WEBVTT - Hard Knocks recap & NFC Preview 0:00:01.400 --> 0:00:07.800 Be Around the NFL Podcast. Can't fight this feeling anymore. 0:00:08.440 --> 0:00:11.200 Welcome back to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast. 0:00:11.280 --> 0:00:13.319 My name is Dan Hanzas and I am joined by 0:00:13.320 --> 0:00:17.000 a room filled with heroes, Mark Sessler, Chris Westling and 0:00:17.079 --> 0:00:21.400 Greg Rostal. What is up, boys? Dam are you a speedwagon? 0:00:21.440 --> 0:00:23.760 West That must be bringing you back to your days 0:00:23.800 --> 0:00:26.480 at the old Junior High. Now that was way before 0:00:26.560 --> 0:00:29.440 my junior Huh. What was Matt money Smith have to 0:00:29.480 --> 0:00:31.160 do to get a laugh for a smile out of 0:00:31.200 --> 0:00:32.800 you two guys in the morning. I mean he's out 0:00:32.800 --> 0:00:36.080 there bearing his soul the old constern Nation corner over here. Hey, look, 0:00:36.120 --> 0:00:38.159 I'm not gonna do some fake smile. Who do you 0:00:38.159 --> 0:00:40.440 think I am? Cam Newton in the pre draft process? 0:00:40.680 --> 0:00:45.360 Whoa mcginha um not laugh when I feel like it? 0:00:45.600 --> 0:00:49.640 I wait, that was Nolan the Rocky. Yeah, Nolan Nolan Rocky, 0:00:49.720 --> 0:00:52.479 the most hated man on the Internet. Welcome to the 0:00:52.680 --> 0:00:55.840 Around the NFL Podcast. You know we are getting close, gentlemen. 0:00:55.880 --> 0:00:59.440 It is Wednesday, September two at the time of taping, 0:01:00.440 --> 0:01:04.399 eight days away from football that matters, and you know 0:01:04.840 --> 0:01:08.960 that it's getting serious when Greg gets a hair cut 0:01:09.680 --> 0:01:11.720 did you get it from the makeup room or did 0:01:11.760 --> 0:01:16.360 you actually pay for it? I paid for this one night. Yeah, 0:01:16.440 --> 0:01:18.560 my boy, Camille, we've alread you know. I didn't have 0:01:18.600 --> 0:01:21.480 a word of conversation between us the whole time. I 0:01:21.480 --> 0:01:23.400 didn't even do you when you go there, do you 0:01:23.480 --> 0:01:25.480 tell them him what to do? You just sit down 0:01:25.480 --> 0:01:28.720 and he cuts your hair. I pointed a picture of 0:01:28.720 --> 0:01:31.160 one of like he cut what Camille does. Camille is 0:01:31.160 --> 0:01:34.120 a barber on Spaulda here in Culver City that many 0:01:34.160 --> 0:01:38.400 of us use. We point he has he cuts pictures 0:01:38.400 --> 0:01:41.680 out of magazines and paste them money and then sometimes 0:01:41.720 --> 0:01:44.200 like he if you don't say anything, he'll give you 0:01:44.240 --> 0:01:47.120 the regular Sure, But like I like to point out 0:01:47.160 --> 0:01:49.040 one of the one, one of the hotties on the 0:01:49.040 --> 0:01:52.720 mirror and say something like that's okay, Yeah, hey there's 0:01:52.800 --> 0:01:57.760 Josh Hartenn. Let's get hire. I like hard from the 0:01:57.800 --> 0:02:00.280 set of Pearl Harbor. I like not having to talk 0:02:00.400 --> 0:02:02.760 to Lar at all. Oh, I love it. I don't 0:02:02.760 --> 0:02:04.520 like the pressure of oh, how are you doing? What's 0:02:04.560 --> 0:02:06.600 I don't They don't care, and I don't care. I 0:02:06.640 --> 0:02:10.200 might care, but generally why I don't go That's why 0:02:10.240 --> 0:02:13.000 I go back there instead of your brotastic place where 0:02:13.080 --> 0:02:16.120 they like serve you a drink and this phony nonsense 0:02:16.440 --> 0:02:19.240 with some guy, I mean, Kamil and I were on 0:02:19.280 --> 0:02:21.640 the same way and like play a little classical music 0:02:22.280 --> 0:02:24.600 hymns in the background. Something you should listen to the 0:02:24.639 --> 0:02:26.800 boss who just show some respect, because you wouldn't even 0:02:26.840 --> 0:02:29.080 know about Camille if not for me. I did try 0:02:29.080 --> 0:02:31.680 out another one of those like fancy places that give 0:02:31.680 --> 0:02:34.240 you a drink. But then I really that was it 0:02:34.320 --> 0:02:37.280 was like a hipster from you know, Echo Park talking 0:02:37.280 --> 0:02:39.080 to me too much, and I was like enough of this, 0:02:39.160 --> 0:02:41.560 and I went back to Camille. Keeps it tight. Life 0:02:41.600 --> 0:02:44.120 too short for hipster haircuts exactly all right, right, we 0:02:44.240 --> 0:02:46.560 can get his hair cut over there at the makeup room. 0:02:46.639 --> 0:02:49.919 But there was some drama. Maurice Jones Drew was badgering 0:02:50.000 --> 0:02:52.640 Greg about not loving football enough. Well he he was 0:02:52.680 --> 0:02:55.720 just saying, in general, this entire news organization needs to 0:02:55.760 --> 0:02:57.720 love football a little more. So I stuck up for 0:02:57.960 --> 0:03:01.160 you know, us as as footballs and lovers, and said, 0:03:01.480 --> 0:03:03.560 you know you can't don't come to us. He asked, 0:03:03.600 --> 0:03:05.519 at one time, how you learned about football? Was it 0:03:05.639 --> 0:03:09.440 like somebody being taught math and science. But that is 0:03:09.760 --> 0:03:11.920 I mean, we didn't play. Most of us for many years, 0:03:12.200 --> 0:03:14.080 some of some of us played. The three of you 0:03:14.120 --> 0:03:16.560 didn't play, does it I mean, do you feel more 0:03:16.639 --> 0:03:20.360 qualified haven't played backup center? I think it shows you know, 0:03:20.360 --> 0:03:22.120 you've been in a puddle, you've been to the pressure 0:03:22.120 --> 0:03:23.720 of a two minute Sure, I don't see that showing 0:03:23.800 --> 0:03:27.519 up in your analysis to open. Well, that's poor analysis 0:03:27.600 --> 0:03:29.520 on your part. We need to get m J. D 0:03:29.680 --> 0:03:31.520 in here at some point because he has brought a 0:03:31.520 --> 0:03:36.560 little energy to the NFL media. Conglomerate Mark Rees yesterday 0:03:36.880 --> 0:03:39.920 he ducked his head into the newsroom and said what well, 0:03:39.920 --> 0:03:44.119 he came around grilling various you know, like bewildered figures 0:03:44.120 --> 0:03:46.320 with a camera behind him, like your favorite team can 0:03:46.360 --> 0:03:47.920 go the Super Bowl. And then he came to Dan 0:03:47.960 --> 0:03:50.200 and I and he got very tough on us about 0:03:50.240 --> 0:03:52.440 the Browns and the Jets. Right, but then but then 0:03:52.480 --> 0:03:54.880 after he walked away, then he as he was leaving, 0:03:54.880 --> 0:03:57.400 he announced the ping pong tournament for the entire news 0:03:57.480 --> 0:03:59.000 room and we better be good if we want to 0:03:59.000 --> 0:04:01.400 play with him. Apparently so he means business. That's that's 0:04:01.480 --> 0:04:03.760 my kind of party. So that's what's happening. He's on 0:04:03.800 --> 0:04:06.280 your list, though he wants Ray Farmer fired immediately, if 0:04:06.280 --> 0:04:08.760 not sooner sooner. That doesn't get on my list. I 0:04:08.800 --> 0:04:10.680 just I want to hear about his analysis when he 0:04:10.720 --> 0:04:13.800 says that it feels kind of warmed over, have a 0:04:13.880 --> 0:04:16.200 chat about it. So here we go, big show today, 0:04:16.200 --> 0:04:18.080 coming up, eight days away from the start of the 0:04:18.080 --> 0:04:24.760 regular season. We're gonna hit our NFC preview, division by division, 0:04:24.800 --> 0:04:28.719 team by team. We're gonna hit um All sixteen on Friday, 0:04:28.720 --> 0:04:30.919 will will turn our attention to the a FC, but 0:04:30.960 --> 0:04:35.839 today is the National Football Conference. We're going to uh. 0:04:36.080 --> 0:04:39.320 Then pick our division winners as part of this exercise 0:04:39.800 --> 0:04:44.720 and our wild card teams. We'll also we're gonna check 0:04:44.720 --> 0:04:47.640 in on the latest episode of Hard Knocks, the penultimate 0:04:47.839 --> 0:04:51.279 episode of Hard Knocks Season ten with the Houston Texans. 0:04:51.279 --> 0:04:54.840 Another entertaining show. Uh and then we will do some 0:04:54.880 --> 0:04:57.599 news as we always do. So that I mean that 0:04:57.720 --> 0:05:01.440 feels like a good show. It's stack stack show, and 0:05:01.560 --> 0:05:04.400 every show from now until Thursday will be stacked. We 0:05:04.440 --> 0:05:06.560 have so much good stuff to get to. This is 0:05:06.560 --> 0:05:08.799 the fun stuff. This is why you lift all them weights. 0:05:11.120 --> 0:05:14.359 That was Gandhi. That's his quote. All right, before we 0:05:14.400 --> 0:05:16.520 get to the news, We'll check now behind the glass. 0:05:17.120 --> 0:05:19.200 He is a man, he has a headset. We don't 0:05:19.440 --> 0:05:21.880 his name is TD. What is going on, guys. I 0:05:21.920 --> 0:05:23.320 love the idea of m j D is and you 0:05:23.440 --> 0:05:26.039 around the NFL villain. I like that. I don't know, 0:05:27.320 --> 0:05:29.960 playing him as a villain, you always immediately get negative. 0:05:29.960 --> 0:05:32.520 That's what he was speaking against. I'm sorry. I love heat. 0:05:32.800 --> 0:05:34.440 Oh so you and I, all of you, guys, we 0:05:34.480 --> 0:05:37.840 have very different barbershop experiences. Clearly, what's going on? What's 0:05:37.880 --> 0:05:43.080 your shop experience? Man? Talk about what's movies? That's cultural? 0:05:43.360 --> 0:05:47.240 You know, you can talk to that about you know. 0:05:48.600 --> 0:05:51.520 H m j D is kind of like a worthy foil. 0:05:51.880 --> 0:05:53.240 I look at him that way. He'll be a fun 0:05:53.279 --> 0:05:55.440 guy to mix it up with. Let's get him in here. 0:05:55.520 --> 0:05:59.719 Let's this some news. That's two sacks trim in the quarterback, 0:06:03.880 --> 0:06:06.920 the great Bully Brian Cushing right there from Hard Knocks 0:06:07.279 --> 0:06:10.119 Episode two. Kush grew up in Park Ridge, New Jersey, 0:06:10.120 --> 0:06:12.120 by the way, right over the border from Pearl River, 0:06:12.160 --> 0:06:16.279 New York, the old Zeuser's hometown. I kind of do 0:06:16.440 --> 0:06:21.440 there is that sort of New Yorky, you know, and 0:06:22.600 --> 0:06:26.360 you spell better than he does. All right, let's just loose. 0:06:26.400 --> 0:06:29.120 We'll start with the Jacksonville Jaguars. You know, not, not 0:06:29.240 --> 0:06:32.800 often did the Jacksonville Jaguars lead our news, so it's 0:06:32.880 --> 0:06:36.040 usually not a good thing. Julius Thomas there, high priced 0:06:36.080 --> 0:06:38.560 tight end. They signed to a huge deal Uh in 0:06:38.640 --> 0:06:41.640 the off season to really lift their offense to a 0:06:41.680 --> 0:06:44.279 different level. We knew that he had this finger issue. 0:06:44.400 --> 0:06:46.359 He hurt himself in the first game of the preseason. 0:06:46.400 --> 0:06:48.880 It's gonna cost him a significant amount of time, about 0:06:48.920 --> 0:06:52.520 a month. He's gonna need surgery. After having a second 0:06:52.520 --> 0:06:57.520 consultation with a doctor on Tuesday, Mark Sessler Uh out 0:06:57.520 --> 0:07:00.880 of the picture. How big a setback is for Blake Bortles, 0:07:00.880 --> 0:07:03.440 who needs weapons to grow in year two. I think 0:07:03.480 --> 0:07:05.320 it's a big setback out of the gate. I mean, 0:07:05.360 --> 0:07:08.720 we we've seen another nice preseason from Blake Bortles. He's grown, 0:07:09.080 --> 0:07:12.440 and they went out and got Julius Thomas to be 0:07:12.560 --> 0:07:14.720 his go to target, a friendly tight end that he 0:07:14.720 --> 0:07:16.600 can use. I look at this team and the bad 0:07:16.680 --> 0:07:18.760 luck that happens to teams that can't get out of 0:07:18.800 --> 0:07:21.040 the basement. You know, you look back and what happened 0:07:21.080 --> 0:07:24.360 with Justin Blackman. Imagine an offense where Blake Bortles comes 0:07:24.360 --> 0:07:28.000 in and this season you've got Justin Blackman and Julius Thomas. Instead, 0:07:28.040 --> 0:07:30.800 you've got neither. Allen Robinson's probably your number one. Marquise 0:07:30.880 --> 0:07:33.280 Lee hasn't even seen the field yet. Yeah, the O 0:07:33.440 --> 0:07:37.680 C of the Jaguars called uh called him a albino 0:07:37.800 --> 0:07:41.400 tiger Marquis Lee because he's a guy that if you're lucky, 0:07:41.400 --> 0:07:42.960 when you go to the zoo, you see him peek 0:07:43.000 --> 0:07:44.880 out of the cave. But a lot of times he's 0:07:44.880 --> 0:07:46.200 not going to be there. So you just you have 0:07:46.240 --> 0:07:50.160 to get some people like that in our newsroom. It's 0:07:50.160 --> 0:07:52.400 been a brutal off season for the Jaguars. They lose 0:07:52.760 --> 0:07:54.400 the number three pick in the draft on they foul 0:07:54.400 --> 0:07:55.920 here and they lose Julius Thomas. I mean, those are 0:07:55.920 --> 0:07:58.280 the two guys, along with Bordles, that the fans are 0:07:58.320 --> 0:08:01.400 probably most excited about. And you mentioned Borders looking good. 0:08:01.400 --> 0:08:03.880 He's Mr August at this point, he's proven he can 0:08:03.920 --> 0:08:06.400 take care of the preseam. He looked great again. But 0:08:06.560 --> 0:08:08.960 now now I'm looking forward to all Right, so here's 0:08:08.960 --> 0:08:12.040 some good news. Jaguars fans, your owner announced that you'll 0:08:12.080 --> 0:08:15.160 be playing games in London through two thousand thirty, potentially 0:08:15.480 --> 0:08:22.080 get excited. Not really. Why don't you call Julius Thomas friendly? 0:08:22.120 --> 0:08:26.000 By the way, why is he a friend? Quarterback? Has 0:08:26.080 --> 0:08:29.600 their like go to targets tight and play that role. Yeah. 0:08:29.600 --> 0:08:32.679 Security Florida Florida Times Union called Julius Thomas the best 0:08:32.720 --> 0:08:35.960 player on the field and nobody's even close in training game. 0:08:36.559 --> 0:08:39.160 When I hear friendly, I think personality and or there's 0:08:39.160 --> 0:08:42.240 someone that's approachable. It's about looking at things from more 0:08:42.240 --> 0:08:44.520 than one layer down. They can't do that. That's the 0:08:44.559 --> 0:08:46.320 issue that where we run into here, you can't do it. 0:08:46.840 --> 0:08:50.120 Let's hit some a little cuts, run down. There's a 0:08:50.120 --> 0:08:52.120 lot of cuts going on right now. They're cutting down 0:08:52.120 --> 0:08:55.760 the rosters. Greg help me. That is right, that's already 0:08:55.800 --> 0:08:57.960 held it. And then it gets down to fifty three 0:08:58.080 --> 0:09:00.760 by Saturday afternoon, and men, any of us will be 0:09:00.840 --> 0:09:04.199 on typing away on Saturday and get excited. Yeah, I 0:09:04.280 --> 0:09:08.760 can't wait. Trent Richardson, Mark Sessler, Uh, you know, let's 0:09:08.760 --> 0:09:11.240 talk about it. Let's get right to it. Oakland Raiders 0:09:11.240 --> 0:09:14.160 signed Trent Richardson to a two year deal in March 0:09:14.200 --> 0:09:17.640 gave him six undergrand and guaranteed money. Uh he has 0:09:17.679 --> 0:09:20.720 been released. He was among the first cutdowns by the 0:09:20.720 --> 0:09:24.280 team after doing nothing in three games, three preseason games, 0:09:24.280 --> 0:09:26.559 showing none of the births that made him, once upon 0:09:26.600 --> 0:09:29.439 a time the number three overall picked by your Browns 0:09:29.440 --> 0:09:33.640 and the two thousand twelve draft. Um. First off, let's 0:09:33.679 --> 0:09:35.920 start with Greg here. Your thoughts on Richardson? Are we 0:09:35.960 --> 0:09:37.720 going to see him again in the NFL? Well, the 0:09:37.760 --> 0:09:40.320 most amazing thing about this is that not that he 0:09:40.360 --> 0:09:42.160 didn't make the team, he was on our list of 0:09:42.160 --> 0:09:44.120 possible cuts, but that he didn't make it to the 0:09:44.120 --> 0:09:46.480 fifty three man cut down. That he is one of 0:09:46.640 --> 0:09:49.040 He's not even one of those guys that's close to 0:09:49.160 --> 0:09:52.000 making the team, whereas guys like Taiwan Jones, who's not 0:09:52.040 --> 0:09:55.560 a natural running back, Michael Dyer, George Atkinson, those are 0:09:55.559 --> 0:09:57.600 all guys that are still on the roster and did 0:09:57.600 --> 0:09:59.559 make that first cut down. Here's the rest of Pete 0:09:59.600 --> 0:10:01.320 getting cut. By the way, as a running back in 0:10:01.320 --> 0:10:04.400 the NFL average less than three yards to carry in 0:10:05.160 --> 0:10:08.280 multiple carries in the preseason, and don't play special teams, 0:10:08.440 --> 0:10:10.240 there's no there's no need for you. You You don't have 0:10:10.280 --> 0:10:13.840 a role. The three best transactions involving Trent Richardson are 0:10:13.960 --> 0:10:16.400 are Cleveland trading him for a first round pick, the 0:10:16.440 --> 0:10:20.040 Colts finally realizing he's out, and then the Raiders forget 0:10:20.040 --> 0:10:22.000 the guaranteed money. When you're that bad, you gotta go, 0:10:22.120 --> 0:10:24.360 And and every other running back on the roster has 0:10:24.360 --> 0:10:27.120 shown more than Richardson, and at some point the experiment 0:10:27.200 --> 0:10:29.400 is up and it's it might be now what went wrong? 0:10:29.960 --> 0:10:34.040 The entire football industry whipped on this guy. Guys respected 0:10:34.080 --> 0:10:36.800 an analyst like Mike Mayock and Greg Cosell called him 0:10:37.120 --> 0:10:38.920 in the draft the number one player in the draft 0:10:39.000 --> 0:10:42.560 and the best running back since Adrian Peterson. Somebody like 0:10:42.640 --> 0:10:45.959 Ryan Griggson's when he trades for him, a respected scout says, 0:10:46.080 --> 0:10:48.200 you know, this is a great trade. I have no 0:10:48.280 --> 0:10:51.480 qualms about it. He's gonna be awesome. And Jay Glazer 0:10:51.520 --> 0:10:53.680 at the time of the draft called Trent this is 0:10:53.679 --> 0:10:56.080 the most bizarre thing to me. Called Trent Richardson the 0:10:56.120 --> 0:10:58.480 most impressive human being I've met in the past two 0:10:58.559 --> 0:11:02.480 draft classes. And there's nothing like There's nothing about Trent 0:11:02.600 --> 0:11:04.959 Richardson's that seems impressive as a human being. The last 0:11:04.960 --> 0:11:08.280 few years, he seems like he has no driving, investing 0:11:08.280 --> 0:11:11.440 in Glazers, tybo classes or something. I don't think Glazers 0:11:11.480 --> 0:11:13.160 the type to just throw that out there. I think 0:11:13.160 --> 0:11:16.800 he really liked Trent Richardson had a series of knee operations. 0:11:16.840 --> 0:11:19.160 They weren't major, but there was that adds up. And 0:11:19.480 --> 0:11:21.400 I think the one thing on the field as a player, 0:11:21.679 --> 0:11:23.680 he you look at who he was at Alabama, he 0:11:23.800 --> 0:11:27.080 is not that guy. Well he's a startling lack of 0:11:27.160 --> 0:11:29.240 vision when when there's a hole, he just doesn't see it. 0:11:29.280 --> 0:11:32.200 And I don't know how that's fixable. Reggie McKenzie wasted 0:11:32.240 --> 0:11:34.160 a lot of money. Six hundred thousand dollars for a 0:11:34.240 --> 0:11:36.280 signing bonus is a lot for a guy who got cut. 0:11:36.440 --> 0:11:38.240 I mean that pays for a lot of Mark Davis 0:11:38.240 --> 0:11:40.000 track suits. You know what I'm saying, and you want 0:11:40.000 --> 0:11:42.680 to you would look on the bright side. Only one 0:11:42.679 --> 0:11:45.680 player in history has a lower yards per carry average, 0:11:45.880 --> 0:11:49.760 Clark Hinkle, the inimitable Clark Hinkle, played in the thirties 0:11:49.960 --> 0:11:55.120 and is in the Hall of Fame. In my my 0:11:55.280 --> 0:11:59.000 in my experience, as sightings of Mark Davis, it's usually 0:11:59.000 --> 0:12:01.640 white jeans and a white long sleep T shirt. But 0:12:01.720 --> 0:12:03.480 maybe there's a lot of tracks. Oh, there's some track. 0:12:03.520 --> 0:12:06.559 There's some track track. It's always, you know, always light 0:12:06.600 --> 0:12:10.079 white colors or stone washed garments. You know, a very 0:12:10.120 --> 0:12:12.080 interesting character if you want to put it that way. Mark, 0:12:12.280 --> 0:12:14.640 should we settle up right now, because I think we should. Well, 0:12:14.679 --> 0:12:17.160 you know, let me just set it up. Back in 0:12:17.240 --> 0:12:20.440 March after the signing, Um, I was convinced Trent Richardson 0:12:20.760 --> 0:12:23.800 was awful and despite getting guaranteed money, he wasn't gonna 0:12:23.800 --> 0:12:25.800 make that team and he would never see a snap again. 0:12:26.800 --> 0:12:30.240 Everyone laughed at me. You laughed at me, Mark you, 0:12:30.559 --> 0:12:34.120 I don't remember laughing. Gregg chuckled. But the truth was 0:12:37.520 --> 0:12:40.400 his moment. The old Zeuser got it right, because Trent 0:12:40.520 --> 0:12:42.599 Richardson is not starting the season with the Raiders, and 0:12:42.679 --> 0:12:44.760 I don't think he's going to see a snap. And Mark, 0:12:44.800 --> 0:12:46.959 you and I we had a sandwich on this, a 0:12:47.080 --> 0:12:50.400 sandwich we did well, the actual sandwich bet. The reason 0:12:50.520 --> 0:12:52.160 I took you up was you said he would never 0:12:52.960 --> 0:12:56.480 another snap again in the NFL, Forget the Raiders, whether 0:12:56.640 --> 0:12:58.760 making the Raiders have a chance. That's right, So the 0:12:58.800 --> 0:13:01.200 bet is ongoing. But if feels like a Google the 0:13:01.200 --> 0:13:03.280 wager of the proposition, it feels like a good time 0:13:03.679 --> 0:13:05.640 to pay up because read a pause point where we 0:13:05.720 --> 0:13:08.319 might not see them until December of some teams in 0:13:08.360 --> 0:13:10.400 the train wreck, and they bring them back. So at 0:13:10.400 --> 0:13:13.200 this point I think it's still take trains to their game, 0:13:14.360 --> 0:13:17.920 all right, so you have a there's the thing. It's 0:13:18.040 --> 0:13:19.760 very early while we're taping this. I went to the 0:13:19.800 --> 0:13:22.320 huddle the commissary and I have to listen. Can you 0:13:22.320 --> 0:13:25.880 cook up something that Dan Hansis would like? So we'll 0:13:25.920 --> 0:13:28.520 see what it is? Right and in it's some version 0:13:28.520 --> 0:13:33.080 of a sandwich. Here's our version of the Sully coming 0:13:33.080 --> 0:13:39.720 into this studio, right, girl, looking good? Sound Sully? Great 0:13:39.800 --> 0:13:42.079 job we got looks like we got an egg sandwich. 0:13:43.240 --> 0:13:45.800 Who is that some avocado? And well, listen, I said, 0:13:45.840 --> 0:13:49.160 let's keep a little hell little hash browns. This looks 0:13:49.160 --> 0:13:51.000 the lists. I will say that this Mark, you're a 0:13:51.000 --> 0:13:53.920 man of your word. Are you gonna have some? You know? No, 0:13:54.080 --> 0:13:56.600 that's still gross fans on camera. I'm gonna warm it up. 0:13:56.679 --> 0:13:58.800 I'll warn you. I purchased it about an hour ago, 0:13:58.960 --> 0:14:02.680 so it's in a middleealed. Mark your man of your word. 0:14:03.040 --> 0:14:05.280 Thank you. And if if he does play another snap, 0:14:05.280 --> 0:14:06.880 you're gonna be a man of your work. I will. 0:14:07.000 --> 0:14:11.480 But I feel pretty confident about this because if he does, 0:14:11.679 --> 0:14:13.960 I will. I will give him everything he needs. But 0:14:14.320 --> 0:14:16.280 three teams are now quit on this guy in three years. 0:14:16.280 --> 0:14:18.360 It's over come on all right, Let's move on to 0:14:18.520 --> 0:14:24.160 the Houston Texans Hard Knocks Episode four on HBO, which 0:14:24.200 --> 0:14:27.120 stands for what wes Home Box Office nailed it home 0:14:27.240 --> 0:14:31.400 run uh the uh second to last episode of the series. 0:14:31.560 --> 0:14:35.800 This one, uh, GREG was an episode that showed us, 0:14:36.160 --> 0:14:39.360 first of all, Vince Wilfork um one of the all 0:14:39.400 --> 0:14:42.320 time characters on the show and every season. I've been 0:14:42.320 --> 0:14:44.680 writing these for four years now for NFL dot com. 0:14:44.720 --> 0:14:47.280 There is a Hard Knocks m VP. What he did 0:14:47.320 --> 0:14:48.720 and TV. I don't know if we have this to 0:14:48.800 --> 0:14:52.040 put on video or on on the screen. What he 0:14:52.240 --> 0:14:56.160 what he showed up in the work in Tuesday's episode 0:14:56.600 --> 0:15:03.320 is incredible. They were overalls and and cowboy boots and 0:15:03.440 --> 0:15:07.840 nothing underneath them at all. Um glorious. The best comment 0:15:07.840 --> 0:15:10.400 from a teammate came from Kareem Jackson, who said, you 0:15:10.400 --> 0:15:12.520 had to get that special made. I haven't seen the 0:15:12.560 --> 0:15:15.520 shorts like that in a while, except for on Babies. 0:15:16.160 --> 0:15:22.880 Has been pounds listed as five pounds. He has gotta 0:15:22.920 --> 0:15:27.280 be got over. This was performance art. Yeah, I mean 0:15:27.320 --> 0:15:29.400 he had everybody rolling. He knows it's a dog day 0:15:29.560 --> 0:15:31.440 dog days of August. You gonna come in and lighten 0:15:31.480 --> 0:15:34.480 the mood. He's got the coach Dan laughing. This was 0:15:34.680 --> 0:15:36.320 This was art and that's what I and that's what 0:15:36.360 --> 0:15:38.000 I wrote in the recap. I don't know if Vince 0:15:37.960 --> 0:15:40.600 Wilford can play anymore. We're very close to the end probably, 0:15:40.920 --> 0:15:43.520 But just this alone, I get why the Texans have 0:15:43.640 --> 0:15:46.040 give this guy million. It kind of sneaks up on 0:15:46.240 --> 0:15:50.200 Brian here doesn't even know he's there to be with 0:15:50.240 --> 0:15:53.120 the Patriots for a decade, that you're it's time to 0:15:53.160 --> 0:15:54.920 let your hair down and have some flour. Oh, you 0:15:55.000 --> 0:15:57.000 get a lot. You'd be like in scientology where they 0:15:57.000 --> 0:15:59.280 put you in a basement making scrub the floor for 0:15:59.560 --> 0:16:01.320 three days. That's what would happen if you did that 0:16:01.360 --> 0:16:05.000 on Patriot Way. Greg. Any other takeaways from episode four 0:16:05.040 --> 0:16:08.640 of Hard Knocks. I thought the moment where Charles James 0:16:08.640 --> 0:16:10.920 and this is why Hard Knocks is so great. Return 0:16:11.120 --> 0:16:13.280 or came in at running back. He's a cornerback that 0:16:13.400 --> 0:16:16.320 they've tried here and there, running back. Very likable personality, 0:16:16.440 --> 0:16:19.000 so likable. Aaron Andrews comes up to him before the 0:16:19.040 --> 0:16:21.920 game and tells him she's a big fan and they 0:16:21.920 --> 0:16:23.520 put him in a running back and let's just try 0:16:23.720 --> 0:16:25.360 last couple of minutes of the game. And he busts 0:16:25.360 --> 0:16:28.360 out a seventy seven yard touchdown on his first carry. 0:16:28.400 --> 0:16:31.360 Like I was genuinely like excited. I didn't. I didn't really, 0:16:31.440 --> 0:16:33.720 I was genuinely excited, like my favorite team won the game. 0:16:33.720 --> 0:16:36.280 They called it back by penalty, but didn't. He's keeping 0:16:36.320 --> 0:16:39.840 that ball. He kept the ball. And the funniest moment 0:16:39.920 --> 0:16:44.280 for me, besides Wilford dressed as a giant baby, was 0:16:45.040 --> 0:16:48.680 a slow motion shot of James hoisting up the football 0:16:49.080 --> 0:16:51.320 in front of Bill O'Brien sitting on the team bus, 0:16:51.600 --> 0:16:55.320 and then O'Brien giving him the finger and then signaling holding. 0:16:55.880 --> 0:17:01.240 All this added effect an incredible episode. And I would say, West, 0:17:01.280 --> 0:17:03.560 did you see the episode? I saw about the first 0:17:03.720 --> 0:17:06.040 thirty five minutes on my way into work. You can 0:17:06.040 --> 0:17:08.240 watch it on your phone in the car. Did you 0:17:08.240 --> 0:17:10.719 say that I did? Did you. What was your takeaway 0:17:10.760 --> 0:17:13.320 from the Ryan Mallett and miss ade. I don't think 0:17:13.400 --> 0:17:15.720 Ryan Mallett and you wrote it up perfectly. Didn't help 0:17:15.800 --> 0:17:19.000 himself on this show in general. But it's sort of 0:17:19.119 --> 0:17:21.240 like a time to come back and own up your mistake. 0:17:21.280 --> 0:17:22.480 He just he didn't do that. And I think that's 0:17:22.480 --> 0:17:25.600 where Bill O'Brien's decision making to go with Hoyer maybe 0:17:25.600 --> 0:17:28.080 Seesawyer is a war mature leader. You saw, you saw 0:17:28.160 --> 0:17:30.879 why some teams, maybe the Patriots and and now the 0:17:30.920 --> 0:17:33.680 Texans going with Hoyer. Maybe the things they aren't so 0:17:33.680 --> 0:17:36.080 sure about Ryan. Now, what would you suggest he say 0:17:36.119 --> 0:17:38.040 to Rick Smith when he was in the office not 0:17:38.200 --> 0:17:42.000 making any I think that I don't backtrack and try 0:17:42.000 --> 0:17:44.000 to explain yourself. Sometimes when you just make a mistake, 0:17:44.040 --> 0:17:45.639 just down up to it, so you just walk in 0:17:45.680 --> 0:17:48.320 and say, I messed up. It will never happen. What's 0:17:48.320 --> 0:17:50.280 wrong with that? I messed up? Never? I mean, he 0:17:50.560 --> 0:17:55.479 went on this long rant about technology, but I bought him. Right, 0:17:55.840 --> 0:17:58.000 you're not even missing. I bought a battery powered along clock. 0:17:58.040 --> 0:18:01.840 It will never happen again. Bill O'Brien said, he's right. Yeah, 0:18:02.000 --> 0:18:05.080 it's like the parent that's just exactly. They're just exacerbated 0:18:05.119 --> 0:18:07.639 by the kid that is still living at home and 0:18:07.640 --> 0:18:10.280 it's like he's twenty seven. He's right. The best head 0:18:10.280 --> 0:18:12.680 scratching part was he he kept saying, I'm not even mad, 0:18:12.920 --> 0:18:14.800 Like you're the one who best up. Why would you 0:18:14.840 --> 0:18:18.879 be mad? Yeah? And finally we had Odell Beckham Jr. 0:18:18.880 --> 0:18:21.879 Somehow Made his way into the episode. I listen, he 0:18:22.040 --> 0:18:25.320 is the most overexposed professional athlete in this country right now. 0:18:25.359 --> 0:18:27.560 But I have to hand it to him squeezing in 0:18:27.720 --> 0:18:30.080 a cameo on the show and the training camp that 0:18:30.160 --> 0:18:33.960 takes place miles away, and also plugging the video game 0:18:34.000 --> 0:18:36.520 franchise for which you are the cover boy. I mean, 0:18:36.520 --> 0:18:39.440 the guy knows how to market himself sales big time 0:18:39.440 --> 0:18:42.760 interception to win the game, right, Yeah, clutch pick six. 0:18:42.840 --> 0:18:46.800 He also gave Charles James heat for letting Eli Manning 0:18:46.840 --> 0:18:49.960 tackle him on an interception on back you let Eli 0:18:50.119 --> 0:18:53.960 catch you? Anyway. There's our Hard Knocks recap and that's 0:18:54.000 --> 0:18:57.120 it for the news and now it's time to talk 0:18:57.119 --> 0:19:00.800 about our NFC preview. Maybe it's gonna do it two 0:19:00.840 --> 0:19:04.040 thousand NFC preview and we're gonna go do this, he 0:19:04.160 --> 0:19:07.800 will do it. Get excited, society. We're gonna go division 0:19:07.800 --> 0:19:10.320 by division, team by team, and each of us will 0:19:10.359 --> 0:19:14.240 take turns, one guy per team per division. Thrown out 0:19:14.280 --> 0:19:18.679 a question, A big question, one big question, all Caps 0:19:19.200 --> 0:19:21.680 facing each team, and then we will discuss and then 0:19:22.320 --> 0:19:25.800 it will be informative and Murphy and we'll start with 0:19:26.080 --> 0:19:29.520 the NFC East and uh, there's a lot to get 0:19:29.520 --> 0:19:31.359 to at the NFC East. Who do we want to 0:19:31.359 --> 0:19:34.320 start with here? I think we're starting with Mark, start 0:19:34.320 --> 0:19:38.560 at the bottom. Alright, let's do it. I see major 0:19:38.720 --> 0:19:42.359 seismic shifts ahead in Washington, in our nation's capital, because 0:19:42.359 --> 0:19:45.480 I'm wondering right now will r G three, who obviously 0:19:45.480 --> 0:19:48.119 they don't want to play a coach Gruden, will they 0:19:48.160 --> 0:19:52.200 even be around by Christmas? I really wonder if they'll 0:19:52.240 --> 0:19:55.000 both out of here, because how does this coach and 0:19:55.080 --> 0:19:57.560 this owner get along? At this point, it's all on 0:19:57.560 --> 0:19:59.200 the table. I just don't I see it as a 0:19:59.280 --> 0:20:02.040