1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:01,360 Speaker 1: Oh, what's up? Everybody? 2 00:00:01,480 --> 00:00:04,640 Speaker 2: Welcome into a Friday editione at Texans All Ax. I'm 3 00:00:04,720 --> 00:00:07,840 Speaker 2: your host, John Harris, football analyst, sideline reporter for your 4 00:00:07,920 --> 00:00:11,240 Speaker 2: Houston Texans, and man, do we have a fun show 5 00:00:11,600 --> 00:00:18,440 Speaker 2: for you this evening. Antonio Smith the Ninja sits down 6 00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:22,919 Speaker 2: with nd Kolu. All right, listening to this thing, I 7 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:26,279 Speaker 2: had to because well, ninja can get loose, if you 8 00:00:26,320 --> 00:00:28,320 Speaker 2: know what I mean, and on the radio that sometimes 9 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:31,040 Speaker 2: isn't great, but it is fantastic. 10 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:31,920 Speaker 1: Get his great stuff. 11 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:35,600 Speaker 2: He talks about his time getting drafted, He talks about 12 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:39,760 Speaker 2: cultivating's relationship with teammates and coaches, which is really really good, 13 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:43,479 Speaker 2: and he talks about his time here in Houston, but 14 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:47,519 Speaker 2: he starts off kind of how he gets into the NFL. Indeed, 15 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:49,880 Speaker 2: does a great job of this interview. Take a list 16 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 2: in Texans OG podcast Indie Kalu with Antonio Smith. 17 00:00:55,280 --> 00:00:58,720 Speaker 3: I am Indi Kalu sitting here with one of my 18 00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 3: favorite Texans. I'm not just saying that because he's on 19 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:05,959 Speaker 3: the OG podcast, but it's because he wore my number 20 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:08,240 Speaker 3: were a little bit better than I did, and he 21 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:10,959 Speaker 3: was a guy that I just really enjoyed watching when 22 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:14,200 Speaker 3: I retired. Loved the way he played the game, his 23 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:17,880 Speaker 3: attitude and everything he brought to it. Antonio Smith defensive 24 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:21,400 Speaker 3: end d lineman because he could play all five positions, 25 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:23,160 Speaker 3: joined us of the OG podcast. 26 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:24,200 Speaker 4: What's going on, Ninja? 27 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 5: Hey man? What's going on out there? 28 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:28,560 Speaker 3: Same old same here in Houston? All right, let the 29 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:30,880 Speaker 3: people know where are you? Where's home? I see the 30 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 3: beautiful backdrop with all the awarded footballs and trophies, and 31 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:38,160 Speaker 3: I see that. So where's home right now? 32 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 6: Still back in Oklahoma? You know, as soon as I 33 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:42,920 Speaker 6: left Houston, I came back home. 34 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:45,679 Speaker 5: What is it about I always had my rancher, but 35 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 5: I just went back. 36 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:49,240 Speaker 4: To my Okay, why not in Texas? 37 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 3: Like you were one of the few guys I was 38 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:52,720 Speaker 3: hoping would have retired to Texas. 39 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 4: So what is it about Oklahoma that stole your heart? 40 00:01:56,000 --> 00:02:00,919 Speaker 6: I would say, it's just home, you know, fam. 41 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 5: But it was really close, Like it was really close. 42 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 5: You know. 43 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 6: I love Houston and I was really really fighting back 44 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:15,119 Speaker 6: and forth with where I was gonna stay. And then 45 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:19,240 Speaker 6: you know, family and my kids and had to get 46 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:19,920 Speaker 6: closer to them. 47 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:22,799 Speaker 3: Makes sense, makes sense to talk about your playing this 48 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:26,120 Speaker 3: because one thing I talked about your intensity, you know, 49 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 3: not just getting after the passer, but the way you 50 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 3: played the run, the passion. I'll never forget when you 51 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:36,079 Speaker 3: got after what's that guy's name, He made a name 52 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:41,440 Speaker 3: for himself being a bully. Yes, like I actually wanted 53 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:43,800 Speaker 3: to jump out of the scenes and have your back, but 54 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:46,519 Speaker 3: just kind of talk about what was your approach going 55 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 3: into every game. 56 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:49,640 Speaker 5: It kind of changed throughout the years, you know. 57 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:54,920 Speaker 6: When I first started off in Arizona, we had like 58 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:57,679 Speaker 6: a little crew that that kind of made a name 59 00:02:57,760 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 6: for ourself as being you know, old school grid iron, 60 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:06,640 Speaker 6: hard nose, you know, in your face, you know football, 61 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 6: and it kind of just stuck. It kind of stuck 62 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 6: with me, you know, just being aggressive, let my personality 63 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:19,800 Speaker 6: and its presence be shown, you know, and at the 64 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 6: same time having fun and smiling. You know that the 65 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:25,919 Speaker 6: fun is smiling kind of came out more in Houston, 66 00:03:26,240 --> 00:03:29,040 Speaker 6: you know, but it was a bit of a mixture there. 67 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 6: It's just part of my personality. I would say. 68 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:35,120 Speaker 3: I think one of the reasons why I felt like 69 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:37,080 Speaker 3: as a fan because when you were playing and when 70 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 3: I retired, I kind of gravitated towards you. The success 71 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 3: you had and I was a fifth round pick. You 72 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:45,120 Speaker 3: were a fifth round pick. And did you kind of 73 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 3: have that chip on your shoulder coming into the league, like, 74 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 3: hold on, I know I'm better than this guy and 75 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:52,120 Speaker 3: he went before me. Or what was kind of like 76 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:54,480 Speaker 3: coming into the league. Were you happy with where you 77 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 3: were drafted or did you feel like you wanted to 78 00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 3: prove some some of the people that passed on you wrong. 79 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 6: Oh, definitely, definitely I had a chip on my shoulder 80 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 6: when I first came in the league. I think Arizona 81 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 6: called me in the second round and they was like, 82 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:16,839 Speaker 6: we're thinking about taking you. 83 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:17,279 Speaker 5: You know, here in the next round, so be by 84 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:19,920 Speaker 5: your phone and so set. 85 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:23,320 Speaker 6: There waiting, you know, and the whole day went by. 86 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 6: The whole day went by nothing. Then come the second day, 87 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 6: Denny Green caused me and he was like, man, we 88 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 6: didn't think that we'll still be able to get you 89 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 6: this low, but we was. And how do you feel 90 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:39,599 Speaker 6: about coming to being Arizona Cardinal? 91 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:43,799 Speaker 5: Now? When I first got his first call, it was excitement. 92 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:46,919 Speaker 6: By the time he called me that second time, I 93 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 6: was hot. I was hot, so as he was talking 94 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:55,479 Speaker 6: to me, you know, it's still a tremendous opportunity, but 95 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:59,839 Speaker 6: I was kind of like, yeah, whatever, man, okay, you know, 96 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 6: and then when I. 97 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 5: Got down there. 98 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 6: When I got down there, it was kind of still 99 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:09,040 Speaker 6: on that on that same scene, and I got in 100 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:10,280 Speaker 6: trouble one time. 101 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:12,680 Speaker 5: Man, I had that chip on my. 102 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 6: Shoulder really really carried a lot of weight in my heart. 103 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:20,279 Speaker 6: And it was one time Denny Green kind of noticed it. 104 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 6: You know, hats out to Denny Green. Man. 105 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:24,919 Speaker 5: He really went to bat for me. 106 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:29,000 Speaker 6: He kind of noticed him coming in late, not carring 107 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:38,760 Speaker 6: fighting coaches us and coaches everything, you know, and and he, uh, 108 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:44,520 Speaker 6: he asked me this question about how do I feel 109 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:47,560 Speaker 6: now about you know, where I was drafted at. 110 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:51,480 Speaker 5: You know that I think that I deserve, you. 111 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:58,560 Speaker 6: Know more, And I asked him and I answered, I said, yeah, 112 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:02,279 Speaker 6: I'm looking at the guys, you know, I'm on the 113 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:06,640 Speaker 6: I'm on the practice squad, and I'm getting down through 114 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:08,840 Speaker 6: that with the starters, you know, and I'm saying some 115 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:10,360 Speaker 6: guys out there that that you. 116 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:13,360 Speaker 5: Know, wasn't no, wasn't wasn't. 117 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:17,119 Speaker 6: Doing at the same time, you know, at the same 118 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 6: caliber I was going at. And so he kind of 119 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:25,039 Speaker 6: broke some things down to me on the responsibility of of, 120 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:29,120 Speaker 6: you know, holding that position of being a starter all 121 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 6: start in the league, and as I looked at it, 122 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:33,240 Speaker 6: I knew it was a lot of work I had 123 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:36,680 Speaker 6: to do. So that I think it was that day forward, 124 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:40,240 Speaker 6: I kind of let the chip on my shoulder go 125 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 6: and I just went in the grind mode. 126 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 5: At that time. 127 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 6: It was all just I'm gonna fight anybody, just out 128 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:48,280 Speaker 6: on deserve to be here. 129 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:52,240 Speaker 5: Ain't nobody finna punk me? You know it was, it was. 130 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:54,680 Speaker 5: It was on that kind of level. 131 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:58,680 Speaker 2: You're listening to Antonio Smith with Indy klu on the 132 00:06:58,720 --> 00:06:59,720 Speaker 2: Texans og. 133 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:01,360 Speaker 1: PODCAS and Texans All Access. 134 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:03,720 Speaker 3: Man, I love that story, and you know what, I've 135 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 3: heard that story and I kind of went through something similar. 136 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 3: And to this day, Antonio, I don't know why they 137 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 3: call us, why they called you during the draft, because 138 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 3: it's not like you have to choose them because I 139 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 3: win the fifth round also, and Cincinnati called me and said, hey, 140 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:21,920 Speaker 3: we don't think you're going past the third round, but 141 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:24,120 Speaker 3: if for some reason you're there, we're gonna take you 142 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:26,040 Speaker 3: and kind of like you. But I kept it to 143 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 3: myself because something I was like, we'll see, so third 144 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 3: round comes and goes then I'm like, Okay, well maybe 145 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:35,640 Speaker 3: it's the fourth round. Fourth round comes and goes. Then 146 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 3: late in the fifth round, I'm starting to think about 147 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:41,120 Speaker 3: going to grad school and going to the military. Then 148 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 3: I finally got that call from Ray Roads in Philadelphia. 149 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 3: But and I've had other guests on and they tell 150 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 3: me that other people will teams will call players, and 151 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 3: I just don't know why they do it, Like, can 152 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 3: you explain to me why would you call a player 153 00:07:56,160 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 3: that you don't have to convince him because if you 154 00:07:58,280 --> 00:07:59,679 Speaker 3: draft him, he has to go there anyway. 155 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 5: I don't know. 156 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:04,160 Speaker 6: I think it's our for show, you know, That's what 157 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 6: it kind of feels like, you know, it's all for 158 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 6: show because if. 159 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 5: Another team did draft me, ain't nothing I could do 160 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 5: a show? 161 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:17,400 Speaker 6: Why call to uh to reassure me other than you know, 162 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 6: like maybe cameras or maybe maybe for show. 163 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 5: I don't know. 164 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 3: I don't know for the life that Yeah, I still 165 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:28,560 Speaker 3: don't know. But it sounds like that was a pivotal 166 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 3: part of your career when it was coach Green right, 167 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 3: Dennis Green all right, when he when he had that 168 00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:36,800 Speaker 3: conversation with you, Is that kind of when you when 169 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 3: you turned it around mentally. 170 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 5: Oh, definitely, because I mean I was I was then 171 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:50,720 Speaker 5: late in this. I would be in the wrong and 172 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 5: still go off trying to call me out of it. 173 00:08:58,440 --> 00:09:00,960 Speaker 6: When he took when he took me to side, he 174 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 6: put me to the side that day, you know, because 175 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 6: they went and got a peppy Zeller. We had fred 176 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:12,960 Speaker 6: Fred Wakefield and in training camp they had moved me 177 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 6: up to tools, They moved me up to toos and 178 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:20,960 Speaker 6: they was gonna move Fred Wakefield to tight end. 179 00:09:22,679 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 5: That same day. 180 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 6: Now I don't know if it was on purpose or not, 181 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:30,200 Speaker 6: but we doing one on one drills with the D 182 00:09:30,280 --> 00:09:32,840 Speaker 6: line and I'm down at my stands waiting to do 183 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:33,720 Speaker 6: the one on one. 184 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:37,400 Speaker 5: Block recognition and the snap counts on two. 185 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 6: The ball ain't even snapping and he's the offense which 186 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:44,559 Speaker 6: is basically scout team, and he jumps off side and 187 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:46,959 Speaker 6: as far as into my shoulder while my arm is 188 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:49,000 Speaker 6: still in the ground, separating my shoulder. Oh. 189 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:53,080 Speaker 1: I still to this day don't know like man on. 190 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:55,120 Speaker 5: Purpose, you know, it was kind of. 191 00:09:56,640 --> 00:09:59,000 Speaker 6: It had me thinking that for a split second, I 192 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 6: separated my shoulders. 193 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 5: So my whole first training camp. 194 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:06,559 Speaker 6: I didn't get back to practicing for like that that 195 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:10,160 Speaker 6: last preseason game week, and so that's all I had 196 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:14,560 Speaker 6: to to show was that last preseason game week. But 197 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:17,960 Speaker 6: by that time they had already you know, prepared for 198 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:20,600 Speaker 6: the worst winning and got Peppy. 199 00:10:21,400 --> 00:10:25,560 Speaker 5: You know, they went on to still move Fred to 200 00:10:25,559 --> 00:10:26,520 Speaker 5: the tight. 201 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 6: End and then they started Peppy over Calvin Page, which 202 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:37,800 Speaker 6: I don't understand that either, but I think it was 203 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:40,680 Speaker 6: more or less one of them things. With Denny Green 204 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:43,440 Speaker 6: was one of those guys that like, who I bring 205 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:47,360 Speaker 6: in here? It is who gonna make all was here 206 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:50,920 Speaker 6: before you pretty much on the chopcolate block. I never 207 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:53,680 Speaker 6: seen nobody cut people like Denny Green did, Like he'll 208 00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:55,200 Speaker 6: walk by you and tell you cut. 209 00:10:56,320 --> 00:11:01,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, he had everybody afraid. Only one stuff the only 210 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:03,560 Speaker 5: one I see ste up to him with Dexter Jackson. 211 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:09,000 Speaker 4: That's awesome. No wonder you were mad they were here. 212 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:11,840 Speaker 3: First of all, they drafting you late, then they taking 213 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:14,800 Speaker 3: chief shots on you. But that anger, I feel like 214 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:16,400 Speaker 3: that helps a lot of the grades. I mean, you 215 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:20,280 Speaker 3: had a great career. You don't have forty seven plus 216 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:24,040 Speaker 3: sacks in the NFL if you're just an average player. 217 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:27,640 Speaker 3: So did that chip help because it sounds like you 218 00:11:27,679 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 3: said you got rid of it when you came to 219 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:31,640 Speaker 3: Houston and you bought out in Houston. But did it 220 00:11:31,720 --> 00:11:34,360 Speaker 3: help you kind of with that nastiness. 221 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:34,320 Speaker 4: You have to have. 222 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:36,480 Speaker 5: I'd be perfectly honest. 223 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:37,000 Speaker 4: Anger. 224 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:43,240 Speaker 5: Anger is what propelled my high school and college career. 225 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:46,120 Speaker 6: So that chip on and I always had that underdog 226 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:47,440 Speaker 6: chip on my shoulder, you know. 227 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:48,920 Speaker 5: It was always same. 228 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 6: Situation happened coming out of high school going into college, 229 00:11:52,040 --> 00:11:55,040 Speaker 6: you know, not being recruited by the schools that I 230 00:11:55,200 --> 00:11:58,680 Speaker 6: wanted to be recruited by. So when I got my opportunity, 231 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 6: you know, it was definitely a chip woman. 232 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 5: I mean, it's like the story repeated. 233 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:07,240 Speaker 6: Almost you know, I went to OSU. They promised me 234 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:10,320 Speaker 6: the world to go to OSU. I go there with them, 235 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:15,319 Speaker 6: and they got two solid guys starting when they told 236 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:19,800 Speaker 6: me I'm gonna start with Greg Richmond and Kareem Smith, 237 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:24,359 Speaker 6: and Kareem got hurt. 238 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 5: And that chip on my shoulder. It was just automatically 239 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:27,680 Speaker 5: down in my mind. 240 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:32,400 Speaker 6: Like the day I get on this field and it 241 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:35,439 Speaker 6: ain't gonna be nothing else after that. And I got 242 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:36,599 Speaker 6: that one game. 243 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:39,440 Speaker 5: To start when Kareem hurt, and that was it. I 244 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:42,280 Speaker 5: love it, you know, and me and Kareem was brothers 245 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 5: brother like, we was close, like we stayed in the 246 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:50,079 Speaker 5: same house and everything. And he was hot. It was hot. 247 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:52,679 Speaker 6: He came back off for injury and I was just 248 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:54,400 Speaker 6: going in the front of the line like coach had 249 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:55,200 Speaker 6: been making me do. 250 00:12:55,640 --> 00:12:58,240 Speaker 5: He went off on me. Don't think just because I 251 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:00,200 Speaker 5: was hurt, you going in front of the line, Now, 252 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:01,640 Speaker 5: I don't think you got my job. 253 00:13:02,760 --> 00:13:05,880 Speaker 6: So I walked to the back of the being me 254 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:08,960 Speaker 6: and Greg laughing about it because I already coach it. 255 00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:10,920 Speaker 5: I told me I knew I was gonna be starting 256 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:11,800 Speaker 5: for the rest of the year. 257 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:15,559 Speaker 6: Yeah, And so we waited till the game comes Saturday. 258 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:18,280 Speaker 5: Boy, and he was hot. 259 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:21,240 Speaker 6: He was hot, and it was kind of like the 260 00:13:21,320 --> 00:13:26,120 Speaker 6: same thing in Arizona. You know, they tried to me, 261 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:27,920 Speaker 6: this is what it felt like. It might not have 262 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:30,760 Speaker 6: been that way, but how I see it is that 263 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:33,440 Speaker 6: they tried everything they could to keep me on that 264 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:36,880 Speaker 6: practice squad. You know, we had we had like a 265 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:40,680 Speaker 6: verage of injuries, and we had a verazon injuries. Like 266 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:43,640 Speaker 6: I'm like, the next guy up, I'm like, okay, I 267 00:13:43,640 --> 00:13:46,320 Speaker 6: should be coming up off the practice squad. The next 268 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:48,800 Speaker 6: next guy up, Well, they're going to get a guy 269 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:53,959 Speaker 6: off the street. Wow, tell me to teach the guy 270 00:13:54,040 --> 00:13:55,400 Speaker 6: off the street the defense. 271 00:13:55,520 --> 00:13:55,800 Speaker 5: Wow. 272 00:13:57,840 --> 00:13:58,040 Speaker 3: Yeah. 273 00:13:58,080 --> 00:14:00,600 Speaker 5: His name was our call true Luck. He told me 274 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:02,800 Speaker 5: to teach him the defense so he can have the 275 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:05,319 Speaker 5: defense down by Sunday. 276 00:14:06,559 --> 00:14:08,719 Speaker 6: So he could he was gonna start because that's how 277 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:12,920 Speaker 6: many injuries we had. Calvin Page guy heard, Birch and 278 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:16,839 Speaker 6: Barry got hurt Bred not Fred. 279 00:14:16,600 --> 00:14:22,560 Speaker 5: But uh who else got? Pyle got hurt Vandbosh. It 280 00:14:22,680 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 5: was just everybody heard. 281 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:27,320 Speaker 6: The only ones that ended up still being healthy to 282 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:31,040 Speaker 6: play was us what I call rejects, who brought the 283 00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:36,160 Speaker 6: team to a top five defense and Dockett Donell Dockett, 284 00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:39,280 Speaker 6: which is my brother, and then uh, my other brother, 285 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 6: chie kl Keifer and that. 286 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:43,080 Speaker 5: That was it. 287 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:46,800 Speaker 6: We had one extra guy. We had h extra guy 288 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:53,480 Speaker 6: on the bitch and also a form of Texan on 289 00:14:53,640 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 6: there with us, and we went to the game. I meant, 290 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:02,120 Speaker 6: I'm at the hotel and they say, you know, he 291 00:15:02,200 --> 00:15:04,600 Speaker 6: can't get the defense down, so we're going to start 292 00:15:04,640 --> 00:15:06,040 Speaker 6: you for this games. 293 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:13,560 Speaker 5: Coach done, it was done. It was done. 294 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:17,120 Speaker 6: I mean I'm chasing it down everything, I'm chasing down 295 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:20,240 Speaker 6: stuff from the back, you know, I'm I'm trying to 296 00:15:20,280 --> 00:15:23,240 Speaker 6: make sure that you never don't take me off this 297 00:15:23,320 --> 00:15:25,880 Speaker 6: field again. And I finished. I started the rest of 298 00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:26,360 Speaker 6: that year. 299 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 3: Really, that's big. So after that game, you started for 300 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:31,640 Speaker 3: the remainder of the year. 301 00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:35,160 Speaker 6: I ain't looked back since I've been a start. I 302 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:37,040 Speaker 6: was the starter ever since after that game. 303 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:39,800 Speaker 3: That's strong, brother, So tell me this, Yeah, when did 304 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:42,840 Speaker 3: you go knock on the door and say I told 305 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:46,160 Speaker 3: you so, like, because I know you did it, because 306 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:48,960 Speaker 3: I could already tell. When did you tell one of 307 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:50,960 Speaker 3: the coaches like, man, I told you I could do 308 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 3: this when you give me a chance. 309 00:15:53,560 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 5: To be honest, I do it every play. 310 00:15:55,960 --> 00:15:59,320 Speaker 6: So if I make a play, oh, y'all, what I 311 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:02,040 Speaker 6: was gonna do all yeah to do is let the 312 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:04,680 Speaker 6: dog off the chain. You say that all the time, 313 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:08,960 Speaker 6: all the time, So I thank you pretty much every play, 314 00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:11,360 Speaker 6: every play, I did it with my play, you know. 315 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:13,480 Speaker 5: And after I make a play, I'm letting you know 316 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:15,280 Speaker 5: you know what it was. 317 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:16,040 Speaker 4: All right? 318 00:16:16,040 --> 00:16:18,920 Speaker 2: You've been listening to Antonio Smith along with nd klu 319 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:20,600 Speaker 2: on the Texas og podcast. 320 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:22,320 Speaker 1: Well more for you after the break. 321 00:16:22,400 --> 00:16:25,360 Speaker 2: But I wanted to go back to something Antonio said 322 00:16:25,840 --> 00:16:30,480 Speaker 2: because he mentions releasing the dogs, letting the dogs go. 323 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:33,360 Speaker 2: And I told this story on in the Lab podcast 324 00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:36,640 Speaker 2: about Antonio and it was back his first day of 325 00:16:36,680 --> 00:16:39,640 Speaker 2: practice in two thousand and nine, and I was there 326 00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:41,320 Speaker 2: with my buddy lands Are Line. We were at the 327 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:45,840 Speaker 2: front kind of we had ringside seats for one on ones. 328 00:16:46,040 --> 00:16:47,960 Speaker 1: Now, before the collective party agreement, you. 329 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:53,120 Speaker 2: Could you could bang first day pads on banging first 330 00:16:53,200 --> 00:16:57,200 Speaker 2: day let's go. So first day of practice, first time 331 00:16:57,240 --> 00:16:59,680 Speaker 2: we got a chance to see this team. They're doing 332 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:04,720 Speaker 2: one on ones and Mario and Antonio are jumping off 333 00:17:04,840 --> 00:17:10,960 Speaker 2: sides like I mean there, it's almost every play they're 334 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:11,879 Speaker 2: trying to jump the snap. 335 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:15,280 Speaker 1: They're trying to get a head start. By about the fourth. 336 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:17,120 Speaker 2: Or fifth one, I could see defensive line coach Bill 337 00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:20,359 Speaker 2: Colar just he's fuming. The first couple of them, he 338 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:25,440 Speaker 2: kind of let loose with you know verbal you know, hey, 339 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:27,359 Speaker 2: what are we doing sort of thing with a little 340 00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:30,480 Speaker 2: bit more power and some spicier language. So by the 341 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:32,159 Speaker 2: time he got to about the fourth one, he was 342 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:35,600 Speaker 2: all out of steam. But he was close enough to 343 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:38,879 Speaker 2: Antonio where he said something and we couldn't hear what 344 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:43,199 Speaker 2: he said, but Antonio looked over at him and was 345 00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:47,720 Speaker 2: ready to go to blows. He was ready to fight 346 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:51,720 Speaker 2: and started yelling, you want me to let the dog out, 347 00:17:52,280 --> 00:17:55,000 Speaker 2: I'll show you the dog. I'll let the dog out. 348 00:17:55,040 --> 00:17:57,120 Speaker 2: And they're having a whole back of Antonio from Bill 349 00:17:57,160 --> 00:18:00,760 Speaker 2: Colar and I'm standing next to Lane and I just 350 00:18:00,800 --> 00:18:03,200 Speaker 2: remember that was the big freed signing for Rick Smith 351 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:06,400 Speaker 2: and the Texans that offseason, and I just looked at Lance. 352 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:07,600 Speaker 1: Like, this is working out well. 353 00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:14,640 Speaker 2: It did work out well, but Antonio lost it. Now 354 00:18:14,680 --> 00:18:17,720 Speaker 2: you'll hear a little later in this interview what Antonio 355 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:22,080 Speaker 2: has to say about Bill Colar, and it's pretty good 356 00:18:22,160 --> 00:18:26,119 Speaker 2: and it's great, but that him talking about releasing the 357 00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:28,600 Speaker 2: dogs made me think of that story that first day 358 00:18:28,600 --> 00:18:32,320 Speaker 2: of practice in two thousand and nine, and. 359 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:34,600 Speaker 1: It was, I mean, I was scared to death. 360 00:18:34,600 --> 00:18:36,080 Speaker 2: I was like, oh my god, the Texas signed this 361 00:18:36,119 --> 00:18:38,760 Speaker 2: guy for all this money and he is just gonna 362 00:18:38,760 --> 00:18:41,159 Speaker 2: be a complete bust. And Antonio turned into one of 363 00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:43,639 Speaker 2: the great free agent signs. He's one we talk about 364 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:46,240 Speaker 2: and say that see free ag seeking work. Look at 365 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:48,840 Speaker 2: Antonio Smith. But he always felt like he was playing 366 00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:50,600 Speaker 2: with a chip on his shoulder. As you heard him 367 00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:54,080 Speaker 2: say so, once he started making some plays, once he 368 00:18:54,119 --> 00:18:58,479 Speaker 2: had become a starter, once he had shown that, and 369 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:01,600 Speaker 2: he asked some pretty important quest question. On the other side, 370 00:19:01,640 --> 00:19:05,200 Speaker 2: we'll get into more than Antonio Smith, including his feelings 371 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:11,080 Speaker 2: about the twenty eleven defense with Wade Phillips leading the way. 372 00:19:11,800 --> 00:19:16,840 Speaker 2: And let's just say that we gets mentioned. 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All right, let's 392 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:25,080 Speaker 2: get back to it with our buddy nd Klue talking 393 00:20:25,119 --> 00:20:30,320 Speaker 2: with Antonio Smith, the Ninja, one of all of our 394 00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:34,680 Speaker 2: favorites here in Houston. Great stuff man d who asked 395 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:40,800 Speaker 2: a really important question that I think drove Antonio Smith throughout. 396 00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:41,320 Speaker 1: His entire career. 397 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:44,080 Speaker 3: Do you think they know what they had in you, 398 00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:46,399 Speaker 3: but they felt like mentally he's not ready for the 399 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:49,400 Speaker 3: success or am I making an excuse for him? 400 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:54,080 Speaker 6: I think Danny Green, did you know? Because no matter 401 00:20:54,160 --> 00:21:01,639 Speaker 6: what I did to basically ruin my opportunity, he kept me. 402 00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:04,480 Speaker 6: You know, he he kept me. 403 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:06,360 Speaker 5: You know, he did. 404 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:09,280 Speaker 6: Frank Bush, you know, which was he was a linebacker 405 00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:11,560 Speaker 6: coach of Arizona, but then he was the defensive coordinator 406 00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:14,560 Speaker 6: that brought me into Houston, you know, and he always 407 00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:15,840 Speaker 6: sought something in me, you know. 408 00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:18,879 Speaker 5: And my hat's off to him, you know. He he 409 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:20,040 Speaker 5: uh he. 410 00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:22,960 Speaker 6: Brought me to Houston, and it was like a different feel. 411 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:27,840 Speaker 6: He showed me a place that wanted you to be there. 412 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:30,200 Speaker 6: You know, this is a place to shout after to 413 00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:32,400 Speaker 6: get me, not a place you know that you. 414 00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:39,879 Speaker 5: Know I'm good, but we're kind of looking for something else, 415 00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:41,639 Speaker 5: you know type of thing. So m h. 416 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:45,159 Speaker 3: So when you got to Houston, was that the first 417 00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:48,359 Speaker 3: time you truly felt appreciated. I mean, I know you 418 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:52,080 Speaker 3: started after uh yeah, after the game you started and 419 00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:53,600 Speaker 3: showed him you should have been started. But as far 420 00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:56,320 Speaker 3: as did they, I can't remember where you traded were. 421 00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:57,879 Speaker 3: You're a free agent and they came and got. 422 00:21:57,760 --> 00:22:01,480 Speaker 5: You a free agent, you know. Okay, So I stayed. 423 00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:03,320 Speaker 5: I stayed five years of Arizona. 424 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:07,920 Speaker 6: I did my exclusive rights tender and stayed that fifth 425 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:11,000 Speaker 6: year that we went to the super Bowl, and you know, 426 00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:14,600 Speaker 6: even taking the team to the super Bowl, it just 427 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:18,679 Speaker 6: still felt like you know, and I was I was naive. 428 00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:19,680 Speaker 5: I told him to you. 429 00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:24,000 Speaker 6: I said, hey, listen, man, I'm finna go here and 430 00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:25,959 Speaker 6: do this visit with the Texans. 431 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:28,520 Speaker 5: I'm gonna see what they tell me. And when they 432 00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:29,560 Speaker 5: what they tell me. 433 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:32,040 Speaker 6: I'm a call and tell y'all and you just tell 434 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:33,960 Speaker 6: me what you are off for me. You know, I said, 435 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:36,520 Speaker 6: I take less to stay because the way I the 436 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:42,640 Speaker 6: way I am, I'm more like loyal to what, especially Arizona, 437 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:45,520 Speaker 6: because you know we came from what we came from 438 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:46,920 Speaker 6: and turned into what we It was. 439 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:49,920 Speaker 5: Everything I knew. I didn't know anything else in the 440 00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:51,720 Speaker 5: office talked to him and I. 441 00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:53,879 Speaker 6: Sat there Rick Smith, and Rick Smith looked me in 442 00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:57,000 Speaker 6: the eye. He said, Antonio, I'm telling you not You're 443 00:22:57,040 --> 00:22:57,800 Speaker 6: not leaving. 444 00:22:57,560 --> 00:23:02,840 Speaker 5: This office until until we work. Gotta did so. I said, okay, yeah, yeah, ye. 445 00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:06,440 Speaker 5: As soon as he walked out the door, I text you, hey, Drew, 446 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:10,240 Speaker 5: see what Rod Greg just saying. You know, this is 447 00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:11,640 Speaker 5: what they say they gonna give us. 448 00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:15,880 Speaker 6: I text Drew that Drew texted Ride and Ride gave 449 00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:16,640 Speaker 6: me a college. 450 00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:18,800 Speaker 5: Just started giving me congratulations. 451 00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:21,520 Speaker 6: And the whole time he was giving me congratulations, I 452 00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:25,600 Speaker 6: was like, like this angle was just swelling up in me, 453 00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:30,359 Speaker 6: like you ain't gonna even you ain't gonna even try. 454 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:33,399 Speaker 6: He was like, Antonio, I'm so proud of you. You know, 455 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:35,679 Speaker 6: I think I thank you for all you did for 456 00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:39,480 Speaker 6: the Cardinal's organization. He said, just look at where you'd 457 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:41,800 Speaker 6: have made it how far you even came, you know, 458 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:44,160 Speaker 6: And he said, let me tell you something. Don't ever 459 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:50,840 Speaker 6: try to piss away an opportunity over you know, sentimental emotions. 460 00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:53,720 Speaker 6: This is a great thing for you. This is a 461 00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:57,959 Speaker 6: great opportunity for you, you know. And it kind of 462 00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:00,480 Speaker 6: it kind of rained all that in and it brought 463 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:04,040 Speaker 6: it into perspective and I was like, okay. And then 464 00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:08,440 Speaker 6: after that, you know, we left, I signed, we left 465 00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:13,199 Speaker 6: a dinner, and I mean from day one that I 466 00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:16,840 Speaker 6: was at Houston, I was like, this is heaven, Like. 467 00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:20,520 Speaker 5: This is amazing. I go to the grocery store. I 468 00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:27,359 Speaker 5: ain't never seen things look like that. I was like, 469 00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:28,040 Speaker 5: this is home. 470 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:31,840 Speaker 6: This was amazing, man. And I ain't looked back since. 471 00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:34,160 Speaker 6: I still love Ittown come back every year. 472 00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:35,840 Speaker 4: That's big. That's big. 473 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:38,240 Speaker 3: It sounds like at least two people, Dennis Green and 474 00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:40,160 Speaker 3: Rock Graves, they gave you some advice that. 475 00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:45,040 Speaker 4: You know that superseded football. Just some that's real talk. 476 00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:48,680 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, Don't let the emotion allow 477 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:51,040 Speaker 3: you to piss away a good deal like that. 478 00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:52,000 Speaker 4: That's pretty impressive. 479 00:24:52,880 --> 00:25:00,679 Speaker 6: Oh yeah, oh yeah, Rod Graves, Denny Green, Frank Bush, 480 00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:07,640 Speaker 6: Chad the chaplain at Arizona, you know, Chap the chaplain 481 00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:12,399 Speaker 6: in Houston. You know, really really pivotal in my life, 482 00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:15,480 Speaker 6: you know, really really pivot on my NFL. 483 00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:17,520 Speaker 5: Like before then it was called Dunbar. 484 00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:20,640 Speaker 6: It was my d line coach at OSU, you know, 485 00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:24,080 Speaker 6: who I think is one of the best coaches ever, 486 00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:27,600 Speaker 6: the coach, you know. And then once I got to Houston. 487 00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:30,840 Speaker 6: Once I got to Houston, I had this file out 488 00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:36,080 Speaker 6: with coach Kohlar, and then coach Cohlar becomes like. 489 00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:39,440 Speaker 5: Pivotal, like like one. 490 00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:42,919 Speaker 6: Of the top guys. I still communicate with him to 491 00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:43,400 Speaker 6: this day. 492 00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:45,160 Speaker 5: You know, I love him. You know, I love all 493 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:47,760 Speaker 5: my coaches that was down there Houston. 494 00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:51,480 Speaker 6: It's like a personal love, you know, a personal relationship. 495 00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:51,800 Speaker 5: You know. 496 00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:55,360 Speaker 6: When I went to Denver, that's everybody who was up there. 497 00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:57,960 Speaker 6: And it's just when you find guys like that in 498 00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:00,880 Speaker 6: the NFL. 499 00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:03,040 Speaker 5: Who you bond with, it becomes to be more than football. 500 00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:05,280 Speaker 6: It was more than football with Denny, it was more 501 00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:08,560 Speaker 6: than football with the advice Ride gave me. It's more 502 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:13,119 Speaker 6: than football. With Rick Smith. You know, still communicate Rick Smith. 503 00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:15,440 Speaker 6: It was more than football with all of those guys. 504 00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:18,919 Speaker 6: And I think that if you can find some guys 505 00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:21,600 Speaker 6: like that when you're in the league, man, it's it's 506 00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:24,679 Speaker 6: its relationships is gonna last you for life. 507 00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:28,399 Speaker 1: You're listening to Antonio Smith with ND Clue on the 508 00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:31,479 Speaker 1: Texans OG podcast right here in Texans All Access. 509 00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:34,480 Speaker 3: Even with those relationships lasting for life, it's still not 510 00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:37,159 Speaker 3: the same as when you're playing. How tough was it 511 00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:40,160 Speaker 3: for you to accept when you decided to retire that 512 00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:42,359 Speaker 3: you're not gonna suit up anymore, You're not gonna be 513 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:43,439 Speaker 3: in that locker room anymore. 514 00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:45,000 Speaker 4: What was that a tough transition for you? 515 00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:48,520 Speaker 5: It's more tough now. It wasn't tough then. I was 516 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:50,520 Speaker 5: kind of like. 517 00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:56,880 Speaker 6: I was kind of already drifting, like I was checking out, 518 00:26:57,040 --> 00:27:00,520 Speaker 6: you know, my mind was checking out, body hurting. 519 00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:04,000 Speaker 5: I never been a guy who be in the training room. 520 00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:05,800 Speaker 5: I used to talk about guys. 521 00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:07,960 Speaker 6: And that man, why y'all always y'all get here at 522 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:11,520 Speaker 6: five in the morning just to get some ice, just to. 523 00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:15,919 Speaker 5: Getting the train. I used to give him hell. But 524 00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:19,479 Speaker 5: uh that come the Twust the end of my career, 525 00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:23,720 Speaker 5: I was like, man, I gotta get in the hot 526 00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:29,200 Speaker 5: tug warm up. I gotta do this, I gotta do that. 527 00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:33,520 Speaker 6: So when them you know, something, them pages kind of 528 00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:37,200 Speaker 6: getting to me, you know. So, and it was getting 529 00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:39,879 Speaker 6: to me that that I had to spend that time 530 00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:44,119 Speaker 6: away from my kids, you know. And I gave those 531 00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:48,760 Speaker 6: earlier years all the way dedicated to to football, you know. 532 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:52,920 Speaker 6: So I was kind of I had my mindset and 533 00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:55,400 Speaker 6: I was like, I'm tired. You know. I even told 534 00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:58,520 Speaker 6: people maybe two two years before I retire, man, I'm 535 00:27:58,520 --> 00:27:59,160 Speaker 6: getting tired. 536 00:27:59,760 --> 00:27:59,960 Speaker 5: Yeah. 537 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:02,040 Speaker 6: After I had that long break, after I won the 538 00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:06,400 Speaker 6: Super Bowl with the Broncos. You know, it just got 539 00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:09,840 Speaker 6: me in that like like I'm done, I'm rested. And 540 00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:13,000 Speaker 6: then JJ got hurt and asked me to come back 541 00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:18,359 Speaker 6: with the Texan. I ain't had no thought about player, 542 00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:23,720 Speaker 6: no football. I was totally checked out. I was totally 543 00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:26,919 Speaker 6: checked out of football. But Rick caught me and asked me, 544 00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:29,360 Speaker 6: and what he did. You know, I was like, all right, 545 00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:33,399 Speaker 6: I got you. You know, I come back. I surprised myself, 546 00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:34,200 Speaker 6: you know. 547 00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:35,960 Speaker 5: I'm like, oh, man, I don't know if I'm gonna 548 00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:37,040 Speaker 5: get out here. 549 00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:40,840 Speaker 6: And I'm like, dang, you can still be guys. You know, 550 00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:47,880 Speaker 6: I've been out football this long and long still Okay, 551 00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:49,960 Speaker 6: I don't know if it's been a center live. It 552 00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:54,120 Speaker 6: probably could block me, but you know it was still fun. 553 00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:57,480 Speaker 6: It was still fun whooping up on some of them youngsters. 554 00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:00,800 Speaker 6: But when that season was all, I was all the 555 00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:02,840 Speaker 6: way done. I was like, all right, yeah, I'm going 556 00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:06,920 Speaker 6: home by job a couple of years. 557 00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:11,960 Speaker 3: But you said it's tougher now. That's interesting. It's because 558 00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:14,120 Speaker 3: your body feels better. So you're like, I could be 559 00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:15,600 Speaker 3: out there, or why is it tougher now. 560 00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:20,440 Speaker 6: I think it's tougher now because I hit that point 561 00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:26,440 Speaker 6: to where competition, you know, that camaraderie, you know, the 562 00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:31,840 Speaker 6: brotherhood is missed. You know it's missed. I messed around 563 00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:34,720 Speaker 6: and start I work out it this gym called fit. 564 00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:38,800 Speaker 6: You know, it's like some stuff I ain't never did before. 565 00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:43,360 Speaker 6: It's like that cross fit cardio, live music, jumping around 566 00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:46,680 Speaker 6: and you know, I enjoy it just to use it 567 00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:48,840 Speaker 6: as a way to do cardio because I can't just 568 00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:50,160 Speaker 6: walk on the tread man. 569 00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:54,920 Speaker 5: It's just boring. I didn't do it. And they they 570 00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:56,280 Speaker 5: did this competition thing. 571 00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:00,080 Speaker 6: You know, it's like a fit challenge, but it's the 572 00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:02,840 Speaker 6: competition and I joined it. 573 00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:05,640 Speaker 5: You know the whole time that just knowing me is 574 00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:10,200 Speaker 5: oh todyo. So y'all smiling sweet it is and that, and. 575 00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:16,920 Speaker 6: I got to compete and I realized, like, I missed, man, 576 00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:21,600 Speaker 6: I miss compete, you know, I missed testing you know, 577 00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:25,640 Speaker 6: my strength. I missed that competition, you know, because these 578 00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:30,960 Speaker 6: are regular like small people, and I'm getting aimed because 579 00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:31,960 Speaker 6: y'all cheap. 580 00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:39,880 Speaker 7: You know, he coming back up, it's coming back. I 581 00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:42,680 Speaker 7: ain't never seen me get like that. I'm like, oh, okay, 582 00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:46,520 Speaker 7: let me calm down. This is just friendly competition. This 583 00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:51,200 Speaker 7: ain't competition competition. Yeah, that's hilarious. So what place did 584 00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:51,720 Speaker 7: you get? 585 00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:55,040 Speaker 5: The first one I ever did? Me and my brother 586 00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:58,760 Speaker 5: David Hunter, we wonted. We just kind of compete. 587 00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:01,160 Speaker 6: We just kind of compete, didn't each other, you know, 588 00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:04,080 Speaker 6: and then for some reason we end up losing the 589 00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:07,720 Speaker 6: same amount of weight, and so they gave us like 590 00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:11,479 Speaker 6: cold winners, I guess whatever you call them. 591 00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:17,520 Speaker 5: But this last one, I think we took second. 592 00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:19,959 Speaker 6: It was a team one, you know, I think it 593 00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:22,720 Speaker 6: was three teams, red team, blue, team white teams. 594 00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:24,520 Speaker 5: I think we took second. 595 00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:26,840 Speaker 3: Well that's tough because you already lost the weight from 596 00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:30,160 Speaker 3: the first competition, so now you got it, you know, 597 00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:32,200 Speaker 3: what I'm saying, So you can only lose so much. 598 00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:34,160 Speaker 4: But no, I appreciate that. 599 00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:37,000 Speaker 3: When people ask me what I miss most, I probably 600 00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:39,920 Speaker 3: get a little too specific, but I want to get 601 00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:44,000 Speaker 3: your feel on this. I really miss flying home from 602 00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:47,080 Speaker 3: an away game after a victory, just kind of that 603 00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:51,240 Speaker 3: all the work we put in, you know, came to realization, 604 00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:53,640 Speaker 3: your body's still a little sore, but you actually won. 605 00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:56,600 Speaker 3: And back then when I played, we could still you know, 606 00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:59,560 Speaker 3: sneak a little drinking drink on the plane, so it 607 00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:02,840 Speaker 3: was like a party coming back. But that for some reason, 608 00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:04,800 Speaker 3: like I really missed that known. 609 00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:08,400 Speaker 6: As you bring that up that that is some of 610 00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:10,680 Speaker 6: the best time time in the league. 611 00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:11,320 Speaker 5: It is. 612 00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:12,680 Speaker 4: Yep, it is. 613 00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:13,840 Speaker 5: Matter of fact. 614 00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:18,000 Speaker 6: I had some of the best debates in conversations on them, 615 00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:21,920 Speaker 6: playing on them, playing ride back after victory. 616 00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:25,160 Speaker 5: Yes, and everybody saw stuff. 617 00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:32,520 Speaker 6: Now we still was doing it, okay, hey, you know 618 00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:35,280 Speaker 6: it was people was figuring out clever ways to pull 619 00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:35,960 Speaker 6: that one off. 620 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:36,240 Speaker 5: Boy. 621 00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:40,480 Speaker 3: Oh, we had the gatorade bottles full of the clear 622 00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:43,440 Speaker 3: drinks and we just told them it was the frost, 623 00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:46,920 Speaker 3: the frost flavored gatorade. So but they didn't really I 624 00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:49,360 Speaker 3: think back because My last year was two thousand and eight, 625 00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:52,600 Speaker 3: so back then I think the coaches knew, but they 626 00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:55,120 Speaker 3: just had to make the speech that it wasn't allowed. 627 00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:56,640 Speaker 3: But now you got I don't know if you heard 628 00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:59,360 Speaker 3: the story some punter, out of all the positions in 629 00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:03,080 Speaker 3: the world, punters messing it up for everybody in Jacksonville. 630 00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:06,360 Speaker 3: He got drunk and started filling up the flight attendant. 631 00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:09,520 Speaker 3: So I think the NFL is about to really cracked down. 632 00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:12,400 Speaker 5: Oh man, this is new. This is something that just 633 00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:12,920 Speaker 5: came up. 634 00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:13,240 Speaker 4: Yeah. 635 00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:15,400 Speaker 3: I just read about it maybe a week or two ago, 636 00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:18,000 Speaker 3: and I remember just shaking my head saying, it's one 637 00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:20,440 Speaker 3: thing that a defensive end messes it up for everybody, 638 00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:24,320 Speaker 3: but a freaking punter, like you know, punter getting too drunk. 639 00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:27,360 Speaker 4: And now they're really gonna crack down on it. 640 00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:31,440 Speaker 5: Now, I'm gonna tell you they get damn. 641 00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:33,760 Speaker 4: The kickers and punters. 642 00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:40,240 Speaker 5: Kickers and punters get damn. I'm not gonna say what. 643 00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:45,040 Speaker 6: I'm not gonna say who, but I've seen I've seen 644 00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:47,280 Speaker 6: instance whatever. 645 00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:47,600 Speaker 1: You know. 646 00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:50,920 Speaker 6: You know, the kickers and punters and long snappers carry 647 00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:53,720 Speaker 6: that big old bag supposed to have a whole bunch 648 00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:57,040 Speaker 6: of different types of footballs in it, the kicks and all. 649 00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:01,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I've seen I've seen it where that bag 650 00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:04,960 Speaker 5: was full of birds the whole practice. They over there 651 00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:07,720 Speaker 5: getting drunk, kicking. 652 00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:12,520 Speaker 6: Trick shots and making them at practice, at practice, you know. So, 653 00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:18,600 Speaker 6: and then on the planes, man, you'll be surprised at 654 00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:25,680 Speaker 6: how cool and how fun and how much those kickers 655 00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:26,680 Speaker 6: and punters get. 656 00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:31,799 Speaker 5: Down because they, to be honest, all you gotta do. 657 00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:35,880 Speaker 6: Is is a few times out of the game, kick the ball, 658 00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:38,719 Speaker 6: snap the ball. But the snapper dude gotta run down 659 00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:42,319 Speaker 6: to make tackle sometimes and sometimes a punterter. But other 660 00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:47,040 Speaker 6: than that, you don't really need to be and tip top, 661 00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:53,120 Speaker 6: tip top shape. You can get drunk every day if 662 00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:56,600 Speaker 6: you want to still be able to still be able 663 00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:57,480 Speaker 6: to do your job. 664 00:34:57,680 --> 00:35:01,440 Speaker 3: You know, I'm a team player, but for some reason, 665 00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:04,160 Speaker 3: maybe it's the hater of me. In my twelve years, 666 00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:06,560 Speaker 3: I don't think I ever got close to a punter 667 00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:09,560 Speaker 3: or a kicker. And it was mainly because when we 668 00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:11,920 Speaker 3: was out there grinding during two a days and the 669 00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:14,759 Speaker 3: hot sun, you look over to their field and they're 670 00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:17,399 Speaker 3: practicing their golf swing, and you know, kick a few 671 00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:20,440 Speaker 3: field goals. To me if you're a field goal kicker 672 00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:23,319 Speaker 3: if it's fifty and then you better be one hundred 673 00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:27,280 Speaker 3: percent automatic. Like, We've had a couple quote unquote win games, 674 00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:29,520 Speaker 3: and I wasn't high five of them. I was like, man, 675 00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:32,200 Speaker 3: you're supposed to do that, So I probably should have 676 00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:34,080 Speaker 3: done like you and got to know some of them 677 00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:35,399 Speaker 3: if they partying like that. 678 00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:38,239 Speaker 6: Oh yeah, man, I got to know a lot of 679 00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:39,520 Speaker 6: them throughout the years. 680 00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:44,520 Speaker 5: You know, hey, that's some of the best guys to 681 00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:45,040 Speaker 5: party with. 682 00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:48,160 Speaker 3: I'm gonna lie, I'm gonna take your word on that 683 00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:50,880 Speaker 3: all right here in Houston, some of the man, we 684 00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:53,239 Speaker 3: had some special seasons when you were here. Can't you 685 00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:55,920 Speaker 3: talk about that D line? What was the D line 686 00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:58,520 Speaker 3: group that you really felt like, this is the best 687 00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:01,000 Speaker 3: for guys to put their in the dirt together. 688 00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:04,280 Speaker 5: I'm gonna be honest. 689 00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:11,840 Speaker 6: That year a Wade came and we had a healthy Mario, 690 00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:19,880 Speaker 6: we would have shredded through the league. I mean it 691 00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:24,600 Speaker 6: was them first five games, it was like no contest. 692 00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:29,120 Speaker 6: All it took was for shap and Andre to make 693 00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:33,480 Speaker 6: that little long connection two times and get us up by. 694 00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:36,960 Speaker 5: Ten points and it was it was done. You know 695 00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:37,319 Speaker 5: what I mean? 696 00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:39,600 Speaker 6: It was done for us to get the pass. Rest 697 00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:42,160 Speaker 6: of the rest of the game, it was done. It 698 00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:49,239 Speaker 6: was me, JJ, Mario, Sean, Cody, and Nose and he rotated. 699 00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:50,160 Speaker 4: With ear Mitchell. 700 00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:55,799 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's rotated with Earth. I called him Earl. 701 00:36:55,560 --> 00:37:02,120 Speaker 6: The goat many a big girl girl, big girl. But yeah, 702 00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:07,040 Speaker 6: I'm telling you, I don't know. I don't He just 703 00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:08,760 Speaker 6: had wages, had that magic. 704 00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:09,440 Speaker 5: You know. 705 00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:12,919 Speaker 6: How I felt about it was is that the one 706 00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:16,400 Speaker 6: thing I knew he did that I had not experienced 707 00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:20,640 Speaker 6: before then is he would kind of see the attributes 708 00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:23,799 Speaker 6: that we all had and then make the defense fit 709 00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:24,480 Speaker 6: around it. 710 00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:26,200 Speaker 5: He didn't make. 711 00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:30,200 Speaker 6: Players have to fit into a certain box, you know, 712 00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:32,399 Speaker 6: to play the defense, and it might take them out 713 00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:33,640 Speaker 6: of the way they play the game. 714 00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:34,680 Speaker 4: You know. 715 00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:37,760 Speaker 6: So when he wanted Mario to stand up, which Mario 716 00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:40,799 Speaker 6: never stood up before, he let Mario do it in 717 00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:46,880 Speaker 6: a unique way. You know, when JJ first started off rushing, 718 00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:50,080 Speaker 6: he was when you put him at that five technique, 719 00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:52,600 Speaker 6: even in the run, you know, he was dangerous. So 720 00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:57,200 Speaker 6: Wade changed the defense up a little bit to to 721 00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:00,880 Speaker 6: form a four hour into a five, you know, to 722 00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:06,160 Speaker 6: give JJ that pass rush ability on rundowns and pass downs, 723 00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:12,480 Speaker 6: you know, so that type of freedom and ways defense 724 00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:14,880 Speaker 6: just it just let us off the change. 725 00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:19,680 Speaker 3: I can't believe. I don't remember. I didn't realize so 726 00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:23,239 Speaker 3: at one point, you, JJ, and Mario, we're all on. 727 00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:25,280 Speaker 4: The yeah, in the same meeting room. 728 00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:25,960 Speaker 5: Mm hmm. 729 00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:27,000 Speaker 4: I did not. 730 00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:30,279 Speaker 3: Realize that how many years were y'all together, the three 731 00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:32,200 Speaker 3: of y'all together, that it was. 732 00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:37,759 Speaker 5: That one year because Mario got hurt game five, week 733 00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:41,480 Speaker 5: five and after that he went to Buffalo. 734 00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:43,600 Speaker 4: That's right, that's right. 735 00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:46,120 Speaker 3: And the deal that Buffalo gave him he could look 736 00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:49,080 Speaker 3: similar to what Graves told you, Mario could he couldn't 737 00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:51,880 Speaker 3: turn that deal down. That was one of the first 738 00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:54,480 Speaker 3: one hundred million dollar deals going to a d lineman 739 00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:57,800 Speaker 3: you know at that time. But man, could you imagine 740 00:38:57,840 --> 00:38:59,640 Speaker 3: if y'all had a chance to play two three years 741 00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:01,799 Speaker 3: to get growing together with you leaders. 742 00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:11,000 Speaker 5: With Mark Me, Mario and JJ and Wade's defense. 743 00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:15,160 Speaker 4: That'd have been a dynasty on that side. 744 00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:15,439 Speaker 5: Of the ball. 745 00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:22,439 Speaker 6: Because I think starting off that year, Mario first five games, 746 00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:24,799 Speaker 6: to think he had first four games, think he had 747 00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:25,560 Speaker 6: five sacks. 748 00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:27,439 Speaker 5: To the fifth game he got hurt and he didn't 749 00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:30,120 Speaker 5: have no sack. JJ had like four. 750 00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:33,399 Speaker 6: I had like twenty half three, you know, just kind 751 00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:36,319 Speaker 6: of starting the season off, and it was almost like 752 00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:40,239 Speaker 6: just a free fall. It's like it was almost like 753 00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:41,839 Speaker 6: who's gonna be the first one to get there? 754 00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:45,919 Speaker 5: Right if a team go to pass? It was done 755 00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:47,760 Speaker 5: that year, you know, it was done. 756 00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:49,839 Speaker 4: That's awesome. That's awesome right there. 757 00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:54,319 Speaker 3: You know, I played obviously with Mario his rookie year, 758 00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:56,640 Speaker 3: so I was there from six to eight. I always 759 00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:59,960 Speaker 3: felt like the fans did you get the sense of 760 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,560 Speaker 3: he didn't really give him his credit or or people 761 00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:05,120 Speaker 3: around Houston didn't really appreciate him as much as they 762 00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:06,080 Speaker 3: could ever should have. 763 00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:09,400 Speaker 5: I think that's the reason why he left, you know. 764 00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:14,400 Speaker 6: To me, when I got there, Mario became me and 765 00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:18,920 Speaker 6: Mario like this family, like this, he's still my brother 766 00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:20,239 Speaker 6: for this day. 767 00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:23,920 Speaker 5: And I was sitting I would talk to him. 768 00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:26,440 Speaker 6: He kind of expressed him kind of how he felt 769 00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:30,400 Speaker 6: about how they treated him earlier on, you know, in 770 00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:35,080 Speaker 6: Houston and Michael Irvin's comments, you know, to the media 771 00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:39,160 Speaker 6: and people kind of piggybacking off of that and never 772 00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:42,239 Speaker 6: giving him a chance to heal, and because he was 773 00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:43,520 Speaker 6: a first round pick. 774 00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:52,120 Speaker 5: Over you know, which everybody in Houston wanted, you know, it. 775 00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:54,960 Speaker 6: Just it just made it to where, you know, they 776 00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:57,480 Speaker 6: kind of had that bad taste name oft and I 777 00:40:57,560 --> 00:41:00,520 Speaker 6: think right that year I came to the year he 778 00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:03,319 Speaker 6: first went to the Pro Bowl. Right before I got there, 779 00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:06,640 Speaker 6: he went to the Pro Bowl. And then at that 780 00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:11,520 Speaker 6: next year, you know, it was even more expectation. It 781 00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:14,759 Speaker 6: was like, finally he is paid off this first round 782 00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:17,960 Speaker 6: draft pick. And then they put even more expectations on 783 00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:19,640 Speaker 6: them that next day and we had like. 784 00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:21,320 Speaker 5: A down year. 785 00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:25,359 Speaker 6: But then when Wade came, I've seen Mario kind of 786 00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:30,400 Speaker 6: open up, you know, and blossom, and he started to 787 00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:34,960 Speaker 6: gain that confidence in that and that fearlessness and that aggression. 788 00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:38,000 Speaker 5: You know that you know, being free, you know you 789 00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:38,880 Speaker 5: can be free. 790 00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:42,480 Speaker 6: You ain't gotta worry about the fans and the people 791 00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:45,319 Speaker 6: outside of football. You know, it started to come out 792 00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:45,799 Speaker 6: that year. 793 00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:50,560 Speaker 2: Man, that was awesome stuff in d Clue and Antonio Smith, 794 00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:53,239 Speaker 2: I love ding just talking about that twenty eleven defense 795 00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:56,799 Speaker 2: and what they felt like at the time they had 796 00:41:56,880 --> 00:41:59,080 Speaker 2: before Mario Williams got hurt. 797 00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:00,799 Speaker 1: And then when he came back in twenty sixteen, Man, 798 00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:02,120 Speaker 1: he was really fun to be around. That year. 799 00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:04,839 Speaker 2: That was my first year near and around him on 800 00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:08,480 Speaker 2: the sidelines. He was He was tremendous that year and 801 00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:10,520 Speaker 2: I wish it could have had more years down in 802 00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:12,239 Speaker 2: the sideline with him. But it's been good to know 803 00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:16,680 Speaker 2: Ninja and appreciate him stopping by in Adi Klu doing 804 00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:20,000 Speaker 2: a great, great job with Ninja on that interview and 805 00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:21,680 Speaker 2: all the interviews we get from Indie Clue. 806 00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:23,279 Speaker 1: All right on Friday, let's close it down. 807 00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:26,280 Speaker 2: A lot of news happening throughout the league and otherwise 808 00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:28,000 Speaker 2: let's hit that next on Texantal Access. 809 00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:29,880 Speaker 1: What is happening everybody? Welcome back to this. 810 00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:35,280 Speaker 2: Final segment of Texans All Access from Undead Texans Radio Studio. 811 00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:38,480 Speaker 2: I'm your host, John Harris, football analyst, sideline reporter for 812 00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:42,040 Speaker 2: your Houston Texans. And a reminder, this All Access episode, 813 00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:45,520 Speaker 2: presented by Mattress Firm, shot the July fourth sale and 814 00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:50,120 Speaker 2: saved five hundred dollars on Temper Breeze mattresses plus a 815 00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:52,799 Speaker 2: three hundred dollars instant gift for pillows and more. 816 00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:53,920 Speaker 1: Restrictions apply. 817 00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:59,480 Speaker 2: Mattress Firm, the official sleep partner of your Houston Texans. Now, 818 00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:01,640 Speaker 2: yesterday we were talking, I think it was yesterday maybe 819 00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:06,239 Speaker 2: the day before the Jacksonville Jaguars had gotten a a 820 00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:11,440 Speaker 2: city approval. The city of Jacksonville approved about one point 821 00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:14,200 Speaker 2: four somewhere there one point two one point four billion 822 00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:20,240 Speaker 2: dollars for renovations to TIAA Bank Stadium. 823 00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:22,239 Speaker 1: I think that's what they call now EverBank Stadium. I 824 00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:23,000 Speaker 1: think maybe. I don't know. 825 00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:25,400 Speaker 2: There's been so many iterations of it, but there were 826 00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:27,560 Speaker 2: a lot of talk about the Jaguars moving to London 827 00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:31,160 Speaker 2: and all these different things, and the obviously the Jags 828 00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:33,960 Speaker 2: had struggled up until twenty twenty two. They ended up 829 00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:36,799 Speaker 2: having this rousing end of the season. Duval County was 830 00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:39,359 Speaker 2: hot again. They win a playoff game at home after 831 00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:41,479 Speaker 2: coming back from like twenty seven to twenty eight down, 832 00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:44,200 Speaker 2: and they get the division round. They lose to the Chiefs, 833 00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:47,560 Speaker 2: but man also well met him. They got this former 834 00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:50,280 Speaker 2: number one overall quarterback who's hitting Trevor Lawrence. 835 00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:52,640 Speaker 1: What are they gonna do? Man, It's gonna be awesome. 836 00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:55,160 Speaker 2: They struggled down to stretch I mentioned yesterday Shod Cohn 837 00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:59,760 Speaker 2: called the finish last year one in five a organized 838 00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:05,120 Speaker 2: say rational disaster, and it was and shot takes uh, 839 00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:08,000 Speaker 2: he takes his level of responsibility in that being the 840 00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:10,880 Speaker 2: owner of that squad. Well, Jacksonville. I'm bringing all this 841 00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:15,839 Speaker 2: up for reason. Jacksonville ends up signing Josh Allen their 842 00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:18,160 Speaker 2: star defensive player. They end up signing Trevor Lawrence, their 843 00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:23,480 Speaker 2: star quarterback, and then the mayor, Donna Degan, presented a 844 00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:27,120 Speaker 2: plan a couple of days later to the city which 845 00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:32,279 Speaker 2: was then approved for renovations in Jacksonville to keep the 846 00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:35,480 Speaker 2: Jaguars in Jacksonville for I think the next thirty years. 847 00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:37,839 Speaker 2: And it's gonna look sweet when that thing's done. One 848 00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:40,000 Speaker 2: point two to one point four billion dollars. Now bring 849 00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:47,160 Speaker 2: it up because there's talk about the Chiefs moving from 850 00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:49,880 Speaker 2: Kansas City, Missouri to Kansas City, Kansas. 851 00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:50,160 Speaker 4: Well. 852 00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:54,759 Speaker 1: On Thursday, Missouri Governor Mike Parson said he expects the 853 00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:57,120 Speaker 1: state to put together an aid plan by the end 854 00:44:57,120 --> 00:44:58,759 Speaker 1: of the year to try to keep the Chiefs and 855 00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:02,520 Speaker 1: Royals from be being lured across state lines to new 856 00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:07,560 Speaker 1: stadiums in Kansas. Missouri's renewed efforts come after Kansas approved 857 00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:09,239 Speaker 1: The state of Kansas approved a plan last week the 858 00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:12,640 Speaker 1: finance up to seventy percent of the cost of new 859 00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:17,040 Speaker 1: stadiums for both the Chiefs and the Royals. 860 00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:21,360 Speaker 2: Parson said on Thursday, We're gonna make sure that we 861 00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:23,440 Speaker 2: put the best business deal we can on the line 862 00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:26,080 Speaker 2: for the Chiefs and for the Royals. He said, I 863 00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:29,600 Speaker 2: can't blame Kansas for trying. If I was probably sitting there, 864 00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:30,960 Speaker 2: I'd be doing the same thing. But at the end 865 00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:35,480 Speaker 2: of the day, we're gonna be competitive. So different things 866 00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:41,440 Speaker 2: trigger stadium improvements, renovations, builds, whatever the case might be. 867 00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:45,480 Speaker 1: In Jacksonville, the people of Jacksonville needed to see. 868 00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:51,680 Speaker 2: That the Jaguars worriedly git player a legit NFL competitive 869 00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:54,319 Speaker 2: franchise year in and year out. Well, how do you 870 00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:57,120 Speaker 2: approve that? Well, you're growing develop one of the better 871 00:45:57,120 --> 00:45:59,960 Speaker 2: pass rushers in the league, and Josh Allen you draft. 872 00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:03,200 Speaker 2: You have the fortunate opportunity to draft Trevor Lawrence and 873 00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:05,640 Speaker 2: he turns into a really solid player, give him a 874 00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:08,760 Speaker 2: lot of money, you ensure the future of Jacksonville. Present 875 00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:13,000 Speaker 2: the plan for the house that Trevor built, because that's 876 00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:13,879 Speaker 2: essentially what it is. 877 00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:17,240 Speaker 1: So in Kansas City, it was a little different. 878 00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:21,080 Speaker 2: Missouri waited for Kansas City, the state of Kansas to 879 00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:21,880 Speaker 2: make a play. 880 00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:24,920 Speaker 1: When they did Missouri's like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoah, woah, 881 00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:26,719 Speaker 1: you're not taking us. They got threatened. 882 00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:29,520 Speaker 2: Now Missouri's back on board, So we'll see what ends 883 00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:33,279 Speaker 2: up getting done in Kansas City. Whether it's Kansas City, 884 00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:36,360 Speaker 2: Kansas or Kansas City, Missouri, whichever side of the border 885 00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:38,880 Speaker 2: you're on, everybody gets all confused because they always say, oh, 886 00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:40,600 Speaker 2: you're going to Kansas City, Kansas play. No, no, no, it's 887 00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:45,400 Speaker 2: Kansas City, Missouri, where the Chiefs and the Broyles both play. 888 00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:49,000 Speaker 2: But on the other side of the border, it's Kansasity, Kansas, 889 00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:51,640 Speaker 2: where the state of Kansas is now looking to pull 890 00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:53,359 Speaker 2: the Chiefs and Royals over there. 891 00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:55,680 Speaker 1: So both those teams are sitting in a good position. 892 00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:59,520 Speaker 1: Why well, because the Chiefs are winning championships. They're one 893 00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:01,800 Speaker 1: of the most well run organizations in the league. 894 00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:06,359 Speaker 2: And now there is a state that is saying, hey, 895 00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:09,160 Speaker 2: come to our side of the border, whereas the state 896 00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:11,839 Speaker 2: there right now saying no, no, no, no, don't worry, we'll 897 00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:13,760 Speaker 2: take care of you Stan on our side of the border. 898 00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:19,640 Speaker 2: Interesting stadium build and renovation dynamics happening in the NFL. 899 00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:21,560 Speaker 2: That's just the NFL, but all over the place Yeah, 900 00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:23,640 Speaker 2: Las Vegas trying to build a stadium for the A's 901 00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:25,200 Speaker 2: and baseball and all this stuff. 902 00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:25,400 Speaker 1: That goes on. 903 00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:28,759 Speaker 2: It's interesting how sports and politics seem to mix. 904 00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:31,640 Speaker 1: Speaking of politics, we are talking about it. Ah. 905 00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:35,160 Speaker 2: We'll see you on Monday, everybody, Mark will be back. 906 00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:38,800 Speaker 2: A big thanks to Indie Kolu, to our guy Ninja Smith, 907 00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:42,200 Speaker 2: he was absolutely awesome. Antonio Smith wish he were still 908 00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:44,440 Speaker 2: in Houston, but he makes his trips down here every 909 00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:47,600 Speaker 2: now and again. But great stuff from those two gentlemen. 910 00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:51,120 Speaker 2: Really appreciate it. To all you've listened all week and tonight, 911 00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:53,080 Speaker 2: thank you so much. We will see you on Monday, 912 00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:55,760 Speaker 2: as I said, and as always, go Texans