1 00:00:11,240 --> 00:00:13,640 Speaker 1: You know in Jurassic Park, you know when they're in 2 00:00:13,720 --> 00:00:15,960 Speaker 1: the Ford ex floor. Heck of a job by Ford 3 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:17,600 Speaker 1: getting the movie, by the way, and you just hear 4 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:24,360 Speaker 1: the and then the lawyer says, maybe it's the power 5 00:00:24,400 --> 00:00:26,480 Speaker 1: trying to come back on. It could be or it 6 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 1: could be Wyoming TI with Texas midway through the fourth quarter. 7 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 1: It could be South Alabama or South Florida, whichever South 8 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 1: Alabama plays this. It could be an upset coming out 9 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 1: of nowhere. That's what it could be. These kinds of 10 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:39,919 Speaker 1: weeks always make me a little uneasy. And I'm not 11 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:42,760 Speaker 1: even coaching or playing in the games. But I'm a bystander, 12 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:46,800 Speaker 1: and I haven't predicted any major upset. Florida over Tennessee's 13 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:49,600 Speaker 1: not major. And yet here I sit with the rest 14 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:52,400 Speaker 1: of you forty eight hours out. Unless you think Bathune 15 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 1: Cookman has a shot against Miami. Tonight, it is Thursday night, 16 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 1: September fourteenth year of Our Lord, twenty twenty three. We're 17 00:00:57,840 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 1: jam packed hi atop a sun drenched downtown Nashville. Upset alerts, yeah, 18 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 1: I got them. Tonight. I've also got a real in 19 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:10,400 Speaker 1: depth conversation that some say is long overdue. I don't 20 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 1: about which conference is actually the strongest in America right now. 21 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 1: I don't know if you've heard, but there are there 22 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:20,559 Speaker 1: have been two bits of breaking news around this office today. 23 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:22,039 Speaker 1: I'm gonna share the other one with you in a 24 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 1: second and involves Director Colin. The first one is the 25 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:27,640 Speaker 1: SEC is down for the count. That's the breaking news. 26 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 1: So we'll discuss do you believe this? We'll discuss. I'm 27 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:34,160 Speaker 1: gonna talk to Cole Kublick a little bit later in 28 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 1: the show. Hey, he's got Georgia tech Ole miss this weekend, 29 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:39,679 Speaker 1: a triumphant return for KUBLIC to Oxford. I know you 30 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:43,000 Speaker 1: guys have been waiting on that all that. Plus I've 31 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:45,480 Speaker 1: got two new items to show you. Immunity. They're watching 32 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:50,639 Speaker 1: us in San Diego, California, Molino, Florida. Where's Milino? Someone 33 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 1: in the chat? Where's Milino? Cedar Springs, Michigan, New Orleans, Louisiana. 34 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 1: Fun fact. I'll be in New Orleans in about three hours. 35 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:00,360 Speaker 1: I got some personal business to attend to down there, 36 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 1: and then we'll be off to Missouri this weekend for 37 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:06,360 Speaker 1: Kansas State Missouri the once upon a Saturday tour. So 38 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:10,239 Speaker 1: before that happens, let me remind you, folks of something 39 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 1: most of you are already familiar, but if you're not, 40 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 1: you need to make sure you're following on Instagram at 41 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 1: late kick Josh because Friday Night Lines was on actual 42 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:21,720 Speaker 1: fire last week. Like if you were watching on your phone, 43 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:24,880 Speaker 1: you thought your battery was overheating, but it was really 44 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:26,800 Speaker 1: just that we were handing out so many winners. So 45 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:31,520 Speaker 1: the Ramnudle Express is chugging towards profitability. In fact, we're 46 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:34,200 Speaker 1: sixty six percent so far this year and we're looking 47 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:36,640 Speaker 1: to continue that. So anyway, I'm gonna give you another 48 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:39,080 Speaker 1: best bet on the show tonight. But the final plays 49 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 1: we hand out. That's on Friday night, and it's late 50 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:43,600 Speaker 1: most of the time, and I can guarantee you it'll 51 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:45,760 Speaker 1: be late because I gotta fly to Saint Louis Friday 52 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 1: night and I'll get in a little bit late. So 53 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 1: Friday Night Lines, it's live, it's only on Instagram at 54 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:54,080 Speaker 1: late Kick Josh. That's the first order of business. The 55 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:57,080 Speaker 1: second order of business is Director Colin Let's double clap 56 00:02:57,120 --> 00:02:59,959 Speaker 1: this thing as of the last hour in the Pates 57 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:04,800 Speaker 1: State Store. Finally, finally, we have our first, hopefully of 58 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 1: many Paate State Strength and Conditioning t shirts that have dropped. Now, look, 59 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:12,240 Speaker 1: this is open to interpretation, and if you're listening on podcasts, 60 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:16,240 Speaker 1: just imagine a flexed fist holding a dumbbell. You think 61 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 1: to yourself, those are plates on the side of that dumbbell. 62 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 1: I like to think of them as train wheels, not 63 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 1: training wheels, the actual wheels you would see on the 64 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:28,120 Speaker 1: side of a freight car. Two each his and her own, 65 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 1: and also in the Pate State store. As of the 66 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 1: last hour, we've been paying attention to Dion Sanders, as 67 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 1: you could clearly see. Now, I'm not gonna have a 68 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 1: Colorado segment on the show tonight, but that doesn't mean 69 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 1: we don't have two brand spanking new shirts the day 70 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 1: we kept the receipts in the Peate State store. I 71 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:47,120 Speaker 1: think they're glorious. I think they're beautiful. I'll probably buy 72 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:49,400 Speaker 1: ten for family and friends as soon as I find 73 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:52,960 Speaker 1: out if I have any in Colorado, so payatestatematerial dot com. 74 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 1: Those are there right now. My advice buy them as 75 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:59,000 Speaker 1: quickly as you can. All right. The other bit of 76 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 1: breaking news as we dive in the show is I 77 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 1: found out moments ago director Colin once sold popcorn at 78 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 1: Bristol Motor Speedway. And I don't know what to do 79 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 1: with the information. We don't have photographic evidence. But director Colin, 80 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:14,120 Speaker 1: who is a real, living, breathing boy, once sold popcorn 81 00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:16,839 Speaker 1: at Bristol how about that? And once worked in Bristol, 82 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:18,719 Speaker 1: just a different one. That's all you need to know 83 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 1: about him. Let's dive into the show tonight, all right. 84 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 1: So a debate is raging in college football circles about 85 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 1: conference strength. This normally is reserved for bowl season, but 86 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:32,280 Speaker 1: now everyone's talking about it because the SEC seems like 87 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:35,480 Speaker 1: it may have a flat tire or three, and that 88 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:38,680 Speaker 1: means that conference supremacy is up for grabs. It's like 89 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:40,679 Speaker 1: a ladder match and all of a sudden, everyone's reaching 90 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 1: for the belt. I think this is an impossible debate, 91 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:46,160 Speaker 1: but so many of you have asked me, Hey, who 92 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:49,120 Speaker 1: do you think is the number one conference in America? 93 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 1: Right now that I'm going to wade into these treacherous, 94 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 1: treacherous waters right along with the rest of you. I 95 00:04:56,600 --> 00:04:59,120 Speaker 1: think it's impossible, only because I'm not so sure we 96 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 1: all value this thing. A lot of you look at 97 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:04,200 Speaker 1: this and you say, how many teams out of your 98 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 1: conference could make the playoff, how many of them could 99 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:08,280 Speaker 1: win a championship. A lot of the rest of you 100 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 1: just care about rankings or conference records. So here's the 101 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 1: first thing. Ultimately, in December, it's going to come down 102 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:16,800 Speaker 1: to who has the most title contenders. And the way 103 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:19,240 Speaker 1: I see it right now, and I'm free to adjust this, 104 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 1: as are you in your own mind, I think the 105 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 1: SEC's still got to be considered to have three of them. 106 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:28,880 Speaker 1: I think Georgia and Alabama are certainly up there. I 107 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 1: think LSU is still up there because the thing about 108 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:34,040 Speaker 1: it is you can't be knocking LSU out of contention, 109 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:36,760 Speaker 1: but also telling me Florida State it's a bona fide 110 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:39,200 Speaker 1: title contender when that's the team they lost to. Diddo 111 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:42,760 Speaker 1: with Alabama they lost to Texas, no one's knocking Texas 112 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:45,600 Speaker 1: they're a title contender, and so on and so forth. 113 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 1: In the Big Ten, Clearly they've got three of them 114 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 1: up there, or at least we think it's clear that 115 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 1: as of now, Ohio State and Michigan Penn State. So 116 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 1: by that prism, SEC Big Ten kind of similar. Now 117 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:02,200 Speaker 1: here's here's my question to you. How would you view 118 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:06,599 Speaker 1: the PAC twelve right now, cause I can make two arguments. 119 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:08,920 Speaker 1: I could make an argument there are like five teams 120 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:13,320 Speaker 1: out there that are alive for championship slash playoff consideration. 121 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:15,479 Speaker 1: Or you could come back at me and say, no, 122 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:19,360 Speaker 1: they actually have one or none. You just haven't seen 123 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:23,120 Speaker 1: all the carnage start to take place once conference play starts, 124 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 1: which either one of them could be true. We're so 125 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:29,560 Speaker 1: early in the season one of many reasons, by the way, 126 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 1: that this is a totally irrelevant conversation. Naturally, I'm leading 127 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:36,719 Speaker 1: the show with it. Big twelve is the same way, 128 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:40,239 Speaker 1: like Kansas State hasn't lost a game. Should I consider 129 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:42,279 Speaker 1: them a playoff contender? We're gonna see them in forty 130 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:44,880 Speaker 1: eight hours? Should I consider them a playoff contender? Because 131 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 1: I consider Texas one and I've seen Texas in person. 132 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 1: I consider Oklahoma one. But if you shot back at me, well, 133 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:55,200 Speaker 1: you only think that because of what the Vegas odds say. 134 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:58,599 Speaker 1: Kinda yeah, I mean you are right about that. Oklahoma 135 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 1: has has not played a marque opponent yet, and so 136 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 1: the ACC that's tough because right now, as much as 137 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:13,600 Speaker 1: I don't believe in writing Clemson off, I've temporarily taken 138 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 1: my hand and I've just I've just pushed them to 139 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:20,120 Speaker 1: the side, and I got Florida State alone in the 140 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 1: playoff contention bracket for the ACC. But I could be 141 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:26,240 Speaker 1: wrong about that. Like I said, I reserve the right 142 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 1: to add teams and subtract teams at my leisure. But 143 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 1: here's the here's the reason I don't take part in 144 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:35,160 Speaker 1: this conversation in bowl season. In bowl season, you know 145 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 1: how back in the day before people used phrases like 146 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:43,240 Speaker 1: meaningless bowl game casualty. Before people did that, though, we 147 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:45,880 Speaker 1: would have what did what did ESPN call it Capitol 148 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 1: one bowl Mania or whatever it was, where you just 149 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:52,120 Speaker 1: compare conference records. The PAC twelve is six and one 150 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:54,240 Speaker 1: in bowl season, the SEC is two and seven in 151 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 1: bowl season. And you know that was the most low 152 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:01,520 Speaker 1: hanging fruit imaginable. But it was used around the Christmas 153 00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 1: dinner table in the New Year's Eve whatever in the 154 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 1: world you gather around on January thirty first or December 155 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:12,600 Speaker 1: thirty first. It was used to tout conference supremacy. Well, 156 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:15,040 Speaker 1: I never looked at it that way. I thought the 157 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:16,720 Speaker 1: only way and I still think this way. I think 158 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:19,760 Speaker 1: the only way that you could measure true legitimate conference 159 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 1: supremacy is if you had some tournament wherein every conference 160 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:27,560 Speaker 1: was seeded one through twelve, one through fourteen, one through sixteen. 161 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:30,960 Speaker 1: However many of them you have find the number that 162 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:33,720 Speaker 1: would fit them all. So fourteen, I guess every conference. 163 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 1: Every conference has at least twelve, I think, or fourteen 164 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:38,520 Speaker 1: right now. So take the top fourteen teams out of 165 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:42,480 Speaker 1: every conference seedom one through fourteen, and then if I'm 166 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:45,200 Speaker 1: going to watch an ACC versus PAC twelve game, I 167 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:48,000 Speaker 1: want to see number four versus number four. So far 168 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:50,920 Speaker 1: this year, what's happened? And this is going to sound 169 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 1: like sour grapes. Half of you already think I'm an 170 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:55,200 Speaker 1: SEC home er anyway, so I don't care at this point. 171 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:57,760 Speaker 1: That's fine. We all know where I grew up. That's fine. 172 00:08:59,840 --> 00:09:02,960 Speaker 1: Secs three and six right now in out of conference matchups, 173 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:07,000 Speaker 1: which most people would tell you means the SEC is down. 174 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:09,839 Speaker 1: And I don't disagree that the SEC is down. What 175 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 1: it doesn't tell me is how they measure up shot 176 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:15,920 Speaker 1: for shot against any other conference. Because what we saw, 177 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:20,679 Speaker 1: in case you hadn't been paying attention is fsulsu. Okay, 178 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 1: that was the ACC's number one against the SEC's call 179 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 1: it a three. I think that's safe to say North 180 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:30,280 Speaker 1: Carolina beat South Carolina. Okay, that was supposed to tell 181 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 1: me something about ACC SEC. What it told me is 182 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 1: the number three team in the ACC beat the number 183 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 1: ten team in the SEC, as they should. I'm not 184 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:45,040 Speaker 1: downing the accomplishment. I'm just saying that tells me nothing 185 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 1: about the conference against the conference. Florida, by most discernible metrics, 186 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:54,679 Speaker 1: was the eleventh or twelfth team preseason in the SEC Utah, 187 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 1: even without Cam Rising, who is in the production suite 188 00:09:57,559 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 1: as we speak, Even without came Rising five in the 189 00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:03,520 Speaker 1: PAC twelve. It doesn't tell me what you think. It 190 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:05,840 Speaker 1: tells me. This is not the flex you think it is. 191 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:08,480 Speaker 1: To quote the famous meme of me that's floating around, 192 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:13,160 Speaker 1: I think the most powerful arguments against the SEC right 193 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 1: now are that A and M Miami game and the 194 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:20,160 Speaker 1: Texas Spama game. Those mean something to me, at least 195 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:23,040 Speaker 1: it means something team versus team to me. Now, there 196 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:24,720 Speaker 1: may be a steep drop off once you get to 197 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:27,880 Speaker 1: the middle tiers of those respective conferences versus the SEC, 198 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:30,840 Speaker 1: But the rest of this stuff is just it's just 199 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:33,360 Speaker 1: matchup stuff. It just tells me North Carolina is better 200 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:36,000 Speaker 1: than South Carolina. It tells me, at least to start 201 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:38,560 Speaker 1: the season, FSU is better than LSU by a wide 202 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:41,360 Speaker 1: margin in the second half. As it turns out, don't 203 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 1: really tell me much about the ACC so conference record. 204 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:46,439 Speaker 1: I don't care about head to head I don't care 205 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:47,959 Speaker 1: about it. I never care about it in bowl season, 206 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 1: so I especially don't care about it in the regular season. 207 00:10:50,280 --> 00:10:53,320 Speaker 1: And anyone who's watched me for a long time, thank you. 208 00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:55,720 Speaker 1: I mean, from the bottom of my heart, thank you. 209 00:10:56,800 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 1: Anyone who's watched me for a long time knows that 210 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:02,200 Speaker 1: I've used this against the CC for years. Even if 211 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:05,280 Speaker 1: the SEC were to tout this stuff, I would remind 212 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:10,960 Speaker 1: SEC fans I would say, well, was it evenly seeded? No, 213 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:13,959 Speaker 1: it wasn't, So therefore I don't care. I don't care 214 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 1: if Alabama goes and beats Duke. I really don't. It 215 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:18,920 Speaker 1: didn't tell me anything tells me Alabama's better than Duke. 216 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:21,520 Speaker 1: I'd love to see that matchup at the moment, but 217 00:11:21,679 --> 00:11:24,680 Speaker 1: I don't really care about anything past that. Rankings I 218 00:11:24,679 --> 00:11:27,520 Speaker 1: also don't care about so right now, the AP is 219 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 1: just littered with PAC twelve teams, which I got no 220 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:35,200 Speaker 1: problem with. The JP pole has how many Jesse We 221 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:38,800 Speaker 1: got six pack twelve teams in our top twenty five, 222 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:43,040 Speaker 1: So yeah, I agree with that. In theory, here's the difference. 223 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:46,080 Speaker 1: You want to know the difference between rankings and power ratings. 224 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:50,160 Speaker 1: Here's the difference. Follow me here on this little mental exercise. 225 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:55,080 Speaker 1: So the AP has UCLA at number twenty four, right now, 226 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:57,640 Speaker 1: I got no issue with that. I got UCLA a 227 00:11:57,679 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 1: little bit higher, but I've got no issue with that. 228 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:05,160 Speaker 1: So for argument's sake, let's just say the AP is 229 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:09,200 Speaker 1: dead on the money. It's right about every team. It's not, obviously, 230 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:11,760 Speaker 1: But for argument's sake, let's say that is that is 231 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:14,840 Speaker 1: the gospel. All these words are written in read take 232 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 1: it to the bank. If that were the case, that 233 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:23,160 Speaker 1: would mean UCLA has seven PAC twelve teams ahead of 234 00:12:23,200 --> 00:12:26,280 Speaker 1: them in the top twenty five. Southern cal Colorado, Oregon, 235 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:30,480 Speaker 1: Oregon State, Utah's up there, Washington's up there, Washington State 236 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:34,320 Speaker 1: is ahead of UCLA. So all those teams are ranked 237 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:39,079 Speaker 1: ahead of UCLA. Right Let's say UCLA played every one 238 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:42,800 Speaker 1: of them in conference play, just as a mental exercise, 239 00:12:43,720 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 1: and they lost to every one of them. Would you 240 00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:51,040 Speaker 1: keep UCLA twenty fourth if they lost in direct proportion 241 00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:54,520 Speaker 1: to how much higher ranked their opposing team is than them. 242 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:58,040 Speaker 1: So Southern Cow beats them by two touchdowns, Washington State 243 00:12:58,040 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 1: beats them by one point. In other words, the AP 244 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:04,920 Speaker 1: pole plays out on the field exactly as it says 245 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:07,920 Speaker 1: it should. What would you do with the UCLA? The 246 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:10,520 Speaker 1: JP pole wouldn't bump them down a single spot. I'd 247 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:13,360 Speaker 1: keep them number twenty four because what I would see 248 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:16,560 Speaker 1: is validation that my power ratings are right. But in 249 00:13:16,679 --> 00:13:20,400 Speaker 1: rankings Land, you can't have a five and seventeen ranked 250 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:23,120 Speaker 1: inside the top twenty five. Absolutely not, no, no, no, 251 00:13:23,679 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 1: So that's dumb to me. That's why I never believed 252 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:30,839 Speaker 1: in ranking teams, because the merit or the punishment just 253 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:32,840 Speaker 1: because you win or just because you lose has never 254 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:35,320 Speaker 1: made sense. This is not pro sports, this is college sports. 255 00:13:35,760 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 1: And also that's why I do power ratings. So the 256 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:42,000 Speaker 1: best I can tell right now, and I really hate 257 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:43,600 Speaker 1: to do this because I know a lot of folks 258 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:46,640 Speaker 1: really really dialed up and ready to bash the SEC 259 00:13:46,920 --> 00:13:49,720 Speaker 1: like a pinata. The SEC is still the best conference 260 00:13:49,760 --> 00:13:53,040 Speaker 1: in college football. That's one truth. The other truth is 261 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:54,960 Speaker 1: I do think it's down. I do think it's much 262 00:13:55,040 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 1: closer to the pack than in most years. But here's 263 00:13:58,200 --> 00:14:01,440 Speaker 1: the separator. If you hold them to a different standard 264 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:03,959 Speaker 1: in your mind, and most of you know you do. 265 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:06,640 Speaker 1: But even if you don't know that, in that subconscious 266 00:14:06,640 --> 00:14:08,400 Speaker 1: of yours, you do. You hold the SEC to a 267 00:14:08,440 --> 00:14:11,920 Speaker 1: different standard. You look at them and you criticize them 268 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:14,040 Speaker 1: for things you would totally shut your mouth about if 269 00:14:14,080 --> 00:14:15,680 Speaker 1: you saw the ACC do it to the Big twelve. 270 00:14:15,679 --> 00:14:17,480 Speaker 1: Do it because you don't expect as much from them. 271 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:20,040 Speaker 1: But if we're doing an apples to apples heads up 272 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:22,680 Speaker 1: scenario right here, you can't do that. You gotta hold 273 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:25,440 Speaker 1: everyone to the same standard. So right now we got 274 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:27,840 Speaker 1: I'm just looking at my power ratings. You can think 275 00:14:27,880 --> 00:14:30,000 Speaker 1: what you want to about them. I got three SEC 276 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:32,800 Speaker 1: teams in my top ten. I got three Big ten 277 00:14:32,840 --> 00:14:35,280 Speaker 1: teams in my top ten, but when I get to 278 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:38,080 Speaker 1: that second tier there's a pretty sizable drop off. I 279 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:40,640 Speaker 1: don't have a lot of Big ten elsewhere. In the 280 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:44,080 Speaker 1: top twenty five. I got some SEC. I got six 281 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:47,000 Speaker 1: Pack twelve teams, but my highest PAC twelve team is seventh. 282 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:49,280 Speaker 1: I got four from the Big twelve. I got four 283 00:14:49,320 --> 00:14:52,560 Speaker 1: from the ACC, and so as much as you want 284 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 1: to not the SEC's depth, the SEC's depth shouldn't be knocked. 285 00:14:57,360 --> 00:15:00,680 Speaker 1: It's just that when that depth gets tested against the 286 00:15:00,680 --> 00:15:04,560 Speaker 1: ACC's number three team or the PAC twelves number four team, yeah, 287 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:06,120 Speaker 1: it's going to get exposed a little bit because the 288 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:08,120 Speaker 1: SEC is not as good this year as they are 289 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:11,280 Speaker 1: in most years. But here's the thing. There was a 290 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:16,000 Speaker 1: wide swath, there was a big gap, a chasm, if 291 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:18,640 Speaker 1: you will, between where the SEC had been and wherever 292 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:21,160 Speaker 1: the next best conference was, and the only contender really 293 00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:24,040 Speaker 1: was the Big Ten in years past. And look, it 294 00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:26,480 Speaker 1: may still shake out that way this year. I love 295 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:28,760 Speaker 1: what the PAC twelve's done. I think the PAC twelve 296 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:32,120 Speaker 1: could end up reasonably being the second best conference top 297 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:34,120 Speaker 1: to bottom in college football this year. They're not going 298 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:35,960 Speaker 1: to be better than the SEC. No one will be 299 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:38,280 Speaker 1: better than the SEC this year. No one will be 300 00:15:38,280 --> 00:15:41,000 Speaker 1: better than the SEC for the foreseeable future. I know 301 00:15:41,080 --> 00:15:44,600 Speaker 1: that's unpopular, it also happens to be truth. Even in 302 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:47,280 Speaker 1: a down year for the SEC, the quality in the 303 00:15:47,280 --> 00:15:49,840 Speaker 1: conference top to bottom is better than the top to 304 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:54,600 Speaker 1: bottom quality in any other conference. I'm sorry, but that's 305 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:58,400 Speaker 1: the way it is. We're going to see last year's 306 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:00,640 Speaker 1: Big Twelve champion this Saturday, though, the once Upon a 307 00:16:00,680 --> 00:16:04,200 Speaker 1: Saturday tour is headed to Columbia, Missouri, first time ever 308 00:16:04,760 --> 00:16:07,240 Speaker 1: in Colombia for us to see a football game sold out, 309 00:16:07,280 --> 00:16:10,600 Speaker 1: first times. It's twenty nineteen there, and so yeah, eleven 310 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:14,240 Speaker 1: am local kick Saturday. You know how much I love those. 311 00:16:14,360 --> 00:16:17,120 Speaker 1: It's not Big noonkickoff because Fox doesn't have the game. 312 00:16:17,760 --> 00:16:20,240 Speaker 1: I think I think it's SCC network. I think friend 313 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:22,200 Speaker 1: of the Program Alyssa Lang will be up there on 314 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:24,640 Speaker 1: the sideline with us. So we look forward to that, 315 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 1: and I also look forward for about two more days 316 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:31,560 Speaker 1: to having that once Upon a Saturday stop in Columbia 317 00:16:31,640 --> 00:16:34,960 Speaker 1: T shirt in the Pate State Store. Paytstatematerial dot com. 318 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:37,480 Speaker 1: Just a fair warning, we've never been to Missouri before. 319 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:40,040 Speaker 1: I don't know when we'll be there again. That shirt's 320 00:16:40,040 --> 00:16:41,920 Speaker 1: going to be there two more days and then it's gone. 321 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:44,160 Speaker 1: So if you want to commemorate that trip to for 322 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:46,640 Speaker 1: ro Field. And I got to check on the pronunciation 323 00:16:46,720 --> 00:16:49,440 Speaker 1: because I never get those words that end in te right, 324 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:54,400 Speaker 1: that's where it is. Peytstatematerial dot com. Speaking of just 325 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:59,680 Speaker 1: games all over the place this weekend. The upset meter, 326 00:16:59,800 --> 00:17:03,640 Speaker 1: to me, peaks the hardest in weekends like this, weekends 327 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:06,840 Speaker 1: where your casual cousin, for example, we'll call him Carl 328 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:09,720 Speaker 1: not read, tells you, oh, this is a sleeper of 329 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:12,280 Speaker 1: a weekend. Oh, just fast forward to week four and 330 00:17:12,359 --> 00:17:15,440 Speaker 1: believe me, week four is loaded. We got some decisions 331 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:17,400 Speaker 1: to make with the once upon a Saturday tour next week. 332 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:21,280 Speaker 1: But here's the thing about weekends like this, they always 333 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:23,679 Speaker 1: are tough to see because you're in like a fog, 334 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:25,119 Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden you come out of 335 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:27,840 Speaker 1: the fog and it turns out, oh, there's a mushroom cloud. 336 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:30,200 Speaker 1: Where'd that come from? Oh a great big bomb, and 337 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:33,439 Speaker 1: college football just went off. We got carnage everywhere. It's 338 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:36,640 Speaker 1: chaos left and right. I never would have seen it coming. Well, 339 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:38,080 Speaker 1: here's the thing about it. We try and see it, 340 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:40,879 Speaker 1: We try and see it around the corner, but it's difficult. 341 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:44,399 Speaker 1: Like Penn State plays Illinois this weekend. The line on 342 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:47,760 Speaker 1: the game's fourteen and a half's drew Awler's first real 343 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:51,040 Speaker 1: road test as the starting quarterback at Penn State. It's 344 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:55,040 Speaker 1: an eleven am local kick Illinois totally off everyone's radar calls. 345 00:17:55,040 --> 00:17:58,600 Speaker 1: They lost to Kansas last Friday night, meaning they got 346 00:17:58,600 --> 00:18:01,119 Speaker 1: a little extra rest for this. Of course they're in 347 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:03,480 Speaker 1: wounded animal mode. One of the most important metrics on 348 00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:08,800 Speaker 1: this show. Penn State. According to my research from producer Jesse, 349 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:13,359 Speaker 1: they did let that West Virginia quarterback run on him 350 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:15,440 Speaker 1: a little bit, and Luke Altmeyer can do the same 351 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:19,000 Speaker 1: for Illinois. So what'd this thing go to? About nineteen 352 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:21,840 Speaker 1: overtimes the last time they played? What a memory? I mean, 353 00:18:21,840 --> 00:18:24,200 Speaker 1: what a memory they didn't play last year? So Penn 354 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:27,919 Speaker 1: State at Illinois. I think the upset meter a six 355 00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:30,840 Speaker 1: on a one to ten scale. So, in other words, 356 00:18:30,920 --> 00:18:34,399 Speaker 1: keep your eye on it next up. This is just disgusting. 357 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:38,399 Speaker 1: I can smell this off the piece of paper. South 358 00:18:38,480 --> 00:18:41,480 Speaker 1: Alabama is only a seven and a half point underdog 359 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:45,240 Speaker 1: at Oklahoma State. So that's with home field baked in. 360 00:18:45,320 --> 00:18:48,240 Speaker 1: South Alabama a seven and a half point dog. It's 361 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:51,840 Speaker 1: been bet down from nine. I looked at the model. 362 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:55,080 Speaker 1: The model slightly leans Oklahoma State, and I said, no, 363 00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:57,760 Speaker 1: thank you. We bet Oklahoma State last week. 364 00:18:57,800 --> 00:18:58,120 Speaker 2: We won. 365 00:18:58,240 --> 00:19:01,359 Speaker 1: We are not on the Cowboys this week. Do you 366 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:05,280 Speaker 1: know they've played three quarterbacks this year, like Oklahoma State 367 00:19:05,359 --> 00:19:07,880 Speaker 1: has three quarterbacks who have thrown fifteen or more passes. 368 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:12,679 Speaker 1: It's week three. That's wild, that's actually pretty crazy. They 369 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:15,280 Speaker 1: got to figure it out. Do you want to be 370 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:18,760 Speaker 1: figuring it out against South Alabama? I know most of 371 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:21,800 Speaker 1: you think that South Alabama is a nothing program, and 372 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 1: they got a clip art mascot logo. This is a 373 00:19:25,359 --> 00:19:28,000 Speaker 1: good team. It's a very good team, and that coaching 374 00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:30,960 Speaker 1: staff is going to be getting attention on a broad 375 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:33,800 Speaker 1: scale from a lot of more major programs. I say 376 00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:36,400 Speaker 1: the same thing about the Troy coaching staff. I got 377 00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:39,600 Speaker 1: some really good coaching staffs in Alabama at the G 378 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:42,199 Speaker 1: five level. Trent dilfer' is the head coach at UAB, 379 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:45,160 Speaker 1: so there's all kind of entertaining things happening down there. 380 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:47,360 Speaker 1: I'm gonna put this upset alert at like an eight. 381 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:51,119 Speaker 1: I'm very nervous about it. And this is half of 382 00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:54,680 Speaker 1: my Big twelve Championship game prediction Oklahoma State. It's not 383 00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:57,119 Speaker 1: a conference game, but if they drop it to the 384 00:19:57,240 --> 00:20:00,520 Speaker 1: Jags of South Alabama, it would not go very far 385 00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:03,800 Speaker 1: and giving me comfort as they inter conference play next up. 386 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:06,320 Speaker 1: This to me is one that is far enough off 387 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:10,040 Speaker 1: the radar to where I'm just putting the bright blinking 388 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 1: red light emojis all over it. Washington is laying seventeen 389 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:19,239 Speaker 1: on the road at Michigan State. What's Michigan State been 390 00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:21,240 Speaker 1: in the news for this week? Their head coach is 391 00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:25,840 Speaker 1: suspended pending a sexual harassment investigation. No one's talking about football, 392 00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:30,359 Speaker 1: and also everyone's just of the opinion the team's terrible quarterback, 393 00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:33,000 Speaker 1: best wide receiver transferred out. They're bad. No one's paying 394 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:35,600 Speaker 1: attention to Noah Kem. No one even knows what he's 395 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:38,000 Speaker 1: been doing at the quarterback position. No one knows that 396 00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:42,840 Speaker 1: Michigan State is plus seventy four in point differential so 397 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:45,520 Speaker 1: far through two games. That's their best mark since nineteen 398 00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:48,040 Speaker 1: thirty one. And hoops to moongst us could forget that 399 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:51,160 Speaker 1: thirty one Spartan squad. I got to hit my buddy 400 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:52,600 Speaker 1: Jim Don enough and ask him if he was on 401 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:57,040 Speaker 1: that team. So I'm looking at this and Washington's sitting 402 00:20:57,040 --> 00:20:59,040 Speaker 1: there in the top ten, and they're going across the 403 00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:05,200 Speaker 1: country and they're seventeen, and I am nervous because sometimes 404 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:09,040 Speaker 1: it's called the ewing effect. Producer Jesse was talking to 405 00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:11,280 Speaker 1: me about it today. A lot of times, when you 406 00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:14,480 Speaker 1: lose star players and you know about it all week, 407 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:17,439 Speaker 1: it doesn't happen on a Friday. There's this galvanization that 408 00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:20,040 Speaker 1: happens in the locker room and a bunch of folks 409 00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:22,399 Speaker 1: play at one hundred and five percent and collectively that 410 00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:24,439 Speaker 1: more than makes up for the loss. Well, when you 411 00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:28,480 Speaker 1: lose a head coach, that not only happens with your 412 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:32,440 Speaker 1: player roster, sometimes it happens with your coaching staff too. 413 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:35,320 Speaker 1: And that's not even to mention there could just be 414 00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:37,600 Speaker 1: some folks up there that didn't like mel Tucker. Now 415 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:40,040 Speaker 1: I'm speaking purely hypothetically here. I don't know any of 416 00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:43,919 Speaker 1: that to be true. But sometimes there just happens to 417 00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:47,119 Speaker 1: be resentment for whoever is out or got suspended in 418 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:50,000 Speaker 1: the locker room, and there's an added motivation to play 419 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:53,200 Speaker 1: at your best because you want to show everyone without 420 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:56,359 Speaker 1: this person, we're better. Oh and by the way, you 421 00:21:56,440 --> 00:22:00,480 Speaker 1: want to defend home field in any scenario. So I'm 422 00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:02,280 Speaker 1: nervous about that. When that's like a seven and a half, 423 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:05,320 Speaker 1: maybe even seven and three quarter on the upset alert scale, 424 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:10,160 Speaker 1: Colorado State goes to Colorado. Yeah, that's happening. So now 425 00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:13,320 Speaker 1: what we have is we've got Colorado in a potential 426 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:15,480 Speaker 1: let down and look ahead spot. They go to Oregon 427 00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:18,000 Speaker 1: next week, and you would think this is going to 428 00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:20,200 Speaker 1: be a sleepy little game that only people in Colorado 429 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:22,720 Speaker 1: cared about, and then all of a sudden this happened. 430 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:24,440 Speaker 3: Are tired of it. And I sat down with the 431 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:26,080 Speaker 3: ESPNN today and I don't care if they hear it 432 00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:26,600 Speaker 3: in Boulder. 433 00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:28,560 Speaker 2: I told them I took my hat off, and I 434 00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:30,640 Speaker 2: took my glasses off, and I said, when I talked 435 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:33,200 Speaker 2: to growing ups, I take my hat and my glasses off. 436 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:38,199 Speaker 2: That's what my mother talked. So you know they're not 437 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:40,080 Speaker 2: gonna like us no matter what we say or do. 438 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:41,119 Speaker 2: It doesn't matter. 439 00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:45,119 Speaker 1: Okay, so let's go up there and play once again. 440 00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:48,200 Speaker 3: Why would you want to talk about us? We don't 441 00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:50,360 Speaker 3: talk about no batter. All we do is go out here, 442 00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:53,119 Speaker 3: workout but self and do I jab won't say. But 443 00:22:53,200 --> 00:23:01,040 Speaker 3: when they give us ammunition, it was just gonna be 444 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:05,640 Speaker 3: a good game. THEYMN mess round and made it. It's 445 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:08,040 Speaker 3: gonna be a great tests the Battle of Colorado. 446 00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:13,840 Speaker 1: But they'll mess round and made it. Guys, they messed 447 00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:17,280 Speaker 1: around and they done made it personal. What you just heard, 448 00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:19,520 Speaker 1: if you're listening on podcasts, was Colorado State head coach 449 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:22,080 Speaker 1: Jay Norvell breaking news. Jay Norvella is the head coach 450 00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:25,000 Speaker 1: of Colorado State, and you heard Deon Sanders wearing a 451 00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:30,000 Speaker 1: hat and wearing shades while talking to us. You know, 452 00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:32,680 Speaker 1: I think this stuff is stupid. However, I also think 453 00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:35,880 Speaker 1: it's thoroughly entertaining, and so I will wade into those 454 00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:38,720 Speaker 1: waters as well if anyone gives me an opportunity to. 455 00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:43,320 Speaker 1: College game Day is at Boulder this week at Boulder 456 00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:48,040 Speaker 1: in Boulder, and I saw ticket prices for this game. 457 00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:51,160 Speaker 1: The line's in the twenty three and a half range. 458 00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:55,760 Speaker 1: It's insane. What's happening out there, utterly insane. Now we're 459 00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:59,600 Speaker 1: talking about upset potential here. Colorado State somehow's coming off 460 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:02,680 Speaker 1: of bye again. I say somehow because it's only week three. 461 00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:08,160 Speaker 1: And secondly, yes, it's been a double dose of really 462 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:11,879 Speaker 1: high emotion, high leverage situations for Colorado. Weeks one and two. 463 00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:14,840 Speaker 1: They beat TCU, they beat Nebraska, they got Oregon and 464 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:20,440 Speaker 1: Southern col on deck. So in normal world college football, 465 00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:23,280 Speaker 1: this would be a letdown, look ahead trap, whatever you 466 00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:27,439 Speaker 1: want to call it spot, sandwich spot. Nothing about Colorado's normal, 467 00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:33,240 Speaker 1: and I don't think they're thinking like a typical championship 468 00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:36,200 Speaker 1: contender team is thinking. I still think they view all 469 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:40,200 Speaker 1: these games as equal because they weren't expected to do anything. 470 00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:43,040 Speaker 1: It's different, like they look at this thing and it's 471 00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:45,600 Speaker 1: just the next challenge. What I'm trying to say is 472 00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:48,200 Speaker 1: I don't think they get let down. I don't think 473 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:53,080 Speaker 1: they suffer to this point from the same potential pitfalls 474 00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:55,200 Speaker 1: that other teams do. I just think they're wired a 475 00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:57,520 Speaker 1: little different this year's version. That's not to say in 476 00:24:57,520 --> 00:25:00,560 Speaker 1: the future they won't revert back to the kind of 477 00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:03,240 Speaker 1: semi normal form of college football. I think they're gonna 478 00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:05,200 Speaker 1: run it up on Colorado State. That's what I think. 479 00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:07,119 Speaker 1: So I've got this like a two. I don't think 480 00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:09,520 Speaker 1: there's much of a threat of an upset here. I'm 481 00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:12,360 Speaker 1: the same person who laid twenty with TCU in Week 482 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:15,919 Speaker 1: one and had them victimize me. So I wouldn't be 483 00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:18,680 Speaker 1: taking my opinion on Colorado games to the bank just yet. 484 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:22,520 Speaker 1: There's money to be made elsewhere. But conference play is 485 00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:27,080 Speaker 1: on deck. Conference play beckons two conference games right here. 486 00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:31,080 Speaker 1: LSU is laying nine and a half at Mississippi State. Obviously, 487 00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:33,359 Speaker 1: I think the upset alert meter is very high on 488 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:36,240 Speaker 1: this one because we took Mississippi State and the points. 489 00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:39,880 Speaker 1: It's a ram Noodle Express best bet for us. It's 490 00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:43,120 Speaker 1: pretty simple for me. I got Mississippi State power rated 491 00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:45,560 Speaker 1: in my top twenty five, so I'm not gonna watch 492 00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:47,520 Speaker 1: them in good conscious be laying nine and a half 493 00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:51,480 Speaker 1: at home and not jump on it. And I also 494 00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:55,280 Speaker 1: watched the Arizona game last week and they were horrific, which, 495 00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:57,280 Speaker 1: as you know, the theory on this show is, if 496 00:25:57,280 --> 00:26:00,200 Speaker 1: you're bad, I don't expect you to try and replicate 497 00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:03,280 Speaker 1: whatever your ill fated game plan was. I expect you 498 00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:07,639 Speaker 1: to go another direction. But if they do attempt to 499 00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:10,520 Speaker 1: go the same direction, Mississippi State can run the ball 500 00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:13,800 Speaker 1: on LSU, at least if statistical profiles hold up from 501 00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:17,280 Speaker 1: so far this year. Now. While Mississippi State may be 502 00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:21,640 Speaker 1: elderly or as you might call them, experienced defensively, it's 503 00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:24,400 Speaker 1: not the fastest defense in the world to LSU's gonna 504 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:26,879 Speaker 1: have plays they can make too, probably a little bit 505 00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:30,320 Speaker 1: higher scoring game than the total indicates. I'm not taking 506 00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:32,359 Speaker 1: the over. I'm just saying that's my feel on it. 507 00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:34,479 Speaker 1: I've already got a side on this one. I am 508 00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:37,040 Speaker 1: taking Mississippi State plus the points. I didn't pick the 509 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:40,119 Speaker 1: outright upset, but obviously, if I think it's going to 510 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:42,120 Speaker 1: be in the single digits, I think there's a shot 511 00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:44,960 Speaker 1: at it. And also that South Carolina at Georgia game, 512 00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:47,120 Speaker 1: this game's already broken down on the channel. We've already 513 00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:50,080 Speaker 1: got an individual video on it. It's all about pressure. 514 00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:52,840 Speaker 1: Talked about it with Spencer Rattler. It's all about George's 515 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:57,200 Speaker 1: opportunity to either explode or be exposed. Either could happen here, 516 00:26:57,600 --> 00:26:59,800 Speaker 1: and if you're exposed, it doesn't have to be a loss. 517 00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:03,480 Speaker 1: Like I don't think the upset potential is particularly high. 518 00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:05,919 Speaker 1: It's a four touchdown spread, so I don't think the 519 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:09,199 Speaker 1: upset potential is particularly high. But the thing about it is, 520 00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:14,280 Speaker 1: if you beat South Carolina twenty six to twenty, there're 521 00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:16,840 Speaker 1: probably still a lot of things that Kirby Smart's having 522 00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:19,480 Speaker 1: to talk about in that postgame press conference that don't 523 00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:22,240 Speaker 1: feel real well and don't make you have the warm 524 00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:26,280 Speaker 1: fuzzies in your belly. And then you know you're saying 525 00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:28,960 Speaker 1: to yourself, man if Texas would have come in here, 526 00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:31,440 Speaker 1: they would have beaten US, just like they beat Alabama. 527 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:33,960 Speaker 1: Only things saving US is a softer schedule right now, 528 00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:38,119 Speaker 1: or George's up thirty to three at the half, and 529 00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:41,000 Speaker 1: that pass rush gets to Spencer Rattler and those wide 530 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:44,200 Speaker 1: receivers do break out and block really well on the perimeter, 531 00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:47,040 Speaker 1: and Carson Beck has himself an afternoon and that crowd 532 00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:51,120 Speaker 1: does what Kirby Smart's asked him to do. Literally, either 533 00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:54,200 Speaker 1: one can happen and would not surprise me. So my 534 00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:57,760 Speaker 1: upset meters not especially off the charts on this one. 535 00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:01,879 Speaker 1: It bears watching to me, even in a win, for 536 00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:04,119 Speaker 1: what Georgia could look like, many different versions of Georgia 537 00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:06,400 Speaker 1: we could see. Also, I think Florida's just gonna beat 538 00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:08,639 Speaker 1: ten at Tennessee. I picked Florida outright to beat them. 539 00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:13,600 Speaker 1: So that's the upset I'm on this weekend. I spoke 540 00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:16,080 Speaker 1: my piece on this the other night. I just think 541 00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:20,199 Speaker 1: Tennessee's going to probably be seen by America, most of 542 00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:23,520 Speaker 1: America for the first time, and you're gonna expect Tennessee 543 00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:25,199 Speaker 1: to be throwing the ball all over the place, and 544 00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:27,800 Speaker 1: that is not their offense. It is not They've got 545 00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:31,320 Speaker 1: two pass plays of over twenty yards. So far this year, 546 00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:33,919 Speaker 1: they have more rushing yards than passing yards. Some of 547 00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:36,280 Speaker 1: that's cause they've been playing in blowout games. I will 548 00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:38,800 Speaker 1: grant you that. I'm telling you, even in a tight, 549 00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:42,080 Speaker 1: one possession game, I think that's their offensive profile, that's 550 00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:45,120 Speaker 1: their offensive identity right now. The difference is Tennessee can 551 00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:48,120 Speaker 1: get after you a whole lot more defensively themselves. And 552 00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:50,680 Speaker 1: so I'm the one who stood on the sideline in 553 00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:54,920 Speaker 1: Salt Lake City and watched Florida struggle to even get 554 00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:56,960 Speaker 1: past the line of scrimmage on the ground. Are they 555 00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:58,760 Speaker 1: really going to be able to put up one twenty five, 556 00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:01,400 Speaker 1: one thirty, much less one seventy eight on the ground 557 00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:04,600 Speaker 1: against Tennessee? And if they can't, is Graham MERT's about 558 00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:07,240 Speaker 1: to win me a ball game through the air somehow? 559 00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:10,760 Speaker 1: I think it's going to happen. So that's at upset 560 00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:12,320 Speaker 1: meters all the way at a nine, nine and a 561 00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:15,600 Speaker 1: half for me. Upset, sir. They're good for the soul 562 00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:21,400 Speaker 1: unless you're pulling for the favorite. There should be not 563 00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:24,640 Speaker 1: a single not a single teary I nobody upset at 564 00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:28,959 Speaker 1: this news in Brenham Texas, which is in the Houston area. 565 00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:33,840 Speaker 1: Starting tomorrow through Sunday, we are opening a brand new 566 00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:36,800 Speaker 1: Academy Sports and Outdoors And if you want the address, 567 00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:39,840 Speaker 1: it's ten forty one Nolan Street. 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Let me remind you 598 00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:08,280 Speaker 1: Rominul Express. First off, I'm gonna give you another best 599 00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:11,360 Speaker 1: bet tonight. Make sure you're following on Instagram at late 600 00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:14,960 Speaker 1: kick Josh. That Instagram story will fire up Friday night 601 00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:18,440 Speaker 1: for Friday Night Lines. I announce it in the story 602 00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:22,960 Speaker 1: about an hour before we do it. So come one, 603 00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:25,440 Speaker 1: come on, immunity. All right, let's take a look at 604 00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:27,760 Speaker 1: which games we're on so Georgia Tech plus twenty and 605 00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:30,360 Speaker 1: a half at ol miss Ironically, that's the game Cublicle 606 00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:33,160 Speaker 1: will be calling Saturday. I'm on Georgia Tech plus the points. 607 00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:35,560 Speaker 1: I'm on Central Michigan plus thirty one and a half. 608 00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:38,800 Speaker 1: They are, by the way, playing Notre Dame. I am 609 00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:42,920 Speaker 1: on Mississippi State plus nine at home against LSU. We 610 00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:46,000 Speaker 1: are on Arizona minus seventeen and a half. Believe they're 611 00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:50,120 Speaker 1: playing UTEP out in Tucson. I'm on UL Monroe plus 612 00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:52,760 Speaker 1: thirty six and a half and they're on the road 613 00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:55,040 Speaker 1: at Texas A And m all right, Colin, what do 614 00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:59,040 Speaker 1: we add in tonight, paper Pop? Why not? Let's just 615 00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:02,240 Speaker 1: go with the Western Mission Michigan Broncos. And for the record, 616 00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:05,280 Speaker 1: we love all the directional Michigan schools this weekend. So 617 00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:08,840 Speaker 1: Friday Night Lines could could really be hanging out in 618 00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:11,520 Speaker 1: the state of Michigan tomorrow night. So Western Michigan, U 619 00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:17,760 Speaker 1: EL Monroe, Arizona, Mississippi State, Central Michigan, Georgia Tech. Remember 620 00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:21,000 Speaker 1: Friday Night Lines Tomorrow night for plenty more And there 621 00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:26,720 Speaker 1: you have it. And then we have a dude, I'm 622 00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:29,840 Speaker 1: always willing to bet on Cole kublick back, it's week 623 00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:33,320 Speaker 1: what three? Now you persevering you weather in the storm fairly? 624 00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:37,360 Speaker 2: Well, it's going okay. Last week was a little rough. 625 00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:42,440 Speaker 2: We had overtime in Starkville, and I thought to myself, Okay, cool, 626 00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:46,840 Speaker 2: I missed the Bama Texas traffic, but about ten miles 627 00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:49,320 Speaker 2: outside of Hoover, I hit the Bama Texas traffic. So 628 00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:52,040 Speaker 2: we were dead stand still there again. Had a couple 629 00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:55,960 Speaker 2: delays on Sunday, so we're a little behind on sleep, 630 00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:57,880 Speaker 2: but other than that we're good. Yeah's been fun years 631 00:32:57,880 --> 00:32:58,120 Speaker 2: so far. 632 00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:01,440 Speaker 1: Basically waved at you in that Bama Texas traffic. All right, 633 00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:07,080 Speaker 1: So Texas is to some degree back Southern calender, Lincoln Riley, 634 00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:09,840 Speaker 1: they're a contender. We saw what FSU did with Norvel, 635 00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:11,680 Speaker 1: So you and I were on the phone the other day. 636 00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:14,240 Speaker 1: We were kind of talking about this because everybody's got 637 00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:16,240 Speaker 1: to take on NIL, everyone's got to take on the 638 00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:19,000 Speaker 1: portal and what it's done to college football. So there's 639 00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:24,280 Speaker 1: this overwhelming thought out there that that's open college football up, 640 00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:27,760 Speaker 1: and I think that's true. I don't know that it's 641 00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:30,520 Speaker 1: true the way people describe it, like people describe it 642 00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:34,120 Speaker 1: as if Minnesota at any given second could just randomly 643 00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:36,240 Speaker 1: appear in the playoff picture. And I don't think that's 644 00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:39,040 Speaker 1: what Nil in the portal has done. What I think, 645 00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:40,960 Speaker 1: and you can give me every thought you have on 646 00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:44,080 Speaker 1: this is Yeah, it may have shaved like the top 647 00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:48,080 Speaker 1: of the trees, so it may have shaved ten percent 648 00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:51,040 Speaker 1: off of elite rosters any given year, but that ten 649 00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:56,120 Speaker 1: percent just going to other historically elite programs. So it's 650 00:33:56,160 --> 00:34:00,200 Speaker 1: not South Florida coming to the table, it's FSU, it's 651 00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:02,960 Speaker 1: not San Diego State coming to the table, it's USC 652 00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:06,640 Speaker 1: And so the folks who who want parody, you're gonna 653 00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:09,120 Speaker 1: get it. But it really just circles back to the 654 00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:11,440 Speaker 1: same teams that have been historically good, and then you 655 00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:13,799 Speaker 1: got the Texas or the FSUs and the USC's that 656 00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:15,719 Speaker 1: always should have been good but couldn't get out of 657 00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:18,800 Speaker 1: their own way the process back to the main table 658 00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:21,440 Speaker 1: that's now kind of been expedited like that. That's all 659 00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:24,400 Speaker 1: I see? Can you is there's something I'm missing here? 660 00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:26,600 Speaker 1: Is there something the portaland NIL is doing that's truly 661 00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:29,920 Speaker 1: revolutionizing the sport and putting new seats at the table, 662 00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:31,839 Speaker 1: or is it just seats that always once were there, 663 00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:34,960 Speaker 1: that they're pretty much there again, I think a. 664 00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:36,560 Speaker 2: Lot of what you described I would agree with and 665 00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:39,000 Speaker 2: say that it's accurate. I think there's another big portion 666 00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:43,359 Speaker 2: of this where when people see Texas beat Alabama, when 667 00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:46,799 Speaker 2: people see maybe Georgia not being what they were last 668 00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:49,080 Speaker 2: year the year before, or other teams that we viewed 669 00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:52,280 Speaker 2: as national championship contenders or teams that were super talented 670 00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:54,719 Speaker 2: either lose or even have games that were too competitive 671 00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:58,640 Speaker 2: for their fans liking what is happening. Also, in my opinion, Josh, 672 00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:02,400 Speaker 2: is that it's not a allowing the Ohio State, Alabama, 673 00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:07,160 Speaker 2: Clemson's to be that much further ahead of everybody else. 674 00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:12,200 Speaker 2: So the two lap lead that the premier schools once had, 675 00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:15,680 Speaker 2: I feel like that's been shaved down greatly, and that 676 00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:19,360 Speaker 2: distribution of wealth, as you said, I think the majority 677 00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:21,160 Speaker 2: of it is going to other schools that at one 678 00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:23,560 Speaker 2: point in time have been relevant or been a school 679 00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:26,160 Speaker 2: that we would consider to be a power. And then 680 00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:28,080 Speaker 2: you have teams that, yeah, they can make a little 681 00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:30,320 Speaker 2: bit of a jump. The other thing I've noticed a 682 00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:32,000 Speaker 2: couple things in college football this year, and I think 683 00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:35,880 Speaker 2: the portal plays into this. The continuity of college football 684 00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:38,400 Speaker 2: teams is nowhere near where it needs to be. 685 00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:43,680 Speaker 1: Oh that's interest physical, that's interesting. Okay, So I would 686 00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:46,440 Speaker 1: never interrupt you except this one time, cause that kind 687 00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:48,600 Speaker 1: of bleeds in. I want you to basically merge these 688 00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:52,080 Speaker 1: two things. So the continuity thing, there a lot of 689 00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:55,080 Speaker 1: folks thought nil and transferportal would fracture locker room. So 690 00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:57,080 Speaker 1: you can tell me what you mean by continuity. But 691 00:35:57,200 --> 00:35:59,200 Speaker 1: also there's this other thing you and I were talking 692 00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:00,680 Speaker 1: about the other day. I want you to expound on 693 00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:03,839 Speaker 1: just the overall max effort that you would have seen 694 00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:06,360 Speaker 1: twenty years ago and to what degree we're still seeing 695 00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:09,720 Speaker 1: that go on that I think those. 696 00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:11,360 Speaker 2: Are a couple of the things that all go together. 697 00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:14,920 Speaker 2: So continuity, whether it's offensive lines being able to play together, 698 00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:17,240 Speaker 2: trade off a twist, being able to pick up a pressure, 699 00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:20,440 Speaker 2: understanding protections. It's why we have a slide protection epidemic 700 00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:22,480 Speaker 2: in this country right now. And you can call it 701 00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:25,960 Speaker 2: slap or slide protection, you can call it gap protection, 702 00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:28,440 Speaker 2: you can tell it jet protection, quick protection, whatever it is. 703 00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:30,680 Speaker 2: But when you see an offensive line all in sync, 704 00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:33,800 Speaker 2: just move one way and then stop, that's quick protection. 705 00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:36,600 Speaker 2: There are way too many teams that are overly reliant 706 00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:38,800 Speaker 2: on that in college football right now, and it's getting 707 00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:41,399 Speaker 2: people beat. Texas A and M had a big problem 708 00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:43,160 Speaker 2: with it. Alabama's got a problem with it. There are 709 00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:44,960 Speaker 2: a lot of teams that are just overly reliant. They 710 00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:46,960 Speaker 2: don't want to let their guys block people up. And 711 00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:49,000 Speaker 2: I think that goes to the physical portion and the 712 00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:52,279 Speaker 2: continuity portion of not understanding how pressures are going to 713 00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:56,080 Speaker 2: hit you, not understanding man protection if you will, as in, 714 00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:59,279 Speaker 2: if my man doesn't come, where do I go? What 715 00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:02,200 Speaker 2: do I do? In slide protection, what happens is guys 716 00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:03,879 Speaker 2: are taking their one step to the left and they're 717 00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:06,320 Speaker 2: just sitting there. There's no playing with your eyes anymore. 718 00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:08,440 Speaker 2: There's no understanding of I don't have to go as far. 719 00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:10,239 Speaker 2: I can stay here and help this guy and then 720 00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:12,600 Speaker 2: maybe peek out to the side. Somebody comes off the corner. 721 00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:14,160 Speaker 2: I can leave late and go pick him up. My 722 00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:17,600 Speaker 2: quarterbacks still has time. I think that's reps playing football together, 723 00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:19,560 Speaker 2: as being in the same mocker room, being in the 724 00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:23,000 Speaker 2: same film room. It's practice time together that's all been limited, 725 00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:25,560 Speaker 2: so it's gone away. Then there's the physical portion of it. 726 00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:28,399 Speaker 2: The physicality is very different right now, and this could 727 00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:30,000 Speaker 2: pick up across the course of the year. I think 728 00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:32,440 Speaker 2: back to I can't remember what year Trace Smiths last 729 00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:35,680 Speaker 2: year at Tennessee was twenty eighteen, maybe twenty seventeen, nineteen, 730 00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:38,799 Speaker 2: whatever it was, but Trace Smith struggled early in the year. 731 00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:40,719 Speaker 2: And Trace SMIs one of my all time favorite college 732 00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:44,680 Speaker 2: football players. And he had the blood clot situation and 733 00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:46,680 Speaker 2: he was on medication, but he couldn't practice when he 734 00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:48,759 Speaker 2: was on medication, so he'd come off and then he'd play, 735 00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:52,120 Speaker 2: and like week seven eight, we get Tennessee again, totally 736 00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:54,400 Speaker 2: a different player. He looked like the dominant guy that 737 00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:56,560 Speaker 2: he was two years prior, and we had him and 738 00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:59,120 Speaker 2: I just asked him, I said, were you essentially using 739 00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:03,040 Speaker 2: games as practice? He said, I had to. I couldn't 740 00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:05,400 Speaker 2: go out there and hit on Monday through Friday. So 741 00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:07,520 Speaker 2: when I got into a game, that was my time 742 00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:10,399 Speaker 2: to reacclimate myself. That was my practice time, so to speak. 743 00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:12,239 Speaker 2: And when I say practice time in games, I don't 744 00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:15,200 Speaker 2: mean that people are taking teams lightly or they're pretending 745 00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:18,200 Speaker 2: like they're playing. It's not that. It's just that, like 746 00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:20,080 Speaker 2: McElroy and I were talking about this the other day, 747 00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:21,839 Speaker 2: and he actually stopped me on it, and is his point. 748 00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:23,840 Speaker 2: So I'll give him credit for he doesn't steal ideas 749 00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:25,960 Speaker 2: like you do, I'll say, or I guess I don't 750 00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:28,319 Speaker 2: steal ideas like you do. But he was like, cal, 751 00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:30,560 Speaker 2: I can't believe as a guy that loves line play, 752 00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:33,160 Speaker 2: you're kind of missing this. He said, these kids aren't 753 00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:35,360 Speaker 2: ready for the season right now. That's why this is 754 00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:37,279 Speaker 2: where we are. And you combine that with all the 755 00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:39,719 Speaker 2: things you were just talking about, he said, think about 756 00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:42,240 Speaker 2: five years ago, eight years ago, ten years ago, fifteen 757 00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:45,719 Speaker 2: years ago. He said, through two weeks of games, we 758 00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:48,600 Speaker 2: still had when we played him, not as far along 759 00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:50,759 Speaker 2: and go as I was, I a lot longer ago 760 00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:54,720 Speaker 2: than he did. We still had more plays, not game plays, 761 00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:57,320 Speaker 2: not practice plays, but combined in full paths where we 762 00:38:57,400 --> 00:39:00,000 Speaker 2: hit each other than these teams right now probably already 763 00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:02,719 Speaker 2: do through two games. So we were just more physically 764 00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:05,799 Speaker 2: acclimated to go play. Now, going back to the continuity 765 00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:07,960 Speaker 2: and the physicality, I think there's a comfort level that 766 00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:10,719 Speaker 2: some teams just have. Think about Texas. All five of 767 00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:13,359 Speaker 2: those offensive linemen played together last year. Quinn your has 768 00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:15,960 Speaker 2: been throwing seven on seven in practice and in the 769 00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:19,160 Speaker 2: summer out there in shirts and shorts and messing around 770 00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:20,759 Speaker 2: with his guys in the locker room like they've been 771 00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:22,640 Speaker 2: He's been around those guys for almost three years now. 772 00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:26,480 Speaker 2: They know each other extremely well. That nonverbal communication is there, 773 00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:28,759 Speaker 2: they don't have to worry about it, and then I 774 00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:32,000 Speaker 2: think the max effort part also comes with comfort and 775 00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:35,480 Speaker 2: understanding and guys who have been around it. Now. There 776 00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:37,719 Speaker 2: are very few teams that I see on film, Josh, 777 00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:41,240 Speaker 2: that are just pardon my friends, playing their asses off. 778 00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:44,880 Speaker 2: There's just not many of them. Go watch the Miami 779 00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:47,000 Speaker 2: film against Texas A and M Yeah, there was a 780 00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:50,120 Speaker 2: lot of scheme involved in that. Those guys played like 781 00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:53,120 Speaker 2: their hair was on fire, Like they literally played like 782 00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:55,839 Speaker 2: their families' lives were on the line. I haven't seen 783 00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:57,799 Speaker 2: a lot of teams play that way this year. It's 784 00:39:57,800 --> 00:39:59,880 Speaker 2: one of the reasons I was so complimentary of Arizona 785 00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:03,280 Speaker 2: in that Missippi State game. Their defense plays a similar fashion, 786 00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:05,719 Speaker 2: like they almost look like they're playing to knock you 787 00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:07,279 Speaker 2: out of the game. And it's not dirty at all. 788 00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:10,360 Speaker 2: It's blatantly obvious that Chuck secils a member that defensive 789 00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:13,360 Speaker 2: staff because they play like he is. So I just 790 00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:15,600 Speaker 2: think that it's taken away a little. I don't some 791 00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:18,880 Speaker 2: people would say, buy in investment. Are they truly invested? 792 00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:21,640 Speaker 2: Are they at that place for the right reasons? Whatever? 793 00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:23,279 Speaker 2: All that. It could be a little bit of all 794 00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:25,560 Speaker 2: of it. But there's not a lot of teams playing 795 00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:28,359 Speaker 2: one hundred miles an hour right now. And it will 796 00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:30,120 Speaker 2: be very different when you and I are sitting here 797 00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:32,440 Speaker 2: five six weeks from now, because some teams are going 798 00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:34,520 Speaker 2: to grow into that and some teams are going to 799 00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:37,640 Speaker 2: gain that continuity, and it's all gonna make sense, and 800 00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:39,600 Speaker 2: that's going to add to what they can do and 801 00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:41,799 Speaker 2: what they can prevent other people doing when they're played 802 00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:42,279 Speaker 2: against them. 803 00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:45,520 Speaker 1: Here's what's wild now. People in some cases have watched 804 00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:47,279 Speaker 1: the sport for a long time, some of them have 805 00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:50,000 Speaker 1: even played it, and I got them sitting here on 806 00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:54,360 Speaker 1: camera or on radio or pod or the internet saying 807 00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:58,319 Speaker 1: in definitive terms, this team can't do this, that team 808 00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:00,840 Speaker 1: can't do that. And in some case they're talking about 809 00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:05,040 Speaker 1: really skilled rosters that like you're talking about, probably just 810 00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:07,319 Speaker 1: haven't jailed yet. Memhi, I used to make jello all 811 00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:08,920 Speaker 1: the time. There's a reason she wouldn't let me open 812 00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:10,840 Speaker 1: the fridge five minutes after she put it in there. 813 00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:14,319 Speaker 1: Difference is that fridge time used to be fall camp, 814 00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:16,600 Speaker 1: and now it's like week one, two three. It happens 815 00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:19,040 Speaker 1: every year, though even more to a degree now than 816 00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:21,879 Speaker 1: it used to. But some team starts to scale and 817 00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:24,720 Speaker 1: you find yourself saying, oh, who would have seen this coming? Well, 818 00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:27,080 Speaker 1: you don't necessarily have to have seen it coming on 819 00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:30,080 Speaker 1: an individual basis, but you don't have to be totally 820 00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:33,480 Speaker 1: blindsided by it either. Learn lessons from the past and 821 00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:37,200 Speaker 1: know Clemson LSU Bama, like one of these teams is 822 00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:39,520 Speaker 1: gonna end up in the thick of contention in November 823 00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:42,360 Speaker 1: and half y'all have already written them off. Shame on. 824 00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:43,560 Speaker 1: You couldn't be us, couldn't be us. 825 00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:48,840 Speaker 2: Okay. Well, Also, maybe going into seasons moving forward, we 826 00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:50,960 Speaker 2: should all take a little bit more of a and 827 00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:53,400 Speaker 2: I'm not saying all the way to this endo the spectrum, 828 00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:56,320 Speaker 2: but a little bit more of a Colorado approach where 829 00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:58,839 Speaker 2: we went into this season. I know some of us 830 00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:03,440 Speaker 2: went into this season. I don't know. I can't tell you. 831 00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:06,040 Speaker 2: I have no idea, And I was not afraid to 832 00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:07,680 Speaker 2: say it, by the way, I was not afraid to 833 00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:09,319 Speaker 2: sit there and tell you, guys, I don't know if 834 00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:13,040 Speaker 2: college is gonna run two or ten. I don't know. Yeah, 835 00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:15,880 Speaker 2: haven't seen them play together. Eighty percent of the roster's 836 00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:18,320 Speaker 2: been flipped. I know they got a great offensive coordinator. 837 00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:19,719 Speaker 2: I know they got a great staff. I know they 838 00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:21,200 Speaker 2: got a good head coach that knows how to do 839 00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:23,640 Speaker 2: the things that he does extremely well. But we're talking 840 00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:26,560 Speaker 2: about playing football. Those aren't all those things. So we 841 00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:29,120 Speaker 2: didn't know what that was gonna be. And there's gonna 842 00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:31,600 Speaker 2: be more of that, either in the super positive direction 843 00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:34,279 Speaker 2: or in the super negative direction with all because a 844 00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:37,200 Speaker 2: we're at a where at a max turnover level in 845 00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:41,600 Speaker 2: college football right now annually, and that includes staff. I mean, 846 00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:43,400 Speaker 2: we got guys going different places at a rate that 847 00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:45,719 Speaker 2: we've never seen and way ahead of where it's ever been. 848 00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:48,359 Speaker 2: So there's gonna be a lot of this that sub 849 00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:50,600 Speaker 2: that happens that we had and was going to look 850 00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:50,919 Speaker 2: that way. 851 00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:55,759 Speaker 1: Are you let's talk about rivalry games, not weeks, but 852 00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:58,960 Speaker 1: a rivalry game in the SEC. Are you as bothered 853 00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:02,839 Speaker 1: by me when people just gloss over these games like 854 00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:05,840 Speaker 1: Tennessee Alabama or they did it with Tennessee Obama for 855 00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:09,920 Speaker 1: a while Tennessee Florida. They just kind of gloss over it. 856 00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:13,400 Speaker 1: I love, love, love that we got a massive college 857 00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:17,640 Speaker 1: audience that watches this show, but they're working with one 858 00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:20,640 Speaker 1: hand tie behind their back, because if you're nineteen years old, 859 00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:24,120 Speaker 1: you have no concept of why this is even called 860 00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:28,280 Speaker 1: a rivalry or why it's so storied. Like they'll bring 861 00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:31,120 Speaker 1: it on on ESPN Saturday Night, and I guarantee you 862 00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:35,600 Speaker 1: they'll prepackage footage from the Spurrier era or the Fulmer era, 863 00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:37,840 Speaker 1: and you'll be watching it and you'll say, what is 864 00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:41,160 Speaker 1: this even? What era is this? And what planet was this? 865 00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:45,520 Speaker 1: Played college football, we always pride ourselves on history and tradition, 866 00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:49,240 Speaker 1: right well, in the modern age, it feels like there's 867 00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:53,600 Speaker 1: this portion of the college football public that if a game, 868 00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:56,640 Speaker 1: if a matchup hasn't been playoff relevant in the last 869 00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:59,440 Speaker 1: five years, it's just a trash game. It's just a 870 00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:03,239 Speaker 1: garbage game. This has a ton of intrigue. Man Like Bill, 871 00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:05,320 Speaker 1: I don't know that any coach is under more pressure 872 00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:08,600 Speaker 1: this Saturday or this weekend. And Billy napier is I 873 00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:11,239 Speaker 1: actually went out on the limb of picking them to 874 00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:13,960 Speaker 1: win the game, because I happen to think the dynamic 875 00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:16,040 Speaker 1: with Tennessee's offense is a little different than how people 876 00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:19,040 Speaker 1: perceive it. And man, that's a total back against the 877 00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:22,160 Speaker 1: wall moment for Florida this Saturday, big recruiting weekend down there. 878 00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:24,600 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna go as far as to say must win, 879 00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:27,600 Speaker 1: but I'm not stopping well short of that. It is 880 00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:31,160 Speaker 1: a really big game for them. And look, you know 881 00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:33,600 Speaker 1: my thought. I think we're training towards the season where 882 00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:36,200 Speaker 1: we got massive upsets every weekend. It's not gonna be 883 00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:39,839 Speaker 1: a one or two weekend deal. So think about this though, 884 00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:42,439 Speaker 1: Like you're in Birmingham on radio, you guys take calls 885 00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:44,960 Speaker 1: about this. Do people even talk about Tennessee Florida right 886 00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:45,719 Speaker 1: now in the vein? 887 00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:49,040 Speaker 2: They used to not the way that they should. And 888 00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:50,759 Speaker 2: we had a great example of what you were talking 889 00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:53,239 Speaker 2: about last year. Damian Mitchell, one of the producers on 890 00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:55,520 Speaker 2: our show in the morning. God love him. I think 891 00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:57,640 Speaker 2: he's twenty two, but his brain is eleven when it 892 00:44:57,680 --> 00:45:01,440 Speaker 2: comes to college football, and he lost his mind last 893 00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:03,319 Speaker 2: year when Greg and I started talking about how cool 894 00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:05,120 Speaker 2: it was to have this game back like this game 895 00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:07,920 Speaker 2: actually means something some real relevance with this game, as 896 00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:10,480 Speaker 2: in things to play for and things at the end 897 00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:12,440 Speaker 2: of the season where this might be the game we 898 00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:14,719 Speaker 2: look back on and say, remember what happened in that one, 899 00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:17,960 Speaker 2: That's why this team is here. I'll educate some of 900 00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:21,600 Speaker 2: the younger listeners. This was a freaking playoff game. Before 901 00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:25,160 Speaker 2: there was a playoff. You go ninety six, ninety eight, 902 00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:28,600 Speaker 2: ninety nine, ninety seven, eighty nine like this, This was 903 00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:32,319 Speaker 2: a playoff game. The amount of NFL talent in the 904 00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:34,799 Speaker 2: mid to late nineties that took the field when these 905 00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:38,120 Speaker 2: two teams played one another was disgusting. It was LSU 906 00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:42,640 Speaker 2: Alabama nine esque every single year, and not just quarterbacks 907 00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:47,120 Speaker 2: and receivers, tailbacks, offensive linemen, defensive linement, corner, safeties and 908 00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:50,880 Speaker 2: big players made big games seemingly every year in this game. 909 00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:53,800 Speaker 2: And that was mean. That was like the Daniel Moore painting. 910 00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:55,200 Speaker 2: And I don't even know if there's a Daniel Moore 911 00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:57,200 Speaker 2: for Tennessee or Florida, because I know all Daniel Moore 912 00:45:57,200 --> 00:46:00,960 Speaker 2: paints's Alabama pictures. But if they did have an artists whatever, 913 00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:04,520 Speaker 2: whoever the monet for Tennessee is, it would come from 914 00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:07,200 Speaker 2: that game if they won it every year, and they 915 00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:09,160 Speaker 2: would have the two players with the jerseys of what 916 00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:11,160 Speaker 2: the score was, trying to hide that in the background, 917 00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:13,080 Speaker 2: and like Smokey would be jumping right next to the coach, 918 00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:14,879 Speaker 2: even though we know he never really gets that close 919 00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:17,919 Speaker 2: to the head coach. But this game is huge, man, 920 00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:20,120 Speaker 2: and it always will. This is why I'm upset we're 921 00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:22,279 Speaker 2: getting away from divisions. That's a whole other show you 922 00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:24,439 Speaker 2: and I can do another day. But I have said 923 00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:29,279 Speaker 2: for a long time we stop the word rivalry when 924 00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:32,879 Speaker 2: we talk about college football way too soon, boom, way 925 00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:36,480 Speaker 2: too soon, because we take rivalry and it's all the 926 00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:38,799 Speaker 2: games that we get Thanksgiving Day and for the rest 927 00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:40,239 Speaker 2: of that weekend, and then we don't talk about it. 928 00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:42,560 Speaker 2: Oh well maybe Georgia Florida. Okay, that one, Okay, well 929 00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:44,120 Speaker 2: I'll give you that one. But then there's no more. 930 00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:46,759 Speaker 2: And I'm just like, it's not just the Civil War, 931 00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:49,240 Speaker 2: it's not just the Iron Bowl, it's not just the game. 932 00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:55,120 Speaker 2: Games have meaning because you are emotionally invested in them. 933 00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:58,640 Speaker 2: And if an Auburn fan has gone a lifetime of 934 00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:01,520 Speaker 2: back and forth with mississipp State or Old miss or 935 00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:04,520 Speaker 2: an LSU fan has had a lifetime of going back 936 00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:07,480 Speaker 2: and forth with Arkansas, and he remembers what Darren McFadden 937 00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:10,360 Speaker 2: did to them, and he remembers double Duty Davenport catching 938 00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:13,640 Speaker 2: three touchdowns against somebody. Also remembers Booker McFarland getting five 939 00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:16,279 Speaker 2: sacks and how happy he was after that. And if 940 00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:17,920 Speaker 2: you got beat you knew you were getting them the 941 00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:19,440 Speaker 2: next year, And if it happened on the roads, you 942 00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:21,799 Speaker 2: knew you were getting them at home. But you were 943 00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:25,279 Speaker 2: so emotionally invested in how those things happened, when those 944 00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:28,719 Speaker 2: things happened, why those things happened, that it meant more 945 00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:31,400 Speaker 2: to you. There was more of your brain and heart 946 00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:34,160 Speaker 2: that cared about that game than all the other games, 947 00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:35,920 Speaker 2: even if they were teams that were better and more 948 00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:38,919 Speaker 2: important and would actually mean more to your ranking that year. 949 00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:42,400 Speaker 2: This one has a ton of that, a boatload of that, 950 00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:44,680 Speaker 2: and it will for a long time, even if a 951 00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:47,160 Speaker 2: seventeen year old doesn't think that right now, I promise 952 00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:47,879 Speaker 2: you it still does. 953 00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:52,120 Speaker 1: Yeah. Here's the other thing. Like down at Auburn, it 954 00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:56,440 Speaker 1: playing Bama. It's one game in the conference standings, but 955 00:47:56,560 --> 00:47:59,239 Speaker 1: yet the names that get remembered around there the names 956 00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:02,680 Speaker 1: that get remembered around LSU or the names that you're 957 00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:06,160 Speaker 1: remembered around college shifs, you can pick it. It usually 958 00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:09,120 Speaker 1: coincides with the fact that they put up really good numbers. 959 00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:12,439 Speaker 1: But in these games, these circle rivalry games, they did 960 00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:15,880 Speaker 1: something or they did a platter full of some things. 961 00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:18,440 Speaker 1: And the thing about it is like someone will do 962 00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:21,520 Speaker 1: that Saturday. If I'm telling you right now now, this 963 00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:24,440 Speaker 1: sounds crazy, This sounds like outer space stuff. Based on 964 00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:28,319 Speaker 1: Week one, what if one of those Florida tailbacks just 965 00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:31,040 Speaker 1: goes for like one thirty eight and three touchdowns after 966 00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:33,799 Speaker 1: they put up like thirteen yards total and in week 967 00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:37,000 Speaker 1: one and Florida wins thirty to twenty seven, and that's 968 00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:38,720 Speaker 1: what gets them back on track, and all of a sudden, 969 00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:41,799 Speaker 1: we fast forward to week eight or week nine and 970 00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:44,760 Speaker 1: it's Florida plus eight against Georgia, and all of a sudden, 971 00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:47,359 Speaker 1: that's a competitive game out of nowhere. That's the kind 972 00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:49,360 Speaker 1: of stuff they write about a generation from now, and 973 00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:51,319 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, the same folks who are calling 974 00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:54,120 Speaker 1: the game trash right now are telling us seventeen year old, 975 00:48:54,120 --> 00:48:56,919 Speaker 1: seventeen years from now, you need to respect this game 976 00:48:56,960 --> 00:48:58,560 Speaker 1: that's what you need to do. You need to learn 977 00:48:58,640 --> 00:48:59,920 Speaker 1: some respect for this game. 978 00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:04,560 Speaker 2: Where do you come up with this stuff? I sometimes 979 00:49:04,560 --> 00:49:06,480 Speaker 2: this is why I hate watching your show, because I 980 00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:08,440 Speaker 2: don't know how you like how your brain gets to 981 00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:12,120 Speaker 2: these places. But what you just said about certain players 982 00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:16,279 Speaker 2: who in the grand scope of that school, that university, 983 00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:19,040 Speaker 2: and that that team's history might not be massive, and 984 00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:21,319 Speaker 2: you said Auburn LSU, I'll throw a couple of names out. 985 00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:24,040 Speaker 2: Cecil Collins know what not A lot of people know 986 00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:25,920 Speaker 2: who Cecil Collins is. But he ran for like two 987 00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:28,040 Speaker 2: eighty nine against US in Death Valley one night, and 988 00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:29,880 Speaker 2: a Rondelle Meey added like one to eighty seven to 989 00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:31,600 Speaker 2: that game, and we found a way to win. Damian 990 00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:33,440 Speaker 2: Craig drove us down and we won the game. But 991 00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:35,040 Speaker 2: he had some issues off the field. He didn't play 992 00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:36,799 Speaker 2: a lot of football there, but he was huge that night. 993 00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:41,000 Speaker 2: Jamie Howard are there are a lot of young LSU 994 00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:42,880 Speaker 2: fans and Auburn fans that know about Jamie Howard right 995 00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:45,960 Speaker 2: now looking around, But I know he threw five interceptions 996 00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:47,520 Speaker 2: in a game and two of them were picked sixes. 997 00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:49,000 Speaker 2: And Auburn found a way to come back from like 998 00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:50,759 Speaker 2: four touchdowns down in the second half and win the 999 00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:52,680 Speaker 2: game at Jordan Hare Stadium. Like those are the kind 1000 00:49:52,719 --> 00:49:55,880 Speaker 2: of names you're talking about that we'll live on forever 1001 00:49:56,320 --> 00:49:58,759 Speaker 2: and ever and ever. But just because they're not in 1002 00:49:58,760 --> 00:50:00,440 Speaker 2: that team's Hall of Fame or the college Football Hall 1003 00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:03,120 Speaker 2: of Fame or play ten years in the NFL, not 1004 00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:05,360 Speaker 2: a lot of people know why that player had the 1005 00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:08,520 Speaker 2: meaning that they did. And that's what makes them beautiful, 1006 00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:09,439 Speaker 2: that's what makes them great. 1007 00:50:10,719 --> 00:50:14,279 Speaker 1: So you didn't necessarily get a ton of the Alabama 1008 00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:16,480 Speaker 1: miss eh Texas traffic. You got caught up in a 1009 00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:20,239 Speaker 1: little bit of it, but the game happened. So while 1010 00:50:20,239 --> 00:50:23,040 Speaker 1: you were over in Starkville last week going to overtime, 1011 00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:25,200 Speaker 1: I was in Tuscaloosa at a game that did not 1012 00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:28,560 Speaker 1: need ot By the way, let's picture this now. Pictures 1013 00:50:28,560 --> 00:50:31,600 Speaker 1: standing in Bryant Denny Stadium and you're looking around and 1014 00:50:31,640 --> 00:50:34,520 Speaker 1: it's emptying out midway through the fourth quarter, and you're thinking, oh, 1015 00:50:34,520 --> 00:50:37,040 Speaker 1: I saw that against Middle Tennessee State Week one. We've 1016 00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:39,600 Speaker 1: seen it many times. What you haven't seen is you 1017 00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:42,919 Speaker 1: haven't seen it cause the home team is getting beat 1018 00:50:43,160 --> 00:50:46,279 Speaker 1: by double digits. That's what was so crazy about that. 1019 00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:48,960 Speaker 1: So everyone's had their take on this this week. I 1020 00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:51,800 Speaker 1: got to tell you what was pretty surreal. So earlier 1021 00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:55,000 Speaker 1: in the week I kind of relayed some feedback I 1022 00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:56,680 Speaker 1: had got. I know, it sounded like I was just 1023 00:50:56,719 --> 00:50:58,880 Speaker 1: coming off the cuff, but there are a lot of 1024 00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:01,640 Speaker 1: folks who think the Bama coaching staff below Nick Saban 1025 00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:03,839 Speaker 1: is not on par with some of the ones they've 1026 00:51:03,840 --> 00:51:06,279 Speaker 1: had in the past, which is easy to tell because 1027 00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:08,000 Speaker 1: the ones they've had in the past were like all 1028 00:51:08,040 --> 00:51:12,239 Speaker 1: time staffs. So here's what's crazy. I got a ton 1029 00:51:12,239 --> 00:51:16,120 Speaker 1: of feedback on that, and overwhelmingly people around the program agreed. 1030 00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:19,320 Speaker 1: And then Saban steps to the podium. What are we Thursday? 1031 00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:22,040 Speaker 1: So last night he steps to the podium and he said, yeah, 1032 00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:24,640 Speaker 1: people have been calling me all week saying, hey, these 1033 00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:27,719 Speaker 1: guys are jerks for criticizing you, But I'm like, they're 1034 00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:31,520 Speaker 1: not wrong. We should be criticized, which was real funny, 1035 00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:33,799 Speaker 1: and I just I just took it upon myself to 1036 00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:36,680 Speaker 1: let everyone know he's probably talking about our show, because 1037 00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:39,520 Speaker 1: that's the kind of guy I am. But you and 1038 00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:41,560 Speaker 1: I were big on this offensive line, and it was 1039 00:51:41,560 --> 00:51:45,480 Speaker 1: a rough performance for them the other night. No explosive 1040 00:51:45,520 --> 00:51:50,279 Speaker 1: plays on the ground hardly and the game plan or 1041 00:51:50,440 --> 00:51:53,520 Speaker 1: maybe lack thereof, to feature Jalen Milroe. Just a lot 1042 00:51:53,520 --> 00:51:57,759 Speaker 1: of stuff look discombobulated. So I've spoken my piece on it. 1043 00:51:58,000 --> 00:52:00,800 Speaker 1: What are your thoughts about what is wrong with Bama? 1044 00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:03,560 Speaker 1: If you think there's something wrong with Bama? 1045 00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:05,200 Speaker 2: I don't know. If it's that there are a lot 1046 00:52:05,239 --> 00:52:06,920 Speaker 2: of things wrong. Let's also think about that this is 1047 00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:09,160 Speaker 2: a team that had the lead going into the fourth quarter, 1048 00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:12,560 Speaker 2: had multiple turnovers, was miserable on third down, and wasn't 1049 00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:15,680 Speaker 2: a very balanced football team throughout. There's a lot of 1050 00:52:15,719 --> 00:52:18,399 Speaker 2: other reasons that you could point to and say these 1051 00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:21,160 Speaker 2: also contributed to why they lost the game. The offensive 1052 00:52:21,160 --> 00:52:23,680 Speaker 2: line didn't play well. Texas has a really good d line. 1053 00:52:23,719 --> 00:52:26,440 Speaker 2: You and I talked last week ninety three and ninety 1054 00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:27,680 Speaker 2: were going to be a problem. I didn't know if 1055 00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:29,160 Speaker 2: ninety five was going to be that much of a 1056 00:52:29,160 --> 00:52:31,120 Speaker 2: problem as he was for that Texas front. But they 1057 00:52:31,160 --> 00:52:34,279 Speaker 2: were Texas defense a little bit of what we talked 1058 00:52:34,320 --> 00:52:36,400 Speaker 2: about earlier in the show. They look like they wanted 1059 00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:39,319 Speaker 2: it a little bit more. Texas's offensive line took it 1060 00:52:39,360 --> 00:52:41,759 Speaker 2: to that Alabama front seven. They've been almost a non 1061 00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:44,480 Speaker 2: factor in eight quarters of football against Steve Sarkisian. So 1062 00:52:45,040 --> 00:52:47,200 Speaker 2: for him to be able to remove those guys that 1063 00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:49,840 Speaker 2: have played on that Alabama front, that's a problem. It 1064 00:52:49,840 --> 00:52:51,399 Speaker 2: doesn't allow you to do the things that you need 1065 00:52:51,440 --> 00:52:56,640 Speaker 2: to do offensively. Motion based matchup offense. That's what sark runs. 1066 00:52:57,040 --> 00:52:59,240 Speaker 2: He utilized it and found the matchups that he wanted. 1067 00:52:59,360 --> 00:53:01,600 Speaker 2: He liked him. They took their shots, they got them, 1068 00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:03,839 Speaker 2: they won. That's a play right there where I mean once, 1069 00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:07,040 Speaker 2: quickly go back to the first play here, the running 1070 00:53:07,080 --> 00:53:10,080 Speaker 2: back goes low and you slide gap the protection whever 1071 00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:12,000 Speaker 2: you want to call it. Okay, the running back goes low. 1072 00:53:12,280 --> 00:53:16,640 Speaker 2: That's quick protection by definition. What would quick protection tell you? 1073 00:53:16,719 --> 00:53:19,080 Speaker 2: Common sense football people, even if you never played, you 1074 00:53:19,080 --> 00:53:22,000 Speaker 2: should understand that get the ball out. It's gotta happen. 1075 00:53:22,120 --> 00:53:25,120 Speaker 2: Like It's just there are little things like that where 1076 00:53:25,239 --> 00:53:26,960 Speaker 2: a lot of folks don't seem to be on the 1077 00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:32,040 Speaker 2: same page. And to me, that's just not understanding all 1078 00:53:32,080 --> 00:53:35,160 Speaker 2: of your offense and the hows and the whys of 1079 00:53:35,880 --> 00:53:39,040 Speaker 2: the inner workings of what you're doing. Everybody can understand 1080 00:53:39,080 --> 00:53:42,440 Speaker 2: their individual assignment, but you go next level when everyone 1081 00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:45,799 Speaker 2: understands conceptually what you're trying to do and why you're 1082 00:53:45,800 --> 00:53:48,120 Speaker 2: trying to do it. That's the part that I see 1083 00:53:48,160 --> 00:53:50,600 Speaker 2: missing a little bit from Alabama's offense. Now, did they 1084 00:53:50,600 --> 00:53:52,520 Speaker 2: get pushed around? Did they get bullied? Yes? They did. 1085 00:53:52,719 --> 00:53:54,640 Speaker 2: I mean Texas, like I said, they took that game 1086 00:53:54,680 --> 00:53:57,960 Speaker 2: from Alabama. They didn't. Alabama didn't give it away. Alabama 1087 00:53:57,960 --> 00:54:00,160 Speaker 2: didn't fumbled away. They did some things to help that. 1088 00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:02,839 Speaker 2: But Texas took that game physically and took the fight 1089 00:54:02,920 --> 00:54:05,399 Speaker 2: to them. So this is a college football playoff team 1090 00:54:05,400 --> 00:54:08,160 Speaker 2: we're talking about in Texas. Now. I think Alabama has 1091 00:54:08,160 --> 00:54:10,120 Speaker 2: some forks in the road. I'm not gonna be one 1092 00:54:10,120 --> 00:54:11,799 Speaker 2: of these guys that's walking out on that plank of 1093 00:54:12,040 --> 00:54:13,920 Speaker 2: talking about the end of Nick Saban or the end 1094 00:54:13,960 --> 00:54:16,200 Speaker 2: of the era or the album of football programs falling 1095 00:54:16,200 --> 00:54:20,480 Speaker 2: off a cliff. But as in regards to this individual season, Josh, 1096 00:54:20,520 --> 00:54:22,879 Speaker 2: they are facing multiple forks in the road right now. 1097 00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:25,080 Speaker 2: They have big decisions to make and need to be 1098 00:54:25,160 --> 00:54:28,640 Speaker 2: made fairly quickly of what did we think we were 1099 00:54:28,640 --> 00:54:31,120 Speaker 2: going to be, what are we and what can we 1100 00:54:31,239 --> 00:54:34,680 Speaker 2: realistically be for the rest of this season. There's not 1101 00:54:34,719 --> 00:54:36,480 Speaker 2: a ton of time to figure that out, and then 1102 00:54:36,520 --> 00:54:39,640 Speaker 2: after you make those decisions, who is best suited to 1103 00:54:39,680 --> 00:54:41,840 Speaker 2: give us the best chance to go be those things. 1104 00:54:42,200 --> 00:54:44,200 Speaker 2: That might mean a quarterback change, That might mean some 1105 00:54:44,280 --> 00:54:47,080 Speaker 2: changes in the offensive line, that might mean some scheme changes. 1106 00:54:47,200 --> 00:54:50,359 Speaker 2: It might change at linebacker, defensive tackle. I don't know 1107 00:54:50,520 --> 00:54:53,200 Speaker 2: where those are all gonna come from. But you've got 1108 00:54:53,200 --> 00:54:55,480 Speaker 2: to find first and foremost what your personality is. You 1109 00:54:55,480 --> 00:54:57,840 Speaker 2: mentioned the game plan. If you're gonna ride with Jaylen 1110 00:54:57,920 --> 00:55:01,120 Speaker 2: Milrow and you're not going to u utilize an elite 1111 00:55:01,200 --> 00:55:03,520 Speaker 2: set of skills that he brings to the table more often, 1112 00:55:03,840 --> 00:55:05,799 Speaker 2: I have to bring that into question and wonder why 1113 00:55:05,800 --> 00:55:08,520 Speaker 2: you're not doing that. And if the quarterback competition was 1114 00:55:08,520 --> 00:55:10,960 Speaker 2: as close as it was, it can't be that you're 1115 00:55:10,960 --> 00:55:13,640 Speaker 2: worried about putt him in harm's way. It just can't 1116 00:55:13,680 --> 00:55:15,760 Speaker 2: because you would feel like the next guy was pretty 1117 00:55:15,800 --> 00:55:17,000 Speaker 2: close to it. Even if there's a bit of a 1118 00:55:17,080 --> 00:55:19,959 Speaker 2: drop off, that's okay because he was right there with him. 1119 00:55:20,360 --> 00:55:23,040 Speaker 2: So some of that just doesn't equal up to me 1120 00:55:23,160 --> 00:55:25,960 Speaker 2: with how they called it and how it's looked. But 1121 00:55:26,040 --> 00:55:27,560 Speaker 2: I also don't think that that you know, I'm not 1122 00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:30,440 Speaker 2: printing their tombstone just yet. There's a lot of talent 1123 00:55:30,480 --> 00:55:32,160 Speaker 2: on that team. There's a lot of guys that want it. 1124 00:55:32,680 --> 00:55:35,239 Speaker 2: The talking's get to be a tad much. Just go 1125 00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:36,799 Speaker 2: do it. I don't need to hear you talk about 1126 00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:38,880 Speaker 2: it anymore. Just go do it and see what you 1127 00:55:38,880 --> 00:55:40,680 Speaker 2: can put together over the next few weeks. 1128 00:55:41,040 --> 00:55:45,120 Speaker 1: If you had to guess, would you how would you 1129 00:55:45,239 --> 00:55:47,480 Speaker 1: guess they handle quarterback against USF. 1130 00:55:49,480 --> 00:55:52,919 Speaker 2: I think you'll see more than one. And I think 1131 00:55:52,960 --> 00:55:56,560 Speaker 2: because you at least have to begin preparation for the 1132 00:55:56,640 --> 00:55:59,680 Speaker 2: ifs now down the road. Because the ifs may have 1133 00:55:59,680 --> 00:56:01,840 Speaker 2: been sad thing in the back of your mind previously, 1134 00:56:02,040 --> 00:56:04,200 Speaker 2: they have to be forward facing in your brain. I 1135 00:56:04,200 --> 00:56:06,120 Speaker 2: don't know the names of all the core Texes, but 1136 00:56:06,160 --> 00:56:07,839 Speaker 2: they need to be up in this one right here. Yeah, 1137 00:56:07,840 --> 00:56:09,719 Speaker 2: this general facility is where you need to be thinking 1138 00:56:09,760 --> 00:56:13,239 Speaker 2: about if things go haywire again, we have to go 1139 00:56:13,480 --> 00:56:15,799 Speaker 2: to a different option, and what will that option be? 1140 00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:17,960 Speaker 2: So I don't think it's going to be one series 1141 00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:20,320 Speaker 2: and then you see Buckner or two series. You see Buckner. 1142 00:56:20,640 --> 00:56:22,560 Speaker 2: This is not a good football team they're playing. So 1143 00:56:22,640 --> 00:56:25,600 Speaker 2: when they get a decent, comfortable lead two three touchdowns, 1144 00:56:25,680 --> 00:56:28,720 Speaker 2: I think you'll absolutely see somebody else, get some meaningful snaps. 1145 00:56:28,600 --> 00:56:32,719 Speaker 1: All right. So, as you would expect, anytime a high 1146 00:56:32,719 --> 00:56:37,560 Speaker 1: profile team loses, there is a national freakout and conversation 1147 00:56:37,840 --> 00:56:42,680 Speaker 1: in that order about play calling. So Bama loses, or 1148 00:56:42,760 --> 00:56:45,360 Speaker 1: it could be Ohio State that loses, clems and loses. 1149 00:56:45,560 --> 00:56:48,360 Speaker 1: Whoever loses. If Georgia were to lose to South Carolina, 1150 00:56:48,600 --> 00:56:52,880 Speaker 1: we would have a national freakout slash conversation about play calling, 1151 00:56:53,280 --> 00:56:55,560 Speaker 1: and it would start at the ground level. It would 1152 00:56:55,560 --> 00:56:56,880 Speaker 1: start with that fan base. Then it would kind of 1153 00:56:56,920 --> 00:56:58,680 Speaker 1: mushroom and it would permeate, and all of a sudden, 1154 00:56:58,719 --> 00:57:01,839 Speaker 1: the entire country is thrust into talking about something they 1155 00:57:02,080 --> 00:57:04,640 Speaker 1: really to a ninety eighth percent, I know nothing about. 1156 00:57:05,080 --> 00:57:08,520 Speaker 1: So I've always been wise enough to know where my 1157 00:57:08,640 --> 00:57:10,600 Speaker 1: laying is on the show. So we've never done a 1158 00:57:10,680 --> 00:57:15,280 Speaker 1: play calling questioning segment very rarely, while I even questioned personnel. 1159 00:57:15,840 --> 00:57:20,760 Speaker 1: But that does not stop that does not stop Carl 1160 00:57:20,920 --> 00:57:24,280 Speaker 1: from Childersburg from doing that. And a lot of times 1161 00:57:24,280 --> 00:57:26,840 Speaker 1: they'll call into shows and it's really entertaining to listen to. 1162 00:57:26,960 --> 00:57:30,200 Speaker 1: But I just wanted to do something so and I'm 1163 00:57:30,200 --> 00:57:32,120 Speaker 1: not talking about during the show, but sometimes even when 1164 00:57:32,160 --> 00:57:34,760 Speaker 1: I'm off air, you'll call me up. We'll talk about this, 1165 00:57:34,800 --> 00:57:37,320 Speaker 1: we'll laugh about this. I figure, let's just bring it 1166 00:57:37,400 --> 00:57:39,640 Speaker 1: on the show. So I was telling you a story. 1167 00:57:39,640 --> 00:57:41,959 Speaker 1: I think I told you this story about three years ago. 1168 00:57:42,840 --> 00:57:45,640 Speaker 1: I call myself gonna go to talk to an offensive 1169 00:57:45,640 --> 00:57:48,680 Speaker 1: coordinator about play calling, and I wasn't doing it to 1170 00:57:48,680 --> 00:57:50,840 Speaker 1: be a jerk. I was saying, hey, please explain this 1171 00:57:50,880 --> 00:57:53,360 Speaker 1: to me, because they had a wide receiver that I 1172 00:57:53,400 --> 00:57:55,240 Speaker 1: thought should have been a focal point of their game plan, 1173 00:57:55,600 --> 00:57:58,200 Speaker 1: and he had no catches, he had no targets, but 1174 00:57:58,240 --> 00:58:01,520 Speaker 1: he was on the field. So he says, well, tell 1175 00:58:01,520 --> 00:58:03,360 Speaker 1: me what you think. So I give him. I give 1176 00:58:03,400 --> 00:58:06,920 Speaker 1: him my whole spiel. I barely even cracked the ice 1177 00:58:07,400 --> 00:58:10,479 Speaker 1: in terms of intricacy, but I give him my whole spiel. 1178 00:58:10,520 --> 00:58:12,680 Speaker 1: And he says, well, hey, what if I told you 1179 00:58:12,880 --> 00:58:15,160 Speaker 1: he had two dislocated fingers on a hand and he 1180 00:58:15,280 --> 00:58:17,760 Speaker 1: was out of contention to catch a pass like We 1181 00:58:17,760 --> 00:58:20,240 Speaker 1: were never throwing him the ball. But we loved him 1182 00:58:20,240 --> 00:58:22,560 Speaker 1: as a decoy and we end up winning the game, 1183 00:58:22,800 --> 00:58:24,760 Speaker 1: and he could block. We trusted him to block, but 1184 00:58:24,840 --> 00:58:26,440 Speaker 1: we could not throw him the ball because he had 1185 00:58:26,480 --> 00:58:28,919 Speaker 1: two disslocated fingers. Now I can't talk to the press 1186 00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:31,520 Speaker 1: about that, and I can't go tell anyone that. And 1187 00:58:31,640 --> 00:58:33,840 Speaker 1: even after the game, he's not going to go to 1188 00:58:33,880 --> 00:58:35,600 Speaker 1: the media and say I couldn't catch a ball today. 1189 00:58:35,720 --> 00:58:38,280 Speaker 1: I had dislocated fingers. But it was the case. He said, 1190 00:58:38,320 --> 00:58:40,680 Speaker 1: now that you're armed with that information, how do you 1191 00:58:40,720 --> 00:58:43,280 Speaker 1: feel about my play calling? And I said, I'm never 1192 00:58:43,400 --> 00:58:46,040 Speaker 1: questioning play calling again. I'm just not doing it. That 1193 00:58:46,200 --> 00:58:49,800 Speaker 1: was something that was actually that was in terms of injury, 1194 00:58:50,080 --> 00:58:52,920 Speaker 1: But there's also like a million different things. Percentages play 1195 00:58:52,920 --> 00:58:55,560 Speaker 1: into this, tendencies play into this. You put yourself in 1196 00:58:55,600 --> 00:58:58,320 Speaker 1: a look that you think is a seventy three percent winner, 1197 00:58:58,600 --> 00:59:00,880 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, the twenty seven percent happens 1198 00:59:00,880 --> 00:59:03,280 Speaker 1: And at second and ten, was it a bad play 1199 00:59:03,280 --> 00:59:05,840 Speaker 1: call or did things just not go your way? All 1200 00:59:05,960 --> 00:59:08,080 Speaker 1: kinds of different things, like one hundred layers to a 1201 00:59:08,120 --> 00:59:10,520 Speaker 1: play call that starts in the spring, not the week 1202 00:59:10,560 --> 00:59:15,200 Speaker 1: of the game. So when you hear this stuff, how 1203 00:59:15,240 --> 00:59:17,000 Speaker 1: do you react to it? Because you probably hear it 1204 00:59:17,000 --> 00:59:19,920 Speaker 1: in the stands behind you all the time every Saturday. 1205 00:59:21,280 --> 00:59:23,600 Speaker 2: It's why watching games in the stands is really hard 1206 00:59:24,240 --> 00:59:29,520 Speaker 2: to be honest with you, he's terrible. And I'm oh, boy, 1207 00:59:29,880 --> 00:59:31,880 Speaker 2: I've watched one game in the stands with two games 1208 00:59:31,880 --> 00:59:34,000 Speaker 2: in the stands with my wife. Our first game we 1209 00:59:34,040 --> 00:59:37,080 Speaker 2: ever went to was the Arkansas State game, the opener 1210 00:59:37,080 --> 00:59:39,080 Speaker 2: in twenty ten, and we set to a man that 1211 00:59:39,400 --> 00:59:41,760 Speaker 2: got mad every time the quarterback ran the ball. When's 1212 00:59:41,800 --> 00:59:42,680 Speaker 2: he gonna throw it? 1213 00:59:42,960 --> 00:59:44,640 Speaker 1: Who was that quarterback? Who was that guy? 1214 00:59:44,720 --> 00:59:47,160 Speaker 2: Run the ball? He did? Okay, he did, okay run 1215 00:59:47,200 --> 00:59:48,760 Speaker 2: the ball. That year he only led the sec in 1216 00:59:48,800 --> 00:59:51,120 Speaker 2: rushing and won the Heisman Trophy. But yeah, it was okay. 1217 00:59:51,200 --> 00:59:53,000 Speaker 2: I actually went to I walked up to the tunnel 1218 00:59:53,000 --> 00:59:54,920 Speaker 2: and watched the rest of the game in the tunnel. 1219 00:59:55,240 --> 00:59:57,040 Speaker 2: She's like, this isn't a fun date, and I was like, 1220 00:59:57,560 --> 01:00:01,040 Speaker 2: no explet if, dude, there's ruining that be next to him. 1221 01:00:01,960 --> 01:00:03,920 Speaker 2: So I think the first thing you have to do, 1222 01:00:04,160 --> 01:00:06,320 Speaker 2: and there's nothing wrong with questioning it is just the 1223 01:00:06,360 --> 01:00:11,360 Speaker 2: first thing you have to do is remove individual matchups 1224 01:00:11,400 --> 01:00:15,040 Speaker 2: from your brain. So if you see and I, if 1225 01:00:15,040 --> 01:00:18,360 Speaker 2: a receiver beats the same corner nine times, sure it's 1226 01:00:18,360 --> 01:00:20,160 Speaker 2: okay to say why didn't we get him some help? 1227 01:00:20,280 --> 01:00:22,560 Speaker 2: It's fine, but you also have to go back and 1228 01:00:22,600 --> 01:00:25,360 Speaker 2: look at, well, what was the formation, what did they 1229 01:00:25,440 --> 01:00:28,920 Speaker 2: motion to shift to to get to that formation that 1230 01:00:29,000 --> 01:00:31,720 Speaker 2: potentially left them where they were, and how often had 1231 01:00:31,760 --> 01:00:34,600 Speaker 2: they done that before? That all plays into that. That's 1232 01:00:34,640 --> 01:00:37,040 Speaker 2: why Dan mull has been the master of having success 1233 01:00:37,120 --> 01:00:40,080 Speaker 2: offensively against Nick Saban because he knows how to rip 1234 01:00:40,120 --> 01:00:42,280 Speaker 2: their safeties where he wants them, and he can take 1235 01:00:42,280 --> 01:00:44,640 Speaker 2: advantage of that Sark pretty much the same way does 1236 01:00:44,640 --> 01:00:46,920 Speaker 2: some of those things. Injuries do come into play, Like 1237 01:00:46,960 --> 01:00:50,320 Speaker 2: you said, but if you call a play and the 1238 01:00:50,440 --> 01:00:54,000 Speaker 2: left tackle gets beat and are you looking down the 1239 01:00:54,000 --> 01:00:56,600 Speaker 2: field to see what was there? Do you know if 1240 01:00:56,640 --> 01:00:59,200 Speaker 2: the routes were open? And then when there are plays 1241 01:00:59,240 --> 01:01:02,160 Speaker 2: like that where let's pressure gets home or a defensive 1242 01:01:02,160 --> 01:01:04,840 Speaker 2: tackle beats a guard and he gets a sack, do 1243 01:01:04,880 --> 01:01:07,680 Speaker 2: you take the time to look at what was there 1244 01:01:07,880 --> 01:01:10,800 Speaker 2: or what was going to be there inside of that play? 1245 01:01:10,880 --> 01:01:14,680 Speaker 2: I would probably believe most people do not. Perfect example, 1246 01:01:14,720 --> 01:01:16,520 Speaker 2: with the Alabama game, which I think where a lot 1247 01:01:16,600 --> 01:01:19,320 Speaker 2: of this conversation is being generated from, I would ask 1248 01:01:19,360 --> 01:01:21,640 Speaker 2: you to go back and watch that offense, and when 1249 01:01:21,640 --> 01:01:24,200 Speaker 2: you watch it, only watch the middle of the field 1250 01:01:24,240 --> 01:01:27,560 Speaker 2: when Alabama's throwing the football and then take the amount 1251 01:01:27,560 --> 01:01:30,560 Speaker 2: of plays that failed when they did not have success 1252 01:01:30,560 --> 01:01:33,480 Speaker 2: and they wanted to throw the football, and tell me 1253 01:01:33,560 --> 01:01:35,440 Speaker 2: what you saw in the middle of the field that 1254 01:01:35,560 --> 01:01:38,560 Speaker 2: was either there when it failed or what was going 1255 01:01:38,640 --> 01:01:42,400 Speaker 2: to be there quickly before it failed, And you will 1256 01:01:42,440 --> 01:01:45,320 Speaker 2: probably see something very different just in that one game. 1257 01:01:45,640 --> 01:01:48,120 Speaker 2: That's the only game that I'm talking about. There there's 1258 01:01:48,120 --> 01:01:51,640 Speaker 2: so many internal and external factors that go into an 1259 01:01:51,680 --> 01:01:54,200 Speaker 2: actual play call. Here's the other part, Like this is 1260 01:01:54,200 --> 01:01:56,160 Speaker 2: why I hate PFF and I'm sorry I called you 1261 01:01:56,160 --> 01:01:57,360 Speaker 2: out on the show, but I had to do it. 1262 01:01:58,200 --> 01:01:59,760 Speaker 2: You don't know what in the hell of the calls are. 1263 01:02:00,160 --> 01:02:02,240 Speaker 2: You don't know what checks were made. You don't know 1264 01:02:02,360 --> 01:02:04,400 Speaker 2: somebody called the wrong front. You don't know if somebody 1265 01:02:04,440 --> 01:02:06,480 Speaker 2: called the right front. You don't know who they identified 1266 01:02:06,480 --> 01:02:08,480 Speaker 2: as the Mike climecker. You don't know if they moved 1267 01:02:08,520 --> 01:02:10,720 Speaker 2: the mic front side or backside, if they checked it off. 1268 01:02:10,760 --> 01:02:12,960 Speaker 2: Did somebody call slide protection? And half the line I 1269 01:02:13,000 --> 01:02:15,120 Speaker 2: missed it is the quarterback putting the running back on 1270 01:02:15,160 --> 01:02:17,280 Speaker 2: the wrong person. But does the running back even hear 1271 01:02:17,320 --> 01:02:19,040 Speaker 2: the call? And then to tell me that you can 1272 01:02:19,080 --> 01:02:22,960 Speaker 2: grade secondaries at halftime of a game, is absolutely obnoxious 1273 01:02:23,160 --> 01:02:25,040 Speaker 2: with the amount of calls and checks and things that 1274 01:02:25,080 --> 01:02:26,959 Speaker 2: they have to trade off over the course of a game. 1275 01:02:27,160 --> 01:02:30,600 Speaker 2: It literally cannot happen. It's not humanly possible to know 1276 01:02:31,160 --> 01:02:34,280 Speaker 2: exactly what was happening in those scenarios. So it's also 1277 01:02:34,360 --> 01:02:37,480 Speaker 2: easy to say play call was terrible. But what if 1278 01:02:37,480 --> 01:02:39,760 Speaker 2: Will Rogers came up and got into a totally different 1279 01:02:39,760 --> 01:02:42,320 Speaker 2: play and then slipped it to the other side to 1280 01:02:42,400 --> 01:02:44,440 Speaker 2: run in a different direction and brought a guy in 1281 01:02:44,480 --> 01:02:47,160 Speaker 2: motion that he shouldn't have? Is that on Coach Barbay 1282 01:02:47,280 --> 01:02:51,280 Speaker 2: at that point in time, it'll be so Now you 1283 01:02:51,280 --> 01:02:53,440 Speaker 2: could say, give you got too much freedom? All right, 1284 01:02:53,680 --> 01:02:55,720 Speaker 2: let's have that conversation then, but that's not a plu 1285 01:02:55,960 --> 01:02:57,439 Speaker 2: conversation at that point in time. 1286 01:02:58,120 --> 01:03:03,480 Speaker 1: How do you decide how the impersonation of the caller 1287 01:03:03,720 --> 01:03:06,000 Speaker 1: is going to sound because you don't always use the 1288 01:03:06,040 --> 01:03:08,560 Speaker 1: same language, you don't always use the same tone of voice. 1289 01:03:08,680 --> 01:03:10,120 Speaker 1: I mean, how many of them do you have dialed 1290 01:03:10,200 --> 01:03:10,760 Speaker 1: up in your head. 1291 01:03:12,760 --> 01:03:15,320 Speaker 2: We actually had a guy call in to Macelroy and 1292 01:03:15,400 --> 01:03:19,160 Speaker 2: Cublic like two weeks ago, and he was mad. He said, 1293 01:03:19,240 --> 01:03:24,080 Speaker 2: I I think it's disrespectful that every time y'all talk 1294 01:03:24,120 --> 01:03:26,480 Speaker 2: about it. Then that's not doing something right that you 1295 01:03:26,480 --> 01:03:31,200 Speaker 2: don't like. He sounds like a redneck And I just 1296 01:03:31,240 --> 01:03:33,520 Speaker 2: said thank you. Yeah, well, because I feel like you 1297 01:03:33,880 --> 01:03:36,960 Speaker 2: kind of just proved our point there. But cool. Yeah, 1298 01:03:37,280 --> 01:03:39,240 Speaker 2: but Greg made a good point. He's like every coach. 1299 01:03:39,400 --> 01:03:42,480 Speaker 2: Every coach has a Southern accent, because that's that's like 1300 01:03:42,560 --> 01:03:44,280 Speaker 2: what yelled at us the most of the time. Like 1301 01:03:44,320 --> 01:03:46,360 Speaker 2: my whole life, whether it was in Homewood High School 1302 01:03:46,440 --> 01:03:48,880 Speaker 2: or at Auburn, like my coach is pretty much had 1303 01:03:49,080 --> 01:03:51,400 Speaker 2: Southern accents and they were yelling at me. So when 1304 01:03:51,440 --> 01:03:54,840 Speaker 2: I picture someone yelling about football, that's what kind of 1305 01:03:54,880 --> 01:03:55,919 Speaker 2: creeps into my brain. First. 1306 01:03:56,000 --> 01:03:58,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, man, at the late Tommy Parks who coachedes down 1307 01:03:58,320 --> 01:04:00,200 Speaker 1: at Harris County High School, first thing I ever got 1308 01:04:00,280 --> 01:04:01,959 Speaker 1: yelled at me as a ninth grader. 1309 01:04:01,720 --> 01:04:04,439 Speaker 4: Was don't just stand there like a bucket of water 1310 01:04:04,560 --> 01:04:08,120 Speaker 4: paint do something I never even I never even observed 1311 01:04:08,120 --> 01:04:10,200 Speaker 4: a bucket of water the same way after that, they 1312 01:04:10,640 --> 01:04:12,800 Speaker 4: don't talk like that in North Dakota, I don't think 1313 01:04:12,840 --> 01:04:13,200 Speaker 4: they do. 1314 01:04:14,000 --> 01:04:17,240 Speaker 1: So yeah, fun times. Do you have anything for me? 1315 01:04:17,320 --> 01:04:18,840 Speaker 1: You got some questions you can fire at me. 1316 01:04:20,840 --> 01:04:23,080 Speaker 2: I have a couple things and these are going to 1317 01:04:23,120 --> 01:04:26,920 Speaker 2: be regurgitated, just because I feel like the answers are 1318 01:04:26,960 --> 01:04:28,440 Speaker 2: going to be so much different now that when I 1319 01:04:28,480 --> 01:04:30,840 Speaker 2: asked you before, I'll start with this one better chance 1320 01:04:30,920 --> 01:04:35,440 Speaker 2: Texas A and M finishes first or last in the 1321 01:04:35,480 --> 01:04:36,920 Speaker 2: SEC West, it's last. 1322 01:04:37,240 --> 01:04:39,120 Speaker 1: What did I say the first time? Did I say first? 1323 01:04:40,880 --> 01:04:41,080 Speaker 2: Yes? 1324 01:04:41,160 --> 01:04:43,680 Speaker 1: Oh I was stupid? No, forget that it's last, the 1325 01:04:43,760 --> 01:04:44,960 Speaker 1: better shot they finished last. 1326 01:04:45,040 --> 01:04:49,080 Speaker 2: Now, I think most people would have said that. Now 1327 01:04:49,240 --> 01:04:52,040 Speaker 2: I'm changing this and I'm removing the Big ten. Maybe 1328 01:04:52,040 --> 01:04:53,360 Speaker 2: I should leave the Big ten, but I think this 1329 01:04:53,400 --> 01:04:55,440 Speaker 2: is a little more entertaining right now. So this is 1330 01:04:55,520 --> 01:05:01,280 Speaker 2: not totally regurgitated. It's altered and regurgitated. Better chance to 1331 01:05:01,320 --> 01:05:05,440 Speaker 2: get two teams in the college football playoff, the SEC 1332 01:05:06,080 --> 01:05:07,040 Speaker 2: or the PAC twelve. 1333 01:05:07,520 --> 01:05:09,880 Speaker 1: I cannot believe this is about to happen. 1334 01:05:15,120 --> 01:05:17,080 Speaker 2: The fact that you even had to think about it, 1335 01:05:17,120 --> 01:05:18,720 Speaker 2: Think about where we are right now. 1336 01:05:18,880 --> 01:05:25,160 Speaker 1: I think the answers the PAC twelve. I think Vegas 1337 01:05:25,200 --> 01:05:28,320 Speaker 1: would disagree. I think oddsmakers would disagree with that obviously. 1338 01:05:28,720 --> 01:05:31,960 Speaker 1: And you're fighting the perception like every benefit of the 1339 01:05:32,000 --> 01:05:33,840 Speaker 1: doubt is going to be given to the SEC. None 1340 01:05:33,880 --> 01:05:35,320 Speaker 1: of it's going to be given to the PAC twelve, 1341 01:05:35,560 --> 01:05:39,040 Speaker 1: and we really haven't gotten into the carnage of PAC 1342 01:05:39,080 --> 01:05:41,800 Speaker 1: twelve play yet, so maybe I'll flip flop on that 1343 01:05:41,840 --> 01:05:46,480 Speaker 1: five more times. But as of this moment, Southern cal 1344 01:05:46,640 --> 01:05:50,400 Speaker 1: quietly looks a lot better defensively. You know my thoughts 1345 01:05:50,400 --> 01:05:53,520 Speaker 1: on Oregon. If I'm wrong about Oregon, Washington will fill 1346 01:05:53,560 --> 01:05:55,920 Speaker 1: the void. If they don't, Oregon State will fill the void. 1347 01:05:56,960 --> 01:06:00,000 Speaker 1: Utah's just there as they are every year. Haven't lost 1348 01:06:00,160 --> 01:06:02,600 Speaker 1: the game. Hey guys, we're just here. Cam Rising Jesse, 1349 01:06:02,800 --> 01:06:04,680 Speaker 1: he's right in the control room right now. He looks 1350 01:06:04,680 --> 01:06:07,600 Speaker 1: better and better every day. I think it's the PAC twelve. 1351 01:06:07,640 --> 01:06:08,760 Speaker 1: Do you disagree with me on this? 1352 01:06:11,080 --> 01:06:13,200 Speaker 2: I don't think so well. The way Washington State's got 1353 01:06:13,240 --> 01:06:16,560 Speaker 2: a pretty good quarterback. They're throwing it around. You know, 1354 01:06:16,880 --> 01:06:18,680 Speaker 2: Arizona's gonna be a problem for a lot of teams. 1355 01:06:18,680 --> 01:06:20,280 Speaker 2: They're not going to the playoff, but they're I think 1356 01:06:20,320 --> 01:06:22,320 Speaker 2: they're gonna help some resumes based on what they do 1357 01:06:22,400 --> 01:06:25,240 Speaker 2: through the course of the year. And Colorado's undefeated, yeah, 1358 01:06:25,280 --> 01:06:27,600 Speaker 2: and has a first round NFL quarterback who's wowing a 1359 01:06:27,600 --> 01:06:29,680 Speaker 2: lot of people. So I just think it was somebody 1360 01:06:29,760 --> 01:06:32,680 Speaker 2: asked me about USC earlier. By the way, if you 1361 01:06:32,680 --> 01:06:34,360 Speaker 2: saw that, if you really go take a close look 1362 01:06:34,360 --> 01:06:36,959 Speaker 2: at that defense they played this weekend. Holy mother God, 1363 01:06:37,040 --> 01:06:39,520 Speaker 2: that that was. That was not interesting to look at 1364 01:06:39,640 --> 01:06:42,960 Speaker 2: or talk about. That's exactly what it what it should 1365 01:06:43,040 --> 01:06:46,920 Speaker 2: should get you right there. But I don't like the 1366 01:06:46,920 --> 01:06:49,480 Speaker 2: way they're moving Caleb Williams around. I don't like this 1367 01:06:49,520 --> 01:06:52,400 Speaker 2: sort of let's run into the alley, maybe pop pass, 1368 01:06:52,520 --> 01:06:54,600 Speaker 2: maybe keep like. I don't like how they're putting him 1369 01:06:54,600 --> 01:06:56,840 Speaker 2: in harm's way. And I said this, and I had 1370 01:06:56,880 --> 01:06:59,880 Speaker 2: to catch myself earlier today I said, I don't know 1371 01:07:00,160 --> 01:07:03,880 Speaker 2: if they're built. Wow, I'm gonna say it. For what 1372 01:07:03,960 --> 01:07:06,960 Speaker 2: the PAC twelve is going to offer physically this year, Yes, 1373 01:07:08,160 --> 01:07:08,760 Speaker 2: we've made it. 1374 01:07:08,840 --> 01:07:11,840 Speaker 1: Yes, let's let's blow this whole thing up now that 1375 01:07:11,880 --> 01:07:15,560 Speaker 1: it's a quality conference. That's how I will do it. Hey, 1376 01:07:15,680 --> 01:07:18,480 Speaker 1: I got a question for you, one, go for it, 1377 01:07:18,640 --> 01:07:19,760 Speaker 1: shoot me shoot me first? 1378 01:07:21,600 --> 01:07:26,960 Speaker 2: Better album Southern Playlistic, Cadillac Music, Surfacing or Octen Baby. 1379 01:07:28,680 --> 01:07:30,640 Speaker 1: Off the top of my head, I don't know who 1380 01:07:30,680 --> 01:07:33,440 Speaker 1: any of those are from. 1381 01:07:33,560 --> 01:07:36,960 Speaker 2: Oh wow, I didn't expect you to go there. Southern Playlistic, 1382 01:07:37,040 --> 01:07:39,760 Speaker 2: Cadac Music is outcast by far their best album for 1383 01:07:39,760 --> 01:07:41,680 Speaker 2: the youngsters that don't know about Tennessee and Florida. You 1384 01:07:41,720 --> 01:07:44,360 Speaker 2: should go back and listen to that one, because, hey, y'all, missus, 1385 01:07:44,400 --> 01:07:47,640 Speaker 2: Jackson ain't their best work. Surfacing is Sarah McGlaughlin, who 1386 01:07:47,640 --> 01:07:49,960 Speaker 2: I've heard you reference multiple times. But I didn't buy 1387 01:07:49,960 --> 01:07:50,760 Speaker 2: the album album. 1388 01:07:50,840 --> 01:07:52,560 Speaker 1: No, I would never buy the album. I just buy 1389 01:07:52,560 --> 01:07:58,360 Speaker 1: the singles. I don't need to lay anything other than 1390 01:07:58,440 --> 01:07:59,680 Speaker 1: Angel down on this show. 1391 01:08:01,600 --> 01:08:03,840 Speaker 2: Octon Baby, is you too? Greg Sank you would be 1392 01:08:03,840 --> 01:08:05,560 Speaker 2: disappointed that you didn't know that you might not get 1393 01:08:05,560 --> 01:08:07,120 Speaker 2: credential to your next Alabama game. 1394 01:08:07,880 --> 01:08:12,640 Speaker 1: I I don't care for any Look, I will lose 1395 01:08:12,680 --> 01:08:15,760 Speaker 1: all street credibility if I say McLaughlin, but I probably 1396 01:08:15,800 --> 01:08:16,840 Speaker 1: know more songs by her. 1397 01:08:19,320 --> 01:08:21,439 Speaker 2: It's it's cool. You can just vote to opt out 1398 01:08:21,439 --> 01:08:24,120 Speaker 2: of that one. We've been doing it for years, all right. Look, please, 1399 01:08:24,200 --> 01:08:25,559 Speaker 2: I don't have time to talk about this with you 1400 01:08:25,640 --> 01:08:29,320 Speaker 2: right now. Please behave yourself at all miss this weekend. Okay, 1401 01:08:29,680 --> 01:08:32,439 Speaker 2: you see my index finger pointed at you. Please be 1402 01:08:32,479 --> 01:08:39,160 Speaker 2: good over there. I will. I will do my best 1403 01:08:39,280 --> 01:08:39,920 Speaker 2: to stay safe. 1404 01:08:40,040 --> 01:08:42,360 Speaker 1: You always do. Col Cuban, thank you, sir, and thank 1405 01:08:42,439 --> 01:08:45,320 Speaker 1: you all to watching us for watching us. I'm Josh 1406 01:08:45,320 --> 01:08:48,720 Speaker 1: Paip for director Colin for producer Jesse. Take care, have 1407 01:08:48,840 --> 01:08:50,960 Speaker 1: a great weekend, enjoy the games. We'll be back here 1408 01:08:51,000 --> 01:09:03,160 Speaker 1: Sunday night until the end. Goublets