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Speaker 1: I am Lauren Hogan. It's going to be that kind
Speaker 1: of day today, and I am completely free. I haven't
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Speaker 1: Happy Monday, ladies, and gentlemen, everything looks good, smell good,
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Speaker 1: Hello flame Man's welcome to Laughing high Lord. How was
Speaker 1: your week? My week was good, very busy, but you know,
Speaker 1: busy is good. How was yours? I'm here interesting, interesting weekend,
Speaker 1: the news. We got a lot going on. It's our
Speaker 1: partner here, Nick Smith. I think so, and I think
Speaker 1: we also have an announcement for everybody as well. We do.
Speaker 1: So we had a meeting Friday with My Heart and
Speaker 1: the Black Effect Network, and so they feel like it
Speaker 1: would be more conducive for us to drop the video
Speaker 1: component on Friday night now as opposed to Wednesday night.
Speaker 1: So from now on we will be dropping live at
Speaker 1: Friday at midnight, but the audio will still be on
Speaker 1: I Heart, Apple, Spotify, Amazon or wherever you listen to
Speaker 1: your podcast that on Wednesday night midnight. So listen to
Speaker 1: it and then get the chance to see what I
Speaker 1: look like on Fred. You got the whole weekend to
Speaker 1: lust stepped up after Laurence. Remember I told you I
Speaker 1: was Lauren. Good morning, good afternoon, good evening. Nick Good afternoon.
Speaker 1: I heard the announcement, and that is good news for
Speaker 1: all of our viewers who have been wanting to see
Speaker 1: the show. And uh, did you tell them the reason
Speaker 1: behind that plane? Because you talked about the move, but
Speaker 1: did you tell them why that's actually we already talking
Speaker 1: about that. It's a benefit, it's an US We're gonna
Speaker 1: all make more money. So should I say it like that?
Speaker 1: Should I tell them that? I think we We just
Speaker 1: had some We have some breaking news that happened a
Speaker 1: few minutes ago over the wire while I was doing
Speaker 1: my day job, and that is the number of people
Speaker 1: enrolling in the expansion of Obamacare. It looks like there
Speaker 1: are several people, particularly from red states, that are just
Speaker 1: jumping on board. Uh, this was not expected. This was
Speaker 1: not part of the Biden administration's whole focus as much
Speaker 1: as just making it available to everyone. But it looks like, um,
Speaker 1: what has happened here Within the last two to three weeks,
Speaker 1: they've seen an explosion in a number of enrollments for
Speaker 1: Obamacare UM expanding the Affordable Care Act two hundreds of
Speaker 1: thousands of people, specifically in Wyoming. We find this interesting
Speaker 1: because Wyoming is a red state, but it looks like
Speaker 1: so much activity has happened on the Affordable Care Act
Speaker 1: in the last few weeks. Uh that those governors, governors
Speaker 1: of to red states, I'm trying to find that second
Speaker 1: red state are talking about expanding Medicare and Medicaid as
Speaker 1: a result, things that they didn't want to do originally
Speaker 1: under Obama. But it looks like the citizenry are really
Speaker 1: excited about having access to affordable healthcare. Okay, I would listen. Listen, Republicans,
Speaker 1: y'all taken a little longer to get on board, but
Speaker 1: I'll come on and get on board. I bet you
Speaker 1: plenty of haven't got them simbulist checks next week. I
Speaker 1: wondered if they send their stimulus check back. I'm asking
Speaker 1: for a friend, so I need some clarifications. So, Nick,
Speaker 1: you're saying that are more people enrolling or just the
Speaker 1: governor's expanding it? Or is it both? That enrollment is
Speaker 1: forcing governments to look at other ways to expand, because
Speaker 1: what happens is when they expand that Affordable Care Act,
Speaker 1: they're able to get compensated in other areas. And it
Speaker 1: looks like people are just really excited about the program
Speaker 1: and to get on board and this is not something. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know, they haven't always been on board with the
Speaker 1: idea of the Affordable Care Act or Obamacare, whatever terminology
Speaker 1: you want to give it. And it looks like the
Speaker 1: people are excited about what it offers and affords them,
Speaker 1: particularly those who still have children who maybe within the
Speaker 1: age group, who still live at home, who still fall
Speaker 1: within that age parameter for them to ensure. Well, let
Speaker 1: me say this, those are the dumb ones. Just you
Speaker 1: just broke it down and explain the Affordable Care Act
Speaker 1: from Obamacare, because you know, a lot of them that
Speaker 1: voted for Trump back in two thousand and sixteen thought
Speaker 1: that the Affordable Care Act was Donald Trump's Act. They
Speaker 1: didn't know that that was the Obamacare because you know,
Speaker 1: some of us don't read, don't write, you know, reading
Speaker 1: its fundament that they don't do none of that. But
Speaker 1: now they see that it was beneficial to them. So
Speaker 1: good for them for finding their way. Um, they're trying
Speaker 1: to get those vaccines too, so but I don't want
Speaker 1: to open that candle words. I'm sorry, I take that back.
Speaker 1: Can I retract that statement? I take that back. I
Speaker 1: don't want to. I don't even talk about vaccine at all.
Speaker 1: In fact, i'll close on this. I'll just let you
Speaker 1: know that it looks like, uh, there are two hundred
Speaker 1: thousand new enrollments, um uh, particularly for this for Obamacare,
Speaker 1: and that's not something that they were expecting at all.
Speaker 1: So that's how popular it is. Dumb dumps, dumb dumbs. Yeah,
Speaker 1: dumb dumps, dumb dumps. Look, look, look, y'all, I'm ready
Speaker 1: for traveling. Y'all see my shield? Like what you really
Speaker 1: wear that the entire fight? Why do you do that already?
Speaker 1: Of course I did. Yeah, baby, I'm not playing with y'all.
Speaker 1: I'm doing my part because I don't want y'all part.
Speaker 1: Because y'all see what's happening in Miami. I know that
Speaker 1: ain't the next topic, but I'm ready to go to Miami.
Speaker 1: And I'm not even going to Miami for the super
Speaker 1: spread event that I think that is happening, because we're
Speaker 1: truly not out of the woods. I'm one of Miami.
Speaker 1: But they talk about the police down there are being
Speaker 1: very brutal to the black students, to those black people
Speaker 1: down there, they are being racist and beating them over
Speaker 1: here with Billy Cliff and being extra aggressive towards the
Speaker 1: Black Keys that's down their party and for spring break,
Speaker 1: the Blacks, not nobody else. Well, I did see that report.
Speaker 1: To um, it's it's I've seen some video and you know,
Speaker 1: some of it is conflicting stories. One, I'll just say,
Speaker 1: this whole curfew that's been put in place in Miami
Speaker 1: is so unrealistic because I remember they hadn't tried to
Speaker 1: do the same thing when I was down there. Nobody's
Speaker 1: gonna follow it. But you know, state of emergency. Okay,
Speaker 1: it looks good optically, but um, yeah, I did see
Speaker 1: some reports around. You know, police are being very brutal
Speaker 1: to you know, students of color down there, which I
Speaker 1: think is absolutely unacceptable. Um. But I've heard conflicting stories
Speaker 1: from kids that are down there, because one young lady
Speaker 1: came on the news and was just saying, you know,
Speaker 1: some of these kids are actually inciting some of these attacks,
Speaker 1: and we have to be accountable in different things. So, UM,
Speaker 1: I'll just say this, Please be safe. Miami is very
Speaker 1: wild during this time. We're still in a pandemic and
Speaker 1: nobody's wearing a mask, So just please be safe if
Speaker 1: you are in Miami. More than one thousand arrest as
Speaker 1: Miami Beach pushes spring Bay break curfew into April. Police
Speaker 1: condemned for use of pepper balls flame. This may be
Speaker 1: directly tied to what you were talking about, pepper balls
Speaker 1: to break up crowds. Uh, break curfew has been ignored.
Speaker 1: It's at eight p m. So I guess they issue
Speaker 1: said Ever, nobody's following that, so they it's at a
Speaker 1: p m. Hey, eight o'clock. Off the streets. People are
Speaker 1: moving fast enough. That's when uh, they're making steps to
Speaker 1: disperse crowds and Mibie Beach officials have extended a curfew
Speaker 1: and state of emergency into the month of April. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I think that's also to giving them away our
Speaker 1: justification for it, because they know nobody's gonna follow an
Speaker 1: APM curfew. So it's also almost giving the police officers,
Speaker 1: you know, the carte blanche to say, Okay, I can
Speaker 1: go after you and harass you because you're out here
Speaker 1: past eight o'clock, because they know nobody's gonna follow that.
Speaker 1: It's spring break. Who's staying in their room at eight o'clock?
Speaker 1: That's it's just absolutely ridiculous. I will say, though, did
Speaker 1: you guys see that video of that one kid that
Speaker 1: got arrested and sprinted out of the back of the
Speaker 1: police car and tried to run down the beach. Hilarious.
Speaker 1: I didn't see that. But here's my thing. One thousand arrest.
Speaker 1: If you didn't catch the coronavirus at the party you're
Speaker 1: on damn show, catch it in jail because they're not
Speaker 1: gonna let you masch win no mask while you're arrested.
Speaker 1: People arein't even thinking about that. I'm telling you, it
Speaker 1: is very scary and ridiculously you keep you keep, you
Speaker 1: keep talking about that. But I really think most people
Speaker 1: are past the coronavirus. I really do, like that's that's
Speaker 1: not on anyone's mind in Miami. It's not only anybody's
Speaker 1: man ain't having a good time because people want to
Speaker 1: be free. We've been trapped up like animals. We want
Speaker 1: to be out. We want to be loose. But you
Speaker 1: also have to be responsible and cautious for you, for you.
Speaker 1: I And this is a great question for our Flame
Speaker 1: masks that we can address later in the show, because
Speaker 1: one of the things we want to encourage people to
Speaker 1: do is ask Flame. We want to talk about if
Speaker 1: you've got a question to ask Flame, use those flames
Speaker 1: and throw it in there, and Flame will address one
Speaker 1: of those questions at the end of the show. But
Speaker 1: one of the things that we saw also Flame this
Speaker 1: week was how those in New York, and this is
Speaker 1: where flame masks can definitely sound off, looks like those
Speaker 1: in New York along the Eastern Seaboard, specifically the upper Northeast,
Speaker 1: have had a harder time dealing with COVID than those
Speaker 1: on the West coast and in the Midwest and here
Speaker 1: in the South. Here in the South, you know, we
Speaker 1: never really took the mask mandates, seriously, there was never
Speaker 1: a complete lockdown. Restaurant stayed open. That's the South. Atlanta, Arkansas, Mississippi, Tennessee,
Speaker 1: California still had weather on its side, so people can
Speaker 1: still mix and mingle. The article that I had talked
Speaker 1: specifically about New York and how New Yorkers didn't have
Speaker 1: the luxury of mixing, maybe going to the beach, walking outside,
Speaker 1: being in warmer weather, and then they got hit with
Speaker 1: a brutal storm. So it's just been really hard on
Speaker 1: them psychologically. It's been really hard on them psychologically, and
Speaker 1: it's been really hard on them spiritually because they just
Speaker 1: haven't had the same amount of contact. Well, he's stuck
Speaker 1: in the house. Is New York, you know, having to
Speaker 1: what New York is like in one time and then
Speaker 1: they had blizzes and brutal beating us. They was up
Speaker 1: in the damn house. They were just in the house
Speaker 1: longer than we were on the West Coast because our
Speaker 1: weather is better and we do have the beaches. They
Speaker 1: have beaches in in New York, but you're not gonna
Speaker 1: go when it's freezing. So that's why they're stuck in
Speaker 1: the house. They I'm telling you people just tired, but please,
Speaker 1: let's get off coronavirus. I'm sick of the coronavirus. I'm
Speaker 1: sick of I'm sick of the coronavirus. I'm sick of
Speaker 1: everything that's entail with it. I'm tired of talking about it.
Speaker 1: You know what I want to talk about that hurts
Speaker 1: me to my soul. But I don't know the answer
Speaker 1: to the question. Could you believe that I don't know
Speaker 1: the answer to something? The children at the borders? Yeah, oh,
Speaker 1: I thought you said that was too depressing. I didn't
Speaker 1: say that. I said I didn't want to talk about
Speaker 1: Cuomo asked no more. In three weeks in a row.
Speaker 1: Baby gonna do what he's gonna do. I want to
Speaker 1: talk about the kids at the border, because you know
Speaker 1: it is. And somebody said, I was on coffee time
Speaker 1: this morning, somebody said that they would like to have
Speaker 1: the Joe Biden stopped pressed from going to to there.
Speaker 1: Do you really want to see those conditions? Do you know?
Speaker 1: Something you hear about and you're hearing it is one thing,
Speaker 1: but physically seeing it with your own as leads such
Speaker 1: a staying in your DNA and an impression in your mind.
Speaker 1: I don't want to see that. I don't want to
Speaker 1: see those deplorable conditions. I hear enough. It's like with
Speaker 1: Brianna Taylor. We knew the horrific way she died, but
Speaker 1: we didn't see it. But when we saw George Floyd's
Speaker 1: death in our eyes in real time, over and over
Speaker 1: and over, you relive that. That puts some people into depression.
Speaker 1: I don't think I want to see that. I think
Speaker 1: I want them to fix it, but I don't want
Speaker 1: to see it. Um I'm the opposite. I think that
Speaker 1: it's good that we're bringing it because I think it's different.
Speaker 1: When you hear something, you'll say like, oh, that's sad,
Speaker 1: blah blah blah blah blah. But when you see something
Speaker 1: in real time and really understand the depth of what's
Speaker 1: taking place, I think it adds that extra you know,
Speaker 1: pull to your heartstrings. It says, this is something that
Speaker 1: needs to be addressed. You know. That's why you know,
Speaker 1: before you know Biden came into this administration, you had people,
Speaker 1: um like Betsy DeVos that was saying things like, oh,
Speaker 1: you know, it's like a retreatment center and it's not
Speaker 1: that bad, and you know there they have blankets, and
Speaker 1: she kind of made it seem like it was a
Speaker 1: summer camp that these kids were going to. It wasn't
Speaker 1: until cameras went in and said no, this is actually
Speaker 1: what's happening. Then everybody was outraged. That's the same slow
Speaker 1: beach that was in charge of education. Yeah yeah, huh huh.
Speaker 1: I think as uh as having worked as a journalist
Speaker 1: most of my professional career, I think I agree with
Speaker 1: you on that, Lauren. I think that sunlight really is
Speaker 1: the best disinfectant. Right. It is definitely uncomfortable. I think
Speaker 1: we have a history of showing images that are uncomfortable,
Speaker 1: but it also sparks discussion. I can argue that seeing
Speaker 1: hoses turned on people and dogs let loose, you know,
Speaker 1: in Selma, leading to the civil rights movement, or really
Speaker 1: the the action behind it is what really sparked it.
Speaker 1: It is possible that people seeing these images flame will
Speaker 1: force Congress to finally act on a comprehensive plan for immigration,
Speaker 1: because the problem, I feel like it's multi factoral. Right,
Speaker 1: So it's not only that we have a border at
Speaker 1: the US Mexico, a crisis at the US Mexico border,
Speaker 1: but we also have a situation where now, unlike before,
Speaker 1: we've got these unaccompanied kids coming. And I don't know
Speaker 1: what you do with that. If it's somebody as old
Speaker 1: as me, it's Nick walking across the border, sending Nick back,
Speaker 1: let them get eaten by coyotes or whatever, because I'm
Speaker 1: an adult, but I don't think that children should be
Speaker 1: subjected to that. And I don't know what you do
Speaker 1: in that situation. Uh, if you give them harbor, if
Speaker 1: you let them stay on the Mexico side, Uh, do
Speaker 1: you still treat people like people? I think that most
Speaker 1: people want a strong border, but they're not clear on
Speaker 1: how they want that border enforced. And so I think
Speaker 1: we just have a situation that really has snow bald
Speaker 1: over the years. But I think this whole thing is
Speaker 1: hypocritical though, because I just want to draw a parallel.
Speaker 1: I find it interesting that we don't want people from
Speaker 1: Mexico coming into the United States. Some people feel that way.
Speaker 1: I don't. I think it's interesting that we don't want
Speaker 1: them coming here. But at the same time, when coronavirus happened,
Speaker 1: everybody fled to Mexico that were from the US, so
Speaker 1: we were gonna have to find some type of middle
Speaker 1: ground here. Because it's very hypocritical, I understand, like, you know,
Speaker 1: people are are coming to have a better life. You know,
Speaker 1: they're escaping you know, very detrimental and violent and you
Speaker 1: know sometimes you know, possibly you know, being killed, like
Speaker 1: these different circumstances. They should have a right to come here.
Speaker 1: That's just how I feel, And I just think it's
Speaker 1: very hypocritical that in one vein we're gonna say, oh no,
Speaker 1: you can't come here, But in the same second, when
Speaker 1: something disastrous happens in America, we want to flee to
Speaker 1: the same country that we're trying to prevent people from
Speaker 1: coming to. That's just absolutely that's ridiculous, and I think
Speaker 1: for the point of clarification to most of these um
Speaker 1: and I want to be careful with our language, with
Speaker 1: my language, but I think those who are seeking refuge
Speaker 1: here are coming from Central America. It's not even Mexico,
Speaker 1: so they're coming through Mexico. It's both. I had learned
Speaker 1: the Mexico part, but I've definitely heard I'd heard Central
Speaker 1: America because they've been devastated over the last year with
Speaker 1: the storms and the drought. So all I'm saying Mexico,
Speaker 1: I think. Let's the clarify. I'm saying it's both because
Speaker 1: I personally know people that have that came from Mexico
Speaker 1: to be here. So that's why I'm saying it's both,
Speaker 1: because I have people that I work with that were
Speaker 1: actually refuge refugees from Mexico and that came to this country. Well,
Speaker 1: then we give up a one and don't come here.
Speaker 1: Y'all don't come here because y'all think y'all get it
Speaker 1: bad over there. We had it bad for four years,
Speaker 1: ship you might I'm here. Whoa, we had it bad.
Speaker 1: We had a bad, real bad this last year. Uh No.
Speaker 1: Answers to the questions I hear what y'are saying about
Speaker 1: people the cameras over there. Maybe it will make people,
Speaker 1: but do what what are we gonna do our hands time?
Speaker 1: What can we do? Well? No Biden can do something.
Speaker 1: And that's the other thing too, is that I feel
Speaker 1: like with this whole Biden administration, people are forgetting as
Speaker 1: well that Biden inherited a screwed up situation at the
Speaker 1: border because of what Trump did, similar to when Obama,
Speaker 1: you know, came into office, he inherited a screwed up economy.
Speaker 1: So I want us to be careful before we automatically
Speaker 1: go on the let's blame Biden train, because I feel
Speaker 1: like we do that a lot. I'm not blaming I
Speaker 1: don't and I'm not blaming him yet. I will say
Speaker 1: that because I think he needs he needs to he
Speaker 1: needs to have an opportunity to try and fix this disaster.
Speaker 1: So that's why I'm saying I'm not blaming him yet.
Speaker 1: I want to see what he does. And if he
Speaker 1: doesn't do what I think is necessary to fix the situation,
Speaker 1: then you all can go ahead and blame him. But
Speaker 1: I think that we need to see what he's going
Speaker 1: to do because he inherited a very screwed up situations
Speaker 1: to time, and please, Nick, we're gonna bring it on flame. Man,
Speaker 1: We're gonna come back to you because we want to
Speaker 1: get some other people's opinions. We read that kid me
Speaker 1: so blessed. How are you? I'm good. I'm gonna make
Speaker 1: it quick. So as far as the borders are concerned,
Speaker 1: this was happening before Biden, before Trump, before Obama, and
Speaker 1: I think the media is now bringing attention to it,
Speaker 1: and so emotionally we get attached to the stories and
Speaker 1: to the little things that we hear. But it's been
Speaker 1: a problem at those board. It's been a problem for
Speaker 1: a long time. Now When is it a problem that
Speaker 1: we are stopping them or is it a problem that
Speaker 1: we are containing them? Because I'm like Lauren, I I
Speaker 1: know wonderful Mexican people that I and Latino people that
Speaker 1: I fucking loving the door I used to date the
Speaker 1: Mexican man and woman. Don't air your business now, don't
Speaker 1: an your business, now you go. I think it's a
Speaker 1: problem that I think it's a problem that they're being um,
Speaker 1: they're being abused, that being mistreated, sex trafficing is happening,
Speaker 1: Crimes are happening towards them. There wasn't There was a
Speaker 1: Border patrol officer who was a serial killer and killing
Speaker 1: women that came out a couple of years ago. So
Speaker 1: they're being exploited in a way that it's not right.
Speaker 1: It's not right, and I think that's why we say,
Speaker 1: at least in my opinion, I'm glad that media is
Speaker 1: bringing attention to it because I feel like a lot
Speaker 1: of these stories end up getting buried. There was also
Speaker 1: the story that came up about some of these women
Speaker 1: that were in detention centers that were getting hysterectomies and
Speaker 1: didn't even know about it. So it's necessary, I think
Speaker 1: for the media to cover it. I think it's necessary
Speaker 1: for the cameras to go down so we can understand
Speaker 1: and really have almost like a bird side view of
Speaker 1: what's going on, because sometimes the full story is not
Speaker 1: being told accurately. So that's why I say, I think
Speaker 1: it's important to have the cameras in the media go
Speaker 1: down there. And like you said, Lauren, we can't put
Speaker 1: this on Biden. We can't. I mean, the man hasn't
Speaker 1: even been in office six whole months, and everybody wants
Speaker 1: to put everything on him. We have to give him
Speaker 1: a chance to get his administration in order and get
Speaker 1: things going on on his side of what he can do.
Speaker 1: But also we don't pay attention enough to our local
Speaker 1: government to put everything on one partisan. Absolutely, so there's
Speaker 1: a lot of people across the board that need to
Speaker 1: be held accountable for this, not just the president. Absolutely. Girl,
Speaker 1: I'm telling me so blessed. Thank you for coming in
Speaker 1: with that information because we appreciate it. We I'm telling
Speaker 1: the flame man's give it to us. Y'all know, y'all
Speaker 1: give it to us. Thank you, flame. I love you, guys,
Speaker 1: Thank you so much. Thank you. Bye bye h. I'm
Speaker 1: sorry if you can't see me, we can see you.
Speaker 1: I was not feeling well. Well you're feeling better now,
Speaker 1: Miss Jess. Can you sound off for us there? We
Speaker 1: want to know what you think. You you you hear
Speaker 1: the topic today, what's going on? What are your thoughts?
Speaker 1: Give it to us in three minutes. My mom is
Speaker 1: is from mex Coach. She came here at eighteen UM.
Speaker 1: I don't appreciate people talking about coming here illegally because
Speaker 1: we have laws that say we could claim asylum, so
Speaker 1: people at the borders can claim asylum. I'm really sick
Speaker 1: of people saying they're coming here illegally when there are
Speaker 1: laws that that allow people to claim asylum. So and
Speaker 1: the border is closed and they're coming through, regardless of
Speaker 1: who the president is a Bush administration, Obama administration, Orange
Speaker 1: Crush administration, Bidens and administration. UM. So I really don't
Speaker 1: don't appreciate and I'm not going to call the person
Speaker 1: out UM talking about how we're coming illegally. There are
Speaker 1: people here that are overstaying their UM visas from the
Speaker 1: Philippines UM in California right exactly. So I don't like
Speaker 1: the blanketing of it. I do not like what's going
Speaker 1: on at the border. They are overwhelmed and under resource
Speaker 1: for so long, and now with the American Rescue Plan
Speaker 1: they should be able to address the underfunding. The problem
Speaker 1: is getting them moved. So UM. From what I heard
Speaker 1: and understand, President Biden is supposed to be going UM
Speaker 1: to the border sometime soon, within the next week, I think,
Speaker 1: and it is said I and but we do need
Speaker 1: it reported and you're rightfully, we shouldn't have to um
Speaker 1: see that if we don't want it, we do need
Speaker 1: we take it. But we do need eyes on the ground.
Speaker 1: We do need people to report on the conditions and
Speaker 1: to let us know. We do need watchers to make
Speaker 1: sure that they're coming through and doing right by the
Speaker 1: people that they have at the border. Yes, and according
Speaker 1: to what Miss Jesse was just talking about, undercurrent law,
Speaker 1: migrants can seek asylum even if they cross the border unlawfully.
Speaker 1: It takes years to a judic aid an asylum case,
Speaker 1: and many migrants never show up to court. But the
Speaker 1: law is anyone seeking asylum in the United States is
Speaker 1: allowed to enter and wait to have their case adjudicated. Yes, exactly, So,
Speaker 1: I mean people get lost in the cracks. People do
Speaker 1: get lost in the cracks. Um, they don't show up
Speaker 1: for court for one reason or another. They're afraid of
Speaker 1: getting deported. I understand that. I understand they do have
Speaker 1: to do their part. I'm not saying they shouldn't. I'm
Speaker 1: not saying that, um, they should be here illegally. I
Speaker 1: think that once they get here, they need to start
Speaker 1: getting their stuff in order. And I know it's expensive.
Speaker 1: I know that, but you still need to try to
Speaker 1: make moves to correct it. You know, I'm not saying
Speaker 1: they should be here and all we let give them
Speaker 1: a pass. No, you need to do the steps. I
Speaker 1: know it's hard, and I know, but a lot of
Speaker 1: the lawyers will help you your info and your feedback
Speaker 1: from feel Better. Actually didn't they do. But something that
Speaker 1: I wanted to shift to UM that I saw this
Speaker 1: weekend was the n c A A. Um, what I
Speaker 1: saw was very unacceptable and absolutely outrageous. And just to
Speaker 1: give some context to the story, UM, March Madness is
Speaker 1: going on as it normally happens every year. Things kind
Speaker 1: of shifted last year because of COVID it didn't happen,
Speaker 1: so March Madness is officially back. So uh this past weekend, UM,
Speaker 1: both the men and the women went down into this
Speaker 1: n c a A bubble to have their tournaments, and
Speaker 1: one of the women players brought huge attention to the
Speaker 1: fact that there were huge um disparities in terms of
Speaker 1: the treatment between the men and the women that were happening. So, UM,
Speaker 1: I actually want to say thank you to miss Vanessa
Speaker 1: Bryant because she was the first person I saw had
Speaker 1: posted about this. Yes it is and um, just little
Speaker 1: things like the weight room. The n c A provided
Speaker 1: the women literally a stack of weights and said this
Speaker 1: is your workout facility. This is what you guys need
Speaker 1: to do for the weights now, mind you if you
Speaker 1: look any and yoga mats, thank you. And then when
Speaker 1: it came to the men, they had this beautifully laid
Speaker 1: out jim with everything from tread meals to lifting equipment
Speaker 1: to dumbbells to just stay to the art facility that
Speaker 1: was created for them. And the n c a A
Speaker 1: tried to say, oh, it was an issue of space,
Speaker 1: and one of the women basketball players, I don't know
Speaker 1: her name, but she literally panned and said, if space
Speaker 1: was an issue, I don't understand why. So anyway, the
Speaker 1: n c A tried to rectify the situation. They provided
Speaker 1: the women with some more um, you know, waits to
Speaker 1: work out and things like that. But it's just it
Speaker 1: was heartbreaking to see ever and everything from the food
Speaker 1: the men were being provided stay a can, maconi and
Speaker 1: cheese and all of these bour main delicious meals and
Speaker 1: the women were getting like peanut butter crackers and mashed
Speaker 1: potatoes and like unfrozen vegetables. It was just highly unacceptable,
Speaker 1: highly unaccepted. Shame on, you know what, Lauren. And the
Speaker 1: takeaway from the takeaway from that for that situation to
Speaker 1: be is how we forget there is still a fight
Speaker 1: for equality in so many areas. Right, I think you
Speaker 1: you sit back, and I think more than people were upset.
Speaker 1: They were like, are you kidding me? Really? Have we
Speaker 1: not learned anything over the field? You know, these women
Speaker 1: are athletes, period, their athletes, and why would you not
Speaker 1: give them? Say so, this is why I cover all
Speaker 1: the bases. Do you see that sign in the back?
Speaker 1: Do you see what that says? He she we You
Speaker 1: can't discriminate against me because I'm on all sides of
Speaker 1: the baby. I'm coming at all. So the women ain't
Speaker 1: getting enough, I'm going to the men's room. I do
Speaker 1: when I'm at the airport. You're gonna kisch me this
Speaker 1: Friday if it's too crowded in the means, we will
Speaker 1: go to the ladies. Ladies you know if I'm in
Speaker 1: your bar room, because I'm gonna beat to seat up
Speaker 1: to play and me still don't put to seat down
Speaker 1: because I stand up in peak and publicly. Okay, come on,
Speaker 1: come on, No, I'm just saying in general that is
Speaker 1: that is horrible and shame on them, absolutely, shame on them.
Speaker 1: But then if the wins here's the fear. If the
Speaker 1: women take a stance, what kind of backlash will they
Speaker 1: get from the n c a A. You know what
Speaker 1: I mean? Well, they did take a stance, and that's
Speaker 1: the reason why the situation was record. So I'm saying,
Speaker 1: I'm saying, but not just this backlash. Will I be
Speaker 1: removed from a team? Will I not be able to play?
Speaker 1: Will I be blacklisted? Or said? You know, we live
Speaker 1: in a culture of counsel right now that I don't like,
Speaker 1: I don't like the way you looked at me. I'm offended,
Speaker 1: So I want to cancel everything, probably get ball. You know,
Speaker 1: I hear what you're saying, because there was a there
Speaker 1: was another player, um actually on the men's side, and
Speaker 1: I know this wasn't technically in our notes, but his
Speaker 1: name was a Geo Baker. He basically came out to
Speaker 1: say that the n c A owns his image, his likeness,
Speaker 1: They owned him. He basically said that. And it's not
Speaker 1: fair that there's other individuals. You know, if you want
Speaker 1: to use, you know, their imagery, likeness, you get paid
Speaker 1: for that. But when it comes to the n c
Speaker 1: a A, they're absolutely like they own you. You can't
Speaker 1: do anything. You can't make money, you don't have opportunities
Speaker 1: to do anything, you can't help your family because they
Speaker 1: own you until you, you know, make it out. In
Speaker 1: the NBA, I've been owned since in my twenties, So
Speaker 1: there's a lot of issues going on in the n
Speaker 1: c A. But it's just the sexism that you know,
Speaker 1: it's happening right now. I think it's just it's appalling.
Speaker 1: It really is. Women already aren't getting paid the same amount.
Speaker 1: Of the problem with sexism really being a prevallem right
Speaker 1: now is that we focused on so many other uh
Speaker 1: idiosyncrasies or so many other racisms with the right, not
Speaker 1: with just race, but with sexuality. It's so many other
Speaker 1: stuff that we're focused on, and we still have pushed
Speaker 1: back the thing of me and women. I was watching
Speaker 1: Lincoln this weekend. I have what I've seen Lincoln over
Speaker 1: and over and over again. And when they were in
Speaker 1: the House of Congress, they were making a decision whether
Speaker 1: they were going to pass where the Lincoln was gonna
Speaker 1: pass the free to slaves. He was like, well, if
Speaker 1: you're gonna have black slaves, what's going you have you
Speaker 1: black black people vote? What's next? Women voting? And the
Speaker 1: men were appalled. This was eighteen sixty five when they
Speaker 1: thought of the fact of women actually voting. Now we've
Speaker 1: got so many women in politics, even a vice president.
Speaker 1: But how much of that has changed? How much of
Speaker 1: you hearing that a woman is in a position that
Speaker 1: it bothers you. That's crazy to me. It's it's as
Speaker 1: bad as I don't like you because your skin and
Speaker 1: your he is dark, or your skin is black. That's
Speaker 1: some dumb ship to me. I see it. That's why
Speaker 1: I'm adopting some white kids and change their name from
Speaker 1: Jack and Jill and Bill to j Kwan, Kisha and
Speaker 1: Lakwan and put them in the hood. Baby, they're gonna
Speaker 1: be my baby. They're gonna love all the black people.
Speaker 1: They're gonna be you, my brother. What's her brother. They're
Speaker 1: gonna be judges and police officers and doctors. They're gonna
Speaker 1: take good care of us. I just put the paper
Speaker 1: and I ain't gonna even have names for him. I
Speaker 1: got names from They're gonna be eighteen hundred and six
Speaker 1: hundred all specialties. Of course, you get bigger money when
Speaker 1: they specially see it. Somebody don't here guessing what Foster
Speaker 1: Key is right now, and they're getting it for the chick. Ain't.
Speaker 1: The kid didn't even get a name. The kid name
Speaker 1: is thirty month. Somebody's gonna be made. You know, I
Speaker 1: don't care you think you mad na come with the
Speaker 1: Delaware baby. I will have your real man. One of
Speaker 1: the things we're talking about just moving in that area
Speaker 1: over what is or may or may not be special needs.
Speaker 1: Earlier this week, we had talked about a story that
Speaker 1: we had seen that it kind of caught my eye
Speaker 1: because it's raising new concerns. Spirit Airlines kicked the family
Speaker 1: of four off of a flight because they're four year
Speaker 1: old wouldn't put on his mask because he has autism. Uh,
Speaker 1: this according to the parents, but the airline does not
Speaker 1: recognize autism as a disability. Therefore they're like, the whole
Speaker 1: family has to get off the flight. Uh, if you're
Speaker 1: not going to wear a mask, you cannot fly on
Speaker 1: this plane. Only those with a disability are allowed to
Speaker 1: not wear a mask. And we don't recognize autism as
Speaker 1: a disability. It's a lot of different variants. It's a
Speaker 1: lot of different versions of autism though right there, because
Speaker 1: there's like functioning autism and then there's something like some
Speaker 1: autistic kids who just don't say nothing to do. So
Speaker 1: it's a lot of different levels. So oh, that's that.
Speaker 1: That was a tough one because if I had an
Speaker 1: autistic kid, I'm not gonna let you kick me off
Speaker 1: a plane. I would have worked with my kids before
Speaker 1: we got on to make it like candy or something.
Speaker 1: They were the parents. To me, the parents should have
Speaker 1: had a mask to set their kid up, to say, hey,
Speaker 1: this is we're going to be on this for however
Speaker 1: long the slight is going to be. I need you
Speaker 1: to work and work and work with this. So they
Speaker 1: needed to work with that person before then. And I
Speaker 1: think the airline is wrong for kicking them off. No,
Speaker 1: I mostly think they're wrong for flyting on Spirit airlines.
Speaker 1: Did I say that, allowed? Baby, Spirit will break your spirit.
Speaker 1: They charge you for air. The hell, they charge you
Speaker 1: for ice. They charged you for the cup, They charged
Speaker 1: you to raise the window. Baby, I'm not flyting on Spirit.
Speaker 1: The Spirit will break your spirit. There was there was.
Speaker 1: There was supposedly, I don't know if it was supposed
Speaker 1: to be parody or what, but there was a marketing
Speaker 1: campaign by Spirit. They were trying to see if they
Speaker 1: can make it even tighter. Whereas the way you could
Speaker 1: stand instead of ridiculous like it was a ride at
Speaker 1: six Flags? What's that right called a riddler's revenge where
Speaker 1: you can stand up and sit down to stop it?
Speaker 1: Stop it? Absolutely not? You know that? Is that? Lord?
Speaker 1: What would you You don't have a kid, but you
Speaker 1: thought if it was your nephew, you had an autistic friend,
Speaker 1: or would you have gotten off the plane or would
Speaker 1: you have raised tail? I don't. I'm a little torn
Speaker 1: about this, y'all. I'm not even gonna lie because more
Speaker 1: spirit they tickets toward all, then they don't get you
Speaker 1: on the ticket price, they get you on everything else.
Speaker 1: This this is who got I hope I don't offend anybody.
Speaker 1: Um My feeling is this. I think it's always important
Speaker 1: to understand the climate that we're living in. And I
Speaker 1: think that's unfortunate to say, but I think that's just
Speaker 1: the facts of life at this point, because we're in
Speaker 1: a pandemic and if I had to that was autistic.
Speaker 1: I would want my kid to wear a mask because
Speaker 1: I don't want him to be predisposed to coronavirus or
Speaker 1: any other type of flu that may be circulating, So
Speaker 1: I would want my kid to wear a mask. So
Speaker 1: I don't know was he he was refusing to wear
Speaker 1: this maskning Just so I'm clear, he was refusing to
Speaker 1: wear the mask, he would not put on the mask.
Speaker 1: And that's when you know, flight attendants asked them, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm a little conflicted because I don't want my kid
Speaker 1: to be predisposed to corona. So, like you said, I
Speaker 1: think I would have had to have a conversation with
Speaker 1: him and said, hey, we gotta get on this flight.
Speaker 1: This is a matter of your safety. I need you
Speaker 1: to understand what's going on. I need you to wear
Speaker 1: this mask and whatever. And like I said, I don't
Speaker 1: have a child. I don't have a child that's autistic,
Speaker 1: let alone. So I don't want to offend anyone or say,
Speaker 1: you know, how dare you say this? This is just
Speaker 1: my opinion. I will want my kid to be protected.
Speaker 1: And I understand at the same time the airline's position
Speaker 1: in terms of they have to think about everybody, because
Speaker 1: if somebody does catch COVID and let's say this autistic
Speaker 1: child was the only person without a mask on, then
Speaker 1: the airline becomes liable. If somebody wants to Sue, Oh,
Speaker 1: I don't fun with the airline. I get exactly what
Speaker 1: you're saying, but as a parent, you couldn't with an
Speaker 1: autistic kid. You can't say the day of okay, we're
Speaker 1: going on flight. You would have have had to practice
Speaker 1: that with that kid before. If it took a week,
Speaker 1: if it took two weeks, because you're not gonna get
Speaker 1: your money back probably, and you need to get to
Speaker 1: your destination, so you're gonna it's your responsibility as a
Speaker 1: parent to teach your child, to show your child what
Speaker 1: they need to do in order to be responsible for
Speaker 1: you all to travel as a family. I hate that
Speaker 1: they kicked them off. I don't know where they were
Speaker 1: going and whatever the case may be, but I kind
Speaker 1: of kind of see what the airline was saying. It's
Speaker 1: on the parents responsibility to say, hey, Mike, we're going
Speaker 1: on the flight, lawing ling, luring my slow kid, y'all,
Speaker 1: we practice the lawn my best special baby. We're going
Speaker 1: on a flight, baby, and I need you to wear
Speaker 1: this manso and they''re gonna let you. So we're gonna
Speaker 1: wear this mask and we're gonna go see Mr Happy
Speaker 1: or whatever you whatever your kid is used to or
Speaker 1: however you used to talk. You have to teach your kids.
Speaker 1: It's out to the airline's responsibility. And I do you
Speaker 1: understand why they had them removed? I get throw it
Speaker 1: out there. To throw it out there to the flamets.
Speaker 1: They seem to be sounding off, loring. They seem to
Speaker 1: have a lot to say. If somebody wants to sound off,
Speaker 1: throw those flames in the comments, because this seems to
Speaker 1: be flame, like you're saying, it seems to be all
Speaker 1: over the place, different people. Cassie, Can I just say
Speaker 1: you were always prepared? Cassie was like, bring me in.
Speaker 1: I am always ready to come in and have this conversation.
Speaker 1: Love it as a parent that those parents should have
Speaker 1: worked with their child, real talk. I have a niece
Speaker 1: who is autistic and her mom is constantly constantly working
Speaker 1: with her, and I agree with Flame. I wouldn't have
Speaker 1: been on spirit anyway sometimes because they do they do.
Speaker 1: They charge you for bags, they charge you for your seat,
Speaker 1: they charge you for everything. But as a parent, it's
Speaker 1: my it's my responsibility to work with my kids and
Speaker 1: they know when they were gonna fly because maybe okay,
Speaker 1: let me not say what they do. But for the
Speaker 1: most part, you know when you're leaving, and so you
Speaker 1: should take the time to prepare your child. Even if
Speaker 1: you have a baby like I, it drives me nuts
Speaker 1: to fly the airline and the baby's crying. You better
Speaker 1: get that baby some bended drill so we can get
Speaker 1: through this flight. No, you better get you some bows
Speaker 1: headphones with the noise control so you don't hear ship
Speaker 1: going on. I don't even want to hear the conduct.
Speaker 1: That doesn't work. That doesn't work. Sometime the last flight
Speaker 1: I was on, there was a kid in the backroom
Speaker 1: me and I had to keep looking back because they
Speaker 1: was kicking my chair. It took all of Jesus for
Speaker 1: me not to, yeah, lose it. But it's up to
Speaker 1: the parents. It really is up to the parents. Cassie,
Speaker 1: let me ask you a question about this situation. So, now,
Speaker 1: when you just said about the parents should work with
Speaker 1: the kid, you know what that goes back to when
Speaker 1: Titia Campbell was our special guests on the show and
Speaker 1: she talked about how much she worked and took time
Speaker 1: with her kids. That's all I'm saying. If you know
Speaker 1: you're gonna fly, you know your kid can be a
Speaker 1: little challenging, not only for you, but especially out in
Speaker 1: the public. You're right, you work with the however long
Speaker 1: it takes. Now, they might, like you said, they might
Speaker 1: have bought those tickets that day because you know you're
Speaker 1: about a ticket for Spirit Airlines. I can go all
Speaker 1: the way to you were right now for three dollars,
Speaker 1: you could you just gonna pay you Well, you are,
Speaker 1: but you can. You will pay on the back end
Speaker 1: with the air and everything else. So they'll come out
Speaker 1: to a thousand dollars because they charge you for They
Speaker 1: charged you to carry your own purse on the plane.
Speaker 1: They really do. They changed you to carry you a purse.
Speaker 1: It's for everything. But I understand the airlines because just
Speaker 1: like Lawrence said, if someone has been exposed to COVID,
Speaker 1: and maybe the kid might have carried it on. Because
Speaker 1: I just had a friend text me that their kids
Speaker 1: tests are positive for COVID. They went back to school
Speaker 1: and now COVID. So we gotta take um, we gotta
Speaker 1: take precautions because we're still not out of the wood yet.
Speaker 1: So and that's why I say, you have to understand
Speaker 1: the climates that we're living in. You know, things, circumstances change,
Speaker 1: all the time. But I just I can't say that
Speaker 1: they were necessarily wrong. And like I said, I don't
Speaker 1: have a kid who's autistic. I'm just saying, I'm sorry, kid,
Speaker 1: I don't hear it. They have difficult children that are
Speaker 1: not autistics. I'm not wearing the man I've seen it.
Speaker 1: I don't want to put the mask on mine. So
Speaker 1: it's not even necessarily autistic. But who's in control with autism?
Speaker 1: I understand that because the kid could be a little
Speaker 1: but with a regular badass kid, I would snatch him
Speaker 1: up on that plane, Like if you don't sit your
Speaker 1: littles down, I'm a I'm an open this window. When
Speaker 1: we get up in the and push you out, I
Speaker 1: think we would have had a conversation. We want you
Speaker 1: right right right, we get on the point. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: thank you, thank you. That's no West connection. Yes, push
Speaker 1: your We don't know how. I do want to bring
Speaker 1: one more person in here because I see her sounding
Speaker 1: off in the comments. Ms. Bobby Clifford, Hi, Bobby, we
Speaker 1: are coming towards you. I just gotta fine. I'm Bobby's
Speaker 1: ten dollar hole. Stop it. Bobby sent me ten dollars
Speaker 1: every day. I'm Bobby's ten dollar ho. Where's miss Bobby Clifford.
Speaker 1: I'm coming for you, Miss Bobby. Can you put some
Speaker 1: flames in the comments? I can find you faster? Where's
Speaker 1: miss Bobby Clifford? Nicholas, Have you ever flown Spirit? I have,
Speaker 1: but it was Yeah, it was one of those short
Speaker 1: like Boston Philly type dealer or you're in the air
Speaker 1: for spit. I lose Spirit first class, mind you. Spirits
Speaker 1: first class is like Americans third class. Oh, it's just
Speaker 1: a regular sad seat because the regular seats on Spirit
Speaker 1: t ninch. I got way too much ask for that,
Speaker 1: and I think that that was my biggest hsue. It's
Speaker 1: honestly flame. For those who have not flown, it's almost
Speaker 1: like sitting on the folding chair. It's like, yeah, those
Speaker 1: card table chairs and all that. And sometimes they don't
Speaker 1: that back. Sometimes they don't even lean back like fat
Speaker 1: jail say, lame lean back. They don't lean back. They
Speaker 1: don't do the fat Joe. Mm hm. Well, since we're
Speaker 1: talking about airlines, not Clifford. Want to go ahead, Lauren
Speaker 1: and move on to our next one. Because some places
Speaker 1: like Israel and others are starting to require that people
Speaker 1: have uh proof before they can fly and do things. Uh.
Speaker 1: So with the mandatory vaccination, uh, they're requiring that people
Speaker 1: to move around and attend certain events, be able to
Speaker 1: flash said, Hey, I've been vaccinated and standing all that.
Speaker 1: Hi everyone, so how are you? How are you? So?
Speaker 1: I see I see you sounding off in the comments
Speaker 1: and you have a different perspective, So please tell us
Speaker 1: what your thoughts are around this. I want to hear you.
Speaker 1: I do. This is a tough one. I have a
Speaker 1: special needs sister. Um, oh thank god, she has autistic tendencies,
Speaker 1: but not not full autism. Some of these kids, I
Speaker 1: don't want to say controllable. They they're not controllable. You know.
Speaker 1: You you can have practiced forever you get on that
Speaker 1: plane and they could be stuck somewhere trying to go home,
Speaker 1: and now all of a sudden, they have a touch problem.
Speaker 1: So they don't like things touching them. They don't like
Speaker 1: the parents touching them, skin touching them, they don't want
Speaker 1: their clothes touching them, and anything could have happened. He
Speaker 1: could have gone to put it on, and you know
Speaker 1: it's not gonna happen. I realized we have to be safe.
Speaker 1: But then I also put back onto the airlines. We're
Speaker 1: supposed to be socially distancing on the airlines, right every
Speaker 1: other seat or whatever it is. Why couldn't if the
Speaker 1: child was put in an area, maybe switched the child's
Speaker 1: seat where he's not near anybody else, you know, that
Speaker 1: stort of area with his a little bit more room,
Speaker 1: stick him in the corner with the mom or dad.
Speaker 1: Why couldn't they have done something like that because he
Speaker 1: was still on the plane that is closed in, and
Speaker 1: he could still expose other people to a coronavirus. It
Speaker 1: is an enclosed capacity. So if the parents knew that,
Speaker 1: maybe they'd, like you said, maybe that he had an episode.
Speaker 1: You don't always know when the episodes. They might have
Speaker 1: had to make some other precautions for travel, because you
Speaker 1: have to be responsible for other people. And I know
Speaker 1: what you're said about the planes being sociated distance. They
Speaker 1: haven't done that since in about a month. Delta still
Speaker 1: does that. They're the only airline because everybody else is
Speaker 1: crammed in there like in a canyon. Yeah, yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't know. I feel like it should have been some
Speaker 1: other um, I don't know, something else offered to the family.
Speaker 1: I haven't heard of the case, and now I'm gonna
Speaker 1: have to go and do my home. But you don't
Speaker 1: think that they should have removed from the flight. I
Speaker 1: don't know. I see I'm coming from the other end.
Speaker 1: It would tear my heart out if you put me
Speaker 1: on the flight with my sister. I mean, my fadass
Speaker 1: would have taken you down. I probably would have sat
Speaker 1: on you the way. I was not happening. Not happening,
Speaker 1: you know, because they're so discriminated, this this population and
Speaker 1: is treated so poorly to begin It's like the kick
Speaker 1: the dog, even with something like um funds that come
Speaker 1: through the government right where my sister's moneys are always
Speaker 1: the first ones cut cut. The programs are always cut.
Speaker 1: Now I'm going to see Mickey House or something with
Speaker 1: my child. It probably took me forever to try to
Speaker 1: get this this together, and now I get on the
Speaker 1: plane and you're gonna take me off. Yeah, you would
Speaker 1: have taken me off in a straight jacket. Clever. I
Speaker 1: want to, I want to, just want to. I want
Speaker 1: to throw something else out there at you, because we
Speaker 1: talked about earlier, and I know that you are a
Speaker 1: medical professional, So if you can speak in general terms
Speaker 1: for me, there around the Affordable Care Act expansion and
Speaker 1: how this has become popular. Can you give us some
Speaker 1: insight into why you think that maybe why are more
Speaker 1: people signing up? What's the deal? Well, there's more money,
Speaker 1: So I'm not I'm not a health care professional. I'm
Speaker 1: an administrator. So I am our project manager for Mass
Speaker 1: germeral Brigham Hospital. I work on the revenue side of
Speaker 1: the money. So we're the people that try to keep
Speaker 1: the doors open. Um. I mean, I love the Affordable
Speaker 1: Care Act, right. You know, We've got twenty three million
Speaker 1: people that have insurance now under Joe Biden, he's he's
Speaker 1: trying to expand on it so we get more people, um,
Speaker 1: some of these people that have lost their jobs, you know,
Speaker 1: instead of putting them on a straight medicaid, he's trying
Speaker 1: to offer plans that we can now come in through
Speaker 1: the Connectic Care right, and we get more people hooked
Speaker 1: up that way, which is great. It's great financially. People
Speaker 1: think we're spending more money, but in the end, when
Speaker 1: these people don't come through our emergency room doors, we're
Speaker 1: saving a fortune. Um, you know, by providing them with
Speaker 1: preventative and proactive care instead of reactive care. I don't
Speaker 1: know that. No, no, that totally that totally works. It
Speaker 1: totally makes sense to me. And it wasn't meant to
Speaker 1: like throw you and put you on the spot. But
Speaker 1: I just believe maybe working in that arena you had
Speaker 1: more insight as to why all you know, now people
Speaker 1: are finding it an attractive option, you know, as opposed
Speaker 1: to being Can I be Frank Bobby Canna ask you
Speaker 1: this and think because this is what I think. I
Speaker 1: think that some people that were may have been under
Speaker 1: the influence of Trump. And I'm saying this because I've
Speaker 1: seen a lot of interviews of previous Q and on
Speaker 1: UM members that are kind of seeing the light and
Speaker 1: have this epiphany all of a sudden. I think that
Speaker 1: some of these people that were under the offices of
Speaker 1: Trump and thinking whatever he said was the gospel and everything,
Speaker 1: they might have done some research and they might be
Speaker 1: some of those non you know, college educated folks that
Speaker 1: were his supporters. They realized that Obamacare is something that
Speaker 1: they actually need and that they would have lost once
Speaker 1: upon a time, and that's why they're now starting to
Speaker 1: re enroll, because they've had an epiphany and would have
Speaker 1: done some thinking for themselves. Instead of believing what we
Speaker 1: all say orange crush was providing to them. Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: and that and that very well could be the case.
Speaker 1: Or it could be the people that had it through
Speaker 1: their employer no longer employed, you know, aren't getting their
Speaker 1: insurance through their employer, you know, when they've come the
Speaker 1: other way. I mean, the Affordable Care Act is great.
Speaker 1: Do you ever see they did Jimmy Kimmel um that
Speaker 1: that he did when he went out on the street
Speaker 1: and he asked people if they would have signed up
Speaker 1: for what if they thought about the form here Act
Speaker 1: and what they Wasn't that terrific? And what they know
Speaker 1: about obamaca? Hay did Obamacare Obama think were talking about?
Speaker 1: He was talking about West Virginia and Techie uh, because
Speaker 1: that's when he came out works in two thousand and
Speaker 1: sixteen to vote for Downald Trump. All those people who
Speaker 1: had oxygen tanks and we're we're diabmantic and all that.
Speaker 1: They didn't know that they Obamacare. They didn't realize that
Speaker 1: they were getting all their medical procedures every month from
Speaker 1: the Affordable Care Act, which was actually Obamacare. Reading Like
Speaker 1: I said in the beginning, it's fundamental if you read
Speaker 1: you a Loanesom ship. Knowledge is power. Y'all dumb asses,
Speaker 1: didn't know what y'all was doing. He cut up y'all
Speaker 1: oxygen tank. Oh, y'all walking around here. That's why Koby
Speaker 1: here because y'all jumped, dropped to their Minster tank, ran
Speaker 1: up all the oxygen and ship. But I'm laughing. Well,
Speaker 1: I mean you look, you look at it like, um,
Speaker 1: we could have got it, could have had it stripped
Speaker 1: out right, That's what Trump wanted even there the Republicans
Speaker 1: in the end, you know, John McCain, you know you
Speaker 1: didn't get rid of them. That helped a lot of people.
Speaker 1: And what were you gonna do with those people? You know?
Speaker 1: Healthcare Supportune, it's really it's it's the highest GDP you know,
Speaker 1: single item that we have. It's crazy since you on that,
Speaker 1: you on the financial end, do you think that the
Speaker 1: United States should do like Canada and like the u k.
Speaker 1: And we pay all the taxes and we get free
Speaker 1: healthcare for everybody. No, it's horrible. It's horrible health care
Speaker 1: even those places, because you know, we'd all be we'd
Speaker 1: all sign up for an appointment and the five of
Speaker 1: us would all go at the same time. Sit there
Speaker 1: wait forever. You don't necessarily get the best docs. It
Speaker 1: costs a fortune to be a physician. I have a
Speaker 1: friend that's a psychiatrist, and she got married at the
Speaker 1: age of forty eight, and her husband's gift to her
Speaker 1: at forty eight, to keep that in mind, forty eight
Speaker 1: was to pay off the rest of her student loans.
Speaker 1: It's a fortune to become a clinician. And so under
Speaker 1: these under one their their payments, say there'll be no
Speaker 1: incentive for us to have docs. What what would you
Speaker 1: go into it for when you come out with three
Speaker 1: and worth at student loans and you're gonna make a
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty thousand mobby, I'm so glad you said that.
Speaker 1: There are so many people. There are so many people
Speaker 1: who think that doctors are all wealthy, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: you have no idea. I have so many friends who
Speaker 1: are doctors who are struggling because they student loan debt
Speaker 1: is ridiculous. Absolutely, you're absolutely right, absolutely right. I'm glad
Speaker 1: you brought that up. Thank you. Now, people who make
Speaker 1: and they should make a lot of money at the surgeons, right,
Speaker 1: so people orthopedic surgeons, cardiac surgeon, you know, thrustic surgeon
Speaker 1: because there you know, it's the stress level. I mean,
Speaker 1: I can't even imagine what the burnout if anybody actually
Speaker 1: ever looked at the burnout. But overall, you know, no,
Speaker 1: it's for for what they have to put in their
Speaker 1: on call all the time. I wouldn't want to be
Speaker 1: a clinician, no way. Well this is maybe tuition should
Speaker 1: be free and people can get a go ahead pay
Speaker 1: for it if we did some sort of different package. Right,
Speaker 1: So for these kids that are really super like science,
Speaker 1: are mathematically inclined sounds like your son, um flame, you know,
Speaker 1: maybe we we give them a full boat if if
Speaker 1: helping people like that's their interest, and um, we still
Speaker 1: would have to figure it out of the way. That's
Speaker 1: just one People also like choice. You know, I don't
Speaker 1: want to go to this. I wanna so you Boston around.
Speaker 1: My family's from Ireland, right, so they have they have
Speaker 1: universal health care there. But you're gonna see Dr O'Brien.
Speaker 1: Well I want to see Dr Smith. No, you're gonna
Speaker 1: see Dr O'Brien. You know he does all of them.
Speaker 1: I want to choose where I'm gonna go. I wanna
Speaker 1: you know, if I if even if it's a tiered plan,
Speaker 1: I want to choose the best and if I'm willing
Speaker 1: to pay for it, that's what i wanna do. And
Speaker 1: even those in the UK, Bobby Clifford, who were required
Speaker 1: to take Astra Zeneca, they they're like, wait a minute,
Speaker 1: I'd like to do Johnson and Johnson, Oh Maderna, Nope,
Speaker 1: you will do Astra Zeneca because this is nationalized health
Speaker 1: Thank you very much, get in line. That's why, thank
Speaker 1: you for educate me on there. But because we always
Speaker 1: here that Canada and the UK have the best health
Speaker 1: care because they have free healthcare. I've never even thought
Speaker 1: about it coming in from that aspect. Yeah. See we're
Speaker 1: laughing and literally exactly. We're not the most efficient. I mean,
Speaker 1: I will say we don't do a great job with it.
Speaker 1: We spend a lot of money in the United States.
Speaker 1: Other countries do it better than us. We need to
Speaker 1: learn from them, you know how we can do it
Speaker 1: a little bit um less expensive. You know, people don't
Speaker 1: need to go into the hospital and have forty five
Speaker 1: am our eyes. You know, one might be okay. Um,
Speaker 1: So we have to we have to get it, we
Speaker 1: have to have to get the cost down. But that said,
Speaker 1: I like, um, you know, I like choice. I want
Speaker 1: to I want to choose what I want. I want
Speaker 1: to choose the plan that I want. Um, I agree
Speaker 1: with me that this is all my opinion. Some people
Speaker 1: might think it's great when I hear the universal the
Speaker 1: Medicare plan for all, like I break out in a
Speaker 1: cold sweat. I don't know how we'd afford it. I
Speaker 1: don't know how we'd pay for it, you know. Um, yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't saying I don't think that's the best way
Speaker 1: to go. That said, I think something Obama Obamacare UM
Speaker 1: expanded and perfected would be. Well, thank you so much video,
Speaker 1: you know, thanks for bringing me loves you over here.
Speaker 1: Thank you, but Lord Jesus, oh honey, and I hit
Speaker 1: that X for us. Please, thank you and thank I'm
Speaker 1: going thank you, thank you, and thank you for mentioning
Speaker 1: my son. Yes, yeah, I'm very probable I have too.
Speaker 1: I got I got three grade, even two. I don't
Speaker 1: even know if I saw the pictures. I got three
Speaker 1: graduations in next in June, eight grade and even ceremony,
Speaker 1: and it's it's just like everything you ain't no ceremony,
Speaker 1: and then we we might run a home figure it out.
Speaker 1: They'll flame, they'll figure it out. Like here, and I'm
Speaker 1: just north of Boston. I'm like five miles from Boston.
Speaker 1: They put all sorts of like banners up in the center.
Speaker 1: They had them come in almost like to get the
Speaker 1: pictures to walk. Nobody was there. Everybody had an assigned
Speaker 1: time to do it. So you know, they might tell
Speaker 1: you you've got to come in at ten o two
Speaker 1: and you show up and he gets to walk and
Speaker 1: get you know, there's all sorts of different things that
Speaker 1: they're doing to try to make it special for him.
Speaker 1: It won't be the same, yes, but um, he's in
Speaker 1: the same boat with all his all his peers, right,
Speaker 1: it'll be something to talk about. Well, I'm going to
Speaker 1: I'm going to my son's graduation as a guy. I'm
Speaker 1: going to my daughter's graduation and slam. I always going
Speaker 1: to be excited. I made a man about Thank you
Speaker 1: Bobby so much. So. I know that we're running a
Speaker 1: little short on time, but I feel like we can't
Speaker 1: complete this episode without addressing all of the hate that's
Speaker 1: happening within the Asian community. So nicky and to all
Speaker 1: my Asian people, I love I love you guys. I
Speaker 1: do know some very nice Asian people, starting with Joe Koy,
Speaker 1: who was one of my guests on the show before,
Speaker 1: who was a comedian. I don't, I don't. I've seen
Speaker 1: so many horrible stories, but can I just say, heats
Speaker 1: off to the little old Asian lady that was like
Speaker 1: nine years old and mcgat tried to fight her and
Speaker 1: she whooped his ass. Let me tell you something, stopping
Speaker 1: eating sure rice and eat more white rice because that
Speaker 1: old lady was not having it. Baby, that old lady
Speaker 1: fall back. Sometimes you have to fight back. It don't
Speaker 1: matter what color you are. But that's terrible. Are they're
Speaker 1: doing this to the Asian community? Um? Yeah, Nick, And
Speaker 1: we specifically just give some insight to what happened in
Speaker 1: um Atlanta please this last week. Absolutely. Uh we're specifically
Speaker 1: talking about the Atlanta SPA attacks free where the question
Speaker 1: is whether or not uh this was um I hate
Speaker 1: crime because victims were definitely go ahead, Sorry, okay, I'm
Speaker 1: just I'm just saying for for the point of clarification,
Speaker 1: has not been has not been termed as such. They're
Speaker 1: just so that we, uh let our viewers know exactly
Speaker 1: what's going on. Um. But the problem is Uh. People
Speaker 1: are bothered. People are bothered by the events of the
Speaker 1: attack where it looks like within twenty four hours, UH,
Speaker 1: the suspect was able to purchase a handgun legally, go
Speaker 1: to one spa UH that he had frequented often for
Speaker 1: uh we believe now his own sex addiction, um, and
Speaker 1: within less than twenty seven miles away, drive to yet
Speaker 1: another one. The argument is the reason why so many
Speaker 1: believe it is indeed a hate crime is that those
Speaker 1: whom he targeted were Asian women. UM. And in that
Speaker 1: twenty seven mile stretch, you could have stopped anywhere else
Speaker 1: you wanted to, but you went to yet another Asian
Speaker 1: themed spot that he had frequented regularly to uh to
Speaker 1: attack those I just want to clarify these were you're saying,
Speaker 1: these are locations that he frequented, because I didn't hear that. Well,
Speaker 1: the way we exactly now learn more. What we now
Speaker 1: know is that he had been in treatment through his
Speaker 1: spiritual um through his church, talking about his sexual But
Speaker 1: I didn't hear that these were places that he frequented
Speaker 1: for with to fulfill he had been customers. He had
Speaker 1: been a customer to both places and UM he UH
Speaker 1: he said he had a sex addiction, and he's and
Speaker 1: they determined that he had been to these places before regularly,
Speaker 1: that he was Let me say this that nigga, and
Speaker 1: I said, what I'm talking about the white man that
Speaker 1: killed those innocent people. Fun that nigga. First of all,
Speaker 1: he purchased the gun on the same day that he
Speaker 1: did it. That is completely premeditated murder. His man. He
Speaker 1: purchased the gun for purpose of killing people, which is
Speaker 1: what he did. Niggas, you tried to purchase the gun
Speaker 1: down there in Arkansas how long ago, and they put
Speaker 1: them through every roadblock they could it, but you but
Speaker 1: he wouldn't got a gun the same exact day. Before
Speaker 1: we even get that, let's just address the fact that
Speaker 1: you can't register to vote and then vote the same
Speaker 1: day in Georgia, but you can get a handgun the
Speaker 1: same day. If you look like him, If you're Hugh
Speaker 1: is this coach, If you're he was this color, Georgia,
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Georgia, that's why I moved. If you're he
Speaker 1: is this color, you got a little more right. And
Speaker 1: I hate the fact that they tried to say, oh,
Speaker 1: it's not a hate crime. What else was it, but
Speaker 1: I hate crime. What else was it? But I hate crime?
Speaker 1: This man was so I love to play the lot
Speaker 1: of you. I let me just publicly admit I probably
Speaker 1: have a lot of readdiction. So I'm supposed to go
Speaker 1: blow up all the seventy eleven so that I can't
Speaker 1: play the lottery no more because I'm finding fault with
Speaker 1: you because I don't have any self control. He should
Speaker 1: be put in prison, or they should give him the
Speaker 1: death penalty. He killed electrocuted, that's the easy. Oh the
Speaker 1: gas and then your ass jump out, you spit up
Speaker 1: the yellow ship. Oh you poop on you. Oh you
Speaker 1: look like Linda Blair and the exes. You just he
Speaker 1: has been around and sheet given the gas. Give the gas.
Speaker 1: I just I think in general what's happening in the
Speaker 1: Asian community is absolutely terrible. However, I do have a
Speaker 1: huge issue with the media. I'm just going to bring
Speaker 1: that up. I do with how they're trying to cover
Speaker 1: some of these stories. And one I think, yes, what
Speaker 1: we say stop you know a a p I Asian
Speaker 1: and Pacific islander hete, we also need to be saying
Speaker 1: stop white terrorism. That's what needs to be in these headlines.
Speaker 1: And I feel like everybody wants to, you know, walk
Speaker 1: this fine line of oh, we don't want to say
Speaker 1: that that's the crux of a lot of the domestic
Speaker 1: terrorists that we're domestic terrorism issue that we're facing in
Speaker 1: our country right now, it is it's white terrorism. And
Speaker 1: we've had you know, the FBI has come on and
Speaker 1: said that there's they've seen huge spikes because of Trump.
Speaker 1: Trump is also part of the reason why all of
Speaker 1: this hate is happening towards the community. Flew virus from
Speaker 1: all of these different things. And I think that the
Speaker 1: media needs to do a better job of calling a
Speaker 1: spade a spade and stop trying to walk this type
Speaker 1: rope and not offend anybody. Say what it is at
Speaker 1: the end of the day, and NBC specifically stop trying
Speaker 1: to charge the black community to try and fix everything
Speaker 1: when it comes to white supremacy. If that would have
Speaker 1: been a black man that killed all those Asian women,
Speaker 1: this story would be very different. Nickels, If that had
Speaker 1: been a person of color, even a brown person, this
Speaker 1: story would be very different. In the media the way
Speaker 1: it was portrayed because they said the young boy, they
Speaker 1: actually called this twenty one year old man, a young
Speaker 1: boy I've seen, I'm seeing anything. When it first happened,
Speaker 1: and no one wanted to say that it was a
Speaker 1: hate crame when it was clearly a hate crime from
Speaker 1: day one. You knew what it was. It's ridiculous, niggas.
Speaker 1: And I'm telling you the less the less aggressive that
Speaker 1: we are as black people and as people that see
Speaker 1: what it is. And I've seen a lot of podcasts
Speaker 1: and I've seen a lot of people say I'm not
Speaker 1: going to stand with the Asian community because they didn't
Speaker 1: march with us with Black Lives Matter. Can I be
Speaker 1: honest about the whole Black Lives Matter movement march when
Speaker 1: after George Floyd, I saw more people that look like this,
Speaker 1: that look like us out there marching for us and
Speaker 1: with us. But I'll just bring this up to the
Speaker 1: because gonna be mad, you know, I don't care. But no,
Speaker 1: but that also is a part of the conversation. And
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say this. I'm not leaning one way or
Speaker 1: the other. I'm just putting out there what I've seen
Speaker 1: on social media and some of the temperament is that
Speaker 1: some people on our side, the black folks, have a
Speaker 1: bit of an issue with this because they feel like,
Speaker 1: to what you said, Flame, the Asian community didn't necessarily
Speaker 1: stand with us when it came to black black lives matters,
Speaker 1: and as in, you know, just to bring up a
Speaker 1: tragic example specifically in l A, you know, that Korean
Speaker 1: store owner years ago around the Riding King Rights shot
Speaker 1: that fifteen year old girl in the head because he
Speaker 1: tried to he racially profiled her. So there's a lot
Speaker 1: of underlying subliminal issues going along with this too as
Speaker 1: well in terms of why we can't come together. Um,
Speaker 1: I sent you guys a video that one of my
Speaker 1: friend does every Friday. But I think in this space
Speaker 1: a rainbow coalition definitely needs to happen. That's the whole group.
Speaker 1: So it's always one bad apple in a bunch, that's
Speaker 1: what that's the old add So we can't charge a
Speaker 1: whole group because of one or two, or three or ten.
Speaker 1: But that's what I'm saying. It's it's it's a it's
Speaker 1: a accumulation of things. It was. I'm just giving that
Speaker 1: one example. But like you talked about, people didn't feel
Speaker 1: like the Asian community necessarily supported the Black Lives Matter.
Speaker 1: It's a lot of underlying things, and I think it's
Speaker 1: just kind of reaching a boiling point to why people
Speaker 1: are kind of, especially us, we're kind of having the
Speaker 1: struggle in terms of how we should support and you know,
Speaker 1: like I said, Lata, thank you, thank you mom. Latasha
Speaker 1: Harlan's um. Like I said, so Latasha Harland. She was
Speaker 1: fifteen years old. She was shot in the head by
Speaker 1: a Korean store owner on the time of the Rodney
Speaker 1: King ryance because he facially profiled her and said she
Speaker 1: was trying to steal orange juice from the store. So like,
Speaker 1: that's just one example, but there's been a series of
Speaker 1: things that I feel like you've kind of put us
Speaker 1: in this space of opposition where we should really be
Speaker 1: coming together at this point in time. But I feel
Speaker 1: like if we don't address those underlying, you know, issues
Speaker 1: that we may be feeling, we're not going to be
Speaker 1: able to take any steps forward. Oh yeah, Prolific Queenie said, flame,
Speaker 1: didn't you stop going to Asian nail shops? I really did.
Speaker 1: I did. But that wasn't because of any kind of hate.
Speaker 1: That was because of the coronavirus and the bottles were unlisted.
Speaker 1: Let me tell you you see what this one. This
Speaker 1: bottle says narrow here. I need to see a label,
Speaker 1: you know. And when you go to the nail salon,
Speaker 1: they just have a bottle that's clear. They're right on
Speaker 1: their ocean p u vomit, you know, alcohol. I need
Speaker 1: to see where it came from from the source. I'm
Speaker 1: reading with the comment because I did stop going to
Speaker 1: the Asian nail salons. But when you go get your
Speaker 1: nails done at the Asian nail salon, when they put
Speaker 1: out the lotion and when they put out the alcohol,
Speaker 1: they don't pull out the alcohol bottle. They don't pull
Speaker 1: out a lotion, but they put out a clear bottle
Speaker 1: that they have notional or they've written alcohol on. This
Speaker 1: is at every agent salon. This ain't just here in
Speaker 1: California's everywhere, and I didn't trust it. I don't know
Speaker 1: what the hell is there. You might have COVID in there.
Speaker 1: And that's not saying that I'm against going to the
Speaker 1: Asian salon because nobody does my brows like look Kim
Speaker 1: in l A. But that colos down because of COVID,
Speaker 1: So no, I wasn't. I'm not against the Asians. I
Speaker 1: love the agents, but my money spends everywhere, and if
Speaker 1: you make me feel uncomfortable or if I feel uncomfortable
Speaker 1: coming to your place of business, I'm gonna take my
Speaker 1: money to the other place because my money, my money
Speaker 1: spends everywhere. So what should we do flame, Lauren, that's
Speaker 1: the that's the question right now. What what is our charge?
Speaker 1: And what can we do to be better? Are we're
Speaker 1: doing it now, we're talking about it. We're having a
Speaker 1: conversation and let's bring other people into heaving that. That's
Speaker 1: all we can do is conversation about That's nothing I
Speaker 1: can do about it. Yeah, I agree. I just think
Speaker 1: that one we need to address or whatever underlying issues
Speaker 1: we may have, because that's the only way we're going
Speaker 1: to move forward. I said, I think that the Rainbow
Speaker 1: Coalition is needed in this space, um, to provide from perspectives.
Speaker 1: Don't if you if you go with that, whatever you do,
Speaker 1: don't tag a man the Seals because no, no, and
Speaker 1: that that's not even a fair comparison, because Kevin Frasier
Speaker 1: was absolutely wrong. He was absolute he was he was wrong,
Speaker 1: he was so wrong. But um, I think a rainbow
Speaker 1: coalition is definitely needed. That's the only way we're going
Speaker 1: to move forward. And I also think that every time
Speaker 1: that there's something racially wrong with the world, we need
Speaker 1: to stop saying, Hey, black community, what are y'all gonna do?
Speaker 1: That's what I also think has to be addressed as well.
Speaker 1: We are not the savior for y'all, because honestly, y'all
Speaker 1: persecute us the most. If we're just gonna talk about it,
Speaker 1: we're not y'all savior. Figure it out yourselves and then
Speaker 1: maybe we can see how we can help you. But
Speaker 1: I also don't like the fact that it's like, oh,
Speaker 1: you know, something around racism happens not specifically to us,
Speaker 1: we black community. What should we do? S is a
Speaker 1: cold piece? Ain't she? Y'all? A cold piece? Maybe I
Speaker 1: like it? Sorry, just just my thoughts. Vesper, come on
Speaker 1: in the room, come out and how to speak? Come on?
Speaker 1: Or we should have brought and brought him see into Okay,
Speaker 1: we can do that. Next, we can get two flame
Speaker 1: mets for this. Come on Invesper, come out, and the
Speaker 1: rest of you better be looking like the killer in
Speaker 1: two in what's the movie I Love? Where he staied
Speaker 1: he stabbed the mom in the shower. Oh you're talking
Speaker 1: about don't best. We look just like, look he looks
Speaker 1: just like get get your life in a shower, Kurt.
Speaker 1: Let's do it right now. I'll be the mom and
Speaker 1: stab me up. Hey, best, how are you okay? Best?
Speaker 1: For how are you? I'm alright? Y all are beautiful.
Speaker 1: I love how your your mind works. For Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean this whole thing about this shooting here. My biggest
Speaker 1: thing is I'm glad that a lot of the mainstream
Speaker 1: news networks are starting to catch on and not show
Speaker 1: the shoot That's the thing that we need to stop
Speaker 1: doing because a lot of these shootings are coming. So
Speaker 1: we need to storifying the shooter, and we need to
Speaker 1: start painting a picture of who the victims were. That's
Speaker 1: that's my only take on this as long as we can.
Speaker 1: And I love the fact that y'all did not mention
Speaker 1: his name once without cutting ball covering. What is the shrift?
Speaker 1: What did they do with that sheriff that said the
Speaker 1: guy was having a bad day, the murder was having
Speaker 1: a bad day. Is he on leave? Vesper, I have
Speaker 1: no idea that he was taking off of the Yeah,
Speaker 1: he won't be speaking on the case anymore. He's no
Speaker 1: longer so besper I had asked a question, Besper, I
Speaker 1: would like you to address the question, what can we
Speaker 1: do to be better allies? If we understand that there's
Speaker 1: a problem, do we have a responsibility to be better allies?
Speaker 1: What can we do? What should we do? What y'all
Speaker 1: are doing? Like Flame said, you know, having the conversation
Speaker 1: because nobody is going to have the same opinion on anything,
Speaker 1: but if we have a conversation, we might be able
Speaker 1: to find some middle ground. And what y'all do? What
Speaker 1: is the saying of this show. I'm not trying to
Speaker 1: get you a change in my Yeah, we just want
Speaker 1: to use it, and everybody ain't got I think everybody
Speaker 1: has one, just most people choose not to use them,
Speaker 1: or they're so stuck in that way of thinking that
Speaker 1: they don't even realize that they're never using it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I agree with that one, you know for sure, because
Speaker 1: you talk about people that are educated, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, like having degrees, You don't have to have
Speaker 1: a degree to be educated. Everybody has access to Google.
Speaker 1: If you do your research and you do your due
Speaker 1: diligence and you don't read just one source, you look
Speaker 1: at all of the context and everything that's using your
Speaker 1: mind and that's educating the best. For let me ask
Speaker 1: you a question, because you're there in Georgia, what is
Speaker 1: your what is your local news saying about this, the
Speaker 1: whole situation with the murder, because it was it's clear murder.
Speaker 1: I mainly watched Democracy Now. They did great coverage, They
Speaker 1: showed the victims, they didn't show his face, they didn't
Speaker 1: mention his name. I watched last week Night and then
Speaker 1: I just read articles that, um that are trending, and
Speaker 1: that's how I get I mean, and I stay up
Speaker 1: to date. Just with that, you know, I don't have
Speaker 1: to pay attention to stand and I don't have to
Speaker 1: pay attention to any of those mainstream news networks. Democracy
Speaker 1: Now is it's probably the best that I've ever seen.
Speaker 1: At least. Let me ask you, Nick, because you're in
Speaker 1: the media. Is the media in the South now referring
Speaker 1: to him or referring to this as a hate crime. Well,
Speaker 1: just so we're clear, they cannot call it a hate
Speaker 1: crime flame because that's not the charge. Like the media
Speaker 1: does not have the authority to make up a charge
Speaker 1: the hate crime, right, But he has not been charged.
Speaker 1: He has not been charged with hate crime. The media
Speaker 1: is not supposed to the ideas. You're supposed to just
Speaker 1: report the facts, so that that's that's the idea, that's
Speaker 1: the idea spirit, and that's where people that have a
Speaker 1: comfortable sea ship. No, you you're supposed to just have space.
Speaker 1: They didn't say it would be comfortable. I don't like
Speaker 1: that they didn't address that as a hate crime, because
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, have that been one of us, it
Speaker 1: would have been. But flame, I think the bar is
Speaker 1: too high for that. I think that's I think the
Speaker 1: bar is too high. It's even tougher than that premeditation.
Speaker 1: I think that's why they're avoiding, uh, labeling it a
Speaker 1: hate crime. I think I think if they get the
Speaker 1: evidence that it was indeed a hate crime. Um, I
Speaker 1: think this is more Summer's painting this more as an
Speaker 1: attack on sex workers and sex work. That's something to
Speaker 1: the hate crime. But Besper, thank you so much. We
Speaker 1: appreciate you as always. You know what's messed up about
Speaker 1: the whole situation in Georgia because if he had a
Speaker 1: finish for Asian women, Asian women generally like white men
Speaker 1: that are attractive and rich. But I think that's also
Speaker 1: too a part of the persecution that they're talking about,
Speaker 1: because like if you think of a movie like a
Speaker 1: full Metal Jack it right, and so that's that's part
Speaker 1: of the narrative that they're saying in terms of you know,
Speaker 1: people women of Asian race. It's women, it's Asian women specifically,
Speaker 1: and how they're hyper sexualized and there's these expectations that
Speaker 1: are put on them that are putting them in this
Speaker 1: space of persecution. They rejected his ass and so he
Speaker 1: went crazy. That's the case. Ship. That's the same thing
Speaker 1: Pierce Morgan did with Megan Marco. She rejected him. He
Speaker 1: didn't put on never damn gun Ja and bring it
Speaker 1: on home. You are the last one to bring it
Speaker 1: home because I try so hard, um to to not
Speaker 1: go into any relationship um with pre judgments. But it's
Speaker 1: hard for me to be a voice of reason on
Speaker 1: this because I want somebody to extend themselves to us
Speaker 1: without a crisis. I'm tired of being in the being
Speaker 1: the responsible party when society has turned on another group.
Speaker 1: You know, there was a lot of rooms, uh for
Speaker 1: us to bridge our relationship without a crisis, and in
Speaker 1: Asians and I'm not better. We all have you know,
Speaker 1: multi culture friends had a chance to extend themselves to us,
Speaker 1: but they thought they could get a pass in the
Speaker 1: white community because they supplied services that were not directly
Speaker 1: in competition with White America male salons. Uh half half
Speaker 1: orders sure for our rice places. So they didn't even
Speaker 1: do any better. You can go and look at these establishments,
Speaker 1: and I've worked with come, um the commercial districts in
Speaker 1: my city. They don't even want to participate in the
Speaker 1: Awnings program because they can keep maximizing off that target
Speaker 1: market out doing anything. And so I'm not saying this
Speaker 1: is what we have to end up, but I like
Speaker 1: for them for someone to extend themselves to us. I
Speaker 1: am tired of black women being the most disrespected being
Speaker 1: on this article. I'm tired of get I'm tired of
Speaker 1: being tired. What he needed was nothing less than I
Speaker 1: hate crime. But we've powder puffed it up because we
Speaker 1: are still protecting the group who's attacking all of us.
Speaker 1: Whoa saying for the people in the back? Yeah, now
Speaker 1: we're can gnaw on that, But those are my thoughts.
Speaker 1: And it's just it's hard, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: Um to live this long and keep turning the other
Speaker 1: chin I am not my ancestor, h so you know,
Speaker 1: so now we can bounce that around. I don't mean
Speaker 1: to be bitter. No, that's not better, that's honest. Let's
Speaker 1: let's not even go there either, TJ. Because that's not bitterness,
Speaker 1: that's just honesty. Absolutely, you have a right to feel
Speaker 1: the way that you feel you do, and everybody in
Speaker 1: the comments agree with you too, So go ahead, okay,
Speaker 1: tell me how to get out so we can continue.
Speaker 1: I had a question to so, do this mean that
Speaker 1: I gotta take down my seventies Bruce Lee posters because
Speaker 1: I was in love with Bruce Lee in the seven No, No,
Speaker 1: I don't think so. But I think there has always
Speaker 1: been a smug coat existence with the black community and
Speaker 1: the Asian community. But you know where they come where
Speaker 1: that stems from so many of our Caucasian brothers and
Speaker 1: sisters that were in power that were prejudiced. They were
Speaker 1: not brothers to let me take that. So many racist
Speaker 1: white folks that was in power have made everyone think
Speaker 1: that they were better than black and brown. Everyone thinks
Speaker 1: that they were I can't even say brown because Asians
Speaker 1: are considered brown and yellow. But they all think that
Speaker 1: they have been there you are. Let's take that best
Speaker 1: part of that construct too. And that's why I said,
Speaker 1: that's why I sent you in that video that my
Speaker 1: friend did, because that was part of the racist construct
Speaker 1: of why black people. Why can't you guys prosper as
Speaker 1: a minority, Because there's these Asians over here. They're smart,
Speaker 1: they get good high grades in but they work their
Speaker 1: way to the top and they don't create violence. They're
Speaker 1: the model citizen. Why can't you guys do what the
Speaker 1: Asian community does? So they are these racist white folks America.
Speaker 1: They're part of this construct of some of the tension
Speaker 1: that we have between the two of us as communities. However,
Speaker 1: T t J And said it right on the money,
Speaker 1: that's also part of it too. That's why I said,
Speaker 1: That's why I said, there's levels to this, Like if
Speaker 1: we're gonna really do something, we're gonna have to address
Speaker 1: a lot of the subliminal issues and tensions that we
Speaker 1: have as two different communities in order for us to
Speaker 1: move forward. But at the end of the day, I
Speaker 1: agree with T. T JAN stop looking to us to
Speaker 1: everything when it comes to white supremacy, because honestly, y'all
Speaker 1: created white supremacy. Why do we have to fix it
Speaker 1: right and we're all still fighting white supremacy. You didn't
Speaker 1: get a pass, you know what I mean in spite
Speaker 1: of what you you were directly, you know, be in
Speaker 1: competition with any of the other you know, cash loan
Speaker 1: places or whatever is trying to say they're serving our community.
Speaker 1: And because just since the pandemic, I mean, we've seen
Speaker 1: so many Asian people. You don't throw out the N word.
Speaker 1: What are you doing here? Get away? I mean, young
Speaker 1: folks catching this on camera, but I bet they ain't
Speaker 1: saying that now, you know. Um, And again I'm not
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that. You know, this is what they get.
Speaker 1: It has to stop, you know, but quit trying to
Speaker 1: get in bed with these white supremacis there there's no
Speaker 1: room for you that it's not gonna happen. You can
Speaker 1: ask Tiger. They slipped on him. Well, remember he didn't
Speaker 1: identify as black, so he flipped on. And now you
Speaker 1: trying to come back kind of like Stacy, what I'm
Speaker 1: saying exactly what I'm saying. He made up this long
Speaker 1: word to get around what didn't what didn't want him
Speaker 1: in the first place, be be part of who you are.
Speaker 1: Make people demand you, demand that people respect whether you're
Speaker 1: born into these establishments or not. Make sure that they're
Speaker 1: speaking to you, look at them in their eyes, make
Speaker 1: them look at you in your eyes. You know it.
Speaker 1: It beat fill yourself up with self confidence. You know
Speaker 1: that's what anybody You don't go in with your head
Speaker 1: hangs down. And I don't care if you're baying, ring
Speaker 1: me hair or not. You go into their establishments and
Speaker 1: you make them earn your money. So you always thank you,
Speaker 1: Thank you a great day. Make sure you'll follow t
Speaker 1: J at Waits Williams always get the info. Yank you. Nick.
Speaker 1: I will go ahead and close this out here. I'll
Speaker 1: just say this guy's I. You've been kind of quiet,
Speaker 1: and that's that's I'm I'm talking about this. Well, it's
Speaker 1: just I think that there's been a lot of conversations
Speaker 1: around and I think it's a it's a tough situation.
Speaker 1: You know, I live in California for too many years.
Speaker 1: I I you know, you can't live in California, specifically
Speaker 1: Northern California and not be immersed in a heavily Asian
Speaker 1: community and not recognize how much I found my Asian
Speaker 1: neighbors and friends who also contributed. I'm bothered by anyone
Speaker 1: who feels attacked, and I just feel like, um, I
Speaker 1: do wish, I do, wish we could there was some
Speaker 1: way to do more to recognize at I think the
Speaker 1: real problem is, like Lauren touched on earlier, I believe
Speaker 1: it to be systemic racism. And I think that the
Speaker 1: the skill in which those groups move is they seek
Speaker 1: to divide and pit us against each other. I don't
Speaker 1: believe my Asian brother sister is my enemy, and I
Speaker 1: hate that even trying to have the conversation of ally
Speaker 1: or stewardship causes division within my own community. That my
Speaker 1: my community makes it uncomfortable to have that, and I
Speaker 1: don't know what to say or do, and that that's
Speaker 1: where it becomes a challenge for me, because um, I'm
Speaker 1: not ready to I'm not ready. I'm not comfortable hating
Speaker 1: or disliking someone or or not wanting to stand with
Speaker 1: them because they aren't black and bald, and that and
Speaker 1: that that's just me. And so I do believe my
Speaker 1: Asian brothers and sisters deserve my support more than peripheral
Speaker 1: me just having a conversation. I want to know how
Speaker 1: I can do more to to to let people know
Speaker 1: that I do see them having value and that yeah,
Speaker 1: there's some bad apples in every group, but I'm not
Speaker 1: going it's surely some bad apples in everywhere. But let
Speaker 1: me tell you something, y'all better leave them yangs alone
Speaker 1: because have you ever seen the thing with the whole
Speaker 1: or those Asian gangs. Those Asian gangs are treacherous. Have
Speaker 1: you ever seen that special Asian gas? The Asian gangs
Speaker 1: will cut your head off a melo to your mama. No, no, you.
Speaker 1: I know y'all think I'm joking right now, but they,
Speaker 1: the Asian gangs are terrible niggers. I can't say that
Speaker 1: I stand with all my Asians brothers and sisters. I
Speaker 1: stand with the Asian community as a whole. But just
Speaker 1: like it's fucked up Asian people's fucked up black people,
Speaker 1: was fucking white people. And I'm talking about in business
Speaker 1: establishing mints, I go to the beauty supply which are
Speaker 1: mostly owned by Asians here where I live in southern California.
Speaker 1: I still go there to get my mask care of sometimes,
Speaker 1: or a lip gloss or a wig or what have you.
Speaker 1: But if I'm not treated fairly or talked to in
Speaker 1: a respectful way. I take my money and I rolled
Speaker 1: the funk up out because my money, my money spends everywhere.
Speaker 1: And what Jan just say, it is what I always say.
Speaker 1: I don't walk in your place of business or into
Speaker 1: your room and demand your respect. I command your respect.
Speaker 1: You will treat me the way I treat myself, or
Speaker 1: you will get the wrath of this tongue. And if
Speaker 1: you think you got a gun behind that counter, I
Speaker 1: got my purse. No. I mean I agree with you.
Speaker 1: I agree with you for short frame. I think that
Speaker 1: we have to understand the power of the dollar that
Speaker 1: we have. You know, and we black women. Black women
Speaker 1: spend so much money at Asian beauty supplies, Asian owned
Speaker 1: beauty supplies for hair care products and so many other things.
Speaker 1: If we if and we're not against you guys, we
Speaker 1: stand with them. But it's just like what you also were, Lauren.
Speaker 1: Y'all brought that to my pace. They don't stand with us,
Speaker 1: but they don't make it right or wrong. I'm sure
Speaker 1: there aren't something that do yeah, and I'm not I
Speaker 1: don't want to generalize this here in terms of what
Speaker 1: tech Jan and I said because we are definitely on
Speaker 1: the same page. My thing is this, I want the
Speaker 1: media to call a spade a spade. I'm gonna just
Speaker 1: run on the list. I want the media to call
Speaker 1: a spade us say stop white terrorism, because that's what's happening.
Speaker 1: I think that as a whole, we need to address
Speaker 1: the subliminal issues that are between the Asian and the
Speaker 1: Black community if they expect us to help, I think
Speaker 1: what we can do is create a rainbow coalition because
Speaker 1: that's the only way different perspectives are going to actually
Speaker 1: execute any type of change. But we cannot turn a
Speaker 1: blind eye to the fact that there are a lot
Speaker 1: of instances in this country where the Asian community has
Speaker 1: not been the ally to us that they're not expecting
Speaker 1: us to be to them. That's all I'm gonna say.
Speaker 1: And that's why I brought up Um Natasha Harlans and
Speaker 1: what happened, because that Korean store owner who shot her
Speaker 1: in the head did not go to jail, He did
Speaker 1: not get arrested for murder, even though that it was
Speaker 1: a woman. I'm sorry, thank you, Kendall. Um it was
Speaker 1: a woman. She did not get arrested, She did not
Speaker 1: go to jail, nothing happened. So there's instances that we
Speaker 1: also need to address before we just say, oh, we're
Speaker 1: here to just do what we need to do, because,
Speaker 1: like I said, we're always the expected race to step
Speaker 1: in and help when white supremacy is an issue. I'm
Speaker 1: not saying, like we've all said, nobody, I'm not saying
Speaker 1: everybody's a bad apple. There are always a couple of
Speaker 1: bad apples in whatever community. But we have to be
Speaker 1: honest about what's happening here to We can't just turn
Speaker 1: a blind eye and say, oh, yeah, we're here to support.
Speaker 1: We're here to support. We can't do that either. So
Speaker 1: that's all I'm saying. Well, what a world we live in, y'all.
Speaker 1: What a world we live in right now? Thank God
Speaker 1: that we have such smart people like Nick Smith and
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