WEBVTT - The Queen Caught Between Kingdoms

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Noble Blood, a production of iHeartRadio and Grim

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<v Speaker 1>and Mild from Aaron Manky listener Discretion advised. One night

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<v Speaker 1>in twelve forty two, Louis the ninth King of France

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<v Speaker 1>was settling in for an ordinary dinner when the Royal

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<v Speaker 1>food taster began doing the thing you never want to

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<v Speaker 1>see the royal food taster do. After taking a bite

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<v Speaker 1>of food, he began hacking and coughing. It seemed that

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<v Speaker 1>food taster earned his paycheck with that meal. Somebody had

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<v Speaker 1>poisoned the King's meat and wine. The guards sprang into

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<v Speaker 1>action and began searching the royal grounds. By chance, they

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<v Speaker 1>stumbled upon two suspicious peasants who happened to be lurking

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<v Speaker 1>near the kitchens. Two peasants were tortured until they delivered

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<v Speaker 1>a confession, and it was a startling one. Not only

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<v Speaker 1>had they would be assassins poisoned the King's meal, they

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<v Speaker 1>also confessed that they had been hired to do so

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<v Speaker 1>by a former Queen of England, who had promised them

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<v Speaker 1>riches and status in return for their services. The entire

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<v Speaker 1>botched poisoning was a massive success for the French on

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<v Speaker 1>all counts. The French king had avoided death, they had

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<v Speaker 1>caught the villains, and as a bonus, an English queen

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<v Speaker 1>was implicated. That, at least was the story that passed

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<v Speaker 1>around the French court in the summer of twelve forty two.

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<v Speaker 1>The truth of the events probably looked more like this.

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<v Speaker 1>One night in twelve forty two, two peasants were found

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<v Speaker 1>rummaging through King Louis supplies while the king was out

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<v Speaker 1>campaigning against some rebellious barons. These two peasants were most

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<v Speaker 1>likely caught trying to take some food and drink, and

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<v Speaker 1>they were hanged according to martial law. News of local

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<v Speaker 1>thieves somehow transformed, through rumor and storytelling, into news about

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<v Speaker 1>local assassins. Rummaging in the royal stores of mead and

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<v Speaker 1>meat turned into an attempted poisoning, and an otherwise ordinary

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<v Speaker 1>crime turned into a geopolitical plot of the highest order.

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<v Speaker 1>So who was this Queen of England who was so

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<v Speaker 1>reviled that what may very well have just been the

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<v Speaker 1>honest crime of two poor souls evolved into her elaborate

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<v Speaker 1>conspiracy against the French king. If it wasn't already clear,

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<v Speaker 1>Isabelle of ANGLEM Dowager Queen of England was not exactly

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<v Speaker 1>beloved by King Louis the Ninth or court. She was rather,

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<v Speaker 1>as powerful women often are, the perfect candidate for the

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<v Speaker 1>rumor mail. After the supposed assassination attempt, some believed that

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<v Speaker 1>Isabel attempted suicide as the culmination for her life sins.

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<v Speaker 1>Others believed that she fled to a nearby abbey for

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<v Speaker 1>sanctuary from Louis's reprisals. All agreed that she would do

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<v Speaker 1>whatever it took to avoid losing a trial, to hold

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<v Speaker 1>on to whatever crumbs of power she had left after

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<v Speaker 1>decades of losing ground to an aggressive French kingdom. The

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<v Speaker 1>history of the rumor of the attempted poisoning is frankly

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<v Speaker 1>a minuscule part of Isabel's life story, but it illustrates

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<v Speaker 1>the problem with uncovering the historical Isabel quite well. Whatever

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<v Speaker 1>the medieval chronicles say about her is distorted by dynastic

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<v Speaker 1>drama and political biases. They paint her as a scandal

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<v Speaker 1>inducing affair having Jezebel who drove two kingdoms into turmoil,

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<v Speaker 1>first England and then Western France. But if we cut

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<v Speaker 1>through the gossip, what would we actually find a heartless mother,

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<v Speaker 1>or exactly the type of ruthless parents that medieval politics rewarded,

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<v Speaker 1>a cunning and deceitful sorceress, or a dowager queen so

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<v Speaker 1>relentless in her pursuit of freedom from both the English

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<v Speaker 1>and the French that she earned a bad reputation in

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<v Speaker 1>both kingdoms. Isabel tried, but ultimately failed to establish a

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<v Speaker 1>dynasty of her own. But if she hadn't rocked the

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<v Speaker 1>foundations of England and France, why would she ever have

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<v Speaker 1>been worth the elaborate smear campaign in the first place.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the story of a queen turned nun who,

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<v Speaker 1>in trying to play both sides, ended up playing herself,

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<v Speaker 1>a rogue royal who, even when stripped of her titles,

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<v Speaker 1>lands and reputation, refused to stop signing her name as

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<v Speaker 1>Dowager Queen of England. I'm Danish schwartz and this is

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<v Speaker 1>noble blood. In the month of October twelve sixteen, Isabelle

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<v Speaker 1>of Angoulem learned that her husband, the King of England

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<v Speaker 1>and patriarch of the House of Plantagenet, had died. King

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<v Speaker 1>John had spent the past year embroiled in a war

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<v Speaker 1>against his barons, who raised demands in a little treaty

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<v Speaker 1>called the Magna Carta, which John had absolutely no intention

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<v Speaker 1>of accepting. The vain king marched from county to county,

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<v Speaker 1>pillaging as he went along, all the while his wife

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<v Speaker 1>remained confined to a castle in the city of Bristol.

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<v Speaker 1>When she heard the news that dysentery took John, she

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<v Speaker 1>probably felt a weight lift from her shoulders. For context,

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<v Speaker 1>this is the King John, who was the younger brother

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<v Speaker 1>of Richard the Lionheart, the guy who's the villainous Prince

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<v Speaker 1>John in several adaptations of robin Hood. Upon the death

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<v Speaker 1>of his brother Richard, John inherited not only the Kingdom

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<v Speaker 1>of England, but also a vast swathe of territory in

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<v Speaker 1>western France, encompassing Normandy, Brittany, and Aquitaine together called the

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<v Speaker 1>Anchovin Empire. John's queen, Isabel, was originally from the French

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<v Speaker 1>city of Angoulem, part of the land that she was

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<v Speaker 1>technically supposed to inherit from her father account, but Isabel

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<v Speaker 1>never spent much time with her inheritance, owing to the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that she married John when she was only twelve.

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<v Speaker 1>By all accounts, their marriage was considered scandalous from the start.

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<v Speaker 1>In twelve hundred, Isabel was already betrothed to a French count.

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<v Speaker 1>The union of their lands in central and western France

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<v Speaker 1>would have cut off the northern part of John's empire

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<v Speaker 1>in Normandy from the southern part in Aquitaine. As any

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<v Speaker 1>conniving king would do, John made a back room deal

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<v Speaker 1>to cut off Isabel's betrothal to that count, and he

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<v Speaker 1>promptly married the girl himself. From twelve hundred to twelve sixteen,

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<v Speaker 1>Isabel reigned as the Queen of England, but in fact

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<v Speaker 1>she resided in what amounted to a golden cage, let

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<v Speaker 1>out at the whims of her husband. According to the

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<v Speaker 1>terms of their marriage, Isabel was entitled to rents from

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<v Speaker 1>royal estates, but her husband frequently intercepted these funds to

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<v Speaker 1>spend on his own lavish wardrobe. Instead of lodging Isabel

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<v Speaker 1>in her own household as was customary, John thought it

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<v Speaker 1>fit to put her up in the apartments of his

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<v Speaker 1>former wife, the Countess of Gloucester, and then in the

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<v Speaker 1>household of his mistress, the Lady de Neville. Most disturbingly,

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<v Speaker 1>after Isabel bore her first child, Henry, in twelve oh seven,

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<v Speaker 1>the Canterbury chronicles refer to her as being quote in custody.

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<v Speaker 1>A few historians have speculated that Isabel was under some

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<v Speaker 1>kind of house arrest, and this seems corroborated by the

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<v Speaker 1>relative absence of her name among contemporary letters and court records.

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<v Speaker 1>Either way, what's certain is that Isabel's husband humiliated her,

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<v Speaker 1>stole her in, and confined her to a handful of castles.

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<v Speaker 1>At some point in the sixteen years of her English captivity,

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<v Speaker 1>Isabel decided she would no longer take being upawn in

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<v Speaker 1>other people's politics. When her husband died, she may have

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<v Speaker 1>mourned he was, after all, the father of her four children.

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<v Speaker 1>We know that she made three offerings for the salvation

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<v Speaker 1>of her husband's soul in the months that followed, but

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<v Speaker 1>she never again mentioned her husband in any of her

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<v Speaker 1>correspondents for the remaining thirty years of her life. This

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<v Speaker 1>feeling of indifference was probably reciprocal. Considering that John invested

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<v Speaker 1>the care of his heir henry in the hands of

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<v Speaker 1>an esteemed earl and not the boy's own mother, Isabel

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<v Speaker 1>had little to no chance of assuming any power in England.

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<v Speaker 1>She was pushed out of the Regency council and the

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<v Speaker 1>very men that made up that council seemed to have

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<v Speaker 1>purchased a well chartered ship for Isabel to be on

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<v Speaker 1>her merry way off of English shores and back to France.

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<v Speaker 1>Isabel left behind her young sons, Henry and Richard, and

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<v Speaker 1>took only her daughter Joan with her as she set

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<v Speaker 1>sail for the continent. Was it ruthless for a mother

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<v Speaker 1>to have abandoned her children upon the death of their father.

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<v Speaker 1>The medieval chronicles certainly say so, and while they certainly

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<v Speaker 1>overexaggerate Isabel's egomania and irresponsibility, her actions suggest that she was,

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<v Speaker 1>if anything, opportunistic, and her husband's death just so happened

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<v Speaker 1>to present an opportunity to reclaim her inheritance and establish

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<v Speaker 1>her own little kingdom in western France. In the year

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<v Speaker 1>twelve seventeen, Isabel entered the French city of Angoulem to

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<v Speaker 1>great fanfare by the local populace, So much fanfare that

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<v Speaker 1>the mayor of Angoulem even bestowed upon Isabel the keys

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<v Speaker 1>to the city. Only a few years before Isabelle's arrival,

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<v Speaker 1>King John had assigned a group of administrators and barons

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<v Speaker 1>to oversee the county of Angoulem oversee its principal estates

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<v Speaker 1>revenues and defense. Isabel planned to rest political control back

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<v Speaker 1>from her late husband's group, but there would be serious

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<v Speaker 1>obstacles in her path. From twelve seventeen to twelve nineteen,

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<v Speaker 1>those barons launched rebellious campaigns against Isabel's rule. She used

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<v Speaker 1>every ruthless strategy in her playbook to subdue her vassals.

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<v Speaker 1>In one case, she took the two sons of one

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<v Speaker 1>baron hostage until capitulated, a tactic considered so extreme that

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<v Speaker 1>a bishop in a nearby city threatened Isabel with excommunication. Isabel,

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<v Speaker 1>leveraging her prestige as a dowager Queen of England, sent

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<v Speaker 1>a letter to the Pope about her discontent with the

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<v Speaker 1>local bishop, sort of the equivalent of going directly to

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<v Speaker 1>the manager. By twelve eighteen, the Pope wrote back and

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<v Speaker 1>proclaimed that Isabel could not be excommunicated except by a

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<v Speaker 1>direct order from Rome. Isabel used every tool in her

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<v Speaker 1>arsenal to exert control over her inheritance, brute force against

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<v Speaker 1>the barons, ride diplomacy among the bishops, even deceit occasionally

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<v Speaker 1>to win the favor of her powerful children, Isabel needed

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<v Speaker 1>deeper pockets to continue her war against the barons, so

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<v Speaker 1>she sent please for finance shall help to her son

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<v Speaker 1>in England, King Henry the Third. Technically Isabel owned a

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<v Speaker 1>variety of dower estates in England, but Henry's Regency Council

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<v Speaker 1>withheld the income from those estates out of fear that

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<v Speaker 1>Isabel would use them to create her own base of power,

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<v Speaker 1>which was in fact exactly what she was doing. In

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<v Speaker 1>her letters to her son Henry, Isabel persuasively explained that

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<v Speaker 1>her takeover of western France wasn't about personal interest, but

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<v Speaker 1>instead was about maintaining the Anjevin Empire. She blamed the

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<v Speaker 1>barons for collaborating with the King of France, and so

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<v Speaker 1>she needed additional resources to squash their resistance before it

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<v Speaker 1>turned into a crisis. Wouldn't Henry help his poor mother

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<v Speaker 1>as she defended his empire. The letters worked, but even

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<v Speaker 1>with the additional coin, Isabelle had to face the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that she was in a pretty weak position. She was

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<v Speaker 1>sandwiched in between the two massive kingdoms of England and France,

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<v Speaker 1>operating on a paltry budget, and she had even failed

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<v Speaker 1>to fully establish her claim over Angoulem. Her cousin Matilda,

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<v Speaker 1>was also claiming those ancestral lands. Isabelle needed an ally,

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<v Speaker 1>or alternatively a new husband. Back in twelve fourteen, isabel

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<v Speaker 1>had betrothed her baby daughter Joan to a count named

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<v Speaker 1>Hughes of Lusignan, a twenty four year old who ruled

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<v Speaker 1>over the lands just north of Angoulem. The countess had

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<v Speaker 1>originally intended for the powerful Lucignon family to act as

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<v Speaker 1>allies of the English crown, but in twelve twenty, with John,

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<v Speaker 1>King of England dead and Isabelle desperately needing support for

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<v Speaker 1>her own government, she began to see Hughes, her would

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<v Speaker 1>be future son in law in a new light. This

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<v Speaker 1>now thirty year old count was dashing, a bachelor, and

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<v Speaker 1>most important of all, in control of large and wealthy

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<v Speaker 1>estates in some of the most hotly contested French territories.

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<v Speaker 1>Isabelle broke off her daughter's engagement to Hughes and took

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<v Speaker 1>the count for herself. It's also highly likely that the

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<v Speaker 1>two had an affair leading up to the actual exchanging

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<v Speaker 1>of vows, to make matters even more complicated. Before Isabelle

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<v Speaker 1>had married King John of England twenty years earlier, she

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<v Speaker 1>had originally been betrothed to Hugh's father, so in effect,

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<v Speaker 1>the Countess ended up marrying the son of her former

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<v Speaker 1>fiance and the former fiance of her daughter. Messi is

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<v Speaker 1>an understatement, you can imagine what the thanksgivings would have

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<v Speaker 1>been like. Even before this messy second marriage, the chroniclers

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<v Speaker 1>of the day already despised Isabel. They believed her wicked, adulterous,

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<v Speaker 1>and manipulative, the very source of England instability during her

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<v Speaker 1>husband John's reign. In fact, this character portrait has no

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<v Speaker 1>real basis. In reality, we have no evidence to suggest

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<v Speaker 1>that Isabel had any say in matters of her husband's government,

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<v Speaker 1>nor evidence that she had an affair while her husband

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<v Speaker 1>was alive. The chroniclers did not take too kindly to

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<v Speaker 1>her second marriage, seeing it as further proof of her depravity.

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<v Speaker 1>One contemporary historian wrote that news of the marriage quote

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<v Speaker 1>really stimulated conversation. Indeed, rumor got around that Isabel not

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<v Speaker 1>only stole away her own daughter Joan's future prospects, but

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<v Speaker 1>also that she was keeping her daughter captive in order

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<v Speaker 1>to extract a ransom from her son, King Henry the

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<v Speaker 1>Third in England. These accusations eventually made their way to Rome,

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<v Speaker 1>where the Pope furiously wrote to Isabel in twelve twenty

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<v Speaker 1>one that her son had ultimate authority over his sister Joan.

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<v Speaker 1>This in no way deterred Isabel from refusing to send

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<v Speaker 1>her daughter to England. The Regency Council in England retaliated

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<v Speaker 1>by confiscating Isabel's English estates, but when Isabel threatened to

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<v Speaker 1>ally with the French king, the council relented. Of course.

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<v Speaker 1>In letters to King Henry, her son, Isabel pretended all

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<v Speaker 1>of this was in his best interest. Her marriage to

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<v Speaker 1>Hughes was in service of the English crown, As she

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<v Speaker 1>wrote in one letter, God knows we did this more

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<v Speaker 1>for your sake than four hours. It was clear to

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<v Speaker 1>all passers by that Isabel seemed willing to do almost

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<v Speaker 1>anything in her pursuit of dynastic power, or at least

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<v Speaker 1>control over her own lands. Many accounts describe her as vain, glorious,

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<v Speaker 1>or megalomaniacal. She demanded a court befitting a queen, but

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<v Speaker 1>operated on the income of three counties. She always expected

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<v Speaker 1>to be taken seriously as a political actor, even when

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<v Speaker 1>her power waned. At the same time, she learned to

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<v Speaker 1>try her best, and she often succeeded in switching sides

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<v Speaker 1>between the English plantagenets and the French copetions when it

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<v Speaker 1>was convenient for the growth of her own territory. For example,

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<v Speaker 1>when the French King Louis the eighth died prematurely in

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<v Speaker 1>twelve twenty six, Isabel sought an opportunity to win broader

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<v Speaker 1>privileges from the fragile French kingdom, despite the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>she technically owed full fealty to her son Henry in England.

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<v Speaker 1>The King of England was sent into a spiral at

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<v Speaker 1>this betrayal. He refused to send any more of the

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<v Speaker 1>income from his mother's dower land, and no more imploring

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<v Speaker 1>letters from Isabel would ever change his mind. This, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>would pose quite the challenge for Angoulem, as it depended

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<v Speaker 1>so much on English coin. This then, would have been

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<v Speaker 1>the perfect time for Isabel to deepen her relationship with

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<v Speaker 1>the new French king, now that she had all but

0:19:53.160 --> 0:19:57.119
<v Speaker 1>ruined her relationship with her son Henry in England. The

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<v Speaker 1>new king in France, Louis the ninth, was just a

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<v Speaker 1>twelve year old boy when he took the throne, meaning

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<v Speaker 1>most of the kingdom's affairs were vested in the hands

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<v Speaker 1>of his mother and regent, Blanche of Castile, granddaughter of

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<v Speaker 1>Eleanor of Aquitaine and sister to Isabel's late husband, King John.

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<v Speaker 1>Unfortunately for Isabel and her grand designs at her own

0:20:24.280 --> 0:20:29.960
<v Speaker 1>independent kingdom, Blanche, her previous sister in law, would prove

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<v Speaker 1>to be more of a thorn in her backside than

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<v Speaker 1>a stepping stone to power. To begin with, Blanche was

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<v Speaker 1>everything that Isabel was not. Where Isabel's husband, King John

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<v Speaker 1>had refused to invest the future of his heir in

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<v Speaker 1>the hands of his wife Isabel, the old French king

0:20:50.040 --> 0:20:54.280
<v Speaker 1>had entrusted Blante with the full stewardship of young Louis.

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<v Speaker 1>Where Isabel had needed to remarry under scandalous circumstance in

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<v Speaker 1>order to expand and hold her reach, Blanche had been

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<v Speaker 1>able to preserve her widowhood and her reputation, all while

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<v Speaker 1>commanding France's ruling Copetian dynasty. Contemporary accounts usually frame Isabelle

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<v Speaker 1>as selfish and promiscuous and Blanche as sage and chaste,

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<v Speaker 1>though we should be wary about those subjective and highly

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<v Speaker 1>political and totalizing characterizations. Either way, Isabel undoubtedly agonized over

0:21:36.200 --> 0:21:41.040
<v Speaker 1>the Queen consort and what Isabel considered Blanche's wicked brood

0:21:41.200 --> 0:21:46.760
<v Speaker 1>of French princes. Isabelle was by no means impervious to jealousy,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's exactly when she attempted to hurl down Blanche

0:21:52.320 --> 0:22:01.359
<v Speaker 1>that the Countess of Angoulim sealed her own fate. Well

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<v Speaker 1>into the twelve thirties, Isabelle continued signing her letters as

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<v Speaker 1>the Queen of England, despite the fact that she hadn't

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<v Speaker 1>stepped onto English soil for over a decade, and also

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<v Speaker 1>despite the fact that she was taking every measure to

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<v Speaker 1>actively ingratiate herself with France, the full enemies of the

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<v Speaker 1>English crown. In twelve thirty, when Blanche foremented unrest among

0:22:28.440 --> 0:22:33.080
<v Speaker 1>King Henry of England's vassals in Brittany, isabel agreed to

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<v Speaker 1>support Blanche's insurrection on the condition that one of her

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<v Speaker 1>newborn children that she had with her second husband would

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<v Speaker 1>be betrothed to one of Blanche's children. In other words,

0:22:45.680 --> 0:22:50.199
<v Speaker 1>she was siding against her own oldest son, Henry, but

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<v Speaker 1>there would be no better way of securing Isabel's dynasty

0:22:54.359 --> 0:22:57.600
<v Speaker 1>than by using her newest children to mix in with

0:22:57.680 --> 0:23:04.120
<v Speaker 1>the Kapecians. Sick Isabelle fashion, though her tactics changed as

0:23:04.200 --> 0:23:08.760
<v Speaker 1>the winds of opportunity blew from one direction to the other.

0:23:09.520 --> 0:23:14.240
<v Speaker 1>The agreement fell through, and by twelve thirty six, Isabelle

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<v Speaker 1>was convincing the King of Navarre to wage war against

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<v Speaker 1>the French King Louis on a promise of military aid.

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<v Speaker 1>It took no time at all for the French to

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<v Speaker 1>repel that attack, win the pope to their side, and

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<v Speaker 1>disgrace Isabelle and Hughes for their treachery. The following years

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<v Speaker 1>saw Isabelle and Hughes begin to lose their grip on

0:23:39.160 --> 0:23:42.760
<v Speaker 1>the lands of Angoulem and Lucignon in the face of

0:23:42.800 --> 0:23:48.480
<v Speaker 1>a prosperous and well governed French kingdom edging them out.

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<v Speaker 1>Isabelle and her second husband simply didn't have the revenue,

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<v Speaker 1>the military might, or the allies to compete with King

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<v Speaker 1>Louis and his mother Blanche one on one. Isabel's worst

0:24:03.160 --> 0:24:07.720
<v Speaker 1>fears culminated in a nighting ceremony that would go on

0:24:07.880 --> 0:24:12.600
<v Speaker 1>to haunt isabel for the rest of her life. Before

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<v Speaker 1>he died, the late King Louis the Eighth had dictated

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<v Speaker 1>a comprehensive will. Among his stipulations was a decree that

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<v Speaker 1>his and Blanche's son, Alphonse would receive the title to

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<v Speaker 1>the County of Poitier when he came of age. Poitier

0:24:30.960 --> 0:24:35.560
<v Speaker 1>overlapped with much of the territory that was formally controlled

0:24:35.960 --> 0:24:40.120
<v Speaker 1>by Isabel and Hughes at the time of the late

0:24:40.240 --> 0:24:44.320
<v Speaker 1>king's decree, that wasn't much of a problem. The French

0:24:44.440 --> 0:24:47.720
<v Speaker 1>king was distracted with too many other things to really

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<v Speaker 1>focus on consolidating his power in the west. Not to

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<v Speaker 1>mention those western lands were also at the time occupied

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<v Speaker 1>by baron's loyal to the English crown. But by twelve

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<v Speaker 1>forty one, the political landscape was looking a lot worse

0:25:05.680 --> 0:25:11.000
<v Speaker 1>for Isabelle. Prince Alphonse was angling to marry a princess

0:25:11.200 --> 0:25:15.040
<v Speaker 1>from the County of Toulouse, which would threaten to create

0:25:15.080 --> 0:25:19.480
<v Speaker 1>a block of southern territories that could easily all but

0:25:19.680 --> 0:25:24.800
<v Speaker 1>absorb the land that Isabel had worked so tirelessly to

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<v Speaker 1>make independent. A knighting ceremony where she would be expected

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<v Speaker 1>to show fealty to Alphonse would only solidify that horrible

0:25:35.280 --> 0:25:40.359
<v Speaker 1>state of affairs. Needless to say, Isabel went into that

0:25:40.520 --> 0:25:50.720
<v Speaker 1>ceremony looking for trouble. The account we have of Alphonse's

0:25:50.760 --> 0:25:55.159
<v Speaker 1>oath swearing ceremony was told by a baron to Queen Blanch,

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<v Speaker 1>who already hated jealous Isabel. So with that disclaimer, take

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<v Speaker 1>the following events as I described them, with a grain

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<v Speaker 1>of salt. There was a great feast in Poitier to

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<v Speaker 1>celebrate the ceremony, and nobles from all over France streamed

0:26:11.359 --> 0:26:17.000
<v Speaker 1>into the city for a cornucopia of savory meats, courtly games,

0:26:17.119 --> 0:26:22.600
<v Speaker 1>and joyous camaraderie. King Louis, his younger brother Alphonse, and

0:26:22.640 --> 0:26:26.520
<v Speaker 1>their entourage brought all of these festivities into the city,

0:26:26.800 --> 0:26:32.000
<v Speaker 1>where Hughes was obligated to host and entertain his honored

0:26:32.040 --> 0:26:37.200
<v Speaker 1>guests in preparation for the oath swearing. But during the

0:26:37.280 --> 0:26:41.600
<v Speaker 1>actual ceremony there must have been some sort of mistake.

0:26:42.400 --> 0:26:46.480
<v Speaker 1>Isabelle arrived to the oath swearing finding that Queen Blanche

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<v Speaker 1>and several French countesses all had seats, while Isabelle, the

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<v Speaker 1>Countess of Agoulem, and must she remind you, Dowager Queen

0:26:56.640 --> 0:27:02.360
<v Speaker 1>of England, was somehow expected to stay. And the indecency

0:27:02.520 --> 0:27:07.520
<v Speaker 1>outraged isabel so much that she apparently tore down the

0:27:07.640 --> 0:27:12.720
<v Speaker 1>tapestries hanging over Hugh's throne, packed up the fine dinnerware,

0:27:13.040 --> 0:27:17.359
<v Speaker 1>and even removed quote image of the Blessed Mary, along

0:27:17.440 --> 0:27:20.920
<v Speaker 1>with the altar cloth and all the ornaments from the chapel.

0:27:22.080 --> 0:27:25.840
<v Speaker 1>Isabel took everything fifty miles away to her own castle

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<v Speaker 1>in Angoulem, in a fit of rage that could only

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<v Speaker 1>have been meant to signal her anger at her husband, Hughes,

0:27:33.280 --> 0:27:36.720
<v Speaker 1>who she blamed for failing to stand his ground in

0:27:36.760 --> 0:27:43.200
<v Speaker 1>the face of their combined enemy. Hughes, understandably embarrassed, finished

0:27:43.280 --> 0:27:46.840
<v Speaker 1>up the oath swearing, and then rushed off to confront Isabel,

0:27:47.280 --> 0:27:51.480
<v Speaker 1>at which point she immediately scolded him, get away, get

0:27:51.520 --> 0:27:54.440
<v Speaker 1>out of my sight. You are viler and baser than

0:27:54.480 --> 0:27:58.480
<v Speaker 1>anybody else, and a reproach to everyone you've honored, the

0:27:58.640 --> 0:28:02.479
<v Speaker 1>very people who disenhaet you. I'll never look at you again.

0:28:03.400 --> 0:28:07.880
<v Speaker 1>Isabel refused to see her husband Hughes for three days, and,

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<v Speaker 1>according to the writer of the letter that gives us

0:28:11.400 --> 0:28:15.959
<v Speaker 1>that quote, what finally spurred Hughes to action was his

0:28:16.040 --> 0:28:20.639
<v Speaker 1>wife's insistence that she wouldn't bed him until he rebelled

0:28:20.800 --> 0:28:26.520
<v Speaker 1>against Queen Blanche. That most certainly is apocryphal, and it's

0:28:26.560 --> 0:28:30.679
<v Speaker 1>worth noting that this detail both confirmed popular perceptions of

0:28:30.760 --> 0:28:36.240
<v Speaker 1>Hughes as meek and Isabel as manipulative, exactly the sort

0:28:36.280 --> 0:28:39.960
<v Speaker 1>of gossip that Blanche and the French court would have relished.

0:28:40.680 --> 0:28:44.840
<v Speaker 1>What isn't apocryphal is that isabel played a major role

0:28:45.400 --> 0:28:50.920
<v Speaker 1>in convincing Hughes to organize a rebellion against the French crown.

0:28:51.760 --> 0:28:57.479
<v Speaker 1>It may have been symbolically sparked by Blanche's disrespect at court,

0:28:58.080 --> 0:29:01.960
<v Speaker 1>but it was actually Isabelle's life, last ditch effort to

0:29:02.120 --> 0:29:07.880
<v Speaker 1>exert control over her inheritance. Hughes and Isabel managed to

0:29:07.920 --> 0:29:11.680
<v Speaker 1>recruit the Count of Toulouse as an ally, and they

0:29:11.760 --> 0:29:16.000
<v Speaker 1>mustered every noble in the North that already resented Louis.

0:29:16.680 --> 0:29:20.480
<v Speaker 1>In a familiar turn of events, Isabel reached out to

0:29:20.520 --> 0:29:23.600
<v Speaker 1>the only person who wanted to see the ruin of

0:29:23.680 --> 0:29:28.080
<v Speaker 1>the French more than she did. Her son. Henry, the

0:29:28.160 --> 0:29:31.840
<v Speaker 1>King of England, looked past his rocky relationship with his

0:29:31.880 --> 0:29:36.520
<v Speaker 1>mother in the face of this opportunity, and he gathered

0:29:36.600 --> 0:29:40.640
<v Speaker 1>funding in late twelve forty one and early twelve forty

0:29:40.640 --> 0:29:46.520
<v Speaker 1>two for an army. One chronicle relates the encounter between

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<v Speaker 1>King Henry and his mother Isabel. When they finally met

0:29:50.880 --> 0:29:57.440
<v Speaker 1>in France after decades of mutual vitriol apart, Isabel tenderly

0:29:57.600 --> 0:30:02.040
<v Speaker 1>kissed her first born and in the sweetest tone, said

0:30:02.080 --> 0:30:05.560
<v Speaker 1>to him, dear son, you have such a good character

0:30:06.200 --> 0:30:09.800
<v Speaker 1>to help your mother and your brothers, whom the sons

0:30:09.840 --> 0:30:14.040
<v Speaker 1>of Blanche of Spain want so wickedly to crush and

0:30:14.280 --> 0:30:22.760
<v Speaker 1>keep under their feet. Tender maternal words. Notwithstanding, the invasion

0:30:22.840 --> 0:30:25.920
<v Speaker 1>fell apart as soon as it began. The Count of

0:30:25.960 --> 0:30:30.040
<v Speaker 1>Toulouse pulled his support. Henry wasn't able to raise a

0:30:30.080 --> 0:30:34.280
<v Speaker 1>force large enough to compete with King Louis, and even

0:30:34.480 --> 0:30:39.120
<v Speaker 1>Hughes only halfheartedly went about the whole rebellion thing, maybe

0:30:39.160 --> 0:30:42.800
<v Speaker 1>hoping for an escape plan just in case. When the

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<v Speaker 1>French and English armies met at Talburg in July twelve

0:30:46.680 --> 0:30:52.000
<v Speaker 1>forty two, a French cavalry charge decimated the English forces.

0:30:52.680 --> 0:30:56.760
<v Speaker 1>King Louis handed Henry a defeat so horrendous that the

0:30:56.800 --> 0:31:00.400
<v Speaker 1>English king would have been captured had it not been

0:31:00.400 --> 0:31:07.400
<v Speaker 1>for the diplomatic intervention of Henry's brother Richard. Hughes switched sides,

0:31:07.560 --> 0:31:10.720
<v Speaker 1>to the chagrin of his wife. In less than a

0:31:10.760 --> 0:31:15.719
<v Speaker 1>week of fighting. According to a popular myth, one that

0:31:15.760 --> 0:31:21.040
<v Speaker 1>we can't verify or completely disprove, Isabel made a last

0:31:21.360 --> 0:31:26.360
<v Speaker 1>stand by hiring out two serfs to poison the French king.

0:31:27.320 --> 0:31:32.600
<v Speaker 1>Promised vast estates and noble titles. The two paupers managed

0:31:32.640 --> 0:31:36.320
<v Speaker 1>to poison the meat and drink of Louis and Alphonse,

0:31:36.880 --> 0:31:40.280
<v Speaker 1>but as we know, they were caught in the act

0:31:40.440 --> 0:31:46.040
<v Speaker 1>and hanged for their treason. One rumor circulating claimed that

0:31:46.160 --> 0:31:50.520
<v Speaker 1>isabel tried and failed to commit suicide when she heard

0:31:50.640 --> 0:31:55.280
<v Speaker 1>the news of the serf's hangings. Another source says that

0:31:55.360 --> 0:32:01.040
<v Speaker 1>she broke down beyond consolation. As punishment for their betrayal,

0:32:01.560 --> 0:32:06.680
<v Speaker 1>King Louis forced Isabelle and Hughes to finance three French

0:32:06.800 --> 0:32:12.360
<v Speaker 1>garrisons in their own territories. He also took Isabelle's titles

0:32:12.760 --> 0:32:16.080
<v Speaker 1>and cut her off from any pensions the French crown

0:32:16.520 --> 0:32:20.400
<v Speaker 1>may have allotted her in the past. Isabel and Hughes

0:32:20.640 --> 0:32:24.959
<v Speaker 1>signed a joint charter to dissolve and disseminate their holdings

0:32:25.400 --> 0:32:31.080
<v Speaker 1>across their nine children in medieval royal customs that effectively

0:32:31.120 --> 0:32:37.800
<v Speaker 1>amounted to a divorce. Twenty years of scheming building maneuvering

0:32:37.960 --> 0:32:43.440
<v Speaker 1>and fighting all gone to waste. Isabel, at fifty three

0:32:43.560 --> 0:32:47.640
<v Speaker 1>years old, was almost exactly where she had started when

0:32:47.680 --> 0:32:51.760
<v Speaker 1>she left England as a widow at twenty five, cut

0:32:51.800 --> 0:32:55.800
<v Speaker 1>off from the royal family and without a state of

0:32:55.840 --> 0:33:03.000
<v Speaker 1>her own. Contemporary chronicles regularly depict Isabel as a heartless

0:33:03.040 --> 0:33:07.640
<v Speaker 1>mother and an unfaithful wife. Many of these chronicles were

0:33:07.680 --> 0:33:12.000
<v Speaker 1>themselves written from the perspective of the French monarchy, so

0:33:12.040 --> 0:33:16.640
<v Speaker 1>we'd be right to question their characterizations. Certainly, Isabel is

0:33:16.720 --> 0:33:20.320
<v Speaker 1>the villain of the story. From that perspective, There's no

0:33:20.480 --> 0:33:25.120
<v Speaker 1>doubt that Isabel had grand ambitions and took extreme measures,

0:33:25.640 --> 0:33:29.320
<v Speaker 1>going so far as to side against her children to

0:33:29.440 --> 0:33:32.800
<v Speaker 1>get what she wanted. But at the end of the day,

0:33:33.000 --> 0:33:39.680
<v Speaker 1>she was a fairly intelligent political schemer and a competent administrator, who,

0:33:40.320 --> 0:33:44.600
<v Speaker 1>like all members of the aristocracy, angled to conserve her

0:33:44.760 --> 0:33:48.800
<v Speaker 1>estates and increase her own lavish income. She may have

0:33:48.920 --> 0:33:52.000
<v Speaker 1>flown to close to the sun by the end, but

0:33:52.120 --> 0:33:55.480
<v Speaker 1>twenty years of playing the English and French off one

0:33:55.520 --> 0:34:00.320
<v Speaker 1>another was no simple task. One cannot tell a full

0:34:00.440 --> 0:34:04.400
<v Speaker 1>story of the Countess of Angoulem without at least giving

0:34:04.440 --> 0:34:09.160
<v Speaker 1>her that Hughes was the laughing stock of the French

0:34:09.239 --> 0:34:12.799
<v Speaker 1>nobility for the rest of his life. In time, his

0:34:12.920 --> 0:34:17.319
<v Speaker 1>reputation improved a little, especially as he died on a

0:34:17.400 --> 0:34:20.839
<v Speaker 1>crusade to the Holy Lands in an act of political

0:34:20.920 --> 0:34:25.840
<v Speaker 1>and spiritual penance. Isabel also found her own way to

0:34:25.920 --> 0:34:31.080
<v Speaker 1>God in the final years of her life. Disgraced and despairing,

0:34:31.520 --> 0:34:34.920
<v Speaker 1>she retreated to the abbey of Fontreval and took holy

0:34:35.200 --> 0:34:40.680
<v Speaker 1>orders in twelve forty three. Right before her death in

0:34:40.760 --> 0:34:45.120
<v Speaker 1>twelve forty six, Isabel wrote a final plea, this time

0:34:45.120 --> 0:34:48.399
<v Speaker 1>to the French King, begging him to look after her

0:34:48.480 --> 0:34:51.680
<v Speaker 1>children that she had with Hughes, to ensure that they

0:34:51.760 --> 0:34:56.240
<v Speaker 1>would receive their fair share of her inheritance. This letter

0:34:56.560 --> 0:35:00.680
<v Speaker 1>was completely unlike every other that she wrote in her lifetime.

0:35:01.200 --> 0:35:05.800
<v Speaker 1>The parchment is of inferior quality. It phrays at the edges.

0:35:06.400 --> 0:35:09.640
<v Speaker 1>In it, she begs not from a position of high court,

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<v Speaker 1>but from the lowly chambers of a nun's scriptorium. Yet

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<v Speaker 1>still at the bottom of the page her same old

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<v Speaker 1>signature Isabelle, Queen of England. That's the complicated story of

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<v Speaker 1>Isabelle of Angoulem. But keep listening. After a sponsor break

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<v Speaker 1>to hear a little bit more about her family legacy.

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<v Speaker 1>Isabel ordered that she'd be buried in the common plots

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<v Speaker 1>outside the Abbey of Fonteiveau when she died. These plots

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<v Speaker 1>were reserved for the brothers and sisters of the Order,

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<v Speaker 1>never ever for a noble let alone a member of

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<v Speaker 1>the Plantagenet royal family. The abbey itself had deep ancestral

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<v Speaker 1>ties to the Duchy of Aquitaine and the English royal family.

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<v Speaker 1>Eleanor of Aquitaine, who was Isabel's mother in law, had

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<v Speaker 1>patronized the abbey for over sixty years, funding a massive

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<v Speaker 1>octagonal kitchen with multiple fireplaces. The abbey would also serve

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<v Speaker 1>as Eleanor's base of power for the latter half of

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<v Speaker 1>her life, and it was an ideal accommodation for anyone

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<v Speaker 1>loosely affiliated with the royal family. While Isabel carried out

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<v Speaker 1>penance by taking the veil, she most definitely lived with

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<v Speaker 1>some degree of luxury at the end of her life.

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<v Speaker 1>Being buried in the common plots, however, was too extreme

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<v Speaker 1>an act of penance. When Isabel's son Henry visited the

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<v Speaker 1>abbey in twelve fifty four and learned about his mother's

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<v Speaker 1>unceremonious burial, he ordered her reinterment in the abbey itself,

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<v Speaker 1>next to the remains of Henry the Second and Eleanor

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<v Speaker 1>of Aquitaine. In another act of grace towards the memory

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<v Speaker 1>of his mother, Henry the third invited the five sons

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<v Speaker 1>of Isabel's second marriage to England, understanding that their options

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<v Speaker 1>in France were limited by the poor reputation of their parents.

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<v Speaker 1>If you went to the abbey today, located near the

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<v Speaker 1>French city of chinand you'd find a bust of Isabel

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<v Speaker 1>situated atop what looked like a tomb, but her remains

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<v Speaker 1>aren't there. During the French Revolution, after the nascent government

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<v Speaker 1>of the Third Estate declared all monasteries property of the nation,

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<v Speaker 1>radicals exhumed Isabel's bum bones in addition to the bones

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<v Speaker 1>of Henry and Eleanor, and scattered them across the fields outside,

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<v Speaker 1>never to be recovered. Noble Blood is a production of

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<v Speaker 1>iHeartRadio and Grim and Mild from Aaron Manky. Noble Blood

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<v Speaker 1>is created and hosted by me Dana Schwartz, with additional

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<v Speaker 1>writing and researching by Hannah Johnston, Hanna Zwick, Mira Hayward,

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<v Speaker 1>Courtney Sender, and Lori Goodman. The show is edited and

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<v Speaker 1>producer Josh Sayin and executive producers Aaron Manke, Alex Williams,

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