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Speaker 1: Advice Shooter. It's welcome to the Normani Show. I'm your host,

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Speaker 1: Rob Shooter, and it is Tuesday, which means our dear

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Speaker 1: friend Delana Dixon joins us. Hey, miss are you there?

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Speaker 2: I am? Oh? Can we talk about the cold weather

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Speaker 2: we had.

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Speaker 1: Over the weekend? I know it's awful, isn't it? And

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Speaker 1: we have a fabulous, fabulous date and so I hate

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Speaker 1: it when it's cold because you can't look quite as cute.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I'm still gonna look cute. I will suffer to

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Speaker 2: look good for you, mister Shooter.

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Speaker 1: I think I'm gonna do the same. I'm gonna dress

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Speaker 1: really cute and bring along one of those big, ridiculous

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Speaker 1: like sleeping bag coats and just let you do it.

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Speaker 1: And then I'm just gonna drop my coat in the

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Speaker 1: middle of the floor and walk away like I am.

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Speaker 1: Marilyn Monroe. Okay, that's od night. I'll see Jolena, Missdy

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Speaker 1: five o'clock.

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Speaker 2: Bottos, Definitely, I'll see there.

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Speaker 1: What time is it? My friends? Is big story at

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Speaker 1: the top of the show tries Judici from the Real

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Speaker 1: Housewives of New Jersey has finally admitted that she staged

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Speaker 1: her prison release photographs saying I might as well make

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Speaker 1: some money. So if you don't remember in twenty and

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Speaker 1: fourteen and Trees spended some time in jail. I think

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Speaker 1: it was eleven months. This was a significant amount of

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Speaker 1: time after being convicted of bank mail, wire bankruptcy, and

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Speaker 1: tax fraud. Wow, that's quite a laundry. Now, when she

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Speaker 1: was released, photographers were there who happened to get pictures

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Speaker 1: of her? Now she's confessing that she did set up

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Speaker 1: the shoots. She goes on to say that this is

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Speaker 1: the only time I've ever done this. I'm not so sure.

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Speaker 1: And she said that the deal was made with the

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Speaker 1: paparazzi when I got out of jail. She said they

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Speaker 1: wanted the first photographs. So if they were going to

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Speaker 1: get them, so why shouldn't Tree so and some money

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Speaker 2: What do you think, Oh goodness, gracious, I mean, how

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Speaker 2: else would they know she was getting out unless somebody called.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if it's list of a date you're

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Speaker 2: supposed to get out of jail, if it's like readily available,

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Speaker 2: We'll have to ask my mom. She would know. But

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Speaker 2: you know, Rob, you've worked as a publicist, so you

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Speaker 2: would know that celebrities do sometimes plan photos, and it's

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Speaker 2: because they want to promote a new project or they're

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Speaker 2: trying to change the narrative of something that's going on.

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Speaker 2: So this really is no surprise. And if you can

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Speaker 2: get some money out of it, oh, child, we all

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Speaker 2: got to get a paycheck.

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Speaker 1: We got to get a paycheck. Yeah, you're right, it's

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Speaker 1: actually not surprising. This is done more often than not.

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Speaker 1: When I as a publicist, half of my day was

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Speaker 1: setting up photoshoots, was tipping off photographers, and I wasn't

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Speaker 1: doing it behind the celebrities back. They loved it. They

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Speaker 1: even knew the photographers. They even specifically told me who

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Speaker 1: they wanted there to take the picture. If something happens

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Speaker 1: and there's not a photograph, then did it really happen

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Speaker 1: in the world of celebrity, Maybe maybe not. Though I've

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Speaker 1: got to admit, Misty, over the last five years, I

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Speaker 1: think things have really changed because now we all have

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Speaker 1: a really great camera in the palm of our hands.

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Speaker 1: These iPhones are really, really, really great, and so ten

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Speaker 1: to fifteen years ago, having a professional photographer there, I

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Speaker 1: get it. But now you can have your best friend

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Speaker 1: do it and you don't even have to involve the paparazzi,

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Speaker 1: the photographers at all. You can get one hundred percent

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Speaker 1: of the money. You can take the pictures of mystery.

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Speaker 1: If ever I get a jail, I want you to

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Speaker 1: be waiting outside.

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Speaker 2: I will be waiting outside. I'll get a professional photographer.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to mess up the photos. It's all

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Speaker 2: about lighting. But also because of the change of time,

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Speaker 2: now people can just put what they want their information

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Speaker 2: on social media, so they can control the narrative on

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Speaker 2: their platform, so that has changed as well. But I

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Speaker 2: always think we'll need a need for the paparazzi because,

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Speaker 2: if we think about it, the paparazzi create news whether

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Speaker 2: you're posing and you're being fabulous to them or worse

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Speaker 2: when you're being awful to them, than you become the

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Speaker 2: head story on something like TMZ.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, are you still surprised, mister, You've done this for

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Speaker 1: a really long time now. Are you surprised at how

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Speaker 1: many of these shoots, these these times when we bump

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Speaker 2: No, I'm not surprised at all. I still think that

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Speaker 2: there's a lot of need for how you control your

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Speaker 2: because people have cameras and photos and they can catch

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Speaker 2: a need for looking glamorous in your photo. Not being

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Speaker 2: didn't realize the pups were gonna be here the paps.

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Speaker 1: That's the giveaway, isn't it. If you see a candid picture,

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Speaker 1: a casual picture of your favorite celebrity, and if their

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Speaker 1: real picture. When they're in a full ball con a

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Speaker 1: makeup just flewless. They tipped off the paps. That's the clue. Everybody,

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Speaker 1: then they're involved in this. If they look like they

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Speaker 1: really are caught a little off guard picking their noses,

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Speaker 1: maybe they have some spinach in their teeth, then they

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Speaker 1: probably didn't tip off the paps. But I want to

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Speaker 1: know what you think about all this. Our whole question

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Speaker 1: of the day is Teresa admits that she staged her

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Speaker 1: prison release photographs because she wanted to make the money.

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Speaker 1: No irony there with Teresa. So she got out of

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Speaker 1: jail for basically stealing money, and now she's going to

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Speaker 1: she didn't really understand the irony of that. But that

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Speaker 1: isn't the question. Our question is was it right? Is

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Speaker 1: this a smart thing to do? Teresa made some money,

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Speaker 1: and so instead of letting the photographers make the money,

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Speaker 1: Teresa made the money. Was this the right thing to do? Hey,

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Speaker 1: go vote on our Twitter pagecknady and nice rob at

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Speaker 1: ban be sure to check back tomorrow to hear your results.

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Speaker 1: I my, Steve, what are you working on that? Well?

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Speaker 2: This is kind of bummer news. Valerie Burtnelli has been

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Speaker 2: acts from Food Networks Kids Baking Championship she was hosting

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Speaker 2: for the past twelve seasons, and she's finally revealing how

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Speaker 2: sad she is about it and the reason why, and

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Speaker 2: it has to do with budget cuts. So she says,

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Speaker 2: I've been avoiding facing what I got confirmation of last night,

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Speaker 2: and I didn't want to talk about it then because

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Speaker 2: on it, because it really hurt my feelings. Logistically, I

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Speaker 2: know the business and I understand budget cuts, right, but

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Speaker 2: it's really hurt my feelings that I'm not going to

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Speaker 2: be asked back. And the reason why this is so

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Speaker 2: important to her is because when she started the show

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Speaker 2: twelve seasons ago, really saved her life. She was going

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Speaker 2: through the Apex Year of Hell her words, through her

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Speaker 2: for her. She was hosting with co host Duff Goldman

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Speaker 2: since twoenty fifteen. I mean, this is such a bummer.

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Speaker 2: You have a job, you think it's going to be there,

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Speaker 2: and then all of a sudden it's not. What do

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Speaker 1: Ah? This is no different than the rest of us.

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Speaker 1: We've all lost jobs, maybe through budget cuts for different reasons.

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Speaker 1: It's always painful. It's never easy, particularly when you've had

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Speaker 1: something you get used to and you don't realize I'm really,

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Speaker 1: really lucky to do the work that I do. I

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Speaker 1: understand what she's saying here. You feel like you're worthless.

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Speaker 1: It feels like your value is being stripped away. And

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Speaker 1: you know, we all understand budget cuts, but I think

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Speaker 1: you do ask yourself why was my job cut and

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Speaker 1: not theirs? Like? Why was I the one in this

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Speaker 1: budget that was cut? And it never feels good. There's

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Speaker 1: no way to make that feel good except to get

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Speaker 1: back up and keep on going. That's all you can do.

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Speaker 1: Feel the pain. I give myself a couple of days

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Speaker 1: to lalla in myself pity Misty. When something bad happens,

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Speaker 1: I can be sad just for a few days, not months,

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Speaker 1: not weeks, and certainly not years. Some people hold onto

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Speaker 1: things for way, way too long. What I do the

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Speaker 1: ultimate revenge, the ultimate way to recover from this is

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Speaker 1: to get back up. She will be fine. She's very talented.

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Speaker 1: She'll find another gig. I'm really sure about it. But

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Speaker 1: I do like she's being this honist because even big stars,

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Speaker 1: I mean she's a big, big star, she has a

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Speaker 1: lot of money. Even people like Valerie do get fired Misty.

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Speaker 1: It can happen to anybody.

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Speaker 2: It can happen to anyone. As we know in our business,

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Speaker 2: it happens all the time, and you're not given a

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Speaker 2: one day at a time. I see books coming out

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Speaker 2: no one can take that away from her. YEA to yourself,

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Speaker 1: Do it yourself. Okay, moving along. Jamie Dorman, who I

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Speaker 1: attack symptoms. However, it is to do with a toxic caterpillar.

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Speaker 1: You heard that right. So JB found himself in hospital

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Speaker 1: this because his friend revealed that they were rushed to

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Speaker 1: hospital experiencing the same symptoms. They were on a golfing trip,

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Speaker 1: if it's in your left arm, and they thought, oh,

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Speaker 1: my goodness, could this be a heart attack. Now they're

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Speaker 1: fairly healthy guys, I'd say very healthy eyes. They look incredible,

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Speaker 1: it could happen. So they did the right thing. They

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Speaker 1: And so thankfully they're both going to be okay. But

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Speaker 1: when you have symptoms, when your body is telling you something,

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Speaker 2: And I think they said that they thought maybe we

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Speaker 2: partied a little too hard the night before, but in

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Speaker 2: this case, they were like, let's check on it, let's

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Speaker 2: make sure everything is okay. And again for two guys,

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Speaker 2: and you know they're not up there in age too

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Speaker 2: high to suddenly feel like they're having a heart attack.

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Speaker 2: That is really strange. And this toxic caterpillar is such

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Speaker 2: a small thing but so dangerous. Yes, always watch the

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Speaker 2: small ones, always watch.

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Speaker 1: Yes, if we see a caterpillar coming close to us. Tonight,

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Speaker 1: mister shoeing away. I will shoeshoeshoe. Okay, what else are

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Speaker 1: What are these two?

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