000 --> 00:58:09,120
Speaker 6: fuck he wants about.

1371
00:58:08,840 --> 00:58:13,240
Speaker 2: Me, where's my hip hop horn, where's my hip hop

1372
00:58:13,280 --> 00:58:19,200
Speaker 2: Horn next week. Yeah, you're fired again again.

1373
00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:21,760
Speaker 1: I don't normally play into this bit, although Ariel's a

1374
00:58:21,760 --> 00:58:24,520
Speaker 1: friend of the program, but I will this time. Well

1375
00:58:24,560 --> 00:58:27,200
Speaker 1: he good for you, Ariel. I don't let me ask you.

1376
00:58:27,560 --> 00:58:29,640
Speaker 2: I've never had a bad relationship with Michael. I don't

1377
00:58:29,680 --> 00:58:31,000
Speaker 2: get the sense that he likes me anymore. But I

1378
00:58:31,040 --> 00:58:32,760
Speaker 2: don't know. Every time I see him, he's friendly, but

1379
00:58:32,760 --> 00:58:34,280
Speaker 2: then I see him take shots, so I don't know either.

1380
00:58:35,200 --> 00:58:37,200
Speaker 2: I don't have any problem with him, But what the

1381
00:58:37,200 --> 00:58:41,240
Speaker 2: fuck is he talking about? I don't want to do literally, but.

1382
00:58:41,120 --> 00:58:44,040
Speaker 1: It feels like literally UFC Brass called him up and said,

1383
00:58:44,160 --> 00:58:45,760
Speaker 1: go on your podcast and deal with this. That's what

1384
00:58:45,760 --> 00:58:47,520
Speaker 1: it literally feels like, doesn't it.

1385
00:58:47,640 --> 00:58:52,200
Speaker 2: I don't understand what the complaint even is. I mean,

1386
00:58:52,240 --> 00:58:54,840
Speaker 2: you could say I didn't like the reporting because he

1387
00:58:54,920 --> 00:58:57,120
Speaker 2: didn't need to conceal the injury. You could have said

1388
00:58:57,160 --> 00:58:59,439
Speaker 2: something like that maybe if you are something like that.

1389
00:58:59,680 --> 00:59:02,480
Speaker 2: But the act of trying to get more information and

1390
00:59:02,520 --> 00:59:06,280
Speaker 2: delivered to the public, Yeah, it's like, people, what's the

1391
00:59:06,280 --> 00:59:07,440
Speaker 2: I don't understand what the problem.

1392
00:59:07,440 --> 00:59:09,280
Speaker 1: Like when I write a column for CBS Sports that

1393
00:59:09,320 --> 00:59:10,680
Speaker 1: you know, people don't have to like it. When they

1394
00:59:10,720 --> 00:59:12,040
Speaker 1: come back and who, you know, what do you who

1395
00:59:12,120 --> 00:59:14,040
Speaker 1: makes you think that you ever right for this opinion

1396
00:59:14,560 --> 00:59:18,200
Speaker 1: of my employers. I'm a you know, editorial columnist. That's

1397
00:59:18,280 --> 00:59:20,840
Speaker 1: that's my job, right. It's the same bullshit this is.

1398
00:59:21,840 --> 00:59:23,760
Speaker 1: I got issues with Bisping too, Luke, because I tried

1399
00:59:23,760 --> 00:59:25,600
Speaker 1: to corner him that time at the at the UH

1400
00:59:25,880 --> 00:59:27,760
Speaker 1: at the APEX to tell him I really was inspired

1401
00:59:27,760 --> 00:59:29,439
Speaker 1: by his book because I was shout out to Ann

1402
00:59:29,440 --> 00:59:31,479
Speaker 1: Evans about him, you know, getting out of prison whatever,

1403
00:59:31,480 --> 00:59:32,960
Speaker 1: and he was like, yeah, yeah, man, that's good, but

1404
00:59:33,000 --> 00:59:34,760
Speaker 1: I got to get out of here. And then twenty

1405
00:59:34,800 --> 00:59:37,040
Speaker 1: five minutes later I saw him outside the building still talking,

1406
00:59:37,160 --> 00:59:39,200
Speaker 1: so you know, yeah, that was great, Mike, thanks a lot.

1407
00:59:39,960 --> 00:59:41,920
Speaker 1: I don't hold grudges or anything, all right. We got

1408
00:59:41,960 --> 00:59:44,000
Speaker 1: to show those topics and get back to them on

1409
00:59:44,040 --> 00:59:46,000
Speaker 1: the other side, Luke, we thought for the second straight

1410
00:59:46,040 --> 00:59:48,240
Speaker 1: week that we were going to talk to really on

1411
00:59:48,280 --> 00:59:50,040
Speaker 1: the short list of my favorite fighters of all time,

1412
00:59:50,080 --> 00:59:52,720
Speaker 1: the great Randy Cooter from PFL and UFC Hall of Fame.

1413
00:59:52,840 --> 00:59:53,360
Speaker 2: Oh for two.

1414
00:59:53,400 --> 00:59:56,280
Speaker 1: Here we did get a last minute substitution from a

1415
00:59:56,320 --> 01:00:00,680
Speaker 1: great friend of the program, though, and another welcome voice

1416
01:00:00,720 --> 01:00:03,520
Speaker 1: in the MMA. Space working now for PFL. You may

1417
01:00:03,560 --> 01:00:06,720
Speaker 1: have seen him on the greatest live podcast show in

1418
01:00:06,720 --> 01:00:08,960
Speaker 1: the history of the world in London back in February

1419
01:00:09,000 --> 01:00:12,520
Speaker 1: of twenty He was there, Let's bring in the outlaw himself,

1420
01:00:12,720 --> 01:00:18,040
Speaker 1: Dan freaking you talk about substitutions. This is about as

1421
01:00:18,040 --> 01:00:20,880
Speaker 1: good as against Dan. Thank you under these circumstances for

1422
01:00:20,960 --> 01:00:23,560
Speaker 1: filling in. We all love Randy. Hope everything's fine there,

1423
01:00:23,720 --> 01:00:25,480
Speaker 1: welcome back to the program.

1424
01:00:26,040 --> 01:00:27,960
Speaker 5: Thank you, Thank you guys. It's always good to talk

1425
01:00:28,000 --> 01:00:28,720
Speaker 5: to you. Yeah.

1426
01:00:28,800 --> 01:00:31,120
Speaker 3: I was actually gonna grab my Randy Gutor action figure

1427
01:00:31,160 --> 01:00:32,560
Speaker 3: and just hold it up to the camera for you,

1428
01:00:32,640 --> 01:00:36,040
Speaker 3: but I wasn't quick enough to pull it off the wall. Yeah,

1429
01:00:36,320 --> 01:00:38,240
Speaker 3: I'm not sure what's happening with Brandy. I know he's

1430
01:00:38,240 --> 01:00:41,680
Speaker 3: obviously busy traveling with the with the regular season events.

1431
01:00:41,720 --> 01:00:45,120
Speaker 3: But I'm sure you'll get back to you guys very soon. Yeah,

1432
01:00:45,120 --> 01:00:47,000
Speaker 3: happy to join you. Always a pleasure to talk to

1433
01:00:47,040 --> 01:00:47,400
Speaker 3: you boys.

1434
01:00:48,000 --> 01:00:50,400
Speaker 1: How are things in the PFL at our space these days?

1435
01:00:51,360 --> 01:00:51,520
Speaker 2: Man?

1436
01:00:51,560 --> 01:00:54,240
Speaker 3: They're good, you know, they're really good. At Newcastle was

1437
01:00:54,800 --> 01:00:56,920
Speaker 3: a lot of fun. We had some really really good fights,

1438
01:00:56,920 --> 01:01:00,880
Speaker 3: some standout performances at Savannah Marshall making their Mma debut.

1439
01:01:01,000 --> 01:01:03,240
Speaker 3: I mean, honestly, I don't think it could have been

1440
01:01:03,280 --> 01:01:05,919
Speaker 3: a better fight really. You know, she was taken down

1441
01:01:05,960 --> 01:01:09,440
Speaker 3: three times. She she tied her opponent up, she made frames,

1442
01:01:09,480 --> 01:01:12,280
Speaker 3: she got back to her feet. There was a really

1443
01:01:12,360 --> 01:01:14,640
Speaker 3: tight arm triangle at one point which had me worried.

1444
01:01:14,680 --> 01:01:18,160
Speaker 3: So you know, she like, she looked really good. I thought,

1445
01:01:18,200 --> 01:01:21,280
Speaker 3: you know, it was a very very tough fight. Her opponent,

1446
01:01:21,320 --> 01:01:23,440
Speaker 3: Marilla was very very game. You know, I'm looking forward

1447
01:01:23,440 --> 01:01:26,200
Speaker 3: to seeing her fight again as well, because like nobody,

1448
01:01:26,280 --> 01:01:28,440
Speaker 3: nobody is willing to stand with Savannah Marshall like that

1449
01:01:28,480 --> 01:01:32,040
Speaker 3: if they don't need to, surely, and she did. But yeah,

1450
01:01:32,400 --> 01:01:33,760
Speaker 3: that was a good night. And then I've just got

1451
01:01:33,800 --> 01:01:36,880
Speaker 3: back from mohegan Son, which was very cool because of course,

1452
01:01:36,920 --> 01:01:39,640
Speaker 3: you know, we've heard the name mohegan Son so many times,

1453
01:01:39,840 --> 01:01:43,320
Speaker 3: but it was my first time visiting the legendary Arena,

1454
01:01:43,400 --> 01:01:45,040
Speaker 3: so that was very cool as well.

1455
01:01:45,560 --> 01:01:48,680
Speaker 2: Did you get lie in Connecticut? Connecticut famous that.

1456
01:01:51,200 --> 01:01:52,160
Speaker 5: I did not get lies?

1457
01:01:52,240 --> 01:01:54,240
Speaker 3: No, although I mean, you know, I've only just got home,

1458
01:01:54,280 --> 01:01:57,120
Speaker 3: so I'll have to I have the double check.

1459
01:01:57,080 --> 01:01:59,600
Speaker 2: All right, Well that's what Connecticut does. But in all seriousness,

1460
01:02:00,200 --> 01:02:02,560
Speaker 2: can you clarify what your role is in the company.

1461
01:02:02,600 --> 01:02:05,320
Speaker 2: Obviously we've seen you doing stuff for PFL Europe and

1462
01:02:05,360 --> 01:02:08,840
Speaker 2: then commentating more generally, are you on the matchmaking business here? Like,

1463
01:02:08,880 --> 01:02:12,160
Speaker 2: what are all the things that you do for the company?

1464
01:02:12,520 --> 01:02:16,480
Speaker 3: Oh man, okay, Well, so so for PFL Europe, I'm

1465
01:02:16,600 --> 01:02:18,960
Speaker 3: a head of fighter ups. So my job, I mean,

1466
01:02:19,000 --> 01:02:20,480
Speaker 3: i was on my own up to a point. I've

1467
01:02:20,480 --> 01:02:23,080
Speaker 3: got a colleague now who you know, helps me. It

1468
01:02:23,080 --> 01:02:25,480
Speaker 3: helps me out with a lot of things. But you know,

1469
01:02:25,600 --> 01:02:27,120
Speaker 3: up to a point, it was it was a case

1470
01:02:27,160 --> 01:02:30,800
Speaker 3: of scouting fighters and signing them, you know, agreeing to terms,

1471
01:02:31,400 --> 01:02:34,280
Speaker 3: matching them for their fights, and you know, getting all

1472
01:02:34,280 --> 01:02:37,520
Speaker 3: their paperwork organized, getting their contracts requested and signed off,

1473
01:02:37,560 --> 01:02:40,560
Speaker 3: and you know pretty much everything that goes involved up

1474
01:02:40,600 --> 01:02:42,120
Speaker 3: until the point where I passed them over to the

1475
01:02:42,120 --> 01:02:45,560
Speaker 3: onboarding team and they start, you know, organizing their medicals.

1476
01:02:46,240 --> 01:02:49,280
Speaker 3: It was, it was it was a busy few months.

1477
01:02:49,280 --> 01:02:51,800
Speaker 3: But now I've got someone that helps me out with that.

1478
01:02:52,760 --> 01:02:55,280
Speaker 3: So that's for PFO Europe. Of course I commentate on

1479
01:02:55,320 --> 01:02:58,880
Speaker 3: those events as well, and then for PFL Global I

1480
01:02:58,920 --> 01:03:00,600
Speaker 3: get to as many of those of as I can.

1481
01:03:00,800 --> 01:03:02,600
Speaker 3: I'm not getting to the next two because I'm doing

1482
01:03:02,640 --> 01:03:07,240
Speaker 3: the Bellot or Doublin event coming up. And then you know,

1483
01:03:08,080 --> 01:03:10,800
Speaker 3: we've got you know, different groups of people do different

1484
01:03:10,800 --> 01:03:13,600
Speaker 3: things within the company, but we're quite collaborative. You know,

1485
01:03:13,880 --> 01:03:16,600
Speaker 3: we're on various different calls each week, and you know,

1486
01:03:16,640 --> 01:03:18,760
Speaker 3: I check in with the PFL MENA guys to see

1487
01:03:18,760 --> 01:03:21,040
Speaker 3: what they're doing and their cards coming up, and we

1488
01:03:21,200 --> 01:03:23,400
Speaker 3: just kind of all help and advise wherever we can.

1489
01:03:23,440 --> 01:03:26,800
Speaker 3: We've got lots of different experience in the company. Some fighters,

1490
01:03:26,840 --> 01:03:29,800
Speaker 3: some you know, lifetime matchmakers, some people that used to

1491
01:03:29,840 --> 01:03:34,160
Speaker 3: be journalists that have stepped into the business. So well,

1492
01:03:34,360 --> 01:03:36,600
Speaker 3: we all kind of chip in and help each other out.

1493
01:03:36,600 --> 01:03:40,040
Speaker 3: But at the moment I've got I've got several different jobs.

1494
01:03:40,320 --> 01:03:43,160
Speaker 2: So so help me understand what you see as PFLs

1495
01:03:43,200 --> 01:03:45,880
Speaker 2: not goals for twenty twenty four and obviously half the

1496
01:03:45,960 --> 01:03:48,520
Speaker 2: year is almost gone at this point, but more than that,

1497
01:03:49,000 --> 01:03:52,040
Speaker 2: what you guys are aiming to accomplish this year. So

1498
01:03:52,040 --> 01:03:53,560
Speaker 2: for example, like one of the things that has really

1499
01:03:53,600 --> 01:03:55,800
Speaker 2: stood out to me is there's a lot of energy

1500
01:03:55,840 --> 01:03:58,919
Speaker 2: and interest in PFL Europe. I can see that Cedric

1501
01:03:59,000 --> 01:04:02,640
Speaker 2: Dumbey by himself in a revelation, but like the tournament

1502
01:04:02,680 --> 01:04:05,600
Speaker 2: shows in the States don't feel like they're going anywhere.

1503
01:04:06,000 --> 01:04:09,120
Speaker 2: So help me understand from your perspective, what is PFL

1504
01:04:09,240 --> 01:04:11,640
Speaker 2: trying to accomplish the rest of this year.

1505
01:04:13,520 --> 01:04:15,480
Speaker 3: You know, I think it's just just the case of

1506
01:04:15,520 --> 01:04:17,000
Speaker 3: growing as a brand. You know, we've got a lot

1507
01:04:17,000 --> 01:04:19,800
Speaker 3: of other things going on. Obviously, with the acquisition of Bellator,

1508
01:04:19,880 --> 01:04:22,640
Speaker 3: that's been a difficult thing to manage. With the two

1509
01:04:22,960 --> 01:04:25,960
Speaker 3: rosters kind of coming together and how they filter out

1510
01:04:25,960 --> 01:04:29,480
Speaker 3: into the different organizations, that's been quite a process, as

1511
01:04:29,480 --> 01:04:33,000
Speaker 3: well as starting PFL Mina, which is the second regional

1512
01:04:33,080 --> 01:04:35,720
Speaker 3: lead that the PFL have set up. So there have

1513
01:04:35,720 --> 01:04:37,760
Speaker 3: been a lot of different things going on, and you know,

1514
01:04:37,840 --> 01:04:40,280
Speaker 3: we're we're probably not growing as a team as quickly

1515
01:04:40,320 --> 01:04:43,840
Speaker 3: as we're growing as a promotion. So you know, the

1516
01:04:44,160 --> 01:04:46,320
Speaker 3: most important thing is that we just keep kind of

1517
01:04:46,360 --> 01:04:49,240
Speaker 3: moving forward as a you know, as a promotion and

1518
01:04:49,320 --> 01:04:53,600
Speaker 3: keep growing you know, the US shows. You know, I mean,

1519
01:04:53,680 --> 01:04:55,960
Speaker 3: I'll be honest, like I keep saying to the team, look,

1520
01:04:56,000 --> 01:04:56,760
Speaker 3: we need elbows.

1521
01:04:56,800 --> 01:04:58,080
Speaker 5: We need to bring elbows back.

1522
01:04:58,120 --> 01:05:00,480
Speaker 3: Because there were a couple of fights at the weekend

1523
01:05:00,840 --> 01:05:04,160
Speaker 3: heavyweight fights which were very, very exciting, fast paced to

1524
01:05:04,160 --> 01:05:06,440
Speaker 3: start with, but then they slow down when they hit

1525
01:05:06,480 --> 01:05:08,640
Speaker 3: the ground. And you know, I do feel like bringing

1526
01:05:08,680 --> 01:05:10,920
Speaker 3: elbows back in would be a big, big key. And

1527
01:05:11,000 --> 01:05:13,880
Speaker 3: the other thing as well is really helping people understand

1528
01:05:15,200 --> 01:05:19,480
Speaker 3: the the PFL system. You know, it's different in the

1529
01:05:19,520 --> 01:05:20,320
Speaker 3: regional leagues.

1530
01:05:20,400 --> 01:05:21,440
Speaker 5: In MINA and.

1531
01:05:21,400 --> 01:05:25,000
Speaker 3: In Europe, we have one regular season event, one regular

1532
01:05:25,000 --> 01:05:28,520
Speaker 3: season fight, then one playoff and one championship per fighter,

1533
01:05:28,960 --> 01:05:30,680
Speaker 3: so you have to do three fights to get the

1534
01:05:30,920 --> 01:05:34,560
Speaker 3: European championship, whereas for Global they get two regular season

1535
01:05:34,600 --> 01:05:36,920
Speaker 3: fights and they get points obviously, as you know, depending

1536
01:05:36,960 --> 01:05:39,360
Speaker 3: on if they can finish the fight first, second, or

1537
01:05:39,400 --> 01:05:43,160
Speaker 3: third round. And I think because it's a different format

1538
01:05:43,240 --> 01:05:46,640
Speaker 3: and because we don't have elbows, it seems different and

1539
01:05:46,680 --> 01:05:48,800
Speaker 3: it feels different to a lot of MMA fans, and

1540
01:05:48,840 --> 01:05:52,920
Speaker 3: it's not you know, we're not quite connected with the

1541
01:05:52,960 --> 01:05:55,880
Speaker 3: broader fan base just yet. I feel it is growing,

1542
01:05:55,880 --> 01:05:58,400
Speaker 3: and I do feel the difference from one show to another.

1543
01:05:58,880 --> 01:06:02,880
Speaker 3: But you know, so some little tweaks and improvements that

1544
01:06:03,800 --> 01:06:05,720
Speaker 3: I'm working on behind the scenes as well as a

1545
01:06:05,720 --> 01:06:08,720
Speaker 3: couple of other people to make these improvements and you know,

1546
01:06:08,800 --> 01:06:12,600
Speaker 3: bring the PFL really more into the MMA mainstream than

1547
01:06:12,600 --> 01:06:13,120
Speaker 3: it is now.

1548
01:06:14,160 --> 01:06:17,680
Speaker 1: And when we talk about the crowd reaction in PFL Europe,

1549
01:06:17,680 --> 01:06:20,280
Speaker 1: I mean it's off the charts, from Savannah in Newcastle

1550
01:06:20,320 --> 01:06:24,440
Speaker 1: there to Doombay in Paris. Speaking of doom Bay, how

1551
01:06:24,480 --> 01:06:28,120
Speaker 1: bright is this ceiling because he seems to have transition

1552
01:06:28,240 --> 01:06:33,160
Speaker 1: here of the PFL with ease, crowd favorite exciting. Is

1553
01:06:33,200 --> 01:06:36,200
Speaker 1: this guy an attraction fighter for PFL moving forward, a

1554
01:06:36,280 --> 01:06:40,200
Speaker 1: tournament title contender. What is possible here with Cedra Dumbay

1555
01:06:40,360 --> 01:06:41,400
Speaker 1: under the PFL brand.

1556
01:06:42,600 --> 01:06:44,280
Speaker 3: You know, it's a bit of as a bit of

1557
01:06:44,320 --> 01:06:47,000
Speaker 3: an interesting commodity because he can he can fit in

1558
01:06:47,040 --> 01:06:49,040
Speaker 3: a variety of different places, you know. I mean if

1559
01:06:49,080 --> 01:06:51,440
Speaker 3: we put him in the PFL Europe tournament with the

1560
01:06:51,480 --> 01:06:54,200
Speaker 3: rest of the welterweights, you know, of course you would

1561
01:06:54,240 --> 01:06:57,000
Speaker 3: expect him to have the advantage and expect to win it.

1562
01:06:58,080 --> 01:07:00,000
Speaker 3: I just don't think he would fit there. He needs

1563
01:07:00,160 --> 01:07:02,800
Speaker 3: bigger stage. That's why you know, we've been doing main

1564
01:07:02,840 --> 01:07:05,120
Speaker 3: events and co main events for him. And you know,

1565
01:07:05,200 --> 01:07:08,240
Speaker 3: of course, you know, the backy situation didn't end, didn't resolve,

1566
01:07:08,720 --> 01:07:10,160
Speaker 3: you know in the way that we would have liked.

1567
01:07:10,200 --> 01:07:12,920
Speaker 3: You know, we want clear cut finishes or decisions on

1568
01:07:12,960 --> 01:07:16,000
Speaker 3: these fights. But what it did do he showed me

1569
01:07:16,080 --> 01:07:19,720
Speaker 3: that he's able to scramble, he's able to stop takedowns.

1570
01:07:19,720 --> 01:07:21,560
Speaker 3: You know, he's got good butterfly hooks that keep the

1571
01:07:21,560 --> 01:07:24,800
Speaker 3: fight moving. Once I'd seen that, I kind of started

1572
01:07:24,800 --> 01:07:28,480
Speaker 3: thinking to myself, you know, maybe he is ready for

1573
01:07:28,480 --> 01:07:30,320
Speaker 3: the fighters that he's calling now. You know, obviously you

1574
01:07:30,360 --> 01:07:33,720
Speaker 3: know he's lined up to fights Anthony Pettis next, which

1575
01:07:33,760 --> 01:07:35,600
Speaker 3: I do feel is a step up. You know for

1576
01:07:36,160 --> 01:07:38,440
Speaker 3: mm A wise, he's fighting a veteran someone has got

1577
01:07:38,480 --> 01:07:41,840
Speaker 3: a lot of experience, but they're different positions of their career.

1578
01:07:41,880 --> 01:07:44,240
Speaker 3: I feel like Doombay at this point is faster and

1579
01:07:44,480 --> 01:07:46,400
Speaker 3: you know, a little bit sharper, and if it stays

1580
01:07:46,400 --> 01:07:49,520
Speaker 3: in the striking range, I would imagine that he'll be

1581
01:07:49,560 --> 01:07:52,960
Speaker 3: able to beat Pettis to the punch. Really, it's where

1582
01:07:52,960 --> 01:07:54,520
Speaker 3: the Pettis can take the fight to the floor, and

1583
01:07:54,560 --> 01:07:56,360
Speaker 3: that's where we're going to see him tested again. But

1584
01:07:56,640 --> 01:07:58,760
Speaker 3: from what I saw against Backy, who of course is

1585
01:07:58,760 --> 01:08:02,040
Speaker 3: a very very strong wrest he held his own, he

1586
01:08:02,080 --> 01:08:04,600
Speaker 3: was able to keep the fight moving. He wasn't controlled

1587
01:08:04,600 --> 01:08:08,200
Speaker 3: in any position. So I honestly don't know where his

1588
01:08:08,280 --> 01:08:11,680
Speaker 3: ceiling is. You know, it's difficult to quantify the experience

1589
01:08:11,680 --> 01:08:13,240
Speaker 3: that he brings over from kickboxing.

1590
01:08:14,120 --> 01:08:14,800
Speaker 5: You know, he was in.

1591
01:08:14,840 --> 01:08:17,800
Speaker 3: Very competitive weight classes. He had multiple fights against the

1592
01:08:17,840 --> 01:08:20,960
Speaker 3: same fighters, which always tends to refine a fighter. You know,

1593
01:08:21,000 --> 01:08:23,439
Speaker 3: it tends to force people to rise to a different level.

1594
01:08:24,400 --> 01:08:27,719
Speaker 3: And you know, you watch back through Doombay's kickboxing career

1595
01:08:27,760 --> 01:08:30,280
Speaker 3: and there were several gears that he shifted through. You know,

1596
01:08:30,479 --> 01:08:32,880
Speaker 3: it wasn't until the second half of his kickboxing career

1597
01:08:32,920 --> 01:08:35,160
Speaker 3: where he really started to have a lot of success

1598
01:08:35,200 --> 01:08:37,720
Speaker 3: with his boxing. And I think now he's crossed over

1599
01:08:37,760 --> 01:08:40,280
Speaker 3: to mixed martial arts, that's going to serve him even better.

1600
01:08:40,320 --> 01:08:43,559
Speaker 3: But there is always an adjustment period, and I think

1601
01:08:44,040 --> 01:08:45,799
Speaker 3: he's kind of being fast tracked at the moment.

1602
01:08:46,840 --> 01:08:48,400
Speaker 5: You know, with the rules around.

1603
01:08:48,160 --> 01:08:52,120
Speaker 3: The matchmaking in Paris in France, should I say it

1604
01:08:52,160 --> 01:08:54,720
Speaker 3: was difficult to match him in his early career, but

1605
01:08:54,800 --> 01:08:56,719
Speaker 3: now at this stage, with the fights that he's had,

1606
01:08:57,040 --> 01:08:59,479
Speaker 3: he's able to be matched against anybody of any record,

1607
01:09:00,439 --> 01:09:03,559
Speaker 3: So we can really start to accelerate him, especially if

1608
01:09:03,560 --> 01:09:05,880
Speaker 3: he gets through Pettis. The way that a lot of

1609
01:09:05,920 --> 01:09:08,519
Speaker 3: a lot of the French fans are talking about.

1610
01:09:08,439 --> 01:09:11,400
Speaker 1: Well Pettis versus doom Bays must see TV. Cannot wait

1611
01:09:11,439 --> 01:09:13,200
Speaker 1: to see that. I want to talk to you about

1612
01:09:13,280 --> 01:09:15,120
Speaker 1: some of the things coming up. You got PFL five.

1613
01:09:15,479 --> 01:09:18,040
Speaker 1: This was this Friday night? Correct or is the Saturday?

1614
01:09:18,240 --> 01:09:22,920
Speaker 1: Yes in Utah, PFL making the debut. We're gonna see

1615
01:09:22,920 --> 01:09:25,000
Speaker 1: Clay Collin versus Mad's Burnell in the main event as

1616
01:09:25,000 --> 01:09:26,960
Speaker 1: the tournament rolls on, and I can't wait to see that.

1617
01:09:27,120 --> 01:09:28,960
Speaker 1: I want to talk about a storyline maybe not getting

1618
01:09:28,960 --> 01:09:31,120
Speaker 1: a lot talked about it, Sada b C. We can

1619
01:09:31,160 --> 01:09:34,320
Speaker 1: talk about rip Anthony Johnson, who came in at welterweight,

1620
01:09:34,360 --> 01:09:36,280
Speaker 1: went all the way up to heavyweight over the course

1621
01:09:36,320 --> 01:09:40,120
Speaker 1: of years. Sada Bouc was in the PFL welterweight final

1622
01:09:40,360 --> 01:09:43,880
Speaker 1: last year and now he's competing at light heavyweight. How

1623
01:09:43,920 --> 01:09:46,679
Speaker 1: did that happen? And have you ever seen this type

1624
01:09:46,720 --> 01:09:49,200
Speaker 1: of jump in the succession of one year like this?

1625
01:09:50,960 --> 01:09:52,599
Speaker 5: You know, I honestly haven't.

1626
01:09:52,800 --> 01:09:55,840
Speaker 3: I think it was a real post for him to

1627
01:09:55,840 --> 01:09:58,040
Speaker 3: get to welterweight, of course, and you you know, you

1628
01:09:58,080 --> 01:10:00,200
Speaker 3: look at this guy's frame, you look at the you know,

1629
01:10:00,240 --> 01:10:02,479
Speaker 3: the width of his shoulders and stuff, and you can

1630
01:10:02,520 --> 01:10:05,600
Speaker 3: tell that he should, you know, maybe a middleweight, but

1631
01:10:06,040 --> 01:10:08,880
Speaker 3: he transitioned to light heavyweight so well. I mean he's

1632
01:10:08,880 --> 01:10:11,120
Speaker 3: got the height and reach for it. And you know,

1633
01:10:11,280 --> 01:10:13,040
Speaker 3: I'm a big fan of people not cutting a lot

1634
01:10:13,080 --> 01:10:16,600
Speaker 3: of weight. Interestingly, of course, his opponent, Tom Brees was

1635
01:10:16,640 --> 01:10:19,400
Speaker 3: also well to weight in his early UFC days, and

1636
01:10:19,600 --> 01:10:22,559
Speaker 3: he's moved up through two weight classes, one belts at

1637
01:10:22,600 --> 01:10:26,519
Speaker 3: middleweight and then at light heavyweight in Europe, and I

1638
01:10:26,560 --> 01:10:29,840
Speaker 3: think he's honestly, he looks stronger and healthier at light

1639
01:10:29,880 --> 01:10:32,840
Speaker 3: heavyweight than he has throughout his entire career. I know

1640
01:10:32,880 --> 01:10:35,800
Speaker 3: he had a rough start against Rob Wilkinson, but then

1641
01:10:36,000 --> 01:10:40,559
Speaker 3: who wouldn't against Rob Wilkinson. But I think it's an

1642
01:10:40,560 --> 01:10:43,000
Speaker 3: interesting fight. You've got two guys that they're fighting at

1643
01:10:43,040 --> 01:10:45,360
Speaker 3: light heavyweight, but they're not huge for the weight class.

1644
01:10:45,360 --> 01:10:47,400
Speaker 3: They're going to have to use their skill and their

1645
01:10:47,720 --> 01:10:51,080
Speaker 3: technical abilities to get the fight one. And they're both

1646
01:10:51,120 --> 01:10:53,400
Speaker 3: going to be healthy, which is the most important thing

1647
01:10:53,439 --> 01:10:55,599
Speaker 3: for me. That's when we get the best performances out

1648
01:10:55,640 --> 01:10:59,080
Speaker 3: of these guys. But honestly, I think this is a

1649
01:10:59,200 --> 01:11:01,519
Speaker 3: very very difficult like to call. You know, Satabus is

1650
01:11:01,600 --> 01:11:03,599
Speaker 3: very good on the back foot. He's very good at

1651
01:11:03,600 --> 01:11:05,760
Speaker 3: finding a liver with his knee or with his foot,

1652
01:11:06,600 --> 01:11:08,719
Speaker 3: and of course he's take down the fences, getting stronger

1653
01:11:08,720 --> 01:11:11,519
Speaker 3: and stronger. If he can hold Tom breeze and kick

1654
01:11:11,560 --> 01:11:13,599
Speaker 3: him range, I feel like it's gonna be a long

1655
01:11:13,720 --> 01:11:15,320
Speaker 3: night for Tom. You know, Tom needs to get through

1656
01:11:15,360 --> 01:11:18,479
Speaker 3: into boxing range, which is where he really starts to shine.

1657
01:11:18,479 --> 01:11:20,040
Speaker 3: And then if he can get the fight to the floor,

1658
01:11:20,080 --> 01:11:22,880
Speaker 3: which will be a challenge, that's where Tom, I feel,

1659
01:11:22,960 --> 01:11:26,240
Speaker 3: takes over. But a really interesting matchup this one.

1660
01:11:26,640 --> 01:11:29,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, Friday Night, Salt Lake City, the likes of Tricky,

1661
01:11:29,240 --> 01:11:32,120
Speaker 1: Pitbull and Pakasangane, so many names on there. You mentioned

1662
01:11:32,120 --> 01:11:34,840
Speaker 1: you've got a lot of jobs these days. One of

1663
01:11:34,880 --> 01:11:38,240
Speaker 1: those jobs is the trainer to your wife, Veronica Hardy

1664
01:11:38,280 --> 01:11:40,200
Speaker 1: in the UFC, and I've got to give the two

1665
01:11:40,200 --> 01:11:43,439
Speaker 1: of you so much credit in the evolution of late,

1666
01:11:44,320 --> 01:11:48,320
Speaker 1: particularly in the striking Dan. She's on fire right now.

1667
01:11:49,280 --> 01:11:50,960
Speaker 1: I don't want to say, you know, what's the ceiling

1668
01:11:51,000 --> 01:11:53,600
Speaker 1: for her, but title contention feels like it's not that

1669
01:11:53,720 --> 01:11:54,639
Speaker 1: far away right now.

1670
01:11:56,360 --> 01:11:57,760
Speaker 5: I absolutely agree with you.

1671
01:11:57,840 --> 01:12:00,519
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, I have the forty the fortune

1672
01:12:00,560 --> 01:12:03,400
Speaker 3: of seeing her on a daily basis, you know, with

1673
01:12:03,520 --> 01:12:06,920
Speaker 3: a full technical skill set, and that's something that you know,

1674
01:12:07,000 --> 01:12:09,880
Speaker 3: people have not yet seen in the octagon. You've seen

1675
01:12:09,920 --> 01:12:12,439
Speaker 3: glimpses of it. You know, you've seen her shining moments,

1676
01:12:12,479 --> 01:12:16,479
Speaker 3: but really, I mean, you know, I could talk about

1677
01:12:16,479 --> 01:12:19,280
Speaker 3: it all day, honestly, She's she impresses me all the time.

1678
01:12:19,680 --> 01:12:23,639
Speaker 3: Her technical ability in every single range of the game

1679
01:12:23,720 --> 01:12:26,400
Speaker 3: is very very good. And obviously with this wind streak,

1680
01:12:27,080 --> 01:12:29,320
Speaker 3: the conference is coming up, which is the key in

1681
01:12:29,360 --> 01:12:32,479
Speaker 3: winning fights at the highest level in this sport. We'll

1682
01:12:32,479 --> 01:12:34,360
Speaker 3: see who the UFC give her next, but you know,

1683
01:12:34,439 --> 01:12:38,679
Speaker 3: we're ready for whatever challenges she's She's looking very very good.

1684
01:12:38,680 --> 01:12:41,479
Speaker 3: She's strong, she's healthy for the first time in her

1685
01:12:41,479 --> 01:12:46,400
Speaker 3: career consistently and you know, consistent training with with good

1686
01:12:46,400 --> 01:12:48,840
Speaker 3: training partners. Were at Renegade a lot, so she's got

1687
01:12:49,080 --> 01:12:52,280
Speaker 3: good bodies over there to work with, you know, light

1688
01:12:52,360 --> 01:12:54,679
Speaker 3: fast guys as well as you know, some good girls

1689
01:12:54,720 --> 01:12:58,280
Speaker 3: Lexi and Melissa Mullins, who's obviously on the UFC roster

1690
01:12:58,400 --> 01:13:00,920
Speaker 3: as well. And then you know, we spend a lot

1691
01:13:00,920 --> 01:13:03,360
Speaker 3: of time over at Henzo Graci's in New York, and

1692
01:13:03,760 --> 01:13:06,920
Speaker 3: the level of grappling there is you know, as you

1693
01:13:06,960 --> 01:13:09,840
Speaker 3: know onlike onlike many of the places in the world.

1694
01:13:09,880 --> 01:13:12,360
Speaker 3: It's a very special place. And you know, to see

1695
01:13:12,360 --> 01:13:15,160
Speaker 3: her on the mats there against high level grapplers and

1696
01:13:15,240 --> 01:13:18,040
Speaker 3: see how how capable she is, it gives me a

1697
01:13:18,040 --> 01:13:20,519
Speaker 3: lot of hope wherever the fights go in her career.

1698
01:13:21,160 --> 01:13:23,600
Speaker 3: I'm just I'm just happy to to kind of be

1699
01:13:23,640 --> 01:13:25,599
Speaker 3: along for the ride, you know. It's it's a different

1700
01:13:25,640 --> 01:13:29,439
Speaker 3: experience for me, a different experience cornering for sure.

1701
01:13:30,880 --> 01:13:32,720
Speaker 2: I want to get to some breaking news here if

1702
01:13:32,720 --> 01:13:36,040
Speaker 2: I can. It's now I've been confirmed that French prospect

1703
01:13:36,080 --> 01:13:40,120
Speaker 2: Baki Chemsudonov, the guy who fought to against Cedric Duombay

1704
01:13:40,160 --> 01:13:42,280
Speaker 2: with the other thing in his foot, he has just

1705
01:13:42,400 --> 01:13:44,320
Speaker 2: re signed with PFL. But I want to have a

1706
01:13:44,360 --> 01:13:47,599
Speaker 2: bigger question about this if I can. Dan, You've got

1707
01:13:47,640 --> 01:13:50,800
Speaker 2: Saladin Parnass, two weight world champion with KSW, doesn't sign

1708
01:13:50,880 --> 01:13:54,120
Speaker 2: with UFC. Paul Hughes signed with PFL. This guy out

1709
01:13:54,120 --> 01:13:56,480
Speaker 2: of Russia who's like the best lightweight in Russia of Vartannian.

1710
01:13:56,600 --> 01:13:58,640
Speaker 2: They wanted him to go through Contender Series, so he

1711
01:13:58,680 --> 01:14:01,040
Speaker 2: rejected it. You got to say, guy Los, send Kaita

1712
01:14:01,080 --> 01:14:04,800
Speaker 2: out of octagon. Now you've got Backycham Sudonov with PFL.

1713
01:14:05,560 --> 01:14:07,840
Speaker 2: The UFC is just not taking now. They did sign

1714
01:14:07,920 --> 01:14:11,320
Speaker 2: Kayasa Kora, but they're just not taking a lot of

1715
01:14:11,560 --> 01:14:15,360
Speaker 2: regional top prospects anymore, and they're going to some of

1716
01:14:15,400 --> 01:14:19,640
Speaker 2: these other predominantly European promotions. What is your view of

1717
01:14:19,640 --> 01:14:20,519
Speaker 2: what's happening there?

1718
01:14:22,640 --> 01:14:24,479
Speaker 3: You know, I just think there's so much talent in

1719
01:14:24,560 --> 01:14:26,600
Speaker 3: mixed martial arts it can't all end up in the

1720
01:14:26,640 --> 01:14:29,479
Speaker 3: same place. You know, We've never had as many MMA

1721
01:14:29,560 --> 01:14:33,519
Speaker 3: fighters as we've got today. I'm matching four events for

1722
01:14:33,600 --> 01:14:36,080
Speaker 3: PFL Europe and I could I could easily match twelve.

1723
01:14:36,280 --> 01:14:38,760
Speaker 3: I could do one a month and still have you know,

1724
01:14:38,800 --> 01:14:41,240
Speaker 3: more than enough space to you know, more than enough

1725
01:14:41,240 --> 01:14:45,960
Speaker 3: fighters to match. There's an abundance and the levels getting

1726
01:14:46,000 --> 01:14:48,519
Speaker 3: so high as well. The other thing is it's difficult

1727
01:14:48,560 --> 01:14:51,720
Speaker 3: to track, honestly. I mean, I'm in Europe and it's

1728
01:14:51,760 --> 01:14:54,720
Speaker 3: difficult to track what's going on across Europe because there

1729
01:14:54,720 --> 01:14:58,160
Speaker 3: are so many different schools now, so many different former

1730
01:14:58,240 --> 01:15:00,880
Speaker 3: MMA fighters that have crossed over in to coaching, and

1731
01:15:01,000 --> 01:15:04,240
Speaker 3: they're proving to be incredible coaches. You know, Peter Subota

1732
01:15:04,280 --> 01:15:07,040
Speaker 3: is a good example. We signed a guy called Florien's

1733
01:15:07,040 --> 01:15:09,920
Speaker 3: and Deli who's through to the playoffs in PFL Europe.

1734
01:15:10,320 --> 01:15:12,760
Speaker 3: And you know Peter Szabotta was, you know, he was

1735
01:15:12,760 --> 01:15:14,599
Speaker 3: in the US. He had two stints in the UFC.

1736
01:15:15,040 --> 01:15:18,160
Speaker 3: First one didn't work out too well. He regrouped, he

1737
01:15:18,240 --> 01:15:20,320
Speaker 3: went on a win street came back and had a

1738
01:15:20,400 --> 01:15:24,120
Speaker 3: much stronger second showing. But these are the kind of

1739
01:15:24,120 --> 01:15:26,479
Speaker 3: people that are crossing over into coaching now and they're

1740
01:15:26,520 --> 01:15:30,040
Speaker 3: influencing the next generations. And of course these generations they're

1741
01:15:30,040 --> 01:15:33,800
Speaker 3: starting at ten years old and you know, within a

1742
01:15:33,840 --> 01:15:38,640
Speaker 3: few years they've had fifteen twenty thirty amateur fights on

1743
01:15:38,720 --> 01:15:42,280
Speaker 3: the IMATH League and they've got loads of experience against

1744
01:15:42,680 --> 01:15:47,280
Speaker 3: real international competition that's all chasing the same thing. It's

1745
01:15:47,360 --> 01:15:50,200
Speaker 3: really amazing because literally I could sign amateurs right now

1746
01:15:50,240 --> 01:15:53,240
Speaker 3: that are ready to turn pro and they're as strong as,

1747
01:15:53,320 --> 01:15:56,439
Speaker 3: if not better than, some of the guys that have

1748
01:15:56,560 --> 01:15:58,639
Speaker 3: been fighting professionally for three.

1749
01:15:58,479 --> 01:15:59,120
Speaker 5: Or four years.

1750
01:15:59,439 --> 01:16:02,280
Speaker 3: There's just there's a real jumping levels right now and

1751
01:16:02,880 --> 01:16:04,920
Speaker 3: some of the you know, some of these outliers, the

1752
01:16:05,040 --> 01:16:08,439
Speaker 3: likes of Paul Hughes and Baki Shamsudonov that they're going

1753
01:16:08,520 --> 01:16:10,479
Speaker 3: to make their own way, and they'll take their fan

1754
01:16:10,520 --> 01:16:14,360
Speaker 3: base with them. I'm happy that he's rejoining us. There's

1755
01:16:14,479 --> 01:16:16,639
Speaker 3: a lot of unfinished business that needs to be settled

1756
01:16:16,640 --> 01:16:20,280
Speaker 3: in the Smart Cage. So that is great news, isn't it.

1757
01:16:21,320 --> 01:16:23,360
Speaker 1: And I don't know if you have news on this,

1758
01:16:23,520 --> 01:16:25,599
Speaker 1: But when we think PFL and we think of twenty

1759
01:16:25,680 --> 01:16:28,840
Speaker 1: twenty four, we do think about Francis and Ghanu. Do

1760
01:16:28,880 --> 01:16:31,519
Speaker 1: you think after that devastating knockout loss in boxing to

1761
01:16:31,560 --> 01:16:34,639
Speaker 1: Anthony Joshua, that will see him come back to MMA

1762
01:16:34,720 --> 01:16:37,080
Speaker 1: it's been a while and make this long awaited PFL

1763
01:16:37,120 --> 01:16:40,720
Speaker 1: debut this calendar year, you.

1764
01:16:40,720 --> 01:16:41,599
Speaker 5: Know, I certainly hope.

1765
01:16:41,640 --> 01:16:44,599
Speaker 3: So it's difficult to really understand where Francis is at

1766
01:16:44,640 --> 01:16:47,840
Speaker 3: right now. I mean, you know, professional career aside just

1767
01:16:47,920 --> 01:16:50,960
Speaker 3: his personal life. It must be it must be in

1768
01:16:50,960 --> 01:16:54,439
Speaker 3: a very very difficult place right now. So you know,

1769
01:16:54,640 --> 01:16:57,000
Speaker 3: maybe a training camp and a fight would give him

1770
01:16:57,040 --> 01:17:00,240
Speaker 3: some kind of focus and anchor him. But you know,

1771
01:17:00,320 --> 01:17:02,360
Speaker 3: that's only a decision that he can make. I hope

1772
01:17:02,360 --> 01:17:04,720
Speaker 3: we see him back in competition, and I expect that

1773
01:17:04,760 --> 01:17:06,519
Speaker 3: we see him back in competition in the you know,

1774
01:17:06,560 --> 01:17:10,240
Speaker 3: the last quarter of this year. But I couldn't be

1775
01:17:10,280 --> 01:17:12,920
Speaker 3: one hundred percent on that right now. Given the circumstances,

1776
01:17:13,680 --> 01:17:14,679
Speaker 3: we'll have to wait and see.

1777
01:17:14,720 --> 01:17:16,839
Speaker 1: You can't wait to see him back, and whatever he chooses,

1778
01:17:16,880 --> 01:17:20,519
Speaker 1: we'll see PFL five this Friday from Salt Lake City, Dan.

1779
01:17:20,640 --> 01:17:24,719
Speaker 1: Always a pleasure to chat with you, Dan Hardy about anything, Okay,

1780
01:17:24,800 --> 01:17:27,000
Speaker 1: my man, So thank you so much for joining us.

1781
01:17:27,479 --> 01:17:29,240
Speaker 1: We love you on the mic. We love you in

1782
01:17:29,280 --> 01:17:31,160
Speaker 1: person as well. Hope to catch up with you. Thanks

1783
01:17:31,160 --> 01:17:31,519
Speaker 1: so much.

1784
01:17:32,439 --> 01:17:35,559
Speaker 5: Thank you guys. Always a pleasure talking to you there.

1785
01:17:35,600 --> 01:17:37,400
Speaker 1: He is the outlaw, Dan Hardy.

1786
01:17:37,479 --> 01:17:39,599
Speaker 2: We should just Saytor is going to be on every show.

1787
01:17:40,080 --> 01:17:41,880
Speaker 1: I don't know what happened with old Randy, but if

1788
01:17:41,920 --> 01:17:43,800
Speaker 1: they're gonna sub in Dan Hardy, I'll take that, look

1789
01:17:43,800 --> 01:17:44,720
Speaker 1: okay any day of the week.

1790
01:17:45,040 --> 01:17:46,599
Speaker 2: Sure. I would just like to know what the fuck

1791
01:17:46,640 --> 01:17:48,360
Speaker 2: has happened two weeks in a row. You know, maybe that.

1792
01:17:48,360 --> 01:17:50,360
Speaker 1: Cage was so smart they knew don't put him on

1793
01:17:50,400 --> 01:17:53,080
Speaker 1: this show. Just don't even subject him to what we've

1794
01:17:53,080 --> 01:17:53,760
Speaker 1: got going on here.

1795
01:17:53,920 --> 01:17:57,920
Speaker 2: Spart Cage humor never never ever ages.

1796
01:17:58,040 --> 01:18:01,080
Speaker 1: Old Dan still podcasts in these days, or as he

1797
01:18:01,080 --> 01:18:01,320
Speaker 1: put that.

1798
01:18:01,320 --> 01:18:02,559
Speaker 2: On, I think he still does some stuff on his

1799
01:18:02,560 --> 01:18:03,080
Speaker 2: YouTube channel.

1800
01:18:03,120 --> 01:18:05,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, yeah, good to see him in the matchmaking role, Luke.

1801
01:18:05,720 --> 01:18:08,160
Speaker 2: Yes, it certainly is. All right, let's get this back

1802
01:18:08,160 --> 01:18:09,479
Speaker 2: to where we were before.

1803
01:18:09,520 --> 01:18:10,840
Speaker 1: We see put the train on the track.

1804
01:18:10,720 --> 01:18:13,320
Speaker 2: All right, So let's talk about the fights from this weekend.

1805
01:18:13,400 --> 01:18:16,400
Speaker 2: Other in fairness, we're not doing any bashing. There was

1806
01:18:16,400 --> 01:18:19,720
Speaker 2: not a ton of like very important action. However, in

1807
01:18:19,800 --> 01:18:22,560
Speaker 2: the main event BC from UFC Vegas, whatever it was,

1808
01:18:22,600 --> 01:18:24,800
Speaker 2: I can't even remember the number anymore. I think ninety

1809
01:18:24,840 --> 01:18:25,680
Speaker 2: three ninety three was.

1810
01:18:25,640 --> 01:18:27,800
Speaker 1: Then, don't even think those numbers matter, Luke, So.

1811
01:18:27,720 --> 01:18:31,320
Speaker 2: What does matter? What does matter is Tetsuro Tyra improved

1812
01:18:31,320 --> 01:18:34,719
Speaker 2: as sixteen and oh six and oh in the UFC

1813
01:18:34,800 --> 01:18:38,040
Speaker 2: twenty four years old at flyweight. He does what's basically

1814
01:18:38,040 --> 01:18:41,599
Speaker 2: called the broomstick stick sweep and then does a straight

1815
01:18:41,680 --> 01:18:43,880
Speaker 2: jacket at the same time. So he had the far

1816
01:18:43,960 --> 01:18:47,519
Speaker 2: wrist pulled across the body of Petes and then he

1817
01:18:47,560 --> 01:18:49,479
Speaker 2: had the broomstick on the other side. So what ends

1818
01:18:49,520 --> 01:18:52,479
Speaker 2: up happening is, rather than falling backwards or falling to

1819
01:18:52,600 --> 01:18:56,559
Speaker 2: a side, he kind of falls diagonally shatters his knee.

1820
01:18:56,600 --> 01:18:58,720
Speaker 2: I don't think that was intentional, So.

1821
01:18:58,720 --> 01:19:02,160
Speaker 1: Everybody does think it's intentional though, So here's what I'm

1822
01:19:02,160 --> 01:19:05,520
Speaker 1: gonna say. I do believe it's designed to put maximum

1823
01:19:05,520 --> 01:19:09,320
Speaker 1: pressure at that angle. I just think more commonly the

1824
01:19:09,360 --> 01:19:12,599
Speaker 1: reaction that you get is that someone lets it go

1825
01:19:12,680 --> 01:19:14,960
Speaker 1: and then falls to that side. The fact that he

1826
01:19:15,000 --> 01:19:17,559
Speaker 1: had a straight jacket and prevented his arm from even

1827
01:19:18,120 --> 01:19:21,400
Speaker 1: being a poster from hand fighting probably contributed to him

1828
01:19:21,400 --> 01:19:23,720
Speaker 1: one to just plant weight that way. But this is

1829
01:19:23,800 --> 01:19:26,360
Speaker 1: not something I think you can easily repeat at scale.

1830
01:19:26,400 --> 01:19:28,120
Speaker 1: We can get him to fall in this angle, most

1831
01:19:28,160 --> 01:19:31,840
Speaker 1: guys probably won't do that. So intentional in a sense,

1832
01:19:32,680 --> 01:19:34,479
Speaker 1: accidental to an extent in a sense.

1833
01:19:34,800 --> 01:19:37,479
Speaker 2: But the point I wanted to make was BC, he

1834
01:19:37,520 --> 01:19:40,639
Speaker 2: looked pretty good before that too. What do you make

1835
01:19:40,760 --> 01:19:44,080
Speaker 2: of this performance, this finish and maybe the future for

1836
01:19:44,160 --> 01:19:44,920
Speaker 2: tesla ro Tyro.

1837
01:19:45,040 --> 01:19:46,960
Speaker 1: It's bright, It's really bright. He's very happy.

1838
01:19:46,960 --> 01:19:47,120
Speaker 2: Look.

1839
01:19:47,120 --> 01:19:48,400
Speaker 1: I don't know if you've ever heard him yell that

1840
01:19:48,439 --> 01:19:50,599
Speaker 1: into a microphone, how happy he is. Yes, I have

1841
01:19:50,600 --> 01:19:52,720
Speaker 1: a catchphrase, this's what the thing is. Look twenty four

1842
01:19:52,760 --> 01:19:54,160
Speaker 1: years old? Was he six and oh in the UFC

1843
01:19:54,240 --> 01:19:54,439
Speaker 1: right now?

1844
01:19:54,479 --> 01:19:55,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right, sixteen and zero.

1845
01:19:55,720 --> 01:19:57,720
Speaker 1: Overall, I like the striking. I like a lot of

1846
01:19:57,720 --> 01:19:59,080
Speaker 1: what he showed. He did get hit a little bit

1847
01:19:59,120 --> 01:20:00,920
Speaker 1: more than I would have want there against Perez. He

1848
01:20:00,960 --> 01:20:02,040
Speaker 1: was a former title challenger.

1849
01:20:02,120 --> 01:20:04,040
Speaker 2: He's a little he's a little unruly.

1850
01:20:04,320 --> 01:20:06,439
Speaker 1: Sure sure, sure you saw the redness in his face

1851
01:20:06,439 --> 01:20:08,800
Speaker 1: as he was getting lit up. I wouldn't echo what

1852
01:20:08,840 --> 01:20:10,960
Speaker 1: Michael Bisping and said that this was a you know,

1853
01:20:11,080 --> 01:20:14,080
Speaker 1: clean performance from start to finish, but it was.

1854
01:20:14,080 --> 01:20:15,160
Speaker 2: There were some fouls.

1855
01:20:15,280 --> 01:20:17,439
Speaker 1: It was a strong one. And speaking of bis pink,

1856
01:20:17,439 --> 01:20:18,680
Speaker 1: can we just throw out of that tweet here. I

1857
01:20:18,680 --> 01:20:20,880
Speaker 1: don't mean to continue to dunk on old Michael, but uh,

1858
01:20:21,840 --> 01:20:25,280
Speaker 1: somebody jumped in here, Luke, you put that. Yeah, Bisping

1859
01:20:25,360 --> 01:20:27,400
Speaker 1: just told Tyra that was one of the cleanest performances

1860
01:20:27,760 --> 01:20:30,320
Speaker 1: yet he lost the first round. I poked Perez in

1861
01:20:30,360 --> 01:20:32,719
Speaker 1: both the first and second round, and one via injury.

1862
01:20:33,080 --> 01:20:35,639
Speaker 1: H Bisping not my favorite commentator, So I'm taking part

1863
01:20:35,680 --> 01:20:40,280
Speaker 1: in this alley you dunk. But Luke, if I'm going

1864
01:20:40,320 --> 01:20:43,920
Speaker 1: to believe that he caused that injury, then overall, I

1865
01:20:43,920 --> 01:20:45,920
Speaker 1: really like the adjustments he made within this fight, in

1866
01:20:45,960 --> 01:20:48,120
Speaker 1: his ability, you know, to take the back and make

1867
01:20:48,120 --> 01:20:50,519
Speaker 1: that transition, bring that to the ground. This guy's a

1868
01:20:50,560 --> 01:20:53,920
Speaker 1: tough out. I'm thinking title shot sooner than later. Considering

1869
01:20:53,960 --> 01:20:55,920
Speaker 1: where we're at in this division right now, how far

1870
01:20:55,960 --> 01:20:56,840
Speaker 1: away do you think he is?

1871
01:20:56,960 --> 01:20:59,000
Speaker 2: See, I don't think he's far from a title shot

1872
01:20:59,040 --> 01:21:00,960
Speaker 2: in the sense of who is in front of him

1873
01:21:01,040 --> 01:21:03,400
Speaker 2: that is up first or what more.

1874
01:21:03,640 --> 01:21:05,800
Speaker 1: He's fresh meat in the division. That's what this division.

1875
01:21:05,479 --> 01:21:08,280
Speaker 2: Needs, right The problem is he is still green, he

1876
01:21:08,400 --> 01:21:10,840
Speaker 2: is still raw. He's clearly talented. I mean, he's clearly

1877
01:21:10,880 --> 01:21:13,760
Speaker 2: got a lot of ability. It just seems like flyweight

1878
01:21:14,160 --> 01:21:17,360
Speaker 2: might run him quicker to the top of the food

1879
01:21:17,439 --> 01:21:21,920
Speaker 2: chain before his skill set has really matured. And in

1880
01:21:22,000 --> 01:21:23,640
Speaker 2: some sense that's a blessing because it gets you to

1881
01:21:23,720 --> 01:21:25,679
Speaker 2: the title potentially quicker, it gets you to a championship

1882
01:21:25,680 --> 01:21:28,840
Speaker 2: potentially quicker, bigger money, potentially quicker. But at the same time,

1883
01:21:28,880 --> 01:21:30,840
Speaker 2: you're not really getting the full development that you would want.

1884
01:21:31,040 --> 01:21:33,400
Speaker 2: And again that's not me putting any blame on anybody.

1885
01:21:33,479 --> 01:21:34,880
Speaker 2: It just sort of seems to be a function of

1886
01:21:34,880 --> 01:21:37,559
Speaker 2: the circumstances for what they are. But I don't think

1887
01:21:37,600 --> 01:21:39,400
Speaker 2: he's that far But BC, if I had to guess

1888
01:21:39,439 --> 01:21:43,439
Speaker 2: what might be next in terms of a matchup, what

1889
01:21:43,560 --> 01:21:46,559
Speaker 2: about Amir Albasi? He was supposed to buy Brandon Moreno.

1890
01:21:46,680 --> 01:21:48,920
Speaker 2: He had an injury in Mexico City, so that fight

1891
01:21:48,960 --> 01:21:51,599
Speaker 2: got subbed out at the last minute. He has been

1892
01:21:51,600 --> 01:21:53,960
Speaker 2: on a tear in this division. He's got a well

1893
01:21:54,040 --> 01:21:56,240
Speaker 2: rounded skill set, particularly with the wrestling and sort of

1894
01:21:56,280 --> 01:21:59,760
Speaker 2: like top control grappling at a bare minimum. It would

1895
01:21:59,800 --> 01:22:03,160
Speaker 2: so who really deserves to ascend And even if Tyra lost,

1896
01:22:03,640 --> 01:22:04,840
Speaker 2: that's gonna be one of those fights that would be

1897
01:22:04,880 --> 01:22:06,960
Speaker 2: a really good learning experience for him just the same.

1898
01:22:07,040 --> 01:22:08,640
Speaker 2: I actually love that fight if they can make it.

1899
01:22:08,760 --> 01:22:10,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm trying to open up the rankings here on

1900
01:22:10,479 --> 01:22:12,120
Speaker 1: my phone, Luke, and I'm having a lot of issues

1901
01:22:12,320 --> 01:22:13,200
Speaker 1: with the technology here.

1902
01:22:13,280 --> 01:22:14,559
Speaker 2: Let me pull it up for you and on one

1903
01:22:14,600 --> 01:22:17,280
Speaker 2: twenty five right, Yeah, so PANTOJS champion.

1904
01:22:17,400 --> 01:22:17,639
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1905
01:22:17,680 --> 01:22:21,599
Speaker 2: One is Rouville, Two is Moreno, three Albazi, four Kaikar France,

1906
01:22:21,600 --> 01:22:23,920
Speaker 2: who does have a fight against Ersek coming up. Five

1907
01:22:24,000 --> 01:22:26,720
Speaker 2: is Padez. Six Muhammed Makayev is another fun one that

1908
01:22:26,760 --> 01:22:27,080
Speaker 2: could do.

1909
01:22:27,240 --> 01:22:30,320
Speaker 1: I think, look, I think Mokaiev is and this.

1910
01:22:30,200 --> 01:22:33,120
Speaker 2: Is without by the way, this is without the changes.

1911
01:22:33,400 --> 01:22:36,439
Speaker 2: So Tyra hasn't been officially re ranked yet. They're very quickly.

1912
01:22:36,520 --> 01:22:40,839
Speaker 2: Seven is menil Cop eight, Nicolaut nine, Erseg ten Elliott.

1913
01:22:40,880 --> 01:22:44,080
Speaker 2: I think Erseg is underrated, so there's a few of

1914
01:22:44,120 --> 01:22:45,840
Speaker 2: these we could do. I think menel Cop has a

1915
01:22:45,840 --> 01:22:48,840
Speaker 2: fight coming up, so he's booked. But dude, you get

1916
01:22:48,880 --> 01:22:50,840
Speaker 2: a fight with Albazi or the winner of Kaikar France

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Speaker 2: and Erseg, you got to think that he.

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Speaker 1: Needs one more big one. Pez is a great name

1919
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Speaker 1: for the former title challenger, and the way he did

1920
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Speaker 1: it opened some eyes. He's got the wind streak, he's

1921
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Speaker 1: got the youth, the idea of of resurgence in Japanese

1922
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Speaker 1: Mma Luke that you talked about in the lead into

1923
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Speaker 1: this fight. But I think kai Kar France, if he

1924
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Speaker 1: gets back by Erseg in that fight in Perth, could

1925
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Speaker 1: have the inside track. I also think Makayev deserves it

1926
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Speaker 1: ahead of him. But when you look at this division,

1927
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Speaker 1: Roy falls a number one con tender, but he's already

1928
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Speaker 1: lost twice to the champion, right, so that's gonna be

1929
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Speaker 1: hard for him to get back over the top. Right.

1930
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Speaker 1: Er Seg coming in there after three fights because the

1931
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Speaker 1: title shot nearly gets it done. Do you think can

1932
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Speaker 1: get back into position for a rematch because of how

1933
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Speaker 1: close the Pantosia fight was. If he beats KKF, yes,

1934
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Speaker 1: so this division is pretty interesting. I still look at

1935
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Speaker 1: Mohammed Makaya as as the biggest wildcard.

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Speaker 2: I think he's coming along really well. I just don't

1937
01:23:39,200 --> 01:23:43,160
Speaker 2: see enough offense. Yeah, that's my issue with him.

1938
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Speaker 1: Speaking of those two ipokes, we do get a lot

1939
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Speaker 1: of people the Gloves.

1940
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Speaker 2: Okay, we're only well a few weeks into the three

1941
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Speaker 2: three events. Basically, let me say this about the Gloves.

1942
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Speaker 2: Apparently R J Clifford, who is the producer for the

1943
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Speaker 2: UFC way In show. Yes, a friend of mine as well,

1944
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Speaker 2: shouts s RJ Clifford, the radio host. Right, that's how

1945
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Speaker 2: actually I got started. I did a radio show with

1946
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Speaker 2: him to start at Serious XM, and then we you know,

1947
01:24:06,800 --> 01:24:09,280
Speaker 2: work together for some time. But he told me on

1948
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Speaker 2: Twitter yesterday that the UFC is apparently very closely monitoring

1949
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Speaker 2: not just for the ipokes, but there have been I

1950
01:24:16,080 --> 01:24:20,800
Speaker 2: think three knockouts in three fights, which is not good, right,

1951
01:24:20,920 --> 01:24:21,639
Speaker 2: something absurd?

1952
01:24:21,760 --> 01:24:23,960
Speaker 1: Wait three, you're saying since the new Gloves there's been

1953
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Speaker 1: three knockouts in three full fight cards.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, something like that. Maybe maybe it's four, but gaft

1955
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Speaker 2: and uh no, Cita, can you double check that please,

1956
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Speaker 2: We'll double check it. But I want to say one

1957
01:24:34,479 --> 01:24:36,599
Speaker 2: of them was with like a knee strike, so they're

1958
01:24:36,640 --> 01:24:38,639
Speaker 2: not counting that way right, So it's it's like it's

1959
01:24:38,640 --> 01:24:41,000
Speaker 2: like a minority handful. The point I'm trying to make

1960
01:24:41,040 --> 01:24:48,400
Speaker 2: is this, we don't have enough information right now as

1961
01:24:48,400 --> 01:24:51,479
Speaker 2: it stands as of the recording of this show. We

1962
01:24:51,600 --> 01:24:56,160
Speaker 2: simply don't have enough of a sample size. However, do

1963
01:24:56,200 --> 01:24:59,320
Speaker 2: you remember when they introduced the gloves and they were like, oh,

1964
01:24:59,360 --> 01:25:01,919
Speaker 2: we've tested the a little bit and the results were encouraging,

1965
01:25:02,479 --> 01:25:04,479
Speaker 2: and I was like, yeah, right, let's see what the

1966
01:25:04,479 --> 01:25:08,280
Speaker 2: tests actually look like in the field again. We need

1967
01:25:08,320 --> 01:25:10,320
Speaker 2: to wait and see what happens. We could get an

1968
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Speaker 2: event next week. B see this' UFC Saudi Arabia event,

1969
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Speaker 2: and all of a sudden, we're getting nothing but knockouts.

1970
01:25:16,080 --> 01:25:18,800
Speaker 2: So let's hold our horses for just a second. But

1971
01:25:18,880 --> 01:25:21,799
Speaker 2: if it does turn out that they actually do impact

1972
01:25:22,479 --> 01:25:25,360
Speaker 2: knockouts negatively and that they don't do anything to meaningfully

1973
01:25:25,479 --> 01:25:28,240
Speaker 2: cut out ipokes, I'm gonna say it one more time.

1974
01:25:28,600 --> 01:25:31,599
Speaker 2: The UFC rolls out stuff all the time, whether it's

1975
01:25:31,800 --> 01:25:36,639
Speaker 2: rebock new equipment without ever getting any kind of real,

1976
01:25:37,080 --> 01:25:40,920
Speaker 2: meaningful fighter input. They're signing deals like this is the

1977
01:25:40,960 --> 01:25:45,840
Speaker 2: official morning coffee of the UFC. This is the official jockstrap,

1978
01:25:45,880 --> 01:25:48,600
Speaker 2: This is the officials. This is the official backscrubber of

1979
01:25:48,640 --> 01:25:53,200
Speaker 2: the UFC Cryptkeeper Crypto Keeper without fully vetting it. These

1980
01:25:53,240 --> 01:25:56,120
Speaker 2: are the results you're gonna inevitably get. So so so

1981
01:25:56,600 --> 01:25:58,240
Speaker 2: we don't know what's going to happen.

1982
01:25:58,479 --> 01:26:00,559
Speaker 1: Let's see, Why don't we just try to ever Whiman's

1983
01:26:00,560 --> 01:26:01,840
Speaker 1: gloves when I come in the next card and just

1984
01:26:01,840 --> 01:26:02,679
Speaker 1: see if those are better?

1985
01:26:02,720 --> 01:26:04,960
Speaker 2: I mean, come on, there are simpler solutions, even the

1986
01:26:05,000 --> 01:26:07,840
Speaker 2: old belt or power lock glove. You remember the power Lot glove. No,

1987
01:26:07,960 --> 01:26:10,479
Speaker 2: it would if I held if I held up the

1988
01:26:10,520 --> 01:26:12,640
Speaker 2: UFC glove would be flat like this, or like a

1989
01:26:12,640 --> 01:26:15,000
Speaker 2: single panel. If I held up the power Lot glove,

1990
01:26:15,040 --> 01:26:18,320
Speaker 2: it'd be hooked like this, So it naturally had this

1991
01:26:18,479 --> 01:26:21,080
Speaker 2: kind of forcing your knuckles over motion.

1992
01:26:21,720 --> 01:26:23,519
Speaker 1: Can't you just I've said this before, but I think

1993
01:26:23,520 --> 01:26:26,479
Speaker 1: it's right. Separate from the gloves, the idea that so

1994
01:26:26,479 --> 01:26:29,360
Speaker 1: many fighters are trying to block or gain distance with

1995
01:26:29,400 --> 01:26:31,920
Speaker 1: their fingers out, which is causing this, right, why don't

1996
01:26:31,920 --> 01:26:34,559
Speaker 1: you take a point away when you poke somebody, and

1997
01:26:34,600 --> 01:26:36,400
Speaker 1: then that will force you to not do that. Is

1998
01:26:36,439 --> 01:26:37,559
Speaker 1: that too easy?

1999
01:26:37,680 --> 01:26:39,400
Speaker 2: I don't know. Also, one thing I want to say,

2000
01:26:39,600 --> 01:26:42,679
Speaker 2: would you be against that, knowing how I've been saying,

2001
01:26:42,720 --> 01:26:45,080
Speaker 2: I don't care, I don't Those are the fucking rules.

2002
01:26:44,800 --> 01:26:47,120
Speaker 1: So then enforce them. I know the UFC doesn't have

2003
01:26:47,160 --> 01:26:49,760
Speaker 1: direct oversight on that because it's the commission, but enforce it.

2004
01:26:49,880 --> 01:26:52,400
Speaker 2: I will say, if they did make gloves that did

2005
01:26:52,520 --> 01:26:57,559
Speaker 2: meaningfully reduce ipokes, again, can't eliminate them. The goal would

2006
01:26:57,560 --> 01:27:00,360
Speaker 2: be too meaningfully reduce the number that that would be

2007
01:27:00,400 --> 01:27:03,880
Speaker 2: a more That would be a simpler solution than trying

2008
01:27:03,920 --> 01:27:07,200
Speaker 2: to solve officiating issues. So I actually would love the

2009
01:27:07,240 --> 01:27:09,439
Speaker 2: UFC if they could do that rather than trying to

2010
01:27:09,479 --> 01:27:11,280
Speaker 2: fix it on the back end. But I guess the

2011
01:27:11,280 --> 01:27:12,560
Speaker 2: point I'm trying to make is I looked at the

2012
01:27:12,600 --> 01:27:16,320
Speaker 2: company that did the redesign for the gloves. To my knowledge,

2013
01:27:16,320 --> 01:27:18,839
Speaker 2: this is their first time in the in the combative

2014
01:27:18,840 --> 01:27:23,200
Speaker 2: glove experience. Are They design helmets and they designed face

2015
01:27:23,240 --> 01:27:25,720
Speaker 2: masks for American football. They do more than that, but

2016
01:27:25,760 --> 01:27:29,160
Speaker 2: that's their primary sort of work that they do. And

2017
01:27:29,200 --> 01:27:32,080
Speaker 2: I'm beginning to wonder what expertise they had and what

2018
01:27:32,160 --> 01:27:35,000
Speaker 2: information they took in to build these gloves. Again, if

2019
01:27:35,000 --> 01:27:37,600
Speaker 2: in fact, long term we have data to show that

2020
01:27:37,640 --> 01:27:41,160
Speaker 2: they don't improve ipokes and they meaningfully reduced knockouts'll have

2021
01:27:41,240 --> 01:27:45,439
Speaker 2: to see. We have thirty seven fights so far and

2022
01:27:45,479 --> 01:27:49,560
Speaker 2: only two KOs due to strike, right, not a great percentage,

2023
01:27:49,600 --> 01:27:52,760
Speaker 2: but again that's not a big enough sample size to

2024
01:27:52,920 --> 01:27:54,360
Speaker 2: really make a full judgment.

2025
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2027
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2029
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Speaker 2: There was a ton of MMA that happened.

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Speaker 1: I grew up right near Mohegan Sun, and I didn't

2031
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Speaker 1: consider it a destination.

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2104
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Speaker 2: taking ass.

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Speaker 2: Square, I did not recall correctly. He looked to be

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Speaker 2: more out upon further review than even.

2109
01:31:42,040 --> 01:31:43,759
Speaker 1: Multiple replays, I still can't.

2110
01:31:44,439 --> 01:31:47,160
Speaker 2: Didn't hear he admit he was out at the postfight press.

2111
01:31:47,200 --> 01:31:48,920
Speaker 1: Oh that's right. I forgot about that.

2112
01:31:48,800 --> 01:31:50,880
Speaker 2: So it doesn't look like he was super out. But

2113
01:31:50,920 --> 01:31:52,320
Speaker 2: I think he even acknowledged that was.

2114
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Speaker 1: Kind of Sometimes so many fight cards come and go,

2115
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Speaker 1: you forget what happens, and I'm rewatching it.

2116
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Speaker 2: I'm going, okay, I know, and he didn't put up

2117
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2118
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Speaker 2: take an enormous amount of abuse. If people think you

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2120
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2121
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2122
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2123
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2128
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Speaker 2: try that.

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01:32:28,200 --> 01:32:29,439
Speaker 1: I really love that idea.

2130
01:32:29,479 --> 01:32:31,160
Speaker 2: All right, why don't we Why don't we pause the

2131
01:32:31,240 --> 01:32:33,640
Speaker 2: UFC Saudi Arabia talk for today and then we'll just

2132
01:32:33,680 --> 01:32:37,919
Speaker 2: do a podcast devoted to UFC Saudi Arabia like later.

2133
01:32:37,720 --> 01:32:38,040
Speaker 1: In the week.

2134
01:32:38,120 --> 01:32:38,720
Speaker 2: Later in the week.

2135
01:32:39,000 --> 01:32:40,720
Speaker 1: I think we deserve that. Hey, no female fights on

2136
01:32:40,720 --> 01:32:43,000
Speaker 1: that card must be a coincidence.

2137
01:32:43,080 --> 01:32:45,439
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, I will say one thing about that

2138
01:32:45,479 --> 01:32:47,439
Speaker 2: card that I'm kind to be looking forward to. And again,

2139
01:32:47,479 --> 01:32:49,280
Speaker 2: no one cares about the sports washing anymore. I realize

2140
01:32:49,280 --> 01:32:52,160
Speaker 2: everything is just infotam in twenty four to seven washing

2141
01:32:53,439 --> 01:32:56,439
Speaker 2: on occasion with Manscape. Yeah, what I was gonna say

2142
01:32:56,479 --> 01:32:59,200
Speaker 2: was that show is going to be on ABC. Yes,

2143
01:32:59,640 --> 01:33:01,680
Speaker 2: I want wonder to what extent there's going to be

2144
01:33:01,760 --> 01:33:05,800
Speaker 2: any Mohammed Ben Solman, that's the NBS. I wonder if

2145
01:33:05,800 --> 01:33:10,920
Speaker 2: there's going to be any NBS Uhland on the broadcast itself.

2146
01:33:10,760 --> 01:33:13,400
Speaker 1: Because the only one to do that so far was WWE.

2147
01:33:13,280 --> 01:33:15,720
Speaker 2: No, no, no no. They did it at one of

2148
01:33:15,760 --> 01:33:18,120
Speaker 2: the Anganu fights I can't remember which one it was,

2149
01:33:18,320 --> 01:33:21,120
Speaker 2: whether it was Joshua or Fury where they were Bruce

2150
01:33:21,160 --> 01:33:24,679
Speaker 2: Buffer thanked him by name, No, not Bruce, the Michael

2151
01:33:24,680 --> 01:33:26,280
Speaker 2: Buffer name.

2152
01:33:26,400 --> 01:33:30,160
Speaker 1: Ww ran like three minute promos. Oh really about like

2153
01:33:30,520 --> 01:33:32,400
Speaker 1: life in Saudi Arabia and all that stuff?

2154
01:33:32,439 --> 01:33:33,439
Speaker 2: Yeah this journalists and Joe.

2155
01:33:33,600 --> 01:33:35,400
Speaker 1: All right, well then that will wrap up our topics

2156
01:33:35,560 --> 01:33:37,680
Speaker 1: for the week. We got two more great segments for

2157
01:33:37,760 --> 01:33:39,640
Speaker 1: you to calm and the next one is where the

2158
01:33:39,680 --> 01:33:41,840
Speaker 1: fans get their real quickly?

2159
01:33:42,040 --> 01:33:45,000
Speaker 2: What level of interest in the Saudi card?

2160
01:33:45,600 --> 01:33:46,200
Speaker 1: Monstrous?

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01:33:46,320 --> 01:33:46,559
Speaker 2: Really?

2162
01:33:46,840 --> 01:33:48,880
Speaker 1: I love this card on paper, I really do.

2163
01:33:49,000 --> 01:33:50,800
Speaker 2: Okay, outside of the main event, you have a fight

2164
01:33:50,840 --> 01:33:52,519
Speaker 2: that really speaks to you the most.

2165
01:33:52,600 --> 01:33:53,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've got a few of them. Let me call

2166
01:33:53,920 --> 01:33:54,160
Speaker 1: it up.

2167
01:33:54,760 --> 01:33:56,920
Speaker 2: Is interesting. It's Pavlovich and I thought we.

2168
01:33:56,800 --> 01:34:00,439
Speaker 1: Were in previewing this look gaslm D. I know it's

2169
01:34:00,439 --> 01:34:02,240
Speaker 1: not for high stakes, but you know I love that fight. Okay,

2170
01:34:02,479 --> 01:34:04,080
Speaker 1: that's the I care about, the one, the one I

2171
01:34:04,160 --> 01:34:06,599
Speaker 1: love for action. Okay, maybe these don't have high significance.

2172
01:34:06,640 --> 01:34:08,519
Speaker 1: Johnny Walker Volcanos Demir, I'm all in.

2173
01:34:08,680 --> 01:34:11,800
Speaker 2: That's got in, dude, that's got Someone's gonna slip on

2174
01:34:11,840 --> 01:34:14,040
Speaker 2: a banana peel and paralyze themselves.

2175
01:34:14,360 --> 01:34:17,960
Speaker 1: I've written a paralyzation. Okay, look it's not an A

2176
01:34:18,080 --> 01:34:20,920
Speaker 1: plus card, but it's a very good card. Kicking off

2177
01:34:20,960 --> 01:34:23,960
Speaker 1: Saudi Inn ABC, Shara Bullet has my attention.

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01:34:24,040 --> 01:34:24,679
Speaker 2: That's a big one.

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01:34:24,840 --> 01:34:27,040
Speaker 1: He's in the featured prelimbit event there. What do you

2180
01:34:27,080 --> 01:34:29,280
Speaker 1: know about his opponent? Uh, maybe we'll save that for.

2181
01:34:29,479 --> 01:34:31,519
Speaker 2: We'll save that for the subsequent podcast.

2182
01:34:31,520 --> 01:34:33,439
Speaker 1: All right, what we do every Sunday night here on

2183
01:34:33,479 --> 01:34:36,280
Speaker 1: our Instagram at morning combat as we put a call

2184
01:34:36,320 --> 01:34:39,800
Speaker 1: out to you listeners to get your questions answered directly. Yes,

2185
01:34:40,040 --> 01:34:43,960
Speaker 1: this is one. It's called DMS from them.

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01:34:44,560 --> 01:34:47,559
Speaker 2: All right, we need let me just let me say something. Please,

2187
01:34:48,240 --> 01:34:50,040
Speaker 2: no c can you please come to the microphone.

2188
01:34:50,040 --> 01:34:52,040
Speaker 1: So it's long island Luke. That's what I'm here.

2189
01:34:53,439 --> 01:34:57,759
Speaker 2: We need no more donkey ejaculating noises. That's that's number one.

2190
01:34:58,160 --> 01:35:01,040
Speaker 2: We need the Friday Show and Friday Show. We need

2191
01:35:01,080 --> 01:35:03,400
Speaker 2: a hip hop sound for one one of us dunks

2192
01:35:03,400 --> 01:35:08,719
Speaker 2: on the other one, and we need a new opening trailer.

2193
01:35:09,120 --> 01:35:11,160
Speaker 2: We need a nineties counter too. I'll add it to

2194
01:35:11,200 --> 01:35:12,080
Speaker 2: the list. Get on it?

2195
01:35:12,080 --> 01:35:14,040
Speaker 1: Can we get Can we get on Friday Show? When

2196
01:35:14,120 --> 01:35:16,519
Speaker 1: Luke said, cheewee, weeees, can we get that as well?

2197
01:35:16,520 --> 01:35:19,479
Speaker 2: Please, yes, chee, we know we need what do they

2198
01:35:19,520 --> 01:35:21,240
Speaker 2: used to call those things where you could hit the buttons?

2199
01:35:21,520 --> 01:35:22,080
Speaker 2: What was it called?

2200
01:35:22,560 --> 01:35:22,680
Speaker 3: Oh?

2201
01:35:22,720 --> 01:35:25,040
Speaker 2: No, the sal machine? But the sal machine has a

2202
01:35:25,120 --> 01:35:27,200
Speaker 2: name in radio. It's called the three sixty incidentt replay.

2203
01:35:27,240 --> 01:35:29,120
Speaker 2: That's what you have to have. Okay, we need a

2204
01:35:29,120 --> 01:35:30,160
Speaker 2: three sixty inciant replay.

2205
01:35:30,160 --> 01:35:31,840
Speaker 1: Were you a big Miami Sound Machine fan.

2206
01:35:31,720 --> 01:35:34,680
Speaker 2: In the eighties, Gloria Stefan, Yeah, I'm gon wanted a

2207
01:35:34,680 --> 01:35:35,519
Speaker 2: banger or something.

2208
01:35:36,160 --> 01:35:37,559
Speaker 1: Did the rhythm d getting you or no?

2209
01:35:37,760 --> 01:35:40,960
Speaker 2: No? You know, but I didn't come to understanding the

2210
01:35:42,240 --> 01:35:44,559
Speaker 2: now it just seems so self evidently obvious. But I

2211
01:35:44,560 --> 01:35:47,479
Speaker 2: didn't understand Latin women. Latin women until later in life.

2212
01:35:47,720 --> 01:35:49,680
Speaker 1: I still don't understand them. I'm really big on like

2213
01:35:49,680 --> 01:35:51,400
Speaker 1: Eastern Europeans and future waitresses.

2214
01:35:51,520 --> 01:35:53,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, they yell at you a lot, but it's great.

2215
01:35:53,560 --> 01:35:55,160
Speaker 1: All right, there you go. All right, Hey, let's go

2216
01:35:55,200 --> 01:35:57,240
Speaker 1: to these dms from Donks. Number one is coming to

2217
01:35:57,320 --> 01:36:01,000
Speaker 1: us from that Sean Moore Okay, not to be confused

2218
01:36:01,000 --> 01:36:02,880
Speaker 1: with the other Sean More's who in the history of

2219
01:36:02,880 --> 01:36:05,200
Speaker 1: boxing has been like Tank It just seems like once

2220
01:36:05,200 --> 01:36:08,679
Speaker 1: he figures you out, your consciousness is a ticking time

2221
01:36:08,760 --> 01:36:12,800
Speaker 1: Bob Bomb. Just curious to see historical comparisons or if

2222
01:36:12,800 --> 01:36:14,599
Speaker 1: he's unic I thought about this after.

2223
01:36:14,840 --> 01:36:17,519
Speaker 2: The ones everyone says are Mike Tyson because of how

2224
01:36:17,600 --> 01:36:18,559
Speaker 2: rapidly he can.

2225
01:36:18,439 --> 01:36:21,200
Speaker 1: Write, But really he fights nothing like Mike. I think,

2226
01:36:21,240 --> 01:36:23,519
Speaker 1: if you're looking for it's kind of weird. He kind

2227
01:36:23,520 --> 01:36:26,519
Speaker 1: of combines two different elements in my opinion, crazy to

2228
01:36:26,560 --> 01:36:28,880
Speaker 1: say this Canelo Alvarez and Floyd Mayweather at the same

2229
01:36:28,880 --> 01:36:31,719
Speaker 1: time in a sense where he fights a lot like Canelo,

2230
01:36:32,200 --> 01:36:34,519
Speaker 1: in the sense that he's very efficient, doesn't waste punches,

2231
01:36:34,920 --> 01:36:38,320
Speaker 1: looks kind of crowds you with pressure, but really looks

2232
01:36:38,320 --> 01:36:40,280
Speaker 1: to line up that one perfect punch that's going to

2233
01:36:40,320 --> 01:36:42,080
Speaker 1: turn the course of the fight. He's got more power

2234
01:36:42,120 --> 01:36:45,040
Speaker 1: than Canelo does for his own division. But from the

2235
01:36:45,080 --> 01:36:47,800
Speaker 1: Floyd Mayweather standpoint, Luke, there is that comparison to the

2236
01:36:47,840 --> 01:36:51,360
Speaker 1: idea of once he figures you out, the fight is over.

2237
01:36:51,640 --> 01:36:52,200
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

2238
01:36:52,360 --> 01:36:54,920
Speaker 2: The question is an mm A comparison. Oh it wasn't

2239
01:36:55,120 --> 01:36:57,400
Speaker 2: mass So yeah, So the question we're going to we're

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01:36:57,400 --> 01:36:58,960
Speaker 2: going to we're getting a text now from one of

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01:36:59,000 --> 01:37:01,280
Speaker 2: our producers, which is they had to cut out the

2242
01:37:01,280 --> 01:37:04,599
Speaker 2: full question on the graphic. But the question is who

2243
01:37:04,640 --> 01:37:08,880
Speaker 2: does Tank remind you of in MMA and the lower

2244
01:37:08,880 --> 01:37:11,599
Speaker 2: weight classes? Nobody, Well, doesn't have to be lower weight classes.

2245
01:37:11,600 --> 01:37:13,920
Speaker 1: They're coming from the standpoint of like, once he figures

2246
01:37:13,920 --> 01:37:15,439
Speaker 1: you out and lands the bomb, the fight's over.

2247
01:37:15,760 --> 01:37:22,599
Speaker 2: Who is that There's no one as ruthless a puncher

2248
01:37:22,640 --> 01:37:25,640
Speaker 2: as him.

2249
01:37:25,680 --> 01:37:27,439
Speaker 1: Well, there's a lot of ruthless punchers, but are they

2250
01:37:27,479 --> 01:37:30,960
Speaker 1: as efficient and calculated to where they're setting up that one?

2251
01:37:31,080 --> 01:37:33,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's I'm not saying he's a unicorn, but like

2252
01:37:33,880 --> 01:37:39,519
Speaker 2: the obvious MMA analogue doesn't naturally pop up like BJ

2253
01:37:39,720 --> 01:37:42,160
Speaker 2: Penn in his prime had a little bit of that,

2254
01:37:42,400 --> 01:37:45,000
Speaker 2: but not really. He wasn't the dominant puncher in that way,

2255
01:37:45,920 --> 01:37:48,520
Speaker 2: and he wasn't as super efficient as what you're describing.

2256
01:37:49,760 --> 01:37:52,160
Speaker 2: They don't really exist like that. They're more like heavyweight

2257
01:37:52,240 --> 01:37:53,320
Speaker 2: or are you know, bigger weighted guys.

2258
01:37:53,360 --> 01:37:55,760
Speaker 1: There's something very unique about the complete package of what

2259
01:37:55,760 --> 01:37:56,040
Speaker 1: he says.

2260
01:37:56,080 --> 01:37:58,960
Speaker 2: Tank is special, dude, He like the guys special to

2261
01:38:00,000 --> 01:38:01,640
Speaker 2: tattoo he has on his back like I wouldn't want

2262
01:38:01,640 --> 01:38:04,880
Speaker 2: the word Baltimore written on my back obviously, But it's

2263
01:38:04,880 --> 01:38:05,919
Speaker 2: an elite tattoo.

2264
01:38:05,960 --> 01:38:07,479
Speaker 1: I mean, you have a DC flag on your forarm,

2265
01:38:07,520 --> 01:38:09,519
Speaker 1: so it's not like it's it's a foreign concept to you.

2266
01:38:09,640 --> 01:38:14,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's the word Baltimore. Like, who the fuck

2267
01:38:14,560 --> 01:38:16,160
Speaker 2: wants that? I mean, Tank Davis can get away with

2268
01:38:16,240 --> 01:38:18,559
Speaker 2: it for any number of reasons, but yeah, I wouldn't

2269
01:38:18,560 --> 01:38:20,240
Speaker 2: want Baltimore ripping in Baltimore.

2270
01:38:20,240 --> 01:38:22,080
Speaker 1: Do you think cal Ripken and Brady Anderson were really

2271
01:38:22,080 --> 01:38:22,519
Speaker 1: an item?

2272
01:38:22,560 --> 01:38:25,320
Speaker 2: That's the room, Oh, our producer saying this is Ilia

2273
01:38:25,439 --> 01:38:28,320
Speaker 2: a good comparison. Ilia to me is a little more

2274
01:38:28,360 --> 01:38:29,280
Speaker 2: canelo ish.

2275
01:38:29,320 --> 01:38:29,960
Speaker 1: That's interesting.

2276
01:38:30,760 --> 01:38:32,680
Speaker 2: He's a little bit more combo puncher in that way.

2277
01:38:33,720 --> 01:38:36,320
Speaker 1: Hey, Long Island, Look, can you toss to this tweet?

2278
01:38:36,640 --> 01:38:38,400
Speaker 1: It was Father's Day, so I was reading all the

2279
01:38:38,400 --> 01:38:40,680
Speaker 1: tributes online. Elia put out a great tribute. He's like,

2280
01:38:40,680 --> 01:38:43,679
Speaker 1: I want to adress this my gratitude to this person

2281
01:38:43,760 --> 01:38:46,760
Speaker 1: for providing me with everything I have, for supporting me,

2282
01:38:47,160 --> 01:38:48,200
Speaker 1: and I can't. It's a little bit.

2283
01:38:49,200 --> 01:38:51,360
Speaker 2: I'll do it. I have the supporting me to withstand

2284
01:38:51,400 --> 01:38:53,800
Speaker 2: any circumstance and for never losing faith in God and

2285
01:38:53,840 --> 01:38:56,679
Speaker 2: in the attraction of all good things to me, always

2286
01:38:56,760 --> 01:38:59,640
Speaker 2: relying on me and giving me the life I now

2287
01:38:59,720 --> 01:39:03,280
Speaker 2: enjoy today. I want to thank myself for all the

2288
01:39:03,360 --> 01:39:08,400
Speaker 2: times I've respected myself, loved myself, forgiven myself. Long live

2289
01:39:08,439 --> 01:39:11,280
Speaker 2: the Matador that lives inside me. I will always be

2290
01:39:11,320 --> 01:39:14,160
Speaker 2: proud and with a smile on my face remembering all that.

2291
01:39:14,240 --> 01:39:17,120
Speaker 1: I have a comment with yourself, Long Island. Look, you

2292
01:39:17,200 --> 01:39:19,120
Speaker 1: had an idea of who actually wrote that tweet, right,

2293
01:39:19,680 --> 01:39:21,479
Speaker 1: I thought it was from Luke's personal Twitter.

2294
01:39:22,360 --> 01:39:25,200
Speaker 2: Hey, fuck your fuck your life. How about that about

2295
01:39:25,240 --> 01:39:27,559
Speaker 2: all y'all? Fuck y'all everyone back there is laughing at

2296
01:39:27,600 --> 01:39:29,960
Speaker 2: point Amy, You're all dead to me? How about that?

2297
01:39:30,040 --> 01:39:33,080
Speaker 2: There you go. I read that and I was like, Okay,

2298
01:39:33,120 --> 01:39:36,040
Speaker 2: I finally get the criticism. I finally understand it.

2299
01:39:36,160 --> 01:39:38,320
Speaker 1: All those real Madrid fans are so fake.

2300
01:39:39,080 --> 01:39:41,639
Speaker 2: You're fake. How about that Connecticut's not a real place.

2301
01:39:42,400 --> 01:39:44,080
Speaker 2: It's just a porta John. It's the Porta John in

2302
01:39:44,080 --> 01:39:44,759
Speaker 2: the United States.

2303
01:39:44,920 --> 01:39:47,240
Speaker 1: It's not true. That's northern New Jersey. You know that?

2304
01:39:47,320 --> 01:39:50,040
Speaker 1: All right? Come on right? Yeah? I think our entire

2305
01:39:50,080 --> 01:39:53,240
Speaker 1: staff is from New Jersey. Probably, I don't know. Keep here.

2306
01:39:53,360 --> 01:39:55,519
Speaker 1: Number two is from gaff Pierre. Isn't that the.

2307
01:39:57,479 --> 01:39:58,559
Speaker 2: Astroturfing it.

2308
01:39:58,920 --> 01:40:01,600
Speaker 1: Gaff says, does Tank officially have the heaviest hands in

2309
01:40:01,680 --> 01:40:04,920
Speaker 1: boxing since or does in new way have something? So

2310
01:40:05,000 --> 01:40:07,240
Speaker 1: you're basically saying yeah, in a way, can fucking the

2311
01:40:07,240 --> 01:40:09,880
Speaker 1: boxers today? Who is pumped for palm the biggest puncher.

2312
01:40:09,920 --> 01:40:10,920
Speaker 1: That's a great question.

2313
01:40:11,600 --> 01:40:14,479
Speaker 2: While there is in a way start one one fifteen,

2314
01:40:14,560 --> 01:40:15,799
Speaker 2: one twelve start.

2315
01:40:15,640 --> 01:40:19,440
Speaker 1: He's in his fourth waight division, he's at one twenty two.

2316
01:40:19,520 --> 01:40:24,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, ab around one twelve. He can fucking punch man,

2317
01:40:24,160 --> 01:40:26,760
Speaker 2: He can punch. He's efficient like that too.

2318
01:40:27,200 --> 01:40:29,479
Speaker 1: The thing is when Tank does land that one single punch,

2319
01:40:29,520 --> 01:40:31,880
Speaker 1: the fight's over. Like that's that's that's what's happening fight

2320
01:40:31,920 --> 01:40:34,120
Speaker 1: after fight. It's like that one big punch is ending it.

2321
01:40:34,160 --> 01:40:34,439
Speaker 1: You know what.

2322
01:40:34,479 --> 01:40:36,000
Speaker 2: I'll say this though, that's what in a way has

2323
01:40:36,000 --> 01:40:38,080
Speaker 2: done it. Not not in the same overall way, but

2324
01:40:38,120 --> 01:40:39,560
Speaker 2: in the last few fights, that's what he's done. I

2325
01:40:39,560 --> 01:40:41,800
Speaker 2: mean against Luis one punched him.

2326
01:40:41,800 --> 01:40:44,120
Speaker 1: We don't consider better Beef, who has ridiculous power and

2327
01:40:44,120 --> 01:40:46,439
Speaker 1: has knocked out every opponent he's faced. It's not like

2328
01:40:46,560 --> 01:40:48,479
Speaker 1: always one punch. It's like he just kind of uses

2329
01:40:48,520 --> 01:40:50,840
Speaker 1: his technique to bully wear you down. And then just

2330
01:40:50,840 --> 01:40:51,960
Speaker 1: brutally gets you out of there.

2331
01:40:52,080 --> 01:40:52,400
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2332
01:40:52,479 --> 01:40:55,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, Tank has the one punch ability that he has

2333
01:40:55,400 --> 01:40:57,679
Speaker 1: very few peers. I don't think any anybody punches harder

2334
01:40:57,680 --> 01:40:58,880
Speaker 1: than Wild there. But he's kind of on the way

2335
01:40:58,880 --> 01:40:59,519
Speaker 1: out at the moment.

2336
01:40:59,600 --> 01:41:03,320
Speaker 2: Well, I mean he's he is as cooked as a fucking.

2337
01:41:03,520 --> 01:41:05,720
Speaker 1: Tanking in a newe might be the I mean, who

2338
01:41:05,760 --> 01:41:07,840
Speaker 1: we missed. We got to be missing somebody massive here.

2339
01:41:07,920 --> 01:41:10,360
Speaker 2: It was a dominant puncher in their weight class.

2340
01:41:10,439 --> 01:41:12,000
Speaker 1: Pro but it's a big punch or too.

2341
01:41:12,000 --> 01:41:13,599
Speaker 2: But but it's a big puncher, but not quite like that.

2342
01:41:13,920 --> 01:41:15,880
Speaker 2: Ti Fimous got the big punch, but not quite like that.

2343
01:41:16,960 --> 01:41:20,439
Speaker 2: Even David Benavidez not like that. Canelo's any Joshua was

2344
01:41:20,439 --> 01:41:23,280
Speaker 2: a great finisher. He's got some big poppy of course heavyweight,

2345
01:41:23,320 --> 01:41:25,599
Speaker 2: so that's a little bit different. Yeah, those guys are unicorns, man,

2346
01:41:25,640 --> 01:41:26,680
Speaker 2: are pretty close to it.

2347
01:41:26,760 --> 01:41:29,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, indeed, indeed love him on there. Let's keep the

2348
01:41:29,040 --> 01:41:30,839
Speaker 1: train going here. This is from Jimmy Underscore.

2349
01:41:31,040 --> 01:41:32,960
Speaker 2: By the way, Subril Mattias, who.

2350
01:41:34,640 --> 01:41:36,920
Speaker 1: Pause this question, Uh, we didn't really work it into

2351
01:41:36,920 --> 01:41:38,600
Speaker 1: the show, but on his own on Saturday night, so

2352
01:41:38,680 --> 01:41:42,480
Speaker 1: Sybril Mattias had the back in Puerto Rico and homecoming

2353
01:41:42,520 --> 01:41:43,639
Speaker 1: to defend his one left.

2354
01:41:44,360 --> 01:41:46,120
Speaker 2: Signed with Matt Room. They get him a fight against

2355
01:41:46,120 --> 01:41:47,680
Speaker 2: the guy they thought he could beat, and they put

2356
01:41:47,720 --> 01:41:49,599
Speaker 2: the fight in Puerto Rico and he.

2357
01:41:49,680 --> 01:41:52,080
Speaker 1: Lost Liam Paro the South Paul. This is such a

2358
01:41:52,080 --> 01:41:55,560
Speaker 1: big win from Australia, Luke. He came out and crowded

2359
01:41:55,920 --> 01:41:59,519
Speaker 1: uh Mattias right off the start, attacked him, was high volume,

2360
01:41:59,560 --> 01:42:01,800
Speaker 1: but constantly kept crowding him, and that was the key.

2361
01:42:01,880 --> 01:42:04,000
Speaker 1: You have to and Matia is known as a slow starter,

2362
01:42:04,080 --> 01:42:06,200
Speaker 1: but typically he starts to catch up and go downhill

2363
01:42:06,200 --> 01:42:08,360
Speaker 1: and just brutalize. You made those last five opponents quick

2364
01:42:08,720 --> 01:42:12,080
Speaker 1: los Chenko style. He got solved. This is very sort

2365
01:42:12,120 --> 01:42:14,519
Speaker 1: of disappointing when in this has to be kind of pistol.

2366
01:42:15,040 --> 01:42:17,000
Speaker 1: Guys are getting lit up left and right lately.

2367
01:42:16,840 --> 01:42:18,720
Speaker 2: They're taking risks. So, I mean, the next big one

2368
01:42:18,760 --> 01:42:20,519
Speaker 2: is going to be in July with Boots Ennis and

2369
01:42:20,520 --> 01:42:21,479
Speaker 2: his return to Philly.

2370
01:42:21,640 --> 01:42:23,120
Speaker 1: Not against crowd.

2371
01:42:23,320 --> 01:42:24,720
Speaker 2: So they got the who's the other guy they got

2372
01:42:24,720 --> 01:42:26,400
Speaker 2: into phill In for him.

2373
01:42:26,479 --> 01:42:29,920
Speaker 1: Oh it's David Ebnis Vanissan, Yeah, the guy that the guy.

2374
01:42:30,520 --> 01:42:33,000
Speaker 1: I mean, he's an okay opponent, but it's not you

2375
01:42:33,000 --> 01:42:33,400
Speaker 1: would have won.

2376
01:42:33,439 --> 01:42:34,680
Speaker 2: I think they're just trying to get boots over the

2377
01:42:34,720 --> 01:42:35,559
Speaker 2: Philly finish line.

2378
01:42:35,600 --> 01:42:37,479
Speaker 1: They really are, all right, Jimmy Reid says, is it

2379
01:42:37,520 --> 01:42:41,080
Speaker 1: crazy that Bobby knocks? I mean, Whittaker came out in

2380
01:42:41,160 --> 01:42:44,000
Speaker 1: the media saying he'd never heard of Ikram. I'll scare

2381
01:42:44,040 --> 01:42:47,360
Speaker 1: off his opponent at all? How competitive do you both

2382
01:42:47,400 --> 01:42:48,960
Speaker 1: see the fight being all?

2383
01:42:49,080 --> 01:42:53,040
Speaker 2: So many fighters don't follow mm A closely, many more

2384
01:42:53,080 --> 01:42:55,040
Speaker 2: than you think. I would still say the majority do

2385
01:42:55,280 --> 01:42:56,040
Speaker 2: follow mm A.

2386
01:42:56,040 --> 01:42:58,320
Speaker 1: As Eric Lewis didn't hear of the guy he just beat.

2387
01:42:58,400 --> 01:43:01,000
Speaker 2: This is not that's my point at all uncommon. I

2388
01:43:01,000 --> 01:43:04,800
Speaker 2: would say a significant minority, but a significant chunk of

2389
01:43:04,800 --> 01:43:05,320
Speaker 2: that minority.

2390
01:43:05,320 --> 01:43:07,800
Speaker 1: Does that speak to This is different Derek Lewis, You

2391
01:43:07,800 --> 01:43:10,040
Speaker 1: wouldn't expect him to really be looking up and down

2392
01:43:10,080 --> 01:43:12,320
Speaker 1: the rankings and knowing who's there. Robert Whittaker is the

2393
01:43:12,320 --> 01:43:14,479
Speaker 1: living legend former CHAMPI he should have known that this guy.

2394
01:43:14,560 --> 01:43:16,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, hold on, I thought this was a huge Okay,

2395
01:43:16,360 --> 01:43:18,759
Speaker 2: So we talked about the Diego Lopez fight against Brian Ortega.

2396
01:43:18,800 --> 01:43:23,559
Speaker 2: That was three verses fourteen. Alice Skaarov is ranked not

2397
01:43:23,720 --> 01:43:26,519
Speaker 2: at all. He's not even ranked. Chris Curtis at fifteen,

2398
01:43:26,520 --> 01:43:30,240
Speaker 2: her name is at fourteen, Paeda at thirteen, Bohalio at twelve,

2399
01:43:30,360 --> 01:43:33,240
Speaker 2: Chamaiav at ten, the leeds a Tide, then her Hermanson

2400
01:43:33,280 --> 01:43:35,759
Speaker 2: at nine, cost to ed eight, Allen at seven, Vitri

2401
01:43:35,840 --> 01:43:39,959
Speaker 2: at six, Cannon here at five, Imavov, Whittaker, and then Strickland.

2402
01:43:40,120 --> 01:43:41,320
Speaker 2: You see the point I'm trying to make is this

2403
01:43:41,360 --> 01:43:43,360
Speaker 2: guy is literally unranked. Yeah, of course he hasn't heard

2404
01:43:43,400 --> 01:43:45,679
Speaker 2: of him. I totally understand that. I don't know, dude,

2405
01:43:45,680 --> 01:43:49,400
Speaker 2: if we've heard of him because he fought Jamaiah and

2406
01:43:49,479 --> 01:43:50,639
Speaker 2: he got knocked out by Chamiav.

2407
01:43:50,640 --> 01:43:52,479
Speaker 1: But you have one job. You have one job to

2408
01:43:52,479 --> 01:43:53,280
Speaker 1: know the people coming up.

2409
01:43:53,600 --> 01:43:55,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I disagree with that. Your job is to beat

2410
01:43:55,840 --> 01:43:57,160
Speaker 2: the guy in front of you. And if the guy

2411
01:43:57,240 --> 01:43:59,519
Speaker 2: is not even ranked, I understand not paying close attention.

2412
01:44:00,880 --> 01:44:02,960
Speaker 2: What I'm gonna say is ales Karov is big to

2413
01:44:03,040 --> 01:44:05,719
Speaker 2: us because we're all like, hey, another Dakistani guy. Look out.

2414
01:44:06,040 --> 01:44:08,240
Speaker 2: He has obviously well rounded. His wins in the UFC

2415
01:44:08,280 --> 01:44:10,479
Speaker 2: ha been awesome, and he was the guy that actually

2416
01:44:10,520 --> 01:44:13,439
Speaker 2: stopped all of Chamaiv's takedowns first. He then got knocked

2417
01:44:13,439 --> 01:44:16,360
Speaker 2: out in brave. But okay, I get it. I actually if.

2418
01:44:16,240 --> 01:44:18,400
Speaker 1: Shov Catt Rockmanov gives you a ten out of ten

2419
01:44:18,439 --> 01:44:22,400
Speaker 1: in the bone zone, yeah, if you will, Twitter, how

2420
01:44:22,600 --> 01:44:24,360
Speaker 1: full is the mask done? Okay?

2421
01:44:24,360 --> 01:44:28,520
Speaker 2: So if Elliot Tiforia and Rockmanov is like the peak Robber.

2422
01:44:28,479 --> 01:44:31,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like full. So Freddy, just right in your face,

2423
01:44:31,680 --> 01:44:35,479
Speaker 1: just like please, sir, this is an RBS. Sir, you know.

2424
01:44:39,200 --> 01:44:41,960
Speaker 2: Seven and a half eight? Okay, seven and a half

2425
01:44:42,040 --> 01:44:44,200
Speaker 2: eight something time? What about you? Gaff? Where are you

2426
01:44:44,320 --> 01:44:48,200
Speaker 2: on the Ikramala Scareff Boner meter. You're a five.

2427
01:44:48,760 --> 01:44:50,720
Speaker 1: I'm sitting at a five. Doesn't do anything for me.

2428
01:44:51,000 --> 01:44:54,000
Speaker 2: You're racist, that's what your Gaft's got.

2429
01:44:53,960 --> 01:44:55,720
Speaker 1: A sweet that's holloway shirt on right now?

2430
01:44:55,840 --> 01:44:58,280
Speaker 2: Right yeah, I come in here, show show the people

2431
01:44:58,360 --> 01:44:59,559
Speaker 2: you're come on, come on in here.

2432
01:44:59,600 --> 01:45:02,400
Speaker 1: Cathe more Fighter T shirts than anyone I've ever met.

2433
01:45:03,200 --> 01:45:05,600
Speaker 2: That's true. Come on in here, Geff. Why do they

2434
01:45:05,680 --> 01:45:07,720
Speaker 2: lock us in here? Like if we get trapped in

2435
01:45:07,760 --> 01:45:09,880
Speaker 2: a fucking fire, we're gonna burn in here. Probably come

2436
01:45:09,920 --> 01:45:11,519
Speaker 2: over Come over here, come over here, Jeff.

2437
01:45:11,920 --> 01:45:13,960
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Gaff Pierre is bad.

2438
01:45:14,040 --> 01:45:15,559
Speaker 2: Show them the shirt.

2439
01:45:16,120 --> 01:45:18,840
Speaker 1: Damn. Yeah, that's a badass shirt.

2440
01:45:19,240 --> 01:45:20,600
Speaker 2: Where'd you get it? I got it?

2441
01:45:24,000 --> 01:45:26,240
Speaker 1: They can't hear him, guys, he'll relay the message he

2442
01:45:26,280 --> 01:45:27,360
Speaker 1: said he got it online.

2443
01:45:27,960 --> 01:45:30,680
Speaker 2: How much did you pay for that? Thirty bucks? That's

2444
01:45:30,680 --> 01:45:31,479
Speaker 2: a good that's a good one.

2445
01:45:32,720 --> 01:45:34,720
Speaker 1: Oh it's nice, Hey, Gaff, great to have you back.

2446
01:45:34,840 --> 01:45:36,040
Speaker 1: By the way, do you know he has a morning

2447
01:45:36,040 --> 01:45:36,719
Speaker 1: combat tattoo?

2448
01:45:36,760 --> 01:45:38,200
Speaker 2: You know this I do? Can you show them? Can

2449
01:45:38,200 --> 01:45:38,800
Speaker 2: you zoom in on that?

2450
01:45:38,960 --> 01:45:39,080
Speaker 6: Or no?

2451
01:45:39,960 --> 01:45:41,880
Speaker 2: No, you can't go into Luke's ia. I'll do it.

2452
01:45:42,479 --> 01:45:44,400
Speaker 2: Com in too, my isome, Come over my head?

2453
01:45:44,760 --> 01:45:45,479
Speaker 1: What's the camerang?

2454
01:45:45,560 --> 01:45:50,439
Speaker 2: Guy? There? There? It is right there? Wowkay, yeah, that's

2455
01:45:50,520 --> 01:45:51,920
Speaker 2: right right, Get the fuck out of my studio.

2456
01:45:54,600 --> 01:45:57,000
Speaker 1: I like his sleeves a little bit better than Tristan's

2457
01:45:57,080 --> 01:45:57,839
Speaker 1: Rabbid Patrol.

2458
01:45:58,120 --> 01:46:01,080
Speaker 2: Tristan just had Cannibal Corpse covers on his albums, I mean,

2459
01:46:01,200 --> 01:46:02,400
Speaker 2: you know, or is on his forums rather.

2460
01:46:02,439 --> 01:46:04,200
Speaker 1: All right, let's keep the DMS rolling here. This one's

2461
01:46:04,200 --> 01:46:07,640
Speaker 1: from Jose. I'm sorry, Joel walked in. Joel walked in,

2462
01:46:07,880 --> 01:46:08,879
Speaker 1: watched Walton.

2463
01:46:09,040 --> 01:46:09,639
Speaker 2: It doesn't matter.

2464
01:46:10,320 --> 01:46:12,040
Speaker 1: Now that you guys have been to the sphere we

2465
01:46:12,200 --> 01:46:13,880
Speaker 1: have which and by the way, a lot of people

2466
01:46:13,920 --> 01:46:16,760
Speaker 1: saying can't wait to hear your guys sphear recap on Monday. Guys,

2467
01:46:16,800 --> 01:46:17,360
Speaker 1: it was Friday.

2468
01:46:17,439 --> 01:46:19,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, we did we did that. We did a well

2469
01:46:19,520 --> 01:46:20,920
Speaker 2: nobody saw it. Anna do.

2470
01:46:21,280 --> 01:46:23,360
Speaker 1: Which fight would you most like to see at the

2471
01:46:23,439 --> 01:46:27,400
Speaker 1: Sphere Sean versus morab Ilia versus Max or any other?

2472
01:46:28,479 --> 01:46:30,840
Speaker 2: How would you like the ufaktu so b C. I'm

2473
01:46:30,840 --> 01:46:33,960
Speaker 2: gonna say this and this is my feeling. I talked

2474
01:46:34,000 --> 01:46:36,240
Speaker 2: to my wife about that show, the one that we saw,

2475
01:46:36,320 --> 01:46:37,840
Speaker 2: and again, if you haven't seen our Friday recap, we

2476
01:46:37,920 --> 01:46:40,280
Speaker 2: really go into I mean, the Sphere is the I

2477
01:46:40,360 --> 01:46:42,240
Speaker 2: said this to my wife. I've been going to Vegas

2478
01:46:42,520 --> 01:46:44,640
Speaker 2: since nineteen ninety nine, for twenty five years. When you

2479
01:46:44,680 --> 01:46:47,519
Speaker 2: went to Circus Circus, went to Circus Circus. The Sphere

2480
01:46:47,640 --> 01:46:50,000
Speaker 2: is the first thing where I ever was like, okay,

2481
01:46:50,120 --> 01:46:53,120
Speaker 2: I'll travel to Vegas to go see something there. That's

2482
01:46:53,160 --> 01:46:55,280
Speaker 2: the first place I've ever felt like, you.

2483
01:46:55,320 --> 01:46:56,640
Speaker 1: Know, when the Sphere opened up, I said it was

2484
01:46:56,680 --> 01:46:58,360
Speaker 1: going to be spectacular, like it's not for me, BC,

2485
01:46:58,479 --> 01:46:59,000
Speaker 1: it's not for me.

2486
01:46:59,160 --> 01:47:02,080
Speaker 2: I stand correct I stay in corrected. I'll say this.

2487
01:47:03,320 --> 01:47:06,320
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna say that the fight at the Sphere

2488
01:47:06,640 --> 01:47:08,760
Speaker 2: doesn't matter like, which one is more important than the

2489
01:47:08,800 --> 01:47:12,120
Speaker 2: other one, because obviously these considerations do matter. But to me,

2490
01:47:12,240 --> 01:47:15,519
Speaker 2: the thing I go back to is you have to

2491
01:47:15,600 --> 01:47:21,160
Speaker 2: put so much effort into the visual display that goes

2492
01:47:21,240 --> 01:47:24,000
Speaker 2: up there. Yeah, they're already seventeen million, seventeen million in

2493
01:47:24,000 --> 01:47:25,320
Speaker 2: the whole day in a white told I think it

2494
01:47:25,439 --> 01:47:27,920
Speaker 2: was Sports Business Journal last week, and they're not even

2495
01:47:27,920 --> 01:47:30,479
Speaker 2: close to September yet. So my thought is BC, I'm

2496
01:47:30,520 --> 01:47:33,160
Speaker 2: not gonna say the fight doesn't matter, but I'm gonna say, like,

2497
01:47:33,360 --> 01:47:38,479
Speaker 2: the overall production value to me is as equally important

2498
01:47:38,479 --> 01:47:41,680
Speaker 2: important a consideration as whatever main event holds it. Yes

2499
01:47:41,880 --> 01:47:42,240
Speaker 2: on top.

2500
01:47:42,600 --> 01:47:44,960
Speaker 1: I do have questions about how any not just UFC,

2501
01:47:45,080 --> 01:47:46,360
Speaker 1: but any combat sport will work there.

2502
01:47:46,400 --> 01:47:47,280
Speaker 2: It's like, I don't know if it will.

2503
01:47:47,400 --> 01:47:49,479
Speaker 1: It's like one part of me is like, Okay, you're

2504
01:47:49,520 --> 01:47:52,519
Speaker 1: going to see fighters that are five hundred feet tall

2505
01:47:52,640 --> 01:47:55,479
Speaker 1: or whatever. I mean, that just look ridiculous. But can

2506
01:47:55,520 --> 01:47:57,720
Speaker 1: you get the full scope of the fight when it's

2507
01:47:57,760 --> 01:48:00,040
Speaker 1: on this dome half dome of a screen. I don't, No,

2508
01:48:00,360 --> 01:48:02,600
Speaker 1: I don't know exactly how they're going to make that

2509
01:48:02,720 --> 01:48:04,439
Speaker 1: work or if it's even meant for that. I mean

2510
01:48:04,800 --> 01:48:06,760
Speaker 1: seeing a movie in there. I know they do. They

2511
01:48:06,800 --> 01:48:08,479
Speaker 1: do like a daily nature movie that I heard is

2512
01:48:08,680 --> 01:48:10,200
Speaker 1: Otel was telling us. It's just fantastic.

2513
01:48:10,280 --> 01:48:10,600
Speaker 2: Is that right?

2514
01:48:10,760 --> 01:48:13,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's some level of like IMAX level movie that

2515
01:48:13,920 --> 01:48:15,360
Speaker 1: you can just pay a certain fee and watch at

2516
01:48:15,400 --> 01:48:17,280
Speaker 1: any when they run it during the day. But I'd

2517
01:48:17,320 --> 01:48:18,519
Speaker 1: love to see a movie there. I'd love to see

2518
01:48:18,520 --> 01:48:20,679
Speaker 1: certain bands there we talked about, you know, you mentioned Tool.

2519
01:48:20,880 --> 01:48:22,559
Speaker 1: I'd love to see any of my favorite bands there.

2520
01:48:22,600 --> 01:48:24,840
Speaker 1: But I still have questions about how they're going to

2521
01:48:24,880 --> 01:48:27,360
Speaker 1: make that actually work. I do think it's worth the shot.

2522
01:48:27,520 --> 01:48:29,040
Speaker 1: It's worth it. Obviously, it's worth the shot. They have

2523
01:48:29,120 --> 01:48:30,760
Speaker 1: the money to do it, they have the ambition to

2524
01:48:30,840 --> 01:48:34,040
Speaker 1: do it. So the spirit of that question was which

2525
01:48:34,160 --> 01:48:36,479
Speaker 1: fight do you think is the main event that would

2526
01:48:36,600 --> 01:48:40,639
Speaker 1: make the sphere work? I say John Jones versus Tom aspinall.

2527
01:48:40,640 --> 01:48:43,840
Speaker 1: If you're gonna go big, go heavy, go go go full.

2528
01:48:44,000 --> 01:48:45,680
Speaker 2: Someone asked me this question, let me put it to you.

2529
01:48:47,680 --> 01:48:49,960
Speaker 2: He said he want to take a break afterwards. But

2530
01:48:50,080 --> 01:48:53,760
Speaker 2: if Poton wins at UFC three oh three and John

2531
01:48:53,840 --> 01:48:57,040
Speaker 2: Jones wins in November, okay, is he going to try

2532
01:48:57,120 --> 01:48:58,640
Speaker 2: and be like, you know what, fuck your title. I

2533
01:48:58,720 --> 01:48:59,839
Speaker 2: want to just fight Poeton.

2534
01:49:00,479 --> 01:49:02,640
Speaker 1: This gets me so jacked up.

2535
01:49:02,760 --> 01:49:04,000
Speaker 2: Now, that would have to be a heavyweight because I

2536
01:49:04,000 --> 01:49:05,240
Speaker 2: don't think he could go back down to two o

2537
01:49:05,360 --> 01:49:08,599
Speaker 2: five at this point, but it would level of interest

2538
01:49:08,640 --> 01:49:11,320
Speaker 2: at heavyweight John Jones, and again there might be some

2539
01:49:11,439 --> 01:49:13,080
Speaker 2: kind of consideration about the title there. I don't know

2540
01:49:13,120 --> 01:49:13,680
Speaker 2: how that would work.

2541
01:49:14,200 --> 01:49:16,600
Speaker 1: So you're telling me that the first person that's going

2542
01:49:16,640 --> 01:49:19,120
Speaker 1: to attempt to become a three division UFC champion is

2543
01:49:19,200 --> 01:49:22,439
Speaker 1: Poeton in the sphere against John Jones, sign me the

2544
01:49:22,680 --> 01:49:23,240
Speaker 1: fuck like.

2545
01:49:23,360 --> 01:49:25,599
Speaker 2: Getting like when you think about like, okay, so if

2546
01:49:25,640 --> 01:49:28,680
Speaker 2: you want the sphere to matter, the visuals around it

2547
01:49:28,760 --> 01:49:32,560
Speaker 2: has to matter. Just allegiance potion doing his walkout with

2548
01:49:32,760 --> 01:49:36,240
Speaker 2: the sphere, with the music and everything would be next

2549
01:49:36,600 --> 01:49:41,040
Speaker 2: fucking level. What are you saying, Nocita, I was I

2550
01:49:41,160 --> 01:49:43,040
Speaker 2: was saying when he shoots the arrow, it looks sick

2551
01:49:43,080 --> 01:49:46,360
Speaker 2: on the sphere. So when you're asking that, So when

2552
01:49:46,360 --> 01:49:48,600
Speaker 2: you're asking like who can go there, you have to

2553
01:49:49,040 --> 01:49:52,160
Speaker 2: have people that bring the drama to those visual elements.

2554
01:49:52,479 --> 01:49:54,920
Speaker 2: Poeton is a perfect guy for that.

2555
01:49:55,040 --> 01:49:57,360
Speaker 1: Can you imagine when like John John Beggins' walk out

2556
01:49:57,360 --> 01:49:59,960
Speaker 1: and suddenly it's like that intersection in Albuquerque in two

2557
01:50:00,080 --> 01:50:04,400
Speaker 1: cars are coming together and the pregnant lady gets out like, yeah, no, seriously,

2558
01:50:04,840 --> 01:50:06,880
Speaker 1: that's not just an allegiant stadium fight. That is a

2559
01:50:06,920 --> 01:50:09,640
Speaker 1: Spheres Sverhe fight, because there's so much history baked into that.

2560
01:50:09,720 --> 01:50:12,639
Speaker 1: And you know, John would hang around because Poton doesn't wrestle,

2561
01:50:12,720 --> 01:50:14,439
Speaker 1: and he's the smaller guy, so he would hang around

2562
01:50:14,479 --> 01:50:14,920
Speaker 1: for that, right.

2563
01:50:15,640 --> 01:50:18,760
Speaker 2: I think, you know, it's hard to know, but I'm

2564
01:50:18,840 --> 01:50:20,960
Speaker 2: gonna guess that he probably wants to fight Poton a

2565
01:50:21,000 --> 01:50:22,960
Speaker 2: lot more than he wants to fight Ospital. Again, here's

2566
01:50:22,960 --> 01:50:26,439
Speaker 2: the other part too. What if Blades wins and your

2567
01:50:26,520 --> 01:50:30,559
Speaker 2: choice is Blades or Pooton, it's Pooton ten times out

2568
01:50:30,600 --> 01:50:30,840
Speaker 2: of ten.

2569
01:50:31,040 --> 01:50:33,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sorry, Blades, that's not part of the equation. Here.

2570
01:50:33,080 --> 01:50:34,920
Speaker 1: We got one more number five that comes from the

2571
01:50:35,000 --> 01:50:39,200
Speaker 1: world's worst hero. Oh I thought that was I cannot

2572
01:50:39,200 --> 01:50:41,000
Speaker 1: for a few names on that. Let's see who would

2573
01:50:41,000 --> 01:50:43,479
Speaker 1: win in a hot dog eating contest between you two.

2574
01:50:43,560 --> 01:50:46,880
Speaker 1: And if the Glizzies are too gross, no such thing, unless,

2575
01:50:46,960 --> 01:50:48,400
Speaker 1: by the way, I went to Jamaica, they have like

2576
01:50:48,680 --> 01:50:50,400
Speaker 1: bright red hot dogs. Those are gross.

2577
01:50:50,400 --> 01:50:52,120
Speaker 2: I won't touch them like that, you know, you know

2578
01:50:52,160 --> 01:50:53,519
Speaker 2: that color of red where you're like, that's the one

2579
01:50:53,560 --> 01:50:55,599
Speaker 2: that's been stored in like some kind of pickle juice.

2580
01:50:56,280 --> 01:50:58,600
Speaker 2: If you go to at a resort in Jamaica, what

2581
01:50:58,720 --> 01:51:01,400
Speaker 2: about a boneless wing? Don't go to all inclusives? All right,

2582
01:51:01,560 --> 01:51:02,200
Speaker 2: a little grea you.

2583
01:51:02,200 --> 01:51:05,000
Speaker 1: And I right now? If they lined up Glizzies, if

2584
01:51:05,080 --> 01:51:07,120
Speaker 1: we because isn't it going to be Joey Chestnut who's

2585
01:51:07,160 --> 01:51:11,320
Speaker 1: banned from the hot Dogs because he's sponsored by a

2586
01:51:11,400 --> 01:51:14,040
Speaker 1: vegan hot dog so him and Kobyashi are going to

2587
01:51:14,080 --> 01:51:16,840
Speaker 1: do a Netflix event? What if that was you and me?

2588
01:51:16,880 --> 01:51:20,360
Speaker 1: Who would win in a hot dog eating contest? Because

2589
01:51:20,400 --> 01:51:22,439
Speaker 1: you're way bigger than me. But look, I can eat

2590
01:51:22,479 --> 01:51:23,240
Speaker 1: the ship out of the.

2591
01:51:23,320 --> 01:51:25,400
Speaker 2: I don't know if I have a great capacity for

2592
01:51:26,080 --> 01:51:27,639
Speaker 2: I mean, I know you can gargle those things.

2593
01:51:27,680 --> 01:51:29,240
Speaker 1: Like if you put a pizza out here, Luke, I'll

2594
01:51:29,280 --> 01:51:31,040
Speaker 1: out pizza you every day the way ye pizza.

2595
01:51:31,040 --> 01:51:32,760
Speaker 2: I feel like I can hang. I can hang with

2596
01:51:32,840 --> 01:51:35,200
Speaker 2: the pizza. But a Glizzie like you know, dude, why

2597
01:51:35,320 --> 01:51:38,519
Speaker 2: haven't we fucking done this yet, Matt Snyder, why haven't

2598
01:51:38,560 --> 01:51:40,000
Speaker 2: we done No?

2599
01:51:40,080 --> 01:51:40,479
Speaker 1: No, no, no no.

2600
01:51:40,640 --> 01:51:42,880
Speaker 2: The Glizzies where you you hollow him out and then

2601
01:51:42,880 --> 01:51:44,080
Speaker 2: you treat it like a beer.

2602
01:51:43,920 --> 01:51:45,760
Speaker 1: Straw because it's disgusting.

2603
01:51:45,840 --> 01:51:47,720
Speaker 2: But yeah, what do you think this show is?

2604
01:51:47,760 --> 01:51:47,880
Speaker 1: All?

2605
01:51:47,960 --> 01:51:48,040
Speaker 2: Right?

2606
01:51:48,040 --> 01:51:49,600
Speaker 1: What about wings? Do you think you can take me

2607
01:51:49,680 --> 01:51:50,040
Speaker 1: in wings?

2608
01:51:50,360 --> 01:51:52,680
Speaker 2: I can't do heat at all, so I feel like

2609
01:51:52,680 --> 01:51:54,720
Speaker 2: I could beat you in wings Glizzies, I don't think

2610
01:51:54,720 --> 01:51:56,559
Speaker 2: I could beat you, but pizza and wings, I think

2611
01:51:56,560 --> 01:51:58,040
Speaker 2: I can. I could take you right.

2612
01:51:58,200 --> 01:52:00,479
Speaker 1: What about a weed off? You are going to take

2613
01:52:00,520 --> 01:52:00,920
Speaker 1: that every day?

2614
01:52:01,120 --> 01:52:05,439
Speaker 2: I don't know three Margarita's Bryan. By the way, I

2615
01:52:05,520 --> 01:52:08,120
Speaker 2: had two drinks yesterday total all day. Yes, I had

2616
01:52:08,200 --> 01:52:10,439
Speaker 2: one at in the afternoon and one at dinner, and

2617
01:52:10,520 --> 01:52:15,080
Speaker 2: I'm hungover now, Like the washed doesn't begin to describe it.

2618
01:52:15,120 --> 01:52:16,800
Speaker 1: I get out Delta. You at the sphere, I was

2619
01:52:16,840 --> 01:52:18,479
Speaker 1: in row eight thousand, eight hundred.

2620
01:52:18,520 --> 01:52:21,639
Speaker 2: Well, motherfucker, I mean the amount you stuffed in your gullet.

2621
01:52:22,160 --> 01:52:24,920
Speaker 2: I was like, I'm just I mean, I don't know

2622
01:52:25,000 --> 01:52:26,800
Speaker 2: if he's coming home from this show. I mean we

2623
01:52:26,840 --> 01:52:28,000
Speaker 2: even just bury him here.

2624
01:52:28,160 --> 01:52:29,679
Speaker 1: He's made it all right, We got one more segment

2625
01:52:29,720 --> 01:52:30,439
Speaker 1: here if I can find.

2626
01:52:30,320 --> 01:52:31,880
Speaker 2: Why don't you tell people you walked home because you

2627
01:52:31,880 --> 01:52:33,840
Speaker 2: didn't want to stand in the fucking n it took.

2628
01:52:34,120 --> 01:52:36,519
Speaker 1: I walked two miles back from the sphere, and the

2629
01:52:36,560 --> 01:52:38,479
Speaker 1: reason why it was two miles is because, like because

2630
01:52:38,520 --> 01:52:41,000
Speaker 1: you were lost the way, they tried to funnel all

2631
01:52:41,040 --> 01:52:42,719
Speaker 1: the people in one direction and it's.

2632
01:52:42,640 --> 01:52:44,759
Speaker 2: Not mentioned that the roads are meant for cars, not pedestrial.

2633
01:52:44,800 --> 01:52:47,280
Speaker 1: Well, the direction leads you inside of a condo complex

2634
01:52:47,360 --> 01:52:49,040
Speaker 1: and a dead end. Like I was just like weaving

2635
01:52:49,120 --> 01:52:50,760
Speaker 1: in and it was one of the worst walks through

2636
01:52:50,800 --> 01:52:52,040
Speaker 1: hell ever. But that's fine.

2637
01:52:52,320 --> 01:52:54,240
Speaker 2: That's neither I left early and got home right on

2638
01:52:54,360 --> 01:52:55,360
Speaker 2: time here nor there.

2639
01:52:55,400 --> 01:52:57,720
Speaker 1: As you say, we closed the segment with the best

2640
01:52:58,000 --> 01:52:59,840
Speaker 1: segment in off combat sports here that I do every

2641
01:53:00,120 --> 01:53:02,120
Speaker 1: you know, someday when I scoured the globe for the good,

2642
01:53:02,120 --> 01:53:03,840
Speaker 1: the bad, the ugly, the high, the lows, thing between

2643
01:53:04,720 --> 01:53:07,000
Speaker 1: from combat sports and beyond, I put this together at

2644
01:53:07,000 --> 01:53:09,200
Speaker 1: the airport, Luke, which usually means it's a step down,

2645
01:53:09,280 --> 01:53:10,960
Speaker 1: but I'm going to pregrade it ahead of time and

2646
01:53:10,960 --> 01:53:12,679
Speaker 1: say it's still a solid be plus. Are you ready

2647
01:53:12,720 --> 01:53:14,280
Speaker 1: for this? Yes, it's the shit of the week. I

2648
01:53:14,320 --> 01:53:26,840
Speaker 1: hope you've seen it. Whoah. We started in Las Vegas.

2649
01:53:26,880 --> 01:53:29,240
Speaker 1: It was a big weekend for boxing. Luke Tank gave

2650
01:53:29,360 --> 01:53:33,680
Speaker 1: us the celebratory backflip after finishing Frank Martin. First he

2651
01:53:33,760 --> 01:53:36,680
Speaker 1: humped dry humped the corner, and then he went back up.

2652
01:53:36,760 --> 01:53:38,040
Speaker 1: Luke grade this flip out of ten.

2653
01:53:38,200 --> 01:53:40,280
Speaker 2: I feel like this is a pretty good let's see,

2654
01:53:40,439 --> 01:53:44,360
Speaker 2: I could height on it too. Yes, it's a solid

2655
01:53:44,479 --> 01:53:45,880
Speaker 2: nine out of ten. That's a good one.

2656
01:53:46,000 --> 01:53:48,280
Speaker 1: I mentioned Ryan Garcia went up to the ring apron

2657
01:53:48,320 --> 01:53:50,080
Speaker 1: after the fight, and I was surprised to see them

2658
01:53:50,160 --> 01:53:52,920
Speaker 1: so colorfully engaged with one another.

2659
01:53:53,040 --> 01:53:56,000
Speaker 2: You you know, Tank has not been super hard on

2660
01:53:56,160 --> 01:53:58,519
Speaker 2: Ryan in this process. Maybe Ryan really appreciates it. I

2661
01:53:58,560 --> 01:54:00,519
Speaker 2: don't know. I don't know exactly what the store is there,

2662
01:54:01,240 --> 01:54:04,360
Speaker 2: but Ryan Garcia is awful. So there's that.

2663
01:54:04,560 --> 01:54:07,000
Speaker 1: Tank at the press conference afterwards, when asked about this,

2664
01:54:07,120 --> 01:54:08,640
Speaker 1: said that they were just kind of joking around, but

2665
01:54:08,680 --> 01:54:11,439
Speaker 1: he said, yo, Ryan crazy, like I'll fight him eventually.

2666
01:54:11,560 --> 01:54:13,519
Speaker 2: But I will say it doesn't Tank seem a little

2667
01:54:13,560 --> 01:54:14,439
Speaker 2: bit chiller to you.

2668
01:54:14,680 --> 01:54:16,760
Speaker 1: A lot chiller, right, A lot chiller. And I'm not

2669
01:54:16,800 --> 01:54:18,760
Speaker 1: trying to, you know, excuse his I do get people

2670
01:54:18,800 --> 01:54:20,200
Speaker 1: in the DMS like I can never cheer for him

2671
01:54:20,240 --> 01:54:21,600
Speaker 1: because of what he's done, and I understand that.

2672
01:54:22,040 --> 01:54:23,439
Speaker 2: But I also here's my other point too, is he

2673
01:54:24,360 --> 01:54:25,880
Speaker 2: do you know why one time made a point about people.

2674
01:54:25,880 --> 01:54:27,200
Speaker 2: It's like, if they go to jail, they get out,

2675
01:54:27,240 --> 01:54:29,479
Speaker 2: that means they paid their debt to society. That doesn't

2676
01:54:29,479 --> 01:54:32,200
Speaker 2: mean anybody owes them anything. But as an athlete, I

2677
01:54:32,280 --> 01:54:33,720
Speaker 2: tend to look at them a little bit differently if

2678
01:54:33,720 --> 01:54:37,720
Speaker 2: they've actually served some kind of genuine penalty. And he did, well,

2679
01:54:37,960 --> 01:54:38,240
Speaker 2: there you go.

2680
01:54:38,400 --> 01:54:41,400
Speaker 1: Let's keep it up. Real recognized real. By the way,

2681
01:54:41,480 --> 01:54:44,720
Speaker 1: when Caleb Plant caught up with Alexander Usik, who was

2682
01:54:44,840 --> 01:54:49,440
Speaker 1: on site Saturday to cheer on his countrymen, Alexander Vodzick.

2683
01:54:49,080 --> 01:54:50,520
Speaker 2: I mean, that's just all respect right there.

2684
01:54:50,600 --> 01:54:52,360
Speaker 1: So we don't have the audio playing, but what Caleb

2685
01:54:52,400 --> 01:54:53,800
Speaker 1: said to him is, Hey, I'm a big fan. You

2686
01:54:53,880 --> 01:54:55,880
Speaker 1: mind if we get a picture. I love when when

2687
01:54:55,920 --> 01:54:57,120
Speaker 1: guys show this level of respect.

2688
01:54:57,440 --> 01:55:00,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, how do you not Usik? Is he's so special?

2689
01:55:01,000 --> 01:55:03,600
Speaker 1: By the way, there's rumors that Kayleb Plant could headline

2690
01:55:03,640 --> 01:55:07,080
Speaker 1: a PBC non paper vias with Stephen Fulton. Yeah, with

2691
01:55:07,120 --> 01:55:08,840
Speaker 1: Stephen Fulton and the Colemane. That could be something that

2692
01:55:08,920 --> 01:55:11,760
Speaker 1: we get there. Ryan Garcia luke I mentioned he had

2693
01:55:11,800 --> 01:55:14,960
Speaker 1: the dust up with Caleb Plant here. Watched this. That's

2694
01:55:15,040 --> 01:55:17,040
Speaker 1: Ryan walking out with the security team and Plant right

2695
01:55:17,080 --> 01:55:18,480
Speaker 1: there throws the beer can at him.

2696
01:55:18,680 --> 01:55:20,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then he falls over, which I don't know

2697
01:55:20,200 --> 01:55:20,560
Speaker 2: what happened.

2698
01:55:20,600 --> 01:55:22,320
Speaker 1: He got pushed by Ryan's security. Oh he did, he

2699
01:55:22,320 --> 01:55:24,120
Speaker 1: got pushed it knocked over a bunch of chairs. There's

2700
01:55:24,160 --> 01:55:25,560
Speaker 1: Ryan with the black T shirt. You can see in

2701
01:55:25,600 --> 01:55:27,760
Speaker 1: the back. We'll run this back a second time so

2702
01:55:27,800 --> 01:55:29,240
Speaker 1: you can kind of watch it. So Caleb is in

2703
01:55:29,280 --> 01:55:31,120
Speaker 1: a white T shirt and a hat. He kind of

2704
01:55:31,200 --> 01:55:33,920
Speaker 1: snuck up as Ryan was walking out. And see Caleb

2705
01:55:34,000 --> 01:55:37,600
Speaker 1: right there. Yeah, watch this a second time, full full

2706
01:55:37,680 --> 01:55:38,920
Speaker 1: beer bottle right at him.

2707
01:55:39,840 --> 01:55:41,520
Speaker 2: Like I said, man, I don't wish for this kind

2708
01:55:41,560 --> 01:55:43,560
Speaker 2: of thing. I just don't know how you can talk

2709
01:55:43,640 --> 01:55:45,640
Speaker 2: that way about people who do this for a living

2710
01:55:45,720 --> 01:55:47,840
Speaker 2: and then expect to just walk through that.

2711
01:55:48,080 --> 01:55:50,040
Speaker 1: I am totally I do not know what he's asking for.

2712
01:55:50,640 --> 01:55:52,520
Speaker 1: He's going to get it eventually. And finally, in boxing,

2713
01:55:52,600 --> 01:55:54,080
Speaker 1: Luke Chris Cyborg.

2714
01:55:54,760 --> 01:55:57,240
Speaker 2: Four and now she put the knuckles to this woman.

2715
01:55:57,280 --> 01:55:58,760
Speaker 2: I don't know what she does for a living, but.

2716
01:55:59,120 --> 01:56:02,160
Speaker 1: And then she put out a did you see the

2717
01:56:02,160 --> 01:56:05,480
Speaker 1: tweet she put out? She's basically ripping Claressa Shields for

2718
01:56:05,960 --> 01:56:09,120
Speaker 1: having two knockouts in her career, and Cyborg's like, I

2719
01:56:09,160 --> 01:56:09,840
Speaker 1: got four fights and.

2720
01:56:09,840 --> 01:56:13,320
Speaker 2: Four knockouts right. Also, she's fighting, you know, lunch ladies,

2721
01:56:13,440 --> 01:56:14,600
Speaker 2: she's fighting, She's fighting.

2722
01:56:14,680 --> 01:56:17,640
Speaker 1: Uber Driver doesn't feel it. So Cyborg's still openly tweeting

2723
01:56:17,760 --> 01:56:20,040
Speaker 1: her anger with PFL at he for not getting her.

2724
01:56:20,160 --> 01:56:22,600
Speaker 2: So this was it was interesting. Pfl put out a

2725
01:56:22,640 --> 01:56:25,960
Speaker 2: graphic on social media on whatever day she fought, and

2726
01:56:26,000 --> 01:56:28,240
Speaker 2: that was like, you know, we wish you best of luck,

2727
01:56:29,520 --> 01:56:32,960
Speaker 2: Chris Cyborg, and I'm like, or just Booker an mma,

2728
01:56:33,160 --> 01:56:34,840
Speaker 2: I would just what the fuck?

2729
01:56:35,280 --> 01:56:37,240
Speaker 1: I wonder if she can get herself. Remember she was

2730
01:56:37,320 --> 01:56:38,680
Speaker 1: trying to fight Katie Taylor at one point. Do you

2731
01:56:38,720 --> 01:56:40,280
Speaker 1: ever think she gets into a really big box.

2732
01:56:40,360 --> 01:56:43,080
Speaker 2: Like of anybody who's got a chance, Chris Cyborg's got.

2733
01:56:43,040 --> 01:56:45,560
Speaker 1: A chance, crack, there's no doubt, all right, Luke. You

2734
01:56:45,560 --> 01:56:46,760
Speaker 1: know I didn't get to ask him when he came

2735
01:56:46,760 --> 01:56:49,240
Speaker 1: into studio, Hey man, who cuts your hair? But I

2736
01:56:49,280 --> 01:56:51,560
Speaker 1: found out where what Barbara Craig Jones goes to, let's

2737
01:56:51,560 --> 01:56:51,840
Speaker 1: watch it.

2738
01:56:53,840 --> 01:56:55,440
Speaker 2: I can't hear anything you're not supposed to.

2739
01:56:55,720 --> 01:56:57,280
Speaker 1: So he turned down the beer. Oh that's that's what

2740
01:56:57,360 --> 01:57:01,120
Speaker 1: he wants, Luke. Oh yeah, yeah, there it is. That's

2741
01:57:01,320 --> 01:57:01,920
Speaker 1: that's that's.

2742
01:57:04,280 --> 01:57:04,720
Speaker 2: All away.

2743
01:57:04,800 --> 01:57:08,000
Speaker 1: All right, great week for sports fights in the crowd, Luke,

2744
01:57:08,040 --> 01:57:10,240
Speaker 1: which is always your favorite. Let's go to the Celtics

2745
01:57:10,640 --> 01:57:12,839
Speaker 1: NBA Finals game on No first we got sorry.

2746
01:57:12,680 --> 01:57:15,280
Speaker 2: First really too. Yeah, and this moron on the right

2747
01:57:15,440 --> 01:57:18,560
Speaker 2: is like, hit me brow, hit me brow like his

2748
01:57:18,680 --> 01:57:22,040
Speaker 2: car got his car got repoted in the parking lot.

2749
01:57:22,600 --> 01:57:25,560
Speaker 2: And then finally he begs the other guy. The guy

2750
01:57:25,680 --> 01:57:27,919
Speaker 2: was like, all right, I mean I love taking requests.

2751
01:57:28,720 --> 01:57:31,320
Speaker 2: So then he fucking does it and then beats and

2752
01:57:31,560 --> 01:57:33,720
Speaker 2: beats the bags off of him to watch this ship.

2753
01:57:33,800 --> 01:57:36,720
Speaker 2: This is great. Ah falls backwards.

2754
01:57:36,720 --> 01:57:39,560
Speaker 1: Wow he fell after landing, he gets back up and watch.

2755
01:57:39,560 --> 01:57:42,920
Speaker 2: Proceeds to beat the ship out of this guy. Come on, guys,

2756
01:57:43,360 --> 01:57:44,480
Speaker 2: let's settle this like men.

2757
01:57:44,560 --> 01:57:46,680
Speaker 1: You know, he wants to smoke like Corge Capaccillo did

2758
01:57:46,720 --> 01:57:47,800
Speaker 1: it that he has mons.

2759
01:57:48,320 --> 01:57:51,760
Speaker 2: He look at this boom sends him flying and tumbling.

2760
01:57:51,960 --> 01:57:53,880
Speaker 2: And I gotta tell you, dude, the fist fights that

2761
01:57:53,920 --> 01:57:56,400
Speaker 2: are gonna happen at the sphere. Yes, dude, I'm actually

2762
01:57:56,480 --> 01:57:58,760
Speaker 2: worried about that because if you you start following down

2763
01:57:58,800 --> 01:57:59,960
Speaker 2: one of those steep ass there.

2764
01:58:00,000 --> 01:58:02,040
Speaker 1: I feel like they have the adequate protection to protect,

2765
01:58:02,160 --> 01:58:04,720
Speaker 1: to protect you from falling, like three hundred stares down.

2766
01:58:04,840 --> 01:58:06,960
Speaker 2: Yeah you don't. So there's gonna be some backs broken.

2767
01:58:07,040 --> 01:58:07,680
Speaker 2: At the sphere.

2768
01:58:07,840 --> 01:58:09,680
Speaker 1: I saw a couple of middle aged women take real

2769
01:58:09,720 --> 01:58:11,720
Speaker 1: bad falls on the did Yeah, but people because it's

2770
01:58:11,720 --> 01:58:13,440
Speaker 1: the dead Cots. People from the crowd came running and

2771
01:58:13,640 --> 01:58:16,400
Speaker 1: were they so I'm sure? I don't know. I mean,

2772
01:58:16,400 --> 01:58:17,760
Speaker 1: there were a lot of people on asset at that

2773
01:58:17,840 --> 01:58:21,240
Speaker 1: concert to be there, you knew. All right, let's we're

2774
01:58:21,280 --> 01:58:22,400
Speaker 1: missing one of it. I don't know if we have

2775
01:58:22,440 --> 01:58:24,320
Speaker 1: the Celtics fight. We got one more fight from the

2776
01:58:24,360 --> 01:58:25,840
Speaker 1: crowd where we got here? Is it? Or is it

2777
01:58:25,920 --> 01:58:27,800
Speaker 1: the hockey one? Why don't you show me long on?

2778
01:58:28,240 --> 01:58:29,760
Speaker 2: We got next? They can't hear you long on luc

2779
01:58:29,880 --> 01:58:32,080
Speaker 2: acid do but think about it, right? They come here

2780
01:58:32,240 --> 01:58:36,160
Speaker 2: for nine innings, they're just sitting back all night.

2781
01:58:37,400 --> 01:58:40,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, getting strokes all night long? All right, I think

2782
01:58:40,440 --> 01:58:41,120
Speaker 1: that I will.

2783
01:58:41,160 --> 01:58:42,680
Speaker 2: I will tell you, dude. I keep saying that the

2784
01:58:43,000 --> 01:58:44,880
Speaker 2: pitch clock and the ore, the clocks they put on,

2785
01:58:45,040 --> 01:58:50,160
Speaker 2: like there's a clock prote dude. It has transformed baseball

2786
01:58:50,280 --> 01:58:51,800
Speaker 2: for me. I love going to games.

2787
01:58:51,840 --> 01:58:53,480
Speaker 1: Now, I gotta get that Celtics fight back. And then

2788
01:58:53,520 --> 01:58:55,040
Speaker 1: you see that fight in the crowd I'm talking about.

2789
01:58:55,960 --> 01:58:57,240
Speaker 2: At the game with the MAVs.

2790
01:58:57,400 --> 01:58:58,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, fo, no, it was a game two.

2791
01:58:59,000 --> 01:59:01,800
Speaker 2: Oh no, it was oh and it was like, wait,

2792
01:59:01,920 --> 01:59:02,840
Speaker 2: so it was a white guy.

2793
01:59:02,840 --> 01:59:04,520
Speaker 1: Like I was lighting up the fatter white guy that

2794
01:59:04,600 --> 01:59:05,880
Speaker 1: was sitting down, and then he.

2795
01:59:06,040 --> 01:59:07,640
Speaker 2: Wakes up and then immediately starts trying to find a

2796
01:59:07,680 --> 01:59:08,480
Speaker 2: black guy for no reason.

2797
01:59:08,480 --> 01:59:10,880
Speaker 1: I didn't see the end of him West Boston.

2798
01:59:10,920 --> 01:59:12,320
Speaker 2: I mean, they're just racist as ship up there.

2799
01:59:12,320 --> 01:59:14,040
Speaker 1: All right, let's keep going with the baseball theme. What

2800
01:59:14,080 --> 01:59:14,600
Speaker 1: do we got next.

2801
01:59:16,160 --> 01:59:19,120
Speaker 2: I've never seen this happen before. Okay, he yards it

2802
01:59:19,160 --> 01:59:26,680
Speaker 2: and what happens, Oh, doomed right on the head. They say,

2803
01:59:26,760 --> 01:59:28,800
Speaker 2: don't do the bat flip. It's bad. It's bad. You know,

2804
01:59:29,480 --> 01:59:31,240
Speaker 2: baseball detritions and ship.

2805
01:59:31,920 --> 01:59:35,200
Speaker 1: Batista the best one. Let's go to the batting cage. Look,

2806
01:59:35,240 --> 01:59:36,400
Speaker 1: you do have to be careful to be a big

2807
01:59:36,440 --> 01:59:37,680
Speaker 1: batting cage guy. I used to be.

2808
01:59:37,720 --> 01:59:38,800
Speaker 2: I haven't done all the time.

2809
01:59:38,840 --> 01:59:39,720
Speaker 1: This guy used to be too.

2810
01:59:40,320 --> 01:59:41,520
Speaker 2: This guy, let's it's been a while.

2811
01:59:42,560 --> 01:59:46,680
Speaker 1: You gotta dig in, you gotta get ready up to

2812
01:59:46,760 --> 01:59:50,480
Speaker 1: a hiccup Dad, Wow, oh wow, Luke. Ballpark food can

2813
01:59:50,520 --> 01:59:53,480
Speaker 1: be really expensive, so this next fan decided to make

2814
01:59:53,560 --> 01:59:54,400
Speaker 1: his own dinner.

2815
01:59:54,480 --> 01:59:59,520
Speaker 2: All right, well pick that note, fucking animal you ate?

2816
02:00:00,040 --> 02:00:02,280
Speaker 1: Oh that's you are.

2817
02:00:02,480 --> 02:00:05,000
Speaker 2: Do you see this? And you're like, of course we're primates. Yeah,

2818
02:00:05,080 --> 02:00:06,240
Speaker 2: Darwins had to know.

2819
02:00:06,360 --> 02:00:08,880
Speaker 1: That guy looks like a distinguished professional though, and he's

2820
02:00:08,880 --> 02:00:10,760
Speaker 1: still like, yeah, double I'll double it, I'll double up,

2821
02:00:10,760 --> 02:00:11,480
Speaker 1: I'll double bag it.

2822
02:00:11,760 --> 02:00:13,200
Speaker 2: Where's a car accident when you need one?

2823
02:00:13,440 --> 02:00:15,720
Speaker 1: Luke, you challenged me last week and said, not enough

2824
02:00:15,840 --> 02:00:19,280
Speaker 1: white people hitting their face on the ground after attempting escape.

2825
02:00:19,320 --> 02:00:20,840
Speaker 2: I don't have to be just whites, but it does

2826
02:00:20,960 --> 02:00:21,560
Speaker 2: at a little extra.

2827
02:00:21,720 --> 02:00:23,840
Speaker 1: Well, the topic of topic five is white people are

2828
02:00:23,880 --> 02:00:24,920
Speaker 1: gonna white. So here we go.

2829
02:00:25,080 --> 02:00:33,200
Speaker 2: Looke, let's see it, let's see this dumbass yup fuck off? Wow, yeah, dude,

2830
02:00:33,240 --> 02:00:34,920
Speaker 2: are you doing Greg lugainis joke?

2831
02:00:35,040 --> 02:00:36,640
Speaker 1: Yeah? Oh that's old I am doing.

2832
02:00:36,760 --> 02:00:41,360
Speaker 2: I mean this is forty year old material. Literally, Oh,

2833
02:00:41,440 --> 02:00:44,160
Speaker 2: let's check out our scorebe show of hands back there

2834
02:00:44,200 --> 02:00:46,920
Speaker 2: in the production room. Who knows who Greg lugainis is

2835
02:00:48,400 --> 02:00:51,400
Speaker 2: not a soul? He hit his head on the diving

2836
02:00:51,440 --> 02:00:53,200
Speaker 2: board and he ended turned out he had HIV. It

2837
02:00:53,280 --> 02:00:54,520
Speaker 2: was the whole thing, And the Luke.

2838
02:00:54,440 --> 02:00:56,160
Speaker 1: Would say, it's not your Snyder knows who he is,

2839
02:00:56,280 --> 02:00:57,800
Speaker 1: no one else. Snyder's an old soul. It's not your

2840
02:00:57,840 --> 02:01:00,960
Speaker 1: guy's fault that you were born in nine ninety. All right, Luke,

2841
02:01:01,040 --> 02:01:03,240
Speaker 1: let's keep this going. Here's our scorpion of the week

2842
02:01:03,240 --> 02:01:04,040
Speaker 1: from the grocery store.

2843
02:01:04,040 --> 02:01:04,400
Speaker 2: Watch this.

2844
02:01:07,120 --> 02:01:08,960
Speaker 1: You ever do this with dukes? Just you know, ride

2845
02:01:08,960 --> 02:01:09,800
Speaker 1: the cart down the aisle.

2846
02:01:10,000 --> 02:01:12,200
Speaker 2: She wants me to do this. Get in there. I'll

2847
02:01:12,240 --> 02:01:13,200
Speaker 2: just break your back up.

2848
02:01:13,280 --> 02:01:16,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, that guy's not coming back, Darwin Award. All right,

2849
02:01:16,280 --> 02:01:18,360
Speaker 1: let's get on the BMX bike. Let's hit the trails.

2850
02:01:19,720 --> 02:01:21,360
Speaker 2: BMX is big in Columbia. By the way.

2851
02:01:21,520 --> 02:01:27,360
Speaker 1: Oh yo, that's called a facial Luke.

2852
02:01:27,760 --> 02:01:30,000
Speaker 2: That is an innovative way to go logging.

2853
02:01:30,200 --> 02:01:33,000
Speaker 1: Holy fuck, could you break a log like that? Don't know,

2854
02:01:33,360 --> 02:01:34,560
Speaker 1: never been attacked by tree?

2855
02:01:34,880 --> 02:01:36,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, fantastic for everything.

2856
02:01:36,880 --> 02:01:38,960
Speaker 1: All right, all right, let's go to the water here. Wow,

2857
02:01:39,040 --> 02:01:40,360
Speaker 1: this is getting good here, we're heating up.

2858
02:01:41,840 --> 02:01:44,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's these are these are the whites.

2859
02:01:44,880 --> 02:01:46,920
Speaker 1: Oh nice, try on that, you know what I mean?

2860
02:01:47,000 --> 02:01:53,320
Speaker 1: He tried, Luke? Oh you got jacked up.

2861
02:01:53,360 --> 02:01:56,160
Speaker 2: Remember an ESPN used to do that, Dude, ESPN for

2862
02:01:56,200 --> 02:01:59,280
Speaker 2: folks who don't remember it, used to do a football

2863
02:01:59,440 --> 02:02:05,360
Speaker 2: highlight segment that was literally ct CTE this week.

2864
02:02:06,080 --> 02:02:08,360
Speaker 1: Indeed, now we do that. Here, we got one more

2865
02:02:08,560 --> 02:02:15,440
Speaker 1: fatality for you on the skateboard. Finish here. Yeah, he's finished, Luke,

2866
02:02:15,520 --> 02:02:20,840
Speaker 1: he has finished. You're right, Wow, finish him, Luke. You

2867
02:02:20,920 --> 02:02:23,400
Speaker 1: never want to get rear ended in an automobile, but

2868
02:02:23,520 --> 02:02:28,560
Speaker 1: especially not from this car. I mean, let you're into that,

2869
02:02:28,680 --> 02:02:31,640
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Metals hot dogs, that's a glizzy.

2870
02:02:31,800 --> 02:02:33,560
Speaker 1: All right, it's time for our T shirts of the week.

2871
02:02:34,600 --> 02:02:35,760
Speaker 2: Girls who could take that one down?

2872
02:02:36,080 --> 02:02:37,200
Speaker 1: Look? You ever meet God before?

2873
02:02:37,720 --> 02:02:39,640
Speaker 2: I am the god of fuck.

2874
02:02:42,000 --> 02:02:44,920
Speaker 1: Okay, let's go to some better T shirts. Let's keep

2875
02:02:44,960 --> 02:02:45,520
Speaker 1: it working.

2876
02:02:47,200 --> 02:02:50,920
Speaker 2: I got lockjaw doing graveyard shifts at the Oh do

2877
02:02:51,000 --> 02:02:51,720
Speaker 2: you have to read this?

2878
02:02:52,080 --> 02:02:54,120
Speaker 1: You don't have to, Luke at.

2879
02:02:54,040 --> 02:02:56,720
Speaker 2: The d Sucking Factory, And all I got was lockjaw.

2880
02:02:56,800 --> 02:02:58,280
Speaker 2: Has previously mentioned.

2881
02:02:58,240 --> 02:03:00,960
Speaker 1: Seems extra wordy. They could have they could really, if

2882
02:03:00,960 --> 02:03:02,120
Speaker 1: you got lockjaw.

2883
02:03:01,840 --> 02:03:03,120
Speaker 2: Maybe make that a shorter step.

2884
02:03:03,360 --> 02:03:03,520
Speaker 5: Yeah.

2885
02:03:03,560 --> 02:03:05,720
Speaker 1: Statement, Look, I'm a big fan of seratonin, and so

2886
02:03:05,920 --> 02:03:06,440
Speaker 1: is this lady.

2887
02:03:07,600 --> 02:03:10,120
Speaker 2: I wish I had serotonin instead of this huge cock.

2888
02:03:10,880 --> 02:03:13,440
Speaker 2: All right, that's all right, take her home to mom.

2889
02:03:13,480 --> 02:03:13,600
Speaker 2: You know.

2890
02:03:13,680 --> 02:03:15,600
Speaker 1: Look, you ever hear that hit song Conn of Lingus

2891
02:03:15,880 --> 02:03:16,240
Speaker 1: and Wonder.

2892
02:03:16,440 --> 02:03:19,360
Speaker 2: I know the rapping group Cunning Linguists.

2893
02:03:19,480 --> 02:03:21,560
Speaker 1: Oh well, this guy recorded it. Check this out.

2894
02:03:24,520 --> 02:03:26,520
Speaker 2: Okay, that's a little much, that's.

2895
02:03:28,320 --> 02:03:32,680
Speaker 1: Luke, you're stop that. I'll beat your ass. Yes, Luke,

2896
02:03:32,720 --> 02:03:36,120
Speaker 1: your new bed from Ikea has arrived with the that's

2897
02:03:36,120 --> 02:03:37,760
Speaker 1: not going to make it custom alteration.

2898
02:03:37,840 --> 02:03:39,320
Speaker 2: I think I grabbed the wrong bed frame from the

2899
02:03:39,400 --> 02:03:43,680
Speaker 2: Ikea warehouse. Yeah, buddy, that's yeah, that's not the right one.

2900
02:03:43,880 --> 02:03:46,400
Speaker 1: Luke, Turkey Alaska is about to take over and save boxing.

2901
02:03:46,440 --> 02:03:48,200
Speaker 1: I've got some ideas on how he can fix it.

2902
02:03:48,280 --> 02:03:51,120
Speaker 1: Let's see the first one new meaning to box truck.

2903
02:03:51,240 --> 02:03:57,200
Speaker 2: Right there is a drive by shooter. You know what

2904
02:03:57,200 --> 02:04:01,520
Speaker 2: I'm saying, must be what they call this fight. Yes,

2905
02:04:02,280 --> 02:04:04,040
Speaker 2: if I have a gas fight every night under the

2906
02:04:04,280 --> 02:04:06,240
Speaker 2: under the in my com meeting, you know what I'm

2907
02:04:06,280 --> 02:04:06,760
Speaker 2: talking about.

2908
02:04:07,960 --> 02:04:12,640
Speaker 1: Dungarees. Luke, there is actually a promotion called weed boxing.

2909
02:04:12,760 --> 02:04:15,000
Speaker 1: We need to get with these people. Watch this commercial

2910
02:04:15,040 --> 02:04:15,760
Speaker 1: for weed boxing.

2911
02:04:17,480 --> 02:04:18,320
Speaker 2: Weed boxing.

2912
02:04:19,200 --> 02:04:22,360
Speaker 1: So the premise is it's like high rollers, right for

2913
02:04:22,480 --> 02:04:25,520
Speaker 1: jiu JITs. You get high and then you fight you

2914
02:04:25,640 --> 02:04:27,480
Speaker 1: down with this? How do I sign up? Yeah?

2915
02:04:28,920 --> 02:04:31,320
Speaker 2: Guys, I have an idea. What if we all smoked

2916
02:04:31,360 --> 02:04:36,960
Speaker 2: the weed and then didn't fist fight? Wouldn't that be better?

2917
02:04:37,160 --> 02:04:38,440
Speaker 1: Dude? Look at this guy. Look at this guy in

2918
02:04:38,440 --> 02:04:39,960
Speaker 1: the winter circle with the bong. I feel like we

2919
02:04:40,000 --> 02:04:41,839
Speaker 1: can be the We should be able to be the announcers.

2920
02:04:42,000 --> 02:04:44,480
Speaker 2: I would like to Okay, if weed boxing is watching this,

2921
02:04:44,640 --> 02:04:46,600
Speaker 2: please put the camera on me in BC. Not just me,

2922
02:04:46,720 --> 02:04:49,600
Speaker 2: but BC two weed boxing people. We would like to

2923
02:04:49,680 --> 02:04:52,200
Speaker 2: be your commentators. Hey, please fly us out and pay

2924
02:04:52,280 --> 02:04:55,440
Speaker 2: us in marijuana. We will accept the terms of this conversation.

2925
02:04:55,560 --> 02:04:57,520
Speaker 1: Okay, we haven't had Jim fail fails and while you

2926
02:04:58,240 --> 02:05:00,240
Speaker 1: love Jim fails. All right, let's go to the dead lift.

2927
02:05:01,760 --> 02:05:05,760
Speaker 2: Oh, you can't be showing depths on this.

2928
02:05:06,600 --> 02:05:09,040
Speaker 1: I said it was a dead lift, look right, you know, Oh.

2929
02:05:09,080 --> 02:05:12,360
Speaker 2: God, that's not a deadlift. That's a jerk. But he

2930
02:05:12,480 --> 02:05:13,880
Speaker 2: got well, it is a jerk.

2931
02:05:14,120 --> 02:05:16,040
Speaker 1: I got another example of a dead lift. Let's keep

2932
02:05:16,040 --> 02:05:16,720
Speaker 1: the next one going.

2933
02:05:17,600 --> 02:05:20,560
Speaker 2: Is he gonna pee? Oh no, he's gonna go face first.

2934
02:05:24,040 --> 02:05:24,320
Speaker 1: A lot.

2935
02:05:24,400 --> 02:05:26,120
Speaker 2: I just have to say a lot of times they pee.

2936
02:05:26,480 --> 02:05:28,680
Speaker 1: Look, what do you think Dimitri beev All takes when

2937
02:05:28,720 --> 02:05:30,960
Speaker 1: he's just like wild'n out when it's time to get lit.

2938
02:05:31,080 --> 02:05:31,760
Speaker 1: What do you think he does?

2939
02:05:31,760 --> 02:05:32,760
Speaker 2: Isn't he devout Muslim?

2940
02:05:32,920 --> 02:05:36,040
Speaker 1: Let's hear from him? Do you do for funny? What

2941
02:05:36,200 --> 02:05:36,400
Speaker 1: they do?

2942
02:05:36,840 --> 02:05:38,960
Speaker 2: What do you do? Huh?

2943
02:05:40,480 --> 02:05:43,960
Speaker 5: Drink conco hole gary and everything?

2944
02:05:44,240 --> 02:05:45,879
Speaker 1: Okay, what's your favorite alcohol?

2945
02:05:46,760 --> 02:05:47,360
Speaker 5: I'm joking.

2946
02:05:47,440 --> 02:05:48,000
Speaker 2: I'm joking.

2947
02:05:48,480 --> 02:05:52,720
Speaker 1: I'm joking, Harrow.

2948
02:05:52,960 --> 02:05:54,200
Speaker 2: You could have told me. I'd have been like, right,

2949
02:05:54,280 --> 02:05:55,360
Speaker 2: that's what I do as well.

2950
02:05:55,520 --> 02:06:00,200
Speaker 1: Indeed, sign signs Luke everywhere they're signs right well, sucking

2951
02:06:00,280 --> 02:06:03,240
Speaker 1: up the scenery. Do this, don't do that?

2952
02:06:03,720 --> 02:06:05,440
Speaker 2: I love coming well, I.

2953
02:06:06,440 --> 02:06:07,720
Speaker 1: Shout out to Augusta, Maine.

2954
02:06:07,760 --> 02:06:07,960
Speaker 2: Luke.

2955
02:06:08,000 --> 02:06:09,720
Speaker 1: There are some weird people up in Maine. You know that, right?

2956
02:06:09,880 --> 02:06:11,480
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think we have any fans.

2957
02:06:11,640 --> 02:06:14,160
Speaker 2: Just give me to the Canadians and call it wow.

2958
02:06:14,560 --> 02:06:16,920
Speaker 1: Just give it to the piquette you can have there

2959
02:06:16,960 --> 02:06:17,120
Speaker 1: you go.

2960
02:06:17,440 --> 02:06:18,360
Speaker 2: I heard good things about it.

2961
02:06:18,400 --> 02:06:20,720
Speaker 1: But yeah, look, you ever been to this place before?

2962
02:06:22,280 --> 02:06:26,120
Speaker 2: Boner Land had most mornings the morn beaches.

2963
02:06:26,360 --> 02:06:27,680
Speaker 1: They have those at the Columbian Beaches.

2964
02:06:27,880 --> 02:06:30,880
Speaker 2: These sons, yeah, they got big ass lamb though.

2965
02:06:31,040 --> 02:06:32,560
Speaker 1: All right, we got one more sign for you.

2966
02:06:35,360 --> 02:06:37,760
Speaker 2: Pierced titties taste like house keys.

2967
02:06:39,640 --> 02:06:41,480
Speaker 1: Can you can you confirm her? Did? I?

2968
02:06:41,640 --> 02:06:45,040
Speaker 2: Look? It may or may not be correct?

2969
02:06:46,000 --> 02:06:47,360
Speaker 1: All right, your street fight of the week.

2970
02:06:47,440 --> 02:06:51,480
Speaker 2: Let's check out banks. We saw it could be pierce titties.

2971
02:06:51,640 --> 02:06:53,640
Speaker 1: Just like watch this fight.

2972
02:06:54,080 --> 02:06:56,600
Speaker 2: What the fireman's carry kind.

2973
02:06:56,440 --> 02:06:59,880
Speaker 1: Of slam sidewalk slam?

2974
02:07:00,080 --> 02:07:01,960
Speaker 2: He got he he kind of took the kick, but

2975
02:07:02,000 --> 02:07:04,120
Speaker 2: then he hits like the high single to an Iranian

2976
02:07:04,680 --> 02:07:07,720
Speaker 2: sort of, and then just says, fuck it, I'm gonna

2977
02:07:07,760 --> 02:07:10,240
Speaker 2: come right on top on your fucking ribs and then

2978
02:07:10,280 --> 02:07:12,920
Speaker 2: he crashes on top of you. God where where in

2979
02:07:13,000 --> 02:07:13,640
Speaker 2: Russia was this?

2980
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Speaker 1: Probably? Yes? Probably, indeed, yes, that's the answer, you big

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02:07:17,480 --> 02:07:18,160
Speaker 1: billiards guy.

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02:07:18,880 --> 02:07:20,280
Speaker 2: I used to play billiards back in the day.

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02:07:20,280 --> 02:07:21,800
Speaker 1: All right, I watched this trick shot. You ever pull

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02:07:21,880 --> 02:07:30,880
Speaker 1: this off? I mean he used the grundle perfectly to

2985
02:07:31,000 --> 02:07:31,680
Speaker 1: just balance the.

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02:07:32,640 --> 02:07:36,520
Speaker 2: Okay, this is disturbing. I can't believe they're white, by

2987
02:07:36,520 --> 02:07:40,080
Speaker 2: the way, the totally out of care.

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02:07:40,280 --> 02:07:41,880
Speaker 1: Let's go to the mosh pit for our final ko

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02:07:41,960 --> 02:07:43,080
Speaker 1: of the week. Luke rate this one.

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Speaker 2: Okay, all right, I think I've seen this one before.

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02:07:46,840 --> 02:07:48,800
Speaker 2: Oh he's asking for it. He's doing the oleo Santa

2992
02:07:48,840 --> 02:07:54,280
Speaker 2: Cruz to tink. Oh dude, play that one again. Here

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02:07:54,320 --> 02:07:55,640
Speaker 2: we go, Here we go.

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02:07:56,200 --> 02:08:03,000
Speaker 1: You toast? Do you you got jack Sooners? Good lord,

2995
02:08:03,560 --> 02:08:04,800
Speaker 1: damn dude, you know what?

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02:08:06,280 --> 02:08:09,560
Speaker 2: Pay it one more time. I have to pull my

2997
02:08:09,600 --> 02:08:13,280
Speaker 2: pants up. This feels so good to watch this. Look

2998
02:08:13,360 --> 02:08:20,120
Speaker 2: at this, dude, that's as good as any elbow you'll

2999
02:08:20,120 --> 02:08:20,920
Speaker 2: see in pro mma.

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02:08:21,080 --> 02:08:22,360
Speaker 1: That's all the ship I got this weekend.

3001
02:08:22,440 --> 02:08:24,680
Speaker 2: I have seen. I saw a woman at a Cannibal

3002
02:08:24,760 --> 02:08:26,800
Speaker 2: Corpse concert. I've haven't told you this before.

3003
02:08:26,920 --> 02:08:28,080
Speaker 1: No, they don't have women at Cannibal.

3004
02:08:28,800 --> 02:08:31,320
Speaker 2: They actually have a surprising amount besides your lovely wife.

3005
02:08:31,360 --> 02:08:32,000
Speaker 1: She goes, she goes.

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02:08:32,240 --> 02:08:34,760
Speaker 2: She stays out of the fray, though, so do I.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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02:08:35,920 --> 02:08:38,360
Speaker 2: We were up on the secondary level. We were looking

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02:08:38,440 --> 02:08:40,160
Speaker 2: down at the mosh pit and there was this girl

3010
02:08:40,200 --> 02:08:42,240
Speaker 2: out there. She was actually pretty attractive. I couldn't believe it.

3011
02:08:43,160 --> 02:08:47,360
Speaker 2: Dude just knuckling up with everybody, just like punching everyone

3012
02:08:47,600 --> 02:08:49,920
Speaker 2: in sight. And I remember saying to my wife like,

3013
02:08:49,960 --> 02:08:51,280
Speaker 2: look at this, look at this, because dude, she was

3014
02:08:51,360 --> 02:08:54,200
Speaker 2: fucking bob And I'm like, this is gonna come back

3015
02:08:54,240 --> 02:08:56,600
Speaker 2: on her times a billion, like this is just not good.

3016
02:08:57,080 --> 02:08:59,480
Speaker 2: She gets through, like, I'm not kidding. Ten songs and

3017
02:08:59,560 --> 02:09:00,280
Speaker 2: nothing do that.

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02:09:00,480 --> 02:09:01,400
Speaker 1: The grateful did show at all.

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02:09:01,560 --> 02:09:03,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, at the eleventh show of the eleventh song, I

3020
02:09:04,200 --> 02:09:06,400
Speaker 2: didn't see what happened, except I saw the aftermath and

3021
02:09:06,480 --> 02:09:09,040
Speaker 2: she had blood streaming out of her nose like that

3022
02:09:09,200 --> 02:09:10,640
Speaker 2: somebody hit her with the bop gun.

3023
02:09:10,880 --> 02:09:13,760
Speaker 1: You're a big fan of the Fray. Where was that song?

3024
02:09:13,800 --> 02:09:15,360
Speaker 1: You know they got? They got a few jams, you.

3025
02:09:15,360 --> 02:09:16,600
Speaker 2: Know a song I'll be listening to a little bit.

3026
02:09:16,680 --> 02:09:19,200
Speaker 2: Go Jira or whether the band go Jira, I don't

3027
02:09:19,200 --> 02:09:21,640
Speaker 2: know them. They're a French metal band. Do they do

3028
02:09:21,840 --> 02:09:24,560
Speaker 2: rowing or I've never been to one of their shows

3029
02:09:24,640 --> 02:09:27,160
Speaker 2: Viking paddling or no, they don't do the Viking rowing.

3030
02:09:27,200 --> 02:09:30,080
Speaker 2: I've had people email me about that, being like it's

3031
02:09:30,160 --> 02:09:32,760
Speaker 2: so cringe when you describe that that, it's actually like

3032
02:09:33,200 --> 02:09:36,200
Speaker 2: it makes them uncomfortable to even me to articulate what

3033
02:09:36,240 --> 02:09:38,000
Speaker 2: other people are doing when it's that cringe. Have you

3034
02:09:38,040 --> 02:09:40,520
Speaker 2: ever seen that gaff the Viking rowing?

3035
02:09:40,640 --> 02:09:42,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's pretty lame. I'll have to get that into

3036
02:09:42,160 --> 02:09:43,760
Speaker 1: have you seen this shit next week? But that's all

3037
02:09:43,800 --> 02:09:46,560
Speaker 1: we got for this week. So, Luke, programming update, you're

3038
02:09:46,760 --> 02:09:48,960
Speaker 1: you're basically saying that we're coming back this week. You

3039
02:09:49,080 --> 02:09:49,880
Speaker 1: have C Saudi Arabia.

3040
02:09:49,880 --> 02:09:51,720
Speaker 2: We should do something for UFC Saudi Arabia. We'll do

3041
02:09:51,800 --> 02:09:53,040
Speaker 2: a preview of it. How about that?

3042
02:09:53,160 --> 02:09:56,320
Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, I'm into it, all right, any day, any day.

3043
02:09:57,240 --> 02:09:59,920
Speaker 2: We'll probably put that out Friday. But we have to

3044
02:10:00,000 --> 02:10:01,760
Speaker 2: figure that out, all right. I don't want to make

3045
02:10:01,760 --> 02:10:02,560
Speaker 2: any promises.

3046
02:10:02,240 --> 02:10:04,000
Speaker 1: About that part, but just work in progress. But we're

3047
02:10:04,000 --> 02:10:04,360
Speaker 1: getting there.

3048
02:10:04,360 --> 02:10:05,680
Speaker 2: We'll get something for Thank you to.

3049
02:10:05,680 --> 02:10:08,720
Speaker 1: Our fantastic team from Long Island, Luke to the return

3050
02:10:08,800 --> 02:10:11,600
Speaker 1: of gaff Man. I love that guy, Beefany, Jim, Greg.

3051
02:10:11,880 --> 02:10:14,040
Speaker 2: A lot of people here who've lost jobs, a lot

3052
02:10:14,160 --> 02:10:14,480
Speaker 2: of people.

3053
02:10:16,920 --> 02:10:18,560
Speaker 1: I mean I lost most of my job. But yeah,

3054
02:10:18,600 --> 02:10:21,760
Speaker 1: that's that's it. That's neither here nor there. One day

3055
02:10:21,800 --> 02:10:23,800
Speaker 1: I'll be back broadcasting fights. You'll see and I.

3056
02:10:23,840 --> 02:10:26,760
Speaker 2: Hope everyone understands we love them. We appreciate everyone's support.

3057
02:10:27,800 --> 02:10:31,360
Speaker 2: Uh do. We're drowning most days, so got us some

3058
02:10:31,480 --> 02:10:32,040
Speaker 2: slack please.

3059
02:10:32,080 --> 02:10:34,480
Speaker 1: By the way, did you see episode one of Last

3060
02:10:34,560 --> 02:10:36,960
Speaker 1: man Standing, the pre fight documentary series for Nat Diez

3061
02:10:37,040 --> 02:10:38,520
Speaker 1: versus Horriey Mas with a lot of BC in it.

3062
02:10:38,560 --> 02:10:40,640
Speaker 1: So I was a fan of it. It's actually very

3063
02:10:40,640 --> 02:10:42,560
Speaker 1: well done. So I encourage everyone to head to the

3064
02:10:42,640 --> 02:10:44,280
Speaker 1: fan Meo YouTube page and check that out.

3065
02:10:44,320 --> 02:10:45,880
Speaker 2: I did not Are you are you working that fight?

3066
02:10:46,040 --> 02:10:47,520
Speaker 2: I am? You know what you're doing yet?

3067
02:10:47,680 --> 02:10:49,720
Speaker 1: I believe I am in ring interview?

3068
02:10:51,520 --> 02:10:52,360
Speaker 2: Are they paying your good?

3069
02:10:53,120 --> 02:10:53,840
Speaker 1: I can't comment on that.

3070
02:10:54,000 --> 02:10:55,400
Speaker 2: Let me ask you this. I know what you made

3071
02:10:55,440 --> 02:10:56,160
Speaker 2: to do that for show time.

3072
02:10:56,200 --> 02:10:57,800
Speaker 1: I can't comment on anything publicly. That's the end of

3073
02:10:57,840 --> 02:10:59,240
Speaker 1: the show. Okay, that's all I got for here.

3074
02:10:59,600 --> 02:11:00,920
Speaker 2: How does it match what you got?

3075
02:11:01,040 --> 02:11:03,520
Speaker 1: Actually know yet? We're in negotiations. Figure out, we'll get there.

3076
02:11:04,120 --> 02:11:06,720
Speaker 1: July six, Right, July six, Anaheim, let's do it. Hey,

3077
02:11:06,840 --> 02:11:08,560
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a fun night. Dan Jacobs is back,

3078
02:11:08,560 --> 02:11:13,960
Speaker 1: all right? I uh, Anthony Pettis, Chris avi law.

3079
02:11:13,920 --> 02:11:15,920
Speaker 2: Isn't Anthony Pettis fighting.

3080
02:11:17,000 --> 02:11:19,840
Speaker 1: Doom Bab, But first he has to box Chris Avila July.

3081
02:11:19,760 --> 02:11:22,760
Speaker 2: Say, you know what Anthony Pettis is busy in retirement.

3082
02:11:22,520 --> 02:11:23,800
Speaker 1: Chris Avick. It's a lot of fights.

3083
02:11:23,800 --> 02:11:24,760
Speaker 2: You think it's a lot of fights?

3084
02:11:25,480 --> 02:11:25,840
Speaker 1: Nine? You know?

3085
02:11:25,960 --> 02:11:26,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, sure it does.

3086
02:11:26,880 --> 02:11:28,600
Speaker 1: All right, Well that's the show for this week. Thank

3087
02:11:28,640 --> 02:11:29,160
Speaker 1: you so much for.

3088
02:11:29,200 --> 02:11:31,040
Speaker 2: Taking Let's thank everyone for their support.

3089
02:11:31,480 --> 02:11:33,160
Speaker 1: We love you guys, really, we mean this. Okay, I

3090
02:11:33,200 --> 02:11:34,560
Speaker 1: mean there's a few of you that are pretty weird,

3091
02:11:34,600 --> 02:11:36,800
Speaker 1: but we love like so much of you. Hey, shout

3092
02:11:36,800 --> 02:11:38,280
Speaker 1: out to my guy Raj who showed up on our

3093
02:11:38,320 --> 02:11:40,880
Speaker 1: live show at the Win to shout out, Yes, he

3094
02:11:41,080 --> 02:11:43,200
Speaker 1: is at the three Margarita show. He's a distinguished doctor

3095
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Speaker 1: in Las Vegas.

3096
02:11:43,920 --> 02:11:46,200
Speaker 2: That's right, that is true. So thanks, thanks to everyone

3097
02:11:46,200 --> 02:11:47,080
Speaker 2: who's sticking with us.

3098
02:11:47,280 --> 02:11:48,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, do you have any fans you want to shout out?

3099
02:11:48,760 --> 02:11:49,560
Speaker 1: Do you really hate our people?

3100
02:11:49,600 --> 02:11:49,640
Speaker 5: No?

3101
02:11:49,680 --> 02:11:51,840
Speaker 2: I don't hate anybody. Do I love everyone? I'm being serious, Like,

3102
02:11:51,880 --> 02:11:54,200
Speaker 2: I'm really grateful for people who are sticking with Dude,

3103
02:11:54,280 --> 02:11:56,800
Speaker 2: it's a weird time in the show, yes, where we're

3104
02:11:56,840 --> 02:12:01,200
Speaker 2: transitioning to something new and there are plenty of growing pains,

3105
02:12:01,200 --> 02:12:04,920
Speaker 2: and I understand that. I trust me, I understand that.

3106
02:12:05,480 --> 02:12:07,960
Speaker 1: So I just want to be we have more growing

3107
02:12:08,000 --> 02:12:09,080
Speaker 1: pains than Alan Thick Luke.

3108
02:12:09,280 --> 02:12:12,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I am saying this very clearly. I'm super grateful

3109
02:12:12,640 --> 02:12:15,000
Speaker 2: for the people who are sticking with us and understand

3110
02:12:15,040 --> 02:12:17,480
Speaker 2: what we're trying to do. Yeah, that's it. Well, that's

3111
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Speaker 2: all I can say.

3112
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Speaker 1: You know, I had to take a dump earlier, so

3113
02:12:19,520 --> 02:12:21,040
Speaker 1: I didn't go in the no dump room, and then

3114
02:12:21,080 --> 02:12:23,440
Speaker 1: the other room was all the dumps were filled, so

3115
02:12:23,520 --> 02:12:26,720
Speaker 1: I went down the floor. You should check that out, realism,

3116
02:12:26,920 --> 02:12:28,240
Speaker 1: Barren Wasteland down there?

3117
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Speaker 2: Are you the guy that goes to like the.

3118
02:12:32,800 --> 02:12:35,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely don't even say it. Yeah I do.

3119
02:12:35,720 --> 02:12:37,000
Speaker 2: There was a guy who I used to work with

3120
02:12:37,200 --> 02:12:40,920
Speaker 2: back in my last Joe job who he would go

3121
02:12:41,040 --> 02:12:43,640
Speaker 2: to a different floor, oh yeah, and then would go

3122
02:12:43,880 --> 02:12:47,160
Speaker 2: to like the Uh he wasn't handicapping, and he would

3123
02:12:47,160 --> 02:12:49,880
Speaker 2: go to the handicap bathroom with the wheelchair accessible bathroom

3124
02:12:49,880 --> 02:12:52,880
Speaker 2: because it was really big, and then would just spend

3125
02:12:52,920 --> 02:12:56,000
Speaker 2: an hour in there on his fucking phone or whatever.

3126
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Speaker 1: Well, Royal Match is a really good game, luke on

3127
02:12:58,240 --> 02:13:00,880
Speaker 1: my phone, So sometimes I'll extend the visit just to

3128
02:13:00,920 --> 02:13:02,120
Speaker 1: try to get to the next level.

3129
02:13:02,240 --> 02:13:04,200
Speaker 2: Right, okay, all right, Well we love everybody. Thank you

3130
02:13:04,280 --> 02:13:05,840
Speaker 2: for everyone for the support, Thank you for everyone who'd

3131
02:13:05,880 --> 02:13:09,080
Speaker 2: watched what we did over in Vegas and UFC sadi

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Speaker 2: Abia preview coming your way.

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Speaker 1: Luke Thomas. My name is Brian Campbell. That's all we

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Speaker 1: got for the week. Thank you Dan Hardy for joining us.

3143
02:13:39,240 --> 02:13:40,720
Speaker 1: I hope Randy Gator is doing well.

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Speaker 2: We are out of here.