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Speaker 1: Levels to This is an iHeart women's sports production in

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Speaker 1: partnership with Deep Blue Sports and Entertainment. You can find

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Speaker 2: Hey, everybody, what's going on? It's your girl, Trerika Foster Brassby.

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Speaker 1: What's up y'all? You know what time it is? It's

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Speaker 1: shit girl, Cheryl Swoke.

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Speaker 2: Yes, indeed, And this is the levels to this podcast.

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Speaker 2: This is the show where we share that there is

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Speaker 2: levels to the shit that women go through. And we

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Speaker 2: have got a fun show lined up for you today.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna have a really good conversation about a subject

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Speaker 2: that I think some of us can relate to. But

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Speaker 2: it's definitely popping it off in the WNBA space. And

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Speaker 2: before we get there, we need to have our surface

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Speaker 2: level catch up because listen here, honey, me, me and Schiryl.

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Speaker 2: We acted a fool.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so y'all know I won't be in the streets

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Speaker 1: like that should be in the street.

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Speaker 3: I was. I was in the street for a little

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Speaker 1: But anytime, anytime I am with this one, y'all, I

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Speaker 1: try hard.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, come on now, but you know I may

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Speaker 3: tell you, and then I'll let you fill the people in.

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Speaker 3: But let me just tell you you.

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Speaker 1: You were smooth with it this time though, because my

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Speaker 3: Ain't coming back out.

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Speaker 2: I already noticed.

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Speaker 3: No, that's what I said. Y'all. Y'all, y'all got me good.

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Speaker 1: You, my brother, Brandon, Christina, y'all got me good.

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Speaker 2: We had a plan. We can't conct it a plan.

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Speaker 2: So this weekend we were at Fanatics Best in New

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Speaker 2: York and it was a great time. Surel was there

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Speaker 2: Friday and Saturday doing her things, taking pictures with Tom Brady.

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Speaker 2: That's why i'mlad I wouldn't hear, because I'd have been like, oh,

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Speaker 2: hell no, I have to walk away from that one, like,

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Speaker 2: and then on Saturday we had our show. We were

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Speaker 2: on the Dick Sporting Good stage. Cynthia Copper joined us.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god. We had a nice crowd.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we're engaged.

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Speaker 2: It was just a really great and fun show. And

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Speaker 2: so Brandon and I, which is Cheryl's younger brother. If

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Speaker 2: you guys aren't aren't aware, but Brandon I already knew

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Speaker 2: what it was. We were like, listen the moment that

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Speaker 2: she not coming back out. So we got to make

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Speaker 2: to forty forty when we got some wings, and we

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Speaker 2: just kept the food coming because we know food makes

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Speaker 3: Know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: So we got wings and more wings and more wings.

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Speaker 1: It is more all.

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Speaker 3: I'm surprised. I'm not clucking right now.

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Speaker 2: And by the time the last set of wings came

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Speaker 2: a ploy to keep Chryl outside. Yeah, y'all, they got me,

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Speaker 1: I at one point I was like, okay, cause I know,

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Speaker 1: I really enjoyed myself, and I won't do it again

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Speaker 3: That was a place to be. The second thing.

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Speaker 1: It was really cool, like adope, adope, event amazing people.

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Speaker 2: I know, I know, I'm very excited for our fans

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Speaker 3: I'm out deuces.

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Speaker 1: I have to say this before we take it to

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Speaker 1: this on June twenty fifth, you know the other reason

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Speaker 1: why I'm excited. It's my kiddo's birthday. Oh my goodness,

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Speaker 3: He's twenty eight years old today. Can you believe that?

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Speaker 2: Goodness? Jordan's happy birthday?

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Speaker 1: You are a grown, fully, fully grown ass man. Fully, yes,

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Speaker 2: But I love that. Well. With that being said, let's

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Speaker 2: So last week, news came out that the Indiana fever

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Speaker 2: But then news started to circulate. Rumors started to cuculate

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Speaker 2: I wish the Fever great success is they continue to

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Speaker 2: there's a lot to unpack here, right, There's a lot

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Speaker 2: her career. She's often said that she contemplated retirement. She

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Speaker 2: So there's a lot to unpack here, a whole lot. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: So let's start with you just kind of sharing what

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Speaker 1: You want to start there or you want to start

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Speaker 1: Oh, I think a whole lot of people were shocked,

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Speaker 3: Basically, do Wanna Bonner is her like?

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Speaker 3: I don't know the conversation. I don't know what led

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Speaker 2: Everything look good, it sounds good, it feel good, it's

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Speaker 2: This is not just any player, right, Like as Dawanna

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Speaker 2: And if she is going to come off the bench,

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Speaker 2: Rather you figure that out now while you're like, what

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Speaker 2: we're gonna have to look at now because Indiana, on

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Speaker 1: Reason, right, do Wanna felt like Indiana was the best

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Speaker 1: whatever they promised her, whatever they told her, whatever, there

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Speaker 3: Here's here's my question.

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Speaker 1: Do Wanna Bonner with Connecticut has always been I'm going

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 1: I don't know the conversation she had with Steph, with Amber,

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Speaker 3: You know what I mean?

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Speaker 2: Because it's hard.

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Speaker 3: It's hard for a player tea to go from being that.

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Speaker 1: to go to your point, that's also why I felt like,

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Speaker 2: And when we come back on the other side of

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Speaker 2: I mean I would have anticipated that she would have

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Speaker 2: So it's a very complicated situation when you think about it.

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Speaker 2: she was so highly touted as being such a great

436
00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:43,000
Speaker 2: pickup is because of her expertise and because of what

437
00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:45,560
Speaker 2: they felt that she could bring offensively to help them

438
00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:48,840
Speaker 2: put them in contention for a title alongside the players

439
00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:51,400
Speaker 2: that they currently have. Now I get how, I get

440
00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:54,399
Speaker 2: how all of this is, like what whatever, But she

441
00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:58,520
Speaker 2: has made it clear, according to her agent, that she

442
00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:02,399
Speaker 2: wants to play for either Atlanta or Phoenix. Now I

443
00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:04,480
Speaker 2: don't know why she wants to be in Atlanta. Maybe

444
00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:08,280
Speaker 2: because it's closer to Alabama, which is where she's from,

445
00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:10,199
Speaker 2: which is where she went to school at Auburn. So

446
00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:13,119
Speaker 2: I don't know. Maybe maybe it's a family relation that

447
00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:15,880
Speaker 2: she wants to be in Atlanta. It can be assumed

448
00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:17,920
Speaker 2: that she wants to be in Phoenix because it's where

449
00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:21,800
Speaker 2: her fiance plays, Alisa Thomas, is in Phoenix. It also

450
00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:24,480
Speaker 2: could be because she started her career in Phoenix. She

451
00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:26,840
Speaker 2: was drafted in Phoenix, and as we both mentioned, she's

452
00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:29,280
Speaker 2: getting towards the end of that career and maybe she

453
00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:31,720
Speaker 2: wants to finish her career where she started. So there

454
00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:34,240
Speaker 2: are a couple of reasons why she may want to

455
00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:38,040
Speaker 2: be in Phoenix. But like you, my question would be, Sis,

456
00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:41,800
Speaker 2: why you ain't go to Phoenix to start? Like, ah,

457
00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:46,679
Speaker 2: you just didn't go to Phoenix to start. So, because

458
00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:50,000
Speaker 2: that's what the mexupo. And now we're looking at cap

459
00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:54,119
Speaker 2: space right because when she clears waivers, she becomes an

460
00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:57,200
Speaker 2: unrestricted free agent, so she can sign with any team

461
00:24:57,280 --> 00:24:59,639
Speaker 2: she wants to. But the Mercury have about eighty eight

462
00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:02,520
Speaker 2: thousand dollars in cap space, so they could sign by

463
00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:05,360
Speaker 2: her for the veteran minimum if she wanted to take

464
00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:08,680
Speaker 2: that amount, But that would also mean that they would

465
00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:12,120
Speaker 2: need to cut somebody on their team because they already

466
00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:14,800
Speaker 2: have the max of twelve people on their roster. And

467
00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:18,760
Speaker 2: they have a chemistry that they have built, and they

468
00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:21,639
Speaker 2: have a chemistry that they that has placed them to

469
00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:24,600
Speaker 2: be the number three team in the league right now.

470
00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:28,040
Speaker 2: So not only are we looking at financially does this

471
00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:31,560
Speaker 2: make sense for Phoenix, but also are we willing to

472
00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:36,240
Speaker 2: risk disrupting the chemistry that we've currently built to accommodate.

473
00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:37,080
Speaker 3: Maybe they are.

474
00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:40,200
Speaker 2: Maybe they feel like it's somebody that they would potentially

475
00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:42,479
Speaker 2: weigh for her. Maybe, and that's their business if so.

476
00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:44,840
Speaker 2: But these are the questions that we now have.

477
00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:49,120
Speaker 1: So listen, if I'm a GM of any of the

478
00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:52,960
Speaker 1: top eight teams right now, right I won't say eight,

479
00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:55,440
Speaker 1: maybe of any of the top five teams right now.

480
00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:58,560
Speaker 3: And granted she has said either Atlanta or Phoenix.

481
00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:01,440
Speaker 1: But if I'm putting my GM had on right now

482
00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:04,160
Speaker 1: and I'm a GM of one of the top five teams,

483
00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:08,600
Speaker 1: as much as I love, I wanna and appreciate what

484
00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:12,640
Speaker 1: she's done and she can still who, I don't know

485
00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:16,480
Speaker 1: if I'm willing to do that. So let's just take

486
00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:21,000
Speaker 1: Phoenix because that is the one team she mentioned she

487
00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:24,800
Speaker 1: would like to go to. I don't know if anybody

488
00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:29,919
Speaker 1: when the season started expected Phoenix to be sitting in

489
00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:34,560
Speaker 1: that third spot right now, And granted with at with

490
00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:38,400
Speaker 1: Satu playing the way she is, and Ka hasn't even

491
00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:41,119
Speaker 1: been kay yet because she's just coming back.

492
00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:45,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, but T you said the word the chemistry.

493
00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:51,400
Speaker 1: Listen, they have rookies that are playing minutes, that are contributing.

494
00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:55,400
Speaker 1: It's not just the Big three with at Satu and

495
00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:57,560
Speaker 1: Ki that has gotten them where they are.

496
00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:00,200
Speaker 3: It's the others, right, the role play.

497
00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:04,520
Speaker 1: So are you as a GM, are you willing to say,

498
00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:06,920
Speaker 1: all right, which one of these players am I going

499
00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:10,040
Speaker 1: to cut to bring in Dowana Bonner.

500
00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:14,240
Speaker 3: At the vet minimum?

501
00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:14,560
Speaker 2: Right?

502
00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:17,000
Speaker 3: Who? And we don't know if do Wanna want would

503
00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:17,800
Speaker 3: play for that or not.

504
00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:18,960
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying.

505
00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:23,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's just a That's a tough position for a

506
00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:26,200
Speaker 1: team to be in, right, Because we said it before,

507
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:27,560
Speaker 1: Do Wanna ain't no scrub?

508
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:28,160
Speaker 2: Right?

509
00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:30,520
Speaker 3: Can Dewana Bonner help you win a championship?

510
00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:30,840
Speaker 2: Yeah?

511
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:31,320
Speaker 3: She can?

512
00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:35,640
Speaker 1: But are you also willing to take that chance when

513
00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:39,280
Speaker 1: you already see what you have as far as chemistry goes?

514
00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:42,000
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, I don't know.

515
00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:44,600
Speaker 3: It's just a tough position to be in.

516
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:49,960
Speaker 2: I would love for dB to reconsider where she wants

517
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:53,600
Speaker 2: to go. Me too, because I'm seeing reports that are

518
00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:55,920
Speaker 2: saying that teams have been advised not to even pick

519
00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:58,480
Speaker 2: her up off waivers because of where she wants to go.

520
00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:03,399
Speaker 2: But I would love for her to just reconsider a

521
00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:06,000
Speaker 2: few places, and the one that comes to mind, even

522
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:07,640
Speaker 2: though I know they ain't got no money for her either.

523
00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:09,199
Speaker 2: But the one that comes to mind is lost one

524
00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:13,040
Speaker 2: hundred percent, like I should. Oh, she's just in my head.

525
00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:15,720
Speaker 2: You're it's a forty five minute flight to Phoenix. So

526
00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:18,880
Speaker 2: if it's about time with at bam, you got it.

527
00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:23,200
Speaker 2: Forty five minute flight. But more importantly, the connection between

528
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:25,480
Speaker 2: her and Asia, as much as they could use some

529
00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:29,400
Speaker 2: additional offensive scoring, Ah, it would be.

530
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:34,200
Speaker 3: A sight listen and do wanna Bonner to Vegas?

531
00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:38,000
Speaker 1: It to me it puts Vegas back in that conversation

532
00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:41,040
Speaker 1: of it does trying.

533
00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:41,960
Speaker 3: To win another championship.

534
00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:48,880
Speaker 1: Vegas needs some scoring and do wanna at her size

535
00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:51,560
Speaker 1: and her lengths not just on the offensive end, she

536
00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:55,280
Speaker 1: also can play the four if she needs to to give.

537
00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:56,760
Speaker 3: Asia a little break at times.

538
00:28:57,000 --> 00:29:00,240
Speaker 1: But defensively, right, she can guard at the three for

539
00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:03,680
Speaker 1: the two yeap Vegas. You're right, they don't have the

540
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:06,520
Speaker 1: money either. And I'll tell you this, at this point,

541
00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:09,280
Speaker 1: it's probably way too late. One of the teams that

542
00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:11,360
Speaker 1: I was like, dang, she could have helped them. Also,

543
00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:16,640
Speaker 1: what's Chicago? Oh yeah, I know the Vets that they

544
00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:20,040
Speaker 1: got in free agency and Aero Atkins and Keia Nurse

545
00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:23,600
Speaker 1: and Beck Allen who I love, by the way, I

546
00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:24,240
Speaker 1: love beck Allen.

547
00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:26,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, but she's so great.

548
00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:32,440
Speaker 1: Do wanna Bonner on that Chicago Sky team? To me, like,

549
00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:34,320
Speaker 1: I would have loved to have seen that, but whatever

550
00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:35,480
Speaker 1: didn't happen.

551
00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:38,920
Speaker 2: Didn't have another team, another team that I think would

552
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:41,880
Speaker 2: be great if she wanted to. But and they have

553
00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:45,800
Speaker 2: the cap space to claim her. The Mystics, Oh, the

554
00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:49,600
Speaker 2: Mystics showed you in that game against Minnesota. Yeah, that

555
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:52,560
Speaker 2: they are able to compete with anybody, and they did

556
00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:56,080
Speaker 2: that without their goal to score in Britney Science. And

557
00:29:56,200 --> 00:30:00,240
Speaker 2: so when I think about adding someone like dB, who's

558
00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:02,040
Speaker 2: going to give you that veteran presence, who's going to

559
00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:04,560
Speaker 2: give you that experience, who can, as you mentioned, give

560
00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:07,560
Speaker 2: you that defense that they are clearly making it known

561
00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:10,880
Speaker 2: that their identity is going to be a defensive team.

562
00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:13,800
Speaker 2: At that. Next to Shakira Austin at that, next to

563
00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:17,240
Speaker 2: Kiki Aria fin at that, next to Sonya se Trump and.

564
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:21,720
Speaker 1: Time out at that, next to a healthy Georgia Amore

565
00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:22,920
Speaker 1: coming back next year.

566
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:24,040
Speaker 3: Guy, right, you.

567
00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:28,440
Speaker 2: Got Emily Inksler coming off the bar like that would

568
00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:33,160
Speaker 2: be a nasty squat. I just want you to reconsider dB.

569
00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:38,680
Speaker 2: Just think about it, like, think about it, like you really,

570
00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:43,440
Speaker 2: you really could do some damage on some other teams

571
00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:46,160
Speaker 2: that don't have to be Phoenix in Atlanta.

572
00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:49,520
Speaker 1: You know, here's the other thing I'm gonna say about

573
00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:53,760
Speaker 1: Phoenix Besides the fact that they're playing so well, And

574
00:30:54,560 --> 00:31:00,239
Speaker 1: I'm saying this from someone who's married, right, like, I

575
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:05,640
Speaker 1: also think what would At like to play with her fiance?

576
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:10,000
Speaker 1: Of course they did it in Connecticut. Would would be like, yeah, yeah, yeah,

577
00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:13,320
Speaker 1: so they've proven it works. But you also got to

578
00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:17,959
Speaker 1: know that that's putting pressure on At as well. Meaning

579
00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:23,600
Speaker 1: I think when when you're not playing together, and that's

580
00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:26,400
Speaker 1: for both of them, it allows you to just play

581
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:30,440
Speaker 1: free and not worry about getting mad at your significant

582
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:33,080
Speaker 1: other or them getting mad at you because you didn't

583
00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:35,040
Speaker 1: pass them the ball or you missed a shot or

584
00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:38,479
Speaker 1: you're playing like shit whatever. So I don't know, here

585
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:43,480
Speaker 1: is what I hope. I hope that wherever she ends

586
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:49,120
Speaker 1: up playing this season, that she's she's happy. You know,

587
00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:52,320
Speaker 1: she is getting towards the end of her career and

588
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:55,000
Speaker 1: I just want her to go ball out and play

589
00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:58,719
Speaker 1: basketball the way she's always played and be with an

590
00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:02,640
Speaker 1: organization that appreciates her and one that she feels like

591
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:06,440
Speaker 1: she's a good fit for you know, I read so

592
00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:08,840
Speaker 1: many as you did too, I'm sure, just so many

593
00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:11,080
Speaker 1: comments about you know, people talking about well.

594
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:15,400
Speaker 3: Whereas the loyalty and she's a quitter. I think about

595
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:19,000
Speaker 3: like the real world. Yeah, on a regular job or

596
00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:22,600
Speaker 3: whatever it is. If if you're on a job and.

597
00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:30,040
Speaker 1: You feel disrespected by your boss, disrespected by your manager,

598
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:34,200
Speaker 1: whatever it is, and you've had a conversation with them

599
00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:37,000
Speaker 1: to let them know here is how I feel about

600
00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:41,280
Speaker 1: what's going on, and then they don't change anything.

601
00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:42,800
Speaker 3: You have two choices.

602
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:45,960
Speaker 1: You can continue to sit there on the job and

603
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:49,000
Speaker 1: continue to feel disrespected, or you can say, you know what,

604
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:50,960
Speaker 1: this ain't working for me anymore.

605
00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:54,560
Speaker 3: I'm out. I'm gonna find something that does work for me.

606
00:32:55,440 --> 00:33:00,320
Speaker 3: In deuces Yep. That happens all the time. I'm in

607
00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:01,720
Speaker 3: the real world every day.

608
00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:07,120
Speaker 1: So why why why is it any differently when it

609
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:09,040
Speaker 1: comes to sports, or maybe I should say when it

610
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:11,240
Speaker 1: comes to female sports, because it happens in the NBA

611
00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:13,320
Speaker 1: all the time as well, where the guy who times

612
00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:15,680
Speaker 1: in the NBA are like this, listen, I ain't gonna

613
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:18,920
Speaker 1: play yeah all the time. I don't know lebron or

614
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:22,080
Speaker 1: his age whoever said don't don't draft Bronnie.

615
00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:25,880
Speaker 3: If you do, he's going to go to Australia or wherever.

616
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:27,120
Speaker 3: Do you know what I mean?

617
00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:28,520
Speaker 2: I hear that all the time.

618
00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:30,920
Speaker 3: It happens in the NBA all the time.

619
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:33,640
Speaker 1: But when when it comes to the w and players

620
00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:38,240
Speaker 1: are like this, this isn't the no, I'm out, then

621
00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:39,240
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, it.

622
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:40,600
Speaker 2: Just happened with Kevin Durant.

623
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:43,880
Speaker 1: Oh facts, one hundred percent. Now I'm happy he comeing

624
00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:49,720
Speaker 1: to Houston. But one hundred percent, yes, I did it.

625
00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:52,360
Speaker 1: Did and the and the narrative was very different. Well,

626
00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:54,440
Speaker 1: it's Kevin Durant, he can do that. Well, this is

627
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:56,040
Speaker 1: the Wanna Bonner, so she can do that.

628
00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:58,120
Speaker 2: Do Wanna Bonner can do it? And did do it,

629
00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:01,320
Speaker 2: And it is what it is. And anybody questioning her

630
00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:05,000
Speaker 2: loyalty is crazy to me. Anybody questioning the loyalty of

631
00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:08,279
Speaker 2: certain athletes in general is crazy to me. Like, I

632
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:12,600
Speaker 2: don't understand, because baby, these teams ain't got no loyalty.

633
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:13,280
Speaker 3: To you at all.

634
00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:15,680
Speaker 2: They will trade Joe Ass in a heartbeat if it

635
00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 2: met their bottom dying? Do I need to speaking of Texas,

636
00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:22,799
Speaker 2: do I need to show y'all four months ago, what

637
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:28,799
Speaker 2: the hell happened in Dallas? Tell Luca about about loyalty, Well, loyalty.

638
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:33,280
Speaker 3: Teams don't have loyalty, no, but time out coaches. Coaches

639
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:34,400
Speaker 3: do it all the time.

640
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:37,319
Speaker 2: Oh my god, James Wade, do I need to throw

641
00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:39,640
Speaker 2: that up left in the middle of the season and

642
00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:40,440
Speaker 2: go to Toronto?

643
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:42,120
Speaker 3: Coaches do it all the time.

644
00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:44,319
Speaker 1: What do we do we when coaches do it it?

645
00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:46,360
Speaker 1: All they say is, well, that's the business.

646
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:49,400
Speaker 2: It's the bit. You're right, it is your rights. It

647
00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:52,640
Speaker 2: is the business. And that is exactly why it is

648
00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:55,120
Speaker 2: the business of a player to make sure that they

649
00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:57,520
Speaker 2: secure their bag and that they make sure that they

650
00:34:57,520 --> 00:35:01,400
Speaker 2: secure their standings and their for the ability.

651
00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:03,320
Speaker 3: And taking care of her business.

652
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:07,000
Speaker 2: And she's taking care of her business. I may not

653
00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:10,800
Speaker 2: have agreed with the initial decision to go to Indiana,

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Speaker 2: just because, as we all both you know, spoke to

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Speaker 2: agree with her decision to leave if it isn't benefiting her,

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Speaker 2: and it doesn't necessarily make you a quitter, but it

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Speaker 2: makes her just as much as a business woman, as

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Speaker 2: it does the people in the front office, as it

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Speaker 2: does the coaches, as it does anyone else who makes

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Speaker 2: the decision that is best for their bottom line. It

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Speaker 2: is what I would do and have done, being in

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Speaker 2: have had to cuss people to fuck out, and I've

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Speaker 2: been like, oh, you know what, let me go ahead

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Speaker 2: and walk about this dope. Let me just go ahead

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Speaker 2: and make the decision for you, because this dian that's

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Speaker 2: not gonna work. Yeah, that's what this is. So wish

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Speaker 2: Dowanna the best. I know. Wherever she goes, she's gonna

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Speaker 2: do an amazing job. She's gonna, you know, make that

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Speaker 2: team better. And I just hope that she does play

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Speaker 2: another game for another team and notts this as an

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Speaker 2: opportunity to retire, because it will be a detriment to

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Speaker 2: sports fans everywhere who love and appreciate everything that Dowana

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Speaker 2: has brought to the game to see her not play anymore,

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Speaker 2: and like this be the last vision that we have

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Speaker 2: from like she she She's owed so much more, she

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Speaker 2: deserves so much more.

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Speaker 1: So Facts dB, if and when you hear this and

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Speaker 1: listen to this sis one.

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Speaker 3: Protect your piece. Yeah, do what's best for.

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Speaker 1: You and your kids and your family. You gotta quiet

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Speaker 1: a noise, and you you deserve to be happy wherever

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Speaker 1: you end up. And just know we we got to

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Speaker 1: bac sis for show.

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Speaker 2: All right, y'all when we come back, we are going

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Speaker 2: to level this thing on out, all right, all right,

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Speaker 2: Cheryl Will. I mean, it's been a great show having

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Speaker 2: a you know, conversation about our girl, do wanna and

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Speaker 2: just in general. You know, if you we've talked about

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Speaker 2: this on the show before. When you know that you're

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Speaker 2: in a place that's not doing you good, when you

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Speaker 2: know that you're in a place that's not meant for

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Speaker 2: improving your your well being and your mental space, so

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Speaker 2: times you just got to make a decision to move on.

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Speaker 2: And you gotta just don't care about the noise. You

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Speaker 2: gotta do what you gotta do.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you got you gotta go, You gotta move around.

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Speaker 3: So Deanna period, do you boo?

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Speaker 2: Do you boo? All right? Well, with that being said,

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Speaker 2: it's time for us to go ahead and get leveled

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Speaker 2: up by Cheryl this week. So, Cheryl, what you got

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Speaker 2: for us?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Well, I think this one's very fitting for the conversation

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Speaker 1: that we just had. It says, if you are looking

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Speaker 1: for great advice, close your eyes and listen to your intuition.

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Speaker 3: The people who love you.

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Speaker 1: Can give you good advice, but ultimately, you know your

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Speaker 1: situation and your goals better than anyone else. Get comfortable

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Speaker 1: leading yourself. That is perfect.

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Speaker 2: I like that for this week's discussion. Perfect because can

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Speaker 2: nobody can Nobody tell you what to do and how

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Speaker 2: to be? You better than you?

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Speaker 1: No, I don't care what it is you. No one

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Speaker 1: knows you better than you know you.

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Speaker 2: No one knows you better than you. Perfect. That is

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Speaker 2: the perfect.

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Speaker 3: Love me better.

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Speaker 2: Hey, I'm about to go get Shaka right now.

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Speaker 3: Where are you at?

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Speaker 2: Girl?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, where are you at? Shaka?

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Speaker 2: Come on the show this What's so good, so good,

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Speaker 2: so good, so fun. Thank you, Thank you for that quote,

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Speaker 2: and thank you guys for listening to levels to this.

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Speaker 2: We are going to be back next week with more

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Speaker 2: next level conversations, so we want you to be tapped in.

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Speaker 2: Remember this isn't just our show, it's our show. We

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Speaker 2: want to hear from you, so leave us a review

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Speaker 2: on Apple Podcast. Tell us what you liked about the show.

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Speaker 2: Let us know if there are some topics that you

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Speaker 2: want to hear from, and please follow us on Instagram

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Speaker 2: videos from fanatics best that y'all might not want to.

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Speaker 3: Miss or she might not.

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Speaker 2: Oh God. Until then, friends, keep your mentals ground level

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Speaker 2: and we will be back next week.

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