Speaker 1: Really now, really, really.
Speaker 2: Now, really hello, and welcome to really no really, but
Speaker 2: Jason Alexander and Peter Tilden remind you that people who
Speaker 2: subscribe to our show live happily ever after, no matter
Speaker 2: where they go in the world. And speaking of going
Speaker 2: places in the world, have you ever pondered to leaving
Speaker 2: your home country permanently? Maybe an international job cut your eye,
Speaker 2: or maybe you're moving because of family or to pursue
Speaker 2: a relationship. No matter the reason, the percentage of people
Speaker 2: actually considering leaving the country to relocate permanently has risen
Speaker 2: over ten percent since twenty eleven. Really, no, really, and
Speaker 2: perhaps not by coincidence, become an expatriot is actually easier
Speaker 2: now than ever before. This, of course, opens up a
Speaker 2: lot of questions. Which country is right for you? Are
Speaker 2: their secret methods to gain permanent residency? What is the
Speaker 2: overall process? What are the costs?
Speaker 1: Well?
Speaker 2: To answer these in a myriad of other travel questions,
Speaker 2: we've turned to the world renowned travel detective mister Peter Greenberg,
Speaker 2: a multiple Emmy winning travel news journalist, the travel editor
Speaker 2: for CBS News, and an acclaimed investigative reporter. If you're
Speaker 2: thinking of getting out today, we'll show you how to
Speaker 2: get it going. And now here's two guys that no
Speaker 2: other country seems to watch.
Speaker 1: Jason and Peter on the road again.
Speaker 3: Hey, hey, don't have money, you're going to spend money
Speaker 3: on the road.
Speaker 1: Do you thank much different melody?
Speaker 3: Yeah, that wasn't That wasn't the road again that you know?
Speaker 3: That was a different road. That's a different road, and
Speaker 3: it's not a road. I'm excited for one of the
Speaker 3: travel experts of all time. He's on every time you
Speaker 3: turn a different channel. I don't how many shows he has,
Speaker 3: but Peter Greenberk, he's traveling, he's writing a book, he's here,
Speaker 3: he's doing hotels, Secrets of Hotels. Right, it's he's amazing,
Speaker 3: And well let me give his real boy, I'll give
Speaker 3: his real by multiple Ammy winning Frontline, Travel News Journalist,
Speaker 3: Investigative Reporter, Production line.
Speaker 4: By the way front Line, I wrote that front no
Speaker 4: author known in the travel industry.
Speaker 1: Isy, I'm a detective. Oh h.
Speaker 3: He broadcasts breaking news, investigative reports, CBS Travel Editor additionally
Speaker 3: Travel Detective with Peter Greenberg the Royal tour Ion travel
Speaker 3: is a documentarian and the thing that most people but.
Speaker 5: You left out the US Travel Association's Hall of Hall
Speaker 5: of Leaders.
Speaker 1: He was, I didn't.
Speaker 5: You can't get into that organization.
Speaker 1: No, you can't get out of Peter. Peter, Peter, and
Speaker 1: I know Peter for thirty plus years. Can I say
Speaker 1: where you live?
Speaker 3: I can't say where you live, but what you live
Speaker 3: on or how sure Peter lives. It's my dream and
Speaker 3: you know this, and the only thing that ruined that
Speaker 3: dream was my family?
Speaker 2: Is that?
Speaker 1: Are you crazy?
Speaker 3: You and I have a marine on a boat and
Speaker 3: it is a beautiful boat. Yeah, it's amazing. And I
Speaker 3: just said, I haven't seen him in a lot of years.
Speaker 3: You still live in a buddy goes.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Well, when I first moved out here, I thought, because
Speaker 5: you know, I'm new to Los Angeles, and what's your
Speaker 5: big fear when you're new to Los Angeles? I'm going
Speaker 5: to die in an earthquake? I thought, wouldn't it be great?
Speaker 5: We're on a boat, the earth shakes, You're fine, you're
Speaker 5: on the water. My wife said, you never heard of
Speaker 5: a tsunami.
Speaker 3: Show why we wanted Peter in today other than there's
Speaker 3: a lot of stuff you're going to learn because I
Speaker 3: got a lightning round with him.
Speaker 1: And if you travel.
Speaker 3: He's given me some of the best travel tips that
Speaker 3: are so actionable that I use still to this day.
Speaker 3: And he gave him to me ages ago. But Jason
Speaker 3: actually wanted to know the citizens always say when there's
Speaker 3: no huge election and they're unhappy, or economic times get hard,
Speaker 3: or I'm leaving. How many friends have we had to say,
Speaker 3: I'm leaving the country, so help me out. I'm leaving
Speaker 3: the country. Yeah, and for a variety of reasons.
Speaker 5: Seriously, some people speculate because they don't like the way
Speaker 5: politics goes.
Speaker 1: They go, I can't abid it. I'm going to make
Speaker 1: a change.
Speaker 5: Some people go, I want to start life over. I
Speaker 5: want to a new I'm making the chases a better right.
Speaker 5: Or I wants vacation in France.
Speaker 1: I love it.
Speaker 5: I'm going to buy a house that I'm going to
Speaker 5: live in France. And my thought was, first of all, really,
Speaker 5: second of all, they make it.
Speaker 1: Sound like right.
Speaker 5: I have said to my family, hey, you know, if
Speaker 5: my career really thanks here, we'll go to Australia.
Speaker 1: They love me.
Speaker 5: What we want to know is that's not so easy.
Speaker 1: Potentially it's getting easier by the day. And then really,
Speaker 1: no really, But what percentage of people that say it
Speaker 1: actually do it. Well.
Speaker 4: I go back to nineteen sixty eight when my parents
Speaker 4: said to me, if Richard Nixon wins were moving to
Speaker 4: Canada only won, we didn't go anywhere.
Speaker 1: And a lot of people are saying that.
Speaker 4: However, now these countries are realizing they can be economically
Speaker 4: benefited by having Americans come over, so they're giving you
Speaker 4: what they call golden passports.
Speaker 1: And a golden passport is if you invest. You mentioned Portugal.
Speaker 4: So Portugal had a deal for many years up until
Speaker 4: last month that if you invested like five hundred thousand dollars,
Speaker 4: either in a savings account or you bought real estate.
Speaker 4: After three years you were invested, you became a citizen
Speaker 4: of Portugal, dual citizenship.
Speaker 1: Right next thing you know, you're living there.
Speaker 4: So the number of American expats is you have left
Speaker 4: the US and are living permanently in Portugal or London,
Speaker 4: or Paris or the south of France is growing rapidly.
Speaker 1: Do they all have a similar trope? They don't.
Speaker 3: But Peter so I saw a percentage that said, and
Speaker 3: it's hard to quantify exactly because we don't know how
Speaker 3: many people in the country at any given times. Last
Speaker 3: year said I'm out of here and didn't do it.
Speaker 3: But the guests I've given was ninety seven percent. Don't
Speaker 3: you know it's hard ten percent? About ten percent actually
Speaker 3: go through with it. But what I heard also was
Speaker 3: when they want to go through with it and you
Speaker 3: see the amount of paperwork, language barrier, stuff, they cultural barriers,
Speaker 3: they start.
Speaker 4: Going, oh, it gets daunting. Well, what's even complicating it
Speaker 4: more is how many Americans?
Speaker 1: Do you think? You even have a passport as a
Speaker 1: percentage of the population, Right, You're ready? That's really interesting. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that means fifty nine percent even if they want to leave,
Speaker 1: they can't. Right.
Speaker 4: And then the crazy thing about the fifty nine percent
Speaker 4: is they actually think it's a great idea not to
Speaker 4: have a passport.
Speaker 1: I've got everything I have here on I need in Kansas.
Speaker 1: Really goodbye? Right.
Speaker 4: So the point is that percentage that you just gave
Speaker 4: me is see less. Wow wow, Yeah, but you get okay.
Speaker 3: Aside from the money, somebody having the five hundred thous
Speaker 3: to put in the bank account or to buy the
Speaker 3: real estate, what else? What else are some of the
Speaker 3: major restrictions in papers. My understanding was I'm trying to
Speaker 3: think of friends of mine that have done this. If
Speaker 3: I let's talk about Australia, because I have. I've been
Speaker 3: to Australia many times, Peter and.
Speaker 1: I, and they love you.
Speaker 5: They're a nice community there that I feel like I
Speaker 5: would be comfortable. I could make a living there. But
Speaker 5: if I just decide I want to go, what would
Speaker 5: my process be?
Speaker 1: What would I have?
Speaker 4: Got some interesting work rules and the work role they
Speaker 4: had there is you have to you have to basically
Speaker 4: justify that you're not taking a job away from an Australia.
Speaker 1: But that's why I'm going. No, but you can probably do.
Speaker 4: That because you get a special exemption because nobody can act.
Speaker 1: The way you act. Uh huh, I got I believe?
Speaker 1: Did I say that I'm sorry hit the bill.
Speaker 4: Rather?
Speaker 1: Really no? Really no, But that's what they'll do.
Speaker 4: If you can prove that you are qualified to do something,
Speaker 4: that you're not going to displace somebody else, and that
Speaker 4: you'll add to the economy, you can make that claim.
Speaker 1: You could do that easily. You're there. Uh huh wow?
Speaker 1: And what else do you have to do to get there?
Speaker 1: Money wise? Or do a certain nothing?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: What are the easiest. So, off the top of your head,
Speaker 1: the top by these youth countries to leave.
Speaker 4: Well, I'm I'm going to turn the tables on you, guys,
Speaker 4: because the best way to do it is to follow
Speaker 4: the strength of the US dollar. Where is the US
Speaker 4: dollar strongest against foreign currencies? So South Africa unbelievable, Argentina unbelievable, Turkey,
Speaker 4: they continue to devalue their era. The affordability is unbelievable. Right,
Speaker 4: So in terms of cost of living and standard of living,
Speaker 4: So you pick the following places right, cost of living,
Speaker 4: standard living, health care, access to airports right, So you
Speaker 4: have options right and not to drive on the wrong
Speaker 4: side of the road. Other than that, you take your choice.
Speaker 4: And there are a lot of countries that do that.
Speaker 4: So I read that the top countries are UK, Mexico.
Speaker 4: More Americans are second homes in Mexico than anywhere else
Speaker 4: in the world.
Speaker 1: No, that that shocks me.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that really shocks me. Why well, and I believe me.
Speaker 4: I know.
Speaker 5: I'm I'm acting from ignorance, and I've been to Mexico
Speaker 5: and I had a wonderful time.
Speaker 1: Marking is that the name of the new show Acting
Speaker 1: from Ignorant? Acting from it's the name of my book.
Speaker 1: By the way, that is not.
Speaker 5: I my What we hear all the time coming out
Speaker 5: of Mexico is gangs and drugs and lawlessness and so
Speaker 5: and I know people that are afraid to go to
Speaker 5: the high end resorts.
Speaker 4: Because listen to this. Don't get me started on State
Speaker 4: Department advisories. They're misleading, they're wrong, and they paint with
Speaker 4: too broad a brush. Right, all those years that Northern
Speaker 4: Ireland was getting blown up, there's not a single State
Speaker 4: Department advisory there. But you couldn't go to Israel, right,
Speaker 4: So then something happened that was called pan am one
Speaker 4: O three December twenty first night, teen eighty eight, and
Speaker 4: the US Embassy in Helsinki received credible information four days
Speaker 4: before that they were going to blow up a US
Speaker 4: flag carrier in the next four days. What did the
Speaker 4: US embassy do? Who did they tell? They only told
Speaker 4: other US embassy personnel. Don't they work for US? So
Speaker 4: those two hundred and fifty nine people on the plane
Speaker 4: never had a chance. They went down. And when that
Speaker 4: news came out that the embassy didn't actually share that information,
Speaker 4: the needle went all the way over. And then if
Speaker 4: an American tore a fingernail in Peru. They issued a
Speaker 4: State Department advisory, right, right, you know what the State
Speaker 4: Department advisories for Turkey. Americans are warned that Turkish drivers
Speaker 4: passed on the left and the right.
Speaker 1: Have they been on the four or five? Is that right?
Speaker 1: I mean right?
Speaker 4: So you have to interpret these differently. Right, So for
Speaker 4: your friends, don't want to go to Mexico. There are
Speaker 4: thirty two states in Mexico. How many of them are
Speaker 4: vacationing in Nuevo Laredo or Ciudad Juarez. The only people
Speaker 4: vacation there are vacationing American drug dealers.
Speaker 1: Don't go.
Speaker 4: You want to go to can Koon or Tuloom, or
Speaker 4: you want to go to Puta by Art or Kapas
Speaker 4: on Lucas, No problem there you go, look.
Speaker 1: At you can I get into some amazing things.
Speaker 5: This is the one thing before you get into amazing
Speaker 5: I don't want to play. Because you asked about countries,
Speaker 5: which are the ones to explore, which are the ones
Speaker 5: to avoid? But what about people who are just trying
Speaker 5: to relocate within the United States?
Speaker 1: Is it?
Speaker 5: Is it a assuming you have the finances to do
Speaker 5: it is it a fairly easy process for people to
Speaker 5: move from state to state, and said it's.
Speaker 4: Easier by the day, and sometimes the catalytic reasons are
Speaker 4: not happy, like the fires here in California. Right, but
Speaker 4: right now the number three and four states one, two,
Speaker 4: three and four where people are moving to will surprise you, right, Tennessee,
Speaker 4: North Carolina, South Carolina, and Nevada.
Speaker 1: The only one. Actually, none of those surprised me.
Speaker 5: Yeah, because I know anecdotally, I know three or four
Speaker 5: people that have made the move to Nashville, two or
Speaker 5: three that has gone to North Carolina, and a ton
Speaker 5: that at least have a second home in Nevada exactly.
Speaker 3: Now, some of that's for tax reasons. So Peter did
Speaker 3: a thing from me years ago. I never forget this.
Speaker 3: It was at first you gave me two tips on
Speaker 3: travel that I'll never forget. One was when you go
Speaker 3: to the airport to the op it's like the opposite
Speaker 3: episode of Seinfeld that you were in. I'm not familiar.
Speaker 3: It's if you're dropping somebody off, drop them off at
Speaker 3: arrival if you're doing and then I pay attention to
Speaker 3: no airport signs.
Speaker 1: So that's that.
Speaker 3: But then the best one go up to the gate
Speaker 3: desk and ask the plane's coming in to pick me up,
Speaker 3: what's the tail number on that plane and where is
Speaker 3: it right now? So if you know that that plane's
Speaker 3: supposed to be here in about twenty minutes and it's
Speaker 3: in Guam, that Peter said, go to the next desk,
Speaker 3: pick up a phone and book another flight. It's never
Speaker 3: getting here and they're not going to change that on
Speaker 3: the board until the last minute.
Speaker 4: And you're not letting Those departure boards have not told
Speaker 4: the truth since the Titanic, right, and they.
Speaker 1: Were lying then to it right more the arrival board
Speaker 1: on that one. But that is not amazing. Let me
Speaker 1: tell you.
Speaker 5: So Peter is sick to death of hearing about my
Speaker 5: cousin Steven, who for.
Speaker 1: Many years I have not heard this. So go ahead.
Speaker 5: When we were we were in Hawaiian, my family and
Speaker 5: I as these fires hit. Yeah, and now flights are
Speaker 5: getting so we get a thing. Your flight is delayed
Speaker 5: two hours, and okay, but please come to the airport
Speaker 5: on time. An hour before we're going to leave the airport.
Speaker 5: They go, your flight is delayed four hours, but definitely come.
Speaker 5: So I now call my cousin the pilot, and I go,
Speaker 5: what's the story. He goes, what flight do you want
Speaker 5: to go? Blah blah blah, and he goes, yeah, your
Speaker 5: flight has not left the tarmac in New York.
Speaker 1: It is nowhere near there.
Speaker 5: And by the way, when you get when and if
Speaker 5: it gets to Maui today, they'll be timed out. That's right,
Speaker 5: crew will not work.
Speaker 4: And he goes, you're not leaving today, right, book flight
Speaker 4: I carry with me and old they still publish this
Speaker 4: something called the OAG stands for Official Airline Guide.
Speaker 1: It's this big.
Speaker 4: It's like the old Sears and Roebuck catalog, right, but
Speaker 4: they have pocket editions. But you couldn't put it in
Speaker 4: your pocket anyway. It lists every published flight in the world.
Speaker 4: I keep it in my carry on bag. I don't
Speaker 4: go on the internet. I don't make the phone call.
Speaker 4: Something's the problem. I just opened the book and I
Speaker 4: know exactly where I'm going. Yeah, because there are secret
Speaker 4: flights everywhere. You don't know that there are plans. There
Speaker 4: are flights out there. Okay, go ahead, No, they are
Speaker 4: flights out now. I'll give you an example. I was
Speaker 4: going between South Paulo and Buenos Aires, pick An airline.
Speaker 1: You think I might have.
Speaker 4: Flown I bery it good idea, Wrong, I'm not okay Turkish?
Speaker 4: Now what the hell is Turkish Airlines doing? Flying between
Speaker 4: South Paulo and Buenos Aires. The secret flight plane starts
Speaker 4: in Istanbul, goes to South Polo, shuttles down to Buenos Aires,
Speaker 4: goes back to Istanbul.
Speaker 1: They have to move the plane. So those are positioning flights.
Speaker 4: But they're called secret flights as they're allowed to take passengers. Okay,
Speaker 4: but so how do you find out about positioning flight
Speaker 4: where they are? There's this time called Peter Greenberg. But
Speaker 4: the thing is, my airfare in business class on a
Speaker 4: brand new Triple seven was our bucks. So because they
Speaker 4: need you could have gone bowling on the plane, right,
Speaker 4: you want to go from New York to Frankfurt. If
Speaker 4: they Liftanza or United Singapore, they fly New York to
Speaker 4: Frankfurt and then continue on to Singapore.
Speaker 1: The best flight ever. Nobody knows. I got to call you.
Speaker 1: You always did before. Yeah, but how does somebody listening
Speaker 1: who doesn't have your number? Our website with the most
Speaker 1: imaginative you have all of those those musicianing plights. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and the name, of course is Peter Greenberg dot com.
Speaker 1: We have a committee on that.
Speaker 4: But the thing is, that's the kind of information they
Speaker 4: don't tell you because they want to sell other seats
Speaker 4: that are going to give them a higher yield.
Speaker 6: This is why we want to do really, really travel
Speaker 6: and we're having a meeting with them right right right, Okay,
Speaker 6: this is exactly him away here the lightning round.
Speaker 3: Some of these may take a little longer answers, but
Speaker 3: this is everybody listening is going to want to know
Speaker 3: every day. How do you keep your luggage from getting lost? Okay,
Speaker 3: there are two kinds of airline bags, carry on and lost.
Speaker 3: We understand that.
Speaker 4: So if you're going to be stupid enough to carry
Speaker 4: to check in a bag, you do two things. Number One,
Speaker 4: you open up the bag and you take a piece
Speaker 4: of big masking tape or guerrilla tape with a big
Speaker 4: indelible magic marker. Put your name and phone number on
Speaker 4: the inside of the bag. Because conveyor belts eat luggage
Speaker 4: tags for breakfast. Okay, that's number one. Number two, I
Speaker 4: love now the air tags. I live for the air tags.
Speaker 4: I've developed an emotional relationship with these air tags. They
Speaker 4: tell me they missed me. I love them.
Speaker 1: They And you know what, you can tell the airline
Speaker 1: where your bag is before the airline even knows. And
Speaker 1: the third thing is who told you where was it?
Speaker 1: In the manual? You had to buy every bag that
Speaker 1: was colored black? Right? Oh no, we switch that up,
Speaker 1: ugliest vomit green and orange for me.
Speaker 3: So tell drip pricing. Explain what that is, and now
Speaker 3: I avoid died if you can drip pricing. Yeah, drip pricing.
Speaker 3: We're living in a world of dynamic pricing right now.
Speaker 3: They change the airfares by the hour, by the second,
Speaker 3: by the minute. And what they're doing is they're going
Speaker 3: to publish a fair that you think is the right fair,
Speaker 3: and the next you know, they're adding other fees that
Speaker 3: you didn't know they were being added. And it's a
Speaker 3: tax dodge, right, So you heard of resort fees at hotels.
Speaker 4: Sure, that's a tax dodge because every city has a
Speaker 4: municipal occupancy tax, highly taxed, so up to twenty one
Speaker 4: percent in some city. So if it's a two hundred
Speaker 4: dollars room, forty those dollars doesn't go to the hotel.
Speaker 1: So how are they going to make that up? Stupid
Speaker 1: resort fee that doesn't get taxes.
Speaker 4: An occupancy tax gets taxes A sales taxes seven percent,
Speaker 4: so the hotel retains more of that. But they're not
Speaker 4: telling you that, right, And what they're not telling you
Speaker 4: is it's all negotiable because they didn't dispose it in
Speaker 4: the first place. So you can have that conversation.
Speaker 5: I could just see me rolling up in the rich
Speaker 5: Culton going on, you ever talked to the manager about
Speaker 5: the drip too?
Speaker 1: But look, if you talk to the manager about that, yeah,
Speaker 1: guess what they write it?
Speaker 4: They take it off. It's negotiable. Wow Okay, no really, Wow,
Speaker 4: that wasn't very decisive.
Speaker 5: Yeah, wow, he doesn't like I'm trying to be sensitively.
Speaker 1: Really, book my phone, not online app sobsolutely everybody watching
Speaker 1: me now and you guys is probably going to do
Speaker 1: their reservations online. They're losers.
Speaker 4: And the reason why they're losers at the belly Yeah, not.
Speaker 5: Only is he, by the way, innovating the show, but
Speaker 5: he's running the shop FORMDIA.
Speaker 4: And the reason is what you're seeing on your screen
Speaker 4: is not all the inventory, right, So what you're seeing
Speaker 4: is the inventory given to that online travel agent by
Speaker 4: the travel provider. How many times have you gone on
Speaker 4: the screen set? Only three seats left? Only two seats left.
Speaker 1: It's a lie.
Speaker 4: It's only three seats left and the allocation they were
Speaker 4: given right. So the bottom line is search online, pick
Speaker 4: up the phone to talk to a human being. It's
Speaker 4: a new concept. But wait now I want to clarify. Yeah,
Speaker 4: so I don't tend to use xpedis and kayaksient.
Speaker 1: That's good.
Speaker 5: If I'm booking on censor, for instance, I go to
Speaker 5: dolf censor dot com. Is that true on that website
Speaker 5: as well? Yeah, I'll give you an example.
Speaker 4: I wanted to go from Elliot to Hawaii and the
Speaker 4: affairs are all like eight hundred and fifty eight bucks
Speaker 4: round trip. Why because I'm the only guy who playe
Speaker 4: not a honeymoon couple. Right, Okay, so how am I
Speaker 4: going to get less money? I called a person otherwise
Speaker 4: known as a travel advisor, and I said, is there
Speaker 4: a better way to do it? She turned the map
Speaker 4: of sit down, and I want La Phoenix, Hawaii for
Speaker 4: three hundred bucks, say five hundred bucks because there was
Speaker 4: more availability in thus lights and that did not show
Speaker 4: up on anybody's screen except hers.
Speaker 1: And you don't mind the extra stop.
Speaker 4: For most people, if you're going to save five hundred
Speaker 4: bucks for another hour on the ground than Phoenix, why
Speaker 4: not How to tell if your room is really clean? Well,
Speaker 4: short of going in there with a black light, the
Speaker 4: point is you need to talk to the housekeeping guys
Speaker 4: right before you even get to the hotel. Just says,
Speaker 4: who's had a housekeeping great? What room am I in?
Speaker 4: Can you please go inspect it? Nobody ever does that.
Speaker 4: Wait a minute, as you're checking in, you're saying what, no,
Speaker 4: not when you're checking in before you even get to
Speaker 4: that city. A lot of times they'll we assigned the rooms.
Speaker 4: By the way, which room do you want? That's the
Speaker 4: key right now. You don't know this, but I'm also
Speaker 4: a fireman in New York. I've been a fireman since
Speaker 4: I'm eighteen. I never stay above the seventh floor of
Speaker 4: any hotel because there's not a fire department in the
Speaker 4: world that can affective up by a fire.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well they stay at the seventh right, that's number one.
Speaker 4: If you stay above the seven floor because you want
Speaker 4: a great view, you get a fabulous view of the
Speaker 4: fire department being unable to reach. So that's the first thing.
Speaker 4: But there are three questions you got to ask before
Speaker 4: you get your room key. Number one, that's number one
Speaker 4: if you stay above the seventh floor because you want
Speaker 4: a great view. You get a fabulous view of the
Speaker 4: fire apartment being unable to reach. So that's the first thing.
Speaker 4: But there are three questions you got to ask before
Speaker 4: you get your room key. Number one, how close is
Speaker 4: my room to the construction because every hotel is in
Speaker 4: a period of renovation, right And if you don't ask
Speaker 4: that question, you have the keys to the Jackhammer suite.
Speaker 1: That's number one.
Speaker 4: Number two, how close is my room to the ballroom
Speaker 4: because at two o'clock in the morning, when the lipshit's
Speaker 4: wedding is over and they're throwing out all the champagne bottles,
Speaker 4: that's what you're gonna hear. And then number three, the
Speaker 4: one that I love the best, and you're looking, I
Speaker 4: know you're gonna look at me with what floors have
Speaker 4: the booster pumps? Ah, no hotel can maintain adequately strong
Speaker 4: water pressure. So what they do is on different floors,
Speaker 4: not also in any floors, just different floors. They'll put
Speaker 4: in a booster pump. You want a room on a
Speaker 4: floor with a booster pump because when you go into
Speaker 4: your bathroom, when you turn it on your shower, it's
Speaker 4: a fire hose.
Speaker 1: You want good water pressure.
Speaker 5: What do you do you care if they book, if
Speaker 5: they put you in the room too close to the elevator.
Speaker 1: All as a fireman, I want to get as close
Speaker 1: to the stairs as they can. The dinging the all
Speaker 1: night doesn't book.
Speaker 4: It depends on the elevator. Right, No, that's not the problem.
Speaker 4: But what you got to do though, Okay, I'm going
Speaker 4: to give you a fire story. Okay, you're in your
Speaker 4: hotel room, it's two o'clock in the morning, and you
Speaker 4: hear the fire alarm go off. What's the first thing
Speaker 4: you do? And you're sleeping?
Speaker 5: I well, if I'm really on my game, I'll put
Speaker 5: on a robin slippers and get ready to get.
Speaker 1: Out of it. Okay, so you're dead, What would you do?
Speaker 1: I called down and say, is this a real alarm?
Speaker 1: Or is somebody tripping on The very first thing you
Speaker 1: do is neither of those things. The very first thing
Speaker 1: you do is you roll out of bed and stay
Speaker 1: on the floor because otherwise the smoke is going to
Speaker 1: kill you. Number one.
Speaker 4: Number two, you go to the door, you crawl to
Speaker 4: the door and you put your hand on the door. Sure,
Speaker 4: if the door is hot, you don't the door. Then
Speaker 4: you go to the bathroom and you get a towel
Speaker 4: and you wet the towel and you put it underneath
Speaker 4: the door so there's no smoke coming in under the door.
Speaker 4: Then you go in the bathroom and you fill the
Speaker 4: bathtub because the bathtub and the steam hot water will
Speaker 4: trap all those toxic particulates that are coming in.
Speaker 1: And then you kiss your askabat and.
Speaker 5: I can't do that in my robin slippers that have
Speaker 5: provided me.
Speaker 4: You stand up first, you won't have to. If you
Speaker 4: stand up first, then it's they's smoking the room. Yeah,
Speaker 4: you'll never get to the over.
Speaker 1: So I've done all of that. And the guy says,
Speaker 1: it was so many trypty alarms and I got a
Speaker 1: bad tumble one here. I got sick. Wow on the
Speaker 1: sixth floor, Yeah, on the sixth floor? Correct? Wow? Wow Wow.
Speaker 1: Is there still a better time to buy air travel
Speaker 1: than not during the week? Yeah?
Speaker 4: When you and I first talked about this, it was midnight,
Speaker 4: one minute after midnight on Tuesday night, like Wednesday morning.
Speaker 4: And the reason for that in those days was that
Speaker 4: airfare wars would start over the weekend and they'd cut
Speaker 4: and match and cut and match, and by Monday they'd
Speaker 4: be at the lowest fair. Right, But then they gave
Speaker 4: you twenty four hours to purchase it in those days,
Speaker 4: so you so all the discount fairs that were purchased
Speaker 4: on Monday, if they weren't purchased by Tuesday, they evaporated,
Speaker 4: came back in the system, and you strike and get them.
Speaker 4: Those days are over because you got to buy them
Speaker 4: when you buy them now when you book them. So
Speaker 4: instead do it Sunday night because the computers get all
Speaker 4: reset on Sunday night.
Speaker 1: Sunday night, call thanks for the room is no Sunday night,
Speaker 1: go online to research then call can I I'm so fascinating.
Speaker 5: Is this just years and years and years of asking
Speaker 5: questions or investigative journalists or because you know the answers
Speaker 5: to questions I didn't know to ask.
Speaker 1: And well, let me tell you how that all happened. Yeah.
Speaker 4: I was a correspondent for music for many years. I
Speaker 4: was the guy with the suitcase in the trunk on
Speaker 4: my car. I was always flying to the scene of
Speaker 4: something right, And so it dawned on me very early
Speaker 4: on that nobody was covering travel and transportation where I
Speaker 4: was living right as news. So what I did was
Speaker 4: I thoroughly inserted myself because I had the access as
Speaker 4: a journalist into the cockpit, into the cabin, into the
Speaker 4: simulators and coast Guard simulator as well for ships. So
Speaker 4: if I can't understand the process, I can't explain it
Speaker 4: to you.
Speaker 1: And so I still do that.
Speaker 4: I still train in the simulators. I used to train
Speaker 4: like six times a year. Now it's like maybe two.
Speaker 4: Why so that and I still care my backtag say
Speaker 4: flight drew on them because I now am I a
Speaker 4: licensed pilot? No, but if you and I are on
Speaker 4: the same plane and both pilots had the fish for
Speaker 4: dinner and it was yeah, And that's happened to me twice.
Speaker 1: What whoa, whoa, whoa.
Speaker 3: Peter green what were we landing the plane?
Speaker 4: No, Peter Greenberg was actually in the cockpit helping them.
Speaker 4: We had a number, well two things that happened to me.
Speaker 4: Once in San Diego and once coming back from Hong Kong.
Speaker 1: Well you'd have to do. Well.
Speaker 4: We were on a flight from it was Cathe Pacific
Speaker 4: from Hong Kong, to LA seven forty seven Max CRO's takeoff,
Speaker 4: everything was full on that plane, full cargo, full fuel,
Speaker 4: full of passengers, and I'm sitting up in the front.
Speaker 4: I also carried a seat in the cockpit, but I'm
Speaker 4: sitting in the seat. And all of a sudden, maybe
Speaker 4: eight minutes into the flight, we're in I mean we're
Speaker 4: in the air. Typhoon comes in. They closed Hong Kong Airport,
Speaker 4: but that's okay because we weren't going back. We're heading
Speaker 4: to LA. However, the woman behind me massive cardiac arrest.
Speaker 4: They asked if there were doctors on board.
Speaker 1: There were two.
Speaker 4: There was a thoracic surgeon from Duke on board and
Speaker 4: there's another doctor from an hospital in England. So they
Speaker 4: later out in the galley. The guys who are not
Speaker 4: knew hours already on the plane. They brought me up
Speaker 4: into the cockpit. So I was now on company radio
Speaker 4: relaying from the company doctors and the surgeons to the
Speaker 4: doctors on the plane in the galley. And then we
Speaker 4: had to dump fuel, about a lot of fuel and
Speaker 4: made an emergency landing in Taipei and they save it.
Speaker 1: Wow. Yeah, And did I get any mileage for that?
Speaker 5: I did not how many times on a domestic flight.
Speaker 1: If I travel.
Speaker 5: Twenty times a year on a domestic flight, how many
Speaker 5: times is there an air marshal on my foot?
Speaker 4: Not many these days. Now, if you're going to Washington, Reagan,
Speaker 4: or you'll see an air marshal, but you won't know
Speaker 4: as you do know. They always here's how you find them.
Speaker 4: They always pre board. They're always sitting in three B
Speaker 4: with their doctors and their fanny packs and reading their
Speaker 4: Tom Clancy novel And you go, oh, hello, mister marshall,
Speaker 4: he's trying to blend.
Speaker 3: You know, what's the hardest airport in the world to
Speaker 3: land in where every time they land the pilot's stinker.
Speaker 1: I'll give you a couldn't put a pin up there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I got.
Speaker 4: Bhutan stuck landing in a salad bowl. And Saint Bart's
Speaker 4: Saint Bart's in the Caribbean. Oh my god, you're landing
Speaker 4: on a roller coaster. It's like you don't get a
Speaker 4: second chance. Oh and the other one is ta goose
Speaker 4: of Golfa. In the Honduras, there are certain airports that
Speaker 4: the airlines will not let their pilots fly it unless
Speaker 4: they've phone copilot like twenty times because it's just she
Speaker 4: oh yeah, but that's every year course different. By the way,
Speaker 4: do accidents happen there more? No, because the pilots are
Speaker 4: still Yeah, that's Phoenix with an approach that takes seven years.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 4: That's where complacency can happen. So it's a balance. So
Speaker 4: the other thing, the other thing is then this happened
Speaker 4: to me. I was in Chicago, and I hate to
Speaker 4: be a putts when I go to a hotel. But
Speaker 4: I flew in and I got there late, and I
Speaker 4: had a reservation, and I'm standing in line it's snowing outside,
Speaker 4: and the guy in front of me is really upset,
Speaker 4: and he said, but I had a room.
Speaker 1: I had a reservation. And guy said, I'm sorry, we're
Speaker 1: booked upcause of the weather. And this went on for
Speaker 1: a while, and the poor guy took his coat and
Speaker 1: went and went out. No. I walked up and said,
Speaker 1: here's the deal. I'm not leaving. I'm not leaving. I
Speaker 1: have a reservation. Not my fault that the plane got
Speaker 1: in late. At a reservation. You have a room.
Speaker 3: Give me that room, because I'm telling you right now
Speaker 3: I'm not leaving. I will stand here as long as
Speaker 3: it takes. And the guy went and got me a room.
Speaker 3: Was that an ask an asked by thing to do?
Speaker 3: Or did they always have her? Because here's fair?
Speaker 1: It wasn't fair.
Speaker 4: Here's what I do. Let's say I show up at
Speaker 4: a hotel. The guy says, I'm sorry, we are completely
Speaker 4: sold out. We have not a single room.
Speaker 1: You have a room booked? Okay, okay.
Speaker 4: Even in that situation, I said, let me ask you
Speaker 4: a question. If the President of the United States were
Speaker 4: coming right now, would you have a room for him. Well, yes,
Speaker 4: just called the White House. He's not coming. I'll take
Speaker 4: his room.
Speaker 1: Now, what he's going to say, it's seventy two thousand dollars.
Speaker 1: What does he do?
Speaker 4: I get the room? I just I just busted him.
Speaker 4: They had a room they hold back there to not
Speaker 4: give you the room in the first place, Well, it depends.
Speaker 4: Remember there's a tear system, there's a cast system. You know,
Speaker 4: some of their mega million mile or travelers. They'll hold
Speaker 4: that room even if it means they'll lose the revenue
Speaker 4: if you don't show up, because they don't want to
Speaker 4: piss you off.
Speaker 3: Is there a nicer way to do it than saying
Speaker 3: the president may be coming, is the vice president? Is
Speaker 3: there a different I.
Speaker 1: Mean no, no, no, you don't. You do not do that? No, no, no.
Speaker 1: The day of the smear is no good. What happened you? Look?
Speaker 1: You go people? Doesn'body drop the fifty? No? Will you
Speaker 1: stop that? No? The bottom line is people don't not
Speaker 1: have the art of conversation.
Speaker 4: Right. You don't show up there, you know, gunning for bear.
Speaker 4: You got to put yourself in their position. But I
Speaker 4: never do what I'm saying where you got there.
Speaker 1: I try and be nice. I wondered if there's a
Speaker 1: way to say, come on, man, it's got to be
Speaker 1: a room in here. You know.
Speaker 4: Well, here's what you do. I'll give you one more
Speaker 4: thing you can say. This happened to me in Cleveland.
Speaker 4: By the way, I show up, No rooms available. This
Speaker 4: is Hopkins Airport. There was a sheriff in there at
Speaker 4: the airport. I said, okay, I'll take an out of
Speaker 4: order room.
Speaker 1: What's it? Out of order room?
Speaker 4: The mirror is cracked in the bathroom, the sinks working, right.
Speaker 4: I just want to bed for the night. I said,
Speaker 4: you know what, I'll even pay the full rate. I'll
Speaker 4: take the out of order room. You sign a waiver.
Speaker 1: You're in.
Speaker 5: I'm not going anywhere without Peter.
Speaker 1: Great, I'm going.
Speaker 3: My next trip is going to be called out of
Speaker 3: order travel. I'm gonna save so much Peter. You're you
Speaker 3: how many miles a year do you do at this point?
Speaker 3: About four hundred and fifty thousand. How often are you home?
Speaker 3: I'm home up there, I mean literally, I live in
Speaker 3: New York and I live in LA. I'll be in
Speaker 3: LA maybe five times a year for four days each.
Speaker 3: I'm in New York probably ten times a year for
Speaker 3: five days each the rest of the time. So what's
Speaker 3: the trick? The jetlike trip? I know that's a jet
Speaker 3: tricky to Japan? How do I beat the jet lights? Okay,
Speaker 3: here's the thing. If you want to sleep on the plane,
Speaker 3: you sleep on the plane. You want to work, watch
Speaker 3: six movies, I don't care. The key is what you
Speaker 3: do when you land. And that's the challenge.
Speaker 1: No matter where I go, no matter what time I land,
Speaker 1: I will stay up until midnight local time.
Speaker 4: That means no heavy lunch. It means I have to
Speaker 4: walk down the street and do shoot hoops whatever. But
Speaker 4: I'm not going to take that nap. If you take
Speaker 4: that nap. When you land, no one will see you,
Speaker 4: including you, for three days, right, and you won't know
Speaker 4: you won't and then you cycle. You'll wake up the
Speaker 4: next morning at six am. You'll see maybe four or
Speaker 4: five hours, and then you do the exact same thing
Speaker 4: on the return flight. Now, I can't say it's going
Speaker 4: to work for you, but that's what I do, and
Speaker 4: it works for me.
Speaker 5: Jerry Seinfeld told me he does not believe.
Speaker 1: In jet lag. I don't believe it's value.
Speaker 5: You think, he said, I got someplace. If I'm tired,
Speaker 5: I lie down.
Speaker 1: I'm not. I keep going. If I can tough it out,
Speaker 1: I tough it out. I don't believe in it, and
Speaker 1: I don't believe in it. Or do a twenty minute
Speaker 1: power nap in the car ride from the airport, but
Speaker 1: don't take the nap. What's the best app that you
Speaker 1: can't live without? In your trow? Flight aware dot Com? Yep,
Speaker 1: got it on my you already as you're in it.
Speaker 1: Yep in the cool that's great because where's my plane? Yeah?
Speaker 1: That's right. You brought you. You're still I'm senior in
Speaker 1: years and you still got you know, you more than
Speaker 1: got it. Can you hit the bell one more time. Yep,
Speaker 1: you bet? Okay, Oh I'm sorry. Remember that game you
Speaker 1: had to hit the first guy to hit the beforehand
Speaker 1: your backhanded right, exactly, go ahead, Peter Greenberg.
Speaker 5: Unbelievable, right, un unbelievable really really no, no, really, God,
Speaker 5: we are where I can see that.
Speaker 1: It's a brand. That's that's thanks for telling what that SuperM.
Speaker 5: So you know what we didn't mention about Peter Greenberg
Speaker 5: and it rankles me.
Speaker 1: Ranks I haven't heard. Yeah, the word wrankle and I
Speaker 1: heard it. Okay, wow.
Speaker 5: He also has an em everybody has an m everybody's
Speaker 5: gonna you have.
Speaker 1: One time, but you have one time, but I have one.
Speaker 1: I have it, But you know the why I haven't?
Speaker 2: You know what?
Speaker 5: They had nothing to do with reality. It was like
Speaker 5: a mercy Emmy, but everybody.
Speaker 1: Daven Google Heeim is our expert resident producer who also
Speaker 1: tells us what we've done wrong, what we've heard, what
Speaker 1: we missed. Did you like Peter Greenberg?
Speaker 7: David, I loved.
Speaker 1: Isn't it great? He's great?
Speaker 5: Let me ask a question, David, if you didn't like
Speaker 5: Peter Greenberg? And he said, did you like Peter Greenberg?
Speaker 5: Would you go, you know I didn't care for him.
Speaker 5: Would you have said that? You know, because you're.
Speaker 1: I'm a master interviewer, and I knew he'd say yes.
Speaker 1: You know, why how could you not like Peter Greenberg?
Speaker 1: Don't be an idiot? That mother would say, don't be
Speaker 1: an idiot? Yeah, all right, so what what? What actually
Speaker 1: do we need to learn?
Speaker 7: Who is the richest expatriot in US hist?
Speaker 1: Okay, I like that. I like that. I don't know, Okay,
Speaker 1: the richest expert. All right, give us a clue. Let's
Speaker 1: see if we can get it.
Speaker 7: I'm going to give you a B, C or D.
Speaker 7: So you you get to you get to okay A
Speaker 7: George Clooney who lives in Brition, France, and Lamo.
Speaker 1: B.
Speaker 7: Pablo Picasso, Paris, France.
Speaker 1: See J.
Speaker 7: Paul Getty Surrey England or D Tom Brady.
Speaker 1: Oh, J Paul Getty. I mean, well, here's what I want.
Speaker 1: I don't get any money way back, and I don't know.
Speaker 1: I guess it could be Brady, but I'm gonna go
Speaker 1: with J. PAULA. Yeah, I don't think.
Speaker 7: Well, it was just one caveat Brady lives in Boston.
Speaker 1: Oh, so it was a fake.
Speaker 7: It was, well, but he's an expatriot of twenty years,
Speaker 7: so I thought that I would.
Speaker 1: Get it at Patriot nice smart ass patriots. Really really
Speaker 1: there even recognis the name Tom Brady? Do you understand travers?
Speaker 5: Minds?
Speaker 1: How didn't really know? Really? Really no? Really? Yeah?
Speaker 7: Ye so but yes, yes, uh, the Peter is correct.
Speaker 7: The real answer, of course is J. Paul Getty.
Speaker 1: Thank you wow, wow, Well of course he was.
Speaker 2: He was.
Speaker 3: He could have paid way, he could have paid for
Speaker 3: the year his grandson's ear, but he didn't.
Speaker 1: Is that get Is that the right? G fan? Go?
Speaker 1: That was J. Paul Getty. That was the ear when
Speaker 1: they kidnapped him when he refused to pay the answer
Speaker 1: used and they cut the ear off.
Speaker 4: Don't you don't you remember that? Yeah, that's funny. You
Speaker 4: spec And now he works at Canters. It's I don't understand, and.
Speaker 3: He goes, what what do you order? It's my good
Speaker 3: side go to the other day. You always have to
Speaker 3: go to the left when you go on to your table.
Speaker 3: I'm still not coming back for a while, David, Thank
Speaker 3: you very much. Peter Greenberg, thank you. Go to Peter
Speaker 3: Greenberg dot com. It's it's he's got all these tips
Speaker 3: that we mentioned, and a mirrored of more like, should
Speaker 3: you sell a faint tape your bag? Not gonna say,
Speaker 3: not gonna.
Speaker 1: On the outside, he said, on the inside. On the outside,
Speaker 1: you know, people wrap their bag and sell it.
Speaker 5: No, but I have got an orange I got an
Speaker 5: orange belt that goes around a belt, a belt.
Speaker 1: I take it through the handle.
Speaker 5: I take it so and that's just so I can
Speaker 5: RecA handle and then I have tape around and.
Speaker 3: If the guy behind the cot needs a belt. Thank
Speaker 3: you for joining us, and really not royally if you
Speaker 3: didn't like it, what did I just say? You if
Speaker 3: you liked it half as much as we like doing it,
Speaker 3: we like doing it quite as much as you like.
Speaker 1: Listen, thank you, Peter Greenberg, say thank you.
Speaker 2: That's another episode of Really you know, Really comes to
Speaker 2: a close. I know you're wondering what countries are most
Speaker 2: American ex patriots immigrating too. Well, I'll share s o
Speaker 2: lugades in a moment, but first let's thank you our guest,
Speaker 2: Peter Greenberg. You can find him at his website Peter
Speaker 2: Greenberg dot com, on Instagram and YouTube. He is at
Speaker 2: Peter Greenberg and on Facebook, he is at Peter Greenberg worldwide.
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Speaker 2: answer to the question what countries are most American expatriots
Speaker 2: immigrating too well, A large number of Americanos choose in Mexico.
Speaker 2: Reasons reported are its proximity to the US warm climate,
Speaker 2: lower cost of living, and beautiful landscapes. Portugal is emerging
Speaker 2: as a big destination for those seeking a European lifestyle
Speaker 2: without the higher costs of other Western European countries it's
Speaker 2: a neighbor. Spain is attractive for similar reasons. Canada is
Speaker 2: still a favorite, again for its proximity, but also for
Speaker 2: its renowned public services, low pollution index, and a reputation
Speaker 2: for safety. Many Americans go down Under to Australia, with
Speaker 2: a strong job market, world class healthcare, and a multicultural society.
Speaker 1: Costa Rica is home to.
Speaker 2: Many relocated Americans who love its natural beauty, low cost,
Speaker 2: and political stability. And rounding out the list are Germany, Singapore, Thailand,
Speaker 2: New Zealand, Netherlands, Greece, Uruguay, and Ireland. If you do
Speaker 2: move and become a dual citizen of the US and
Speaker 2: another country, you still retain the rights to work in
Speaker 2: the US without a visa, You can vote and run
Speaker 2: for office, you can own property in the US, and
Speaker 2: you are still obligated.
Speaker 7: To report for jury duty.
Speaker 2: If, however, you renounce your American citizenship, you lose the
Speaker 2: right to vote or run for office. You lose your
Speaker 2: American passport and any military pensions, but you can potentially
Speaker 2: retain your Social Security benefits and your retirement benefits such
Speaker 2: as pensions and four oh one kids. Perhaps if my
Speaker 2: employers offered any kind of pension or retire ironment benefits.
Speaker 2: I could consider all of this, but for now, I
Speaker 2: guess I'm sticking it out right here. Really no, really
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