Speaker 1: Warrying. Today's episode contains light spoilers, not even really for
Speaker 1: Star Wars, Outlaws and Marvel Rivals, but again not really,
Speaker 1: It's fine.
Speaker 2: Yeah, just catch hello.
Speaker 1: My name is Jason Concepcio and I'm Rosey Night and
Speaker 1: welcome back to X ray Vision, the podcast when we
Speaker 1: dive deep into your favorite show with movies, comics and
Speaker 1: pop culture. Coming from Iheard Podcast, We're bringing you to
Speaker 1: action pack episodes every Tuesdays.
Speaker 2: In the previously on we're talking Nintendo Black Ops, Faither,
Speaker 2: Xbox Ports, more drama.
Speaker 3: From a famous writer known as George R. Martin. You
Speaker 3: may have heard of him.
Speaker 2: Shows that one big at the Creative Arts Emmys and
Speaker 2: some impressive beat or juice box office numbers in the air. Look,
Speaker 2: we're gonna be talking about Star Wars Outlaws. Is it good?
Speaker 2: Are loving it? How does Jason feel about it? I
Speaker 2: haven't played it yet because I've been playing a five
Speaker 2: dollar cozy game that has overtaken my life, which I
Speaker 2: will also talk about. And in the comics corner, we
Speaker 2: will be talking about the comics adjacent Marvel Rivals, and
Speaker 2: we will be bringing in super producer Aaron who, unlike
Speaker 2: the rest of us, got to play forty five minutes
Speaker 2: of the game before getting kicked out.
Speaker 1: You b Beta, You bastard. First Previously on First Up
Speaker 1: New Legend of Zelda Echoes of Wisdom trailer. This game
Speaker 1: gives us more story background and is of course to
Speaker 1: focus on Zelda. Confirmed Zelda can use a sword, and
Speaker 1: I think this looks really really fun and I absolutely
Speaker 1: will be playing. It is hues to the kind of
Speaker 1: classic like the original Nintendo and Super Nintendo, top down
Speaker 1: visual style of the original Legend of Zel games, and
Speaker 1: this looks like a really fun throwback.
Speaker 2: I love puzzle solving, I love combat. This is fun
Speaker 2: to play Zelda in a mainline Zelda game, and I think, like,
Speaker 2: you know, we got the automatons to kind of help
Speaker 2: Zelda fight. We got a dark Link type figure, which
Speaker 2: I always love those kind of things. Yeah, it's available
Speaker 2: way sooner than expected, at the end of this month,
Speaker 2: twenty sixth of Setember on the Nintendo Switch. So yeah,
Speaker 2: I am very excited to play that game because I
Speaker 2: love Zelda and I love cute things, and this is both.
Speaker 4: Next up for the sweats Call of Duty Black Ops
Speaker 4: six Sweatier than Ever coming October twenty fifth and the
Speaker 4: betas out now and folks, there's a new mechanic, new
Speaker 4: movement mechanic called omni movement, which allows players who have
Speaker 4: all of their fast twitch ability still intact because they
Speaker 4: haven't aged past the age of twenty four to absolutely
Speaker 4: bam boozle you and break your ankles and do all
Speaker 4: sorts of crazy movements in courting, including like sliding and
Speaker 4: jumping sideways like a John wu movie. Also new and
Speaker 4: Black Ops six coming off toward twenty fifth, there's sweats.
Speaker 4: You can take a person as like a meat shield.
Speaker 1: You can like grab them and use them as a
Speaker 1: bullet shield, and because of proximity voice communication, you can
Speaker 1: like whisper crazy shit in their ear while you're holding
Speaker 1: them hostage. It's trade.
Speaker 2: I will say, well, it's not.
Speaker 1: For me, but in a time in my life it
Speaker 1: would have been for me exactly.
Speaker 2: And I will say, look, do I seem like someone
Speaker 2: who plays call of duty?
Speaker 5: Now?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 2: Have I played call of duty in the past, yes,
Speaker 2: But I will say they do set They did sell
Speaker 2: me because basically the idea of this is one of
Speaker 2: my favorite classic action movie setups, which is like Black
Speaker 2: Ops Veteran right, Yes, in his team find themselves hunted
Speaker 2: by the military machine that created them, like the up
Speaker 2: for like every great Schwartzenegger action movie. So you know what,
Speaker 2: I know, maybe maybe, but will it really? Because can
Speaker 2: you cook him black ops? Then no, I'm probably not
Speaker 2: gonna play it. But I love that people are excited.
Speaker 2: I'm a very excited to watch videos of other people
Speaker 2: playing it looks deranged.
Speaker 1: Next up, George R. Martin takes to his blog not
Speaker 1: a blog and chooses violence.
Speaker 3: Oh baby, it was violent?
Speaker 1: Oh baby, so George, and full disclosure, I am the
Speaker 1: co host of the official Game of the Roads. How's
Speaker 1: the Dragon Pod? George R. Martin, creator of the Song
Speaker 1: of Ice and Fire books, writer of those books, creator
Speaker 1: of that world that inspired Game of Thrones and other
Speaker 1: h and other projects, including House of the Dragon on HBO.
Speaker 1: Max Uh teased about two weeks ago in a blog
Speaker 1: that he was not looking forward to writing his next blog,
Speaker 1: and he said his next blog would detail the things
Speaker 1: that he feels the adaptation of his work known as
Speaker 1: House of the Dragon nine h Beyond Max Uh got
Speaker 1: wrong from his source material and then boy did he
Speaker 1: do it?
Speaker 6: He?
Speaker 1: Then oh he did it? Then he last week took
Speaker 1: to his blog not a blog, and detailed all the
Speaker 1: things that he felt that got wrong, including the depiction
Speaker 1: of the blood and cheese murder of Prince the young
Speaker 1: Prince Jaharis, and other things, including delving into his understanding
Speaker 1: of the of Ryan Condall's Season three outright quite shocking,
Speaker 1: just quite soiling, really just like spoiling a bunch of
Speaker 1: season three stuff. And then this roiled the internet for
Speaker 1: a period of time, and then he took the blog
Speaker 1: post down. So the blogs is down and there have
Speaker 1: been no further developments since that time.
Speaker 2: But boy, wow, this was at Wow, that was a
Speaker 2: wild couple of hours.
Speaker 1: It was a wild couple of hours. And you know,
Speaker 1: it's impossible to like think about this without for me
Speaker 1: looking at it through the lens of the fact that
Speaker 1: George's books aren't finished, and it feels like he's dealing
Speaker 1: with that through this. Yeah, because this is also a
Speaker 1: man who has been writing for television since the early eighties.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, that's why he wrote Game of Ferns, right,
Speaker 2: So he wanted to write something that people kept saying,
Speaker 2: this is too expensive, you can't make this, you could
Speaker 2: never put this to screen.
Speaker 3: So he was like, well, I'm going to put it
Speaker 3: in a book then.
Speaker 1: So he knows how it works to a large extent
Speaker 1: when you adapt something. And there is no even though
Speaker 1: George would in a previous blog pointed to Showgun as
Speaker 1: something that was Hey, they got it right, even though
Speaker 1: they changed, they did change. So muche there is if
Speaker 1: you're looking for the adaptation from book to screen, be
Speaker 1: that silver screen or television screen that is one hundred
Speaker 1: percent faithful to the source of it doesn't exist. It's
Speaker 1: never happened.
Speaker 3: And so.
Speaker 1: This read to me, and this.
Speaker 6: Is just my.
Speaker 1: Armchair psychoanalyzing. I think George wants more, say, and he
Speaker 1: knows that he's probably not going to finish his book
Speaker 1: series all the way, and I think he's thinking legacy now.
Speaker 1: And I think because he understands Again this is just
Speaker 1: my theorizing. He understands how the business works and how
Speaker 1: things change necessarily when you adapt, and I think he
Speaker 1: just wants a more I think he wants a seat
Speaker 1: at the table in a way that he feels like
Speaker 1: he's not getting and I think he was willing to
Speaker 1: leverage his fan base to try and get it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's my agree, and I think he is someone
Speaker 2: who is perennially online. Yeah, and I think that that
Speaker 2: blog post, which only covered the first his problems with
Speaker 2: like the first couple of episodes, and he kind of
Speaker 2: talked about how there would be more to come, which
Speaker 2: I don't think will be happening. And now he took
Speaker 2: the blog down. Also, it felt like he was responding
Speaker 2: to what he had seen online and he'd seen people
Speaker 2: critique it, and then he'd gone, yeah, I feel like
Speaker 2: that too, like let me just get this out there.
Speaker 2: But it did have the naivety of like somebody who
Speaker 2: maybe didn't really perceive like you are the creator, you
Speaker 2: are the author, but you also, in Jason's words which
Speaker 2: I love this word, you sold it for a tremendous
Speaker 2: amount of money. Yeah, that's I sold that the like
Speaker 2: you sold the adaptation rights. And at some point that
Speaker 2: means that you do give it up and you put
Speaker 2: it out there and you allow somebody else to do
Speaker 2: a version of your story. And this to me seemed
Speaker 2: like a shortsighted choice. And I think that the blog
Speaker 2: post being taken down and they're not being any more
Speaker 2: conversation kind of speaks to how well it went.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I do think, and I feel for George. I
Speaker 1: feel for both of us, but I feel for George
Speaker 1: as a guy who, like I've always said that if
Speaker 1: George doesn't finish, he's given us so much already, and
Speaker 1: that like as a person who as a creator looking
Speaker 1: at his career arc as a guy who was kind
Speaker 1: of like scuffling along as a kind of medium sized
Speaker 1: career success both on TV and in his books, to
Speaker 1: all of a sudden find like tremendous cultural success like
Speaker 1: later in his career. He if he lost some momentum
Speaker 1: in writing his books because he wanted to enjoy that.
Speaker 1: I don't think there's absolutely anything wrong with that. And
Speaker 1: I saw to your point, you know, I saw a
Speaker 1: lot of comments that were some version of oh, George said,
Speaker 1: if you ruin my story, I'm going to ruin yours.
Speaker 1: And I get that. I get that instinct and that
Speaker 1: feeling and people who were responding that way, and I
Speaker 1: also think it was his story. And then he did
Speaker 1: sell it for a lot of money. And there's no
Speaker 1: world in which when you sell something you can say
Speaker 1: and leave it just the way I sold it to you,
Speaker 1: because the new owners then will do stuff. And that happened.
Speaker 1: The changes happened for a variety of reasons, both creative
Speaker 1: and due to the fact that once you go out
Speaker 1: of the realm of imagination and pure text fiction, you
Speaker 1: enter a realm in which budgets happen, and they are
Speaker 1: not unlimited, and you have to make choices.
Speaker 2: I think it's an interesting I do think it's I
Speaker 2: think that it may be more of a hangover from
Speaker 2: how Game of Thrones ended when they I think the
Speaker 2: cost what was in the books, because actually the show
Speaker 2: has been so widely beloved. I feel like there is
Speaker 2: such a huge kind of critical appreciation of House to
Speaker 2: the Dragon and of the choices that it's made. And
Speaker 2: I feel like a lot of his kind of discomfort
Speaker 2: again armchair psychoanalyzing here. I'm not on you know, friendly
Speaker 2: terms with George or Martin. We don't have any beef.
Speaker 3: But I've ever met him. I met him once actually,
Speaker 3: but still, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: He essentially like, I feel like a lot of it
Speaker 2: is that fear, like you said, discomfort of not finishing
Speaker 2: the books the way that Game of Thrones ended, and
Speaker 2: some kind of fear that this will be a similar
Speaker 2: situation that he has to rectify merely but it's actually
Speaker 2: not like it's a show that everybody's loving, Like most
Speaker 2: people just think it's a really great show. Yeah. I
Speaker 2: did see some funny comments though, where people were like,
Speaker 2: you know what, he didn't critique. He didn't critique Alison
Speaker 2: m Ranier being gay because that shit's just canon.
Speaker 3: And I was like, I'll take that. I was like,
Speaker 3: I love that.
Speaker 1: Next up and O Tria the last song, follow up,
Speaker 1: it will come up on it Xbox. Then now it
Speaker 1: is coming out the after the developers had complained publicly
Speaker 1: that they can't get an email back from Microsoft. Now
Speaker 1: and O Tria is coming out on Xbox as dates
Speaker 1: possible and as soon as possible at a date to
Speaker 1: be mentioned later. But it's coming out. So it Squeaky Wheel,
Speaker 1: it turns out, does get the grease mm hmm. Next up,
Speaker 1: the Creative Arts Emmy winners have been announced, and it's
Speaker 1: a lot of stuff that we like. Blue Eyed Samurai
Speaker 1: has won for Outstanding Animated program.
Speaker 3: Beginning X ninety seven, beating X.
Speaker 1: Men ninety seven, and honestly, I think a deserved win.
Speaker 2: I think it deserves it. This is this is a
Speaker 2: landmark piece of programming and.
Speaker 1: Big winner here for the Creative Arts Emmys, a showgun
Speaker 1: breaking the record for most Emmys won by a single
Speaker 1: TV show with fourteen Emmys, including for Best Casting, Best Cinematography,
Speaker 1: Best Get act Your Best Main Title Design, Costumes, makeup,
Speaker 1: and more.
Speaker 2: Congratulations to these absolutely worthwhile wins all over. Also Best
Speaker 2: Stunt Performance. Let's get that going to the Oscars now, please.
Speaker 2: Now you know it's there in the Emmys, we can
Speaker 2: celebrate it. I was kind of confused to have to
Speaker 2: say though, even though I am an entertainment journalist, I
Speaker 2: didn't realize how many different parts.
Speaker 3: The Emmys have. Like I feel like a lot of these, you.
Speaker 2: Know, Nesta Carbonell winning Best Guest Actor in a Drama.
Speaker 2: He was fantastic, by the way, But like I feel
Speaker 2: like a lot of these I would have watched them,
Speaker 2: Like they could have streamed this, they could have televised this.
Speaker 2: I want to celebrate Shogun's wins, obviously, I'm very excited
Speaker 2: to see if you know, Tad Nobosano or Hiroyuki Sonada
Speaker 2: are gonna win when they do the televised Emmis. But
Speaker 2: Creative Arts Emes, I would.
Speaker 3: Be interested in watching this.
Speaker 2: I feel like we have enough streaming services enough YouTube
Speaker 2: type platforms now that it would be nice if we
Speaker 2: could watch these below the line and also sometimes above
Speaker 2: the line creatives get their you know, flowers on stage,
Speaker 2: So I would like to see that become a possibility.
Speaker 3: But love to see this for Shogun.
Speaker 2: I'd love to see it for Bluey Samurai, which won
Speaker 2: multiple awards as well.
Speaker 1: And next up, Tim Burton's Beetlejuice sequel, the New Beetlejuice
Speaker 1: Beetlejuice Beetlejuice Remember Don't Stay, He Will Appear is experiencing
Speaker 1: a very very nice box office hall with over one
Speaker 1: hundred and forty five million in global that in.
Speaker 3: One hundred and ten domestically.
Speaker 1: You love to see it, uh. Tim Burton famously doesn't
Speaker 1: like casting non white actors in his films, but it
Speaker 1: hasn't hurt him yet and this film looks like it
Speaker 1: will be a success.
Speaker 2: Jenna Ortega, he's trying to move in these on that one,
Speaker 2: but yeah, I haven't seen it yet. I have to say,
Speaker 2: as Jason, tim Burton's previous comments and has moved towards
Speaker 2: like kind of nightmarish CG in his later career has
Speaker 2: turned me off. I was a huge Timburton fan as
Speaker 2: a kid, no surprise because I was a goth. But
Speaker 2: I do love Jenna Otaga, I do love Catherine O'Hara,
Speaker 2: I do love Winona Ryder.
Speaker 3: And from what I have heard, it.
Speaker 2: Is a very practical movie that has moved him back
Speaker 2: to that production design that made Batman Batman returns Edwards
Speaker 2: Sizahans and the original beat or just so special.
Speaker 3: So I will be going to see it for five
Speaker 3: dollars on Tuesday.
Speaker 1: They also will be going to see it for a
Speaker 1: discounted price. Here are Tim Burton's comments from a few
Speaker 1: years back. I think a Bustle interview quote. I remember
Speaker 1: back when I was a child watching The Brady Bunch
Speaker 1: and they started getting all politically correct, like, okay, let's
Speaker 1: have an Asian child and a black child. I grew
Speaker 1: up watching blaxploitation movies, right, and I said, that's great.
Speaker 1: I didn't go like, there should be more white people
Speaker 1: in these movies. There's lots of.
Speaker 2: White people in black exploitation movies, sir, and most of
Speaker 2: them were made by white people.
Speaker 1: So according to Burton, that's when the Pretty Bunch started
Speaker 1: go downhill. Is not the Brady Munch going woke.
Speaker 2: Jason got Now, well, you know what, maybe if he
Speaker 2: gets a third beat Le Juice movie, which I'm sure,
Speaker 2: maybe I'll throw us at by once again. Or maybe
Speaker 2: General or Tager will be telling him off and teaching
Speaker 2: him how to be a better person. Not that that
Speaker 2: should be on the young people, but she has been
Speaker 2: wonderful on this Beat or Juice press tour. She's been
Speaker 2: wearing fantastic Beat or Juice inspired outfits and in a
Speaker 2: moment that went viral that I absolutely loved, she told
Speaker 2: Winona Ryder to not listen to leave. You don't have
Speaker 2: to take those sunglasses. I felt like that was a
Speaker 2: greatly healing moment when we're Knowna's career was just absolutely
Speaker 2: decimated by the evils of the paparazzi. So good on you,
Speaker 2: jenneral O Tager.
Speaker 3: I love you.
Speaker 2: I hope you've got a sick back end deal and
Speaker 2: that some of this box office money is coming your way.
Speaker 1: We're about to make some money because coming up next,
Speaker 1: we're going to jump out and talk about Star Wars Outlaws.
Speaker 1: After these messages and we're back to talk about Star
Speaker 1: Wars Outlaws recently released. It came out August thirtieth on Windows,
Speaker 1: PS five, Xbox Series X and S published by Ubisoft.
Speaker 1: Third Person Star Wars open world game set between the
Speaker 1: events of Empire Strikes Back in Return of the Jedi.
Speaker 1: You're not playing it, Rosie.
Speaker 2: I have not played it yet because I do not
Speaker 2: want to spend that much money on a game as
Speaker 2: of yet. But I do want to pet the cute
Speaker 2: creature Nicks. At some point.
Speaker 1: I will get it.
Speaker 2: Jason, you are playing it, I am. How does it feel?
Speaker 1: Well? Like an absolute dupe and supper for everything that
Speaker 1: George Lucas has done since nineteen seventy seven and a
Speaker 1: situation that continues to this very day. I paid for
Speaker 1: whatever it was, the Ultra or Elite version of this
Speaker 1: game so that I could play it fucking Tuesday night
Speaker 1: ahead of day August thirty. They had my number, and
Speaker 1: here is my take on the game. I was originally
Speaker 1: quite disappointed it felt for an open world game, it
Speaker 1: felt very sparsely populated and by both people and things
Speaker 1: to do, and from a like gameplay, story action perspective,
Speaker 1: it kind of felt like the pacing was off. Like
Speaker 1: that said, having now played for many more days after
Speaker 1: this and gotten into the you know out of the
Speaker 1: kind of tutorial section and have been exploring extensively the
Speaker 1: open world section. Having now been able to explore extensively
Speaker 1: the open world section and starting to build my relationships
Speaker 1: with the various organized crime factions there, here is what
Speaker 1: I'm less disappointed. And here's what I have to say
Speaker 1: about Star Wars Outlaws, and really this is the only
Speaker 1: thing you need to know about it. If you have
Speaker 1: not yet purchased the game. This is a game for
Speaker 1: two groups. It is a game for one people who
Speaker 1: are fans longtime fans of Star Wars who have not
Speaker 1: ever really played video games before, or younger fans of
Speaker 1: Star Wars kids who similarly have really not played video
Speaker 1: games before. If this is your first open world game, congratulations.
Speaker 1: This is the perfect thing for you because it will
Speaker 1: teach you about open world games. And it has enough
Speaker 1: is enough. The fighting is good enough, the stealth is
Speaker 1: fun enough. The platforming, the kind of third person uncharted
Speaker 1: style platforming is like good and engaging enough, and you know,
Speaker 1: there's a fun creature that is your pet, and it's perfect.
Speaker 1: It's perfect in that regard. If you have like ever
Speaker 1: played a Grand Theft auto game, or have ever played
Speaker 1: like a Red Dead Redemption game, You're gonna be like,
Speaker 1: what the fuck is this? This game is not for you.
Speaker 1: It is for the same people that other Star Wars
Speaker 1: merches for, and that is like kids and nostalgic nostalgic
Speaker 1: oldsters who have not played video games before. So in
Speaker 1: that say, it's kind of fun.
Speaker 2: Also just people who want to spend time in like
Speaker 2: a Star Wars world, you know, because some people are
Speaker 2: not necessarily looking for that like challenging, kind of completely full,
Speaker 2: like you know, task based sit you and some people
Speaker 2: just want to be like chillin doing stealth in a
Speaker 2: Stall Wars world. And I think that's like definitely in
Speaker 2: on Discode, we've seen a lot of people who are
Speaker 2: just having fun just like wandering around doing stealth as.
Speaker 1: A low stakes game. It's like excellent. I think it's
Speaker 1: excellent and it and it is again if you have
Speaker 1: if you have no experience with a third person open
Speaker 1: world game, then this is gonna be a great game
Speaker 1: for you. There's lots of stuff to do, there's a
Speaker 1: pretty like everything is like the kind of basic version
Speaker 1: of a mechanic that you would find in it, like
Speaker 1: another triple a open world game. The hacking is. The
Speaker 1: hacking is actually pretty interesting. It's based on like a
Speaker 1: beat system, like a music system, like It'll be. You
Speaker 1: have to basically match the beat oncative like a rhythm game.
Speaker 1: You have to match the beat like on two to
Speaker 1: three consecutive like this is sorry, the lock picking mechanic
Speaker 1: on several consecutive beats in order to open whatever the
Speaker 1: package is. The hacking, which they call slicing, is like
Speaker 1: wordle in which you select pictograms and it'll tell you
Speaker 1: if either the pictogram is not part of the hacking sequence,
Speaker 1: is part of the hacking sequence but it's in the
Speaker 1: wrong place or is perfectly placed in the right place,
Speaker 1: and then you'll have like a couple of tries based
Speaker 1: on your feedback from your first tries. So that's kind
Speaker 1: of interesting and cool. The stealth is like, you don't
Speaker 1: there's no cover system. There's no like cover fire system.
Speaker 1: You can't really peek like you can in other third
Speaker 1: person games, but like taking cover behind like a box,
Speaker 1: and like shooting at stormtroopers is fun. The action the
Speaker 1: AI is pretty fucking dumb. Like you can sneak right
Speaker 1: by somebody, you can you can tell Nick's to like
Speaker 1: pickpocket somebody. You can be standing six inches away, they're
Speaker 1: like what like nicks will run over to you and
Speaker 1: drop their stolen items, like right in front of them,
Speaker 1: and you pick it up and they have no idea.
Speaker 1: But when you get into combat with stormtroopers, Ubisoft I
Speaker 1: think was and the developer was smart enough to know
Speaker 1: that one their AI is done, so therefore too they
Speaker 1: can kind of overcome that by just making the AI
Speaker 1: super aggressive. So if you shoot at a stormtrooper and
Speaker 1: you get into a gunfight or a Pike gangster or whoever,
Speaker 1: they're just gonna go fucking crazy trying to get you,
Speaker 1: trying to find you, chasing you all over the map.
Speaker 1: And in that sense that is engaging and active enough
Speaker 1: that the worst thing that could happen is you're wandering
Speaker 1: around being like what they can I can't get into
Speaker 1: a fight. I don't know what to do. And so
Speaker 1: you do kind of have a choice, Like there's several
Speaker 1: missions in the early to mid game where you know
Speaker 1: they tell you, okay, you got to be quiet, and
Speaker 1: you just have to be quiet, But then it'll open
Speaker 1: up to where okay, you have a choice. You can
Speaker 1: either be stealthy or you can go in Guns of Blazing,
Speaker 1: and going in Guns of Blazing is pretty fun, even
Speaker 1: for a person like me who's played a lot of games.
Speaker 1: The UH vehicles are reasonably fun, Like it's not like
Speaker 1: GTA where you're like can capture like every kind of ship,
Speaker 1: but like the speeder racing is pretty fun. And relationships, similarly,
Speaker 1: it's not like a very complicated relationship system faction system
Speaker 1: as you would find, you know, in some other Triple
Speaker 1: A game, whether it be Red Dead or what have you.
Speaker 1: But it is cool, like if you do work for
Speaker 1: the Pikes, the Pikes will like you, but the Huts
Speaker 1: maybe won't like you, and so you do have to
Speaker 1: like balance this stuff, and it does get interesting, and
Speaker 1: it's fun to go into the cantina and meet with
Speaker 1: your contact and like get missions. The missions are definitely
Speaker 1: much more on rails than a veteran video game player
Speaker 1: would probably like. But again, I think this is mainly
Speaker 1: for kids and people who's for whom this is their
Speaker 1: first video game experience. Now I'll also say this, don't
Speaker 1: if you have not bought this game, don't buy the
Speaker 1: expensive version. Don't do what I did. You will never
Speaker 1: look at the digital video art book, you will not
Speaker 1: care about the skins, fuck all that shit. Just play
Speaker 1: the very basic version of the game and you will
Speaker 1: get the full vent game experience and you will have
Speaker 1: fun overall. Six out of ten, but like a solid
Speaker 1: six again if this I remember when I was a
Speaker 1: kid first playing video games. I was like, holy shit,
Speaker 1: it is amazing, wow, And I think kids will like it,
Speaker 1: especially like if they are say before around the age
Speaker 1: of like eight, nine, ten, and have not gotten into
Speaker 1: like Fortnite or anything else like that yet. They If
Speaker 1: you're looking for something to get kids into star Wars
Speaker 1: and gaming that's not like crazy and violent, super uber violent,
Speaker 1: with like all sorts of like bad content, adult content,
Speaker 1: Star Wars Outlaws, it's for you, Rosie. You've been playing
Speaker 1: a game, yes, I have so.
Speaker 2: I a while ago, I was waiting for this one
Speaker 2: game that was called that's based on this Scandinavian kid's
Speaker 2: books called The Movements, which I love, and I did
Speaker 2: get that game. It is a rhythm game and it's
Speaker 2: really cute. It's called Snuffkins Melody of Moomon Valley. But
Speaker 2: look that game. I got it on sale. It was
Speaker 2: like fifteen dollars. I was like I'm gonna play this
Speaker 2: game NonStop. But then I got influenced by one of
Speaker 2: the cozy gamers and that game's cute. It's like rhythm game.
Speaker 2: It's very cute. You wander around, it feels kind of
Speaker 2: like a cozy grove actually, which me and Aaron were
Speaker 2: talking about before. But I got influenced by a cozy gamer,
Speaker 2: probably Cozy Gamer Girl, she's always influencing me, who was
Speaker 2: playing a game called Minami Lane that is five dollars
Speaker 2: that has absolutely addicted me, and it is essentially a
Speaker 2: cozy time management game where a Tanooki hires you to
Speaker 2: help get little streets back to bustling kind of thoroughfares.
Speaker 2: And it's like you've got to go in and there
Speaker 2: is one building, and you've got to make sure that
Speaker 2: you have enough buildings so that elder people can come,
Speaker 2: and you've got to make enough buildings so that younger
Speaker 2: people can come. And the challenges of stuff like make
Speaker 2: a karaoke bar that is good for younger people and
Speaker 2: make sure there's one that's good for elder people, and
Speaker 2: there is slight. There's a lot of optional stuff like
Speaker 2: you can do it within six days. You can take
Speaker 2: this much time you can do it with this many buildings,
Speaker 2: so you can add level of stress. But I love
Speaker 2: a time management game. And a lot of times, like
Speaker 2: Nick or my friends will be like, why do you
Speaker 2: relax by like doing jobs? Like why is that enjoyable
Speaker 2: to you to like run an errand or run a restaurant?
Speaker 2: I will say this game is so relaxing that even
Speaker 2: people who don't necessarily usually like time management games should
Speaker 2: check it out. It's so beautifully put together too, like
Speaker 2: and also I really, I really like the fact that
Speaker 2: they they there are noveral tips for the game because
Speaker 2: the game is very simple, so they just say when
Speaker 2: it comes up, it'll be a tip, and it'll be like,
Speaker 2: we love you, thanks for playing the game.
Speaker 5: So it just has like entirely great vibes. It has
Speaker 5: a gorgeous, really lovely aesthetic. It's made by Doot and
Speaker 5: blee Bloop incredible names, and the publisher is Wholesome Games Presents,
Speaker 5: and it is legit like maybe the most enticing game
Speaker 5: I've played this yet absolutely just so addicting.
Speaker 2: Like if you like Stardu Valley and you got addicted
Speaker 2: to Stardu Valley, this is like that, but way simpler, way,
Speaker 2: less expansive, and actually more addicting.
Speaker 1: Wow, huge, you will get addicted. Yeah, that's the time
Speaker 1: management games of the exact same type of game that
Speaker 1: addicts me. You know what, I'm addicted to keeping this
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Speaker 1: responsibility and we're back. Now it is time to talk
Speaker 1: about Marvel Rivals. Marvel Rivals Free to Play six v
Speaker 1: six Hero Shooter, which is basically overwatched skinned for Marvel,
Speaker 1: was in early access recently. We did get at as
Speaker 1: a show. We got access to the game, and we
Speaker 1: got AT. That access code came through about thirty minutes
Speaker 1: after early access ended, so we were not able to play.
Speaker 1: But super producer Aaron tell Us and welcome to the show.
Speaker 1: Tell us your thoughts on your very brief relationship with
Speaker 1: the early access beta of Marvel Rivals.
Speaker 6: Yeah, so I also, I mean I got it very late.
Speaker 6: I got it with about an hour left. It just
Speaker 6: happened to be I'm on the East Coast and I
Speaker 6: wake up very early, so I had access to it
Speaker 6: for the brief moment it was still up that Unfortunately
Speaker 6: the two of you did not. I will come to
Speaker 6: this as someone who I'm a huge Marvel fan. I've
Speaker 6: actually never played Overwatch, so I have not done too
Speaker 6: many of the team shooters. I had a ton of
Speaker 6: fun it has. I know there's a ton of things
Speaker 6: that are very similar with this Overwatch, including some of
Speaker 6: the characters and their move sets are almost one to one.
Speaker 6: I've heard like the Punisher is basically Soldier seventy six.
Speaker 6: But a quick breakdown, there will be I believe it's
Speaker 6: twenty five heroes you can choose and villains, and when
Speaker 6: it launches it will have Captain, American Winner Soldier who
Speaker 6: were not in the beta, but everyone all heroes will
Speaker 6: be unlocked and free to play at launch, which is
Speaker 6: very exciting. You don't have to buy the DLC to
Speaker 6: get Doctor Strange or pay extra to have Spider Man.
Speaker 6: It will only be cosmetic things. I tried characters in
Speaker 6: each of the three roles. So there's Vanguard, which is
Speaker 6: basically your tank character, There's Duelists that are dps, and
Speaker 6: then Strategist, which is.
Speaker 2: The support character.
Speaker 6: And I know, Jason, you talked to Rosie earlier about
Speaker 6: Overwatch and had suggested a support character for her. So
Speaker 6: some good ones in there, and they're really interesting ways
Speaker 6: they use it, Like Loki is a strategist who he
Speaker 6: makes copies of himself and illusions, and then the more
Speaker 6: illusions he has, the stronger his healing abilities are in
Speaker 6: terms of like the Tanks group realistic like actually makes
Speaker 6: walls of branches like throughout the battlefield to change things.
Speaker 6: And then for duelists like star Lord, he's very quick
Speaker 6: and whenever you dash it auto reloads his weapon, which
Speaker 6: is some very cool, like unique things. I did think
Speaker 6: it was a little strange, like Magneto and Doctor Strange
Speaker 6: are tanks kind of just because they have shields like
Speaker 6: as part of their power set, and like they needed
Speaker 6: more tanks. But like Hulk is a tank. Yeah, I
Speaker 6: get that, but I don't know if Doctor Strange. If
Speaker 6: I think of him as like a tanky character as opposed.
Speaker 2: To like a detail, I will say I can't. This
Speaker 2: is not the case with Doctor Strange. I think you're
Speaker 2: onto something that But I will say I feel like
Speaker 2: putting like Magneto in that like tanky kind of space.
Speaker 2: It's definitely also like going back to the old Capcom
Speaker 2: games where I feel like he did he was kind
Speaker 2: of a little bit bigger. He did have that kind
Speaker 2: of shield vibe. But okay, so the one that I
Speaker 2: was really interested that they included is like they have
Speaker 2: Adam Warlock in this game, who is one of the
Speaker 2: support characters. Could you talk a little bit about him,
Speaker 2: because that's just like I never even thought i'd see
Speaker 2: Adam Warlock in a video game.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and I didn't play as Adam Warlock, but I
Speaker 6: had he was in games I played, and he does
Speaker 6: a cool thing where he connects different teammates. So like
Speaker 6: if I am getting focused and you connect me to
Speaker 6: one of our other teammates, any damage to me is
Speaker 6: spread between us. So wow, that's a really fun thing.
Speaker 6: Like if you do have a tank who's right in
Speaker 6: the middle, and you know, you can spread out that damage,
Speaker 6: so even if it or a really squishy character shares
Speaker 6: their damage with a tank. Again, not an Overwatch pro
Speaker 6: by any means, So I don't know what the best
Speaker 6: strategies are, but I had a ton of fun. Rocket
Speaker 6: has some really cool things where like he he can
Speaker 6: jump on group and just if your teammate is a group,
Speaker 6: he can group. Yeah, and so they do have these
Speaker 6: these team up abilities that like sometimes it's just two characters,
Speaker 6: sometimes it's three, but it's not symmetrical, so like Rocket
Speaker 6: has stuff with Punisher and Groop but doesn't have anything
Speaker 6: with Captain America for instance. Interesting, but supposedly the developers
Speaker 6: have said they're going to rotate them, so like there
Speaker 6: won't be a Rocket and Adam Warlock thing at launch,
Speaker 6: but maybe two months in it will have that and
Speaker 6: they'll rotate out the Punisher and Rocket one. So I
Speaker 6: think that feels weird.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they would add and take something away as part
Speaker 1: of the game maintenance.
Speaker 6: Taking things away is a choice.
Speaker 1: I predicted that will be something that will be changed,
Speaker 1: Like although you know, as a long time Overwatch player,
Speaker 1: I still play. They do tweak. The game has been
Speaker 1: tweaked regularly and is tweaked between seasons all the time,
Speaker 1: and is tweaked mid scenes in a competitive season, just
Speaker 1: based on like who's overpowered who's not. So I could
Speaker 1: see that. Yeah, there is precedent for changing games that way,
Speaker 1: but like taking an entire mechanic out and the ability
Speaker 1: seems weird, but that's neither here nor there.
Speaker 2: Maybe they'll do it, Maybe they'll do it more seasonally,
Speaker 2: like yeah, you know kind of how they have like
Speaker 2: Fortnite skins or like different kind of mechanisms you can
Speaker 2: play when it's like Halloween or whatever. Maybe, But I
Speaker 2: think you're right, Jason. I feel like if they're doing
Speaker 2: it where you can get every character without having to
Speaker 2: like unlock them like old people used to have to,
Speaker 2: like we did in all games, or without a DLC,
Speaker 2: it seems unlikely that it's gonna make sense for them
Speaker 2: to just be like removing things.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and they're not gonna do that, I mean, unless
Speaker 1: they really want to enrage a fan base. They're not
Speaker 1: gonna make it pay to win, which people will perceive
Speaker 1: it as being paid to win if exactly these moves.
Speaker 1: I would imagine the way they're gonna make money for
Speaker 1: free to play game is skins, weapon skins, costumes, et cetera.
Speaker 6: And they've already shared some of those, and so like
Speaker 6: the Venom character has. One of the skins they previewed
Speaker 6: was basically like the very light blue skinned Venom reminiscent
Speaker 6: of Marvel Capcom. So they have they and they have
Speaker 6: multiple Magneto skins. I think that I saw like the
Speaker 6: one that they have is like really old, grizzled looking Magneto.
Speaker 6: I'm sure they'll do like the X Men ninety seven costume,
Speaker 6: Like they'll have so many options there with skins. I
Speaker 6: think kind of like Marvel Capcom. Like as a kid,
Speaker 6: I didn't play a ton of Moral Kombat or Street Fighter,
Speaker 6: but I played Marvel Capcom because it was Marvel characters.
Speaker 6: And I have a feeling this will be a similar
Speaker 6: entry point for people like myself who have never played
Speaker 6: Overwatch but love Avengers or X Men, Like you're gonna
Speaker 6: jump into this game because it's familiar characters, and like,
Speaker 6: I may not have any connection to Winston in Overwatch,
Speaker 6: but hey, I understand Venom, and like I can jump
Speaker 6: in and play as that character and understand what's going
Speaker 6: to happen. You know, he's got webs, he's got the
Speaker 6: mobility of swinging around, Like, okay, cool, I'll play him
Speaker 6: and see what happens. So I was a big fan
Speaker 6: of it for the forty five minutes that I've played,
Speaker 6: and I can't come out in December.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love that. That's exactly I've tried to play Overwatch,
Speaker 2: just like I've tried to play Fortnite, and like the
Speaker 2: mechanics of the games and like being good at them
Speaker 2: can feel like a lot of work for me. But
Speaker 2: even though I do think I've watched her some of
Speaker 2: the best designs of any video game, I love those
Speaker 2: character designs. I I will be more inclined to try
Speaker 2: this out because I want to play like me and
Speaker 2: Jason are sending each other videos. It's like, who doesn't
Speaker 2: want to be like Groot, like building giant Wolves. I
Speaker 2: want to play as Adam Warlock, as Derange. I want
Speaker 2: to play as Magic. I love matth Yeah, Jeff the
Speaker 2: land Shark. I may shout out to Kelly Thompson like
Speaker 2: legendary edition there, and Yeah, I just I think that
Speaker 2: this seems like a lot of fun and I'm definitely
Speaker 2: interested to see if this is the unexpected breakout because
Speaker 2: I do feel like we did think Outlaws was probably
Speaker 2: going to be the big fandom breakout game. But like
Speaker 2: you said, Jason, I think it has a slightly limited
Speaker 2: reach compared to what we thought. But this might be
Speaker 2: as the free to play as the fact that Overwatch
Speaker 2: has been out for like a while now, and that
Speaker 2: first bubble of Overwatch was so huge. I wonder if
Speaker 2: this could get people back into it and introduce a
Speaker 2: wider audience to it.
Speaker 1: Well, Aaron, thanks for joining us, Thank you for updating
Speaker 1: us on Marvel Rivals. I insanely jell us that you yes.
Speaker 2: Hopefully we will get to play it soon.
Speaker 1: Yeah. On Thursday's episode of Extra Vision, we're diving into
Speaker 1: The Boy and the Heron, which just came out on
Speaker 1: streaming last weekend, Miyazaki's latest masterpiece. Then we're continuing our
Speaker 1: journey in Middle Earth on Friday with our recap and
Speaker 1: reaction to episode five of Rings of Power season two.
Speaker 1: That's it for this episode. Thanks for listening. Bye x
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