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Speaker 1: Warrying. Today's episode contains light spoilers, not even really for

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Speaker 1: Star Wars, Outlaws and Marvel Rivals, but again not really,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, just catch hello.

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Speaker 1: My name is Jason Concepcio and I'm Rosey Night and

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Speaker 1: welcome back to X ray Vision, the podcast when we

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Speaker 1: dive deep into your favorite show with movies, comics and

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Speaker 1: pop culture. Coming from Iheard Podcast, We're bringing you to

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Speaker 1: action pack episodes every Tuesdays.

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Speaker 2: In the previously on we're talking Nintendo Black Ops, Faither,

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Speaker 2: Xbox Ports, more drama.

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Speaker 3: From a famous writer known as George R. Martin. You

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Speaker 3: may have heard of him.

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Speaker 2: Shows that one big at the Creative Arts Emmys and

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Speaker 2: some impressive beat or juice box office numbers in the air. Look,

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Speaker 2: we're gonna be talking about Star Wars Outlaws. Is it good?

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Speaker 2: Are loving it? How does Jason feel about it? I

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Speaker 2: haven't played it yet because I've been playing a five

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Speaker 2: dollar cozy game that has overtaken my life, which I

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Speaker 2: will also talk about. And in the comics corner, we

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Speaker 2: will be talking about the comics adjacent Marvel Rivals, and

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Speaker 2: we will be bringing in super producer Aaron who, unlike

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Speaker 2: the rest of us, got to play forty five minutes

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Speaker 2: of the game before getting kicked out.

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Speaker 1: You b Beta, You bastard. First Previously on First Up

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Speaker 1: New Legend of Zelda Echoes of Wisdom trailer. This game

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Speaker 1: gives us more story background and is of course to

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Speaker 1: focus on Zelda. Confirmed Zelda can use a sword, and

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Speaker 1: I think this looks really really fun and I absolutely

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Speaker 1: will be playing. It is hues to the kind of

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Speaker 2: I love puzzle solving, I love combat. This is fun

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Speaker 2: I always love those kind of things. Yeah, it's available

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Speaker 4: Next up for the sweats Call of Duty Black Ops

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Speaker 4: six Sweatier than Ever coming October twenty fifth and the

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Speaker 4: betas out now and folks, there's a new mechanic, new

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Speaker 4: movement mechanic called omni movement, which allows players who have

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Speaker 4: sorts of crazy movements in courting, including like sliding and

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Speaker 4: jumping sideways like a John wu movie. Also new and

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Speaker 4: You can take a person as like a meat shield.

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Speaker 1: You can like grab them and use them as a

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Speaker 2: I will say, well, it's not.

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Speaker 1: For me, but in a time in my life it

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Speaker 2: And I will say, look, do I seem like someone

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Speaker 2: Have I played call of duty in the past, yes,

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Speaker 1: Next up, George R. Martin takes to his blog not

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Speaker 1: Wars Outlaws recently released. It came out August thirtieth on Windows,

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Speaker 1: your contact and like get missions. The missions are definitely

437
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Speaker 1: much more on rails than a veteran video game player

438
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Speaker 1: would probably like. But again, I think this is mainly

439
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Speaker 1: for kids and people who's for whom this is their

440
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Speaker 1: first video game experience. Now I'll also say this, don't

441
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Speaker 1: if you have not bought this game, don't buy the

442
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Speaker 1: expensive version. Don't do what I did. You will never

443
00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:34,040
Speaker 1: look at the digital video art book, you will not

444
00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:38,040
Speaker 1: care about the skins, fuck all that shit. Just play

445
00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:40,400
Speaker 1: the very basic version of the game and you will

446
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Speaker 1: get the full vent game experience and you will have

447
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Speaker 1: fun overall. Six out of ten, but like a solid

448
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Speaker 1: six again if this I remember when I was a

449
00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:55,040
Speaker 1: kid first playing video games. I was like, holy shit,

450
00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:58,840
Speaker 1: it is amazing, wow, And I think kids will like it,

451
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Speaker 1: especially like if they are say before around the age

452
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Speaker 1: of like eight, nine, ten, and have not gotten into

453
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Speaker 1: like Fortnite or anything else like that yet. They If

454
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Speaker 1: you're looking for something to get kids into star Wars

455
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Speaker 1: and gaming that's not like crazy and violent, super uber violent,

456
00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:25,320
Speaker 1: with like all sorts of like bad content, adult content,

457
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Speaker 1: Star Wars Outlaws, it's for you, Rosie. You've been playing

458
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Speaker 1: a game, yes, I have so.

459
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Speaker 2: I a while ago, I was waiting for this one

460
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Speaker 2: game that was called that's based on this Scandinavian kid's

461
00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:42,040
Speaker 2: books called The Movements, which I love, and I did

462
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Speaker 2: get that game. It is a rhythm game and it's

463
00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:49,679
Speaker 2: really cute. It's called Snuffkins Melody of Moomon Valley. But

464
00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:51,879
Speaker 2: look that game. I got it on sale. It was

465
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Speaker 2: like fifteen dollars. I was like I'm gonna play this

466
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Speaker 2: game NonStop. But then I got influenced by one of

467
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Speaker 2: the cozy gamers and that game's cute. It's like rhythm game.

468
00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:03,600
Speaker 2: It's very cute. You wander around, it feels kind of

469
00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:05,639
Speaker 2: like a cozy grove actually, which me and Aaron were

470
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Speaker 2: talking about before. But I got influenced by a cozy gamer,

471
00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:13,480
Speaker 2: probably Cozy Gamer Girl, she's always influencing me, who was

472
00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:16,720
Speaker 2: playing a game called Minami Lane that is five dollars

473
00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:21,959
Speaker 2: that has absolutely addicted me, and it is essentially a

474
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Speaker 2: cozy time management game where a Tanooki hires you to

475
00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:32,800
Speaker 2: help get little streets back to bustling kind of thoroughfares.

476
00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:35,800
Speaker 2: And it's like you've got to go in and there

477
00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:38,080
Speaker 2: is one building, and you've got to make sure that

478
00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:40,960
Speaker 2: you have enough buildings so that elder people can come,

479
00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:42,920
Speaker 2: and you've got to make enough buildings so that younger

480
00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:45,840
Speaker 2: people can come. And the challenges of stuff like make

481
00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:49,159
Speaker 2: a karaoke bar that is good for younger people and

482
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Speaker 2: make sure there's one that's good for elder people, and

483
00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:53,679
Speaker 2: there is slight. There's a lot of optional stuff like

484
00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:56,520
Speaker 2: you can do it within six days. You can take

485
00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:58,920
Speaker 2: this much time you can do it with this many buildings,

486
00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:01,560
Speaker 2: so you can add level of stress. But I love

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00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:03,960
Speaker 2: a time management game. And a lot of times, like

488
00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:06,399
Speaker 2: Nick or my friends will be like, why do you

489
00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:11,000
Speaker 2: relax by like doing jobs? Like why is that enjoyable

490
00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:13,360
Speaker 2: to you to like run an errand or run a restaurant?

491
00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:17,440
Speaker 2: I will say this game is so relaxing that even

492
00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:20,720
Speaker 2: people who don't necessarily usually like time management games should

493
00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:25,439
Speaker 2: check it out. It's so beautifully put together too, like

494
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Speaker 2: and also I really, I really like the fact that

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00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:34,880
Speaker 2: they they there are noveral tips for the game because

496
00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:38,440
Speaker 2: the game is very simple, so they just say when

497
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Speaker 2: it comes up, it'll be a tip, and it'll be like,

498
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Speaker 2: we love you, thanks for playing the game.

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Speaker 5: So it just has like entirely great vibes. It has

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00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:51,760
Speaker 5: a gorgeous, really lovely aesthetic. It's made by Doot and

501
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:57,480
Speaker 5: blee Bloop incredible names, and the publisher is Wholesome Games Presents,

502
00:28:57,520 --> 00:29:01,400
Speaker 5: and it is legit like maybe the most enticing game

503
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Speaker 5: I've played this yet absolutely just so addicting.

504
00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:07,000
Speaker 2: Like if you like Stardu Valley and you got addicted

505
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:11,760
Speaker 2: to Stardu Valley, this is like that, but way simpler, way,

506
00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:14,200
Speaker 2: less expansive, and actually more addicting.

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Speaker 1: Wow, huge, you will get addicted. Yeah, that's the time

508
00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:23,640
Speaker 1: management games of the exact same type of game that

509
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Speaker 1: addicts me. You know what, I'm addicted to keeping this

510
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Speaker 1: podcast going. WHOA, stay tuned for a word from our

511
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Speaker 1: responsibility and we're back. Now it is time to talk

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Speaker 1: about Marvel Rivals. Marvel Rivals Free to Play six v

513
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Speaker 1: six Hero Shooter, which is basically overwatched skinned for Marvel,

514
00:29:56,400 --> 00:30:01,840
Speaker 1: was in early access recently. We did get at as

515
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Speaker 1: a show. We got access to the game, and we

516
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Speaker 1: got AT. That access code came through about thirty minutes

517
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Speaker 1: after early access ended, so we were not able to play.

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Speaker 1: But super producer Aaron tell Us and welcome to the show.

519
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Speaker 1: Tell us your thoughts on your very brief relationship with

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Speaker 1: the early access beta of Marvel Rivals.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, so I also, I mean I got it very late.

522
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Speaker 6: I got it with about an hour left. It just

523
00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:36,360
Speaker 6: happened to be I'm on the East Coast and I

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Speaker 6: wake up very early, so I had access to it

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Speaker 6: for the brief moment it was still up that Unfortunately

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Speaker 6: the two of you did not. I will come to

527
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Speaker 6: this as someone who I'm a huge Marvel fan. I've

528
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Speaker 6: actually never played Overwatch, so I have not done too

529
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Speaker 6: many of the team shooters. I had a ton of

530
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Speaker 6: fun it has. I know there's a ton of things

531
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Speaker 6: that are very similar with this Overwatch, including some of

532
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:04,880
Speaker 6: the characters and their move sets are almost one to one.

533
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Speaker 6: I've heard like the Punisher is basically Soldier seventy six.

534
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Speaker 6: But a quick breakdown, there will be I believe it's

535
00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:17,960
Speaker 6: twenty five heroes you can choose and villains, and when

536
00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:21,480
Speaker 6: it launches it will have Captain, American Winner Soldier who

537
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:25,840
Speaker 6: were not in the beta, but everyone all heroes will

538
00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:28,040
Speaker 6: be unlocked and free to play at launch, which is

539
00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:31,160
Speaker 6: very exciting. You don't have to buy the DLC to

540
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Speaker 6: get Doctor Strange or pay extra to have Spider Man.

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Speaker 6: It will only be cosmetic things. I tried characters in

542
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:43,040
Speaker 6: each of the three roles. So there's Vanguard, which is

543
00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:47,600
Speaker 6: basically your tank character, There's Duelists that are dps, and

544
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Speaker 6: then Strategist, which is.

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Speaker 2: The support character.

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Speaker 6: And I know, Jason, you talked to Rosie earlier about

547
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Speaker 6: Overwatch and had suggested a support character for her. So

548
00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:00,320
Speaker 6: some good ones in there, and they're really interesting ways

549
00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:03,200
Speaker 6: they use it, Like Loki is a strategist who he

550
00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:06,640
Speaker 6: makes copies of himself and illusions, and then the more

551
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Speaker 6: illusions he has, the stronger his healing abilities are in

552
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Speaker 6: terms of like the Tanks group realistic like actually makes

553
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Speaker 6: walls of branches like throughout the battlefield to change things.

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Speaker 6: And then for duelists like star Lord, he's very quick

555
00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:30,480
Speaker 6: and whenever you dash it auto reloads his weapon, which

556
00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:33,800
Speaker 6: is some very cool, like unique things. I did think

557
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Speaker 6: it was a little strange, like Magneto and Doctor Strange

558
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Speaker 6: are tanks kind of just because they have shields like

559
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Speaker 6: as part of their power set, and like they needed

560
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Speaker 6: more tanks. But like Hulk is a tank. Yeah, I

561
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Speaker 6: get that, but I don't know if Doctor Strange. If

562
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Speaker 6: I think of him as like a tanky character as opposed.

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Speaker 2: To like a detail, I will say I can't. This

564
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Speaker 2: is not the case with Doctor Strange. I think you're

565
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Speaker 2: onto something that But I will say I feel like

566
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Speaker 2: putting like Magneto in that like tanky kind of space.

567
00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:06,880
Speaker 2: It's definitely also like going back to the old Capcom

568
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Speaker 2: games where I feel like he did he was kind

569
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Speaker 2: of a little bit bigger. He did have that kind

570
00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:14,960
Speaker 2: of shield vibe. But okay, so the one that I

571
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:17,880
Speaker 2: was really interested that they included is like they have

572
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Speaker 2: Adam Warlock in this game, who is one of the

573
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Speaker 2: support characters. Could you talk a little bit about him,

574
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Speaker 2: because that's just like I never even thought i'd see

575
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Speaker 2: Adam Warlock in a video game.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and I didn't play as Adam Warlock, but I

577
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Speaker 6: had he was in games I played, and he does

578
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:34,600
Speaker 6: a cool thing where he connects different teammates. So like

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Speaker 6: if I am getting focused and you connect me to

580
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Speaker 6: one of our other teammates, any damage to me is

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Speaker 6: spread between us. So wow, that's a really fun thing.

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Speaker 6: Like if you do have a tank who's right in

583
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Speaker 6: the middle, and you know, you can spread out that damage,

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Speaker 6: so even if it or a really squishy character shares

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Speaker 6: their damage with a tank. Again, not an Overwatch pro

586
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Speaker 6: by any means, So I don't know what the best

587
00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:02,680
Speaker 6: strategies are, but I had a ton of fun. Rocket

588
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:05,560
Speaker 6: has some really cool things where like he he can

589
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:09,560
Speaker 6: jump on group and just if your teammate is a group,

590
00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:13,000
Speaker 6: he can group. Yeah, and so they do have these

591
00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:16,440
Speaker 6: these team up abilities that like sometimes it's just two characters,

592
00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:22,320
Speaker 6: sometimes it's three, but it's not symmetrical, so like Rocket

593
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:25,360
Speaker 6: has stuff with Punisher and Groop but doesn't have anything

594
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:29,680
Speaker 6: with Captain America for instance. Interesting, but supposedly the developers

595
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Speaker 6: have said they're going to rotate them, so like there

596
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Speaker 6: won't be a Rocket and Adam Warlock thing at launch,

597
00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:38,960
Speaker 6: but maybe two months in it will have that and

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00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:42,880
Speaker 6: they'll rotate out the Punisher and Rocket one. So I

599
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:44,960
Speaker 6: think that feels weird.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they would add and take something away as part

601
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Speaker 1: of the game maintenance.

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00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:52,840
Speaker 6: Taking things away is a choice.

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Speaker 1: I predicted that will be something that will be changed,

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Speaker 1: Like although you know, as a long time Overwatch player,

605
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:04,000
Speaker 1: I still play. They do tweak. The game has been

606
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:07,239
Speaker 1: tweaked regularly and is tweaked between seasons all the time,

607
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:09,920
Speaker 1: and is tweaked mid scenes in a competitive season, just

608
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Speaker 1: based on like who's overpowered who's not. So I could

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00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:18,719
Speaker 1: see that. Yeah, there is precedent for changing games that way,

610
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:22,240
Speaker 1: but like taking an entire mechanic out and the ability

611
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:24,879
Speaker 1: seems weird, but that's neither here nor there.

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00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:27,839
Speaker 2: Maybe they'll do it, Maybe they'll do it more seasonally,

613
00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:29,960
Speaker 2: like yeah, you know kind of how they have like

614
00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:33,799
Speaker 2: Fortnite skins or like different kind of mechanisms you can

615
00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:36,920
Speaker 2: play when it's like Halloween or whatever. Maybe, But I

616
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:39,359
Speaker 2: think you're right, Jason. I feel like if they're doing

617
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:41,799
Speaker 2: it where you can get every character without having to

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Speaker 2: like unlock them like old people used to have to,

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Speaker 2: like we did in all games, or without a DLC,

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Speaker 2: it seems unlikely that it's gonna make sense for them

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Speaker 2: to just be like removing things.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and they're not gonna do that, I mean, unless

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Speaker 1: they really want to enrage a fan base. They're not

624
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:04,040
Speaker 1: gonna make it pay to win, which people will perceive

625
00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:07,200
Speaker 1: it as being paid to win if exactly these moves.

626
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:10,600
Speaker 1: I would imagine the way they're gonna make money for

627
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:15,640
Speaker 1: free to play game is skins, weapon skins, costumes, et cetera.

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Speaker 6: And they've already shared some of those, and so like

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Speaker 6: the Venom character has. One of the skins they previewed

630
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:27,560
Speaker 6: was basically like the very light blue skinned Venom reminiscent

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Speaker 6: of Marvel Capcom. So they have they and they have

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Speaker 6: multiple Magneto skins. I think that I saw like the

633
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Speaker 6: one that they have is like really old, grizzled looking Magneto.

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Speaker 6: I'm sure they'll do like the X Men ninety seven costume,

635
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Speaker 6: Like they'll have so many options there with skins. I

636
00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:46,520
Speaker 6: think kind of like Marvel Capcom. Like as a kid,

637
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Speaker 6: I didn't play a ton of Moral Kombat or Street Fighter,

638
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:51,920
Speaker 6: but I played Marvel Capcom because it was Marvel characters.

639
00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:54,400
Speaker 6: And I have a feeling this will be a similar

640
00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:57,399
Speaker 6: entry point for people like myself who have never played

641
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Speaker 6: Overwatch but love Avengers or X Men, Like you're gonna

642
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:04,719
Speaker 6: jump into this game because it's familiar characters, and like,

643
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:09,120
Speaker 6: I may not have any connection to Winston in Overwatch,

644
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:13,040
Speaker 6: but hey, I understand Venom, and like I can jump

645
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:15,360
Speaker 6: in and play as that character and understand what's going

646
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:18,040
Speaker 6: to happen. You know, he's got webs, he's got the

647
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:21,319
Speaker 6: mobility of swinging around, Like, okay, cool, I'll play him

648
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Speaker 6: and see what happens. So I was a big fan

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Speaker 6: of it for the forty five minutes that I've played,

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Speaker 6: and I can't come out in December.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I love that. That's exactly I've tried to play Overwatch,

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Speaker 2: even though I do think I've watched her some of

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Speaker 2: character designs. I I will be more inclined to try

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Speaker 2: this out because I want to play like me and

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Speaker 2: Jason are sending each other videos. It's like, who doesn't

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Speaker 2: want to be like Groot, like building giant Wolves. I

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Speaker 2: want to play as Adam Warlock, as Derange. I want

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Speaker 2: to play as Magic. I love matth Yeah, Jeff the

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Speaker 2: land Shark. I may shout out to Kelly Thompson like

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Speaker 2: legendary edition there, and Yeah, I just I think that

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Speaker 2: this seems like a lot of fun and I'm definitely

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Speaker 2: interested to see if this is the unexpected breakout because

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Speaker 2: I do feel like we did think Outlaws was probably

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Speaker 2: going to be the big fandom breakout game. But like

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Speaker 2: you said, Jason, I think it has a slightly limited

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Speaker 2: first bubble of Overwatch was so huge. I wonder if

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Speaker 2: this could get people back into it and introduce a

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Speaker 1: Well, Aaron, thanks for joining us, Thank you for updating

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Speaker 1: us on Marvel Rivals. I insanely jell us that you yes.

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Speaker 2: Hopefully we will get to play it soon.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. On Thursday's episode of Extra Vision, we're diving into

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Speaker 1: The Boy and the Heron, which just came out on

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Speaker 1: streaming last weekend, Miyazaki's latest masterpiece. Then we're continuing our

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Speaker 1: journey in Middle Earth on Friday with our recap and

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Speaker 1: reaction to episode five of Rings of Power season two.

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Speaker 1: That's it for this episode. Thanks for listening. Bye x

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Speaker 1: ray Vision is hosted by Jason Kensumsion and Rosie Knight

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Speaker 1: and is a production of iHeart Podcasts. Our executive producers

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Speaker 1: are Joelle Smith and Aaron Kaufman. Our supervising producer is

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Speaker 1: a Boo Zafar. Our producers are Carmen Lron and Mia Taylor.

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Speaker 1: Our theme song is by Brian Basquez.

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Speaker 2: Special thanks to Soul Rubin and Chris Lord, Kenny Goodman

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Speaker 2: and Heidi on Disco Moderata