1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:02,759 Speaker 1: This week's episode of Cultivating her Space. 2 00:00:03,720 --> 00:00:10,080 Speaker 2: Recognize that our healing starts with noticing and not judging. 3 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:14,360 Speaker 2: A lot of us could spend hours judging ourselves harshly 4 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:16,680 Speaker 2: for some of the things that we've done, or feeling 5 00:00:16,800 --> 00:00:21,280 Speaker 2: shame or embarrassment. But sitting in that does not allow 6 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:26,520 Speaker 2: you to heal, does not allow you to move forward. Hey, lady, 7 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 2: have you ever felt like the world just doesn't get you? Well, 8 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:33,040 Speaker 2: we do. 9 00:00:34,120 --> 00:00:37,840 Speaker 1: Welcome to Cultivating her Space, the podcast dedicated to uplifting 10 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:39,519 Speaker 1: and empowering women like you. 11 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:46,040 Speaker 2: We're your hosts, doctor Dominique Brussard and educator and psychologists. 12 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:48,680 Speaker 1: And Terry Lomax, a techie and transformational speaker. 13 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:54,040 Speaker 2: Join us every week for authentic conversations about everything from 14 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 2: fibroids to fake friends as we create space for black 15 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:01,040 Speaker 2: women to just b. 16 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 1: Before we dive in, make sure you hit that follow 17 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 1: button and leave us a quick five star review. 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I look 28 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:56,800 Speaker 3: forward to hearing from you. Our quote of the day, 29 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 3: Wellness is not a privilege. It is everyone's rights. That 30 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 3: quote comes to you from yours truly, doctor dom and 31 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:10,800 Speaker 3: I will say that one more time for the folks 32 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 3: in the back to make sure that you heard it 33 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 3: and you get into it. Wellness is not a privilege. 34 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 3: It is everyone's rights. 35 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:24,240 Speaker 2: All right, See you ready to jump in. 36 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:25,799 Speaker 1: Let's do it. Let's do it. 37 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 2: So, I mean, you know, you know how I do. 38 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:33,960 Speaker 2: What comes up for you when you hear that quote. 39 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:37,480 Speaker 1: Well, it's funny how this quote came about because we 40 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:39,480 Speaker 1: were talking about this before the episode, lady, and I 41 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:43,480 Speaker 1: was telling Dom how for a long time we're talking 42 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:46,359 Speaker 1: about wellness today, right, the seven dimensions of wellness. And 43 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:48,800 Speaker 1: I was looking at this and I'm like this sounds amazing, 44 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:50,680 Speaker 1: Like all these things sound amazing. And there was a 45 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 1: time in life where I was so in the weeds 46 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:57,480 Speaker 1: surviving this. I had, this shit was not approachable. I 47 00:02:57,480 --> 00:03:00,280 Speaker 1: did not have the privilege, it felt like, and had 48 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 1: the privilege or the capacity to even focus on some 49 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 1: of the stuff. It felt like it was so far 50 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 1: from where I was. But now I'm in a space 51 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:09,120 Speaker 1: where I do. I feel like I do have the 52 00:03:09,160 --> 00:03:12,640 Speaker 1: bandwidth to do to pursue a lot of these to 53 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:15,119 Speaker 1: pursue improving these dimensions. And so that's why I say 54 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:16,840 Speaker 1: comes up for me when I hear and I love that. 55 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:18,360 Speaker 1: You just like came up with it right on the spot. 56 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 1: You're like, uh, oh, there's our quote. I love it. 57 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 1: So what comes up for you when you hear this 58 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:26,079 Speaker 1: quote that you came up with? 59 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 2: Well, I think for me, it comes back to what 60 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 2: you were saying right Like, I found myself immediately reacting 61 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:39,160 Speaker 2: to what you said around wellness being feeling like a 62 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 2: privilege and that you were in survival mode, that you 63 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 2: didn't you were you spent time in survival mode, that 64 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 2: you didn't feel like you could access some of the 65 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 2: things ass and then addressing some of the things that 66 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 2: we're going to talk about today in these different dimensions. 67 00:03:56,360 --> 00:04:01,240 Speaker 2: And so when I heard that. My immediate reaction was absolutely, 68 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 2: the fuck not it is not. Wellness is not a privilege. 69 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 2: It should not be a privilege. Addressing these seven dimensions 70 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 2: of wellness is everyone's human rights. And so then it 71 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 2: got me fired up for this episode to kind of 72 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:24,159 Speaker 2: talk about, like, what are these seven dimensions and the 73 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 2: bonus one that people don't always add or they loop 74 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 2: into other dimensions, and why we all need to address 75 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:40,479 Speaker 2: all of these dimensions and what that can actually look like, 76 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 2: whether you are feeling like you're in survival mode or 77 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:51,119 Speaker 2: you're in that luxurious space of like thriving and every 78 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 2: space in between. 79 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 1: That is so powerful. I love it, and I'm excited 80 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:59,120 Speaker 1: for the conversation, especially because of what is going on 81 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 1: in the world right now. Yes, it's like it's always 82 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:04,919 Speaker 1: been some shit. So lady, today we're talking about self 83 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 1: love through the lens of or talked about this the 84 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:11,120 Speaker 1: seven dimensions of wellness through the lens of self love, 85 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 1: So not the Instagram or trendy version of self love, 86 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:16,800 Speaker 1: but we're breaking it down and we're talking about what 87 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 1: loving yourself looks like across these dimensions of wellness. So 88 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 1: when you think about self love, it isn't one thing, right, 89 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 1: It's how you think, how you care for your body, 90 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 1: how you handle your money, who you let close to you, right, 91 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:30,880 Speaker 1: how you protect your peace. Right. So as you listen, 92 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:33,840 Speaker 1: we want to invite you to notice which area might 93 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:36,479 Speaker 1: need a little more love right now, and which one 94 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 1: have you been maybe neglecting without even realizing it. So 95 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 1: let's jump on in, shall we? 96 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:46,440 Speaker 2: Yes, let's do it now. We know that at Cultivating 97 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:52,240 Speaker 2: her Space podcast, Dr dom is always good for operationalizing 98 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:55,920 Speaker 2: the definition. So let's back up and I'm going to 99 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:58,799 Speaker 2: talk about I can't believe I just talked about myself 100 00:05:58,800 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 2: in the third reference. 101 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 1: To itself the person. 102 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:04,680 Speaker 4: We're here, all right, So it's late at the time 103 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 4: that we were recording this episode, So we're gonna talk 104 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:12,919 Speaker 4: about defining Let's we want to start by defining wellness, right, 105 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:20,719 Speaker 4: and so according to the National Institute of Health, I'm sorry, 106 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:27,480 Speaker 4: National Institute of Wellness, wellness is an active process through which. 107 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 2: People become aware of and make choices toward a more 108 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:37,839 Speaker 2: successful existence. I'm gonna say that again. Wellness is an 109 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 2: active process through which people become aware of and make 110 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:51,719 Speaker 2: choices toward a more successful existence. Now, let's simplify that 111 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:54,240 Speaker 2: a little bit, because I know somebody's gonna hear that 112 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 2: word successful and they might take issue with that. So 113 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 2: let's let's look at a slightly different definition from the 114 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 2: Health Coach Institute. Wellness is about a lifelong commitment to 115 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:16,240 Speaker 2: practicing healthy habits in order to elevate every area of 116 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:19,640 Speaker 2: your life. All right, I'm gonna say that one one 117 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:25,920 Speaker 2: more time. Wellness is about a lifelong commitment to practicing 118 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 2: healthy habits in order to elevate every area of your life. 119 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:36,880 Speaker 1: All right. I love them both. And what I love 120 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:39,400 Speaker 1: about number one is how it kind of breaks the 121 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 1: way my mind processed it when you read it was 122 00:07:42,440 --> 00:07:44,880 Speaker 1: it kind of breaks it up into phases. So it's 123 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:50,119 Speaker 1: an active process through which people become aware of. So 124 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:52,520 Speaker 1: it kind of to me there needs to be a 125 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:57,200 Speaker 1: moment of pausing and reviewing, Like hold up, okay, life 126 00:07:57,280 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 1: might be wild right now. I might feel like there's 127 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:01,280 Speaker 1: so much going on. Let me take a moment, take 128 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 1: a breath, and let me just analyze what's happening. I 129 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:05,920 Speaker 1: like to call it like a snapshot of your life. 130 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 1: It's like taking a picture. You got your phone out, 131 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 1: You're taking a picture, like, let me see what does 132 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 1: everything look like in my life? Right? Taking the picture, 133 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 1: just being aware, we're not judging, we're not posting it 134 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:18,120 Speaker 1: on social media. We're just taking a picture to see 135 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:21,000 Speaker 1: where are we at? Right? And then you make choices, 136 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 1: so it's understanding, Okay, what maybe it's after that. To me, 137 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:25,800 Speaker 1: it's like what do I want? Where do I want 138 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:27,480 Speaker 1: to be? And then we try to figure out what 139 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 1: choices do I need to make to be the bridge 140 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:36,839 Speaker 1: to that place? Right? Yeah? And process? Yeah? Yeah, So Dom, 141 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:39,600 Speaker 1: should we talk about the seven dimensions and then jump 142 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:40,400 Speaker 1: into each one? 143 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:45,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, let's see, let's name them. So our seven dimensions 144 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:57,720 Speaker 2: in no particular order, psychological, spiritual, social, environmental, financial, intellectual, 145 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 2: and physical. And then the bonus one that people sometimes 146 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:08,480 Speaker 2: throw in is professional or vacational. Vocational Sorry vocational. 147 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:10,760 Speaker 1: I want to say I could do vacation. I mean, 148 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:16,680 Speaker 1: Lady Dom said this earlier. But it has been a 149 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:20,000 Speaker 1: very long day for us, and we are doing multiple recordings. 150 00:09:20,040 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 1: So if we're a little sillier than usual, listen, soak 151 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 1: it up. Vibe with us, just like you tell us. 152 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:28,080 Speaker 1: We have so many reviews where ladies are like girl, 153 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 1: I feel like I'm sitting on the couch and y'all 154 00:09:29,679 --> 00:09:32,240 Speaker 1: chilling with me. This is one of those episodes for show. Okay, 155 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 1: so let's get should we get into this, I'm a 156 00:09:34,360 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 1: add vacational to my thinger I go by listen it 157 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:40,720 Speaker 1: needs to be put me on the beach somewhere. Okay. 158 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 1: So psychological wellness. When it comes to psychological wellness, I'm 159 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:49,120 Speaker 1: how would you describe this one before I dive into 160 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:53,959 Speaker 1: any conversation prompts and just reflective prompts for you, lady 161 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:54,559 Speaker 1: as you listen. 162 00:09:55,679 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 2: So I think about the psychological wellness as your emotional 163 00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:08,480 Speaker 2: well being, right that mind your mind body connection. It's 164 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:19,040 Speaker 2: how you understand yourself, how you acknowledge and express all 165 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:22,040 Speaker 2: of the big range of feelings that we all have, 166 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:30,880 Speaker 2: how we cope with life's challenges. And yeah, I think 167 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:35,680 Speaker 2: that's the biggest piece, right, is that our overall You 168 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:39,280 Speaker 2: might hear people say your overall emotional wellbeing, that to me, 169 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:44,400 Speaker 2: that's a part of that's a part of the psychological wellness, okay. 170 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:48,360 Speaker 1: And some of the questions we can ask ourselves around 171 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:52,160 Speaker 1: where we are with psychological wellness might be what were 172 00:10:52,160 --> 00:10:55,480 Speaker 1: you taught about emotions growing up. Were you allowed to 173 00:10:55,520 --> 00:10:59,160 Speaker 1: feel or were you told to be strong, quiet, grateful, 174 00:10:59,559 --> 00:11:01,079 Speaker 1: unbuy or something else. 175 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:05,080 Speaker 2: Yes, I think that's a great question because it allows 176 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 2: you to do an assessment, right, Like, like you said, 177 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:11,199 Speaker 2: I like that word the snapshot right of what were 178 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:14,680 Speaker 2: the Yeah, what were the messages that you received? Because 179 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:19,120 Speaker 2: those messages more than likely if you haven't done the work, 180 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:23,800 Speaker 2: the healing work, those messages are currently impacting you now 181 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 2: and how in your overall physical, psychological your overall psychological wellness. 182 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:33,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, I'm just taking that in. I'm like, okay, 183 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:35,960 Speaker 1: imagine what does that look like in action? But I'm 184 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:38,280 Speaker 1: sure we can dive deeper into that in just a bit. 185 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:42,760 Speaker 1: What happens in your inner world when you're overwhelmed? This 186 00:11:42,840 --> 00:11:44,120 Speaker 1: might be a good place to dive into it. What 187 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:47,760 Speaker 1: happens to your inner world when you're overwhelmed or frustrated 188 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:50,920 Speaker 1: or angry. I'm thinking about just processing emotions in general. 189 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:55,000 Speaker 1: Do you get softer with yourself? A more critical? Yeah? 190 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 1: Like what examples? 191 00:11:57,559 --> 00:12:00,800 Speaker 2: Yeah? So here's the thing. Oftentimes when people ask us 192 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:03,320 Speaker 2: this question of what happens in your inner world when 193 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:06,640 Speaker 2: you are and they name an emotion, usually it's the 194 00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:12,160 Speaker 2: emotions you just named, like overwhelmed, anger, frustrated, Right, But 195 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:17,920 Speaker 2: people don't often ask and want you to assess, well, 196 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 2: what do you do what happens in your inner world 197 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:27,760 Speaker 2: when you feel joy, when you feel excitement, ecstasy, like 198 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:33,160 Speaker 2: all of the things that are typically associated with quote 199 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:38,439 Speaker 2: unquote positive emotions. Right, So, because I think it's important 200 00:12:38,520 --> 00:12:41,920 Speaker 2: to look at that as well and ask yourself that 201 00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:46,880 Speaker 2: same follow up part of the question. When you feel ecstatic, 202 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:51,719 Speaker 2: do you get softer with yourself? Do you relish in it? 203 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:55,320 Speaker 2: Or do you become critical and try to move. 204 00:12:55,120 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 1: Out of it? Okay, I love that you pointed that 205 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:01,360 Speaker 1: out down because any one for Philly who's listening, it's 206 00:13:01,360 --> 00:13:03,280 Speaker 1: gonna know what I'm talking about. And don let me 207 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:05,559 Speaker 1: know if that you had something that was similar to 208 00:13:05,640 --> 00:13:09,080 Speaker 1: this where you were growing up. So, when I moved 209 00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:12,360 Speaker 1: from San Diego, right in a predominantly white area, when 210 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:14,240 Speaker 1: I like bright after nine eleven to Philly and I 211 00:13:14,280 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 1: went to Philly Public School, right I my family used 212 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:18,680 Speaker 1: to always tease me and say, you sound like a 213 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:21,360 Speaker 1: valley girl, and I just had a different vibe from 214 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:23,560 Speaker 1: the people who I was in school with. Right. So, 215 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:25,680 Speaker 1: one of the things that people. I don't even know 216 00:13:25,679 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 1: if they still say it, but people in Philly would 217 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:30,880 Speaker 1: say if you were like too excited about something or 218 00:13:30,920 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 1: you were just like someone thought you were doing too much, 219 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:35,040 Speaker 1: it could even be a good thing. Like I'm definitely 220 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:37,160 Speaker 1: a description of this. What they would say, and what 221 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:39,680 Speaker 1: they would say is you joeishit like if you're doing 222 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:41,800 Speaker 1: too much, like you too, you walk in you just 223 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:45,080 Speaker 1: you know how sometimes our people we can criticize someone 224 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:47,920 Speaker 1: for like being too excited, or you look at somebody 225 00:13:48,040 --> 00:13:50,680 Speaker 1: like yo, as you were happy, like you just happyest 226 00:13:50,679 --> 00:13:52,240 Speaker 1: shit today and it's like, damn you saying it like 227 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:55,160 Speaker 1: it's a like it's a bad thing. A jab. But 228 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:56,920 Speaker 1: that reminds me of that statement, and I love that 229 00:13:56,960 --> 00:13:59,520 Speaker 1: you pointed that out because that's something to evaluate, like 230 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:02,960 Speaker 1: when you when you feel joy, when you accomplish something, 231 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:05,960 Speaker 1: are you judgmental? Oh it's not enough, Oh I got 232 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:07,440 Speaker 1: to move on to the next thing, or I don't 233 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:09,280 Speaker 1: want to share it with anyone. Those are all really 234 00:14:09,640 --> 00:14:13,679 Speaker 1: important narratives to yes, the process. That's what it made 235 00:14:13,679 --> 00:14:16,040 Speaker 1: me think of. So you she said that you joey shit. 236 00:14:17,280 --> 00:14:18,280 Speaker 1: Have you ever heard that before? 237 00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:20,960 Speaker 2: I have not heard that, so that is definitely a 238 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 2: regional thing. I have not heard that. 239 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:23,480 Speaker 1: It's so funny. 240 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:27,560 Speaker 2: And so the next question that you could ask yourself 241 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:31,920 Speaker 2: in terms of assessing your psychological wellness is when something 242 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:36,040 Speaker 2: doesn't go the way you planned, what's the first thing 243 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:39,320 Speaker 2: you usually tell yourself or the first thing you do? 244 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:44,160 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, right, go ahead? 245 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:46,440 Speaker 1: Can we talk examples real quick? Because I'm thinking like 246 00:14:46,520 --> 00:14:50,400 Speaker 1: a date, a date canceled or they don't respond or 247 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:53,640 Speaker 1: something like that, or like a job, the job doesn't 248 00:14:53,680 --> 00:14:55,880 Speaker 1: get back to you. What other scenarios come up for you, dom, 249 00:14:55,880 --> 00:14:58,880 Speaker 1: because those were the first teo that came up you. 250 00:14:58,800 --> 00:15:02,040 Speaker 2: Were planning to you had. I'm just thinking about a 251 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:05,000 Speaker 2: previous episode that we an earlier episode that we recorded. 252 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:13,760 Speaker 2: You have this morning routine and something happens that pulls 253 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 2: you out of that routine, right like, and you've been 254 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:20,680 Speaker 2: consistent with this routine whatever, like, but something pulls you 255 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:24,120 Speaker 2: out of that routine. What do you tell yourself? Right? 256 00:15:24,840 --> 00:15:26,280 Speaker 5: How do you respond? 257 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:27,960 Speaker 1: That's a good one. 258 00:15:28,280 --> 00:15:34,080 Speaker 2: Yes, So then so then the next question, what emotional 259 00:15:34,400 --> 00:15:41,720 Speaker 2: pattern are you unlearning right now? So I can think 260 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:48,680 Speaker 2: about oftentimes the emotional patterns that people are trying to 261 00:15:48,760 --> 00:15:55,680 Speaker 2: unlearn are the ones that are anxious, Like, it's about anxiety, 262 00:15:56,280 --> 00:16:05,760 Speaker 2: and it's about how do I not go into feeling overwhelmed? 263 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:10,120 Speaker 2: Going back to that previous question, when something doesn't go 264 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:19,040 Speaker 2: as planned right? How do I not go into frustration 265 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:28,200 Speaker 2: when someone says something to me that I don't like? 266 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:30,320 Speaker 5: Right? 267 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:36,760 Speaker 2: How do I get out of those feelings of impatience 268 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:43,320 Speaker 2: when things are not in general moving in the way 269 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:44,320 Speaker 2: that I want them to. 270 00:16:45,800 --> 00:16:49,240 Speaker 1: Yes, those are so good, And I think I want 271 00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:51,360 Speaker 1: to emphasize this before we get into the takeaways for 272 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:55,800 Speaker 1: a psychological wellness. And it's said, this is not a reason, 273 00:16:55,960 --> 00:16:58,000 Speaker 1: it's not a space, it is not an opportunity to 274 00:16:58,080 --> 00:17:01,160 Speaker 1: judge yourself. We are literally just analyzing where we are 275 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:04,000 Speaker 1: and taking a snapshot, because when you think about it, 276 00:17:04,080 --> 00:17:06,600 Speaker 1: we as black people, as black women, we have so 277 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:09,720 Speaker 1: much on our play already. I forgot the word that 278 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:12,600 Speaker 1: I forgot the word that our previous guests talked of. 279 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:15,320 Speaker 1: What she said, state it down. Was it not toxic? 280 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:19,200 Speaker 1: Was it toxic? Overload toxic? Loaw toxic? And we're overloaded 281 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:21,680 Speaker 1: with so much when you think about racism and then 282 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:24,000 Speaker 1: family dynamics and all that we do, just all that 283 00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:25,960 Speaker 1: we do in the world, and so it don't judge yourself. 284 00:17:26,040 --> 00:17:28,159 Speaker 1: Just take a moment and analyze, like, Okay, this is 285 00:17:28,200 --> 00:17:30,800 Speaker 1: where I am is information. I'm just gonna emphasize that 286 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:33,200 Speaker 1: because I used to just be judging myself all the time. 287 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:36,720 Speaker 1: So jess those son, No, I. 288 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:39,080 Speaker 2: Was just gonna say that, like that is I think 289 00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 2: that that is important. This suspending the judgment right, which 290 00:17:43,720 --> 00:17:46,639 Speaker 2: which leads us into one of our takeaways, is to 291 00:17:48,359 --> 00:17:54,680 Speaker 2: recognize that our healing starts with noticing and not judging. 292 00:17:55,960 --> 00:17:59,199 Speaker 2: We could a lot of us could spend hours judging 293 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:02,000 Speaker 2: ourselves hardly for some of the things that we've done, 294 00:18:02,119 --> 00:18:06,560 Speaker 2: or feeling shame or embarrassment. But sitting in that does 295 00:18:06,600 --> 00:18:08,879 Speaker 2: not allow you to heal, does not allow you to 296 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:12,600 Speaker 2: move forward. And so what's important to start that healing 297 00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:18,480 Speaker 2: process is to notice what is coming up, to acknowledge 298 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:20,000 Speaker 2: what is happening. 299 00:18:20,680 --> 00:18:24,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, I love that, and I think that goes back 300 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:26,639 Speaker 1: to what we were saying as well, that feelings are information. 301 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:30,720 Speaker 1: It's not always a problem to fix. It's just okay, 302 00:18:31,080 --> 00:18:34,960 Speaker 1: oh that's what I do. I do this. Okay. That 303 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:36,840 Speaker 1: that can literally be the thought, that can be the 304 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:39,480 Speaker 1: conversation with the yourself for now, right, and then we 305 00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:41,240 Speaker 1: can talk about what you may want to do in 306 00:18:41,240 --> 00:18:45,600 Speaker 1: the future, but right now, it's just okay, I'm observing, yes. 307 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:50,720 Speaker 2: And then this next one is one that I think 308 00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:58,159 Speaker 2: people don't. People underestimate that you don't need to be 309 00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:03,679 Speaker 2: in have being a quote unquote nervous breakdown or a 310 00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:06,480 Speaker 2: crash out or a crash out to use it in 311 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:11,040 Speaker 2: the young people's words these days, right, you don't. You 312 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:15,639 Speaker 2: don't have to be experiencing that to get help, to 313 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:21,600 Speaker 2: get support, and whether that support is professional help or 314 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:27,479 Speaker 2: the support of friends and family or other spaces, you 315 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:30,679 Speaker 2: don't need to be in the midst of a breakdown, 316 00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:35,480 Speaker 2: midst of a crisis in order to get support. 317 00:19:37,280 --> 00:19:39,119 Speaker 1: And going back to what you said, Dom, you deserve 318 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:42,680 Speaker 1: support at all levels and in all seasons, whether it's 319 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:46,440 Speaker 1: something positive you're celebrating or if you are listen, sometimes 320 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:48,320 Speaker 1: we crash out and if you having a crash out, 321 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:50,119 Speaker 1: you deserve support there too, But you deserve it in 322 00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:53,000 Speaker 1: all of the seasons that you're in, right, not just that. 323 00:19:53,359 --> 00:19:55,679 Speaker 1: And then the last thing kind of just grounds this 324 00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:58,960 Speaker 1: whole conversation around psychological wellness and it's pay attention to 325 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:02,920 Speaker 1: how you talk to yourself about yourself. That is so 326 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:06,600 Speaker 1: important and something I used to always tell myself when 327 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:08,520 Speaker 1: I was on this like deep in my healing journey 328 00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:10,840 Speaker 1: of like peeling back the layers of trauma, was what 329 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:13,400 Speaker 1: I say what I'm saying to myself to a friend. 330 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:15,520 Speaker 1: And usually I'd be like, I would never I would 331 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:17,199 Speaker 1: never say the thing I'm saying in my head to 332 00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:19,240 Speaker 1: a friend. And so that gave me an opportunity to 333 00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:22,679 Speaker 1: analyze it and then work on a plan to update 334 00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:23,480 Speaker 1: that narrative. 335 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:30,920 Speaker 2: I love that. So now let's move on to spiritual wellness. 336 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:37,720 Speaker 2: And so when we when we think about spiritual wellness, 337 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:46,600 Speaker 2: spiritual wellness is more centered around how your relationship with 338 00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:54,639 Speaker 2: finding meaning and purpose in life, which is guided by 339 00:20:54,680 --> 00:21:00,440 Speaker 2: your personal values. And for a lot of people, spiritual 340 00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:07,880 Speaker 2: wellness comes down to some people equated with religion, some 341 00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:14,200 Speaker 2: people equated with looking at something larger than themselves, right, 342 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:18,520 Speaker 2: and how they connect to the world. And I want 343 00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:21,720 Speaker 2: to be clear that for each of us, spiritual wellness 344 00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:28,560 Speaker 2: will look different. But again it's how we make meaning 345 00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:35,560 Speaker 2: and how we find purpose in our life, guided by 346 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:37,280 Speaker 2: our values. 347 00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:40,680 Speaker 1: I love this overview dom and I love the emphasis 348 00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:45,399 Speaker 1: on it being guided by someone's personal values, because I've 349 00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:49,160 Speaker 1: seen in a lot of usually it's more religious spaces 350 00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:53,040 Speaker 1: where people are again judgmental, we have that word again, judgmental, 351 00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:56,000 Speaker 1: but also try to be very prescriptive, like everybody has 352 00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:59,880 Speaker 1: to do this this way, and we all have different journeys, right, 353 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:02,359 Speaker 1: different for in different phases of our journeys. And so 354 00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:05,440 Speaker 1: I think it's just important to realize that whatever spiritual 355 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:07,880 Speaker 1: wellness looks like for you, or whatever your spiritual practices are, 356 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:10,320 Speaker 1: they are yours. They're sacred. You don't have to share 357 00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:12,960 Speaker 1: them with everyone. It's not everyone's business, like that is 358 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:17,240 Speaker 1: your personal that's your personal journey, right. And so a 359 00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:19,520 Speaker 1: couple of questions that you can ask yourself when it 360 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:21,720 Speaker 1: comes to spiritual wellness are where do you find meaning 361 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:24,760 Speaker 1: when life feels heavy? Again, especially in these times that 362 00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:28,640 Speaker 1: we're now, spiritual wellness is extremely important, right, Like where 363 00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:30,680 Speaker 1: do you find meaning? And then how do you stay 364 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:34,000 Speaker 1: connected to yourself during chaotic seasons? 365 00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:37,240 Speaker 2: Yes, I love those questions because again it goes back 366 00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:42,520 Speaker 2: to tapping into how do you find connections to things 367 00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:48,159 Speaker 2: bigger than you outside of you? And I think the 368 00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:52,199 Speaker 2: thing to take away because again, and I want to 369 00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:56,040 Speaker 2: acknowledge that we're spending less time in the spiritual wellness 370 00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:59,800 Speaker 2: realm than we did in the psychological wellness realm because 371 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:07,440 Speaker 2: this is so deeply personal and we are not spiritual 372 00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:11,600 Speaker 2: wellness experts. This is not, at least for me, this 373 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:14,879 Speaker 2: is not this is guiding someone in their spiritual wellness 374 00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:18,440 Speaker 2: is not my area of expertise. But what I can 375 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:20,680 Speaker 2: say from that is that what you want to take 376 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:25,400 Speaker 2: away from this, and as you are trying to assess 377 00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:30,119 Speaker 2: and address your spiritual wellness, it's important for all of 378 00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:35,880 Speaker 2: us to have a grounding ritual. And again that's individual 379 00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:40,280 Speaker 2: to you, based on your own faith and your own practices. 380 00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:44,280 Speaker 2: So for some people that looks like prayer, For some 381 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:50,000 Speaker 2: people that's meditation. Others find it in journaling, and a 382 00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:52,760 Speaker 2: growing number of us find it in nature. And we'll 383 00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:56,080 Speaker 2: talk more about nature and when we talk about environmental wellness. 384 00:23:57,320 --> 00:24:02,240 Speaker 2: But again, the key is that whatever your grounding ritual is, 385 00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:06,720 Speaker 2: it is what truly grounds you. 386 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:10,399 Speaker 1: That's right, And I yeah, I would also say one 387 00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:11,639 Speaker 1: of the things that comes up for me when it 388 00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:14,320 Speaker 1: comes to spiritual wellness is if you don't have something 389 00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:17,080 Speaker 1: in place it'd be a great time to explore, like, 390 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:19,520 Speaker 1: try different things and see what works for you. So 391 00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:21,520 Speaker 1: I think, kind of leading on to what Dom said, 392 00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 1: we're not experts in this particular space. However, we can 393 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:27,240 Speaker 1: offer perspective and we can offer experience. You can take 394 00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:30,320 Speaker 1: what resonates and leave the rest right. So another takeaway 395 00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:33,840 Speaker 1: here would be trusting your intuition. We all have a 396 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:37,399 Speaker 1: direct line to the creator, like we all have that 397 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:39,800 Speaker 1: power within That is my belief at least, and so 398 00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:43,040 Speaker 1: you can tap into your intuition. Get quiet. I think 399 00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:46,479 Speaker 1: solitude can be so important for us if we're still 400 00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:49,520 Speaker 1: enough for long enough and we wait to hear something 401 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:51,800 Speaker 1: or at least see what comes up for us, I 402 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:55,000 Speaker 1: think that can be powerful. And then allowing the spirituality 403 00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:57,280 Speaker 1: to evolve with us along the journey. I think many 404 00:24:57,280 --> 00:24:59,639 Speaker 1: of us have had evolutions of what we believe to 405 00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:01,920 Speaker 1: be true, what our values are, and. 406 00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:05,560 Speaker 2: It changes over time and that's okay, yep, and that 407 00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:10,520 Speaker 2: is okay. We can't emphasize that enough that it's okay. 408 00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:14,560 Speaker 2: And so now that takes us to our next dimension, 409 00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:21,640 Speaker 2: which is social wellness. So social wellness is about your 410 00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:31,080 Speaker 2: connection to the people around you and whether that's immediate, 411 00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:36,240 Speaker 2: whether that's larger global community or somewhere in between. Your 412 00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:40,040 Speaker 2: social wellness is about how you connect with other people, right, 413 00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:48,360 Speaker 2: and so it's about your ability to maintain loving relationships 414 00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:55,520 Speaker 2: with family, friends, co workers. And for black folks, I 415 00:25:55,520 --> 00:26:00,880 Speaker 2: mean for everybody, but for black women in particular. There 416 00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:09,600 Speaker 2: is so much healing that happens in community when when 417 00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:13,840 Speaker 2: you get a group of black women together and we've 418 00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:17,240 Speaker 2: seen it, We've seen where people we've seen it where 419 00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:20,760 Speaker 2: people have had taken issue with it, right, Like where 420 00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:23,240 Speaker 2: you have a group of black women and they are 421 00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:26,480 Speaker 2: out and they are laughing and having a great time, 422 00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:31,440 Speaker 2: right despite all the shit that's happening in the world 423 00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:35,960 Speaker 2: around us, despite whatever things they might be dealing with 424 00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:40,320 Speaker 2: on an individual basis, that group of women is sitting 425 00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:45,439 Speaker 2: there and they are having the biggest laughs ever, and 426 00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:48,480 Speaker 2: people around them don't seem to understand it, and some 427 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:53,240 Speaker 2: people even try to punish them for it. But the 428 00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:57,359 Speaker 2: healing that is taking place in that moment, through that laughter, 429 00:26:57,480 --> 00:27:01,240 Speaker 2: through that connection with all the black women who look 430 00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:07,920 Speaker 2: like them, that level of healing is invaluable. 431 00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:13,240 Speaker 1: It is immeasurable, it really really is. And I'm happy 432 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:16,560 Speaker 1: that we're not confined to our homes. We were talking 433 00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:20,400 Speaker 1: about the twenty twenty where we couldn't leave the house 434 00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:21,880 Speaker 1: right before. I think we talked about that right before 435 00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:24,119 Speaker 1: the episode, and I'm just so happy that we do. 436 00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:26,080 Speaker 1: We we're in a space where we were able to 437 00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:28,920 Speaker 1: commune and have that community because it's so important, and 438 00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:31,440 Speaker 1: it also especially when you're in the right community. I 439 00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:34,560 Speaker 1: think sometimes people hear oh community or you're in a group, 440 00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:37,320 Speaker 1: and some people based on past experiences and may bring 441 00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:39,119 Speaker 1: up some anxiety. You may be like, oh my gosh, 442 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:41,480 Speaker 1: but I mean, imagine a space if you don't have like, 443 00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:44,760 Speaker 1: imagine a space where it's ideal community, people who get 444 00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:48,000 Speaker 1: you right, people who support you, it's positive odds, good energy. 445 00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:50,080 Speaker 1: And some of the questions you can ask yourself around 446 00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:53,919 Speaker 1: social wellness in general are how have your relationships changed? 447 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:57,040 Speaker 1: If you've grown, how have they changed? Right? Are there 448 00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:58,840 Speaker 1: some people that you've had to let go of? Some 449 00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:02,439 Speaker 1: people who you just outgrew? Nothing bad towards them, you know, 450 00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:05,480 Speaker 1: no ill feelings, but you just outgrow some people. And 451 00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:08,520 Speaker 1: then what does loving yourself look like? And the people 452 00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:12,119 Speaker 1: you allow to access you. I'm gonna read that what 453 00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:14,400 Speaker 1: we're tilling because that that's a deep one right there. 454 00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:19,040 Speaker 1: What does loving yourself look like in the people you 455 00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:23,840 Speaker 1: allow access to you? Oh? 456 00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:27,199 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. Even hearing it the second time, I'm like, 457 00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:30,280 Speaker 2: ooh that just listen deep. 458 00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:32,200 Speaker 1: What comes up for you when you hear that, because 459 00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:35,080 Speaker 1: that's a very great indicator on a lot of thanks. 460 00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:38,240 Speaker 2: Yes it is, And I think what comes up for 461 00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:41,680 Speaker 2: me is you know, one of the one of the 462 00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:45,120 Speaker 2: biggest buzzwords right now is about boundaries, right, is like, 463 00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:50,000 Speaker 2: what boundaries do you need? What boundaries are you setting 464 00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:54,840 Speaker 2: and upholding with the people who you interact with? 465 00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:56,360 Speaker 3: Right? 466 00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:59,520 Speaker 2: Because that is how to me, that is one of 467 00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:04,640 Speaker 2: the biggest demonstrations of how you love yourself in relation 468 00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:11,040 Speaker 2: to other people is knowing. First, it's being able to 469 00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:14,440 Speaker 2: identify what it is that you want and need in 470 00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:20,200 Speaker 2: your interpersonal relationships. And then two then it's about setting 471 00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:23,920 Speaker 2: the boundaries and upholding the boundaries as you were interacting 472 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:24,800 Speaker 2: with other people. 473 00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:28,240 Speaker 1: Yes, aping to that, you hit the nail on the head. 474 00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:35,040 Speaker 6: This is Rod and Karen from the Blackouts podcast. We're 475 00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:37,719 Speaker 6: a husband and wife duo who make a comedy podcast 476 00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:42,680 Speaker 6: about sports, pop culture and everything like that. Annoying checkout 477 00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:45,600 Speaker 6: lady at the grocery store, you go too with the glasses. 478 00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:49,360 Speaker 7: She just randomly keeps asking us what y'all eat for dinner? 479 00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:51,959 Speaker 7: We would we we wouldn't even in the line. We 480 00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:53,800 Speaker 7: were just walking around the store, and she's like, what 481 00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:54,680 Speaker 7: y'all ain't for dinner? 482 00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:57,520 Speaker 1: I thought, what, ma'am? 483 00:29:58,200 --> 00:29:59,640 Speaker 2: Don't get it wrong with you. 484 00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:04,240 Speaker 6: Yeah, she'd be violating hard because that aren't that one cashier. 485 00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:09,000 Speaker 6: She started talking to other people about my groceries. I'm like, what, Like, 486 00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:11,480 Speaker 6: it's other people involved in this transaction now or this 487 00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:14,200 Speaker 6: is just between us. She's like, oh, girl, come over here. 488 00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:16,360 Speaker 6: They got the Buffalo Chicken dial Like, what are y'all 489 00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:16,680 Speaker 6: gonna do? 490 00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:19,800 Speaker 7: Open it up, write it, eat it in my face, 491 00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:24,080 Speaker 7: Listen to the black Ayo tips, all the iHeartRadio app, 492 00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:27,000 Speaker 7: Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. 493 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:31,920 Speaker 1: All right, lady, we're gonna take a quick pause to 494 00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:35,280 Speaker 1: share something we genuinely love and are excited to partner with. 495 00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:38,280 Speaker 1: This episode is sponsored by VB Health, and we'll tell 496 00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:41,280 Speaker 1: you why they've officially earned a spot in our wellness rotation. 497 00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:44,880 Speaker 2: All Right, lady, let's talk about vaginal health for a moment. 498 00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:48,760 Speaker 2: Because it's not something we're always giving clear information about. 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When you 518 00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:05,360 Speaker 1: do that, you're gonna feel so much lighter. I did 519 00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:08,240 Speaker 1: go I did that shit recently, and I'm like, I'm 520 00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:10,640 Speaker 1: about to go meet somebody, and why am I dreading it? 521 00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:12,080 Speaker 1: Like and it's not like that, Oh I don't want 522 00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:13,280 Speaker 1: to come out the house, Like I don't even want 523 00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:15,080 Speaker 1: to hang out with you? Then why are we going? 524 00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:16,040 Speaker 1: You know what? 525 00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:16,480 Speaker 2: Why? 526 00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:17,600 Speaker 1: Why? Just why? 527 00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:17,760 Speaker 3: Why? 528 00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:21,800 Speaker 1: This way build community beyond romantic relationships. That kind of 529 00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:23,680 Speaker 1: goes back to what you were sharing dom that is 530 00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:28,080 Speaker 1: super important, like having friendships, having community, having people again 531 00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:30,840 Speaker 1: who get you, who understand, and who you can just 532 00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:33,520 Speaker 1: get energized by, like that group of black women. Oh 533 00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:35,520 Speaker 1: my goodness, it's so powerful. 534 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:40,640 Speaker 2: So powerful. And you know, despite what our westernized society 535 00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:44,920 Speaker 2: tries to push on us, this level of individualism innately, 536 00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:48,200 Speaker 2: as black folks, people of the African diaspora, we are 537 00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:53,120 Speaker 2: we are collectivists, meaning we are a community. We do 538 00:32:53,200 --> 00:33:02,320 Speaker 2: not operate well in silos. We do not thrive alone. 539 00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:07,719 Speaker 2: Now I'm gonna throwing a caveat that. Yes, we we 540 00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:09,840 Speaker 2: we all need a long time. Every single one of 541 00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:13,800 Speaker 2: us needs a long time, even even your seven year 542 00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:17,600 Speaker 2: old who's like, I mean, I want to go to 543 00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:19,240 Speaker 2: my room and I don't want to talk to anybody 544 00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:26,640 Speaker 2: because they need a long time too. But our overall existence, 545 00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:32,440 Speaker 2: our way to have social onmas are part of our thriving, 546 00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:33,000 Speaker 2: part of. 547 00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:41,800 Speaker 5: Our healing requires community, requires us being in loving Let 548 00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:47,280 Speaker 5: me let me also add that part loving communities. 549 00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:54,440 Speaker 2: Yes, if it's not serving you, if you don't feel connected. 550 00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:59,400 Speaker 1: Leave let it go, let it go, get aut of there. Now. 551 00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:04,000 Speaker 1: The next one is environmental wellness. Now, what exactly does 552 00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:08,959 Speaker 1: environmental wellness mean? When you think about the dimensions of wellness. 553 00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:13,520 Speaker 2: So for me, when I think about like environmental wellness, 554 00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:21,240 Speaker 2: environmental wellness is more about our relationship with nature, right, 555 00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:25,480 Speaker 2: two parts. Let me also, let me be clear, it's 556 00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:31,919 Speaker 2: two parts. It's about how we engage with the outside 557 00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:35,480 Speaker 2: world around us, So the air, of the water, the land, 558 00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:39,160 Speaker 2: all of those things that's around us, how we engage 559 00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:46,560 Speaker 2: in that. But also then our environmental wellness is about 560 00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:52,920 Speaker 2: the spaces that we occupy. So whether it's our literal 561 00:34:53,120 --> 00:35:00,080 Speaker 2: home or our workplace, or our school, or our or 562 00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:05,279 Speaker 2: places of worship, our gyms, whatever, it's all of those 563 00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:09,960 Speaker 2: spaces that we find ourselves in. What are those what 564 00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:14,240 Speaker 2: do those spaces look like? How do we not only 565 00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:20,040 Speaker 2: have a positive impact on those spaces, but receive positivity 566 00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:22,799 Speaker 2: from those spaces. 567 00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:26,200 Speaker 1: Yes, that is so good. And the questions you can 568 00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:30,200 Speaker 1: ask yourself about environmental wellness include how does your environment 569 00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:34,080 Speaker 1: impact your mental health? I mean that is the key 570 00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:37,040 Speaker 1: question right there. I mean you think about I'm just 571 00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:39,440 Speaker 1: thinking about spaces. I've gone into down some of the 572 00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:42,120 Speaker 1: spaces you've named, and I don't feel so good afterwards. 573 00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:44,400 Speaker 1: I don't feel so good when I'm there, right, And 574 00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:46,760 Speaker 1: that's something that we should just be aware of and okay, 575 00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:48,520 Speaker 1: making a note of because we may have to shift 576 00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:49,160 Speaker 1: some things up. 577 00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:51,799 Speaker 2: And the next question is what you go to that 578 00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:53,640 Speaker 2: next question. I want to give a couple of other 579 00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:55,960 Speaker 2: examples to think for folks to think about that they 580 00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:57,879 Speaker 2: might not think about when they're when we were thinking 581 00:35:57,920 --> 00:35:59,520 Speaker 2: about environmental health, right. 582 00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:00,279 Speaker 1: Yeah. 583 00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:04,160 Speaker 2: So one of the things that I noticed years ago 584 00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:07,920 Speaker 2: for myself is and this was back when I was 585 00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:11,120 Speaker 2: a full time faculty member, that there were ebbs and 586 00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:15,560 Speaker 2: flows to the course of the academic year, and my 587 00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:23,680 Speaker 2: home environment was always an indicator of where we were 588 00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:29,680 Speaker 2: in the semester, which then had an impact on how 589 00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:34,520 Speaker 2: I thought about things at my stress levels. So start 590 00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:38,720 Speaker 2: of a new school year or a new semester. Everything 591 00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:45,239 Speaker 2: in my home is immaculate. I come and go and 592 00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:48,320 Speaker 2: it stays immaculate, right like you know, make a message, 593 00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:49,879 Speaker 2: clean it up, and you keep like in the moment, 594 00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:53,000 Speaker 2: you clean it up and you keep going right. But 595 00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:55,719 Speaker 2: tip by the end of you can always tell when 596 00:36:55,760 --> 00:37:01,800 Speaker 2: the end of the semester hit because I had papers 597 00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:05,600 Speaker 2: and projects everywhere because it was great. It was like 598 00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:11,399 Speaker 2: deep grading season, and so I was taking a lot 599 00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:21,120 Speaker 2: of things home from work and I felt stressed and disorganized, 600 00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:28,440 Speaker 2: But that was because my space was disorganized. And so 601 00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:31,560 Speaker 2: lady also think so think about that in your home, right, 602 00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:40,640 Speaker 2: pay attention to how you driver, don't depending on what 603 00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:45,120 Speaker 2: your home looks like. But then it also goes beyond that. 604 00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:49,640 Speaker 2: Folks that live in climates that don't experience a lot 605 00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:55,720 Speaker 2: of sun or sunlight, yeah, often have to take extra 606 00:37:55,760 --> 00:38:01,279 Speaker 2: steps to protect their mental health because the vit is 607 00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:06,560 Speaker 2: not one that induces naturally positive emotions. 608 00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:11,000 Speaker 1: I love that you share that dom because even though 609 00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:13,000 Speaker 1: I love to have a clean space and not like 610 00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:16,359 Speaker 1: an aesthetically pleasing environment at home, there are times when 611 00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:17,680 Speaker 1: I'm in the midst that you just maybe think of 612 00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:19,879 Speaker 1: this in the midst of a sprint while I'm working 613 00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:23,279 Speaker 1: on a project and i don't care if the house 614 00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:25,239 Speaker 1: is messy because I'm so focused on what I'm doing. 615 00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:26,560 Speaker 1: It kind of reminds me of what you said about 616 00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:28,680 Speaker 1: the paper. So it's like, I'm actually kind of thriving 617 00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:31,759 Speaker 1: with the mess for in that season because of what 618 00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:34,600 Speaker 1: I'm working on. And so sometimes I think there's this 619 00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:37,640 Speaker 1: there's this desire to tell people, oh, everything has to 620 00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:40,120 Speaker 1: be clean and the entirety. But some people actually may 621 00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:42,600 Speaker 1: function in a different type of They may function and 622 00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:44,560 Speaker 1: like it may either be a what is it what 623 00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:46,880 Speaker 1: they call I know, they say method to your madness, 624 00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:49,040 Speaker 1: but it's like organized chaos or maybe it's not so 625 00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:51,800 Speaker 1: organized chaos. And then it also makes me think about 626 00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:56,640 Speaker 1: challenging spaces. So maybe you're going to the gym and 627 00:38:56,680 --> 00:38:59,840 Speaker 1: you're being challenged and so it's uncomfortable. So it's just 628 00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:01,799 Speaker 1: so an observation. It doesn't have to be oh, you 629 00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:04,640 Speaker 1: know what, my legs hurt? Am I going on? More 630 00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:07,560 Speaker 1: like I'm challenged. I don't like it. That may not 631 00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:10,520 Speaker 1: be it may not be something that you want to stop, 632 00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:12,920 Speaker 1: but it's actually it's positive for you. You know what 633 00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:16,479 Speaker 1: I mean, right, yep, and so do we asked Okay, 634 00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:18,000 Speaker 1: I say that we didn't ask the second question. The 635 00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:20,560 Speaker 1: second question here was what changes have you made to 636 00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:23,080 Speaker 1: feel more piece in your space? So it's something to 637 00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:23,840 Speaker 1: keep in mind. 638 00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:28,680 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, so yeah, what are And I also want 639 00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:31,000 Speaker 2: to acknowledge that, you know, there are a lot of 640 00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:35,240 Speaker 2: folks that are sharing spaces with other people. Nice, yes, 641 00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:40,160 Speaker 2: And so then it becomes a general conversation of what 642 00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:42,799 Speaker 2: do we all need as a unit in this in 643 00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:46,840 Speaker 2: this space to all be able to thrive? 644 00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:51,360 Speaker 1: Yeah. And then some takeaways for this one are decluttering 645 00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:54,479 Speaker 1: physical and digital spaces, and especially if you have space 646 00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:56,279 Speaker 1: that you're sharing with other people, maybe there's like a 647 00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:58,840 Speaker 1: corner that's just for you, you have a little pocket, 648 00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:01,040 Speaker 1: or like Okay, this mine right here, don't nobody come 649 00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:03,120 Speaker 1: over here, don't text this, this is my space if 650 00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:06,200 Speaker 1: you have the ability to do that, spending time outdoors 651 00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:10,560 Speaker 1: when possible, and then creating environments that support calm and clarity. 652 00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:13,719 Speaker 1: And we have episodes that kind of dive deeper into 653 00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:14,279 Speaker 1: this as well. 654 00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:17,080 Speaker 2: Yes, And I want to also say that being in 655 00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:24,360 Speaker 2: nature can be healing. And I say that can be 656 00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:28,160 Speaker 2: healing being in nature, being outside, because I recognize that 657 00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:33,160 Speaker 2: there are some of us who are not in spaces 658 00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:39,840 Speaker 2: where stepping outside feels safe. Yeah, and so and so, 659 00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:43,440 Speaker 2: then this would be a season where part of your 660 00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:48,759 Speaker 2: environmental wellness may be lacking. And so then it's an 661 00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:52,480 Speaker 2: opportunity to then look at like you pointed out Terry, 662 00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:57,000 Speaker 2: like you're in the indoor space, your indoor environment, and 663 00:40:57,040 --> 00:41:01,240 Speaker 2: what can you do to create a space that's just yours, Yes, 664 00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:07,360 Speaker 2: that you can come to for peace, for solace, for respite. 665 00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:11,320 Speaker 1: And then it takes us to our next one, financial wellness. 666 00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:16,320 Speaker 2: Yes, all right. So financial wellness is one that people 667 00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:22,520 Speaker 2: often don't like to talk about, and financial wellness really 668 00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:28,919 Speaker 2: is about understanding your specific financial situation and taking care 669 00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:31,880 Speaker 2: of it in ways that allow you to feel prepared 670 00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:36,200 Speaker 2: if something were to change. Right, and it doesn't matter 671 00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:43,520 Speaker 2: whether you whether you have ten million dollars in the 672 00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:48,640 Speaker 2: bank or you are one thousand dollars in the negative 673 00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:53,640 Speaker 2: in the bank, your financial wellness is something that you 674 00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:57,359 Speaker 2: like having an understanding of that, like if you are 675 00:41:57,400 --> 00:42:02,080 Speaker 2: in the negative one thousand dollars, like understanding why you're 676 00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:05,840 Speaker 2: in the negative, what got you there? What's the plan? 677 00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:08,279 Speaker 2: To get out if there is a plan to get 678 00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:16,439 Speaker 2: out right. And it's about understanding your relationship with your 679 00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:25,200 Speaker 2: finances so that you can make decisions that keep you stable. 680 00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:29,240 Speaker 2: And again that's going to look different for everybody some people. 681 00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:37,600 Speaker 2: Some people are happy with ten thousand dollars a year. 682 00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:44,520 Speaker 2: Other people ten thousand dollars a year is absolutely nothing, 683 00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:48,719 Speaker 2: and they would be miserable. And so it's about figuring 684 00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:50,920 Speaker 2: out what works for you. 685 00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:55,080 Speaker 1: And considering that finances could be such a sensitive topic. 686 00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:57,279 Speaker 1: Just be gentle with yourself when you're talking about this. 687 00:42:57,440 --> 00:42:59,680 Speaker 1: I know I've heard while I'm thinking about my own 688 00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:01,320 Speaker 1: things sperience, but also have heard from a lot of 689 00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:04,040 Speaker 1: other black women. Many of us weren't grown We didn't 690 00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:06,080 Speaker 1: grow up with a lot of knowledge about how to 691 00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:09,479 Speaker 1: manage our money and how to have positive relationships with money. 692 00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:11,800 Speaker 1: And so chances are, even as you make more money, 693 00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:13,840 Speaker 1: you may you may still be making some of the 694 00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:16,160 Speaker 1: same decisions that you made when you were younger, just 695 00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:19,120 Speaker 1: with more money. And so be gentle with yourself when 696 00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:21,799 Speaker 1: you're having this conversation and ask yourself, how is your 697 00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:25,359 Speaker 1: relationship with money evolved, and what does financial self love 698 00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:28,200 Speaker 1: look like? Beyond just making more. 699 00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:30,920 Speaker 2: Right right, because that goes back to your point of 700 00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:37,239 Speaker 2: if you don't understand your relationship with money and your 701 00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:41,480 Speaker 2: decision making regarding money, just because you have more money 702 00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:44,840 Speaker 2: in the bank doesn't mean you're going to be making different, 703 00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:50,160 Speaker 2: different or healthy decisions exactly. And so I think the 704 00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:58,080 Speaker 2: takeaways from that is understanding what your numbers are. Numbers 705 00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:04,719 Speaker 2: are facts, aren't feelings, they are facts, and so look 706 00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:10,080 Speaker 2: at those numbers without any shame, and then set boundaries 707 00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:13,680 Speaker 2: around what you're spending and giving. You know, there are 708 00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:16,880 Speaker 2: some people that don't like to budget at all. But 709 00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:19,960 Speaker 2: depending on what your financial situation is, depending on what 710 00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:26,400 Speaker 2: your numbers look like, you may need tools to help 711 00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:33,080 Speaker 2: you effectively manage those those numbers. And speaking of tools, 712 00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:36,279 Speaker 2: what can be helpful for a lot of us is 713 00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:39,840 Speaker 2: to look at money as a tool and not a 714 00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:44,959 Speaker 2: measure of your worth. Because there a people with two 715 00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:52,080 Speaker 2: dollars in the bank account and are probably the most genuine, authentic, 716 00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:57,919 Speaker 2: kindest people ever, and there could be somebody with two 717 00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:03,680 Speaker 2: million in their bank account and personality is complete trash. 718 00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:07,040 Speaker 1: Okay, and like not abundant at all. You got all 719 00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:10,520 Speaker 1: this money, but you're not abundant. You know, right, that's right, 720 00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:14,719 Speaker 1: all right, lady, we're moving along here to intellectual wellness. 721 00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:17,719 Speaker 1: Don what is intellectual wellness look like? 722 00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:25,480 Speaker 2: So intellectual wellness I want to I want to emphasize it. 723 00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:30,840 Speaker 2: It is not. Intellectual wellness is not about booksmarts. Okay, 724 00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:34,560 Speaker 2: And I know that might sound weird coming from someone 725 00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:39,560 Speaker 2: who works in academia, But intellectual wellness is not about booksmarts. 726 00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:44,720 Speaker 2: Intellectual wellness is about our ability to be to open 727 00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:53,640 Speaker 2: our minds to new ideas and experiences that allow us 728 00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:59,279 Speaker 2: to engage in the learning process, right, And learning is 729 00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:04,799 Speaker 2: not only about you what happens in school. You know 730 00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:08,959 Speaker 2: that that old saying learn something new every day is real. 731 00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:15,279 Speaker 2: That I got my degree a long ass time ago. 732 00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:17,000 Speaker 2: I'm not gonna say to years. I got my degree 733 00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:20,879 Speaker 2: a long ass time my doctorate a long ass time ago, 734 00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:32,360 Speaker 2: and I still prioritize learning something new every single day. Now. 735 00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:35,320 Speaker 2: Do I always make note of the thing, the specific 736 00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:40,080 Speaker 2: thing that I'm learning. Not necessarily, sometimes it gets stored 737 00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:44,320 Speaker 2: in my back pocket for later use. But I prioritize 738 00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:49,839 Speaker 2: learning something new every day because that helps keep me 739 00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:56,840 Speaker 2: my mind active, right, And that is intellectual wellness like 740 00:46:57,000 --> 00:47:02,000 Speaker 2: having an active mind that is engaging and new things, 741 00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:05,160 Speaker 2: new experiences, new information. 742 00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:09,680 Speaker 1: I appreciate that over you so much. That is definitely 743 00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:13,000 Speaker 1: a new perspective for me. Intellectual wellness was a new 744 00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:15,000 Speaker 1: dimension for me. And so I love the way that 745 00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:17,479 Speaker 1: you frame that. I know some people don't like to read. 746 00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:20,000 Speaker 1: I know we do. We appreciate reading. I know some 747 00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:21,759 Speaker 1: people don't, and so I think this just opens it 748 00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:24,160 Speaker 1: up for other people. And some of the questions you 749 00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:27,560 Speaker 1: can ask yourself for intellectual wellness include, how do you 750 00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:31,640 Speaker 1: keep your mind engage without tying everything to productivity? 751 00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:32,160 Speaker 2: Law? 752 00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:33,520 Speaker 1: If that ain't for me? 753 00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:34,000 Speaker 2: Right there? 754 00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:37,200 Speaker 1: Without tying everything to productivity, what about just doing something 755 00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:37,640 Speaker 1: for fun? 756 00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:37,920 Speaker 3: Right? 757 00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:40,640 Speaker 1: Just a new hobby for instance, Right, And then ask 758 00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:43,719 Speaker 1: yourself what am I curious about right now? Do you 759 00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:46,279 Speaker 1: want to go down the rabbit hole about I don't know, 760 00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:49,759 Speaker 1: mountain climbing, deep sea dibbing, whatever might be like just 761 00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:51,960 Speaker 1: exploring something new. It could be one of the random 762 00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:54,520 Speaker 1: facts that no one no one is ever going to 763 00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:57,080 Speaker 1: ask you about, but you know it, and you've expanded 764 00:47:57,120 --> 00:47:59,520 Speaker 1: your mind and you built a new what is a 765 00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:02,799 Speaker 1: neuro pastha? Right? Because you talk about pathways go to 766 00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:04,400 Speaker 1: new neural pathways, all right. 767 00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:09,040 Speaker 2: Now, yes I love that, and so yeah, again you 768 00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:11,759 Speaker 2: were absolutely right. It might not be something like I said, 769 00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:14,600 Speaker 2: it's something that you're put in your back pocket for laterans, right, 770 00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:17,360 Speaker 2: and you might not ever use it. But guess what, 771 00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:19,839 Speaker 2: on that day, like you said, you created that new 772 00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:25,640 Speaker 2: neural pathway and increased your intellectual your overall intellectual wellness 773 00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:28,040 Speaker 2: by keeping that active mind. 774 00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:29,319 Speaker 1: And so. 775 00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:37,799 Speaker 2: The key takeaways in enhancing your intellectual wellness is you're 776 00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:41,760 Speaker 2: learning for joy, not just advancement. 777 00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:42,160 Speaker 5: Right. 778 00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:45,359 Speaker 2: So, like I know I mentioned my degree that only 779 00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:49,200 Speaker 2: takes me so far, right, that only helps me in 780 00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:56,400 Speaker 2: one area of life. That's not my overall way of existing, right, 781 00:48:57,000 --> 00:48:59,880 Speaker 2: And so for me it's learning. Sometimes it's learning for 782 00:48:59,880 --> 00:49:03,080 Speaker 2: the sake of learning something new. Like you said, mountain 783 00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:05,920 Speaker 2: climbing is a great example. I have no plan in 784 00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:09,480 Speaker 2: life to ever mountain climb like, that's just not me. However, 785 00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:12,840 Speaker 2: if I sit down and I watch a documentary or 786 00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:15,760 Speaker 2: I go down a rabbit hole about learning about mountain climbing, 787 00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:21,840 Speaker 2: it exposes me to something new. I'm looking at new environments, 788 00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:26,439 Speaker 2: I'm under I'm getting an understanding of the people who 789 00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:29,200 Speaker 2: choose to mountain climb and maybe why they mountain climb, 790 00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:33,040 Speaker 2: Like I'm learning, I'm learning in a different way. And 791 00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:35,520 Speaker 2: again it's not about advancement. 792 00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:37,480 Speaker 1: Yes, and what I love about that two dollards you 793 00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:40,400 Speaker 1: can find parallels between mountain climbing that relates to other 794 00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:43,040 Speaker 1: aspects of your life and also relate to other people 795 00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:46,440 Speaker 1: based on what you've learned about it. So intellectual wellness 796 00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:49,319 Speaker 1: is whereas that Okay, all of them are, honestly, but 797 00:49:49,320 --> 00:49:52,480 Speaker 1: we're gonna close out with physical wellness. 798 00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:58,920 Speaker 2: Yes, all right, So physical wellness for most folks probably 799 00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:07,680 Speaker 2: sound self explanatory, right, that physical wellness is really about 800 00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:14,200 Speaker 2: how you move your body right, how you navigate your 801 00:50:14,239 --> 00:50:18,279 Speaker 2: physical like I'm trying not to use a word to 802 00:50:18,320 --> 00:50:22,360 Speaker 2: define a word, right, how you move your body through 803 00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:31,319 Speaker 2: your task of everyday life right. And physical wellness can 804 00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:38,799 Speaker 2: include exercise, but that, but physical wellness is so much 805 00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:44,400 Speaker 2: more than exercise. Physical wellness is about how you manage 806 00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:50,120 Speaker 2: your stress. It's about one of my favorites, getting appropriate 807 00:50:50,160 --> 00:50:56,800 Speaker 2: amounts of sleep. It's physical wellness is about your nutrition. 808 00:50:57,000 --> 00:50:59,600 Speaker 2: So what are the foods that you are putting into 809 00:50:59,719 --> 00:51:06,000 Speaker 2: your body? It's what what are you doing to like 810 00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:11,319 Speaker 2: are you getting regular screenings and checkups? So whether you 811 00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:18,439 Speaker 2: practice Eastern holistic medicine or you practice Western medicine, either way, 812 00:51:18,520 --> 00:51:23,680 Speaker 2: it is still important to have regular checkups and screenings 813 00:51:24,120 --> 00:51:27,120 Speaker 2: to know what is happening on your inside. 814 00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:30,160 Speaker 1: And something else to keep in mind to when it 815 00:51:30,160 --> 00:51:33,440 Speaker 1: comes to physical wellness is that your body isn't the enemy. 816 00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:37,359 Speaker 1: It is always communicating with us. Like the other day, 817 00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:40,200 Speaker 1: I was on a computer doing too much for too long. 818 00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:43,680 Speaker 1: Excuse me, my legs started hurting. So I said, oh, okay, body, 819 00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:45,799 Speaker 1: I'm not going to shame my leg Like damn, I 820 00:51:45,800 --> 00:51:48,000 Speaker 1: got to take some medicine on my leg. I stretched 821 00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:49,520 Speaker 1: my body, I like, got off the computer to take 822 00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:52,560 Speaker 1: a break. Stretched, took a walk. Doesn't work out, it 823 00:51:52,640 --> 00:51:54,640 Speaker 1: will work out, and I felt better. So our body 824 00:51:54,680 --> 00:51:56,879 Speaker 1: is really communicating to us, and so I think it's 825 00:51:56,920 --> 00:51:58,600 Speaker 1: just up to us to listen to it to figure 826 00:51:58,600 --> 00:52:00,239 Speaker 1: out what are they trying to tell us so that 827 00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:02,640 Speaker 1: we can give it what it needs. And some of 828 00:52:02,719 --> 00:52:04,920 Speaker 1: the questions that we can ask ourselves when it comes 829 00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:10,120 Speaker 1: to physical wellness includes what messages did you receive growing 830 00:52:10,200 --> 00:52:13,759 Speaker 1: up about your body and physical health? Was rest encouraged 831 00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:17,560 Speaker 1: probably not, but I mean maybe who knows. Right, you 832 00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:20,280 Speaker 1: ask yourself, right, did you learn to push through pain 833 00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:22,879 Speaker 1: and exhaustion? Hmm? 834 00:52:24,160 --> 00:52:29,120 Speaker 2: Because there is a difference between there's a difference between 835 00:52:29,680 --> 00:52:34,120 Speaker 2: you are truly in pain, yeah, and your body's being 836 00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:38,600 Speaker 2: challenged a little that part a little discomfort is your 837 00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:42,759 Speaker 2: body's being challenged. Pain is a totally different thing, and 838 00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:44,640 Speaker 2: we don't want to ignore the pain. 839 00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:48,759 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yes, yes. And another question, what beliefs do 840 00:52:48,760 --> 00:52:50,920 Speaker 1: you hold about your body that might no longer be 841 00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:55,640 Speaker 1: serving you? How do you usually know your body needs something? 842 00:52:55,680 --> 00:52:59,480 Speaker 1: And how often do you listen to it? That one 843 00:52:59,480 --> 00:53:02,040 Speaker 1: I'm thinking about pushing through, like oh I'm so hungry, 844 00:53:02,040 --> 00:53:03,920 Speaker 1: but I'm gonna wait and I'm gonna do the thing 845 00:53:03,960 --> 00:53:05,640 Speaker 1: that I want to eat, or do this thing or 846 00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:08,160 Speaker 1: get sleep after I do this thing. It's like, no, 847 00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:10,680 Speaker 1: I might need to just take a break, you know. 848 00:53:10,719 --> 00:53:11,600 Speaker 2: Take a break. Yeah. 849 00:53:11,640 --> 00:53:11,920 Speaker 3: I was. 850 00:53:12,760 --> 00:53:16,080 Speaker 2: I was watching something earlier today and this one was 851 00:53:16,160 --> 00:53:19,200 Speaker 2: talking about how she she was a runner. She's in 852 00:53:19,239 --> 00:53:23,080 Speaker 2: good physical perfect physical health overall, like get healthy, eating habits, 853 00:53:23,080 --> 00:53:26,080 Speaker 2: all of that, and she had had a couple of 854 00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:29,600 Speaker 2: experiences where she was running and after the run, like 855 00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:34,800 Speaker 2: her body was feeling completely exhausted, completely drained in ways 856 00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:37,960 Speaker 2: that she hadn't experienced before. She's talking to a couple 857 00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:41,480 Speaker 2: of friends who are also runners in and everybody's like, oh, 858 00:53:41,560 --> 00:53:45,080 Speaker 2: you know, push through, it's okay, you know, you'll be fine. 859 00:53:45,239 --> 00:53:47,439 Speaker 2: You're just tired. Take some rest and you'll be all right. 860 00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:54,400 Speaker 2: She ends up on vacation with her family and they're 861 00:53:54,400 --> 00:53:59,319 Speaker 2: on a bike ride and she collapses and turns out. 862 00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:04,160 Speaker 2: She as this, she ends up having something called cardiomyopathy. Lady, 863 00:54:04,200 --> 00:54:07,719 Speaker 2: google it. I don't. I'm not a medical doctor. I 864 00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:10,880 Speaker 2: can't tell you exactly what it means. But what I know, 865 00:54:11,160 --> 00:54:14,080 Speaker 2: what I paid attention to. What I took away from 866 00:54:14,080 --> 00:54:20,040 Speaker 2: that story is that she was ignoring signs that her 867 00:54:20,080 --> 00:54:24,360 Speaker 2: body was giving her. It's so important to not ignore 868 00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:25,319 Speaker 2: those signs. 869 00:54:25,880 --> 00:54:28,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, not ignore it, and also not let try not 870 00:54:28,760 --> 00:54:32,160 Speaker 1: to let other people tell you about what you're experiencing, 871 00:54:32,160 --> 00:54:35,800 Speaker 1: whether that's a doctor, friends, like really tapping that solitude 872 00:54:35,880 --> 00:54:38,279 Speaker 1: is important in our bodies, and intuition can really tell 873 00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:40,959 Speaker 1: us a lot, and so that is super important, and 874 00:54:41,200 --> 00:54:42,960 Speaker 1: anything else down. I'm coming up for you around this 875 00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:44,480 Speaker 1: conversation before we close out. 876 00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:48,799 Speaker 2: Well, I think to I want to emphasize in terms 877 00:54:48,800 --> 00:54:52,200 Speaker 2: of our physical health that we want to remember to 878 00:54:53,360 --> 00:54:55,680 Speaker 2: move in ways that feel good for us. That it's 879 00:54:55,719 --> 00:55:00,600 Speaker 2: about movement, right. So if you are not person who's 880 00:55:00,640 --> 00:55:02,200 Speaker 2: going to go and get on a treadmill for thirty 881 00:55:02,200 --> 00:55:05,160 Speaker 2: minutes every day, but you love to dance, then make 882 00:55:05,200 --> 00:55:07,760 Speaker 2: sure you make time for dance. That's still your body moving, 883 00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:10,200 Speaker 2: and there are certain ways in which you are dancing, 884 00:55:10,280 --> 00:55:16,080 Speaker 2: certain movements that move different body parts and train different 885 00:55:16,080 --> 00:55:19,880 Speaker 2: body parts than getting on a treadmill wheel. It's still movement. 886 00:55:20,840 --> 00:55:27,440 Speaker 2: Prioritized sleep, hydration, and nourishment like drink your water, eat healthy, 887 00:55:28,520 --> 00:55:30,160 Speaker 2: and get adequate sleep. 888 00:55:30,760 --> 00:55:31,760 Speaker 1: And mind your business. 889 00:55:31,840 --> 00:55:36,399 Speaker 2: I mean yes that part and part of minding your 890 00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:40,840 Speaker 2: own business is also keeping those medical appointments right, yes, 891 00:55:40,880 --> 00:55:46,520 Speaker 2: and honoring your body when you need rest. If you 892 00:55:46,560 --> 00:55:49,400 Speaker 2: are feeling exhausted, it's okay to take a break. I 893 00:55:49,520 --> 00:55:51,920 Speaker 2: encourage people to take mental health days from work if 894 00:55:52,680 --> 00:55:56,000 Speaker 2: they are working in a job that allows for time off. 895 00:55:57,040 --> 00:55:59,160 Speaker 1: I would say, my body is telling me, right now, 896 00:56:00,520 --> 00:56:01,440 Speaker 1: I need a break. 897 00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:08,000 Speaker 2: And with that in mind, like listen, we are going 898 00:56:08,160 --> 00:56:13,040 Speaker 2: to we are going to wrap up, and I do 899 00:56:13,280 --> 00:56:15,720 Speaker 2: want to before we do wrap up, I do want 900 00:56:15,760 --> 00:56:19,399 Speaker 2: to emphasize, I do want to point out our bonus 901 00:56:19,440 --> 00:56:23,359 Speaker 2: dimension of wellness, which is occupational or professional wellness, right, 902 00:56:24,080 --> 00:56:30,239 Speaker 2: and so occupational or vocational or professional wellness it relates 903 00:56:30,280 --> 00:56:37,120 Speaker 2: to how you address your career, right, and how you 904 00:56:37,160 --> 00:56:41,120 Speaker 2: address the things that you do to earn a living. 905 00:56:42,560 --> 00:56:46,839 Speaker 2: And for some of us, if we are not most 906 00:56:46,840 --> 00:56:51,440 Speaker 2: of us, actually, if we are not happy, if we 907 00:56:51,520 --> 00:56:58,840 Speaker 2: don't find fulfillment in our chosen career fields, that leads 908 00:56:58,880 --> 00:57:03,040 Speaker 2: to levels of us and impacts all the other dimensions 909 00:57:03,080 --> 00:57:09,560 Speaker 2: of well being. Right. And even if you aren't, maybe 910 00:57:09,600 --> 00:57:16,200 Speaker 2: you are at retirement age, or maybe you are in 911 00:57:16,240 --> 00:57:21,120 Speaker 2: a financial position where you don't have to work per se. So, 912 00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:25,760 Speaker 2: but it could be about violence, about volunteering, right, So 913 00:57:26,320 --> 00:57:29,800 Speaker 2: what is the thing that you do that allows you 914 00:57:29,840 --> 00:57:33,120 Speaker 2: to gain some personal fulfillment, okay, and allows you to 915 00:57:33,160 --> 00:57:38,360 Speaker 2: make a contribution to the world in society in some way? 916 00:57:39,440 --> 00:57:45,120 Speaker 2: All right, lady, So as we honor our needs for 917 00:57:46,400 --> 00:57:51,000 Speaker 2: some rest after our long work day, let's run through 918 00:57:51,720 --> 00:58:06,200 Speaker 2: these seven dimensions of wellness again. So we have psychological, spiritual, social, environmental, financial, intellectual, physical, 919 00:58:06,760 --> 00:58:09,480 Speaker 2: and our bonus occupational health. 920 00:58:11,200 --> 00:58:13,600 Speaker 1: I'm right, thank you, for tuning the lady, we appreciate you, 921 00:58:13,680 --> 00:58:15,960 Speaker 1: and we're actually going to go and record the after show, 922 00:58:16,040 --> 00:58:19,280 Speaker 1: so you can head on over to Herspace podcast dot com, 923 00:58:19,320 --> 00:58:22,800 Speaker 1: click anywhere you see Patreon or Wisdom Wednesday, and you 924 00:58:22,800 --> 00:58:24,920 Speaker 1: continue to the after show and also connect with us 925 00:58:24,920 --> 00:58:27,560 Speaker 1: on Instagram. 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