WEBVTT - MLB: Leading Off September 1st, 2022 (Ep. 587) 0:00:15.680 --> 0:00:18.600 Leading off starts right now. Welcome on everybody. I am 0:00:18.760 --> 0:00:20.960 Chris Welsh. Thank you for hanging out with us over 0:00:21.000 --> 0:00:23.800 on Fantasy pros. Joining me today is the one the 0:00:23.800 --> 0:00:26.639 only Casey Bubba in the house. Bubba, what's up? 0:00:26.680 --> 0:00:28.800 Brother Tom much my friend? Thanks for having me back 0:00:28.800 --> 0:00:31.440 once again. Gonna be a fun Thursday of baseball talk. 0:00:31.640 --> 0:00:34.000 Is this is a day for you. It feels like 0:00:34.080 --> 0:00:35.839 a lot of good stuff in your neck of the woods. 0:00:35.840 --> 0:00:37.920 So some fun stuff to talk about. 0:00:38.040 --> 0:00:41.440 Not just Diamondbacks, but lots of prospect lots of prospect 0:00:41.479 --> 0:00:44.960 talk out there. Trevor Rodgers wonky can feel good. Trevor 0:00:45.040 --> 0:00:48.840 Rodgers did actually pitch like a pitcher again, going six, 0:00:48.880 --> 0:00:52.320 striking out five, giving up only one earned run. So 0:00:52.440 --> 0:00:54.560 there you go. There's some happiness and there's lots of 0:00:54.560 --> 0:00:57.680 fun prospect talk that we can get to, like Gunner 0:00:57.760 --> 0:01:01.000 Henderson doing a little bit of a thing like, oh, 0:01:01.040 --> 0:01:03.520 I don't know, a home run with you see that 0:01:04.040 --> 0:01:04.760 hair come out. 0:01:04.800 --> 0:01:06.480 I was about to say, you want to make a 0:01:06.480 --> 0:01:07.039 man jealous. 0:01:07.080 --> 0:01:08.680 I can't tell if it's the home run because he's 0:01:08.680 --> 0:01:11.080 a professional ball player or just the locks the flow. 0:01:11.360 --> 0:01:14.639 It was like Fabio wished he could be a baseball player. 0:01:15.120 --> 0:01:17.240 It was like like someone's got to just do like 0:01:17.280 --> 0:01:19.640 a slow mo video, because is it the helmet came out. 0:01:19.720 --> 0:01:24.880 It was like the blonde hair just flows out. The 0:01:24.920 --> 0:01:27.039 helmet fell off as he crushed a homer in his 0:01:27.040 --> 0:01:30.840 first one goes around the bases. I mean, is the 0:01:30.880 --> 0:01:34.160 bald choice or is it by choice? Or is it 0:01:34.200 --> 0:01:38.000 by necessity? Bubba? Because how deep is the U is 0:01:38.080 --> 0:01:40.360 the jealousy for Gunner Henderson? 0:01:40.560 --> 0:01:42.559 So we're going here this early in the morning. Huh Okay, 0:01:42.600 --> 0:01:45.520 I got you. No, it's it's it's both. No, it's 0:01:45.520 --> 0:01:48.040 a it's a necessity because otherwise I looked like hul 0:01:48.080 --> 0:01:49.360 Cogan minus the school at part. 0:01:49.840 --> 0:01:52.560 Oh. Brother, all right, brother, that's very good. I like 0:01:52.600 --> 0:01:55.600 that Gunnar did go to for four, living up to 0:01:55.680 --> 0:01:57.920 kind of the big prospect prowess. You know, him and 0:01:58.280 --> 0:02:01.040 Corby Carrol, the top two guys. They've been doing it 0:02:01.080 --> 0:02:03.040 and they've been I mean, obviously gun has only done 0:02:03.080 --> 0:02:05.280 it one game. Cortven has done it over a couple 0:02:05.320 --> 0:02:08.680 of games. And some good early performance you're getting from 0:02:08.720 --> 0:02:12.320 some of the young guys. So the question is usually yes, 0:02:12.800 --> 0:02:16.280 you know, should I cut? So yes, probably it's gonna 0:02:16.280 --> 0:02:18.679 be pretty easy. And Gunnan was brought up one day 0:02:18.720 --> 0:02:22.240 before the cutoff, so he is postseason eligible. So if 0:02:22.240 --> 0:02:25.120 the Orioles were to make it, he can further his 0:02:25.280 --> 0:02:28.919 mystique and the allure of the legend. If you will 0:02:28.919 --> 0:02:31.200 have Gunner Henderson, he can do that thing. So get 0:02:31.280 --> 0:02:33.519 him out. There's probably gonna play multiple positions. Probably not 0:02:33.560 --> 0:02:37.359 gonna help for next year as far as position eligibility. 0:02:37.680 --> 0:02:39.720 You know, there's a cool video that was out there 0:02:40.400 --> 0:02:42.160 and when he got the call up where the manager 0:02:42.240 --> 0:02:44.600 in tripa A was kind of like, all right, you know, hey, 0:02:44.680 --> 0:02:46.840 we were gonna have you play second these two days, 0:02:46.840 --> 0:02:49.040 we're gonna have you play first, and now you're not 0:02:49.080 --> 0:02:50.560 because you're going up to the majors. But it also 0:02:50.639 --> 0:02:53.000 proves how much they've been moving him around and where 0:02:53.040 --> 0:02:55.120 he can move around in the lineup. You're probably not 0:02:55.120 --> 0:02:57.519 gonna get a ton of that flexibility this year where 0:02:57.520 --> 0:03:00.000 he's gonna become eligible unless you play in Yahoo, which 0:03:00.120 --> 0:03:02.399 you know by next week you might have twelve different positions. 0:03:02.560 --> 0:03:05.120 But next year, you know, maybe he could be a 0:03:05.240 --> 0:03:08.720 little Jose Miranda with two or three other position eligibilities 0:03:08.720 --> 0:03:09.640 bub which. 0:03:09.480 --> 0:03:11.400 Is pretty darn sweet. I'd be a big fan of that. 0:03:11.440 --> 0:03:13.760 He's the showcase and the goods out the gate has 0:03:13.800 --> 0:03:15.760 been amazing this year, so I'm. 0:03:15.600 --> 0:03:18.519 Always a sucker for positional eligibility. Some people think it's overrated. 0:03:18.520 --> 0:03:21.280 I think it's tremendous and I'll be all over that 0:03:21.880 --> 0:03:22.960 before we go to the next topic. 0:03:22.960 --> 0:03:23.120 Though. 0:03:23.120 --> 0:03:25.320 You mentioned Corbyn Carroll and I have to ask they 0:03:25.320 --> 0:03:26.880 sat him versus lefty yesterday. 0:03:27.040 --> 0:03:27.960 Is this going to be a thing. 0:03:28.919 --> 0:03:30.200 I don't know if it's gonna be a big thing. 0:03:30.600 --> 0:03:33.160 The game before, I believe was a lefty as well, 0:03:33.200 --> 0:03:35.720 and they didn't sit him. If I'm remembering correctly, one 0:03:35.720 --> 0:03:38.720 of the first two games was against a lefty. They'll 0:03:38.720 --> 0:03:41.920 probably sit him a little bit because they've got a 0:03:41.960 --> 0:03:44.040 glut of outfield guys. I mean, I think that should 0:03:44.080 --> 0:03:47.440 be kind of expected. McCarthy has been on a freaking tear, 0:03:48.040 --> 0:03:50.760 alec Is good Stone, Garrett has even looked pretty solid. 0:03:51.120 --> 0:03:53.280 I don't think he's gonna sit every single time. I 0:03:53.280 --> 0:03:55.160 don't think it's a platoon or anything like that. I 0:03:55.200 --> 0:03:57.520 just don't think they're going to overwhelm him, and you 0:03:57.520 --> 0:04:00.480 know they're going to manage the bat. Still not gonna 0:04:00.480 --> 0:04:01.920 make him play. I don't think they want to push 0:04:01.960 --> 0:04:04.119 it up to like one twenty or anything like that. 0:04:04.400 --> 0:04:06.000 You know, right up to the edge. You never know 0:04:06.040 --> 0:04:09.040 what's going to happen in the game. So I don't 0:04:09.040 --> 0:04:10.200 think so. But I know there was a lot of 0:04:10.240 --> 0:04:13.200 online chatter yesterday about like, you know, Corbyn sitting and 0:04:13.480 --> 0:04:17.040 watch these rookies sitting against you know, the opposite pitcher 0:04:17.240 --> 0:04:19.400 or anything like that. I just don't think it'll be crazy. 0:04:19.440 --> 0:04:22.320 But with that, would would that change your approach in 0:04:22.400 --> 0:04:24.120 valuing him the rest of this year if you had 0:04:24.160 --> 0:04:24.719 picked him. 0:04:24.600 --> 0:04:27.320 Up, if you're only covers righties, I'm still gonna want 0:04:27.360 --> 0:04:28.800 him quite a bit. The only time it'll stink is 0:04:28.839 --> 0:04:30.520 probably when he plays the Dodgers, because it seems like 0:04:30.520 --> 0:04:33.160 all they have her lefties. But pretty much any other 0:04:33.200 --> 0:04:35.359 series you're gonna be just fine. So it's not going 0:04:35.440 --> 0:04:37.599 to change my thoughts there. You're getting power, you're getting speed, 0:04:37.640 --> 0:04:39.360 even like four or five games that Carol could give 0:04:39.360 --> 0:04:41.599 you a couple bags each week, and who knows what 0:04:41.600 --> 0:04:42.720 other counting stats with it. 0:04:43.120 --> 0:04:45.640 I'll watch. You know, One thing I would wonder is 0:04:45.680 --> 0:04:48.360 if also a part of it is not just about 0:04:48.360 --> 0:04:51.520 the left because Wonky with some snide in her in 0:04:51.560 --> 0:04:54.599 the voice, talks about how how it was against Falter 0:04:54.680 --> 0:04:56.800 and you can't just sit anybody. You can't play anybody 0:04:56.839 --> 0:05:00.760 against Falter. Snark aside in that, I would point out 0:05:00.839 --> 0:05:03.239 that this is a guy that has played the entirety 0:05:03.279 --> 0:05:06.240 of the year. You're into September of time, that these 0:05:06.279 --> 0:05:09.839 guys usually aren't playing these team like a team like 0:05:09.839 --> 0:05:12.120 the Diamondbacks. They're kind of seeing everybody. They're gonna play 0:05:12.160 --> 0:05:13.760 them most days. They might just be giving him a 0:05:13.800 --> 0:05:16.359 random day. It might not necessarily be about the matchup, 0:05:16.520 --> 0:05:18.440 could be wrong, you know, it could be another lefty 0:05:18.480 --> 0:05:20.280 they sit him towards. But you know, I don't think 0:05:20.320 --> 0:05:23.480 they want him to go every single game and press him. 0:05:23.480 --> 0:05:25.200 I think they just want to ease it kind of in. 0:05:25.279 --> 0:05:27.200 And you know, they got to get at bats for McCarthy. 0:05:27.240 --> 0:05:28.960 I think they want to see what they have in everybody. 0:05:29.000 --> 0:05:32.279 We know that Carol and Thomas are the outfield next year. 0:05:32.480 --> 0:05:34.960 They've got to make a decision on how they're going 0:05:35.040 --> 0:05:37.200 to approach a guy like varshow continuing him in the 0:05:37.200 --> 0:05:40.560 outfield or catching or dhing next season, and what you 0:05:40.560 --> 0:05:42.400 have with McCarthy and everything like that. So I'm not 0:05:42.400 --> 0:05:45.080 reading too much into it, but we'll know, you know, 0:05:45.400 --> 0:05:47.520 on the next lefty, the next lefty that the Diamondbacks 0:05:47.560 --> 0:05:52.400 are facing. You know, the new rookies performing at these 0:05:52.480 --> 0:05:56.600 high levels is super exciting. The old rookies not performing 0:05:56.640 --> 0:06:00.600 whatsoever is still a little bit depressing because this was 0:06:00.640 --> 0:06:04.720 a reminder of it. Spencer Torklsen was recalled on September first. 0:06:04.920 --> 0:06:07.760 Rosters are expanding today, so we're up to I believe 0:06:07.760 --> 0:06:10.920 it's twenty eight, twenty eight, Yeah, that's the number. And 0:06:11.000 --> 0:06:14.360 Spencer Toorkulsen coming up from Triple A, where he's been 0:06:14.440 --> 0:06:16.000 for what has it been like two months? 0:06:16.120 --> 0:06:17.839 It's been a long time. I almost forgot what he 0:06:17.880 --> 0:06:18.240 looked like. 0:06:18.720 --> 0:06:22.360 Yeah, he almost forget all about him from ASU Spencer Torklsen. 0:06:22.480 --> 0:06:25.679 So far this season in Triple A, let's take a look. 0:06:25.960 --> 0:06:31.360 Has Biboo beeboo beebe two twenty nine with five homers, 0:06:31.400 --> 0:06:35.240 a stolen base, A three forty eight OBP has thirty 0:06:35.320 --> 0:06:37.400 hits in one hundred and thirty one at bats. I 0:06:37.760 --> 0:06:41.520 just don't know what happened. I don't know what happened, Bubba. 0:06:41.560 --> 0:06:44.720 He completely fell off I'm not looking to pick him 0:06:44.800 --> 0:06:47.760 up right now whatsoever. I think in Dynasty he's interesting 0:06:47.800 --> 0:06:50.440 as like a super super low buy. I think people 0:06:50.440 --> 0:06:53.640 are really upset about it and out. I don't know 0:06:53.640 --> 0:06:56.640 if I would be totally, but I have zero interest 0:06:56.800 --> 0:06:58.680 right now for this season. I'm not picking him up. 0:06:58.920 --> 0:07:00.720 Yeah, on hundred percent with you, I'm not going near him. 0:07:00.760 --> 0:07:02.800 Like it was sad because we're all excited at the 0:07:02.800 --> 0:07:04.200 beginning of the year that he's all he's starting with 0:07:04.240 --> 0:07:06.480 the team. Everyone's all into it. And when I heard 0:07:06.520 --> 0:07:08.920 the news yesterday that he's coming up, I'm like, yeah, good, 0:07:08.960 --> 0:07:11.400 hopefully it does well good for him, like do something 0:07:11.640 --> 0:07:14.880 like that meme where you poke the thing do something. 0:07:14.920 --> 0:07:17.040 But I'm yeah, I'm not going crazy one. 0:07:17.360 --> 0:07:20.600 Nope, I would go and pick up Miguel Vargas. Migel 0:07:20.640 --> 0:07:23.720 Vargas the Dodgers recalled, I hope they don't just have 0:07:23.840 --> 0:07:24.840 him sitting. 0:07:25.080 --> 0:07:27.400 Excuse me, I'm concerned about that. 0:07:27.960 --> 0:07:30.440 Yeah, that, and it's a possibility that he could just 0:07:30.480 --> 0:07:32.480 be sitting majority of the time. I mean, the playoffs 0:07:32.880 --> 0:07:35.680 in the you know, in the minor leagues are kind 0:07:35.720 --> 0:07:37.080 of coming to an in or at the end of 0:07:37.120 --> 0:07:39.440 the season at least it is, and they bring him up, 0:07:39.520 --> 0:07:42.200 I expect them to give him a little bit of run. 0:07:42.240 --> 0:07:44.880 And this is a prospect. I'm heavily and like, it's 0:07:44.920 --> 0:07:47.320 not quite Gunner interesson Corban Carroll, but it's like one 0:07:47.440 --> 0:07:49.960 be I like Miguel Vargas that much. He's that much 0:07:50.000 --> 0:07:52.120 of a bat on as far as how he gets 0:07:52.160 --> 0:07:55.160 on base, doesn't strike out a ton, makes tons of contact. 0:07:55.160 --> 0:07:57.680 He had a successful first run that then he just 0:07:57.760 --> 0:08:01.160 got pushed down to triple A. And I'm really really 0:08:01.200 --> 0:08:03.120 hoping I would be interested in a little bit of 0:08:03.160 --> 0:08:06.160 a pickup that he's going to get some time playing. 0:08:06.920 --> 0:08:07.120 Yeah. 0:08:07.200 --> 0:08:09.400 No, I hope he plays every day. Maybe it could 0:08:09.440 --> 0:08:11.600 be they just start resting guys because the've already pretty 0:08:11.680 --> 0:08:13.720 much locked up the West and he just has a 0:08:13.800 --> 0:08:17.160 utility type role potentially and moves around the diamond. You know, 0:08:17.320 --> 0:08:19.240 justin Turner could always use extra time off, he could 0:08:19.440 --> 0:08:21.720 age the bat's awesome. So yeah, if he plays a lot, 0:08:21.880 --> 0:08:23.960 it's a great move. I'm just concerned about playing time. 0:08:24.320 --> 0:08:27.480 Remember that thing where Dave Roberts was like, Hey, we're 0:08:27.480 --> 0:08:29.480 gonna just sit Cody Bellinger a whole bunch and get 0:08:29.520 --> 0:08:31.840 him some time. That doesn't like happened, Like what should 0:08:31.840 --> 0:08:33.720 though to that? This would we should time for that. 0:08:33.720 --> 0:08:36.040 They're like, let him sit for a bit, get right 0:08:36.120 --> 0:08:38.880 or whatever. Get Miguel varguson. He's not going to be 0:08:38.880 --> 0:08:41.520 eligible I guess for the postseason because he's coming up today. 0:08:41.720 --> 0:08:43.680 Didn't he come up before though? Does that count or no? 0:08:43.840 --> 0:08:45.400 You know, I don't know. Did he get the official 0:08:45.440 --> 0:08:46.800 call up? Was it yesterday? No? 0:08:46.880 --> 0:08:48.360 I mean didn't he come up like a couple of 0:08:48.360 --> 0:08:48.880 weeks back. 0:08:49.760 --> 0:08:52.880 Ooh, that's a good question. Yeah, he did already make. 0:08:52.760 --> 0:08:54.440 A he played like a week or so he forgot 0:08:55.080 --> 0:08:56.719 I guess he would be eligible. Yeah, I don't know 0:08:56.720 --> 0:08:58.600 how that works either. Does he have to be does 0:08:58.640 --> 0:09:00.320 he have to be actively on the roster for the 0:09:00.320 --> 0:09:01.800 first or just be called up before. 0:09:01.559 --> 0:09:03.720 The first that. It's a really good point. I'm not on. 0:09:03.800 --> 0:09:06.920 I'm here for because he technically did have major league 0:09:07.000 --> 0:09:09.200 time earlier in the year and got called back up. 0:09:09.840 --> 0:09:12.480 But I don't. I kind of feel like it's a 0:09:13.360 --> 0:09:14.880 gutt is gonna say you had to be on the 0:09:14.920 --> 0:09:19.559 active roster before September thirty first to be eligible for 0:09:19.600 --> 0:09:20.160 the playoffs. 0:09:20.160 --> 0:09:21.840 But that's fair Hey, chat, you got something to do 0:09:21.880 --> 0:09:22.959 for twenty minutes? Figure it out? 0:09:23.040 --> 0:09:26.080 Yeah, yes, yeah, someone let us know another rookie, Michael 0:09:26.160 --> 0:09:30.480 Tolia silent G. I talked about this in the actually 0:09:30.520 --> 0:09:33.880 in the AFL because it was one of those things 0:09:33.880 --> 0:09:37.520 where everyone was like Choglia, Choglia, but the announcers were 0:09:37.520 --> 0:09:39.360 saying Tolia, and you officially hurd it. So if you 0:09:39.440 --> 0:09:43.400 are thinking of him, Mike Tolia with the Colorado Rockies 0:09:43.440 --> 0:09:45.360 went two for four in his debut with a two 0:09:45.440 --> 0:09:48.360 run home run first in the BIGS. This is on 0:09:48.400 --> 0:09:50.320 Wednesday as a loss, and I believe it was in 0:09:50.320 --> 0:09:52.400 the ninth inning he hit that home run, and Tolia 0:09:52.679 --> 0:09:54.640 got a lot more of swing and miss in his game. 0:09:55.040 --> 0:09:59.280 He's a just a big, old burly dude who crushes balls. 0:09:59.280 --> 0:10:01.440 He can hit them crazy far, but I don't think 0:10:01.480 --> 0:10:03.920 he's gonna hit for high average, but he is going 0:10:03.960 --> 0:10:06.280 to get that little extra push being in Colorado. He 0:10:06.280 --> 0:10:08.520 actual reminds me of like a CJ. Cron type, So 0:10:08.600 --> 0:10:11.360 he's not really a guy I'm interested in. If I 0:10:11.360 --> 0:10:12.880 were like a points leek or something and I was 0:10:12.960 --> 0:10:15.040 just looking for big boppers, maybe I would try to 0:10:15.040 --> 0:10:17.200 pick him up right now long term, maybe we would 0:10:17.240 --> 0:10:19.560 take a look at him. But I'm not the biggest, 0:10:19.600 --> 0:10:21.000 totally a guy. But he did hit a homer and 0:10:21.000 --> 0:10:22.080 he's looked pretty good so far. 0:10:22.800 --> 0:10:24.520 Yeah, No, he does look good. You mentioned the power 0:10:24.559 --> 0:10:27.319 that he brings. And as bad as it is, Kron 0:10:27.400 --> 0:10:30.240 has been horrific on the road this year, so it 0:10:30.280 --> 0:10:32.719 could be a potential like a platoon situation with the 0:10:32.800 --> 0:10:35.400 lefty righties for the duration of the season, So some 0:10:35.440 --> 0:10:36.880 would think about going forward. 0:10:37.080 --> 0:10:39.920 One I do like stables goggles, just put this out. 0:10:39.920 --> 0:10:42.640 The guy I talked about at the trade deadline, Spencer Steer. 0:10:42.840 --> 0:10:45.199 I'm a Spencer Steer guy, and I thought he was 0:10:45.240 --> 0:10:47.280 going to get a lot of early run. He did not. 0:10:47.640 --> 0:10:49.560 They send him to the miners and he got a 0:10:49.600 --> 0:10:51.280 call up today. That would be a guy we'd take 0:10:51.280 --> 0:10:53.960 a look at. If I'm looking for some shortstop, you know, 0:10:53.960 --> 0:10:57.360 they would put they're putting farm over there. The round 0:10:57.559 --> 0:11:00.160 twelve of Jose Barrero is just not working out out 0:11:00.360 --> 0:11:03.600 the experiment of Jose Barrero. So I'm hopeful that we're 0:11:03.640 --> 0:11:05.679 going to get to see some run from Spencer Steer. 0:11:05.880 --> 0:11:09.000 And you know, benjer League, if you if you're like 0:11:09.040 --> 0:11:10.760 a deeper league, or you got a big bench, or 0:11:10.800 --> 0:11:14.000 you're dealing with, like you know, injured players, like I'm 0:11:14.040 --> 0:11:15.960 not going to run and he's not a must pick up, 0:11:15.960 --> 0:11:18.960 but I'd be watching Spencer Steer because I think there's 0:11:19.000 --> 0:11:21.040 some solid power in there, there's good contact. I think 0:11:21.080 --> 0:11:23.280 he put up some offensive stats. I would be doing. 0:11:23.320 --> 0:11:25.800 And then another rookie, Ken Walda Chuck going to make 0:11:26.160 --> 0:11:29.439 his Oakland debut versus the Nationals. So tons of prospects 0:11:29.480 --> 0:11:32.480 around the world, not you wouldn't expect them to. It's September, 0:11:32.480 --> 0:11:34.480 feet this is kind of the time, whether it was 0:11:34.480 --> 0:11:36.560 a playoff move or not. But rosters have expanded and 0:11:36.600 --> 0:11:39.319 you're going to be seeing some of these dudes. Bubs, 0:11:39.360 --> 0:11:41.120 You're going to be seeing some of these dudes. For sure. 0:11:41.280 --> 0:11:42.880 It's good to see. It's good to see. Hopefully we 0:11:42.880 --> 0:11:45.120 see even more. It's there's so much good talent. And 0:11:45.440 --> 0:11:47.199 someone even said, I think it was Mike Mayer actually 0:11:47.200 --> 0:11:50.320 said the other day that the all these young players, 0:11:50.320 --> 0:11:52.160 it's a tip of the cap to the new CBA. 0:11:52.280 --> 0:11:53.360 So we're getting some fun there. 0:11:53.800 --> 0:11:56.360 Yeah, I suppose. I mean there's still a little bit 0:11:56.400 --> 0:11:59.440 of still a little bit of manipulation. But to the 0:11:59.480 --> 0:12:02.280 point not seeing it at the front and giving an 0:12:02.320 --> 0:12:07.080 incentive to next year is pushing teams to want at 0:12:07.160 --> 0:12:08.880 least get a look. See that's kind of the weird 0:12:08.920 --> 0:12:11.400 inverse of this, Like they won't bring them up in 0:12:11.440 --> 0:12:14.040 August so they can make sure they control the at 0:12:14.040 --> 0:12:16.000 bats so they're good for next year. But if they're 0:12:16.040 --> 0:12:17.959 going to break camp, I think they want to get 0:12:17.960 --> 0:12:19.360 them a little bit of run. And that's why you're 0:12:19.400 --> 0:12:22.240 seeing Carol and Henderson getting a little bit of major 0:12:22.320 --> 0:12:25.520 league run so they can manipulate it into next year. 0:12:26.040 --> 0:12:28.800 A big scare that we were dealing with was Shane McClanahan. 0:12:29.200 --> 0:12:32.360 Shane McClanahan was placed on the fifteen day IL and 0:12:32.400 --> 0:12:34.760 that was about his noted here by Wonky about ten 0:12:34.840 --> 0:12:38.240 seconds after we ended leading off yesterday, he was placed 0:12:38.240 --> 0:12:40.920 on the IL. We were a little bit optimistic from 0:12:40.920 --> 0:12:44.000 the words and from his words. The optimism here is 0:12:44.040 --> 0:12:48.000 that he is not like Tommy John. The pessimism is 0:12:48.040 --> 0:12:50.520 he's on the IL and I don't know if we 0:12:50.600 --> 0:12:53.200 really have any indication if this will be extended beyond 0:12:53.240 --> 0:12:55.880 the fifteen day IL, and if it is, this is 0:12:55.920 --> 0:12:58.800 going to this is going to destroy fantasy owners because 0:12:58.840 --> 0:13:01.559 McClanahan had a chance to be like a league winner this. 0:13:01.600 --> 0:13:03.760 Year and then reports came out that they got a 0:13:03.800 --> 0:13:06.120 quarter zone shot in his shoulder. So that's usually at 0:13:06.200 --> 0:13:09.040 least a week of pretty much doing nothing. So yeah, 0:13:09.080 --> 0:13:10.240 we'll have to see how that one heals up. 0:13:10.240 --> 0:13:11.480 It's not good. It doesn't sound good to me. 0:13:11.720 --> 0:13:14.440 No, it doesn't sound good. I'm not optimistic about the 0:13:14.480 --> 0:13:17.400 rest of this year, maybe in the playoffs. So your 0:13:17.400 --> 0:13:22.040 fantasy playoffs, I think you are a little screwed. Unfortunately, 0:13:22.640 --> 0:13:24.800 some other injury notes. Luis Robert remains out of the 0:13:24.800 --> 0:13:29.439 lineup on Thursday. No bueno. This is kind of like apropos, repeat, 0:13:29.880 --> 0:13:33.480 rinse and repeat. Salvador Press Salviy was scratched from Wednesday's 0:13:33.480 --> 0:13:36.800 lineup and is tentatively expected back today, so let's watch 0:13:36.800 --> 0:13:39.280 for that. John Birdie was removed from Wednesday's game due 0:13:39.280 --> 0:13:42.199 to right hip soreness. All those stolen bases on the bench, 0:13:42.440 --> 0:13:45.560 but Go Rojas was scratched from yesterday's lineup due to 0:13:45.679 --> 0:13:48.480 right risk discomfort, and Anthony Rizzo was held out of 0:13:48.480 --> 0:13:51.360 the lineup due to some back issues. So this this 0:13:51.440 --> 0:13:54.520 is definitely like the nagging injury time of the year 0:13:54.600 --> 0:13:57.080 where things are gonna start flaring up all Also, the 0:13:57.160 --> 0:13:59.360 rosters are going to expand, so teams that are in 0:13:59.400 --> 0:14:01.439 the playoffs is not like it was before, you know, 0:14:01.480 --> 0:14:03.520 almost thank god. Do you miss it all the forty 0:14:03.559 --> 0:14:06.680 man roster with all the guys. I can't imagine anyone does. 0:14:06.720 --> 0:14:09.680 There's there's not as much manipulation with only like three 0:14:09.720 --> 0:14:12.319 more spots added to a lineup where you're gonna just 0:14:12.360 --> 0:14:14.719 start benching all of your vets, but you're gonna see 0:14:14.720 --> 0:14:15.199 a little. 0:14:15.000 --> 0:14:15.880 Bit of it. Yeah. 0:14:15.920 --> 0:14:17.520 I'm so much more in favor of this, even for 0:14:17.600 --> 0:14:20.680 fantasy purposes, because it was almost impossible to play September 0:14:20.720 --> 0:14:22.640 fantasy with all the call ups because playing time was 0:14:22.640 --> 0:14:25.560 such a disaster. So big fan of this new move 0:14:25.640 --> 0:14:28.800 and we still had to see half decent baseball at least. 0:14:29.200 --> 0:14:31.920 Yeah, And I think that was like one of the 0:14:31.920 --> 0:14:35.760 big catalysts to pushing the ending fantasy baseball in August. 0:14:36.160 --> 0:14:38.840 The movements. Bagwin is pretty big about this for a 0:14:38.840 --> 0:14:42.200 long time, was making sure fantasy was done by August. 0:14:42.600 --> 0:14:45.480 That's because he's so deep into football he can't handle both. 0:14:45.520 --> 0:14:46.720 He's not a big enough man. 0:14:47.200 --> 0:14:49.720 I agree with that. I definitely definitely not a big 0:14:49.800 --> 0:14:51.960 enough man. I definitely agree with that, but I think 0:14:52.000 --> 0:14:54.920 it had to do more with the chaos that was. 0:14:55.080 --> 0:14:57.120 Yeah, it's true. Joe PCP is the same way. 0:14:57.560 --> 0:14:59.640 Yeah, And I mean, I don't know, I'm not actually 0:14:59.680 --> 0:15:01.040 not a g instant because there's still going to be 0:15:01.080 --> 0:15:03.840 some manipulation. Because what you're gonna see is this is 0:15:03.840 --> 0:15:06.040 going to be the time of year where you are 0:15:06.080 --> 0:15:09.560 going to have teams just you know, doing whatever they 0:15:09.600 --> 0:15:11.760 can to get some guys some extra rest, whether it 0:15:11.880 --> 0:15:14.440 is moving around in the miners, whether it is getting 0:15:14.440 --> 0:15:17.840 these extra call ups extra playing time like Rizzo. You know, 0:15:18.160 --> 0:15:20.200 not that Rizzo is like a catalyst to your fantasy team, 0:15:20.200 --> 0:15:23.280 but you know, if Rizzo's getting extra time with back injuries, 0:15:23.320 --> 0:15:25.440 they're waiting for the playoffs. They need him for the playoffs, 0:15:25.520 --> 0:15:28.320 not this last month. They're not fighting to that degree, 0:15:28.360 --> 0:15:29.880 so you might get him a little bit less. 0:15:29.880 --> 0:15:32.520 So one hundred percent completely agree with that. 0:15:32.960 --> 0:15:35.520 This day in baseball, this is a wonky piece. Nineteen 0:15:35.600 --> 0:15:41.160 fifty eight, the vinegar Ben Mizell of the Saint Louis 0:15:41.160 --> 0:15:45.640 Cardinals set a National League record by walking nine Is 0:15:45.680 --> 0:15:48.000 this a name no, Vinegar Bend Misle. 0:15:48.120 --> 0:15:49.480 Thats got to be the dude's name. 0:15:49.800 --> 0:15:51.520 Yeah, wow, his name is Vinegar. 0:15:51.560 --> 0:15:53.640 That's amazing to be the nickname. It's gonna Ben Mesel. 0:15:55.120 --> 0:15:58.080 Yeah, Bend set a National League record by walking nine 0:15:58.120 --> 0:16:01.840 batters and pitching a shutout miser beat Cincinnati won to nothing. 0:16:02.400 --> 0:16:06.520 Vinegar Bend mis And here's his baseball almanac. Let's check. 0:16:06.560 --> 0:16:08.120 Oh yeah, look at it. Oh yeah, his name was 0:16:08.280 --> 0:16:10.600 Wilmer Misl. Vinegar Ben. 0:16:10.880 --> 0:16:12.200 I go by Vinegar Ben too. 0:16:13.160 --> 0:16:18.720 Yeah, what a name. Vinigar Ben Misle was born August thirteenth, 0:16:18.760 --> 0:16:21.000 nineteen thirty. Misl was twenty one years old when he 0:16:21.000 --> 0:16:23.160 broke into the big leagues on April twenty second. That's 0:16:23.200 --> 0:16:26.600 my birthday, was not nineteen fifty two though, with the Cardinals. 0:16:27.640 --> 0:16:29.680 Is there anything about his nick I want to know 0:16:29.760 --> 0:16:30.800 about the nickname where we. 0:16:30.880 --> 0:16:33.440 Walkie says, that's the name. That's why it's on there. 0:16:34.080 --> 0:16:37.680 His name is Vinegar Bend Misle. 0:16:37.800 --> 0:16:39.120 I would have loved to have been in that locker 0:16:39.200 --> 0:16:41.000 room because I would add jokes for days that are 0:16:41.080 --> 0:16:42.160 appropriate for this show. 0:16:42.360 --> 0:16:44.360 I probably, I mean, they probably didn't have those jokes 0:16:44.400 --> 0:16:44.720 back then. 0:16:44.920 --> 0:16:45.520 That's true. 0:16:46.200 --> 0:16:48.200 Let's just say, one of my fantasy football team names 0:16:48.200 --> 0:16:49.720 in my home league is called Vinegar Strokes. 0:16:49.880 --> 0:16:51.400 Yeah, I was about to say, I knew, I knew 0:16:51.440 --> 0:16:54.160 exactly where you're going with that, Vinegar Ben Misle all 0:16:54.200 --> 0:16:57.400 time name. I got a trivia question for you. Gunner 0:16:57.440 --> 0:17:00.760 Henderson hits a homer in his debut. Who was the 0:17:00.880 --> 0:17:05.520 last Orioles player to hit a homer in his MLB debut? 0:17:05.640 --> 0:17:06.720 This is the trivia question. 0:17:06.800 --> 0:17:07.480 It's the chat. 0:17:07.880 --> 0:17:09.840 And uh, you know, Bubba can throw a little guests 0:17:09.840 --> 0:17:12.440 out there, but who's the last Oriole in their debut 0:17:12.720 --> 0:17:13.560 to hit a home run? 0:17:13.760 --> 0:17:15.240 That's good, that's real good. 0:17:15.440 --> 0:17:16.200 You got a guess. 0:17:16.320 --> 0:17:18.480 I mnsa say Trey Boo Boo Trademan scene. Even I'm 0:17:18.480 --> 0:17:20.760 probably wrong, but that's the guy I'm going with. That's 0:17:20.800 --> 0:17:21.160