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Speaker 2: Ooh, good morning and welcome to the No Nunks Podcast,

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Speaker 3: It's Monday, June ninth, twenty twenty five. I'm j Skis

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Speaker 3: here in the Classic Factory and alongside me as always

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Speaker 3: tas Mellis.

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Speaker 1: I love Monday. It's happy Monday.

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Speaker 3: Everybody next to him. It's the bearded one back from

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Speaker 3: OKC trick for me. Hey, hey yo, and over yonder

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Speaker 3: making the magic happen. Super producer JD. Hello, there is here,

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Speaker 3: we are Hello and everybody on YouTube. Hit the like button.

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Speaker 3: Subscribe podcast listeners. Five star ratings and reviews. Great to

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Speaker 3: have you back, TK. Good times in Okac for game

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Speaker 3: one you survived the tornado warnings.

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Speaker 4: Great times in Okac. I felt right at home being

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Speaker 4: back in Tornado Alley. I don't think of Oklahoma City

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Speaker 4: as the Midwest, but when I look out my hotel

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Speaker 4: window and see a Casey's with a Bass Pro Shops behind,

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Speaker 4: That's when I knew I was back home.

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Speaker 3: Wow, now did you see any tumbleweed?

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Speaker 4: Uh? No, I think it's tornado season right now rather

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Speaker 4: than tumbleweed season. So I don't know when they kick

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Speaker 4: into overdrive, but I'm willing to go back in November

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Speaker 4: and scout it out.

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Speaker 3: Hey, look, you got the better of the two games there,

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Speaker 3: and okay, exactly right. Yeah, the sort of instant classic

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Speaker 3: game one game two a little differently with we're gonna

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Speaker 3: dress here today task. But we got some news as well,

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Speaker 3: so he's went dive into this one. I don't know

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Speaker 3: how long it's gonna take because this is sort of

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Speaker 3: maybe how we thought a lot of this finals was

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Speaker 3: gonna go. But anyway, shake Gilders Alexander scored thirty four points.

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Speaker 3: Alix Caruso added twenty off the bench. Wiggins was great

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Speaker 3: off the bunch bench as well. As The Thunder beat

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Speaker 3: the Pacers one twenty three, one oh seven on Sunday night.

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Speaker 3: They tie these finals at one game apiece Game three

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Speaker 3: Wednesday in Indianapolis. But this was a dominating victory as

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Speaker 3: we've seen from this team all posts an all regular

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Speaker 3: season as well. Yeah, after a loss, coming back and

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they looked more like them. And I know a

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Speaker 1: lot of the talk afterwards was Halliburn's gotta be better,

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Speaker 1: Haliburtn's gonna be better, I think the better story was

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Speaker 1: okay see playing to another level. Now Haliburton was defended

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Speaker 1: very hard. But I do think SGA changed the way

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Speaker 1: he played in that first quarter. Instead of taking twelve

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Speaker 1: shots like he did in game one, he only took five.

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Speaker 1: He was looking to get guys involved, finding chet, finding

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Speaker 1: Jalen Williams. When he split that double team, got into

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Speaker 1: the Peyton found him in the corner. That was pretty stuff.

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Speaker 1: So he had three assists in the first quarter. That's

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Speaker 1: what he had the entire game in game number one.

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Speaker 1: So I thought he played entirely different. This team played different,

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Speaker 1: and Jalen Williams came alive. I thought he started bad,

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Speaker 1: but in the second quarter leading that second unit, he

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Speaker 1: or fourteen. Nothing spectacular, But I think he had a

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Speaker 1: play there in the second quarter with that layup that

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Speaker 1: he can put on like a digital frame and have

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Speaker 1: in his house forever. Like he looked idellic. I'm that layup,

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Speaker 1: come on that. That was beautiful stuff.

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Speaker 4: A digital frame.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's nice to be.

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Speaker 4: Able to upload photos from far away.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, like from okay see, you got a

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Speaker 3: That's like, do you have one in your house?

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Speaker 1: I do not.

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Speaker 3: Okay, we have to get you something for Christmas.

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Speaker 1: Well, old people get it usually.

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, great gift.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah yeah, we got it. We got some gramps,

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Speaker 1: some of those. But he definitely got the group going.

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Speaker 1: You know, check got going, Shay Gills, Alexander when he

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Speaker 1: I thought Wiggins in this one was way more impactful

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Speaker 1: But he was just awesome, so everybody around Shay, who

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Speaker 1: two to get to thirty four points. Now, the Haliburton thing,

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Speaker 1: they definitely played him harder. They were showing more bodies

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Speaker 1: And you saw Halburn finding Miles Turner, like in the

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Speaker 1: drop off to Haliburton in the mid range thing. So

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Speaker 1: they got him going. But really I think the biggest

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Speaker 1: part was, Okay, see showing why they're here. I don't

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Speaker 1: think they even played exactly up to their potential. They

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Speaker 1: played better, yeah, but I don't think we're even done here.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, including the NBA Cup title game, which doesn't count

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Speaker 3: really in the standings. The Thunder are now eighteen and two,

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Speaker 3: this season win coming off a loss. Of those eighteen wins,

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Speaker 3: twelve them double digit wins, so dominant victories here and

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Speaker 3: this has been sort of the trend here in the

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Speaker 3: ass kicking. But yeah, TK, what jumped out to you?

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Speaker 3: Do you start with SGA or is it all these

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Speaker 4: How do you really separate him? Because I mean eight

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Speaker 4: assists for Shay Gil just Alexander, I think is a

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Speaker 4: hockey assist, you know, dumping at to Hartenstein who throws

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Speaker 4: it over the top to chat Holmgrin for a massive dunk.

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Speaker 4: But Shae was just living in the lane and this

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Speaker 4: one that's the big difference between him and Haliburton right now.

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Speaker 4: Halibe Burton can't get two feet in the lane and

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Speaker 4: Shay is there basically anytime he wants to. The Oklahoma

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Speaker 4: shake gilges Alexander in this one. His mid range game

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Speaker 4: it really hard to help. It was either Jadub handling

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Speaker 4: these drives. Shay clearly saw something in the way the

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Speaker 4: was giving him so many options, and the Pacers just

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Speaker 4: him down as well. Four threes from Caruso, five threes

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Speaker 4: from Aaron Wiggins. That's huge. You factor in Jalen Williams

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Speaker 4: getting downhill getting to the free throw line. He didn't

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Speaker 4: shoot very well from the floor, but was able to

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Speaker 4: make it up efficiency wise by knocking down free throws.

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Speaker 4: Chet Holmgren looked more aggressive and the Thunder just played

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Speaker 4: bigger In general, they did do the two big lineup

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Speaker 4: if Thomas Bryant is out there, they're willing to do it.

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Speaker 4: But in general, no zero big lineups for the Thunder,

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Speaker 4: which I thought was big. They controlled the glass. Hartenstein

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Speaker 4: Like this wasn't a great defensive game for okay, see

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Speaker 4: just a normal defensive game. They forced fifteen turnovers, but

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Speaker 4: they were much better getting out to three point shooters.

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Speaker 4: And their best defense was they were making a ton

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Speaker 4: and actually set things up defensively, which is why Haliburton

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Speaker 3: Halliburton, those paint touches. You brought it up heading into

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Speaker 3: this series task I remember, like, keep your eye on that.

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Speaker 3: to shooters. The numbers are sort of wild. I saw

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Speaker 3: this by way of ESPN. This inability for Haliburt to

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Speaker 3: He touched the paint on nine of his one hundred

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Speaker 3: touches nine percent in Game two, after touching the paint

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Speaker 3: Game one, which is like six and point five percent.

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Speaker 3: So like these are his two lowest percentages in all

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Speaker 3: of the playoff games he's played. He can't get by

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Speaker 3: mainly dor when he's on them. He just cannot get

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Speaker 3: off even before he touches paint. So that's been a

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Speaker 3: in game three for them to you know, steal one

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Speaker 3: home team, but they they did. They never win game threes,

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Speaker 3: so they need to fix that. They still yet to

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Speaker 3: win a game three here in the postseason.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I think the Thunder one and two though too, so

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Speaker 3: they haven't been good in game threes either.

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Speaker 1: But that's yeah, there it was. I think Nemhard was

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Speaker 1: a little bit bigger in Game one, that's for sure.

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Speaker 1: At taking the ball up. But I think they did

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Speaker 1: solve something a little bit in the fourth quarter when

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Speaker 1: Nemhard was bringing the ball up going to a guy

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Speaker 1: to Haliburn, so starting it elsewhere to get it going

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Speaker 1: a great fourth quarter. He hit more shots in game

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Speaker 1: two than he hit in game one.

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Speaker 4: Weird.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, obviously we all note the end shot, which was spectacular,

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Speaker 1: but I think part of it is what Trey mentioned

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Speaker 1: with the the no bigs, I mean the quintuple smalls

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Speaker 1: to end game one. They didn't have any bigs. Okay,

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Speaker 1: see on the floor, and so I think that's done.

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Speaker 1: I mean, they bitch can't do that anymore.

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Speaker 3: Well, it helps when chet Holmgren. I thought he came

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Speaker 3: out aggressive in this game too, like he missed a

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Speaker 3: bunny inside, but he got it right back and scored

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Speaker 3: like he was looking to score. I think he had

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Speaker 3: nine quick points. Yeah, making plays defensively well, like he

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Speaker 3: was just engaged. You could tell They're like, we need

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Speaker 4: Turner was one for five from three in this one. Obviously,

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Speaker 4: The Thunder as series go on, are generally more and

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Speaker 4: But he's got to knock him down. And maybe he

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Speaker 3: Yeah, forty one points in the first half. They shot

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Speaker 3: thirty five percent Indy did from the floor. That's not

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Speaker 3: going to cut it against this great defensive team. It

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Speaker 3: that second quarter, I mean it was like a nineteen

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Speaker 3: You have to be like, I don't know, I guess

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Speaker 3: they're down the whole time. You're watching the scoreboard, right,

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Speaker 5: But you're like, uh, a ton of time left.

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Speaker 3: You know, we've seen them do this before. But obviously

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Speaker 3: I thought, okay, see came out locked and ready, ready

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Speaker 3: like no, no, no, we're not taking our foot off

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it seemed like a blow out in that second quarter.

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Speaker 1: I know you're you're sending some messages in the chats

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Speaker 1: It was that one weird play where she just got

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Speaker 1: and that's when Mike Breen said, we've got a thunder avalanche.

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Speaker 3: They went on a channel run right away.

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Speaker 5: I'm like, oh, what am I done?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they just I mean, this was a must win

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Speaker 1: Point, Yeah, the third quarter they were yeah, they kept

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Speaker 1: it going. They were guarding those corner threes. There was

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Speaker 1: two block threes on corner three point shots from the Pacers,

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Speaker 1: you know, Wallace Scott won. And then in the fourth

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Speaker 1: quarter they started it with offensive rebound after offensive rebound

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Speaker 1: first two minutes of the fourth quarter. So yeah, they

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Speaker 1: weren't gonna lose.

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Speaker 3: The third quarter. That was the free throw contest.

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Speaker 4: Yes, it was Holy moly.

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Speaker 3: We had the teams in bonus early and we had

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Speaker 3: a lot of free throws, both Scotts, Like, I mean,

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Speaker 3: I know that's where SGA got a lot of his

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Speaker 3: in that quarter there, But man Pacers were going to line.

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Speaker 5: Just as much.

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Speaker 4: Like eleven for the Pacers, thirteen for fourteen for the thunder.

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Speaker 4: Pretty good fundamentals, though not hit him down.

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Speaker 5: Everybody not gotten down the.

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Speaker 4: Free throw twenty four twenty eight. Can't complain.

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Speaker 3: SGA threw eighteen games here in the postseason is averaging

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Speaker 3: thirty point eight points per game, six point eight assists,

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Speaker 3: five point six rebounds, one point eight steals. How many

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Speaker 3: guys have ever done that in their postseason where they've

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Speaker 3: played like sixteen games or more. It's two other guys

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Speaker 3: right now. SGA would be joining this list of Michael

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Speaker 3: Jordan who did it four times and Lebron James, who

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Speaker 3: did it twice. I was just like, it is what, Like,

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Speaker 3: I know he's the MVP. I know he has talked

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Speaker 3: These are insane numbers and the consistency that's the whole thing.

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Speaker 3: Even Rick Carlo, like heading back to India here for

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Speaker 3: Game three, he's like, well, you can just put it

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Speaker 3: thirty four point yep. He even admits like we can't

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Speaker 3: really sol the guy, like there's been no answer all

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Speaker 5: The other guys.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you watched the highlights back as they're playing through

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Speaker 4: the game, and this is great defense by the Pacers

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Speaker 4: to even be close to him. But it just doesn't

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Speaker 4: dribbling fifteen times. Row way, I'm going left, I'm going left,

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Speaker 4: I'm going let, I'm going leve, I'm going left. Oh,

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Speaker 4: I'm shooting the jump shot in your face. It was

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Speaker 4: all night for Halliburton living in the mid range and

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Speaker 4: knocking him down when he's shooting that well, and you're

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Speaker 4: getting the performance is from the other Thunder. That's why

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Speaker 4: they score one hundred and twenty two points. Good luck

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Speaker 4: out scoring a Thunder team that scores this many points

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Speaker 4: when they play the defense they do. They had the

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they're bench giving them like fifty to twenty basically

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Speaker 3: making Caruso shoot like he's got to be a part

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Speaker 4: But he's killing the pay now. Yeah, and as was Wiggins.

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Speaker 4: Of course, Chat knocked him down. Jayalen Williams, like we said,

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Speaker 4: didn't shoot well, but he was good attacking thirteen assists

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Speaker 4: in game two they up that to twenty five assists

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Speaker 4: on forty makes. The ball is just moving a lot

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Speaker 4: more smoothly. I think Mark Degnahl afterwards said that Indiana

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Speaker 4: is an acquired taste, meaning learning how to play with them,

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Speaker 4: not as if you live there you got to get

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Speaker 4: used to having corn with everything. But it is an

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Speaker 4: I thought it was smart how many post ups shake

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Speaker 4: Gill just Alexander was getting because he was getting down

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Speaker 4: They got so many good looks for their three point shooters,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And then the one time where he didn't pass

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Speaker 1: Yes, Shay got his Canadian bro and he poked it

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Speaker 1: away from him on that fast break, and he did

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Speaker 1: you commented on skates you're waiting for it. He got

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Speaker 3: I thought he was really good defensively in this game.

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Speaker 3: I know it's all talking about he's scoring, but man,

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Speaker 3: a lot of those poked from behind the wrap round.

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Speaker 3: He had an awesome block in this game too. I thought,

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Speaker 3: Is this could be a gentleman's no, a douchebag sweep.

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Speaker 4: I mean, it definitely could be. It wouldn't be dissimilar

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Speaker 4: to two thousand and one Finals. Incredible performance by Allen

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Speaker 4: I ever seen carries the Sixers over the Lakers. They

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Speaker 4: feels like Oakless Homes City has played better so far.

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Speaker 4: Through four halves, they've outplayed the Pacers and three of them.

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Speaker 4: I didn't think Indiana really established themselves in this game

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Speaker 4: That was pacer style basketball. In quarters three and four

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Speaker 4: of Game one, and this one it was thunder throughout.

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Speaker 4: So maybe they can look at the fourth quarter and say, yeah,

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Speaker 4: it in there. But okay see, has to win one

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Speaker 4: I do think you would say game to game, Indiana

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the two thousand and one comparison is a good one.

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Speaker 1: I couldn't help but think of the twenty thirteen NBA

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I do think they're the favorite one sort of

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Speaker 4: A little bit of time.

433
00:18:06,080 --> 00:18:08,000
Speaker 3: Here when in the competitive portion of the game he

434
00:18:08,080 --> 00:18:10,080
Speaker 3: got us good, an opportunity that we thought maybe would

435
00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:11,720
Speaker 3: come in Game one, never really did. Didn't get it

436
00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:14,320
Speaker 3: there a lot, but you see Dagnelt switching up some

437
00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:17,120
Speaker 3: things here and more like, yeah, let's keep a big

438
00:18:17,160 --> 00:18:19,360
Speaker 3: out here, let's stay big on this team and help

439
00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:20,160
Speaker 3: our chances there.

440
00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:24,200
Speaker 1: Anything else, well, you mentioned all the guys coming in.

441
00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:28,040
Speaker 1: James Johnson playing in his first NBA finals, that's cool,

442
00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:31,400
Speaker 1: sixteen years here in the NBA. He's thirty eight, he's

443
00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:33,520
Speaker 1: an old man, but he got to be on the floor.

444
00:18:33,520 --> 00:18:36,000
Speaker 3: He took about eight seconds to reference how he's like

445
00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:37,840
Speaker 3: the toughest guy in the league. Co was happy about

446
00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:38,800
Speaker 3: that he scored.

447
00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:40,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's warder basket. That's cool.

448
00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:42,760
Speaker 1: Yea, that's about it from him.

449
00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:45,160
Speaker 3: Excuse me, anything else as I choke here?

450
00:18:47,640 --> 00:18:49,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean we talked about the bigs. Chat went

451
00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:51,600
Speaker 4: from twenty four to twenty eight minutes, and that's you know,

452
00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:54,880
Speaker 4: with the last three minutes basically being garbage time. Hartenstein

453
00:18:54,920 --> 00:18:57,000
Speaker 4: went from seventeen to twenty two minutes, and then Kendrick

454
00:18:57,040 --> 00:19:00,199
Speaker 4: Williams went from thirty nine seconds to seven minutes and

455
00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:03,879
Speaker 4: was a plus fifteen without scoring. Just the physicality and

456
00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:07,000
Speaker 4: having guys out there who are gonna contribute.

457
00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:07,040
Speaker 1: On the glass.

458
00:19:07,040 --> 00:19:08,800
Speaker 4: I think was big for okay seeing this one.

459
00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:13,879
Speaker 3: Okay, with that said, let's get to some random notes.

460
00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:24,159
Speaker 3: Random random notes. I don't have a lot from this

461
00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:29,800
Speaker 3: one time, but but NBA fans after Game one were

462
00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:33,000
Speaker 3: missing the Larry O'Brien dcal out on the court. We

463
00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:36,480
Speaker 3: talked about it in great detail on Friday's podcast, What's

464
00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:38,680
Speaker 3: going on? Why does it not look like a finals

465
00:19:38,680 --> 00:19:41,200
Speaker 3: game at all? It just looks like a regular season game.

466
00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:44,879
Speaker 3: Everybody was saying this, Well, NBA and Navy c slash

467
00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:48,760
Speaker 3: ESPN whatever. I guess they responded on Sunday night, though,

468
00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:53,760
Speaker 3: the execution drew some mixed reactions because the league and

469
00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:57,840
Speaker 3: broadcast opted for in the first quarter at least two

470
00:19:58,119 --> 00:20:01,920
Speaker 3: tiny digital Larry O'Brien trophies that a lot of people

471
00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:05,720
Speaker 3: said just looked like emoji's just sort of count out there.

472
00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:07,159
Speaker 3: And then in the second quarter they went to the

473
00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:12,040
Speaker 3: final script. So I guess they're listening a little bit

474
00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:13,720
Speaker 3: task but a lot of people were just clowning this

475
00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:14,800
Speaker 3: this as much. I don't know if you had an

476
00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:15,400
Speaker 3: opinion on it.

477
00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:18,360
Speaker 1: Well, the meme going around of Adam silver on the

478
00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:21,800
Speaker 1: phone was funny because hey, this is clip art. Can

479
00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:24,480
Speaker 1: we change it to the NBA Final script because it

480
00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:28,120
Speaker 1: didn't last long that they had the digital ario. Brian's

481
00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:30,200
Speaker 1: out there to change it up because it does look

482
00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:34,520
Speaker 1: like clip art. Yeah, because I was watching on the

483
00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:37,720
Speaker 1: the in arena feed and on the in arena feed

484
00:20:37,760 --> 00:20:40,240
Speaker 1: they don't have those, okay, right, they just don't have

485
00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:44,040
Speaker 1: the digital abilities. I guess, I don't know, So they

486
00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:44,600
Speaker 1: don't get.

487
00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:46,359
Speaker 3: Any of the other stuff. Then you don't get like

488
00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:48,119
Speaker 3: Emirates and other logos and.

489
00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:48,920
Speaker 5: Stuff like that.

490
00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:49,760
Speaker 1: That's a good question.

491
00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:51,119
Speaker 3: They're obviously putting stuff up.

492
00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:53,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, yeah, no skims, no nothing.

493
00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:56,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, I saw it like international viewers also don't see

494
00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:57,720
Speaker 4: that kind of stuff because it's sold.

495
00:20:57,440 --> 00:20:59,520
Speaker 1: As ads here, right yeah, oh.

496
00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:01,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay right yeah.

497
00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:04,080
Speaker 1: So then I saw on the tweeter on the X

498
00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:07,879
Speaker 1: hey are these actually there? Because I'm not seeing it

499
00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:10,000
Speaker 1: on my feet, So you know, I went over and

500
00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:12,680
Speaker 1: it had already changed to the NBA Finals script. I

501
00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:16,000
Speaker 1: guess Adams call. Adam's phone call came in, Hey, we

502
00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:17,560
Speaker 1: got to change that thing. It did not look good.

503
00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:19,920
Speaker 1: The NBA Finals the final script looked better.

504
00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:22,440
Speaker 3: I guess yeah, sure.

505
00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:26,400
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, that one does look like clip Ark specifically.

506
00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:29,199
Speaker 3: Well do you think TK we haven't even had your

507
00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:31,800
Speaker 3: real reaction to Well, we were saying after game one

508
00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:33,240
Speaker 3: when you just turned, I know you were in the arena,

509
00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:35,000
Speaker 3: so it was a different experience for you, but didn't

510
00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:36,120
Speaker 3: feel like a finals game.

511
00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:38,480
Speaker 4: And we were watching game one that that little add

512
00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:41,120
Speaker 4: on the stanchion didn't do it for you. It did

513
00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:44,520
Speaker 4: not know led I'm in the minority here. I prefer

514
00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:46,679
Speaker 4: the script to the logos. Okay, Like I think the

515
00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:49,520
Speaker 4: logos look super dated and like of the twenty tens,

516
00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:52,159
Speaker 4: but I understand why people want them back. The pageantry

517
00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:54,800
Speaker 4: is there. This looks kind of weird. It looks like

518
00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:57,800
Speaker 4: they were glowing, you know. Yeah, I think, yeah, you

519
00:21:57,840 --> 00:22:00,760
Speaker 4: they're just too obvious that they're not on the court.

520
00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:03,680
Speaker 4: There's got to be a way to integrate it more

521
00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:06,920
Speaker 4: smoothly because that look like they're like, oh, we should

522
00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:08,719
Speaker 4: have put something on the court. Can you do anything

523
00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:10,919
Speaker 4: in post production? Yeah, sure, I got it. Let me

524
00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:14,959
Speaker 4: press this button. Here's a little guy. Yeah, very small.

525
00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:17,600
Speaker 4: Not my favorite, but you know they're trying.

526
00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:20,439
Speaker 3: They did try, They did try, but it like they

527
00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:24,040
Speaker 3: got clowned even more for which is my favorite party tough.

528
00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:27,320
Speaker 3: So that's the one that everybody's talking about. I other

529
00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:29,639
Speaker 3: have some trivia for you guys here. It's based off

530
00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:31,560
Speaker 3: the last night because we're talking about chet and he

531
00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:33,520
Speaker 3: is now one of these guys to have hit twenty

532
00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:37,120
Speaker 3: five plus threes and over thirty blocks in one postseason run.

533
00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:38,359
Speaker 5: Okay, And I was wondering if you.

534
00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:41,879
Speaker 3: Could tell me the other four guys in addition to

535
00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:44,800
Speaker 3: chet Holmgrin that have done twenty five threes thirty blocks

536
00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:46,160
Speaker 3: in one playoff.

537
00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:48,600
Speaker 5: Season, right, how many guys?

538
00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:49,280
Speaker 1: How many guys?

539
00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:49,399
Speaker 5: Oh?

540
00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:51,120
Speaker 3: You got four other guys And I'll tell you right now.

541
00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:51,920
Speaker 3: One guys this year.

542
00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:55,919
Speaker 4: One guys this year. Yeah, in addition to check Holmgren,

543
00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:59,240
Speaker 4: Miles Turner correct, Yeah, yeah, this is my way of

544
00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:01,680
Speaker 4: stat use by the Yeah, and then three other ones.

545
00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:04,200
Speaker 4: And I think they they're all edible.

546
00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:07,800
Speaker 1: Kevin Durant, No, Timothy Duncan No.

547
00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:10,360
Speaker 3: No, we're looking for a decent amount of threes here.

548
00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:16,040
Speaker 1: Twenty five threes chance a guy.

549
00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:18,760
Speaker 3: I'm assuming this guy did it last season, can we

550
00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:21,600
Speaker 3: I'm assuming no?

551
00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:26,159
Speaker 4: No, Jason Tatum, no, al Al Horford thirty blocks. I'm surprised.

552
00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:28,240
Speaker 3: That's Al Horford and then two other guys.

553
00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:32,280
Speaker 1: One is there a surge of baka in there?

554
00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:34,280
Speaker 3: No, there's not a surge of baka.

555
00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:37,160
Speaker 1: You like the deep dudes, you did like it.

556
00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:41,160
Speaker 5: That was a great year for No.

557
00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:44,080
Speaker 3: This guy played against Lebron, a bunch of finals. I

558
00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:48,760
Speaker 3: think you're surprised that he hit twenty five plus. Traymon Green, Yeah,

559
00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:50,720
Speaker 3: but he did have like games where he hit like

560
00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:55,879
Speaker 3: six and then played a lot too. Final guy, a

561
00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:58,440
Speaker 3: classic guy that people say if he played in today's era,

562
00:23:58,520 --> 00:23:59,960
Speaker 3: he'd be even better than he was.

563
00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:03,800
Speaker 4: Rashid Wallace bing go, yeah, I could shoot.

564
00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:05,879
Speaker 3: Yes, give me some defense as well, so you go.

565
00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:06,160
Speaker 5: Yeah.

566
00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:08,320
Speaker 3: From stat muse, twenty five plus three is thirty blocks

567
00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:11,679
Speaker 3: in the playoffs. Draymond Green, Rashid Wallace, Al Horford, Miles Turner,

568
00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:15,280
Speaker 3: and Chet Holmgren. That's pretty amazing. Chet Holmgren's like by

569
00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:17,359
Speaker 3: far the youngest guy on that list. Yeah, like that's

570
00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:20,119
Speaker 3: to give it on both ends like that, And my

571
00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:22,240
Speaker 3: final thought on him watching the game with Nora last night,

572
00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:28,560
Speaker 3: she started calling Chet Holmgren cousin Greg from a succession,

573
00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:30,359
Speaker 3: So I was like, I sort of like that. I

574
00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:33,320
Speaker 3: might have to start referring to any other random notes.

575
00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:37,040
Speaker 4: Miles Turner had an awesome dunk on Isaiah Harten, so

576
00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:38,920
Speaker 4: I guess that was what the beginning of the fourth

577
00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:42,399
Speaker 4: quarter came, thundering down the lane, big time jam. That

578
00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:45,159
Speaker 4: was cool. Also, Thomas Bryant had a block through the

579
00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:48,720
Speaker 4: rim and there and Richard Jefferson spotted it right away. Yeah,

580
00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:51,240
Speaker 4: we're gonna see that. That's a goltending. And it was

581
00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:53,240
Speaker 4: a goaltending but.

582
00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:56,399
Speaker 3: Not ever not called. Yeah, yeah, but you're right, yeah,

583
00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:59,880
Speaker 3: like so blatantly too. Han went straight up.

584
00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:02,120
Speaker 4: Through the rim. There was just a couple of fingers.

585
00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:02,440
Speaker 5: Yeah.

586
00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:05,520
Speaker 1: You think if Richard could see it from courtside that

587
00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:07,960
Speaker 1: a referee would be able to see it. But I

588
00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:08,280
Speaker 1: guess not.

589
00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:08,800
Speaker 5: Didn't.

590
00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:11,600
Speaker 3: It didn't matter in the end, it matter. No, I

591
00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:15,000
Speaker 3: was gonna say, they kept the possession, didn't they scored

592
00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:15,600
Speaker 3: five seconds?

593
00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:16,040
Speaker 5: Yeah?

594
00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:17,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, anything else?

595
00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:19,439
Speaker 1: Well, I just look at because I am surprised that

596
00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:22,359
Speaker 1: Miles Turner has so many bucks. He's leading the NBA

597
00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:25,120
Speaker 1: in terms of the playoffs blocks with thirty nine. It's

598
00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:26,240
Speaker 1: a lot of blocks.

599
00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:32,840
Speaker 3: Thirty nine played in how many games actually, eighteen?

600
00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:34,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's pretty impressive.

601
00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:37,680
Speaker 1: Eighteen, so you know, two plus blocks per game. Notes

602
00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:42,280
Speaker 1: Mike Brein noted that Andrew Nemhart is being called playoff Drew.

603
00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:45,920
Speaker 1: He doesn't like it. He'd rather have playoff Andrew. I'm

604
00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:50,000
Speaker 1: excusing he called playoff Andrew. He prefers playoffs. That's my mistake.

605
00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:53,400
Speaker 1: That's my mistake. But yeah, he doesn't. He doesn't really

606
00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:56,159
Speaker 1: like the whole playoff thing. I guess he's better in that.

607
00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:00,919
Speaker 4: I've been saving this. There's only three players Basketball Reference

608
00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:04,480
Speaker 4: who have playoff nicknames officially Playoff Jimmy yep.

609
00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:10,080
Speaker 5: Oh, there's another one, obvious one.

610
00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:13,840
Speaker 1: It's not is anybody in the currents.

611
00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:14,840
Speaker 4: No, nobody in the current finals.

612
00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:15,520
Speaker 3: Who the hell?

613
00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:18,440
Speaker 5: Why am I trying to play on this? Uh?

614
00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:20,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, let me know if you want to. Well, this

615
00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:22,679
Speaker 4: guy gave himself his playoff nickname.

616
00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:23,679
Speaker 3: Oh it's a.

617
00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:25,840
Speaker 5: P yes.

618
00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:30,280
Speaker 4: And then there's one retired player. I think he would

619
00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:34,720
Speaker 4: probably know more so as national TV this guy. But

620
00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:39,159
Speaker 4: it is listed as playoff this guy, Mark Jackson. No, no, no, no,

621
00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:44,880
Speaker 4: kind of. He's got two championships, huge part of one,

622
00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:48,560
Speaker 4: smaller part but instrumental part of a second.

623
00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:52,960
Speaker 1: One playoff Rondo.

624
00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:54,800
Speaker 4: But like I'm saying I thought it was more National

625
00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:58,160
Speaker 4: TV Rondo. He had fifteen assists on a national TV game.

626
00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:03,520
Speaker 3: Okay, so what Drew is gonna get that basketball reference nickname?

627
00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:06,320
Speaker 3: They added a nickname for Tyre's Halibert, and you see that?

628
00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:07,919
Speaker 3: What the moment?

629
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:09,960
Speaker 5: Really? Okay?

630
00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:13,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I got added to his b ball reference page.

631
00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:18,560
Speaker 1: This is so fun. Yes, Samurai, Miles Miles Turner, what

632
00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:20,000
Speaker 1: his nickname is? Samurai?

633
00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:21,679
Speaker 3: That's the thing about these nicknames.

634
00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:24,480
Speaker 4: He used to have. Definitely more of the ponytail on top.

635
00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:27,159
Speaker 4: He was letting it down last night though, I noticed

636
00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:27,840
Speaker 4: Myles Turner.

637
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:30,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, they've got to add it to them heart. I mean,

638
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:33,600
Speaker 1: he is ridiculous. How good he's been twenty nine percent

639
00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:36,680
Speaker 1: shooting from three up to well, let's dropped to forty five.

640
00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:40,840
Speaker 1: He was over fifty, but he's turned it on. Man.

641
00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:42,760
Speaker 5: He has playoff Drew.

642
00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:45,720
Speaker 3: Every time they call him Drew, I have to, like,

643
00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:47,600
Speaker 3: I go, I'm always like, who are they talking about?

644
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:50,320
Speaker 3: Because you're like, yeah, we don't ever call him Drew.

645
00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:53,400
Speaker 3: It's like one of those things, all right. Anything else

646
00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:54,640
Speaker 3: on the other trivias, I mean.

647
00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:57,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, I saw the guy that looks like Jesus yeah,

648
00:27:57,080 --> 00:27:58,679
Speaker 4: on the broadcast, and I didn't see Hi when we

649
00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:00,720
Speaker 4: were there. They brought him up. I saw him last night.

650
00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:02,280
Speaker 3: They had a great shot of him. It looked like

651
00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:04,800
Speaker 3: he went down to like Heckle the free throw shooter,

652
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Speaker 3: and then the camera like came down the eye right

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Speaker 3: and then you can see him. That's right, exact note

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Speaker 3: saw Jesus. There was a guy I was just in

655
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Speaker 3: Detroit for for a show over the weekend. There's a

656
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Speaker 3: guy driving around a pickup truck had like the spray

657
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Speaker 3: painted you know, Jesus safes and uh but blasting vanilla ice.

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Speaker 4: Detroit.

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Speaker 5: Yes, like weird, very hot.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I got some news for you guys, just quickly.

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Speaker 1: Here.

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Speaker 3: Don Nelson, a Basketball Hall of Famer and three time

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Speaker 3: NBA Coach of the Year, was announced Sunday as this

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Speaker 3: year's recipient of the Chuck Daily Lifetime Achievement Award. It

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Speaker 3: was formally given out to Don Nelson on Sunday night

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Speaker 3: ahead of Game two, and he had a he had

667
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Speaker 3: a fun little singer about his support for Luca and

668
00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:52,120
Speaker 3: how how could the MAVs trade him? But yeah, don

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Speaker 3: Nelson getting always you know, there's always his wards. You

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Speaker 3: forget about and this is the Lifetime Achievement Award, but

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Speaker 3: well deserving for a guy that which over thirty years

672
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Speaker 3: has a has second all time in wins and games coached.

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Speaker 3: So he's very high on this list. And they got

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Speaker 3: him out of Hawaii.

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Speaker 4: It looks great for eighty five living in Hawaii. Good

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Speaker 4: for your longevity, right, he probably he looks the same

677
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Speaker 4: as when he retired from the NBA. I felt like

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Speaker 4: and man, he basically called what the NBA was going

679
00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:20,160
Speaker 4: to become. Small ball used to be called nelly ball.

680
00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:22,280
Speaker 4: There was one guy who was going to do it.

681
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Speaker 4: Chris Weber was like, no way, I'm playing center. That

682
00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:26,280
Speaker 4: guy would be a center from the second he got

683
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Speaker 4: into the NBA these days. So that's the thing I'll

684
00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:31,520
Speaker 4: always remember about Don Nelson. And then of course wearing

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Speaker 4: ties that looked like fish. Yeah, nobody else did that,

686
00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:38,360
Speaker 4: straight up trout hanging from your neck. Very cool. He

687
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Speaker 4: got my Lifetime Achievement Award for that, right right, it's

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Speaker 4: eighty five.

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Speaker 1: It's unbelievable seeing him up there, and yeah, they got

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Speaker 1: him out of Hawaii for the first time in seven

691
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Speaker 1: years to accept this award, But he wanted to make

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Speaker 1: it clear that he was protesting. He called it a protest.

693
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Speaker 1: I want everybody to know. I'm wearing Luca's shoes, his

694
00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:58,000
Speaker 1: new shoes from Nike that just got on the market,

695
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Speaker 1: and I wore them in protest for the trade from

696
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Speaker 1: Dallas because he's mad about it.

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Speaker 3: Tremendous mistake, he called it.

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Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, And it's because in part, I guess maybe

699
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Speaker 1: it's a familial thing because his son drafted Luka Dogs, right,

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Speaker 1: Donnie Nelson he.

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Speaker 3: Was, Yeah, he was part of the Mavericks organization for

702
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Speaker 3: a long time.

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Speaker 1: Right, So he really he's really mad about it. I mean,

704
00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:23,880
Speaker 1: it's four months later, he's ready to know for sure.

705
00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:28,120
Speaker 3: And then other news is sort of disappointing news. Grizzlies

706
00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:31,400
Speaker 3: all rookie center Zach edy Re sprained his left ankle

707
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Speaker 3: in an off season workout earlier this week, and he's

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Speaker 3: under going to go under He's undergoing surgery to restabilize

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Speaker 3: the ankle, and he's likely going to miss the beginning

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Speaker 3: of the twenty five twenty sixth season. I'd forgot that

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Speaker 3: he had some ankle issues during the regular season, really

712
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Speaker 3: early in the season in November. He missed a chunk

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Speaker 3: of time. But yeah, it sort of puts the Grizzlies

714
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Speaker 3: in an interesting spot. I don't have a lot of

715
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Speaker 3: bigs on their roster. I mean, Brandon Clark was injured too.

716
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Speaker 3: I guess they're hoping he'll be healthy but starting next season.

717
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Speaker 3: But takeaways from Edie's ankle injury.

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Speaker 1: Well, it stinks that it happened in an offseason workout,

719
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Speaker 1: and that he said part of what made him feel

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Speaker 1: good during the regular season was when he got over

721
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Speaker 1: those injuries and that he was just healthy enough to play.

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Speaker 1: And the thing that he'll remember, as he said, was

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Speaker 1: getting back into the flow of things and playing basketball

724
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Speaker 1: and not being held off the floor. So that's this

725
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Speaker 1: kind of just sucks that it's another injury that stemmed

726
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Speaker 1: from an injury that happened last season. So yes, that's

727
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:31,040
Speaker 1: that's the terrible part.

728
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and anytime we're talking about a guy that's what

729
00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:36,160
Speaker 3: is he seven to four, we're talking about an ankle injury,

730
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:39,680
Speaker 3: it's like, God, yeah, that's not not good. But hopefully

731
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Speaker 3: this is you know, they take care of it here

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Speaker 3: with the surgery and now he's good to go. At

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Speaker 3: some point earlier in the twenty five twenty six campaign.

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Speaker 4: That's right, you got a semi track, you better fix

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Speaker 4: that flat tire.

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Speaker 5: That's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, something that big, it's gotta be nice. So he

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Speaker 4: must really need this surgery if he's going to be

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Speaker 4: out at the start of next season, which doesn't start

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Speaker 4: for four and a half months at this point, So

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Speaker 4: I guess he's going to be laid up and then

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Speaker 4: it'll be a bit of a rehab period to get

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Speaker 4: back on the court. But better to get it done

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00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:08,280
Speaker 4: early rather than late, and then hope he doesn't pick

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Speaker 4: up anything nagging like this once the season starts.

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Speaker 5: As well.

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Speaker 3: The Athletic did write about his absence and how it

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Speaker 3: does put the Grizzlies front office in this weird position

750
00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:18,360
Speaker 3: again waiting on Clark a little bit. Who was out

751
00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:20,960
Speaker 3: with that right pcl Sprain missed the tail end of

752
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:24,600
Speaker 3: the season, but the free agent center market not exactly robust,

753
00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:27,080
Speaker 3: as the Athletic put it. A few names that could

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00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:30,560
Speaker 3: maybe help the Grizzlies. Steven Adams could they bring him

755
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:34,400
Speaker 3: back than Steve twenty twenty three was in Memphis, obviously

756
00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:37,680
Speaker 3: a fan favorite. They could also consider options like Brook Lopez,

757
00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:42,720
Speaker 3: Clint Capella, Kevon Looney. They could help immediately probably get

758
00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:44,920
Speaker 3: had at the non tax payer mid level rate, so

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00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:47,680
Speaker 3: we'll see. I mean I'm jumping ahead here, but that

760
00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:50,200
Speaker 3: was the athletic guys bringing that up on Well, they

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00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:51,920
Speaker 3: just get somebody to fill the role because there really

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Speaker 3: is not It's like Clark and then it's like, I

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Speaker 3: mean June Jackson junior, just like I get it, he's

764
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Speaker 3: a four or five, but it's like Jay Huff. Not

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Speaker 3: a lot of big guys on the roster.

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Speaker 5: Yea.

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Speaker 4: They also don't have a coach yet, right they are.

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Speaker 3: Is the guy, but there's somebody's rumored that they are.

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Speaker 3: There's an assistant coach that they're exploring the possibility. I

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Speaker 3: just saw that and I'm drawing a blank on who

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Speaker 3: it was. Yeah, And it was like, oh, I thought

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Speaker 3: this was this guy's job, and I'm sure it is.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I just saw that over the weekend.

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Speaker 3: I forget what it was. It was like a player,

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Speaker 3: a former player, and we have like Jason Kidd being

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00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:29,440
Speaker 3: linked to the Knicks here. They might get permission, I

777
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Speaker 3: guess to talk to the Dallas man.

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Speaker 4: I don't have it yet.

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00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:32,200
Speaker 5: They don't have it yet.

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Speaker 4: Can we interview your coach? Cool?

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Speaker 5: Yes?

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Speaker 1: Or no.

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Speaker 3: I guess the Rockets apparently said no. The reporting is

784
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Speaker 3: like they wanted to speak to em. They're like, no,

785
00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:45,320
Speaker 3: I love, you have to get permission.

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Speaker 5: I don't know why.

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Speaker 3: It's so funny to me. All right, So that's the news.

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Speaker 3: Sort of a quiet NBA weekend, if we're being honest,

789
00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:53,959
Speaker 3: and then a bit of a blowout or a dominating victory,

790
00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:57,680
Speaker 3: but we look ahead two Game three on Wednesday. We'll

791
00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:01,080
Speaker 3: probably take tomorrow off here and no dunk flan come

792
00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:03,560
Speaker 3: back on Wednesday, get your hype for Game three and

793
00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:06,240
Speaker 3: then obviously be here to talk about it on Thursday,

794
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:08,839
Speaker 3: and then we'll probably do a weekend podcast as well,

795
00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:11,919
Speaker 3: because Game four is a Friday night and that could

796
00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:13,440
Speaker 3: be a big one. Oh yeah, that's gonna be a

797
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:15,319
Speaker 3: big one regardless. Somebody's gonna be up to one. So

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Speaker 3: does it sort of close the door on a series

799
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Speaker 3: or make things interesting? Can't wait to find out. But

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Speaker 3: what do you think about Game two last night? The Thunders'

801
00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:25,520
Speaker 3: chances to roll this thing? Have they sort of unlocked

802
00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:28,799
Speaker 3: something against Indiana or can the Pacers role players and

803
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:31,600
Speaker 3: stuff like that, and Haliburton especially aggressively from the jump,

804
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:33,120
Speaker 3: you know, shoot better.

805
00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:34,480
Speaker 5: They got to just hit their threes.

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00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:36,640
Speaker 3: They can't be even in the three point department. Cannot

807
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Speaker 3: wait these games.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so they were.

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Speaker 3: Even I think last night total makes they need like

810
00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:43,560
Speaker 3: game one where they had whatever it was, seven made

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Speaker 3: more threes or whatever it was.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, hey, we barely talked about that game fourteen very quiet.

813
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Speaker 1: Yeah, a quiet game.

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Speaker 3: But can't wait to talk about game three on Wednesday.

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Speaker 4: You heard it here first, have a great time, turn up.

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Speaker 4: Love you guys, awesome.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us. And remember Jesus was at Game

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Speaker 1: two of the NBA Finals. Now I know he's at

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Speaker 1: every Okay, see game I think anyway, So I don't

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Speaker 1: think he was celebrating Holy Spirit Sunday for the Orthodox faith,

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Speaker 1: but happy Holy Spirit Monday to everybody who celebrates today.

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Speaker 3: Do you think Jesus hangs out with the big bellied

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Speaker 3: guy that paints things on his on his chest. Do

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Speaker 3: you think they go think yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'd

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Speaker 3: like to imagine a world or they hang out.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, when there was only one set of footprints. That

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Speaker 4: was when Jesus carried paint chest

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Speaker 3: Heavy looking boy race the day people