1 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:11,559 Speaker 1: This is straight Fire with Jason McIntyre. What is up, 2 00:00:11,600 --> 00:00:18,200 Speaker 1: straight Fire fan, It's me Jason McIntyre. Straight Fire for Thursday, November. 3 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:24,160 Speaker 1: A week away from thanks Giving, four days away from 4 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:27,720 Speaker 1: the start of the World Cup. It's getting crazy. November 5 00:00:27,880 --> 00:00:29,600 Speaker 1: gonna be off the hook. We've been telling you about 6 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 1: it for a while. This weekend in particular is going 7 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:35,360 Speaker 1: to be bonkers. So to set you up, we are 8 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:40,280 Speaker 1: starting off with a great interview Sam monson Pro Football Focus. Folks, 9 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:43,360 Speaker 1: if you want to know why Josh Allen is struggling, 10 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:47,080 Speaker 1: listen to the interview what sam Onnson. If you want 11 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:52,640 Speaker 1: to know why some coaches can make it and maybe 12 00:00:52,680 --> 00:00:55,880 Speaker 1: Jeff Saturday has a chance, you'll like this interview with 13 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:58,760 Speaker 1: Sam Onnson a Pro Football Focus. We break down some 14 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 1: of the better games of the week, some of the 15 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 1: better matchups. Obviously Jets Patriots high on the list. You 16 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:08,679 Speaker 1: know it. It's the biggest game this weekend, folks. My 17 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:12,319 Speaker 1: son has a volleyball tournament Sunday. It looks like I'm 18 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 1: gonna be going and you know, I got red zone 19 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:17,200 Speaker 1: locked in. They have a if it's at the same 20 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:19,840 Speaker 1: facility as last time, they have like a snack bar 21 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 1: and they have a bunch of TVs. Last time I 22 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 1: asked the guy for NFL, He's like, oh, the manager's 23 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:26,959 Speaker 1: not here. I was like, bro, go find the manager. 24 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:30,679 Speaker 1: Come on. They eventually got red Zone. But I feel 25 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 1: like I need the ISO cam on Jets Patriots. I 26 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 1: need to watch the whole thing. It's everything for the Jets. 27 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:37,319 Speaker 1: I know you guys don't really care, but that's my squad. 28 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:39,399 Speaker 1: So I'm gonna be fired up. Um So we'll get 29 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 1: to say a monson a little bit. We'll do a 30 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 1: best bet at the end of the podcast for Titans 31 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:48,280 Speaker 1: pack Us. Weird that Packers are favored by three. Titans 32 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 1: are so much better with the best bet. Just wait. 33 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 1: But first, before I get to Monson, I have a theory. 34 00:01:57,640 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 1: It's a working theory. I'm work shopping it, as they 35 00:01:59,880 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 1: say in the industry, and it revolves around Kevin Durant. 36 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:10,800 Speaker 1: So you guys saw the article Kevin Durant gave an 37 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:17,640 Speaker 1: exclusive interview to Chris Haynes of TNT bleacher a hybrid 38 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 1: of those. He's had a lot of things. It's it's 39 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:22,880 Speaker 1: moderately interesting, but basically it's Kevin Durant talking for the 40 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:26,840 Speaker 1: first time in a while. But you guys know how 41 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:30,440 Speaker 1: this game works. Okay, I've been in a game, and 42 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:35,680 Speaker 1: when I started the website, I was already in sports media, 43 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 1: and you would see how the sausage gets made, behind 44 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 1: the scenes, why the sausage gets made at certain times. 45 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:46,920 Speaker 1: Very interesting stuff. And I think, without a doubt, the 46 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 1: biggest question of the Kevin Durant story is why did 47 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 1: Kevin Durant talk to Chris Haynes Now? Why? Now? The 48 00:02:57,480 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 1: timing is everything, and I'm gonna just again, I'm work 49 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:03,639 Speaker 1: shopping this. It's not quite a conspiracy theory, but I'm 50 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 1: putting something together here. So the Warriors lost again last 51 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 1: night to the Suns. Phoenix is without Chris Paul didn't matter. 52 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:14,360 Speaker 1: Steph Curry had no help at all. Eight fifty points 53 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:22,040 Speaker 1: for Chef Curry fifty and Golden States still lost. Okay, 54 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 1: he's getting no help. Warriors are struggling. They are six 55 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:30,960 Speaker 1: and nine, They are owen, eight winless away from Oracle. 56 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:34,400 Speaker 1: Despite step Curry playing out of his mind, he listen, 57 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 1: you dropped fifty seven threes like you gotta. It should 58 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:42,720 Speaker 1: be an automatic win. Supporting cast is not getting it done. 59 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 1: Jordan Pool folks. You know, I'm a Jordan pool guy. 60 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 1: Got the bag twenty five minutes over five zero points 61 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:54,600 Speaker 1: two points. He made two free throws, folks. Kevin Duran 62 00:03:54,680 --> 00:04:00,160 Speaker 1: gives an interview, says a lot of stuff that's know, 63 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:04,320 Speaker 1: not super relevant. The most interesting thing was, yo, look 64 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 1: at our starting lineup. We got Nick Claxton, Kevin Durant, 65 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 1: um Edward Sumner. Nobody even knows who that is. Yeah, 66 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 1: I think he was an Xavier point guard. Bottom line 67 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:20,599 Speaker 1: is he's like, no disrespect, but how good can we be? Okay, 68 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 1: A couple of days ago, I think it was Saturday 69 00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 1: or Sunday, Durant went on social media and pumped up 70 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:29,599 Speaker 1: Steph Curry. Damn Steph Curry is a bad man or 71 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:31,600 Speaker 1: whatever he wrote on social Of course it goes viral 72 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:34,840 Speaker 1: and all these websites right about so let's put let's 73 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 1: put the breadcrumbs together. Nets fire Nash. They tried to 74 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:47,599 Speaker 1: get Udoka, didn't happen because of Kyrie, and they settle 75 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 1: on Jack Vaughan, who was already assistant coach. So it's weird. 76 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:53,480 Speaker 1: But Kevin Durant, in the interview with Bleacher Report, really 77 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:57,799 Speaker 1: slanders the Nets coaching staff without saying so much. Basically, 78 00:04:57,880 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 1: they're not practicing. They're not they're not grinding the guy's hard. 79 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:04,160 Speaker 1: They're not holding them accountable, and it's just weird. It's like, 80 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:07,839 Speaker 1: wait a minute, they just kept Jacque Vaughan from this 81 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:11,720 Speaker 1: coaching staff that was not holding anybody accountable. Huh. So 82 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 1: Kevin Durant pumping up stuff Korea on social media. There 83 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 1: were the rumors after Kevin Durant asked for a trade 84 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:24,160 Speaker 1: about a return to the Warriors. Kevin Durant gives an 85 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:29,360 Speaker 1: interview where he slanders the coaching staff without really calling 86 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:31,360 Speaker 1: out anybody. He doesn't even call out Nash. At one 87 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 1: point he kind of says like, I even talked to 88 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 1: Steve Nash and I was like, huh, they just got 89 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 1: a guy from that coaching staff, Okay. Kyrie Irving. No 90 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 1: real end insight, although late on Wednesday a report came 91 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:49,360 Speaker 1: out from Woes. The timing, of course, is beautiful. Right 92 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 1: after Kevin Durant gives this what the hell are we doing? 93 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 1: What's going on? All of a sudden, the nets are 94 00:05:56,560 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 1: close to reinstateing Kyrie Irving. Kevin Durant essentially gave that 95 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:04,559 Speaker 1: interview as a cry for help. I want out, get 96 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:07,880 Speaker 1: me out of here. That's how I read that interview. 97 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 1: And when you look at the Warrior struggles again six 98 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 1: and nine, they sent Wiseman down to the G League. 99 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 1: Kominga bounced from the rotation. Mhmm, wait a minute, is 100 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:26,480 Speaker 1: there a chance Kevin Durant can say to the Warriors, 101 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 1: you guys, you guys want to repeat if you want 102 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 1: to have a shot of repeat, because you're gonna need help. 103 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 1: You have no defense and Steph has no help. Come 104 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 1: get me. Also adding to the drama, Clay Thompson, interestingly, 105 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:46,480 Speaker 1: another guy who doesn't do a ton of media, gives 106 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 1: this weird, lengthy rambling interview where he's a little defensive 107 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:54,760 Speaker 1: and it's like like nobody comes back from what I 108 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:57,240 Speaker 1: came back from. Essentially because he knows that he does 109 00:06:57,279 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 1: on he's not delivering, he's not playing well. He's not 110 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:01,920 Speaker 1: the defensive stopper was, He's just Clay Thompson is off 111 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 1: to a rough start. This is also the organization where 112 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 1: Draymond Green punched out Jordan Pool before the season started. Okay, 113 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:14,520 Speaker 1: so you add all this up, add it all together again. 114 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 1: Clay's numbers, it's early small sample size. A lot of 115 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 1: people expected it to bounce back because he didn't play 116 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:22,680 Speaker 1: a full season last year. Clay shooting thirty percent from 117 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 1: the field, by far, the worst of his career. He's 118 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 1: never shot under not even as a rookie out of 119 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:33,320 Speaker 1: Washington State. From three, He's shooting thirty by far, the 120 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:35,960 Speaker 1: worst from deep he's ever done. Even from the foul line, 121 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 1: where Clay was automatic, he shot eight better his entire career, 122 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:43,920 Speaker 1: He's sev Now he's barely getting to the line. He's 123 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 1: never been a high volume free throw guy, but he's 124 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 1: getting to the line the fewest times in his career. 125 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:53,240 Speaker 1: I don't want to say Clay's broken, but again, the 126 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:58,440 Speaker 1: dude is now thirty two, thirty three in February. He's 127 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 1: obviously still immensely value. Adding it all up, and I'm 128 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 1: sorry to ramble. I am wondering, is there a scenario 129 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:10,680 Speaker 1: where the Brooklyn Nets say, Katie don't want to be here, 130 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 1: Kyrie is not going to be here after this year. 131 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 1: We don't know what the hell Ben Simmons is. Should 132 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 1: we try to get a bunch of young guys. We 133 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:20,920 Speaker 1: have no picks coming down the pike because of the 134 00:08:20,960 --> 00:08:24,000 Speaker 1: harden deal. We have no picks. Could we get just 135 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 1: young guys? Can we get Kuminga? We will, We'll get Kuminga. 136 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 1: Could we get Kuminga and wisen Komingo, Wisenan and Clay 137 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:34,600 Speaker 1: for Kevin Durant And I'm sure the Golden State would 138 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 1: have to put in more. And I know Nets fans 139 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:38,320 Speaker 1: are gonna be like, get the hell out of here. 140 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:41,000 Speaker 1: Why would we want koming and wisen Well, you have 141 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:44,840 Speaker 1: no bigs whatsoever? Wise and will play? I don't do 142 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 1: we know if he's good. I don't know. Maybe it 143 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:48,560 Speaker 1: just doesn't fit the Warriors. It could just be that 144 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 1: he's not a good fit in Golden State. Komingo Bouncy 145 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:53,840 Speaker 1: love him. You're getting two guys under twenty two years 146 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:58,480 Speaker 1: old who were top ten picks and Clay And again 147 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 1: I don't know what Clay does on her team with 148 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:06,520 Speaker 1: Joe Harrison, um who else? Like a Seth Curry. I 149 00:09:06,559 --> 00:09:08,120 Speaker 1: don't know how you worked at in but the option 150 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:09,920 Speaker 1: if you say, well we don't want Clay Thompson with 151 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 1: the Nets, okay, can you pride Draymond? Are they giving 152 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 1: up Draymond Green? I don't know. I think they had 153 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:19,400 Speaker 1: a chance to give him up right around the time 154 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 1: of the Jordan Pool and said if they didn't, I 155 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:24,560 Speaker 1: think you on a team with horrendous defense. I think 156 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:29,000 Speaker 1: you got you gotta keep Draymond. Now do you insert 157 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:31,720 Speaker 1: Jordan Pool in the starting lineup? Who goes to the bench? 158 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 1: Do you? Obviously you can't. You gotta start kd So 159 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:39,559 Speaker 1: I just I'm of the belief that Kevin Durant is 160 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:43,080 Speaker 1: not going to end this season in Brooklyn. I think 161 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:46,000 Speaker 1: he will be shipped by the deadline. If you're the Nets, 162 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 1: you have no picks in the future. You are not 163 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:53,679 Speaker 1: making the playoffs this year. It doesn't appear that way. 164 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:56,600 Speaker 1: We'll see Kyrie and Kadi come back, maybe they turn 165 00:09:56,679 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 1: things around, but this is six and nine, Like, I mean, 166 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 1: what's the point of getting to the play in If 167 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:06,520 Speaker 1: you're the Brooklyn Nets, I hate You're not getting by Boston. 168 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:11,040 Speaker 1: They swept your ass. Okay, you're not getting by the Bucks. 169 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:13,920 Speaker 1: They might sweep you to the bottom line is the 170 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:16,880 Speaker 1: Nest just are not good. There's Ben Simmons rumblings like 171 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:20,080 Speaker 1: I think you're I think you've gotta trade Kevin Durrett. 172 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:23,720 Speaker 1: This is where we're headed. Kevin Durant probably gonna end 173 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:27,680 Speaker 1: up getting traded. Now, is he going to go to 174 00:10:27,720 --> 00:10:32,079 Speaker 1: Golden State? We'll see if you're the Brooklyn If you're 175 00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 1: the Brooklyn Nest, do you call it the Lakers and say, hey, 176 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:37,200 Speaker 1: Anthony Davis, what what do you what's the word on 177 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:39,320 Speaker 1: a D? I don't know if you want to build 178 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:42,440 Speaker 1: around a D. I think the two things that the 179 00:10:42,480 --> 00:10:46,040 Speaker 1: brooklyn Nets need more than anything young talent and draft picks. 180 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:48,439 Speaker 1: And I don't know how many picks are getting for Katie, 181 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:52,440 Speaker 1: and there's not a lot of young talent people are 182 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:54,920 Speaker 1: willing to ship out of town. I would keep an 183 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:58,120 Speaker 1: eye on the Golden State Warriors looking to make a 184 00:10:58,160 --> 00:11:02,800 Speaker 1: move because this idle defense. At six and nine, they are, 185 00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 1: I believe, tied with the Spurs for the third worst 186 00:11:06,080 --> 00:11:10,959 Speaker 1: record in the West. It's Rockets, Lakers, Warriors. Nobody had that, 187 00:11:11,679 --> 00:11:15,360 Speaker 1: and fortunately nobody's really pulling away. But Portland is better 188 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 1: than we thought, Utah is better than we thought. I'm 189 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:21,840 Speaker 1: sure Water will find its level in by January one, 190 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:24,640 Speaker 1: those two will probably be closer to five than top 191 00:11:24,679 --> 00:11:27,800 Speaker 1: three in the West. But I think the Golden State 192 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 1: Warriors need to seriously consider making a move because these 193 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:34,080 Speaker 1: young guys, I don't know how much anger you can 194 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:36,800 Speaker 1: deal with this. They just aren't delivering all right. Without 195 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 1: further ado, let's get to our guests Profitotball Focus is 196 00:11:39,800 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 1: sam monson Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk 197 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:46,800 Speaker 1: lineup in the nation. Catch all of our shows at 198 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:50,160 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio dot com and within the I Heart 199 00:11:50,280 --> 00:11:57,240 Speaker 1: Radio app search f s R to listen live. Jason 200 00:11:57,320 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 1: likes to think he knows everything when it comes to awards. 201 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:03,920 Speaker 1: I know what sports dance want, but for everything he doesn't. 202 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:07,200 Speaker 1: He knows a guy who does. Let's just say I 203 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:11,320 Speaker 1: know a guy who knows a guy another guy. Okay, 204 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 1: time to welcome in a special guest from Pro Football Focus. 205 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:17,000 Speaker 1: He's been on the pod before. You guys like the accent. 206 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:20,800 Speaker 1: He brings a certain culture to the show, raises the 207 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:24,920 Speaker 1: level of discord. Sam monson Pro Football Focus, How you doing? Man? Good? Good? 208 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:26,960 Speaker 1: We're in trouble though. If I'm bringing culture to the 209 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:31,880 Speaker 1: show like that, somebody has to UM listen. NFL is 210 00:12:31,880 --> 00:12:35,080 Speaker 1: getting crazy. We're past the midway point, had a couple 211 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:37,880 Speaker 1: of coaches fired. I didn't know if I wanted to 212 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:41,560 Speaker 1: lead with Jeff Saturday or not. Um but you know 213 00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:44,320 Speaker 1: it's funny. I came up. I was at Fox today 214 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:47,720 Speaker 1: or well, we're recording this on Wednesday, and someone was 215 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:50,840 Speaker 1: playing audio of something we went down in the Colts 216 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 1: locker room, where the first thing Jeff Saturday did was 217 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:56,600 Speaker 1: call out a couple of their best players. I was like, 218 00:12:56,640 --> 00:12:58,400 Speaker 1: the first thing he did, he came in, called him out, 219 00:12:58,400 --> 00:13:00,680 Speaker 1: and people are like, oh, Ship, we got we gotta 220 00:13:00,679 --> 00:13:03,840 Speaker 1: get get her act together. But that's information I did 221 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:06,440 Speaker 1: not have beforehand. I thought the Colts were toasted. I 222 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:09,400 Speaker 1: love the Raiders last week and Jeff Saturday comes in 223 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:12,320 Speaker 1: off the street Sam and gets the win on the road. 224 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:16,800 Speaker 1: Does this mean that coaches are maybe not as valuable 225 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:18,600 Speaker 1: in the NFL as we once thought or is that 226 00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:21,160 Speaker 1: too much of an overreaction of one damn game. Yeah? 227 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:22,600 Speaker 1: I don't even it means that. I mean, first of all, 228 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:25,240 Speaker 1: they beat the Raiders, right, who are as bad as 229 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:27,440 Speaker 1: they are, who are in their own kind of crisis, 230 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:30,679 Speaker 1: only because they just hired their head coach. Um. You know, 231 00:13:30,720 --> 00:13:32,560 Speaker 1: at the start of this season, it's not quite as 232 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:35,920 Speaker 1: acute that nobody's drop kicking Josh McDaniels out of the building. 233 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:38,520 Speaker 1: And if you listen to certain reports, they can't even 234 00:13:38,520 --> 00:13:40,320 Speaker 1: afford to get rid of them even if they wanted to, 235 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:43,280 Speaker 1: So you know, that's first. The first point is that 236 00:13:43,320 --> 00:13:46,840 Speaker 1: they beat a band team as well, so it's that's 237 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:49,840 Speaker 1: one thing, um, But I do think it means that. Look, 238 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:55,840 Speaker 1: if head coach is not necessarily an XS and O schematic, 239 00:13:56,120 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 1: you know, hardcore coaching kind of gig, it is more 240 00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:04,120 Speaker 1: about CEO man management, setting a culture, you know, those 241 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:07,240 Speaker 1: kinds of things, which is why it's so difficult to 242 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:10,360 Speaker 1: pick good head coaches right, because it doesn't just follow 243 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:12,720 Speaker 1: that if you're a great coordinator, you're a great football guy, 244 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:14,960 Speaker 1: you're gonna be a great coach, because there's so much 245 00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:17,560 Speaker 1: more to it and so many more different things that 246 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:20,840 Speaker 1: are more important. And that's why guys like Josh McDaniels 247 00:14:20,880 --> 00:14:23,880 Speaker 1: apparently can't do the job right in two different places. 248 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:26,760 Speaker 1: He might be a football savant, and even the guys 249 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:29,000 Speaker 1: that have played under him and don't like him from 250 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:32,840 Speaker 1: the first time around happily concede that all of those guys, 251 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:36,240 Speaker 1: Brandon Marshall, whoever, will tell you that he's an amazing 252 00:14:36,280 --> 00:14:39,560 Speaker 1: football mind. But the problem that they have with him 253 00:14:39,720 --> 00:14:42,840 Speaker 1: is the leadership. It's the setting the culture, it's the 254 00:14:42,920 --> 00:14:46,040 Speaker 1: leading of men. And if Saturday can do that part, 255 00:14:46,160 --> 00:14:48,640 Speaker 1: then it doesn't matter if he's been, you know, spending 256 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:52,160 Speaker 1: the last ten years getting his coaching credentials in terms 257 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:54,840 Speaker 1: of xs and ohs, because other people will do that part, 258 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:57,720 Speaker 1: Like you'll have coordinators under him whose job it is 259 00:14:57,760 --> 00:15:01,480 Speaker 1: to to sort that part of the game. Interesting. I 260 00:15:01,560 --> 00:15:03,920 Speaker 1: kind of like that take. Now, speaking of CEOs or 261 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:08,520 Speaker 1: lack thereof Nathaniel Hackett, who I listen again, this is 262 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:10,880 Speaker 1: I had too bad with this past weekend. The Tennessee 263 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:13,800 Speaker 1: Titans Broncos. Everything was set up for them, Titans a 264 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:18,200 Speaker 1: mash unit defensively, Hackett comes out and it's just punt punt, punt, punt, 265 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 1: punt out of the by no less And at this point, 266 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:24,000 Speaker 1: you know, Sam, I don't want to be body language expert, 267 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 1: but I look at Russell Wilson on the sideline and 268 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:28,760 Speaker 1: the Judes just sitting there kind of isolated. It's got 269 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:31,960 Speaker 1: his jacket on, no fire, no emotion, no not really 270 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:34,960 Speaker 1: talking to anybody. It just feels like it's it's over 271 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:38,560 Speaker 1: in Denver and Nathaniel Hackett can't do anything. Yeah, and 272 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:41,160 Speaker 1: the problem is they're kind of stuck with Russell Wilson 273 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:44,080 Speaker 1: for a while because of the contract that they signed 274 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:46,680 Speaker 1: him to, the extension, Like they can't get out of 275 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:49,200 Speaker 1: this anytime soon. They can't get out of it this year. 276 00:15:49,240 --> 00:15:51,800 Speaker 1: Certainly they can't get out of it next year. Financially, 277 00:15:51,920 --> 00:15:55,560 Speaker 1: They're probably stuck with Russell Wilson to at least four 278 00:15:55,720 --> 00:15:59,160 Speaker 1: and even then it would be constantly to move on from. 279 00:15:59,240 --> 00:16:03,600 Speaker 1: So they are have all kinds of problems in figuring 280 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:07,000 Speaker 1: out how this is gonna work because something obviously has 281 00:16:07,040 --> 00:16:10,320 Speaker 1: to change the combination of Russell Wilson and Nathaniel Hackett 282 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:12,800 Speaker 1: and the whole thing this year has been a disaster 283 00:16:13,520 --> 00:16:16,440 Speaker 1: and only one of those things, you know, they're kind 284 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:19,800 Speaker 1: of stuck with going forward. So as much as the Raiders, 285 00:16:20,120 --> 00:16:23,600 Speaker 1: the hot seat under Josh McDaniels might be real, the 286 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 1: Jeff Saturday thing Indianapolis, Nathaniel Hackett might have a real 287 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:30,160 Speaker 1: hot seat under him as well, simply because he's the 288 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:33,080 Speaker 1: easier thing to shift in that dynamic. Like you can't 289 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:36,320 Speaker 1: change Russell Wilson, You're stuck with him. So if Russ 290 00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:38,880 Speaker 1: and the coach isn't working, the coaches the guy that 291 00:16:38,920 --> 00:16:42,560 Speaker 1: has to go um. But I think the Russell Wilson 292 00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:46,280 Speaker 1: problems are not simply Nathaniel Hackett in his offense, Like 293 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:49,200 Speaker 1: it is something that Russell Wilson is bringing to the 294 00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:51,680 Speaker 1: table as well, and it's been moving in that direction 295 00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 1: for a while. I think the shift in NFL defenses, 296 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:57,520 Speaker 1: you know, more of this too high kind of coverages, 297 00:16:57,560 --> 00:17:00,280 Speaker 1: all those kinds of things have made it worse. Those 298 00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:02,920 Speaker 1: are the defenses that Russell Wilson struggled against the most 299 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:06,280 Speaker 1: anyway back in his time in Seattle. So I think, 300 00:17:06,320 --> 00:17:09,280 Speaker 1: really we're just looking at this perfect storm that is 301 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:11,679 Speaker 1: causing Russell Wilson to play worse than he's ever played 302 00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:16,080 Speaker 1: before in a system that is not helping. Wow. So uh, 303 00:17:16,280 --> 00:17:18,119 Speaker 1: you know, do we know this about Russ before that 304 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:20,520 Speaker 1: he was really bad against the too high and the 305 00:17:20,560 --> 00:17:23,000 Speaker 1: Broncos have done nothing to stem that. Well, if you 306 00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:25,639 Speaker 1: think about, you know, the the tail end of his 307 00:17:25,680 --> 00:17:28,680 Speaker 1: Seattle career, right and even when he was playing really well, 308 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:31,520 Speaker 1: but he ran into the rams a couple of times 309 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:34,480 Speaker 1: when they were Brandon Staley was running the defense and 310 00:17:34,520 --> 00:17:36,359 Speaker 1: it was like Russell Wilson had no idea what to 311 00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:39,280 Speaker 1: do with the ball um and that happened. The worst 312 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:41,960 Speaker 1: games he played in the last sort of period of 313 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:44,840 Speaker 1: his Seattle career were against Brandon Staley, and they were 314 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:47,639 Speaker 1: against you know, another team or two that played that 315 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:50,400 Speaker 1: style of defense, which not that many teams were doing 316 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:52,800 Speaker 1: at the time, but that's the way the league has 317 00:17:52,840 --> 00:17:56,200 Speaker 1: gone now, Like that's the direction. That type of defense 318 00:17:56,320 --> 00:17:57,960 Speaker 1: is way more in vogue now than it was a 319 00:17:57,960 --> 00:18:01,400 Speaker 1: couple of years ago, and I think that directly causes 320 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:04,480 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson problems. Like that the style of play that 321 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:08,160 Speaker 1: he likes, which is, you know, drop back, ad lib, 322 00:18:08,359 --> 00:18:10,520 Speaker 1: try and buy some time back there, and then deliver 323 00:18:10,560 --> 00:18:13,240 Speaker 1: a bomb deep down the sideline, like those players aren't 324 00:18:13,280 --> 00:18:16,200 Speaker 1: there when you're running these two high type coverage shells. 325 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:18,560 Speaker 1: I feel like the only time I've seen him hit 326 00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:20,159 Speaker 1: a bomb was against the Raiders. I don't know if 327 00:18:20,119 --> 00:18:22,280 Speaker 1: you remember, he had like a fifty yard touchdown. They 328 00:18:22,280 --> 00:18:23,879 Speaker 1: were in the game for like three minutes after that 329 00:18:23,920 --> 00:18:26,280 Speaker 1: and that was it. But um, it's interesting you mentioned 330 00:18:26,280 --> 00:18:28,920 Speaker 1: the too high Josh Allen three weeks in a row 331 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:31,440 Speaker 1: now has really struggled in the second half that I 332 00:18:31,480 --> 00:18:34,159 Speaker 1: believe the Bills don't have a second half touchdown against 333 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:37,760 Speaker 1: the Packers um or there are other last two games 334 00:18:37,760 --> 00:18:39,919 Speaker 1: and it's one of those situations Sam where it's like, 335 00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:43,400 Speaker 1: wait a minute, the Bills really stink in the second half. 336 00:18:43,560 --> 00:18:47,080 Speaker 1: Is the too high shell bothering Josh Allen because we're 337 00:18:47,119 --> 00:18:50,159 Speaker 1: not seeing those sixty yard bombs to Gabe Davis and 338 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:53,400 Speaker 1: Stefan Digs anymore? What if if that's not it? What's 339 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:56,160 Speaker 1: going on with Josh Allen? Yeah? I think overall there's 340 00:18:56,160 --> 00:18:58,280 Speaker 1: been a little bit of a fight bank of defenses 341 00:18:58,320 --> 00:19:01,560 Speaker 1: throughout the NFL. And it's not, you know, just Russell Wilson. 342 00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:05,240 Speaker 1: It's not just Josh Allen. Like generally, quarterback plays down 343 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:07,640 Speaker 1: the league over um and there's a couple of guys 344 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:10,400 Speaker 1: that are bucking that trend and still playing amazingly. Patrick 345 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:13,440 Speaker 1: Mahomes obviously being one of them. Tour and the Dolphins 346 00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:15,800 Speaker 1: seemed to have discovered like a cheap code for offense 347 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:19,400 Speaker 1: that nobody else has UM, But everybody else is kind 348 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:21,639 Speaker 1: of grinding this year and trying to get through it 349 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:24,639 Speaker 1: and just not playing the way they usually have. Alan. 350 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:29,040 Speaker 1: I think it's just making uncharacteristic mistakes and maybe some 351 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:31,520 Speaker 1: of the some of the plays are too high coverage. 352 00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:34,000 Speaker 1: Hell has taken away that kind of the aggressive plays 353 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:35,919 Speaker 1: that he wants to make, but he still made a 354 00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:38,480 Speaker 1: lot of those, and it doesn't, I don't think, explain 355 00:19:39,320 --> 00:19:42,679 Speaker 1: just the random bad decisions that he's making. I mean, 356 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:45,399 Speaker 1: he tossed the ball right to Sauce Gardner in the 357 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:48,000 Speaker 1: Jets game. That looked when you looked at it live, 358 00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:49,479 Speaker 1: it was like, oh, that must have been some kind 359 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:53,199 Speaker 1: of disguised coverage because it was so bad. There had 360 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:54,960 Speaker 1: to be something different. And then you watch it and 361 00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:57,560 Speaker 1: it really wasn't. Like he just pitched the ball to 362 00:19:57,640 --> 00:20:00,840 Speaker 1: a cover two corner, dropping into that zone. And that's like. 363 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:03,400 Speaker 1: He's been doing that this season a lot, like three 364 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:06,800 Speaker 1: games at least where he's had several of those plays, 365 00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:10,639 Speaker 1: and those plays are kind of reminiscent of, you know, 366 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:12,960 Speaker 1: the first two years of Josh Allen's career. Now he's 367 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:15,360 Speaker 1: not that guy again because he's still making a ton 368 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:18,680 Speaker 1: of big plays. His baseline is much higher, he's more accurate, 369 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:22,399 Speaker 1: but those bad decisions are kind of they remind you 370 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:25,440 Speaker 1: a lot of that the first iteration of Josh Allen. 371 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:28,800 Speaker 1: So it's almost not a direct apples apples, but what 372 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:31,520 Speaker 1: was Mahomes was struggling with last year. I think it 373 00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:33,800 Speaker 1: was the Tennessee game maybe started it or that was 374 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:36,600 Speaker 1: when it was exacerbated. Was the too high shell and 375 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:40,800 Speaker 1: they slowed Mahomes for like a month maybe six weeks. Yeah. No, 376 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:44,040 Speaker 1: that that absolutely I think was the start of the 377 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:46,560 Speaker 1: league sort of taking a look at this and saying, hey, 378 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:49,600 Speaker 1: if this can slow down Patrick Mahomes and the Chiefs, 379 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:51,879 Speaker 1: I mean, it's got to be applicable to pretty much 380 00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:54,760 Speaker 1: everybody else. I think that was definitely part of the 381 00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:58,080 Speaker 1: league moving in that direction. So which brings us to 382 00:20:58,160 --> 00:21:00,800 Speaker 1: TA And you know, listen, I gotta give credit. McDaniel 383 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:04,000 Speaker 1: has been unbelievable as a first year coach. He has 384 00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:06,520 Speaker 1: I mean, I know Dables in the Coach of the 385 00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:09,560 Speaker 1: Year mix, but I think McDaniel has been incredible. Man. 386 00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:12,440 Speaker 1: I mean Dables some smoke in mirrors, But what McDaniel's 387 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:16,040 Speaker 1: doing with to Tyreek Waddle, that offense is unbelievable. What 388 00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:18,880 Speaker 1: can stop them now? Or am I overreacting because they're 389 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:21,360 Speaker 1: beating up on bad teams? No? I think that offense 390 00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:24,080 Speaker 1: looks fantastic. I mean I think statistically, depending on what 391 00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:26,360 Speaker 1: you look at, Kansas City is still the number one 392 00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:28,760 Speaker 1: offense in the NFL. But if you do that trick 393 00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:31,440 Speaker 1: that everybody's doing for Miami, you know that that to 394 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:34,800 Speaker 1: in games where to have started and finished or undefeated. 395 00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:36,760 Speaker 1: Right if you do the same thing for the offense, 396 00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:39,360 Speaker 1: they have the number one offense in the NFL. Um 397 00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:43,640 Speaker 1: so they look absolutely terrifying right now. The offensive line 398 00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:45,280 Speaker 1: has gone from one of the worst in the league 399 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:47,760 Speaker 1: too middle of the pack, which is all it needed 400 00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:51,000 Speaker 1: to do to to make everything else function. The things 401 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:54,000 Speaker 1: that Mike McDaniel is doing schematically, I think are are smart. 402 00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:57,639 Speaker 1: They're adding to the talent level that's there, and the 403 00:21:57,680 --> 00:22:01,920 Speaker 1: talent level of spectacular. Like Tyreek Kale is the most 404 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:05,960 Speaker 1: unique athlete in the NFL at that position. Nobody can 405 00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:10,480 Speaker 1: rival that combination of speed, quickness, and the ability to 406 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:13,040 Speaker 1: attack the ball at the catchpoint, like for a small guy. 407 00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:15,920 Speaker 1: He's incredible with the ball in the air. He goes 408 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:17,800 Speaker 1: and gets it. He doesn't wait for it to come 409 00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:20,000 Speaker 1: to him. And if there's a receiver in the NFL 410 00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:23,000 Speaker 1: closest to him, it's Jalen Waddle and they both play 411 00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:26,960 Speaker 1: on the same team. So like this offense with two 412 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:29,120 Speaker 1: a quarterback I think it's different when Ted He's there, 413 00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:32,120 Speaker 1: different when Scarlett Thompson is there, But when twas there, 414 00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:34,280 Speaker 1: I think this offense is as good as anything in 415 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:38,959 Speaker 1: the league. Wow. Um. I also thought Myles Garrett and Clowney, 416 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:41,000 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, they're gonna have a field day against 417 00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:43,920 Speaker 1: his Dolphins tackles. They didn't have a quarterback hit. Nope. 418 00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:46,720 Speaker 1: I don't think any pressures. It was a stunning how 419 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:49,960 Speaker 1: good that offensive line was, which makes Miami scary. But 420 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:52,520 Speaker 1: Sam part of me is still like, listen, man, we 421 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:55,720 Speaker 1: have a two year sample of to A being not 422 00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:57,640 Speaker 1: nearly this good. Can we wait for him to play 423 00:22:57,680 --> 00:23:00,760 Speaker 1: the Niners, Chargers, Bills, Jets. Know he's got some tough 424 00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:03,320 Speaker 1: games coming up, right, No, it's definitely true. Like you know, 425 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:05,840 Speaker 1: it's a small sample size versus a much bigger sample 426 00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:08,800 Speaker 1: of him not being as good. But I think what 427 00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:12,600 Speaker 1: you're seeing is how important supporting cast is to a quarterback. 428 00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:14,719 Speaker 1: Like I was saying in the off season that if 429 00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:17,480 Speaker 1: your analysis of to A going into this year does 430 00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:19,720 Speaker 1: not start with this has been one of the worst 431 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:21,840 Speaker 1: situations in the NFL, And I don't know if it's 432 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:24,760 Speaker 1: even fair to try and evaluate him given what's been 433 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:27,800 Speaker 1: around him, I think you're you're being harsh or you're 434 00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:30,320 Speaker 1: being disingenuous. But the same thing is true with the 435 00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:33,359 Speaker 1: other side, right, which is now he's got a great 436 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:36,800 Speaker 1: environment around him. The coach is great, the receivers are great, 437 00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:39,280 Speaker 1: the offensive line has become good, the run game is there. 438 00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:42,119 Speaker 1: So the truth and too probably lies somewhere in the 439 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:45,520 Speaker 1: middle between those two extremes. But for the purposes of 440 00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:48,240 Speaker 1: winning games, it doesn't really matter. Like that offense is 441 00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:51,160 Speaker 1: looking like you can dominate with two at the quarterback. 442 00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:53,800 Speaker 1: Maybe he's not as good as a Patrick Mahomes or 443 00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:57,120 Speaker 1: as a Josh Allen in isolation, but in this environment 444 00:23:57,160 --> 00:23:59,480 Speaker 1: he can go toe to toe with those guys. Would 445 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:01,480 Speaker 1: you bet them to win the Super Bowl at this point? 446 00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:02,879 Speaker 1: Or I mean it's obviously you don't want to do 447 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:05,879 Speaker 1: that after they smash the Browns? But is that is 448 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:08,000 Speaker 1: that a good bet? Do you think? You know? Maybe 449 00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:10,960 Speaker 1: Miami two get sneaky, But I will remind you, Sam, 450 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:13,040 Speaker 1: they got some outdoor games coming up. There's a warm 451 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:16,640 Speaker 1: weather team. Would speed outdoors? You know, twenty degree weather 452 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:19,119 Speaker 1: in Buffalo in New England. Let's let's see what happens. 453 00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:22,000 Speaker 1: In right. Yeah, there's still a lot to know about Miami. 454 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:23,720 Speaker 1: I think the time to bet that would have been 455 00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:26,160 Speaker 1: after the Bills lost against the Jets, you know, when 456 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:28,840 Speaker 1: that opened the door to that division being live again. 457 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:31,280 Speaker 1: I think Miami became a good bet at that point, 458 00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:34,200 Speaker 1: and then last week only moved it in their direction 459 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:36,800 Speaker 1: even more. But I think it's still true like they 460 00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:39,560 Speaker 1: are live to win the division. I think they're starting 461 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:42,720 Speaker 1: to become the team that Kansas City is going to 462 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:45,600 Speaker 1: start focusing on and being like, which team do we 463 00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:48,560 Speaker 1: have to worry about in the playoffs? Um, and they 464 00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:51,719 Speaker 1: still have that second game against Buffalo to come like that, 465 00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:54,280 Speaker 1: that's gonna be huge, not just for the division, but 466 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:58,000 Speaker 1: for the entire conference. Fox Sports Radio has the best 467 00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:00,840 Speaker 1: sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our 468 00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:04,359 Speaker 1: shows at Fox sports Radio dot com and within the 469 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:07,560 Speaker 1: I Heart Radio app search f s R to listen live. 470 00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:10,000 Speaker 1: One of the things you do at PF that I 471 00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:12,840 Speaker 1: love is the offensive line rankings. I really look at 472 00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:15,800 Speaker 1: this a lot. I gotta say, Sam, I am stunned. 473 00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:18,239 Speaker 1: I know the Rams are bad. I didn't know they 474 00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:21,120 Speaker 1: were thirty second in the league bad. But I also 475 00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:22,840 Speaker 1: got to point out my Jets are way down there 476 00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:25,680 Speaker 1: at thirty the Giants at thirty one. How could What 477 00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:29,240 Speaker 1: does it say that the Giants and Jets are you know, 478 00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:32,080 Speaker 1: winning teams in the wild card mix for now, and 479 00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:33,800 Speaker 1: yet their offensive lines are two of the worst in 480 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:35,440 Speaker 1: the league because that neither of them has a good, 481 00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:38,520 Speaker 1: great quarterback play. No, it's true, and and you know 482 00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:41,560 Speaker 1: it's they've also had all three of those teams have 483 00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:43,760 Speaker 1: had a lot of injuries in the offensive line. The 484 00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:47,560 Speaker 1: Rams offense is really interesting because you can draw a 485 00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:51,160 Speaker 1: really close line between just how good the offensive line 486 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:53,600 Speaker 1: has been, how good the offense is, and how good 487 00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:57,040 Speaker 1: the team is overall. Since the moment Sean McVeigh arrived there, right, 488 00:25:57,080 --> 00:26:00,359 Speaker 1: it's been incredibly tightly correlated. Like, the last time the 489 00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:03,920 Speaker 1: line was anything like this bad was the season where 490 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:05,800 Speaker 1: they went nine and seven and they were never really 491 00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:08,679 Speaker 1: a contender. Um and it's worse this year by a 492 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:12,440 Speaker 1: distance than it was that season. So just nothing functions 493 00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:14,160 Speaker 1: with the line as bad as it is right now. 494 00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:16,440 Speaker 1: They're trying to get the ball out of Stafford's hands 495 00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:20,080 Speaker 1: lightning quick, you know, much shorter passes than they were 496 00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:22,240 Speaker 1: doing a year ago. It's and then you know, it's 497 00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:24,879 Speaker 1: all Cooper Cup and there Cooper cups down, so that 498 00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:26,600 Speaker 1: offense might not be able to move the ball at 499 00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:29,439 Speaker 1: all in the next few weeks. Um, if indeed they 500 00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:32,520 Speaker 1: ever get Cooper Cup back, the Giants at least are 501 00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:36,600 Speaker 1: able to deploy the threat of Daniel Jones as a runner. 502 00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:38,720 Speaker 1: And when you're able to do that, you know, it 503 00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:40,760 Speaker 1: sounds kind of silly because Daniel Olones doesn't look like 504 00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:42,880 Speaker 1: he should be a good runner, but he he weirdly 505 00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:46,760 Speaker 1: is um And when you can do that, it changes 506 00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:49,200 Speaker 1: the whole dynamic of how an offensive line has to block. 507 00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:51,080 Speaker 1: You know, they're able to get away with a lot 508 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:54,320 Speaker 1: because they're the defense plays them differently because they have 509 00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:56,920 Speaker 1: to think about the quarterback just tucking the ball and 510 00:26:57,320 --> 00:27:00,159 Speaker 1: running around the corner. They also have Andrew Thomas is 511 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:02,199 Speaker 1: playing I think as good as any left tackle in 512 00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:05,400 Speaker 1: the NFL. The Jets is a bit of a different dynamic, 513 00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:08,320 Speaker 1: like they've had to do things slightly differently because they 514 00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:11,280 Speaker 1: you know, Zack Wilson, he's a mobile quarterback, but he's 515 00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:14,400 Speaker 1: not really a rushing threat. Um. They've had really good 516 00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:17,879 Speaker 1: running backs this year. Obviously, breefe All going down was unfortunate, 517 00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:20,240 Speaker 1: but they've been able to get the ball out of 518 00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:24,159 Speaker 1: Wilson's hands quickly and actually have it be productive in 519 00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:27,680 Speaker 1: a way that the Rams haven't been able to this year. Interesting, 520 00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:29,720 Speaker 1: So you have the Jets at thirty. They're facing the 521 00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:33,560 Speaker 1: Patriots this week. Patriots check in at six UM, and 522 00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:36,600 Speaker 1: in your little notes you have the cold Strange the 523 00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:40,840 Speaker 1: rookie was benched against the Jets, or maybe it was 524 00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:42,479 Speaker 1: the game before that, but bottom line, he hasn't been 525 00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:44,600 Speaker 1: great the last couple of weeks. But that being said, 526 00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:47,600 Speaker 1: the Jets offensive line gave up their tackles, gave up 527 00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:51,720 Speaker 1: five pressures each to the Patriots. Judean was everywhere. UM 528 00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:54,119 Speaker 1: handicapped this game for me due to the Jets have 529 00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:56,240 Speaker 1: a chance because there's been money coming in all week 530 00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:59,600 Speaker 1: in New York. Yeah, Like, I still think this is 531 00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:03,320 Speaker 1: a bad matchup for the Jets because of the whole 532 00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:07,640 Speaker 1: Belichick versus Zack Wilson thing. Even outside of just Zach 533 00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:10,960 Speaker 1: Wilson is bad under pressure period Like that on its 534 00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:13,760 Speaker 1: own is enough to be concerned. Because the Patriots have 535 00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:16,600 Speaker 1: like a top five defense and pressure rate. Um, the 536 00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:19,159 Speaker 1: Jets offensive line isn't good. We saw the effect that 537 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:21,439 Speaker 1: can have last time. But on top of that, you 538 00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:24,399 Speaker 1: have what Belichick can do to young quarterbacks or the 539 00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:27,919 Speaker 1: guys like Zach Wilson schematically and cause them problems anyway. 540 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:30,360 Speaker 1: So it feels like this is the kind of game 541 00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:33,040 Speaker 1: where Zach Wilson is not going to play particularly well. 542 00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:35,760 Speaker 1: But the same thing is true for the other side 543 00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:38,200 Speaker 1: of the ball, right Like mac Jones has been one 544 00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:40,720 Speaker 1: of the worst quarter of accidentally under pressure. The Patriots 545 00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:43,440 Speaker 1: have a better offensive line, but the Jets arguably have 546 00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:46,840 Speaker 1: a better pass rush, so it kind of balances itself out. 547 00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:49,640 Speaker 1: And this sort of feels like a game where both 548 00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:52,280 Speaker 1: quarterbacks are gonna have problems. Both quarterbacks are gonna put 549 00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:54,480 Speaker 1: the ball in harms way, and it's almost like which 550 00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:58,000 Speaker 1: defense is gonna come up with a couple of turnovers? Yeah, well, Sam, 551 00:28:58,040 --> 00:28:59,720 Speaker 1: I gotta re mind you. Jets were up ten three. 552 00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:04,280 Speaker 1: Mac Jones stones the pick six. It is overturned due 553 00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:07,040 Speaker 1: to a personal foul penalty, which was it was a 554 00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:09,520 Speaker 1: legit foul. The guy drilled mac Jones late, so that 555 00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:11,959 Speaker 1: comes off the board. Patriots end up getting a field goal, 556 00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:14,640 Speaker 1: so instead of seventeen three at halftime, it's ten six. 557 00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:17,320 Speaker 1: And then Zack Wilson implodes in the second half. So 558 00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:19,800 Speaker 1: I don't know, I really think the Jets have a 559 00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:22,720 Speaker 1: chance this week. I agree, and maybe I'm irrational, but no, 560 00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:24,760 Speaker 1: I agree. I think you're right and lost in the 561 00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:27,520 Speaker 1: whole sort of Zack Wilson. Like Zack Wilson imploding in 562 00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:30,240 Speaker 1: the second half took a lot of the attention away 563 00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:32,880 Speaker 1: from how bad Mac Jones played in that game. Like 564 00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:34,600 Speaker 1: you said, there was that play that got taken off 565 00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:36,800 Speaker 1: the board, but even that side of that, Mac Jones 566 00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:40,400 Speaker 1: played terribly and nobody mentioned it because all the focus 567 00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:43,360 Speaker 1: was on how bad Zack Wilson was in that second half. 568 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:45,760 Speaker 1: Like that took all the attention away from the mac 569 00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:48,680 Speaker 1: Jones thing, which is becoming like a really big problem 570 00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:51,760 Speaker 1: for the Patriots this year. Yeah, it's a thing, all right. 571 00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:56,520 Speaker 1: So Packers Titans at Green Bay. It looked like it 572 00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:59,280 Speaker 1: was three and a half. I'm seeing three Packers are favored. 573 00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:03,120 Speaker 1: Are people gonna overreact to the Packers win over Dallas? 574 00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:05,400 Speaker 1: And I need to remind everybody was a seventeen nothing 575 00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:08,600 Speaker 1: run fourth quarter over time to get the win or 576 00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:11,320 Speaker 1: the Titans good. I still I can't find any metrics 577 00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:14,840 Speaker 1: in which they're really good. I've looked at all of them. 578 00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:16,400 Speaker 1: I mean, d v O wah. None of the net 579 00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:19,520 Speaker 1: net Yards were playing nothing. Nobody knows sat like the 580 00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:22,200 Speaker 1: Tennessee Titans. The Titans haven't made any sense to me 581 00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:24,440 Speaker 1: for like a year and a half. I can't figure 582 00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:28,440 Speaker 1: out the Titans at all. Each game they play doesn't help. UM. 583 00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:31,560 Speaker 1: I feel that you're right though, that people might really 584 00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:34,760 Speaker 1: overreact to the green Bay part of this, because they 585 00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:37,840 Speaker 1: were fourteen down in the fourth quarter, like this was 586 00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:40,160 Speaker 1: a game they should have lost, and sometimes managed to 587 00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:43,400 Speaker 1: come back and win, and they played their part in that, 588 00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:45,360 Speaker 1: but I think Dallas thrown that away was a big 589 00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:48,600 Speaker 1: part of it as well. So tennis, the one aspect 590 00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:50,800 Speaker 1: of Tennessee that I think I can you can be 591 00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:54,920 Speaker 1: reasonably confident in is that that defense is very good, UM, 592 00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:58,120 Speaker 1: and green Bay's offense is not. And as much as 593 00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:03,440 Speaker 1: they gotta break out game from their rookie receiver Christian Watson, finally, 594 00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:05,960 Speaker 1: you know, halfway through the season, I don't know that 595 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:08,480 Speaker 1: they can rely on that every single week, and I 596 00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:10,320 Speaker 1: don't even know if they can rely on that twice 597 00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:13,200 Speaker 1: in two weeks. So if Tennessee is able to stop 598 00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:16,560 Speaker 1: that one connection, then I think green Bay is gonna 599 00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:20,560 Speaker 1: have problems moving the ball, and you know, Tennessee's offense 600 00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:22,880 Speaker 1: I think can move the ball against green Bay. So 601 00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:25,800 Speaker 1: I kind of like, I certainly like them to cover this. 602 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:29,560 Speaker 1: I kind of like Tennessee to win this. That right, interesting? Okay, 603 00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:32,400 Speaker 1: I was thinking Packers, but that I don't understand Tennessee. 604 00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:34,000 Speaker 1: I lose to him all the time. The final game 605 00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:35,960 Speaker 1: I want to ask you about, probably the game of 606 00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:39,640 Speaker 1: the week, Dallas at Minnesota. Cowboys had the heartbreaking loss 607 00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:43,360 Speaker 1: Minnesota had. We can call that lucky, right, lucky that 608 00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:46,240 Speaker 1: they you know, and they've been super lucky. Seven wins 609 00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:48,480 Speaker 1: I believe in a row or yeah, I think seven 610 00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:50,959 Speaker 1: in a row, all by one score a lot of them. 611 00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:54,360 Speaker 1: They trailed in the fourth quarter. Um, I kind of 612 00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:57,520 Speaker 1: like Dallas here. I thought Minnesota earlier in the week, 613 00:31:57,560 --> 00:31:59,400 Speaker 1: and I'm like, no, it's it's got to be the Cowboys, right. 614 00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:01,800 Speaker 1: A big thing. I think it's gonna come down to 615 00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:05,280 Speaker 1: whether Christian Dara saw in Minnesota's left tackle gets clear 616 00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:08,040 Speaker 1: to play, he having left last week with a concussion, 617 00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:12,040 Speaker 1: and I don't know anything about kind of return to play. 618 00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:16,160 Speaker 1: Protocols for an offensive lineman. But like those guys throw 619 00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:19,640 Speaker 1: their face into an and their opponent fifty times a game, like, 620 00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:22,360 Speaker 1: I don't know if that should therefore mean they take 621 00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:24,880 Speaker 1: longer to come back from a concussion. You know, in theory, 622 00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:27,000 Speaker 1: the quarterback can go the whole game and then his 623 00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:29,520 Speaker 1: head doesn't get hit at all. The offensive lineman, when 624 00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:31,440 Speaker 1: he plays again, is going to get hit in the 625 00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:35,800 Speaker 1: head a lot. So if Daras Saw does play, you know, 626 00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:38,400 Speaker 1: he's allowed. He hasn't allowed to sack, I think, or 627 00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:40,440 Speaker 1: a hit this year. He's given up like ten pressures 628 00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:43,480 Speaker 1: in nine games something like that. So he's a legit 629 00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:46,040 Speaker 1: left tackle at this point and can go some way 630 00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:49,200 Speaker 1: towards slowing down that Dallas pass rush. If he's not there, 631 00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:52,320 Speaker 1: I think the Vikings are going to get like overwhelmed 632 00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:54,560 Speaker 1: by that Dallas pass rush, which is as good as 633 00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:57,040 Speaker 1: anybody in the league. I think they're number one right 634 00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:59,440 Speaker 1: now in pressure rate, but they can get pressure with 635 00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:03,040 Speaker 1: three four eyes um and they mix in stunts, they 636 00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:05,959 Speaker 1: mix in blitz is like they do enough to kind 637 00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:09,240 Speaker 1: of keep you off balance schematically as well. That feels 638 00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:12,280 Speaker 1: like it will be too much for this Vikings offense. Interesting, 639 00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:15,000 Speaker 1: So I see Pro Football Focus has Derriss out number 640 00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:18,680 Speaker 1: one and left tackle in the league. Wow, he's been 641 00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:21,720 Speaker 1: really been good. So what so was he? Did he 642 00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:24,800 Speaker 1: leave in the Buffalo game with the concussion? Yeah? He 643 00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:27,120 Speaker 1: I think he missed the last twenties snats or so 644 00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:30,360 Speaker 1: of that game. Val Miller had had a nice little 645 00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:33,400 Speaker 1: afternoon after he left, right, he did. But his the 646 00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:37,120 Speaker 1: guy that came in for him, um actually held up. Okay, 647 00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:40,600 Speaker 1: like the guy called Blake Blake Randall, I think his 648 00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:43,720 Speaker 1: name is, like, he's uh not. You know, it wasn't 649 00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:45,320 Speaker 1: a high draft pick. Was what was a guy that 650 00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:47,840 Speaker 1: graded well for us in college. It's been in the 651 00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:49,640 Speaker 1: league for a couple of years but hasn't really played. 652 00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:52,040 Speaker 1: He held his own. You know, it would be a 653 00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:54,120 Speaker 1: big downgrade or it would be a big ask to 654 00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:56,360 Speaker 1: expect him to go out and play a whole game 655 00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:59,440 Speaker 1: against guy like Michael Parsons. But it wasn't the disaster 656 00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:01,040 Speaker 1: that could have in or that it would have been 657 00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:04,640 Speaker 1: in previous years for the Vikings. Yeah. One more, Um. 658 00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:08,080 Speaker 1: Philadelphia Eagles is a defensive line thing. But so their 659 00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:10,440 Speaker 1: their defense has been incredible all season. All of a 660 00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:13,399 Speaker 1: sudden the Jordan Davis, the rookie out of Georgia, goes down. 661 00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:16,600 Speaker 1: They get run over by Pierce and the Texans. They 662 00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:20,600 Speaker 1: get run over by you know, Washington, not Robins, Robinson 663 00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:23,440 Speaker 1: and company. Well, guy, I guess the other kid gives 664 00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:27,680 Speaker 1: it at a decent game. How much does just a 665 00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:30,919 Speaker 1: rookie defensive tackle matter to a thing like the run game? 666 00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:33,200 Speaker 1: Or is this being blown out of proportion? I think 667 00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:35,520 Speaker 1: it's a little bit being blown out of proportion. I 668 00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:37,880 Speaker 1: think Jordan Davis does matter to the run defense. Like 669 00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:40,960 Speaker 1: when you watch him play, he impacts almost every single 670 00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:43,480 Speaker 1: run play he's in on like he how could he 671 00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:46,200 Speaker 1: not at that size and strength, you know what I mean? Um, 672 00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:48,280 Speaker 1: But when you look at on us on a macro 673 00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:51,120 Speaker 1: level like that, there's very little data in terms of 674 00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:54,240 Speaker 1: on off splits that's set to say, when Jordan Davis 675 00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:58,520 Speaker 1: is missing, this run defense collapses. And even against Washington, yes, 676 00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:02,719 Speaker 1: they rushed for a lot total wise, but they ran 677 00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:04,879 Speaker 1: the ball like forty eight times, right, an average three 678 00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:07,799 Speaker 1: point two yards per carry something like that. So like 679 00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:12,080 Speaker 1: Washington was able to get just enough to keep it viable, 680 00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:14,080 Speaker 1: you know, so they could run again and then they 681 00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:15,920 Speaker 1: were able to keep converting these sort of third and 682 00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:18,799 Speaker 1: short plays and just stay on the field and like 683 00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:21,600 Speaker 1: that was it. But it's not like they gashed. You know, 684 00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:24,480 Speaker 1: we've seen the Chargers defense, for example, right when they struggle, 685 00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:27,759 Speaker 1: they gave up six yards to carry against teams and 686 00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:30,239 Speaker 1: get run on all day. That's not what I think 687 00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:33,000 Speaker 1: the Eagles defense was doing. They just weren't quite able 688 00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:36,480 Speaker 1: to stop them enough to get Washington's offense off the field, 689 00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:38,920 Speaker 1: and so they kept running and kept running and kept running, 690 00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:40,120 Speaker 1: and by the end of it all, you look up 691 00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:42,480 Speaker 1: and they've racked up a hundred and fifty yards. Like, 692 00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:46,480 Speaker 1: I think their run defense is still okay, but they 693 00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:49,160 Speaker 1: could definitely use Jordan Davis getting back so he's on 694 00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:52,240 Speaker 1: I r out for a minute. It feels like people 695 00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:55,320 Speaker 1: are overreacting to the Eagles, you know, the Island game. Everybody, 696 00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:57,840 Speaker 1: Eagles are not that good. Look at these turnovers they 697 00:35:58,000 --> 00:35:59,719 Speaker 1: turn over. I don't know, I kind of think they 698 00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:02,080 Speaker 1: go to the Cult this weekend and kind of destroy them. Yeah, 699 00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:04,040 Speaker 1: I think the Eagles are still the best team in 700 00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:06,560 Speaker 1: the NFC. UM. You know, we were the thing you 701 00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:09,040 Speaker 1: can never legislate for, you know, whether you're looking at 702 00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:13,040 Speaker 1: the odds, whether you're just randomly kind of evaluating and 703 00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:15,640 Speaker 1: predicting the game and all those kinds of things. Is 704 00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:17,920 Speaker 1: you can talk about who's best, you can look at 705 00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:20,040 Speaker 1: the matchups, you can look at the individual stuff, but 706 00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:22,919 Speaker 1: nothing can prepare you for just like blind turnover luck, 707 00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:25,240 Speaker 1: which is gonna gonna show up every now and again, 708 00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:28,440 Speaker 1: right and particularly in this game, Like that wasn't the 709 00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:31,480 Speaker 1: only reason that Washington won. But when you have a 710 00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:35,560 Speaker 1: play where the officials completely missed an obvious face mask 711 00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:37,080 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, it's a turnover off the 712 00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:40,320 Speaker 1: back of that, Like, those are game changing plays. If 713 00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:43,920 Speaker 1: that doesn't happen, that play alone doesn't happen, the Eagles 714 00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:46,360 Speaker 1: probably end up winning that game, right, They probably end 715 00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:49,400 Speaker 1: up executing this sort of come back full ahead. And 716 00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:51,680 Speaker 1: once that happens, I think they would they would move 717 00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:53,960 Speaker 1: away with it, but it doesn't. And that those are 718 00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:57,600 Speaker 1: the kind of players that can completely change the outcomes, 719 00:36:57,600 --> 00:36:59,600 Speaker 1: not just a game like that, but like almost any 720 00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:03,759 Speaker 1: game in the league. Yeah, good stuff. Sam monson Pro 721 00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:07,520 Speaker 1: Football Focus following him on social media, and thanks for 722 00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:11,239 Speaker 1: I love the breakdowns. It's like he's concisely knows he 723 00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:14,200 Speaker 1: knows the backup tackle. And by the way, Blake Brandel, 724 00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:17,760 Speaker 1: good call Oregon State, young kid boy, you know backup tackles. 725 00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:20,719 Speaker 1: You're gonna You're gonna go far covering the NFL. Thanks 726 00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:24,759 Speaker 1: a lot, Sam, Hey Tian, thanks for me the only 727 00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:27,600 Speaker 1: thing better than sitting on your couch watching the game. 728 00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:32,440 Speaker 1: He's making money while he's doing. Here's your best bet. 729 00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:38,719 Speaker 1: Great stuff from Samms from the Football Focus. Love the insight, 730 00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:41,880 Speaker 1: the offensive line rankings. I nerd out on some of 731 00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:43,760 Speaker 1: that stuff. All right, let's get to the best bet. 732 00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:47,120 Speaker 1: Thursday night football. It's like on paper, it should be 733 00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:50,840 Speaker 1: a good game Tennessee at Green Bay. That being said, 734 00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:54,080 Speaker 1: like these are could be boring as hell. I mean, 735 00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:57,640 Speaker 1: the Packers can get no separation with the receivers. Aaron 736 00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:01,759 Speaker 1: Rogers google ball. I believe twenty time games in an 737 00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:04,439 Speaker 1: overtime game, Like, what does that say for their passing game? 738 00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:07,640 Speaker 1: Not much? Never, not much. I know Watson looked great, 739 00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:11,000 Speaker 1: but twenty past attempts in an overtime game, And of 740 00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:14,360 Speaker 1: course the opposite is true. Green Bays defenses on the 741 00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:18,600 Speaker 1: field for seventy nine plays in a must win empty 742 00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:23,480 Speaker 1: the Tank overtime game against Dallas folks, I I hate 743 00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:26,040 Speaker 1: doing this because Tennessee has been the bane of my existence. 744 00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:29,520 Speaker 1: The rules are always been him as dogs because Raybel's 745 00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:33,000 Speaker 1: great as a dog. Mike Vybel, according to Fox numbers 746 00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:35,840 Speaker 1: twenty and seven against the spread as a dog of 747 00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:38,520 Speaker 1: three or more. He's like I said, I've said this 748 00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:40,640 Speaker 1: a couple of weeks. He's the new Mike Tomlin. If 749 00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:43,799 Speaker 1: he's an underdog, you gotta bet it. That being said, 750 00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:47,279 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, this game is ghastly. If you can 751 00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:49,360 Speaker 1: find a three and a half in the market, I 752 00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:51,359 Speaker 1: think you gotta take it. It It really depends on where 753 00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:54,000 Speaker 1: you're looking. Looked like Draft Kings has a three and 754 00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:56,560 Speaker 1: a half. A lot of other places have a three 755 00:38:56,560 --> 00:39:00,160 Speaker 1: and at three with juice. Um, I like to three 756 00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:02,800 Speaker 1: and a half better if you if you want Tennessee obviously, 757 00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:05,520 Speaker 1: um getting hook would be great. This this has low 758 00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:08,319 Speaker 1: scoring written all over a total sitting on forty one. 759 00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:11,240 Speaker 1: I looked at the d v o A numbers, folks, 760 00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:15,240 Speaker 1: it's not pretty Green Bay d v o A run defense. 761 00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:19,680 Speaker 1: Are you ready for this? Derrick Henry licking his chops, 762 00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:23,960 Speaker 1: but he couldn't get against Denver last week. You know, 763 00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:29,520 Speaker 1: on a Thursday Night, handoff, handoff, Dennis. Tennessee has massive 764 00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:34,880 Speaker 1: injury issues, folks. I'm I'm stunned to realize. Yes, the 765 00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:39,759 Speaker 1: Packers DeAndre Devandre Campbell their linebacker, but the Titans have 766 00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:42,799 Speaker 1: it way worse. Their their kicker, Randy bullocks out, their 767 00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:47,359 Speaker 1: best pass rusher, Bud Dupre's out, safety Money Hooker out, 768 00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:51,520 Speaker 1: center Ben Jones out, and the big one is run 769 00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:55,560 Speaker 1: stopping defensive tackle Jeffrey Simmons. Question. Jeffrey Simmons has been 770 00:39:55,600 --> 00:40:00,279 Speaker 1: incredible this year. He is an outstanding talent. Den could 771 00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:03,200 Speaker 1: do nothing offensively, nothing with a Bible to prepare. They 772 00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:05,920 Speaker 1: were able to just a great smart schemer. La Fleur 773 00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:08,960 Speaker 1: and Rabel they know each other well. I think you 774 00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:11,080 Speaker 1: have to take Tennessee. If you can get the hook, 775 00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:15,399 Speaker 1: You've got to take Tennessee getting three and a half. Ultimately, Uh, 776 00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:21,520 Speaker 1: this feels like what see somebody somebody. So I'll take 777 00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:23,279 Speaker 1: Tennessee three and a half if you can find If 778 00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:25,680 Speaker 1: you can't find it, there's no problem waiting the in 779 00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:29,160 Speaker 1: game bet. Maybe the Packers come in off the script 780 00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:31,480 Speaker 1: and are great. Remember the Eagles on Monday Night Football, 781 00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:34,120 Speaker 1: which gave out a loser, had the under in that one. 782 00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:36,840 Speaker 1: Remember the Eagles started off, got a touchdown, and you 783 00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:40,040 Speaker 1: could live bet Washington plus seventeen because they were like 784 00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:42,600 Speaker 1: eleven point dogs. You could get Washington plus seventeen. They 785 00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:46,840 Speaker 1: want outright on the road. Green Bay is not a 786 00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:48,799 Speaker 1: great football team just because they came back from down 787 00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:50,680 Speaker 1: seventeen to win. I think plus three and a half 788 00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:54,799 Speaker 1: Tennessee is your best bet. We're back tomorrow, heavy on 789 00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:58,040 Speaker 1: the NFL, but we'll also start talking a little World 790 00:40:58,080 --> 00:41:02,080 Speaker 1: Cup with the first game kicking off Sunday. We'll talk 791 00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:02,560 Speaker 1: to you tomorrow