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Speaker 1: Spring is so many wonderful things, trees, budding, flowers, blooming,

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Speaker 1: getting to wear straw hats. But for a lot of

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Speaker 1: people it also means a miserable season of allergies, and

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Speaker 1: sneezing is the poster child for allergies. Let's just admit it.

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Speaker 1: So we chose our episode on sneezing so we can

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Speaker 1: at least help you understand what the heck is going

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Speaker 1: on with your face. Even if we can't cure you,

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Speaker 1: we wish we could so seal all the doors in

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Speaker 1: the windows and kick back with this episode.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to Stuff You Should Know, a production of Iheartradios

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Speaker 2: How Stuff Works.

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Speaker 1: Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark. There's

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Speaker 1: Charles w Chuck Bryan over there. Jerry is a disembodied spirit,

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Speaker 1: but she's still with us, haunting us. And we are

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Speaker 1: now set up for achievement, which means this is stuff you.

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Speaker 3: Should know, set up for achievement. That sounds like very

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Speaker 3: eighties Reagan era campaign.

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Speaker 1: It does, It definitely does. Certainly not the kind of

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Speaker 1: thing that would irritate you, whether it be in your

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Speaker 1: nose or your brain or anywhere.

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Speaker 3: Not the best segue, huh, I'm surprised you didn't try

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Speaker 3: and work sternutation in there. Somehow.

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Speaker 1: I love that word. Were you familiar with that word before?

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Speaker 3: I don't think you know, I'm forty nine years old.

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Speaker 3: I don't think i'd ever heard sneezing being called sternutation.

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Speaker 1: I got oh, man, I just remembered. I'm forty four now,

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Speaker 1: So you got me beat. But I'm in the same

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Speaker 1: boat with you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I never heard that, But that is what if

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Speaker 3: you're a scientist. Well, if you're a scientist and you

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Speaker 3: want to be a real stuff, you probably say sternutation.

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Speaker 3: If you're a scientist that wants to be friends with people,

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Speaker 3: you'll still probably say sneezing.

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Speaker 1: And I mean, it sounds super clinical, but it's actually

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Speaker 1: really old. It's from I think the first appearance of

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Speaker 1: it is in a text from fifteen seventy six.

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Speaker 3: It sounds old to me.

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Speaker 1: It sounds clinical, but there's also a couple derivative words.

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Speaker 1: Sternutative or stern utatory are things that make you sneeze,

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Speaker 1: and Howard stern bubba buoe right chewy. So we're talking

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Speaker 1: sneezing obviously, because we just discoursed on stern neuitation imagining

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Speaker 1: an extra syllable there are and I stern mutation.

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Speaker 3: That's the Josh Clark way.

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Speaker 1: Why do I have to complicate? Why do I have

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Speaker 1: to complimicate things?

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Speaker 3: We're talking about sneezing, and sneezing is a really sort

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Speaker 3: of and I hate it when people call things like

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Speaker 3: this elegant, so I'm going to refrain. But it's just

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Speaker 3: a very efficient system that the human body has worked

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Speaker 3: out to basically allow your your nose and we'll get

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Speaker 3: into all the ins and outs of how it all happens,

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Speaker 3: but to allow your nose and your nasal passage and

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Speaker 3: out of my body. Fast.

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Speaker 1: Cut off pal like real fast, you're cut off cigarette smoke,

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Speaker 1: You're cut off Chanel number seven that nobody likes, you know. Sure,

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Speaker 1: that's uh yeah, that's a pretty pretty good way to

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Speaker 1: put it. I mean, and it's an ancient, ancient reflex too.

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Speaker 1: I mean, basically, all mammals at least sneeze some more

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Speaker 1: the most because it's part of their digestion.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and then I don't know what it's technically called,

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Speaker 3: but you know when dogs do what it's called the

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's really not a sneeze actually, because a

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Speaker 3: How it's designed with those narrow nasal passages. It's not

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Speaker 1: Yeah, sometimes it's just like no, I'm staying here, I'm

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Speaker 1: They actually like irritate some specialized cells that are in

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Speaker 1: those things get irritated, they release histamines which trigger this

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Speaker 1: and they also simultaneously start sending signals to your brain saying, hey,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And I know we talked about this a little

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Speaker 1: Right, So, and I was looking this up if you

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Speaker 1: there's actually something called an afferent phase and an efferent phase.

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Speaker 1: And an afferent phase is when you get ready to sneeze,

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Speaker 1: like your your nerves have been tickled and are triggered

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Speaker 1: And the reason why is because you're taking in a

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Speaker 3: Yeah, like you can. And I've seen professional athletes that

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Speaker 1: diaphragm is pushing that air out really violently, so that

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Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, not true. And apparently there are some people

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Speaker 3: That's just would be impossible. Plus they usually close anyway,

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Speaker 3: Well, we'll talk about my sneeze pattern later. I know

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Speaker 3: I've talked about it before, but okay, I find it fascinating.

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Speaker 1: You you accidentally tap out, drink your ovaltine and morse

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Speaker 1: Let's take a break, Chuck, and then we'll come back

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Speaker 4: Josh and Chuck shot, well, now we're on the road,

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Speaker 1: Chuck.

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Speaker 4: It's stuff you should know, all right.

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Speaker 1: Hey man, before we get back into it too far,

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Speaker 1: One of my neighbor friends, Wesley, was like, hey man,

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Speaker 3: You know, Yeah, that seems like it would be an

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Speaker 1: Know for sure, And like it kind of feels like

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Speaker 3: But you know, my neighbors think I'm unemployed. It's great.

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Speaker 3: Thanks Wes. Yeah, I leave Josh alone.

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Speaker 1: He's he's the one that we got the the love

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Speaker 3: And you're you're the pusherman.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I was like, first one's on me, the next

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I don't correct my neighbors. They think I'm down

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Speaker 3: Oh that's good stuff.

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Speaker 1: So we're back to sneezing. We're talking sneezing, and one

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Speaker 1: I guess is all like we said, involuntary.

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Speaker 1: So it makes sense that there would be a region

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Speaker 1: And it wouldn't make this guy sneeze. It would burn

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Speaker 3: That's such a bad red hut chili Pepper's joke that

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Speaker 1: That's a very grown up of you.

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Speaker 3: Should I say it?

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Speaker 1: Sure? Whoever said we were grown ups?

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Speaker 3: I was just thinking the doctor would do the capsation

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Speaker 3: I don't know. Sometimes I feel like I don't have

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Speaker 3: a partner. That's pretty good, yeah, you know, it's better

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Speaker 3: than fight like a brave. I don't know. I'm trying

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Speaker 3: to think of chili pepper songs.

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Speaker 1: What if the doctor came in wearing nothing but one

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Speaker 1: that coming? That was it?

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Speaker 3: Oh, that'd be great that you know, you got the

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you do the party dog.

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Speaker 3: So things that can make you sneeze, I know you

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Speaker 3: I wasn't joking, but those are all realities. The most

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Speaker 1: Yeah, speaking of rhinitis too, I ran across a term. This.

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Speaker 1: The clinical term for a running nose is rhyino rhea.

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Speaker 3: Gross.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, isn't that crody Like? That makes it at least

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Speaker 3: You think they would allow you to do that while

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Speaker 1: They used to up until very recently. Really, Oh yeah,

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Speaker 3: Wow. I guess if you're a smoker, that's a big perk.

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Speaker 1: It is. But then now they're like, no smoking inside,

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Speaker 3: Uh, let me see. You've also got the hormonal rhinitis,

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Speaker 1: Sure, there's a drug induced drnitis. There's certain drugs that

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Speaker 1: mushrooms will make you sneeze. Apparently I'm guessing that I

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Speaker 1: Tell me if you think it sounds convincing, those drugs

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Speaker 1: That is very sad to me if you think about it,

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Speaker 1: Like our medicine is not far enough along in my

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Speaker 1: So we've talked before, Chuck multiple times about photic sneezing,

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Speaker 3: I feel like I have, but I don't. It's not

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Speaker 1: So, Okay, I am a photic sneezer more than I'm

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Speaker 3: So how does it get you? Like, any time you

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Speaker 1: Very rarely light, it's almost always sunlight, and I think

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Speaker 3: Is that every usual pattern?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Usually and I looked into that, like why do

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Speaker 1: for it, and that's that your your brain has determined

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I actually did see some other things too about

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Speaker 3: inherit a sneeze pattern. Oh really, and that like double

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Speaker 1: It makes sense because there are like photic sneezing is

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right, photo, I'm sorry, photic sneeze reflexes passed

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Speaker 3: ones that we like so much.

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Speaker 1: Do you like this one?

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Speaker 3: I like this one. I hated the other one.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, man with a passion.

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't even I wasn't eve gonna bring that one

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Speaker 1: Okay, we'll just pass it by and let everybody wonder

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00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:05,919
Speaker 1: for the rest of their lives.

433
00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:14,560
Speaker 3: But autosomal dominant compelling helio ophthalmic outburst syndrome A CHU,

434
00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:16,760
Speaker 3: it's a little rough.

435
00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:19,560
Speaker 1: It is. I mean, there's a whole d, a whole

436
00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:22,399
Speaker 1: dominant in there that's missing. But okay, fine, we'll go

437
00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:25,480
Speaker 1: with that. But that's the that is a term for

438
00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:30,280
Speaker 1: photic sneezing that was coined at some point by someone.

439
00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:33,520
Speaker 3: That's your biggest pet peeve, right for acronyms is when

440
00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:35,280
Speaker 3: they just sneak a word in there and don't use

441
00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:35,960
Speaker 3: it for a letter.

442
00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:39,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's lazy, although I mean I get where they

443
00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:41,280
Speaker 1: were coming from. You don't want to be ad chew.

444
00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:44,879
Speaker 1: It's like why even why even do it? But but

445
00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:47,879
Speaker 1: you gotta figure it out, you know, I mean, just

446
00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:51,120
Speaker 1: take dominant out, just go with autosomal, you.

447
00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:52,800
Speaker 3: Know, Yeah, no, wouldn't who would know?

448
00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:59,000
Speaker 1: I wouldn't have noticed. So you were saying, was that

449
00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:00,840
Speaker 1: it for the patterns sneezing patterns.

450
00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:03,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean they're just a couple of theories, either

451
00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:06,320
Speaker 3: hereditary or that it just takes that much. But I'm

452
00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:08,119
Speaker 3: not sure. I just don't know if I buy that

453
00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:11,800
Speaker 3: for myself, because it's always threes and it's not like

454
00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:15,520
Speaker 3: I have a weak sneeze, so it takes three. I

455
00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:18,000
Speaker 3: don't know. It feels ingrained somehow.

456
00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:21,199
Speaker 1: Yeah, like if you only do two, you notice, and

457
00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:22,600
Speaker 1: it does it feel incomplete.

458
00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:27,199
Speaker 3: It does, but that almost never happens. Occasionally I'll do

459
00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:32,080
Speaker 3: a forebanger, but I don't know that I ever sneeze

460
00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:33,760
Speaker 3: once or twice. It's almost always three.

461
00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:38,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, And speaking of incomplete, if you actually go, if

462
00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:42,800
Speaker 1: you experience the afferent phase, but the efferent phase isn't triggered,

463
00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:47,639
Speaker 1: but it's enough to drive you nuts, there's things you

464
00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:49,879
Speaker 1: can do. And one of those things that's recommended is

465
00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:51,879
Speaker 1: to look at a bright light or look kind of

466
00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:55,560
Speaker 1: don't look directly at the sun, but look toward the sun,

467
00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:59,639
Speaker 1: and that should help jumpstart that efferent phase. The second

468
00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:01,919
Speaker 1: part where the actual sneeze takes place.

469
00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:03,840
Speaker 3: Oh okay, that makes sense.

470
00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:06,600
Speaker 1: But they think what's going on is that there's a

471
00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:12,359
Speaker 1: crossover between the sneeze reflex arc and the pupillary light

472
00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:19,200
Speaker 1: reflex arc, which basically is one nerve becoming so stimulated

473
00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:25,399
Speaker 1: that it stimulates by proxy. Yeah, the other nerve, the

474
00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:28,480
Speaker 1: sneeze nerve. So you're getting so overloaded with bright light

475
00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:32,080
Speaker 1: when you see that sunlight that it accidentally jumps on

476
00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:35,120
Speaker 1: over to your sneeze reflex as well and makes you sneeze.

477
00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:36,480
Speaker 3: It's like, are you getting all this light?

478
00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:38,400
Speaker 1: Are you getting get a load of this?

479
00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:43,720
Speaker 3: And I think they've landed on about between twenty three

480
00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:48,960
Speaker 3: and generally of people have this photic sneeze reflex.

481
00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:52,040
Speaker 1: Right, So that's I mean, that's pretty substantial. There are

482
00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:56,600
Speaker 1: some other small identity groups of sneezers that are far

483
00:25:56,800 --> 00:26:03,200
Speaker 1: smaller than that. Apparently there are people who there's four families,

484
00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:07,200
Speaker 1: not one in four people, four families, as far as

485
00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:13,400
Speaker 1: anyone knows, who have something called natiation, which is where

486
00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:16,200
Speaker 1: you if they eat too much and they feel overly full,

487
00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:18,159
Speaker 1: it will trigger a sneezing attack.

488
00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:20,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would call that rare.

489
00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:24,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, four families for sure, and we're just going to

490
00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:26,120
Speaker 1: pass right on by right chuck.

491
00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:31,440
Speaker 3: Yes, okay, that acronym getting back to the photic sneezing though,

492
00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:35,080
Speaker 3: they think it also could be a holdover and an

493
00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:39,200
Speaker 3: evolutionary advantage from when we were little babies. Because little

494
00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:42,120
Speaker 3: babies don't have they can't blow their nose. They don't

495
00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:46,320
Speaker 3: know what that even is. So the only they can't

496
00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:50,760
Speaker 3: pick their nose, they can't they can't use any implement

497
00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:53,600
Speaker 3: at all to clear out their nose except the sneeze.

498
00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:55,680
Speaker 3: They rely on the sneeze to get that mucus out,

499
00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:58,560
Speaker 3: or of course parents who will suck that stuff out

500
00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:03,600
Speaker 3: through a little device yeah, which is no fun but necessary.

501
00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:05,880
Speaker 1: Or you hold them on their side and you blow

502
00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:09,879
Speaker 1: in their ear. It usually clears out thanenos. But I

503
00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:12,960
Speaker 1: should probably just go ahead and say, yeah, don't do that.

504
00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:13,760
Speaker 1: That was a joke.

505
00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:18,400
Speaker 3: You can whisper sweet nothings, sure, but don't Yeah, don't

506
00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:22,000
Speaker 3: do that. But babies are pretty sensitive to that photoic

507
00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:24,119
Speaker 3: light reflex, and they think that may be a reason

508
00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:28,080
Speaker 3: that basically we that's just sort of a holdover from

509
00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:29,080
Speaker 3: when we were babies.

510
00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:31,280
Speaker 1: It makes sense. It also makes sense to me that

511
00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:35,879
Speaker 1: babies might have more active or kind of raw or

512
00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:40,440
Speaker 1: nerve pathways, So maybe they're just more sensitive to that

513
00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:45,399
Speaker 1: jump over that crossover. Maybe plucking nose hair has that

514
00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:48,560
Speaker 1: ever happened to you every time? So it doesn't make

515
00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:51,120
Speaker 1: me sneeze, but it makes my eyes water like I've

516
00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:55,920
Speaker 1: just seen every long distance commercial from the nineties all

517
00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:56,480
Speaker 1: at once.

518
00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:00,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, And it's interesting because those you talked earlier about

519
00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:04,520
Speaker 3: the trigeminal nerves that are all through the face. I

520
00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:07,120
Speaker 3: think it's just all related. Like you pluck, you could

521
00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:10,439
Speaker 3: pluck an eyebrow and it could make you sneeze and

522
00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:12,760
Speaker 3: your eyes are watering, and that's part of your face. Like,

523
00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:17,080
Speaker 3: it's just all sort of one big nerve bundle that's

524
00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:19,720
Speaker 3: all interrelated, and it could any of those could trigger

525
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:23,359
Speaker 3: either watering of eyes or or definitely sneezing. Even if

526
00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:25,199
Speaker 3: you'd like pluck a hair out of your head, that

527
00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:25,719
Speaker 3: could do it.

528
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:29,199
Speaker 1: That's never happened to me. But my nose hair and

529
00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:32,800
Speaker 1: my eyebrow hair, oh man, my eyes will start watering.

530
00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:34,760
Speaker 1: It's not a pleasant experience, for sure.

531
00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:36,400
Speaker 3: I've never plucked an eyebrow hair.

532
00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:40,840
Speaker 1: Oh, every once in a while I'll get one that's

533
00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:44,080
Speaker 1: a big, fat, long goat hair. It just suddenly comes

534
00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:44,840
Speaker 1: up overnight.

535
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:46,520
Speaker 3: No, I've seen I've got those two.

536
00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:48,240
Speaker 1: Okay, well I pluck those.

537
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:49,200
Speaker 3: I just trim those.

538
00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:52,600
Speaker 1: You know, it's maybe I should trim them. That's a

539
00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:56,680
Speaker 1: good idea. But have you ever noticed if you get

540
00:28:56,680 --> 00:29:00,680
Speaker 1: one and there's almost invariably one on the other, like

541
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:02,760
Speaker 1: they come up in pairs. Does that happen to you?

542
00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:05,160
Speaker 3: I have not noticed that. When you pull on one,

543
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:12,040
Speaker 3: does the other one get shorter? That was wonderful, that'd

544
00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:12,440
Speaker 3: be great.

545
00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:15,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like pulling that spaghetti through your nose and

546
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:15,760
Speaker 1: out of your mouth.

547
00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:19,480
Speaker 3: Don't do that either, Can you do that? No, I've

548
00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:20,160
Speaker 3: never tried to do so.

549
00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:23,720
Speaker 1: I've never tried either. I don't want to. There's also

550
00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:26,960
Speaker 1: a group of people who sneeze when they become sexually aroused.

551
00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:31,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a thing apparently, or if you orgasm, like

552
00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:33,440
Speaker 3: after you orgasm, it could trigger a sneezing fit.

553
00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:38,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's apparently a bigger group than you would expect.

554
00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:42,120
Speaker 1: Some researcher went around to internet chat rooms and said, hey,

555
00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:44,680
Speaker 1: does anybody sneeze when they become aroused or when they

556
00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:48,640
Speaker 1: have an orgasm? And she found seventeen people who sneeze

557
00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:52,080
Speaker 1: from sexual ideation. And three, who sneeze from orgasm? Which

558
00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:54,680
Speaker 1: is that is way more than I would expect from

559
00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:57,720
Speaker 1: just going around on internet chatrooms and asking people, you know.

560
00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:01,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, and also we should point out way not scientific.

561
00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:05,080
Speaker 1: No, not at all, but yeah, anecdotally, it's still impressive.

562
00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:08,840
Speaker 1: But I read an explanation for this. It's a terrible explanation,

563
00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:13,000
Speaker 1: but it's an explanation by the Journal of the Association

564
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:19,240
Speaker 1: of Physicians of India. It's an Indian journal. Coincidentally enough.

565
00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:24,440
Speaker 1: They suggest that it's because the nose contains a rectile tissue,

566
00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:27,920
Speaker 1: which it does, which a rectile tissue is just tissue

567
00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:31,920
Speaker 1: that can become larger and gorged by blood flow. And yes,

568
00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:36,600
Speaker 1: you have a rectile tissue in your genitalia, Yes you

569
00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:39,960
Speaker 1: have it in your nose, but they're not in any

570
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:43,320
Speaker 1: way related as far as anyone's ever even thought, aside

571
00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:46,160
Speaker 1: from the people in this journal. And that the most

572
00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:47,480
Speaker 1: bizarre thing you've ever heard.

573
00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:48,520
Speaker 3: It's pretty bizarre.

574
00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:52,640
Speaker 1: Like your nose is becoming aroused, is basically what they're saying.

575
00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:56,400
Speaker 1: And so you sneeze, Yeah, fantastic.

576
00:30:57,200 --> 00:31:01,920
Speaker 3: There's also intractable sneezing or psychogen and that is something

577
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:08,320
Speaker 3: that's almost exclusive to young women, girls, adolescents basically going

578
00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:12,000
Speaker 3: through puberty. And these are girls who may not suffer

579
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:14,200
Speaker 3: from allergies, They are not sick with a cold or anything,

580
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:17,520
Speaker 3: but can go on these big sneezing binges for days

581
00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:18,400
Speaker 3: and days at a time.

582
00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:25,360
Speaker 1: Yes, and apparently the world, the world, oh my goodness.

583
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:29,000
Speaker 1: The world record holder is a girl named Donna Griffiths,

584
00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:32,680
Speaker 1: who was twelve when she started. She started in nineteen

585
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:35,680
Speaker 1: eighty one January of nineteen eighty one, and her sneezing

586
00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:39,400
Speaker 1: fit ended nine hundred and seventy seven days later in

587
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:41,000
Speaker 1: September of nineteen eighty three.

588
00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:42,680
Speaker 3: I remember hearing about this one.

589
00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:45,280
Speaker 1: And as it I mean as it went on, I

590
00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:47,680
Speaker 1: was way too young for this. But you know, had

591
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:50,080
Speaker 1: had I been more aware, I would have felt very

592
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:53,440
Speaker 1: bad for this girl, because as it went on she

593
00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:56,640
Speaker 1: could if she sneezed once in a day, it was

594
00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:59,080
Speaker 1: considered part of the record. And I think that that

595
00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:01,360
Speaker 1: was kind of how it was towards the end. But

596
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:04,600
Speaker 1: that first year sounds like a bear yeah, no good.

597
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:07,960
Speaker 1: A million sneezes in the first three hundred and sixty

598
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:11,440
Speaker 1: five days, which is basically a sneeze a minute on average,

599
00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:15,760
Speaker 1: and Chuck ann it's impossible to sneeze in your sleep.

600
00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:18,680
Speaker 1: You cannot sneeze in your sleep. If you sneeze while

601
00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:21,920
Speaker 1: you're sleeping, you wake up to sneeze. Your brain just

602
00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:24,960
Speaker 1: isn't functioning correctly to sneeze while you're sleeping. So that

603
00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:29,360
Speaker 1: means this girl was averaging a sneeze a minute just

604
00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:32,640
Speaker 1: during waking hours, but sneeze a minute over twenty four

605
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:35,040
Speaker 1: hours compressed into say ten or twelve hours that she

606
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:36,080
Speaker 1: was awake that day.

607
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:38,840
Speaker 3: Or would she wake herself up sneezing.

608
00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:42,000
Speaker 1: I don't know. If that's the case, then she had

609
00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:45,080
Speaker 1: a really, really rough year because she was sneezing every

610
00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:47,200
Speaker 1: minute and not getting any sleep.

611
00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:49,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, it's disruptive no matter what, no one.

612
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:52,040
Speaker 3: I mean, you can't hold on a job if you're

613
00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:53,080
Speaker 3: sneezing every minute.

614
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:55,440
Speaker 1: Well, luckily she was twelve, and this is after child

615
00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:58,160
Speaker 1: labor laws were passed. I'm hoping she did out of

616
00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:03,160
Speaker 1: cigarette factory, right, she has nimble little fingers for sorting cigarette.

617
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:05,560
Speaker 3: Perfect. Should we take another break?

618
00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:06,400
Speaker 1: Yeah? I think so.

619
00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:09,240
Speaker 3: All right, we'll talk about these the travel and droplets

620
00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:10,680
Speaker 3: right after this great band.

621
00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:19,160
Speaker 1: Josh and shot shot.

622
00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:29,360
Speaker 4: Well, now we're on the road, driving in your truck.

623
00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:32,440
Speaker 4: I want to learn a thing or two from Josh

624
00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:33,240
Speaker 4: camp Chuck.

625
00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:42,400
Speaker 3: It's stuff you should know, all right, all right, so

626
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:45,600
Speaker 3: this is pretty relevant now. And I know and I

627
00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:47,960
Speaker 3: think this was put together before. I feel like we've

628
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:51,360
Speaker 3: been sitting on this one. Was this before coronavirus? No?

629
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:52,440
Speaker 1: I think it was daring?

630
00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:53,280
Speaker 3: Was it during? Okay?

631
00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:55,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, and this is a Dave helped us out. Dave's

632
00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:56,960
Speaker 1: helped us out with this one.

633
00:33:57,080 --> 00:33:59,360
Speaker 3: Yeah. So uh and I think we've all seen these

634
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:02,560
Speaker 3: videos by now with everything that's going on. But in

635
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:06,560
Speaker 3: two twenty sixteen, and a researcher from MIT named Lydia,

636
00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:15,080
Speaker 3: Oh boy, goodness me Barubia, Sure, Bariba.

637
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:21,040
Speaker 1: I'm going with Rubaba. There's a couple of the oh

638
00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:23,279
Speaker 1: sounds in there that follow one another. It makes it

639
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:23,920
Speaker 1: very difficult.

640
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:26,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, whenever you pack three vowels in a row, it's

641
00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:31,600
Speaker 3: always sort of a dealer's choice. So she published some

642
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:37,359
Speaker 3: slow mo two thousand frame per second film images of

643
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:41,239
Speaker 3: people sneezing and what that look like. That's where we

644
00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:43,960
Speaker 3: get and other people have done this too, and measured

645
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:46,120
Speaker 3: the sneeze but that's one place where we get the one

646
00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:47,320
Speaker 3: hundred miles per hour.

647
00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:49,360
Speaker 1: Stat oh from that study.

648
00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:52,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, and other places. I mean, that's pretty common knowledge now.

649
00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:56,759
Speaker 3: But up to twenty five thirty feet you can blow

650
00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:59,239
Speaker 3: a sneeze. It can stay suspended in the air for

651
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:01,880
Speaker 3: a few minutes. And they likened it too if you

652
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:04,719
Speaker 3: would take a bucket of paint and just throw the

653
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:08,879
Speaker 3: paint out out of the can into the airy sort

654
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:10,960
Speaker 3: of as how a sneeze works. It's just they call

655
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:14,200
Speaker 3: it sheets of fluids, and you know, you got these big,

656
00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:18,160
Speaker 3: big hunks of mucus and saliva that just sort of

657
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:21,759
Speaker 3: come out together and then break apart little by little

658
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:24,160
Speaker 3: until you get to the fine mist that sort of

659
00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:24,919
Speaker 3: can hang in the air.

660
00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:27,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, it starts as a clump and then turns into

661
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:31,319
Speaker 1: ropey filaments and then into increasingly smaller particles, and those

662
00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:33,680
Speaker 1: really small particles that aerosolize stuff.

663
00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:34,720
Speaker 3: That's the scary stuff.

664
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:37,320
Speaker 1: I saw a Bristol study that said, and this wasn't

665
00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:41,040
Speaker 1: necessarily coronavirus, but that contagious germs can stay in the air,

666
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:45,040
Speaker 1: suspended in the air for weeks. Possibly that would have

667
00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:48,680
Speaker 1: to be a very hearty contagious virus or bacteria.

668
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:51,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, with like an air flow, right, Yeah.

669
00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:56,439
Speaker 1: To just sit there. But the twenty seven feet which

670
00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:59,120
Speaker 1: is kind of common knowledge these days, in the air

671
00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:03,640
Speaker 1: of coronavirus, your sneeze can project those particles up to

672
00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:07,719
Speaker 1: like twenty seven feet. There's little pockets of gas and

673
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:11,200
Speaker 1: turbulence that are in a room, even a room that

674
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:14,600
Speaker 1: seems still but certainly one that has like the ac

675
00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:17,920
Speaker 1: on or air flowing through it, and those little particles

676
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:21,319
Speaker 1: can hitch rides on those pockets and travel I saw

677
00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:24,880
Speaker 1: two hundred times further than you expel them with just

678
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:29,480
Speaker 1: your sneeze. Yeah, so you know what prevents that, covering

679
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:32,600
Speaker 1: yourself your mouth and your nose when you sneeze, and

680
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:33,640
Speaker 1: or wearing a mask.

681
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:39,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean they teach I mean, this has nothing

682
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:42,319
Speaker 3: to do with coronavirus, but it's especially important. But they

683
00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:44,640
Speaker 3: teach little kids from the moment they can even understand

684
00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:48,799
Speaker 3: things in preschool to always sneeze into your elbow and

685
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:51,319
Speaker 3: cough into your elbow because that's something that kids can

686
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:54,160
Speaker 3: you know, you can't always get to a tissue, right,

687
00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:56,000
Speaker 3: which is what they say is sort of the best

688
00:36:56,000 --> 00:37:00,640
Speaker 3: thing to do. But that elbow is pretty good, good system.

689
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:03,040
Speaker 1: I think it's really cute to see a little kid

690
00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:03,840
Speaker 1: do that too.

691
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:06,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, because they're doing the right thing. It's it's uh,

692
00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:08,520
Speaker 3: it is adorable, I agree.

693
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:12,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, but yeah. The the ideal is to to sneeze

694
00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:16,440
Speaker 1: into a tissue, throw your tissue away, and wash your

695
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:18,600
Speaker 1: hands thoroughly. That's what you're supposed to do after you

696
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:21,240
Speaker 1: sneeze every time, every single time.

697
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:23,160
Speaker 3: Every single time. And I don't sneeze a lot. Emily

698
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:26,600
Speaker 3: sneezes a lot. Oh yeah, yeah, because she's got the allergies.

699
00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, so she's.

700
00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:32,760
Speaker 3: Got a lifelong, persistent tickle in her nose. It's terrible.

701
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:37,240
Speaker 1: Does she have what's it called that kind of sneezing

702
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:40,760
Speaker 1: where it's a psychogenic, intractable sneezing.

703
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:43,720
Speaker 3: Well, no, because she's not. She's not thirteen.

704
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:46,239
Speaker 1: Man.

705
00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:50,160
Speaker 3: No, it's just allergy related. But lots of sneezing. Uh.

706
00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:53,040
Speaker 3: When it's when it's really bad, it's it's it's pretty

707
00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:55,520
Speaker 3: tough to be around, not to not tough for me,

708
00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:56,000
Speaker 3: but you.

709
00:37:55,960 --> 00:38:02,279
Speaker 1: Know, right right, yeah, it's really stop. So I did

710
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:05,000
Speaker 1: look up to find out where we stood as far

711
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:11,120
Speaker 1: as knowledge on sneezing and contagion outdoors goes and from

712
00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:13,400
Speaker 1: what I can tell, there was some study that was

713
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:17,200
Speaker 1: done by some engineers that sprayed an aerosol can running

714
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:20,520
Speaker 1: walking and then on a bike, and the results showed

715
00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:23,880
Speaker 1: that this stuff spreads really far and wide, but they

716
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:26,719
Speaker 1: didn't take into account a lot of different things, a

717
00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:29,839
Speaker 1: lot of different factors, so that if you are outdoors,

718
00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:33,640
Speaker 1: as long as somebody doesn't sneeze at you basically in

719
00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:37,120
Speaker 1: your face or in your direction within you know, twenty

720
00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:41,479
Speaker 1: or thirty feet directly towards you, you're probably not going

721
00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:45,080
Speaker 1: to catch enough of a viral load of something like

722
00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:48,920
Speaker 1: coronavirus to become sick from it, especially if you're not

723
00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:51,799
Speaker 1: in a crowded group. If you're just walking outside and

724
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:54,520
Speaker 1: somebody else is walking, you know, fifteen feet ahead of

725
00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:56,399
Speaker 1: you and they're just breathing, and they're on the other

726
00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:59,080
Speaker 1: side of the street, you're probably going to be fine,

727
00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:02,440
Speaker 1: just because that's stuff. It's gonna dissipate so much because

728
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:06,400
Speaker 1: of all the factors, the environmental factors that exist outdoors

729
00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:10,800
Speaker 1: rather as opposed to indoors. Indoors is a totally different ballgame. Outdoors,

730
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:12,520
Speaker 1: you're much safer.

731
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:15,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I haven't. I haven't been around a

732
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:18,719
Speaker 3: human that sneezed aside from my wife in you know,

733
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:21,799
Speaker 3: four or five months. Great, like I would, even when

734
00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:24,400
Speaker 3: I've gone to the store and like I'm on the

735
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:27,640
Speaker 3: lookout for that stuff. Oh yeah, and like I think

736
00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:30,440
Speaker 3: we all are. But I haven't even been in a store,

737
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:32,640
Speaker 3: like on an aisle where someone's like sneezed, because I

738
00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:37,520
Speaker 3: would and probably unreasonably, you know, freak out a little bit.

739
00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:40,160
Speaker 1: Sure, I think you're allowed to yell at that.

740
00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:43,880
Speaker 3: Person, but I haven't even seen anyone been around anyone

741
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:47,360
Speaker 3: that sneezed. Yeah, so that's been a comfort.

742
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:49,799
Speaker 1: Yeah. You me went to the store and came back

743
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:52,080
Speaker 1: and said, somebody sneezed twice, and the whole store just

744
00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:53,839
Speaker 1: started looking around like where they come from.

745
00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:55,160
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it's weird. Huh.

746
00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:58,080
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, there's basically like a stampede or something to

747
00:39:58,120 --> 00:40:01,080
Speaker 1: get away from that thing. It's it's a weird, weird

748
00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:02,799
Speaker 1: time to be alive. We're all going to be very

749
00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:06,760
Speaker 1: very weird even after things go back to normal. I think, yeah,

750
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:07,520
Speaker 1: you know.

751
00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:09,120
Speaker 3: It's gonna I know I will be.

752
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:10,440
Speaker 1: Yeah.

753
00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:13,319
Speaker 3: So should we talk a little bit about culture and

754
00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:17,760
Speaker 3: you know, sort of what people say all around the world.

755
00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:20,480
Speaker 3: I know here in America it's sort of customed to

756
00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:23,799
Speaker 3: say God bless you or bless you and that. You know,

757
00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:27,440
Speaker 3: there's some different explanations, but one of them that seems

758
00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:29,600
Speaker 3: to hold water I think dates back to the Middle

759
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:35,280
Speaker 3: Ages with the Black Plague, when Pope Gregory seven basically said, hey, everyone,

760
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:38,120
Speaker 3: you know things are pretty bad. We should just we

761
00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:41,920
Speaker 3: should say God bless you if someone is sneezing because

762
00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:43,200
Speaker 3: they might be dying.

763
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:46,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, which is a from what I saw, a big

764
00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:51,759
Speaker 1: departure from earlier Christian teachings, which taught people to just

765
00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:55,840
Speaker 1: totally ignore sneezes or say God is dead, which I write,

766
00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:58,600
Speaker 1: which I find very weird, like why would you teach

767
00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:01,360
Speaker 1: people to ignore sneeze I didn't get that. But I

768
00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:05,840
Speaker 1: found this really awesome article called Romance and Tragedy of

769
00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:10,080
Speaker 1: Sneezing by doctor Wilson D. Wallace in Scientific Monthly from

770
00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:14,000
Speaker 1: nineteen nineteen, and he cited that that earlier Christians were

771
00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:15,880
Speaker 1: like just ignored, just pretend it didn't happen.

772
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:21,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm a I'm a bless you guy. I don't

773
00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:25,520
Speaker 3: do the gazoon tite or salute which is Spanish to

774
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:26,839
Speaker 3: your health, that kind of thing.

775
00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:28,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's also a toast.

776
00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:32,560
Speaker 3: Yeah I say that. I don't say that ever. Really.

777
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:35,560
Speaker 3: Sometimes I'll say it when I toast, but it's been

778
00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:36,880
Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't remember what I do to

779
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:41,200
Speaker 3: it with anyone anymore. You know, I forgot to deal

780
00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:41,640
Speaker 3: with people.

781
00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:44,640
Speaker 1: I always will raise my glass and say it's time

782
00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:46,279
Speaker 1: to get toe up from the flow up.

783
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:49,319
Speaker 3: I say, made Jupiter bless you.

784
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:51,719
Speaker 1: Right. I saw another one from the Greeks. Two. I

785
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:55,560
Speaker 1: love that one. Live zeus, preserve you.

786
00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:59,880
Speaker 3: I think you and I should bring back both of those. Okay,

787
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:01,080
Speaker 3: that's fantastic.

788
00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:03,440
Speaker 1: Can't you imagine everyone in Greece just like being like,

789
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:06,120
Speaker 1: don't sneeze, don't sneeze. Just everyone's all twitchy and shaky

790
00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:07,600
Speaker 1: from people yelling that at them.

791
00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:11,960
Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean it's weird too because it's a it's

792
00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:14,439
Speaker 3: a very kind thing to do to a stranger. It's uh,

793
00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:17,680
Speaker 3: this one, I guess Dave just says an academic. But

794
00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:21,279
Speaker 3: they called it a micro affection, which is nice. You know.

795
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:24,319
Speaker 3: It's just a little quick, nice thing to say to

796
00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:27,480
Speaker 3: a stranger. If and I'll always do it. We've we've

797
00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:30,480
Speaker 3: done it during our live shows. When someone sneezes, it's

798
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:32,799
Speaker 3: and not to be funny, it gets a laugh, but

799
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:35,480
Speaker 3: it's just sort of a it's almost like an involuntary

800
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:39,480
Speaker 3: micro affection, I think for most you know, non monsters

801
00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:40,640
Speaker 3: for sure.

802
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:43,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, where people just kind of have a brief connection,

803
00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:45,120
Speaker 1: right yeah, and unless you know, they don't know each other.

804
00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:47,680
Speaker 1: But now it's like human being. You're a human being.

805
00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:48,319
Speaker 1: What is it now?

806
00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:51,719
Speaker 3: Well, just bless you and get pleased, get very far

807
00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:53,400
Speaker 3: away from me again.

808
00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:57,840
Speaker 1: Bless you over there. So there's also a very common

809
00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:01,560
Speaker 1: understanding that people thought that a demon was trying to

810
00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:03,799
Speaker 1: get in or your soul was trying to get out.

811
00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:07,560
Speaker 1: And I kept seeing like other cultures or old ancient

812
00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:09,759
Speaker 1: cultures that kind of thing. The closest one I could

813
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:14,160
Speaker 1: find that seemed like that was in Persia. Zoro Asters

814
00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:18,200
Speaker 1: believed that your body was fighting off a fiend that

815
00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:21,279
Speaker 1: had invaded, like an invading demon or spirit, and that

816
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:24,600
Speaker 1: a sneeze was basically your body signaling that it had

817
00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:28,719
Speaker 1: been victorious in fighting this fiend and getting this fiend out,

818
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:32,200
Speaker 1: and that deserved a prayer, and that if you overheard

819
00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:34,880
Speaker 1: somebody sneeze, you would say the same prayer with them.

820
00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:36,200
Speaker 1: I couldn't find what prayer though.

821
00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:38,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, it seems to be a good luck thing, and

822
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:42,320
Speaker 3: a lot of cultures throughout the years, according to the Talmud,

823
00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:44,160
Speaker 3: it's a good omen if you sneeze when you're praying.

824
00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:49,640
Speaker 3: In China and Japan, if you sneeze, it means someone's

825
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:52,600
Speaker 3: sort of like your ears are burning, someone's talking about you. Yeah,

826
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:56,520
Speaker 3: and one sneeze means they're saying nice things. Two means

827
00:43:56,560 --> 00:43:59,480
Speaker 3: their spreading gossip. I don't know what they would think

828
00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:03,120
Speaker 3: about me with my three. Three means you die?

829
00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:05,640
Speaker 1: Right? What would three mean?

830
00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:08,399
Speaker 3: I don't know. I mean, because there's only two ways

831
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:09,319
Speaker 3: people can talk about you.

832
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:12,879
Speaker 1: Right exactly. They might be saying something like Chuck has

833
00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:17,600
Speaker 1: a beard. Okay, you know, it's as neutral as it gets, exactly.

834
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:23,680
Speaker 1: So there's there's folklore, and then there's what we think

835
00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:26,600
Speaker 1: as true, which is a kind of folklore, but it's

836
00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:30,319
Speaker 1: actually it's just folklore too. Urban legends is what we

837
00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:32,279
Speaker 1: call them. R old wives tales. And we talked about

838
00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:35,200
Speaker 1: one where that your your eyes will pop out of

839
00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:37,480
Speaker 1: your head if you sneeze with your eyes open. We

840
00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:39,560
Speaker 1: debunk that one pretty clearly. I think, don't.

841
00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:40,520
Speaker 3: You can't do it.

842
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:45,120
Speaker 1: And then there's some other ones too. There's one that

843
00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:46,920
Speaker 1: you me told me about that I had no idea

844
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:51,160
Speaker 1: until she said this. But apparently some people believe that

845
00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:55,080
Speaker 1: you basically die for a second while you're sneezing, like

846
00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:57,799
Speaker 1: your body just shuts down, including your heart, and that

847
00:44:57,840 --> 00:45:01,360
Speaker 1: you're technically dead for that half second while the sneeze

848
00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:01,799
Speaker 1: is going on.

849
00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:03,680
Speaker 3: I've heard stops it.

850
00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:06,680
Speaker 1: I had never heard that before until a couple days ago,

851
00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:09,680
Speaker 1: and yeah, I looked it up and it's a thing.

852
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:12,040
Speaker 1: But no, it's that's not at all true. Like your

853
00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:16,000
Speaker 1: heart rhythm might actually change and the volume of blood

854
00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:18,960
Speaker 1: and your heart might decrease or increase because of the

855
00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:22,880
Speaker 1: pressure of the air in your chest or the release

856
00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:25,880
Speaker 1: of pressure, but the electrical activity remains the same, and

857
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:28,080
Speaker 1: that's the key to whether your heart's you know, alive

858
00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:28,400
Speaker 1: or not.

859
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:33,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, your heart does not stop. No, that's like playground.

860
00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:35,239
Speaker 1: Stuff, it is. I thought it was very cute. Yeah,

861
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:38,600
Speaker 1: what about sneezing after sex preventing pregnancy? Did you see

862
00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:39,320
Speaker 1: this one?

863
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Speaker 3: Well, I mean, what are you sneezing out of?

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Speaker 1: Right? So I mean that like that's the idea that

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Speaker 1: if you sneeze, you're expelling well there's really no other

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Speaker 1: way to put its seeman, and that that would keep

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Speaker 1: you from getting pregnant. Wow, it seems a little rediict. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's another playground thing, I guess. So what playground have

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Speaker 1: you been hanging out to me?

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Speaker 3: Pretty advanced playground activity.

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Speaker 1: You got anything else? Oh, I've got one more thing, chuck,

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Speaker 1: you got anything else?

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Speaker 3: I got nothing else.

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Speaker 1: In twenty sixteen or eighteen, a man in Lester in

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Speaker 1: the UK ruptured his throat from trying to stifle a sneeze.

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Speaker 1: The pressure was so great it broke open his throat.

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Speaker 3: Wow.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, internally he didn't break through the skin, but his

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Speaker 1: intern his throat internally was rupturing.

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Speaker 3: Because that's what I pictured right, like a throat explosion.

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Speaker 1: It just blew his head completely off, like that guy

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Speaker 1: in Scanners. Well, I guess that's it for sneezing everybody.

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Speaker 1: I hope you enjoyed it. Thanks again to Wes for

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Speaker 1: the idea. And since I said that, it's time for

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Speaker 1: listener mail.

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Speaker 3: We call this Atlanta, Texas. Hey, guys, name's Ben Lee,

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Speaker 3: local Atlanta, Georgia, and my wife and are a huge

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Speaker 3: longtime fans. In your recent episode on Pirate Radio, y'all

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Speaker 3: briefly brought up Radio Atlanta, which was named after Atlanta, Texas,

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Speaker 3: and you joke that no one knew that town exists,

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Speaker 3: even the people that live there. And that's pretty much true.

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Speaker 3: My family is originally from Atlanta, Texas. It's pretty small,

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Speaker 3: just about five thousand residents, so it's totally understandable. I

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Speaker 3: was born in Texasarcana, Texas, not too far from there,

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Speaker 3: which is basically famous for being in the Smoking in

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Speaker 3: the Bandit movie.

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Speaker 1: I thought that was the town that dreaded sundown too,

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Speaker 1: wasn't it.

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Speaker 3: I don't know about that. I definitely remember from Smoking

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Speaker 3: the Bandit, okay, because they were driving that beer from

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Speaker 3: Texarcana to Atlanta. Oh and Benjamin here says, I don't

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Speaker 3: know why they didn't do Atlanta to Atlanta. Wasted opportunity,

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Speaker 3: it really is.

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Speaker 1: It sounds like Benjamin moved from Atlanta to Atlanta, though,

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Speaker 1: huh maybe kind of.

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Speaker 3: I mean he's in Atlanta, right. He teaches at Georgia State.

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Speaker 1: That's pretty awesome. Hey, hats off to you for teaching

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Speaker 1: these days, Benjamin.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he says, there's a lot of towns in Texas

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Speaker 3: though name that are also Georgian names. There's in Athens, Texas,

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Speaker 3: at Douglasville, a Columbus, Dallas, Georgia, and Texas. And he

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Speaker 3: said there's even a Georgia, Texas.

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Speaker 1: Well, that's just confusing.

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Speaker 3: And he said, thanks for all the great stuff, and

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Speaker 3: that is from Benjamin boden Lee.

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Speaker 1: Thanks a lot, Benjamin boden Lee. That was a great email.

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