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Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL Podcast. Can't fight this feeling anymore.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast.

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Speaker 1: My name is Dan Hanzas and I am joined by

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Speaker 1: a room filled with heroes, Mark Sessler, Chris Westling and

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Speaker 1: Greg Rostal. What is up, boys? Dam are you a speedwagon?

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Speaker 1: West That must be bringing you back to your days

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Speaker 1: at the old Junior High. Now that was way before

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Speaker 1: my junior Huh. What was Matt money Smith have to

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Speaker 1: do to get a laugh for a smile out of

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Speaker 1: you two guys in the morning. I mean he's out

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Speaker 1: there bearing his soul the old constern Nation corner over here. Hey, look,

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna do some fake smile. Who do you

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Speaker 1: think I am? Cam Newton in the pre draft process?

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Speaker 1: Whoa mcginha um not laugh when I feel like it?

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Speaker 1: I wait, that was Nolan the Rocky. Yeah, Nolan Nolan Rocky,

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Speaker 1: the most hated man on the Internet. Welcome to the

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Speaker 1: Around the NFL Podcast. You know we are getting close, gentlemen.

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Speaker 1: It is Wednesday, September two at the time of taping,

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Speaker 1: eight days away from football that matters, and you know

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Speaker 1: that it's getting serious when Greg gets a hair cut

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Speaker 1: did you get it from the makeup room or did

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Speaker 1: you actually pay for it? I paid for this one night. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: my boy, Camille, we've alread you know. I didn't have

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Speaker 1: a word of conversation between us the whole time. I

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Speaker 1: didn't even do you when you go there, do you

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Speaker 1: tell them him what to do? You just sit down

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Speaker 1: and he cuts your hair. I pointed a picture of

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Speaker 1: one of like he cut what Camille does. Camille is

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Speaker 1: a barber on Spaulda here in Culver City that many

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Speaker 1: of us use. We point he has he cuts pictures

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Speaker 1: out of magazines and paste them money and then sometimes

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Speaker 1: like he if you don't say anything, he'll give you

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Speaker 1: the regular Sure, But like I like to point out

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Speaker 1: mirror and say something like that's okay, Yeah, hey there's

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Speaker 1: Josh Hartenn. Let's get hire. I like hard from the

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Speaker 1: set of Pearl Harbor. I like not having to talk

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Speaker 1: to Lar at all. Oh, I love it. I don't

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Speaker 1: I don't They don't care, and I don't care. I

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Speaker 1: might care, but generally why I don't go That's why

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Speaker 1: I go back there instead of your brotastic place where

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Speaker 1: they like serve you a drink and this phony nonsense

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Speaker 1: with some guy, I mean, Kamil and I were on

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Speaker 1: the same way and like play a little classical music

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Speaker 1: hymns in the background. Something you should listen to the

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Speaker 1: boss who just show some respect, because you wouldn't even

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Speaker 1: know about Camille if not for me. I did try

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Speaker 1: out another one of those like fancy places that give

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Speaker 1: was like a hipster from you know, Echo Park talking

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Speaker 1: and I went back to Camille. Keeps it tight. Life

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Speaker 1: too short for hipster haircuts exactly all right, right, we

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Speaker 1: But there was some drama. Maurice Jones Drew was badgering

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Speaker 1: Greg about not loving football enough. Well he he was

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Speaker 1: just saying, in general, this entire news organization needs to

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Speaker 1: love football a little more. So I stuck up for

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Speaker 1: you know, us as as footballs and lovers, and said,

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Speaker 1: you know you can't don't come to us. He asked,

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Speaker 1: at one time, how you learned about football? Was it

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Speaker 1: like somebody being taught math and science. But that is

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Speaker 1: I mean, we didn't play. Most of us for many years,

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Speaker 1: qualified haven't played backup center? I think it shows you know,

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Speaker 1: up in your analysis to open. Well, that's poor analysis

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Speaker 1: little energy to the NFL media. Conglomerate Mark Rees yesterday

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Speaker 1: chat about it. So here we go, big show today,

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Speaker 1: coming up, eight days away from the start of the

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Speaker 1: regular season. We're gonna hit our NFC preview, division by division,

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Speaker 1: today is the National Football Conference. We're going to uh.

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Speaker 1: Then pick our division winners as part of this exercise

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Speaker 1: in on the latest episode of Hard Knocks, the penultimate

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Speaker 1: episode of Hard Knocks Season ten with the Houston Texans.

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Speaker 1: Another entertaining show. Uh and then we will do some

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Speaker 1: news as we always do. So that I mean that

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Speaker 1: feels like a good show. It's stack stack show, and

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Speaker 1: the fun stuff. This is why you lift all them weights.

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Speaker 1: That was Gandhi. That's his quote. All right, before we

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Speaker 1: He is a man, he has a headset. We don't

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Speaker 1: his name is TD. What is going on, guys. I

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Speaker 1: playing him as a villain, you always immediately get negative.

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Speaker 1: have very different barbershop experiences. Clearly, what's going on? What's

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Speaker 1: Episode two. Kush grew up in Park Ridge, New Jersey,

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Speaker 1: We'll start with the Jacksonville Jaguars. You know, not, not

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Speaker 1: usually not a good thing. Julius Thomas there, high priced

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Speaker 1: been a brutal off season for the Jaguars. They lose

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Speaker 1: some good news. Jaguars fans, your owner announced that you'll

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Speaker 1: get excited. Not really. Why don't you call Julius Thomas friendly?

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Speaker 1: have someone like that who has had experience. You're not

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Speaker 1: going to I think Gruden's fine now that he's not

425
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Speaker 1: starting RG three. This is the best decision you could

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Speaker 1: have made. At least give yourself a shot here. Don't

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Speaker 1: go down with the RG three ship. Wes your question, Well,

428
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Speaker 1: the Eagles that we have them as the favorites, we

429
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Speaker 1: like their defense, we like the running game. Are we

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Speaker 1: making too much out of Sam Bradford's ten passes in

431
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Speaker 1: preseason Week three? Is this guy going to carry them

432
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Speaker 1: to the division title? I say no, and not because

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Speaker 1: he looked great in Week three, but because we've seen

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Speaker 1: two years of evidence of what Chip Keilly system can do.

435
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Speaker 1: And I don't think there's anyone that believes Bradford is

436
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Speaker 1: less talented than Nick Foles or Mark Sanchez. We've seen

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Speaker 1: the yards that they can put up, So why not Bradford?

438
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Speaker 1: I say yes, I think we're I think he's been

439
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Speaker 1: amazing and he deserves all the credit in the world

440
00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:49,280
Speaker 1: and people should be optimistic about this offense. But it's

441
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Speaker 1: not going to be this easy. There's gonna be a

442
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Speaker 1: time where he's gonna take a hit and maybe he

443
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Speaker 1: won't get back back up, and maybe the knee doesn't

444
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Speaker 1: hold up. You never know, and he'll have struggles. I mean,

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Speaker 1: right now, it seems like he's going to have a

446
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Speaker 1: Payton Manning season. I don't buy that. I don't think

447
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Speaker 1: he's that good. Well, I think a lot of people

448
00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:08,800
Speaker 1: are all of a sudden getting on the bandwagon that

449
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Speaker 1: this offense is completely unstoppable. But Sam Bradford is still

450
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Speaker 1: a guy with a trick kneed that's missed the last

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Speaker 1: two years. One thing, though, we can call it as

452
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Speaker 1: much as any offense in the league as we have

453
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Speaker 1: a quarterback proof offense. So now you actually have the

454
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Speaker 1: best quarterback the Chip Kelly's ever worked with in the NFL.

455
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Speaker 1: From that angle, I do believe it. I think Bradford

456
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Speaker 1: is the guy we saw in the preseason because he's

457
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Speaker 1: in a much better offense. The Rams offense was always

458
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Speaker 1: dead on arrival. The question is sixteen games, can you

459
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Speaker 1: stay healthy? Not someone that's shown us he can do

460
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Speaker 1: thatensive line too. There's definite questions throughout that offensive line

461
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Speaker 1: that haven't been there in the past, some changes there.

462
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Speaker 1: Lane Johnson has been up and down. He's not gonna

463
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Speaker 1: be there all seasons, so that could be a problem

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Speaker 1: if Bradford gets hit a lot. This is my question

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Speaker 1: on the New York Giants. Is this the beginning of

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Speaker 1: the end for Tom Coughlin, one of the more celebrated

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Speaker 1: coaches and franchise history. Guy's been around forever now, like

468
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Speaker 1: you don't even realize that he's been around since oh four.

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Speaker 1: But they haven't made the playoffs in recent season since

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Speaker 1: that Super Bowl win. A lot of expectation this year

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Speaker 1: with Eli uh there, with Odell Beckham. I know there's

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Speaker 1: some holes at the defense, but do we believe that

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Speaker 1: this is the last year Tom Cofflin is the coach

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Speaker 1: of the New York Giants. I think Greg's fired him

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Speaker 1: to August in a row. I mean the defense. He

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Speaker 1: said there's some holes. You know. That's like saying the

477
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Speaker 1: Yankees are somewhat obnoxious. It's like, you know, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I was just let that. I'll let that go because

479
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Speaker 1: it was so bad. It was off the cup. You know,

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Speaker 1: they can't all be winners. Their defense. There's nothing good

481
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Speaker 1: about their defense. It's one of on paper, I think,

482
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Speaker 1: the worst two or three defense in the league. It's

483
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Speaker 1: a bad sign when you're big move in the off season,

484
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Speaker 1: the big Hey, this is the move we're making. Let's

485
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Speaker 1: bring back Steve Spagnolo and and he's gonna just revive

486
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Speaker 1: our old glory after having a terrible last seven or

487
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Speaker 1: eight years since leaving us. That's all they really did

488
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Speaker 1: this offseason on defense. Yeah, I think Coughlin is at

489
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Speaker 1: the age two or if things go completely south season,

490
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Speaker 1: he himself made deciety wants to walk out. But the

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Speaker 1: only problem I have with just firing and when you

492
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Speaker 1: still have a year or two a little bit more

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Speaker 1: of Eli Manning is Ben McAdoo is building a good

494
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Speaker 1: offense by all accounts, going back switching into a third

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Speaker 1: coordinator in four seasons for Manning and starting over, I

496
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Speaker 1: just stni't think it's a good dynamic. Does anybody think

497
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Speaker 1: Tom Coffin is the problem and the reason why the

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Speaker 1: Giants haven't not necessarily, I I don't know, because if

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Speaker 1: you don't make the playoffs, you haven't won ten wins

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Speaker 1: in a season since two thousand. I mean, you've just

501
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Speaker 1: been mediocre for five straight years. If they do it again,

502
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Speaker 1: then you know, if they go to and fourteen, the

503
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Speaker 1: GM could go to I mean there's a lot of

504
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Speaker 1: stuff there that's been in place for a long time.

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Speaker 1: My question is about the team that we had in

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Speaker 1: second place in the NFC East. A lot of people

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Speaker 1: have them in first it's Dallas cow But I don't

508
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Speaker 1: think their offense is gonna be as good this season.

509
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Speaker 1: But can their front seven now, which has been rebuilt,

510
00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:57,160
Speaker 1: turned into a big team strength for them? Why not?

511
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Speaker 1: I mean, you love ty around Crawford, right, I do.

512
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Speaker 1: We've got Greg Hardy, who will be what's he suspended

513
00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:05,440
Speaker 1: four games? That's right, easy guy to root for too.

514
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Speaker 1: He got Shawn Lee's coming back. I mean, this is

515
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Speaker 1: a much better front sum. They took a chance on Gregory.

516
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Speaker 1: I think that looks like it's working out to Marcus Lawrence.

517
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Speaker 1: I mean, this was absolutely depleted group two years ago,

518
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Speaker 1: and Jerry Jones deserves credit along with Steven Jones for

519
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Speaker 1: rebuilding it pretty quickly with some exciting young players. The

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Speaker 1: Cowboys took a chance on a couple of guys in

521
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Speaker 1: the draft, and I think it's gonna it's gonna pan

522
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Speaker 1: out for him. I like it. That's very optimistic about

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys. I know we've been a little down on

524
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Speaker 1: the Cowboys in this room. Well we didn't talk about

525
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Speaker 1: they just lost their top cornerback right the secondary, and

526
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Speaker 1: I was gonna ask him they handle success. That's part

527
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Speaker 1: of my You know, reasoning with the Cowboys is just

528
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Speaker 1: I've seen it so long over the Jerry Jones era

529
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Speaker 1: that they are generally a mediocre franchise that gets a

530
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Speaker 1: little too full of themselves. But so well, let me play.

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Speaker 1: That's why I'm just expected them to fall back it

532
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Speaker 1: let me it didn't. They prove to be the mental

533
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Speaker 1: toughest team in the league last year. They went undefeated

534
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Speaker 1: on the road, and they were always winning games when

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Speaker 1: they're back. And I think it's Scarrett. It's not the

536
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Speaker 1: other coaches of the past. When you're right, they have

537
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Speaker 1: a good season and crumble. I like what Garrett is,

538
00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:13,440
Speaker 1: to be honest, much more than a couple of years ago.

539
00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:16,160
Speaker 1: He's a piece of vanilla toast. I think he's seen

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Speaker 1: that way. But you know what, you have some different

541
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Speaker 1: credit what happened last year. All right, let's start at that.

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Speaker 1: Let's move on and talk a little bit about the

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Speaker 1: NFC North and Mark, we'll start with you. You're gonna

544
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Speaker 1: talk about one of the darlings of the preseason analysts. Yeah,

545
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Speaker 1: I mean, well, the Vikings. For a lot of good reasons.

546
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Speaker 1: They went out and aggressively added talent on offense. I

547
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Speaker 1: think they have a where they had no passing game

548
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Speaker 1: a couple of years ago, and now you have Adrian

549
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Speaker 1: Peterson back and you've got all these weapons. Charles Johnson's

550
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Speaker 1: growing up. You've got a bunch going on, Mike Wallace,

551
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Speaker 1: But are we annoying john is growing up? And you

552
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Speaker 1: sound like a proud father. I am a proud father.

553
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Speaker 1: We were making fun of Charles Johnson and now look

554
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Speaker 1: at him now a superstar in the NFL. NORV Turner

555
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Speaker 1: called him the best receiver on the roster at the

556
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Speaker 1: end of the last season, and I trust NORV Turner's judgment.

557
00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:06,399
Speaker 1: Don't ever never say one mildly negative thing about a

558
00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:08,800
Speaker 1: player that mark like that turns out to be okay.

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Speaker 1: T d Sing get to the question, are we anointing

560
00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:15,440
Speaker 1: though Teddy Bridgewater too soon to be able to do

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Speaker 1: something with all this stew of talent. No, we're not

562
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Speaker 1: annointing him too soon. You said you trust NORV Turner.

563
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Speaker 1: He had Mike Zimmer. They have that cheshire cat smile

564
00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:26,359
Speaker 1: on their face because they know this guy is a

565
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Speaker 1: legitr the franchise quarterback where he's going to develop into that.

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Speaker 1: There's nothing we've seen from him that we don't like really.

567
00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:35,480
Speaker 1: I love his touch on the ball. He's got great

568
00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:38,760
Speaker 1: pocket presents. He's now got much better weapon. This guy

569
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Speaker 1: was supposed to have Peterson, Rudolph, Greg Jennings last year,

570
00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:44,919
Speaker 1: could have a big year. Now he was throwing to

571
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Speaker 1: Charles Johnson, jerryus Right and Chase Ford. At the end

572
00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:49,720
Speaker 1: of the year, he's gonna have real weapons. Iss And

573
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Speaker 1: and he's a guy who wins so much before the

574
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Speaker 1: snap and with his mental game that that's something you

575
00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:57,080
Speaker 1: can really improve a lot from year one to year two.

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Speaker 1: I say we're not annoying to him too soon because

577
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Speaker 1: all he has to do is be Andy Dalton or

578
00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:02,919
Speaker 1: Alex Smith right now for them to win, and I

579
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Speaker 1: think he can be better than that. That feels yeah,

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Speaker 1: I agree, that feels like a ten win team. If

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Speaker 1: Bridgewater is competent. He seems like well on the way

582
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Speaker 1: to competence, and even beyond that, potentially your turn Kim

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Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford Recapture two thousand eleven form. Remember this is

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Speaker 1: a guy who had forty one touchdowns and over five

585
00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:23,840
Speaker 1: thousand passing yards and he has regrets since then. Is

586
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Speaker 1: he consistent enough to take advantage of Calvin Johnson, Golden Tate,

587
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:31,280
Speaker 1: Eric Ebron and and Amir Abdullah, who this offense is

588
00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:33,280
Speaker 1: loaded with weapons. I feel like he's one of the

589
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Speaker 1: quarterbacks that I trust the least and I find most

590
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Speaker 1: frustrating to watch on game pass because what you get

591
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:41,360
Speaker 1: from one week is not the same the next. He's

592
00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:43,520
Speaker 1: been in the league since two thousand and nine, So

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Speaker 1: if we're gonna look at a guy like Andy Dalton

594
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Speaker 1: say he can't change, So why are we so sure

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Speaker 1: that just because the talent around him increases that Stafford

596
00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:53,120
Speaker 1: as a quarterback is going to change. We have seen

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00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:55,720
Speaker 1: Stafford do it, though well we haven't seen anyone else

598
00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:59,080
Speaker 1: bring else around him is perfect. I agree with everything

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Speaker 1: that Mark says. I think he is who he is

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00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:03,760
Speaker 1: right now now. If the protection is way better and

601
00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:05,720
Speaker 1: the run game's way better and he has all those talents,

602
00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:07,840
Speaker 1: they're gonna make him look look better, but he's not

603
00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:10,160
Speaker 1: going to be consistent. My feeling on Stafford is that

604
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:11,560
Speaker 1: the lines are in a little bit of a tricky

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Speaker 1: place because I don't think he'll ever become like an

606
00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:16,040
Speaker 1: A level quarterback, and I don't I think he's better

607
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Speaker 1: than a sea level core. He's right at like B

608
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:22,440
Speaker 1: and and maybe yeah, if you can and if you

609
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Speaker 1: can get the right team around him, you know, maybe

610
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Speaker 1: something clicks. But we don't know what he can do

611
00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:29,800
Speaker 1: for a month, he could, but do we trust that

612
00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:31,760
Speaker 1: to happen. That's not the first guy I say, Oh yeah,

613
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Speaker 1: it's gonna be Stafford. And you don't worry about his

614
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Speaker 1: durability anymore. He's been on the field constantly after his

615
00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:41,440
Speaker 1: first couple of years. Next up, my turn, the old Zuser.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk about the Packers. You know, are the branding

617
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Speaker 1: with Dan. That's what you gotta do. That's still I

618
00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:52,560
Speaker 1: like it. Part of his contract. Now we have to

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Speaker 1: play get your Dan, hansis every single thow I like it.

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Speaker 1: Kenvin Packers finally secure home field advantage in the NFC, because,

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Speaker 1: let's face it, they were would not have blown that

622
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Speaker 1: game in January if they were at Lambeau. It's it's

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Speaker 1: I knew Week one they played at Seattle. When they

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Speaker 1: lost that game, you knew they were in a bad

625
00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:14,080
Speaker 1: spot and it could come back to on them. Sure enough,

626
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Speaker 1: they lose the game, the NFC title game at Seattle.

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Speaker 1: Can they get out of the out of the what

628
00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:24,600
Speaker 1: do they call that? In racing the blocks nails faster.

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Speaker 1: They started one and two, they'll past three seasons. Uh,

630
00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:33,240
Speaker 1: they started one to one and to the past three seasons.

631
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Speaker 1: Get out of the blocks fast, get that number one seed,

632
00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:40,320
Speaker 1: and then take care of business in the playoffs and

633
00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:42,560
Speaker 1: get back to the super Bowl. Because Aaron Rodgers doesn't

634
00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:45,280
Speaker 1: have too much time, I flaly does, but this is him.

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Speaker 1: That is absolute peak and this team is loaded as

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Speaker 1: we know, even without Jordy Nelson. Massive preamble to your question.

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Speaker 1: I enjoyed all of it. Gates out of the gates.

638
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Speaker 1: Jordy Nelson's not the field. It's gonna be tougher than

639
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Speaker 1: it was a year ago. The other problem I had

640
00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:00,920
Speaker 1: with green Bait coming out with the best record in

641
00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:03,920
Speaker 1: the NFC that division was cream Puff Central. For a while,

642
00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:06,480
Speaker 1: we just talked about the Lions and the Vikings his

643
00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:08,880
Speaker 1: potential playoff teams. We'd be surprised if they both didn't

644
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Speaker 1: push for the playoffs. Tough out of division schedule two

645
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:12,520
Speaker 1: and they're not. They're kind of a team like the

646
00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:14,959
Speaker 1: Patriots that starts slow. They're they're not always a very

647
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Speaker 1: consistent regular season team. And the year they won the

648
00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:19,200
Speaker 1: Super Bowl, they certainly were. That's why I think the

649
00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:22,920
Speaker 1: Nelson injury is so hurtful, because it puts in perspective

650
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:25,760
Speaker 1: last year's lost. That was your opportunity. You blew it.

651
00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:27,760
Speaker 1: Your team is not the same this year. One of

652
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:30,040
Speaker 1: your best players has gone. You might not ever get

653
00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:32,320
Speaker 1: that opportunity again. Yeah, Mark, I didn't give you a

654
00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:35,560
Speaker 1: hard time doing your obligatory Charles Johnson hero worship. Second,

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Speaker 1: I knew we were going to come back to my

656
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:43,560
Speaker 1: preamble comment. I like this, sign me up for now.

657
00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:46,440
Speaker 1: I love Mark, You got me sanguage. My my question

658
00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:49,160
Speaker 1: is about the Chicago Bears, one that I asked every

659
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:51,280
Speaker 1: morning when I wake up. Why does everyone have so

660
00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:55,320
Speaker 1: much faith in John fox Oh, that's put old Foxy

661
00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:58,000
Speaker 1: in there. Let's put old Foxy. Everything will be fine

662
00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:00,400
Speaker 1: now they'll be more competent. Like why, I don't know.

663
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Speaker 1: Doesn't he have a history of turning teams around only

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Speaker 1: to fall shorten the playoffs? Well, I think he'll make

665
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:08,160
Speaker 1: a good he'll make a great team good, and he'll

666
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:10,760
Speaker 1: make a bad team good. I think you're never gonna

667
00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:13,520
Speaker 1: get great with him the team, and maybe maybe they'll

668
00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:16,280
Speaker 1: be worse. Look at that, Look at the roster. I

669
00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:18,960
Speaker 1: don't really believe in Adam Gates to turn the offense around.

670
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Speaker 1: I think this could be the worst team in the NFL.

671
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 1: This is this year's Tytoons. The Bears don't exist to

672
00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:26,520
Speaker 1: me until they cut Jay Cutler. Wow, they're a tough watch.

673
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:28,880
Speaker 1: It's hard to get excited about them. I understand John

674
00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:30,600
Speaker 1: Fox gets a lot of hate around these parts, and

675
00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:32,960
Speaker 1: I know he got mostly from outclass in the super

676
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Speaker 1: Bowl against the Seahawks. But yes, he took a Jake

677
00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:39,400
Speaker 1: Delme team to the super Bowl, while back he took

678
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:45,000
Speaker 1: a Tin Tebow team and it happened. Uh no, well listen,

679
00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:48,640
Speaker 1: you stick and that's not there. And then you know,

680
00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:51,600
Speaker 1: the paid man teams are always competitive. Obviously with him,

681
00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:53,160
Speaker 1: they're not gonna give him too much credit for that.

682
00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:56,160
Speaker 1: But this guy is. There are way worse coaches, right

683
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Speaker 1: I get. I have a big theory on coaches. Six

684
00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:00,920
Speaker 1: or seven matter to the it. It could be four

685
00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:03,560
Speaker 1: or five in a given year, could be seven. Six

686
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:06,920
Speaker 1: or seven matter because they they they're terrible and to

687
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:08,840
Speaker 1: the bat, and John Fox, to me, is not in

688
00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:10,880
Speaker 1: either one of those groups. He just doesn't matter. He's

689
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Speaker 1: going to get to the record that your roster gets you,

690
00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:15,240
Speaker 1: and that roster is terrible. I think it's telling that Elway,

691
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Speaker 1: who I think we can trust to this point. He's

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Speaker 1: built a great team in Denver, looked at Fox and said,

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Speaker 1: he can get me most of the way there, but

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Speaker 1: he can't get me all the way there. All right,

695
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:27,400
Speaker 1: all right, let's move on now, Mark to the NFC South,

696
00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:30,120
Speaker 1: where you're gonna ask a big important question about the

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Speaker 1: Atlanta Falcon So I don't want to judge too much.

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Speaker 1: I'm actually gonna asking about the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. I

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Speaker 1: don't want to. I don't want to go too much

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00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:39,320
Speaker 1: off of the preseason on. But no, no, no, that

701
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:42,000
Speaker 1: was such a simple correction. Let's get back on course.

702
00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:45,920
Speaker 1: We're going to Tampa. Uh. You look at the last

703
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:48,320
Speaker 1: game against the Browns and it's it's one game in

704
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:52,280
Speaker 1: its preseason, But the line which wrecked two quarterbacks last

705
00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:55,920
Speaker 1: season last year was all much. We're excited about Josh McCown, remember,

706
00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:58,400
Speaker 1: and we're excited about Mike Lennon. They're both played because

707
00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:00,760
Speaker 1: neither could stay healthy behind that line. And now you're

708
00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:03,400
Speaker 1: putting a rookie out there behind what looks like equally

709
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:06,600
Speaker 1: as shambles. Are you worried? I thought I thought that

710
00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:09,320
Speaker 1: might have been hyperbole or last podcast when you explained

711
00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:15,600
Speaker 1: how Cleveland's defensive line destroyed Desmond Bryant, as Mark would say,

712
00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:19,800
Speaker 1: fashioned a multi colored clown suit for Ali Marpet. He

713
00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:22,719
Speaker 1: blew him up, pushed him back into the quarterback. Then

714
00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:25,080
Speaker 1: he had Mark Pets so scared that he had a penalty,

715
00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:27,439
Speaker 1: and then he sacked him in the the very next play.

716
00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:29,799
Speaker 1: I mean, this was a's as much as you can

717
00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:32,680
Speaker 1: dominate an offensive line. I brought this up on our

718
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:36,000
Speaker 1: NFL Now thing last week. We're gonna be part of

719
00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:39,239
Speaker 1: this NFL Now Sunday blitz. Apparently you guys can watch

720
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:42,399
Speaker 1: every Sunday just throwing a bat plug in there live

721
00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:46,400
Speaker 1: on the offensive lines of problem. And Jamie Dukes said, well, no,

722
00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:49,040
Speaker 1: they've addressed it. They drafted Donovan Smith. He's gonna be

723
00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:53,480
Speaker 1: the Jamie Dukes saying the same thing. Okay, yeah, there's

724
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Speaker 1: no way the guy from Hobart might not work out.

725
00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:58,000
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Donovan Smith, who was by the way, he's

726
00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:00,440
Speaker 1: already hurt and they're missing both tackles from a lineman

727
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:03,360
Speaker 1: struggle like rookie cornerbacks exactly. So just because they drafted

728
00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:05,960
Speaker 1: a couple of guys doesn't mean it's solved. S your question,

729
00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:09,480
Speaker 1: Let's go to the Falcons. You know I'm gonna take them.

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Speaker 1: You know what, I made a mistake. I apologize. You

731
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Speaker 1: don't even have tooge, you're in my mind. You are

732
00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:19,799
Speaker 1: pretty much the quintessential host. Oh wow, thanks man? Yeah,

733
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Speaker 1: can I get my music again? Why? Just pretty much?

734
00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:28,800
Speaker 1: Are we killing what's on the Mike Smith era? The

735
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:31,080
Speaker 1: vestige of the Mike Smith era is that they've had

736
00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:33,720
Speaker 1: the worst offensive line and one of the worst defensive

737
00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:35,879
Speaker 1: lines in the NFL. Are they still inept on both

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Speaker 1: sides of the ball in the trenches? Because I don't

739
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:40,480
Speaker 1: Greg's got them winning the division. I don't think they

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Speaker 1: win the division if if Matt Ryan's being pressured all

741
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Speaker 1: the time, and if they can't stop the runk. I

742
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:46,719
Speaker 1: don't feel good about this prediction. I don't really like

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00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:50,560
Speaker 1: any of these teams. They're counting on Kyle Shanahan's scheme

744
00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:52,719
Speaker 1: to solve the line, which is asking a lot because

745
00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:55,120
Speaker 1: the talent is not any better. They didn't invest anything,

746
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:57,680
Speaker 1: and I do trust Dan Quinn though with the defense

747
00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:00,840
Speaker 1: to bringing a scheme that the ever say they love it,

748
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Speaker 1: and it sounds like they feel like they can bring

749
00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:04,640
Speaker 1: more pressure. Now we heard that all last summer, so

750
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:06,439
Speaker 1: we got to see it. The line could be better.

751
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:09,520
Speaker 1: You know, they brought in Vic Beasley if he works out,

752
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:14,160
Speaker 1: you know you signed who did they sign? Clayborne and Brooks.

753
00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:19,799
Speaker 1: It's like, at least they have more people there. They

754
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:21,799
Speaker 1: brought in a bunch of guys who have averaged two

755
00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:24,239
Speaker 1: sacks per season in their career. They can't be worse

756
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:26,640
Speaker 1: than last season. And it was it was unbelievable how

757
00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:28,960
Speaker 1: untough they were. After you had to write four articles

758
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:31,360
Speaker 1: about how tough they're going to be based on hard knocks.

759
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:33,279
Speaker 1: They sold that real hard. I think they're getting rid

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00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:35,839
Speaker 1: of Mike Smith. Factor is my is the ticket. I'm

761
00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:38,080
Speaker 1: riding to them winning the division. I think that's a

762
00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:41,080
Speaker 1: huge plus. I will keep things simple with the defense.

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00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:45,879
Speaker 1: Back to back defending champion NFC South Carolina Panthers, Will

764
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Speaker 1: Cam Newton be doomed once again by a suspect sport

765
00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:52,360
Speaker 1: supporting cast on offense. This time it's not all the

766
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:55,680
Speaker 1: front office's fault or salary cap issues or what have you.

767
00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:58,239
Speaker 1: They lost Kevin Benjamin obviously the A C l TR.

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Speaker 1: We don't know what we're gonna get from Devin funch Is.

769
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Speaker 1: I know we're big on Jonathan Stewart and Greg Olsen

770
00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:05,279
Speaker 1: is a nice player. But is there enough there? Or

771
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:08,960
Speaker 1: is once again Cam Newton going into a fight with

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00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:14,200
Speaker 1: a you know, p shooter its caliber gun. Wow, that

773
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:16,160
Speaker 1: word just jumped into your head. You weren't sure it

774
00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:19,200
Speaker 1: was going to be there. I think he has the

775
00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:22,839
Speaker 1: worst supporting cast, arguably of any quarterback in the league,

776
00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:27,360
Speaker 1: if you count offensive line skill, position talent, and offensive coordinating.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if there's any team that's any worse,

778
00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:31,560
Speaker 1: Browns are in the mix. I hate to, you know say,

779
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:35,960
Speaker 1: I mean it's if Browns have an offensive line though

780
00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:39,200
Speaker 1: that Cam Newton doesn't really have anything. If Mike Shula disappeared,

781
00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:42,359
Speaker 1: by the way, I if I was investigator, I would

782
00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:46,640
Speaker 1: look into Greg's whereabouts. I checked the cell phone towers

783
00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:51,040
Speaker 1: where they're paying off. His phone has got a stable

784
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:54,120
Speaker 1: of boys. I got the Dungeon of Dungeon of Doom.

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00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:56,279
Speaker 1: First thing, I go, Greg, what were you doing the

786
00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:59,719
Speaker 1: night of Mike Shula's disappearance? You know what I am,

787
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:03,080
Speaker 1: I'm Cam Newton. Believer that doesn't like him being saddled

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Speaker 1: with this lousy being saddled with a roster full of

789
00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:07,719
Speaker 1: number five receivers. So I think you when you lose

790
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:11,200
Speaker 1: Calvin Benjamin, the stock on that whole offense went down

791
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Speaker 1: a ton. Dan, I believe you listed Devin Funchius as

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00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:16,919
Speaker 1: your rookie of the year. Nick, you did. You must

793
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:19,560
Speaker 1: sleeve it faith. It was a leap of faith, and

794
00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:21,880
Speaker 1: you know, honestly, probably could have put a little more

795
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:26,799
Speaker 1: thought into it. However, it makes sense when you think

796
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:28,880
Speaker 1: about it. Let's say, Kem I broke it down in

797
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:31,800
Speaker 1: my head. Let's say Cam Newton throws about twenty touchdowns

798
00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:34,720
Speaker 1: this year, right, Greg Olson catches eight If he stays healthy,

799
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Speaker 1: someone's gonna have to catch seven or eight bunches. Thinks

800
00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:40,000
Speaker 1: he was one of the most polarizing players in the draft.

801
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:41,920
Speaker 1: A lot of a lot of guys didn't think he'd

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00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:43,560
Speaker 1: be good at all. And that I'll say that, like

803
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:46,000
Speaker 1: and I've said in this podcast before, my knowledge of

804
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:48,120
Speaker 1: these college guys comes once to get to the NFL.

805
00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:49,920
Speaker 1: Maybe he's not that good. I'm not even sure, but

806
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:51,759
Speaker 1: I know they invested a high draft pick in him

807
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:53,680
Speaker 1: and he's gonna have an immediate role in that offense.

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00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:55,440
Speaker 1: I'm rolling the dice with my pack. One of my

809
00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:58,280
Speaker 1: problem with the Panthers is not everyone around Cam Newton,

810
00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:00,920
Speaker 1: but very often Cam Newton himself, right, and he's not

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Speaker 1: good enough to make up for this bad roster. I'm

812
00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:04,759
Speaker 1: not trying to say that he needs to be a

813
00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:06,960
Speaker 1: top five quarterback to make He's not close to that

814
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:10,880
Speaker 1: right now. Drew Brees is, but how close is he is?

815
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:13,360
Speaker 1: He in decline or not? To me, that's the question.

816
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:16,120
Speaker 1: Because the defense already looks like they have big problems.

817
00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:18,920
Speaker 1: Drew Brees needs to be as good as he's ever

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00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:22,000
Speaker 1: been for them to be good. I thought he wasn't

819
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:25,040
Speaker 1: declined last year, but we also thought, you know, Tom

820
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Speaker 1: Brady wasn't declined going into last season two, and he's

821
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Speaker 1: Super Bowl MVP. I think these things can be reversed.

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00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:32,640
Speaker 1: I think also we've talked about this, you know, at nauseum,

823
00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:35,360
Speaker 1: but they've reshaped the way the team's gonna do it

824
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:38,040
Speaker 1: this season. It's not just Breeze airing it out NonStop.

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00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:40,160
Speaker 1: Well that's easy to say until you give up thirty

826
00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:42,520
Speaker 1: points a game. P J. Williams, we just learned is

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Speaker 1: out for the season. Cornerback they drafted. Their best cornerback,

828
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Speaker 1: Keenan Lewis, is out for four to six weeks with

829
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Speaker 1: a hip surgery. I mean, there's Jis Bird has not

830
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:56,440
Speaker 1: seen the fields. Might Jarris Bird might not play, but

831
00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:58,799
Speaker 1: then that changes everything. But let's say it goes. Let's

832
00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:01,560
Speaker 1: see the defense is even midway right mid middle of

833
00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:03,399
Speaker 1: the pack, and they were able to do what they want.

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Speaker 1: They're putting Breeze in a better situation because we've heard

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Speaker 1: from me in Rapidport two years in a row that

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Speaker 1: the Saints themselves think that Breeze is nearing the end

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Speaker 1: and they've been looking for other quarterbacks. So I think

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Speaker 1: they know better than anyone. I believe the Saints are

839
00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:17,440
Speaker 1: in a tough spot. I don't think they have a

840
00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:20,600
Speaker 1: really well balanced team. And I think Breeze has entered

841
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Speaker 1: the thirty touchdown twenty interception eighties six passer rating period

842
00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:27,200
Speaker 1: of his careers will go for a couple of years,

843
00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:29,439
Speaker 1: which is certainly fine and a guy you could still

844
00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:31,600
Speaker 1: build a team around. But I don't think he's good

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Speaker 1: enough anymore at that level to take a bad team

846
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:35,840
Speaker 1: to the player. You know what, the multiple ones, you know.

847
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:38,640
Speaker 1: The last seven or eight minutes have raised another question

848
00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:40,920
Speaker 1: with me. Is the NFC South now the worst division

849
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:43,200
Speaker 1: in football? What do you mean? Now? I would say

850
00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:47,400
Speaker 1: the year I would have said the South still they

851
00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:50,160
Speaker 1: had one team, but they is the division winner? Go

852
00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:52,080
Speaker 1: eight seven and one last year or something? All right?

853
00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:54,239
Speaker 1: I guess yeah. I mean at least the South had

854
00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:56,440
Speaker 1: an a f C championship club in it. Alright, So

855
00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:58,480
Speaker 1: sipping up on those. He's going to replace me the

856
00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:01,160
Speaker 1: rest of the show. You try it is good. I

857
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:04,560
Speaker 1: like your haircut. Finally, let's move on to the NFC West,

858
00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:09,239
Speaker 1: a division really uh that seems pretty interesting with a

859
00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:10,920
Speaker 1: lot of teams to get into, and we'll start with

860
00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:14,719
Speaker 1: Mark Uh. Well, I got the Cardinals, and I think

861
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:17,360
Speaker 1: for me, I've automatically kind of just plugged them in

862
00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:20,279
Speaker 1: as a wild card team all off season. I love

863
00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:22,400
Speaker 1: Bruce Arians and I don't see a team with a

864
00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:25,480
Speaker 1: major gaping issue that would prevent that from happening. The

865
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:28,080
Speaker 1: question for me is are we going to get pre

866
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:31,320
Speaker 1: injury Carson Palmer, the guy that went what fifteen and

867
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:34,040
Speaker 1: three overs last so and so starts? He has been

868
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:36,120
Speaker 1: fantastic for that team. Are we gonna get him, were

869
00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:38,120
Speaker 1: we gonna get a much older coming off an injury.

870
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:40,640
Speaker 1: Carson Palmer sounds weird to say, but he's like the

871
00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:43,320
Speaker 1: Kelvin Benjamin of quarterbacks, where he's not one of the

872
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:45,120
Speaker 1: top five at his position, but he's one of the

873
00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:48,040
Speaker 1: most valuable to his team. Because the Cardinals without Carson

874
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:51,719
Speaker 1: Palmer are not a playoff and I think the preseason

875
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:53,400
Speaker 1: can't tell you whether he's gonna have a good season

876
00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:55,320
Speaker 1: or not, but it can't tell you he is throwing

877
00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:57,759
Speaker 1: the ball well. I mean, he threw three or four

878
00:41:58,080 --> 00:42:00,960
Speaker 1: beautiful throws in their second game, so he's healthy enough

879
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:03,120
Speaker 1: to play. To me, he's a he's a boomer bust guy.

880
00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:05,320
Speaker 1: I mean, we would have a Pro Bowl season or

881
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:07,400
Speaker 1: he could be pretty lousy. If the protections. He'll be

882
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:09,239
Speaker 1: able to spin it when he's sixty years old, I

883
00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:12,799
Speaker 1: don't doubt that. But can he move anymore and can listen?

884
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:14,200
Speaker 1: He should have the same death that we have a

885
00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:17,080
Speaker 1: Sam Bradford two A c L reconstructions? Can he hold

886
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:19,920
Speaker 1: up over? The word out of Cardinals all off season

887
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:22,280
Speaker 1: is that he's moving better than he did before the injury,

888
00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:24,800
Speaker 1: and whereas his previous a c l Tear was like

889
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:27,000
Speaker 1: a Grade four. This was the easiest time. I mean,

890
00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:29,319
Speaker 1: I'm more worried. I'm actually not that worried about Palmer.

891
00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:32,080
Speaker 1: I'm more worried about his protection because he needs and

892
00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:34,879
Speaker 1: the defense. It's like, Lamar, why are you so worried

893
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:38,040
Speaker 1: about the mar Woodley and Frosty Rucker and Kevin Minter

894
00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:41,839
Speaker 1: and his defense? Hold on, we're talking about a team

895
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:44,080
Speaker 1: started a thirty four year old Larry Foot last year

896
00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:47,480
Speaker 1: and and still beat everyone's expectations. They've not changed the

897
00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:49,560
Speaker 1: scheme at all, which is one good thing, and they

898
00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:52,160
Speaker 1: found a way over and over that defense finds. I

899
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:55,480
Speaker 1: think their defense is better this year. Do we have

900
00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:57,960
Speaker 1: any concerns about Todd Bowls not being there anymore? And

901
00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:00,759
Speaker 1: he was a major part of that defense obviously, Well

902
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:03,920
Speaker 1: you're the new guy whatever his name is. Yeah, Bruce

903
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:06,480
Speaker 1: Arians loves that. Arians said, it's the same scheme and

904
00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:08,399
Speaker 1: we've rolled right through it with no issue. You're gonna

905
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:15,640
Speaker 1: miss Todd. Immediately made me think less of him. That whatever,

906
00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:18,000
Speaker 1: Rex Ryan stuck at the Brady all the time. Just

907
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:20,839
Speaker 1: know what they're doing. D What was that you had something?

908
00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:23,120
Speaker 1: We're going on to the Seahawks next, right, yeah, we

909
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:25,560
Speaker 1: are that question for I got it. Oh, I got it.

910
00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:28,680
Speaker 1: I got one serious question. Okay, alright, alright, good to

911
00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:31,080
Speaker 1: know what's going to be the status of Sierra and

912
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:33,839
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson's relationship, because I think that's a huge don't

913
00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:38,279
Speaker 1: care it was. It survived the year. Now, it's not

914
00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:41,879
Speaker 1: gonna surrect. I mean, it's not real. It's all done

915
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:44,800
Speaker 1: for Russell Wilson to appear human, which he clearly is not.

916
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:47,439
Speaker 1: So they'll they'll take it as far as it goes.

917
00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:50,080
Speaker 1: And if there's too much pr back lessers, I think

918
00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:52,160
Speaker 1: there already is. People are kind of seeing through it.

919
00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:55,480
Speaker 1: They'll mutually write up a press release and announced that

920
00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:58,440
Speaker 1: the union is over. It's as bad as real as

921
00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:01,200
Speaker 1: the sandwich assesslor game. To hands us, that's just all

922
00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:05,680
Speaker 1: Hollywood especially, I wouldn't need that, alright, West, your Seahawks question,

923
00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:09,080
Speaker 1: Is this also about a pop star? No? Back to football? Yes?

924
00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:14,000
Speaker 1: Whoa Jimmy Graham one of the biggest enigmas in the NFL.

925
00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:16,560
Speaker 1: I mean, when he's fully healthy, one of the most

926
00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:20,480
Speaker 1: unstoppable players, one of the most unstoppable offense offensive forces

927
00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:23,200
Speaker 1: in the league. When he's not fully healthy, he disappears

928
00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:26,200
Speaker 1: for months at a time. Can Russell Wilson bring out

929
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:30,760
Speaker 1: the unstoppable Jimmy Graham. Isn't it more about can Jimmy

930
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:33,279
Speaker 1: Graham stay healthy? Because we've talked about once Jimmy Graham

931
00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:35,640
Speaker 1: gets how he hurt. He's one of those guys that

932
00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:38,239
Speaker 1: does not play through an injury well, and maybe he's

933
00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:41,040
Speaker 1: just not built for this type of this gig. It's

934
00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:43,479
Speaker 1: a fair question. My thinking was more along the lines

935
00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:45,640
Speaker 1: of whenever Russell Wilson is a big receiver, and we

936
00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:47,680
Speaker 1: saw this when he first came into the league, and

937
00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:50,000
Speaker 1: he would throw it up to Sydney Rice really accurately

938
00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:53,040
Speaker 1: down the field and let Sydney Rice's catch radius take

939
00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:55,879
Speaker 1: care of business. Chris Matthews and the Super Bowl last year,

940
00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:58,560
Speaker 1: I think Jimmy Graham is a godsender for Russell Wilson.

941
00:44:58,600 --> 00:45:01,160
Speaker 1: They match up so well together. My answer would be yes,

942
00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:04,600
Speaker 1: because Russell Wilson is awesome at throwing between the seams.

943
00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:06,120
Speaker 1: I mean, he's got to be one of the best

944
00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:08,640
Speaker 1: quarterbacks in the league at doing that, and Jimmy Graham

945
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:10,719
Speaker 1: is right there for him. I see no reason to

946
00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:13,479
Speaker 1: doubt it. I mean, again, forget the preseason, but looking

947
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:15,080
Speaker 1: at the last game they had, they were just not

948
00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:17,600
Speaker 1: on the same page. That might take a month for

949
00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:20,120
Speaker 1: them to kind of get that chemistry. Russell Wilson had

950
00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:22,279
Speaker 1: like twenty five yards passing at the end of that half,

951
00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:24,760
Speaker 1: and Jimmy Graham couldn't help. I don't think the Seahawks

952
00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:26,719
Speaker 1: are running their offense only that's fair, but it's just

953
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:28,839
Speaker 1: that even when the regular season comes, if they haven't

954
00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:30,640
Speaker 1: run the real offense and they're finally gonna start to

955
00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:33,120
Speaker 1: do it, just like an offensive line, Graham and Russell

956
00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:35,040
Speaker 1: arena need a little bit of time. All right, my turn.

957
00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:38,040
Speaker 1: Have we been too quick to write off the San

958
00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:41,959
Speaker 1: Francisco forty historic exodus? Of course, a lot of top

959
00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:44,879
Speaker 1: to your talent, but there's still some pieces in place.

960
00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:46,880
Speaker 1: And I think we talked about this on Monday. How

961
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:48,800
Speaker 1: do you not get a little bit excited about Navarro

962
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:51,759
Speaker 1: Bowman not just being healthy but the same guy before

963
00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:53,960
Speaker 1: knee surgery. Based on what we've seen in the preseason,

964
00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:56,120
Speaker 1: and there are some guys a couple of years ago,

965
00:45:56,480 --> 00:45:58,719
Speaker 1: Colin Kaepernick was a guy we saw is one maybe

966
00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:00,759
Speaker 1: a top ten quarterback in the league. He's still what

967
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:04,560
Speaker 1: seven years old. You have Vernon Davis, you have Tory

968
00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:06,879
Speaker 1: Smith there. Now there are some guys there have been.

969
00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:10,320
Speaker 1: Jared Haynes is there running through the tackles. Have we

970
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:11,920
Speaker 1: been too quick to say, oh, this is now a

971
00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:14,480
Speaker 1: five win team. No, there're a five win team. They've

972
00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:17,080
Speaker 1: got major issues. Look at their offensive line. It's a

973
00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:20,560
Speaker 1: disaster area problem. I'm not convinced that Cohn Kaepernis gonna

974
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:22,480
Speaker 1: have a good year. Nothing I've seen from him suggest

975
00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:24,919
Speaker 1: that he's learned how to be a touch passer. Jeep

976
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:27,279
Speaker 1: christ is their offensive coordinators. They lost a lot of

977
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:29,880
Speaker 1: coaching talent. That's a concern. But my answer to you is, yes,

978
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:32,319
Speaker 1: I think we've been too quick to write them up.

979
00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:33,759
Speaker 1: I think they could be a seven or eight win

980
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:36,280
Speaker 1: type of team that's in the mix and could surprise

981
00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:39,920
Speaker 1: some teams. That's you writing them off because seven right playoffs. Well,

982
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:42,560
Speaker 1: let me let me just make it clear what I'm with, Greg,

983
00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:45,439
Speaker 1: because I see people look at them as a laughing stock,

984
00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:48,000
Speaker 1: where I think they could be competitive. It wouldn't shock

985
00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:50,279
Speaker 1: me if they were. It wouldn't totally stunn me if

986
00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:52,040
Speaker 1: they're nine and seven or ten and six, and they

987
00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:54,520
Speaker 1: sneak into the playoffs like that, what's that? What's done me?

988
00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:56,359
Speaker 1: That's a little rich for me. But I think you're

989
00:46:56,400 --> 00:46:58,480
Speaker 1: coming from we were saying, oh, they're gonna be three

990
00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:01,200
Speaker 1: and thirteen. They're an absolute train wreck where them going

991
00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:03,400
Speaker 1: eight and eight eight and eight teams are really a

992
00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:05,560
Speaker 1: lot of times just five and eleven teams in disguise

993
00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:09,080
Speaker 1: where everything went right. So if that happened, I wouldn't

994
00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:12,239
Speaker 1: wouldn't be that surprising to me. Alrightly, Well, we wrap

995
00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:15,680
Speaker 1: up with the most exciting team in the league. Lewis

996
00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:19,680
Speaker 1: rams what a defense this is gonna be. But will

997
00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:22,360
Speaker 1: they be so good all for not because the offense

998
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:27,000
Speaker 1: is bad? And will Greg Williams then murder Frank Signetti? Yeah,

999
00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:29,839
Speaker 1: because of it? And if it happens, who's gonna solve

1000
00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:37,360
Speaker 1: the case problems problem that? Well, No, you need NFL.

1001
00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:39,879
Speaker 1: I mean, this is Greg Williams chance to get back

1002
00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:43,040
Speaker 1: into the NFL limelight if Signetti doesn't blow it. Yeah,

1003
00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:46,080
Speaker 1: we really need a Greg Williams redemption story in the NFL. Well,

1004
00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:49,360
Speaker 1: he's really caring the torch for the triple G. Greg's

1005
00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:51,400
Speaker 1: in the NFL. So I've always been well haven't we

1006
00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:53,520
Speaker 1: heard from IF IF, If, the If, the Seahawks and

1007
00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:55,720
Speaker 1: everyone else aren't showing their offense and I are the Rams.

1008
00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:58,279
Speaker 1: Haven't we heard all offseason from Rams players at this

1009
00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:01,879
Speaker 1: offense is much more creative. That guys are getting more opportunities.

1010
00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:04,560
Speaker 1: I hope, So, I hope. So that's what I'm remember,

1011
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:09,359
Speaker 1: believing that that Kenny Britt and Trey Watts are gonna

1012
00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:12,719
Speaker 1: lead this team. To come on, Trey Watts isn't even

1013
00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:15,040
Speaker 1: the best Trey in that backfield. He might be starting

1014
00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:17,600
Speaker 1: Week one, and it's Todd Gurley is healthy. All bets off.

1015
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:21,000
Speaker 1: Just say, just get us the seven and nine and

1016
00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:23,399
Speaker 1: let's go to Los Angeles. That's all Jeff wants. Jeff

1017
00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:26,120
Speaker 1: wants to be sitting in on the show during the offseason,

1018
00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:28,600
Speaker 1: just hamming it up with a big old stash. You

1019
00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:32,239
Speaker 1: guys aren't really buying into the murderous inclinations. I think

1020
00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:35,000
Speaker 1: it's more likely you murder Mike Schuler. Wait, this is

1021
00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:36,920
Speaker 1: a coach who once said that if you cut off

1022
00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:41,959
Speaker 1: the head, the offense will follow. That shadowy link figure

1023
00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:45,279
Speaker 1: is look that that's on tape. He said it. It's

1024
00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:47,080
Speaker 1: it's by the way, it's funny you bring up Frank

1025
00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:49,479
Speaker 1: Signetti because I do actually have a follow up question

1026
00:48:49,520 --> 00:48:52,960
Speaker 1: about the rams and it's related. Uh, let's bring that

1027
00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:58,319
Speaker 1: up TV on the Board, Ken Detective Frank Sinnetti clean

1028
00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:01,160
Speaker 1: up the streets of St. Louis, over come corruption within

1029
00:49:01,239 --> 00:49:03,360
Speaker 1: his own department, and find a way to relate to

1030
00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:08,279
Speaker 1: his headstrong teenage daughter from a previous relationship. I don't know. St.

1031
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:10,080
Speaker 1: Louis has been through some ups and downs. You've got

1032
00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:12,080
Speaker 1: a lot of cleaning up to do. Uh. The daughter

1033
00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:14,600
Speaker 1: part always tricky, A lot of moving parts there. He

1034
00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:17,600
Speaker 1: could have saved True Detective season two Frank Signetti if

1035
00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:19,959
Speaker 1: he was a character him and Greg Williams, how about

1036
00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:22,160
Speaker 1: that as you can't, I mean, and anything you could

1037
00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:25,200
Speaker 1: talk about it in our our careers as well, sometimes

1038
00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:27,680
Speaker 1: middle management or other figures get in the way of

1039
00:49:27,719 --> 00:49:29,600
Speaker 1: what you want. He deals with that with the St.

1040
00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:32,800
Speaker 1: Louis p D. Then he's got his daughter, Gloria, who's

1041
00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:35,400
Speaker 1: a really nice girl, sweet girl, but she's got the

1042
00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:38,120
Speaker 1: old man's stubborn weight. I see you, happy end, headstrong

1043
00:49:38,200 --> 00:49:42,400
Speaker 1: girl all right now, and I know about Gloria now

1044
00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:45,520
Speaker 1: it's time and it's a shame that marriage didn't work

1045
00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:51,239
Speaker 1: out because Frank and Judy. I thought there's still a

1046
00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:53,360
Speaker 1: kernel of love between them. You see that. And the

1047
00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:56,040
Speaker 1: thing I like about SIGNETI it's like, Okay, she's not

1048
00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:59,000
Speaker 1: living with him, but he's still a good fot. It

1049
00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:01,120
Speaker 1: doesn't mean that you not. It doesn't mean that you

1050
00:50:01,200 --> 00:50:03,440
Speaker 1: can't be a good father and love your daughter. Signetti

1051
00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:06,400
Speaker 1: goes ten seasons though the wife, the comeback with the

1052
00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:08,680
Speaker 1: wife thing, that is the season five material. You want

1053
00:50:08,680 --> 00:50:10,160
Speaker 1: to go to, Brank, are you married to me or

1054
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Speaker 1: your career? I mean that was a common refrain heard

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Speaker 1: that before. Alright, prediction time now for the NFC. We

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Speaker 1: will If Frank Signetti ever actually heard this podcast, he's like,

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Speaker 1: what world is going? Where? Where am I? Might be? Right?

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Speaker 1: All right, so let's go through our NFC predictions one

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Speaker 1: by one. Mark, We'll start with you give us your

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Speaker 1: four division winners, your two wild cards. Alright, division winners.

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Speaker 1: I go Seahawks out of the West, Packers out of

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Speaker 1: the North. I got the Eagles out of the East,

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Speaker 1: the Saints out of the South. And my two wild

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Speaker 1: card teams are the Detroit Lions, and I do believe

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Speaker 1: in them. The Arizona cardinal. This is basically the the

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Speaker 1: around the NFL chalk predict not chalk. But these are

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Speaker 1: our consensus picks as well. I believe Mark, you are

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Speaker 1: our consensus wells many different answers from the group. Let's see.

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Speaker 1: Let's see West, your turn. They should keep Marks list

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Speaker 1: up there, it's exact same one. I yea, yeah, this

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Speaker 1: is the exact same lost in the same order to

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Speaker 1: line up. Greg. Greg hates when people put the same

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Speaker 1: playoff teams in year. Have to by the way, your

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Speaker 1: predictions have always stunt. So one on, I should just

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Speaker 1: make up the rams are going to be good so

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Speaker 1: I can do something new. Look, teams are good, so

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Speaker 1: you make them. You predict that they're gonna be going.

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Speaker 1: You have Seahawks Eagles. No, you have Eagles as a

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Speaker 1: two seed. Mark doesn't have that. I mean we both

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Speaker 1: have the winners. I have the same exactly, I do

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Speaker 1: have them as a two seed, though. Yeah, that's a

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Speaker 1: little different. That's different. That's a big difference. Al right, West,

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Speaker 1: nice choices, Mark, also nice choices. Let's take a look

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Speaker 1: at my choices. I have the Seahawks again with the

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Speaker 1: number one seed for the third straight year. I have

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Speaker 1: the Packers at number two, the Eagles. I think we're

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Speaker 1: all high in the Eagles. It teams winning their division

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Speaker 1: with a really nice record at the Saints taking care

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Speaker 1: of business and a bad, crappy division, and then the

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Speaker 1: Lions and Vikings as them both is double digit win teams.

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Speaker 1: I think the Lions maybe even could sneak out of eleven.

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Speaker 1: I'm in on the lines Dallas for anyone so far,

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Speaker 1: and the Lions are not surprised and for all three teams,

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Speaker 1: so you're big changes. The Vikings get in instead of

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Speaker 1: the Cards. I'm a little down in the Cardinals, as

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Speaker 1: he talked about on Monday show. Greg your picks, uh,

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Speaker 1: my picks. I have the same top two teams. I

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Speaker 1: have the Seahawks and the Packers in that order, the

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Speaker 1: Eagles winning the NFC East. I have the Falcons getting

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Speaker 1: out of the NFC South, the Vikings, and then the

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Speaker 1: Rams as my six six teams. My theory here West

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Speaker 1: is that none of us know anything anyway, There's no

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Speaker 1: way to know, and so you kind of look for

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Speaker 1: teams that would logically be like a team that fills

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Speaker 1: a gap in a bad division, like I know is

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Speaker 1: I think it's very bold to put one of the

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Speaker 1: worst teams in football in the playoffs, the Rams. Greg,

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Speaker 1: you you've just talked about they won seven games with

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Speaker 1: Austin Davis and you're like your grandmother. They won. Is

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Speaker 1: Nick Foles better than Austin Davis? Yes, you've just the

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Speaker 1: defensive coordinator, you know, offing the offensive. That would that

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Speaker 1: would be a you know, a distraction. If that happens,

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Speaker 1: they overcome that. They'd have to overcome that. I said,

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Speaker 1: could it could happen if Signetti doesn't you know, I

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Speaker 1: don't think you should stop with the Rams. I think

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Speaker 1: you should put the Browns and the Titans in the

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Speaker 1: a f C playoffs. All right. I knew this was

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Speaker 1: gonna go down a bad road when Gregg said to West,

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Speaker 1: none of us know anything. The mailman doesn't like to

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Speaker 1: be told he doesn't know anything. Malman knows everything. No,

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Speaker 1: we I mean, I I agree that preseason is prime

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Speaker 1: season for you take a you take a lot of

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Speaker 1: conclusions out of stuff that you can't so in that sense,

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Speaker 1: he's right. But we can evaluate rosters and say the

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Speaker 1: Rams roster just isn't very strong defense. All right, let's

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Speaker 1: get out of here. I'm gonna have some of the

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Speaker 1: sandwich right now, congealed eggs. It's gonna be a little cold.

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Speaker 1: Can you get sick from cold eggs? You can get

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Speaker 1: sick from eggs. In general, the avocado looks pretty tasty. Mark,

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Speaker 1: thank you and Trent Richardson, thank you for not being

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Speaker 1: able to hit a hole. That that was, you know,

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Speaker 1: exciting watching Danny eat. That's good. All right, let's wrap

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Speaker 1: this thing up. All right, that's it. Let's get out

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Speaker 1: of here. This is um right, let me swallow. That's paid.

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Speaker 1: When are you gonna get the water for us? T D.

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Speaker 1: This is Dan hands Is signing off for the Quiet Storm,

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Speaker 1: the Mailman, the Boss, TV, and everybody else behind the glass.

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Speaker 1: We will be back on Friday with our AMC preview

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Speaker 1: and then we roll into the big week, So get

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Speaker 1: excited around. The NFL podcast is over.