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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.

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Speaker 2: Cowboys blowing out of.

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Speaker 3: The backfield ex flowing down the sidelines.

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Speaker 4: This he is hanging with the Boys. Now your hosts.

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Speaker 5: Nate Newton, Kurt Daniels, Jesse Holly, and Shannon Gross sharing.

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Speaker 2: You look alive head Tostitos Championship Plaza outside Sports Center

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Speaker 2: at the Star in Frisco, Texas, where started all kind

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Speaker 2: of ugly this morning, but uh man, it's beautiful.

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Speaker 6: Seventy nine degrees, the highest eighty three, the low is

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Speaker 6: sixty four.

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Speaker 7: You put that shirt on and everything brightened up. In

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Speaker 7: the back of Christy Bee keeping his live and local.

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Speaker 7: That is Shannon Gross, just three top super Bowl champion,

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Speaker 7: Nate Newton, our boy too pumped. Daniels is not here today.

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Speaker 7: He's getting his butt checked.

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Speaker 4: Always good.

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Speaker 8: I hope it's okay.

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Speaker 9: Kurt.

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Speaker 4: I am always salt and pepper poppy.

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Speaker 7: But I've been thinking about getting a little you know, kole,

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Speaker 7: men's take out some of these grades on child don't

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Speaker 7: do it, but something pepper poppy. Together, we make Hang

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Speaker 7: with the Boys the sports talk equivalent of brow people.

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Speaker 7: I hope I don't get in trouble when we speak.

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Speaker 10: I'm sorry, I'm sorry, sorry, I'm sorry.

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Speaker 4: Wing stop here is.

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Speaker 10: It's messed up the show? A uh don't they say?

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Speaker 9: And now this please, I hope I don't get in

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Speaker 9: trouble thet they say, Asian people have smaller hands.

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Speaker 10: So when Kurt go get checked, he.

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Speaker 7: Should he should be all right, Yeah, you should be

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Speaker 7: all right. He don't go see the brothers and the doctor.

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Speaker 7: See you don't want to go see You don't want

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Speaker 7: to go see that. You don't want to have these

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Speaker 7: you don't want to have these hands filling the round

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Speaker 7: up there making sure you're good at that.

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Speaker 6: First question you should ask your proctologies is did you

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Speaker 6: play office defensive line?

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Speaker 10: Did you play wide?

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Speaker 4: Receive more years and no figures not being it come

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Speaker 4: up and around.

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Speaker 9: Imagine Roger Roger checking over, Roger checking what Michael.

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Speaker 10: Mike Irvan touched you to it? That's funny, he says that. Wow, yeah,

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Speaker 10: we is.

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Speaker 8: He off to a great start, off to a great

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Speaker 8: start as.

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Speaker 4: Always, How you guys doing good?

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Speaker 11: Right?

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Speaker 10: Right week?

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Speaker 4: Good week?

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Speaker 8: How was your how was your break last week?

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Speaker 7: Amazing show necessary? He'm sorry to call you no it's

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Speaker 7: all good. That's all good.

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Speaker 4: Love hearing from you.

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Speaker 8: How was your how's your week?

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Speaker 10: Yeah, one of the few times I called just back

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Speaker 10: to back.

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Speaker 9: He he ignored me the first day, but he called

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Speaker 9: me back to late that night and I got into

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Speaker 9: him the next day.

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Speaker 10: You know, he cursed us.

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Speaker 9: I'm not saying it's a curse, but he called something

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Speaker 9: out a couple of weeks ago. And I'm gonna let

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Speaker 9: just you finish. You tell him, You tell him it's

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Speaker 9: a guy that plays for the University of Tennessee. I

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Speaker 9: hope I got this right. Yeah, he hurt his knee

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Speaker 9: a year ago and missed all of last year. What

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Speaker 9: is his name, Jesse Gerard McCoy.

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Speaker 2: You know what.

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Speaker 9: I got a call yesterday they said, hey, Jeron McCoy,

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Speaker 9: did it is pro Day? And I'm like, oh, I'm thinking, okay, man,

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Speaker 9: he probably hurt himself. I'm thinking, you know that that's

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Speaker 9: bad to think. I'm like, well, he probably heard hisself.

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Speaker 10: And the dude saying, hey man, he ran a four

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Speaker 10: to three.

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Speaker 4: Now you know what that means, right?

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Speaker 10: What you know the cowboy in the draft to du right, and.

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Speaker 7: If you want to know more about that boy, Kurt.

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Speaker 7: He's one of the people that's getting that dives into

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Speaker 7: this at the start. All the draft guideline, the twenty

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Speaker 7: twenty six draft got am I saying that, right, it's

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Speaker 7: Kurt a part of this.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, out of that. So yeah, so go pick

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Speaker 4: this up.

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Speaker 7: You can get it online, you get it at your

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Speaker 7: local stores. I don't know if that's true or not,

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Speaker 7: but I'm sure you can get the local stores.

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Speaker 10: Made that shot, but pro shot, you can order it.

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Speaker 9: That guy, that guy at the bottom, they say he

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Speaker 9: got short arms, but it don't look like it to me.

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Speaker 4: Which one? We'll pick that up?

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Speaker 9: Kurt.

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Speaker 4: Make sure all the spelling was right in this our

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Speaker 4: boy he did, all the pictures match. Yeah, because you

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Speaker 4: don't want to mix up black guys. We all don't

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Speaker 4: want to like, you're not.

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Speaker 8: Off to a great start.

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Speaker 4: That a personal thing. This is kind of sometimes we

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Speaker 4: always bring the personal stuff to the public. Ways. Have

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Speaker 4: you guys called Nate lately called Nate? Do we need

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Speaker 4: to you need to machine need to hear this voicemail?

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Speaker 7: I can I can smell give me a second epic

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Speaker 7: and it only could be done by Nate. First of all,

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Speaker 7: the fact that Nate still leaves a personal voice message

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Speaker 7: on the voice smail normally everyone just don't don't we

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Speaker 7: go like, you know, you get the you get the

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Speaker 7: generic computer. You know number you have called? No no no,

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Speaker 7: no no no it's not available. Please leave no no,

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Speaker 7: no no no. Not not for Nathaniel Nutan.

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Speaker 4: He leaves a personal let me guess I get I bet.

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Speaker 6: He says something to the effect of, you've reached the

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Speaker 6: voicemail of Nathaniel Newton.

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Speaker 4: Whatever you think, whatever you think, it is not you're

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Speaker 4: not prepared for.

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Speaker 10: You're not.

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Speaker 4: And then on his personal line, he tells you that

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Speaker 4: they will call you back. That's the what I love

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Speaker 4: the most. He put They put him and the wife

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Speaker 4: you on there, they gonna call you back.

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Speaker 8: Okay, we gotta hear this.

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Speaker 4: It's the greatest voicemail you've ever heard.

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Speaker 8: Are you ready?

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Speaker 12: Chris?

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Speaker 7: In twenty twenty six, it's I called him message. I

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Speaker 7: was like, this dude still has he is the.

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Speaker 8: Don't answer.

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Speaker 10: No, I'm not going.

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Speaker 4: I'm telling you we're sorry.

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Speaker 1: We are unable.

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Speaker 8: Oh me in a second.

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Speaker 4: On back there?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, but what Chris gets back to what we'll jump

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Speaker 7: back in there. But it's I called him yesterday. I

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Speaker 7: called him back because I always have. I always tell

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Speaker 7: Nate because when you speak to Nate one, it's always

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Speaker 7: a privilege when he calls you. But there's all there's

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Speaker 7: there's there's one or two things are happening. Nate's gonna

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Speaker 7: call you and say exactly what he wants to say,

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Speaker 7: doesn't care about your tork hang up, or you're gonna

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Speaker 7: talk for a little while. And so my, uh, my

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Speaker 7: mode of operation when I talk to Nate is if

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Speaker 7: I don't have at least twenty minutes to give to.

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Speaker 10: Him number Chris Christy as Chris, he can't call me.

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Speaker 4: What are you doing back there, Chris?

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Speaker 10: I thought I just called him.

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Speaker 4: We'll get It's on the group text. We'll get it. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I've tried to call it twice. It's the number I have.

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Speaker 9: You change your number, call me, Jess. I'm about to

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Speaker 9: call him, man, I hope my number change on AI.

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Speaker 10: There. It is Jesse, Holly, Jesse it Holly.

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Speaker 8: Hello, this is Nate News.

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Speaker 9: Y'all know what I'm doing this time of the year.

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Speaker 8: I could be up from Washington.

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Speaker 10: In the corner to your left hand side or floida

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Speaker 10: down to your right hand side.

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Speaker 9: I'm on the road, baby, I'm moving.

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Speaker 11: I may knock on your door, and I may knock

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Speaker 11: that you leave your name and number and a brief message,

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Speaker 11: and me and Michelle will.

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Speaker 13: Get back with you.

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Speaker 4: I'm telling you we love you, but I'm.

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Speaker 11: Road hogging, baby.

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Speaker 10: Hey, name and number, May God bless you. Tod Tomad.

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Speaker 8: Road hall, road name, road Hall, road Hall.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, I need to create a song for that.

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Speaker 7: I said, it's got to be the great. I was like,

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Speaker 7: I was so shocked. I was going out to hang

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Speaker 7: up till I heard his voice. I was like, let

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Speaker 7: me see what this guy got to say. That's You're amazing, Bro,

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Speaker 7: You're amazing.

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Speaker 8: I've been having fun.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, road hog, road hall, road hall for to call

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Speaker 4: the boys up front row? Howks?

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Speaker 14: I love it?

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Speaker 8: Where have you been the last two weeks?

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Speaker 9: Uh, I'm gonna tell you what I did the other day.

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Speaker 9: I just felt I had to see this dude in

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Speaker 9: North Carolina. So I jumped in the car and I

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Speaker 9: got the Sweet Home Alabama. It looks a sweet home Alabama.

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Speaker 9: Then next science said Tuscy Loose. I got halfway, I

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Speaker 9: turned around and came down. Why I want to come

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Speaker 9: back home? You feel feel I liked it for a minute.

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Speaker 10: I liked it for like eight hours, and then the

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Speaker 10: next ten I'm like, no, I don't like him that much.

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Speaker 4: That's crazy.

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Speaker 10: You need to go see our guy up in DC

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Speaker 10: that wants to see you.

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Speaker 8: Remember, Oh yeah, Barrington.

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Speaker 9: Remember Okay, after this week here, after next week, I

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Speaker 9: got to get out a serious start because we got

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Speaker 9: some church things or either got to help my sister

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Speaker 9: in law or move one of the other I gotta do.

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Speaker 7: So you help people move, that's a good man. I

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Speaker 7: don't ever call me the Nope, that's one of my

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Speaker 7: least I will send you.

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Speaker 9: Know, but that's that's the debate money, whether it's money

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Speaker 9: the truck. I will send you money. Yeah, I'm not

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Speaker 9: helping you move. I don't ever don't ever call me

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Speaker 9: to ask you to move, because the answer is no.

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Speaker 9: But if you say, hey, I need a couple doll

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Speaker 9: for a mover, I got you.

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Speaker 8: I remember that.

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Speaker 4: Don't call me.

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Speaker 9: I said to my wife and said, we got to

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Speaker 9: make a decision to either help her move or let's

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Speaker 9: give her a little jack, you know.

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Speaker 10: So yeah, I got he's up that last half.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think I have PTSD for moving

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Speaker 6: because when I was fourteen, I counted we had moved

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Speaker 6: sixteen times. Man, all in the same little Yeah, pretty

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Speaker 6: much in the same little mama circuit.

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Speaker 10: Well, bring that stuff over, you can walk over to

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Speaker 10: the next trailer park.

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Speaker 6: Didn't even pack pack, we just put it on at

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Speaker 6: it on a little flat man up.

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Speaker 11: Wow.

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Speaker 9: But you know what, man, but you've you've you've grown bro.

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Speaker 9: I mean, what's the last time you move? It's been forever. Now,

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Speaker 9: been in the same apartment a while.

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Speaker 10: Now there's a house. I got a house that You've

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Speaker 10: been in the same house for a while. He's still

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Speaker 10: you still to say, Lord, this a faver whole.

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Speaker 4: No, maybe this was gonna be.

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Speaker 4: Let me be clear with that now.

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Speaker 7: So this is going to be one of those up moments,

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Speaker 7: There's been some talks that he is working with Dak Prescott.

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Speaker 4: Buckle up?

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Speaker 11: You know.

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Speaker 9: And one thing I love about Jess and a few

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Speaker 10: Man, this is what this man is saying.

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Speaker 9: I'm gonna bleed this man. And you know, I'm not

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Speaker 7: I'm just telling you what I what came out of

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Speaker 7: it's not something that they plan to play on.

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Speaker 10: The thing will happen is we'll get the training camp.

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Speaker 9: Let's say, uh, this kid signs the tag so he

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Speaker 9: that happened a year ago. Do you want that for

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Speaker 14: Absolutely not, because it's going to be a distraction. Yeah,

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Speaker 14: So I'm just I believe this that, Uh, do you

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Speaker 4: Right?

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Speaker 9: If you don't want this kid, get something and move on.

446
00:21:57,320 --> 00:22:00,640
Speaker 9: If you want this kid, let's don't push to the hill.

447
00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:05,679
Speaker 9: We don't have to, but we're not the powers up above.

448
00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:08,479
Speaker 9: But if you want him, let's to do something. If

449
00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:10,760
Speaker 9: you don't want him, get something and move on.

450
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Speaker 7: And see what you're saying, Nate, two things can be true.

451
00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:18,639
Speaker 7: Do you want him, sure? Do you want him at

452
00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:22,600
Speaker 7: your price? That's the difference is we want them, but

453
00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:25,240
Speaker 7: we only want him at our price. And you know

454
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Speaker 7: I did it earlier today and we talked about George

455
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Speaker 7: Pickens because it was a topic that came on TV

456
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Speaker 7: earlier this morning.

457
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Speaker 4: Is he a necessity or is he a luxury?

458
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Speaker 7: And when you think about it, like when you just

459
00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:41,200
Speaker 7: think about it, And this is not saying that anyone

460
00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:46,359
Speaker 7: does not want George Pickens. He's absolutely a luxury to have.

461
00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:51,080
Speaker 7: This team has been successful without George Pickens record wise,

462
00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:56,400
Speaker 7: league wise, like numbers offensively, they did it with Ceedee Lamb,

463
00:22:56,440 --> 00:23:00,480
Speaker 7: Brandon Cooks and Jaylen Tobert as your three receivers and

464
00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:02,320
Speaker 7: they had a number on offense in the league. You

465
00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:06,480
Speaker 7: know what I'm saying, Like they've done it before where

466
00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:09,159
Speaker 7: Ceedee Lamb has been more than enough for this offense

467
00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:13,080
Speaker 7: to be successful. Again, I'm not saying that I do

468
00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:16,399
Speaker 7: not want George Pickens. I am saying that he is

469
00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:19,560
Speaker 7: a luxury to have, and I think the Cowboys viewed

470
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Speaker 7: as that as well. I've long said this. When the

471
00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:27,480
Speaker 7: Cowboys made the trade with Pittsburgh for George Pickens, they

472
00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:31,760
Speaker 7: didn't have a contingency plan. They didn't have a plan

473
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Speaker 7: for what if he blows up in a good way,

474
00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:38,160
Speaker 7: like a man spoken at a gas station, I'm about

475
00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:41,639
Speaker 7: to blow up. But they didn't have a contingency plan

476
00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:45,600
Speaker 7: for that. They hoped that he would be a missing

477
00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:47,680
Speaker 7: piece to get this thing over the hump. But you

478
00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:51,120
Speaker 7: finished seven nine to one. So you had this prolific

479
00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:58,800
Speaker 7: season fourteen hundred yards, ninety three catches, nine touchdowns, but

480
00:23:58,920 --> 00:23:59,639
Speaker 7: she was seven nine to one.

481
00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:03,040
Speaker 4: You didn't the playoffs. So something that's.

482
00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:07,080
Speaker 7: Really that happened really good didn't result in the things

483
00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:09,840
Speaker 7: that you wanted it to because of the lack of

484
00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:14,399
Speaker 7: defense that you didn't have. And so there have to

485
00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:18,080
Speaker 7: be a focus really that's just poured into the defense.

486
00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:22,240
Speaker 7: And you you want George Pickens, I don't necessarily like

487
00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:28,800
Speaker 7: the analogy that I used was eating for us is needed,

488
00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:33,280
Speaker 7: Like you need to eat, Okay, the luxury is it

489
00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:34,440
Speaker 7: that we get to eat wagoo.

490
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Speaker 4: H that's the luxury we need to eat. You need

491
00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:39,160
Speaker 4: to eat to live.

492
00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:43,320
Speaker 7: The luxury is that I don't want ground beef today.

493
00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:47,040
Speaker 7: I want wagoo and I can afford it. I have

494
00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:50,159
Speaker 7: the I have the luxury to go and get it.

495
00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:55,960
Speaker 7: So that's what you have with George Pickens. It's you

496
00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:59,520
Speaker 7: need wide receivers. But if you want George Pickens.

497
00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:02,719
Speaker 9: In that group, and the thing is, and the thing

498
00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:08,240
Speaker 9: is I see from an offensive line standpoint. The advantage

499
00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:14,480
Speaker 9: of having George pickins. I do because if we keep George,

500
00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:20,359
Speaker 9: he comes in and plays this year. Now we can

501
00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:24,119
Speaker 9: stay as eels at the tackles. We can stay as

502
00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:29,760
Speaker 9: els with the tight end helping the tackles. If George leave,

503
00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:32,840
Speaker 9: people understand me now, it's gonna happen.

504
00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:37,120
Speaker 10: If George leaves, that elevates.

505
00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:39,679
Speaker 9: If you don't replace him, whether a more than capable person,

506
00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:43,280
Speaker 9: that elevates you number two, you're number three to number two,

507
00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:46,760
Speaker 9: that brings your tight end back into play, That takes

508
00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:49,840
Speaker 9: the tight end from sixty percent of helping one of

509
00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:53,440
Speaker 9: the tackles to these tackles. Gotta stand tall in the

510
00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:56,679
Speaker 9: NFC East and then listen, go out there and look

511
00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:59,920
Speaker 9: at the NFC East. It ain't playing, it's getting better.

512
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:02,480
Speaker 9: Or by the moment, we won't be able to stand

513
00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:05,680
Speaker 9: up in this great quarterback that is elevated it seven

514
00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:09,280
Speaker 9: to the top ten, maybe elevating itself somewhere else. If

515
00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:14,159
Speaker 9: George leaves and we cannot replace that, I'm not I'm

516
00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:15,240
Speaker 9: not the battle, y'all.

517
00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:15,720
Speaker 4: That's fair.

518
00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:18,919
Speaker 9: I'm not fit the battle, y'all. Should we pay George

519
00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:22,160
Speaker 9: or should we not pay George? I'm telling y'all, if

520
00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:26,600
Speaker 9: we don't keep George and we don't get somebody that's them,

521
00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:31,760
Speaker 9: because it'll be back CD and them, the stress gonna come.

522
00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:35,240
Speaker 9: And all the great escapes that Dak was making, well

523
00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:37,639
Speaker 9: he had to escape just one guy. He's gonna be

524
00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:40,000
Speaker 9: escaping two or three guys and it ain't gonna have

525
00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:40,600
Speaker 9: him all year.

526
00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:45,640
Speaker 5: That's fair, that's fair, that's fair, and I'm and I'm

527
00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:48,920
Speaker 5: good with. Here's where I'm at with this team and

528
00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:53,040
Speaker 5: the way that business as usual because they're doing some

529
00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:53,760
Speaker 5: things different.

530
00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:58,000
Speaker 8: This is one thing. Please don't, as a fan do

531
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Speaker 8: this different.

532
00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:01,600
Speaker 6: Fine, if you let him walk, I would love to

533
00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:03,360
Speaker 6: see him in CD for the next couple of years

534
00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:05,240
Speaker 6: and see what they can do with with with the

535
00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:10,080
Speaker 6: Dack in his prime, a decent too good offensive line,

536
00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:14,320
Speaker 6: a decent to good running back, and watch this offense

537
00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:16,239
Speaker 6: as is for the next two to three to four

538
00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:16,960
Speaker 6: or five years.

539
00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:19,919
Speaker 8: Whatever that is. If you want to use that collater

540
00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:22,320
Speaker 8: on that money to go pay some defensive guys, I'm

541
00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:23,239
Speaker 8: good with that too.

542
00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:27,320
Speaker 6: Just don't wait, don't get me to training camp and

543
00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:30,200
Speaker 6: may and not have this dude in there working with

544
00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:33,560
Speaker 6: the offense, wasting the first four weeks of the season,

545
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:36,560
Speaker 6: getting in sync, learning the playbook, doing all this that, like,

546
00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:39,120
Speaker 6: like Nate said, work.

547
00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:41,520
Speaker 8: What bothers me is we haven't talked yet.

548
00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:44,840
Speaker 6: Haven't we learned our lesson with that we need if

549
00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:48,359
Speaker 6: we want this guy, we want him in camp. We

550
00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:51,840
Speaker 6: don't need him holding out and then learning as we go.

551
00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:54,680
Speaker 6: The first we saw what burning the first four weeks

552
00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:57,399
Speaker 6: of the season can do. Right, Let's don't do that.

553
00:27:57,640 --> 00:27:59,920
Speaker 6: Sign him or let him walk, and then at least

554
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:01,880
Speaker 6: you know what you have going forward. And I'm good

555
00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:05,000
Speaker 6: either way. I'd love to see him here. You want

556
00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:07,680
Speaker 6: to go spend that somewhere else, fine, but don't don't

557
00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:09,800
Speaker 6: drag this thing out to where And you know it's

558
00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:12,280
Speaker 6: part of its negotiation. I get that, part of its

559
00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:16,280
Speaker 6: leverage and all that, But why so what you save

560
00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:17,880
Speaker 6: a few million dollars here and there.

561
00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:20,399
Speaker 8: If that's the dude, you won't go get him. They

562
00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:21,880
Speaker 8: don't grow on trees either, right.

563
00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:25,760
Speaker 6: You know, quarterbacks, wide receivers, they don't grow on trees.

564
00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:29,280
Speaker 6: He's the top ten at least receiver in this league.

565
00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:32,199
Speaker 8: You can't just go get those dudes. So I mean,

566
00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:34,280
Speaker 8: just make your mind up. Let's go.

567
00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:37,200
Speaker 7: It's just signing him long term now also brings those

568
00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:40,080
Speaker 7: cap numbers down. So what gives you more money to

569
00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:42,840
Speaker 7: go out there and spend on, you know, because a

570
00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:44,920
Speaker 7: couple And that's the part about if you had done

571
00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:48,200
Speaker 7: this earlier in the year, you don't lose those guys

572
00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:51,000
Speaker 7: that you were after that went to the Vegas Raiders

573
00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:53,360
Speaker 7: that went to the Klendar Panthers, because you would have

574
00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:57,040
Speaker 7: had that capital. You would have had that capital to

575
00:28:57,120 --> 00:29:00,360
Speaker 7: spend because his number would have been so much lower

576
00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:03,760
Speaker 7: per year. And but that's neither here nor there.

577
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:06,760
Speaker 9: They just in Shannon, let me ask you this question

578
00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:11,520
Speaker 9: because I've been about this and I finally found a

579
00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:14,960
Speaker 9: word of what I've been trying to get for year's.

580
00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:17,440
Speaker 4: Team building.

581
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Speaker 10: Can you build a better team by letting George walk?

582
00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:26,480
Speaker 11: You know?

583
00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:29,040
Speaker 9: Because like I said last year, it's two only two

584
00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:31,120
Speaker 9: ways we could have did the green Bay thing. To me,

585
00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:33,680
Speaker 9: the guy that went to Green Bay, it's only two

586
00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:36,120
Speaker 9: ways we could have did this. Either paid this guy

587
00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:38,360
Speaker 9: and go out and got get him some help. So

588
00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:40,800
Speaker 9: we wouldn't even be having this discussion because then you

589
00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:43,880
Speaker 9: would have had a top rated defense, right And so

590
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:48,160
Speaker 9: now that it's a great offense with George Pickings, you

591
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:50,040
Speaker 9: don't know how far you to win. Well, this kid

592
00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:54,440
Speaker 9: walked away and it really damaged the defense. So now

593
00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:58,040
Speaker 9: you got is George Pickings in CD and Dak and whatever,

594
00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:02,040
Speaker 9: but you can't win any games because you have no defense.

595
00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:07,840
Speaker 9: If we lose George Picking, we have to continue to

596
00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:13,640
Speaker 9: build our team with guys that can play B plus

597
00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:18,520
Speaker 9: B players we don't need. Last year, we had eighty

598
00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:22,080
Speaker 9: percent of our team C players C plus. The way

599
00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:25,680
Speaker 9: they play. I'm not saying these players' ability was C plus.

600
00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:28,000
Speaker 9: It could have been better, but the way they play,

601
00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:30,440
Speaker 9: we just had a bunch of seeds running around and

602
00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:34,280
Speaker 9: it showed with our record. If we lose this kid,

603
00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:38,120
Speaker 9: what do you see us? Where do you see us

604
00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:40,880
Speaker 9: man as wide receiver, as tight ends?

605
00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:42,000
Speaker 10: What do you see us?

606
00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:44,760
Speaker 9: Are we gonna be a better team, or at least

607
00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:47,840
Speaker 9: we can we duplicate what we got last year from

608
00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:49,760
Speaker 9: the offense, it's gonna drop off a cliff.

609
00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:50,200
Speaker 2: No.

610
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Speaker 7: I think with Dak Prescott, as long as he's healthy,

611
00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:55,480
Speaker 7: you're gonna have a good offense. Okay, he's shown you

612
00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:57,680
Speaker 7: that over the last five years. I told you earlier.

613
00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:01,320
Speaker 7: You know, the last five years. When he's healthy, it's

614
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:04,120
Speaker 7: the offense's top ten. The one year in twenty twenty

615
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:07,800
Speaker 7: four he got hurt in like Week eight or nine

616
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:10,800
Speaker 7: and missed the rest of the season and everything went downhill.

617
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:16,120
Speaker 7: But when he's healthy, that's the biggest thing. When he's healthy,

618
00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:18,200
Speaker 7: When you have a healthy quarterback, you have a chance.

619
00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:21,520
Speaker 7: So if that means that George Pickens goes somewhere else

620
00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:24,440
Speaker 7: and you get those assets back, the team building part

621
00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:26,760
Speaker 7: is going to get the players on the defensive side,

622
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:31,160
Speaker 7: that's going to help you out. Dak can make up

623
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:33,680
Speaker 7: a multitude of sins with his ability. See he can

624
00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:36,000
Speaker 7: go off for sixteen seventeen hundred yards. We've seen it.

625
00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:39,200
Speaker 7: You would hope that Ryan Filinoyd has stepped up his

626
00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:41,120
Speaker 7: game and now can move in to that number two spot.

627
00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:43,120
Speaker 7: And there's still some veterans heams that you can go

628
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:45,880
Speaker 7: out there and get to fill in that role. You know,

629
00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:48,800
Speaker 7: it's one hundred different ways to skin a cat. Right,

630
00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:50,600
Speaker 7: I can go get you, I can go draft another

631
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:54,160
Speaker 7: tight end and now you know have another athletic tight end.

632
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:56,200
Speaker 7: I can go and get twelve hundred yards from two

633
00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:58,480
Speaker 7: or three people. You know what I'm saying, like I

634
00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:01,880
Speaker 7: can go get ten touchdowns from two people. Again, it's

635
00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:04,520
Speaker 7: a It's a multitude of ways to skin a cat

636
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:09,600
Speaker 7: and offensively as long as your quarterback is healthy. Defensively,

637
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:11,280
Speaker 7: if you don't have the guys that can go out

638
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:14,520
Speaker 7: there and make plays for you seven nine to one,

639
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:15,600
Speaker 7: good luck.

640
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:16,360
Speaker 4: See we.

641
00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:20,840
Speaker 9: And I understand. I love the Star stars who I am.

642
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:24,000
Speaker 9: That's why I can leave all these crazy things. Hey man,

643
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:26,280
Speaker 9: I'm around the world thanks to the Star, right, and

644
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:30,000
Speaker 9: that's real. But we're the only team in the world.

645
00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:34,200
Speaker 9: I'm gonna ask you this, a simple question. Is a

646
00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:38,840
Speaker 9: kicker world for ten million dollars only in Dallas? Only

647
00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:43,880
Speaker 9: in the Star We ain't say here when you stop

648
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:49,000
Speaker 9: us here, I mean just think now you think Pittsburgh

649
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:53,280
Speaker 9: will be arguing about a kid, Hey man, we gotta

650
00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:56,920
Speaker 9: get a second round tender. We've been to play a

651
00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:58,880
Speaker 9: kicker at least seven million dollars a year.

652
00:32:58,960 --> 00:32:59,600
Speaker 10: I ain't saying that.

653
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:02,680
Speaker 9: If he get it, I'm gonna be I'm gonna hang

654
00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:06,320
Speaker 9: out with him a little bit, you know, for real.

655
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:09,520
Speaker 9: I mean, I'm gonna learn his name, and I'm gonna

656
00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:12,440
Speaker 9: expect for him to make seventy and eighty yard kicks.

657
00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:13,080
Speaker 10: I am.

658
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:15,240
Speaker 9: If you're gonna give him that, I'm gonna expect. I'm

659
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:18,200
Speaker 9: gonna expect that. If this game is on the line,

660
00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:22,360
Speaker 9: there's three seconds left and we down three seventy yarder,

661
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:24,840
Speaker 9: I want it made. If you're gonna give him that

662
00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:27,760
Speaker 9: type of money. As a fan, I can't, I can't

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Speaker 6: Look, we were talking about George Pickens and this thing,

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Speaker 6: getting to this franchise tag, getting to training camp, him

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Speaker 6: possibly not playing, and then getting right down to the

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Speaker 6: season before he has to hold out or do whatever

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Speaker 6: he does if he doesn't sign the franchise tag. How

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Speaker 6: much of an impact did when Michael was here and

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Speaker 6: we saw the whole dog and Pony show We know

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Speaker 6: it affected one guy on the defense that was on

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Speaker 6: the team at the time it disrupted, and you know, Jesse,

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Speaker 6: you saw it in person and talked about, you know,

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Speaker 6: Trayvon and Micah hanging out at practice over here, and

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Speaker 6: Trayvon didn't seem as interested once. It was probably well

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Speaker 6: before that, but it really got noticeable when Micah started

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Speaker 6: having his drama and he was not interested and then

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Speaker 6: that trickled down to Trayvon And that was just what

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Speaker 6: we saw with our eyes right And how many other

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Speaker 6: people in the locker room did that maybe effect? And

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Speaker 6: calls behind closed doors drama disruption affect the defense. And

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Speaker 6: the reason why I'm asking is because if the pickings

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Speaker 6: thing goes down and you do this again, does it

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Speaker 6: cause ripples? Does it cause lack of concentration? Does it

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Speaker 6: cause splits in locker rooms when things like that happened?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? Sure absolutely.

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Speaker 7: What one of the first things that you've realized is

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Speaker 7: in these type of moments is the NFL is a business.

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Speaker 7: We sit here on this show many many time and

743
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Speaker 7: tell you that your last name does not match your

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Speaker 7: last name on the people who's.

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Speaker 4: On your checks.

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Speaker 7: You're not family. It's not family. It's a business. But

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Speaker 7: then what gets down to it is the locker room

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Speaker 7: is such a unique environment. There are white, Black, Indian, Asian, Hispanic,

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Speaker 7: whatever it is. There's there's believers, non believers. There's Christians, Catholics, Atheists, Buddha, well,

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Speaker 7: whatever it is. It's it's some that come from two

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Speaker 7: parent house ords it something come from one parent. It's

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Speaker 7: a it's a it's a mashed up unit that all

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Speaker 7: come together for one purpose to win football games. So

754
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Speaker 7: when things begin to get out of whack is when

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Speaker 7: the people that are involved are impacting our ability to

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Speaker 7: win football games or to or or to come together

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Speaker 7: and practice and prepare to win football games. Because there

758
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Speaker 7: is a trickle down effect. When George doesn't show up

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Speaker 7: to Nate's point earlier, now the tight end has to

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Speaker 7: go and become more of a viable option, which means

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Speaker 7: he has to pull away from helping the tackle, which

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Speaker 7: means now the tackle might be out there on an

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Speaker 7: island by himself, which means that said tackle might get

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Speaker 7: beat more often than not. Now he's upset because now

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Speaker 7: they were talking about how he didn't got beat because

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Speaker 7: he don't know he no longer has that help, right,

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Speaker 7: now the wide receiver and the tackle couldn't be too

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Speaker 7: further apart. It couldn't be more further apart, but it's impacted. Okay,

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Speaker 7: then you have the other guy who is the tonight's

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Speaker 7: point again, the rumber four wide receiver becomes the number

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Speaker 7: three wide receiver. But now I start questioning the thing

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Speaker 7: of you know, I'm getting a fair shot today because

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Speaker 7: he's not here. Will you give me that fair shot

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Speaker 7: when he comes back. Now I'm a little bit jaded

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Speaker 7: about that because I was here all OTA's and here,

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Speaker 7: all mini camping, here, all training camp busting my butt,

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Speaker 7: practicing through injury, learning multiple positions, taking the beating of

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Speaker 7: doing what it is that we do. But then when

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Speaker 7: he all of a sudden comes back, now I get

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Speaker 7: pushed by the wayside. Again, that's the business part of

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Speaker 7: it all. So it begins to have these ripple effects

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Speaker 7: because guys are looking around and they're like, you know,

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Speaker 7: I'm in a contract here or I'm in the tell

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Speaker 7: end of my career, and damn I want to win.

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Speaker 4: And so there's this there is this necessary.

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Speaker 7: Understanding that has to be had because it is a

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Speaker 7: business and yours and company and others need to take

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Speaker 7: care of their business of it. But the other guys

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Speaker 7: are saying who may not even who may not have

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Speaker 7: come to the business portion of football yet, or who

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Speaker 7: have done the business portion of football yet and got

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Speaker 7: their bread and now are trying to win. They're looking

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Speaker 7: around like, come on, dog, damn. You know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 7: I don't want.

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Speaker 4: To get to the season.

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Speaker 7: Now.

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Speaker 4: We two three games in and we one and you

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Speaker 4: weren't there. That's when the division happens.

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Speaker 7: That's when the guys look around there going man, they

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Speaker 7: let him do what he wants to do, and this

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Speaker 7: guy gets to doing what he wants to do, but

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Speaker 7: I can't do. So there's always that little bit of that.

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Speaker 7: You know, you have a group text, then you have

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Speaker 7: a side group text. You know what I'm saying, there's

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Speaker 7: a couple of guys who click up on the side

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Speaker 7: of that and.

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Speaker 4: Have the conversation.

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Speaker 7: So these things stuff, they have a ripple effect, and

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00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:26,799
Speaker 7: when it starts impacting other guys' ability to do their

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Speaker 7: job correctly, and that ultimately impacts their ability to make money,

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Speaker 7: that's when things be get a little bit rocky and

812
00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:37,680
Speaker 7: it's gonna be a distraction. We if George Pickts is

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Speaker 7: not at training camp. I'm gonna tell you what, Jesse,

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Speaker 7: look at this camp right here, when George Pickts doesn't

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Speaker 7: show up to training camp, Jesse Holly, every single day

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Speaker 7: when I get on my show, when we go Hanging

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Speaker 7: with the Boys and one of my other mini shows,

818
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Speaker 7: we're going to be breaking down and dissecting what's happening

819
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Speaker 7: in the passing game every day. When I get a

820
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Speaker 7: chance to interview coach Shotimer, Dak Prescott, Ceedee Lamb, or

821
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Speaker 7: any other player that's involved with the Dallas Cowboys, Jesse

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Speaker 7: Holly is going to ask the questions about.

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Speaker 4: George Picktts.

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Speaker 7: When we go into the preseason games and Dak Prescott

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Speaker 7: is out there and the offense doesn't look like it's

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Speaker 7: functioning and flowing properly, Jesse Holly is going to ask

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Speaker 7: the questions about what if George Pickens was in the fold,

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Speaker 7: how is this going to every day? And what's gonna

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Speaker 7: happen is those owners, those coaches, those players, They're going

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Speaker 7: to get tired of Jesse Holly's and the Jesse Hollies

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Speaker 7: of the world asking questions about players who.

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Speaker 4: Aren't in camp.

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Speaker 7: Don't get mad at me. Don't get upset at me

834
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Speaker 7: because I have to ask the question when he is

835
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Speaker 7: not present. Now, if it goes great and it goes well,

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Speaker 7: I'm still going to ask the question, Well, if it's

837
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Speaker 7: going so great, do you actually need them? If it's

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Speaker 7: not going so great, I'm gonna ask the question. Going

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Speaker 7: so great, probably it's silent, right. So it creates the

840
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Speaker 7: It creates this level of distraction that people have to

841
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Speaker 7: answer for that are not George Pickens, especially if he's

842
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Speaker 7: not even present, that people will have to answer whether

843
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:16,960
Speaker 7: they want to or not, whether they want to hear

844
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Speaker 7: me or you or Nate or anyone else talk about

845
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Speaker 7: it and they jump in our DMS or they send

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Speaker 7: somel abiminal messages or they see me in the hallway

847
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Speaker 7: and they roll their eyes at me.

848
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Speaker 1: So be it.

849
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Speaker 4: This is what happens.

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Speaker 7: This is what we have to do as now as

851
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Speaker 7: media is ask the question about said player, whether he's

852
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Speaker 7: here or not here, and how that impact. That's the

853
00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:39,520
Speaker 7: ripple effect, that's the distraction that those guys have to answer.

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Speaker 8: Please don't make Jesse work that hard. Get this man

855
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Speaker 8: signed or.

856
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Speaker 6: Or let him or let him go.

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Speaker 8: Don't let's don't have this scenario playout.

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Speaker 4: Drag it out norag it out?

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Speaker 2: No.

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Speaker 4: I love I love the content as a content, drag it.

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Speaker 8: Out as a fan.

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Speaker 4: I don't want that drag it out.

863
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Speaker 8: I want to have my team not over go.

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Speaker 6: Have we have we in recent years, the last six

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Speaker 6: seven years, had our team as we wanted.

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Speaker 8: No, no, fully in training camp as a group. Nope,

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Speaker 8: without one major player.

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Speaker 9: I know one thing we cannot do. Brother, what I

869
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Speaker 9: transpired last year out there in training camp.

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Speaker 4: That was a joke.

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Speaker 9: Here you got a head coach trying to do everything

872
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Speaker 9: he can to motivate eighty or ninety guys to do

873
00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:36,520
Speaker 9: the right thing, and too too, and these guys are

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Speaker 9: going they and then you get a guy walk out,

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Speaker 9: one guy with his shoes off, chilling, the other dude.

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Speaker 10: Bowl of cereal, chilling.

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Speaker 9: Laying on the training table, you know, going doing drills,

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Speaker 9: going over there talking to the linebacker coach or the

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Speaker 9: d line coach that I'm just I'm at a distance

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Speaker 9: looking like this. Hang on, I'm saying in my mind,

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Speaker 9: they either got to hurry up and do something or

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Speaker 9: this is gonna implode.

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Speaker 10: We've been through this. I'm talking about the Cowboys.

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Speaker 9: Do you want this again. Do you want to see

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Speaker 9: a guy walk out there? You know and the and

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Speaker 9: the wide receiver. Coach ain't gonna ignore him if he Hey, coach,

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Speaker 9: got about let you a minute, he can be in

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Speaker 9: the middle of a drill.

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Speaker 10: Hey coach, y'all what you think about this?

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Speaker 9: You think he's gonna ignore him, even ignore him like

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Speaker 9: this dude couldn't ignore Michael.

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Speaker 10: Like the defensive back coach didn't ignore the other kid.

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Speaker 4: Who Yeah.

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Speaker 9: Then I'm saying to myself, come on, man, can't you

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Speaker 9: I want to walk and say, brother, don't you see

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Speaker 9: them practicing once you go inside?

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Speaker 10: Won't you?

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Speaker 9: You know this is me thinking, like, go inside, go somewhere, brothers,

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Speaker 9: don't stand out here and not do nothing. I don't

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Speaker 9: want to go through that again as a fan.

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Speaker 7: Well, buckle up, natean you're going through it again this year.

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Speaker 7: Just telling you, unless unless the only thing happens, you'll

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Speaker 7: you'll you'll be you will be going through that again

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Speaker 7: this year.

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Speaker 6: In the words of the Great Nate Newton, Lord Jesus

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Speaker 6: all right and the fellas, good stuff, Jess, Nate, Kurt,

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Speaker 6: take care of your butt, get back next week.

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Speaker 8: We save most of the questions for you to participate in. Chris,

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Speaker 8: thanks for keeping us on the air. No cookies for

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Speaker 8: the Big Boy to back, be next back.

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Speaker 10: Next week, Stop, same time, Stop with that man the

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Speaker 10: same place.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, hanging with the boys.

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Speaker 4: We out You're a stop.

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